Re: [newbie] root password lost
On Monday 01 November 2004 14:35, M.Schild wrote: Hi, a friend who has just tried mandrake 10 for his first time on Linux cannot remeber his root password. Any way he can retrieve it? TIA Maryse 1)Boot the box 2) when the lilo-boot menu appears hit escape 3)enter linux int 1 at he prompt and hit enter 4)Wait until mdk runs i.e. a prompt appears and type passwd 5)enter the new password when prompted. 6)Promise to NEVER hi-jack somebody else's thread again and rejoice. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] root password lost
On Monday 01 November 2004 15:46, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: 3)enter linux int 1 at he prompt and hit enter that shoulde be linux init 1 , sorry. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] root password lost
6)Promise to NEVER hi-jack somebody else's thread again and rejoice. Thank you and sorry about the hijack. I wasn´t aware Maryse Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] root password lost
that shoulde be linux init 1 , sorry. OK, Thanks Maryse Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] root
On Sunday 06 July 2003 5:35 pm, Tsyko wrote: Good day how can i set my user up with root privileges? Thanks Tsyko, Setting yourself up with root privileges can be VERY DANGERIOUS! if you don't know, the power of root learn( if you already don't know that is..) to su to root! example...if your account gets cracked not hacked!! and your account has root privileges, the cracker who cracked your account has root privi.. I'm sure you can see where this will lead... I'm sure others will tell you the same. su is the best..IMHO... good luck -- Gavin c/o GES Japan Register Linux user # 199685 Sent 2u on a M$ free system!! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] root
On Sunday 06 July 2003 5:35 pm, Tsyko wrote: Good day how can i set my user up with root privileges? Thanks Tsyko, Setting yourself up with root privileges can be VERY DANGERIOUS! if you don't know, the power of root learn( if you already don't know that is..) to su to root! example...if your account gets cracked not hacked!! and your account has root privileges, the cracker who cracked your account has root privi.. I'm sure you can see where this will lead... I'm sure others will tell you the same. su is the best..IMHO... good luck -- Gavin c/o GES Japan Register Linux user # 199685 Sent 2u on a M$ free system!! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] root
OK this can be done - but I think - if you knew how you would probably not do it - you can compromise your system to bad people.(Do not even think it will NOT happen to you) I now it is a hassle to to use console and you would rather use GUI. I asume that you are new to this according to your question. Here is some suggestions to avoid that. Change to console. Use su then password or su - (with a minus)then password - the last one makes the root environment available. Should you like GUI (like in home on your screen) type konqueror - there now you can move around in your system like root. Can open files by right clicking and using open with...a lot of editors available. Should you like to to edit a file in console- move to the directory then like .. gedit foo.conf ( or any other text editor ..kwrite and more) you can edit/print/save/whatever like root. while you are in console-root you may move/access any directory or file - now again do not access files you do not know what they do - you can make your system in-operable. Now when you close console all root privileges are gone and system safe. Need more info - please feel free to ask Enjoy Johan * - Original Message - From: Tsyko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 10:35 AM Subject: [newbie] root Good day how can i set my user up with root privileges? Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] root filesystem problems
On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 00:29, Andrei Raevsky wrote: the computer booted up normally but now I get messages such as Can't write file /var/log/linuxconf/netconf.log I am running ext3 journalling filesystem which I thought would record the location of all my files every 5 sec. However, data was lost. Why?! Can you explain what happened? And should I take any special action? Hi Andrei (please remove the Reply To in your mail program) Did you have a power-problem on the PC? Did it crash lately? I recognise the problems. My (very soon to be ex) normal PC keeps crashing due to some weird hardware flaw, thus corrupting the info on the disks. Most of the partitions there are EXT3 also. After 1 crash, the FS was recovered quickly. But when things collapse every hour, things on disk become such a mess that all kinds of other things seem to go wrong. Things that EXT3 does not (probably can not) take into account. A few times things went so wrong that I had to reformat / and /usr and reinstall everything from scratch. You should check if /var/log/linuxconf exists. If not, you can mkdir that by hand (as root) and see if the problems go away. If more /var or other problems occur, you would be best off to consider a reinstall. Good luck. Paul (who is waiting for a new PC to be deliverd today) -- Thou shalt not impersonate Liberace or eat watermelon while sitting at the console keyboard. http://nlpagan.net - Linux Mandrake - Ximian Evolution Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] root filesystem problems
On Sunday June 29 2003 05:29 pm, Andrei Raevsky wrote: I am running ext3 journalling filesystem which I thought would record the location of all my files every 5 sec. However, data was lost. Why?! Can you explain what happened? And should I take any special action? ext3 is really just ext2 with a not so good journal tacked on. As such it doesn't recover very much better than ext2 does. Better to use ReiserFS or XFS true journaling FS's. I'd suggest ReiserFS. Doesn't help much with your problems now, but next time you install, I'd advise you to avoid ext3. As to lost or corrupted files, unless you have backups for 'em, I'm afraid you're SOL. You might try lookin in the various 'lostfound' directories ext3 spread all over your system when it tried to recover. OTOH, your corruption shouldn't have happened other than due to a hard shutdown. If that was due to power failure, you need to invest in an UPS. If you didn't have a hard re-set, your hard drive(s), might be goin bad. The drive(s) probly came with a bootable floppy and suitable diagnostics on it for that drive. If not, you can get the floppy image from your drive's website. Otherwise see 'man badblocks'. You might also have a deficient HDD controller, specially if you've got a win-raid motherboard, with the fake raid disabled in bios, but are usin the extra ide ports. Other possible causes are faulty ram, or PSU. There's other more remote causes like bad caps on the motherboard, to somethin simple like ide cable(s) that need re-seating or replacing. IOW's the reason can be many and/or varied, but boil down to user (including choices), or hardware. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] root filesystem problems
Hi Tom, Thanks for the very thourough answer. I did not have a power failure and my hardware is an old laptop. Next time I will choose ReiserFS. Thanks a lot! Andrei On Sunday June 29 2003 05:29 pm, Andrei Raevsky wrote: I am running ext3 journalling filesystem which I thought would record the location of all my files every 5 sec. However, data was lost. Why?! Can you explain what happened? And should I take any special action? ext3 is really just ext2 with a not so good journal tacked on. As such it doesn't recover very much better than ext2 does. Better to use ReiserFS or XFS true journaling FS's. I'd suggest ReiserFS. Doesn't help much with your problems now, but next time you install, I'd advise you to avoid ext3. As to lost or corrupted files, unless you have backups for 'em, I'm afraid you're SOL. You might try lookin in the various 'lostfound' directories ext3 spread all over your system when it tried to recover. OTOH, your corruption shouldn't have happened other than due to a hard shutdown. If that was due to power failure, you need to invest in an UPS. If you didn't have a hard re-set, your hard drive(s), might be goin bad. The drive(s) probly came with a bootable floppy and suitable diagnostics on it for that drive. If not, you can get the floppy image from your drive's website. Otherwise see 'man badblocks'. You might also have a deficient HDD controller, specially if you've got a win-raid motherboard, with the fake raid disabled in bios, but are usin the extra ide ports. Other possible causes are faulty ram, or PSU. There's other more remote causes like bad caps on the motherboard, to somethin simple like ide cable(s) that need re-seating or replacing. IOW's the reason can be many and/or varied, but boil down to user (including choices), or hardware. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas -- Linux-Mandrake 9 (Dolphin) Mandrake Club Silver Member Registered GNU/Linux user: 226850 Registered GNU/Linux computer: 183163 URL: http://laptops.portalinux.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] root password expired.
