Tape backup policies

2011-06-03 Thread David Mazzaccaro
Hello everyone.
For those who are still backing up to tape...

What do you guys have for tape backup policies?
I'm curious as to how far back you are keeping tapes - 1 year? 5 years?

I've typically seen a 10 tape rotation w/ a monthly tape put in offsite
storage.
Is this still common practice?

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RE: Tape backup policies

2011-06-03 Thread N Parr
That's really a question for your management.  Your business type and
other laws/guidelines will tell you how long you need to keep your data,
the media it's put on is irrelevant.  When we were still backing up to
tape we did a daily full backup 4 week rotation with a month end and
then kept the year end forever.



From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 8:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Tape backup policies



Hello everyone.

For those who are still backing up to tape...

What do you guys have for tape backup policies?

I'm curious as to how far back you are keeping tapes - 1 year? 5 years?

I've typically seen a 10 tape rotation w/ a monthly tape put in offsite
storage.

Is this still common practice?


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RE: Tape backup policies

2011-06-03 Thread Terry Dickson
OK I am over cautious, and we have a small data store in comparison to many on 
the list.  I am just in the process of converting old backup tapes.  Our normal 
backup procedure is Monthly tapes, one for each month, for our offsite backup.  
Onsite we use smaller tapes and do a weekly backup.  Again these tapes are kept 
for 12 months and 52 weeks respectively.  However we also do a Fiscal Year 
Backup and a Calendar Year Backup.  These tapes are kept as long as possible.  
I started with DDS Tapes and progressed through DDS3 tapes, we then switched to 
VXA tapes.  I took all the DDS tapes I could read, wrote them back to disk then 
back to VXA Tapes.  We are in the process of switching to LTO for our platform, 
so I have just read in all the VXA tapes from Year End and FY End backups, 
wrote them back to disk.  I will shortly spin them off to LTO tapes.  However 
in about 6 months I will have to pull them back off this tape and write it 
again as we are again changing backup software.  I have gone through 4 
different backup programs over the life of this project and many tapes.  I do 
have backups of Year end and Fiscal Year end back to 1995.  There are a couple 
of incomplete backups in there as the old DDS tapes just couldn't be read.



And yes I have been asked to pull data off the old backups and look at it.  We 
had an error a few years ago that needed to be researched as to when it started 
and whose fault it was.  Being a Govt agency we had to research it and pull any 
information we could.  We were able to pull all needed data from our backups 
and prove error was not ours, even though we were blamed.  The other agency 
giving us the data could only go back 12-24 months to supply data.  But again I 
am lucky that we have a small data store so far.


From: David Mazzaccaro [david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 8:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Tape backup policies


Hello everyone.

For those who are still backing up to tape…

What do you guys have for tape backup policies?

I’m curious as to how far back you are keeping tapes – 1 year? 5 years?

I’ve typically seen a 10 tape rotation w/ a monthly tape put in offsite storage.

Is this still common practice?

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RE: Tape backup policies

2011-06-03 Thread Guyer, Don
.as well as what's being backed up. It might be a SQL DB that the
business unit wants backed up twice daily for faster recovery purposes.
Most places I've worked at did the 2-week rotation, with a perm monthly
tape like you mentioned.

 

A lot of factors to take into consideration, involving other BUs and
mgmt.

 

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From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 9:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Tape backup policies

 

That's really a question for your management.  Your business type and
other laws/guidelines will tell you how long you need to keep your data,
the media it's put on is irrelevant.  When we were still backing up to
tape we did a daily full backup 4 week rotation with a month end and
then kept the year end forever.

 



From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 8:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Tape backup policies

Hello everyone.

For those who are still backing up to tape...

What do you guys have for tape backup policies?

I'm curious as to how far back you are keeping tapes - 1 year? 5 years?

I've typically seen a 10 tape rotation w/ a monthly tape put in offsite
storage.

Is this still common practice?


.

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Re: Tape backup policies

2011-06-03 Thread Mike Leone
On 6/3/2011 9:12 AM, David Mazzaccaro wrote:
 Hello everyone.
 
 For those who are still backing up to tape…

still :-) I think that tape is still - by far - the majority of backup
targets ...

 What do you guyshavefor tape backuppolicies?
 
 I’m curious as to how far back you are keeping tapes–1 year? 5 years?

I know we literally have tapes stored offsite from the mid 90s ...
otherwise, I know we've never erased a month end or other such archived
tape.

 I’ve typically seen a 10 tape rotation w/ a monthly tapeput
 inoffsitestorage.

We did a 2 month rotation, and every EOM tape stored offsite.

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Nice utility for those using ESX VM's

2011-06-03 Thread Ziots, Edward
Check out RVTools utility at the following site. 
http://www.robware.net/

Z

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Security Engineer
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Re: Nice utility for those using ESX VM's

2011-06-03 Thread James Rankin
Seen that a while back. Nice overview of whether servers have CD drives
mounted, snapshots enabled, etc.

On 3 June 2011 14:51, Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org wrote:

 Check out RVTools utility at the following site.
 http://www.robware.net/

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RE: Tape backup policies

2011-06-03 Thread Orland, Kathleen
I have 12 weekly tapes (9 daily tapes, 3 full backup tapes). That gives me 2
weeks of daily backups and 3 full backups on weekends, then a month end tape
is used so I have plenty to fall back on in the event of data loss or
corruption (or in our case, server hardware failure which has occurred
once).  

I transport them myself in a Turtle Case. 

I have 72 month end tapes, kept in Turtle Cases. 72 months = 5 years. 

Off site storage is my kitchen. 

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] 
Sent: 03 June 2011 09:12
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Tape backup policies

 

Hello everyone.

For those who are still backing up to tape.

What do you guys have for tape backup policies?

I'm curious as to how far back you are keeping tapes - 1 year? 5 years?

I've typically seen a 10 tape rotation w/ a monthly tape put in offsite
storage.

Is this still common practice?


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Re: Tape backup policies

2011-06-03 Thread RichardMcClary
Here is something I don't recall being discussed...

LTO1 may be read by an LTO3 drive.  Our LTO3 tapes supposedly can be read 
by our new LTO5 drive...

What I'm getting at is, keeping forever may require moth-balling 
machines so they can be read if necessary
--
richard

David Mazzaccaro david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com wrote on 
06/03/2011 08:12:08 AM:

 Hello everyone.
 For those who are still backing up to tape?
 What do you guys have for tape backup policies?
 I?m curious as to how far back you are keeping tapes ? 1 year? 5 years?
 I?ve typically seen a 10 tape rotation w/ a monthly tape put in 
 offsite storage.
 Is this still common practice?
 
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Hide windows libraries

2011-06-03 Thread Tom Miller
Folks,
 
What are you doing to hide the Windows Libraries feature from your users?  We 
are moving to Win 7 and for now plan to keep it hidden.
 
I know I can disable this via a registry key, but it won't apply via GPO/script 
since you have to manually change the key's permissions first.  Or is there a 
way to change perms via a GPO?
 
Key I am using is:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
 
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{031E4825-7B94-4dc3-B131-E946B44C8DD5}\ShellFolder]
QueryForOverlay=
HideOnDesktopPerUser=
PinToNameSpaceTree=
Attributes=dword:b080010d
 
Suggestions appreciated.
 
Tom

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RE: Tape backup policies

2011-06-03 Thread Terry Dickson
Exactly problem we faced, our solution was to read tapes on old drive and write 
again on new drive.  However if you have multiple drives and the right type of 
software you can archive directly from one tape to another.

-Original Message-
From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 8:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Tape backup policies


Here is something I don't recall being discussed...

LTO1 may be read by an LTO3 drive.  Our LTO3 tapes supposedly can be read by 
our new LTO5 drive...

What I'm getting at is, keeping forever may require moth-balling machines so 
they can be read if necessary
--
richard

David Mazzaccaro david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com wrote on 06/03/2011 
08:12:08 AM:

 Hello everyone.
 For those who are still backing up to tape... What do you guys have for
 tape backup policies?
 I'm curious as to how far back you are keeping tapes - 1 year? 5 years?
 I've typically seen a 10 tape rotation w/ a monthly tape put in
 offsite storage.
 Is this still common practice?

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Re: Hide windows libraries

2011-06-03 Thread James Rankin
I used these

Hive HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT Key path
CLSID\{323CA680-C24D-4099-B94D-446DD2D7249E}\ShellFolder Value name
Attributes Value type REG_DWORD Value data 0xA9400100 (2839544064)
Hive HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT Key path
CLSID\{031E4825-7B94-4dc3-B131-E946B44C8DD5}\ShellFolder Value name
Attributes Value type REG_DWORD Value data 0xB090010D (2962227469)
They were set via GPO in Preferences | Windows Settings | Registry

I also used a custom base profile to set the
AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Libraries folder so that there were only
specific locations allowed in each user's Documents Library and Pictures
Library

On 3 June 2011 15:12, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote:

  Folks,

 What are you doing to hide the Windows Libraries feature from your users?
 We are moving to Win 7 and for now plan to keep it hidden.

 I know I can disable this via a registry key, but it won't apply via
 GPO/script since you have to manually change the key's permissions first.
 Or is there a way to change perms via a GPO?

 Key I am using is:
 Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00


 [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{031E4825-7B94-4dc3-B131-E946B44C8DD5}\ShellFolder]
 QueryForOverlay=
 HideOnDesktopPerUser=
 PinToNameSpaceTree=
 Attributes=dword:b080010d

 Suggestions appreciated.

 Tom

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Re: Tape backup policies

2011-06-03 Thread Andrew S. Baker
+1

In addition to this excellent point, it should be noted that an excessively
long retention period could be as bad as having too short of a retention
period, as it opens you up to greater electronic discovery in the event of
legal action.

Choose wisely, and work with senior management and legal counsel to develop
the right data management policies.

Barring conflicts with regulatory requirements, I typically try to work
towards the following:

-- Daily Backups maintained for up to 15 days
-- Weekly Backups maintained for up to 5 weeks
-- Monthly backups for up to 12-24 months
-- Annual backups for up to 2 or 3 years (optional if maintaining 24 monthly
backups)

Some systems might have more stringent retention, for example a key database
system maintaining 30 daily and 52 weekly backups.

