Re: [newbie] Booting mdk/w98/dos
On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 10:25:51AM +0100, John Richard Smith wrote: ajx wrote: Graham Banks wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Anybody got a boot setup allowing different combinations of disks/partitions to be accessible in windows linux? I've got two hard disks, the second of which is online only for occasional backups. The first has 5 partitions: a windows one, a dos one and 3 linux ones (in that order). At present I use a boot manager for Windows, called xosl, which manages the dos/windows side of this perfectly. snip I currently have 1 of my computers running win98SE, win2000 (for program compatibility) and MDK9.1 I use XOSL as a boot manager on this machine as I can setup passwords for the different oses and make booting the winblows partitions a little more secure. All I did was to install lilo on the MDK partition that contains the /boot. I then pointed XOSL to this partition, labelled it Mandrake (as the default os of course). I set the bios to boot only fron hard drive and viola! - works flawlessly (did so with MDK8.2 and MDK9.0 as well) I set lilo to boot after 2 seconds and removed the options for the windows boot options. But all you have done really is replace the windblows bootloader with this XOSL loader,and I'm guessing, in the MBR of whichever first partition is Windblows , and then installed lilo as a linux loader in chain loader fashion. Now, perhaps this XOSL loader is more secure than windblows own, but if so I doubt by much, since password configuration to both windblows has been a feature of W98 and W2K from the start.You only have to choose to set it. So why bother with all this XOSL stuff, just let lilo be installed in the MBR of which ever windblows OS is first and chain load as before. I think he wants different combinations of FAT partitions to be visible in DOS and Windows. lilo will let the Microsoft systems, when booting, make their own decisions as to what is visible, which is precisely what he does not want. Now there is a utility called letterassign that runs in Windows, (and probably in Dos too, but I'm not sure) that allows you to tell a Windows system what partitions it is to see, and which partitions are to correspond to which so-called drive letters. I've used it with Windows 98SE, and it seems to work. -- hendrik John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Second HD
On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 03:25:10PM +0200, Raffaele Belardi wrote: Yes, it was my first setup. hda (primary IDE channel 1) contained a windows, hdb (secondary IDE channel 1) contained MDK8.1. Lilo installs in the MBR of hda and boots both os without problems. hdb is the slave (second) hard disk on the first IDE chain. This is one of the disks that ancient PC's (like the one I'm using now) used to be able to boot from. What they couldn't do (and neither did mine) is boot from either HD on the second IDE chain. Even on such a machine, you could arrange to have /boot be near the start of a HD on the first IDE chain, and the rest of the Linux system could be anywhere. With modern BIOSes, all is different, of course. Things changed when they started booting from -- gasp!! -- CDROMs. -- hendrik. I don't remember the details since it was more than a year ago, but since it was my first linux installation and worked immediately, I assume it was straightforward. raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have heard that Linux can boot from a drive in the secondary IDE channel. Is this true? And a boot manager will still allow me to manage booting from both disks? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] what is hdlist, anyway?
When adding a new installation source, I am asked by MCC to specify the relative path to the hdlist. What *is* an hdlist, anyway? What is the path relative to? CD 2 pf the Mandrake 9.0 installatino doesn;t seem to have an hdlist. Where is it to be found? And how am I supposed to find the hdlists, anyway? -- hendrik Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problem with firewall
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 01:23:45AM +0100, Derek Jennings wrote: On Tuesday 01 Apr 2003 12:42 am, Pedro Alves wrote: Hello all, I live in a student residence in Aachen in Germany. I have internet access in my room, the problem is that the firewall they've installed is configured in a way that instead of blocking ports, everytime someone uses a forbiden port, he gets automatically banned from using internet! The first time it happened to me, I've learned that there's an incompatibility between CUPS searching for network printers and the firewall. They say it was port 511. So I've disabled CUPS service. A couple of days later I get network again, but after a few hours running ok, BAMM! no network again. This time it was port 541. The first time I was blocked, I was using Mandrake 9.0, and the second time I had just installed 9.1 and disabled CUPS. I think I was trying to use Kopete with ICQ plugin when I went down. - Is there anyway I can check which ports my PC trying to use whithout being connected? I'm afraid to plug in the cable, because I don't know which service may knock my connection down. - Does Mandrake Firewall block outgoing ports, or just incoming connections? if the latest is true how can I block outgoing ports?? Thanks in advance Best Regards Pedro Alves Portugal Yes the Mandrake firewall can block outgoing ports. Just go through the Mandrake firewall GUI to get the firewall started, and then edit the file /etc/shorewall/policy Change the line fwnet ACCEPT to fwnet DROP This will block ALL traffic from your computer to the Internet. (Restart shorewall and you will see) Now you must make some 'holes' in the firewall to allow the services you want. Edit the file /etc/shorewall/rules add lines like this :- ACCEPTfw net tcp http,https,ftp,25,pop3 ACCEPTfw net udp http,https,ftp,25,pop3 Define all the services your university permits either by their name or port number. You will find a list of service names/ports at /etc/services Then restart shorewall with service shorewall restart in a root terminal. Once you have set up the files by hand. Do NOT use the Mandrake Firewall GUI again. It will undo all your work :-( And just in case, make a copy of the rules file somewhere else, so you can easily restor it if it gets GUIed by accident. HTH derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Kernel compile from src ques.
