[newbie] alternatives
Hi all, I've been beating my head against my keyboard for about 4 days straight. The more I work with Mandrake and all the current apps out there, the more impressed I am with all of it. But I can't make the full switch to Mandrake until I can resolve the last two issues; Visio and Counter-Strike. As I see it, my choices are wine(x), vmware, and dual booting. Most of the past 4 days has been spent searching, reading, and trying different things to get Half-Life (Counter-Strike) running with winex. It still doesn't work and I'm not prepared to spend that much time trying to get Visio running, so I've built another partition and put Win2k on it. I'll dual boot for now. But that's not gonna cut it for long. I want Linux as my base OS, and I have to be able to run Visio until there's a nix equivalent that will handle Visio files flawlessly. (Exporting/Importing via HTML or whatnot is neat but not good enough.) I'm considering the purchase of VMware Workstation, but it's a $300 decision. So I thought I check here first. This has to be a common issue. Are there any other options - recommendations? Thanks in advance, -- ~Brandon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alternatives
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:12 pm, Brandon Vanderberg wrote: I've been beating my head against my keyboard for about 4 days straight. The more I work with Mandrake and all the current apps out there, the more impressed I am with all of it. But I can't make the full switch to Mandrake until I can resolve the last two issues; Visio and Counter-Strike. As I see it, my choices are wine(x), vmware, and dual booting. Most of the past 4 days has been spent searching, reading, and trying different things to get Half-Life (Counter-Strike) running with winex. It still doesn't work and I'm not prepared to spend that much time trying to get Visio running, so I've built another partition and put Win2k on it. I'll dual boot for now. Hello, Kivio is *the* solution if you need a Visio-style program. Or so the KOffice people want to convince us. I haven't actually used MS Visio before, so I can't tell you if it's like Kivio (only that it exists :-)). There still aren't many good FPS games in linux. Loki I think had Quake III, but you won't see many other games. Dual-booting and Winex, as you said, are probably the only ways to get your daily CS quota. Regards, _nasturtium Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alternatives
--On Wednesday, December 18, 2002 10:49:30 PM +1100 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 20:12, Brandon Vanderberg wrote: Hi all, I've been beating my head against my keyboard for about 4 days straight. The more I work with Mandrake and all the current apps out there, the more impressed I am with all of it. But I can't make the full switch to Mandrake until I can resolve the last two issues; Visio and Counter-Strike. As I see it, my choices are wine(x), vmware, and dual booting. I think win4lin. I don't own it but plan to it will solve the problem of dual booting in the mean time. counter-strike like most of its time are system draining, which I think kills vmware and wine before you start. write to the win4lin people and see if they have or will test it for you Aaron Most of the past 4 days has been spent searching, reading, and trying different things to get Half-Life (Counter-Strike) running with winex. It still doesn't work and I'm not prepared to spend that much time trying to get Visio running, so I've built another partition and put Win2k on it. I'll dual boot for now. But that's not gonna cut it for long. I want Linux as my base OS, and I have to be able to run Visio until there's a nix equivalent that will handle Visio files flawlessly. (Exporting/Importing via HTML or whatnot is neat but not good enough.) I'm considering the purchase of VMware Workstation, but it's a $300 decision. So I thought I check here first. This has to be a common issue. Are there any other options - recommendations? Thanks in advance, -- ~Brandon [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wanted to say something about this before, but constantly forget to do so - so I'll do it now. WINE wants to be an abstraction layer - a clone, per se, so that Windows apps can run - right? SO, if you look in the /usr/share/wine-c/ directory, you see a rather bleak and bland SKELETON of Windows directories and the likes. Well, that didn't sit right with me - and wanting to run MYOB whilst in fave linux, I decided to hack WINE. First, I copied just about everything from my /mnt/hda1/windows directories right into the /usr/share/wine-c/ directory. Fonts, DLL's - you name it - I copied it there. I wanted to give Windows programs everything they asked for. I also dittoed the same with the Program Files subdirs, too. I dug through all the ini files and the WINE registry files to straighten out things that had been changed as well as point some virtual dll's to the real McCoy's...took a while, and took a fair bit of experimenting, but overall, now I can run native Windows applications in my linux world. Now my way was hacked/slashed - but from what I unnerstan...WineX is by far the better way to go...they've spent a good deal of time getting WINE Game Playable - which basically tells me that if you can run a game like UT2002 or HL under linux, running sniveling little MS wanna-be programs like Viso (only joking there) would be a snap. And mate, if I can live completely in a Window-less world (socially even) then so can you! -- Wed Dec 18 22:40:01 EST 2002 10:40pm up 5:32, 3 users, load average: 0.06, 0.14, 0.20 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | '. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn I love dogs, but I hate Chihuahuas. A Chihuahua isn't a dog. It's a rat with a thyroid problem. AM in the AM (PM) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] alternatives
