Re: [newbie-it] urpmi

2003-09-16 Per discussione Rev.Ferris
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Alle 18:18, lunedì 15 settembre 2003, Germano ha scritto:
 Non capisco il punto esclamativo visto che tu hai detto che wget non
 ti funzionava per problemi di firewall e poi chiedi perchè non ti
 funzioni curl: usando entrambi la stessa porta o hanno tutti e due lo
 stesso problema, ed allora ti sei già risposto, oppure il problema
 non riguarda il firewall e quindi wget ti deve funzionare.

Sì, non funzionano entrambi, infatti non capisco perché richiami curl 
dato che io non lo chiedo e tutto quello che mi serve è sapere come non 
fargli invoncare curl.

[...]
 Detto questo urpmi non ha mai avuto bugs finora quindi io
 ricontrollerei la lista dei sorgenti con

 edit-urpm-sources.pl

 e casomai mandarei un listato di quello che ottieni quando lanci
 urpmi da console.

Questo è il listato: (ho upgradato dalla 9.0 power pack quindi 7+3 
sorgenti, uno locale (dove scarico gli rpm),  un update 
(ftp://ftp.tu-clausthal.de/pub/linux/mandrake/updates/9.1/RPMS), il plf 
(ftp://mandrake-forum.org/pub/PLF/9.1), e un contrib 
(ftp://ftp.vat.tu-dresden.de/pub/Mandrake/9.1/contrib/RPMS):

[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tesi]# urpmi.update -a
[...]
recupero il file descrittivo di update_source...
curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host '2-s'
curl: (7) Connect failed
...recupero terminato
recupero la source hdlist (o una sitntesi) di update_source...
curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host '2-s'
curl: (7) Connect failed

ftp://ftp.tu-clausthal.de/pub/linux/mandrake/updates/9.1/base/hdlist.cz
...recupero terminato
esamino l'hdlist file [/var/cache/urpmi/partial/hdlist.update_source.cz]
recupero il file descrittivo di plf...
recupero la source hdlist (o una sitntesi) di plf...
curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host '2-s'
...
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Re: [newbie-it] urpmi

2003-09-16 Per discussione Rev.Ferris
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Alle 15:33, martedì 16 settembre 2003, Germano ha scritto:

 Sinceramente non so che dirti: o c'è qualcosa che non va in come hai
 configurato le fonti oppure curl ha grossi problemi.
 Continuo a non capire quel mess Couldn't resolve host '2-s' : il
 DNS immagino che ti funzioni a dovere, il comando host c'è di sicuro
 quindi fossi in te, se mi dovesse dare problemi anche wget
 (assicurandosi che sia installato) controllerei l'integrità del
 pacchetto urpmi.

 Ciao, Germano

 P.S: Ma con tanti sources che ci sono in Italia ed in Francia (molto
 + veloci) proprio in Germania ed oltre li hai pescati.
Ti spiego meglio:
sono in uno studentato in cui il proxy e il firewall sono settati per 
non far passare praticamente niente (droppano quasi tutti i tipi di 
pacchetti), e wget anche con il settaggio del proxy non riesce a 
partire. Quindi se non usa wget (pravato diverse volte da solo) e curl, 
con che protocollo scarica?
Diciamo che ormai questo problema, se non mi sbrigo, finirà irrisolto 
dato che a fine mese cambio casa e da lì o non c'è internet o metto io 
una dsl a mie spese (e da lì dovrò veramente decidermi a imparare a 
configurare un buon livello di sicurezza sulla mia macchina!)
Il mistero della scelta delle fonti è presto svelato: sono a me le più 
vicine dato che mi connetto da lì dato che ormai sono stabile qua.
Intanto grazie del tuo interessamento (almeno adesso so che sicuramente 
il mio è un caso isolato e non la norma).

Ciao Luigi

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[newbie-it] Mandrake 9.1 e samba

2003-09-16 Per discussione Giacomo
Sto cercando di configurare samba sotto linux mandrake, ma non mi riesce di 
farlo funzionare usando il tool del mcc.
devo fare qualche piccolo accorgimento? che altre informazioni vi posso dare?




Re: [newbie-it] Mandrake 9.1 e samba

2003-09-16 Per discussione freefred
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On Tuesday 16 September 2003 17:49, Giacomo wrote:
 Sto cercando di configurare samba sotto linux mandrake, ma non mi riesce di
 farlo funzionare usando il tool del mcc.
 devo fare qualche piccolo accorgimento? che altre informazioni vi posso
 dare?

configurazione della rete.
in che modo non ti funziona.
samba e' attivo?
Insomma, tutte le info che puoi:-)

bye

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Re: [newbie-it] Mandrake 9.1 e samba

2003-09-16 Per discussione Giacomo
Alle 19:56, martedì 16 settembre 2003, freefred ha scritto:
 On Tuesday 16 September 2003 17:49, Giacomo wrote:
  Sto cercando di configurare samba sotto linux mandrake, ma non mi riesce
  di farlo funzionare usando il tool del mcc.
  devo fare qualche piccolo accorgimento? che altre informazioni vi posso
  dare?

 configurazione della rete.
 in che modo non ti funziona.
 samba e' attivo?
 Insomma, tutte le info che puoi:-)

 bye

ho risolto, grazie lo stesso ;)
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Re: [newbie-it] urpmi

2003-09-16 Per discussione Germano
il Tuesday 16 September 2003 17:43, si è scritto riguardo a Re: [newbie-it] 
urpmi
Alle 15:33, martedì 16 settembre 2003, Germano ha scritto:
 Sinceramente non so che dirti: o c'è qualcosa che non va in come hai
 configurato le fonti oppure curl ha grossi problemi.
 Continuo a non capire quel mess Couldn't resolve host '2-s' : il
 DNS immagino che ti funzioni a dovere, il comando host c'è di sicuro
 quindi fossi in te, se mi dovesse dare problemi anche wget
 (assicurandosi che sia installato) controllerei l'integrità del
 pacchetto urpmi.

 Ciao, Germano

 P.S: Ma con tanti sources che ci sono in Italia ed in Francia (molto
 + veloci) proprio in Germania ed oltre li hai pescati.

Ti spiego meglio:
sono in uno studentato in cui il proxy e il firewall sono settati per
non far passare praticamente niente (droppano quasi tutti i tipi di
pacchetti), e wget anche con il settaggio del proxy non riesce a
partire. Quindi se non usa wget (pravato diverse volte da solo) e curl,
con che protocollo scarica?

Guarda, anch'io sono all'uni ed anche qui c'è un un firewall ma wget e curl si 
dovrebbero comportare come un normale client ftp.
Ora, se il tuo amministratore ha messo un firewall che blocchi anche questo 
tipo di connessione tanto vale che vi sconnetta dalla rete perchè meno di 
questo non so proprio cosa ci possa essere.
Potrei sbagliarmi ma hai provato a connetterti direttamente a quei siti ad 
esempio con lftp o qualunque browser? Se quello che penso riguardo a wget è 
corretto (e sinceramente non vedo come possa essere diversamente) e cpon lftp 
ti sei connesso allora il problema non è nè di wget nè di curl.


Diciamo che ormai questo problema, se non mi sbrigo, finirà irrisolto
dato che a fine mese cambio casa e da lì o non c'è internet o metto io
una dsl a mie spese (e da lì dovrò veramente decidermi a imparare a
configurare un buon livello di sicurezza sulla mia macchina!)

Per curiosità mi puoi mandare, anche privatamente (anzi...) il tuo

/etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg

così vedo un attimo come è fatto?

Il mistero della scelta delle fonti è presto svelato: sono a me le più
vicine dato che mi connetto da lì dato che ormai sono stabile qua.

Ah, mi era sfuggito.

Intanto grazie del tuo interessamento (almeno adesso so che sicuramente
il mio è un caso isolato e non la norma).

Ciao Luigi

Ciao, Germano



Re: [newbie-it] Mandrake 9.1 e samba

2003-09-16 Per discussione Germano
il Tuesday 16 September 2003 17:49, si è scritto riguardo a [newbie-it] 
Mandrake 9.1  e samba
Sto cercando di configurare samba sotto linux mandrake, ma non mi riesce di
farlo funzionare usando il tool del mcc.
devo fare qualche piccolo accorgimento? che altre informazioni vi posso
 dare?

Hai provato usando il pacchetto samba-swat o il più complesso webadmin?