On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 04:50:42PM -0600, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Sunday March 30 2003 11:08 am, Angus Auld wrote: Thanks for the reply Tom. I am very confused as to the process here. I have upgraded my kernel once in 8.2, and again in 9.0. I thought that the idea of a src rpm was to rebuild it against your particular arch and hardware, and then install it like any other rpm. (using the correct method for kernel install rather than upgrade of course). What is the purpose of the .src.rpm for the kernel? You would rebuild that 2.4.19.32mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm for your system and arch, but in the process you end with a sh!+load of kernels you don't want or need. IE, the SMP kernel, the PPC kernel, Linus-kernel, and several others. That's why it was so large and had so many dependencies. IOW's it's a collection of all Mandrake source for various kernels. You only need the kernel-source rpm for the type of kernel you use. Sorry, I should'a explain that better in my earlier reply. But ya really ough'ta read over the mandrakeuser.org kernel link. It usually explains things better than I do. Actually the whole site does. I get confused too ;) http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/install/index.html#ku OTOH, let me interject some experienced opinion ( I always do anyhow ;) Compiling for your specific arch above i586 will only provide imagined improvement. Rarely anything measurable. Believe me, I've been tryin to prove myself wrong on this for years. Pushin optimizations too far will most often present more problems. Only the little bit of software specifically optimized to take advantage, would benefit anyway. Optimizing for Athlon FPU/cycle advantages over Intel does provide a touch better performance, but mostly, with most all apps, its imagined too. A lot of the things traditionally done in optimization phases of compilers are now done in hardware in modern processors. As a result, it is less essential to do them in the compilers. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Damn, Jr damn near won Texas again Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Still unable to enjoy Mandrake 9.0 on my pure-Linux machine
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 09:57:58AM +, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 26 Mar 2003 10:28 pm, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 04:54:58PM -0500, et wrote: what does cat /etc/hosts say? what does cat /etc/resolv.conf say is DNS runnig? named? ypserv? Thanks. You have given me a few leads. Here's an incomplete reply. /etc/hosts: 10.0.0.10 topoi.pooq.com topoi 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost 172.25.1.1 topoi.pooq.com topoi This looks strange to me. I would have thought that it was being told to look in two places for topoi, which would certainly confuse it. FWIW I had huge problems with massive delays, and it turned out to be just this sort of problems, so stick with it. What IP did you give for your nic? I removed the 10.0.0.10, no implrovement in CDROM mount time, although MCC now starts up in only 45 seconds. /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 204.101.251.1 nameserver 209.226.175.223 I don't recognise these nameservers. Could they be your isp's dns? I don't know. I booted with the DSL modem on, got an internet connexion, and it seems to be defaulting to 216.138.223.134, which is not on the list, but is what my ISP provides. I guess the pppoe setup provides this DNS. -- hendrik Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Still unable to enjoy Mandrake 9.0 on my pure-Linux machine
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 09:57:58AM +, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 26 Mar 2003 10:28 pm, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 04:54:58PM -0500, et wrote: what does cat /etc/hosts say? what does cat /etc/resolv.conf say is DNS runnig? named? ypserv? Thanks. You have given me a few leads. Here's an incomplete reply. /etc/hosts: 10.0.0.10 topoi.pooq.com topoi 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost 172.25.1.1 topoi.pooq.com topoi This looks strange to me. I would have thought that it was being told to look in two places for topoi, which would certainly confuse it. FWIW I had huge problems with massive delays, and it turned out to be just this sort of problems, so stick with it. I understand. I'm baffled, though, what IP numbers have to do CDROMs. What IP did you give for your nic? Two network interface cards: one for the outside world, which has pppoe running on it through a DSL modem, and whose IP number is supposed to be irrelevant (and which I suspect has been set to 10.0.0.10 by some agent in the Mandrake installation code), and one for the LAN, which is 172.25.1.1. The IP number that the pppoe link provides is fixed as 216.138.195.194, but of course that's only valid after the link is up. Right now I don't have a DNS running on Mandrake yet. Do you know of any way to give a different IP number for topoi,pooq.com for users on the LAN and users fron the rest of the world? Or dous routing somehow automatically know LAN packets for 216.138.195.194 hav arrived when the arrive at 172.25.1.1 and don't have to visit the other interface? Anyway, the proper IP number for topoi.pooq.com is 216.138.195.194, although local users can use 172.25.1.1 -- hendrik /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 204.101.251.1 nameserver 209.226.175.223 I don't recognise these nameservers. Could they be your isp's dns? No. They aren't. I wonder where they came from. Mind you, one of them may have been my ISP's DNS a long while ago; they have recently suffered a merger, and they DNSes they tell me about now are different from anything I've got configures anywhere on any OS. So this is definitely something to change. I'll probably have some time tomorrow to try out all this stuff. -- hendrik Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Still unable to enjoy Mandrake 9.0 on my pure-Linux machine
Still no joy. The CDROM still takes ages to mount. It almost as if something is tying up a bunch of low-level system stuff until it expires on a time-out. This is really interfering with using Mandrake 9.0. I might blame it on slow hardware (a 100MHz Pentium), except no such delays occur with SuSE Linux running on the same hardware (dual boot) During boot, it takes ninety seconds to start up devFS. Is this normal? In case the trouble was with devFS (one of the differences between Mandrake and the SuSE system I have no trouble with), I tries doing without devFS by changing lilo.conf and rerunning lilo. Except that it didn try to start up d devFS, no difference. It still took two minutes and twenty-seven seconds to mount a CD. So devFS seems not to be the problem. Subsequent operations from the CD are slow too: 29 seconds to ls a directory, 14 seconds fo unmount the CD. It takes over two minutes to start Mandrake Command Centre. Most of the time it appears to be doing nothing. It takes a minute to get to the place where I can turn system services on and off. Under the curcumstances, comleting the installation of Mandrakd 9.0 is really hopeless. I did this in the hope of answering Miark question: On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 02:31:40PM -0500, Miark wrote: Is autofs running? If so, try turning it off with drakxservices. Miark Is drakxservices the thing you get to turn services on and off from the MCC? If so, autofs was not even listed as something to turn on or off. It really seems as though the system is locking up for times varying from thirty+seconds to over a minute now and then. Mounting a CD does eventually work (today I mounted an old OS/2 shareware CD flawlessly, except that it took four minutes). Now and then it does a read from the CD (as evidenced by the drive light), with *huge* time delays. I'm used to it doing a few reads in less than+a second on the old SuSE system wtill running on the same hardware (dual boot, SuSE and Mandrake) and returning immediately afteward with a successful mount. So I wonder what could cause the delays. I sat and watched in boot Mandrake 9.0+today. The first noticeable delay was a minute and a half or so starting devFS+demon. Id announces that it is starting the devFS demon, and about 90 seconds +later (times without a clock) it announces success. The only other delays during boot are understandable timeouts:waiting for adsl +to come up (the modem was off) and waiting to synchronize the clock (again, no +net). Is ninety-seconds a normal time to take to start up devFS? Could startup delay with devFS be related to the slow CD mount problem? Is it possible to reconfigure to skip devFS somehow (I suspect not, but I'll ask+anyway.) What does devFS do, anyway? -- hendrik Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Still unable to enjoy Mandrake 9.0 on my pure-Linux machine
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 04:35:16PM -0500, Guy Rouillier wrote: Hendrik Boom wrote: During boot, it takes ninety seconds to start up devFS. Is this normal? I have a slightly faster system (dual Pentium 233 MMX) and yes, DevFS takes forever during boot. Don't know why. I've been thinking of disabling it, but I haven't figured out what it does yet. My system runs about as badly with and without DefFS. It seems to be a new way of organising device files, with symbolic links for retrocompatibility. It is supposed to really shine for USB devices. I have no such devices. It's really easy to remove if you use lilo. Just remove the line that refers to it. Only, just to be sure you don't lose everything, copy the lilo paragraph you use and make the change in the copy. That way you will have a boot-time choice, and can choose the old scheme if the new one fails. Doing thie sped up the boot process a little, but had no effect on my real problems. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Still unable to enjoy Mandrake 9.0 on my pure-Linux machine
