Re: [newbie-it] Firme digitali
il Sunday 05 October 2003 17:29, marco seri ha scritto riguardo a Re: [newbie-it] Firme digitali --- Germano [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Succede anche ad altri che alcuni messaggi (in questa lista) siano firmati ma non si trovino le chiavi su nessun keyserver? Ciao, Germano Per trovare le chiavi di qualcuno su un keyserver bisogna che qualcuno le depositi. Non è un fatto automatico, ma volontario Ciao. Scusate, sia tu che mike, se vi ho coinvolto in quella che voleva essere una domanda retorica per esortare chi non distribuisce le proprie chiavi o a farlo oppure a non firmare i propri messaggi. Ciao, Germano
Re: [newbie-it] flashpen e usb 2.0: la resa
Quello che non capisco è perche' con l'altro dispositivo da 128MB mi riconosceva tutto senza problemi... ... e' possibile che si tratti del fatto che cerco di usare una usb2.0 mentre l'altra e' una 1.1? Temo di sì: un mio amico ha problemi analoghi con una pendrive usb2 su Debian, mentre con una pendrive usb1 prestatagli i problemi svaniscono. E infatti mi sono arreso: per fortuna il rivenditore mi ha ripreso indietro la usb2.0 e me ne sono presa una 1.1... che ho immediatamente montato con mount /dev/sda1 Triste lezione: nonostante la mandrake pubblicizzi per la 9.0 il supporto usb2.0, non solo ci sono problemi, ma il sistema fornisce sibillini e/o fuorvianti messaggi di errore che (sic) mi ricordano un po' troppo win$ comunque, grazie a tutti per l'aiuto! pigi
Re: [newbie-it] Rabbit e Java
il Monday 06 October 2003 12:16, kudega ha scritto riguardo a [newbie-it] Rabbit e Java Sto tentando di configurare Rabbit che è un proxi che velocizza il caricamento delle pag web stroncando immagini, animazioni... Ho letto nel Rreadme che per mandare in esecuzione in proxi basta far partire lo script ./jr Però non mi trova Java anche se sulla macchina è installato. Non ho ancora ben capito come funziona una JVM... Come faccio a far partire java? Devo dire a Rabbit dov'è installato? Come faccio a vedere se Java è in esecuzione? Ho cercato anche info ma digitando man java mi dice che non ci sono manuali installati.. Come potete vedere ho un pò di casini per la capoccia.. Grazie ciao ciao Davide Che java hai installato? se è il pacchetto j2re devi aggiungere in /etc/bashrc le seguenti righe export PATH=$PATH:/usr/java/j2re1.4.1_03/bin export CLASSPATH=/usr/java/j2re1.4.1_03/lib Il primo aggiunge un nuovo percorso di esguibili il secondo dichiara la posizione della librerie java. Ovviamente se non riadatta i percorsi secondo il pacchetto che hai installato tu. Ciao, Germano
Re: [newbie-it] 2 problemi: porte USB e ingresso da root con serverX
--- alfredo [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Salve a tutti, ho messo MDK 9.1 su un SONY VAIO PCG FR-105, AMD AthXP 2000, 256MB-RAM. secondo le specifiche del PC :3 porte USB, che dovrbbero essere 2.0. Purtroppo ne funziona solo una , le altre due non ricevono nenche alimentazione se infatti collego una qualunque periferica, una chiavetta usb ad es, essa non si accende. In merito al Root Hub che ho sul PC, Usb Viewer mi dice: USB UHCI Root Hub .. .. Number of Ports: 2 (ma io ne ho 3) ... .. USB Version: 1.00 (ma le specifiche del PC dicono 2.0) Mentre nell'identificazione hardware che si fa al centro di controllo di MDK alla voce: Controller USB: USB UHCI Root Hub, nelle informazioni mi mette: Marca: Sconosciuto Bus: USB Descrizione: USB UHCI Root Hub Modulo: sconosciuto. Classe dei supporti: Hub|Root Hub Non ho neanche lontanamente idea del problema. 2) Come un c*ne non ho abilitato l'ingresso col server grafico da root, come si ripristina questa opzione? rispondo alla seconda parte della domanda: puoi entrare da utente normale e poi accedere al centro di controllo di mandrake ( ti viene richiesta la password di root ) e cambi le impostazioni di boot, ad esempio una sessione gnome per root. Grazie Alfredo __ Yahoo! Mail: 6MB di spazio gratuito, 30MB per i tuoi allegati, l'antivirus, il filtro Anti-spam http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.mail.yahoo.com/
[newbie-it] Stampante
Salve a tutti, sapete darmi il nome di una stampante a colori, che non mi dia problemi con MDK e con un costo (anche di manutenzione) non troppo elevato??? -- NO WAR FOR OIL \ | / (@ @) -o00-(_)-00o Benedetto Santarella -- Home Page == http://utenti.lycos.it/santarellawebmaster/index.html Email : ( Per scrivermi togli -NOSPAM- ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie-it] Stampante
On Tuesday 07 October 2003 18:48, Santarella Benedetto wrote: Salve a tutti, sapete darmi il nome di una stampante a colori, che non mi dia problemi con MDK e con un costo (anche di manutenzione) non troppo elevato??? in genere tutte le EPSON sono supportate. -- Ciao , Tom . ~ . / v \ / / \ \ / ( ) \ ^^ ^^ Vendesi mutanda usata di terza mano, garantita originale. Slack 9.0 Linux user Tattari_manna aka plugs Mauro... un'ammaestratore di liste ... un incubo!
Re: [newbie] The password you typed is invalid.Please try again.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 07 October 2003 10:51 am, mike wrote: Hello, I just tried to use userdrake from the kde configuration menu and it asked for root password I typed it in correctly :-) and it gave me this message. The password you typed is invalid. Please try again. After you fill in the password, did you press ENTER or click on OK with mouse? Sometimes if we just hit enter, it screws. Believe it or not. - -- Fajar http://linux.arinet.org Linux mdk91.sistek.kom 2.4.21-0.13mdk GNU/Linux 13:22:56 up 5:45, 10 users, load average: 1.34, 1.37, 1.50 Quote of the day: Q: How many Microsoft tech writers does it take to change a lightbulb? A: Twelve. One to work the bulb, and eleven to write a 1,123 page guide to changing lightbulbs (Learn Lightbulb Management in 21 Days). -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/glwjMai9kCFqACoRAgWdAKC8YXqVFUZexnL8wkd1PlPqSjG4vgCgzCot YplfKQA1JAGx3qamOdX6tM8= =jbeg -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Unable to read Zip 250 disks
On Monday 06 October 2003 09:24 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote: I have an Iomega Zip 250 drive that will read/write to 100MB disks in Mandrake without problem. But if I put a 250MB disk in there, I get I/O errors when trying to read. Seem odd. Why would this be? Not sure but you should rule out the obvious - is the cart a good one? I mean can you read it somewhere else? Is youre zip drive a 250 model? (not trying to insult ya here - just checking!) What does your /etc/fstab line regarding your zip drive look like? Are you using supermount or not? Just some things to think about. -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] a mega (mandrake) distro
On Tuesday 07 Oct 2003 12:47 am, Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 06 October 2003 06:47 pm, Anarky wrote: you know something that i would really LOOVE to see? A 10cd distribution Linux (preferably made out of Mandrake)... if anybdoy feels the same way as me ... where could we pitch this idea with people with enough knowledge power to actually do this? It's called ProSuite and you can pre-order your copy now at the MandrakeStore. I found myself thinking last night, (bad move huh,) wouldn't it be nice to support those nice MDK people by buying a power pack of 9.2. The 9.2 list appears not to have been compiled yet, but the 9.1 list didn't seem to include anything that I hadn't already had running by download, and certainly nothing that I was tempted to pay the money for. Anybody want to persuade me otherwise? And to stay On Topic, it's a 7 CD set. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sound problem - again!
You should do this as root. HTH, I get this then: [EMAIL PROTECTED] boudica]# /etc/init.d/alsasound start Starting sound driver: snd-cs4236 /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.13mdk/kernel/sound/acore/snd.o: unresolved symbol snd_verbose_printk modprobe: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.13mdk/kernel/sound/acore/snd.o failed modprobe: insmod snd-cs4236 failed done -- John Willby Registered Linux user number 321644 ICQ: 92791912 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YIM: vicarofwibley Linux is like a wigwam - No Gates, no Windows, Apache inside. 8:00am up 20 days 21:13, 3 users, load average: 0.22, 0.05, 0.02 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] The password you typed is invalid.Please try again.