If someone has physical access to your computer, it's almost impossible to secure the machine for 100% Maybe encrypted partitions can do the trick (partially), but I 'm not familiar with it. Steven On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 15:00, Burrows, Scott wrote: What prevents anybody from doing this to gain access to the system? Scott -Original Message- From: Troy Davidson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] root password expired. Ze, Restart the computer and put it into single user mode. At either LILO or GRUB, type 'linux 1' at the prompt. Then, once the computer has started, go into a terminal and type in 'su'. You won't need to enter in a password. Type in 'userconf' and change the root password. Reboot the system and you should be all set. Troy Davidson Linux User #311107 ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** Quoting Ze Ji Li [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi there, My root password expired. I can't su and login from the terminals. Is there anyway I can reset it? Thank you. Ze __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] root password expired.
Ze, Restart the computer and put it into single user mode. At either LILO or GRUB, type 'linux 1' at the prompt. Then, once the computer has started, go into a terminal and type in 'su'. You won't need to enter in a password. Type in 'userconf' and change the root password. Reboot the system and you should be all set. Troy Davidson Linux User #311107 ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** Quoting Ze Ji Li [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi there, My root password expired. I can't su and login from the terminals. Is there anyway I can reset it? Thank you. Ze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Root startx problems
On Monday 02 June 2003 08:36 am, Lanman wrote: Ronald; Try login in as a normal user, su - to root, and run kcontrol. When you get there, open Look Feel, and then Behaviour. You're looking for a checkbox to show desktop icons. Check the box, apply, close, and restart X. Thanks Lanman - that seemed to do it. How did you figure out to do this? Frankly, I'm having lots of problems and disappointments with Mandrake v9.1 here. At this moment, if my normal user opens a window on /home, then closes it, it crashes. If my root account opens 2 windows, and tries to copy anything between them, then both windows just disappear, no errors, no warnings, nothing. Here is the backtrace message: 0x41037677 in waitpid () from /lib/i686/libpthread.so.0 #0 0x41037677 in waitpid () from /lib/i686/libpthread.so.0 #1 0x4075de7b in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler(int) () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4 #2 0x411a33b8 in __libc_sigaction () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 #3 0x41b61745 in KonqKfmIconView::~KonqKfmIconView() () from /usr/lib/kde3/konq_iconview.so #4 0x4008d8ec in KonqView::~KonqView() () from /usr/lib/konqueror.so #5 0x4009633d in KonqViewManager::clear() () from /usr/lib/konqueror.so #6 0x4009255a in KonqViewManager::~KonqViewManager() () from /usr/lib/konqueror.so #7 0x40068848 in KonqMainWindow::~KonqMainWindow() () from /usr/lib/konqueror.so Any ideas? :-( -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Root startx problems
Dear Dark Lord ( sounds kinda sinister don't it? ); I had to figure it out the hard way ! LOL! Actually, it was a reasonable deduction. I compared how the desktop worked for a normal user and the root user. Normal user had desktop icons, and root didn't. Only major visible difference was the icons. When all else fails, I fall back on an old family recipe that we call Common sense and a bit of dumb luck. I'm hoping to patent the recipe soon! Gonna make a killing in stupid countries! When I saw the difference, it struck me that KDE was waiting for something to finish loading, but that something was never gonna load unless it had been activated. Go Figure! 9 years in I.T., 4 years of college, $27,000.00 in student loans, and this is what it comes down to! That's it, I'm depressed! I'm giving up this computer stuff and getting a job at McDonald's! ( Yeah, right! ). Next time you can't figure out something in Linux, call me and I'll sell you a license for the recipe! LOFL! As to your new problem, correct me if I'm wrong, but this is a new install without updates, right? If so, log in as root, open konqueror, and delete the home folder for your user. Log out, and login as yourself again. KDE will create a new home folder for you. See if that fixed the problem for you. If it does, open a console and su to root. open konqueror, and delete the root user's home folder. Then logout and back in as root. The same thing should occur - ie; new root home folder. Be aware that you'll need to save anything in those home folders that you wish to keep, as everything will be deleted - documents, bookmarks, porn-, er, um, graphics, etc., so save them first. By the looks of your backtrace message, you've either got a couple of bad desktops and need to replace them, or the libraries which support KDE are hooped. If you can't get the desktops back in one piece, log in using Gnome, and re-install your KDE desktop packages from scratch. Either the laser lens in your CDROM drive is dirty, or you have some bad packages. Or your Kharma is screwed and you should stay away from KDE 3.1 ?? Grin! Grin! Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 6/2/2003 at 11:41 AM Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Monday 02 June 2003 08:36 am, Lanman wrote: Ronald; Try login in as a normal user, su - to root, and run kcontrol. When you get there, open Look Feel, and then Behaviour. You're looking for a checkbox to show desktop icons. Check the box, apply, close, and restart X. Thanks Lanman - that seemed to do it. How did you figure out to do this? Frankly, I'm having lots of problems and disappointments with Mandrake v9.1 here. At this moment, if my normal user opens a window on /home, then closes it, it crashes. If my root account opens 2 windows, and tries to copy anything between them, then both windows just disappear, no errors, no warnings, nothing. Here is the backtrace message: 0x41037677 in waitpid () from /lib/i686/libpthread.so.0 #0 0x41037677 in waitpid () from /lib/i686/libpthread.so.0 #1 0x4075de7b in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler(int) () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4 #2 0x411a33b8 in __libc_sigaction () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 #3 0x41b61745 in KonqKfmIconView::~KonqKfmIconView() () from /usr/lib/kde3/konq_iconview.so #4 0x4008d8ec in KonqView::~KonqView() () from /usr/lib/konqueror.so #5 0x4009633d in KonqViewManager::clear() () from /usr/lib/konqueror.so #6 0x4009255a in KonqViewManager::~KonqViewManager() () from /usr/lib/konqueror.so #7 0x40068848 in KonqMainWindow::~KonqMainWindow() () from /usr/lib/konqueror.so Any ideas? :-( -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Root startx problems
On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 22:25, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Well, for some odd reason, I can't startx with my root account. I can login, su, anything like that. If I do a startx, it goes thru the Nvidia splash screen, then the KDE startup stuff, then I get a busy cursor that never resolves. My normal user account works fine. This is on a newly installed (not updated) v9.1 download edition of Mandrake. Thanks! Delete the .kde directory and any .gnome* directories in the /root account and try again; as well, you might want to make sure you've got Xtart installed - and try that... -- Tue Jun 3 08:35:00 EST 2003 08:35:00 up 3 days, 17:44, 4 users, load average: 0.04, 0.14, 0.16 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * /* * For moronic filesystems that do not allow holes in file. * We may have to extend the file. */ 2.4.0-test2 /usr/src/linux/fs/buffer.c Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Root startx problems
Ronald; Try login in as a normal user, su - to root, and run kcontrol. When you get there, open Look Feel, and then Behaviour. You're looking for a checkbox to show desktop icons. Check the box, apply, close, and restart X. I had a similar problem where my mouse pointer would stay busy, until I found this option. For some reason, KDE keeps looking for the desktop icons even though they're not selected by default. No guarantee that this will work, but odds are that this is causing your problem, assuming that you're running KDE ( I think! ). Grin! Grin! Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 6/2/2003 at 8:25 AM Ronald J. Hall wrote: Well, for some odd reason, I can't startx with my root account. I can login, su, anything like that. If I do a startx, it goes thru the Nvidia splash screen, then the KDE startup stuff, then I get a busy cursor that never resolves. My normal user account works fine. This is on a newly installed (not updated) v9.1 download edition of Mandrake. Thanks! -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Root User