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 04:54:58PM -0500, et wrote: what does cat /etc/hosts say? what does cat /etc/resolv.conf say is DNS runnig? named? ypserv? Thanks. You have given me a few leads. Here's an incomplete reply. /etc/hosts: 10.0.0.10 topoi.pooq.com topoi 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost 172.25.1.1 topoi.pooq.com topoi /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 204.101.251.1 nameserver 209.226.175.223 I don't recognise these nameservers. Looks like something I could fix. I certainly haven't asked to have a DNS or a YP running, but I presume installing 9.0 will have set up some kind of default. It's certainly my intention to have DNS running eventually, but I still haven't configured it. I'll check whether I'm actually running DNS, named, or ypserv when I next get to boot Mandrake again (this machine is used as internet gateway by a number of others, so I can't just reboot and check it right now. But so far, while runnung Mandrake, the net connexion is off. Could it be that mounting a CD requires a net connexion? Does MCC require a net connexion? Is it not possible to configure a stand-alone Mandrake system? -- hendrik Wednesday 26 March 2003 02:10 pm, Hendrik Boom wrote: Still no joy. The CDROM still takes ages to mount. It almost as if something is tying up a bunch of low-level system stuff until it expires on a time-out. This is really interfering with using Mandrake 9.0. I might blame it on slow hardware (a 100MHz Pentium), except no such delays occur with SuSE Linux running on the same hardware (dual boot) During boot, it takes ninety seconds to start up devFS. Is this normal? In case the trouble was with devFS (one of the differences between Mandrake and the SuSE system I have no trouble with), I tries doing without devFS by changing lilo.conf and rerunning lilo. Except that it didn try to start up d devFS, no difference. It still took two minutes and twenty-seven seconds to mount a CD. So devFS seems not to be the problem. Subsequent operations from the CD are slow too: 29 seconds to ls a directory, 14 seconds fo unmount the CD. It takes over two minutes to start Mandrake Command Centre. Most of the time it appears to be doing nothing. It takes a minute to get to the place where I can turn system services on and off. Under the curcumstances, comleting the installation of Mandrakd 9.0 is really hopeless. I did this in the hope of answering Miark question: On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 02:31:40PM -0500, Miark wrote: Is autofs running? If so, try turning it off with drakxservices. Miark Is drakxservices the thing you get to turn services on and off from the MCC? If so, autofs was not even listed as something to turn on or off. It really seems as though the system is locking up for times varying from thirty+seconds to over a minute now and then. Mounting a CD does eventually work (today I mounted an old OS/2 shareware CD flawlessly, except that it took four minutes). Now and then it does a read from the CD (as evidenced by the drive light), with *huge* time delays. I'm used to it doing a few reads in less than+a second on the old SuSE system wtill running on the same hardware (dual boot, SuSE and Mandrake) and returning immediately afteward with a successful mount. So I wonder what could cause the delays. I sat and watched in boot Mandrake 9.0+today. The first noticeable delay was a minute and a half or so starting devFS+demon. Id announces that it is starting the devFS demon, and about 90 seconds +later (times without a clock) it announces success. The only other delays during boot are understandable timeouts:waiting for adsl +to come up (the modem was off) and waiting to synchronize the clock (again, no +net). Is ninety-seconds a normal time to take to start up devFS? Could startup delay with devFS be related to the slow CD mount problem? Is it possible to reconfigure to skip devFS somehow (I suspect not, but I'll ask+anyway.) What does devFS do, anyway? -- hendrik -- Linux counter number 167806 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Slighty OT: Strange Computer Noises/Cold Boot Issues
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 11:18:18PM +, Jordan Elver wrote: Hi Tom, Generally cold starts where you hear whining and buzzing are from cheap fans that use sleeve bearings instead of ball bearings. OTOH, these don't prevent bootup other than if the fans are so impaired as to cause overheating before the system can complete the bootstrap process. Harddrives (and CD drives) can also produce similar sounds when cold, and it's not a good sign. Same deal, bearings. You can check by placing a rod of some sort (heck, I've used a spoon), in contact with the drives side and the other end against the bone just by your outer ear opening. This greatly amplifies the sound you hear from the insides of the drive, and pinpoints which drive. You might get away with it for a while, but it's a sure sign of pending mechanical failure of the device. Right, that settles it. Definately doing a major backup soon! I've been telling myself I should of by now for ages :) I lost an important 30g, 8 month old, IBM, 7200rpm to this symptom ;( In that case, the drive was run 24/7, till I went out of town for a week. It would never spin up again, system wouldn't boot. Lost whatever I didn't have already backup'd to CDr's. Thanks for everyones help. I shall now sit and wait for it to fail! One of the easiest ways I have found to make a backup is to get another hard disk, plug it into your machine (assuming you still have a spare IDE socket or whatever), partition it, make a file system, mount it, and copy everything. Then take it out of your machine and put it on a shelf, so it's not clobbered when everything else is. I got one of these special HD caddies that let you slide the HD in and out easily when the power is off. They're designed for people whose data are so precious that they take them home with them so that if their local burglar coms to call at the office, they may lose the computer but keep the data. I'm planning on getting *another* HD like this in case disaster strikes while I am making a backup! A university I worked at decades ago were backing up an IBM 360 by copying from one disk drive to another) when, unbeknownst to them, there was a thunderstorm raging outside. A lighning strike caused a power surge when both disks were seeking at the same time - complete wipeout! They had to get new original software from IBM. Normally one might think a new hard disk is too expensive, but there's a chance that you'll nedd a new one soon anyway. Anyway, if you already have a workable backup system, use it before it is too late! Start with the most important data, and then the rest. Don't wait until you have the ideal backup system. I once had a HD start to go wonky, and it died completely in the three days it took be so set up a backup system. I lost a lot of stuff. I had to recreate a bunch of financial information from original documents and get an extension on my tax filing date -- the people at the tax department were very understanding about suddenly dead computers! -- hendrik Cheers, Jord -- Jordan Elver I thought I could see the light at the end of the tunnel, but it was just some b*stard with a torch, bringing me more work. -- David Brent (The Office) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
can't find mirror list (WAS:Re: [newbie] 9.1 final has been released)
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 12:31:09PM -0500, Miark wrote: The Mandrake mirrors have received e-mail announcing the availability of 9.1 final. Miark I found the Mandrake Club page where they announce Mandrake 9.1 It is so nice as to confirm that I am an alumni member. But when I follow the link MandrakeClub Mirrors script, it just brings me back to the same Mandrake Club page where they announce Mandrake 9.1, which does not contain a mirrors list. Is this a bug in the web site, or is there something I should know? -- hendrik Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM takes minutes to mount
Still no joy. On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 02:31:40PM -0500, Miark wrote: Is autofs running? If so, try turning it off with drakxservices. Miark Is drakxservices the thing you get to turn services on and off from the MCC? If so, autofs wsa not even listed as something to turn on or off. It really seems as though the system is locking up for times varying from thirty seconds to over a minute now and then. Mounting a CD does eventually work (today I mounted an old OS/2 shareware CD flawlessly, except that it took four minutes). Now and then id does a read from the CD (as evidenced by the drive light), with *huge* time delays. I'm used to it doing a few reads in less than a second on the old SuSE system wtill running on the same hardware (dual boot, SuSE and Mandrake) and returning immediately afteward with a successful mount. So I wonder what could cause the delays. I sat and watched in boot Mandrake 9.0 today. The first noticeable delay was a minute and a half or so starting devFS demon. Id announces that it is starting the devFS demon, and about 90 seconds later (times without a clock) it announces success. The only other delays during boot are understandable timeouts:waiting for adsl to come up (the modem was off) and waiting to synchronize the clock (again, no net). Is ninety-seconds a normal time to take to start up devFS? Could startup delay with devFS be related to the slow CD mount problem? Is it possible to reconfigure to skip devFS somehow (I suspect not, but I'll ask anyway.) What does devFS do, anyway? -- hendrik On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 16:11:45 -0500 Hendrik Boom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 05:45:19PM -0500, Miark wrote: It's simpler to type the following on the commandline as root: supermount disable Well, I did this. and to make it permanent: supermount -i disable And then I did this to make it permanent. Now it takes five and a half minutes to mount the second Mandrake 9.0 installation disk. The problem is still not fixed. Once mounted, however, ls /mnt/cdrom is nearly instantaeous, but ls /mnt/cdrom/Boot took 34 seconds. I unmounted, umount /mnt/cdrom and the umount finished in only 14 seconds. Presumably tht ls /mnt/cdrom could be satisfied from some cache or other, and didn't actually have to consult the CD. In case it is relevant (supermount seems to work by changing /etc/fstab), here's the contents of /etc/fstab: - cut here /dev/hdb8 / ext2 defaults 1 1 /dev/hda8 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hdd/mnt/cdrom iso9660 codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-15,noauto,nosuid,ro,user,nodev,exec 0 0 /dev/fd0/mnt/floppy vfat codepage=850,sync,unhide,noauto,iocharset=iso8859-15,nosuid,user,exec,nodev 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/hda5 /suse ext2defaults1 1 /dev/hdb11 /home2 ext2 defaults1 2 - cot here No mention of supermount anywhere. -- hendrik Miark On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:41:45 -0500 Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I solved this problem by disabling supermount on my removable drives.You can do this in the Mandrake Control Center - Mount Points. -CD Rom or Floppy - Options - supermount. -- Michael Shinobi Mandrake 9.0 http://lazyalfalfa.tripod.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] problem with Linuxconf 'Help' window height