Thanks, I'll try that. I blew away Mandrake and reinstalled 2k, so the immediate problem is gone. But now I have my kid's computer spread out all over the garage swapping hardware so I can put linux on it. Then I can Bash C headers and make depend ./hooya/blitz.kablooey-26.3.4 all day long without missing my apps. I guess it's sorta like working on a car, make sure you got a second one that runs before you tear the first apart. Hmmm... now I'm gonna have a whole new batch of hardware issues to sort out. Brandon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stephen Kuhn Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 3:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] alternatives On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 20:12, Brandon Vanderberg wrote: Hi all, I've been beating my head against my keyboard for about 4 days straight. The more I work with Mandrake and all the current apps out there, the more impressed I am with all of it. But I can't make the full switch to Mandrake until I can resolve the last two issues; Visio and Counter-Strike. As I see it, my choices are wine(x), vmware, and dual booting. Most of the past 4 days has been spent searching, reading, and trying different things to get Half-Life (Counter-Strike) running with winex. It still doesn't work and I'm not prepared to spend that much time trying to get Visio running, so I've built another partition and put Win2k on it. I'll dual boot for now. But that's not gonna cut it for long. I want Linux as my base OS, and I have to be able to run Visio until there's a nix equivalent that will handle Visio files flawlessly. (Exporting/Importing via HTML or whatnot is neat but not good enough.) I'm considering the purchase of VMware Workstation, but it's a $300 decision. So I thought I check here first. This has to be a common issue. Are there any other options - recommendations? Thanks in advance, -- ~Brandon [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wanted to say something about this before, but constantly forget to do so - so I'll do it now. WINE wants to be an abstraction layer - a clone, per se, so that Windows apps can run - right? SO, if you look in the /usr/share/wine-c/ directory, you see a rather bleak and bland SKELETON of Windows directories and the likes. Well, that didn't sit right with me - and wanting to run MYOB whilst in fave linux, I decided to hack WINE. First, I copied just about everything from my /mnt/hda1/windows directories right into the /usr/share/wine-c/ directory. Fonts, DLL's - you name it - I copied it there. I wanted to give Windows programs everything they asked for. I also dittoed the same with the Program Files subdirs, too. I dug through all the ini files and the WINE registry files to straighten out things that had been changed as well as point some virtual dll's to the real McCoy's...took a while, and took a fair bit of experimenting, but overall, now I can run native Windows applications in my linux world. Now my way was hacked/slashed - but from what I unnerstan...WineX is by far the better way to go...they've spent a good deal of time getting WINE Game Playable - which basically tells me that if you can run a game like UT2002 or HL under linux, running sniveling little MS wanna-be programs like Viso (only joking there) would be a snap. And mate, if I can live completely in a Window-less world (socially even) then so can you! -- Wed Dec 18 22:40:01 EST 2002 10:40pm up 5:32, 3 users, load average: 0.06, 0.14, 0.20 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn I love dogs, but I hate Chihuahuas. A Chihuahua isn't a dog. It's a rat with a thyroid problem. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alternatives
On Wednesday 18 Dec 2002 4:21 pm, Aaron Mehl wrote: --On Wednesday, December 18, 2002 10:49:30 PM +1100 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 20:12, Brandon Vanderberg wrote: Hi all, I've been beating my head against my keyboard for about 4 days straight. The more I work with Mandrake and all the current apps out there, the more impressed I am with all of it. But I can't make the full switch to Mandrake until I can resolve the last two issues; Visio and Counter-Strike. As I see it, my choices are wine(x), vmware, and dual booting. I think win4lin. I don't own it but plan to it will solve the problem of dual booting in the mean time. counter-strike like most of its time are system draining, which I think kills vmware and wine before you start. write to the win4lin people and see if they have or will test it for you Aaron Two things I can add: 1 - if you are a club member you can download a 15-day trial to see if it will cut the mustard. 2 - NeTraverse support seems excellent. As long as you are registered they respond quickly and helpfully - and the 15-day trial entitles you to support during that time. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] alternatives
