Re: [newbie-it] form e filtri

2003-06-01 Per discussione Giuseppe Ferruzzi
* Arwan wrote:
 Sono riuscita a far andare i filtri di procmail!!!
 Incerdibile...

:)

 Due domande: ma formail e' un programma a parte, oppure e' incluso con 
 procmail?

Tutte e due le cose.

 E poi: ho una serie di cartelle, diciamo xx e yy; voglio che procmail le 
 analizzi e prenda i file di xx spediti in un mese preciso (per esempio 
 aprile) e li metta nella cartella 04 xx, poi prenda quelli di yy e faccia lo 
 stesso, mettendoli in 04 yy e cosi' via... se po' fa'?

Si, si può fare. 
Se guardi sul man procmailex c'è un esempio preciso al riguardo.



Ciao, Giuseppe.

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[newbie-it] firma digitale

2003-06-01 Per discussione vroby
Siccome ho notato che molti in questa lista usano i messaggi firmati ed 
essendo a completo digiuno mi potete indicare dove trovare info per 
configurare kmail per la firma digitale ??



Re: [newbie-it] firma digitale

2003-06-01 Per discussione miKe
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Alle 21:43, sabato 31 maggio 2003,  in merito a [newbie-it] firma 
digitale,  vroby   ha scritto:
 Siccome ho notato che molti in questa lista usano i messaggi firmati
 ed essendo a completo digiuno mi potete indicare dove trovare info
 per configurare kmail per la firma digitale ??

kmail non si deve configurare
devi installare gnupg il programma che genera verifica e tratta le 
chiavi di crittazione

sugli AIL  c'è un bel capitolo che parla di gpg / pgp

a quel punto in kmail dovrai solo spuntare le opzioni relative alla voce 
sicurezza

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[newbie-it] Palm Pilot

2003-06-01 Per discussione Luigi Beltramini
salve,

uso la mandrake 9.1 e vorrei, soprattutto con kde, utilizzare il palm.
Ho provato a lanciare il kpilot ma mi dice che /dev/pilot non esiste; come
faccio a far rilevare il palm a linux?
Da centro di controllo non ci sono riuscito

Nb:il cardle e' usb



Re: [newbie-it] Palm Pilot

2003-06-01 Per discussione miKe
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Alle 11:28, domenica 1 giugno 2003,  in merito a [newbie-it] Palm Pilot,  
Luigi Beltramini   ha scritto:
 salve,

 uso la mandrake 9.1 e vorrei, soprattutto con kde, utilizzare il
 palm. Ho provato a lanciare il kpilot ma mi dice che /dev/pilot non
 esiste; come faccio a far rilevare il palm a linux?
 Da centro di controllo non ci sono riuscito

 Nb:il cardle e' usb

non uso il palm ma con obex so che è possibile far dialogare vari 
dispositivi, io lo uso per un cellulare e accede alla memoria con un 
protocollo simile a ftp


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Re: [newbie] Encoding in KDM

2003-06-01 Per discussione Anne Wilson
On Saturday 31 May 2003 11:09 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 On Saturday 31 May 2003 04:43 am, Jure Repinc wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I'm using Mandrake 9.1 with UTF-8 encoding in locale
  settings (/etc/sysconfig/i18l). All is working OK in
  UserDrake and even in KUser. But on KDM screen when loging
  in some of local characters in usernames are displayed
  wrong. There are two strange letters instead of on local
  letter. I guess this is because KDM isn't set to UTF-8
  encoding. How do I change which encoding is used by KDM?
 
  Thanks in advance for your answers!

 I can't help you here Jure, but I can greet you welcome to the
 *soon_to_go_crazy_about_UTF_club*.

 What language do you use ? Can you read the output from a
 command-line ? Can you use the man-pages ? Can you use Acrobat
 Reader ? Can you an so on ?

 Kaj Haulrich.

Try copying the /etc/sysconfig/i18l file to i18I.old, then on the 
active copy try amending the top line to SYSFONTACM=iso15

Anne

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Re: [newbie] Search software

2003-06-01 Per discussione MWafkowski
I believe HTdig comes on the the Mandrake CD...if not google for an htdig
rpm. It is a very powerful search engine. There are a whole BUNCH of others

Regards,
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Linux Software and Things

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Subject: [newbie] Search software


 I have a very sophisticated search software (Copernic) on my MS box.
 Being a sub-novice on Linux I hesitate to mess around with anything less
 than a RPM package.
 Can anyone recommend a RPM  search package, ( if one even exists)?
 TIA,
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Re: Fw: Re: [newbie] collisions reported by ifconfig

2003-06-01 Per discussione Richard Urwin
On Saturday 31 May 2003 2:17 pm, Steve Jeppesen wrote:
 Right, these ARP requests are being directed to my external interface,
 eth0, from the Internet - they are not entering my internal network, but
 I believe this is the excess traffic I see on the cable modem.  I say
 excess, because I was not seeing the data lights (traffic) flash as
 they have been with our old IP number.  But it seems unusual that my IP
 has to tell everybody where to go to find out who or where to be routed
 - mind you, the IP's doing the ARP request do seem to be coming from the
 same IP range, 24.xxx.xxx.xxx, mainly 24.118.xxx.xxx and 24.245.xxx.xxx

IIRC, cable networks often put several subscribers on the same segment. They 
probably aren't addressed to you, ARP requests are broadcast to everybody on 
the segment. It will be other people's modems looking for the ISP gateway and 
vice-versa.

 Seems like I ought to let AT$T (soon to be Comcast, love it when they
 keep selling themselves, third time now) know what is going on and see
 if they think it should be happening.

 What do you think?

It's probably worth asking them, if you can find a tech who understands what 
you're talking about. But I don't think it's anything to worry about.

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Re: [newbie] Encoding in KDM

2003-06-01 Per discussione Anne Wilson
On Saturday 31 May 2003 3:44 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 On Saturday 31 May 2003 03:05 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:

 snip

  Try copying the /etc/sysconfig/i18l file to i18I.old, then
  on the active copy try amending the top line to
  SYSFONTACM=iso15

 /snip

 Thanks Anne, but my i18n file doesn't seem to know how to
 behave. It looks like this :

 LC_TELEPHONE=da_DK.UTF-8
 LC_CTYPE=da_DK.UTF-8
 LANGUAGE=da_DK.UTF-8:da
 LC_MONETARY=da_DK.UTF-8
 LC_ADDRESS=da_DK.UTF-8
 LC_COLLATE=da_DK.UTF-8
 LC_NAME=da_DK.UTF-8
 LC_PAPER=da_DK.UTF-8
 LC_NUMERIC=da_DK.UTF-8
 SYSFONT=lat0-16
 LC_TIME=da_DK.UTF-8
 LC_MEASUREMENT=da_DK.UTF-8
 LANG=da_DK.UTF-8
 LC_MESSAGES=da_DK.UTF-8
 LC_IDENTIFICATION=da_DK.UTF-8

 I wonder if it is possible to edit it somehow, I'm going nuts
 by having my screen cluttered with runes / hieroglyphs or
 whatever those characters are supposed to be.

 Kaj Haulrich.

This is mine:

SYSFONTACM=iso15
LC_TELEPHONE=en_GB
LC_CTYPE=en_GB
LANGUAGE=en_GB:en
LC_MONETARY=en_GB
LC_ADDRESS=en_GB
LC_COLLATE=en_GB
LC_NAME=en_GB
LC_PAPER=en_GB
LC_NUMERIC=en_GB
SYSFONT=lat0-16
LC_TIME=en_GB
LC_MEASUREMENT=en_GB
LANG=en_GB
LC_MESSAGES=en_GB
LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_GB

As for editing, it's worth a try.  If you have saved a renamed copy 
you can get back to where you are without problems, and it might just 
work.

Anne

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Re[5]: [newbie] Support questions

2003-06-01 Per discussione rikona
Hello Richard,

Saturday, May 31, 2003, 1:59:30 AM, you wrote:

RU On Saturday 31 May 2003 3:38 am, rikona wrote:
 I did register, but it still asks for $$ to submit a question. The
 page that says this has a note on the left side saying I have
 registered and don't have to pay, but when I go through the steps it
 still refuses, on the basis that I have no credits. Any ideas?

RU I had the same experience (I've got the download set + club membership) It did 
RU imply that install questions were free, but since I wasn't posting an install 
RU question I would have to have credits.

Very interesting. There is a note on the left side of the page that
says I have registered a PowerPack, and don't need to pay during the
support period. A drop-down listing says that some categories are free
(no *), some one star (*) for buyers of the standard pack, and some
are two (**) for the power pack. I tried a few * and ** categories and
was rejected each time.

Based on your note, however, I tried the 'install' (*) category, and
it seems as though it was accepted. Maybe I'm a poor reader, but it
does not seem consistent with what the page implies.

With luck, I'll get an answer. :-) My 'community/free' questions have
sat there a long time, and nobody has even looked at them.

Thanks for the tip.

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Re[2]: [newbie] Support questions

2003-06-01 Per discussione rikona
Hello Anne,

Saturday, May 31, 2003, 2:34:54 AM, you wrote:

 I did register, but it still asks for $$ to submit a question. The
 page that says this has a note on the left side saying I have
 registered and don't have to pay, but when I go through the steps
 it still refuses, on the basis that I have no credits. Any ideas?
 Any way to contact someone at MD to see how to make this work? I've
 asked this as an unpaid question, but according to the 'status' the
 message has never been looked at. Sigh

AW I had the same problem with 9.0, and didn't resolve it, I'm afraid.

It seems as though the question has to be an 'install' question,
despite what the page says. :-)

AW Now, with hindsight, I would try going to the forum pages and asking 
AW there.  Hopefully someone knowledgeable will see it and help you.

I have had a couple of questions sit there for a looog time, and
nobody has even looked at them. I would suggest that it is a waste of
time to post a non-paid question there.

I appreciate your help.

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Re: [newbie] Encoding in KDM

2003-06-01 Per discussione Kaj Haulrich
On Saturday 31 May 2003 05:43 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:

snip
 As for editing, it's worth a try.  If you have saved a
 renamed copy you can get back to where you are without
 problems, and it might just work.

 Anne
/snip

Thanks again Anne ! - I'll try it.

Kaj Haulrich.
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[newbie] Mandrake Software Services updates and getting booted from a Mirror Site

2003-06-01 Per discussione The Other
05/31/03

Hello All,   No problem here, just an bit of good news.  Was suggested 
that I post this to the list for your encouragement and edification.  
Or whatever floats your boat!:)

[prev]---

Last night I got Mandrake set up to do Security, Bug Fixes, and Normal 
updates.  I then asked for everything to be installed, something like 
258MB of files.  I'm on a 56Kbs modem, so I went to bed.

This morning it looks like the mirror site had booted me just before 
the updates would have finished.  I was wondering if Mandrake had the 
sense to be able to find the files that had been downloaded so they 
could be installed, or if it was dumb and would re-download the 
files.

