Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 06:38:48 -0500 lanman wrote: Dan; Glad to hear that it worked out. I'm surprised that you never saw the bios data check successful line before. It's always there when the kernel is being decompressed. Linux checks the BIOS for hardware changes, BIOS updates, and to confirm that there really IS a BIOS! Grin! This happens right before kernel starts, which is why i noticed it. I just finished another KDE 3.2-loaded system for a client ( that makes 53 so far! ), and noticed something I had forgotten to mention in previous posts. If a ML9.2 stock-installed PC already has K3B installed, you get a conflict Hairball during an upgrade to KDE3.2. I have herd of others having this problem but it seems to not affected me. Removing K3B solves this issue, but of course it can't be re-installed after the fact. That may not actually be such a bad thing, though. I've never really liked it very much, as i find it to be far too complicated to set up. I'm still enjoying CDBakeoven too much I guess! I left both K3B and cdbakeoven installed and they are still there and seem to work ok. I noticed however, that CDBakeoven now has a 2.0 Beta version which tends to use a setup system similar to K3B, and adds the same level of complexity to that setup. Sigh! Just when they had it nailed, too! I have installed bashburn and like it very much, I think its what I will use for a while. There's also a warning regarding kde-i18n-en_GB RPM for KDE 3.2, where the warning tells you about a bad signature, but it can be ignored. 53 installs can't be wrong! Im so used to seeing that warning that i don't pay too much attention to it any more lol. Using the software installation tool in MCC really makes the job easier, since you can install packages 4 or 5 at a time if you preferand that way anyone can gradually walk themselves through the upgrade without too many concerns. I used mcc for the install and it worked well for me. Let me know if you run into any hassles. At the very least, it will help to add content to my Twiki document. I will keep an eye on boot messages and let you know if I see any more warnings or FAILED messages. Regards, Dan Gordon -- Mon Feb 16 08:29:17 EST 2004 08:29:17 up 9:24, 1 user, load average: 0.19, 0.18, 0.08 ___ ( Mystics always hope that science will ) ( some day overtake them. -- Booth ) ( Tarkington) --- o ^__^ o (OO)\___ (__)\ )\/\ ||w | || || Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
Okay, here is what I did: Downloaded all of the rpms from your sight, put them all in a kde32 folder. Added that folder to my urpmi.cfg with urpmi.addmedia KDE32 file://home/dale/kde32/ with hdlist.cz, that went fine. Went into the graphical software install program, I was in Gnome when I did this, and the the kde32 entry was there, selected everything and tons of dependency conflicts appeared... Do not know what I am doing wrong... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lanman Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 10:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms On February 14, 2004 09:54 am, Dale Kosan wrote: No joy, tons of warnings about conflicts. This come from a stock 9.2 install. Could it maybe be my choice of mirrors and contrib.? Could you send me your urpmi.cfg file? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lanman Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 7:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms On February 13, 2004 07:06 pm, Dale Kosan wrote: How did you add it to urpmi? Dale; You're best bet is to download the whole folder from my server as i have to shut it down on Saturday. Once you have it on your PC, then use the following command which assumes that your KDE32 folder is in /home/dale urpmi.addmedia KDE32 file://home/dale/kde32/ with hdlist.cz Just copy and paste that line into a root user's shell or console. Modify the path if you store the KDE32 folder somewhere else. Lanman OK, let's do this by the numbers. 1) Download the KDE32 rpms to your PC before i have to shut the FTP server down - it goes down in 2 hours. 2) Make a note of where you saved the KDE32 directory and let me know where you have placed it. 3) We'll move ahead after you get back to me. Lanman -- Registered Linux user #190712 Smart IT people are staring out the window into the eye of a giant penguin! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
On February 15, 2004 06:09 am, Dale Kosan wrote: Okay, here is what I did: Downloaded all of the rpms from your sight, put them all in a kde32 folder. Added that folder to my urpmi.cfg with urpmi.addmedia KDE32 file://home/dale/kde32/ with hdlist.cz, that went fine. Went into the graphical software install program, I was in Gnome when I did this, and the the kde32 entry was there, selected everything and tons of dependency conflicts appeared... Do not know what I am doing wrong... Dale; You're problem was selecting everything in the list, and maybe that was my fault. When I mentioned selecting everything in the list, I was talking about the TexStar RPM's for Mozilla, and not KDE32. The person who originally did up these packages, did a bunch of packages that the average user would never consider installing. Also, some of the conventional packages can't be installed if other conflicting ones are selected. In addition to this, there seems to be 2 types of packages that you can go with. Confusing or what ??? When certain ones are selected, a window pops up asking which of 2 OTHER packages you'd like to use, and so on and so on. I'm going to have to make a list of the ones that I managed to successfully install and post them back here on the list. I guess that this person - I don't have a clue to what his name is - decided that he couldn't arbitrarially choose which apps and packages to rebuild, so he rebuilt them all, including the SDK's and Development packages which many people would never think of installing. Check back here later to day and I'll try to have a list ready for ya. Lanman -- Registered Linux user #190712 Smart IT people are staring out the window into the eye of a giant penguin! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