Whatever the configuration, it should be documented.



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On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 9:22 AM, N Parr npar...@mortonind.com wrote:

  That's really a question for your management.  Your business type and
 other laws/guidelines will tell you how long you need to keep your data, the
 media it's put on is irrelevant.  When we were still backing up to tape we
 did a daily full backup 4 week rotation with a month end and then kept the
 year end forever.

  --
 *From:* David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 03, 2011 8:12 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Tape backup policies

  Hello everyone.

 For those who are still backing up to tape…

 What do you guys have for tape backup policies?

 I’m curious as to how far back you are keeping tapes – 1 year? 5 years?

 I’ve typically seen a 10 tape rotation w/ a monthly tape put in 
 offsitestorage.

 Is this still common practice?



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Re: Hide windows libraries

2011-06-03 Thread James Rankin
For setting reg perms I used subinacl with the /subkeyreg switch

Example below, which sets perms so that users can't rename My Computer or
Recycle Bin

subinacl /subkeyreg
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\CLSID
/grant=%userdomain%\%username%=R

On 3 June 2011 15:12, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote:

  Folks,

 What are you doing to hide the Windows Libraries feature from your users?
 We are moving to Win 7 and for now plan to keep it hidden.

 I know I can disable this via a registry key, but it won't apply via
 GPO/script since you have to manually change the key's permissions first.
 Or is there a way to change perms via a GPO?

 Key I am using is:
 Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00


 [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{031E4825-7B94-4dc3-B131-E946B44C8DD5}\ShellFolder]
 QueryForOverlay=
 HideOnDesktopPerUser=
 PinToNameSpaceTree=
 Attributes=dword:b080010d

 Suggestions appreciated.

 Tom

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RE: Tape backup policies

2011-06-03 Thread John Aldrich
Does anyone know of a service to convert tape formats (i.e. LTO1 to
LTO5)??? Or perhaps convert the data to some other media, such as
DVD/Blueray/etc???



From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 9:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Tape backup policies


Here is something I don't recall being discussed... 

LTO1 may be read by an LTO3 drive.  Our LTO3 tapes supposedly can be read by
our new LTO5 drive... 

What I'm getting at is, keeping forever may require moth-balling machines
so they can be read if necessary 
-- 
richard 

David Mazzaccaro david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com wrote on 06/03/2011
08:12:08 AM:

 Hello everyone. 
 For those who are still backing up to tape… 
 What do you guys have for tape backup policies? 
 I’m curious as to how far back you are keeping tapes – 1 year? 5 years? 
 I’ve typically seen a 10 tape rotation w/ a monthly tape put in 
 offsite storage. 
 Is this still common practice? 
 
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RE: Hide windows libraries

2011-06-03 Thread Guyer, Don
It should be possible with W2k8 based GPO.

Don Guyer

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RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2

Enterprise Technology Group

Fiserv

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Fax: 610-233-0404

www.fiserv.com http://www.fiserv.com/ 

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Hide windows libraries

 

Folks,

 

What are you doing to hide the Windows Libraries feature from your
users?  We are moving to Win 7 and for now plan to keep it hidden.

 

I know I can disable this via a registry key, but it won't apply via
GPO/script since you have to manually change the key's permissions
first.  Or is there a way to change perms via a GPO?

 

Key I am using is:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

 

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{031E4825-7B94-4dc3-B131-E946B44C8DD5}\ShellFol
der]
QueryForOverlay=
HideOnDesktopPerUser=
PinToNameSpaceTree=
Attributes=dword:b080010d

 

Suggestions appreciated.

 

Tom

 

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Re: Hide windows libraries

2011-06-03 Thread James Rankin
Actually I forgot, you can set registry permissions in Computer Config |
Policies | Windows Settings | Security Settings | Registry, IIRC


On 3 June 2011 15:25, Guyer, Don don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote:

 It should be possible with W2k8 based GPO.

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 RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2

 Enterprise Technology Group

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 Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

 Fax: 610-233-0404

 www.fiserv.com



 *From:* Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 03, 2011 10:12 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Hide windows libraries



 Folks,



 What are you doing to hide the Windows Libraries feature from your users?
 We are moving to Win 7 and for now plan to keep it hidden.



 I know I can disable this via a registry key, but it won't apply via
 GPO/script since you have to manually change the key's permissions first.
 Or is there a way to change perms via a GPO?



 Key I am using is:

 Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00




 [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{031E4825-7B94-4dc3-B131-E946B44C8DD5}\ShellFolder]
 QueryForOverlay=
 HideOnDesktopPerUser=
 PinToNameSpaceTree=
 Attributes=dword:b080010d



 Suggestions appreciated.



 Tom



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Re: Tape backup policies

2011-06-03 Thread Steve Ens
There are places that do that, just bing.  I would think that DVD/BR
wouldn't be the answer considering you can get 4TB on a hard drive these
days.  You can fit a ton of LTO1 tapes on one of those...

On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 9:19 AM, John Aldrich
jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.comwrote:

 Does anyone know of a service to convert tape formats (i.e. LTO1 to
 LTO5)??? Or perhaps convert the data to some other media, such as
 DVD/Blueray/etc???



 From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
 Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 9:54 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Tape backup policies


 Here is something I don't recall being discussed...

 LTO1 may be read by an LTO3 drive.  Our LTO3 tapes supposedly can be read
 by
 our new LTO5 drive...

 What I'm getting at is, keeping forever may require moth-balling machines
 so they can be read if necessary
 --
 richard

 David Mazzaccaro david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com wrote on
 06/03/2011
 08:12:08 AM:

  Hello everyone.
  For those who are still backing up to tape…
  What do you guys have for tape backup policies?
  I’m curious as to how far back you are keeping tapes – 1 year? 5 years?
  I’ve typically seen a 10 tape rotation w/ a monthly tape put in
  offsite storage.
  Is this still common practice?
 
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Fake antivirus

2011-06-03 Thread John Aldrich
I'm going to go to a former co-worker's this afternoon to clean his system
(again) from another fake antivirus infestation. I've already got Vipre
Rescue and Malware Bytes on a memory stick. I've also got RKILL. I haven't
had to deal with any fake antivirus in a few weeks. Just wondering if they
have developed any new tricks recently that I should be aware of?

Oh, this user had Vipre Home on his PC, and got infested anyway. Should I
submit samples to Sunbelt (assuming I can find where they're quarantined)???

Thanks!





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Re: Tape backup policies

2011-06-03 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Google is your friend...



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 *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market...

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On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 10:19 AM, John Aldrich
jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.comwrote:

 Does anyone know of a service to convert tape formats (i.e. LTO1 to
 LTO5)??? Or perhaps convert the data to some other media, such as
 DVD/Blueray/etc???



 From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
 Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 9:54 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Tape backup policies


 Here is something I don't recall being discussed...

 LTO1 may be read by an LTO3 drive.  Our LTO3 tapes supposedly can be read
 by
 our new LTO5 drive...

 What I'm getting at is, keeping forever may require moth-balling machines
 so they can be read if necessary
 --
 richard

 David Mazzaccaro david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com wrote on
 06/03/2011
 08:12:08 AM:

  Hello everyone.
  For those who are still backing up to tape…
  What do you guys have for tape backup policies?
  I’m curious as to how far back you are keeping tapes – 1 year? 5 years?
  I’ve typically seen a 10 tape rotation w/ a monthly tape put in
  offsite storage.
  Is this still common practice?
 


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RE: Hide windows libraries

2011-06-03 Thread Guyer, Don
If it's a Computer GPO, is it even necessary to modify perms?

 

When I Googled real quick, I didn't see any info regarding having to
change perms.

 

Just curious, cuz I may have to do this in the future.

 

J

 

Don Guyer

Windows Systems Engineer

RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2

Enterprise Technology Group

Fiserv

don.gu...@fiserv.com

Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

Fax: 610-233-0404

www.fiserv.com http://www.fiserv.com/ 

 

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hide windows libraries

 

Actually I forgot, you can set registry permissions in Computer Config |
Policies | Windows Settings | Security Settings | Registry, IIRC



On 3 June 2011 15:25, Guyer, Don don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote:

It should be possible with W2k8 based GPO.

Don Guyer

Windows Systems Engineer

RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2

Enterprise Technology Group

Fiserv

don.gu...@fiserv.com

Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

Fax: 610-233-0404

www.fiserv.com http://www.fiserv.com/ 

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Hide windows libraries

 

Folks,

 

What are you doing to hide the Windows Libraries feature from your
users?  We are moving to Win 7 and for now plan to keep it hidden.

 

I know I can disable this via a registry key, but it won't apply via
GPO/script since you have to manually change the key's permissions
first.  Or is there a way to change perms via a GPO?

 

Key I am using is:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

 

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{031E4825-7B94-4dc3-B131-E946B44C8DD5}\ShellFol
der]
QueryForOverlay=
HideOnDesktopPerUser=
PinToNameSpaceTree=
Attributes=dword:b080010d

 

Suggestions appreciated.

 

Tom

 

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be given a large bowie knife and a supply of methamphetamines while I
watch the said deathmatch and wager vast sums of money on who will be
the winner. If the fight becomes boring or there is a stalemate, I will
release rabid dogs and my two-stone cat into the arena to liven things
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RE: Tape backup policies

2011-06-03 Thread John Aldrich
Yeah... it was just a thought that came up when I read the original
question. :D Not that I have a need for anything like that these days... our
only tape drive is on the AS/400 and it's an LTO1. :D



From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Tape backup policies

There are places that do that, just bing.  I would think that DVD/BR
wouldn't be the answer considering you can get 4TB on a hard drive these
days.  You can fit a ton of LTO1 tapes on one of those...
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 9:19 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com
wrote:
Does anyone know of a service to convert tape formats (i.e. LTO1 to
LTO5)??? Or perhaps convert the data to some other media, such as
DVD/Blueray/etc???



From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 9:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Tape backup policies


Here is something I don't recall being discussed...