Re: [newbie-it] conversione formati video

2003-09-16 Per discussione Giorgio Griffon
Rispondo dopo qualche giorno di tentativi e sofferenza... Ho scaricato più 
versioni di avidemux, tutte da compilare, comprese quelle in pacchetto rpm. 
Scompatti l'rpm e ti trovi una cartella da compilare, roba da matti. In ogni 
modo l'ho compilato, legge molto bene i file, ma se provo a salvarli in un 
formato mpeg qualunque mi dice che è stato compilato senza le opzioni  per la 
conversione... il documento readme allegato è sempre vuoto, coma cavolo si fa 
a inventarsi le opzioni? Boh? In ogni modo niente da fare.
L'mplayer non sono proprio riuscito a scaricarlo, non riesco a connettermi al 
server.
Comincio a sentire il peso della sfiga che mi sovrasta.
Poi ho trovato il transcode, funziona a riga di comando e comincia funzionare; 
ci sono molti parametri da sistemare, ma spero di risolvere con quello.
In ogni modo grazie, e se qualcuno ha dritte ulteriori sono ben accette.
Ciao
   Giorgio

Alle 22:22, giovedì 4 settembre 2003, freefred ha scritto:
[...]
 Gli avi puoi comunque trasformarli in divX, rendendoli molto piu' piccoli.
 Lo fa l' mplayer ma se non sbaglio anche avidemux, che e' un discreto
 programma di editing video.


 bye
[...]

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[newbie-it] consiglio per un'installazione

2003-09-16 Per discussione Giorgio Griffon
Ciao a tutti,
ho passato un pomeriggio allucinante assemblando un computer e installando la 
nostra cara mdk per un amico che ho convinto a passare a linux. A parte il 
programma di installazione della 9.1 che si è piantato alla fine come al 
solito (ma a questo ho fatto l'abitudine...), ho avuto gravi problemi con 
l'XFree. Il fatto è che abbiamo provato a riutilizzare una scheda video ormai 
obsoleta, che però sotto cacca98 funzionava, per quanto approssimativamente. 
E' possibile che sia questa la causa del fatto che gli ambienti grafici 
minori come window maker, ice wm, enlightenment funzionano, mentre kde non 
ce la fa a partire? A parte questa scheda (una Virge di cui non sono riuscito 
a capire il modello, e sulla cui RAM neanche XFdrake era sicuro), per il 
resto sono pezzi nuovi e validi: processore Athlon 2200, 256 M di ram. Che 
cos'altro può causare un problema simile?
Ciao e grazie
   Giorgio
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Re: [newbie-it] consiglio per un'installazione

2003-09-16 Per discussione fabio
Alle 23:33, martedì 16 settembre 2003, Giorgio Griffon ha scritto:
 Ciao a tutti,
 ho passato un pomeriggio allucinante assemblando un computer e installando
 la nostra cara mdk per un amico che ho convinto a passare a linux. A parte

 funzionano, mentre kde non ce la fa a partire? A parte questa scheda (una
 Virge di cui non sono riuscito a capire il modello, e sulla cui RAM neanche
 XFdrake era sicuro), per il resto sono pezzi nuovi e validi: processore
 Athlon 2200, 256 M di ram. Che cos'altro può causare un problema simile?
 Ciao e grazie
Giorgio
ho notato che alcune volte, se la scheda non è correttamente rilevata o il 
driver fa un po' acqua, la soluzione migliore in fase di installazione è 
selazionare il driver per scheda VESA. 
bye





Re: [newbie] Re: This SMS message thing is pissing me off

2003-09-16 Per discussione Eric Huff
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 00:15:14 -0400
HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 15:53:59 -0600
 Heather/Femme [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 
  
  It clogged sylpheed enough it couldn't d/l my email.  Finally had to
  make a rule so sylpheed won't even try to retrieve the fucking
  things.
 
 this is pretty ridiculous:
 
 mailfilter: Deleted Sms Message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Short Message
 delivery report, Tue, 16 Sep 2003 00:58:49 +0400. [Score: 100]
 mailfilter: Deleted Sms Message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Short Message
snip
 delivery report, Tue, 16 Sep 2003 07:37:45 +0400. [Score: 100]
 
 is there nothing the list managers can do about this? It overwhelms
 Mailfilter to the point that some actual spam slips thru...

I emailed about it, and the thing is that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not on
the subcription list.

So somebody probably made a .forward or some such to the cel account
that responds improperly to the headers and bounces to From.

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Re: [newbie] Re: This SMS message thing is pissing me off

2003-09-16 Per discussione HaywireMac
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 22:59:08 -0700
Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 I emailed about it, and the thing is that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not on
 the subcription list.
 
 So somebody probably made a .forward or some such to the cel account
 that responds improperly to the headers and bounces to From.

right, but can't they do some filtering right on the list server or
something?

I mean really, this is crazy.

I know this list is not a high priority, it's provided for free, and
really, personally I'm not bothered by it. but jeez...

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Re: [newbie] Updating URPMI itself.

2003-09-16 Per discussione Liechti
 i have no direct answer to your question, but i seem to recall

have a look at rpmseek.com:
http://rpmseek.com/rpm-pl/urpmi.html?hl=comcs=urpmi:PN:0:0:0:0

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Re: [newbie] Virtual Drive

2003-09-16 Per discussione Liechti
[...]
  And if you have a .bin and .cue file, you can use an application called
  binchunk to convert the bin to a .iso file and then mount the ISO as a
  loopback device to access the files.
 
 This app is also known as binchunker or bchunk depending on where you find it

is there any app which converts *.img to *.iso or *.bin?

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Re: [newbie] Updating URPMI itself.

2003-09-16 Per discussione Charlie M.
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September 15, 2003 11:34 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks Stormjumper. My system is in a big mess already (see [newbie]
 Installation problem) and I need my urpmi to continue to work. I
 cannot take the risk of messing up my system even more. Especially
 with the tool that is supposed to help me out of the mess.

 Can somebody please give me a more reassuring answer.

 Thanx,

 Ayoub

Ayoub; the answer to your question is yes, urpmi can be upgrade just as 
with any other package.

Easiest way; since if you already know there's an update available for 
it just open a terminal and as super user (root) type:

urpmi urpmi enter

The dependencies will all be worked out for you. The reason you don't 
see anything specific about it is quite simply that there's no need for 
it. Updates are updates.

HTH
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Re: [newbie] Re: This SMS message thing is pissing me off

2003-09-16 Per discussione Eric Huff
  I emailed about it, and the thing is that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not
  on the subcription list.
  
  So somebody probably made a .forward or some such to the cel account
  that responds improperly to the headers and bounces to From.
 
 right, but can't they do some filtering right on the list server or
 something?

But what should they filter?  The list sends nothing to [EMAIL PROTECTED], so they
can't filter that, and we don't know what the offending address is.

And the responses we get from sms don't go thru the list...

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Re: [newbie] Updating URPMI itself.

2003-09-16 Per discussione Brant Fitzsimmons
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks Stormjumper. My system is in a big mess already (see [newbie] 
Installation problem) and I need my urpmi to continue to work. I 
cannot take the risk of messing up my system even more. Especially 
with the tool that is supposed to help me out of the mess.

Can somebody please give me a more reassuring answer.

Thanx,

Ayoub

Stormjumper wrote:

i have no direct answer to your question, but i seem to recall
mandrake once released an updated rpm for urpmi, and it was installed
properly using urpmi.
so the answer is: probably safe.
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 12:54
Subject: [newbie] Updating URPMI itself.



Hi,
The HOWTOs I read show me how to use urpmi to update programs.

 I need to update urpmi itself. Will it be safe to update urpmi
 the way I updateother programs; using urpmi itself? If that
 is not safe then how do I update urpmi? The HOWTOs do not give
 me an answer to these questions.

Thanx,


Ayoub

[Deleted] 


Using urpmi to update urpmi is just fine.

Just run urpmi urpmi and you're good to go.

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Re: [newbie] Re: This SMS message thing is pissing me off

2003-09-16 Per discussione Liechti
 But what should they filter?  The list sends nothing to [EMAIL PROTECTED], so they
 can't filter that, and we don't know what the offending address is.
 
 And the responses we get from sms don't go thru the list...

contact mandrake and they will have a look at it i think.the list is the 
sainthood of mandrake :)
remo

@MANDRAKE-TEAM: If you're reading this, please have a look at emails with 
subject:

Short Message delivery report from a user called 
Sms Message [EMAIL PROTECTED] with content: There is no such user (newbie).

these messages are pissing us off :(

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[newbie] updating x86

2003-09-16 Per discussione d2ci1fj g1nf24
Hi,
I am using x86 version 4.3.0. I need to update it and do not know how. Would 
somebody tell me how to update it?

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 Features

2003-09-16 Per discussione Charlie M.
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September 15, 2003 11:40 pm, HaywireMac wrote:
 I can't seem to find a list of the features coming with 9.2, ie.
 will it include GTK+2.2, etc.

 Is there somewhere I can find such a list on the Mandrake site?

The closest you might find on a Mandrake site is at:

http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/92beta.php3

Scroll down toward the bottom for a sort of listing of major upgrades. 
Also have a look at the qa wiki:

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/Mandrake92

To answer the question specifically yes and no. g 
The versions of software used at the moment is shown on the mirrors, 
thusly:

gtk+2.0-2.2.4-1mdk.i586.rpm

as shown here:

ftp://ftp.uninett.no/linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/

Since cooker is now in deep freeze there won't be any major version 
upgrades unless required by the bug hunt.

