Re: [newbie] Urpmi update problem.
On Saturday 02 Apr 2005 20:52, Mr. Geek wrote: Simon; You have to uninstall libMagick7.8.1 = 6.1.8.9-0.1010.1plf and possibly ImageMagick-6.1.8.9-0.1010.1plf before you can install the newer version of both packages using; urpme ImageMagick-6.1.8.9-0.1010.1plf which should also remove the old libMagick7.8.1 = 6.1.8.9-0.1010.1plf in the process. It will probably ask you if that's OK. What I don't know is if anything else will need removal at the same time, but again it should ask. Once that's done repeat the first command to install the newer versions. That's great, all done. Thanks for your help. Simon. -- Linux Counter number 359744. http://counter.li.org/ GnuPG Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xE94E2292 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Urpmi update problem.
Simon wrote: On Saturday 02 Apr 2005 20:52, Mr. Geek wrote: Simon; You have to uninstall libMagick7.8.1 = 6.1.8.9-0.1010.1plf and possibly ImageMagick-6.1.8.9-0.1010.1plf before you can install the newer version of both packages using; urpme ImageMagick-6.1.8.9-0.1010.1plf which should also remove the old libMagick7.8.1 = 6.1.8.9-0.1010.1plf in the process. It will probably ask you if that's OK. What I don't know is if anything else will need removal at the same time, but again it should ask. Once that's done repeat the first command to install the newer versions. That's great, all done. Thanks for your help. Simon. NP Simon. -- Mr. Geek Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] urpmi adding resources
I looked at the Twiki for instructions how to add resources and followed them, but failed to add Thacs RPMs. I'm wondering if I have used the command incorrectly. urpmi.addmedia nameofmedia http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/ with ../base/hdlist.cz Am I supposed to name the media maybe? Any help appreciated. Thanks Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi adding resources
Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: I looked at the Twiki for instructions how to add resources and followed them, but failed to add Thacs RPMs. I'm wondering if I have used the command incorrectly. urpmi.addmedia nameofmedia http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/ with ../base/hdlist.cz Am I supposed to name the media maybe? Any help appreciated. Thanks Rosemary Rosemary; You're command was a bit off. This one below should work fine. Remember that there's a space between 'RPMS/' and 'with'. urpmi.addmedia thacs.rpms http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/ with hdlist.cz -- Mr. Geek Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi adding resources
On Monday 21 Mar 2005 01:31, Mr. Geek wrote: Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: I looked at the Twiki for instructions how to add resources and followed them, but failed to add Thacs RPMs. I'm wondering if I have used the command incorrectly. urpmi.addmedia nameofmedia http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/ with ../base/hdlist.cz Am I supposed to name the media maybe? Any help appreciated. Thanks Rosemary Rosemary; You're command was a bit off. This one below should work fine. Remember that there's a space between 'RPMS/' and 'with'. urpmi.addmedia thacs.rpms http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS/ with hdlist.cz Ah - thank you. That makes sense. I'll do that. Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Urpmi TWiki out of date
Greetings, I was just looking at the Urpmi TWiki at http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/UsingUrpmi and It says to copy the base/ and Mandrake/ directories to a foler you create on the hard drive. My CDs (10.1) do not have these two folders, which leads me to believe the TWiki is out of date. My question is, which folders should I copy over? Thanks, JB Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi can't locate URPM.pm
Steven Carrie wrote: Hi everyone, this is my first cry for help on the newbie list. I was tinkering with mandrake 10.1 and decided to upgrade to the cooker source. Can't locate URPM.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.6/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.6 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.4 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.1 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl .) at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/urpm.pm line 16. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/urpm.pm line 16. Compilation failed in require at /usr/sbin/urpmi line 22. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/urpmi line 22. The system has also become unstable, not connecting network and trying to open MCC fails. I had a similar problem and fixed it by removing the perl packages from cooker and re-installing the perl packages from an 'update' source. worked for me. HTH. Graham Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi firefox
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:06:29 -0800 Amy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can find information and directions on how to set it up on the site: http://www.eslrahc.com/ He also offers RPMs for stuff like gaim, and other popular programs that don't get updated very frequently on the official mirrors. Currently in Charles mirror there's Firefox 1.0, but another great unofficial urmpi repository is http://norlug.org/?op=rpms in which you can find 1.0.1 -- Corrado Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi firefox
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 01:06 am, Amy wrote: On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:47:00 -0500, Julie Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when I urpmi firefox it wants to give me -0.8 instead of the new -1.0.1. I'm not sure how you can make the source you're trying to use work, but I can direct you to a better one that I know a good number of people here on the list use. If you're running 10.1, probably the easiest way to get an up to date version of Firefox would be to use Charles Edward's mirror. You can find information and directions on how to set it up on the site: http://www.eslrahc.com/ thank you Amy I do have Charles set up as a source but I am running Mdk10.0 -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi firefox
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 08:49 am, Smiley wrote: On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:06:29 -0800 Amy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can find information and directions on how to set it up on the site: http://www.eslrahc.com/ He also offers RPMs for stuff like gaim, and other popular programs that don't get updated very frequently on the official mirrors. Currently in Charles mirror there's Firefox 1.0, but another great unofficial urmpi repository is http://norlug.org/?op=rpms in which you can find 1.0.1 thank you, I'm adding norlug now :) -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] urpmi can't locate URPM.pm
Hi everyone, this is my first cry for help on the newbie list. I was tinkering with mandrake 10.1 and decided to upgrade to the cooker source. So I updated my urpmi sources and began to install. Shortly into the process the power failed because my PSU has gone dodgy. Now when I try anything with urpmi, I get the following error. Can't locate URPM.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.6/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.6 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.4 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.1 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl .) at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/urpm.pm line 16. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/urpm.pm line 16. Compilation failed in require at /usr/sbin/urpmi line 22. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/urpmi line 22. The system has also become unstable, not connecting network and trying to open MCC fails. In /usr/lib/perl5 are directories for 5.8.5 and 5.8.6, the file urpm.pm does not exist as far as I can see. So the big question! Can I fix this or will I have to make a fresh install? Any help you can offer is much appreciated. Steven Carrie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi can't locate URPM.pm
Steven Carrie wrote: Hi everyone, this is my first cry for help on the newbie list. I was tinkering with mandrake 10.1 and decided to upgrade to the cooker source. So I updated my urpmi sources and began to install. Shortly into the process the power failed because my PSU has gone dodgy. Now when I try anything with urpmi, I get the following error. The system has also become unstable, not connecting network and trying to open MCC fails. In /usr/lib/perl5 are directories for 5.8.5 and 5.8.6, the file urpm.pm does not exist as far as I can see. So the big question! Can I fix this or will I have to make a fresh install? Any help you can offer is much appreciated. Steven Carrie Steven; Been there, done that. You're looking at a fresh install from my experience. It took me about 2 hours to find out that I could have re-installed faster then fixing the problem. Your problem occurred because urpmi tried to upgrade Perl, which is required for urpmi as well as MCC and a whack of other apps. It will be a lot less painful and faster to re-install. Just make sure that you don't let the installer touch your /home partition. It's OK if it wants to create a mount point for it, but that should be all. Hope that helps. I can sympathize with your situation since I went through the same thing. Good luck. -- Mr. Geek Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] urpmi firefox
when I urpmi firefox it wants to give me -0.8 instead of the new -1.0.1. I've been to the website and looked at the 1.0.1 rpm, which gives its location as http://ftp.kddilabs.jp/Mozilla/firefox/releases/1.0.1/linux-i686/en-US/ but when I tried to add this (up to the first slash before Mozilla) as an urpmi medium I got five minutes of 0% of 0 at speed 0. What did I do wrong? Do I need to d/l the -0.8 and then upgrade to the -1.0.1 or d/l the -1.0-1 rpm or is there another way? ty -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi firefox
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:47:00 -0500, Julie Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when I urpmi firefox it wants to give me -0.8 instead of the new -1.0.1. I've been to the website and looked at the 1.0.1 rpm, which gives its location as http://ftp.kddilabs.jp/Mozilla/firefox/releases/1.0.1/linux-i686/en-US/ but when I tried to add this (up to the first slash before Mozilla) as an urpmi medium I got five minutes of 0% of 0 at speed 0. What did I do wrong? Do I need to d/l the -0.8 and then upgrade to the -1.0.1 or d/l the -1.0-1 rpm or is there another way? ty -- Julie I'm not sure how you can make the source you're trying to use work, but I can direct you to a better one that I know a good number of people here on the list use. If you're running 10.1, probably the easiest way to get an up to date version of Firefox would be to use Charles Edward's mirror. You can find information and directions on how to set it up on the site: http://www.eslrahc.com/ He also offers RPMs for stuff like gaim, and other popular programs that don't get updated very frequently on the official mirrors. I hope that helps. -- I have 50 invites to gmail, do you have a gmail account yet? Do you want one? Talk to me! ~~ ^..^ ~~ http://deathkitten.net Words are, of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind. ~Rudyard Kipling Several friends have asked me if I will again leave the country. In light of the failure--a second time--to count all the votes, that won't be necessary. My country has left me. ~Greg Palast Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi: command not found