On Sunday 30 March 2003 11:39 pm, Computa User wrote: Hi. I'm using KDE in Mandrake Linux 9.1. I want to add 'Root' as an option on the login screen [Right now it only shows a normal user]. Does anybody know how I can do that? Thanks. Users below UID 500 or so are not displayed in gdm, kdm, or mdkkdm(or whatever that thing is) display managers. This is because you are not supposed to login with system level UID's. Eh, unless you know exactly what you are doing. Anything below 500 is, if memory serves, considered to be a system level ID. Display managers show all users above 500. In windows systems up to 2k you are automatically the equivalent of root with whatever id you log in as. This goes against the multiuser and security philosophy of Unix systems since their advent in or around 1969; for a bazillion good reasons. The accepted method for root access is to log in as a regular user and then use an Eterm to run su. Normal non-system applications in Linux (like X, for instance) are not meant to be run as root and therefore can introduce a multitudinous plethora of concerns, both of security and armageddon. System level applications that require root access will prompt you for a root password on their own. --LX -- °° Kernel 2.4.21-0.11mdk LM91-RC3 Enlightenment-0.16.5-12mdk Kmail 1.5 Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Root User
Assuming you're using kdm. From the kde control centersytemlogin managerusers -jm On Sunday 30 March 2003 11:39 pm, Computa User wrote: Hi. I'm using KDE in Mandrake Linux 9.1. I want to add 'Root' as an option on the login screen [Right now it only shows a normal user]. Does anybody know how I can do that? Thanks. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] root login
--- Roy Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Robt. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Drake Zero [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 11:11 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] root login On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Drake Zero wrote: I installed 8.2 a few days ago and I'm trying to login as root (I think that's what it is) from a command line from the KDE desktop. When I installed Mandrake I recall setting the root password but not a name. Is there a default name for use to login as root or will I have to install all over again (not a big deal)? It asked you for the root password during the install. -- (o Powered by SuSE Linux //\ Virusproof. Crashproof. V_/_No MS products were used in the creation of this message.. 11:10pm up 1 day, 9:38, 24 users, load average: 1.08, 1.15, 1.16 processes 133880 Name would be root Please note that while yes, the root password is associated with a user called root (no quotes), this is what you would type in when faced with a log-in dialogue (either gui or character, er, chui?). The original poster was asking about from a command line in a KDE desktop - presumably from a terminal session. To become root in this case, you would use su - (no quotes). This is substitute user and if you don't specify a user, it goes for root (the hypen means run that user's login script(s) - so you can use su without the hyphen). It will then ask for the root password and you will be all powerful! HTH, Ron. __ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] root login
On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Drake Zero wrote: I installed 8.2 a few days ago and I'm trying to login as root (I think that's what it is) from a command line from the KDE desktop. When I installed Mandrake I recall setting the root password but not a name. Is there a default name for use to login as root or will I have to install all over again (not a big deal)? It asked you for the root password during the install. -- (o Powered by SuSE Linux //\ Virusproof. Crashproof. V_/_No MS products were used in the creation of this message.. 11:10pm up 1 day, 9:38, 24 users, load average: 1.08, 1.15, 1.16 processes 133880 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] root login
On Tue, 2002-07-02 at 13:04, Drake Zero wrote: I installed 8.2 a few days ago and I'm trying to login as root (I think that's what it is) from a command line from the KDE desktop. When I installed Mandrake I recall setting the root password but not a name. Is there a default name for use to login as root or will I have to install all over again (not a big deal)? If you have already logged in as a user and need to execute certain commands as root, use 'su'. 'su' will request a password. Give the root password and you will be root. Type 'exit' to go back to being a normal user. If you haven't logged in as a user and wish to log in to the desktop as root, (which isn't a good idea for many reasons), the username for root is...wait for it... root! Regards, John... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] root / su passwords different?
I thought the su and root passwords were the same? Or was the login failing because there was no user named root somehow? Wow that is a weird one... but rest assured, su and root are exactly the same password, because all su does is log you in as the user root. Just as a matter of interest, did you know that su allows you to login as any user, not just root? Typing plain old su without a username defaults to logging in as root, but if you type su somename, then you can login as the user somename. It is possible to delete the user root, but it is something I dont think you can do by accident. I guess you might be able to corrupt the passwd or shadow files, but... . Sorry I cant actually answer your question, but it sounds something odd might have happened during the upgrade. Maybe post your question to the mandrake-expert list and see what response you get there. H Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] root / su passwords different?
If you figure it out, please please post it here. I have the same problem. On Fri, 8 Mar 2002 17:46:40 +0100 Hamster Hamster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought the su and root passwords were the same? Or was the login failing because there was no user named root somehow? Wow that is a weird one... but rest assured, su and root are exactly the same password, because all su does is log you in as the user root. Just as a matter of interest, did you know that su allows you to login as any user, not just root? Typing plain old su without a username defaults to logging in as root, but if you type su somename, then you can login as the user somename. It is possible to delete the user root, but it is something I dont think you can do by accident. I guess you might be able to corrupt the passwd or shadow files, but... . Sorry I cant actually answer your question, but it sounds something odd might have happened during the upgrade. Maybe post your question to the mandrake-expert list and see what response you get there. H Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] root / su passwords different?
Paul F. Fraley wrote: I DL'd and upgraded with the MDK 8.2 beta4 cd-ISOs yesterday on a working 8.0 installation. i am saying with 8.1. and skipping 8.2 I was able to log in as root from the graphic login screen one time. After that I tried to log in as root, ROOT, and Root, getting a login failed message. Same result from the command line. should _always_ be 'root'. but then we are dealing with electronics. I was able to log in as a user, and su to root using the same password that did not work for root. normal As su, I did passwd root and entered a password. Didn't help with root, worked fine with su. see below I thought the su and root passwords were the same? Or was the login failing because there was no user named root somehow? they should be. not likely from what you write, you may have security set at max, no root log in from console. nothing wrong with that. you should not log in as root anyway. you should find that at lilo boot prompt, if you enter 'linux init 1' or 'linux init 3', you will boot to 'maintenance/single user' or 'multi user/command line'. at init 1, you need no password, at init 3, users log in with password, still no root. again, high security level is set. I'm fixed now, I did an install to get rid of the upgrade, since there were several problems. But I would still like input on how to fix this should it happen again. so is my ex-girlfriend's cat, but he is not very happy about it. [clean install always better than upgrade.] it is not broke. do not try to fix it. leave it alone. it is that way for a reason. it is that way to make things more secure. it is a feature, not a bug/fault/error. until you learn more about unix/linux security, _do_not_ weaken system. should by some chance you need to boot unsafe, boot to init 1. if others are going to have access to you system, add passwording to 'lilo.conf' run 'lilo' and remove file from system. put a lock on boot floppy drive. ;) hth. iat. being that you are new to open world of unix and linux, i would suggest you find some good books on security. btw. tabs are a waste. blank lines break thoughts. 79 line wrap is nice. tc,hago. g . -- think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email, text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy made in america. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] root / su passwords different?