Hope that helps you somewhat.

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Re: [newbie] updating x86 [OT]

2003-09-16 Per discussione Liechti
you're using a funny name... :p
d2ci1fj g1nf24

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Re: [newbie] Re: This SMS message thing is pissing me off

2003-09-16 Per discussione HaywireMac
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 23:28:55 -0700
Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 
 And the responses we get from sms don't go thru the list...

I see. Shite.

I wanna find owner of said offending address and kneecap him/her.

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Re: [newbie] Re: This SMS message thing is pissing me off

2003-09-16 Per discussione Eric Huff
  But what should they filter?  The list sends nothing to [EMAIL PROTECTED], so
  they can't filter that, and we don't know what the offending address
  is.
  
  And the responses we get from sms don't go thru the list...
 
 contact mandrake and they will have a look at it i think.the list is
 the sainthood of mandrake :)
 remo

I did contact them. See above for response.
There doesn't appear to be any way to track it since the bounced message
is effecively blank.

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Re: [newbie] Re: This SMS message thing is pissing me off

2003-09-16 Per discussione Ralph Slooten
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 09:57:59 +1000
Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gosh, Ralph - that's a terribly complex conditional there - have you
 considered patenting it and then selling it to procmail users? I'd
 reckon you could get, say, $19.99 USD for that bit...even make up and
 RPM of the whole thing, ay wot?

LOL Stephen ;-) No, just fond ou the most simple rule which entails copying
and pasting for procmail users (I do presume that most users use procmail?). For
those with e-mail programs that download their mail, I'm sure forwarding rules
can easily be added in proggies like Evolution, kmail and Sylpheed, and probably
the rest too.. I don't know.

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 Features

2003-09-16 Per discussione HaywireMac
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 00:43:05 -0600
Charlie M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 The closest you might find on a Mandrake site is at:
 
 http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/92beta.php3
 
 Scroll down toward the bottom for a sort of listing of major upgrades.
 
 Also have a look at the qa wiki:
 
 http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/Mandrake92

Heh, I just didn't scroll down far enough.

Not much to entice an upgrade, things are pretty much the way I like
'em, I'd like to up to GTK+2.2 so as I can go for the latest version of
ROX filer, but it's no biggie, really. I can always do that the hard
way. The verry hard way...

What I'd really like to see is Gnome 2.4, but that'll be for MDK 10.0,
likely. A bigger buggier KDE is not an attractive enhancement... ;-)

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[newbie] DVD-Rom not detected

2003-09-16 Per discussione Rafael Torres
Hi there.

I have a problem with my Mandrake installation.
I have installed Mandrake 9.1 from the CDs. All the installation process
went
ok.
But after the system rebooted and I have logged in, my dvd-rom drive doesn't
mount.
I opened the mandrake control central and in the hardware section the
dvd-rom drive
has been detected and the new devfs device associated is
/dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/cd but the that dev does
not exists.

How can I fix this? Can anyone help me?
Thanks

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Re: [newbie] Re: This SMS message thing is pissing me off

2003-09-16 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 14:51, HaywireMac wrote:
 On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 22:26:49 +0200
 Ralph Slooten [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 
  
  Worked it out:
  
  :0
  * ^From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ! [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 then how do you send it to /dev/null?

Look at the sample procmailrc I have stored at:

http://thor.prohosting.com/~kilgoret/files/procmailrc

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 Features

2003-09-16 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 15:40, HaywireMac wrote:
 I can't seem to find a list of the features coming with 9.2, ie. will
 it include GTK+2.2, etc.
 
 Is there somewhere I can find such a list on the Mandrake site?

MDK 9.2 is completely featureless - a design in beautiful esoteric zen.
Nothing. Zip. Zero. Null. Doesn't come with file systems or even a
kernel. Nada. With that being the mentality, it will be the fastest
distribution, and the easiest to install.

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Re: [newbie] updating x86 [OT]

2003-09-16 Per discussione d2ci1fj g1nf24



From: Liechti [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] updating x86 [OT]
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 08:50:38 +0200
you're using a funny name... :p
d2ci1fj g1nf24
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I filled it in for another reason and the last three times I tried to go 
into the option folder in hotmail to change it would keep asling me for my 
email and password. I would enter it and it came back up asking me again. I 
have not tried lately but I will try again.
What does [OT] mean?
   
From,

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[newbie] updating x86 with fix

2003-09-16 Per discussione d2ci1fj g1nf24
Hi,
I am trying to update x86, I am using 4.3.0. I do not know what to download 
and how to install it. Would somebody tell me how to install it in detail?
   
From,
 
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[newbie] installing x86 update

2003-09-16 Per discussione Steven Nelson
Hi,
I need to udate x86, the version I am using is 4.3.0. I do not know how to 
install the update or what to download. Would somebody explain to me in 
detail how to do this?

   From,

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Re: [newbie] Re: This SMS message thing is pissing me off

2003-09-16 Per discussione HaywireMac
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 18:10:57 +1000
Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 
 Look at the sample procmailrc I have stored at:
 
 http://thor.prohosting.com/~kilgoret/files/procmailrc

ok, so I've got this ~/.procmailrc:

## SHELL=/bin/sh

# Directory for storing procmail configuration and log files
# You can name this environment variable anything you like
# (for example PROCMAILDIR) or, if you prefer, don't set it
# (but then don't refer to it!)
PMDIR=~/procmail

# LOGFILE should be specified ASAP so everything below it is logged
# Put ## before LOGFILE if you want no logging (not recommended)
LOGFILE=$PMDIR/pmlog

# To insert a blank line between each message's log entry,
# uncomment next two lines (this is helpful for debugging)
LOG=


# Set to yes when debugging; default is no
## VERBOSE=yes

# Replace $HOME/Msgs with your mailbox directory
# Mutt and elm use $HOME/Mail
# Pine uses $HOME/mail
# Netscape Messenger uses $HOME/nsmail
# Some NNTP clients, such as slrn  nn, use $HOME/News
# Mailboxes in maildir format are often put in $HOME/Maildir
#
# IMPORTANT: Upon reading an instruction that contains MAILDIR=,
#Procmail does a chdir to $MAILDIR and
#relative paths are relative to $MAILDIR
MAILDIR=/var/spool/mail   # Make sure this directory exists!

INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/nkvir-rc
INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/kuhn-rc
INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/slooten-rc

where kuhn-rc is:

# It is reliably reported that this single test may kill half your
# spam in one shot:
:0
* !^Message-Id
{
:0
/dev/null
}

and slooten-rc is:

:0
* ^From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
! [EMAIL PROTECTED]
{
:0
/dev/null
}

what I was never clear on is the MAILDIR. Is that to tell procmail where
to look at new mail to process it? I've obviously assumed so, from what
I've put there...but then in the nkvir-rc, it refers to MAILDIR  being
~/mail. Should I have two entries in there?

BTW, why does that kuhn-rc kill half your spam in one shot?

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Re: [newbie] USB mass-storage: HELP!

2003-09-16 Per discussione John Richard Smith
Iwan Binanto wrote:

Hi, I have a digital camera which act like mass
storage when I connected it to my USB. But, I cannot
mount this mass storage to my mount directory.
I  was done step by step some hint how to mount mass
storage drive in linux and I still cannot mount that
thing. The message that I receive is fs not specify.
When I specify a lot of fs type, there is nothing
match.
I'm confuse. Somebody, please help me.
Thx+.
 

What kind ot entry have you got in /etc/fstab for your camera/reader ?

John

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Re: [newbie] Re: This SMS message thing is pissing me off

2003-09-16 Per discussione HaywireMac
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 05:32:40 -0400
HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 PMDIR=~/procmail

oops, changed to $HOME/procmail...heh.

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Re: [newbie] USB mass-storage: HELP!

2003-09-16 Per discussione manolis
don't be optimistic about making your digital camera working with linux ... :(
I had a similar problem with a flash drive in USB and after many posts and 
many many google search I ended up to make a conclusion that my drive IS NOT 
supported from linux.
I have another USB stick that automounts and works fine ... but the first one 
refuses to work.
Rules I made:
-If the device is working fine it will be autodetected by /dev/sd*  structure.
-A device that appears on /dev/ structure doesn't implicity means that IS 
compatible with linux.
-if the device is NOT compatible with linux , it will output error is fs type 
when I try to mount it manually


Sorry for my not-so-optimistic post :)



 Iwan Binanto :
 Hi, I have a digital camera which act like mass
 storage when I connected it to my USB. But, I cannot
 mount this mass storage to my mount directory.
 I  was done step by step some hint how to mount mass
 storage drive in linux and I still cannot mount that
 thing. The message that I receive is fs not specify.
 When I specify a lot of fs type, there is nothing
 match.
 I'm confuse. Somebody, please help me.
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Re: [newbie] DVD-Rom not detected

2003-09-16 Per discussione John Richard Smith
Rafael Torres wrote:

Hi there.