Presumably you are using mdk 9.2 as well. You may have to run down each of the dependencies and grab the correct rpm from a directory of all mdk9.2 rpms (your install media or a download mirror). AFAIK urpmi only handles dependencies for rpms in the urpmi directory. In my experience all the dependencies could be solved by existing 9.2 / 9.2 update rpms... but you might have upgraded 9.2 packages to something outside mdk or from cooker. cd to the kde32 directory post the output of rpm -Uvh *.rpm --test. This should list your path to dependency hell (append rpm.txt w/o quotes and you'll dump the output to a text file). Paul On Sunday 15 February 2004 11:09 am, Dale Kosan wrote: Okay, here is what I did: Downloaded all of the rpms from your sight, put them all in a kde32 folder. Added that folder to my urpmi.cfg with urpmi.addmedia KDE32 file://home/dale/kde32/ with hdlist.cz, that went fine. Went into the graphical software install program, I was in Gnome when I did this, and the the kde32 entry was there, selected everything and tons of dependency conflicts appeared... Do not know what I am doing wrong... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lanman Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 10:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms On February 14, 2004 09:54 am, Dale Kosan wrote: No joy, tons of warnings about conflicts. This come from a stock 9.2 install. Could it maybe be my choice of mirrors and contrib.? Could you send me your urpmi.cfg file? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lanman Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 7:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms On February 13, 2004 07:06 pm, Dale Kosan wrote: How did you add it to urpmi? Dale; You're best bet is to download the whole folder from my server as i have to shut it down on Saturday. Once you have it on your PC, then use the following command which assumes that your KDE32 folder is in /home/dale urpmi.addmedia KDE32 file://home/dale/kde32/ with hdlist.cz Just copy and paste that line into a root user's shell or console. Modify the path if you store the KDE32 folder somewhere else. Lanman OK, let's do this by the numbers. 1) Download the KDE32 rpms to your PC before i have to shut the FTP server down - it goes down in 2 hours. 2) Make a note of where you saved the KDE32 directory and let me know where you have placed it. 3) We'll move ahead after you get back to me. Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 12:36:16 -0500 Dan Gordon wrote: Thanks lanman that got me going, everything works well. I do have two problems. Kdm is not behaving, no matter what wm i select i end up with icewm. If i select default i get kde 3.2. Does anyone know if there are some config files i should look at? kdmrc seems to look the same as the last time i looked at it. Maybe ive not installed somthing needed? The other problem I will worry about later. What I have done for now is installed Xtart and then boot into run level 3, till I can find a solution. Regards, Dan Gordon -- Sun Feb 15 18:35:02 EST 2004 18:35:02 up 1 day, 9:25, 1 user, load average: 0.12, 0.07, 0.01 ( The profession of book writing makes ) ( horse racing seem like a solid, stable ) ( business. -- John Steinbeck [Horse ) ( racing lunar-1.3.3.iso.bz2 a stable) ( business ...] ) o ^__^ o (OO)\___ (__)\ )\/\ ||w | || || Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
On February 15, 2004 06:37 pm, Dan Gordon wrote: On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 12:36:16 -0500 Dan Gordon wrote: Thanks lanman that got me going, everything works well. I do have two problems. Kdm is not behaving, no matter what wm i select i end up with icewm. If i select default i get kde 3.2. Does anyone know if there are some config files i should look at? kdmrc seems to look the same as the last time i looked at it. Maybe ive not installed somthing needed? The other problem I will worry about later. What I have done for now is installed Xtart and then boot into run level 3, till I can find a solution. Regards, Dan Gordon Yo! Dan ! I'm fairly sure that if you un-install KDE 3.2 and re-install KDE 3.1 along with the MDKKDM rpm, you'll be able to log into KDE straight away in the normal fashion. Afterwards you can follow the instructions I put into a previous email to walk you through the Do's and Don'ts of installing KDE 3.2. If you can't find the old email ( sent to the list early this morning ), let me know and I'll re-send it. I'm hoping I can get something onto the Twiki site soon, but I'm still learning how to do add things there. Lanman -- Registered Linux user #190712 Smart IT people are staring out the window into the eye of a giant penguin! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:02:07 -0500 lanman wrote: Yo! Dan ! I'm fairly sure that if you un-install KDE 3.2 and re-install KDE 3.1 along with the MDKKDM rpm, you'll be able to log into KDE straight away in the normal fashion. I did install 3.2 on top of 3.1 the second time round. I have just installed MDKKDM, it worked right off but, on boot up im getting interface eth0 failed and system loger failed now i know that eth0 is up as i can ping browse and so on, system loger im not sure how to check on. When I go back to run level 3 I dont get those errors. Afterwards you can follow the instructions I put into a previous email to walk you through the Do's and Don'ts of installing KDE 3.2. If you can't find the old email ( sent to the list early this morning ), let me know and I'll re-send it. I have those emails thanks and that was perty much how i installed 3.2 :-) I'm hoping I can get something onto the Twiki site soon, but I'm still learning how to do add things there. Looking forward to that lanman, I guess I will have to learn to do that sooner or later too :-) Regards, Dan Gordon -- Sun Feb 15 22:17:31 EST 2004 22:17:31 up 2:48, 1 user, load average: 0.26, 0.14, 0.10 ___ ( I have learned silence from the ) ( talkative, toleration from the) ( intolerant, and kindness from the ) ( unkind. -- Kahlil Gibran ) --- o ^__^ o (OO)\___ (__)\ )\/\ ||w | || || Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 22:27:48 -0500 Dan Gordon wrote: I did install 3.2 on top of 3.1 the second time round. I have just installed MDKKDM, it worked right off but, on boot up im getting interface eth0 failed and system loger failed now i know that eth0 is up as i can ping browse and so on, system loger im not sure how to check on. When I go back to run level 3 I dont get those errors. I have those emails thanks and that was perty much how i installed 3.2 :-) Looking forward to that lanman, I guess I will have to learn to do that sooner or later too :-) More testing to come soon, I will try going back into kdm and xdm and see if i still get those errors. Will let you know my findings. Regards, Dan Gordon -- Sun Feb 15 22:40:12 EST 2004 22:40:12 up 3:11, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.04 _ ( A wise man can see more from the bottom ) ( of a well than a fool can from a) ( mountain top. ) - o ^__^ o (OO)\___ (__)\ )\/\ ||w | || || Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 22:42:44 -0500 Dan Gordon wrote: More testing to come soon, I will try going back into kdm and xdm and see if i still get those errors. Will let you know my findings. Ok after changing from MDKKDM to KDM then to XDM and back to MDKKDM all seems to be fine now ??? Im not understanding why but its working, if there are any more problems I will let you know. One thing I have noticed is that during boot up in MDKKDM I am seeing this message. bios data check sucsefull I have never seen this before. Thanks for all your help, will keep you informed. Regards, Dan Gordon -- Sun Feb 15 23:08:37 EST 2004 23:08:37 up 3 min, 1 user, load average: 0.32, 0.36, 0.16 _ ( May's Law: The quality of correlation ) ( is inversly proportional to the density ) ( of control. (The fewer the data points, ) ( the smoother the curves.) ) - o ^__^ o (OO)\___ (__)\ )\/\ ||w | || || Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
No joy, tons of warnings about conflicts. This come from a stock 9.2 install. Could it maybe be my choice of mirrors and contrib.? Could you send me your urpmi.cfg file? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lanman Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 7:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms On February 13, 2004 07:06 pm, Dale Kosan wrote: How did you add it to urpmi? Dale; You're best bet is to download the whole folder from my server as i have to shut it down on Saturday. Once you have it on your PC, then use the following command which assumes that your KDE32 folder is in /home/dale urpmi.addmedia KDE32 file://home/dale/kde32/ with hdlist.cz Just copy and paste that line into a root user's shell or console. Modify the path if you store the KDE32 folder somewhere else. Lanman -- Registered Linux user #190712 Smart IT people are staring out the window into the eye of a giant penguin! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
On February 14, 2004 09:54 am, Dale Kosan wrote: No joy, tons of warnings about conflicts. This come from a stock 9.2 install. Could it maybe be my choice of mirrors and contrib.? Could you send me your urpmi.cfg file? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lanman Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 7:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms On February 13, 2004 07:06 pm, Dale Kosan wrote: How did you add it to urpmi? Dale; You're best bet is to download the whole folder from my server as i have to shut it down on Saturday. Once you have it on your PC, then use the following command which assumes that your KDE32 folder is in /home/dale urpmi.addmedia KDE32 file://home/dale/kde32/ with hdlist.cz Just copy and paste that line into a root user's shell or console. Modify the path if you store the KDE32 folder somewhere else. Lanman OK, let's do this by the numbers. 1) Download the KDE32 rpms to your PC before i have to shut the FTP server down - it goes down in 2 hours. 2) Make a note of where you saved the KDE32 directory and let me know where you have placed it. 3) We'll move ahead after you get back to me. Lanman -- Registered Linux user #190712 Smart IT people are staring out the window into the eye of a giant penguin! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
So, has anyone been able to get it to work right? What steps did you use to do it? Thanks in advance Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