joe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: RickSisler wrote: did you try what bascule mentions: try the full path to urpmi # /usr/sbin/urpmi glabels I did, and like magic, urpmi worked. The question I have, is why is /usr/sbin no longer in my $PATH, and/or how should I edit my bashrc so that it is. Here is what i get from echo $PATH: echo $PATH /usr/lib/distcc/bin:/home/fcrozat/GNUstep/Tools:/usr/GNUstep/Local/Tools :/usr/GNUstep/System/Tools:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin :/usr/games:/home/fcrozat/bin Joe, why do you have fcrozat settings I wonder ? I wouldn't think a rpm package would bring that in ? is your username fcrozat ? or do you have a user named fcrozat ? did you type echo $PATH from a root login ? which you did before but I am just confirming it .. something sounds strange here .. GNUstep is for LSB compliance, I think, can someone conform this ? What version of mdk are you using ? 10.1 ? (I mis-spoke myself about /etc/bashrc, mine is customized. And I typed from my user's PATH, which is different than root's, sorry) On my other system, which is not custom but a fresh install, root's .bashrc is also setting the $PATH PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin Then /etc/profile seems to add /usr/X11R6/bin and /usr/games A look in rc.sysinit (which is a symlink to /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit) for the global path statements, verifing these lines: rc.sysinit: # Set the path rc.sysinit: PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin you have these in your posted path, *except* /usr/sbin/ Verify that it is missing in /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit file, if so, add it, reboot and you should be back on track. HTH -- RickS gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.keyserver.net 0x24AABE61 The notion of looking on at life has always been hateful to me. What am I if I am not a participant? In order to be, I must participate. --Antoine de Saint-Exupery Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi: command not found
joe wrote: RickSisler wrote: joe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: bascule wrote: have you checked your path? echo $PATH try the full path to urpmi /usr/sbin/urpmi glabels [EMAIL PROTECTED] echo $path Joe, the variable name is declared with Capital letters, so type:: # echo $PATH I am working on setting up my path again. Wondering what happened to it. if the above doesn't work, check your /etc/bashrc .. did you try what bascule mentions: try the full path to urpmi # /usr/sbin/urpmi glabels I did, and like magic, urpmi worked. The question I have, is why is /usr/sbin no longer in my $PATH, and/or how should I edit my bashrc so that it is. Here is what i get from echo $PATH: echo $PATH /usr/lib/distcc/bin:/home/fcrozat/GNUstep/Tools:/usr/GNUstep/Local/Tools:/usr/GNUstep/System/Tools:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/home/fcrozat/bin The directoryies /sbin, /usr/sbin and /usr/local/sbin are not normaly in a user's path. They are in root's path when you log in as root, or when you su - to root. Normaly, when you do su instead of su -, you keep the same path. But in Mandrake 10.1, when ever root opens a shell, the path is set to fixed path by /root/.bashrc. So you may want to check the .bashrc file in /root to be sure it is correct. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi: command not found PROBLEM SOLVED
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: The directoryies /sbin, /usr/sbin and /usr/local/sbin are not normaly in a user's path. They are in root's path when you log in as root, or when you su - to root. Normaly, when you do su instead of su -, you keep the same path. But in Mandrake 10.1, when ever root opens a shell, the path is set to fixed path by /root/.bashrc. So you may want to check the .bashrc file in /root to be sure it is correct. Mikkel Problem solved! Never used su - before, but when I did, echo $PATH reported: /sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin URPMI works (again). \ Thanks to all for the help. Joe. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi: command not found
bascule wrote: have you checked your path? echo $PATH try the full path to urpmi /usr/sbin/urpmi glabels [EMAIL PROTECTED] echo $path [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/sbin/urpmi urpmi version 4.5 Copyright (C) 1999-2004 Mandrakesoft. This is free software and may be redistributed under the terms of the GNU GPL. usage: --help - print this help message. I am working on setting up my path again. Wondering what happened to it. Thanks for the help Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi: command not found
joe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: bascule wrote: have you checked your path? echo $PATH try the full path to urpmi /usr/sbin/urpmi glabels [EMAIL PROTECTED] echo $path Joe, the variable name is declared with Capital letters, so type:: # echo $PATH /sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin: /usr/games:/usr/lib/jre-1.4.2_05/bin:/home/ricks/bin:/home/ricks/scripts I am working on setting up my path again. Wondering what happened to it. if the above doesn't work, check your /etc/bashrc .. did you try what bascule mentions: try the full path to urpmi # /usr/sbin/urpmi glabels HTH -- RickS gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.keyserver.net 0x24AABE61 The notion of looking on at life has always been hateful to me. What am I if I am not a participant? In order to be, I must participate. --Antoine de Saint-Exupery Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi: command not found
RickSisler wrote:
joe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
bascule wrote:
have you checked your path?
echo $PATH
try the full path to urpmi
/usr/sbin/urpmi glabels
[EMAIL PROTECTED] echo $path
Joe,
the variable name is declared with Capital letters, so type::
# echo $PATH
I am working on setting up my path again. Wondering what happened to
it.
if the above doesn't work, check your /etc/bashrc ..
did you try what bascule mentions:
try the full path to urpmi
# /usr/sbin/urpmi glabels
I did, and like magic, urpmi worked.
The question I have, is why is /usr/sbin no longer in my $PATH, and/or
how should I edit my bashrc so that it is.
Here is what i get from echo $PATH:
echo $PATH
/usr/lib/distcc/bin:/home/fcrozat/GNUstep/Tools:/usr/GNUstep/Local/Tools:/usr/GNUstep/System/Tools:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/home/fcrozat/bin
I had a look at /etc/bashrc, it's not really well documented (at least i
had trouble following it). Here it is if anyone is interested:
# /etc/bashrc
# System wide functions and aliases
# Environment stuff goes in /etc/profile
# by default, we want this to get set.
# Even for non-interactive, non-login shells.
if [ `id -gn` = `id -un` -a `id -u` -gt 99 ]; then
umask 002
else
umask 022
fi
# are we an interactive shell?
if [ $PS1 ]; then
case $TERM in
xterm*)
PROMPT_COMMAND='echo -ne \033]0;[EMAIL PROTECTED]: ${PWD}\007'
;;
*)
;;
esac
[ $PS1 = \\s-\\v\\\$ ] PS1=[EMAIL PROTECTED] \W]\\$
if [ -z $loginsh ]; then # We're not a login shell
for i in /etc/profile.d/*.sh; do
if [ -x $i ]; then
. $i
fi
done
fi
fi
unset lo
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Re: [newbie] urpmi database blocked
Tahir Abdullah wrote: Thanks Aron When I tried to follow the three steps on the web-site following error comes urpmi database locked WHat is this problem. This usually happens after failed or interrupted download/installation. To cure it, as root in terminal: rm /var/lib/urpmi/.LOCK and rm /var/lib/urpmi/.RPMLOCK -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Thunderbird on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk ~~~ Chism's Law of Completion: The amount of time required to complete a government project is precisely equal to the length of time already spent on it. ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi database blocked
Aron Smith wrote: On Thursday 10 March 2005 10:56 pm, Tahir Abdullah wrote: Thanks Aron When I tried to follow the three steps on the web-site following error comes urpmi database locked WHat is this problem. a reboot will fix this (inelegent and there is probably a better way) The second problem is whenever I send mail from my hotmail. It goes twice How can I fix it? best solution is to not use hotmail but leaving the reply to field blank usually works I appreciate any guidance. Thanks Tahir _ Hotmail's great for sending photos. Click here to find out more: http://www.imagine-msn.com/Hotmail/Post/Communicate/SendEmail.aspx urpmi will be locked if it is in use ~ possibly still trying to contact one of your media sites which is not responding. Google ( I prefer www.vivisimo.com ) for urpmi.unlock and install it ~ you may already have it ~ try 'urpmi.unlock' at the root prompt. If not you may need to manually download it and install it using rpm -Uvh . Unless you are doing a kernel rebuild there is no need to reboot your system ~ you will learn more by fixing such problems by working through them and you'll find that there are many here that will always assist, especially is you give details to your problems. Hope this helps. -- Newbie Seeking USER_FUNCTIONALITY always! Regards SnapafunFrank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi: command not found
maybe you su from one user ... try su - , urpmi is not available for normal users. joe wrote: Anyone have an idea why urpmi stopped working? Mandrake 10.1 official. Been using it sucsessfully for quite a while now. urpmi shows up in rpmdrake, I apparently sucessfully (re)-installed it. Yet i get [EMAIL PROTECTED] home]# urpmi glabels bash: urpmi: command not found Googling has thus far been unenlightening. Joe. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com -- Adrian Coman ASIC design/verification consultant mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: +40 745 986 106 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi: command not found
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[newbie] urpmi: command not found
Anyone have an idea why urpmi stopped working? Mandrake 10.1 official. Been using it sucsessfully for quite a while now. urpmi shows up in rpmdrake, I apparently sucessfully (re)-installed it. Yet i get [EMAIL PROTECTED] home]# urpmi glabels bash: urpmi: command not found Googling has thus far been unenlightening. Joe. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi: command not found
have you checked your path? echo $PATH try the full path to urpmi /usr/sbin/urpmi glabels bascule On Friday 11 Mar 2005 03:47, joe wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] home]# urpmi glabels bash: urpmi: command not found -- The kraken stirs. And ten billion sushi dinners cry out for vengeance. -- (Terry Pratchett Neil Gaiman, Good Omens) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi: command not found