I have a problem with my Mandrake installation.
I have installed Mandrake 9.1 from the CDs. All the installation process
went
ok.
But after the system rebooted and I have logged in, my dvd-rom drive doesn't
mount.
I opened the mandrake control central and in the hardware section the
dvd-rom drive
has been detected and the new devfs device associated is
/dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/cd but the that dev does
not exists.
How can I fix this? Can anyone help me?
Thanks
Rafael M. Torres ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 

When you say doesn't mount do you mean on the CL.
you need to post your /etc/fstab entry for the dvd to check what's 
happening.

John

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Re: [newbie] OT - 3rd Annual Nigerian E-Mail Conference

2003-09-16 Per discussione ed tharp
On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 00:44, HaywireMac wrote:
 On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 20:25:14 -0700
 Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 
  actually I collect them as they are so obvious that I wonder if anyone
  has ever been taken in by a Nigerian letter
 
 I've seen some pretty funny bits where people have actually taken them
 up on the offer but just kept them going in circles, driving them nuts.
 One guy even had them flying to Europe to get the cash and they were
 really pissed when he never showed up.
 
 I've always wanted to respond myself, just to have some fun with them
 with a throw-away e-mail address...

I personally know a real estate broker (millionaire) who had his
secretary send over 4,000.00 before the secretary pitched a bitch and
said she was not going to be any part of it... (the Administrative
Personal Assistant, as she prefers to be called, was my wife, adn I
even got to see the checks, since she was incredulous, this guy who had
made all this money was so freaking stupid. Of course 4 grand to him was
about the tip he gave my wife when he sold some factory. 
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Re: [newbie] Re: This SMS message thing is pissing me off

2003-09-16 Per discussione Ralph Slooten
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 05:32:40 -0400
HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 and slooten-rc is:
 
 :0
 * ^From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ! [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 {
 :0
 /dev/null
 }

Not sure if this will work with the /dev/null part ... as just the lines:

  :0
  * ^From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ! [EMAIL PROTECTED]

forward it to the info address ;-) But this is what I'm doing now stuff
them.

And damn, still some of my messages aren't coming back to me, even though they
are being replied it seems :-/ *sigh* oh well, I know what I wrote :P

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Re: [newbie] Re: This SMS message thing is pissing me off

2003-09-16 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 19:32, HaywireMac wrote:

 what I was never clear on is the MAILDIR.

$MAILDIR = /var/spool/mail (for at least my system)

 BTW, why does that kuhn-rc kill half your spam in one shot?

The one rule is that when you get an email from NO ONE aimed at NO ONE
it deletes the email (or sends it to /dev/null - which is basically the
same thing)

KIM that I'm using a different setup - so my process lookes like:

INBOUND MAIL = PROCMAIL (/etc/procmailrc) -
 PROCMAILRC
 NKVIR-RC
 SPAMASSASSIN
 ADDITIONAL PROCMAILRC
 |
 /home/user/.procmailrc
 |
  $MAILDIR

On one of my customer's machines, I snag 95% of all crap; they're quite
a bit more than just happy over that one, mate.

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Re: [newbie] DVD-Rom not detected

2003-09-16 Per discussione Rafael Torres
OK.

I don't have the pc here. I'll post the /etc/fstab tomorrow.
Ok?

Thanks

Rafael Torres

- Original Message - 
From: John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] DVD-Rom not detected


 Rafael Torres wrote:

 Hi there.
 
 I have a problem with my Mandrake installation.
 I have installed Mandrake 9.1 from the CDs. All the installation process
 went
 ok.
 But after the system rebooted and I have logged in, my dvd-rom drive
doesn't
 mount.
 I opened the mandrake control central and in the hardware section the
 dvd-rom drive
 has been detected and the new devfs device associated is
 /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/cd but the that dev does
 not exists.
 
 How can I fix this? Can anyone help me?
 Thanks
 
 Rafael M. Torres ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 
 
 When you say doesn't mount do you mean on the CL.
 you need to post your /etc/fstab entry for the dvd to check what's
 happening.

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Re: [newbie] updating x86 [OT]

2003-09-16 Per discussione ed tharp
On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 04:14, d2ci1fj g1nf24 wrote:
 
 From: Liechti [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] updating x86 [OT]
 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 08:50:38 +0200
 
 you're using a funny name... :p
 d2ci1fj g1nf24
 
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 I filled it in for another reason and the last three times I tried to go 
 into the option folder in hotmail to change it would keep asling me for my 
 email and password. I would enter it and it came back up asking me again. I 
 have not tried lately but I will try again.
 What does [OT] mean?
 
 From,
  
 Steven
OT= Off Topic


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Re: [newbie] Governments like open-source software, but Microsoft does not

2003-09-16 Per discussione ed tharp
On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 00:40, HaywireMac wrote:
 On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 01:04:42 -0300
 Josenildo Marques [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 
  Brazil, for instance, is preparing to recommend that all its
  government agencies and state enterprises buy open source.
  
  Ahem, that's where I live :-)
 
 The part that sends me into fits of laughter is when MS calls this
 anti-competitive!


I am pretty damn sure the terrorists use GNU-Linux, because it is
secure, and they are not locked into buying any certain type of
software, and I bet they use GNU-Linux _because_ it is secure.


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Re: [newbie] Governments like open-source software, but Microsoftdoes not

2003-09-16 Per discussione karthikeyan.balasubramanian
Hi,


 I am pretty damn sure the terrorists use GNU-Linux, because it is
 secure, and they are not locked into buying any certain type of
 software, and I bet they use GNU-Linux _because_ it is secure.
 

You forgot they are terrorists.  They break rules and stuff so 

they crack Windoze and use it :)

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Re: [newbie] installing x86 update

2003-09-16 Per discussione [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It's very simple. Once you added yourself the urpmi updates media with Easy
Urpmi (http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php) you open up your console,
su to root and execute :
# urpmi.update updates  urpmi --auto-select --update

This will update the contents of the updates media (not necessary to run
after adding the media. Run it only when you want to update the packages
from that media) The next command is the ' urpmi --auto-select --update'
means that it will be executed only if the first one will success ( -
execute if success) and run urpmi , auto select all the updated packages
(--auto-select) that needed to be installed (from the list of currently
installed rpms on your machine) and use only the 'updates' media (--update).
Note that kernel will not be installed in this way of running urpmi. Only
when running urpmi kernel --update it will install the kernel binaries.

This is generally the way to update the current running Mandrake of yours.
So there are XFree packages available from the updates media - execute that
command and it will update everything including the XFree.

Hope I helped
- Original Message - 
From: Steven Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 11:20 AM
Subject: [newbie] installing x86 update


 Hi,
 I need to udate x86, the version I am using is 4.3.0. I do not know how to
 install the update or what to download. Would somebody explain to me in
 detail how to do this?

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[newbie] gnokii

2003-09-16 Per discussione [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Did anyone ever used gnokii to synchronize any address book with Nokia 6210
GSM cell. phone with mandrake ? If yes - please tell me how.. I can't make
it work.

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Re: [newbie] Governments like open-source software, but Microsoftdoes not

2003-09-16 Per discussione ed tharp
On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 06:31, karthikeyan.balasubramanian wrote:
 Hi,
 
 
  I am pretty damn sure the terrorists use GNU-Linux, because it is
  secure, and they are not locked into buying any certain type of
  software, and I bet they use GNU-Linux _because_ it is secure.
  
 
 You forgot they are terrorists.  They break rules and stuff so 
 
 they crack Windoze and use it :)
 
 Karthikeyan B
 
 
They might crack someone else's windows box and use it for disguise, but
they are running GNU-Linux. 

On that same note,,, about the time the war was starting up, I saw a
slew of stuff (either here or in AOLM) that was about how to go about
setting up a forward to an SMS service, coming from addresses like
aljezera.com, so maybe we ought to let the dept of homeland security
in on the SMS problem we are having,,, if they just put the batteries
back in the beepers or blackberries they confiscated we would be OK.
 
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Re: [newbie] Konq

2003-09-16 Per discussione Lee Wiggers
Thanks all,

I installed kdeaddons and imagegallery is back.  Anybody have any
idea what might have happened to it in the first place?

I'm 90% sure I have used it since moving up to 9.1.

OTOH this may be senility sneaking up on me, I suppose.

Would I lose it in an upgrade, anyway?

Lee


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Re: [newbie] old mandrake 9.1 drive in new machine

2003-09-16 Per discussione Thinker
Thanks. This worked and I am now in X. Now if I could figure out how to
get my network card running. It is a DLink DFE-530TX+ Rev. D2. I went to
the network configuration as root but my card is not among the options
in the drop down menu.