1. downloaded all the 9.2 rpms to a directory (including libs and qt3.2) 2. separated out those that I didn't want to install to a subdirectory 3. cd to the directory with the rpms you want to install 4. tested the remaining rpms with rpm -Uvh *.rpm --test 5. resolved the dependencies (some were in the excluded directory, some I had to track down on rpmseek.com or rpmfind.net) by adding the appropriate rpms to the directory and retesting. 6. installed with rpm -Uvh *.rpm 7. renamed original ~/.kde directory from 3.1 installation 8. restarted kde (I boot to runlevel three so I start with startx rather than using a display manager so I can't help with that piece) This isn't as elegant as with urpmi, but in only took about 15 minutes (with a fast internet connection to deal with #5), but I've had no problems since installation. On Thursday 12 February 2004 11:09 am, Dale Kosan wrote: So, has anyone been able to get it to work right? What steps did you use to do it? Thanks in advance Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
On February 12, 2004 06:09 am, Dale Kosan wrote: So, has anyone been able to get it to work right? What steps did you use to do it? Thanks in advance First, I'd like to apoligise to anyone who took my advice when installing KDE 3.2. I made a serious Boo-Boo when i said that you could un-install your old KDE 3.1 and install 3.2 instead. I've just spent the last 4 hours fixing my own silly mistake, and now I know better! Don't un-install KDE 3.1 !! Just install KDE 3.2 using Mandrake Control CenterSoftware ManagementSoftware Installer. One thing to remember though, is that you should be running MCC from a different desktop than KDE when you do this!!! I logged into GNome to do mine and had no problems, but staying in the KDE environment while you're trying to upgrade KDE is probably a bad idea. Make sure that you've added your RPM source location to URPMI, and once you're in the Software Installer, go to the All Packages, By Group, and change it to All Packages, By Medium Repository. Once the list is displayed, you should see your location for KDE 3.2. Open it up and start selecting the packages you want to install, and install them. That should work flawlessly, unless you try to force something that shouldn't be installed. As soon as that's done, run MenuDrake to refresh your KDE desktop menu listing. I'm now running KDE 3.2 and it's running perfectly. One interesting thing to mention is that these RPM's were recompiled by someone ( VoidStar ?) who intended them for Mandrake 9.2, but they seem to install on Mandrake 10.0 Beta 2 flawlessly as well, but here I did them as an UPDATE ! For some reason, Mandrake 10.0 Beta2 sees these packages as being newer that the ones it already has ! Grin! Secondly, My ISP called me to let me know that I'm getting close to my monthly limit, so I'm going to ask that anyone who has my FTP server as an URPMI source to actually download the entire folder, instead of connecting when needed. That way you can maintain your own set of packages for KDE 3.2 . I'll be leaving it available for the next 48 hours, and taking it down on Saturday afternoon, so please grab the files a.s.a.p. . Over 60 people have logged in to grab the files, and I'm already over half of my monthly limit. One final note - I've added a copy of CDBakeoven for those who would like to give it a try. Only the one package is required as long as you've installed the background software already - cdrecord, cdrdao, etc. from your CD's, and I've also added a TexStar folder which contains all the packages to install Mozilla with Java, Flash and RealPlayer, as well as their respective plugins. You'll have to un-install the Mozilla, Epiphany and libnss packages that you already have, but once you have the folder, just browse to the folder and run urpmi *rpm and it will install everything by itself. If it complains about bad or missing signatures, just ignore and continue the install. These are original, untouched packages from TexStar, and unless you already have his SIG file installed, you'll see the signature warning. Keep in mind that this will install Mozilla 1.4,so you're actually going to downgrade your Mozilla browser, but all the plugins work, and the hassles of dependancies shouldn't happen. Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 07:24:45 -0500 lanman wrote: That should work flawlessly, unless you try to force something that shouldn't be installed. As soon as that's done, run MenuDrake to refresh your KDE desktop menu listing. I'm now running KDE 3.2 and it's running perfectly. Thanks lanman that got me going, everything works well. I do have two problems. Kdm is not behaving, no matter what wm i select i end up with icewm. If i select default i get kde 3.2. Does anyone know if there are some config files i should look at? kdmrc seems to look the same as the last time i looked at it. Maybe ive not installed somthing needed? The other problem I will worry about later. Regards, Dan Gordon -- Thu Feb 12 12:29:17 EST 2004 12:29:17 up 37 min, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.04, 0.08 _ ( The fortune program is supported, in) ( part, by user contributions and by a) ( major grant from the National Endowment ) ( for the Inanities. ) - o ^__^ o (OO)\___ (__)\ )\/\ ||w | || || Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
Dan Gordon wrote: On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 07:24:45 -0500 lanman wrote: That should work flawlessly, unless you try to force something that shouldn't be installed. As soon as that's done, run MenuDrake to refresh your KDE desktop menu listing. I'm now running KDE 3.2 and it's running perfectly. Thanks lanman that got me going, everything works well. I do have two problems. Kdm is not behaving, no matter what wm i select i end up with icewm. If i select default i get kde 3.2. Does anyone know if there are some config files i should look at? kdmrc seems to look the same as the last time i looked at it. Maybe ive not installed somthing needed? The other problem I will worry about later. I had similar misbehaviour with kdm, which would let me boot into KDE as root but not user. Switching to mdkdm solved the problem. Sir Robin -- Telling disgruntled employees that they are always free to leave their jobs seems no different in principle from telling political dissidents that they are free to emigrate. - Stephen Newman Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