On Friday 11 March 2005 12:02 pm, bascule wrote: have you checked your path? echo $PATH try the full path to urpmi /usr/sbin/urpmi glabels bascule On Friday 11 Mar 2005 03:47, joe wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] home]# urpmi glabels bash: urpmi: command not found Also try locate it by hand: locate urpmi You might need to run the updatedb command first. HTH, Fajar. -- Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | http://linux2.arinet.org 13:10:15 up 16:06, Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Official) for i586 public key: https://www.arinet.org/fajar-pub.key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] urpmi database blocked
Thanks Aron When I tried to follow the three steps on the web-site following error comes urpmi database locked WHat is this problem. The second problem is whenever I send mail from my hotmail. It goes twice How can I fix it? I appreciate any guidance. Thanks Tahir _ Hotmail's great for sending photos. Click here to find out more: http://www.imagine-msn.com/Hotmail/Post/Communicate/SendEmail.aspx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] urpmi database blocked
Thanks Aron When I tried to follow the three steps on the web-site following error comes urpmi database locked WHat is this problem. The second problem is whenever I send mail from my hotmail. It goes twice How can I fix it? I appreciate any guidance. Thanks Tahir _ Hotmail's great for sending photos. Click here to find out more: http://www.imagine-msn.com/Hotmail/Post/Communicate/SendEmail.aspx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi database blocked
On Thursday 10 March 2005 10:56 pm, Tahir Abdullah wrote: Thanks Aron When I tried to follow the three steps on the web-site following error comes urpmi database locked WHat is this problem. a reboot will fix this (inelegent and there is probably a better way) The second problem is whenever I send mail from my hotmail. It goes twice How can I fix it? best solution is to not use hotmail but leaving the reply to field blank usually works I appreciate any guidance. Thanks Tahir _ Hotmail's great for sending photos. Click here to find out more: http://www.imagine-msn.com/Hotmail/Post/Communicate/SendEmail.aspx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi query
Graham Watkins wrote: Hi Y'all, Recently, while attempting to 'urpmi' a new program, I got the following message at the command line: unable to access hdlist file of eslrahc, medium ignored I presume this means that a source has become messed up somehow. What do I have to do to get it put right? cheers, If I were to see this , this is what I would attempt first: 1. # urpmi.removemedia eslrahc 2. I would then browse to Charles site www.eslrahc.com and click on your actual distribution version. At the top of the page is the suggested link for adding eslrahc back onto you urpmi . but read on first. Though mine is Mandrake 10 and would look like this : urpmi.addmedia eslrahc http://www.eslrahc.com/10.0/ with hdlist.cz I would add the switches ' c ' and ' f ' like so : urpmi.addmedia -c -f eslrahc http://www.eslrahc.com/10.0/ with hdlist.cz I have found that when I have any problems with any particular media, this way seems to always put things right. Using the two switches as above as become standard practice for me when I update my own onboard downloaded rpm directory because it doesn't have a hlist to start with. Hope it helps. -- Newbie Seeking USER_FUNCTIONALITY always! Regards SnapafunFrank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi query
JoeHill wrote: On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 07:35:28 + Graham Watkins disseminated the following: I presume this means that a source has become messed up somehow. What do I have to do to get it put right? Well, this may not be the 'best' sol'n, but try removing and adding the source again. I had to do this a little while ago because apparently something had changed on his end. Did it. It appears to have done the trick. Thanks. -- Graham Watkins It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] urpmi --fuzzy downloads without asking!
when I do urpmi --fuzzy package, it sometimes downloads the package anyway, without giving me a choice. Am I misunderstanding this switch? I expected to be asked regardless how many similar packages there were (even if there was only one) Jarlath Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi --fuzzy downloads without asking!
On Sunday 06 March 2005 3:25 pm, JR wrote: when I do urpmi --fuzzy package, it sometimes downloads the package anyway, without giving me a choice. Am I misunderstanding this switch? I expected to be asked regardless how many similar packages there were (even if there was only one) If there is only one match, it will try to d/l it for you. I usually just press ctl-c to kill it, but you can run --test to not allow it to upload anything. Rob -- Linux User #183693 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi --fuzzy downloads without asking!
JR wrote: when I do urpmi --fuzzy package, it sometimes downloads the package anyway, without giving me a choice. Am I misunderstanding this switch? I expected to be asked regardless how many similar packages there were (even if there was only one) Jarlath urpmi --fuzzy package *does* automatically download the package if there is only one matching. If you only want to see what is available, but not download, you should use urpmq --fuzzy package -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Thunderbird on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk ~~~ Humor in the Court: Q: ...and what did he do then? A: He came home, and next morning he was dead. Q: So when he woke up the next morning he was dead? ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi query
On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 07:35:28 + Graham Watkins disseminated the following: I presume this means that a source has become messed up somehow. What do I have to do to get it put right? Well, this may not be the 'best' sol'n, but try removing and adding the source again. I had to do this a little while ago because apparently something had changed on his end. -- JoeHill / RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 09:28:22 up 12 days, 11:31, 9 users, load average: 0.03, 0.02, 0.00 +++ Call on God, but row away from the rocks. -- Hunter S. Thompson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] URPMI help
Well, I just had occasion to (re)use the Easy URPMI site at: http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/ and I'm having problems with it. I can go through the 3 steps, but no matter how many times I do it, or what browser I use, or which site I use, it always displays 10.1 as the distro in the cut 'n paste section, when 9.2 is what I want. So I thought, no biggie, I'll just manually change 10.1 to 9.2 in the command once I've got it in a shell. Tried that...multiple times, but it always searches the site(s), says its unable to do its thing and quits out. So what happened to the easy in Easy URPMI? ;-) Thanks. PS Well, I just tried the PLF non-free and free, and those worked by changing the 10.1 to 9.2, but the others still won't work. :-( Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] URPMI help
On March 4, 2005 09:48 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Well, I just had occasion to (re)use the Easy URPMI site at: http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/ and I'm having problems with it. I can go through the 3 steps, but no matter how many times I do it, or what browser I use, or which site I use, it always displays 10.1 as the distro in the cut 'n paste section, when 9.2 is what I want. So I thought, no biggie, I'll just manually change 10.1 to 9.2 in the command once I've got it in a shell. Tried that...multiple times, but it always searches the site(s), says its unable to do its thing and quits out. So what happened to the easy in Easy URPMI? ;-) Sounds like the servers are no longer holding 9.2 PS Well, I just tried the PLF non-free and free, and those worked by changing the 10.1 to 9.2, but the others still won't work. :-( I don't think plf is kept on the same servers. I could be wrong Regards, Dan Gordon -- Fri Mar 4 09:55:05 EST 2005 09:55:05 up 20:56, 1 user, load average: 0.20, 0.08, 0.01 If God wanted us to be brave, why did he give us legs? -- Marvin Kitman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] URPMI help
On Friday 04 March 2005 14:48, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Well, I just had occasion to (re)use the Easy URPMI site at: http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/ and I'm having problems with it. I can go through the 3 steps, but no matter how many times I do it, or what browser I use, or which site I use, it always displays 10.1 as the distro in the cut 'n paste section, when 9.2 is what I want. So I thought, no biggie, I'll just manually change 10.1 to 9.2 in the command once I've got it in a shell. Tried that...multiple times, but it always searches the site(s), says its unable to do its thing and quits out. So what happened to the easy in Easy URPMI? ;-) Thanks. PS Well, I just tried the PLF non-free and free, and those worked by changing the 10.1 to 9.2, but the others still won't work. :-( Did you click the Proceed to step2 button before selecting your sources? I just tried it and it works. BTW: The page is quite pretty now isn't it? derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] URPMI help
On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 16:48, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Well, I just had occasion to (re)use the Easy URPMI site at: http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/ and I'm having problems with it. I can go through the 3 steps, but no matter how many times I do it, or what browser I use, or which site I use, it always displays 10.1 as the distro in the cut 'n paste section, when 9.2 is what I want. So I thought, no biggie, I'll just manually change 10.1 to 9.2 in the command once I've got it in a shell. Tried that...multiple times, but it always searches the site(s), says its unable to do its thing and quits out. So what happened to the easy in Easy URPMI? ;-) Thanks. PS Well, I just tried the PLF non-free and free, and those worked by changing the 10.1 to 9.2, but the others still won't work. :-( Go to the sites mentioned in easyurpmi in any browser and go up a directory. Choose 9.2 and use edit the command you get in easyurpmi accordingly. e.g. easy urpmi gives urpmi.addmedia plf-free ftp://mandrake.lcpe.uni-sofia.bg/plf/free/10.1 with synthesis.hdlist.cz a visit to this site gives the 9.2 command as: urpmi.addmedia plf-free ftp://mandrake.lcpe.uni-sofia.bg/plf/free/9.2/i586/ with ../synthesis.hdlist.cz (the synthesis hdlists are in the 9.2 directory, not the i586 directory) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] URPMI help
On Friday 04 March 2005 09:58 am, Derek Jennings wrote: On Friday 04 March 2005 14:48, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Did you click the Proceed to step2 button before selecting your sources? Hmm, I thought that I did - maybe I got in a hurry and missed it (multiple times - shaking head at self). I'll go try it again. I just tried it and it works. BTW: The page is quite pretty now isn't it? derek Yes, it is! Big improvement, definitely easier on the old orbs. :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] urpmi query
Hi Y'all, Recently, while attempting to 'urpmi' a new program, I got the following message at the command line: unable to access hdlist file of eslrahc, medium ignored I presume this means that a source has become messed up somehow. What do I have to do to get it put right? cheers, -- Graham Watkins It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] urpmi backups to disk?