Any ideas on this?

-=Thinker


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 On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 23:26:28 -0400
 Thinker [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 
  
  Is there a way to configure x from the command line?
 
 try XFdrake


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Re: [newbie] Konq

2003-09-16 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 21:08, Lee Wiggers wrote:
 Thanks all,
 
 I installed kdeaddons and imagegallery is back.  Anybody have any
 idea what might have happened to it in the first place?
 
 I'm 90% sure I have used it since moving up to 9.1.
 
 OTOH this may be senility sneaking up on me, I suppose.
 
 Would I lose it in an upgrade, anyway?
 
 Lee

Lee, you're not senile. So give that a rest.
Now, to answer your seven questions:

1.) Yes
2.) No
3.) On Wednesdays
4.) 36.9
5.) Blue
6.) Only once
7.) Part of the system library
8.) Just clear the cache
9.) Same as last year

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[newbie] M-audio audiophile 2496 sound card

2003-09-16 Per discussione fifner the dragon
Hi,

has anyone tried the M-audio audiophile 2496 sound card?

I am about to get one and I want to know about drivers for it. Are there any good 
drivers for it? Does the alsa work or do I have to get open sound system?

Does the drivers support all features of the card?



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[newbie] installing a fix for x86

2003-09-16 Per discussione d2ci1fj g1nf24
Hi,
I am using xfree86 4.3.0 and need to update it. I know about a fix that they 
put out. I don not know if that is all I need and which one to get. Would 
somebody tell me how fully update x86?
 
Thanks,

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Re: [newbie] OT - 3rd Annual Nigerian E-Mail Conference

2003-09-16 Per discussione Tango Echo
Taken in... yeah in more ways then one.  Don't know of
you remember the headline but someone was actually
killed over this scam:

http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,57760,00.html

Pretty sad, eh?

--- Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 21:26, Stormjumper wrote:
  - Original Message - 
  From: Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 09:19
  Subject: Re: [newbie] OT - 3rd Annual Nigerian
 E-Mail Conference
  
  
   On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 18:23, Chris wrote:
For those who are saving these emails now is
 your chance to meet
  the actual
authors!
   
http://j-walk.com/other/conf/index.htm
   Trouble is ..it's probably true ;-))
  
  notice the line at the bottom that says joke's
 over.
  ;-)
 actually I collect them as they are so obvious that
 I wonder if anyone
 has ever been taken in by a Nigerian letter
  
  
  
 

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Re: [newbie] Konq

2003-09-16 Per discussione Lee Wiggers
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 21:53:10 +1000
Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 21:08, Lee Wiggers wrote:
  Thanks all,
  
  I installed kdeaddons and imagegallery is back.  Anybody have
  any idea what might have happened to it in the first place?
  
  I'm 90% sure I have used it since moving up to 9.1.
  
  OTOH this may be senility sneaking up on me, I suppose.
  
  Would I lose it in an upgrade, anyway?
  
  Lee
 
 Lee, you're not senile. So give that a rest.
 Now, to answer your seven questions:
 
 1.) Yes
 2.) No
 3.) On Wednesdays
 4.) 36.9
 5.) Blue
 6.) Only once
 7.) Part of the system library
 8.) Just clear the cache
 9.) Same as last year
 
 stephen kuhn - owner


Thanks Stephen.

Crystal clear analysis as usual.

Lee


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Re: [newbie] Re: This SMS message thing is pissing me off

2003-09-16 Per discussione HaywireMac
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 20:12:09 +1000
Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

  what I was never clear on is the MAILDIR.
 
 $MAILDIR = /var/spool/mail (for at least my system)
 
  BTW, why does that kuhn-rc kill half your spam in one shot?
 
 The one rule is that when you get an email from NO ONE aimed at NO ONE
 it deletes the email (or sends it to /dev/null - which is basically
 the same thing)
 
 KIM that I'm using a different setup - so my process lookes like:
 
 INBOUND MAIL = PROCMAIL (/etc/procmailrc) -
  PROCMAILRC
  NKVIR-RC
  SPAMASSASSIN
  ADDITIONAL PROCMAILRC
  |
  /home/user/.procmailrc
  |
   $MAILDIR

ah, so you use procmail 2x, the James Brown approach.

if I use just a ~/.procmailrc, according to this guide:

http://www.ii.com/internet/robots/procmail/qs/#mailboxFormats

I should be setting MAILDIR as the *destination* for mail which procmail
sends tagged mail, udderwise it lets it go to /var/spool/mail.

shite, this was less confusin' when I wuz runnin' it as a system
service...

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RE: [newbie] For anyone in Toronto

2003-09-16 Per discussione Tony S. Sykes
I bet 90% of the readers would not have noticed if you hadn't corrected
yourself. But I bet Stephen would have corrected that for you.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 4:07 AM
To: newbie
Subject: Re: [newbie] For anyone in Toronto


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  their
 
 er, there...
Electric Bong problems again yeh?
  

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Re: [newbie] OT - 3rd Annual Nigerian E-Mail Conference

2003-09-16 Per discussione HaywireMac
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 05:20:51 -0700 (PDT)
Tango Echo [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 Taken in... yeah in more ways then one.  Don't know of
 you remember the headline but someone was actually
 killed over this scam:
 
 http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,57760,00.html
 
 Pretty sad, eh?

What with the freakin' top-posting today??!!

LOL!

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Re: [newbie] DVD-Rom not detected

2003-09-16 Per discussione HaywireMac
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 11:11:23 +0100
Rafael Torres [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 OK.
 
 I don't have the pc here. I'll post the /etc/fstab tomorrow.
 Ok?
 
 Thanks
 
 Rafael Torres

No top posting please.

*The* list-nazi has spoken ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Governments like open-source software, but Microsoftdoes not

2003-09-16 Per discussione HaywireMac
On 16 Sep 2003 07:08:13 -0400
ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 AOLM

?

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Re: [newbie] Governments like open-source software, but Microsoftdoes not

2003-09-16 Per discussione Carroll Grigsby
On Tuesday 16 September 2003 09:42 am, HaywireMac wrote:
 On 16 Sep 2003 07:08:13 -0400

 ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
  AOLM

 ?

alt.os.linux.mandrake
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Re: [newbie] OT - 3rd Annual Nigerian E-Mail Conference

2003-09-16 Per discussione Carroll Grigsby
On Tuesday 16 September 2003 10:05 am, Tango Echo wrote:
 At the risk exposing my newbiness - what's up with the
 top/bottom posting debate?  I prefer top posting
 becuase I can read it on auto preview... What is the
 advantage to bottom posting besides a lot of scrolling
 exercise (actually my scroll finger is already strong
 enough, thanks)?

 --- HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 05:20:51 -0700 (PDT)
 
  Tango Echo [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
   Taken in... yeah in more ways then one.  Don't
 
  know of
 
   you remember the headline but someone was actually
   killed over this scam:

 http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,57760,00.html

   Pretty sad, eh?
 
  What with the freakin' top-posting today??!!
 
  LOL!
 
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The debate about top and bottom posting is a semi-annual event here. The 
worst, though, are people who alternate top and bottom posting in the same 
chain.

FWIW, I've noticed that bottom posters do a better job of deleting the 
extraneous crap such as ads for the Store and Yahoo, and overly-long 
signatures.

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Re: [newbie] updating x86 [OT]

2003-09-16 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 01:14, d2ci1fj g1nf24 wrote:
 
 From: Liechti [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] updating x86 [OT]
 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 08:50:38 +0200
 
 you're using a funny name... :p
 d2ci1fj g1nf24
 
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 into the option folder in hotmail to change it would keep asling me for my 
 email and password. I would enter it and it came back up asking me again. I 
 have not tried lately but I will try again.
 What does [OT] mean?
Old and Tacky :-))
 
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Re: [newbie] Governments like open-source software, but Microsoftdoes not

2003-09-16 Per discussione HaywireMac
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 10:59:47 -0400
Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 
 alt.os.linux.mandrake

ah, never been a newsgroup fan.

am I missing anything thrilling?

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Re: [newbie] old mandrake 9.1 drive in new machine

2003-09-16 Per discussione Derek Jennings
On Tuesday 16 Sep 2003 12:50 pm, Thinker wrote:
 Thanks. This worked and I am now in X. Now if I could figure out how to
 get my network card running. It is a DLink DFE-530TX+ Rev. D2. I went to
 the network configuration as root but my card is not among the options
 in the drop down menu.


What drop down menu?
If you just run through the wizard in mandrakecontrolcentrenetworking it will 
find and configure your network card for you. That D link card is very common 
. I think (?) it uses the tulip driver.