Mandrake has sense.  I'm going through the Mandrake Update panel and 
selecting each file to be updated singly.  If the file is on my 
computer somewhere, Mandrake is performing the update.  What a 
relief.  I was afraid I'd lost 9+ hours of downloading.

I was nearly through the Ghostscript update (a big file) when I was 
bumped.  If Mandrake is really smart, it should continue the download 
from the place where it left off.  I don't have time this morning to 
find out, but when I get back from work later today we'll see.

[end prev]

Haven't gone to work yet (catch up day), so here's the final update on 
this.

Mandrake is smart; but not a genius.  I had to download the entire 
Ghostscript file again.  It's OK.  The download and upgrade went 
smoothly.

The Penguin Liberation Front (PLF) has an excellent FAQ at 
http://plf.zarb.org/faq.html

  On that page take the link to 'James Robinson's urpmi  documentation 
(English)' and read/print it.  Section 3 goes over the 
commands/tools, and Section 4 is worth it's weight in gold telling 
you were to find the configuration files and what's in them.  

The Other

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Re: [newbie] BlueYonder

2003-06-01 Per discussione Charlie
quoting Len Lawrence's missive of Friday 30 May 2003 11:19 pm:
whack

 All that is very encouraging.

  Mandrake is smarter than any version of Windows, more configurable after
  the fact, and you can count on the people here to help more than you ever
  could any Windows forum/list/user news group. Right?

 Right on.

  Just as an aside that 2.0MB service seems to be about equivalent to what
  my ISP here calls Shaw Lite which denotes a lower bandwidth service
  roughly equal to what's available from the phone company for aDSL at the
  same (roughly +/- $5) price of CDN$29.95 per month. 1.5 MB download, 756
  KB upload speeds. The regular cable or Shaw High Speed Internet is
  rated at 8.0 MB down and 1.5 MB up. The cost is CDN$42.95 per month, or
  that plus digital cable for CDN$89.95. One must purchase the set top
  digital cable box for an additional CDN$89.95 for that though. Or (barf!)
  rent it monthly.
 
  I'm only comparing prices etc for the simple reason that I think you poor
  benighted souls in the U.K. pay far too much for service.

 Amongst other things.

  I'm also wondering when the provider here will start bundling telephone
  service as well. g I hope some of this helps you.

 It sure does Charlie.  Will go right ahead and order the service.  Thanks
 for your help, and thanks to the other posters as well.

I am certain that you'll enjoy 'broadband' Len. I get slightly aggravated when 
I have to help someone with a dial up connection these days.

Now about those other systems that you plan to leave on dial up.connection 
sharing, a cheap box running a firewall as a gateway/router with a few cables 
and a switch/hub plus investing a bit of time. :-) 

Are you sure you can restrain yourself _that much?_

maniacal laughter

Happy to have helped.

Regards;
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[newbie] Downloading MD ISOs

2003-06-01 Per discussione KVPSTAFF
I have tried to download the 2nd CD  iso of 9.1

on the ftp server, of all the mirros..
the file size says: 649.72mg

but after you finish downloading the file...
the size is not that, BUT:667.723mg

after, the which...when i try to burn the file..
I've messed up 4 CD's in trying to get it on the CD.
it gets half-way thru...and spits out the CD and gives me an error
about incorrect size or something like that.

I'm using Nero 5.5   I've already burned the first CD...
with no problem...why am i having such a hard time with the 2nd iso?

HEL

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[newbie] Kmail

2003-06-01 Per discussione Chris
Where or how does Kmail store addresses you've used in the past?  I'm not 
refering to the address book, but where if I start a new message and I hit 
'a' all the 'a' addressees I've used in the past dropdown in a window.  The 
reason I'm asking is that I have two lines of the same addressees however one 
somehow got an extra character added and I'd like to remove it.

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Re: [newbie] Downloading MD ISOs

2003-06-01 Per discussione Joan Tur
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Es Dissabte 31 Maig 2003 18:37, en KVPSTAFF va escriure:
 I have tried to download the 2nd CD  iso of 9.1

 on the ftp server, of all the mirros..
 the file size says: 649.72mg

 but after you finish downloading the file...
 the size is not that, BUT:667.723mg
Try downloading it from a different ftp.

They are 650MB, so they fit in a 74' CD.  Remember that 1 MB are 1.024KB (and 
1 KB are 1024B)  ;)

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Re: [newbie] DVD doesn't work (Mandrake 9.1)

2003-06-01 Per discussione Rob Blomquist

 Is  something wrong with libdvdcss? where can I get the latest verion of
 libdvdcss ?

 I am unable to run dvd through xine or mplayer either.

Based on what you told us, I would suggest that you got a newer version of 
libdvdcss. The source for DVD packages most of us use is PLF via urpmi. You 
can configure urpmi for it at Easy Urpmi, 
http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php.

Rob

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Re: [newbie] default browser?

2003-06-01 Per discussione eric huff
Where are you trying to launch from? (ie kmail, directory, etc)

Where are you setting the default? (i have had flaky stickiness of file 
ass's in kde, but they seemed to stick better from the kde control center 
than right clicking on the file itself. don't know why...)

Not sure what exactly the prob is, but you might try opera %u wherever it 
is you are setting it. The %u sends the url instead of directing it to a 
tmp file.  I've used dillo and mozilla for the default browers at times, 
and both worked well with the %u arg.

HTH,
eric

On Sat May 31 2003 01:42 am, Jonathan Dlouhy wrote:
 When I set my file associations to use a default browser other than
 konqueror I always get this in the address along with a message could
 not open file. Is there somethign I need to add when using Opera that
 will pull up the url instead of this mess:

 /root/.kde/share/apps/kfmexec/tmp/27620.0.modules.php

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Re: [newbie] Kmail

2003-06-01 Per discussione eric huff
~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc

I find myself editing it by hand every so often.  Too bad you can't just 
delete from the pulldown...

On Sat May 31 2003 09:52 am, Chris wrote:
 Where or how does Kmail store addresses you've used in the past?  I'm
 not refering to the address book, but where if I start a new message and
 I hit 'a' all the 'a' addressees I've used in the past dropdown in a
 window.  The reason I'm asking is that I have two lines of the same
 addressees however one somehow got an extra character added and I'd like
 to remove it.


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[newbie] Printer config file question

2003-06-01 Per discussione rikona
Hello,

I finally got the network printer to work! A couple of questions
remain:

(1) The cupsd.conf file has an entry at the end 'ServerName
192.168.xxx.xxx'. Does this mean that I have to set the MD box to this
address? I now use DHCP for addresses, and they do vary.

(2) During setup, there was a dire warning about sending clear-text
passwords across the net when requesting printing, and being able to
read the pw with a simple command. Is there a better way to set up
printing to avoid this vulnerability?

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[newbie] HELP!

2003-06-01 Per discussione Thomas Williams
I apologize for the scream, but I have a serious problem. I ran updates on all of the 
KDE stuff. Everything seemed to be fine until after I rebooted once. Now, according to 
Gkrellm the cpu usage is up to 99% and the number of users is 0. To make matters worse 
slowly as it sits here something is eating the diskspace, I'm not sure what. I thought 
perhaps that it was .xsession-err because it was a large size, but when I deleted it 
the diskspace still kept going away and the file didn't return. What is going on? Why 
is it that I can't seem to be do the updates without something going wrong?

Tom

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[newbie] ssh

2003-06-01 Per discussione RichardA
I seem to remember ssh Just Worked when I used it before, but this time
I got 'Connection refused'.

So I generated keys, put both host and remote public keys in
'authorised_keys', and this happens:

---
[EMAIL PROTECTED] .ssh]$ ssh -vv drina
OpenSSH_3.4p1, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090607f
debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
debug1: Applying options for *
debug1: Rhosts Authentication disabled, originating port will not be
trusted. debug1: ssh_connect: needpriv 0
debug1: Connecting to drina [192.168.1.3] port 22.
ssh: connect to address 192.168.1.3 port 22: Connection refused
---

I don't like that RHosts line, but I think it's turned off in
/etc/ssh/ssh_config. I also turned off CheckHostIP, because I haven't
got a known_hosts file. What I do have is these:

~/.ssh/authorised_keys
~/.ssh/id_rsa
~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub

Each has permissions -rw- --- ---

What am I missing?

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[newbie] mozilla flash (again)

2003-06-01 Per discussione barting
I'm sorry to get back to the Mozilla plugin thing; I know it has been discussed before, and I tried to use the information in that discussion, but i just can't get it working. :-( Help?

I downloaded and installed the swfdec-mozilla rpm without problems. No flash however when browsing. (Not sure what this rpm does in fact).

Then I downloaded install_flash_player_6_linux.tar.gz. When I tried to run the installer the first time, it said: NOTE: ttfonts and urwfonts needed. So I installed ttfonts-1.0-9.noarch.rpm and urw-fonts-2.0-29.noarch.rpm. 
When I retry the flash-installer the note about the fonts has gone. The installation completes without further messages, but still no flash in mozilla.

About: Plug-ins in Mozilla says:

Shockwave Flash

   File name: libmozswfdec.so
   Shockwave Flash 6.0 animation viewer handled by Swfdec-0.2.1. Plays
   SWF animations, commonly known as Macromedia® Flash®.
   This is alpha software. It will probably behave in many situations,
   but may also ride your motorcycle, drink all your milk, or use your
   computer to browse porn. Comments, feature requests, and patches are
   welcome.
   See http://swfdec.sourceforge.net/ for information.

   Flash, Shockwave, and Macromedia are trademarks of Macromedia, Inc.
   Swfdec is not affiliated with Macromedia, Inc.
MIME Type   Description SuffixesEnabled
application/x-shockwave-flash   Shockwave Flash swf Yes
Shockwave Flash

   File name: libflashplayer.so
   Shockwave Flash 6.0 r79
MIME Type   Description SuffixesEnabled
application/x-shockwave-flash   Shockwave Flash swf Yes
application/futuresplashFutureSplash Player spl Yes
AND I also followed the instructions on mozdev.org (copying files to the plugins-dir etc.).
I have libflashplayer.so, libnullplugin.so and a symlink to libjavaplugin_oji.so in /usr/lib/mozilla-1.3.1/plugins, and flashplayer.xpt (a.o.) in /usr/lib/mozilla-1.3.1/components. 
And libflashplayer.so and flashplayer.xpt in /home/barting/.mozilla/plugins.

Can't think of anything else to do...

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[newbie] File viewer (like QuickView for Win)?

2003-06-01 Per discussione rikona
Hello,

Is there a file viewer for MD, perhaps similar to QuickView for
Windows, that allows one to browse dir trees  files, and can display
the files (without opening them) as you scroll through them?

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Re: [newbie] HELP!