do you have numbers in you password? is the num lock light on when you type the password and are you using the numberpad keys? On Friday 08 March 2002 17:19, you wrote: Paul F. Fraley wrote: I DL'd and upgraded with the MDK 8.2 beta4 cd-ISOs yesterday on a working 8.0 installation. i am saying with 8.1. and skipping 8.2 I was able to log in as root from the graphic login screen one time. After that I tried to log in as root, ROOT, and Root, getting a login failed message. Same result from the command line. should _always_ be 'root'. but then we are dealing with electronics. I was able to log in as a user, and su to root using the same password that did not work for root. normal As su, I did passwd root and entered a password. Didn't help with root, worked fine with su. see below I thought the su and root passwords were the same? Or was the login failing because there was no user named root somehow? they should be. not likely from what you write, you may have security set at max, no root log in from console. nothing wrong with that. you should not log in as root anyway. you should find that at lilo boot prompt, if you enter 'linux init 1' or 'linux init 3', you will boot to 'maintenance/single user' or 'multi user/command line'. at init 1, you need no password, at init 3, users log in with password, still no root. again, high security level is set. I'm fixed now, I did an install to get rid of the upgrade, since there were several problems. But I would still like input on how to fix this should it happen again. so is my ex-girlfriend's cat, but he is not very happy about it. [clean install always better than upgrade.] it is not broke. do not try to fix it. leave it alone. it is that way for a reason. it is that way to make things more secure. it is a feature, not a bug/fault/error. until you learn more about unix/linux security, _do_not_ weaken system. should by some chance you need to boot unsafe, boot to init 1. if others are going to have access to you system, add passwording to 'lilo.conf' run 'lilo' and remove file from system. put a lock on boot floppy drive. ;) hth. iat. being that you are new to open world of unix and linux, i would suggest you find some good books on security. btw. tabs are a waste. blank lines break thoughts. 79 line wrap is nice. tc,hago. g . Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] root email spam
Take a look in /etc/cron.daily -- that is everything that is being run on a daily basis, and probably the source of virtually every e-mail you're getting. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida At 03:36 PM 01/08/2002 -0800, you wrote: I'm am really really really sick of all the email that is generated every night and mailed to root. When programs are doing it? I tracked some down too logcheck... but whatr about the rest? Can someome please tell me what is generating all these security reports and emailing them to root every night? And how I can turn them off? :) Thanks in advance. -- Bryan Whitehead SysAdmin - JPL - Interferometry Systems and Technology Phone: 818 354 2903 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Root exploit in SSH
Attachment converted: Big Foot:Untitled 9 (/) (0003801F) Can you shut off the attachments that go out with your posts to the Mandrake Newbie list? My drive is getting littered with these files A big ditto as far as message.footer is concerned. PLEASE PLEASE rethink this as a .signature rather than an attachment. It's not all that big of a deal -- at least it didn't use to be - but in 8.1 with its new elm - it interferes a lot, unless elm can be reconfigured not to see every message from that list as having an attachment. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Root exploit in SSH
On Sat, 2001-12-01 at 13:34, dfox wrote: Attachment converted: Big Foot:Untitled 9 (/) (0003801F) Can you shut off the attachments that go out with your posts to the Mandrake Newbie list? My drive is getting littered with these files I have stopped putting my digital signature on all emails to the list. For whatever reason, Evolution insists on signing emails as an attachment, rather than just including the appropriate text within the message like kmail does. A big ditto as far as message.footer is concerned. PLEASE PLEASE rethink this as a .signature rather than an attachment. It's not all that big of a deal -- at least it didn't use to be - but in 8.1 with its new elm - it interferes a lot, unless elm can be reconfigured not to see every message from that list as having an attachment. That message.footer is from the list server, not me. Dave -- Earth -- mother of the most beautiful women in the universe. -- Apollo, Who Mourns for Adonais? stardate 3468.1 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Root exploit in SSH
I have stopped putting my digital signature on all emails to the list. For whatever reason, Evolution insists on signing emails as an Dave, I wasn't directing this message at you personally, but your message was just a catalyst for me to vent :) Sorry. I didn't see your messages in particular - it's just that the message.footer is making my screen jump and stuff with this new elm. Dave Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Root exploit in SSH
Root exploit in SSH -- anybody heard about this? I've shut down my ssh server, just in case. But I haven't seen anything on Mandrake's security page for 8.1, nor have I received an announcement from Mandrake. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openssh-unix-devm=100696253318793w=2 I CC'd the security address for Mandrake ... if this was a faux pas, please forgive. Dave Sherman -- Worth seeing? Yes, but not worth going to see. Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Attachment converted: Big Foot:Untitled 9 (/) (0003801F) Can you shut off the attachments that go out with your posts to the Mandrake Newbie list? My drive is getting littered with these files and I'm sure this is happening for others. After the first couple of times, they are redundant. Thanks. Please don't interpret this as an objection to the posts themselves. They are illuminating and helpful. Thanks. Andy Miller Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] root login by default ; response to Steve's post
OK - disconnect your box from the net. Better safe than sorry until we work out what's happening here! Log in as warren. Su over to root (as your normal user won't be able to read the file I'm about to ask you to!) Use your favourite editor to have a browse through /var/log/messages. Do you see root logging on at strange times, when it couldn't have possibly been you? If so, you're probably in trouble and should seriously think about a full re-install and installing a better firewall, as it's likely you've been compromised. Do you have tripwire running and set up correctly? If you feel uncomfortable, feel free to email me directly with your /var/log/messages file and I'll have a shufty. Feel free to perform a global replace of any sensitive information, like your IP address and suchlike, with xxx's. Hopefully, it's something simply and purely a misinterpretation by yourself, but personally, I'd be concerned - you should NEVER see root logging on by itself! Steve Flynn NOP Data Migration Ops Analyst * 01603 687386 -Original Message- From: WCBaker [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 1:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [newbie] root login by default ; response to Steve's post Hi Steve! Yes, I have one for warren and one for root. It also tells me that root logged in shortly before warren (yet I never logged on as root). In addition, it works this way even if I log off, and shut down. I'm on cable modem and I worried that something untowards was happening, so I'd shut down and then try getting back on. It just sits there idle when I log on. Cheers! -warren - Original Message - From: FLYNN, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 4:52 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] Re: root login by default - want to terminate Are you saying that when log into you box as warren or whatever, and you issue a who command you get two entries - one for warren and one for root? Similar to this: (flynns1)/nu/unuat/opc/logs) who wightmpwdp000 Aug 29 11:47 operator ttyAG/AKGa Aug 20 13:10 danchevttyAE/ATEv Aug 28 09:45 danchevttyAG/AEG8 Aug 28 14:39 korennrttyAF/AFFr Aug 29 09:45 forresjttyAG/AIG0 Aug 29 11:33 taylop7ttyAH/AIHt Aug 29 11:39 flynns1ttyAE/AJED Aug 29 11:44 (flynns1)/nu/unuat/opc/logs) File: message.footer ** This email and any files sent with it are intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the named recipient please telephone/email the sender immediately. You should not disclose the content or take/retain/distribute any copies. ** Norwich Union Life Pensions Limited Registered Office 2 Rougier Street York YO90 1UU Registered in England Number 3253947 A member of the Norwich Union Marketing Group which is regulated by the Personal Investment Authority. Member of the Association of British Insurers. For further Enquires 01603 622200 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] root user is no-no?