Hi all, is there a way I can save a copy of my urpmi updates to disk, so that if I need to reinstall / I can also reinstall the updates without having to download for hours? thanks Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi backups to disk?
On Wed, 2005-02-23 at 15:15 -0500, Julie Sloan wrote: Hi all, is there a way I can save a copy of my urpmi updates to disk, so that if I need to reinstall / I can also reinstall the updates without having to download for hours? thanks Julie Use the --noclean switch. The rpms will be in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms. I maintain several systems that are in rural areas where the telephone lines are literally nailed to the fenceposts and updating on-line would be expensive. I update my Mandrake machine here at the lab with urpmi --update --auto-select --noclean --wget and then make a cd with the updates that I can carry up the bayou. Once there, I copy to the hard disk, define a source like urpmi.addmedia rpms101 file:///root/rpms101 and urpmi.update rpms101 (if I've added to it since defining it) and then just urpmi --auto-select does the update. Works really well; urpmi is better than apt-get or anything else I've used for this situation. HTH -- N. B. Day Registered Linux user # 333228 @ http://counter.li.org N 30 1.602 W 90 4.070 2:35pm up 9 days 7:15, 3 users, load average: 0.06, 0.10, 0.09 SuSE Linux 9.2 (i586) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi backups to disk?
On Wednesday 23 February 2005 03:35 pm, N. B. Day wrote: On Wed, 2005-02-23 at 15:15 -0500, Julie Sloan wrote: Hi all, is there a way I can save a copy of my urpmi updates to disk, so that if I need to reinstall / I can also reinstall the updates without having to download for hours? thanks Julie Use the --noclean switch. The rpms will be in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms. I maintain several systems that are in rural areas where the telephone lines are literally nailed to the fenceposts and updating on-line would be expensive. I update my Mandrake machine here at the lab with urpmi --update --auto-select --noclean --wget and then make a cd with the updates that I can carry up the bayou. Once there, I copy to the hard disk, define a source like urpmi.addmedia rpms101 file:///root/rpms101 and urpmi.update rpms101 (if I've added to it since defining it) and then just urpmi --auto-select does the update. Works really well; urpmi is better than apt-get or anything else I've used for this situation. HTH Thank you so very much. Also for the speed of your reply. Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi backups to disk?
On Wednesday 23 February 2005 12:35 pm, N. B. Day wrote: On Wed, 2005-02-23 at 15:15 -0500, Julie Sloan wrote: Hi all, is there a way I can save a copy of my urpmi updates to disk, so that if I need to reinstall / I can also reinstall the updates without having to download for hours? thanks Julie Use the --noclean switch. The rpms will be in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms. I maintain several systems that are in rural areas where the telephone lines are literally nailed to the fenceposts and updating on-line would be expensive. I update my Mandrake machine here at the lab with urpmi --update --auto-select --noclean --wget and then make a cd with the updates that I can carry up the bayou. Once there, I copy to the hard disk, define a source like urpmi.addmedia rpms101 file:///root/rpms101 and urpmi.update rpms101 (if I've added to it since defining it) and then just urpmi --auto-select does the update. Works really well; urpmi is better than apt-get or anything else I've used for this situation. hey Boudeaux why no updates Gator ate them and the tech too (some IT jobs are more hazardious than others) HTH Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi backups to disk?
On Thursday 24 February 2005 06:56 am, Aron Smith wrote: Use the --noclean switch. The rpms will be in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms. Oh boy, I wish I knew it before :( -- Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | http://linux2.arinet.org 07:01:32 up 7:26, Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Official) for i586 public key: https://www.arinet.org/fajar-pub.key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi backups to disk?
On Wednesday 23 February 2005 07:02 pm, Fajar Priyanto wrote: On Thursday 24 February 2005 06:56 am, Aron Smith wrote: Use the --noclean switch. The rpms will be in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms. Oh boy, I wish I knew it before :( Me too. Only 952Mb to go at 56Kbps Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] URPMI Issue??
When I try to install something via urpmi I get the follwoing error? error: failed to stat /home/data_on_wxps1: Input/output error Now, /home/data_... is an old local directory that I had a rpm dir. mirrored to. Since then I have changed the dir where I rsync rpms to. I also updated all the media but it is still looking for the old dir? I can't figure out where or why it is still looking for this directory. urpmi still works, it is just really slow? urpmi -clean did not fix this issue? Thanks H. Crissman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi advice needed (1)
On Friday 04 February 2005 11:22 am, Paul wrote: I'm having some problems installing gimp 2 on a 10.2 beta system. Urpmi tells me it is installed when I try to install, urpme tells me its not there when I try to remove. Slocate doesn't find it. I've rebuilt the rpm database (twice), with no effect. When posting questions such as this, posting the exact commands entered and the exact messages returned is extrememly helpful, and helps eliminate a lot of guessing on the part of well-meaning people. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] urpmi advice needed (1)
I'm having some problems installing gimp 2 on a 10.2 beta system. Urpmi tells me it is installed when I try to install, urpme tells me its not there when I try to remove. Slocate doesn't find it. I've rebuilt the rpm database (twice), with no effect. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Urpmi advice needed (2)
After looking at the wiki, I found the command rpm -Va and applied it. Part of the output is as follows (to provide an example only) S.5T /usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives/fonts.cache-1 missing/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/encodings.dir S.5T c /etc/hotplug/blacklist .M.. c /etc/init.d/hotplug S.5T /usr/share/fonts/ttf/western/fonts.cache-1 'missing' is obvious, but what are the others (e.g. S.5T)? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi advice needed (1)
On Friday 04 February 2005 08:22 am, Paul wrote: I'm having some problems installing gimp 2 on a 10.2 beta system. Urpmi tells me it is installed when I try to install, urpme tells me its not there when I try to remove. Slocate doesn't find it. I've rebuilt the rpm database (twice), with no effect. did you run (as root) updatedb ? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Urpmi advice needed (2)
Paul wrote: After looking at the wiki, I found the command rpm -Va and applied it. Part of the output is as follows (to provide an example only) S.5T /usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives/fonts.cache-1 missing/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/encodings.dir S.5T c /etc/hotplug/blacklist .M.. c /etc/init.d/hotplug S.5T /usr/share/fonts/ttf/western/fonts.cache-1 'missing' is obvious, but what are the others (e.g. S.5T)? I don't remember where I copied this from but it goes: Verifying installed files vs. rpm: rpm -v package_name When verifying a package, RPM produces output only if there is a verification failure. When a file fails verification, the format of the output is a bit cryptic, but it packs all the information you need into one line per file. Here is the format: SM5DLUGT c file Where: *S is the file size. *M is the file's mode. *5 is the MD5 checksum of the file. *D is the file's major and minor numbers. *L is the file's symbolic link contents. *U is owner of the file. *G is the file's group. *T is the modification time of the file. *c appears only if the file is a configuration file. This is handy for quickly identifying config files, as they are very likely to change, and therefore, very unlikely to verify successfully. *file is the file that failed verification. The complete path is listed to make it easy to find. It's unlikely that every file attribute will fail to verify, so each of the eight attribute flags will only appear if there is a problem. Otherwise, a . will be printed in that flag's place. -- Avi Schwartz http://public.xdi.org/=avi.schwartz When you have robbed a man of everything, he is no longer in your power. He is free again. -- Alexander Solzhenitsyn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi advice needed (1)
On Fri, 2005-02-04 at 18:27, Aron Smith wrote: On Friday 04 February 2005 08:22 am, Paul wrote: I'm having some problems installing gimp 2 on a 10.2 beta system. Urpmi tells me it is installed when I try to install, urpme tells me its not there when I try to remove. Slocate doesn't find it. I've rebuilt the rpm database (twice), with no effect. did you run (as root) updatedb ? yes, still no joy. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi advice needed (1)
On Friday 04 February 2005 04:47 pm, Paul wrote: On Fri, 2005-02-04 at 18:27, Aron Smith wrote: On Friday 04 February 2005 08:22 am, Paul wrote: I'm having some problems installing gimp 2 on a 10.2 beta system. Urpmi tells me it is installed when I try to install, urpme tells me its not there when I try to remove. Slocate doesn't find it. I've rebuilt the rpm database (twice), with no effect. did you run (as root) updatedb ? yes, still no joy. Paul, do you use KDE? If so, use the GUI manager for urpmi, and *if* you can find the package in question listed, in either remove or install, look at the file listing in the right plane. You might be able to use that list, to go see if the files are actually there, and delete all of them, then start over trying to install it. Good luck. -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Urpmi advice needed (2)