On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 12:43:19PM -0500, David Williams wrote: On Sunday 16 March 2003 12:25 pm, cervixcouch wrote: For quite a number of the windows in Linuxconf, whenever I click 'Help' to get more information, the window that pops up is several times the height of the screen and there is no scrollbar present to scroll down the information. Maximizing the screen does no good and clicking the 'X' in the upper left hand corner and selecting 'size' does nothing either. Is there a setting somewhere where this window behaviour can be changed? Dont' know why, but I couldn't get them to resize either. You can hold down the ALT key and then drag with the mouse to see what you need to see. David Well, that's going to help a lot here. I'll finally be able to use Linuxconf. It does leave me to wonder why the boxes are so huge: a lot of them have a lot of really empty space. -- hendrik -- ( ) ( ) ( 0 0 ) ---( )--- o Linux is not The Answer. Yes is the answer. Linux is The Question Registered Linux user #300497 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Defragging FAT32 partitions from linux
On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 11:50:59AM +, Luke Stutters wrote: Could I defrag my Win98SE disc from linux? It's a bit difficult to do in Windows, as it insists on writing to the disc for no reason while defragging, which slows it down a lot. __ You could make a complete backup of your FAT partition containing Win98SE, (I used tar), then wipe the partition clean (using rm), and then reatore from backup. Of course, they you had better have enought space for the complete backup somewhere. I used a remote NFS-mounted partition on another machine for the backup, which Windows installation would have a hard time trashing (especially if you dosconnect the net!). It worked for me, while I was still installing Win98SE. During installation, it would repeatedly crash in different ways -- once I had the basic system working and had to install proper video drivers, printer drivers, etc. By backing up before installing each component, and, in case of failure, wiping and restoring from backup, I was able to get the thing working on only two or three days. Otherwise it would have taken over a week. All the time, Mandrake Linux worked just fine (although I did make sure to have a boot disk, and I did test it before I relied on it. So, I needed Linus to install Windows! I was worried that Windows might have position-dependent information that would become dislodged by this process, but in my installation, at least, that wasn't the case. I can't say if there would be something that would make it all fail on your system. But if you are worried, you might try making an extra backup af all user data, and when everything faile, reinstalling Windows from acratch and then restoring user data from backup. Of course yopu't better make sure you have a Mandrake bootdisk first, or you won't be able to get to Linux at all after the reinstall. -- hendrik Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM takes minutes to mount
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 05:45:19PM -0500, Miark wrote: It's simpler to type the following on the commandline as root: supermount disable Well, I did this. and to make it permanent: supermount -i disable And then I did this to make it permanent. Now it takes five and a half minutes to mount the second Mandrake 9.0 installation disk. The problem is still not fixed. Once mounted, however, ls /mnt/cdrom is nearly instantaeous, but ls /mnt/cdrom/Boot took 34 seconds. I unmounted, umount /mnt/cdrom and the umount finished in only 14 seconds. Presumably tht ls /mnt/cdrom could be satisfied from some cache or other, and didn't actually have to consult the CD. In case it is relevant (supermount seems to work by changing /etc/fstab), here's the contents of /etc/fstab: - cut here /dev/hdb8 / ext2 defaults 1 1 /dev/hda8 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hdd/mnt/cdrom iso9660 codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-15,noauto,nosuid,ro,user,nodev,exec 0 0 /dev/fd0/mnt/floppy vfat codepage=850,sync,unhide,noauto,iocharset=iso8859-15,nosuid,user,exec,nodev0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/hda5 /suse ext2defaults1 1 /dev/hdb11 /home2 ext2 defaults1 2 - cot here No mention of supermount anywhere. -- hendrik Miark On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:41:45 -0500 Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I solved this problem by disabling supermount on my removable drives.You can do this in the Mandrake Control Center - Mount Points. -CD Rom or Floppy - Options - supermount. -- Michael Shinobi Mandrake 9.0 http://lazyalfalfa.tripod.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM takes minutes to mount
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 10:34:03PM +, Andrew Scotchmer wrote: I'm having probs also with mounting the CDROM even with supermount uncheked. Whenever I try I get nothing at all. It just wont read the CDROM! Tried typing the command as root to disable but it just comes back saying supermount: command not found Andrew Unfortunately, that isn't quite my problem. The supermount command seems to be executing OK, and I can get it to insert and delete supermounts properly in /etc/fstab. But is still takes ages to mount a CD. I even tried a reboot, so I would be *sure* that it used the entries in the fstab. -- hendrik Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] CDROM takes minutes to mount
It takes a few minutes to mount a CDROM on my drive using Mandrake 9.0. This is too long. I have a dual-boot machine, choice of SuSE or Mandrake. There is no working Microsoft software on the machine. With SuSE it takes less than a second to mount the CDROM. I suspect very strongly that this is a software problem. While booting, I get the following relevant-looking messages: ... ... hdd: HL-DT-DT CD-ROM GCR-8520B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive ... ... hdd: lost interrupt hdd: lost interrupt hdd: lost interrupt hdd: ATAPI 52x CD-ROM drive, 128kN Cache, DMA Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12 ... ... I mount the CDROM (it happens to be the second Mandrake installation CD) with the following command: mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdd /mnt/cdrom (except on SuSE I mount it on /cdrom instead of /mnt/cdrom. Oh yes, SuSE does not give me the lost interrupt messages either.) It then sits around for a few minutes, and finally comes back mounted. The Mandrake I use is the Mandrake PowerPack Edition 9.0, but during installation it would not look at any but the first installation CD. It also seems to have failed to install emacs. I encountered this problem while trying to add additional installation sources. Starting up the Mandrake Control Centre took more than four minutes. A little hard to understand if this is just a thin shell for launching other programs. Then it tales a long time to start up the sources manager, and finally, showing it the other CD's takes a long time. When I actually got the second installation CD mounted, I still dod not succeed in getting it to look at it. since (a) I can't figure out what I am to fill in as relative path to synthesis/hdlist. The manual just tells me that if I don't understand what it is talking about I will be wise to leave the window via cancel instead of save changes. and (b) Adding a source dies, and just leaves blank windows lying around forever. I suppose it might just be in suspended animation waiting for the CDROM drive, but leaving it that way overnight provides no progress. Experimentation and exploration is too tedious for words because of all the mount delays. Under the circumstance, the remainder of Mandrake is a little hard to install or configure! -- hendrik Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MDK 9.1 ProSuite/PowerPak release info
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 06:52:49AM -0600, Robert Wideman wrote: Just bear in mind, Rob, that the version of win4lin shipping a few months ago was still not able to support ntfs - I'm not sure about w2k on fat32. I don't know if there's a newer version, though. Your stating that Win4Lin didnt support NTFS within its VM? Rob I thought that the big difference between VMware and Win4Lin is that Win4Lin does not provide a virtual machine? Am I wrong? -- hendrik PS-The link for the ad on Win4Lin discount is at http://www.mandrakeclub.com/article.php?sid=441mode=nocomments Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] gnucash
Does anyone know which version og gnucash is going to ship with Mandrake 9.1? They recently produced a new so-called stable release. For all I know, it may be stable, but people compiling it from source are having troubles because, again, it seems to require very recent versions of a lot of other packages, I'd rather not go through the trials of compiling my own if Mandrake is going to come up with one soon! -- hendrik Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Getting old threads sent by mail
On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 09:36:52AM -0400, Adolfo Bello wrote: Yesterday, I had my mail server down for ~14 hours. Is there any way to get a thread sent to me by email? Is there any command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to get this done? TIA Actually, it might be nice to be able to access the archives by nntp. -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Tar tumbling?