LTO1 may be read by an LTO3 drive.  Our LTO3 tapes supposedly can be read by
our new LTO5 drive...

What I'm getting at is, keeping forever may require moth-balling machines
so they can be read if necessary
--
richard

David Mazzaccaro david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com wrote on 06/03/2011
08:12:08 AM:
 Hello everyone.
 For those who are still backing up to tape…
 What do you guys have for tape backup policies?
 I’m curious as to how far back you are keeping tapes – 1 year? 5 years?
 I’ve typically seen a 10 tape rotation w/ a monthly tape put in
 offsite storage.
 Is this still common practice?

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Re: Fake antivirus

2011-06-03 Thread James Rankin
May be time to invest in some UAT (user awareness training). Continual
re-infestation either means he is unlucky, or gung-ho in his browsing.

I've had some fake AVs recently which were ridiculously easy to get rid of
(kill process, delete files, remove autorun entry). Others have been more
stealthy - such as killing targeted windows like Task Manager. Booting into
safe mode usually prevents these extra features from bothering you.

But as with everything - a reimage may be the only way to be sure.

On 3 June 2011 15:26, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote:

 I'm going to go to a former co-worker's this afternoon to clean his system
 (again) from another fake antivirus infestation. I've already got Vipre
 Rescue and Malware Bytes on a memory stick. I've also got RKILL. I haven't
 had to deal with any fake antivirus in a few weeks. Just wondering if they
 have developed any new tricks recently that I should be aware of?

 Oh, this user had Vipre Home on his PC, and got infested anyway. Should I
 submit samples to Sunbelt (assuming I can find where they're
 quarantined)???

 Thanks!





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the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
a question.

*IMPORTANT: The information in this email is CONFIDENTIAL. If its contents
are disclosed in any way my lawyers will swoop down from black helicopters
like Seal Team Six and drag you away with a black bag over your head. They
will then take you to a secret prison and make you fight to the death with
other people who dared to share this email. You will be given a large bowie
knife and a supply of methamphetamines while I watch the said deathmatch and
wager vast sums of money on who will be the winner. If the fight becomes
boring or there is a stalemate, I will release rabid dogs and my two-stone
cat into the arena to liven things up a bit. If these animals become in any
way docile, I will squirt them with water pistols until they become a bit
more temperamental.*

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Re: Hide windows libraries

2011-06-03 Thread James Rankin
I didn't have to do it on mine, I admit.

On 3 June 2011 15:30, Guyer, Don don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote:

 If it’s a Computer GPO, is it even necessary to modify perms?



 When I Googled real quick, I didn’t see any info regarding having to change
 perms.



 Just curious, cuz I may have to do this in the future.



 J



 *Don Guyer*

 Windows Systems Engineer

 RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2

 Enterprise Technology Group

 *Fiserv*

 don.gu...@fiserv.com

 Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

 Fax: 610-233-0404

 www.fiserv.com



 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 03, 2011 10:24 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Hide windows libraries



 Actually I forgot, you can set registry permissions in Computer Config |
 Policies | Windows Settings | Security Settings | Registry, IIRC

 On 3 June 2011 15:25, Guyer, Don don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote:

 It should be possible with W2k8 based GPO.

 *Don Guyer*

 Windows Systems Engineer

 RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2

 Enterprise Technology Group

 *Fiserv*

 don.gu...@fiserv.com

 Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

 Fax: 610-233-0404

 www.fiserv.com



 *From:* Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 03, 2011 10:12 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Hide windows libraries



 Folks,



 What are you doing to hide the Windows Libraries feature from your users?
 We are moving to Win 7 and for now plan to keep it hidden.



 I know I can disable this via a registry key, but it won't apply via
 GPO/script since you have to manually change the key's permissions first.
 Or is there a way to change perms via a GPO?



 Key I am using is:

 Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00




 [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{031E4825-7B94-4dc3-B131-E946B44C8DD5}\ShellFolder]
 QueryForOverlay=
 HideOnDesktopPerUser=
 PinToNameSpaceTree=
 Attributes=dword:b080010d



 Suggestions appreciated.



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RE: Fake antivirus

2011-06-03 Thread John Aldrich
Thanks... This particular user is unlucky enough to have teenagers who use
his computer. My guess is they are visiting infected/hostile/0wned sites and
that's how he's getting infected. Never really had a problem when he was
working here, so I'm suspecting it's some of his grandkids that are causing
the problem. 

As I have not yet seen the problem, I don't know if it's going to be easy or
difficult. Hopefully MBAM and Vipre won't have any problem with it. :D

Thanks again!



From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Fake antivirus

May be time to invest in some UAT (user awareness training). Continual
re-infestation either means he is unlucky, or gung-ho in his browsing.

I've had some fake AVs recently which were ridiculously easy to get rid of
(kill process, delete files, remove autorun entry). Others have been more
stealthy - such as killing targeted windows like Task Manager. Booting into
safe mode usually prevents these extra features from bothering you.

But as with everything - a reimage may be the only way to be sure.
On 3 June 2011 15:26, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote:
I'm going to go to a former co-worker's this afternoon to clean his system
(again) from another fake antivirus infestation. I've already got Vipre
Rescue and Malware Bytes on a memory stick. I've also got RKILL. I haven't
had to deal with any fake antivirus in a few weeks. Just wondering if they
have developed any new tricks recently that I should be aware of?

Oh, this user had Vipre Home on his PC, and got infested anyway. Should I
submit samples to Sunbelt (assuming I can find where they're quarantined)???

Thanks!





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wager vast sums of money on who will be the winner. If the fight becomes
boring or there is a stalemate, I will release rabid dogs and my two-stone
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RE: Fake antivirus

2011-06-03 Thread Ziots, Edward
John, 

A lot of this Fake AV is also coming from legitmate but hacked
websites, and drive-by malware. There has been more and more sites hit
with Web application attacks, which are imbedding malicious Iframe, and
other goodies which are making links going to their malware sites and
not the link they thought they was going too.

Been seeing Fake-AV popping up as well, along with Target Phishing
attacks, and the big fun of seeing the Military and Govt Entities being
phished by the Chinese ( or so the US Govt says) just underlies how
sensitive and secret information and communications are being sent over
public email, which is pretty silly IMHO...
Z 

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Security Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505


-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Fake antivirus

I'm going to go to a former co-worker's this afternoon to clean his
system
(again) from another fake antivirus infestation. I've already got Vipre
Rescue and Malware Bytes on a memory stick. I've also got RKILL. I
haven't
had to deal with any fake antivirus in a few weeks. Just wondering if
they
have developed any new tricks recently that I should be aware of?

Oh, this user had Vipre Home on his PC, and got infested anyway. Should
I
submit samples to Sunbelt (assuming I can find where they're
quarantined)???

Thanks!





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RE: Hide windows libraries

2011-06-03 Thread John Cook
I found a blog (don't remember where at the moment) that had 2 simple scripts 
that would either disable or reenable Libraries. Simple double click and it was 
done.

 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hide windows libraries

I didn't have to do it on mine, I admit.
On 3 June 2011 15:30, Guyer, Don 
don.gu...@fiserv.commailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote:
If it's a Computer GPO, is it even necessary to modify perms?

When I Googled real quick, I didn't see any info regarding having to change 
perms.

Just curious, cuz I may have to do this in the future.

:)

Don Guyer
Windows Systems Engineer
RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2
Enterprise Technology Group
Fiserv
don.gu...@fiserv.commailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com
Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
Fax: 610-233-0404
www.fiserv.comhttp://www.fiserv.com/

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:24 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hide windows libraries

Actually I forgot, you can set registry permissions in Computer Config | 
Policies | Windows Settings | Security Settings | Registry, IIRC
On 3 June 2011 15:25, Guyer, Don 
don.gu...@fiserv.commailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote:
It should be possible with W2k8 based GPO.
Don Guyer
Windows Systems Engineer
RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2
Enterprise Technology Group
Fiserv
don.gu...@fiserv.commailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com
Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
Fax: 610-233-0404
www.fiserv.comhttp://www.fiserv.com/

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.orgmailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Hide windows libraries

Folks,

What are you doing to hide the Windows Libraries feature from your users?  We 
are moving to Win 7 and for now plan to keep it hidden.

I know I can disable this via a registry key, but it won't apply via GPO/script 
since you have to manually change the key's permissions first.  Or is there a 
way to change perms via a GPO?

Key I am using is:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{031E4825-7B94-4dc3-B131-E946B44C8DD5}\ShellFolder]
QueryForOverlay=
HideOnDesktopPerUser=
PinToNameSpaceTree=
Attributes=dword:b080010d

Suggestions appreciated.

Tom


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Seal Team Six and drag you away with a black bag over your head. They will then 
take you to a secret prison and make you fight to the death with other people 
who dared to share this email. You will be given a large bowie knife and a 
supply of methamphetamines while I watch the said deathmatch and wager vast 
sums of money on who will be the winner. If the fight becomes boring or there 
is a stalemate, I will release rabid dogs and my two-stone cat into the arena 
to liven things up a bit. If these animals become in any way docile, I will 
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RE: Fake antivirus

2011-06-03 Thread John Cook
We've noticed a rash of these redirects specifically when doing a Google Image 
search.

 John W. Cook
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Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4


-Original Message-
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

John,

A lot of this Fake AV is also coming from legitmate but hacked
websites, and drive-by malware. There has been more and more sites hit
with Web application attacks, which are imbedding malicious Iframe, and
other goodies which are making links going to their malware sites and
not the link they thought they was going too.

Been seeing Fake-AV popping up as well, along with Target Phishing
attacks, and the big fun of seeing the Military and Govt Entities being
phished by the Chinese ( or so the US Govt says) just underlies how
sensitive and secret information and communications are being sent over
public email, which is pretty silly IMHO...
Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Security Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505


-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Fake antivirus

I'm going to go to a former co-worker's this afternoon to clean his
system
(again) from another fake antivirus infestation. I've already got Vipre
Rescue and Malware Bytes on a memory stick. I've also got RKILL. I
haven't
had to deal with any fake antivirus in a few weeks. Just wondering if
they
have developed any new tricks recently that I should be aware of?