On Fri, 2005-02-04 at 18:35, Avi Schwartz wrote: Paul wrote: After looking at the wiki, I found the command rpm -Va and applied it. Part of the output is as follows (to provide an example only) S.5T /usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives/fonts.cache-1 missing/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/encodings.dir S.5T c /etc/hotplug/blacklist .M.. c /etc/init.d/hotplug S.5T /usr/share/fonts/ttf/western/fonts.cache-1 'missing' is obvious, but what are the others (e.g. S.5T)? I don't remember where I copied this from but it goes: Verifying installed files vs. rpm: rpm -v package_name When verifying a package, RPM produces output only if there is a verification failure. When a file fails verification, the format of the output is a bit cryptic, but it packs all the information you need into one line per file. Here is the format: SM5DLUGT c file Where: *S is the file size. *M is the file's mode. *5 is the MD5 checksum of the file. *D is the file's major and minor numbers. *L is the file's symbolic link contents. *U is owner of the file. *G is the file's group. *T is the modification time of the file. *c appears only if the file is a configuration file. This is handy for quickly identifying config files, as they are very likely to change, and therefore, very unlikely to verify successfully. *file is the file that failed verification. The complete path is listed to make it easy to find. It's unlikely that every file attribute will fail to verify, so each of the eight attribute flags will only appear if there is a problem. Otherwise, a . will be printed in that flag's place. many thanks, just what I was after. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi advice needed (1)
On Fri, 2005-02-04 at 14:10, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Friday 04 February 2005 04:47 pm, Paul wrote: On Fri, 2005-02-04 at 18:27, Aron Smith wrote: On Friday 04 February 2005 08:22 am, Paul wrote: I'm having some problems installing gimp 2 on a 10.2 beta system. Urpmi tells me it is installed when I try to install, urpme tells me its not there when I try to remove. Slocate doesn't find it. I've rebuilt the rpm database (twice), with no effect. did you run (as root) updatedb ? yes, still no joy. Paul, do you use KDE? If so, use the GUI manager for urpmi, and *if* you can find the package in question listed, in either remove or install, look at the file listing in the right plane. You might be able to use that list, to go see if the files are actually there, and delete all of them, then start over trying to install it. Good luck. Thanks, Ronald, using MCC gimp2 shows up in neither add nor remove software searches, even though I can see other programs from the same source (a 10.1 DVD)- which means that that source is recognised. Really confused by this. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] urpmi agony still
Hi everyone, The urpmi source called ftp://ftp.fh-wolfenbuettel.de/pub/os/linux/mandrakelinux/official/updates/10.0/RPMS is still not working. Can someone tell me how I get rid of that resource? I am trying to get gdk-pixbuf2 installed for the GTK2-port of Sylpheed, but wolfenbuettel won't hand it to me: ftp://ftp.fh-wolfenbuettel.de/pub/os/linux/mandrakelinux/official/updates/10.0/RPMS/libgdk-pixbuf2-0.22.0-2.2.100mdk.i586.rpm ...retrieving failed: wget failed: exited with 1 or signal 0 This is getting boring... Thanks for clous! Paul -- We only acknowledge small faults in order to make it appear that we are free from great ones. - La Rouchefoucauld http://www.nlpagan.net/linux.php Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi agony still
On Tuesday 01 February 2005 16:55, Paul wrote: Hi everyone, The urpmi source called ftp://ftp.fh-wolfenbuettel.de/pub/os/linux/mandrakelinux/official /updates/10.0/RPMS is still not working. Can someone tell me how I get rid of that resource? Can't you just remove it in System--Configuration--Packaging-- Software media Manager ? If you don't use a GUI, then (as root) urpmi.removemedia [name]. HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi agony still
On Tue February 1 2005 07:55 am, Paul wrote: In mcc use the software manager (beside updates) to remove update_source, then the next time you run updates you'll need to choose a new mirror. Hi everyone, The urpmi source called ftp://ftp.fh-wolfenbuettel.de/pub/os/linux/mandrakelinux/official/updates/1 0.0/RPMS is still not working. Can someone tell me how I get rid of that resource? I am trying to get gdk-pixbuf2 installed for the GTK2-port of Sylpheed, but wolfenbuettel won't hand it to me: ftp://ftp.fh-wolfenbuettel.de/pub/os/linux/mandrakelinux/official/updates/1 0.0/RPMS/libgdk-pixbuf2-0.22.0-2.2.100mdk.i586.rpm ...retrieving failed: wget failed: exited with 1 or signal 0 This is getting boring... Thanks for clous! Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi agony still
Kaj wrote: If you don't use a GUI, then (as root) urpmi.removemedia [name] Thanks for the pointer, I had already tried this. I just got lost on the [name] part... On Tue February 1 2005 07:55 am, Paul wrote: In mcc use the software manager (beside updates) to remove update_source, then the next time you run updates you'll need to choose a new mirror. That worked! Thank you all, for the help. Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi locked
On Wednesday 26 January 2005 12:07 pm, Paul wrote: On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 14:27, Dave Needham wrote: -- here we go again.can some one help me unlock urpmi datebase as it is locked. su ps -A kill (replace ?s with number of urpmi or whatever) is the long way, can't think of the short way at the moment in console, type top you get a page of whatever is eating the most of your mem or proc power (in top, just type a capital M or P (no need for 'enter') to change the view from what eats the most CPU cycles to what is eating the most memory. once you decide what program you want to kill, hit the 'k' and then type in the proccess number and then hit enter. hit the space bar to refresh the readings and if the program you wanted to kill does not disappear, you may have to try a k then a 9 then your process number, as kill -15 is the default in top. -- linux counter #167806 (http://counter.li.org/) website=http://ed-tharp.kicks-ass.org; Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] urpmi locked
-- here we go again.can some one help me unlock urpmi datebase as it is locked. Many Thanks To All Who Reply Best Wishes Dave Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi locked
On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 14:27, Dave Needham wrote: -- here we go again.can some one help me unlock urpmi datebase as it is locked. su ps -A kill (replace ?s with number of urpmi or whatever) is the long way, can't think of the short way at the moment Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi locked
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 26 Jan 2005 17:07, Paul wrote: On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 14:27, Dave Needham wrote: -- here we go again.can some one help me unlock urpmi datebase as it is locked. su ps -A kill (replace ?s with number of urpmi or whatever) is the long way, can't think of the short way at the moment sigh That's why we created the TWiki - it's a FAQ. killall urpmi urpmi.update urpme rpm urpmi.addmedia rm -f /var/lib/urpmi/.LOCK /var/lib/rpm/RPMLOCK You'll find it in http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/UsingUrpmi (which should be required reading, it has so much useful info) Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB97NxkFAvMr/nNX8RApzxAKCKCQYFIGB+ERgbCtSBKLw4+V4ZzACfQ23F FtKkvJFzUjgvA4RWl8nD0WE= =OeXh -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] urpmi
just out of curiosity when you set up urpmi for updates do i have to check once a wekk or does it do it itself automaticali.ive set it up and works 100% but what next please. dave Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi
On Tuesday 25 January 2005 08:45, Dave Needham wrote: just out of curiosity when you set up urpmi for updates do i have to check once a wekk or does it do it itself automaticali.ive set it up and works 100% but what next please. dave If you are using 10.1 every time you open the Mandrake Update GUI it will refresh the urpmi database. Earlier releases did not auto update. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi and putting disks on HD
do you have the latest version of mandrake, previous ones had cdroot/ /Mandrake/ /base/ /RPMS/ or just cdroot/ /Mandrake/ /RPMS(N)/ the latest ones seem to have cdroot/ /media/ /main/ /media_info or cdroot/ /media/ /contrib/ /media_info i can't say for certain that the new cds are laid out as above, im just going by the directory structure under the i586 tree but i'm guessing you've got older instructions but the newest distro bascule On Sunday 23 Jan 2005 11:45 pm, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: 3. If I don't have a /base or /Mandrake directory, can I configure urpmi to work with the CD copies on my hard drive? -- Rome wasn't burned in a day. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi and putting disks on HD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 24 Jan 2005 15:23, bascule wrote: do you have the latest version of mandrake, previous ones had cdroot/ /Mandrake/ /base/ /RPMS/ or just cdroot/ /Mandrake/ /RPMS(N)/ the latest ones seem to have cdroot/ /media/ /main/ /media_info or cdroot/ /media/ /contrib/ /media_info i can't say for certain that the new cds are laid out as above, im just going by the directory structure under the i586 tree but i'm guessing you've got older instructions but the newest distro bascule It sounds as though the TWiki page needs updating. Fancy having a go at it, Bascule? Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB9S59kFAvMr/nNX8RAvujAKCiE+emvCNjJJP3HywlWVHVy6gzKgCeIfN8 MPPBcfPurulhLJI1wlHOaUw= =/wMh -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi and putting disks on HD