-Original Message- From: Aaron Mehl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I have a dual boot mandrak 9.0 and w2k. Even with all the complexity of linux I much prefer it over w2k. Did you look a win4lin?? This is not a toy like wine is. The problem with vmware is the price and I tried the demo and was not so impressed with performance, although those who know how to tweak it say they can get it to rock. My understanding is that win4lin doesn't work with any Direct X apps. The second PC is only a Pentium 200 w/ 64MB. So I may go with bsd or a very light mdk install in the next go'round. Not sure yet. I am trying to blow away w2k as soon as I can. This is getting me crazy rebooting. and I am wasting disk space as well. my advice is don't jump for mandrake 9.0 so fast. I have used many distributions. Redhat, Suse, debian, and mandrak. I've only used BSD, RH5, RH8, mdk7, 8, 8.1, 8.2, and now 9. Of those, I'm most impressed with 9 as a user desktop. To me, it had the best chance of getting an old window user to make a full switch. The only one that has been problem free has been Redhat. Debian is cool but not for the faint hearted. Suse is way to big. I use Mandrake cause someone hacked it for audio applications. otherwise I would be using Redhat. For networking applications, (nessus, bb, mrtg, fwlogwatch, and the like), I'd also pick 9.0, though I've run other versions in production with no problems major issues. I think that's something I failed to mention in my first post... I'm totally happy with the choice of mdk as a dedicated work box, so long as I can rdp to a MSTS that has Visio on it. (Also gets me Exchange calendar and resource scheduling.) (this is all just my opinion) Since I missed your thread on the Mandrake newbies, what do you use visio for, and what alternivies did you try on linux?? I've used dia, kivio (what's with the $10 stencils???), and another I can't remember. Don't get me wrong, I can draw a decent network diagram in any of these. I just can't pass these documents back and forth to customers, management, and co-workers with ease. lol Aaron ~Brandon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alternatives
I also have dual boot with mdk9 and win2k. Does win4lin work with win2k? I thought that it doesn't! I want to run my two best win programs in linux: Photoshop 7 and Freehand10. I'm trying to put my vmware running to do what i want but win4lin does seems to a nice alternative. cheers, filipe - Original Message - From: Brandon Vanderberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 10:09 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] alternatives -Original Message- From: Aaron Mehl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I have a dual boot mandrak 9.0 and w2k. Even with all the complexity of linux I much prefer it over w2k. Did you look a win4lin?? This is not a toy like wine is. The problem with vmware is the price and I tried the demo and was not so impressed with performance, although those who know how to tweak it say they can get it to rock. My understanding is that win4lin doesn't work with any Direct X apps. The second PC is only a Pentium 200 w/ 64MB. So I may go with bsd or a very light mdk install in the next go'round. Not sure yet. I am trying to blow away w2k as soon as I can. This is getting me crazy rebooting. and I am wasting disk space as well. my advice is don't jump for mandrake 9.0 so fast. I have used many distributions. Redhat, Suse, debian, and mandrak. I've only used BSD, RH5, RH8, mdk7, 8, 8.1, 8.2, and now 9. Of those, I'm most impressed with 9 as a user desktop. To me, it had the best chance of getting an old window user to make a full switch. The only one that has been problem free has been Redhat. Debian is cool but not for the faint hearted. Suse is way to big. I use Mandrake cause someone hacked it for audio applications. otherwise I would be using Redhat. For networking applications, (nessus, bb, mrtg, fwlogwatch, and the like), I'd also pick 9.0, though I've run other versions in production with no problems major issues. I think that's something I failed to mention in my first post... I'm totally happy with the choice of mdk as a dedicated work box, so long as I can rdp to a MSTS that has Visio on it. (Also gets me Exchange calendar and resource scheduling.) (this is all just my opinion) Since I missed your thread on the Mandrake newbies, what do you use visio for, and what alternivies did you try on linux?? I've used dia, kivio (what's with the $10 stencils???), and another I can't remember. Don't get me wrong, I can draw a decent network diagram in any of these. I just can't pass these documents back and forth to customers, management, and co-workers with ease. lol Aaron ~Brandon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alternatives
On Thursday 19 Dec 2002 1:42 am, Aurélio Diniz wrote: I also have dual boot with mdk9 and win2k. Does win4lin work with win2k? I thought that it doesn't! I want to run my two best win programs in linux: Photoshop 7 and Freehand10. I'm trying to put my vmware running to do what i want but win4lin does seems to a nice alternative. I think not - no nt or w2k. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alternatives to windows programs
Photoshop = The Gimp. I dont know about Dreamweaver or Pagemaker. There is KWord which is supposed to be a frames based word processor, but its highly unstable. On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Terry wrote: Hello all, We use a bunch of windows programs that I was curious as to whether there are any alternatives to these in the Linux community. The programs I was mostly interested in alternatives are: Adobe Photoshop Adobe Pagemaker Macromedia Dreamweaver Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! -- Arthur H. Johnson II [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Linux Box http://www.linuxbox.nu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alternatives to windows programs