Hello, I just tried to use userdrake from the kde configuration menu and it asked for root password I typed it in correctly :-) and it gave me this message. The password you typed is invalid. Please try again. Same message with gnome-system-log other things like linuxconfig and mcc accept root password ok. kde3.1.4 texstar MDK 9.1 tried searching archives but doesn't seem to work--- Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux fax machine
I have a Toshiba TF631 bought on ebay for about !00.00 US. Look for one with the network card installed and it will do all. This is the 2nd one we've gotten the same way. I put the wrong toner in the first, then fubar'ed the fuser trying to clean up the mess. Expensive lesson, but a lesson nonetheless. It'll be valuable for parts down the road, too, the next time I get brave. Lee On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:11:09 -0400 Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for a laser fax machine that does copying (I guess they all do). It's not imperative that I can print and send faxes from Linux, but it'd be nice. Any recommendations? Miark -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] logrotate
Burrows, Scott wrote: Mike, Doing the manual thing that is being proposed will certainly work but why do it that way when you can use WebMin and get a nice easy interface to work with and be concerned about hosing up a text file or use the the wrong syntax. WEBMIN it baby! I used Webmin to alter my logrotate times last Friday. Piece of cake. Scott Hi Scott, Yes Webmin great tool but I don't think I can use it in this situation (least I don't think I can). Its my firewall/gateway box and I don't have X installed. Friend of mine did a minimal install (MDK) on it, used firewall builder (another nice piece of software) to set it up. I just ssh into it to do the things I need to do. Thanks for the tip though. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] a mega (mandrake) distro
Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 06 October 2003 06:47 pm, Anarky wrote: you know something that i would really LOOVE to see? A 10cd distribution Linux (preferably made out of Mandrake)... if anybdoy feels the same way as me ... where could we pitch this idea with people with enough knowledge power to actually do this? It's called ProSuite and you can pre-order your copy now at the MandrakeStore. I meant a free one, and it could be free with all the free software around. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Fetchmail problem with duplicate messages
On Monday 06 October 2003 09:55 pm, Mark wrote: Does anyone know why if I run fetchmail from a console as root, all my email downloads and the server purges the emails fine, but if I run the fetchmail command as a cron job from root, the messages are NOT purged off the server. As far as I can tell, the commands should use the same .fetchmailrc file, and the file has NOKEEP option turned on. I am at a loss to explain this. Thanks! It is possible that console is using the /etc/fetchmailrc file rather than /root/.fetchmailrc file which is probably what the cron job is using. You might want to check by making sure that both files, if they exist are identical to see if that fixes the problem. You can also specify the exact location of the config file as a parameter to the cron job command or build a script that does it for you. By default, webmin uses a /etc/fetchmailrc location for settings while fetchmailconf uses /root/.fetchmailrc. Not sure which one is used by fetchmail if you don't specify it. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] OT
Well it's 4:30 in the morning. I used to be able to scan the list, note some light banter basically wrapped around mdk, mostly one liners exchanged by a few friends ready to jump when the occasional serious question came down the road. Apparently that's gone now. Everyone happy? I don't see much point in sticking around either, frankly. Lee -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux fax machine
What about Hylafax with a sheet feed scanner? -Original Message- From: Miark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 10:11 PM To: Newbie; Expert Subject: [newbie] Linux fax machine I'm looking for a laser fax machine that does copying (I guess they all do). It's not imperative that I can print and send faxes from Linux, but it'd be nice. Any recommendations? Miark -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] a mega (mandrake) distro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 7, 2003 01:52 am, Anarky wrote: Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 06 October 2003 06:47 pm, Anarky wrote: you know something that i would really LOOVE to see? A 10cd distribution Linux (preferably made out of Mandrake)... if anybdoy feels the same way as me ... where could we pitch this idea with people with enough knowledge power to actually do this? It's called ProSuite and you can pre-order your copy now at the MandrakeStore. I meant a free one, and it could be free with all the free software around. Here are some Fresh ISOs, just like mom used to burn. http://www.linuxiso.org/index.php or maybe here: http://plugintolinux.org/linuxcds.php Do you have any idea how much work goes into all the free software around Anarky? Does anybody else think developers should work for free? Or that MandrakeSoft should be a non-profit company? Take a swing at Debian or Slack or Gentoo or Sorceror if you want free. Or use the free download version of Mandrake Linux and package all of the additional software you want from source. Or download the source code for the software you want, learn how, and build your own distribution. Or if you're truly that impressed with Mandrake Linux, do as Greg posted, and buy a box set or one of the disk only sets. As with all Open Source Software the choices are yours. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 03:27:53 up 16 days, 16:49, 1 user, load average: 0.44, 0.38, 0.29 Never put off till run-time what you can do at compile-time. -- D. Gries -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/goz/G11CaRuZZSIRAiqyAJ9/NQfswD7oksnOvAj5CafBwKqlSQCgnfx8 znkrmHAM+4MiK7pxgb9T5xU= =S76R -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mcc - security: options dun stick
On Tuesday 07 Oct 2003 6:05 am, Stormjumper wrote: referring to Derek's post on 27 Sep 2003, regarding exploits, i attempted to follow advice on putting an email address and clicking the check box for Security Alerts in Mandrake Control Center - Security - Basic however, the check box option reverts to unchecked (unticked) and the Security Administrator reverts to default the next time i enter the MCC - Security Panel. is there any reason for this, or any way to work around the non-registering settings? or can i enter the values manually in a config file somewhere instead? i looked inside /etc/security and /etc/security/msec, but couldn't identify the corresponding config file. can someone direct me as to what values to enter in which file? btw, i'm running 9.1. thanks I don't know why your settings are not sticking, but you can edit the /etc/security/msec/security.conf file directly insert the line MAIL_USER= Also to get mails about failed cron jobs edit /etc/crontab and insert MAILTO= Don't forget for the mails to be sent you need a mail server such as postfix to be running. If you do not have a mail server then install ssmtp RPM and edit the mailhub parameter in /etc/ssmtp/ssmtp.conf to send mails to your ISP derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Patenting of Software Code
Hi Dick, John, Anne and all, On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 19:30, Dick Gevers wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi John and all others, On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 15:41:52 +, John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about [newbie] Patenting of Software Code: I have had a reply from a MEP, as follows, Similarly, I had a reply from the assistant to Dutch liberal MEP Mrs. Elly Plooij-van Gorsel, reading inter alia (this is a rough translation from Dutch): Start translation ++ The European Parliament has voted 24/9 in plenary meeting on the report `Patentability of computer implemented inventions` snip Unfortunately I was still working on a letter to my MEPs when the vote was taken. Didn't get off my backside quickly enough, alas. Do you think there would be any point in writing to them now? If so, any ideas as to the best line to take? DougB P.S. Mine are East of Engalnd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 7, 2003 02:44 am, Lee Wiggers wrote: Well it's 4:30 in the morning. I used to be able to scan the list, note some light banter basically wrapped around mdk, mostly one liners exchanged by a few friends ready to jump when the occasional serious question came down the road. Apparently that's gone now. Everyone happy? I don't see much point in sticking around either, frankly. Lee Some of us only get to scan the posts early in the morning or late at night. Same thing maybe? Others get so busy at their regular earn a living tasks they vanish for days at a time. The list seems to cycle between insane traffic levels, and a slow idle routinely Lee. This too shall pass. (-; Stick around, things will pick up again as soon as everyone can get 9.2 and start trying to break it. g Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 03:53:41 up 16 days, 17:15, 1 user, load average: 0.15, 0.24, 0.25 His eyes were cold. As cold as the bitter winter snow that was falling outside. Yes, cold and therefore difficult to chew... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/go4lG11CaRuZZSIRAgpnAKCIXdZmu4/vj9/YofM44wj/E3UZfwCgpl6n vlOCbBMcZJBtoneURywK8Zw= =tPHe -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Fetchmail problem with duplicate messages
On Tuesday 07 Oct 2003 2:55 am, Mark wrote: Does anyone know why if I run fetchmail from a console as root, all my email downloads and the server purges the emails fine, but if I run the fetchmail command as a cron job from root, the messages are NOT purged off the server. As far as I can tell, the commands should use the same .fetchmailrc file, and the file has NOKEEP option turned on. I am at a loss to explain this. Thanks! Mark Instead of using a cron job try running it as a daemon. Install the fetchmail-daemon RPM from your CDs It will start automatically using the /etc/fetchmailrc config file. derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Portable OGG player(s)?