At 10:23 AM 1/24/2005, bascule said something remarkably like (but somehow subtly different from): do you have the latest version of mandrake, previous ones had cdroot/ /Mandrake/ /base/ /RPMS/ or just cdroot/ /Mandrake/ /RPMS(N)/ the latest ones seem to have cdroot/ /media/ /main/ /media_info or cdroot/ /media/ /contrib/ /media_info i can't say for certain that the new cds are laid out as above, im just going by the directory structure under the i586 tree but i'm guessing you've got older instructions but the newest distro bascule I have cdroot/ /media/ /main/ /media_info/ There are other directories than just main, of course, and a few files in the root as well. This is from the 10.1 Official Power Pack that I downloaded as a Mandrake Club member. Thank you, -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux User #333216 A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any invention in human history--with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila. -- Mitch Ratliffe, Technology Review Help fight SPAM. Join CAUCE. http://www.cauce.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Margot wrote: Nooo! I think we'd better transfer any further 'goat' discussion to the OT list... Yup, before you get everybody's goat :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 00:02, Julie Sloan wrote: Paul wrote: Julie Sloan wrote: Tom Brinkman wrote: In the re-install, make a separate /home dir this time ;) Also, IME, one real big /stor dir is better than many. BTW, when you re-install I recommend ReiserFS. And make a separate /boot partition (~50mb's, ext3). Ratio of '/' to '/home' will depend on how much total space you have, but IME, 8gig for '/' and 12gig for /home is plenty ... specially if you set aside storage space. For small Linux 'only' drives (13gig), I believe putting everything one big 'ol '/' partition, with a suitable /swap partition is best use. When you refer to '/' , is that where /mnt is now, and is that where I'd access other partitions from, once I have them? Windows doesn't like being moved - you'll need to backup your data and re-install. sigh baby steps... one at a time... The '/' Tom mentions refers (here) to the partitioning - when you are asked about mount points when you install he suggests (at least) two partitions '/' and '/home'. Under / you will probably see other directories, including /mnt. and /usr and /bin or am I still confused? You can, if you wish, have separate partitions for /usr /bin, or they can both (and others) come under / I have just two partitions for linux /home and /. I have a second, smaller disk with windows on - this also has two partitions (windows data). If you format the 80G into a FAT32 partition, both linux and XP could read and write to it. What about a ReiserFS? Or is that something else, not a type of partition as I thought? ResierFS is a file system, not a partition - like the windows NTFS, FAT32. You can choose which file-system your linux partitions use ReiserFS, Ext3, etc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 23 Jan 2005 15:52, Paul wrote: ResierFS is a file system, not a partition - like the windows NTFS, FAT32. You can choose which file-system your linux partitions use ReiserFS, Ext3, etc To some extent the choice of file system is a personal preference, *except* - do keep /boot, if it is a separate partition, as etx2 or ext3 (which is ext2 with a journal added). Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB865bkFAvMr/nNX8RAnsoAJ0S0j4SQ4MvuGR++dhhcw1pbFZaOACfbTk8 fwR7WcD6wDWvMli2Nbst0FY= =3tGS -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] URPMI
NEED THE URL OF THE URPMI UPDATES PLEASE Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] URPMI
On Sunday 23 January 2005 15:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NEED THE URL OF THE URPMI UPDATES PLEASE Here's is one, for a start : ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/ You didn't mention your Mandrake version, so just scroll down to the one you have. On the other hand, why not choose the easy way : http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/ or http://www.linuxfordummies.org/addmedia/ Then you can select a mirror closer to you, although the Spanish one I mentioned is pretty fast updated. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] URPMI
On January 23, 2005 09:53 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NEED THE URL OF THE URPMI UPDATES PLEASE Ok don't yell at us please :-) http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/ Regards, Dan Gordon -- Sun Jan 23 10:16:18 EST 2005 10:16:18 up 14:37, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.01, 0.01 America is the country where you buy a lifetime supply of aspirin for one dollar, and use it up in two weeks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] URPMI
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:13:56 +0100 Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 23 January 2005 15:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NEED THE URL OF THE URPMI UPDATES PLEASE Be root and create and run this script..works for me..MDK 10.0 official..call it any name you like..BE sure to be on line for it to work.. #!/bin/bash ISCOZA= ESLRACH= CONTACTEL= CONTRIB_SK= UNININET= SUNET= PLF= #** echo; echoadding iscoza ; echo su - -c urpmi.addmedia --update iscoza ftp://ftp.is.co.za/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/10.0/RPMS/ with ../base/synthesis.hdlist.cz if [ $? -ne 0 ] then ISCOZA=failed else ISCOZA=success fi #** echo; echoadding eslrach ; echo su -c urpmi.addmedia --update eslrahc http://www.eslrahc.com/10.0/ with hdlist.cz if [ $? -ne 0 ] then ESLRACH=failed else ESLRACH=success fi #** echo; echoadding contactel ; echo su - -c urpmi.addmedia --update contactel ftp://mandrake.contactel.cz/people/bibri/mandrake/9.2/RPMS/ with synthesis.hdlist.cz if [ $? -ne 0 ] then CONTACTEL=failed else CONTACTEL=success fi #** echo; echoadding contrib-sk ; echo su - -c urpmi.addmedia --update contrib-sk ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrakelinux/official/10.0/contrib/i586 with ../../i586/Mandrake/base/synthesis.hdlist2.cz if [ $? -ne 0 ] then CONTRIB_SK=failed else CONTRIB_SK=success fi *** echo; echoadding uninet ; echo su - -c urpmi.addmedia --update uninet ftp://ftp.uninett.no/linux/Mandrakelinux/stable/updates/10.0/RPMS/ with ../base/synthesis.hdlist.cz if [ $? -ne 0 ] then UNINET=failed else UNINET=success fi #** echo; echoadding sunet ; echo su - -c urpmi.addmedia --update sunet ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrakelinux/official/updates/10.0/RPMS/ with ../base/synthesis.hdlist.cz if [ $? -ne 0 ] then SUNET=failed else SUNET=success fi #** echo; echoadding plf ; echo su - -c urpmi.addmedia plf ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/linux/plf/mandrake/10.0 with synthesis.hdlist.cz if [ $? -ne 0 ] then PLF=failed else PLF=success fi #** echo ; echo echo ISCOZA = $ISCOZA echo ESLRACH= $ESLRACH echo CONTACTEL = $CONTACTEL echo CONTRIB_SK = $CONTRIB_SK echo UNINET = $UNINET echo SUNET = $SUNET echo PLF= $PLF echo ; echo #** exit 0 When the above is successful then run this after creation.. #!/bin/bash ESLRAHC= CONTRIB= JPACKAGE= MAIN= UPDATES= PLF= #** echo; echoupdating synthesis eslrahc ; echo su - -c urpmi.update eslrahc if [ $? -ne 0 ] then ESLRAHC=failed else ESLRAHC=success fi #** echo; echoupdating synthesis contrib ; echo su - -c urpmi.update contrib if [ $? -ne 0 ] then CONTRIB=failed else CONTRIB=success fi #** echo; echoupdating synthesis jpackage ; echo su - -c urpmi.update jpackage if [ $? -ne 0 ] then JPACKAGE=failed else JPACKAGE=success fi #** echo; echoupdating synthesis main ; echo su - -c urpmi.update main if [ $? -ne 0 ] then MAIN=failed else MAIN=success fi #** echo; echoupdating synthesis updates ; echo su - -c urpmi.update updates if [ $? -ne 0 ] then UPDATES=failed else UPDATES=success fi #** echo; echoupdating synthesis plf ; echo su - -c urpmi.update plf if [ $? -ne 0 ] then PLF=failed else PLF=success fi #** echo ; echo echo ESLRAHC = $ESLRAHC echo CONTRIB = $CONTRIB echo JPACKAGE= $JPACKAGE echo MAIN= $MAIN echo UPDATES = $UPDATES echo PLF = $PLF echo ; echo #** exit 0 - When the above is successful then run..this..be prepared for some long time on line if first time... urpmi --auto-select --noclean --wget -a goodluck -- Johan Sch Registered linux user #333034 May this be a good day for learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
On Saturday 22 January 2005 04:38 pm, Julie Sloan wrote: Tom Brinkman wrote: On Saturday 22 January 2005 10:32 am, Julie Sloan wrote: I copied /home to a CD, will reinstall 10.0, and hopefully during the reinstall will set up a storage partition or two. I'm dualbooting WinXP and Mandrake; have the Win on the original harddrive and Mandrake on its own, separate, hd. I can see into windoze from Mandrake but cannot write to it. Actually you seem to have alot'a snap for a newbie. I hope I've learned a little bit in six months?? But a lot of what you say from here on looks like alphabet soup on the first pass :) So I'll read it again, slower... If most of us admitted it, we had to, or thought it wise to re-install linux about a dozen times in our first six months ;) In the re-install, make a separate /home dir this time ;) Also, IME, one real big /stor dir is better than many. Why one real big /stor dir? User needs and preference. I have 4 stor partitions. I often encounter running out of space on one, when there's room on others. Use of dirs (folders) to separate movies, sound, pictures, essential backups, and misc would'a been more efficient on one humongous size drive. Wouldn't it be better to have new downloads (from unknown sources; I don't mean rpms) go to a separate partition to isolate them just in case, and to have certain types of large files, for instance MP3s, default to their own space? Choice of partitions and file systems is a matter of preference and user experience. Basically for partitions, / this is the root directory (not to be confused with 'root' user). It's the top level mount point, that all other directories come under. Even if they are on separate partitions. Everything on Linux is a file, partitions are put on mount points. To illustrate, type 'l /*' in a console and scroll up. Even better, type 'tree /less' (you'll probly need to 'urpmi tree' first) /home it's a good idea to have this on it's own partition, mostly for reasons you've already discovered. It can be a bad idea when a small HDD (13gig) is used for Linux tho. IE, inefficient use of limited disk space. When I first began with linux it was on a 256mb HDD. I used one big 'ol / and a swap file. / is the only absolutely mandatory partition /swap almost imperative, altho a swap file can be used instead (as above). General advice is to make it the same size as installed ram, if that is at least 512mb. For smaller amounts of ram, double the size of the /swap partition, eg ram=128, make swap at least 256. So for ram=256, /swap should be 512. MOF, IMO, 512 is about the minimum. It's what I have now, an next install I'm gonna double it. For laptops that suspend to ram, /swap should always be at least 30% more than installed ram, if not double. /boot while this preference is outdated, IMO it's still a good idea to put /boot on a separate partition. Use of ext3 is an added precaution when other partitions use a journalled filesystem. IIRC, it's still mandatory for XFS. Further separate partitioning is mostly for production servers and for their unique security concerns. When attempted by newbies it can cause files that are needed to boot, to not be available during init. Sort'a fatal ; File systems; Journalled is the way to go. Your choice but I've never had any problems with ReiserFS. Till now ... 