Re: [newbie-it] Editor latex_per_emiliano

2003-07-15 Per discussione Enrico Piccinini

Ciao Emiliano,

 Io uso con molto profitto emacs con in più il pacchetto
 emacs-auctex che ti 
 permette di avere tutti i comandi del latex nella barra degli 
 strumenti. puoi far davvero tutto da lì, compreso per esempio 
 compilare il testo per 
 generare il file dvi e dargli una sbirciata con xdvi ecc. 
 ecc. devi avere un po'di dimestichezza con i comandi latex,

Mi piacerebbe riuscire ad usare Xemacs ma senza un tempo di start-up
eccessivamente lungo: mi sono appena studiato il latex e ho bisogno di
rendermi indipendente da WinEdt (per win) visto che è a pagamento. Mi
sono scaricato Xemacs così da poterlo iniziare ad usare e riuscire a
fare il porting di tutti i miei documenti da WinEdt a Xemcs e
successivamente da Win a Linux.

Fino ad ora ho usato il MikTex (spero che sia full-compatible con
auctex), mi sai dare qualche dritta (solo se è una roba veloce,
altrimenti tenterò di leggermi un po' di manuali) su come installare
auctex e come lanciarlo (M-x o qualche cosa del genere, boh???) sotto
Xemacs per ottenere quanto mi hai detto (menù con tasti per compilare il
doc, ecc..ecc...)? 
Auctex ha anche la sintax highlight(che trovo molto utile in questa
fase)?

Grazie e scusa se ti chiedo la pappa cotta ma sono in una situazione di
emergenza.

Grazie e ciao ancora
Enrico




[newbie-it] /dev !!!

2003-07-15 Per discussione eraser . head
Ciao a tutti.
Spero tanto che sappiate rispondere al mio quesito...

Ieri, lavorando alla costruzione di un linux minimale, ho erroneamente
cancellato (quasi tutta) la directory /dev!! (Dovevo cancellare la dir dev di
un'altro filesystem in fase di costruzione)
Non sapendo bene cosa fare, ho salvato quel che restava della directory in
/dev_bkp, poi ho copiato lo script MAKEDEV nella /dev e l'ho lanciato:
# ./MAKEDEV -v generic

Questo comando ha ricreato credo quasi tutti i file precedentemente presenti
nella directory.
Quello che ora mi chiedo e': e' sufficiente questo? Il fatto che abbia ricreato,
ad esempio, il file hda1 consente alla relativa partizione di venire montata
senza problemi?
Posso quindi anche riavviare il computer senza il rischio che mi si impianti al
boot?

Altra domanda: ho notato che i dispositivi presenti in /etc/fstab sono stati
ricreati tutti ad esclusione di /dev/cdrom. Perche'? Come posso fare per
farglielo ricreare? Facendo magari un check dell'hardware? E come?

La distribuzione e' Suse 8.1

Ringrazio molto tutti quelli che sapranno aiutarmi...

Ciao ciao,

Chiara





[newbie-it] Alleggerire KDE

2003-07-15 Per discussione Enrico Piccinini
Ciao a tutti,

L'altro giorno ho confrntato il tempo di carica di Mandrake con KDE(con
HD a 10.000rpm) rispetto a un altro PC con winXP (con HD a 7200rpm). 

Mentre WinXP mi ha reso disponibile il desktop in 1 min e 30sec circa,
il secondo ha impiegato circa 3 min e 15 sec.

Il collo di bottiglia è KDE, inquanto dopo poco più di un min e mezzo,
anche Linux mi aveva reso disponibile la finestra di login ma da qui in
poi (una volta digitato login e pass) ho dovuto attendere più di un
altro minuto e mezzo prima di avere la disponibilità del desktop.

Come posso velocizzare il caricamento di KDE?

Ad eliminare dei servizi dal Kernel per velocizzare il caricamento di
Linux ho un po' di paura perché temo di cancellare roba che in un
qualche modo è usata da qualche applicazione.

Tutti i consigli sono benvenuti

Grazie Enrico 





Re: [newbie-it] La Red Hat inizia a fare le bizze... con l'OpenSource??

2003-07-15 Per discussione Junkie
Buttala nel cestino e lasciala a chi la vuole closed: l'ho appena
provata e per quanto mi riguarda trovo che fa schifo :)

Junk.



Il lun, 2003-07-14 alle 10:37, Antonello ha scritto:
 Salve amici Linuxiani provetti, come me in fondo, ho letto in una nota
 rivista che la Red Hat Italiana ha iniziato a tirare i remi in barca.
 Cioè attraverso un provvedimento giuridico ha stabilito una seria
 restrizione su tutti i giornali indipendenti, di pubblicare articoli e
 immagini che parlassero della Red Hat o l'uomo con il cappello rosso.
  
 Non vi sembra un inizio di closed source??? Come dobbiamo comportarci
 con la Red Hat???
  
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Re: [newbie-it] Editor latex_per_emiliano

2003-07-15 Per discussione Emiliano La Licata
Alle 09:42, martedì 15 luglio 2003, Enrico Piccinini ha scritto:


 Mi piacerebbe riuscire ad usare Xemacs ma senza un tempo di start-up
 eccessivamente lungo: mi sono appena studiato il latex e ho bisogno di
 rendermi indipendente da WinEdt (per win) visto che è a pagamento. Mi
 sono scaricato Xemacs così da poterlo iniziare ad usare e riuscire a
 fare il porting di tutti i miei documenti da WinEdt a Xemcs e
 successivamente da Win a Linux.

su xemacs non posso dirti molto perché non lo uso, nè ti posso dare 
informazioni sui corrispetivi win perché non li ho mai usati... 
come ti dicevo l'editor base che uso è emacs 21.2 che si trova nei dischi mdk, 
sempre nei tre cd della mdk, sicuramente c'è nella 9.1 che uso, c'è un altro 
pacchetto rpm che si chiama emacs-auctex, installalo. 
Poiché emacs si adatta alle caratteristiche del file sul quale stai lavorando, 
entra in emacs e crea da emacs un file .tex; nella barra comandi ti troverai
le opzioni Latex e Command, se clicchi su, trovi tutti gli ambienti che ti 
servono per settare un documento tex.
Cominci col dare tutte le informazioni che riguardano il tipo di documento, la 
lingua, il formato carattere e poi cominci a scrivere il documento con gli 
ambienti tex.
Per compilare il file tex in latex, basta andare su command poi cliccare su 
latex e si creano vari files tra i quali uno .dvi che puoi vedere cliccando 
su view...
All'inizio è un po' ostico avere a che fare prima con emacs e poi con i 
comandi latex, per questo è necessario avere a portata di mano o di schermo 
(ahaha) un manualetto, ma presto diventa tutto più semplice.




 
 





Re: [newbie-it] Alleggerire KDE

2003-07-15 Per discussione Fabio Manunza
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Alle 10:49, martedì 15 luglio 2003, Enrico Piccinini ha scritto:
 Ciao a tutti,

 L'altro giorno ho confrntato il tempo di carica di Mandrake con KDE(con
 HD a 10.000rpm) rispetto a un altro PC con winXP (con HD a 7200rpm).

 Mentre WinXP mi ha reso disponibile il desktop in 1 min e 30sec circa,
 il secondo ha impiegato circa 3 min e 15 sec.

 Il collo di bottiglia è KDE, inquanto dopo poco più di un min e mezzo,
 anche Linux mi aveva reso disponibile la finestra di login ma da qui in
 poi (una volta digitato login e pass) ho dovuto attendere più di un
 altro minuto e mezzo prima di avere la disponibilità del desktop.

 Come posso velocizzare il caricamento di KDE?

 Ad eliminare dei servizi dal Kernel per velocizzare il caricamento di
 Linux ho un po' di paura perché temo di cancellare roba che in un
 qualche modo è usata da qualche applicazione.

Invece è proprio da qui che dovresti iniziare...
Vai in /etc/rc.d e leggiti gli script di inizializzazione dei servizi; 
dovresti essere tranquillamente in grado di capire quli ti sono necessari e 
quali meno.
In quanto a KDE, effettivamente è un suo problema, sebbene nella sua ultima 
versione da me utilizzata (la 3.1.0), sia alquanto in quanto a velocità...
Vale.

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Re:[newbie-it] /dev !!!

2003-07-15 Per discussione eraser . head
Mi rispondo da sola...

 Posso quindi anche riavviare il computer senza il rischio che mi si impianti al
 boot?

Si'!   =)


 Altra domanda: ho notato che i dispositivi presenti in /etc/fstab sono stati
 ricreati tutti ad esclusione di /dev/cdrom. Perche'? Come posso fare per
 farglielo ricreare? Facendo magari un check dell'hardware? E come?

In realta' il cdrom era sul device hdd. Ho creato un soft link chiamato cdrom
che punta ad hdd e tutto e' andato per il verso giusto, e riesco a montare tutto
per bene. Evviva!

Ciao ciao!

   Chiara





[newbie-it] allegati e mail creative

2003-07-15 Per discussione Fabio Manunza
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E' da un po' di tempo che non posto più nella lista (purtroppo...),ma 
leggendovi comunque ogni giorno, non ho potuto fare a meno di notare negli 
ultimi tempi un certo imbarbarimento di costumi.
Mail in HTML, allegati con disegnini e sfondi vari ed altre cosucce, che altro 
non fanno che appesantire inutilmente  lo scaricamento della posta.
Vi spiacerebbe tornare all'antico, ovvero attenervi a quelle che sono le 
semplici regole di buona educazione (netiquette) proprie della lista che 
avete sottoscritto?
Caso mai lo aveste smarrito, o non vi fosse stato recapitato al momento 
dell'iscrizione, vi riporto quelle principali, inserite nel modulo di 
accettazione alla mail-list che ancora conservo:

* Sei pregato di attenerti alle seguenti regole generali prima di inviare
messaggi:

1) Utilizza il formato testo ASCII (TXT). Molti utenti non amano i formati
HTML, RTF, a altri formati particolari.
2) Usa delle parole il piu possibile UTILI per il soggetto delle tue e-mail
(AIUTO! e un pessimo soggetto)
3) Prima di porre quesiti, verifica l'archivio della mailing list!
4) Quando richiedi aiuto fornisci sempre informazioni dettagliate relative
al tuo hardware: nome della motherboard, scheda video, quantita di memoria
RAM, modello della scheda audio...
5) Se hai molte domande, NON inviare un unico messaggio gigante ma piuttosto
invia diversi messaggi piu piccoli (e non tutte insieme).
Sopratutto usa un linguaggio educato e rispettoso. Nessuno e OBBLIGATO a
rispondere alle tue domande e non e assolutamente permesso richiedere
alcunche alle persone iscritte alla lista.