Yet again to toot my own horn, our NexIA players (www.flashcards.co.nz) will be supporting Ogg soon we are told. The manufacturer is working on the firmware upgrade now and we expect it to be available for download in a couple months or soFrom what I understand, many players will be supporting Ogg in the future. =) Good news for all. Cheers Jason Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 06 October 2003 01:03 am, Traci Collins wrote: For those of you who would prefer a Linux solution, the Sharp Zaurus does a great job with oggs. True enough that the Zaurus, as well as the Palm-based pdas, play oggs. Unfortunately, going the Zaurus route is 4-5 times the cost of a portable player. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 for non-members
Anarky wrote: [Deleted] that I knew of too :) but still .. if they'll relese them by the end of october ... awesome ... i was just saying how much cooler Mandrake is than SuSE in it's marketing approach in that it offers it's newest version even to the non-members, unlike SuSE who keeps the free legal people in the dark (ok, so unless you can afford a ftp install) ... I hope Mandrake doesn't go that way too :-( then it would be just another service that's available just if you pay :( ... not that I have anything against the idea in general .. but I'm kinda into linux for an os for everybody ideology too :P I share the same sentiments. Ya .. I hope they do not spoil the fun. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Wireless Keyboard and mouse
I have a Genius Wireless office kit wireless mouse and keyboard and I want it to work in mandrake linux 9.1 does anyone know how to get it working Kyle Hartigan --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.521 / Virus Database: 319 - Release Date: 23/09/2003
Re: [newbie] OT
On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 07:05, Lee Wiggers wrote: On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 03:57:57 -0600 Charlie M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 7, 2003 02:44 am, Lee Wiggers wrote: Well it's 4:30 in the morning. I used to be able to scan the list, note some light banter basically wrapped around mdk, mostly one liners exchanged by a few friends ready to jump when the occasional serious question came down the road. Apparently that's gone now. Everyone happy? I don't see much point in sticking around either, frankly. Lee Some of us only get to scan the posts early in the morning or late at night. Same thing maybe? Others get so busy at their regular earn a living tasks they vanish for days at a time. The list seems to cycle between insane traffic levels, and a slow idle routinely Lee. This too shall pass. (-; Stick around, things will pick up again as soon as everyone can get 9.2 and start trying to break it. g Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 03:53:41 up 16 days, 17:15, 1 user, load average: 0.15, 0.24, 0.25 His eyes were cold. As cold as the bitter winter snow that was falling outside. Yes, cold and therefore difficult to chew... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/go4lG11CaRuZZSIRAgpnAKCIXdZmu4/vj9/YofM44wj/E3UZfwCgpl6n vlOCbBMcZJBtoneURywK8Zw= =tPHe -END PGP SIGNATURE- Maybe, but I suspect they've been sent to list prison for daring to have a bit of fun in a basically technical neighborhood. Lee no 'list prison' but in an effort to keep the 'signal to noise ratio' down, some of the banter has been moved over to the OT list, where everyone is welcome. http://mdw1982.dyndns.org/mailman/listinfo/mandrakeot -- ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT
On 07 Oct 2003 07:24:36 -0400 ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 07:05, Lee Wiggers wrote: On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 03:57:57 -0600 Charlie M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 7, 2003 02:44 am, Lee Wiggers wrote: Well it's 4:30 in the morning. I used to be able to scan the list, note some light banter basically wrapped around mdk, mostly one liners exchanged by a few friends ready to jump when the occasional serious question came down the road. Apparently that's gone now. Everyone happy? I don't see much point in sticking around either, frankly. Lee Some of us only get to scan the posts early in the morning or late at night. Same thing maybe? Others get so busy at their regularearn a living tasks they vanish for days at a time. The list seems to cycle between insane traffic levels, and a slow idle routinely Lee. This too shall pass. (-; Stick around, things will pick up again as soon as everyone can get 9.2 and start trying to break it. g Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 03:53:41 up 16 days, 17:15, 1 user, load average: 0.15, 0.24, 0.25His eyes were cold. As cold as the bitter winter snow that was falling outside. Yes, cold and therefore difficult to chew...-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/go4lG11CaRuZZSIRAgpnAKCIXdZmu4/vj9/YofM44wj/E3UZfwCgp l6n vlOCbBMcZJBtoneURywK8Zw= =tPHe -END PGP SIGNATURE- Maybe, but I suspect they've been sent to list prison for daring to have a bit of fun in a basically technical neighborhood. Lee no 'list prison' but in an effort to keep the 'signal to noise ratio' down, some of the banter has been moved over to the OT list, where everyone is welcome. http://mdw1982.dyndns.org/mailman/listinfo/mandrakeot -- ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org I really don't want to offend anyone, but FWIW I miss the basic feeling of friendship that's been right here for years. OT seems to be a group looking for a fight. Over anything. I can get that right here in my own house. Lee -- User #223705 Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] a mega (mandrake) distro
On Tuesday 07 October 2003 07:22 am, Robin Turner wrote: Richard Urwin wrote: On Tuesday 07 Oct 2003 12:47 am, Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 06 October 2003 06:47 pm, Anarky wrote: you know something that i would really LOOVE to see? A 10cd distribution Linux (preferably made out of Mandrake)... if anybdoy feels the same way as me ... where could we pitch this idea with people with enough knowledge power to actually do this? It's called ProSuite and you can pre-order your copy now at the MandrakeStore. I found myself thinking last night, (bad move huh,) wouldn't it be nice to support those nice MDK people by buying a power pack of 9.2. The 9.2 list appears not to have been compiled yet, but the 9.1 list didn't seem to include anything that I hadn't already had running by download, and certainly nothing that I was tempted to pay the money for. There is really nothing in the PowerPack that is not on the mirrors in main or cintrib except the disk of commercial apps and the install support and the documentation and the one month trial membership to Club and the feeling that you supported the company that spent a lot of money to develop the product you use. When I referred to the 9 disk set I was referring to the Prosuite edition, not the PowerPack. This has an extra install disk just for servers and a 60 day eval copy of IBM's DB2. Also has 90 days phone support. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] ext3 vs FAT in partion table
How is it possible that fdisk (and sfdisk) report partition hda1 as Win95 FAT32 (id=0x0b), but that partition is mounted as ext3? When I formatted the drive, I left hda1 partition free for later windows installation. Then I decided to use it for linux, and I *think* I reformatted it as ext3. This morning I noticed the discrepancy between the partition table information and the fstab. It looks like the id field of the PT is not really used by the kernel. Can anyone explain this? raffaele Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] a mega (mandrake) distro
Anarky wrote: you know something that i would really LOOVE to see? A 10cd distribution Linux (preferably made out of Mandrake) ... that would be something awesome ! Then i'd download it and share it with everybody I know ... and everybody would go .. wowww ... 10cds .. imagine the amount of data .. adn the funny thing is that it's possible .. theoretically ... since afaik the people who are good at making stuff would only have to add software upon software to constitute this mega distro ... and there's loads of software around ... and imagine the re-selling possibilities, and thus the marketing possibilities of such a distro ... why? for at least 2 reasons: 1) for people quantity == much work put into it, thus quality product 2) but more importantly .. it would really be a LOT of software .. in all areas imaginable .. and what linux lacks in certain software areas (some hardware support, some games, professional music software ...) it could be replaced by the sheer excitement of discouvering so many types of programs for so many types of things ... it would fill people with awe (or at least my computer enthusiast friends) ... even those who'd normally think ... linux ??? why?? you can't do anything with it (eg. you can't share software with your friends on it most of the time ... that meaning windows software) ... because now you could obviously do a lot of stuff with 10 cds worth of data lots of software heck on 10 cds you could have so many free games that even the hardcore gamer might be caught by one of those even if it's not his wanted *** windows title. if anybdoy feels the same way as me ... where could we pitch this idea with people with enough knowledge power to actually do this? what I actually ment here is something like a set of cds of additional software ... not comercial .. but simply a collected bunch of software freely available on the web in mandrake rpms. I would love to download such huge software packs and discouver in them all sorts of weird software people have cooked up ... like who knows what kind of time tracking tool, or free music making software, or 3d (especially) software like k3d, blender, povray, yafray ... possibly a disk made by users for users. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] a mega (mandrake) distro
Richard Urwin wrote: On Tuesday 07 Oct 2003 12:47 am, Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 06 October 2003 06:47 pm, Anarky wrote: you know something that i would really LOOVE to see? A 10cd distribution Linux (preferably made out of Mandrake)... if anybdoy feels the same way as me ... where could we pitch this idea with people with enough knowledge power to actually do this? It's called ProSuite and you can pre-order your copy now at the MandrakeStore. I found myself thinking last night, (bad move huh,) wouldn't it be nice to support those nice MDK people by buying a power pack of 9.2. The 9.2 list appears not to have been compiled yet, but the 9.1 list didn't seem to include anything that I hadn't already had running by download, and certainly nothing that I was tempted to pay the money for. Anybody want to persuade me otherwise? And to stay On Topic, it's a 7 CD set. I was about to ask the same question. I'd be tempted if it included some useful commercial software like win4lin, but I don't want to pay for a bunch of demos and betas. Sir Robin -- Hackers appear to wear black more because it goes with everything and hides dirt than because they want to look like goths. - Eric Raymond Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Fetchmail problem with duplicate messages