2.6.10 kernels, and maybe newer ones have some issues with reiser, particularly on sata HDD's. I expect it to be cleared up tho. If this concerns you, use ext3. It's nothin but the old reliable ext2 Linux has used forever, with journalling capability tacked on. It's sort'a slow and clumsy tho. As to 'see' into Win$ux, that why I left it at 'complicated'. M$ ntfs FS's (and there are several versions), can be read by Linux, but write support is (intentionally by M$) dangerous and not supported. I'm not even sure if a tarball stored on ntfs can be transferred to Linux. Yes it can - is how I got a modem driver when linux wasn't recognizing my conexant last summer. D/L'ed it into WinXP then cp'd it into Mandrake. BTW, when you re-install I recommend ReiserFS. And make a separate /boot partition (~50mb's, ext3). Ratio of '/' to '/home' will depend on how much total space you have, but IME, 8gig for '/' and 12gig for /home is plenty ... specially if you set aside storage space. For small Linux 'only' drives (13gig), I believe putting everything one big 'ol '/' partition, with a suitable /swap partition is best use. Thanks for the suggestions. I have 200G total on two drives, but 80 of that has Win$ux spread all over it. If I make a, say, 20G partition on the 120G drive, (where my crippled Mandrake 10.0 is now) then move (?) the 4G of WinXP OS into it, could I reformat that 80G into storage space? The thought of it is pretty daunting; I am very new to this and know
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 16:32, Julie Sloan wrote: Stephen Kühn wrote: Julie Sloan lied: [sorry - anything further I'll post to the OT list] Down the mighty Mississip, into the Gulf, through the Panama Canal, head directly SSW and don't stop till you smack into Windang Island. Else, ship the goats to Knott County, KY and a mate of mine will git'em ready and ship'em over. Huh? I could WALK 'em to Knott county from here. J If you live THAT close to Knott County, then maybe we can arrange for Ronald Hall to come and fix ya up. He lives down yonder towards the bad side of the county border. -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free :: Crashing is NOT an option. Registered Linux User # 267497 --- Tehee quod she, and clapte the wyndow to. -- Geoffrey Chaucer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] urpmi and putting disks on HD
I looked at the urpmi page in the TWiki, and saw that it should be possible to copy the install disks to my hard drive and make urpmi look there instead of asking for the CDs. But I cannot follow the directions as written. 1. The directions state that I should copy the /base and /Mandrake directories from CD1. But I do not see either of these directories on any of my CDs. I have the 6 CD set as a Mandrake club member. 2. I did copy, I think, the 6 CDs to my hard drive. I say I think because while the first one took a while to copy, the others went very quickly, which makes me think that something may not be right. I looked inside each directory, and saw that RPMs are listed as being there, but I don't see how a whole CD can be copied in like 10 seconds. 3. If I don't have a /base or /Mandrake directory, can I configure urpmi to work with the CD copies on my hard drive? Thank you, -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux User #333216 I think we consider too much the good luck of the early bird, and not enough the bad luck of the early worm. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt Help fight SPAM. Join CAUCE. http://www.cauce.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Julie Sloan wrote: BTW I've located my mailboxes - all with weird names but oh well, I can get the data out of them now - - but where is my KMail addresbook? All I've found so far is recently used addresses, which is nicely more than I had a few hours ago but still not the entire mailing list, not to mention the individual information I had stashed on each card. Julie, I suggest you start new threads for each new problem you encounter - I can't help with Kmail addressbook as I've never used Kmail, and I don't even use KDE - but if you start a thread marked lost Kmail addressbook I'm sure that someone here will be able to help you find it. -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-20mdk ~~~ The two most common things in the Universe are hydrogen and stupidity. -- Harlan Ellison ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 22 Jan 2005 04:35, Julie Sloan wrote: There should be a text file with that info in your ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/addressbook or something like that I don't use kmail. Open it in a terminal and you should have your info. thank you Mike, but no, no addrbook in that directory, or any nearby. Found all my mail in ~/.Mail, and recently used addresses somewhere...?but no main addressbook. The folder is called kabc and the file is probably std.vcf Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB8hwgkFAvMr/nNX8RAhR+AJkBVjcVury41tOZhRknHzUpxE1FFACaAnye gxgVnaKbTyYdmzLU8/Orxtk= =+5Ed -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Anne Wilson wrote: The folder is called kabc and the file is probably std.vcf Anne Julie; Margot asked me to drop in and lend a hand if possible. I've had a quick look at the thread in order to catch up. If I understand things clearly, you were trying to do a 10.0 update, but accidentally did an update using 10.1 sources and now several things are broken. If you're trying to salvage your address book, then Anne is 100% right about the name of the folder and the file (I just finished migrating a corporate client (170 users) over to mozilla-thunderbird a few days ago). Before going any further, I strongly advise that you copy that std.vcf file to a floppy diskette or storage partition on your system. If, in the meantime, you have managed to install rpmdrake, you should be able to call it from a terminal. I wasn't able to see if you have lost your desktop or not, and whether or not you still have other desktops installed. In the meantime, you might want to seriously consider Stephen's advice since you'll never know for sure whether your system will be stable now or not, and if it starts acting up, you also won't know if it's due to this or something else, making any possible fixes very hard to implement. If you have an extra hard drive which can be connected to this computer, or if there's a partition on this system which can be used for storage, try copying your important data there until the system is re-installed. Don't forget to save your .Mail folder as well as your std.vcf file, documents and any other media or data you'd like to save. If you need help setting up a second hard drive on this PC, just holler back to the list or to me off-list. In that case, any relevant info concerning your hard drive(s), the partitions and their sizes and names (a.k.a. mount-points), would be very helpful. As far as the urpmi sources are concerned, try starting with main, updates, plf and contrib sources, skipping the jpackage source for the time being. Hope that helps. I'll be around all day if you need help and it looks like you and I are in the same timezone (Eastern), so that should make it a bit easier. -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 22 Jan 2005 12:41, Lanman wrote: Don't forget to save your .Mail folder as well as your std.vcf file, documents and any other media or data you'd like to save. If you need help setting up a second hard drive on this PC, just holler back to the list or to me off-list. In that case, any relevant info concerning your hard drive(s), the partitions and their sizes and names (a.k.a. mount-points), would be very helpful. Just a small addition - if you have mail from an older release (and I think that includes 10.0) you may have both a Mail folder and a .Mail folder. Mail used to be stored in Mail, but for some reason Mandrake's packagers decided to change that to .Mail. If that's so and you have any mail since the 10.1 debacle, you will probably need to save both of them. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB8kt/kFAvMr/nNX8RAvqXAJ4jKjt/ZWl87N40SXRfFfjPBbVbiwCfd7A0 LJQRNAIXLpVKZv/A66Qd5K8= =33ii -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Anne Wilson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 22 Jan 2005 12:41, Lanman wrote: Don't forget to save your .Mail folder as well as your std.vcf file, documents and any other media or data you'd like to save. If you need help setting up a second hard drive on this PC, just holler back to the list or to me off-list. In that case, any relevant info concerning your hard drive(s), the partitions and their sizes and names (a.k.a. mount-points), would be very helpful. Just a small addition - if you have mail from an older release (and I think that includes 10.0) you may have both a Mail folder and a .Mail folder. Mail used to be stored in Mail, but for some reason Mandrake's packagers decided to change that to .Mail. If that's so and you have any mail since the 10.1 debacle, you will probably need to save both of them. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Yeah! What she said! Grin! -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