If CMYK is the only (?) drawback to GIMP, How hard can it be to implement? E.g. if you have an RGB bitmap, how easily could it be transformed into a CMYK bitmap (or bitmaps for each of the colours)? (Is it true that there are some patent/rights tied up with CMYK and printing these?) Cheers, Rod. (Must be a dumb question or else it would already be implemented, right?) At 20:24 19/09/2001 -0500, Matt Greer wrote: On Wednesday 19 September 2001 20:04, you wrote: Hi, For the internet, stick with RGB; most browsers don't support displaying CMYK images (correctly or at all). Also, most browsers support a very limited colour palette, so even though RGB covers a smaller portion of the colour spectrum, it is MORE than adequate for the amount of colours supported by browsers. That is incorrect. RGB supports more color than CMYK does, by a rather large margin. CMYK is generally a poor, but required, color space. This page has a good breakdown of the two gamuts, and the differences between additive and subtractive color. http://web.wi.mit.edu/graphics/pub/photoshop/colman.htm Matt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alternatives to windows programs
Hi, For the internet, stick with RGB; most browsers don't support displaying CMYK images (correctly or at all). Also, most browsers support a very limited colour palette, so even though RGB covers a smaller portion of the colour spectrum, it is MORE than adequate for the amount of colours supported by browsers. HTH, David Charles On 19 Sep 2001, Paul [ISO-8859-1] Rodríguez wrote: Thanks, David. That clears that one up, I've had that question for a long time. How about for graphic design on the internet? Is there a quality or other difference between RGB and CMYK? -Paul Rodríguez On 19 Sep 2001 00:15:35 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I quite often work with Photoshop (have been for years), and can tell you that a LOT of graphics/printing/publishing professionals use Photoshop. As for Cyan Magenta Yello blacK (CMYK) it is 4 colour seperation process used for making films that are used when printing (not bubble jet/laser jet printing, but printing press printing) high quality images/colour layouts for magazines, colour papers, lithographic reproductions of art, etc. NO professional in ANY publishing/graphics field would EVER use RGB when making films for pre-press/production. RGB (Red Green Black) has major limits pertaining to decent reproduction of the colour spectrum. Anyways, this is just to let you know, that CMYK is NOT just something that never is needed; like I said before, it is the ONLY way to go when producing any works (that are to be taken seriously by professionals). David Charles On 18 Sep 2001, Paul [ISO-8859-1] Rodríguez wrote: =_1000872956-779-48 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alternatives to windows programs
On Wednesday 19 September 2001 20:04, you wrote: Hi, For the internet, stick with RGB; most browsers don't support displaying CMYK images (correctly or at all). Also, most browsers support a very limited colour palette, so even though RGB covers a smaller portion of the colour spectrum, it is MORE than adequate for the amount of colours supported by browsers. That is incorrect. RGB supports more color than CMYK does, by a rather large margin. CMYK is generally a poor, but required, color space. This page has a good breakdown of the two gamuts, and the differences between additive and subtractive color. http://web.wi.mit.edu/graphics/pub/photoshop/colman.htm Matt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] alternatives to windows programs
Hello all, We use a bunch of windows programs that I was curious as to whether there are any alternatives to these in the Linux community. The programs I was mostly interested in alternatives are: Adobe Photoshop Adobe Pagemaker Macromedia Dreamweaver Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! -- Terry Sheltra PC Technician/Asst. Network Administrator University of Virginia School of Architecture 434.982.3047 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Registered Linux User # 218330 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alternatives to windows programs
on 9/18/01 9:04 AM, Terry at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, We use a bunch of windows programs that I was curious as to whether there are any alternatives to these in the Linux community. The programs I was mostly interested in alternatives are: Adobe Photoshop The gimp, which is exceptionally good when you consider it's free. But price aside, it's not as good as photoshop. Adobe Pagemaker None that I know of. Why are you still using pagemaker anyway? :) Macromedia Dreamweaver bluefish isn't too bad. It lacks the macromanagement that dreamweaver has, but for html (and even php/javascript) coding, it's pretty good. I'm starting to like it. Both gimp and bluefish are included with mandrake 8.0, so you may already have them installed or they're easily installed (assuming you have m8.0 of course). For design oriented programs, I use vmware. Which allows you to run a windows session from linux. It's almost as fast as running windows natively. So I do all my illustrator/quark/etc stuff in there. I'm still crossing my fingers that the advent of Mac OSX will cause Adobe/Quark to keep going and bring their apps over to linux as well. Matt _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alternatives to windows programs