Grazie molte


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Re:[newbie-it] allegati e mail creative

2003-07-15 Per discussione d . micci
Pienamente d'accordo con te...

Daniele

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Re: [newbie-it] Alleggerire KDE

2003-07-15 Per discussione Ikki The Porcupine
Alle 10:49, martedì 15 luglio 2003, Enrico Piccinini ha scritto:
 Ciao a tutti,
 
 L'altro giorno ho confrntato il tempo di carica di Mandrake con KDE(con
 HD a 10.000rpm) rispetto a un altro PC con winXP (con HD a 7200rpm). 
 
 Mentre WinXP mi ha reso disponibile il desktop in 1 min e 30sec circa,
 il secondo ha impiegato circa 3 min e 15 sec.
 
 Il collo di bottiglia è KDE, inquanto dopo poco più di un min e mezzo,
 anche Linux mi aveva reso disponibile la finestra di login ma da qui in
 poi (una volta digitato login e pass) ho dovuto attendere più di un
 altro minuto e mezzo prima di avere la disponibilità del desktop.
 
 Come posso velocizzare il caricamento di KDE?
 
 Ad eliminare dei servizi dal Kernel per velocizzare il caricamento di
 Linux ho un po' di paura perché temo di cancellare roba che in un
 qualche modo è usata da qualche applicazione.
 
 Tutti i consigli sono benvenuti
 
 Grazie Enrico 

guarda caso a me succede il contrario, oltre al fatto che win si pianta x ogni 
cazzata...
che xp hai? home o professional? xkè se vuoi fare un paragone, fallo col 
professional (è quello meno lontano da un sistema decente).
anche il dos è sicuramente più veloce a caricarsi, ma se ti basi su quello per 
valutare un sistema... guarda il tempo risparmiato alla fine di una giornata 
di lavoro.
cmq, elimina un po' di servizi, ce ne sono alcuni che forse nn ti servono.
e se ti basta come esperienza la mia, ti posso garantire che con 128 mb di ram 
ci fai girare tranquillamente mozilla e openoffice (quest'ultimo sicuramente 
più pesante di un semplice M$ word)
sul mio comp ci girano: apache, firebird con min. 3 finestre in navigazione, 
openoffice (writer + relativo doc), gimp con alcune immagini aperte (roba di 
qualche mega), kmail, e naturalmente la musica (mp3) va avanti senza intoppi 
usando solo 200 MB dei 512 disponibili.
win 2000 server + iis (l'unica combinazione che possa pretendere una gara 
contro gnu-linux + apache) i 512 di ram se li mangia tutti e swappa anche 

prova fai un confronto del genere con xp poi mi sai dire.

Mandi

Ikki

PS: se non hai idea di quali servizi togliere, postami la schermata che ti 
faccio un repulisti



Re: [newbie-it] make+tuxman

2003-07-15 Per discussione Giaipur
Alle 12:26, domenica 6 luglio 2003, Luigi Pinna ha scritto:
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 Alle 23:56, sabato 5 luglio 2003, Giaipur ha scritto:
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 Sembra che non abbia installato le librerie SDL. Prova a dare il comando
 rpm -qa|grep SDL
 e vedi se le hai installatealtrimenti dai
 urpmi SDL o urpmi libSDL
 e riprova a compilare dopo!
 Buona fortuna!

Ecco output del comando

rpm -qa|grep SDL
libSDL1.2-1.2.5-5mdk
libSDL_image1.2-1.2.2-4mdk
libSDL_net1.2-1.2.4-5mdk
perl-SDL-1.20.0-1mdk
libSDL_mixer1.2-1.2.4-5mdk
libSDL_ttf2.0-2.0.5-4mdk

Ci sono tutte?
C'erano già.

Grazie x l'aiuto, cmq ho imparato un nuovo comando.



Re: [newbie] Easiest way to upgrade XFree?

2003-07-15 Per discussione Miark
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 01:32:10 -0400, JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Okay, the options are compiling the latest source tarball and praying
 or...?

Out of curiosity, why do you want to do that?

Miark

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Re: [newbie] OT: favorite spyware seeker for windows

2003-07-15 Per discussione Richard Urwin
On Tuesday 15 Jul 2003 3:36 am, Eric Huff wrote:
 Hi Folks,

 I'm trying to find out for my dad what the best ( free) spyware
 finder is
 for windows.

 When i google around, i get too many hits (bps, adaware, spybot,
 spywareinfo, etc).

 What's your favorite?  I trust our list way more than a billion
 reviews on the web...

Just to reiterate, I installed both ad-aware and spybot on my work 
machines just the other day. Both look good, and there's not much to 
choose between them.

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Re: [newbie] OT: favorite spyware seeker for windows

2003-07-15 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 16:57, Richard Urwin wrote:
 On Tuesday 15 Jul 2003 3:36 am, Eric Huff wrote:
  Hi Folks,
 
  I'm trying to find out for my dad what the best ( free) spyware
  finder is
  for windows.
 
  When i google around, i get too many hits (bps, adaware, spybot,
  spywareinfo, etc).
 
  What's your favorite?  I trust our list way more than a billion
  reviews on the web...
 
 Just to reiterate, I installed both ad-aware and spybot on my work 
 machines just the other day. Both look good, and there's not much to 
 choose between them.

SpySweeper from www.webroot.com

Just keep downloading the new versions - cuz they're free - it does
quite a good job in conjunction with the other spyware tools...as well,
check out:

http://www.spyinfo.com - for further tools

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Re: [newbie] [RS] Whois

2003-07-15 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 12:27, Miark wrote:
 urpmi.remove your CD sources. Configure a distribution urpmi source.
 Then urpmi whois. 
 
 Miark

I thought that whois would have been installed by default the first
time around; or is that on RH ---???

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[newbie] Dosemu

2003-07-15 Per discussione Eko Budiharto
Hi
is it possible I can print from Dosemu?


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Re: [newbie] Glib 2.2.3 cannot be found

2003-07-15 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 12:48, Cody Harris wrote:
 Curious, but why does it say:
 OE has removed the following unsafe attachments in your mail: message.footer

Because of toe-jam in the message.footer; it can spread bad diseases.

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Re: [newbie] Easiest way to upgrade XFree?

2003-07-15 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 15:32, JoeHill wrote:
 Okay, the options are compiling the latest source tarball and praying
 or...?

Use urpmi, or red-carpet.

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Re: [newbie] lm sensors is lying

2003-07-15 Per discussione Lyvim Xaphir
On Mon, 2003-07-14 at 19:55, Miark wrote:
 Here's my sensors output. Note the temperature of 127°C. Call me
 crazy (shut up, Stephen) but I think this is probably inaccurate :-) 
 
 How do I fix the reading?
 
 Miark
 
 
 lm80-i2c-0-2d
 Adapter: SMBus Via Pro adapter at 5000
 Algorithm: Non-I2C SMBus adapter
 +5V:   +4.00 V  (min =  +4.50 V, max =  +0.00 V)   ALARM
 VTT:   +2.00 V  (min =  +1.71 V, max =  +2.09 V)   ALARM
 +3.3V: +2.54 V  (min =  +2.97 V, max =  +3.63 V)   ALARM
 +Vcore:+0.44 V  (min =  +2.52 V, max =  +3.08 V)   ALARM
 +12V: +13.52 V  (min = +10.80 V, max = +13.20 V)   ALARM
 -12V:  -7.08 V  (min =  -8.56 V, max =  -6.48 V)
 -5V:   -2.54 V  (min =  -3.38 V, max =  -2.16 V)   ALARM
 fan1: 10629 RPM  (min = 6000 RPM, div = 1)
 fan2: 11344 RPM  (min = 6000 RPM, div = 1)
 temp: +127.00 °C (hot:limit =  +6°C,  hysteresis =  +5°C) ALARM
  (os: limit =  +6°C,  hysteresis =  +5°C) ALARM
 alarms:   Board temperature input (LM75)   ALARM
 alarms:   Chassis intrusion detection  ALARM
 
Miark, your output looks extremely weird to me.  Of course my data seems
to be coming from a different adapter than yours.  Your data says
temp, but it doesn't say WHAT temp.  CPU, system, ambient, what is it?

The output I'm getting here seems more accurate and concise:


via686a-isa-6000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Algorithm: ISA algorithm
CPU core:  +1.74 V  (min =  +1.98 V, max =  +2.49 V)   ALARM
+2.5V: +0.30 V  (min =  +2.24 V, max =  +2.74 V)   ALARM
I/O:   +3.35 V  (min =  +2.95 V, max =  +3.62 V)   
+5V:   +4.97 V  (min =  +4.47 V, max =  +5.49 V)   
+12V: +12.16 V  (min = +10.79 V, max = +13.18 V)   
CPU Fan:  5720 RPM  (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2)  
P/S Fan: 0 RPM  (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2)  
SYS Temp:  +25.5°C  (limit =  +45°C, hysteresis =  +40°C) 
CPU Temp:  +41.2°C  (limit =  +60°C, hysteresis =  +55°C) 
SBr Temp:  +22.8°C  (limit =  +65°C, hysteresis =  +60°C) 

 
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Re: [newbie] lm sensors is lying

2003-07-15 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 18:10, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
   
 CPU Fan:  5720 RPM  (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2)  
 P/S Fan: 0 RPM  (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2)  
 SYS Temp:  +25.5°C  (limit =  +45°C, hysteresis =  +40°C) 
 CPU Temp:  +41.2°C  (limit =  +60°C, hysteresis =  +55°C) 
 SBr Temp:  +22.8°C  (limit =  +65°C, hysteresis =  +60°C) 
 LX

Dang, man...CPU temp a tad bit high...fryin'up some eggs are we?

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Re: [newbie] Compiling Drivers from CVS(was installing new hardware)

2003-07-15 Per discussione Derek Jennings
On Monday 14 Jul 2003 11:00 pm, Wade Waldron wrote:
 I have determined that I probably need an up to date version of the pegasus
 driver on my system.  I have downloaded the header file off the CVS on the
 internet.  I would like to add the new version of the driver to my system. 
 I am guessing that this requires me to compile it since I can not seem to
 find any other versions.  Can someone explain how I go about doing this and
 what will I need to do it?