Oh, this user had Vipre Home on his PC, and got infested anyway. Should
I
submit samples to Sunbelt (assuming I can find where they're
quarantined)???

Thanks!





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Re: Fake antivirus

2011-06-03 Thread Jeff Brown
We have had a LOT of success simply using Sys Restore to remove these
programs...

On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org wrote:

 John,

 A lot of this Fake AV is also coming from legitmate but hacked
 websites, and drive-by malware. There has been more and more sites hit
 with Web application attacks, which are imbedding malicious Iframe, and
 other goodies which are making links going to their malware sites and
 not the link they thought they was going too.

 Been seeing Fake-AV popping up as well, along with Target Phishing
 attacks, and the big fun of seeing the Military and Govt Entities being
 phished by the Chinese ( or so the US Govt says) just underlies how
 sensitive and secret information and communications are being sent over
 public email, which is pretty silly IMHO...
 Z

 Edward E. Ziots
 CISSP, Network +, Security +
 Security Engineer
 Lifespan Organization
 Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
 Cell:401-639-3505


 -Original Message-
 From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
 Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:26 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Fake antivirus

 I'm going to go to a former co-worker's this afternoon to clean his
 system
 (again) from another fake antivirus infestation. I've already got Vipre
 Rescue and Malware Bytes on a memory stick. I've also got RKILL. I
 haven't
 had to deal with any fake antivirus in a few weeks. Just wondering if
 they
 have developed any new tricks recently that I should be aware of?

 Oh, this user had Vipre Home on his PC, and got infested anyway. Should
 I
 submit samples to Sunbelt (assuming I can find where they're
 quarantined)???

 Thanks!





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RE: Fake antivirus

2011-06-03 Thread John Aldrich
Yeah...that's pretty much what I figure...and probably at least some of the
hacked websites appeal to teenagers. :D I'll see if I can't get the user to
upgrade to Vipre Home Premium. At least that should help.




-Original Message-
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

John, 

A lot of this Fake AV is also coming from legitmate but hacked
websites, and drive-by malware. There has been more and more sites hit
with Web application attacks, which are imbedding malicious Iframe, and
other goodies which are making links going to their malware sites and
not the link they thought they was going too.

Been seeing Fake-AV popping up as well, along with Target Phishing
attacks, and the big fun of seeing the Military and Govt Entities being
phished by the Chinese ( or so the US Govt says) just underlies how
sensitive and secret information and communications are being sent over
public email, which is pretty silly IMHO...
Z 

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Security Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505


-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Fake antivirus

I'm going to go to a former co-worker's this afternoon to clean his
system
(again) from another fake antivirus infestation. I've already got Vipre
Rescue and Malware Bytes on a memory stick. I've also got RKILL. I
haven't
had to deal with any fake antivirus in a few weeks. Just wondering if
they
have developed any new tricks recently that I should be aware of?

Oh, this user had Vipre Home on his PC, and got infested anyway. Should
I
submit samples to Sunbelt (assuming I can find where they're
quarantined)???

Thanks!





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RE: Fake antivirus

2011-06-03 Thread John Aldrich
Yeah...but don't you have to know how far back to restore to??? :D Plus,
there's the whole problem of *getting* to System Restore...a lot of these
fake antivirus apps will block most of your system tools. For example, I
know this one won't let you add/remove programs. You can open add/remove
programs (according to the user) but it won't let you *do* anything, because
it doesn't display anything.



From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Fake antivirus

We have had a LOT of success simply using Sys Restore to remove these
programs...
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org wrote:
John,

A lot of this Fake AV is also coming from legitmate but hacked
websites, and drive-by malware. There has been more and more sites hit
with Web application attacks, which are imbedding malicious Iframe, and
other goodies which are making links going to their malware sites and
not the link they thought they was going too.

Been seeing Fake-AV popping up as well, along with Target Phishing
attacks, and the big fun of seeing the Military and Govt Entities being
phished by the Chinese ( or so the US Govt says) just underlies how
sensitive and secret information and communications are being sent over
public email, which is pretty silly IMHO...
Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Security Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505


-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Fake antivirus

I'm going to go to a former co-worker's this afternoon to clean his
system
(again) from another fake antivirus infestation. I've already got Vipre
Rescue and Malware Bytes on a memory stick. I've also got RKILL. I
haven't
had to deal with any fake antivirus in a few weeks. Just wondering if
they
have developed any new tricks recently that I should be aware of?

Oh, this user had Vipre Home on his PC, and got infested anyway. Should
I
submit samples to Sunbelt (assuming I can find where they're
quarantined)???

Thanks!





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RE: Fake antivirus

2011-06-03 Thread Tammy Stewart
Hi John,

If you can get the fake AV's name -- I can likely shoot you some info.
There is a new(ish) one on the block that hides files, folders, shortcuts
and such. (windows recovery)
If that is what you see -- let me know. We have a restore procedure to
restore the hidden/moved files.
Also don't nuke the temps [yet] because that is where all the shortcuts are.

If MBAM quarantines it -- the quarantine is normally located here: (depends
on OS)

c:\documents and settings\USER_WHO_SCANNED\application
data\malwarebytes\malwarebyte's antimalware\quarantine -- that dir has both
the logs  the quarantined items (xp/2k/2k3)

C:\Users\USER_WHO_SCANNED\AppData\Roaming\Malwarebytes\Malwarebytes'
Anti-Malware\quarantine (vista/win7/win2k8)

Please upload anything MBAM quarantines to us.

http://www.sunbeltsecurity.com/threat

Thanks John,

Tammy

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Fake antivirus

I'm going to go to a former co-worker's this afternoon to clean his system
(again) from another fake antivirus infestation. I've already got Vipre
Rescue and Malware Bytes on a memory stick. I've also got RKILL. I haven't
had to deal with any fake antivirus in a few weeks. Just wondering if they
have developed any new tricks recently that I should be aware of?

Oh, this user had Vipre Home on his PC, and got infested anyway. Should I
submit samples to Sunbelt (assuming I can find where they're quarantined)???

Thanks!





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RE: Fake antivirus

2011-06-03 Thread Guyer, Don
Teenage (or young) users = must have parental controls!

I can't imagine how many weekends I'd have to spend rebuilding home machines 
without it.


Don Guyer
Windows Systems Engineer
RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2
Enterprise Technology Group
Fiserv
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Fax: 610-233-0404
www.fiserv.com

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

Thanks... This particular user is unlucky enough to have teenagers who use
his computer. My guess is they are visiting infected/hostile/0wned sites and
that's how he's getting infected. Never really had a problem when he was
working here, so I'm suspecting it's some of his grandkids that are causing
the problem. 

As I have not yet seen the problem, I don't know if it's going to be easy or
difficult. Hopefully MBAM and Vipre won't have any problem with it. :D

Thanks again!



From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Fake antivirus

May be time to invest in some UAT (user awareness training). Continual
re-infestation either means he is unlucky, or gung-ho in his browsing.

I've had some fake AVs recently which were ridiculously easy to get rid of
(kill process, delete files, remove autorun entry). Others have been more
stealthy - such as killing targeted windows like Task Manager. Booting into
safe mode usually prevents these extra features from bothering you.

But as with everything - a reimage may be the only way to be sure.
On 3 June 2011 15:26, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote:
I'm going to go to a former co-worker's this afternoon to clean his system
(again) from another fake antivirus infestation. I've already got Vipre
Rescue and Malware Bytes on a memory stick. I've also got RKILL. I haven't
had to deal with any fake antivirus in a few weeks. Just wondering if they
have developed any new tricks recently that I should be aware of?

Oh, this user had Vipre Home on his PC, and got infested anyway. Should I
submit samples to Sunbelt (assuming I can find where they're quarantined)???

Thanks!





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IMPORTANT: The information in this email is CONFIDENTIAL. If its contents
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Re: Fake antivirus

2011-06-03 Thread Bob Hartung
Try System Restore as well.

--

Bob Hartung
Wisco Industries, Inc.
736 Janesville St.
Oregon, WI 53575
Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215
Fax: (608) 835-7399
e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com
  _  

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 09:30:50 -0500
Subject: Re: Fake antivirus

May be time to invest in some UAT (user awareness training). Continual 
re-infestation either means he is unlucky, or gung-ho in his browsing.

I've had some fake AVs recently which were ridiculously easy to get rid of 
(kill process, delete files, remove autorun entry). Others have been more 
stealthy - such as killing targeted windows like Task Manager. Booting into 
safe mode usually prevents these extra features from bothering you.
  
But as with everything - a reimage may be the only way to be sure.


On 3 June 2011 15:26, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote:
  I'm going to go to a former co-worker's this afternoon to clean his system
  (again) from another fake antivirus infestation. I've already got Vipre
  Rescue and Malware Bytes on a memory stick. I've also got RKILL. I haven't
  had to deal with any fake antivirus in a few weeks. Just wondering if they
  have developed any new tricks recently that I should be aware of?
  
  Oh, this user had Vipre Home on his PC, and got infested anyway. Should I
  submit samples to Sunbelt (assuming I can find where they're quarantined)???
  
  Thanks!
  
  
  
  
  
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to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question.
  
IMPORTANT: The information in this email is CONFIDENTIAL. If its contents are 
disclosed in any way my lawyers will swoop down from black helicopters like 
Seal Team Six and drag you away with a black bag over your head. They will then 
take you to a secret prison and make you fight to the death with other people 
who dared to share this email. You will be given a large bowie knife and a 
supply of methamphetamines while I watch the said deathmatch and wager vast 
sums of money on who will be the winner. If the fight becomes boring or there 
is a stalemate, I will release rabid dogs and my two-stone cat into the arena 
to liven things up a bit. If these animals become in any way docile, I will 
squirt them with water pistols until they become a bit more temperamental.
  


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RE: Fake antivirus

2011-06-03 Thread John Cook
Teenagers = their own crappy box to screw up + Disc Image of clean install + 
parental controls, BTDT

 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4


-Original Message-
From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

Teenage (or young) users = must have parental controls!

I can't imagine how many weekends I'd have to spend rebuilding home machines 
without it.