2003-06-01 Per discussione Thomas Williams
On Sat, 31 May 2003 14:27:12 -0400
Thomas Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I apologize for the scream, but I have a serious problem. I ran updates on all of 
 the KDE stuff. Everything seemed to be fine until after I rebooted once. Now, 
 according to Gkrellm the cpu usage is up to 99% and the number of users is 0. To 
 make matters worse slowly as it sits here something is eating the diskspace, I'm not 
 sure what. I thought perhaps that it was .xsession-err because it was a large size, 
 but when I deleted it the diskspace still kept going away and the file didn't 
 return. What is going on? Why is it that I can't seem to be do the updates without 
 something going wrong?
 
 Tom
 
 

Some things to add on about this, it appears that it really is the .xsession-errors as 
when I open it I see that it keeps getting bigger and bigger. I suspect that perhaps 
why it doesn't seem to help by deleting it is that I'm not really deleting it but 
that's just a guess. Anyway, here's the problem it keeps saying over and over:
QMenuData::removeItem: Index -1 out of range

So how do I fix this? I can't really run an xsession for long like this. In the matter 
of about 20 minutes it fills up the entire /home partition, all 5.6 gigs worth. Yeah, 
I know I should get a newer machine and larger hd and MDK 9.1 but I really don't have 
the money for it right now.

Please someone tell me how to fix this. Its gotten way beyond annoying now. Every time 
I try to update it does something like this.

Tom

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Re: [newbie] File viewer (like QuickView for Win)?

2003-06-01 Per discussione Michael D. Spiceland
On Sat, 2003-05-31 at 14:13, rikona wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Is there a file viewer for MD, perhaps similar to QuickView for
 Windows, that allows one to browse dir trees  files, and can display
 the files (without opening them) as you scroll through them?

Nautalus for Gnome allows the icons for text files to show the top of the file as part 
of the icon.

If that's not what you are looking for, both KDE's Konqueror and Gnome's Nautulas 
allow you to set up file type associations to any file type you want and open them in 
a text editor.  There are MANY small text editors to choose from.

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Re: Re[2]: [newbie] Support questions

2003-06-01 Per discussione Derek Jennings
On Saturday 31 May 2003 3:31 am, rikona wrote:
 Hello Derek,

 Wednesday, May 28, 2003, 1:57:49 AM, you wrote:

 DJ I think ,( but am not sure) that your Powerpack purchase entitles
 DJ you to temporary club membership. Run drakclub as root to register
 DJ and set up the  club urpmi source.

 It seems as though 'box' support is through the 'expert' service. Not
 sure about the club. Ran drakclub as root but 'not found' and 'no
 source' for urpmi. Is this part of 9.0?

No  drakclub was intoduced with 9.1

 DJ Make sure your Mandrake updates are up to date first because there was
 an DJ incompatibility between the way the club download server is
 configured and DJ urpmi.  An updated urpmi fixes it.

 I did update all of 9.0 before this. It seems as though 9.0 is
 disappearing. How would I update to 9.1? Is that a good idea, since
 I've installed quite a lot of stuff, and done a lot of customizing?

Updating to 9.1 is real easy. Just grab a download edition (if you have 
broadband) and reinstall over your 9.0 but do not format your /home partition 
and then you will not lose any of your data or personal configuration. The 
system configuration in the /etc folder would be lost, but if you save your 
old /etc somewhere in your /home you can refer to it later when rebuilding 
your system.

 The alternative is to select 'upgrade' from the 9.1 install CD, but while 
upgrade is a lot more stable than it used to be, a lot of people do not trust 
it and prefer to reinstall.
BTW: The download edition is not inferior to the Powerpack in any way. It is 
the same as the first 3 CDs of the Powerpack, and the applications on the 
other CDs are available on line, or through the Club.



 DJ Club membership is a way for those users who want to show their
 DJ appreciation for the distro to contribute something, and get a few
 DJ benefits  in return.

 I'll probably join after this settles down. :-)

 DJ Make urpmi sources for update, contrib, and plf Then optionally
 DJ make sources for texstar,Club, unsupported/MandrakeClub

 Any suggestions for where these are(the command line?)? I found the
 command line for update, club, and plf, but not the others.

If you look at the file structure of any mirror you will find unsupported 
inside mandrake-devel. Then refer to 'man urpmi.addmedia' to work out the 
command to use.

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Re: [newbie] mozilla flash (again)

2003-06-01 Per discussione Rob Blomquist
On Saturday 31 May 2003 11:54 am, barting wrote:

 About: Plug-ins in Mozilla says:

 Shockwave Flash
snip
 AND I also followed the instructions on mozdev.org (copying files to the
 plugins-dir etc.). I have libflashplayer.so, libnullplugin.so and a
 symlink to libjavaplugin_oji.so in /usr/lib/mozilla-1.3.1/plugins, and
 flashplayer.xpt (a.o.) in /usr/lib/mozilla-1.3.1/components. And
 libflashplayer.so and flashplayer.xpt in
 /home/barting/.mozilla/plugins.

 Can't think of anything else to do...

Don't get hung up about this too much. You are handling this problem in the 
Windows way. Checking what is missing in about: plugins is a fine start, but 
then you need to uploads from Mandrake to cover them. Mandrake is very weird 
about not configuring Moz with the proprietary plugins due to something in 
their philosophy.

Now, my about:plugins states I have Mozplugger, and libnullplugin.so. You need 
these. Open Drakconf/Software Management/RPMDrake, and get mozplugger, 
libnullplugin.so should have come from the installation of Moz. Then you need 
mozilla-flash.

I would say that you should try uninstalling Mozilla with RPMDrake, then 
installing moz, mozplugger, and mozflash with RPMDrake. Then if you want them 
in Konqueror, update Konq's plugins in Konq.

Rob
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Re: [newbie] File viewer (like QuickView for Win)?

2003-06-01 Per discussione Anne Wilson
On Saturday 31 May 2003 8:13 pm, rikona wrote:
 Hello,

 Is there a file viewer for MD, perhaps similar to QuickView for
 Windows, that allows one to browse dir trees  files, and can
 display the files (without opening them) as you scroll through
 them?

Not sure exactly what you want to see, but have you tried Konqueror  
Settings  Configure Konqueror  Previews ?  You can get a thumbnail 
of images, for instance, and text documents hint at opening words.  
HTH

Anne

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[newbie] Mandrake 9.1 Which download

2003-06-01 Per discussione Aron Smith
OK you guys have convinced me I am having my Neighbor download 9.1 for
me (I'm not crazy I got dial-up) . So do  I download the Mandrake
9.1/i586 or the Mandrake9.1/i586 ISO image ? In other words which is
easiest to install?
Am also trying to get said neighbor into Linux. He is a Research
Scientist at HP (Be sneaky convert them whenever you can)
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Re: [newbie] File viewer (like QuickView for Win)?

2003-06-01 Per discussione Derek Jennings
On Saturday 31 May 2003 8:13 pm, rikona wrote:
 Hello,

 Is there a file viewer for MD, perhaps similar to QuickView for
 Windows, that allows one to browse dir trees  files, and can display
 the files (without opening them) as you scroll through them?


In Mandrake 9.1 Konqueror will display previews of many file types as icons 
including text, audio and image files. You can choose the icon size .
If SettingsLoadViewProfileFilePreview is selected another pane appears on 
the right showing a large preview of any icon you select in the left pane.

Not sure how much of that is in konq in 9.0

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Re: [newbie] Downloading MD ISOs

2003-06-01 Per discussione Greg Meyer
On Saturday 31 May 2003 12:37 pm, KVPSTAFF wrote:
 I have tried to download the 2nd CD  iso of 9.1

 on the ftp server, of all the mirros..
 the file size says: 649.72mg

 but after you finish downloading the file...
 the size is not that, BUT:667.723mg

 after, the which...when i try to burn the file..
 I've messed up 4 CD's in trying to get it on the CD.
 it gets half-way thru...and spits out the CD and gives me an error
 about incorrect size or something like that.

 I'm using Nero 5.5   I've already burned the first CD...
 with no problem...why am i having such a hard time with the 2nd iso?

First, it is quite possible that the cd size would show something bigger if it 
is using 1000K per MB instead of the proper 1024.  

Second, to make sure the iso is good before you try to download it again, 
there is a file on the mirror called md5sum.  in there is a checksum from a 
program called md5sum.  You can get a copy of this utility free on the 
Internet and use it against your iso.  then compare the output from your iso 
to the file from the mirro.  If they match, your iso is good.  If they don't, 
you need to get a new copy of the iso.  If you were already running linux, 
there is a utility called rsync which you can use to only download the part 
of the iso that is bad, but I don't think there is a windows version 
available, but I may be wrong.

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RE: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 Which download

2003-06-01 Per discussione Frankie
Get the ISO's, 

much easier to use.


regards

Franki

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Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 Which download


OK you guys have convinced me I am having my Neighbor download 9.1 for
me (I'm not crazy I got dial-up) . So do  I download the Mandrake
9.1/i586 or the Mandrake9.1/i586 ISO image ? In other words which is
easiest to install?
Am also trying to get said neighbor into Linux. He is a Research
Scientist at HP (Be sneaky convert them whenever you can)
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 Which download

2003-06-01 Per discussione Greg Meyer
On Saturday 31 May 2003 03:37 pm, Aron Smith wrote:
 OK you guys have convinced me I am having my Neighbor download 9.1 for
 me (I'm not crazy I got dial-up) . So do  I download the Mandrake
 9.1/i586 or the Mandrake9.1/i586 ISO image ? In other words which is
 easiest to install?
 Am also trying to get said neighbor into Linux. He is a Research
 Scientist at HP (Be sneaky convert them whenever you can)

If you want to make cd's, you need the iso images, there are three of them.  
If you want to make a local mirror to install from hard disk or across a 
network, you could download the whole i586 dist tree.
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Re: [newbie] mozilla flash (again)

2003-06-01 Per discussione barting
Thanks. I found Mozplugger. Tried installing it without reinstalling 
Mozilla but no go of course - it does appear in the about:plugins, but 
no flash.
So instead of trying to be a smart ass I'll just follow your advice.
More flashy news in a few hours...

Rob Blomquist wrote:

On Saturday 31 May 2003 11:54 am, barting wrote:

 

About: Plug-ins in Mozilla says:
   

 

Shockwave Flash
   

snip
 

AND I also followed the instructions on mozdev.org (copying files to the
plugins-dir etc.). I have libflashplayer.so, libnullplugin.so and a
symlink to libjavaplugin_oji.so in /usr/lib/mozilla-1.3.1/plugins, and
flashplayer.xpt (a.o.) in /usr/lib/mozilla-1.3.1/components. And
libflashplayer.so and flashplayer.xpt in
/home/barting/.mozilla/plugins.
Can't think of anything else to do...
   