 Wade

 Continuing from the conversation below

SNIP

Wade You need more than the headers you need the entire CVS.

Start off by opening a root terminal and typing

urpmi gcc kernel-source cvs 

That will install the gcc compiler. The source code of your kernel and the cvs 
software to get the driver off the net.

Next open a user terminal and type (all on 1 line)

cvs -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/pegasus2 login

You will see the reply :

Logging in to :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2401/cvsroot/pegasus2
CVS password:

Hit 'Enter' as the password. The CVS server is very unreliable you may have to 
try this several times.

Then type all on 1 line

cvs -z3 -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/pegasus2 co -r 
pegasus_2_4 pegasus

Again you may need to try this several times but eventually you should see:-

cvs server: Updating pegasus
U pegasus/Makefile
U pegasus/pegasus.c
U pegasus/pegasus.h

The files are now downloaded and should be in the directory ~/pegasus  
(~ means your home directory)

Now enter
cd pegasus
ls  (to see the list of files)

You must now edit the file Makefile using whatever editor you like.
Edit the line
CFLAGS  = -Wp,-MD,.$(*F).d -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.20/include -Wall 
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer 
-fno-strict-aliasing -fno
-common -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -march=pentium3 -DMODULE 
-DKBUILD_BASENAME=$(*F)

to read
CFLAGS  = -Wp,-MD,.$(*F).d -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall 
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer 
-fno-strict-aliasing -fno
-common -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -march=pentium3 -DMODULE 
-DKBUILD_BASENAME=$(*F)

Now enter

make

The file pegasus.o should appear

Now remove the file 
/lib/modules/2.4.21-0.13mdk/kernel/drivers/usb/pegasus.o.gz  (move it to 
somewhere safe in case you need it again) and replace it with pegasus.o

Thats it done. Now if you execute the command (in a root terminal)
modprobe pegasus 
the driver should load and will show up if you do 
lsmod

You will still need to edit that /etc/hotplug/usb.handmap file as I mentioned 
in my last post if you want the driver automatically loaded when you plug the 
adapter in.

Hope that all works -)

derek

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Re: [newbie] Easiest way to upgrade XFree?

2003-07-15 Per discussione Robin Turner
JoeHill wrote:
Okay, the options are compiling the latest source tarball and praying
or...?
The only easy way to upgrade is to wait for a new version of Mandrake ;-)

Seriously, though, if you really need to do it, urpmi should do the 
trick, and be prepared to hack your XF86Config file.  I don't recommend 
compiling from source, but if you do, make an RPM and install that.

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Re: [newbie] M9.1 and Mozilla 1.3

2003-07-15 Per discussione John Richard Smith
Stephen Kuhn wrote:

On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 10:19, John Richard Smith wrote:
 

Is it me or has this version of mozilla got a bug in the count 
mechanism
for the number of unread emails held in a folder.

John
   

We can look at it in two perspectives:
1.) It's you.
2.) Mozilla sucks
Now, if it's 1.), then we need to explore how to resolve the issues
within YOU in order to get everything sorted out nicely and have you
operating at your maximum and optimal capacity.
If it's 2.), then we need to convince you to use a better browser.

 

Thank you Stephen for your carefully worded reply.

OK, so it's me.

So how is it me ?

John

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Re: [newbie] [RS] Whois

2003-07-15 Per discussione Cody Harris
- Original Message - 
From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mandrake Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 4:18 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] [RS] Whois


 On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 12:27, Miark wrote:
  urpmi.remove your CD sources. Configure a distribution urpmi source.
  Then urpmi whois.
 
  Miark

 I thought that whois would have been installed by default the first
 time around; or is that on RH ---???

Didn't for me!


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[newbie] Kernel error

2003-07-15 Per discussione Peter Meyns
Hi all,

good thing this list seems to be up and running again.

I went through my KDE settings yesterday and on the module System - Linux
Kernel I got the following information (translated from German):

from kde

Error

Your kernel configuration could not be read because of the following error:

/usr/src/linux/arch//config.in cannot be opened.

Either the source code of your kernel contains faulty configuration rules
or you have just discovered a bug in this program.

/from kde

So what might that mean? Is it the 2 slashes between arch and
config.in, and if so where would I fix this?

Any ideas?

I'm using Mandrake 9.1 installed without changing the defaults, KDE version
is 3.1.

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[newbie] ACPI on MDK 9.0

2003-07-15 Per discussione Asier Goikoetxea Yanci

Hi there,

I am trying to get ACPI working on my box but I am having some troubles. On 
the booting sequence, when acpi is tried to be loaded, I have this error 
message:

acpid: can't open /proc/acpi/event: Notsuch file or directory

I checked /proc folder and there is no even /proc/acpi folder. Any ideas why? 
I am using kernel 2.4.19-16mdk. Do I need to upgrade it? I rather not to do 
so but if it is needed...

Thanks a lot,

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Re: [newbie] M9.1 and Mozilla 1.3

2003-07-15 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 21:43, John Richard Smith wrote:

 Thank you Stephen for your carefully worded reply.
 
 OK, so it's me.
 
 So how is it me ?
 
 John

I reckon that your kernel is missing some modules...when was the last
time you did a dependency check on yourself? (g)

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Re: [newbie] OT: favorite spyware seeker for windows

2003-07-15 Per discussione Frank Bax
At 02:57 AM 7/15/03, Richard Urwin wrote:

On Tuesday 15 Jul 2003 3:36 am, Eric Huff wrote:
 Hi Folks,

 I'm trying to find out for my dad what the best ( free) spyware
 finder is
 for windows.

 When i google around, i get too many hits (bps, adaware, spybot,
 spywareinfo, etc).

 What's your favorite?  I trust our list way more than a billion
 reviews on the web...
Just to reiterate, I installed both ad-aware and spybot on my work
machines just the other day. Both look good, and there's not much to
choose between them.


I use spybot - when I reviewed offerings earlier this year, ad-aware 
development had stalled over the winter - has this changed?  I noticed 
yesterday that Norton AntiVirus (Corp Edition) is catching some of these 
trojans now - even though they are not virii.

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Re: [newbie] Kernel error

2003-07-15 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 20:58, Peter Meyns wrote:
 Hi all,
 good thing this list seems to be up and running again.
 I went through my KDE settings yesterday and on the module System - Linux
 Kernel I got the following information (translated from German):
 from kde

GENEROUS WHACK
 Any ideas?
 I'm using Mandrake 9.1 installed without changing the defaults, KDE version
 is 3.1.

Guten Tag, Peter.
When you did your installation, did you install all of the kernel
sources and headers? Because if not, then the error is explanatory as
the KDE Control Center is looking for the sources and cannot find the
necessary configuration files.

If, by chance, you DO already have the kernel sources and headers
installed, then there is reason for further investigation and concern.

So, make sure, absolutely sure, that you have the kernel sources and
headers and the likes installed - THEN try opening up the KDE Control
Center again and seeing if that resolves the error, mate.

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Re: [newbie] [RS] Whois

2003-07-15 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 21:05, Cody Harris wrote:

 Didn't for me!

But now it's safe to assume that you've installed it and are happily
identifying every server, domain, gateway and whatnot?

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Re: [newbie] ACPI on MDK 9.0

2003-07-15 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 20:58, Asier Goikoetxea Yanci wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 I am trying to get ACPI working on my box but I am having some troubles. On 
 the booting sequence, when acpi is tried to be loaded, I have this error 
 message:
 
 acpid: can't open /proc/acpi/event: Notsuch file or directory
 
 I checked /proc folder and there is no even /proc/acpi folder. Any ideas why? 
 I am using kernel 2.4.19-16mdk. Do I need to upgrade it? I rather not to do 
 so but if it is needed...
 
 Thanks a lot,
 
 Asier

If there is a doubt of it being on or not, do you see it running when
you fire up drakxservices ??

Also, you can pass the param to the kernel at boot - either directly or
by modifying the append line in your /etc/lilo.conf; but firstly, to
know if it's running as a system service mate.

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[newbie] Connecting to the net as root

2003-07-15 Per discussione Sharrea
Hi all

Yeeha! I've finally got a satellite internet connection - one-way, still 
have to upload via dialup modem.  I was even lucky enough to find a driver 
for linux (thanks to Bryan Christianson, developer) which was a breeze to 
compile and setup.

Just one concern, starting/stopping the device must be done as root user.  
Is there any security issue with this?  I don't _think_ there is but... you 
know paranoia an' all... just want to make sure I'm not leaving my system 
wide open for script kiddies.

Oh, and yes, I do have a firewall start upon connection to the net (iptables 
script).  ;)  Sygatech and GRC port scans show all intended ports in 
stealth mode.

And I don't mind if you laugh/scream/shout at me about my paranoia.  Some 
nice person got into my computer (when I was using M$ Windoze of course!) 
and disabled Zonealarm, totally stuffed the packet-sniffer and antivirus 
software, left me with an empty excel file that used to contain website 
logins and passwords and installed a virus, and displayed the contents of 
my hard drive in my browser window.  That was two years and one month ago 
which is what made me switch to linux.  Hehe... had to learn the hard 
way...

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Re: [newbie] Connecting to the net as root

2003-07-15 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 21:34, Sharrea wrote:
 Hi all
 
 Yeeha! I've finally got a satellite internet connection - one-way, still 
 have to upload via dialup modem.  I was even lucky enough to find a driver 
 for linux (thanks to Bryan Christianson, developer) which was a breeze to 
 compile and setup.
 
 Just one concern, starting/stopping the device must be done as root user.  
 Is there any security issue with this?  I don't _think_ there is but... you 
 know paranoia an' all... just want to make sure I'm not leaving my system 
 wide open for script kiddies.
 
 Oh, and yes, I do have a firewall start upon connection to the net (iptables 
 script).  ;)  Sygatech and GRC port scans show all intended ports in 
 stealth mode.
 
 And I don't mind if you laugh/scream/shout at me about my paranoia.  Some 
 nice person got into my computer (when I was using M$ Windoze of course!) 
 and disabled Zonealarm, totally stuffed the packet-sniffer and antivirus 
 software, left me with an empty excel file that used to contain website 
 logins and passwords and installed a virus, and displayed the contents of 
 my hard drive in my browser window.  That was two years and one month ago 
 which is what made me switch to linux.  Hehe... had to learn the hard 
 way...
 