Don Guyer
Windows Systems Engineer
RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2
Enterprise Technology Group
Fiserv
don.gu...@fiserv.com
Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
Fax: 610-233-0404
www.fiserv.com

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

Thanks... This particular user is unlucky enough to have teenagers who use
his computer. My guess is they are visiting infected/hostile/0wned sites and
that's how he's getting infected. Never really had a problem when he was
working here, so I'm suspecting it's some of his grandkids that are causing
the problem.

As I have not yet seen the problem, I don't know if it's going to be easy or
difficult. Hopefully MBAM and Vipre won't have any problem with it. :D

Thanks again!



From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Fake antivirus

May be time to invest in some UAT (user awareness training). Continual
re-infestation either means he is unlucky, or gung-ho in his browsing.

I've had some fake AVs recently which were ridiculously easy to get rid of
(kill process, delete files, remove autorun entry). Others have been more
stealthy - such as killing targeted windows like Task Manager. Booting into
safe mode usually prevents these extra features from bothering you.

But as with everything - a reimage may be the only way to be sure.
On 3 June 2011 15:26, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote:
I'm going to go to a former co-worker's this afternoon to clean his system
(again) from another fake antivirus infestation. I've already got Vipre
Rescue and Malware Bytes on a memory stick. I've also got RKILL. I haven't
had to deal with any fake antivirus in a few weeks. Just wondering if they
have developed any new tricks recently that I should be aware of?

Oh, this user had Vipre Home on his PC, and got infested anyway. Should I
submit samples to Sunbelt (assuming I can find where they're quarantined)???

Thanks!





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the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
a question.

IMPORTANT: The information in this email is CONFIDENTIAL. If its contents
are disclosed in any way my lawyers will swoop down from black helicopters
like Seal Team Six and drag you away with a black bag over your head. They
will then take you to a secret prison and make you fight to the death with
other people who dared to share this email. You will be given a large bowie
knife and a supply of methamphetamines while I watch the said deathmatch and
wager vast sums of money on who will be the winner. If the fight becomes
boring or there is a stalemate, I will release rabid dogs and my two-stone
cat into the arena to liven things up a bit. If these animals become in any
way docile, I will squirt them with water pistols until they become a bit
more temperamental.
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Re: Hide windows libraries

2011-06-03 Thread James Rankin
Something like these?

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/21462/how-to-enable-or-disable-the-libraries-feature-in-windows-7/

On 3 June 2011 15:37, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:

  I found a blog (don’t remember where at the moment) that had 2 simple
 scripts that would either disable or reenable Libraries. Simple double click
 and it was done.



  *John W. Cook*

 *System Administrator*

 *Partnership For Strong Families*

 *5950 NW 1st Place*

 *Gainesville, Fl 32607*

 *Office (352) 244-1610*

 *Cell (352) 215-6944*

 *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP**4, VTSP4*



 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 03, 2011 10:32 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Hide windows libraries



 I didn't have to do it on mine, I admit.

 On 3 June 2011 15:30, Guyer, Don don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote:

 If it’s a Computer GPO, is it even necessary to modify perms?



 When I Googled real quick, I didn’t see any info regarding having to change
 perms.



 Just curious, cuz I may have to do this in the future.



 J



 *Don Guyer*

 Windows Systems Engineer

 RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2

 Enterprise Technology Group

 *Fiserv*

 don.gu...@fiserv.com

 Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

 Fax: 610-233-0404

 www.fiserv.com



 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 03, 2011 10:24 AM


 *To:* NT System Admin Issues

 *Subject:* Re: Hide windows libraries



 Actually I forgot, you can set registry permissions in Computer Config |
 Policies | Windows Settings | Security Settings | Registry, IIRC

 On 3 June 2011 15:25, Guyer, Don don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote:

 It should be possible with W2k8 based GPO.

 *Don Guyer*

 Windows Systems Engineer

 RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2

 Enterprise Technology Group

 *Fiserv*

 don.gu...@fiserv.com

 Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

 Fax: 610-233-0404

 www.fiserv.com



 *From:* Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 03, 2011 10:12 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Hide windows libraries



 Folks,



 What are you doing to hide the Windows Libraries feature from your users?
 We are moving to Win 7 and for now plan to keep it hidden.



 I know I can disable this via a registry key, but it won't apply via
 GPO/script since you have to manually change the key's permissions first.
 Or is there a way to change perms via a GPO?



 Key I am using is:

 Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00




 [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{031E4825-7B94-4dc3-B131-E946B44C8DD5}\ShellFolder]
 QueryForOverlay=
 HideOnDesktopPerUser=
 PinToNameSpaceTree=
 Attributes=dword:b080010d



 Suggestions appreciated.



 Tom



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 a question.

 *IMPORTANT: The information in this email is CONFIDENTIAL. If its contents
 are disclosed in any way my lawyers will swoop down from black helicopters
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 will then take you to a secret prison and make you fight to the death with
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 cat into the arena to liven things up a bit. If these animals become in any
 way docile, I will squirt them with water pistols until they become a bit
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RE: Hide windows libraries

2011-06-03 Thread John Cook
That would be the one!

 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hide windows libraries

Something like these?

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/21462/how-to-enable-or-disable-the-libraries-feature-in-windows-7/
On 3 June 2011 15:37, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org 
wrote:
I found a blog (don't remember where at the moment) that had 2 simple scripts 
that would either disable or reenable Libraries. Simple double click and it was 
done.

 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:32 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hide windows libraries

I didn't have to do it on mine, I admit.
On 3 June 2011 15:30, Guyer, Don 
don.gu...@fiserv.commailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote:
If it's a Computer GPO, is it even necessary to modify perms?

When I Googled real quick, I didn't see any info regarding having to change 
perms.

Just curious, cuz I may have to do this in the future.

:)

Don Guyer
Windows Systems Engineer
RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2
Enterprise Technology Group
Fiserv
don.gu...@fiserv.commailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com
Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
Fax: 610-233-0404
www.fiserv.comhttp://www.fiserv.com/

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:24 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hide windows libraries

Actually I forgot, you can set registry permissions in Computer Config | 
Policies | Windows Settings | Security Settings | Registry, IIRC
On 3 June 2011 15:25, Guyer, Don 
don.gu...@fiserv.commailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote:
It should be possible with W2k8 based GPO.
Don Guyer
Windows Systems Engineer
RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2
Enterprise Technology Group
Fiserv
don.gu...@fiserv.commailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com
Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
Fax: 610-233-0404
www.fiserv.comhttp://www.fiserv.com/

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.orgmailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Hide windows libraries

Folks,

What are you doing to hide the Windows Libraries feature from your users?  We 
are moving to Win 7 and for now plan to keep it hidden.

I know I can disable this via a registry key, but it won't apply via GPO/script 
since you have to manually change the key's permissions first.  Or is there a 
way to change perms via a GPO?

Key I am using is:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{031E4825-7B94-4dc3-B131-E946B44C8DD5}\ShellFolder]
QueryForOverlay=
HideOnDesktopPerUser=
PinToNameSpaceTree=
Attributes=dword:b080010d

Suggestions appreciated.

Tom


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machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly 
to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question.

IMPORTANT: The information in this email is CONFIDENTIAL. If its contents are 
disclosed in any way my lawyers will swoop down from black helicopters like 
Seal Team Six and drag you away with a black bag over your head. They will then 
take you to a secret prison and make you fight to the death with other people 
who dared to share this email. You will be given a large bowie knife and a 
supply of methamphetamines while I watch the said 

Re: Fake antivirus

2011-06-03 Thread James Rankin
They mainly block windows by using the title of the window to decide what to
kill

Just open the window on a separate desktop (
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/cc817881) or just boot to
safe mode.

Occasionally they will use the relevant group policy registry keys to block,
but the window killing variants are more common, so they must have this
functionality baked into a toolkit somewhere.

On 3 June 2011 15:42, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote:

 Yeah...but don't you have to know how far back to restore to??? :D Plus,
 there's the whole problem of *getting* to System Restore...a lot of these
 fake antivirus apps will block most of your system tools. For example, I
 know this one won't let you add/remove programs. You can open add/remove
 programs (according to the user) but it won't let you *do* anything,
 because
 it doesn't display anything.



 From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:38 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Fake antivirus

 We have had a LOT of success simply using Sys Restore to remove these
 programs...
 On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org wrote:
 John,

 A lot of this Fake AV is also coming from legitmate but hacked
 websites, and drive-by malware. There has been more and more sites hit
 with Web application attacks, which are imbedding malicious Iframe, and
 other goodies which are making links going to their malware sites and
 not the link they thought they was going too.

 Been seeing Fake-AV popping up as well, along with Target Phishing
 attacks, and the big fun of seeing the Military and Govt Entities being
 phished by the Chinese ( or so the US Govt says) just underlies how
 sensitive and secret information and communications are being sent over
 public email, which is pretty silly IMHO...
 Z

 Edward E. Ziots
 CISSP, Network +, Security +
 Security Engineer
 Lifespan Organization
 Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
 Cell:401-639-3505


 -Original Message-
 From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
 Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:26 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Fake antivirus

 I'm going to go to a former co-worker's this afternoon to clean his
 system
 (again) from another fake antivirus infestation. I've already got Vipre
 Rescue and Malware Bytes on a memory stick. I've also got RKILL. I
 haven't
 had to deal with any fake antivirus in a few weeks. Just wondering if
 they
 have developed any new tricks recently that I should be aware of?

 Oh, this user had Vipre Home on his PC, and got infested anyway. Should
 I
 submit samples to Sunbelt (assuming I can find where they're
 quarantined)???

 Thanks!





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the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
a question.

*IMPORTANT: The information in this email is CONFIDENTIAL. If its contents
are disclosed in any way my lawyers will swoop down from black helicopters
like Seal Team Six and drag you away with a black bag over your head. They
will then take you to a secret prison and make you fight to the death with
other people who dared to share this email. You will be given a large bowie
knife and a supply of methamphetamines while I watch the said deathmatch and
wager vast sums of money on who will be the winner. If the fight becomes
boring or there is a stalemate, I will release rabid dogs and my two-stone
cat into the arena to liven things up a bit. If these animals become in any
way docile, I will squirt them with water pistols until they 

RE: Fake antivirus

2011-06-03 Thread Guyer, Don
Ours have one of those, plus a netbook. In the past 3-4 yrs, I've
managed to only have to rebuild each, once  *knock on wood*.