How did you add it to urpmi? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Gordon Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 12:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 07:24:45 -0500 lanman wrote: That should work flawlessly, unless you try to force something that shouldn't be installed. As soon as that's done, run MenuDrake to refresh your KDE desktop menu listing. I'm now running KDE 3.2 and it's running perfectly. Thanks lanman that got me going, everything works well. I do have two problems. Kdm is not behaving, no matter what wm i select i end up with icewm. If i select default i get kde 3.2. Does anyone know if there are some config files i should look at? kdmrc seems to look the same as the last time i looked at it. Maybe ive not installed somthing needed? The other problem I will worry about later. Regards, Dan Gordon -- Thu Feb 12 12:29:17 EST 2004 12:29:17 up 37 min, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.04, 0.08 _ ( The fortune program is supported, in) ( part, by user contributions and by a) ( major grant from the National Endowment ) ( for the Inanities. ) - o ^__^ o (OO)\___ (__)\ )\/\ ||w | || || Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
On February 13, 2004 07:06 pm, Dale Kosan wrote: How did you add it to urpmi? Dale; You're best bet is to download the whole folder from my server as i have to shut it down on Saturday. Once you have it on your PC, then use the following command which assumes that your KDE32 folder is in /home/dale urpmi.addmedia KDE32 file://home/dale/kde32/ with hdlist.cz Just copy and paste that line into a root user's shell or console. Modify the path if you store the KDE32 folder somewhere else. Lanman -- Registered Linux user #190712 Smart IT people are staring out the window into the eye of a giant penguin! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
lanman wrote: On February 13, 2004 07:06 pm, Dale Kosan wrote: How did you add it to urpmi? Dale; You're best bet is to download the whole folder from my server as i have to shut it down on Saturday. Once you have it on your PC, then use the following command which assumes that your KDE32 folder is in /home/dale urpmi.addmedia KDE32 file://home/dale/kde32/ with hdlist.cz Just copy and paste that line into a root user's shell or console. Modify the path if you store the KDE32 folder somewhere else. Lanman Or if you are allergic to the command line then just open the MCC, go to software management, software media manager, add, then type in a new name (e.g, kde32) and browse to the folder you want to add (like /home/antonovich/kde32/). If you want you can tick the hdlist box and type int hdlist.cz, or just let it find it itself (by leaving it blank). I used this method just to try it out with that very folder (cos I'm trying very hard to NOT be allergic to the commandline!)! cheers Anton -=-=- ... I accept chaos. I am not sure whether it accepts me. I know some people are terrified of the bomb. But then some people are terrified to be seen carrying a modern screen magazine. Experience teaches us that silence terrifies people the most. -- Bob Dylan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
In the meantime. Do I need to uninstall kde 3.1.3 first, or can I just go straight for the urpmi *? Cheers It had to go anyway, so I just uninstalled it. This is being written from kde 3.2. Good stuff, though I will be changing the ugly MDK star back to the K as soon as I can be bothered! Cheers Anton ps. Not completely without problems, but pretty much! pps. Don't know how anyone managed to get urpmi * to work though... -=-=- ... War spares not the brave, but the cowardly. -- Anacreon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
So! You're moving to Canada then? Grin! Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 2/11/2004 at 4:47 PM anton wrote: ftp://ftp.maximumlans.com Log in as newbie with password newbie Cheers Heaps I seem to have them all. It only took 12-13 hours! Yippi! In two months I leave this dark hole to the light of telco competition (in a foreign land)! Hurraaah! Cheap broadband! In the meantime. Do I need to uninstall kde 3.1.3 first, or can I just go straight for the urpmi *? Cheers Anton ps. I have already shouted loudly how cool this wee community is. Damn, thanks for being good bastards! -=-=- ... Happiness makes up in height what it lacks in length. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