 Sharrea

Couldn't you just create a script to do all of this for you - to sudo
- therefore allying your fears and paranoias?

Then you wouldn't have to worry about doing it manually - ya reckon?

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Re: [newbie] sylpheed-0.9.3claws rpms

2003-07-15 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 22:00, Charles A Edwards wrote:
 For any who might be interested the following Mdk-9.1 rpms for
 sylpheed-0.9.3claws can be dled from my web site (see sig for URL)
  Charles

No matter what ANYONE says, I still think you're a nice guy, Charles!

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Re: [newbie] Easiest way to upgrade XFree?

2003-07-15 Per discussione JoeHill
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 01:57:23 -0400
Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 
 Out of curiosity, why do you want to do that?

On my now famous Compaq Deskpro, it has an onboard S3 Trio64V2/GX which
is only supported by X 3.3.6 or the latest 4.3.x.

Since it is a test machine, I am thinkin Robin *might* be on the right
track, go for 9.2 beta (is that out yet?!) or cooker I guess.

But urpmi would work? 

ie. rpm -e --nodeps XFree*, then urpmi XFree new version?

or go for the whole shamozzle (ie. don't use --nodeps)?

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Re: [newbie] OT: favorite spyware seeker for windows

2003-07-15 Per discussione aron smith
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 04:24, Frank Bax wrote:
 At 02:57 AM 7/15/03, Richard Urwin wrote:
 
 On Tuesday 15 Jul 2003 3:36 am, Eric Huff wrote:
   Hi Folks,
  
   I'm trying to find out for my dad what the best ( free) spyware
   finder is
   for windows.
  
   When i google around, i get too many hits (bps, adaware, spybot,
   spywareinfo, etc).
  
   What's your favorite?  I trust our list way more than a billion
   reviews on the web...
 
 Just to reiterate, I installed both ad-aware and spybot on my work
 machines just the other day. Both look good, and there's not much to
 choose between them.
 
 
 I use spybot - when I reviewed offerings earlier this year, ad-aware 
 development had stalled over the winter - has this changed?  I noticed 
 yesterday that Norton AntiVirus (Corp Edition) is catching some of these 
 trojans now - even though they are not virii.
 
 Frank 
Why not just install Mandrake without telling 'em ;p
 
 
 
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[newbie] Partitions, File Systems, and Kernel not installing

2003-07-15 Per discussione The Other
07/15/03

Hello All, from The Other

Dennis, the CDs arrived.  Thank you.

3 hours of 37 different combinations of installing, and the Kernel 
package failed to install each time.  Same results with the replacement 
CD1 and the original distro CD1.  Obviuously, my problem isn't with the CDs.

I tried Journalized Ext3 and Linux Native Ext2 file systems.

This is a 1998 Asus P2B motherboard that installed Bamboo once, the very 
first time I installed.  No joy since.

How big should the / (root) partition be?  On that single successful 
installed Mandrake chose 5GB if I remember correctly.  I've been trying 
6GB or larger since.  Is that my problem?

Or does it make a difference which sector I begin the root partition? 
Does it make a difference on which of 2 drives I install root?  

What are the special requirements for root?  Am I having trouble because 
somewhere I'm spanning a 1024-cylinder boundary?

If my system had never installed Bamboo, I would consider a hardware 
incompatibility problem.  But now it appears there's something in my 
installation configuration that's messing up Kernel.

Any ideas what that could be?

Oh, anyway to print out the installation logs as the CD boots.  I 
noticed a message to the effect:

error opening Mandrake base patch in  somefile name on CD1

The message went by to quickly to get the details.  Would it help if I 
could capture those logs as they scroll by?

Thanks All
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Re: [newbie] ACPI on MDK 9.0

2003-07-15 Per discussione Asier Goikoetxea Yanci
On Tuesday 15 Jul 2003 12:29 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 If there is a doubt of it being on or not, do you see it running when
 you fire up drakxservices ??

I checked that already, and it is stopped. If I try to start it, I get a 
filure message saying that there is not /proc/acpi/events folder. BTW, it is 
configured to start at boot.

 Also, you can pass the param to the kernel at boot - either directly or
 by modifying the append line in your /etc/lilo.conf; but firstly, to
 know if it's running as a system service mate.

This is something that I did as well. I passed acpi=on.

None of this seemed to solve the problem. Any idea of what should be the next 
thing to test/check?

Cheers,

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Re: [newbie] ACPI on MDK 9.0

2003-07-15 Per discussione Derek Jennings
On Tuesday 15 Jul 2003 11:58 am, Asier Goikoetxea Yanci wrote:
 Hi there,

 I am trying to get ACPI working on my box but I am having some troubles. On
 the booting sequence, when acpi is tried to be loaded, I have this error
 message:

 acpid: can't open /proc/acpi/event: Notsuch file or directory

 I checked /proc folder and there is no even /proc/acpi folder. Any ideas
 why? I am using kernel 2.4.19-16mdk. Do I need to upgrade it? I rather not
 to do so but if it is needed...

 Thanks a lot,

 Asier

Have you enabled acpi in the kernel?
The default configuration for Mandrake is for acpi to be disabled.
Look at /etc/lilo.conf and if your append line has noacpi in it remove it 
and run
lilo -v in a root terminal.

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[newbie] sylpheed-0.9.3claws rpms

2003-07-15 Per discussione Charles A Edwards


For any who might be interested the following Mdk-9.1 rpms for
sylpheed-0.9.3claws can be dled from my web site (see sig for URL)

sylpheed-claws-0.9.3claws-1mdk.i586.rpm
sylpheed-claws-dillo_viewer-plugin-0.9.3claws-1mdk.i586.rpm
sylpheed-claws-clamav-plugin-0.9.3claws-1mdk.i586.rpm
sylpheed-claws-ghostscript_viewer-plugin-0.9.3claws-1mdk.i586.rpm
sylpheed-claws-image_viewer-plugin-0.9.3claws-1mdk.i586.rpm
sylpheed-claws-spamassassin-plugin-0.9.3claws-1mdk.i586.rpm
sylpheed-claws-trayicon-plugin-0.9.3claws-1mdk.i586.rpm



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Re: [newbie] Easiest way to upgrade XFree?

2003-07-15 Per discussione aron smith
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 00:23, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 15:32, JoeHill wrote:
  Okay, the options are compiling the latest source tarball and praying
  or...?
 
 Use urpmi, or red-carpet.
new version of red carpet is nice but urpmi seems to be more versatile.


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Re: [newbie] Easiest way to upgrade XFree?

2003-07-15 Per discussione Robin Turner
JoeHill wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 01:57:23 -0400
Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

Out of curiosity, why do you want to do that?


On my now famous Compaq Deskpro, it has an onboard S3 Trio64V2/GX which
is only supported by X 3.3.6 or the latest 4.3.x.
Stick with 3.3.6 until Mdk 9.2 comes out. An S3 Trio will look crap 
whatever driver you have, anyway ;-)
Since it is a test machine, I am thinkin Robin *might* be on the right
track, go for 9.2 beta (is that out yet?!) or cooker I guess.
But urpmi would work? 

ie. rpm -e --nodeps XFree*, then urpmi XFree new version?

or go for the whole shamozzle (ie. don't use --nodeps)?
Only if you want to get rid of every X application you have!

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[newbie] test-do not respond

2003-07-15 Per discussione Nick A
Sorry all just testing to see if this works for me.

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Re: [newbie] Easiest way to upgrade XFree?

2003-07-15 Per discussione JoeHill
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 17:28:56 +0300
Robin Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 Stick with 3.3.6 until Mdk 9.2 comes out. An S3 Trio will look crap 
 whatever driver you have, anyway ;-)

ach, laddie, it's an old P200 anyway, just a test machine, but with
3.3.6 I can't get any of the better WMs to run properly. Blackbox, of
course, but that would work on my toaster :)

  Since it is a test machine, I am thinkin Robin *might* be on the
  right track, go for 9.2 beta (is that out yet?!) or cooker I guess.
  
  But urpmi would work? 
  
  ie. rpm -e --nodeps XFree*, then urpmi XFree new version?
  
  or go for the whole shamozzle (ie. don't use --nodeps)?
 
 Only if you want to get rid of every X application you have!

that's what I thought...I'm thinkin' 9.2 cooker is a good bet, but I
can't find a mirror to download an ISO, tho it says on the MDK site they
*are* out there (watching us, waiting...).

Thanks to all for the tips, if anyone can lead me to a cooker ISO, I
will do the hoochie coochie and turn myself around!

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Re: [newbie] Kernel error

2003-07-15 Per discussione Brant Fitzsimmons
Peter Meyns wrote:

Hi all,

good thing this list seems to be up and running again.

I went through my KDE settings yesterday and on the module System - Linux
Kernel I got the following information (translated from German):
from kde

Error

Your kernel configuration could not be read because of the following error:

/usr/src/linux/arch//config.in cannot be opened.

Either the source code of your kernel contains faulty configuration rules
or you have just discovered a bug in this program.
/from kde

So what might that mean? Is it the 2 slashes between arch and
config.in, and if so where would I fix this?
Any ideas?

I'm using Mandrake 9.1 installed without changing the defaults, KDE version
is 3.1.
 

What kernel source are you working with?  I had the same problem with a 
recent kernel so I installed the source for the multimedia kernel and 
did it again with success.  You may want to try a different kernel 
source and see if you still have the same problem.

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Re: [newbie] sylpheed-0.9.3claws rpms

2003-07-15 Per discussione Inhabitant of Zion
 
 For any who might be interested the following Mdk-9.1 rpms for
 sylpheed-0.9.3claws can be dled from my web site (see sig for URL)
 

Brilliant! Worked like a charm. Its much fast than 9.0 as well.

John

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Re: [newbie] [RS] Whois

2003-07-15 Per discussione Cody Harris
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Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] [RS] Whois


 On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 21:05, Cody Harris wrote:

  Didn't for me!

 But now it's safe to assume that you've installed it and are happily
 identifying every server, domain, gateway and whatnot?


Nope. I've decidied not to installed because i have to use that urpmi thing.

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Re: [newbie] M9.1 and Mozilla 1.3

2003-07-15 Per discussione Brant Fitzsimmons
John Richard Smith wrote:

Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:

John Richard Smith wrote:

Is it me or has this version of mozilla got a bug in the count 
mechanism
for the number of unread emails held in a folder.