Check out Yellow Dog linux. Randy Donohoe - Original Message - From: hp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Matt Greer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 7:01 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] alternatives to windows programs Hi folks Some newbie questions. a) Is there Linux software to encode video as good as or better than WindowsMedia for on-demand true streaming? b) Is there Linux software like MediaCleaner Pro to encode video? c) I have a Mac G3 266. Is there a Linux Mandrake version that runs on it? If so - is there a windows emulator that will run on top of Linux(Mac) - so that I could use the WindowsMedia Encoder? - Harry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alternatives to windows programs
Hi, I quite often work with Photoshop (have been for years), and can tell you that a LOT of graphics/printing/publishing professionals use Photoshop. As for Cyan Magenta Yello blacK (CMYK) it is 4 colour seperation process used for making films that are used when printing (not bubble jet/laser jet printing, but printing press printing) high quality images/colour layouts for magazines, colour papers, lithographic reproductions of art, etc. NO professional in ANY publishing/graphics field would EVER use RGB when making films for pre-press/production. RGB (Red Green Black) has major limits pertaining to decent reproduction of the colour spectrum. Anyways, this is just to let you know, that CMYK is NOT just something that never is needed; like I said before, it is the ONLY way to go when producing any works (that are to be taken seriously by professionals). David Charles On 18 Sep 2001, Paul [ISO-8859-1] Rodríguez wrote: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alternatives to windows programs
On Tuesday 18 September 2001 23:15, you wrote: Hi, NO professional in ANY publishing/graphics field would EVER use RGB when making films for pre-press/production. RGB (Red Green Black) has major limits pertaining to decent reproduction of the colour spectrum. rgb is red green blue. It has a larger color spectrum than cmyk actually. rgb is used right up to the point the file is needed for press, then is convereted to cmyk typically. The thing is it's an additive color system (add red+green+blue and get white). Where as cmy(k) is a subtractive color system (add cyan+magenta+yellow to get black. Or conversly, start with black and remove cyan, magenta and yellow and you end up with white). Inks are always subtractive, which is why the cmyk system is used. Anyways, this is just to let you know, that CMYK is NOT just something that never is needed; like I said before, it is the ONLY way to go when producing any works (that are to be taken seriously by professionals). I use cmyk every day. Basically everything that's printed (from gorgeous art books to the weekend coupon flyer in your newspaper) relies on cmyk and/or other ink systems. rgb is reserved for things that will never leave a digital medium, and some specialty photographic processes. The gimp lacks support for anything subtractive as far as I can tell, which is more than just cmyk. So until/if that happens, it can't compete with the majority of the stranglehold that photoshop has. Adobe is the microsoft of the design world, afterall :) But don't get me wrong, I think the gimp is a great program. Matt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alternatives to windows programs
On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:04:06 -0400, Terry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, We use a bunch of windows programs that I was curious as to whether there are any alternatives to these in the Linux community. The programs I was mostly interested in alternatives are: Adobe Photoshop That's easy: The GIMP. It is very much the equal of Adobe Photoshop, and in some ways (like scripting) it surpasses it. It's only real draback is that it doesn't have a CYMK palette (for legal reasons). Adobe Pagemaker This is more difficult. You can try an advanced word processor, like StarOffice (StarOffice 6.0 is set to hit beta next month). Kword, a simple word processor, shares much in common with DTP apps. Macromedia Dreamweaver A real blind spot for GNU/Linux. Good HTML editors abound (like SCREEM, Bluefish and Quanta+), but there are few WYSIWYG editors. The best at present are Netscape/Mozilla Composer, Amaya (http://www.w3.org/Amaya/) and IBM Homepage Builder (http://www-4.ibm.com/software/webservers/hpbuilder/linux/index.html). Of these, IBM Homepage Builder has by far the most features, but it costs money and it is a port from Windows (using Winelib). A 60-day trial version is available for download. Once again, StarOffice can also be used as an HTML editor. From my experience, it has better HTML support than MS Word. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alternatives to windows programs
On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 11:01:45 +, hp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks Some newbie questions. a) Is there Linux software to encode video as good as or better than WindowsMedia for on-demand true streaming? Try these: http://ffmpeg.sourceforge.net/ http://www.emulinks.de/divx/ b) Is there Linux software like MediaCleaner Pro to encode video? Sorry, I can't help there (I've never heard of MediaCleaner Pro :-) ) c) I have a Mac G3 266. Is there a Linux Mandrake version that runs on it? If so - is there a windows emulator that will run on top of Linux(Mac) - so that I could use the WindowsMedia Encoder? There is a PPC version of Mandrake. Look for details at http://www.linux-mandrake.com. I don't think there are any Windows emulators, though. - Harry -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Alternatives help like Win4Lin?