Dan Gordon wrote: On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 18:04:20 -0500 Lanman wrote: Try logging into Gnome to delete your old KDE packages and to install the new ones. It worked perfectly for me. Hm ok I will give that a try, when I have some time. I had been trying from XFce4. I had a similar problem and solved it by doing urpmi bit by bit. First I installed something basic to get the essential KDE libraries in place, then progressed through network and multimedia. Some packages have dependencies from contrib, so that might be what's giving you a headache. I thought that might work too, thats how i ended up with everything but the base stuff installed which just would not go. I also borked k3b in the process, but I think that was my fault. I think removing 3.1.3 automatically removes k3b because of dependency's, IE kde needs to be there before k3b. Yes, the problem was that it wouldn't reinstall afterwards because of conflicts. Sir Robin -- Telling disgruntled employees that they are always free to leave their jobs seems no different in principle from telling political dissidents that they are free to emigrate. - Stephen Newman Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 16:22:25 +0200 robin wrote: I think removing 3.1.3 automatically removes k3b because of dependency's, IE kde needs to be there before k3b. Yes, the problem was that it wouldn't reinstall afterwards because of conflicts. Thats a bummer, have you had a look at bashburn, http://bashburn.sourceforge.net I used to use k3b till i tryed this program. Regards, Dan Gordon -- Wed Feb 11 11:57:08 EST 2004 11:57:08 up 23:09, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.05, 0.05 ___ ( More people are flattered into virtue ) ( than bullied out of vice. -- R.S. ) ( Surtees ) --- o ^__^ o (OO)\___ (__)\ )\/\ ||w | || || Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
On Wednesday 11 February 2004 12:00, Dan Gordon wrote: On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 16:22:25 +0200 robin wrote: I think removing 3.1.3 automatically removes k3b because of dependency's, IE kde needs to be there before k3b. Yes, the problem was that it wouldn't reinstall afterwards because of conflicts. Thats a bummer, have you had a look at bashburn, http://bashburn.sourceforge.net I used to use k3b till i tryed this program. Regards, Dan Gordon I can understand if an application has annoyed you to the point that you simply HAVE to solve it, but assuming that you're just concerned about being able to use an easy to use CD burning application with a simple GUI, why not try CDBakeoven? Seriously, it's almost a twin to Adaptec's EZ CD Creator, and it doesn't give a hoot about being configured as root or anyone else. Just install one RPM, refresh your menu ( menudrake ), and you'll find it waiting in the same section that other CD burning apps sit in. Launch it, click on Detect, and set the recording speed of the burner. In almost 3 years, on any version of Mandrake, it hasn't given me one bad burn, and took less than a minute to install and setup, after refreshing the menu. With that kind of stability, why go elsewhere? It even has an intro panel so that you can pre-select the type of burn you want to do. This one's a 12 in my book. Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
lanman wrote: On Wednesday 11 February 2004 12:00, Dan Gordon wrote: On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 16:22:25 +0200 robin wrote: I think removing 3.1.3 automatically removes k3b because of dependency's, IE kde needs to be there before k3b. Yes, the problem was that it wouldn't reinstall afterwards because of conflicts. Thats a bummer, have you had a look at bashburn, http://bashburn.sourceforge.net I used to use k3b till i tryed this program. Regards, Dan Gordon I can understand if an application has annoyed you to the point that you simply HAVE to solve it, but assuming that you're just concerned about being able to use an easy to use CD burning application with a simple GUI, why not try CDBakeoven? Seriously, it's almost a twin to Adaptec's EZ CD Creator, and it doesn't give a hoot about being configured as root or anyone else. Just install one RPM, refresh your menu ( menudrake ), and you'll find it waiting in the same section that other CD burning apps sit in. Launch it, click on Detect, and set the recording speed of the burner. In almost 3 years, on any version of Mandrake, it hasn't given me one bad burn, and took less than a minute to install and setup, after refreshing the menu. With that kind of stability, why go elsewhere? It even has an intro panel so that you can pre-select the type of burn you want to do. This one's a 12 in my book. Thanks Dan and Lanman - I'm downloading both of these now. Ease of use is crucial; if it were just me, I'd be happy to just use the command line for burning, but Windows users have to use this box on occasion, as it's the only one in the office with CD-RW. Sir Robin -- Telling disgruntled employees that they are always free to leave their jobs seems no different in principle from telling political dissidents that they are free to emigrate. - Stephen Newman Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
On Tuesday 10 February 2004 06:18, Greg Meyer wrote: The package structure was changed significantly with 3.2 so that a straight upgrade from 3.1.3 will not be possible. For instance, kmail moved from kdenetwork to kdepim, so you cannot upgrade kdenetwork-kmail to kdepim-kmail. Try removing KDE 3.1.3 first and then installing 3.2. In that case; Wouldn't it have been better to have them install in /opt so one could choose which version to run? Good luck, HarM -- Registered Linux User #197998 FSF Associate Member #901 ICQ #146191606 Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 00:18:35 -0500 Greg Meyer wrote: The package structure was changed significantly with 3.2 so that a straight upgrade from 3.1.3 will not be possible. For instance, kmail moved from kdenetwork to kdepim, so you cannot upgrade kdenetwork-kmail to kdepim-kmail. Try removing KDE 3.1.3 first and then installing 3.2. Probably 'urpme kdelibs' ought to do it. -- /g Well I tried this and still got the same error, so then i removed all of kde and tried again. LOL it was a disaster, there is some dependency I'm missing so it installed only half of the packages, kde-base and some of the more important ones just would not install. problem is aterm will only scroll back so far so i could not tell what it was looking for. It looked like libsomthing4 was the culprit but don't know the exact name. I was able to remove what got installed and re-install 3.1.3. I am very pleased that it found all of my settings after the re-install:-) Will try again when I have a little more time, thanks everyone for your help. Regards, Dan Gordon -- Tue Feb 10 10:45:07 EST 2004 10:45:07 up 1 day, 22:10, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.04, 0.07 __ ( Q: What do you call a boomerang that ) ( doesn't come back? A: A stick. ) -- o ^__^ o (OO)\___ (__)\ )\/\ ||w | || || Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