John


I haven't had any problems with the counts.  Are you having any other 
problems with Mozilla?  Have you upgraded to 1.3.1 or 1.4?

No other problem with Mozilla at all. It works just fine otherwise.
I still have the standard M9.1 install
The counters are the problem.
If I download say 100 emails, when it's done, only less than half will 
be counted there as unread mail, until I happen to click on the 
catagory that has them, then they appear, but don't reduce in number 
as they are read. This is not the case in all catagories just some, 
about half, and I cannot say it's only the one definative set of 
catagories, and not the others, it seems fairly random each time. If 
like me you have more than one email address and in one case  up to 14 
catagories with filters to sort them, it means my mailer handles some 
complicated downloads, but all the mail arrives. It's just that for 
instance,say on this email address , my inbox will show nil downloads, 
when in fact there are heaps, but if I click the catagory it will 
immediately show the number of unread mails.When I'm finished reading 
my mail , the original sum of unread mail is still showing unread, and 
to get rid of it I have to click another catagaory and back to inbox 
again, when the erraneous number does.

That's it in a nutshell.

John
Odd. 

Have you tried searching for info on mozilla.org?

You may also want to update Mozilla?  Lots of bugs are fixed in each 
release.  They may have fixed your bug. :-)

If you follow the instructions below you will be updated to version 1.4.

-Type: su
-Type in your root password.
-Type: urpmi.addmedia texstar 
ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1/rpms 
with hdlist.cz
-Type: urpmi -v mozilla*
-Enjoy new Mozilla.

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Re: [newbie] M9.1 and Mozilla 1.3

2003-07-15 Per discussione John Richard Smith
Stephen Kuhn wrote:

On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 21:43, John Richard Smith wrote:

 

Thank you Stephen for your carefully worded reply.

OK, so it's me.

So how is it me ?

John
   

I reckon that your kernel is missing some modules...when was the last
time you did a dependency check on yourself? (g)
 

Is that all, I thought I was going to need a brain transplant at the 
very least.

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Re: [newbie] Easiest way to upgrade XFree?

2003-07-15 Per discussione Tom Brinkman
On Tuesday July 15 2003 09:37 am, JoeHill wrote:
 that's what I thought...I'm thinkin' 9.2 cooker is a good bet,
 but I can't find a mirror to download an ISO, tho it says on the
 MDK site they *are* out there (watching us, waiting...).

   Best way to install cooker is to start with 9.1, then disable CD 
sources and add cooker sources. Then,
urpmi urpmi
urpmi --auto-select
   Broadband is a must.  Cooker has yet to post any iso's but when 
they do, most mirrors that carry cooker will have them. They'll 
show up here (primary mirror) first 
ftp://sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-iso/i586
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Re: [newbie] Glib 2.2.3 cannot be found

2003-07-15 Per discussione Andy
On Mon, 2003-07-14 at 22:55, JoeHill wrote:
 On 14 Jul 2003 23:41:39 -0500
 Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 
  I did install the update from a source tarball. But where do I install
  it then? And where do I execute ldconfig? You have to remember that
  I'm quite new to Linux (sorry ;p).
 
 Heh. Like I say, if yer installing glib from source, yer way ahead of
 some of the dunderheads around here...wait, did I just say that out
 loud?!
 
 When you install from a source tarball, in my experience you want to do
 it a bit differently for critical libraries like glib and such, because
 Mandrake tends to put them in non-standard locations (I think *good*
 ones, but that's another flame war).
 
 Instead of just ./configure, do ./configure --prefix=/usr
 (this is for glib).
 
 To execute ldconfig (and updatedb, just to be sure), su to root in your
 fav terminal and simply run the commands.
 
 su root
 
 enter password for root
 
 updatedb (go get a coffee)
 
 ldconfig
 
 then try installing Pango from the source packages and report back!
 
 The main thing to keep in mind is if you keep track of what you are
 doing, and don't, repeat *don't* delete the source packages once you
 install, you can always uninstall, go back, and start over.
 
 Ya, it's not like installng Kazaa on Windows, I'll give ya that.

Awesome. It seems that worked out well; Pango found glib and continued
to install whatever it needed to do. I used the prefix when I was
configuring Pango, also if this is needed? And what do updatedb and
ldconfig actually do? See, usually when I run ./configure and make and
all of those commands, it'd show me where everything is being put,
right? Well, if this was the case of say a lib (glib) and I tried to
install another package that depended on that lib, it'd fail to install
because I wouldn't know where to point the installation at/where the
library was actually installed. Should I always point the libs at
-prefix=/usr? Or should this be the only case for small applications and
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[newbie] Standard Out Redirecting

2003-07-15 Per discussione Troy Davidson
I am trying to redirect the version output of Java on a computer.  I run the
command:

java -version  test

The commandline will then print out the version of Java and test will have
nothing in it.

Is there some other way to capture the version?  I am putting this in a
script to check if a computer needs a newer version of Java before a program
can be ran.  

Thanks for the help.

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[newbie] KdeprintFax

2003-07-15 Per discussione owenb
My computer is a dedicated 9.1 The installation was straight forward.  I 
have not added any additional software or made any changes.
 But when I went to use KdeprintFax the following troubles manifested 
themselves.
The Address book only shows a Icon although I have entered addresses.  
When I activate, Edit Addressbook my entries are there.

When I enter a   text file and manually enter a  fax phone # and try to 
send I get the following error message.

'Fax Error. See Log Message For More Information
The log tells me, Usage: anytops[-m filters] [- - mime =mime - 
type.] [ -p page] ]- -help] infile  outfile

I have no idea what any of it means but it looks  very complicated and I 
am very dumb.  I really need a fax program .
If someone would have the patience to help me fix this one or recommend 
another software package I would be most grateful.
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2003-07-15 Per discussione owenb



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[newbie] Find the Source!

2003-07-15 Per discussione James Henry Maiewski
Hello,

I'm trying to install the source code for Krec (K - Multimedia - Sound - 
Krec), which I believe is in kdemultimedia-3.1-10mdk.src.rpm.  I've done 
this and haven't the foggiest idea where it was installed (if, indeed,  this 
was the source).  grpmi tells me that everything was installed, but there is 
nothing in /usr/src, and the find file tool gives me nothing (although I'm 
unclear what the files might be called, and I can't seem to get rpmdrake to 
acknowledge any source excepting the kernel).  How stupid am I?

By the way, has anyone successfully recorded anything via Krec?  I can record 
with a C program I copied from the 1996 LINUX Multimedia Guide by Jeff 
Tranter (O'Reilly), but not with Krec.

Relatedly, what exactly is the difference does enable full duplex make?  
Krec requires it, but my homespun won't work at all.

With an advance of thanks,
-Jim

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Re: [newbie] Installing new hardware

2003-07-15 Per discussione g


Stephen Kuhn wrote:
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 15:05, Wade Waldron wrote:

I would like to install hardware while bypassing the Mandrake

Bypassing the GUI or what?
Because hardware detection is going to initiate during the bootup
another question is just what hardware it is that he is wanting to install. :)

peace out.

tc,hago.

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Re: [newbie] KdeprintFax

2003-07-15 Per discussione aron smith
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 14:55, owenb wrote:
 My computer is a dedicated 9.1 The installation was straight forward.  I 
 have not added any additional software or made any changes.
   But when I went to use KdeprintFax the following troubles manifested 
 themselves.
 The Address book only shows a Icon although I have entered addresses.  
 When I activate, Edit Addressbook my entries are there.
 
 When I enter a   text file and manually enter a  fax phone # and try to 
 send I get the following error message.
 
 'Fax Error. See Log Message For More Information
 The log tells me, Usage: anytops[-m filters] [- - mime =mime - 
 type.] [ -p page] ]- -help] infile  outfile
 
 I have no idea what any of it means but it looks  very complicated and I 
 am very dumb.  I really need a fax program .
 If someone would have the patience to help me fix this one or recommend 
 another software package I would be most grateful.
   Owen
Having used a couple of computer-fax programs I find that they are for
the most part a monumental PIA
Unless money is really tight buy a used fax machine.
 
 
 
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Re: [newbie] Multiple GCC

2003-07-15 Per discussione Orlando Gonzalez
--- raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi to all!
  
 Is it possible to install multiple gcc using rpm
 command?
  
 I'm using mandrake 9.0
  
 I've plan to install flowscan, but it requires lower
 version of gcc like gcc-2.95. 
  
 Can You help me? 
  
  
 Thanks.
  
 Raymond

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Re: [newbie] Newbie needs install/checksum help

2003-07-15 Per discussione g


R. L. Moore wrote:
Where do I get checksum software and how do I use it on a windows
have a look at http://www.md5summer.org/

peace out.

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Re: [newbie] nVidia driver fails to initialize at startup

2003-07-15 Per discussione magnet
On Tuesday 15 Jul 2003 9:57 pm, Deek wrote:
 Gah, another problem:
 I just recently installed the nVidia driver for the GForce FX graphics card
 for linux, and installation and everything went fine, and it told me to
 change the XF86Config file to use the new driver. And so I did, and
 restarted the X server, and now what happens is the screen flickers a
 couple of times, and it give me an error message saying it couldn't start X
 Server because the nVidia kernal failed to initialize. So I go to it's
 documentation page, and it says this isn't the fault of linux's kernal, but
 it's the fault of the nVidia kernal, and could be due to the fact that it's
 module isn't loaded. So, using the terminal X Server-less, I browse to
 /sbin/ like it says and I do insmod nvidia, and then modprobe nvidia. It
 loads successfully, but when I start up X server ('xdm' in the command
 line) the screen just goes blank, and I have to restart to get out of it. I
 was also wanting to know if there is any text editors that work without X
 Server, so incase if theres nothing I can do about it I can just edit the
 XF86Config back to what it was. Thanks.

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Re: [newbie] Find the Source!

2003-07-15 Per discussione Cody Harris
Full duplex is like a phone, half-duplex is like walkie talkies.

- Original Message - 
From: James Henry Maiewski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 12:49 AM
Subject: [newbie] Find the Source!


 Hello,

 I'm trying to install the source code for Krec (K - Multimedia -
Sound -
 Krec), which I believe is in kdemultimedia-3.1-10mdk.src.rpm.  I've done
 this and haven't the foggiest idea where it was installed (if, indeed,
this
 was the source).  grpmi tells me that everything was installed, but there
is
 nothing in /usr/src, and the find file tool gives me nothing (although I'm
 unclear what the files might be called, and I can't seem to get rpmdrake
to
 acknowledge any source excepting the kernel).  How stupid am I?