On Tuesday 07 October 2003 12:43 am, Mark wrote: I checked, there was a blank /etc/fetchmailrc. I copied the info over, but I don't think if it was using that config file, it would have gotten ANY email at all. I didn't use fetchmailconf, as it didn't work, so I edited the file manually. I assume that you are still having the problem Can you post a copy of your fetchmailrc file (minus specific ids/passwords) and a copy of the cron command that you are using to call fetchmail? That might help trigger an epiphany for someone here. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Patenting of Software Code
Douglas Bainbridge wrote: Hi Dick, John, Anne and all, On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 19:30, Dick Gevers wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi John and all others, On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 15:41:52 +, John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about [newbie] Patenting of Software Code: I have had a reply from a MEP, as follows, Similarly, I had a reply from the assistant to Dutch liberal MEP Mrs. Elly Plooij-van Gorsel, reading inter alia (this is a rough translation from Dutch): Start translation ++ The European Parliament has voted 24/9 in plenary meeting on the report `Patentability of computer implemented inventions` snip Unfortunately I was still working on a letter to my MEPs when the vote was taken. Didn't get off my backside quickly enough, alas. Do you think there would be any point in writing to them now? If so, any ideas as to the best line to take? DougB P.S. Mine are East of Engalnd The only hope here is if enough people make their view know. So the more th better, but don't count any chickens. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] checking what mode my hard drives are in
How can I check to see if my hard drives are running in UDMA mode 5? Also, I don't believe that they are being turned off by ACPI. Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] a mega (mandrake) distro
On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 05:08, Anarky wrote: Charlie M. wrote: Here are some Fresh ISOs, just like mom used to burn. http://www.linuxiso.org/index.php or maybe here: http://plugintolinux.org/linuxcds.php Do you have any idea how much work goes into all the free software around Anarky? actually I do, no need to be mean. Does anybody else think developers should work for free? Or that MandrakeSoft should be a non-profit company? I never said that ... I just would like it if they found way of making profit while still sharing the distro for free earn money of other aspects. Take a swing at Debian or Slack or Gentoo or Sorceror if you want free. Or use the free download version of Mandrake Linux and package all of the additional software you want from source. Or download the source code for the software you want, learn how, and build your own distribution. Or if you're truly that impressed with Mandrake Linux, do as Greg posted, and buy a box set or one of the disk only sets. As with all Open Source Software the choices are yours. Don't forget to give your 9.1 distro to some one who wishes to escape the evil empire __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cron error
On Wednesday 01 Oct 2003 3:04 pm, Derek Jennings wrote: On Wednesday 01 Oct 2003 1:13 am, L.V.Gandhi wrote: I get following error. Sep 30 05:29:02 lvghomepc anacron[1507]: Job `cron.daily' started Sep 30 05:29:02 lvghomepc anacron[1770]: Updated timestamp for job `cron.daily' to 2003-09-30 Sep 30 05:29:51 lvghomepc anacron[1507]: Job `cron.daily' terminated (exit status: 1) (mailing output) I think exit status 1 indicates error. Where this mailed output goes. It goes to the email address (or users mail spool file) listed in the MAILTO= parameter in /etc/crontab If you want it to go to an email address then you must either be running a mail server to have the ssmtp RPM installed to forward the mail to a mail server. (Config file in /etc/ssmtp/ssmtp.conf ) I have installed postfix. it is shown also as below. Oct 7 05:04:07 lvghomepc postfix: Starting postfix: Oct 7 05:04:10 lvghomepc postfix: succeeded Oct 7 05:04:10 lvghomepc postfix: ^[[65G[^[[1;32m Oct 7 05:04:10 lvghomepc postfix: Oct 7 05:04:10 lvghomepc rc: Starting postfix: succeeded Now error from anacron has gone. I feel this si because it can send output to root as in [EMAIL PROTECTED] security]# cat /etc/crontab SHELL=/bin/bash PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin MAILTO=root HOME=/ # run-parts 01 * * * * root nice -n 19 run-parts /etc/cron.hourly 02 4 * * * root nice -n 19 run-parts /etc/cron.daily 22 4 * * 0 root nice -n 19 run-parts /etc/cron.weekly 42 4 1 * * root nice -n 19 run-parts /etc/cron.monthly but the cron.daily exit status shows error. Oct 7 05:09:24 lvghomepc anacron[1608]: Job `cron.daily' started Oct 7 05:09:24 lvghomepc anacron[1851]: Updated timestamp for job `cron.daily' to 2003-10-07 Oct 7 05:10:15 lvghomepc anacron[1608]: Job `cron.daily' terminated (exit status: 1) (mailing output) Oct 7 05:10:15 lvghomepc anacron[1608]: Normal exit (1 jobs run) But mail in root prompt shows no mail for root. How to find reason for exit status 1. -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA http://lvgandhi.tripod.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] checking what mode my hard drives are in
On Tuesday 07 Oct 2003 2:18 pm, Clevenger, Dave wrote: How can I check to see if my hard drives are running in UDMA mode 5? Also, I don't believe that they are being turned off by ACPI. Thanks Install hdparm RPM. Then in a root terminal hdparm -i /dev/hda derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] a mega (mandrake) distro
On Tuesday 07 October 2003 08:28 am, Anarky wrote: if anybdoy feels the same way as me ... where could we pitch this idea with people with enough knowledge power to actually do this? what I actually ment here is something like a set of cds of additional software ... not comercial .. but simply a collected bunch of software freely available on the web in mandrake rpms. I would love to download such huge software packs and discouver in them all sorts of weird software people have cooked up ... like who knows what kind of time tracking tool, or free music making software, or 3d (especially) software like k3d, blender, povray, yafray ... possibly a disk made by users for users. That all exists in the contrib tree on any Mandrake mirror. Set up a urpmi source for contrib and have fun. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Desktops and their progs
Greetings, The default install of Mandrake 9.1 has provided us with a number of different desktop environments (7?), and I understand that the variety is there because of personal preferences in decoration and performance. But it has also provided us with some programs which seem keyed to specific desktops (Evolution for Gnome, Kpilot/Korganizer for KDE, etc.), and this implies that those programs will run well in all desktops (for example, the Gnome Configurations Manager is not available in KDE, so someone has taken the care to select what's pertinent). The Gnome environment doesn't work well for me -- it is much slower and uses a lot more CPU than KDE in my installation. I've spent the last several weeks customizing KDE's appearance and behavior and now have a highly responsive, visually pleasing working environment. But I really like the way Evolution, specifically, looks. So my question for ya'll today is: is there any reason that I need to stick with KDE native (would that be the right term?) applications, or can I freely use those Gnome applications I like in KDE (and, presumably, vice-versa)? The reason I'm suspicious is that after having a working palm sync scheme with Kpilot, and then trying it with Evolution, Kpilot had a lot of trouble and it seemed to be because Evolution had switched the deamon to gnome-pilot . . . Thanks, Max Fujitsu PII L-470 Lifebook with 192M RAM Mandrake 9.1 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] webcam recommendations needed
Hi. Yesterday i started working at a small business that is interested in using PC's with webcams as security cameras .. you know, to monitor customers, that kind of thing. The idea is that the PC should be running Linux. I have zero experience with webcams, and from what i've read, performance and resolution can be real problems as drivers vary in quality. So, is there any brand or model that could be useful for this (resolution should be good enough to make it possible to recognize a face standing at about 3 or 4 meters from the camera) under Linux? Thanks Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Desktops and their progs