On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 12:31:26PM +0100, Paul wrote: Greetings everyone, I seem to have a problem with my tar backups. When I check the backed up information, I see: -rw-r--r--1 paul paul 10240 Mar 8 12:00 backup1.tar.gz -rw-r--r--1 paul paul 10240 Mar 7 12:00 backup2.tar.gz Weird, since the backup1 file (made today) should be bigger than the one that rolled over to backup2 from yesterday; I installed OpenOffice 1.0.2. When listing the contents of the backup1 file (tar -tzf backup1.tar.gz), tar lists part of the file and then tells me gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file tar: Unexpected EOF in archive tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now I run Mandrake 8.2 with [EMAIL PROTECTED] paul]$ tar --version tar (GNU tar) 1.13.25 The command I use to make the backup-file is tar -czf backup1.tar.gz -X ~/div/dont_do ~/* where ~/div/dontdo contains the extensions of some files I do not want backed up. Am I hitting some kind of limit with tar files? Would be strange, at work we tar files that grow into the 1Gb size (running HP-UX though). Paul If you can't beat the limit, use the tar options for a multivolume archive. It took me a long time to figure out that in additionn to these options, you can specify the --file option multipe times to tell tar which multiple file manes to use for the pieces of the tarfile. And the multivolume option does *not* allow you to compress while tarring. Here's a command I use to back up a WIndows C partition: tar --one-file-system --multi-volume --tape-length=200 -c --file=/offsite/lovesong/win_c-1.tar --file=/offsite/lovesong/win_c-2.tar --file=/offsite/lovesong/win_c-3.tar --file=/offsite/lovesong/win_c-4.tar --file=/offsite/lovesong/win_c-5.tar /mnt/win_c -- hendrik -- If thou thinkest twice, before thou speakest once, thou wilt speak twice the better for it. -William Penn http://nlpagan.net - Linux by Mandrake - Sylpheed by Hiro Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] chmod and higher security level
It would be nice to have a clear description somewhere about the various security levels. It would be even nicer to have this information available during installation (perhaps in the printed manual) so that I could make a sensible choice at that time. -- hendrik On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 09:55:54AM -0500, K Montgomery wrote: Tell me about it! :) I just solved this exact problem myself yesterday. It's Mandrake's security program msec that's doing this to you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 10:09:22AM -0800, Myers, Dennis R NWO wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Diane Arsenault Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 11:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0 Hi Simon - My HDD is Primary master, I have a Cd-ROM drive set as Secondary master, and a CD-RW set as Secondary Slave. Both CD's are on Auto. Some systems will only boot from drives on the *first* IDE chain. -- hendrik Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - To Dennis and Jonathan
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 01:46:50PM -0500, et wrote: and a good chance to introduce you to a kwel feature in most linux shells. autocomplete. kwel? Don't you mean kewl? I know many people can't spell cool correctly, but please, at least spell kewl correctly. -- nitpicking hendrik Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!
On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 06:18:55PM -0500, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Saturday 01 March 2003 02:20 pm, Technoslick wrote: Isn't it true on the newer inkjets that you need to apply a software 'patch' to reset the chip, or fool it, into thinking that the refill is brand new? A friend who refills her own told me she had to do this to get her own refils to work. This was in Windows, BTW. T Hmm, hadn't ever heard that but I guess its possible. Of course, I don't use Windows on my main comp... A month or two ago I bought a refill for the cartridges on an Epson 777i. It came with a floppy disk of software to install in WIndows to reset the chip so the printer would accept the refilled cartridge. I returned the entir package because (1) Rebooting to WIndows every time the printer runs out of ink is not acceptable (2) Without a floppy drive on my computer, installation was a dubious prospect. -- hendrik -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: colonoscopy (was: Epson printer warning!)
On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 01:10:12PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 12:09, Todd Slater wrote: Not if you cut it with vodka. However, it will scare the hell out of your It's funny that you should mention him, I had an appointment with him this morning in preparation for a colonoscopy. I'll lay off the ink for a few days before the procedure. Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Careful Rich--a friend went in last week for a colonoscopy and shortly thereafter came down with a terrible fever and intestinal distress. He returned home Monday after emergency surgery to remove 12 inches of his perforated large intestine. It was nearly fatal. So, good luck with that! Thanks Todd. This Dr. did a colonoscopy on me 2 1/2 years ago and I know he's good, but I guess that sort of thing can happen anytime. Rich Maybe a pleasant tale will help! I had a colonoscpy. Before they started the procedure, they informed me of all the things that could go wrong. I asked what the odds were. They told me numbers, which I forget. I remember doing a bit of mental calulation, and realized that my odds of surviving the colonoscopy were better than my odds of surviving one day of commuting to work. Yes, accidents happen, but not often. Incidentally, they had the fibre optic camera inside me connected to a big monitor that I could see. It was kind of fun, like exploring a cave, but without the claustrophobic fear of a rockslide. I even got to see where my appendix started, from the inside! -- hendrik -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing RC2, never asked for CD2 or CD3
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 12:37:09AM +0100, Benjamin Pflugmann wrote: On Wed 2003-03-05 at 17:38:22 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During the installation of RC2, I am never prompted for CDs 2 or 3. Why is that?! Am I supposed to add the other two CDs with urpmi? No. You should be asked for CD2/CD3 during the package install (the part that takes most time :-). Did you sucessfully pass this step? If so, apparently you managed to only select programs that are on CD1.[1] HTH, Benjamin. I had the same problem with Mandrake 9.0. -- hendrik [1] Although it is unusual, it is not too hard to accomplish... the packages are distributed on the CDs in a way that makes CD2 and CD3 less needed (e.g. CD3 mainly contains translations). Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Backup to CD-R/RW
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 12:12:58AM -0600, Harv Nelson wrote: Hi Is there some sort of backup/restore utility that I can use to make backups using the CD-R on my machines? CD-R's cost about a dime each these days. That price makes that media much more attractive than investing in a big tape drive and tapes.. I've got 5 machines on my little network. Each has a 20 gig HD (or less). How about another machine with a couple 50 gig drives that would be used just for backing up the others? That would cost about as much as the tape drives and tapes. Another strategy you'd care to suggest? You can get a hard disk caddy that plugs into a drive bay in the PC. I put an extra HD in one, and back everything onto it. No need for an extra whole PC. Only I have to power teh machine down to put it it or take it out -- it's not hot-swappable. -- hendrik Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HD
On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 12:57:54PM +, John Richard Smith wrote: Gil Katz wrote: Hi i had one HD 10GB which i splitt to 3 partitions /, swap and /home after a while i bought a new HD 80GB and i moved /home to it, so now i have one big empty partition that i want to transfer its size to swap and to / should i delete the partition and then resize both / and swap or there is another or a better way? Gil Assuming that you have nothing left on the 10g hd that matters to you, just delete the partitions to wipe them out entirely and remake them as you want them and format and install accordingly. If you intend putting a /swap partition on this harddrive, then it's size ought to be 1 1/2 to 2 times physical memory. One thing that matters on your 10G drive in the / partition. You might want to copy it to your second drive and make sure you can actually boot boot from it there (use Lilo to set up a dual boot -- original linux or copy of linux) before you delete and resize / on your 10G drive. -- cautious hendrik Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Looking for good Mandrake SENDMAIL HOWTO
On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 12:32:31AM -0600, Robert Wideman wrote: Good. But it does mean I'm going to have to reconfigure. Reconfigureyour in Linux dude. I know that! I've been in Linux for years now, statrting sith Slackware; have drifted through Turbo, Redhat, SuSE, now Mandrake. I'd like to switch my internet gateway from SuSE to Mandrake, and have to configure the masquerading, domain-name server, and email before I can risk putting it on the net with Mandrake so that I don't lose incoming email. I just wish the route was shorter. You will have to configure most of anything you do. If your looking for an easy email server.there isnt one. I used to be happy with smail, until it started relaying other people's spam. -- hendrik. Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Looking for good Mandrake SENDMAIL HOWTO
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 10:45:43PM +, Derek Jennings wrote: On Thursday 13 Feb 2003 10:30 pm, T E wrote: Hi all, As you see, I am looking for a decent HOWTO for the Sendmail included with Mandrake 8.2. If possible, both a quick setup HOWTO and a detailed version would be greatly appreciated as I'm trying to get this going ASAP but would like to know more later... Thanks in advance!! Although Sendmail is included in 9.0 , Postfix is Mandrakes's preferred Mail server. (It is a drop in replacement for Sendmail) So unless you have a preference for Sendmail you might find Postfix convenient to install. How drop-in is it? Does it use the same configuration files? If it does, I imagine it can't be much of an improvement! -- hendrik Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] This fellow needs help. His mails are being rejected.