 By the way, has anyone successfully recorded anything via Krec?  I can
record
 with a C program I copied from the 1996 LINUX Multimedia Guide by Jeff
 Tranter (O'Reilly), but not with Krec.

 Relatedly, what exactly is the difference does enable full duplex make?
 Krec requires it, but my homespun won't work at all.

 With an advance of thanks,
 -Jim








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[newbie] Win4Lin vs WINE

2003-07-15 Per discussione Harv Nelson
I'm one step closer to dumping the Windows box altogether.

Is there any advantage to Win4Lin over WINE?  Are they pretty much 
the same thing?

Is there any advantage to using one over the other ... or both?

Any other cautions, caveats, evaluations, comments you'd care to give 
are much appreciated.

Thanks

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Re: [newbie] Win4Lin vs WINE

2003-07-15 Per discussione John Drouhard
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:51:46 -0500
Harv Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm one step closer to dumping the Windows box altogether.
 
 Is there any advantage to Win4Lin over WINE?  Are they pretty much 
 the same thing?
 
 Is there any advantage to using one over the other ... or both?
 
 Any other cautions, caveats, evaluations, comments you'd care to give 
 are much appreciated.
 
 Thanks
 
 Harv/AI9NL

What exactly do you plan to be doing with windows programs? Games?
Office applications? With Win4Lin, you need a windows os cd, because you
actually install a windows system to your linux partition. You then run
Windows like a linux application, and the desktop, start menu, and
taskbar appears at the bottom. It does a nice job doing office
applications, but may be a little more than what you need.

With Wine, you can run office apps from an existing windows partition,
or if that isn't there, you can just install the office app by issuing
the wine command. There is no installation of windows necessary.
Codeweavers has a product called Crossover Office that can run Adobe
Photoshop, MIcrosoft Office XP, Office 2000, and Office 97, Lotus Notes,
and some others. It's not quite as expensive as Win4Lin, and does its
job well. The best part is that it has a nice, easy to understand GUI to
install programs.


The free version of wine may have support for Microsoft
Office, but I'm not completely sure.

HTH,
John Drouhard


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Re: [newbie] Win4Lin vs WINE

2003-07-15 Per discussione Cody Harris
So Win4Lin is like VPC for Win?
- Original Message - 
From: John Drouhard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Win4Lin vs WINE


 On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:51:46 -0500
 Harv Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I'm one step closer to dumping the Windows box altogether.
 
  Is there any advantage to Win4Lin over WINE?  Are they pretty much
  the same thing?
 
  Is there any advantage to using one over the other ... or both?
 
  Any other cautions, caveats, evaluations, comments you'd care to give
  are much appreciated.
 
  Thanks
 
  Harv/AI9NL

 What exactly do you plan to be doing with windows programs? Games?
 Office applications? With Win4Lin, you need a windows os cd, because you
 actually install a windows system to your linux partition. You then run
 Windows like a linux application, and the desktop, start menu, and
 taskbar appears at the bottom. It does a nice job doing office
 applications, but may be a little more than what you need.

 With Wine, you can run office apps from an existing windows partition,
 or if that isn't there, you can just install the office app by issuing
 the wine command. There is no installation of windows necessary.
 Codeweavers has a product called Crossover Office that can run Adobe
 Photoshop, MIcrosoft Office XP, Office 2000, and Office 97, Lotus Notes,
 and some others. It's not quite as expensive as Win4Lin, and does its
 job well. The best part is that it has a nice, easy to understand GUI to
 install programs.


 The free version of wine may have support for Microsoft
 Office, but I'm not completely sure.

 HTH,
 John Drouhard


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RE: [newbie] Win4Lin vs WINE

2003-07-15 Per discussione Grant

I've got to add that I use Win4Lin and I love it.

- Grant

 
  I'm one step closer to dumping the Windows box altogether.
  
  Is there any advantage to Win4Lin over WINE?  Are they pretty much 
  the same thing?
  
  Is there any advantage to using one over the other ... or both?
  
  Any other cautions, caveats, evaluations, comments you'd care to give 
  are much appreciated.
  
  Thanks
  
  Harv/AI9NL
 
 What exactly do you plan to be doing with windows programs? Games?
 Office applications? With Win4Lin, you need a windows os cd, because you
 actually install a windows system to your linux partition. You then run
 Windows like a linux application, and the desktop, start menu, and
 taskbar appears at the bottom. It does a nice job doing office
 applications, but may be a little more than what you need.
 
 With Wine, you can run office apps from an existing windows partition,
 or if that isn't there, you can just install the office app by issuing
 the wine command. There is no installation of windows necessary.
 Codeweavers has a product called Crossover Office that can run Adobe
 Photoshop, MIcrosoft Office XP, Office 2000, and Office 97, Lotus Notes,
 and some others. It's not quite as expensive as Win4Lin, and does its
 job well. The best part is that it has a nice, easy to understand GUI to
 install programs.
 
 
 The free version of wine may have support for Microsoft
 Office, but I'm not completely sure.
 
 HTH,
 John Drouhard
 
 
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Re: [newbie] Win4Lin vs WINE

2003-07-15 Per discussione John Drouhard
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 21:42:06 -0300
Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So Win4Lin is like VPC for Win?

Basically. It can't run linux inside of windows like VPC can, and the
core code is different. AFAIK, It does the same thing. Correct me if I'm
wrong.

John Drouhard

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Re: [newbie] sylpheed-0.9.3claws rpms

2003-07-15 Per discussione John Drouhard
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 08:00:35 -0400
Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 For any who might be interested the following Mdk-9.1 rpms for
 sylpheed-0.9.3claws can be dled from my web site (see sig for URL)
 
 sylpheed-claws-0.9.3claws-1mdk.i586.rpm
 sylpheed-claws-dillo_viewer-plugin-0.9.3claws-1mdk.i586.rpm
 sylpheed-claws-clamav-plugin-0.9.3claws-1mdk.i586.rpm
 sylpheed-claws-ghostscript_viewer-plugin-0.9.3claws-1mdk.i586.rpm
 sylpheed-claws-image_viewer-plugin-0.9.3claws-1mdk.i586.rpm
 sylpheed-claws-spamassassin-plugin-0.9.3claws-1mdk.i586.rpm
 sylpheed-claws-trayicon-plugin-0.9.3claws-1mdk.i586.rpm
 

Are there any differences from 0.9.0?

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Re: [newbie] Win4Lin vs WINE

2003-07-15 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 10:42, Cody Harris wrote:
 So Win4Lin is like VPC for Win?

No. VMWare is like VPC; WINE and Win4Lin are layers that allow you to
natively run the Windows applications.

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[newbie] change case

2003-07-15 Per discussione Chris
At one time a long ways back someone posted, I think it was a small script 
file to change the case of file extensions, ie..MP3 to .mp3.  Does anyone 
have that laying around?  I've been googling and found a few, but none seem 
to work correctly.

Thanks
Chris

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Re: [newbie] Win4Lin vs WINE

2003-07-15 Per discussione Paul Kaplan
I got wine to run Excel 97  Word 97 (at least for what I was doing using the 
RPMs that came with Mandrake 9.0, but something got broken in LM9.1  I do use 
Crossover Office for several windows apps at work and it does an impressive 
job under 9.1.  Office XP apps are at least as fast as under W2K, and most 
features work.  AFAIK CX is basically an installer program under wine for 
windows apps that sets up a fakewindows (win98) directory to do so.  There 
are some gaps once you get away from the programs reported to work...Outlook 
XP is really buggy...Outlook 2K is workable as an e-mail client, but there's 
problems using some of the advanced features of MS Exchange...upgrading 
internet exploder 5.0 to 128 key encryption has been a no go...forget ms 
project or any other project management package.

What are your requirements?
Paul


On Tuesday 15 July 2003 20:37, John Drouhard wrote:
 On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:51:46 -0500

 Harv Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm one step closer to dumping the Windows box altogether.
 
  Is there any advantage to Win4Lin over WINE?  Are they pretty much
  the same thing?
 
  Is there any advantage to using one over the other ... or both?
 
  Any other cautions, caveats, evaluations, comments you'd care to give
  are much appreciated.
 
  Thanks
 
  Harv/AI9NL

 What exactly do you plan to be doing with windows programs? Games?
 Office applications? With Win4Lin, you need a windows os cd, because you
 actually install a windows system to your linux partition. You then run
 Windows like a linux application, and the desktop, start menu, and
 taskbar appears at the bottom. It does a nice job doing office
 applications, but may be a little more than what you need.

 With Wine, you can run office apps from an existing windows partition,
 or if that isn't there, you can just install the office app by issuing
 the wine command. There is no installation of windows necessary.
 Codeweavers has a product called Crossover Office that can run Adobe
 Photoshop, MIcrosoft Office XP, Office 2000, and Office 97, Lotus Notes,
 and some others. It's not quite as expensive as Win4Lin, and does its
 job well. The best part is that it has a nice, easy to understand GUI to
 install programs.


 The free version of wine may have support for Microsoft
 Office, but I'm not completely sure.

 HTH,
 John Drouhard


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Re: [newbie] Find the Source!

2003-07-15 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2003-07-12 at 13:49, James Henry Maiewski wrote:
 Hello,
 
   I'm trying to install the source code for Krec (K - Multimedia - Sound - 
 Krec), which I believe is in kdemultimedia-3.1-10mdk.src.rpm.  I've done 
 this and haven't the foggiest idea where it was installed (if, indeed,  this 
 was the source).

Whenever you install a src file, it lives under:

/usr/src/RPM/SOURCES

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RE: [newbie] Win4Lin vs WINE

2003-07-15 Per discussione Grant
What is VPC?

  So Win4Lin is like VPC for Win?
 
 Basically. It can't run linux inside of windows like VPC can, and the
 core code is different. AFAIK, It does the same thing. Correct me if I'm
 wrong.
 
 John Drouhard
 
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[newbie] change case

2003-07-15 Per discussione Chris
Please disregard my last message, I was looking for chgcase when I should have 
been looking for chcase.  Found it.

Chris

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Re: [newbie] Win4Lin vs WINE

2003-07-15 Per discussione Cody Harris
VPC stands for Virtual PC. You can run any OS in a window and run more then
on OS at once. Right now it's for Windows, Mac, And OS/2 only.

http://vectec.net/vpc2.png

- Original Message - 
From: Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 10:27 PM
Subject: RE: [newbie] Win4Lin vs WINE


 What is VPC?