Hi Miark folks, On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 01:54, you manipulated electrons to produce: I've never tried voice recognition, so I don't know. I think there might have been something about it on this list too, but that was probably regarding Wine rather than Win4Lin. Good question. At any rate, it would be a problem only with _recording_ sound. Playing back sound works flawlessly. *** Have since been told officially: can not record via W4L. No plans to implement it either... ! :-( The only negative thing is having to trash my drives and reload everything again! I dual boot to Mandrake 8.0 and Win200. I didn't trash my Windows partitions when Installed Win4Lin. In fact, I've set it up to use my data files seamlessly between Windows and Win4Lin. Have been tryting to get to undersatand the W4L install, but small things like system trashing keep interrupting.. :-) My take was you had to virtually start with a clean system. So, you actually installed w4l into M8? Then added Win98 via it as a new install? AND kept all your data? BUT of course would lose all the installed programs? I've got gigabytes of programs. I thought all you had to do was install win4 on top of an existing Linux system that still had a Windoze partition (or two). That would be nice, but they're not there yet. Any Newby-type hints from the install process? One big tip, though: Win4Lin acts as an entirely different computer on your home network, so make certain to give it a different IP address than the Linux box you put it on. Were you on M8? Yes. What Doze ver? Dual boot to Win2000; Win4Lin ran Win98SE. ** I think I need a nice nap... It has been a confusing day. :-) -- Cheers, John http://counter.li.org GO HERE IF YOU SUPPORT LINUX! Fablor is now Webhosting?? What on earth for?? Info here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (it's only an Autoresponder) :-)
Re: [newbie] Alternatives help like Win4Lin?
*** Have since been told officially: can not record via W4L. No plans to implement it either... ! :-( Hmm. Too bad. Have been tryting to get to undersatand the W4L install, but small things like system trashing keep interrupting.. :-) My take was you had to virtually start with a clean system. So, you actually installed w4l into M8? Then added Win98 via it as a new install? AND kept all your data? BUT of course would lose all the installed programs? I started with a dual-boot Win98 and Linux. When I got Win4Lin, I installed it on MDK 8.0. I _did_ have to install my basic tools in Win4Lin, namely FrontPage and Photoshop. But I setup Win4Lin to use the existing FAT32 partions on which I store all my data. So while I have two copies of Photoshop on my box (one in Windows, one in Win4Lin) they both use the same FAT32 partition to which I keep all my work. So no, I didn't start with a clean system, and I didn't lose any installed programs. I just had to add another copy of my basic apps in Win4Lin. Winblows Win4Lin --- C: WinsuxC: = Win4Lin's install on Win98 in my Linux /home directory D: Apps D: = My real D: partition from Winsux, Although I install apps to a dirctory ear-marked for Win4Lin apps. E: Docs E: = My real E: partition from Winsux. I didn't need to put Win4Lin apps on my real D:. I just did that because my /home partition (where Win4Lin normally puts the Win4Lin D: drive) is almost full :-( Miark
Re: [newbie] Alternatives help like Win4Lin?
John wrote: VM is dearest by miles. Not sure of this one - seems to be similar in CPU demand to Windoze . I think they have a version called VMWare Personal or something like that. I saw it on their Web site. It is a lite version of the full VMWare that gives you, I think, just one virtual computer, whereas the expensive version lets you have a bunch of them. There are other differences, but for a single user it seemed to do the basics--let you run a real version of Windows without leaving Linux. I think the price was US $90 to $99. You do, of course, have to supply a copy of Windows if you want it to run under VMWare. --Judy Miner
Re: [newbie] Alternatives help like Win4Lin?