I just use root. In fact, my four year old uses root. Of course, once my wife deleted /etc, but never did anything happen that a simple reinstallwouldn't cure. jim Quoting Robert MacLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello I've seen every Linux book and manual and doc say that using the machine as Root is a big no-no. All suggest creating an extra user. Okay I create extra user. But what should his settings be? What group should he belong to? I'm hoping that there is something as powerful as root (so I don't get messages that say please log in as root - or only a few messages), but I can't stuff up my machine. Many Thanx Robert MacLean Ignorance is underrated
Re: [newbie] root security mail messages
Replying to my own message here: The workaround I found is to go into the /etc/cron.hourly and locate the files that don't work. Mine was installed with mandrake 7.2: inn-cron-nntpsend I wonder why it doesn't work... Anyway, I moved it to: /etc/cron.hourly.old/ Seems to be ok now... -e- Hi all! Glad to see the religious discussions have stopped. =P I've been running LM7.2 for several months now, and every 15 minutes or so, I get mail sent to root containing this: Subject: Cron root@reactor run-parts /etc/cron.hourly Can't open "/var/run/news/shlock786", Permission denied Does anyone know how to make this stop? Ideally how to fix it? Thanks! -ed-
Re: [newbie] Root Password
On Thu, 11 May 2000, Denis HAVLIK wrote: use SUDO. And use it sparsly, too .-) :~Anyone know anything about how to set super permissions to a user without giving them the root password, or the authority to change the root password once they are granted super user permissions. :~Thanks in advance. :~Dave Perhaps I should already know, but I don't... What is SUDO? Paul )0(---)0( Silence. Do you remember how that sounds? )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]]-)0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
RE: [newbie] Root Password
On Thu, 11 May 2000, Ron Greer wrote: :~Two things: :~1. How to set an EXECUTABLE to run AS root: Chmod 6755 executable name :~The 6 sets the Set-UID Flag :) very bad. This gives everyone the right to run this binary as root. Better way to go is to use sudo, or at least: chown root.mygroup binary chmod 6750 binary and add the users you want to use the prog to "mygroup". :~2. How to set a USER as SUPERVISOR: Easiest way, edit /etc/passwd change :~the :~username:x:number:number:etc :~to :~username:x:0:0:etc By no means! Please, this will give the user ALL the root permissions ALL the time! This is EXTREMELY dangerous. A rm -rf / and wuuup - all is gone. cu Denis :~ -=Ron=- :~ :~ :~-Original Message- :~From: Denis HAVLIK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] :~Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 10:45 AM :~To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :~Subject: Re: [newbie] Root Password :~ :~ :~use SUDO. And use it sparsly, too .-) :~ :~:~Anyone know anything about how to set super permissions to a user without :~giving them the root password, or the authority to change the root password :~once they are granted super user permissions. :~:~Thanks in advance. :~:~Dave :~:~ :~ :~ -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
RE: [newbie] Root Password
heheh, you're no fun. In the first instance, you are correct. The second, I was under the impression that he just basically wanted another super user, but didn't want the same name root, so that for example email to him as root doesn't go to email to another supervisor. Sorry for any confusion. -=Ron=- -Original Message- From: Denis HAVLIK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 12:16 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] Root Password On Thu, 11 May 2000, Ron Greer wrote: :~Two things: :~1. How to set an EXECUTABLE to run AS root: Chmod 6755 executable name :~The 6 sets the Set-UID Flag :) very bad. This gives everyone the right to run this binary as root. Better way to go is to use sudo, or at least: chown root.mygroup binary chmod 6750 binary and add the users you want to use the prog to "mygroup". :~2. How to set a USER as SUPERVISOR: Easiest way, edit /etc/passwd change :~the :~username:x:number:number:etc :~to :~username:x:0:0:etc By no means! Please, this will give the user ALL the root permissions ALL the time! This is EXTREMELY dangerous. A rm -rf / and wuuup - all is gone. cu Denis :~ -=Ron=- :~ :~ :~-Original Message- :~From: Denis HAVLIK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] :~Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 10:45 AM :~To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :~Subject: Re: [newbie] Root Password :~ :~ :~use SUDO. And use it sparsly, too .-) :~ :~:~Anyone know anything about how to set super permissions to a user without :~giving them the root password, or the authority to change the root password :~once they are granted super user permissions. :~:~Thanks in advance. :~:~Dave :~:~ :~ :~ -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
Re: [newbie] Root Password
use SUDO. And use it sparsly, too .-) :~Anyone know anything about how to set super permissions to a user without giving :them the root password, or the authority to change the root password once they are :granted super user permissions. :~Thanks in advance. :~Dave :~ -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
RE: [newbie] Root Password
Wow, I COMPLETELY missed this post... sorry if I'm late with an answer. Two things: 1. How to set an EXECUTABLE to run AS root: Chmod 6755 executable name The 6 sets the Set-UID Flag :) 2. How to set a USER as SUPERVISOR: Easiest way, edit /etc/passwd change the username:x:number:number:etc to username:x:0:0:etc -=Ron=- -Original Message- From: Denis HAVLIK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 10:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Root Password use SUDO. And use it sparsly, too .-) :~Anyone know anything about how to set super permissions to a user without giving them the root password, or the authority to change the root password once they are granted super user permissions. :~Thanks in advance. :~Dave :~ -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
Re: [newbie] Root Password
The tech support questions/answers in the May issue of Linux Journal has two ways to reset/change the root password if you forget it or loose it. On Fri, 05 May 2000, you wrote: If you lose the root password.yepso don't lose it. - Original Message - From: hopper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 1:09 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Root Password On Thu, 04 May 2000, you wrote: On Wed, 3 May 2000, David Smith wrote: Anyone know anything about how to set super permissions to a user without giving them the root password, or the authority to change the root password once they are granted super user permissions. Thanks in advance. Dave You could add the user to the ROOT group, using userconf (as root). This question is sort of along the lost password lines. If I loose the root password, am I totally screwed? Thanks, Nathan
Re: [newbie] Root Password
On Thu, 04 May 2000, you wrote: Anyone know anything about how to set super permissions to a user without giving them the root password, or the authority to change the root password once they are granted super user permissions. Thanks in advance. Dave Hi Dave. Well I'm quite new to all of this myself. It sounds as though you may have forgotten your root password and therefore want to give your user account SU privilages so as to select a new one. If this is so I think you may struggle. Before any permissions can be given you must first be in root which of course requires the password. Maybe someone knows of a hack to get round this. Good luck -- Scotchpie registered linux user: 175478
Re: [newbie] Root Password
On Thu, 04 May 2000, you wrote: On Wed, 3 May 2000, David Smith wrote: Anyone know anything about how to set super permissions to a user without giving them the root password, or the authority to change the root password once they are granted super user permissions. Thanks in advance. Dave You could add the user to the ROOT group, using userconf (as root). This question is sort of along the lost password lines. If I loose the root password, am I totally screwed? Thanks, Nathan
Re: [newbie] Root Password
If you lose the root password.yepso don't lose it. - Original Message - From: hopper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 1:09 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Root Password On Thu, 04 May 2000, you wrote: On Wed, 3 May 2000, David Smith wrote: Anyone know anything about how to set super permissions to a user without giving them the root password, or the authority to change the root password once they are granted super user permissions. Thanks in advance. Dave You could add the user to the ROOT group, using userconf (as root). This question is sort of along the lost password lines. If I loose the root password, am I totally screwed? Thanks, Nathan
Re: [newbie] Root Password