Dan Gordon wrote: On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 00:18:35 -0500 Greg Meyer wrote: The package structure was changed significantly with 3.2 so that a straight upgrade from 3.1.3 will not be possible. For instance, kmail moved from kdenetwork to kdepim, so you cannot upgrade kdenetwork-kmail to kdepim-kmail. Try removing KDE 3.1.3 first and then installing 3.2. Probably 'urpme kdelibs' ought to do it. -- /g Well I tried this and still got the same error, so then i removed all of kde and tried again. LOL it was a disaster, there is some dependency I'm missing so it installed only half of the packages, kde-base and some of the more important ones just would not install. problem is aterm will only scroll back so far so i could not tell what it was looking for. It looked like libsomthing4 was the culprit but don't know the exact name. I was able to remove what got installed and re-install 3.1.3. I am very pleased that it found all of my settings after the re-install:-) Will try again when I have a little more time, thanks everyone for your help. I had a similar problem and solved it by doing urpmi bit by bit. First I installed something basic to get the essential KDE libraries in place, then progressed through network and multimedia. Some packages have dependencies from contrib, so that might be what's giving you a headache. I also borked k3b in the process, but I think that was my fault. Sir Robin -- Telling disgruntled employees that they are always free to leave their jobs seems no different in principle from telling political dissidents that they are free to emigrate. - Stephen Newman Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
Try logging into Gnome to delete your old KDE packages and to install the new ones. It worked perfectly for me. Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 2/11/2004 at 12:34 AM robin wrote: Dan Gordon wrote: On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 00:18:35 -0500 Greg Meyer wrote: The package structure was changed significantly with 3.2 so that a straight upgrade from 3.1.3 will not be possible. For instance, kmail moved from kdenetwork to kdepim, so you cannot upgrade kdenetwork-kmail to kdepim-kmail. Try removing KDE 3.1.3 first and then installing 3.2. Probably 'urpme kdelibs' ought to do it. -- /g Well I tried this and still got the same error, so then i removed all of kde and tried again. LOL it was a disaster, there is some dependency I'm missing so it installed only half of the packages, kde-base and some of the more important ones just would not install. problem is aterm will only scroll back so far so i could not tell what it was looking for. It looked like libsomthing4 was the culprit but don't know the exact name. I was able to remove what got installed and re-install 3.1.3. I am very pleased that it found all of my settings after the re-install:-) Will try again when I have a little more time, thanks everyone for your help. I had a similar problem and solved it by doing urpmi bit by bit. First I installed something basic to get the essential KDE libraries in place, then progressed through network and multimedia. Some packages have dependencies from contrib, so that might be what's giving you a headache. I also borked k3b in the process, but I think that was my fault. Sir Robin -- Telling disgruntled employees that they are always free to leave their jobs seems no different in principle from telling political dissidents that they are free to emigrate. - Stephen Newman Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 11:07:37 -0500 Dan Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 00:18:35 -0500 Greg Meyer wrote: The package structure was changed significantly with 3.2 so that a straight upgrade from 3.1.3 will not be possible. For instance, kmail moved from kdenetwork to kdepim, so you cannot upgrade kdenetwork-kmail to kdepim-kmail. Try removing KDE 3.1.3 first and then installing 3.2. Probably 'urpme kdelibs' ought to do it. -- /g Well I tried this and still got the same error, so then i removed all of kde and tried again. LOL it was a disaster, there is some dependency I'm missing so it installed only half of the packages, kde-base and some of the more important ones just would not install. problem is aterm will only scroll back so far so i could not tell what it was looking for. To make aterm keep a whole bunch of lines, execute aterm like this: aterm -sl 5000 If you run it from the Mandrake menu, edit /usr/lib/apps/Mandrake/Terminals/ATerm/AppRun to include that option. John -- Tue Feb 10 17:49:22 CST 2004 -- Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 Plus ,ca change, plus c'est la m^eme chose. [The more things change, the more they remain the same.] -- Alphonse Karr, Les Gu^epes Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 18:04:20 -0500 Lanman wrote: Try logging into Gnome to delete your old