Don't get hung up about this too much. You are handling this problem in the 
Windows way. Checking what is missing in about: plugins is a fine start, but 
then you need to uploads from Mandrake to cover them. Mandrake is very weird 
about not configuring Moz with the proprietary plugins due to something in 
their philosophy.

Now, my about:plugins states I have Mozplugger, and libnullplugin.so. You need 
these. Open Drakconf/Software Management/RPMDrake, and get mozplugger, 
libnullplugin.so should have come from the installation of Moz. Then you need 
mozilla-flash.

I would say that you should try uninstalling Mozilla with RPMDrake, then 
installing moz, mozplugger, and mozflash with RPMDrake. Then if you want them 
in Konqueror, update Konq's plugins in Konq.

Rob
 



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Re: [newbie] DVD doesn't work (Mandrake 9.1)

2003-06-01 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2003-05-31 at 16:48, Pradeep Sethi wrote:
 Hi,
 
 When I try to play a DVD through ogle, it seems to read my dvd, but then 
 gives error :

Generous Whack
/Generous Whack

 Is  something wrong with libdvdcss? where can I get the latest verion of 
 libdvdcss ?
 
 I am unable to run dvd through xine or mplayer either.
 
 Thanks in Advance
 
 -Pradeep

Have you tried to update libdvdcss?
(urpmi libdvdcss)

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Dump, dump it and type it out,
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Why lies it here, on public disk
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Re: [newbie] Another real Stupid Question

2003-06-01 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2003-05-31 at 18:32, FemmeFatale wrote:
 At 03:55 PM 5/31/2003 +1000, you wrote:
 Snips Stephens...
 
 Almost as bad as Femme-Fatale using her cup holder for actual
 installations...
 
 
 swear to the gods Stephen you got a death wish...
 FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt

I'm a stickler for punishment! (g)
(Remember, I'm married - can't get any worse punishment than that!)

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Dump, dump it and type it out,
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Why lies it here, on public disk
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Re: [newbie] AWK error message

2003-06-01 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2003-05-31 at 23:44, David Park wrote:
 I have just started receiving this error message when booting and in text console, 
 ¨awk: error while loading shared libraries: awk: unsupported version x fo 
 Verneed record¨. Actual version number changes each time I reboot. Any suggestions 
 as to what might be causing this.  Google only come up with similar questions and 
 that awk is a programming language
 
 Any help appreciated
 
 David

AWK is generally the sound the Black Cockatoos make - have you checked
to see if a large Black Cockatoo has infiltrated your computer? It's
none here in New South Wales that Black Cockatoos have a liking for
linux machines - and hence, sometimes sneak inside and tamper with the
kernel - you can't HEAR them, but the kernel will resound their might
AWK instead.

OK - BAD JOKE.

Have you double checked to see if you have run ldconfig and rebuilt
your lib path cache? As well, you might want to check out your
/etc/ld.so.conf file and make sure that it has the proper lib paths set;
here's mine for example:

/usr/lib
/usr/local/lib
/usr/X11R6/lib
/usr/lib/qt3/lib
/usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.0.0/post
/usr/lib/wine
/usr/lib/mozilla-1.3
/usr/local/netscape
/usr/lib/evolution/1.3
/usr/lib/kde3
/usr/java/lib

(Of course, mine's been modified - I've specifically forced directories
to be searched) - but if you do modify this file, you have to run
ldconfig in a term to rebuild the system lib path cache.

Another thing to look through is your boot up log (you can view it with
the command: dmesg | more)

Might even be a good idea to POST the outcome of the dmesg log -
either by locating it in the /var/log directory, or formatting it like:

dmesg | col -b  dmesg.log

...and then sending it to the group...ya reckon?

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Re: [newbie] What we can do - WAS Bruce Perens' 'The fear waragainst Linux'

2003-06-01 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2003-06-01 at 00:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 01:54:51PM +0200, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
  
  Meanwhile, let's fight back with with their own weapons (FUD) :
  Tell everybody about about the back-doors, spyware, bugs, 
  viruses, trojans etc., etc... in their crappy OS and why we 
  don't need it in any way, manner, shape or form.
 
 Is there someplace on the net where all this stuff is described and collected,
 with actual quotes of sources or references to them?
 
 -- hendrik

You can start with:

www.spywareinfo.com

...then you can go to any antivirus site (well, go to Panda and F-Prot
and Kaspersky) and show them all the stuff that's available for Windows;
then you can go simply to:

www.astalavista.com

...and show them all the stuff for hacking Windows and other Microsoft
products.

It's very easy to build a Horror Show Presentation about any Microsoft
OS and MS IE, MS Outlook and MS Outlook Express.

Even easier to just state that there are more than 82,000 viruses; 13 of
them affect linux/unix - and those 13 live in labs and not in the
wild. Microsoft products account for literally 99% of all viruses
spread. Microsoft products are built to literally allow your Email
client and your browser to install programs and run programs that you do
not even know are running; hence it's easily bent to use as a backdoor.
Microsoft OS's are built in such a way as to literall broadcast
themselves once they're either connected to the internet, or to a
network. And they're not just broadcasting the fact they're there,
they're broadcasting every open port and vulnerability they have.

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Re: [newbie] HELP!

2003-06-01 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2003-06-01 at 05:23, Thomas Williams wrote:
 On Sat, 31 May 2003 14:27:12 -0400
 Thomas Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I apologize for the scream, but I have a serious problem. I ran updates on all of 
  the KDE stuff. Everything seemed to be fine until after I rebooted once. Now, 
  according to Gkrellm the cpu usage is up to 99% and the number of users is 0. To 
  make matters worse slowly as it sits here something is eating the diskspace, I'm 
  not sure what. I thought perhaps that it was .xsession-err because it was a large 
  size, but when I deleted it the diskspace still kept going away and the file 
  didn't return. What is going on? Why is it that I can't seem to be do the updates 
  without something going wrong?
  
  Tom
  
  
 
 Some things to add on about this, it appears that it really is the .xsession-errors 
 as when I open it I see that it keeps getting bigger and bigger. I suspect that 
 perhaps why it doesn't seem to help by deleting it is that I'm not really deleting 
 it but that's just a guess. Anyway, here's the problem it keeps saying over and over:
 QMenuData::removeItem: Index -1 out of range
 
 So how do I fix this? I can't really run an xsession for long like this. In the 
 matter of about 20 minutes it fills up the entire /home partition, all 5.6 gigs 
 worth. Yeah, I know I should get a newer machine and larger hd and MDK 9.1 but I 
 really don't have the money for it right now.
 
 Please someone tell me how to fix this. Its gotten way beyond annoying now. Every 
 time I try to update it does something like this.
 
 Tom

First, I would suggest going into runlevel 3 - a console login: edit
your /etc/inittab and where you find:

id:5:initdefault:

-change to-

id:3:initdefault:

...and reboot. This will still be in full multi-user mode, but without
the graphical login.

You can check disk space with: df -h

Now that you're logged in, you can fire up XWindows with: startx

...see if the errors are still coming up or if your disk space is
disappearing...

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Re: [newbie] AWK error message

2003-06-01 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Sat, 2003-05-31 at 14:39, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 snip Thats funny I have a very old Sulphercrest Cockatoo all she says is Cookie 
unless she is P.O.ed then she screams HERE KITTY KITTY

 ( my 18lb Bengal tom leaves the room quickly.)
 
 AWK is generally the sound the Black Cockatoos make - have you checked
 to see if a large Black Cockatoo has infiltrated your computer? It's
 none here in New South Wales that Black Cockatoos have a liking for
 linux machines - and hence, sometimes sneak inside and tamper with the
 kernel - you can't HEAR them, but the kernel will resound their might
 AWK instead.
 
 OK - BAD JOKE.
 
 Have you double checked to see if you have run ldconfig and rebuilt
 your lib path cache? As well, you might want to check out your
 /etc/ld.so.conf file and make sure that it has the proper lib paths set;
 here's mine for example:
 
 /usr/lib
 /usr/local/lib
 /usr/X11R6/lib
 /usr/lib/qt3/lib
 /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.0.0/post
 /usr/lib/wine
 /usr/lib/mozilla-1.3
 /usr/local/netscape
 /usr/lib/evolution/1.3
 /usr/lib/kde3
 /usr/java/lib
 
 (Of course, mine's been modified - I've specifically forced directories
 to be searched) - but if you do modify this file, you have to run
 ldconfig in a term to rebuild the system lib path cache.
 
 Another thing to look through is your boot up log (you can view it with
 the command: dmesg | more)
 
 Might even be a good idea to POST the outcome of the dmesg log -
 either by locating it in the /var/log directory, or formatting it like:
 
 dmesg | col -b  dmesg.log
 
 ...and then sending it to the group...ya reckon?
-- 
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Re: Fw: Re: [newbie] collisions reported by ifconfig

2003-06-01 Per discussione FemmeFatale
At 04:33 PM 5/31/2003 +0100, you wrote:
On Saturday 31 May 2003 2:17 pm, Steve Jeppesen wrote:
 Right, these ARP requests are being directed to my external interface,
 eth0, from the Internet - they are not entering my internal network, but
 I believe this is the excess traffic I see on the cable modem.  I say
 excess, because I was not seeing the data lights (traffic) flash as
 they have been with our old IP number.  But it seems unusual that my IP
 has to tell everybody where to go to find out who or where to be routed
 - mind you, the IP's doing the ARP request do seem to be coming from the
 same IP range, 24.xxx.xxx.xxx, mainly 24.118.xxx.xxx and 24.245.xxx.xxx
--
Richard Urwin
In all honesty unless you are seriously paranoid, ignore it.  Rich is 
correct:  Cable uses broadcast requests that are sent out ever few seconds 
to all comps on the Node that your neighbourhood is being served by thru 
the ISP you use.  Think of it as party line telephones.  You can tap into 
any such request  figure out what everyone on the node is looking at on 
their comp.  Some will be SETI requests, others for porn sites, still 
others MSN / ICQ chats...etc.  Ethereal  proggies like it will just tell 
you what is being broadcast and unless set correctly, won't give you 
destination IP's.  Or it will give a destination IP and you can figure out 
which house it is from there.  Its one of the downfalls of cable if you're 
a smart dooby with time on your hands:  Its not nearly as difficult to 
crack as DSL can be with teh correct protocols in place.  Not to say DSL is 
secure but its better in some ways.

Oh  Btw:  the IP's doing the ARP request do seem to be coming from the
 same IP range, 24.xxx.xxx.xxx, mainly 24.118.xxx.xxx and 
24.245.xxx.xxx.  Thats your NODE for your neighbourhood.  the 24.xxx is 
the actuall ISP's Block Node (given from their Tier 2 or 3 connection, 
usually AT  T or MetroNet or UUNet).  24.118.xxx is the block node for 
very likely your geographic regional area. IE: Langley, Virginia.  The next 
octet is your specic Local geo area IN Langley itself.  IE: a suburb inside 
Langley.  The last 3 are specific to your neighbourhood, with the last 1-2 
numbers being for your house + the next one beside you usually.  Sometimes 
just your own house gets 2 last numbers cause no one beside you has cable.

FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt

Good Decisions Your boss Made:
We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
character from Peanuts.
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Re: [newbie] Downloading MD ISOs

2003-06-01 Per discussione FemmeFatale
At 04:12 PM 5/31/2003 -0400, you wrote:
Snips some catnip for hte poor wiskerless kitty wandering around hte list

Second, to make sure the iso is good before you try to download it again,
there is a file on the mirror called md5sum.  in there is a checksum from a
program called md5sum.  You can get a copy of this utility free on the
Internet and use it against your iso.  then compare the output from your iso
to the file from the mirro.  If they match, your iso is good.  If they don't,
you need to get a new copy of the iso.  If you were already running linux,
there is a utility called rsync which you can use to only download the part
of the iso that is bad, but I don't think there is a windows version
available, but I may be wrong.
--
Greg
Lets skip the 1024=1000 KB discussion  not confuse the poor sod.

Seeing as you're on windows get MD5Summer.  Or email me offlist  I'll send 
it do you.  Its fast  stupidly simple to use.   I'm sure you know how to 
use google to find it if need be.

Nero isn't hard to use, read the help files for Nero.  They are in plain 
english  useful to read for burning ISO's with step by step 
instructions.  Lastly, use CDRW's.  Save the environment  your money.  YOu 
can then reburn over top these cd's later should you wish to upgrade to MDK 
9.2.

-
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Good Decisions Your boss Made:
We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
character from Peanuts.
- Source: Dilbert



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RE: [newbie] Downloading MD ISOs

2003-06-01 Per discussione KVPSTAFF
geez...it looks to me,,,if I'm using md5sum.exe correctly..
that the number in the file called: md5sums.91.asc
is not the same as the file downloaded...
this is ridiculous...that mandrake would allow mirrors
that would mess up there files...like this...
geez, doesn't mandrake check these mirrors at all?
to make sure things like this doesn't happen?
boy you mean I have to keep downloading the same file off numerous
mirrors till one checks out...finally...
that's stupid.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Greg Meyer
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 4:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Downloading MD ISOs


On Saturday 31 May 2003 12:37 pm, KVPSTAFF wrote:
 I have tried to download the 2nd CD  iso of 9.1

 on the ftp server, of all the mirros..
 the file size says: 649.72mg

 but after you finish downloading the file...
 the size is not that, BUT:667.723mg

 after, the which...when i try to burn the file..
 I've messed up 4 CD's in trying to get it on the CD.
 it gets half-way thru...and spits out the CD and gives me an error
 about incorrect size or something like that.

 I'm using Nero 5.5   I've already burned the first CD...
 with no problem...why am i having such a hard time with the 2nd iso?

First, it is quite possible that the cd size would show something bigger if
it
is using 1000K per MB instead of the proper 1024.

Second, to make sure the iso is good before you try to download it again,
there is a file on the mirror called md5sum.  in there is a checksum from a
program called md5sum.  You can get a copy of this utility free on the
Internet and use it against your iso.  then compare the output from your iso
to the file from the mirro.  If they match, your iso is good.  If they
don't,
you need to get a new copy of the iso.  If you were already running linux,
there is a utility called rsync which you can use to only download the part
of the iso that is bad, but I don't think there is a windows version
available, but I may be wrong.

--
Greg




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Re: [newbie] What we can do - WAS Bruce Perens' 'The fear war against Linux'

2003-06-01 Per discussione FemmeFatale
At 07:47 AM 6/1/2003 +1000, you wrote:
Snips Stephens beard

It's very easy to build a Horror Show Presentation about any Microsoft
OS and MS IE, MS Outlook and MS Outlook Express.
Even easier to just state that there are more than 82,000 viruses; 13 of
them affect linux/unix - and those 13 live in labs and not in the
wild.
Perhaps we aren't so safe as we think?

http://www.securityfocus.net/infocus/1698
-
FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt
Good Decisions Your boss Made:
We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
character from Peanuts.
- Source: Dilbert



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RE: [newbie] Downloading MD ISOs

2003-06-01 Per discussione KVPSTAFF
I already KNOW how to use nero correctly...I did the first CD fine...and
without
any problems at all...it's just the stupid 2nd cd iso...i'm having problems
with...
and yes i'm using a CDRW the last couple of times...sick of wasting cd-r's

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of FemmeFatale
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 6:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Downloading MD ISOs


At 04:12 PM 5/31/2003 -0400, you wrote:
Snips some catnip for hte poor wiskerless kitty wandering around hte list

Second, to make sure the iso is good before you try to download it again,
there is a file on the mirror called md5sum.  in there is a checksum from a
program called md5sum.  You can get a copy of this utility free on the
Internet and use it against your iso.  then compare the output from your
iso
to the file from the mirro.  If they match, your iso is good.  If they
don't,
you need to get a new copy of the iso.  If you were already running linux,
there is a utility called rsync which you can use to only download the part
of the iso that is bad, but I don't think there is a windows version
available, but I may be wrong.

--
Greg

Lets skip the 1024=1000 KB discussion  not confuse the poor sod.

Seeing as you're on windows get MD5Summer.  Or email me offlist  I'll send
it do you.  Its fast  stupidly simple to use.   I'm sure you know how to
use google to find it if need be.

Nero isn't hard to use, read the help files for Nero.  They are in plain
english  useful to read for burning ISO's with step by step
instructions.  Lastly, use CDRW's.  Save the environment  your money.  YOu
can then reburn over top these cd's later should you wish to upgrade to MDK
9.2.

-
FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt

Good Decisions Your boss Made:
We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
character from Peanuts.

- Source: Dilbert





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RE: [newbie] Downloading MD ISOs

2003-06-01 Per discussione KVPSTAFF
I downloaded md5sum.exe...but it looks as if md5summer is still not
reporting
correctly , from what info is isted on their site, so i didn't bother to
download it.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of FemmeFatale
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 6:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Downloading MD ISOs


At 04:12 PM 5/31/2003 -0400, you wrote:
Snips some catnip for hte poor wiskerless kitty wandering around hte list

Second, to make sure the iso is good before you try to download it again,
there is a file on the mirror called md5sum.  in there is a checksum from a
program called md5sum.  You can get a copy of this utility free on the
Internet and use it against your iso.  then compare the output from your
iso
to the file from the mirro.  If they match, your iso is good.  If they
don't,
you need to get a new copy of the iso.  If you were already running linux,
there is a utility called rsync which you can use to only download the part
of the iso that is bad, but I don't think there is a windows version
available, but I may be wrong.

--
Greg

Lets skip the 1024=1000 KB discussion  not confuse the poor sod.

Seeing as you're on windows get MD5Summer.  Or email me offlist  I'll send
it do you.  Its fast  stupidly simple to use.   I'm sure you know how to
use google to find it if need be.

Nero isn't hard to use, read the help files for Nero.  They are in plain
english  useful to read for burning ISO's with step by step
instructions.  Lastly, use CDRW's.  Save the environment  your money.  YOu
can then reburn over top these cd's later should you wish to upgrade to MDK
9.2.

-
FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt

Good Decisions Your boss Made:
We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
character from Peanuts.

- Source: Dilbert





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Re: [newbie] HELP!

2003-06-01 Per discussione Thomas Williams
On 01 Jun 2003 07:54:28 +1000
Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 First, I would suggest going into runlevel 3 - a console login: edit
 your /etc/inittab and where you find:
 
 id:5:initdefault:
 
 -change to-
 
 id:3:initdefault:
 
 ...and reboot. This will still be in full multi-user mode, but without
 the graphical login.
 
 You can check disk space with: df -h
 
 Now that you're logged in, you can fire up XWindows with: startx
 
 ...see if the errors are still coming up or if your disk space is
 disappearing...
 
well, I used MCC to change the runlevel (I have that back now!) rebooted checked the 
space and after deleting the file .xsession-errors it goes to 9% used. I startx and 
sit there with diskfree and watch it count down the disk space. I look at 
.xsession-errors and its slowly getting bigger. The problem seems to be the error 
message that keeps getting repeated in that file, QMenuData::removeItem Index -1 out 
of range. A further oddity to all of this is that my themes are gone. And I can't seem 
to re-add them. When I select a theme I get Theme does not contain a .themerc nor 
.theme file. Yet, I had rpmdrake install copies of these themes off of the cd's and 
there are folders for them. When I attempt to add them back in I get to the file 
dialog and I go to the folder where they are and it doesn't show a .themerc file even 
though in the filemanager I see one. This just keeps getting weirder and weirder. If 
I'm having this much trouble just revving kde then how does anyone update their whole 
system?

I can only run KDE for short periods of time until the disk gets full.

Tom

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[newbie] OT, For apache users

2003-06-01 Per discussione FemmeFatale


http://www.linuxworld.com/ic_956962_8574_1-3133.html
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Good Decisions Your boss Made:
We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
character from Peanuts.
- Source: Dilbert



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RE: [newbie] Downloading MD ISOs

2003-06-01 Per discussione FemmeFatale
At 06:19 PM 5/31/2003 -0400, you wrote:
I downloaded md5sum.exe...but it looks as if md5summer is still not
reporting
correctly , from what info is isted on their site, so i didn't bother to
download it.
Get mdsummer to make you MD5's from your ISO's.  Create them using MDSummer 
itself.  Then check them with MDSummer when its done.  The MD5's that is 
that it made.  If htey come out OK your ISO's are fine.

if not...then ya something is fubared.  Might even be something on your 
end.  Who knows?

-
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Good Decisions Your boss Made:
We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
character from Peanuts.
- Source: Dilbert



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Re: [newbie] Downloading MD ISOs

2003-06-01 Per discussione Greg Meyer
On Saturday 31 May 2003 06:16 pm, KVPSTAFF wrote:
 geez...it looks to me,,,if I'm using md5sum.exe correctly..
 that the number in the file called: md5sums.91.asc
 is not the same as the file downloaded...
 this is ridiculous...that mandrake would allow mirrors
 that would mess up there files...like this...
 geez, doesn't mandrake check these mirrors at all?
 to make sure things like this doesn't happen?
 boy you mean I have to keep downloading the same file off numerous
 mirrors till one checks out...finally...
 that's stupid.

It might not be the mirror, but the download.  And Mandrake does not check the 
mirrors (except it's primary) because they are public mirrors and anyone can 
mirror it because it is GPL software.  They have absolutely no control over 
any of those machines.
-- 
Greg


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[newbie] One last CF reader question . . .

2003-06-01 Per discussione Todd Slater
I can't buy the SanDisk reader I referred to earlier because I need to
buy this with an amazon.com gift certificate and I can't buy anything
offered through Office Depot :(. 