Dont you have harddrake configured to start at boot time?
If you did it would automatically notice your network card had changed and 
would install the new driver for you.
(Mandrake Control CentreSystemServices )

derek

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It is not necessary, and makes it a pain when replying to posts to a mailing 
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Re: [newbie] installing a fix for x86

2003-09-16 Per discussione Derek Jennings
On Tuesday 16 Sep 2003 5:50 am, d2ci1fj g1nf24 wrote:
 Hi,
 I am using xfree86 4.3.0 and need to update it. I know about a fix that
 they put out. I don not know if that is all I need and which one to get.
 Would somebody tell me how fully update x86?

 Thanks,

   Steven

XFree86-4.3-8.2mdk is on the Mandrake update servers.
If you have already defined an update mirror source then all you have to do is 
run KmenuConfigurationPackaging MandrakeUpdate

If you have not defined an update source then go here
http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php  for instructions on adding one.

Add sources for updates, contrib, plf and optionally texstar, and your 
Mandrake control centreSoftwareInstall will have access to hundreds of cool 
new applications.

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Re: [newbie] apt for lnux

2003-09-16 Per discussione H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 16 September 2003 17:59, Curt Tresenriter wrote:
 Has anyone using apt-get with mandrake?

When you've got urpmi why use apt-get?
The best won!:o)

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Re: [newbie] installing a fix for x86

2003-09-16 Per discussione HaywireMac
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 13:54:14 +0100
Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 XFree86-4.3-8.2mdk is on the Mandrake update servers.

Just out of curiosity, are there any major changes/fixes between
XFree86-4.3-5mdk and XFree86-4.3-8.2mdk?

The XFree site does not seem to distinguish, only mentioning major
release diffs, ie. 4.2 vs. 4.3 AFAICT.

This would mean reinstalling video drivers as well, no? Or is that only
necessary for major release changes?

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[newbie] apt for lnux

2003-09-16 Per discussione Curt Tresenriter
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Re: [newbie] apt for lnux

2003-09-16 Per discussione Curt Tresenriter
On Tuesday 16 September 2003 11:06 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:

|
|When you've got urpmi why use apt-get?
|The best won!:o)
|
|Good luck,
|HarM


Well urpmi is giving me so much trouble I thought I'd give apt a try 
- but then I found Tex isn't maintaining the repository any more.
Due to (supposed) dependencies - libasound.so.1 (it's installed) and moz 
1.1 (also installed) I can't get anything updated with auto-select.
maybe I haven't found the right combination of mirrors yet.
I've been changing them one by one and trying again, so far with the 
same results.
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Re: [newbie] Konq

2003-09-16 Per discussione Dan Gordon
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 00:58:27 +1000
Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 00:34, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
 
  You're senile when you forget to unzip before.
  -- cmg
 
 Wait, you're SUPPOSED to unzip first?
 

No wonder the front of me is always a mess ;-)

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Re: [newbie] installing x86 update

2003-09-16 Per discussione Steven Nelson
Hi,
Is Easy Urpmi the same thing as using the autoupdate in mandrake? Would you 
tell me how to manually update x86 without any of the other packages?
   
From,
   
Steven


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] installing x86 update
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 13:46:24 +0200
It's very simple. Once you added yourself the urpmi updates media with Easy
Urpmi (http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php) you open up your 
console,
su to root and execute :
# urpmi.update updates  urpmi --auto-select --update

This will update the contents of the updates media (not necessary to run
after adding the media. Run it only when you want to update the packages
from that media) The next command is the ' urpmi --auto-select --update'
means that it will be executed only if the first one will success ( -
execute if success) and run urpmi , auto select all the updated packages
(--auto-select) that needed to be installed (from the list of currently
installed rpms on your machine) and use only the 'updates' media 
(--update).
Note that kernel will not be installed in this way of running urpmi. Only
when running urpmi kernel --update it will install the kernel binaries.

This is generally the way to update the current running Mandrake of yours.
So there are XFree packages available from the updates media - execute that
command and it will update everything including the XFree.
Hope I helped
- Original Message -
From: Steven Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 11:20 AM
Subject: [newbie] installing x86 update
 Hi,
 I need to udate x86, the version I am using is 4.3.0. I do not know how 
to
 install the update or what to download. Would somebody explain to me in
 detail how to do this?

 From,

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Re: [newbie] installing a fix for x86

2003-09-16 Per discussione Derek Jennings
On Tuesday 16 Sep 2003 5:18 pm, HaywireMac wrote:
 On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 13:54:14 +0100

 Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
  XFree86-4.3-8.2mdk is on the Mandrake update servers.

 Just out of curiosity, are there any major changes/fixes between
 XFree86-4.3-5mdk and XFree86-4.3-8.2mdk?

 The XFree site does not seem to distinguish, only mentioning major
 release diffs, ie. 4.2 vs. 4.3 AFAICT.

 This would mean reinstalling video drivers as well, no? Or is that only
 necessary for major release changes?

Its a security/bug fix release
http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKSA-2003:089

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Re: [newbie] apt for lnux

2003-09-16 Per discussione H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 16 September 2003 18:40, Curt Tresenriter wrote:
 Well urpmi is giving me so much trouble I thought I'd give apt a try
 - but then I found Tex isn't maintaining the repository any more.

I'm sorry I didn't follow your thread on that. Better said I did, then it got 
messy (the thread) so I baled out, sorry.

I personally have had a few messups with urpmi but never enough to not be 
happy with it.
Admittedly I use a mix of the gui-tool in mcc and the command line for 
upgrading, configuring etc...with special thanks to the PLF tool:o)

So what is actually the problem, give it a second try?
If the prob really is urpmi it can be solved.

Good luck,
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RE: [newbie] For anyone in Toronto

2003-09-16 Per discussione ed tharp
On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 09:35, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 23:09, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
  I bet 90% of the readers would not have noticed if you hadn't corrected
  yourself. But I bet Stephen would have corrected that for you.
 
 My correction-script brokeed.

 
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Re: [newbie] installing x86 update

2003-09-16 Per discussione PhazeMan
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Well.. now i'm posting from KMail and i don't understand why is that different 
where i'm posting from. Anyway .. running this command will install ONLY if 
there is a update on updates media for XFREE. And if Mandrake prepared the 
package for the latest available XFree and put it in the updates - yes he 
will get the latest available. Otherwise he will get the latest availabe FOR 
MANDRAKE that exists on that particualr mirror he added for himself to the 
urpmi.

On Tuesday 16 September 2003 16:38, HaywireMac wrote:
 On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 13:46:24 +0200

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
  This is generally the way to update the current running Mandrake of
  yours. So there are XFree packages available from the updates media -
  execute that command and it will update everything including the
  XFree.

 Isn't 4.3.0 the latest version available from Mandrake? Therefore, it
 will not update his XFree to the latest available in general, no?

 Oh, and that was the most egregious top-post I have ever seen, but as
 you are posting from Outhouse Express, I will forgive you ;-)

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Re: [newbie] installing a fix for x86

2003-09-16 Per discussione HaywireMac
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 18:52:22 +0100
Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 
  The XFree site does not seem to distinguish, only mentioning major
  release diffs, ie. 4.2 vs. 4.3 AFAICT.
 
  This would mean reinstalling video drivers as well, no? Or is that
  only necessary for major release changes?
 
 Its a security/bug fix release
 http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKSA-2003:089

but to my other point, this should have no effect on installed video
drivers, right?

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Re: [newbie] OT - 3rd Annual Nigerian E-Mail Conference

2003-09-16 Per discussione ed tharp
On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 11:08, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
 On Tuesday 16 September 2003 10:05 am, Tango Echo wrote:
  At the risk exposing my newbiness - what's up with the
  top/bottom posting debate?  I prefer top posting
  becuase I can read it on auto preview... What is the
  advantage to bottom posting besides a lot of scrolling
  exercise (actually my scroll finger is already strong
  enough, thanks)?
 
well that is you... and I just post all around because I really enjoy
having other folks around who are as confused as I am..

   On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 05:20:51 -0700 (PDT)
  
   Tango Echo [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
Taken in... yeah in more ways then one.  Don't
  this is Ed and some times I post right in the middle of the
 line,, to make sure everyone attributes are really messed up
   know of
  
you remember the headline but someone was actually
killed over this scam:
 
  http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,57760,00.html
 
Pretty sad, eh?
  
   What with the freakin' top-posting today??!!
  
   LOL!
  
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 worst, though, are people who alternate top and bottom posting in the same 
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Yep. or the ones who snip only some of the attributes like in this
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 FWIW, I've noticed that bottom posters do a better job of deleting the 
 extraneous crap such as ads for the Store and Yahoo, and overly-long 
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Re: [newbie] apt for lnux

2003-09-16 Per discussione Curt Tresenriter
On Tuesday 16 September 2003 01:05 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
|On Tuesday 16 September 2003 18:40, Curt Tresenriter wrote:
| Well urpmi is giving me so much trouble I thought I'd give apt a
| try - but then I found Tex isn't maintaining the repository any
| more.
|
|I'm sorry I didn't follow your thread on that. Better said I did, then
| it got messy (the thread) so I baled out, sorry.
|
|I personally have had a few messups with urpmi but never enough to not
| be happy with it.
|Admittedly I use a mix of the gui-tool in mcc and the command line for
|upgrading, configuring etc...with special thanks to the PLF tool:o)
|
|So what is actually the problem, give it a second try?
|If the prob really is urpmi it can be solved.