On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 02:59:42AM +0100, Benjamin Pflugmann wrote: Hi. From: Terry Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 08 Feb 2003 18:05:40 -0500 [...] Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.2.0 Remote-MTA: dns; linux-mandrake.com Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 450 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, [64.8.50.181] [...] On Sat 2003-02-08 at 19:58:04 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] When you send a message to sympa, the Mandrake list server, it tries to do a reverse lookup on the ip address of the smtp server sending the connection to match the smtp domain name against the domain name of the from address. I gather that this technique is to prevent a spam attack from happening. Looks like that is the problem. Yes, reverse lookups are common practice, not only by mail software. It's an easy and reasonable way to raise the bar for abuse. This kind of thing happens when the mailhost you are sending through is a virtual server, meaning there is one numeric ip address for many domains. Not completely correct. What you refer to is the fact that it can happen that the reverse lookup results in a different name than the domain provided originally, e.g. $ urpmi bind-utils $ host www.nic.de www.nic.de has address 194.246.96.76 but $ host 194.246.96.76 76.96.246.194.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer direct.denic.de. 76.96.246.194.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer intern.denic.de. 76.96.246.194.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer member.denic.de. 76.96.246.194.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer secure.denic.de. 76.96.246.194.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer project.denic.de. 76.96.246.194.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer transit.denic.de. 76.96.246.194.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer wwwtest.denic.de. 76.96.246.194.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer intern-old.denic.de. 76.96.246.194.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer www.denic.de. 76.96.246.194.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer jobs.denic.de. 76.96.246.194.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer test.denic.de. 76.96.246.194.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer board.denic.de. Although they made the effort to list all the reverse lookups, they missed www.nic.de in their list. So if the server makes a connection as www.nic.de (which they probably don't do), the other side would end up with a different name by the reverse lookup. Having a different name on reverse lookup does not block the mail. This message got through from topoi.pooq.com, and it looks up as follows: hendrik@topoi:/home2/hendrik/dv/lang/microcosm nslookup topoi.pooq.com Server: localhost Address: 127.0.0.1 Name:topoi.pooq.com Address: 216.138.195.194 hendrik@topoi:/home2/hendrik/dv/lang/microcosm nslookup 216.138.195.194 Server: localhost Address: 127.0.0.1 Name:H194.C195.tor.velocet.net Address: 216.138.195.194 hendrik@topoi:/home2/hendrik/dv/lang/microcosm nslookup H194.C195.tor.velocet.net Server: localhost Address: 127.0.0.1 Name:H194.C195.tor.velocet.net Address: 216.138.195.194 hendrik@topoi:/home2/hendrik/dv/lang/microcosm So although reverse lookip of the IP number gives a different name from topoi.pooq.com, when (if?) it looks up that different name it still gets the proper IP number. By the way, I'm told that one of the purposes of using the reverse name lookup is to catch stolen IP numbers, which apparently has been a big problem in some countries. -- hendrik But the cited error message (cannot find your hostname, [64.8.50.181]) indicates that the reverse lookup failed completely. You can easily check this yourself: $ host 64.8.50.181 Host 181.50.8.64.in-addr.arpa not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) If you look at me, I am currently online as pD9EB55B6.dip.t-dialin.net, which resolves fine: $ host pD9EB55B6.dip.t-dialin.net pD9EB55B6.dip.t-dialin.net has address 217.235.85.182 $ host 217.235.85.182 182.85.235.217.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer pD9EB55B6.dip.t-dialin.net. In this case, sympa cannot do the reverse lookup and quietly rejects the message. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 01:29:11PM -0400, Adolfo Bello wrote: On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 13:15, et wrote: mutt, elm, pine, (what happens if you type mail without the quotes?) I routinely use mutt from the CLI even though I have X installed and working. It works find, and even adapts if I resize my CLI window while mutt is running. -- hendrik No mail for adolfobello -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML e-mail client
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 09:04:20PM -0500, Todd Slater wrote: On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 05:35:43PM -0700, FemmeFatale wrote: I'm going to risk abolishment to M$hits camp here or excommunication from the Linux community by saying this... but what else is new? Russ I have to agree with you luvy. Most ppl love eye candy. I know I do. I use Evolution for now but I love Sylpheed too. For the avg person, HTML mail is wonderfully put together eye candy. People are visually inclined mostly. (Men moreso than women; women are more auditorially oriented). OTOH, there are still tons of ppl out there on very lowed comps with very simple email programs on those computers. For them, HTML email is a PITA just chokes their bandwidth/computers. Only one in the past year have I received email in HTML form that was not spam. -- hendrik. snip You must have some artistic/creative/designer-type friends, because all of the HTML mail eye candy I get is spam. And from all the spam, most is not eye candy but really poorly designed (I know from seeing the wife's spam in Mozilla). But I do get HTML mail from some friends, and it is just plain--they don't spend hours designing a mail template, or spend any time doing anything remotely interesting with the mail. In fact, most don't have any idea they're sending HTML mail because they use Outhouse or something and they just go with the default settings. For that reason, I think HTML is a waste. I mean, if you're going to waste the bandwidth, at least spend some time designing a nice stylesheet or something! And, no tables--if you can't design columns using a stylesheet, you shouldn't be allowed to send HTML mail! But it is indeed wonderful for spam. Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Correction to More on Alas and Alack'
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 06:35:00PM -0900, civileme wrote: On Thursday 30 January 2003 03:52 pm, Richard Babcock wrote: Of course I have to jump on this! I would rather have my warts for free than pay slick Willie for them! -snip- I know of an alleged witchcraft wart cure: the witch buys warts from you! -- hendrik Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dell Optiplex
On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 10:17:07AM +, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 28 Jan 2003 8:34 am, Vaessen, E.M.J. (Ed) wrote: Glad to hear that the Danish are at least a bit flexible. Didn't get the Dutch Dell that far: they told me that they simply don't have time to check the correct working of their machine other than by testing it with WindowsXP. And furthermore there seems to be a law that forbids selling of PC's without an OS on it. Wonder who made that law. Dell in the UK told me years ago that it was illegal to sell a box without windows on it. This was when I was buying a replacement box for my granddaughter. I stuck out, saying that it certainly was not, quoted my registration code, and insisted. What registration code would that be? --hendrik After several phone calls I got the box - with a totally unformatted disk. That was not the bad news they may have expected, since I always prefer to partition my disks anyway :) Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re:Printing
On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 02:35:37PM +, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 06 Jan 2003 1:58 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Graham Pohle wrote: I accidentally hit the wrong key and started a printing job that has 79 pages and I can not stop the printing job. I'm trying to find some reading material on it at the moment, but if anyone knows how to stop a printing job on Mandrake9.0 from the command line, please tell me, it driving me mad each time I boot up, the job starts up again. At the moment I have to keep my printer turned off, if I want to run linux. I really needs some help on this one. Graham Best way to kill a print job is lpq ( to show what printjob is running) then lprm (number) y/n y enter that zaps the printjob, but everything that has reached the printer's buffer memmory has to go through regardless, one reason not to have a particularly large buffer printer memory. unfortuneately none of th gui intefaces are much good at cancelling printjobs, at least that has been my experience) John Once you have cleared the print job, you can then turn off the printer to clear its memory, leave it off for a few moments, then turn it on again. Unfortunately, some printers are picky about re-initialising properly after this, so it's trial and error to see if it works for you. Anne I find after an lprm, I also have to simultaneously power down both the printer and the computer. Rebooting the computer isn't enough! -- hendrik Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Monitor setup