   So Win4Lin is like VPC for Win?
 
  Basically. It can't run linux inside of windows like VPC can, and the
  core code is different. AFAIK, It does the same thing. Correct me if I'm
  wrong.
 
  John Drouhard
 
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[newbie] Scroll steps in Ximain Evolution

2003-07-15 Per discussione Brant Fitzsimmons
Hello,

Does anyone here know how to change the number of scroll step lines in 
Evolution and Galeon?

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Re: [newbie] change case

2003-07-15 Per discussione Todd Slater
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 20:35:15 -0500
Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At one time a long ways back someone posted, I think it was a small
 script file to change the case of file extensions, ie..MP3 to .mp3. 
 Does anyone have that laying around?  I've been googling and found a
 few, but none seem to work correctly.
 
 Thanks
 Chris

Do you have a lot of different extensions you want to change? This can
give you an idea, changing *only* the extension to lowercase. Works with
files with spaces in the name, too. Test it first, then uncomment the mv
line.

#/bin/bash
for i in *.MP3
do
name=`echo $i |sed s/'.MP3'//`
ext=.mp3
echo $i : $name$ext
#   mv $i $name$ext
done


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Re: [newbie] Win4Lin vs WINE

2003-07-15 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 09:51, Harv Nelson wrote:
 I'm one step closer to dumping the Windows box altogether.
 
 Is there any advantage to Win4Lin over WINE?  Are they pretty much 
 the same thing?
 
 Is there any advantage to using one over the other ... or both?
 
 Any other cautions, caveats, evaluations, comments you'd care to give 
 are much appreciated.
 
 Thanks
 
 Harv/AI9NL

Alot of this decision depends on what application(s) you're wanting to
run under linux; and you also need to find out if there is a suitable
replacement for what you're trying to accomplish.

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Re: [newbie] change case

2003-07-15 Per discussione Todd Slater
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 20:35:15 -0500
Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At one time a long ways back someone posted, I think it was a small
 script file to change the case of file extensions, ie..MP3 to .mp3. 
 Does anyone have that laying around?  I've been googling and found a
 few, but none seem to work correctly.
 
 Thanks
 Chris

Or, to change *all* extensions to lowercase:
(assuming you are in the directory you want to do this)

#/bin/bash
for i in *
do
name=`echo $i|cut -d '.' -f 1`
ext=.`echo $i|cut -d '.' -f 2|tr [A-Z] [a-z]`
echo $i : $name$ext
#   mv $i $name$ext
done

Assuming that your filenames don't have '.' in the name other than to
denote extension.

Todd

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[newbie] Reboot Window (KDE)

2003-07-15 Per discussione Mike Adolf
I asked this question before by my email went down and could not get a reply.

Selecting logout from KDE (mandrake 9.1) you get an opportunity to reboot. If 
you choose to do so, sometimes you get a window with a dragon and three 
choices, sometimes you get the same OS list displayed by lilo, and sometimes 
you just get a 3 inch square blank window.  What is really supposed to 
happen?

There was a similiar cooker question in the archives but no response.

mike

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Re: [newbie] Find the Source!

2003-07-15 Per discussione Pilagá
El Sáb 12 Jul 2003 00:49, James Henry Maiewski escribió:
 Hello,
   By the way, has anyone successfully recorded anything via Krec?  I can
 record with a C program I copied from the 1996 LINUX Multimedia Guide by
 Jeff Tranter (O'Reilly), but not with Krec.

Jim: If you want the best Linux app to record and edit sound, just go to:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=5056release_id=171499
and d'l 'rezound-0.8.3beta-1.i586.rpm'

Then, in a console, log as root and enter (without quotes) 'rpm -ivh --test 
rezound-0.8.3beta-1.i586.rpm'

If everything is OK, enter: 'rpm -ivh rezound-0.8.3beta-1.i586.rpm'

Finally, 'rezound', et voilá.

 With an advance of thanks,
   -Jim

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Re: [newbie] change case

2003-07-15 Per discussione Chris
On Tuesday 15 July 2003 09:09 pm, Todd Slater wrote:
 On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 20:35:15 -0500

 Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  At one time a long ways back someone posted, I think it was a small
  script file to change the case of file extensions, ie..MP3 to .mp3.
  Does anyone have that laying around?  I've been googling and found a
  few, but none seem to work correctly.
 
  Thanks
  Chris

 Do you have a lot of different extensions you want to change? This can
 give you an idea, changing *only* the extension to lowercase. Works with
 files with spaces in the name, too. Test it first, then uncomment the mv
 line.

 #/bin/bash
 for i in *.MP3
 do
 name=`echo $i |sed s/'.MP3'//`
 ext=.mp3
 echo $i : $name$ext
 #   mv $i $name$ext
 done


 Todd

Boy, the mail is really a mess, this came in after the message I just replied 
to.  Maybe thats my problem.

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Re: [newbie] sylpheed-0.9.3claws rpms

2003-07-15 Per discussione Todd Slater
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 08:00:35 -0400
Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 For any who might be interested the following Mdk-9.1 rpms for
 sylpheed-0.9.3claws can be dled from my web site (see sig for URL)

I just built an RPM (9.1) for Bogofilter, a Bayesian filtering system
which goes nicely with Sylpheed. It can also work with procmail for
users of other MUA's.

http://clevername.homeip.net/mdk/

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Re: [newbie] change case

2003-07-15 Per discussione Todd Slater
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 21:53:15 -0500
Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tuesday 15 July 2003 09:25 pm, Todd Slater wrote:
  On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 20:35:15 -0500
 
  Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   At one time a long ways back someone posted, I think it was a
   small script file to change the case of file extensions, ie..MP3
   to .mp3. Does anyone have that laying around?  I've been googling
   and found a few, but none seem to work correctly.
  
   Thanks
   Chris
 
  Or, to change *all* extensions to lowercase:
  (assuming you are in the directory you want to do this)
 
  #/bin/bash
  for i in *
  do
  name=`echo $i|cut -d '.' -f 1`
  ext=.`echo $i|cut -d '.' -f 2|tr [A-Z] [a-z]`
  echo $i : $name$ext
  #   mv $i $name$ext
  done
 
  Assuming that your filenames don't have '.' in the name other than
  to denote extension.
 
  Todd
 
 Thanks Todd, this looks more like what I want, have a slight problem
 though as shown below with the output:
 
 usr/local/bin/chgcase: line 4: Â : command not found
 /usr/local/bin/chgcase: line 5: Â : command not found
 /usr/local/bin/chgcase: line 6: Â : command not found
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ACDC - High Voltage]$
 
 Made it executable, made a symbolic link from /home/chris to
 /usr/local/bin.  When run chgcase *.MP3 *.mp3 the output is as above. 
 I'm sure I've used this script before but I don't remembe how.
 
 Thanks
 Chris

Hi Chris,

You don't have to add any arguments to the script I wrote, just run it.
Note that it will change the extension for *all* files in the directory,
so .DOC  .doc, .PDF  .pdf etc. I sent another script that hasn't been
distributed yet for *just* .MP3 to.mp3. Here it is again in case it got
lost.

#/bin/bash
for i in *.MP3
do
name=`echo $i |sed s/'.MP3'//`
ext=.mp3
echo $i : $name$ext
#   mv $i $name$ext
done


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Re: [newbie] Find the Source!

2003-07-15 Per discussione Brant Fitzsimmons
Pilagá wrote:

El Sáb 12 Jul 2003 00:49, James Henry Maiewski escribió:
 

Hello,
	By the way, has anyone successfully recorded anything via Krec?  I can
record with a C program I copied from the 1996 LINUX Multimedia Guide by
Jeff Tranter (O'Reilly), but not with Krec.
   

Jim: If you want the best Linux app to record and edit sound, just go to:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=5056release_id=171499
and d'l 'rezound-0.8.3beta-1.i586.rpm'
	Then, in a console, log as root and enter (without quotes) 'rpm -ivh --test 
rezound-0.8.3beta-1.i586.rpm'

	If everything is OK, enter: 'rpm -ivh rezound-0.8.3beta-1.i586.rpm'

	Finally, 'rezound', et voilá.

I like it already.  This may be my favorite Linux sound editing app 
yet.  Linux sound editing apps have a long way to go to equal Windows 
apps like Cool Edit Pro and Soundforge.  It's nice to see some apps with 
promise.

 

With an advance of thanks,
	-Jim
   

	Suerte
 



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Re: [newbie] Win4Lin vs WINE

2003-07-15 Per discussione Roland Hughes
Has anyone managed to get TaxCut to work under wine? This would allow me to 
get rid of my last windows partition.
Roly

On Tuesday 15 July 2003 06:28 pm, Paul Kaplan wrote:
 I got wine to run Excel 97  Word 97 (at least for what I was doing using
 the RPMs that came with Mandrake 9.0, but something got broken in LM9.1  I
 do use Crossover Office for several windows apps at work and it does an
 impressive job under 9.1.  Office XP apps are at least as fast as under
 W2K, and most features work.  AFAIK CX is basically an installer program
 under wine for windows apps that sets up a fakewindows (win98) directory to
 do so.  There are some gaps once you get away from the programs reported to
 work...Outlook XP is really buggy...Outlook 2K is workable as an e-mail
 client, but there's problems using some of the advanced features of MS
 Exchange...upgrading internet exploder 5.0 to 128 key encryption has been a
 no go...forget ms project or any other project management package.

 What are your requirements?
 Paul

 On Tuesday 15 July 2003 20:37, John Drouhard wrote:
  On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:51:46 -0500
 
  Harv Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I'm one step closer to dumping the Windows box altogether.
  
   Is there any advantage to Win4Lin over WINE?  Are they pretty much
   the same thing?
  
   Is there any advantage to using one over the other ... or both?
  
   Any other cautions, caveats, evaluations, comments you'd care to give
   are much appreciated.
  
   Thanks
  
   Harv/AI9NL
 
  What exactly do you plan to be doing with windows programs? Games?
  Office applications? With Win4Lin, you need a windows os cd, because you
  actually install a windows system to your linux partition. You then run
  Windows like a linux application, and the desktop, start menu, and
  taskbar appears at the bottom. It does a nice job doing office
  applications, but may be a little more than what you need.
 