On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 09:24, Judith Miner wrote: John wrote: VM is dearest by miles. Not sure of this one - seems to be similar in CPU demand to Windoze . I think they have a version called VMWare Personal or something like that. I saw it on their Web site. It is a lite version of the full VMWare that gives you, I think, just one virtual computer, whereas the expensive version lets you have a bunch of them. There are other differences, but for a single user it seemed to do the basics--let you run a real version of Windows without leaving Linux. I think the price was US $90 to $99. You do, of course, have to supply a copy of Windows if you want it to run under VMWare. --Judy Miner VMware Express is not worth getting. It is basically VMware Workstation cut down to a level comparable to Win4Lin, both price and feature wise. Like Win4Lin, it can only run Win95/98 and only one at a time (VMware Workstation can handle a number of different OSs and can even have several open at once). Unlike VMware Workstation, VMware Express doesn't allow you to use a pre-existing Windows partition. Instead, you must install Windos into a virtual partition in a file, slowing things down. In contrast, Win4Lin lets you install Windos _directly_ onto your GNU/Linux partition (this is the only way you can install), so you can benefit from the superior speed of filesystems (in comparison to FAT) like Ext2 and ReiserFS. A quick check of the VMware site shows that VMware Express costs $US49.95, which is cheaper than Win4Lin's $US79.99. In comparison, VMware Workstation costs $US299. If I had the choice between VMware Express and Win4Lin, I would pick Win4Lin, despite its higher price. It has been said that it is as fast or even faster than running Windos natively. There is also Connectix Virtual PC (http://www.connectix.com/products/vpc4w.html), but I know very little about this product. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] Alternatives help like Win4Lin?
VM is dearest by miles. Not sure of this one - seems to be similar in CPU demand to Windoze . From what I heard, windowze is more stable in VMWare than in Windowze. I have used it for a while and it is pretty good. Win4Lin is around $80. Seems to be a simple gui install.Claims to do everything one could need - IF stuck with Windows apps. Don't know it. I NEED GOOD printer output. Many printers are supported, it just depends on your idea of good. I am sure that is a lot better than my idea of good. I NEED a Scanner The average SCSI scanner (I use a cheap Mustek 6000SP) should already do it. Paul
Re: [newbie] Alternatives help like Win4Lin?
On Tuesday 24 July 2001 01:53, you wrote: I NEED a Scanner May I recommend the Epson 1200U, a USB scanner which I recently got for $105. It was quite easy to get it working in Linux and the scans are great. *** Powered by SuSE Linux 7.2 Professional KDE 2.1.2 KMail 1.2 Bryan S. Tyson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [newbie] Alternatives help like Win4Lin?
Hi Miark, Thanks for the summary. I seem to recall someone saying that it has problems with sound - I think it was from a Voice Recognition list - ? Your time is money theme is apt! My problem is really only in not wasting money. Win4 seems the clear winner all round. The only negative thing is having to trash my drives and reload everything again! I've got gigabytes of programs. I thought all you had to do was install win4 on top of an existing Linux system that still had a Windoze partition (or two). Any Newby-type hints from the install process? Were you on M8? What Doze ver? Did you d/l the win4 or buy a box? On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 03:03, you manipulated electrons to produce: I use Win4Lin. * It's a good price. * It's run all software so far. * You can configure drives however you want. I, for instance have it use FAT32 partition from my real Winsux installation, plus Reiser partitions. * It does real MS$ networking, including sharing of devices. * I haven't installed the printer yet, but I know you can install normal Windows print drivers, and anything else on the parallel port such as scanners. * It's stable. It rarely crashes, and when it does, I'm up again in about 10 seconds. My view is time is money and there's no way to escape the fact that _all_ solutions cost something significant. I just happen to be more willing to pay money than I was time, which all the free solutions cost. Miark -- Cheers, John http://counter.li.org GO HERE IF YOU SUPPORT LINUX! Fablor is now Webhosting?? What on earth for?? Info here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (it's only an Autoresponder) :-)
Re: [newbie] Alternatives help like Win4Lin?