Anyway, I found a reader offered by SimpleTech that says its mass
storage compliant. I can't find any reports about this particular reader
and linux. Does mass storage compliant = linux compatible?

I just wonder how many sales are lost because the vendor fails to put
linux compatible on the label.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B633DU/104-5106355-6343919?v=glanceme=ATVPDKIKX0DERst=electronics


Todd

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Re: [newbie] Downloading MD ISOs

2003-06-01 Per discussione Dennis Myers
On Saturday 31 May 2003 05:16 pm, KVPSTAFF wrote:
 geez...it looks to me,,,if I'm using md5sum.exe correctly..
 that the number in the file called: md5sums.91.asc
 is not the same as the file downloaded...
 this is ridiculous...that mandrake would allow mirrors
 that would mess up there files...like this...
 geez, doesn't mandrake check these mirrors at all?
 to make sure things like this doesn't happen?
 boy you mean I have to keep downloading the same file off numerous
 mirrors till one checks out...finally...
 that's stupid.

Not,  happens all the time, somebody dinks with the mirror or  a ftp transfer 
gets fubared, that is why all of the iso.s and a lot of the security rpms 
have md5sums. So you can check em and make sure the d/l worked correctly. 
It doesn't happen that often, but it does happen. Try a different mirror or 
the same one with a new d/l.

-- 
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Re: Fw: Re: [newbie] collisions reported by ifconfig

2003-06-01 Per discussione Steve Jeppesen
On Sat, 31 May 2003 16:03:41 -0600
FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At 04:33 PM 5/31/2003 +0100, you wrote:
 On Saturday 31 May 2003 2:17 pm, Steve Jeppesen wrote:
   Right, these ARP requests are being directed to my external
   interface, eth0, from the Internet - they are not entering my
   internal network, but I believe this is the excess traffic I see
   on the cable modem.  I sayexcess, because I was not seeing the
   data lights (traffic) flash as they have been with our old IP
   number.  But it seems unusual that my IP has to tell everybody
   where to go to find out who or where to be routed- mind you, the
   IP's doing the ARP request do seem to be coming from the same IP
   range, 24.xxx.xxx.xxx, mainly 24.118.xxx.xxx and 24.245.xxx.xxx
 
 --
 Richard Urwin
 
 In all honesty unless you are seriously paranoid, ignore it.  Rich is 
 correct:  Cable uses broadcast requests that are sent out ever few
 seconds to all comps on the Node that your neighbourhood is being
 served by thru the ISP you use.  Think of it as party line telephones.
  You can tap into 
 any such request  figure out what everyone on the node is looking at
 on their comp.  Some will be SETI requests, others for porn sites,
 still others MSN / ICQ chats...etc.  Ethereal  proggies like it will
 just tell you what is being broadcast and unless set correctly, won't
 give you destination IP's.  Or it will give a destination IP and you
 can figure out which house it is from there.  Its one of the downfalls
 of cable if you're a smart dooby with time on your hands:  Its not
 nearly as difficult to crack as DSL can be with teh correct protocols
 in place.  Not to say DSL is secure but its better in some ways.
 
 Oh  Btw:  the IP's doing the ARP request do seem to be coming from
 the
   same IP range, 24.xxx.xxx.xxx, mainly 24.118.xxx.xxx and 
 24.245.xxx.xxx.  Thats your NODE for your neighbourhood.  the 24.xxx
 is the actuall ISP's Block Node (given from their Tier 2 or 3
 connection, usually AT  T or MetroNet or UUNet).  24.118.xxx is the
 block node for very likely your geographic regional area. IE: Langley,
 Virginia.  The next octet is your specic Local geo area IN Langley
 itself.  IE: a suburb inside Langley.  The last 3 are specific to your
 neighbourhood, with the last 1-2 numbers being for your house + the
 next one beside you usually.  Sometimes just your own house gets 2
 last numbers cause no one beside you has cable.

Yeah, I thought it was no big deal.  But at one time (with my old IP) I
was able to look up at the cable modem and see how busy the network is
(kinda both, internal and external networks) but now, forget it!

Thanks for the reassurances Richard and FemmeFatale

Steve

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Machines #162480 #191825

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Re: [newbie] What we can do - WAS Bruce Perens' 'The fear war against Linux'

2003-06-01 Per discussione Dennis Myers
On Saturday 31 May 2003 05:17 pm, FemmeFatale wrote:
 At 07:47 AM 6/1/2003 +1000, you wrote:
 Snips Stephens beard
 
 It's very easy to build a Horror Show Presentation about any Microsoft
 OS and MS IE, MS Outlook and MS Outlook Express.
 
 Even easier to just state that there are more than 82,000 viruses; 13 of
 them affect linux/unix - and those 13 live in labs and not in the
 wild.

 Perhaps we aren't so safe as we think?

 http://www.securityfocus.net/infocus/1698
 -
 FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt

 Good Decisions Your boss Made:
 We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
 character from Peanuts.

 - Source: Dilbert
Somebody got the latest worm on their M$ windows comp and it mailed itself to 
me and my linux comp. So I saved it to text and opened it to see what it 
looked like.  Couldn't read it cause it was text interpretation of ASCII, 
duh. Anyway, I then checked over my sys and looked at all the logs, nothing 
strange going on. I deleted the text file and email and feel pretty sure that 
the worm didn't turn.  Seems like they have to be able to execute at root 
level to work and linux doesn't allow that unless the keyboard says so.  So 
maybe I'm stupid but I just had to look.  Like in the Abyss  You know I 
had to go.  
-- 
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RE: [newbie] Downloading MD ISOs

2003-06-01 Per discussione KVPSTAFF
Yaho...finall

I decided to take your advice...and downloaded off another
server...i think it was the tux one...and wahooo.finally was able to burn
it correctly...nw i have the 1st and 2nd cd's only one more to do...

thanks

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dennis Myers
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 6:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Downloading MD ISOs


On Saturday 31 May 2003 05:16 pm, KVPSTAFF wrote:
 geez...it looks to me,,,if I'm using md5sum.exe correctly..
 that the number in the file called: md5sums.91.asc
 is not the same as the file downloaded...
 this is ridiculous...that mandrake would allow mirrors
 that would mess up there files...like this...
 geez, doesn't mandrake check these mirrors at all?
 to make sure things like this doesn't happen?
 boy you mean I have to keep downloading the same file off numerous
 mirrors till one checks out...finally...
 that's stupid.

Not,  happens all the time, somebody dinks with the mirror or  a ftp
transfer
gets fubared, that is why all of the iso.s and a lot of the security rpms
have md5sums. So you can check em and make sure the d/l worked correctly.
It doesn't happen that often, but it does happen. Try a different mirror or
the same one with a new d/l.

--
Dennis M. linux user #180842



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RE: [newbie] Downloading MD ISOs

2003-06-01 Per discussione KVPSTAFF
then why do they list them on the mandrake download page...?
they shouldn't list ones that they don't check regularly...
man thats aggravating...even with DSL ...it takes at least
 a good two hours to download each iso.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Greg Meyer
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 6:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Downloading MD ISOs


On Saturday 31 May 2003 06:16 pm, KVPSTAFF wrote:
 geez...it looks to me,,,if I'm using md5sum.exe correctly..
 that the number in the file called: md5sums.91.asc
 is not the same as the file downloaded...
 this is ridiculous...that mandrake would allow mirrors
 that would mess up there files...like this...
 geez, doesn't mandrake check these mirrors at all?
 to make sure things like this doesn't happen?
 boy you mean I have to keep downloading the same file off numerous
 mirrors till one checks out...finally...
 that's stupid.

It might not be the mirror, but the download.  And Mandrake does not check
the
mirrors (except it's primary) because they are public mirrors and anyone can
mirror it because it is GPL software.  They have absolutely no control over
any of those machines.
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RE: [newbie] Downloading MD ISOs

2003-06-01 Per discussione KVPSTAFF
yes i downloade md5summer...seems to work good...
but that still doesn't explain why mandrake lists
mirrors off their download page...if they don't check them first,
to make sure they are offering good files...

I know if it were my company or software...I wouldn't want
people compliaing about that sort of thing...it would
make mandrake look bad...

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 6:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] Downloading MD ISOs


At 06:19 PM 5/31/2003 -0400, you wrote:
I downloaded md5sum.exe...but it looks as if md5summer is still not
reporting
correctly , from what info is isted on their site, so i didn't bother to
download it.

Get mdsummer to make you MD5's from your ISO's.  Create them using MDSummer
itself.  Then check them with MDSummer when its done.  The MD5's that is
that it made.  If htey come out OK your ISO's are fine.

if not...then ya something is fubared.  Might even be something on your
end.  Who knows?

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Good Decisions Your boss Made:
We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
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Re: [newbie] What we can do - WAS Bruce Perens' 'The fear war against Linux'

2003-06-01 Per discussione FemmeFatale
At 06:00 PM 5/31/2003 -0500, you wrote:
snips Dennis enthusiasm to shreds

Somebody got the latest worm on their M$ windows comp and it mailed itself to
me and my linux comp. So I saved it to text and opened it to see what it
looked like.  Couldn't read it cause it was text interpretation of ASCII,
duh. Anyway, I then checked over my sys and looked at all the logs, nothing
strange going on. I deleted the text file and email and feel pretty sure that
the worm didn't turn.  Seems like they have to be able to execute at root
level to work and linux doesn't allow that unless the keyboard says so.  So
maybe I'm stupid but I just had to look.  Like in the Abyss  You know I
had to go.
--
Dennis M. linux user #180842
Read the first article that is linked in in the article I posted.  No i'm 
not saying we're incredibly vulnerable but I am saying it is good to be 
cautiously optimistic  Not stupidly blind to the fact that a *Nix system 
can be compromised.  Its just useful info.

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Re: [newbie] OT, For apache users

2003-06-01 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sat, 31 May 2003 16:26:39 -0600
FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 
 
 
 http://www.linuxworld.com/ic_956962_8574_1-3133.html

thanks! I wonder how long it will take for a patch like this to appear
on the MDK security updates list?

whadda they expect me to compile the new version from scratch? actual
work?!

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 We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
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[newbie]

2003-06-01 Per discussione charles wright
how do you setup a dsl for mandrake linux 9.1

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Re: [newbie] HELP!

2003-06-01 Per discussione Thomas Williams
On Sat, 31 May 2003 18:21:27 -0400
Thomas Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 01 Jun 2003 07:54:28 +1000
 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  First, I would suggest going into runlevel 3 - a console login: edit
  your /etc/inittab and where you find:
  
  id:5:initdefault:
  
  -change to-
  
  id:3:initdefault:
  
  ...and reboot. This will still be in full multi-user mode, but without
  the graphical login.
  