SNIP So my question for ya'll today is: is there any reason that I need to stick with KDE native (would that be the right term?) applications, or can I freely use those Gnome applications I like in KDE (and, presumably, vice-versa)? The reason I'm suspicious is that after having a working palm sync scheme with Kpilot, and then trying it with Evolution, Kpilot had a lot of trouble and it seemed to be because Evolution had switched the deamon to gnome-pilot . . . Thanks, Max Fujitsu PII L-470 Lifebook with 192M RAM Mandrake 9.1 Hello, Max, One of the things I like about Linux is the lack of rules (freedom?). I use Evolution, at the moment, with Fluxbox without any noticeable problems - in the past i used it with Gnome KDE. Basically, try anything. You may (with some apps) need to add various libraries, but if you're using urpmi it takes care of dependencies. Experiment, Paul M. _ CYTANET WebMail http://webmail.cytanet.com.cy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] a mega (mandrake) distro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 7, 2003 09:03 am, Aron Smith wrote: [..] actually I do, no need to be mean. Not being mean, stating a fact. For more additional software than you can shake a goat at add the contrib tree to the urpmi sources. Just remember that the contrib apps are unsupported. Speaking of which there's also the unsupported tree. Does anybody else think developers should work for free? Or that MandrakeSoft should be a non-profit company? I never said that ... I just would like it if they found way of making profit while still sharing the distro for free earn money of other aspects. That was tried and the company has spent this year in the French equivalent of Chapter 11. Concentration on the core business is required, the core is (or should always be IMHO) the Mandrake Linux distribution. It's hard to convince people to spend money to support the developers that make this possible when the Latest and Greatest edition of the operating system is available as a free download before paying customers receive their copy they bought. Take a swing at Debian or Slack or Gentoo or Sorceror if you want free. Or use the free download version of Mandrake Linux and package all of the additional software you want from source. Or download the source code for the software you want, learn how, and build your own distribution. Or if you're truly that impressed with Mandrake Linux, do as Greg posted, and buy a box set or one of the disk only sets. As with all Open Source Software the choices are yours. Don't forget to give your 9.1 distro to some one who wishes to escape the evil empire I always donate previous box sets, either to the public library or someone that has expressed enough interest to try and use the download edition. Free Download editions are always passed along to utter newbies, and are installed on every system i assemble for anyone. If they won't pay for a Windows license that's what they get to use as an OS. - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 11:28:33 up 17 days, 50 min, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.13 People say I live in my own little fantasy world... well, at least they *know* me there! -- D.L. Roth -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/gvnKG11CaRuZZSIRAkPIAJ9XOK4DYphpYmEnELpK0FHsBXn7sACePJGq Iy8+3IMrnCUqvZhqiPKIJgg= =8kgm -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Desktops and their progs
On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 09:30:23 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, The default install of Mandrake 9.1 has provided us with a number of different desktop environments (7?), and I understand that the variety is there because of personal preferences in decoration and performance. But it has also provided us with some programs which seem keyed to specific desktops (Evolution for Gnome, Kpilot/Korganizer for KDE, etc.), and this implies that those programs will run well in all desktops (for example, the Gnome Configurations Manager is not available in KDE, so someone has taken the care to select what's pertinent). Im using XFce and have for some time, i have run evolution but dont care for it and i run korganizer other k apps and gnome apps all the time without problems. The Gnome environment doesn't work well for me -- it is much slower and uses a lot more CPU than KDE in my installation. I've spent the last several weeks customizing KDE's appearance and behavior and now have a highly responsive, visually pleasing working environment. But I really like the way Evolution, specifically, looks. So my question for ya'll today is: is there any reason that I need to stick with KDE native (would that be the right term?) applications, or can I freely use those Gnome applications I like in KDE (and, presumably, vice-versa)? I guess the short answer is yes altough a few are going to give you problems, you will be pleased though to find out what will work. Have a look at XFce www.xfce.org Regards, Dan Gordon -- Tue Oct 7 14:02:26 EDT 2003 14:02:26 up 3 days, 1:45, 2 users, load average: 0.35, 0.17, 0.09 Sacred cows make great hamburgers. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] webcam recommendations needed
On Tuesday 07 October 2003 02:55 am, Damian Gatabria wrote: Hi. Yesterday i started working at a small business that is interested in using PC's with webcams as security cameras .. you know, to monitor customers, that kind of thing. The idea is that the PC should be running Linux. I have zero experience with webcams, and from what i've read, performance and resolution can be real problems as drivers vary in quality. So, is there any brand or model that could be useful for this (resolution should be good enough to make it possible to recognize a face standing at about 3 or 4 meters from the camera) under Linux? Thanks Damian Hi Damian - I'm using a Logitech Pro 3000 (Quickcam) that works pretty good under Linux/Mandrake. I'm not sure if its still made though. I'll send you a snapshot taken with it using Camstream - its not 9 - 12 feet, (more like 3) but it should give you an idea of the quality. -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] have we killed the reason we are here?
(I'm 3 days behind in my reading, apologies if this has been covered to death). Thanks Ed. I'm new here these last few weeks and felt it wasn't my place, but I wholeheartedly agree. Too much unrelated blathering going on. ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED]@linux-mandrake.com on 10/05/2003 04:51:07 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:Mandrake Off topic [EMAIL PROTECTED], newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:[newbie] have we killed the reason we are here? My patience with newbie is wearing somewhat thin too. I find myself frequently just marking all messages as read without reading them because so many are OT of just personal conversations. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] VIA KT600 chipset
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 7, 2003 07:30 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: [..] N B, I've got a KT400a and 9.2. Basically the same chipset as the KT600. Everything should work right out of the box. The 6 channel VIA AC97 works great. You don't really need a 600 unless your gonna use a XP 3200+ with 400Mhz FSB (the only difference between the 400a and 600). Both my chipset and the KT600 support SATA, but from all I've read, I'd stick to usin the ATA/133 ports, and forget SATA with Linux. It won't be any faster, probly slower than /133 anyhow. Thanks Tom. I'll file your response under useful stuff until somebody around here asks me to build something other than a P 4 or dual Athlon machine. Seems to be almost all I'm asked about the last six weeks. Other than the usual K8 (Athlon FX51, Opteron, and AMD 64) requests that can't be filled at the moment simply because no processors or motherboards are available. Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 11:18:13 up 17 days, 39 min, 1 user, load average: 0.52, 0.25, 0.27 Wrinkles should merely indicate where smiles have been. -- Mark Twain -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/gvaJG11CaRuZZSIRAl4KAJ9XC0I4VrPv28YG9eWdy07ChE2wfACdFBQA mQPhrm+UydCZ2G0b8WLysUM= =YGcU -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] VIA KT600 chipset
On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 08:30, Tom Brinkman wrote: N B, I've got a KT400a and 9.2. Basically the same chipset as the KT600. Everything should work right out of the box. The 6 channel VIA AC97 works great. You don't really need a 600 unless your gonna use a XP 3200+ with 400Mhz FSB (the only difference between the 400a and 600). Both my chipset and the KT600 support SATA, but from all I've read, I'd stick to usin the ATA/133 ports, and forget SATA with Linux. It won't be any faster, probly slower than /133 anyhow. Thanks, Tom. You're right, of course. The main dif btw the two chipsets is the FSB speed. Its just that I've fallen in love with an EpoX board with the KT600. I got a small grant to build (I think that's what the committee liked - sweat equity) four lab workstations to run free software and National Semi's Labview for Linux, and could probably squeeze in the XP3200+ CPUs, but I sure don't have to for this application. They'll replace six Pentium 133 machines running Win95! The lab already has an nbd special KT333 computer running MDK 9.1. I know enough to stay away from the nForce chipsets. I'm thinking of the future too; in two years the kid they hire to replace me (at twice my salary) can upgrade to the by-then cheap 400 MHz FSB CPUs and soup them up a bit. You're probably right that everything will work right out of the box, but I'm spending student technology fee money here so I'm a bit cautious. I wish I knew somebody with one of these boards; I'd bring my Knoppix disk to try it out. I presume the 2.6 kernel would solve it all in 2004 anyhow; maybe I can just take my time building them since they're not really needed until next summer. Regards, -- N. B. Day Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Patenting of Software Code
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Douglas, all, On 07 Oct 2003 11:22:06 +0100, Douglas Bainbridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about Re: [newbie] Patenting of Software Code: Unfortunately I was still working on a letter to my MEPs when the vote was taken. Didn't get off my backside quickly enough, alas. Do you think there would be any point in writing to them now? If so, any ideas as to the best line to take? It`s not useless to send, `cause the EP vote is just a sort of advice to the EU Commission - as I understand it - which has to decide yet how they handle the proposed law. So IMO the MEP`s still need reinforcing, if only to give them unbiased awareness of what is at stake. Personally I found Anne`s letter so very good that I didn`t change a word; just added a few lines of introduction in Dutch. Regards, =Dick Gevers= -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Encryption is an envelope - the contents are private. iD8DBQE/gxRfwC/zk+cxEdMRAjTdAKDrZcy2ikoEfBth+i7P0vjBlnUmrgCeL/kL bZw3pUK9wAZl2zk4w7Xs5PI= =yf3K -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Desktops and their progs
On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 05:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So my question for ya'll today is: is there any reason that I need to stick with KDE native (would that be the right term?) applications, or can I freely use those Gnome applications I like in KDE (and, presumably, vice-versa)? The reason I'm suspicious is that after having a working palm sync scheme with Kpilot, and then trying it with Evolution, Kpilot had a lot of trouble and it seemed to be because Evolution had switched the deamon to gnome-pilot . . . I've never had problems running Gnome apps in KDE or vice-versa (been using KDE for 2 yrs now), however I don't use evolution or kpilot so perhaps that's not much help. Hopefully someone else is using those two specific apps in KDE and can comment. Sharrea -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to print on a remote printer?