On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 10:40:41AM -0600, David Reynolds wrote: virtual screen - larger than my display. I was aiming for 1024x768, and apparently that is what I got...sort of. Alt-Ctrl +/- got me into a stable situation, and I had to resave the session a few times. How did you get alt-ctrl +/- working under Mandrake. It used to work great on my old Slackware system, but I haven't got it to work on Mandrake. Do I have to bypass the automatic configuration toold to get it? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: SV: SV: [newbie] OT - Star Trek Nemesis
On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 04:25:20PM +0100, Anders Lind wrote: LOL, the woman is not even good looking IMO, anyway those shallowness aside, I've been meaning to ask this for a while now. Lust what does LOL mean? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
U.S. politics in Linux? Was: Re: [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Which is better:KDE or Gnome?]
On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 03:27:07PM +1100, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sun, 2003-01-05 at 15:22, mike wrote: I've noticed there is a lot of Red and Yellow in Linux... ...and to think I moved to Australia to be away from US politics...I guess not... Not that the U.S. seems intent on building a world empire, I suspect everyone will have to deal with US politics. Even places as remote from technological civilization as Afghanistan! Afghanistan uset to be the proverbial end-of-the-earth when I was little. -- hendrik -- Sun Jan 5 15:25:00 EST 2003 3:25pm up 18:33, 6 users, load average: 0.73, 0.56, 0.56 kuhn media australia - kma.0catch.com - stephen kuhn - katherine kuhn - berkeley, nsw, au email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 5483808 - mobile: 0410-728-389 -PC/Mac/Linux/Consulting/eMarketing- * linux user: 267497 * rh 7.3+ * Darth Vader: I find your lack of faith disturbing. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mandrake 9.0 never asks for another CD during installation
Thanks. Now Iknow what to do. I gather that you do all this stuff as root on the running system, and not during the initial installation. On Sat, Dec 28, 2002 at 10:04:30PM -0800, Brandon Vanderberg wrote: Adding sources and disabling supermount are two different things. To disable supermount, it was something like 'supermount -i disable', then 'mount -a'. The main thing was adding the other sources. Now you have a choice. If you have a slow cd like I do, then you don't want to add the other cds. If you don't have much hard disk space, then you don't want to copy the cd's onto your disk. And if you don't have a fast Internet connection, then you don't wanna add the FTP source. Once you figure out which you'd like to do, follow the relevant procedure below. BTW, in my case, I've got a slow cd and limited hd space but a fast connection. I chose to add the ftp source. To add FTP sources, go to http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php#third it'll have you chose which mirror, version, and architecture you want, then present you with a command to type in. I found it very easy. Then go into software sources manager and remove the installation cd as one of the sources. To copy the CD to the hd, create a dir on a partition that has enough space for all 3 cds - something like /home/mandrake will work. Insert and mount your first cd and copy the contents to this directory. Somewhere in there will be a dir called RPMS. On the 2nd and 3rd cd are directories called RPM2, RPM3, etc. Copy these dirs over so that all the rpm dirs are in the same place. Now from the software sources manager, remove the installation cd as one of the sources, and then add a new source. I'd call it local or something like that and browse to find where the hdlist is in this new dir. So the new Mandrake/RPMS directory on hard disk sjould contains copies of the contents of RPM2, RPM3, etc, all merged together? Or should the Mandrake directory on hard disk contain new subdirectories RPM2, RPM3, etc? Also interesting that some of the things I couldn't find in my system after the the single-disk install (samba and emacs) are actually in packages on the first CD. This wants some investigation... Thank you. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finally, to just add the 2nd and 3rd cds, go into software sources manager and add removable media with each (in turn) inserted and mounted. If you edit the cd source that's already there, you'll see how to do the others. ~Brandon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hendrik Boom Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 5:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Hendrik Boom Subject: Re: [newbie] mandrake 9.0 never asks for another CD during installation On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 15:52:48 -0800 Spencer Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 18:22:49 -0500 Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 15:04:43 -0800 Spencer Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you will find that the problem is lack of memory. The bare minimum for ML9 is 64megs. In this case the reason is more apt to be lack of fd space. For a PowerPack install to request other than cd1 requires around 2 gigs or more. This is due to the pkgs being ordered on the cds in to include depends and as they need to be installed and the fact the the installation creates a /tmp to which many of the pkgs are copied prior to installation. This being why the fd space required for installation exceeds the space required for the actually used once the installation is complete. Charles I'm finding that even with more than adequate space, if you have a slow, low memory computer ( I have several g ), the installer doesn't want to put much more in than what is necessary. This is really obvious if you need to go to a text install. Spence Well, disk space is not a problem. I have 2 gig available in my Mandrake root partition, and can easily expand that to 10 gig if necessary. The 48 meg is probably the real restriction. And it's stupid, too. The machine has more than enough capacity for what I really want to do, and am doing on SuSE Linux now. Occasionally it slows doen, but not seriously, and I did want to get started with the new kernel, which is rumoured to be smaller and faster, and do a better and more flexible job of packet filtering. And even emacs did not appear during the install. There must be a way around this. Could it be that the installer really needs more than 48 meg to sort dependencies, and is incapable of using swap space? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go
Re: [newbie] mandrake 9.0 never asks for another CD during installation
On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 15:52:48 -0800 Spencer Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 18:22:49 -0500 Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 15:04:43 -0800 Spencer Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you will find that the problem is lack of memory. The bare minimum for ML9 is 64megs. In this case the reason is more apt to be lack of fd space. For a PowerPack install to request other than cd1 requires around 2 gigs or more. This is due to the pkgs being ordered on the cds in to include depends and as they need to be installed and the fact the the installation creates a /tmp to which many of the pkgs are copied prior to installation. This being why the fd space required for installation exceeds the space required for the actually used once the installation is complete. Charles I'm finding that even with more than adequate space, if you have a slow, low memory computer ( I have several g ), the installer doesn't want to put much more in than what is necessary. This is really obvious if you need to go to a text install. Spence Well, disk space is not a problem. I have 2 gig available in my Mandrake root partition, and can easily expand that to 10 gig if necessary. The 48 meg is probably the real restriction. And it's stupid, too. The machine has more than enough capacity for what I really want to do, and am doing on SuSE Linux now. Occasionally it slows doen, but not seriously, and I did want to get started with the new kernel, which is rumoured to be smaller and faster, and do a better and more flexible job of packet filtering. And even emacs did not appear during the install. There must be a way around this. Could it be that the installer really needs more than 48 meg to sort dependencies, and is incapable of using swap space? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake and Automated Backup