  You can check disk space with: df -h
  
  Now that you're logged in, you can fire up XWindows with: startx
  
  ...see if the errors are still coming up or if your disk space is
  disappearing...
  
 well, I used MCC to change the runlevel (I have that back now!) rebooted checked the 
 space and after deleting the file .xsession-errors it goes to 9% used. I startx and 
 sit there with diskfree and watch it count down the disk space. I look at 
 .xsession-errors and its slowly getting bigger. The problem seems to be the error 
 message that keeps getting repeated in that file, QMenuData::removeItem Index -1 out 
 of range. A further oddity to all of this is that my themes are gone. And I can't 
 seem to re-add them. When I select a theme I get Theme does not contain a .themerc 
 nor .theme file. Yet, I had rpmdrake install copies of these themes off of the cd's 
 and there are folders for them. When I attempt to add them back in I get to the file 
 dialog and I go to the folder where they are and it doesn't show a .themerc file 
 even though in the filemanager I see one. This just keeps getting weirder and 
 weirder. If I'm having this much trouble just revving kde then how does anyone 
 update their whole system?
 
 I can only run KDE for short periods of time until the disk gets full.
 
 Tom
 
 

Aha! The light bulb came on and I figured out how to track down this problem. After 
looking at the process management app I discovered that initializing klipper is the 
problem. It is using up to 93% of the processor and while I can't be 100% certain, I 
believe it is the one outputting those messages to .xsession-errors. So now, the next 
question is, what is wrong with it and how do I fix it?

Tom

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Re: [newbie] great domain name for sale!

2003-06-01 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sat, 31 May 2003 21:52:35 -0400
Marc Oestreicher [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 
   YEP but it may be difficult to top
 http:www.fuckmicrosoft.com

already linked to it!

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Re: [newbie] OT, For apache users

2003-06-01 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sat, 31 May 2003 22:20:26 -0500
Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 Yah, and I worry that with Mandrake being the Apache extranet server
 if I compiled from scratch would that muss up the Mandrake version? 
 Don't really want to take the chance since I have limited time for
 this stuff as it is.

not to discount La Femme's post, but who would go after my pathetic
site?

Security thru obscurity!

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Re: [newbie] DVD doesn't work (Mandrake 9.1)

2003-06-01 Per discussione Rob Blomquist
On Saturday 31 May 2003 12:45 pm, Pradeep Sethi wrote:
 when I do uprmi libdvdcss, it says everything already installed .

 how can I force update to the latest version ?

If you want to force the upgrade, try rpm -Uvh --nodeps libdvdcss

the other thing to try would be to delete libdvdcss by rpm -e --nodeps 
libdvdcss

The graphical way to do this would be to open up drakconf/Software Management/ 
and run rpmDrake to delete libdvdcss, and use rpmDrake to install libdvdcss 
from PLF.

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[newbie] XDMCP and Firewall

2003-06-01 Per discussione Chris Parman
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[newbie] XDMCP and Firewall

2003-06-01 Per discussione Chris Parman
Hello,

I just installed Mandrake 9.0 and setup my ADSL
modem. I have two NIC's and setup internet sharing
with respect to several machines behind my Linux box
(Mandrake 9.0). The problem is when the firewall is
on (With no services to the Outside) and the Security
set to Standard, I cannot use Exceed (On my Windows
box) to login to my Linux box (Mandrake 9.0). If I
turn off the Firewall, then Exceed works fine. My
question is: How can I have both Firewall on and the
ability to use Exceed on the Windows box ? Thank you
in advance for your help.

Best Regards,

Chris Parman 

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Re: [newbie] OT, For apache users

2003-06-01 Per discussione Adolfo Bello
On Sat, 2003-05-31 at 23:55, JoeHill wrote:

 not to discount La Femme's post, but who would go after my pathetic
 site?

A DoS will crash your entire server. In this case, just 400 or 500
connections will make it.
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Re: [newbie] OT, For apache users

2003-06-01 Per discussione JoeHill
On 01 Jun 2003 01:04:24 -0400
Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 A DoS will crash your entire server. In this case, just 400 or 500
 connections will make it.

how can you tell that?
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Re: [newbie] OT, For apache users

2003-06-01 Per discussione JoeHill
On 01 Jun 2003 01:04:24 -0400
Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 
 A DoS will crash your entire server. In this case, just 400 or 500
 connections will make it.

btw, my firewall can handle 20 000 concurrent connections, and it runs
off a floppy...I think Apache builds a better product than that, no?

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Re: [newbie] DSL

2003-06-01 Per discussione Rob Blomquist
On Saturday 31 May 2003 04:55 pm, charles wright wrote:
 how do you setup a dsl for mandrake linux 9.1

Well, that's a little generic for a question, as what sort of DSL connection 
are you planing on?

If you are getting a DSL Modem that links to the computer with a 10Mb LAN 
connection, its as easy as configuring a NIC under linux.

If it is one of those DSL modem cards that one installs on the computer, well, 
that can be a can of worms.

Give us a little more info, and we can help a lot.

Rob

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Re: [newbie] What we can do - WAS Bruce Perens' 'The fear waragainst Linux'

2003-06-01 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2003-06-01 at 08:17, FemmeFatale wrote:

 Perhaps we aren't so safe as we think?
 
 http://www.securityfocus.net/infocus/1698
 -
 FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt

Did you find ONCE in that document the word unix or linux ??

Didn't think so...

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Re: [newbie] HELP!

2003-06-01 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2003-06-01 at 08:21, Thomas Williams wrote:
  
 well, I used MCC to change the runlevel (I have that back now!) rebooted checked the 
 space and after deleting the file .xsession-errors it goes to 9% used. I startx and 
 sit there with diskfree and watch it count down the disk space. I look at 
 .xsession-errors and its slowly getting bigger. The problem seems to be the error 
 message that keeps getting repeated in that file, QMenuData::removeItem Index -1 out 
 of range. A further oddity to all of this is that my themes are gone. And I can't 
 seem to re-add them. When I select a theme I get Theme does not contain a .themerc 
 nor .theme file. Yet, I had rpmdrake install copies of these themes off of the cd's 
 and there are folders for them. When I attempt to add them back in I get to the file 
 dialog and I go to the folder where they are and it doesn't show a .themerc file 
 even though in the filemanager I see one. This just keeps getting weirder and 
 weirder. If I'm having this much trouble just revving kde then how does anyone upd!
ate their whole system?
 
 I can only run KDE for short periods of time until the disk gets full.
 
 Tom

Login as root. Go to your ~/home/yournamegoeshere/ directory and rename
the .kde directory to something else. Logoff as root, login as you
again. See if the problem persists. If the problems persists beyond THIS
stage, then we've got some serious investigation to do. Otherwise, you
can chalk it up to a profile that didn't like the upgrade...(and
actually, when you upgrade KDE, you SHOULD blow out the .kde directory
as there is ALWAYS something that will cause a hose up)

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Re: [newbie] DVD doesn't work (Mandrake 9.1)

2003-06-01 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2003-06-01 at 05:43, Pradeep Sethi wrote:

 When I try to update libdvdcss, it says everything already installed.
 I couldn't find any option in uprmi to force updation.
 
 any ideas ?
 
 Thanks,

In a terminal, you can run the command:

rpm -Uivh --force libdvdcss-bla-bla.rpm

...this will FORCE the installation...

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Re: [newbie] Kmatrix + image

2003-06-01 Per discussione Ricardo Castanho de Oliveira Freitas
On Tuesday 27 May 2003 19:31, Josenildo Marques wrote:

What a place to find an old mate!
Howdja doin' mate?

Gimp'ing around yet? That's good!

 Here's a cool link provided by Stephen Kuhn.
 http://www.desktop-linux.net/kmatrix.htm
 The Read me text says it was compiled on M 9.0. I followed the instructions
 and it is working properly on M 9.1.
 I hope you'll enjoy the image, made after a little bit of Gimp'ing.

Enjoyed the Gimp art! TKS!

 JM

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Re: [newbie] What we can do - WAS Bruce Perens' 'The fear war against Linux'

2003-06-01 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2003-06-01 at 13:09, Dennis Myers wrote:

 Sorry didn't mean to imply what you were showing us was trivial. Far from it, 
 I run snort, a firewall and check syslogs frequently.  We do have a bit less 
 to worry about for now though. But one day the numbers will justify crackers 
 attempting on a regular basis, to access our comps.  Intrusion detection and 
 antivirus for linux will be the norm.  I do agree with you sorry if I sounded 
 otherwise. 

Just y'all keep in mind THIS tidbit:

You and I - right NOW, can write horribly damaging macros or viruses for
Microsoft Windows computers - in less than 15 minutes - AND send them
out to the world and have this hit mainstream in less than 12 hours,
causing lots of damage.

For you and I to write/engineer a trojan or script for linux, it's
going to take a hell of a lot of study and thinking to get it done; as
per a mate of mine in corporate security it would take a good number
of hours, a hell of a lot of testing prior to it being released - and
it wouldn't be anything to do with email, it would be an unknown attack
that would have to spread out from KNOWN unix and linux boxes.

...so, with the mindset of script kiddies and the virus writers, it's
too much work, too much bother.

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Re: [newbie] DVD doesn't work (Mandrake 9.1)

2003-06-01 Per discussione Anne Wilson
On Saturday 31 May 2003 8:45 pm, Pradeep Sethi wrote:
 when I do uprmi libdvdcss, it says everything already installed .

 how can I force update to the latest version ?

 Thanks,

 Pradeep

If this is 9.0, there was an errata on that message.  You could try 
googling for  everything already installed , or searching list 
archives.

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Re: [newbie] Downloading MD ISOs

2003-06-01 Per discussione Anne Wilson
On Saturday 31 May 2003 11:18 pm, KVPSTAFF wrote:
 I already KNOW how to use nero correctly...I did the first CD
 fine...and without
 any problems at all...it's just the stupid 2nd cd iso...i'm having
 problems with...
 and yes i'm using a CDRW the last couple of times...sick of wasting
 cd-r's

You do know to burn cd-rws slower than cd-rs, don't you?

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Re: [newbie] OT, For apache users

2003-06-01 Per discussione Richard Urwin
On Sunday 01 Jun 2003 12:18 am, JoeHill wrote:
 On Sat, 31 May 2003 16:26:39 -0600

 FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
  http://www.linuxworld.com/ic_956962_8574_1-3133.html

 thanks! I wonder how long it will take for a patch like this to appear
 on the MDK security updates list?

It's on there now. It admits to being 2.0.45, not 2.0.46, but the blurb 
describes the same two vulnerabilities.

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Re: [newbie] Another real Stupid Question

2003-06-01 Per discussione stormjumper
- Original Message - 
From: Steve Jeppesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Another real Stupid Question


 On Fri, 30 May 2003 19:43:24 -0600
 FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  At 07:36 PM 5/30/2003 -0300, you wrote:
  I'd like to point out that there is no real stupid questions when it
  comes to this stuff.
  