On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 15:16, p s wrote: In our local network (with win-nt server) we have a postscript printer. I can find it with LinNeighborhood (by using 'scan as user' and giving my login name and password), but MCC doesn't find it (perhaps not surprisingly). How could I use it from this machine running Mandrake? I was in the same situation. I switched printerdrake to expert mode (options-expert mode) , clicked add printer, selected printer on SMB/Windows 95/98/NT Server. You then have screens to enter the network details for the printer, and the printer model. It worked first time for me printing to a canon on a windows XP machine. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Fetchmail problem with duplicate messages
Ok, I'm running fetchmail --nokeep as a root cron hourly, and my /root/.fetchmailrc is as follows: poll mail.voyager.net proto pop3 user pass is mark here nokeep poll mail.voyager.net proto pop3 user pass is pauline here nokeep If I log in as root, and just issue the command fetchmail, it gets and deletes messages. I copied the rc over to /etc/fetchmailrc, and it still does it. I am at a loss to explain this. My previous setup, a copy of MDK 6.0 running on nearly the same hardware, didn't do this. I download all messages for both email accounts to the server, then serve it via IMAP to several computers in the home. Bryan Phinney wrote: On Tuesday 07 October 2003 12:43 am, Mark wrote: I checked, there was a blank /etc/fetchmailrc. I copied the info over, but I don't think if it was using that config file, it would have gotten ANY email at all. I didn't use fetchmailconf, as it didn't work, so I edited the file manually. I assume that you are still having the problem Can you post a copy of your fetchmailrc file (minus specific ids/passwords) and a copy of the cron command that you are using to call fetchmail? That might help trigger an epiphany for someone here. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] VIA KT600 chipset
On Tuesday October 7 2003 01:34 pm, 70233,2610 wrote: On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 08:30, Tom Brinkman wrote: N B, I've got a KT400a and 9.2. Basically the same chipset as the KT600. Everything should work right out of the box. The 6 channel VIA AC97 works great. You don't really need a 600 unless your gonna use a XP 3200+ with 400Mhz FSB (the only difference between the 400a and 600). Both my chipset and the KT600 support SATA, but from all I've read, I'd stick to usin the ATA/133 ports, and forget SATA with Linux. It won't be any faster, probly slower than /133 anyhow. Thanks, Tom. You're right, of course. The main dif btw the two chipsets is the FSB speed. Its just that I've fallen in love with an EpoX board with the KT600. I got a small grant to build (I think that's what the committee liked - sweat equity) four lab workstations to run free software and National Semi's Labview for Linux, and could probably squeeze in the XP3200+ CPUs, but I sure don't have to for this application. They'll replace six Pentium 133 machines running Win95! The lab already has an nbd special KT333 computer running MDK 9.1. I know enough to stay away from the nForce chipsets. I'm thinking of the future too; in two years the kid they hire to replace me (at twice my salary) can upgrade to the by-then cheap 400 MHz FSB CPUs and soup them up a bit. You're probably right that everything will work right out of the box, but I'm spending student technology fee money here so I'm a bit cautious. I wish I knew somebody with one of these boards; I'd bring my Knoppix disk to try it out. I presume the 2.6 kernel would solve it all in 2004 anyhow; maybe I can just take my time building them since they're not really needed until next summer. Regards,1.0 The only Epox board AMD recommends for the 3200+ is the EP-8RDA3+ ATX NVIDIA nForce2 Ultra 400 AGP DDR Award I'd advise to avoid nVidia nForce chipset boards for now. They're no better supported under Linux than their video chipsets. IOW's, proprietary drivers that need to be changed any time you change kernels. Plus all the other garbage that goes with needin a 3rd party closed source tainted kernel. There's been other complaints about nForce + Linux too. OTOH, if you've found an Epox VIA chipset board that supports 400mhz FSB, the AMD lack of recommend might not be that big'a deal. Epox makes quality boards. 3200+'s are relatively expensive tho. For the purposes you cite, I'd look at AMD recommended VIA chipset boards for a XP 2500+ (cheap, about $80). Probly the current 'best bang for the buck' cpu AMD currently sells. It overclocks well too. http://www2.amd.com/us-en/recmobo/ResultsHandler/1,,30_182_869_4348^7923~63674,00.html In any event, I believe you'll do well keeping to VIA chipset boards. Their best one's are usually their A series, eg, KT400a. The latest stepping, revision, ie, last of the runs with some improvements over prior steppings (production runs). But w'ta heck, the only way you could do worse is to buy a ready made computer ;) Then quality is certainly not there, an Linux compatibility is suspect also. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] a mega (mandrake) distro
On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 10:37, Charlie M. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 7, 2003 09:03 am, Aron Smith wrote: [..] actually I do, no need to be mean. Not being mean, stating a fact. For more additional software than you can shake a goat at add the contrib tree to the urpmi sources. Just remember that the contrib apps are unsupported. Speaking of which there's also the unsupported tree. Does anybody else think developers should work for free? Or that MandrakeSoft should be a non-profit company? I never said that ... I just would like it if they found way of making profit while still sharing the distro for free earn money of other aspects. That was tried and the company has spent this year in the French equivalent of Chapter 11. Concentration on the core business is required, the core is (or should always be IMHO) the Mandrake Linux distribution. It's hard to convince people to spend money to support the developers that make this possible when the Latest and Greatest edition of the operating system is available as a free download before paying customers receive their copy they bought. Take a swing at Debian or Slack or Gentoo or Sorceror if you want free. Or use the free download version of Mandrake Linux and package all of the additional software you want from source. Or download the source code for the software you want, learn how, and build your own distribution. Or if you're truly that impressed with Mandrake Linux, do as Greg posted, and buy a box set or one of the disk only sets. As with all Open Source Software the choices are yours. Don't forget to give your 9.1 distro to some one who wishes to escape the evil empire I always donate previous box sets, either to the public library or someone that has expressed enough interest to try and use the download edition. Free Download editions are always passed along to utter newbies, and are installed on every system i assemble for anyone. If they won't pay for a Windows license that's what they get to use as an OS. that's what I like to hear:-)) - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 11:28:33 up 17 days, 50 min, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.13 People say I live in my own little fantasy world... well, at least they *know* me there! -- D.L. Roth -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/gvnKG11CaRuZZSIRAkPIAJ9XOK4DYphpYmEnELpK0FHsBXn7sACePJGq Iy8+3IMrnCUqvZhqiPKIJgg= =8kgm -END PGP SIGNATURE- __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Desktops and their progs
On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 05:04, Sharrea Day wrote: On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 05:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So my question for ya'll today is: is there any reason that I need to stick with KDE native (would that be the right term?) applications, or can I freely use those Gnome applications I like in KDE (and, presumably, vice-versa)? The reason I'm suspicious is that after having a working palm sync scheme with Kpilot, and then trying it with Evolution, Kpilot had a lot of trouble and it seemed to be because Evolution had switched the deamon to gnome-pilot . . . I've never had problems running Gnome apps in KDE or vice-versa (been using KDE for 2 yrs now), however I don't use evolution or kpilot so perhaps that's not much help. Hopefully someone else is using those two specific apps in KDE and can comment. I use Evolution with the KDE desktop without any problems, in fact, last week I successfully sync'd my Garmin PDA/GPS with Evo (serial connection) using the included Gnome pilot program. Rich
Re: [newbie] webcam recommendations needed
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 23:55, Damian Gatabria wrote: Hi. Yesterday i started working at a small business that is interested in using PC's with webcams as security cameras .. you know, to monitor customers, that kind of thing. The idea is that the PC should be running Linux. I have zero experience with webcams, and from what i've read, performance and resolution can be real problems as drivers vary in quality. So, is there any brand or model that could be useful for this (resolution should be good enough to make it possible to recognize a face standing at about 3 or 4 meters from the camera) under Linux? I am using the el-cheapo camera that came with the HP-pavilion and it works fine a better camera say in the 30 to 50 $4 range should be awesome. Thanks Damian __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] why I can't insert a new OS in my LILO menu ??