They don't touch the parent's PC.

:)

Don Guyer
Windows Systems Engineer
RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2
Enterprise Technology Group
Fiserv
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Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
Fax: 610-233-0404
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-Original Message-
From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

Teenagers = their own crappy box to screw up + Disc Image of clean
install + parental controls, BTDT

 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4


-Original Message-
From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

Teenage (or young) users = must have parental controls!

I can't imagine how many weekends I'd have to spend rebuilding home
machines without it.


Don Guyer
Windows Systems Engineer
RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2
Enterprise Technology Group
Fiserv
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Fax: 610-233-0404
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-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

Thanks... This particular user is unlucky enough to have teenagers who
use
his computer. My guess is they are visiting infected/hostile/0wned sites
and
that's how he's getting infected. Never really had a problem when he was
working here, so I'm suspecting it's some of his grandkids that are
causing
the problem.

As I have not yet seen the problem, I don't know if it's going to be
easy or
difficult. Hopefully MBAM and Vipre won't have any problem with it. :D

Thanks again!



From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Fake antivirus

May be time to invest in some UAT (user awareness training). Continual
re-infestation either means he is unlucky, or gung-ho in his browsing.

I've had some fake AVs recently which were ridiculously easy to get rid
of
(kill process, delete files, remove autorun entry). Others have been
more
stealthy - such as killing targeted windows like Task Manager. Booting
into
safe mode usually prevents these extra features from bothering you.

But as with everything - a reimage may be the only way to be sure.
On 3 June 2011 15:26, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote:
I'm going to go to a former co-worker's this afternoon to clean his
system
(again) from another fake antivirus infestation. I've already got Vipre
Rescue and Malware Bytes on a memory stick. I've also got RKILL. I
haven't
had to deal with any fake antivirus in a few weeks. Just wondering if
they
have developed any new tricks recently that I should be aware of?

Oh, this user had Vipre Home on his PC, and got infested anyway. Should
I
submit samples to Sunbelt (assuming I can find where they're
quarantined)???

Thanks!





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On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put
into
the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not
able
rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke
such
a question.

IMPORTANT: The information in this email is CONFIDENTIAL. If its
contents
are disclosed in any way my lawyers will swoop down from black
helicopters
like Seal Team Six and drag you away with a black bag over your head.
They
will then take you to a secret prison and make you fight to the death
with
other people who dared to share this email. You will be given a large
bowie
knife and a supply of methamphetamines while I watch the said deathmatch
and
wager vast sums of money on who will be the winner. If the fight becomes
boring or there is a stalemate, I will release rabid dogs and my
two-stone
cat into the arena to liven things up a bit. If these animals become in
any
way docile, I will squirt them with water pistols until they become a
bit
more temperamental.
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RE: Hide windows libraries

2011-06-03 Thread Tom Miller
Thanks, another option.  I was able to use the original key below after
modifying the perms for the key's subfolder, as suggested by James.  I
was using this link (left Favorites, hid Libraries):
 
http://www.petri.co.il/remove-libraries-and-favorites-from-windows-explorer.htm

 John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org 6/3/2011 10:50 AM 

That would be the one!
 
 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4
 
From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hide windows libraries

 
Something like these?

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/21462/how-to-enable-or-disable-the-libraries-feature-in-windows-7/

On 3 June 2011 15:37, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:

I found a blog (don’t remember where at the moment) that had 2 simple
scripts that would either disable or reenable Libraries. Simple double
click and it was done.  
 
 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4
 
From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:32 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hide windows libraries

 
I didn't have to do it on mine, I admit.

On 3 June 2011 15:30, Guyer, Don don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote:

If it’s a Computer GPO, is it even necessary to modify perms?
 
When I Googled real quick, I didn’t see any info regarding having to
change perms.
 
Just curious, cuz I may have to do this in the future.

 
J
 
Don Guyer
Windows Systems Engineer
RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2
Enterprise Technology Group
Fiserv
don.gu...@fiserv.com
Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
Fax: 610-233-0404
www.fiserv.com
 

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:24 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Hide windows libraries

 
Actually I forgot, you can set registry permissions in Computer Config
| Policies | Windows Settings | Security Settings | Registry, IIRC

On 3 June 2011 15:25, Guyer, Don don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote:

It should be possible with W2k8 based GPO.

Don Guyer
Windows Systems Engineer
RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2
Enterprise Technology Group
Fiserv
don.gu...@fiserv.com
Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
Fax: 610-233-0404
www.fiserv.com

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Hide windows libraries

 

Folks,

 

What are you doing to hide the Windows Libraries feature from your
users?  We are moving to Win 7 and for now plan to keep it hidden.

 

I know I can disable this via a registry key, but it won't apply via
GPO/script since you have to manually change the key's permissions
first.  Or is there a way to change perms via a GPO?

 

Key I am using is:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

 

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{031E4825-7B94-4dc3-B131-E946B44C8DD5}\ShellFolder]
QueryForOverlay=
HideOnDesktopPerUser=
PinToNameSpaceTree=
Attributes=dword:b080010d

 

Suggestions appreciated.

 

Tom

 
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On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put
into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am
not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could
provoke such a question.

IMPORTANT: The information in this email is CONFIDENTIAL. If its
contents are disclosed in any way my lawyers will swoop down from black
helicopters like Seal Team Six and drag you away with a black bag over
your head. They will then take you to a secret prison and make you fight
to the death with other people who dared to share this email. You will
be given a large bowie knife and a supply of methamphetamines while I
watch 

RE: Fake antivirus

2011-06-03 Thread John Aldrich
Will do. Thanks!




-Original Message-
From: Tammy Stewart [mailto:copper...@personainternet.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

Hi John,

If you can get the fake AV's name -- I can likely shoot you some info.
There is a new(ish) one on the block that hides files, folders, shortcuts
and such. (windows recovery)
If that is what you see -- let me know. We have a restore procedure to
restore the hidden/moved files.
Also don't nuke the temps [yet] because that is where all the shortcuts are.

If MBAM quarantines it -- the quarantine is normally located here: (depends
on OS)

c:\documents and settings\USER_WHO_SCANNED\application
data\malwarebytes\malwarebyte's antimalware\quarantine -- that dir has both
the logs  the quarantined items (xp/2k/2k3)

C:\Users\USER_WHO_SCANNED\AppData\Roaming\Malwarebytes\Malwarebytes'
Anti-Malware\quarantine (vista/win7/win2k8)

Please upload anything MBAM quarantines to us.

http://www.sunbeltsecurity.com/threat

Thanks John,

Tammy

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Fake antivirus

I'm going to go to a former co-worker's this afternoon to clean his system
(again) from another fake antivirus infestation. I've already got Vipre
Rescue and Malware Bytes on a memory stick. I've also got RKILL. I haven't
had to deal with any fake antivirus in a few weeks. Just wondering if they
have developed any new tricks recently that I should be aware of?

Oh, this user had Vipre Home on his PC, and got infested anyway. Should I
submit samples to Sunbelt (assuming I can find where they're quarantined)???

Thanks!





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Re: Hide windows libraries

2011-06-03 Thread James Rankin
I think that it is high time MS gave us some GPOs to manage libraries. There
will be many Win7 / 2008 R2 RDS deployments starting and we all know users
who can't cope when something changes. Reg key hacks and stripping perms
with subinacl really isn't a good way to be managing these sort of
modifications to a new desktop environment, IMHO.

On 3 June 2011 15:58, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote:

  Thanks, another option.  I was able to use the original key below after
 modifying the perms for the key's subfolder, as suggested by James.  I was
 using this link (left Favorites, hid Libraries):


 http://www.petri.co.il/remove-libraries-and-favorites-from-windows-explorer.htm

  John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org 6/3/2011 10:50 AM 

 That would be the one!



  *John W. Cook*

 *System Administrator*

 *Partnership For Strong Families*

 *5950 NW 1st Place*

 *Gainesville, Fl 32607*

 *Office (352) 244-1610*

 *Cell (352) 215-6944*

 *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP**4, VTSP4*



 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 03, 2011 10:46 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Hide windows libraries



 Something like these?


 http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/21462/how-to-enable-or-disable-the-libraries-feature-in-windows-7/

 On 3 June 2011 15:37, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:

 I found a blog (don’t remember where at the moment) that had 2 simple
 scripts that would either disable or reenable Libraries. Simple double click
 and it was done.



  *John W. Cook*

 *System Administrator*

 *Partnership For Strong Families*

 *5950 NW 1st Place*

 *Gainesville, Fl 32607*

 *Office (352) 244-1610*

 *Cell (352) 215-6944*

 *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4*



 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 03, 2011 10:32 AM


 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Hide windows libraries



 I didn't have to do it on mine, I admit.

 On 3 June 2011 15:30, Guyer, Don don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote:

 If it’s a Computer GPO, is it even necessary to modify perms?



 When I Googled real quick, I didn’t see any info regarding having to change
 perms.



 Just curious, cuz I may have to do this in the future.



 J



 *Don Guyer*

 Windows Systems Engineer

 RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2

 Enterprise Technology Group

 *Fiserv*

 don.gu...@fiserv.com

 Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

 Fax: 610-233-0404

 www.fiserv.com



 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 03, 2011 10:24 AM


 *To:* NT System Admin Issues

 *Subject:* Re: Hide windows libraries



 Actually I forgot, you can set registry permissions in Computer Config |
 Policies | Windows Settings | Security Settings | Registry, IIRC

 On 3 June 2011 15:25, Guyer, Don don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote:

 It should be possible with W2k8 based GPO.

 *Don Guyer*

 Windows Systems Engineer

 RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2

 Enterprise Technology Group

 *Fiserv*

 don.gu...@fiserv.com

 Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

 Fax: 610-233-0404

 www.fiserv.com



 *From:* Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 03, 2011 10:12 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Hide windows libraries



 Folks,



 What are you doing to hide the Windows Libraries feature from your users?
 We are moving to Win 7 and for now plan to keep it hidden.