It's working alright for individual packages but the --auto-select -a 
refuses to update because it can't find moz 1.1 (galeon needs it) so I 
installed galeon (1.2.5-8.1mdk) by itself but then auto-select wants to 
remove it due to not seeing moz 1.1 - which was part of a recent clean 
install from the Power Pack CDs - (mdk9.0) Then I added an icon set now 
*it's* conflicting with kedart when it comes time to install  and 
everything grinds to a halt.
A few other problems that seem unrelated have me about to reinstall the 
whole shebang.


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Re: [newbie] Installing BibleTime from source - upgrading to MD 9.1

2003-09-16 Per discussione RichardA
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 22:03:16 -0700, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I downloaded the iso's (md9.1) but each one said it stalled instead of
 finished (I used Konquerer). However, the size of each file was
 correct and it seemed to burn ok (I can read each disk in Konquerer).
 Is it safe?

Compare the md5sums for the iso's official ones. If they match, the two
are the same bit-for-bit. 
There's a cleverer way, but I just run md5sum name.iso and visually
compare the output with the one on the web page.

 For a home desktop computer, what is the harm in one partition verses
 3 (/, usr, home)? I set this up several months ago and left part of my
 drive open for a Win partition. I do not want to do that now (which is
 one of the reasons why I just want to redo the whole thing). I want to
 devote the entire 60gigs to Linux. I don't need to boot into multiple 
 flavors either (Mandrake is just fine).

One partition is reasonable for a home user, but if you want to
re-install, having /home on a separate partition makes life much easier.
Perhaps just do / and /home?

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Re: [newbie] installing x86 update

2003-09-16 Per discussione HaywireMac
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 21:13:27 +0300
PhazeMan [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 Well.. now i'm posting from KMail and i don't understand why is that
 different where i'm posting from.

I was referring to top-posting, the referrence to the mail client was an
aside, a meagre attempt at humour, if you will.

The preferred method, on all mailing lists, is to reply to the bottom of
the post, not the top, since most people read downward, as opposed to
upward, ethnic and cultural variances given.

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Re: [newbie] Linksys WMP11 Wireless PCI

2003-09-16 Per discussione vjc
Greetings,

I had the same problem for a couple of days on an Apple PowerBook G3.  While I 
do not remember the exact order of steps I took, I know it involves the 
following:

On Friday 12 September 2003 04:10 pm, Derek Jennings wrote:
 On Friday 12 Sep 2003 8:23 pm, Russell W. Behne wrote:
  I have a headache. I'm trying to find out how to get a Linksys WMP11
  Wireless PCI card working in my host. I've looked at the howtos, which
  all look like greek to me. Isn't there a simple howto that tells me
  where to begin - on this card only, and not a thousand others? If not
  can someone walk me through the steps?

 Have you tried going through the Wizard in Mandrake Control
 CentreNetworking ?
 According to this site
 http://www.seattlewireless.net/index.cgi/HardwareComparison
 WMP11 uses the prism chip set and so should be detected by the wizard,
 although there is a comment that later versions uses a Broadcom chip set
 for which there is no Linux driver.

 Derek

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Re: [newbie] installing a fix for x86

2003-09-16 Per discussione Derek Jennings
On Tuesday 16 Sep 2003 7:17 pm, HaywireMac wrote:
 On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 18:52:22 +0100

 Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
   The XFree site does not seem to distinguish, only mentioning major
   release diffs, ie. 4.2 vs. 4.3 AFAICT.
  
   This would mean reinstalling video drivers as well, no? Or is that
   only necessary for major release changes?
 
  Its a security/bug fix release
  http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKSA-2003:
 089

 but to my other point, this should have no effect on installed video
 drivers, right?

Correct. I was merely pointing out that this is the latest release available 
for Mandrake. The original poster did not indicate which release he was 
looking for, or what problem it was supposed to fix.

BTW: Mandrake 9.2 is (currently) using XFree86-4.3-23mdk

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Re: [newbie] installing a fix for x86

2003-09-16 Per discussione HaywireMac
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 20:36:13 +0100
Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 
 BTW: Mandrake 9.2 is (currently) using XFree86-4.3-23mdk

Waitaminnit...

I'm still not good for understanding the versioning numbers but...

I have XFree86-devel-4.3-5mdk, so is XFree86-4.3-23mdk ahead for
behind?!

LOL! 

23 is higher than 5, but then...maybe it means 2... :-\

aaarrrggghhh! ;-)

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Re: [newbie] apt for lnux

2003-09-16 Per discussione H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 16 September 2003 20:38, Curt Tresenriter wrote:
 A few other problems that seem unrelated have me about to reinstall the
 whole shebang.

Sounds a fair mess to me:o)
Actually it reeks of KDE dependencies.
I wouldn't reinstall that quickly tho.an upgrade is a wonderfull way to 
clean a lot of messes up.

By that I mean stick in the install-cd and when prompted opt for the upgrade 
offered (by default). It'll take about 10 min (YMMV) and at the least, clean 
up borked urpmi files etc.
So, upgrade...sitback (take a beer, which as your e-mail name suggests, you 
don't dislike) then reboot and cross every finger (or more) you've got nad 
then just maybe everything'll work as it should.

If not you can always do the re-install thing:o)

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Re: [newbie] which kernel version

2003-09-16 Per discussione Merlin Zener
On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 08:31, Charlie M. wrote: 
 [...snip]
 Lot's of ways Bill. But:
 
 1.) Just Ctrl+Alt+F1 and look at the kernel version there;
 
very funny. 
I tried it, thinking I'd see some kind of help file or info, but it
immediately went to a black screen with just a couple of lines of text
at the top. This wasn't just a text window, it was the full screen.

How was I supposed to get back to where I was? 
Quit, exit, q, CTRL-C etc, nothing seemed to work. ALT-TAB didn't work,
it only put some ] and ^ symbols on the line.
And then the CTRL-ALT-DEL [I thought it would bring up a log in screen,
like before] rebooted the computer without any warning or any chance to
stop it.
So I lost an 8M download, which [of course] was about 90% done...

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Re: [newbie] installing a fix for x86

2003-09-16 Per discussione H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 16 September 2003 21:46, HaywireMac wrote:
 I have XFree86-devel-4.3-5mdk, so is XFree86-4.3-23mdk ahead for
 behind?!

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but AFAIK the -devel packages are only 
needed if you want to make/write/develop software compatibel to these  
packages.

BTW I'm still happily using 4.3-19mdk and ditto libxfree86-devel versions, 
where 19 is actually the mandrake version number not the XFree.

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Re: [newbie] which kernel version

2003-09-16 Per discussione Charlie M.
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September 16, 2003 01:13 pm, Merlin Zener wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 08:31, Charlie M. wrote:
  [...snip]
  Lot's of ways Bill. But:
 
  1.) Just Ctrl+Alt+F1 and look at the kernel version there;

 very funny.
 I tried it, thinking I'd see some kind of help file or info, but it
 immediately went to a black screen with just a couple of lines of
 text at the top. This wasn't just a text window, it was the full
 screen.

 How was I supposed to get back to where I was?
 Quit, exit, q, CTRL-C etc, nothing seemed to work. ALT-TAB didn't
 work, it only put some ] and ^ symbols on the line.
 And then the CTRL-ALT-DEL [I thought it would bring up a log in
 screen, like before] rebooted the computer without any warning or any
 chance to stop it.
 So I lost an 8M download, which [of course] was about 90% done...

 --
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 Piano, Synthesizer
 Thailand.

It wasn't intended to be funny, nor was it intended to make your life 
miserable. You have my sincere apology.

I should have said Ctrl+Alt+F(1-6) but most people would have used F1 
anyway. Those couple of lines of text on a totally black screen are 
what was important. 

I should also have mentioned that you return to your desktop by 
Ctrl+Alt+F7.

Those lines of text; on mine this is what shows up there:

Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (Cooker) for i586
Kernel 2.4.22-9mdk on an i686
h24-66-233-146 login: (flashing cursor, in other words a command 
*prompt*)

Which illustrates that the requested information was there.

Sorry for your inconvenience. I'll be sure I don't cause you any more 
trouble. 

By not answering any more questions.

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Re: [newbie] Re: This SMS message thing is pissing me off

2003-09-16 Per discussione Merlin Zener
On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 14:21, Ralph Slooten wrote:
 [...snip]
 
 For
 those with e-mail programs that download their mail, I'm sure forwarding rules
 can easily be added in proggies like Evolution, kmail and Sylpheed, and probably
 the rest too.. I don't know.
 