Hi Sridhar, Thanks for all that! On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 18:22, you manipulated electrons to produce: Apps like IBM WebSphere HomePage Builder and WordPerfect are direct ports (i.e. the source code was modified to work well in Wine) to GNU/Linux. They are not simply Windos binary apps running through Wine. This is why they run so (well, sorta...) well compared to Windos apps in Wine. Aha! recently posted a rather lengthy diatribe about why M$ apps will not work in Wine. If you need a copy I can send it to you. ** Thanks - I'll just take the advice! :-) I wouldn't use Plex86 just yet. It _does_ show promise, but at present it is still buggy and slow. MandrakeSoft sponsor its development, so hopefully it should be usable soon. DirectX support is currently not very good, but I've managed to get a few DirectX games going. CD-burning is not supported in the current release. But, I take it by simply going back to your Mandrake you can use a CDW under it? Which Prog do you use? . Win4Lin is less taxing on systems than VMware, and is much faster. Like VMware, its current support for certain functions like DirectX and games are not very good. Well, the last things I need are games - I'm outtta time alla time as it is! You can get IBM ViaVoice for GNU/Linux: http://www-4.ibm.com/software/speech/linux/dictation.html I believe that Mandrake includes it in their PowerPack. Yes I have it in Powerpak 8 but no sound! If you are sure that you have done everything you can to get your sound working, perhaps you should look into buying a new sound card. Cheap sound boards can cost well under $A50, and a Sound Blaster Live! usually costs about $A100. * Well, that's the odd part. The system knows what my card is. And the next problem would be as to what card MIGHT work - listers seem to complain a lot about cards - even listed ones. Yamaha have a good rep with Dictation Users, but... I NEED either FrontPage 2000 or the Windoze version of Websphere at least. - the Linux/wine version is too cut down and painfully slow. The GNU ones are too stripped down no extras. As I mentioned above, M$ apps do not (and probably never will) work in WINE. You would need something like VMware or Win4Lin to use it. However, I must ask why you're using FrontPage. The HTML it generates is not standards-compliant, and is designed work best in IE (this is deliberate). If you design a website with FrontPage don't expect it to be viewable in other browsers (especially the *nix ones). Well in the harsh world, I never worried - 90% of all the prospects use I.E.:-) You have mentioned elsewhere that SCREEM is crash-prone. Have you tried Quanta+, Bluefish, Mozilla Composer and Amaya? Amaya is great to use in conjunction with other HTML creators, since it generates 100% standards-compliant code (it's made by the W3C). Not Amaya. Never heard of it till today. I sometimes make a page in StarOffice (which is pretty-good with HTML) and then make minor adjustments in Amaya to make it standards-compliant. * STAR OFFICE!!?? I must check it out, then. But what I miss are the simple things of life, like packaged so-easy-to-use templates and built-in scripts I NEED decent onscreen fonts - I work loong hours on the screen. The two best things I can suggest here is to import your Windos TrueType fonts and use them in apps with anti-aliasing (font smoothing for Windos users). All QT2 apps (e.g. anything KDE) has the potential to use anti-aliasing. Have you tried KOffice? KOffice Beta 3 was released about a month ago -- it is supposed to be very good. It may not have all the features of StarOffice, OpenOffice (BTW, a new OpenOffice build was released a few days ago) or M$ Word quite yet, but it has been said that most people only use 5% of the features of these huge office suites. KOffice has all the basics in place. *** QT2? Is it a setup procedure to get them to anti-alias? Also I have imported my Doze fonts but SOffice can't find them - or other things for that matter . I NEED GOOD printer output. IIRC, Lexmark has its own drivers and software for their printers. Have you tried the Lexmark web site? LinuxPrinting.org has an entry for your Lexmark Z32: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=317129 * Yes, I d/ldd the drivers but can't figure out how to get Star or default to use them. Normal procedure via Drake doesn't seem to take. Unless the Linux drivers are much, much poorer than the Dozers implementation. Try searching MandrakeForum.com for anything by Till Kamppeter (Mandrake's resident printing genius :-) ): http://mandrakeforum.com/search.php?query=type=storiessection=to pic=author=Tilldays=0sort=ts.time I NEED a Scanner I don't know much about GNU/Linux and scanners (I don't have one), but I know
[newbie] Alternatives help like Win4Lin?
Hi folks, This may seem like blasphemy, but might also be a sane solution for those who try it and it just won't go... It appears I can either: 1. Spend untold time hoping for a fix ( a week spent looking so far!) 2. Buy a lot of new stuff ( what do I do with the old?) 3. Quit and go back ( not an option!! :-) ) 4. Compromise... Win4Lin or VM or WINE or XP86 whatever it is. The most logical move financially and timewise seems Win4Lin or similar. Anyone with handson experience of any of the above I would appreciate your help. WINE is free. Can't get any sense out of it as far as applications etc go - except I just found that it is what runs Websphere on Linux!! ( I have it) Have no idea how to test it or run progs under it. XP86/BOSH . Not able to comprehend it either, Civileme says it has promise, but I could not find out anything usable about it on its Site. Also Free. No idea how to run/test it either VM is dearest by miles. Not sure of this one - seems to be similar in CPU demand to Windoze . Win4Lin is around $80. Seems to be a simple gui install.Claims to do everything one could need - IF stuck with Windows apps. I apparently am. I NEED Voice Dictation. Am going nutz fighting M8 without it now. M8 wont talk to my Sound. I NEED either FrontPage 2000 or the Windoze version of Websphere at least. - the Linux/wine version is too cut down and painfully slow. The GNU ones are too stripped down no extras. I NEED decent onscreen fonts - I work loong hours on the screen. I NEED GOOD printer output. I NEED a Scanner -- Cheers, John http://counter.li.org GO HERE IF YOU SUPPORT LINUX! Fablor is now Webhosting?? What on earth for?? Info here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (it's only an Autoresponder) :-)