 I know I can disable this via a registry key, but it won't apply via
 GPO/script since you have to manually change the key's permissions first.
 Or is there a way to change perms via a GPO?



 Key I am using is:

 Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00




 [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{031E4825-7B94-4dc3-B131-E946B44C8DD5}\ShellFolder]
 QueryForOverlay=
 HideOnDesktopPerUser=
 PinToNameSpaceTree=
 Attributes=dword:b080010d



 Suggestions appreciated.



 Tom



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 On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, 

RE: Hide windows libraries

2011-06-03 Thread Mayo, Bill
Agreed.  These things are particularly irritating when you are trying to
create a locked-down profile.

 

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 11:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hide windows libraries

 

I think that it is high time MS gave us some GPOs to manage libraries.
There will be many Win7 / 2008 R2 RDS deployments starting and we all
know users who can't cope when something changes. Reg key hacks and
stripping perms with subinacl really isn't a good way to be managing
these sort of modifications to a new desktop environment, IMHO.

On 3 June 2011 15:58, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote:

Thanks, another option.  I was able to use the original key below after
modifying the perms for the key's subfolder, as suggested by James.  I
was using this link (left Favorites, hid Libraries):

 

http://www.petri.co.il/remove-libraries-and-favorites-from-windows-explo
rer.htm

 John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org 6/3/2011 10:50 AM 

That would be the one!

 

 John W. Cook

System Administrator

Partnership For Strong Families

5950 NW 1st Place

Gainesville, Fl 32607

Office (352) 244-1610

Cell (352) 215-6944

MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

 

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hide windows libraries

 

Something like these?

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/21462/how-to-enable-or-disable-the-librar
ies-feature-in-windows-7/

On 3 June 2011 15:37, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:

I found a blog (don't remember where at the moment) that had 2 simple
scripts that would either disable or reenable Libraries. Simple double
click and it was done.  

 

 John W. Cook

System Administrator

Partnership For Strong Families

5950 NW 1st Place

Gainesville, Fl 32607

Office (352) 244-1610

Cell (352) 215-6944

MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

 

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:32 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hide windows libraries

 

I didn't have to do it on mine, I admit.

On 3 June 2011 15:30, Guyer, Don don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote:

If it's a Computer GPO, is it even necessary to modify perms?

 

When I Googled real quick, I didn't see any info regarding having to
change perms.

 

Just curious, cuz I may have to do this in the future.

 

J

 

Don Guyer

Windows Systems Engineer

RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2

Enterprise Technology Group

Fiserv

don.gu...@fiserv.com

Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

Fax: 610-233-0404

www.fiserv.com http://www.fiserv.com/ 

 

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:24 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Hide windows libraries

 

Actually I forgot, you can set registry permissions in Computer Config |
Policies | Windows Settings | Security Settings | Registry, IIRC

On 3 June 2011 15:25, Guyer, Don don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote:

It should be possible with W2k8 based GPO.

Don Guyer

Windows Systems Engineer

RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2

Enterprise Technology Group

Fiserv

don.gu...@fiserv.com

Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

Fax: 610-233-0404

www.fiserv.com http://www.fiserv.com/ 

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Hide windows libraries

 

Folks,

 

What are you doing to hide the Windows Libraries feature from your
users?  We are moving to Win 7 and for now plan to keep it hidden.

 

I know I can disable this via a registry key, but it won't apply via
GPO/script since you have to manually change the key's permissions
first.  Or is there a way to change perms via a GPO?

 

Key I am using is:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

 

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{031E4825-7B94-4dc3-B131-E946B44C8DD5}\ShellFol
der]
QueryForOverlay=
HideOnDesktopPerUser=
PinToNameSpaceTree=
Attributes=dword:b080010d

 

Suggestions appreciated.

 

Tom

 

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Re: Hide windows libraries

2011-06-03 Thread James Rankin
I've started carrying around a portfolio of pre-built profiles from previous
jobs and using them as required. Saves all the hassle happening repeatedly.

On 3 June 2011 16:30, Mayo, Bill bem...@pittcountync.gov wrote:

 Agreed.  These things are particularly irritating when you are trying to
 create a locked-down profile.



 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 03, 2011 11:10 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Hide windows libraries



 I think that it is high time MS gave us some GPOs to manage libraries.
 There will be many Win7 / 2008 R2 RDS deployments starting and we all know
 users who can't cope when something changes. Reg key hacks and stripping
 perms with subinacl really isn't a good way to be managing these sort of
 modifications to a new desktop environment, IMHO.

 On 3 June 2011 15:58, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote:

 Thanks, another option.  I was able to use the original key below after
 modifying the perms for the key's subfolder, as suggested by James.  I was
 using this link (left Favorites, hid Libraries):




 http://www.petri.co.il/remove-libraries-and-favorites-from-windows-explorer.htm

  John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org 6/3/2011 10:50 AM 

 That would be the one!



  *John W. Cook*

 *System Administrator*

 *Partnership For Strong Families*

 *5950 NW 1st Place*

 *Gainesville, Fl 32607*

 *Office (352) 244-1610*

 *Cell (352) 215-6944*

 *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4*



 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 03, 2011 10:46 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Hide windows libraries



 Something like these?


 http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/21462/how-to-enable-or-disable-the-libraries-feature-in-windows-7/

 On 3 June 2011 15:37, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:

 I found a blog (don’t remember where at the moment) that had 2 simple
 scripts that would either disable or reenable Libraries. Simple double click
 and it was done.



  *John W. Cook*

 *System Administrator*

 *Partnership For Strong Families*

 *5950 NW 1st Place*

 *Gainesville, Fl 32607*

 *Office (352) 244-1610*

 *Cell (352) 215-6944*

 *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4*



 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 03, 2011 10:32 AM


 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Hide windows libraries



 I didn't have to do it on mine, I admit.

 On 3 June 2011 15:30, Guyer, Don don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote:

 If it’s a Computer GPO, is it even necessary to modify perms?



 When I Googled real quick, I didn’t see any info regarding having to change
 perms.



 Just curious, cuz I may have to do this in the future.



 J



 *Don Guyer*

 Windows Systems Engineer

 RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2

 Enterprise Technology Group

 *Fiserv*

 don.gu...@fiserv.com

 Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

 Fax: 610-233-0404

 www.fiserv.com



 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 03, 2011 10:24 AM


 *To:* NT System Admin Issues

 *Subject:* Re: Hide windows libraries



 Actually I forgot, you can set registry permissions in Computer Config |
 Policies | Windows Settings | Security Settings | Registry, IIRC

 On 3 June 2011 15:25, Guyer, Don don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote:

 It should be possible with W2k8 based GPO.

 *Don Guyer*

 Windows Systems Engineer

 RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2

 Enterprise Technology Group

 *Fiserv*

 don.gu...@fiserv.com

 Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

 Fax: 610-233-0404

 www.fiserv.com



 *From:* Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 03, 2011 10:12 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Hide windows libraries



 Folks,



 What are you doing to hide the Windows Libraries feature from your users?
 We are moving to Win 7 and for now plan to keep it hidden.



 I know I can disable this via a registry key, but it won't apply via
 GPO/script since you have to manually change the key's permissions first.
 Or is there a way to change perms via a GPO?



 Key I am using is:

 Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00




 [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{031E4825-7B94-4dc3-B131-E946B44C8DD5}\ShellFolder]
 QueryForOverlay=
 HideOnDesktopPerUser=
 PinToNameSpaceTree=
 Attributes=dword:b080010d



 Suggestions appreciated.



 Tom



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Re: * Dramatic Overhaul of Windows GUI: Video

2011-06-03 Thread Alex Eckelberry


Alex Eckelberry
Cell:  727-644-8830

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-Original Message-
From: Mike Gill lis...@canbyfoursquare.com
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Thu Jun 02 20:13:25 2011
Subject: RE: * Dramatic Overhaul of Windows GUI: Video

Hmm, looks familiar:

 

http://www.mosaicbytribune.com/

 

Not at sophisticated as what’s in that video, but it sure looks inspired by.

-- 
Mike Gill

 

From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 12:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: * Dramatic Overhaul of Windows GUI: Video

 

  * Dramatic Overhaul of Windows GUI: Video

 

At a press event in Taipei this week, Redmond showed the next version of 
Windows, unveiling a dramatically overhauled tiles-based interface that 
they hope will be competitive in the tablet world. Microsoft marketing
people must have gotten their fingers in this pie, because it's called a
reimagining of Windows. Win8 will run on all types of devices from 
small, touch-sensitive smart phone screens to traditional large-screen 
PCs, and Win8 can be used with or without a keyboard and mouse. 

 

Basically, the screen looks just like the new Windows smart phone screen.
The application comes quickly to life as Windows fades to the background, 
said Michael Angiulo, Windows Planning VP. The tiles on the start screen 
are live -- they represent your people, your applications, your contacts, 
the information you care the most about, he said. You can group them, 
arrange them and name them as you like, so that first start screen 
experience is really personal.  

 

Win 8 still also provides the normal Windows desktop and backward 
compatibility with existing Windows apps.  Microsoft President Steve 
Sinofsky stated: Windows 8 is example of coloring outside the lines.
We have an approach that is different, but builds on the value of an 
OS that sells 400 million or so units a year. Laptops, slates, desktops 
can all run one operating system. I will be reporting about this a lot 
more in the future. Stay tuned. Here's how it looks! 4:34 Youtube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p92QfWOw88I 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p92QfWOw88I  

 

Warm regards,

 

Stu  

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More Sony All The Time

2011-06-03 Thread Andrew S. Baker
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9217273/Sony_Pictures_falls_victim_to_major_data_breach

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9217273/Sony_Pictures_falls_victim_to_major_data_breach

*Sony itself characterized the PlayStation Network and Sony Online
Entertainment intrusions as highly targeted and sophisticated cyberattacks.
However, all of the publicly disclosed ones since then appear to have been
the result of some fundamental security oversights on the part of the
company.*
Apparently, poor security is part of the corporate culture...