On Fri, 5 May 2000, hopper wrote: On Thu, 04 May 2000, you wrote: On Wed, 3 May 2000, David Smith wrote: Anyone know anything about how to set super permissions to a user without giving them the root password, or the authority to change the root password once they are granted super user permissions. Thanks in advance. Dave You could add the user to the ROOT group, using userconf (as root). This question is sort of along the lost password lines. If I loose the root password, am I totally screwed? No. You can boot and type "linux init 1" at the lilo boot prompt. You will be dropped in a single-user shell without being asked any password. From there, you can change root's password. But I don't think it will work with a too high level security (can someone confirm?) If it still doesn't work, you'll have to boot with a cd that a has a live system on it (like the slack or suse CD), or use a tiny distribution that hold on a few floppoes (sorry I can't remember the name). From there, you can mount your root partition, and change the etc/passwd or etc/shadow file. HTH Flupke Thanks, Nathan
Re: [newbie] Root Password
On Fri, 5 May 2000, hopper wrote: You could add the user to the ROOT group, using userconf (as root). This question is sort of along the lost password lines. If I loose the root password, am I totally screwed? Well, I know that if _I_ lose the root password, that I would be screwed. I am sure there are tricks around it, but these are still beyond me. Paul )0(---)0( Nothing is impossible for the person who doesn't have to do it himself. )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]]-)0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] Root Password
On Wed, 3 May 2000, David Smith wrote: Anyone know anything about how to set super permissions to a user without giving them the root password, or the authority to change the root password once they are granted super user permissions. Thanks in advance. Dave You could add the user to the ROOT group, using userconf (as root). Paul )0(---)0( Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't. )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]]-)0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] root
In a message dated 03/27/2000 8:31:00 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You need to pick up a basic book on Linux (or even Unix), it will explain the concept of security on this operating system. I've tried this as well...and had no success in understanding the book...I picked up 'Running Linux,' published by O'Reilly, and don't really understand anything in it. We learn better by doing than reading, which is what I'm trying to do, with very little success. 'A Slave To The Drive To Obsession- A Spirit With A Vision, Is A Dream With A Mission' -Rush 'Mission' -Chris Rasputin http://www.angelfire.com/ne/rasputin1/Rasputin.html
Re: [newbie] root
How do I login as root? At the login I typed in root and no password, and it rejected it... 'A Slave To The Drive To Obsession- A Spirit With A Vision, Is A Dream With A Mission' -Rush 'Mission' -Chris Rasputin http://www.angelfire.com/ne/rasputin1/Rasputin.html
Re: [newbie] root
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 03/26/2000 9:15:01 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Type in root and your password. Root requires a password. How do I login as root? At the login I typed in root and no password, and it rejected it... -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Press any key to continue and any other key to quit I've tried this as well, and it didn't work...Back to square one... 'A Slave To The Drive To Obsession- A Spirit With A Vision, Is A Dream With A Mission' -Rush 'Mission' -Chris Rasputin http://www.angelfire.com/ne/rasputin1/Rasputin.html Try logging on as a user and then type the command 'su' and give your root password when it asks for it. Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] root
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 03/26/2000 9:15:01 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Type in root and your password. Root requires a password. How do I login as root? At the login I typed in root and no password, and it rejected it... -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Press any key to continue and any other key to quit I've tried this as well, and it didn't work...Back to square one... 'A Slave To The Drive To Obsession- A Spirit With A Vision, Is A Dream With A Mission' -Rush 'Mission' -Chris Rasputin http://www.angelfire.com/ne/rasputin1/Rasputin.html try adding tty1..tty6 to /etc/securetty each on a separate line. man securetty.
Re: [newbie] root
When you did your install of Mandrake or what ever one you are using you are instructed to create a user with a password. You are also told to put a password on the root access. If you did not then I would recommend doing the install again and this time WRITE DOWN THE PASSWORD so you can use it the next time you need it. That is what I have had to do, besides you learn more about your system and find that more software will be add the next time you do an install. Why this happens I do not know, you would have to ask the "GURRUUES" at 'Macmillan' and co. don I thought I knew that I knew what I thought But now I know that what I thought I knew Isn't what I know I think I thought I knew. On Sun, 26 Mar 2000 21:34:42 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How do I login as root? At the login I typed in root and no password, and it rejected it... 'A Slave To The Drive To Obsession- A Spirit With A Vision, Is A Dream With A Mission' -Rush 'Mission' -Chris Rasputin http://www.angelfire.com/ne/rasputin1/Rasputin.html YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
Re: [newbie] root
"CMi1255179" == CMi1255179 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CMi1255179 In a message dated 03/26/2000 9:15:01 PM Central CMi1255179 Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Type in root and your password. Root requires a password. [snip] CMi1255179 I've tried this as well, and it didn't work...Back to CMi1255179 square one... Can you login as a user and do 'su' and get root after entering the root password? -- Mike Fieschko, West Orange, NJ, USA X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1.8 XEmacs and random-sig.el Kernel 2.2.15-0.17mdk http://www.viconet.com/fieschko/home.htm Mar 27 St John Damascene "The riddles of God are more satisfying than the solutions of man." - [G.K. Chesterton, in Introduction to the Book of Job, 1907]
Re: [newbie] root
Or, if you want to save yourself the work of reinstalling the system again, just to punch in one stupid password, you might could type "linux 1" at the LILO-prompt, which will take you to a single-user shell with root-access. Then type "passwd" once it's booted, and provide a password. This is from now on the root-password. After having done this, simply reboot (type "reboot" or "shutdown -r now", or just press CTRL-ALT-DEL) and try logging in again. Also note that if your security level is too high, you won't be able to log in as root. That's one of those silly rules the mandrake-team has come up with. On Mar 26 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you did your install of Mandrake or what ever one you are using you are instructed to create a user with a password. You are also told to put a password on the root access. If you did not then I would recommend doing the install again and this time WRITE DOWN THE PASSWORD so you can use it the next time you need it. That is what I have had to do, besides you learn more about your system and find that more software will be add the next time you do an install. Why this happens I do not know, you would have to ask the "GURRUUES" at 'Macmillan' and co. don I thought I knew that I knew what I thought But now I know that what I thought I knew Isn't what I know I think I thought I knew. On Sun, 26 Mar 2000 21:34:42 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How do I login as root? At the login I typed in root and no password, and it rejected it... 'A Slave To The Drive To Obsession- A Spirit With A Vision, Is A Dream With A Mission' -Rush 'Mission' -Chris Rasputin http://www.angelfire.com/ne/rasputin1/Rasputin.html YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. -- Rial Juanhttp://nighty.ulyssis.org e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Belgiumtel:(++32) 89/856533 ulyssis system admininstrator http://www.ulyssis.org The little critters in nature; they don't know they're ugly. That's very funny... A fly marying a bumble-bee... Sign the petition at http://www.libranet.com/petition.html Help bring us more Linux Drivers
Re: [newbie] Root does not exist
hsantos78 wrote: I installed Mandrake 7 and used for several hours without a problem. The problem comes know that i used root to adduser and my machine got stuck. i rebooted the machine manually (reset). Know i did add the user but says that root does not exist. can any one help me? -- Do you do Linux? :) Get your FREE @linuxstart.com email address at: http://www.linuxstart.com try starting linux by typing "linux 1" without the quotes and enter the change password command (paswrd root - I think) perhaps this will jog it's memory. If that dosen't work I suppose you could always try to adduser root but I warn you I've never done this before so think twice about it and only if you don't mind the possibility of a reinstall -- Joseph S. Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux is like a wigwam... No windows, no gates. Apache inside Registered linux user #1696600 ICQ #63389227