  With Wine, you can run office apps from an existing windows partition,
  or if that isn't there, you can just install the office app by issuing
  the wine command. There is no installation of windows necessary.
  Codeweavers has a product called Crossover Office that can run Adobe
  Photoshop, MIcrosoft Office XP, Office 2000, and Office 97, Lotus Notes,
  and some others. It's not quite as expensive as Win4Lin, and does its
  job well. The best part is that it has a nice, easy to understand GUI to
  install programs.
 
 
  The free version of wine may have support for Microsoft
  Office, but I'm not completely sure.
 
  HTH,
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Re: [newbie] nVidia driver fails to initialize at startup

2003-07-15 Per discussione Pilagá
  Gah, another problem:
  I just recently installed the nVidia driver for the GForce FX graphics
  card for linux, and installation and everything went fine, and it told me
  to change the XF86Config file to use the new driver. And so I did, and
  restarted the X server, and now what happens is the screen flickers a
  couple of times, and it give me an error message saying it couldn't start
  X Server because the nVidia kernal failed to initialize. So I go to it's
  documentation page, and it says this isn't the fault of linux's kernal,
  but it's the fault of the nVidia kernal, and could be due to the fact
  that it's module isn't loaded. So, using the terminal X Server-less, I
  browse to /sbin/ like it says and I do insmod nvidia, and then modprobe
  nvidia. It loads successfully, but when I start up X server ('xdm' in the
  command line) the screen just goes blank, and I have to restart to get
  out of it. I was also wanting to know if there is any text editors that
  work without X Server, so incase if theres nothing I can do about it I
  can just edit the XF86Config back to what it was. Thanks.

Try this way: enter BIOS Setup and enable: 'Assign IRQ to VGA'

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Re: [newbie] change case

2003-07-15 Per discussione Chris
On Tuesday 15 July 2003 09:09 pm, Todd Slater wrote:
 On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 20:35:15 -0500

 Do you have a lot of different extensions you want to change? This can
 give you an idea, changing *only* the extension to lowercase. Works with
 files with spaces in the name, too. Test it first, then uncomment the mv
 line.

 #/bin/bash
 for i in *.MP3
 do
 name=`echo $i |sed s/'.MP3'//`
 ext=.mp3
 echo $i : $name$ext
 #   mv $i $name$ext
 done


 Todd

That worked great Todd, excatly what I'm looking for.  Chcase is nice, but it 
changes the comple file name to lower case, of course the author says to use 
perl expressions to limit this, but thats beyond stil at this point.  This 
does excatly what I want.

Thanks again
Chris

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Re: [newbie] change case

2003-07-15 Per discussione Chris
On Tuesday 15 July 2003 09:25 pm, Todd Slater wrote:
 On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 20:35:15 -0500

 Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  At one time a long ways back someone posted, I think it was a small
  script file to change the case of file extensions, ie..MP3 to .mp3.
  Does anyone have that laying around?  I've been googling and found a
  few, but none seem to work correctly.
 
  Thanks
  Chris

 Or, to change *all* extensions to lowercase:
 (assuming you are in the directory you want to do this)

 #/bin/bash
 for i in *
 do
 name=`echo $i|cut -d '.' -f 1`
 ext=.`echo $i|cut -d '.' -f 2|tr [A-Z] [a-z]`
 echo $i : $name$ext
 #   mv $i $name$ext
 done

 Assuming that your filenames don't have '.' in the name other than to
 denote extension.

 Todd

Thanks Todd, this looks more like what I want, have a slight problem though as 
shown below with the output:

usr/local/bin/chgcase: line 4: Â : command not found
/usr/local/bin/chgcase: line 5: Â : command not found
/usr/local/bin/chgcase: line 6: Â : command not found
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ACDC - High Voltage]$

Made it executable, made a symbolic link from /home/chris to /usr/local/bin.  
When run chgcase *.MP3 *.mp3 the output is as above.  I'm sure I've used this 
script before but I don't remembe how.

Thanks
Chris

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Re: [newbie] Win4Lin vs WINE

2003-07-15 Per discussione aron smith
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 19:30, Roland Hughes wrote:
 Has anyone managed to get TaxCut to work under wine? This would allow me to 
 get rid of my last windows partition.
 Roly
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[newbie] Fax, any fax software

2003-07-15 Per discussione owenb
I've never installed any software.  The KdeprintFax software that came 
installed with 9.1 isn't working.
Can any one tell me step by step how to install a fax software package.  
It doesn't matter what package as long as I can get it to work. 
I never wrote a batch file so I'm as ignorant as they come.
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RE: [newbie] Win4Lin vs WINE

2003-07-15 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 11:27, Grant wrote:
 What is VPC?

VPC (Virtual PC) is a software program for Macintosh/Apple computers
that creates a virtual pc - an emulated x86 architecture - but with
Windows98 installed (although you can set it up to run almost anything
x86 based); it has been very popular in the corporate environment where
you had Macintosh machines that had to either run x86 compatible
software, or Windows based software.

VMWare is basically the same thing (and there are a few other x86
emulation packages out there - Bochs x86 is another) whereby you have an
emulated virtual computer in a window - and can install any OS you
desire within that emulated environment. Great for testing, or for
sandboxing - for security or application/network development.

I used to use VPC on my iBook (when I had an iBook) so that I could do
all my network administration tasks, along with run every bit of MS
software that I had to run; so the iBook became literally completely
cross-platform.

 
   So Win4Lin is like VPC for Win?
  
  Basically. It can't run linux inside of windows like VPC can, and the
  core code is different. AFAIK, It does the same thing. Correct me if I'm
  wrong.
  
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Re: [newbie] Standard Out Redirecting

2003-07-15 Per discussione Eric Huff
You could try
java -version 1 test 2 test.error
to see if for some reason it sends the info to stderr

eric

 I am trying to redirect the version output of Java on a computer.  I
 run the command:
 
 java -version  test
 
 The commandline will then print out the version of Java and test
 will have nothing in it.
 
 Is there some other way to capture the version?  I am putting this in
 a script to check if a computer needs a newer version of Java before a
 program can be ran.  

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Re: [newbie] sylpheed-0.9.3claws rpms

2003-07-15 Per discussione Eric Huff
Hi Charles,

This never made it to the expert list.
It's a bug in the mandrake server, so the only wayt to cross post is to
send sep emails.

eric

On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 08:00:35 -0400
Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 For any who might be interested the following Mdk-9.1 rpms for
 sylpheed-0.9.3claws can be dled from my web site (see sig for URL)
 
 sylpheed-claws-0.9.3claws-1mdk.i586.rpm
 sylpheed-claws-dillo_viewer-plugin-0.9.3claws-1mdk.i586.rpm
 sylpheed-claws-clamav-plugin-0.9.3claws-1mdk.i586.rpm
 sylpheed-claws-ghostscript_viewer-plugin-0.9.3claws-1mdk.i586.rpm
 sylpheed-claws-image_viewer-plugin-0.9.3claws-1mdk.i586.rpm
 sylpheed-claws-spamassassin-plugin-0.9.3claws-1mdk.i586.rpm
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[newbie] Kmails address book?

2003-07-15 Per discussione Ronald J. Hall
I know that Kmail uses Kaddressbook, but where do they store the e-mail 
addresses at?

I did an export list but I'd still like to know where. I looked in 
/home/darklord/.kde/share/apps/kmail and kaddressbook, but there is nothing 
really there. I also looked in /usr/share/apps/kmail and kaddressbook.

Thanks!

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Re: [newbie] ACPI on MDK 9.0

2003-07-15 Per discussione Eric Huff
On my computer, i can turn acpi on or off t will, but when it is on, my
parallel port goes away.

Maybe you have some other conflict that is keeping acpi from turning on?

I never figured out what my conflict is, so maybe when you solve your
prob, it will help me as well...

eric

 I am trying to get ACPI working on my box but I am having some
 troubles. On the booting sequence, when acpi is tried to be loaded, I
 have this error message:
 
 acpid: can't open /proc/acpi/event: Notsuch file or directory
 
 I checked /proc folder and there is no even /proc/acpi folder. Any
 ideas why? I am using kernel 2.4.19-16mdk. Do I need to upgrade it? I
 rather not to do so but if it is needed...

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Re: [newbie] Kmails address book?

2003-07-15 Per discussione Brant Fitzsimmons
Ronald J. Hall wrote:

I know that Kmail uses Kaddressbook, but where do they store the e-mail 
addresses at?

I did an export list but I'd still like to know where. I looked in 
/home/darklord/.kde/share/apps/kmail and kaddressbook, but there is nothing 
really there. I also looked in /usr/share/apps/kmail and kaddressbook.

Thanks!
 

~/.kde/share/apps/kabc

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Re: [newbie] Kmails address book?

2003-07-15 Per discussione Brant Fitzsimmons
Ronald J. Hall wrote:

I know that Kmail uses Kaddressbook, but where do they store the e-mail 
addresses at?

I did an export list but I'd still like to know where. I looked in 
/home/darklord/.kde/share/apps/kmail and kaddressbook, but there is nothing 
really there. I also looked in /usr/share/apps/kmail and kaddressbook.

Thanks!
 

~/.kde/share/apps/kabc/*.vcf

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Re: [newbie] Win4Lin vs WINE

2003-07-15 Per discussione Roland Hughes
It worked fine under windows but I want to get rid of that.
Roly

On Tuesday 15 July 2003 08:44 pm, aron smith wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 19:30, Roland Hughes wrote:
  Has anyone managed to get TaxCut to work under wine? This would allow
  me to get rid of my last windows partition.
  Roly

 Hell I had enough trouble getting Tax Cut to work under Win98

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Re: [newbie] Fax, any fax software

2003-07-15 Per discussione Pilagá
El Mié 16 Jul 2003 01:00, owenb escribió:
 I've never installed any software.  The KdeprintFax software that came
 installed with 9.1 isn't working.
 Can any one tell me step by step how to install a fax software package.
 It doesn't matter what package as long as I can get it to work.
 I never wrote a batch file so I'm as ignorant as they come.
 Owen

Hola, Owen: You don't need a batch file, I'm using KdeprintFax every day 
without troubles. What you get when you try to send the fax. Some errors...? 
Post it here.

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Re: [newbie] OT: favorite spyware seeker for windows: Thanks forthe info

2003-07-15 Per discussione Eric Huff
 Why not just install Mandrake without telling 'em ;p

Good one! :)


Thanks for all the responses, folks.

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