Hi... I'm very newbie in Linux and I have a problem to make something here... After install Mandrake 9.1 in my hd, I bring another with win98 already have and install it... I trying to insert the win98 in LILO menu but it does not work... The hd that have md9.1 is hdc6 and the other, that have win98, is hdd1... What I did: Configuration - KDE - System - Boot Manager (LILO) in the second page (OS), Add another SO: boot disk = /dev/hdd1 label = windows98 Ok - Ok... even do that, the option to enter in windows98 does not show in LILO menu... What I miss or what I did wrong ?? thanx in advance... Flávio Henrique Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] No sound with Digital(SPDIF) out on CD-ROM with SB-Live
I'm having a spot of bother with playing CD's on my DIY special Athlon 1100 beast. I've just installed 9.1 on a dual boot with winXP and all is cool except I can't hear audio cd's played in my DVD-ROM drive. It's hooked up to a SB-Live Player 5.1 sound card via a spdif drive audio cable and works fine in WinXP but there doesn't seem to be any volume control for the digital input on Aumix. MP3s play ok through XMMS and the drive spins up and plays but I get no sound at all from the CD. Any help would be much appreciated. Cheers Jamie Taylor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] why I can't insert a new OS in my LILO menu ??
On Thursday 09 October 2003 04:46 am, Flávio Henrique wrote: Hi... I'm very newbie in Linux and I have a problem to make something here... After install Mandrake 9.1 in my hd, I bring another with win98 already have and install it... I trying to insert the win98 in LILO menu but it does not work... The hd that have md9.1 is hdc6 and the other, that have win98, is hdd1... What I did: Configuration - KDE - System - Boot Manager (LILO) in the second page (OS), Add another SO: boot disk = /dev/hdd1 label = windows98 Ok - Ok... even do that, the option to enter in windows98 does not show in LILO menu... What I miss or what I did wrong ?? thanx in advance... Flávio Henrique Go to the command line and as root run lilo command: #su #lilo -- Yankl Tiny IT guy. 100 % Micro$oft free. Registered linux users 181086 URL: http://yankele.com --- To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] why I can't insert a new OS in my LILO menu ??
On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 00:52, yankl wrote: On Thursday 09 October 2003 04:46 am, Flávio Henrique wrote: Hi... I'm very newbie in Linux and I have a problem to make something here... After install Mandrake 9.1 in my hd, I bring another with win98 already have and install it... I trying to insert the win98 in LILO menu but it does not work... The hd that have md9.1 is hdc6 and the other, that have win98, is hdd1... What I did: Configuration - KDE - System - Boot Manager (LILO) in the second page (OS), Add another SO: boot disk = /dev/hdd1 label = windows98 Ok - Ok... even do that, the option to enter in windows98 does not show in LILO menu... What I miss or what I did wrong ?? thanx in advance... Flávio Henrique Go to the command line and as root run lilo command: #su #lilo After type lilo I receive a following message: Warning: LBA32 addressing assumed Fatal: Not a number: padrã and nothing happens... Flávio Henrique Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] why I can't insert a new OS in my LILO menu ??
On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 07:10, Flávio Henrique wrote: On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 00:52, yankl wrote: On Thursday 09 October 2003 04:46 am, Flávio Henrique wrote: Hi... I'm very newbie in Linux and I have a problem to make something here... After install Mandrake 9.1 in my hd, I bring another with win98 already have and install it... I trying to insert the win98 in LILO menu but it does not work... The hd that have md9.1 is hdc6 and the other, that have win98, is hdd1... What I did: Configuration - KDE - System - Boot Manager (LILO) in the second page (OS), Add another SO: boot disk = /dev/hdd1 label = windows98 Ok - Ok... even do that, the option to enter in windows98 does not show in LILO menu... What I miss or what I did wrong ?? thanx in advance... Flávio Henrique Go to the command line and as root run lilo command: #su #lilo After type lilo I receive a following message: Warning: LBA32 addressing assumed Fatal: Not a number: padrã and nothing happens... Flávio Henrique I guess it means you better post your /etc/lilo.conf cause you don't have the right hdyx (here y is a letter for the drive position on the ide bus, and the x is a number for a partition. I don't think you are gonna get win9x on without it being on the first partition of the first drive on the first IDE bus, ie hda1 or maybe hda5. __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] why I can't insert a new OS in my LILO menu ??
I guess it means you better post your /etc/lilo.conf cause you don't have the right hdyx (here y is a letter for the drive position on the ide bus, and the x is a number for a partition. I don't think you are gonna get win9x on without it being on the first partition of the first drive on the first IDE bus, ie hda1 or maybe hda5. __ my Linux is in hdc6 and my win98 is in hdd1 Flávio Henrique Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] why I can't insert a new OS in my LILO menu ??
On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 19:27, ed tharp wrote: On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 07:10, Flávio Henrique wrote: On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 00:52, yankl wrote: On Thursday 09 October 2003 04:46 am, Flávio Henrique wrote: Hi... I'm very newbie in Linux and I have a problem to make something here... After install Mandrake 9.1 in my hd, I bring another with win98 already have and install it... I trying to insert the win98 in LILO menu but it does not work... The hd that have md9.1 is hdc6 and the other, that have win98, is hdd1... What I did: Configuration - KDE - System - Boot Manager (LILO) in the second page (OS), Add another SO: boot disk = /dev/hdd1 label = windows98 Ok - Ok... even do that, the option to enter in windows98 does not show in LILO menu... What I miss or what I did wrong ?? thanx in advance... Flávio Henrique Go to the command line and as root run lilo command: #su #lilo After type lilo I receive a following message: Warning: LBA32 addressing assumed Fatal: Not a number: padrã and nothing happens... Flávio Henrique I guess it means you better post your /etc/lilo.conf cause you don't have the right hdyx (here y is a letter for the drive position on the ide bus, and the x is a number for a partition. I don't think you are gonna get win9x on without it being on the first partition of the first drive on the first IDE bus, ie hda1 or maybe hda5. I seem to remember something about Win9x insisting that it be first because of a nasty habit of rewriting the boot sector. __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] why I can't insert a new OS in my LILO menu ??