Re: [newbie] Root Password Problem
Well, best I could do being so tired and frustrated and all. I can do better sometimes. Happy New Year 2000! B. B. John Aldrich wrote: On Wed, 29 Dec 1999, you wrote: Pine or Oak log? Thanks for the response. I'm still working other issues and seem to have lucked out fixing this one. Just enough encouragement to keep me hooked, huh? AARRRGGGHHH! That was terrible. ;-) I think LINUX is written to do that to just me. Or is it just me? Happy New Year if the world doesn't go "blooie" on us. Well, Linux is a totally different O/S and it has it's own quirks that you have to learn. :-) John
Re: [newbie] Root Password Problem
On Wed, 29 Dec 1999, you wrote: Pine or Oak log? Thanks for the response. I'm still working other issues and seem to have lucked out fixing this one. Just enough encouragement to keep me hooked, huh? AARRRGGGHHH! That was terrible. ;-) I think LINUX is written to do that to just me. Or is it just me? Happy New Year if the world doesn't go "blooie" on us. Well, Linux is a totally different O/S and it has it's own quirks that you have to learn. :-) John
Re: [newbie] Root Password Problem
Hi Ron, Well, for the moment I've got it set so shouldn't run out of space too soon. While fixing this up and continuing to learn, my Windows 98 system crashed. I logged off the net, went to bed and this morning, screen was in standby mode. Not set for that is software or BIOS, and wound up with both FAT tables corrupted. Fortunately, my emergency stuff worked, (this time anyway). LINUX box is so stable that to get it to act similarly it has to run out of disk space or I have to take a hammer to it. Now why Microsoft can't/ won't do the same is almost criminal. (My opinion is they've discovered folks will purchase something several times for minor fixes so they intentionally don't give us a finished product right off.) Well, anyway, I found some text on what you said about partitioning which went contrary to what I had used originally. Guess the gurus knowledge depends on the guru. (Actually I think the first thing I read was very old and drives up to 1 Gb were considered extreme at that time.) I'm going to have to exit this list and the expert one too and just go to the archives. I'm getting a couple of hundred emails a day and simply can't keep up. I hate that 'cuz I get so much good information not in the books and manuals. Well, that's what the archives are for. But I will keep the group address in my local address book. B. B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ronald A. Yacketta true /usr and /var even /home (if you hae users) will tend to grow faster than / /usr holds the rpm database and most generaly (not in ALL cases) all installed software /var houses your logfiles (that grow and grow and grow (especialy if you have loggng in your ipchains or firewall)) /home well thats a bit obvious, got users they got files and most users (again not ALL) are pack rats. Ron R_Yeo [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/28/99 01:17:21 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Ronald A. Yacketta/958157/EKC) Subject: Re: [newbie] Root Password Problem On Tue, 28 Dec 1999, Toyswins wrote: I think I discovered the problem. Hinted at it the other message. My / partition ran out of space. It got weird with signing in and some other stuff, so might have something to do with it. A 347 Mb one isn't big enough. I've changed it to 1.2 Gb, and if that doesn't work, nothing will. I've got a 400 and 212 Mb drives as hdb and hdc that hold /usr, /home, swap and so forth. I do not have a direct solution for your problems, but isn't a 1.2Gb partition for / a little too big compared to the other partition? The directories under root are pretty static in terms of size. I would have thought that you would want more space in /usr or /home. (Perhaps someone more knowledgable could chip in here). -- Ronald
Re: [newbie] Root Password Problem
On Tue, 28 Dec 1999, you wrote: I think I discovered the problem. Hinted at it the other message. My / partition ran out of space. It got weird with signing in and some other stuff, so might have something to do with it. A 347 Mb one isn't big enough. I've changed it to 1.2 Gb, and if that doesn't work, nothing will. I've got a 400 and 212 Mb drives as hdb and hdc that hold /usr, /home, swap and so forth. After I play with it a while and it goes away, I'll take that as the probable cause. Yep. That would definitely do it. :-) You might want to consider checking on the size of /var/log/* and see how much space your logfiles are taking up... :-) John
Re: [newbie] Root Password Problem
On Tue, 28 Dec 1999, Toyswins wrote: I think I discovered the problem. Hinted at it the other message. My / partition ran out of space. It got weird with signing in and some other stuff, so might have something to do with it. A 347 Mb one isn't big enough. I've changed it to 1.2 Gb, and if that doesn't work, nothing will. I've got a 400 and 212 Mb drives as hdb and hdc that hold /usr, /home, swap and so forth. I do not have a direct solution for your problems, but isn't a 1.2Gb partition for / a little too big compared to the other partition? The directories under root are pretty static in terms of size. I would have thought that you would want more space in /usr or /home. (Perhaps someone more knowledgable could chip in here). -- Ronald
Re: [newbie] Root Password Problem
Well, I ran out with it at 350 Mb and that was recommended in a book I have on the topic of partition sizes. Matter of fact, most of the other partitions were either empty or close to it. Somewhere it's putting everything in / I do believe. Either way, I won't run out for a while now. Recommendation was to check the log files for their sizes. Too late since I've already repartitioned and installed. but I noted the current size and will check the log files soon to see what they're up to. Maybe they grew realy big? It's all on my "throw away" box now anyway. If I destroy it I just rebuild it and start over. It's my learning tool and I don't have to mess with other OS's on it. (I don't throw old parts away.) I made the following this time: / = 1.2 Gb /usr = 400 Mb /home and swap files on the rest of the drive space available. Drives include hda = 1.2 Gb hdb = 400 Mb hdc = 212 Mb Should be enough there to do something with. B. B. R_Yeo wrote: On Tue, 28 Dec 1999, Toyswins wrote: I think I discovered the problem. Hinted at it the other message. My / partition ran out of space. It got weird with signing in and some other stuff, so might have something to do with it. A 347 Mb one isn't big enough. I've changed it to 1.2 Gb, and if that doesn't work, nothing will. I've got a 400 and 212 Mb drives as hdb and hdc that hold /usr, /home, swap and so forth. I do not have a direct solution for your problems, but isn't a 1.2Gb partition for / a little too big compared to the other partition? The directories under root are pretty static in terms of size. I would have thought that you would want more space in /usr or /home. (Perhaps someone more knowledgable could chip in here). -- Ronald
Re: [newbie] Root Password Problem
I think I discovered the problem. Hinted at it the other message. My / partition ran out of space. It got weird with signing in and some other stuff, so might have something to do with it. A 347 Mb one isn't big enough. I've changed it to 1.2 Gb, and if that doesn't work, nothing will. I've got a 400 and 212 Mb drives as hdb and hdc that hold /usr, /home, swap and so forth. After I play with it a while and it goes away, I'll take that as the probable cause. B. B. John Aldrich wrote: On Sat, 25 Dec 1999, Toyswins wrote: I did that, and am aware of the difference in capital vice lower case. First thing I thought of, and it worked initially. I figure it's something I did and don't have a clue now what it could have been. The -19 makes sense so I'll go with that. Expert that you are...heh heh. Merry Christmas and go to bed early tonight.you stayed up late last night right? I sure did. New Puppy and all. HmmI'm no expert. :-) Just been playing with linux for almost a year now.. :-) Good luck! I'm not sure what you might have done...check and see if /root still existsif not, that might be the problem... :-) John
Re: [newbie] Root Password Problem