  Wheres the power button...?
  
  /me runs away
 
 IIRC, that is the button right below the cup holder...
 
 steve


yeah, but where's the cup holder???

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Re: [newbie] great domain name for sale!

2003-06-01 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2003-06-01 at 12:45, JoeHill wrote:
 On Sat, 31 May 2003 22:44:16 -0400
 Technoslick [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 
  The most perfect slander site could be setup there
  ...the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help us Linux.
 
 check out my homepage for some other great MS links!
 
 I found that one while looking for examples...

...so ya got enough gutz to slag on Gates and Ballmer, but ya ain't got
enough gutz to sling yer pic on YER OWN WEBSITE? Gads mate - you need to
find a better drug dealer! BTW, you need a bigger coffee mug, too.
(g)

(Oh, yeah, hey, when I first hit yer page, I thought Omigawd! That's a
pic of Hill!?!?!)(hehehehhe)

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Re: [newbie] OT, For apache users

2003-06-01 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2003-06-01 at 13:55, JoeHill wrote:
 On Sat, 31 May 2003 22:20:26 -0500
 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 
  Yah, and I worry that with Mandrake being the Apache extranet server
  if I compiled from scratch would that muss up the Mandrake version? 
  Don't really want to take the chance since I have limited time for
  this stuff as it is.
 
 not to discount La Femme's post, but who would go after my pathetic
 site?
 
 Security thru obscurity!

Is that a challenge? (g)

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Re: [newbie] XDMCP and Firewall

2003-06-01 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2003-06-01 at 14:55, Chris Parman wrote:
 Hello,

Hello is the wrong approach to writing a program. The start of a
program, or email, or anything else that has pertinence is:

#!/bin/bash

SO, if you wanted to start a conversation, you could start with:

-
#!/bin/bash
if
for x = 1 through 10
converse
grep | conversation meaning  /dev/null
next x
fi
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...or at least that's how we start conversations with pink haired women.
(grin)

FLAME AWAY!

...anyways, HELLO back at ya, and welcome to the Mandrake Psycho List!
(Er, Mandrake Newbie List)

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Re: [newbie] default browser?

2003-06-01 Per discussione Angus Auld


Jonathan Dlouhy wrote: 
 When I set my file associations to use a default browser other than konqueror 
 I always get this in the address along with a message could not open file. 
 Is there somethign I need to add when using Opera that will pull up the url 
 instead of this mess:
 
 /root/.kde/share/apps/kfmexec/tmp/27620.0.modules.php
 
 Thanks,
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Hi Jonathan, you can try adding the following command to call up Opera in file 
associations: /usr/bin/opera -newwindow %u

HTH.

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Re: [newbie] OT, For apache users

2003-06-01 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2003-06-01 at 15:04, Adolfo Bello wrote:
 On Sat, 2003-05-31 at 23:55, JoeHill wrote:
 
  not to discount La Femme's post, but who would go after my pathetic
  site?
 
 A DoS will crash your entire server. In this case, just 400 or 500
 connections will make it.


...so the question remains, Adolpho, WHO's going to go first?

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Re: [newbie] OT, For apache users

2003-06-01 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2003-06-01 at 15:09, JoeHill wrote:
 On 01 Jun 2003 01:04:24 -0400
 Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 
  A DoS will crash your entire server. In this case, just 400 or 500
  connections will make it.
 
 how can you tell that?

(Ethereal, Cheops...common sense...)(grin)
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for a living.  Tim, you be first, she said.  What does your mother do
all day?
Tim stood up and proudly said, She's a doctor.
That's wonderful.  How about you, Amie?
Amie shyly stood up, scuffed her feet and said, My father is a
mailman.
Thank you, Amie, said the teacher.  What about your father, Billy?
Billy proudly stood up and announced, My daddy plays piano in a
whorehouse.
The teacher was aghast and promptly changed the subject to geography.
Later that day she went to Billy's house and rang the bell.  Billy's father
answered the door.  The teacher explained what his son had said and demanded
an explanation.
Billy's father replied, Well, I'm really an attorney.  But how do
you explain a thing like that to a seven-year-old child?

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Re: [newbie] OT, For apache users

2003-06-01 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2003-06-01 at 15:19, JoeHill wrote:
 On 01 Jun 2003 01:04:24 -0400
 Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 
  
  A DoS will crash your entire server. In this case, just 400 or 500
  connections will make it.
 
 btw, my firewall can handle 20 000 concurrent connections, and it runs
 off a floppy...I think Apache builds a better product than that, no?

Vee haf vays auf maykink you crash, Herr Jozef.

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A grade school teacher was asking students what their parents did
for a living.  Tim, you be first, she said.  What does your mother do
all day?
Tim stood up and proudly said, She's a doctor.
That's wonderful.  How about you, Amie?
Amie shyly stood up, scuffed her feet and said, My father is a
mailman.
Thank you, Amie, said the teacher.  What about your father, Billy?
Billy proudly stood up and announced, My daddy plays piano in a
whorehouse.
The teacher was aghast and promptly changed the subject to geography.
Later that day she went to Billy's house and rang the bell.  Billy's father
answered the door.  The teacher explained what his son had said and demanded
an explanation.
Billy's father replied, Well, I'm really an attorney.  But how do
you explain a thing like that to a seven-year-old child?

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Re: [newbie] Another real Stupid Question

2003-06-01 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2003-06-01 at 19:22, stormjumper wrote:
 - Original Message - 
 From: Steve Jeppesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 9:55 AM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Another real Stupid Question
 
 
  On Fri, 30 May 2003 19:43:24 -0600
  FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   At 07:36 PM 5/30/2003 -0300, you wrote:
   I'd like to point out that there is no real stupid questions when it
   comes to this stuff.
   
   Wheres the power button...?
   
   /me runs away
  
  IIRC, that is the button right below the cup holder...
  
  steve
 
 
 yeah, but where's the cup holder???

It's the long squarish thingee that if you press the little button, the
tray magically slides out and can comfortably hold either a coffee cup
or an ice cream cone. Works wonders with ice cream cones as long as you
don't hit the little button again. It takes ages to get the bits of cone
out of the cup tray.

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for a living.  Tim, you be first, she said.  What does your mother do
all day?
Tim stood up and proudly said, She's a doctor.
That's wonderful.  How about you, Amie?
Amie shyly stood up, scuffed her feet and said, My father is a
mailman.
Thank you, Amie, said the teacher.  What about your father, Billy?
Billy proudly stood up and announced, My daddy plays piano in a
whorehouse.
The teacher was aghast and promptly changed the subject to geography.
Later that day she went to Billy's house and rang the bell.  Billy's father
answered the door.  The teacher explained what his son had said and demanded
an explanation.
Billy's father replied, Well, I'm really an attorney.  But how do
you explain a thing like that to a seven-year-old child?

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Re: [newbie] Another real Stupid Question

2003-06-01 Per discussione stormjumper
- Original Message - 
From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mandrake Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Another real Stupid Question


 On Sun, 2003-06-01 at 19:22, stormjumper wrote:
  - Original Message - 
  From: Steve Jeppesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 9:55 AM
  Subject: Re: [newbie] Another real Stupid Question
 
 
   On Fri, 30 May 2003 19:43:24 -0600
   FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
At 07:36 PM 5/30/2003 -0300, you wrote:
I'd like to point out that there is no real stupid questions when
it
comes to this stuff.
   
Wheres the power button...?
   
/me runs away
  
   IIRC, that is the button right below the cup holder...
  
   steve
 
 
  yeah, but where's the cup holder???

 It's the long squarish thingee that if you press the little button, the
 tray magically slides out and can comfortably hold either a coffee cup
 or an ice cream cone. Works wonders with ice cream cones as long as you
 don't hit the little button again. It takes ages to get the bits of cone
 out of the cup tray.

i see. thanks, i'll bear that in mind.

i'm sure the designers were kinda stupid to stack another cup-holder 1 
inch above the other. do they really think i'll have cups 1 inch thick???

i can accept that if my cup-holder at least works as intended, but one 
of them says burn-proof, but i place my coffee on it and it doesn't even 
retain the heat, not to mention burn anything...


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Re: [newbie] OT, For apache users

2003-06-01 Per discussione Charles A Edwards
On Sat, 31 May 2003 19:18:37 -0400
JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 thanks! I wonder how long it will take for a patch like this to appear
 on the MDK security updates list?

Already done.


Mandrake Linux Security Update Advisory


Package name:   apache2
Advisory ID:MDKSA-2003:063
Date:   May 30th, 2003

Affected versions:  9.1


Problem Description:

 Two vulnerabilities were discovered in the Apache web server that
 affect all 2.x versions prior to 2.0.46.  The first, discovered by John
 Hughes, is a build system problem that allows remote attackers to
 prevent access to authenticated content when a threaded server is used.
 This only affects versions of Apache compiled with threaded server
 httpd.worker, which is not the default for Mandrake Linux.
 
 The second vulnerability, discovered by iDefense, allows remote
 attackers to cause a DoS (Denial of Service) condition and may also
 allow the execution of arbitrary code.
 
 The provided packages include back-ported fixes to correct these
 vulnerabilities and MandrakeSoft encourages all users to upgrade
 immediately.


References:
  
  http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2003-0189
  http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2003-0245

 

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Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Microsoft to license UNIX code

2003-06-01 Per discussione Trevor Rhodes
Stephen,

 I'm trying to get all vestiges of M$ out of my house, out of my usage -
 the wife is the last to go.

Do you mean the wifes M$ computer or 'the wife'?  :^)

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Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Microsoft to license UNIX code

2003-06-01 Per discussione Trevor Rhodes
Michael,

 I am almost at the top of the hill stage. She realises all of what you have
 mentioned. The genealogical software she uses isn't available on Linux. She
 has certainly been talking about wanting to use linux.

This was one of my genealogically deprived spouses problems as well.  We'd 
been using PAF, but have since gotten used to GRAMPS under ML9.1 and it's 
getting better.  It's free, the author is always ready and willing to help, 
fix, patch or whatever is needed.  You would have to use the ML9.1 rpm for 
this as the one from the gramps site wasn't compiled to use 9.1 properly.  
Their still catching up.  At least get it installed and use both for a while 
and see how she likes it.  It's all my wife uses now.

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Re: [newbie] Another real Stupid Question

2003-06-01 Per discussione Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 01 June 2003 06:49 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote:

  yeah, but where's the cup holder???

 It's the long squarish thingee that if you press the little button, the
 tray magically slides out and can comfortably hold either a coffee cup
 or an ice cream cone. Works wonders with ice cream cones as long as you
 don't hit the little button again. It takes ages to get the bits of cone
 out of the cup tray.

Yeah, but I've got 2 cupholders here. How can I use both without the top one 
knocking my Michelob off when its sitting on the bottom one?:-)

(or should I use the top one for drinks and the bottom one for 
sandwiches/snacks?)

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