On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 11:32:29 + Flávio Henrique [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess it means you better post your /etc/lilo.conf cause you don't have the right hdyx (here y is a letter for the drive position on the ide bus, and the x is a number for a partition. I don't think you are gonna get win9x on without it being on the first partition of the first drive on the first IDE bus, ie hda1 or maybe hda5. _ _ my Linux is in hdc6 and my win98 is in hdd1 Make this your windows entry in /etc/lilo.conf: other=/dev/hdd1 label=windows table=/dev/hdd map-drive=0x80 to=0x81 map-drive=0x81 to=0x80 Save the file, then (without the # sign) #su (enter root password) #lilo HTH, John Drouhard -- Tue Oct 7 21:46:13 CDT 2003 - They told me to install Windows 98 or better, so I installed Linux. Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] needing to be taken of mailing list
Ive sent several emails following the instructions on your site biut to no avail , im still receving emails The main prob is the amount of emails a day its just to many for me So please if you can help please do Thank You Drewbek
Re: [newbie] webcam recommendations needed
On Tuesday 07 October 2003 02:55, Damian Gatabria wrote: Yesterday i started working at a small business that is interested in using PC's with webcams as security cameras .. you know, to monitor customers, that kind of thing. Logitech 3000 Pro or 4000 Pro works easily with the built in pwc module. Picture quality is very nice. Lots of helpful information here: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/ The above site covers Philips plus the various other cams that use the pwc module. Powered by SuSE Linux 8.2 Professional KDE 3.1.1 KMail 1.5.1 This is a Microsoft-free computer Bryan S. Tyson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] why I can't insert a new OS in my LILO menu ??
my Linux is in hdc6 and my win98 is in hdd1 Make this your windows entry in /etc/lilo.conf: other=/dev/hdd1 label=windows table=/dev/hdd map-drive=0x80 to=0x81 map-drive=0x81 to=0x80 Save the file, then (without the # sign) #su (enter root password) #lilo well... I did it... but as root, 'cause my normal user don't have permission... but I'm still receiving the same message.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# lilo Warning: LBA32 addressing assumed Fatal: Not a number: padrã [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# Flávio Henrique HTH, John Drouhard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] why I can't insert a new OS in my LILO menu ??
It worked for me. I installed Linux 9.0 on a brand new 60 gig HD then slaved my old 40 gig Win98 drive to that one, pointed Lilo to it and it booted just fine. My Win drive has since crashed altogether so I am totally Linux now. I did my editing in MCC Russ I guess it means you better post your /etc/lilo.conf cause you don't have the right hdyx (here y is a letter for the drive position on the ide bus, and the x is a number for a partition. I don't think you are gonna get win9x on without it being on the first partition of the first drive on the first IDE bus, ie hda1 or maybe hda5. I seem to remember something about Win9x insisting that it be first because of a nasty habit of rewriting the boot sector. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mcc - security: options dun stick
- Original Message - From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 18:00 Subject: Re: [newbie] mcc - security: options dun stick On Tuesday 07 Oct 2003 6:05 am, Stormjumper wrote: referring to Derek's post on 27 Sep 2003, regarding exploits, i attempted to follow advice on putting an email address and clicking the check box for Security Alerts in Mandrake Control Center - Security - Basic however, the check box option reverts to unchecked (unticked) and the Security Administrator reverts to default the next time i enter the MCC - Security Panel. is there any reason for this, or any way to work around the non-registering settings? or can i enter the values manually in a config file somewhere instead? i looked inside /etc/security and /etc/security/msec, but couldn't identify the corresponding config file. can someone direct me as to what values to enter in which file? btw, i'm running 9.1. thanks I don't know why your settings are not sticking, but you can edit the /etc/security/msec/security.conf file directly insert the line MAIL_USER= Also to get mails about failed cron jobs edit /etc/crontab and insert MAILTO= Don't forget for the mails to be sent you need a mail server such as postfix to be running. If you do not have a mail server then install ssmtp RPM and edit the mailhub parameter in /etc/ssmtp/ssmtp.conf to send mails to your ISP thanks derek. i did as instructed, and inserted the MAIL_USER= line in /etc/security/msec/security.conf. now if i return to mcc, it shows the correct email address, but the check box for Security Alerts in Mandrake Control Center - Security - Basic is still unchecked. i believe i need another parameter to activate that option. strangely, security.conf is a totally empty file before i editted it. alternatively, can someone (preferably running at standard security level) attach a their security.conf file for reference? or direct me to a web resource that contains descriptions of wat parameters do what in security.conf? i've checked 'man msec', which directed me to /usr/share/doc/msec-???/security.txt, but that only provided a description of what the various security levels meant. thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] The password you typed is invalid.Please try again.
Fajar Priyanto wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 07 October 2003 10:51 am, mike wrote: Hello, I just tried to use userdrake from the kde configuration menu and it asked for root password I typed it in correctly :-) and it gave me this message. The password you typed is invalid. Please try again. After you fill in the password, did you press ENTER or click on OK with mouse? Sometimes if we just hit enter, it screws. Believe it or not. I tried typing in password and hitting enter also, clicking the OK button. Also tried starting from eterm window as superuser still same result invalid password. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Savage demo (fairly long post)
(I posted this to both newbie and the Mandrake games list - I was afraid that some here were not subcribed to the game list - follow whichever thread/list that you prefer) Okay, the Savage demo for Linux has been released - it looks pretty impressive. You can get all the details/download it from: http://www.happypenguin.org/news I'm curious to see if anyone has problems - I had a few. Same problems I had with Enemy Territory and Urban Terror. Seems my tmp file is not big enough to uncompress these files. I issued a export TMP=/home/darklord/tmp but that still didn't work. I finally edited /root/.bash_profile and added: export TEMP=/home/darklord/tmp export TMP=/home/darklord/tmp export TMPDIR=/home/darklord/tmp and this seemed to fix that problem. Everytime I had tried to install it after I got the error messages relating to room, the file corrupted and I'd have to extract it again. So...like most *.sh files, I installed it as root, sh filename. It installed cleanly (the license agreement is *long* reading), and it even let me pick where to install it, including symbolic links. I installed it in /usr/local/games and put the link in /usr/local/bin. Then it asks if I want to launch the game - of course, being root I said no. I ran it from my normal user account, and it immediately launched an updater which reported that it did not have write permissions. So I exited, or tried. When I got to the final screen thats says buy or exit, I clicked exit and it stayed there. I did get my mouse cursor back though. I switched to cntrl alt f4, logged in as root, did a killall -9 savage and then switched back to f7 but only got a black screen so I had to kill my Xserver and start again. So I started it as root (ugh), it ran the updater, and launched the game. Its an online game so I quit out, thinking now I can run it as a normal user. Nope - still launches the updater and I still don't have permissions. So, I deleted the whole thing, links and all, and reinstalled it into /home/darklord/Games/Savage_Demo with a link to /usr/local/bin. Game now runs, updates and plays from my normal user account, but I still can't exit the game without killing my Xserver. I hope this helps others and maybe someone can tell me what to do to get the game to exit cleanly - it looks terrific! :-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT
On October 7, 2003 06:11 am, Margot wrote: The OT list has been considerably less aggressive lately, and is actually a fun place to be right now - recent discussions have included the death of Latin, interior decoration and soft furnishings, and male and female beauty products - as well as the usual arguments about war and religion etc of course! We made a conscious decision to try to keep most of our OT stuff on the OT list, to avoid newbies being put off the newbie list by endless personal conversations that had nothing to do with Mandrake problems - apparently there were complaints to the expert list that we were too busy having OT conversations and not dealing with the newbie problems! Obviously we want to keep the newbie list a friendly place, but for a while the friendship element seemed to take over, and the poor newbies were flocking to the expert list to get answers to questions that could have been answered here. Lee, please do come and join us on the OT list! Hope to see you there... Margot Actually, I have to agree with Lee, the OT list has largely been flame wars and policitally motivated ones at that. Not to mention a lot of anti-american (and anti North Amercian) mud slinging. I've taken to popping in..opening a couple of posts and then toasting every message on the list. I'll be unsubscribing to that list as soon as I can get around to it because it is most definitely not a friendly place. If I want flame wars about politics and religion I can go to the local bar, thanks. ttfn John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