On Sat, 25 Dec 1999, Toyswins wrote: I just started my "experimental" Linux box and discovered that it doesn't like my password. I can go in as my alternate user, and after successfully logging in, type in "su" then the root password and it works just fine. I then changed the root password via passwd logged out and tried again. Still no luck. There was a thread earlier I think about some versions having problems in this area. I'm using Red Hat Linux 6.0, Mandrake 2.2.9-19 mdk, compiled 5/19/99 19:53 GMT. Please tell me this is a problem with my version and to go get something newer. When you do tell me this, (I hope!), where's the best place, (Red Hat Mandrake site?), and which version is stable? By the way, I understand the 2.2.9 but not the -19. What's that for? There's nothing in the HOWTOs I've been able to find on the numbering scheme that far down. Thanks and Merry Christmas to all. Now to put up my home electronic weather station Santa got me..and where was that serial cable? Hmm...have you made sure you're entering it the same way you created it? Keep in mind that upper case and lower case are different in Linux. Windows treats them the same, but Linux sees them differently. As for the -19, the way that was explained to me is that it indicates the "release candidate version." You will have several versions of kernel 2.2.9, with versious "bug fixes" and other "tweaks" but not enough to call it a different kernel version. :-) John
Re: [newbie] Root Password Problem
I did that, and am aware of the difference in capital vice lower case. First thing I thought of, and it worked initially. I figure it's something I did and don't have a clue now what it could have been. The -19 makes sense so I'll go with that. Expert that you are...heh heh. Merry Christmas and go to bed early tonight.you stayed up late last night right? I sure did. New Puppy and all. B. B. John Aldrich wrote: On Sat, 25 Dec 1999, Toyswins wrote: I just started my "experimental" Linux box and discovered that it doesn't like my password. I can go in as my alternate user, and after successfully logging in, type in "su" then the root password and it works just fine. I then changed the root password via passwd logged out and tried again. Still no luck. There was a thread earlier I think about some versions having problems in this area. I'm using Red Hat Linux 6.0, Mandrake 2.2.9-19 mdk, compiled 5/19/99 19:53 GMT. Please tell me this is a problem with my version and to go get something newer. When you do tell me this, (I hope!), where's the best place, (Red Hat Mandrake site?), and which version is stable? By the way, I understand the 2.2.9 but not the -19. What's that for? There's nothing in the HOWTOs I've been able to find on the numbering scheme that far down. Thanks and Merry Christmas to all. Now to put up my home electronic weather station Santa got me..and where was that serial cable? Hmm...have you made sure you're entering it the same way you created it? Keep in mind that upper case and lower case are different in Linux. Windows treats them the same, but Linux sees them differently. As for the -19, the way that was explained to me is that it indicates the "release candidate version." You will have several versions of kernel 2.2.9, with versious "bug fixes" and other "tweaks" but not enough to call it a different kernel version. :-) John
Re: [newbie] Root Password Problem
On Sat, 25 Dec 1999, Toyswins wrote: I did that, and am aware of the difference in capital vice lower case. First thing I thought of, and it worked initially. I figure it's something I did and don't have a clue now what it could have been. The -19 makes sense so I'll go with that. Expert that you are...heh heh. Merry Christmas and go to bed early tonight.you stayed up late last night right? I sure did. New Puppy and all. HmmI'm no expert. :-) Just been playing with linux for almost a year now.. :-) Good luck! I'm not sure what you might have done...check and see if /root still existsif not, that might be the problem... :-) John
Re: [newbie] root and /usr?
On Sat, 27 Nov 1999, drx wrote: If I make / (root) and /usr different partitions on my hard disk, how big do these partitions need to be? DRX / 500-1000MB+ /usr 1500-2500MB+ The bigger the better of course, but you didn't say what you had to work with. The dreaded "install everything" sucks up 1450-1650Mb i can't remeber which right now it's late -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
Re: [newbie] root user unable to access user X server...
Before you run an application in a terminal as root, you need to type: xhost localhost If you close that terminal, you will have to retype it to run apps in another terminal as root. I think you can also add it to .xinitrc to have it executed every session. Richard On Sat, 13 Nov 1999, you wrote: I'm finding that when I'm logged into X as a normal user, and try to run an application in a terminal as the "root" user, I get an error... It will tell me this... Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0 Anyone have an idea of what is causing this Thanks. Anthony Speagle Get FREE voicemail, fax and email at http://voicemail.excite.com Talk online at http://voicechat.excite.com
Re: [newbie] root user unable to access user X server...
On Sat, 13 Nov 1999, you wrote: Before you run an application in a terminal as root, you need to type: xhost localhost If you close that terminal, you will have to retype it to run apps in another terminal as root. I think you can also add it to .xinitrc to have it executed every session. Actually the command is "xhost +localhost" and you should probably run "xhost -localhost" once you're done with whatever app you're running that needs to be done as "root." Oh, yeah...and you have to run it BEFORE you SU to root, otherwise it won't work. John
Re: [newbie] Root Password
On Wed, 22 Sep 1999, Joseph S. Gardner wrote: Some of the other OS's I've worked with (VMS - shudder) allow the administrator to require 2 passwords to access the admin. account. It was very handy to be able to prevent outside forces from guessing logins - in the event of a "break in" the hack didn't already have half of the login sequence. Is there something similar in linux? Sure - you cannot telnet in as root. To "work" remotely, you need a normal user account and then you can su to root. LLaP bero -- Tired of waiting for Windows 2000? STOP WAITING! http://www.ms-windows-2000.com/
RE: [newbie] root kppp problems and begining programer help
On 12-Aug-99 Ty Mixon wrote: 2) This isn't really a Mandrake question, but most of y'all are helpful so . . . I'm taking Computer Science I this semester and will finally begin learning C++. Should have picked up a book long ago, but never did. Anyhow, what I want to know is how do I compile programs under Linux? I think I have everything installed gcc and gcc++ and the libs and (hopefully) the header files. So, supposing I wanted to compile the obligatory beginning program that prints the "Hello world" line, how would I? For a small, simple program in one source code file, you could just type: gcc filename -- for a C program, or g++ filename -- for a C++ program Assuming it compiles with no errors, that produces a binary file called a.out. You should take a look at the documentation for gcc and maybe documentation for make as well. -Tom
Re: [newbie] Root File System Error
At 09:59 AM 8/1/99 -0700, michael wrote: it says.. /dev/hda3contains a filesystem with errors, check forced. after a brief period it then says... /dev/hda3:Unattached inode 371486 /dev/hda3Unexpected inconsistency; Run fsck manually ie: without -a or -p options Got it :) Found the answer on the Usenet. Logged in as root, typed fsck /dev/hda3 said yes to all the fixes, voila it works! - thanks - PS: seems like when clicking on icons in the KDE..nothing happens :-/ ...so you may not, have heard the end of me yet :) -- best regards -michael Michael Chopek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Down to Earth Development Ltd - http://www.d2earth.com/ Website Web Applications Development Extropia Developers Network - http://www.extropia.com/
Re: [newbie] root applications in x
cyberclay wrote: Hey, I'm having trouble running applications that require root privleges in x. After su'ing, execution of say..linuxconf..reports: Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: Also, some GNOME applets (such as cpumemusage_applet) report the same error. It's a security issue. The answer is available in the mailing list archives on the Mandrake website. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] root problem
Reinstall! On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 11:57:53 +0100 "Carsten M. Larsen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I don't know if anyone got this message last night...I had some mailproblemsso here we go again :o) I think I made a rookie mistakeI think I accidently removed the root!! I was messin' around in linuxconf, I got somekinda warning about the root. I thought nothing of it (shame on me, I should be punished, I know :o) and now I can't even SU to root, I can't shutdown, I can't modify the linuxconf againI can't do anything!! Is there any way I can recover the root or get to the linuxconf?? PLEASE help me!! Latest: I´t's possible that I didn't romove the root partition but "just" all the users with root clearence, so no one can SU or log in as root.any suggestions as how to solve this would be greatly appreciated :o) Carsten ___ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.