FWIW, I just checked in Evolution [1.0.8]. Forwarding isn't one of the
options.
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Re: [newbie] which kernel version

2003-09-16 Per discussione H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 16 September 2003 21:13, Merlin Zener wrote:
 How was I supposed to get back to where I was?
 Quit, exit, q, CTRL-C etc, nothing seemed to work. ALT-TAB didn't work,
 it only put some ] and ^ symbols on the line.
 And then the CTRL-ALT-DEL [I thought it would bring up a log in screen,
 like before] rebooted the computer without any warning or any chance to
 stop it.
 So I lost an 8M download, which [of course] was about 90% done...

Due to too much M$windows usance.
Admittedly nobody told you, you could get back to the GUI (Graphical User 
Interface) with CTRL-ALT-F7, but then:
If you are on new turf (which you aparently are) tread warily and look before 
you leap! Certainly do NOT rely on 
For what it's worth: In DOS mode your M$ run-PC would have rebooted without 
warning too, normal procedure. Don't blame helpfull souls for your own 
ignorance! We do our best anyway:o)

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Re: [newbie] apt for lnux

2003-09-16 Per discussione Curt Tresenriter
On Tuesday 16 September 2003 03:07 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
|On Tuesday 16 September 2003 20:38, Curt Tresenriter wrote:
| A few other problems that seem unrelated have me about to reinstall
| the whole shebang.
|
|Sounds a fair mess to me:o)
|Actually it reeks of KDE dependencies.
|I wouldn't reinstall that quickly tho.an upgrade is a wonderfull
| way to clean a lot of messes up.

OK I went and got the beer...

I choose 'upgrade' as opposed to 'install' - right?
Does this include formatting the root partition?
If so what do I loose?

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[newbie] Is there a way to configure for verbose shutdown?

2003-09-16 Per discussione Northwest Marmot
OK, newbieness is coming out.

I've been getting used to MDK9.1 and my first venture into 
Linux.  I've run into a technical question.

I've installed on my laptop, and I close it down at the end 
of the day (hey, I'm not going for uptime stats here, just 
usage).  When I choose to shut the system down, the screen 
goes blank, and I get nothing further.  Is there a way (or 
should I be seeing it by default) to configure MDK to list 
textually its shutdown process so I know when all volumes 
have been safely unmounted, and I can hit the power button?

Obviously, I'm used to the friendly winders you may now 
safely shut off your computer.  Please don't hold winders 
familiarity against me!

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Re: [newbie] apt for lnux

2003-09-16 Per discussione H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 16 September 2003 22:51, Curt Tresenriter wrote:
 If so what do I loose?

IT doesn't format anything, i.e. it keeps what you've got including installed 
software younger or even strange to the distrib you're upgrading.
Even kernel differences show up and lilo (the start up screen) will be 
configured to show old_linux (the kernel you're running now) and linux(the 
new upgraded one).

Example: I've got a netraverse_patched mdk-kernel i need to run 
win4lin..upgrading I don't lose it, not even as a default boot option.

Mandrake is very good at that:o)

Good luck,
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[newbie] linux guides

2003-09-16 Per discussione Josenildo Marques
http://www.tldp.org/guides.html#abs


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Re: [newbie] installing x86 update

2003-09-16 Per discussione Phazeman
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On Tuesday 16 September 2003 21:52, HaywireMac wrote:
 On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 21:13:27 +0300

 PhazeMan [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
  Well.. now i'm posting from KMail and i don't understand why is that
  different where i'm posting from.

 I was referring to top-posting, the referrence to the mail client was an
 aside, a meagre attempt at humour, if you will.

 The preferred method, on all mailing lists, is to reply to the bottom of
 the post, not the top, since most people read downward, as opposed to
 upward, ethnic and cultural variances given.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I thought it was a criticising message. Won't 
happen again :)

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Re: [newbie] installing x86 update

2003-09-16 Per discussione Phazeman
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On Tuesday 16 September 2003 20:19, Steven Nelson wrote:
 Hi,
 Is Easy Urpmi the same thing as using the autoupdate in mandrake? Would you
 tell me how to manually update x86 without any of the other packages?

 From,

 Steven


 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] installing x86 update
 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 13:46:24 +0200
 
 It's very simple. Once you added yourself the urpmi updates media with
  Easy Urpmi (http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php) you open up your
  console,
 su to root and execute :
 # urpmi.update updates  urpmi --auto-select --update
 
 This will update the contents of the updates media (not necessary to run
 after adding the media. Run it only when you want to update the packages
 from that media) The next command is the ' urpmi --auto-select --update'
 means that it will be executed only if the first one will success ( -
 execute if success) and run urpmi , auto select all the updated packages
 (--auto-select) that needed to be installed (from the list of currently
 installed rpms on your machine) and use only the 'updates' media
 (--update).
 Note that kernel will not be installed in this way of running urpmi. Only
 when running urpmi kernel --update it will install the kernel binaries.
 
 This is generally the way to update the current running Mandrake of yours.
 So there are XFree packages available from the updates media - execute
  that command and it will update everything including the XFree.
 
 Hope I helped
 - Original Message -

 From: Steven Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 11:20 AM
 Subject: [newbie] installing x86 update
 
   Hi,
   I need to udate x86, the version I am using is 4.3.0. I do not know how
 
 to
 
   install the update or what to download. Would somebody explain to me in
   detail how to do this?
  
   From,
  
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Thats pretty easy
1 - no Easy Urpmi is a project launched by Nanar from the plf contributors. He 
usually is available at #mandrake and #mdk-cooker on irc.freenode.net

2 - all you have to do - again - add yourself the updates mirror as a source 
for urpmi with the Easy Urpmi. Then you just run 'urpmi --update Xfree86'
This should use the updates media and bring all the dependencies of the 
XFree86 packages with it. it will ask you about confirimng the installaion - 
decide if you want all the deps or not.

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Re: [newbie] installing x86 update

2003-09-16 Per discussione HaywireMac
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 00:10:20 +0300
Phazeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 Thats pretty easy
 1 - no Easy Urpmi is a project launched by Nanar from the plf
 contributors. He usually is available at #mandrake and #mdk-cooker on
 irc.freenode.net
 
 2 - all you have to do - again - add yourself the updates mirror as a
 source for urpmi with the Easy Urpmi. Then you just run 'urpmi
 --update Xfree86' This should use the updates media and bring all the
 dependencies of the XFree86 packages with it. it will ask you about
 confirimng the installaion - decide if you want all the deps or not.

Thanks for bottom-posting! :-)

Coulda snipped a bit tho...(ducks) ;-)

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Re: [newbie] installing x86 update

2003-09-16 Per discussione HaywireMac
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 00:06:10 +0300
Phazeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 Sorry for the misunderstanding. I thought it was a criticising
 message. Won't happen again :)

Me?! Critical?!

Sarcastic, maybe... ;-)

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Re: [newbie] which kernel version

2003-09-16 Per discussione ed tharp
On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 16:42, Charlie M. wrote:
careful snipping of all context...
 
 By not answering any more questions.
 
 Regards;
 Charlie
Does that mean Stephen and I and Joehill will get to answer some
Questionsjust kidding 

in all cereal-ness, don't ever let one persons reply get to you,,, if
they don't appreciate the help you give,,, it's (in this case, my bet)
they already read a bunch of [any of the three mentioned above]'s
replies. or they just were not worth the effort in the first place. In
this instance,,, I think no real harm done...   


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Re: [newbie] which kernel version

2003-09-16 Per discussione H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 16 September 2003 23:55, ed tharp wrote:
  I think no real harm done...  

Huhh, me? I don't know anything(g)

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Re: [newbie] which kernel version

2003-09-16 Per discussione Merlin Zener
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 04:55, ed tharp wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 16:42, Charlie M. wrote:
 careful snipping of all context...
  
  By not answering any more questions.
  
  

oh dear...

It was meant to be funny.

Sorry: I thought it was obvious, even though I didn't plaster smileys
all over it.
My impression was, this list is well acquainted with the Australian
style of self-deprecating humor: some misfortune befalls you, and you
don't bottle it up and turn into a miserable git, you tell your mates,
everyone has a laugh, you learn something and move on.

Oh well.
Clearly, the fact that I'm typing this means it wasn't taken in the
spirit it was meant. [If you have to explain the joke, then it isn't
one...]

Sorry, once again.

 [...snip]. In
 this instance,,, I think no real harm done...   
 

I hope so :)

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Re: [newbie] Konq

2003-09-16 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 02:58, Dan Gordon wrote:
 On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 00:58:27 +1000
 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 00:34, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
  
   You're senile when you forget to unzip before.
   -- cmg
  
  Wait, you're SUPPOSED to unzip first?
  
 
 No wonder the front of me is always a mess ;-)

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