KDE packages and to install the new ones. It worked perfectly for me. Hm ok I will give that a try, when I have some time. I had been trying from XFce4. I had a similar problem and solved it by doing urpmi bit by bit. First I installed something basic to get the essential KDE libraries in place, then progressed through network and multimedia. Some packages have dependencies from contrib, so that might be what's giving you a headache. I thought that might work too, thats how i ended up with everything but the base stuff installed which just would not go. I also borked k3b in the process, but I think that was my fault. I think removing 3.1.3 automatically removes k3b because of dependency's, IE kde needs to be there before k3b. Regards, Dan Gordon -- Tue Feb 10 18:43:19 EST 2004 18:43:19 up 5:55, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.06, 0.04 ___ ( I'm wearing PAMPERS!! ) --- o ^__^ o (OO)\___ (__)\ )\/\ ||w | || || Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 17:52:31 -0600 John Drouhard wrote: To make aterm keep a whole bunch of lines, execute aterm like this: aterm -sl 5000 If you run it from the Mandrake menu, edit /usr/lib/apps/Mandrake/Terminals/ATerm/AppRun to include that option. Thanks I'm writing that one down. Regards, Dan Gordon -- 18:55:47 up 6:08, 1 user, load average: 0.38, 0.18, 0.07 Tue Feb 10 18:55:47 EST 2004 ___ ( I met my latest girl friend in a ) ( department store. She was looking at ) ( clothes, and I was putting Slinkys on ) ( the escalators. -- Steven Wright ) --- o ^__^ o (OO)\___ (__)\ )\/\ ||w | || || Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
ftp://ftp.maximumlans.com Log in as newbie with password newbie Cheers Heaps I seem to have them all. It only took 12-13 hours! Yippi! In two months I leave this dark hole to the light of telco competition (in a foreign land)! Hurraaah! Cheap broadband! In the meantime. Do I need to uninstall kde 3.1.3 first, or can I just go straight for the urpmi *? Cheers Anton ps. I have already shouted loudly how cool this wee community is. Damn, thanks for being good bastards! -=-=- ... Happiness makes up in height what it lacks in length. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
ftp://mandrake.contactel.cz/people/bluehawk/kde32-92 ftp://mandrake.contactel.cz/people/bluehawk/kde32-92 These links were provided in the feedback to the note on pclinuxonline.com. Paul On Monday 09 February 2004 05:30 am, anton wrote: Is there someone out there with a webserver and a nice traffic policy like to mirror this so this guys server doesn't get bogged down? And so unlucky b'stards like me on dialup can have a go without leaving the rest of the community waiting for ... well, days? ftp://voidstar.dyndns.org/mirrors/kde32-for-mdk92/i586 Cheers Anton -=-=- ... What makes us so bitter against people who outwit us is that they think themselves cleverer than we are. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
Anton; One Any Nice Person coming right up. To all those interested, my ftp server has been set for KDE 3.2 RPM downloads. These RPM's are for Mandrake 9.2. Be careful though. I only have 800K upload abilities. Here's the link. ftp://ftp.maximumlans.com Log in as newbie with password newbie Enjoy! Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 2/9/2004 at 6:30 PM anton wrote: Is there someone out there with a webserver and a nice traffic policy like to mirror this so this guys server doesn't get bogged down? And so unlucky b'stards like me on dialup can have a go without leaving the rest of the community waiting for ... well, days? ftp://voidstar.dyndns.org/mirrors/kde32-for-mdk92/i586 Cheers Anton -=-=- ... What makes us so bitter against people who outwit us is that they think themselves cleverer than we are. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 00:04:01 -0500 Dan Gordon wrote: Thanks John, I tried this and also urpmi * but get this message each time. [EMAIL PROTECTED] kde32]# urpmi ./*rpm Some package requested cannot be installed: kdebase-3.2-1mdk.i586 kdegraphics-3.2-1mdk.i586 kdenetwork-3.2-1mdk.i586 kdepim-3.2-1mdk.i586 kdeutils-3.2-1mdk.i586 (Y/n) These packages are there so I'm not sure what is wrong ? Ok i found the problem, the packages look like they were corrupted during download. I am downloading them again now. Regards, Dan Gordon -- Tue Feb 10 00:08:49 EST 2004 00:08:49 up 1 day, 11:34, 1 user, load average: 0.05, 0.10, 0.09 __ ( She liked him; he was a man of many ) ( qualities, even if most of them were ) ( bad. ) -- o ^__^ o (OO)\___ (__)\ )\/\ ||w | || || Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms
On Tuesday 10 February 2004 12:04 am, Dan Gordon wrote: On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 22:37:23 -0600 John Drouhard wrote: Ok maybe a dumb question but, I have all the files in a directory by themselves, what is the proper way to install them? change into the directory with the rpm's, become root and: urpmi ./*rpm Thanks John, I tried this and also urpmi * but get this message each time. [EMAIL PROTECTED] kde32]# urpmi ./*rpm Some package requested cannot be installed: kdebase-3.2-1mdk.i586 kdegraphics-3.2-1mdk.i586 kdenetwork-3.2-1mdk.i586 kdepim-3.2-1mdk.i586 kdeutils-3.2-1mdk.i586 (Y/n) These packages are there so I'm not sure what is wrong ? The package structure was changed significantly with 3.2 so that a straight upgrade from 3.1.3 will not be possible. For instance, kmail moved from kdenetwork to kdepim, so you cannot upgrade kdenetwork-kmail to kdepim-kmail. Try removing KDE 3.1.3 first and then installing 3.2. Probably 'urpme kdelibs' ought to do it. -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