On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 12:19:59AM +0200, Robin Turner wrote: Rob Lindsay wrote: My home system is a PIII 733 with two 20GB Internal IDE hard drives. The office system is a G4 400 with internal and external 20GB drives. Also have a PI 200MMX networked with the PIII [Don't like getting rid of a perfectly good machine]. I use M$ Backup for the W2K system and Retrospect for the Mac. Retrospect is infinitely more user-friendly than M$ Backup. It all depends on what you want to back up, how and where. tar is fine if you just want to backup the files on your Linux box. smbtar is useful if you have networked Windows boxes to back up. In the office I use a simple script which uses smbtar to back up all the Windows My Documents to the Linux box, then tars /home to one of the Windows boxes (as is obvious here, we have no hard storage media). Put this into a cron job, and everything is backed up every day. It's a bit of work getting your scipt to work right, but then you just sit back. Sir Robin I used Linux tar to back up my entire Windows partition during a lengthy reinstallation of Windows ME after a disastrous virus attack -- my Linux partition was untouched. Reinstalling the Windows box took a while. There were several phases - get WIndows working, get the printer drivers working, install the scanner software. Ths installation kept crashing. If I hadn't had Linux to provide frequent backups of the partially installed systems, so I coult wipe c: and restore, I might never have gotten Windows installed and properly configured. Maybe there are system configuratins for which this doesn't work, but it worked for me! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Do unto others what you would like others to do unto you. And have fun doing it. - Linus Torvalds Robin Turner IDMYO, Bilkent University Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Dual Booting
On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 01:43:48AM +, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Thu, 26 Dec 2002 18:09:00 CST Steve Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grettings: Was wondering if anyone had a good site that explains dual booting Mandrake 9.0 and 8.2. I have 9.0 installed and want to dual boot 8.2 that is on a different drive. Basics: 9.0 on one drive, want to add another drive to same machine and load 8.2 on the new drive. Any links or help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Steve Steve, here's the short version : it's piece of cake. Just install Mandrake 8.2 upon your new drive. For what I know, the installation program will automatically detect the presence of another OS and - along the way - offer you the choice to boot one or the other as default. In your case - having two discs - it's not even necessary to re-partition anything. Eventually you can use the Mandrake Control Center (as root) to adjust things later on. Most problems with dual-booting stems from another scenario : installing a real OS alongside a bogus one. Enjoy ! - But why on earth do you want two real OS's ? HTH Kaj Haulrich Denmark -- Some PC's (people tell me only older ones) will only boot from the master or slave hard disks on the *first* IDE chain. If this applies to your machine, make sure both your drives are on the first chain. If so, /boot, /sbin and /etc (I think) must be in a patition on a bootable drive. Other things like /usr can, I believe, be anywhere. ANybody know about /dev? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] == Powered by Linux - Mandrake 9.0 Registered Linux user #214073 at http://counter.li.org This is a 100 % Microsoft-free computer. == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mandrake 9.0 never asks for another CD during installation
On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 12:58:38PM -0800, Brandon Vanderberg wrote: How strange, last night I did the same thing with an old pc. The pc is a very old Pentium 100 or 200 w/ 48meg of ram and a 6 gig disk. I didn't know about the 64meg requirement, but xfree86 (ver 4) and KDE came up and loaded fine with 48. It wasn't a speed demon, but it worked well. This was with the regular 3 CD set and regular (not text) install. It only used the 1st cd for me too, but I disabled supermount, and added the 2 other cds to the source list and it worked well. I didn't see this as anything more than a very minor annoyance. Incidently, the cd-rom drive is an old 4 speed, so since then I've changed the urpmi sources to one of the ftp mirrors. But I've loaded stuff from the 2nd and 3rd cd without issue. That sounds like what I need. Just how do you disable supermount and add other cds to the source list. Is this something you do before installation? Or during? Or after? With a previous version onf Mandrake (I forget which) is asked me during install which CD's I had. With 9.0 it never asks. I hope there is another way to add to the source list than to answer this question! Or if I try a hard-disk install and start by putting the contents of the all the CD's on hard disk, do I put each in a separate directory? Or should I merge them all into one directory? by, say tarring each CD into a tarfile and then untarring them all into the same directory? That way there would be no separate CD to think of mounting. ~Brandon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hendrik Boom Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 5:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Hendrik Boom Subject: Re: [newbie] mandrake 9.0 never asks for another CD during installation On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 15:52:48 -0800 Spencer Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 18:22:49 -0500 Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 15:04:43 -0800 Spencer Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you will find that the problem is lack of memory. The bare minimum for ML9 is 64megs. In this case the reason is more apt to be lack of fd space. For a PowerPack install to request other than cd1 requires around 2 gigs or more. This is due to the pkgs being ordered on the cds in to include depends and as they need to be installed and the fact the the installation creates a /tmp to which many of the pkgs are copied prior to installation. This being why the fd space required for installation exceeds the space required for the actually used once the installation is complete. Charles I'm finding that even with more than adequate space, if you have a slow, low memory computer ( I have several g ), the installer doesn't want to put much more in than what is necessary. This is really obvious if you need to go to a text install. Spence Well, disk space is not a problem. I have 2 gig available in my Mandrake root partition, and can easily expand that to 10 gig if necessary. The 48 meg is probably the real restriction. And it's stupid, too. The machine has more than enough capacity for what I really want to do, and am doing on SuSE Linux now. Occasionally it slows doen, but not seriously, and I did want to get started with the new kernel, which is rumoured to be smaller and faster, and do a better and more flexible job of packet filtering. And even emacs did not appear during the install. There must be a way around this. Could it be that the installer really needs more than 48 meg to sort dependencies, and is incapable of using swap space? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] When is root not root?
On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 01:56:40PM +, Anne Wilson wrote: Although I practically never log in as root, there are many things that require root priveleges, so opening File Manager (Super User Mode) or a root console is a common task. Why is this not as dangerous? Should we be closing those sessions as soon as possible? What safeguards are there? Anne I have been told: An X server (i.e., the process that drives your screen when you are using X) can be instructed by a program (the X client) to paste stuff into any window on the screen (assuming no security measure has been taken to prevent this. Doe anyone know of such?) It that window contains, say, an xterm operating with root permission, then the X client somewhere can search the server (i.e., your screen) for root xterms, and quickly paste in commands to be run as root. Result? a security problem. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