On Friday 21 January 2005 04:13 pm, Julie Sloan wrote: What is your choice? (1-4) 4 To satisfy dependencies, the following 556 packages are going to be installed (1088 MB): I am on dialup. 22Mb takes an hour and a half. Do I need 1088 additional Mb?? It's not 1088 'additional' mb. MOF, it's not even 1088 mb's. 1088 is the installed diskspace required, but since you're updating (replacing) packages, the the difference in disk space used is minimal. Also, 1088 represents the uncompressed size of the packages. Since the rpm's are compressed, your d/l would be roughly 40% of 1088, or 400 to 450 mb's. That's still way too much for dialup. I suggest you, beg borrow, or steal some 10.1 CD's, or re-install 10.0, saving /home if you can. If /home's not on a separate partition now, and you have enough diskspace on a storage partition, just copy your entire /home directory to that partition. Then copy it back in after a re-install of 10.0, overwriting the install /home. This probly isn't practically feasible if your storage area is any type of Windoze file system. It's possible, but much more complicated. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Stephen Kühn wrote: On Sat, 2005-01-22 at 15:38, Julie Sloan wrote: when I run rpmdrake I get this: generous snip IF it were me, at this stage, I would backup what I could, and format the HD and start fresh. I came to the same conclusion after sleeping on it. Thankfully K3b still works! thanks, Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 22 Jan 2005 04:35, Julie Sloan wrote: There should be a text file with that info in your ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/addressbook or something like that I don't use kmail. Open it in a terminal and you should have your info. thank you Mike, but no, no addrbook in that directory, or any nearby. Found all my mail in ~/.Mail, and recently used addresses somewhere...?but no main addressbook. The folder is called kabc and the file is probably std.vcf Anne Hi Anne, ~/.kde/share/apps/kabc That's it; thank you!!! Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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Margot wrote: Julie, I suggest you start new threads for each new problem you encounter - I can't help with Kmail addressbook as I've never used Kmail, and I don't even use KDE - but if you start a thread marked lost Kmail addressbook I'm sure that someone here will be able to help you find it. LOL it seems almost too late to do that now, but I will definitely keep this in mind in the future. thanks Margot, Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Lanman wrote: Julie; Margot asked me to drop in and lend a hand if possible. I've had a quick look at the thread in order to catch up. If I understand things clearly, you were trying to do a 10.0 update, but accidentally did an update using 10.1 sources and now several things are broken. Hi Lanman; yes, that's it in a nutshell. If you're trying to salvage your address book, then Anne is 100% right got it, salvaged it :) In the meantime, you might want to seriously consider Stephen's advice Gonna start from scratch. I've burned just about all of ~/ onto a CD and should probably wait a day before I reinstall, to see if I think of anything else I need to save, besides the mailboxes and addressbooks... As far as the urpmi sources are concerned, try starting with main, updates, plf and contrib sources, skipping the jpackage source for the time being. ok Hope that helps. I'll be around all day if you need help and it looks like you and I are in the same timezone (Eastern), so that should make it a bit easier. it does; thanks a lot. Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 22 Jan 2005 12:41, Lanman wrote: Don't forget to save your .Mail folder as well as your std.vcf file, documents and any other media or data you'd like to save. If you need help setting up a second hard drive on this PC, just holler back to the list or to me off-list. In that case, any relevant info concerning your hard drive(s), the partitions and their sizes and names (a.k.a. mount-points), would be very helpful. Just a small addition - if you have mail from an older release (and I think that includes 10.0) you may have both a Mail folder and a .Mail folder. Mail used to be stored in Mail, but for some reason Mandrake's packagers decided to change that to .Mail. If that's so and you have any mail since the 10.1 debacle, you will probably need to save both of them. Anne No, since the debacle I've been using MozillaMail. I have a little stored in XimianEvolution I'd like to back up also, and oops, guess I ought to be leaving messages on the server now... thanks, Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Tom Brinkman wrote: On Friday 21 January 2005 04:13 pm, Julie Sloan wrote: To satisfy dependencies, the following 556 packages are going to be installed (1088 MB): I am on dialup. 22Mb takes an hour and a half. Do I need 1088 additional Mb?? It's not 1088 'additional' mb. MOF, it's not even 1088 mb's. 1088 is the installed diskspace required, but since you're updating (replacing) packages, the the difference in disk space used is minimal. Also, 1088 represents the uncompressed size of the packages. Since the rpm's are compressed, your d/l would be roughly 40% of 1088, or 400 to 450 mb's. Aha, okay. My patient partner sat by while I tied up the phone line for about 90Mb yesterday That's still way too much for dialup. Yes it is. :) If /home's not on a separate partition now, and you have enough diskspace on a storage partition, just copy your entire /home directory to that partition. Then copy it back in after a re-install of 10.0, overwriting the install /home. This probly isn't practically feasible if your storage area is any type of Windoze file system. It's possible, but much more complicated. I copied /home to a CD, will reinstall 10.0, and hopefully during the reinstall will set up a storage partition or two. I'm dualbooting WinXP and Mandrake; have the Win on the original harddrive and Mandrake on its own, separate, hd. I can see into windoze from Mandrake but cannot write to it. thanks, Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Julie Sloan wrote: I came to the same conclusion after sleeping on it. Thankfully K3b still works! Ouch! You slept on your hard drive? Didn't that hurt? Grin! thanks, Julie -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 22 Jan 2005 16:31, Julie Sloan wrote:consider Stephen's advice Gonna start from scratch. I've burned just about all of ~/ onto a CD and should probably wait a day before I reinstall, to see if I think of anything else I need to save, besides the mailboxes and addressbooks... I think you've made the right decision g Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB8o7hkFAvMr/nNX8RAhDVAJ9XOqFPcjU5we64um3Jd8iYSsh6kwCeOKzt +4IpZyvOighLXgjKJMfblfY= =k0ac -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 22 Jan 2005 16:32, Julie Sloan wrote: I copied /home to a CD, will reinstall 10.0, and hopefully during the reinstall will set up a storage partition or two. I'm dualbooting WinXP and Mandrake; have the Win on the original harddrive and Mandrake on its own, separate, hd. I can see into windoze from Mandrake but cannot write to it. Writing to an ntfs partition is still not 100% safe, so better not attempted. Instead, make a fat32 partition big enough to hold any data that you might want to share between apps. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB8o9nkFAvMr/nNX8RAiGrAJsFVU8WmPa2SZiHBIGZ1cCDidAgPwCgmFS5 wpTpokJxuTxFGbEjs1/b2QU= =7zpi -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Anne Wilson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 22 Jan 2005 16:31, Julie Sloan wrote:consider Stephen's advice Gonna start from scratch. I've burned just about all of ~/ onto a CD and should probably wait a day before I reinstall, to see if I think of anything else I need to save, besides the mailboxes and addressbooks... I think you've made the right decision g Anne Well, this way I may tear out less of my hair ;) thanks, Julie -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 06:35, Julie Sloan wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 22 Jan 2005 16:31, Julie Sloan wrote:consider Stephen's advice Gonna start from scratch. I've burned just about all of ~/ onto a CD and should probably wait a day before I reinstall, to see if I think of anything else I need to save, besides the mailboxes and addressbooks... I think you've made the right decision g Anne Well, this way I may tear out less of my hair ;) thanks, Julie Linux causes you to tear out hair? Are you sure you're not confusing linux with men? Men causing you to tear your hair out I can fully understand, but linux? Nah. Easier to control. Much more so than men. Ask Margot. -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free :: Crashing is NOT an option. Registered Linux User # 267497 --- You will have domestic happiness and faithful friends. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Well, after sleeping on the harddrive I am confusing the two ;) Stephen Kühn wrote: Linux causes you to tear out hair? Are you sure you're not confusing linux with men? Men causing you to tear your hair out I can fully understand, but linux? Nah. Easier to control. Much more so than men. Ask Margot. -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 07:38, Julie Sloan wrote: Well, after sleeping on the harddrive I am confusing the two ;) Stephen Kühn wrote: Linux causes you to tear out hair? Are you sure you're not confusing linux with men? Men causing you to tear your hair out I can fully understand, but linux? Nah. Easier to control. Much more so than men. Ask Margot. Difference between a hard drive and a man: * Hard drives retain data (memory) and only forget when you format them. Men, on the other hand, do not retain data (memory) at their discretion and whimsy, and will always remember things at the worst possible moment. * Hard drives do not talk back to you or argue * Hard drives do not watch sports and drink beer. * Hard drives turn on when you want them turned on. Men turn on at the worst possible moments. * Hard drives do not snore. * Hard drives do not purchase expensive sports cars * Hard drives do not chase younger women when they reach the middle of their life spans * Hard drives are easily maintained. Men require far too much maintenance. -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free :: Crashing is NOT an option. Registered Linux User # 267497 --- Am I accompanied by a PARENT or GUARDIAN? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