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Re: Tape backup policies

2011-06-03 Thread Mike Leone
On 6/3/2011 9:53 AM, richardmccl...@aspca.org wrote:
 
 Here is something I don't recall being discussed...
 
 LTO1 may be read by an LTO3 drive.  Our LTO3 tapes supposedly can be
 read by our new LTO5 drive...
 
 What I'm getting at is, keeping forever may require moth-balling
 machines so they can be read if necessary

Or drives .. I have a stand-alone SDLT320 and stand-alone SDLT600 tape
drive, attached to a server other than my current backup server,
specifically for the reason of reading old tapes.

It becomes more aggravating when I need an old ArcServe tape, instead of
more current Networker. That's why I have a separate machine that is a
Networker storage ndoe, that also has ArcServe installed on it. So I can
start whichever backup program I need, to do restores.

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Re: Tape backup policies

2011-06-03 Thread Joseph Heaton
Well, the number of tapes depends on how much data, really.  Here, we send 
about 10TB to tape each week.

But, we keep weekly backups for 6 weeks, and monthly backups for 400 days.  
Weeklies go to an office about 6 blocks away, and monthlies go to Iron Mountain.

 David Mazzaccaro david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com 6/3/2011 6:12 AM 
Hello everyone.
For those who are still backing up to tape...

What do you guys have for tape backup policies?
I'm curious as to how far back you are keeping tapes - 1 year? 5 years?

I've typically seen a 10 tape rotation w/ a monthly tape put in offsite
storage.
Is this still common practice?

.
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Re: RE: Fake antivirus

2011-06-03 Thread Jonathan
Tammy,

I ran into one a few weeks back that hid files and folders like what you
described. I think I reversed everything it did, but is there any other info
that you can share with the group aside from what you've posted here?

Thanks,

Jonathan A+, MCSA, MCSE

Thumb-typed from my HTC Droid Incredible (and yes, it really is) on the
Verizon network. Please excuse brevity and any misspellings.

On Jun 3, 2011 10:43 AM, Tammy Stewart copper...@personainternet.com
wrote:
 Hi John,

 If you can get the fake AV's name -- I can likely shoot you some info.
 There is a new(ish) one on the block that hides files, folders, shortcuts
 and such. (windows recovery)
 If that is what you see -- let me know. We have a restore procedure to
 restore the hidden/moved files.
 Also don't nuke the temps [yet] because that is where all the shortcuts
are.

 If MBAM quarantines it -- the quarantine is normally located here:
(depends
 on OS)

 c:\documents and settings\USER_WHO_SCANNED\application
 data\malwarebytes\malwarebyte's antimalware\quarantine -- that dir has
both
 the logs  the quarantined items (xp/2k/2k3)

 C:\Users\USER_WHO_SCANNED\AppData\Roaming\Malwarebytes\Malwarebytes'
 Anti-Malware\quarantine (vista/win7/win2k8)

 Please upload anything MBAM quarantines to us.

 http://www.sunbeltsecurity.com/threat

 Thanks John,

 Tammy

 -Original Message-
 From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
 Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:26 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Fake antivirus

 I'm going to go to a former co-worker's this afternoon to clean his system
 (again) from another fake antivirus infestation. I've already got Vipre
 Rescue and Malware Bytes on a memory stick. I've also got RKILL. I haven't
 had to deal with any fake antivirus in a few weeks. Just wondering if they
 have developed any new tricks recently that I should be aware of?

 Oh, this user had Vipre Home on his PC, and got infested anyway. Should I
 submit samples to Sunbelt (assuming I can find where they're
quarantined)???

 Thanks!





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Re: Hide windows libraries

2011-06-03 Thread Andrew S. Baker
I *love* the recent places feature...

To me, the reverse of the problem you mention is worse.  Much worse.



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 *



On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com wrote:

 Since we are the subject, is there any way for explorer to NOT remember the
 last folder where I saved something?

 Sometimes I save something very deep in the network… so that the next time
 I want to save something, to the desktop, I have to scroll ALL the way to
 the top to find desktop.

 PITA.



 Sam



 *From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 03, 2011 11:47 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Hide windows libraries



 *NOTE:*  If you have x64 there is one more step needed to remove them from
 the ‘Open/Save As’ dialog boxes as well.



 Otherwise you are only removing them from Explorer.




 http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/35627-libraries-folder-add-remove-navigation-pane.html



 In short:



 HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{031E4825-7B94-4dc3-B131-E946B44C8DD5}\ShellFolder

 To b090010d



 AND


 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Classes\CLSID\{031E4825-7B94-4dc3-B131-E946B44C8DD5}\ShellFolder

 To b090010d







 -Sam













 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 03, 2011 10:34 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Hide windows libraries



 I've started carrying around a portfolio of pre-built profiles from
 previous jobs and using them as required. Saves all the hassle happening
 repeatedly.

 On 3 June 2011 16:30, Mayo, Bill bem...@pittcountync.gov wrote:

 Agreed.  These things are particularly irritating when you are trying to
 create a locked-down profile.



 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 03, 2011 11:10 AM


 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Hide windows libraries



 I think that it is high time MS gave us some GPOs to manage libraries.
 There will be many Win7 / 2008 R2 RDS deployments starting and we all know
 users who can't cope when something changes. Reg key hacks and stripping
 perms with subinacl really isn't a good way to be managing these sort of
 modifications to a new desktop environment, IMHO.

 On 3 June 2011 15:58, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote:

 Thanks, another option.  I was able to use the original key below after
 modifying the perms for the key's subfolder, as suggested by James.  I was
 using this link (left Favorites, hid Libraries):




 http://www.petri.co.il/remove-libraries-and-favorites-from-windows-explorer.htm

  John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org 6/3/2011 10:50 AM 

 That would be the one!



  *John W. Cook*

 *System Administrator*

 *Partnership For Strong Families*

 *5950 NW 1st Place*

 *Gainesville, Fl 32607*

 *Office (352) 244-1610*

 *Cell (352) 215-6944*

 *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4*



 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 03, 2011 10:46 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Hide windows libraries



 Something like these?


 http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/21462/how-to-enable-or-disable-the-libraries-feature-in-windows-7/

 On 3 June 2011 15:37, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:

 I found a blog (don’t remember where at the moment) that had 2 simple
 scripts that would either disable or reenable Libraries. Simple double click
 and it was done.



  *John W. Cook*

 *System Administrator*

 *Partnership For Strong Families*

 *5950 NW 1st Place*

 *Gainesville, Fl 32607*

 *Office (352) 244-1610*

 *Cell (352) 215-6944*

 *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4*



 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 03, 2011 10:32 AM


 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Hide windows libraries



 I didn't have to do it on mine, I admit.

 On 3 June 2011 15:30, Guyer, Don don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote:

 If it’s a Computer GPO, is it even necessary to modify perms?



 When I Googled real quick, I didn’t see any info regarding having to change
 perms.



 Just curious, cuz I may have to do this in the future.



 J



 *Don Guyer*

 Windows Systems Engineer

 RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2

 Enterprise Technology Group

 *Fiserv*

 don.gu...@fiserv.com

 Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

 Fax: 610-233-0404

 www.fiserv.com



 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 03, 2011 10:24 AM


 *To:* NT System Admin Issues

 *Subject:* Re: Hide windows libraries



 Actually I forgot, you can set registry permissions in Computer Config |
 Policies | Windows Settings | Security Settings | Registry, IIRC

 On 3 June 2011 15:25, Guyer, Don don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote:

 It should be possible with W2k8 based GPO.

 *Don Guyer*

 Windows Systems Engineer

 RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2

 Enterprise 

Re: Hide windows libraries

2011-06-03 Thread Rankin, James R
Hence the need for the GPOs to keep all happy...

Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerry® wireless device

-Original Message-
From: Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 12:56:24 
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: Re: Hide windows libraries

I *love* the recent places feature...

To me, the reverse of the problem you mention is worse.  Much worse.



 *ASB *(Professional Bio http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio)
 *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market...

 *



On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com wrote:

 Since we are the subject, is there any way for explorer to NOT remember the
 last folder where I saved something?

 Sometimes I save something very deep in the network… so that the next time
 I want to save something, to the desktop, I have to scroll ALL the way to
 the top to find desktop.

 PITA.



 Sam



 *From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 03, 2011 11:47 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Hide windows libraries



 *NOTE:*  If you have x64 there is one more step needed to remove them from
 the ‘Open/Save As’ dialog boxes as well.



 Otherwise you are only removing them from Explorer.




 http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/35627-libraries-folder-add-remove-navigation-pane.html



 In short:



 HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{031E4825-7B94-4dc3-B131-E946B44C8DD5}\ShellFolder

 To b090010d



 AND


 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Classes\CLSID\{031E4825-7B94-4dc3-B131-E946B44C8DD5}\ShellFolder

 To b090010d







 -Sam













 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 03, 2011 10:34 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Hide windows libraries



 I've started carrying around a portfolio of pre-built profiles from
 previous jobs and using them as required. Saves all the hassle happening
 repeatedly.

 On 3 June 2011 16:30, Mayo, Bill bem...@pittcountync.gov wrote:

 Agreed.  These things are particularly irritating when you are trying to
 create a locked-down profile.



 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 03, 2011 11:10 AM


 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Hide windows libraries



 I think that it is high time MS gave us some GPOs to manage libraries.
 There will be many Win7 / 2008 R2 RDS deployments starting and we all know
 users who can't cope when something changes. Reg key hacks and stripping
 perms with subinacl really isn't a good way to be managing these sort of
 modifications to a new desktop environment, IMHO.

 On 3 June 2011 15:58, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote:

 Thanks, another option.  I was able to use the original key below after
 modifying the perms for the key's subfolder, as suggested by James.  I was
 using this link (left Favorites, hid Libraries):




 http://www.petri.co.il/remove-libraries-and-favorites-from-windows-explorer.htm

  John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org 6/3/2011 10:50 AM 

 That would be the one!



  *John W. Cook*

 *System Administrator*

 *Partnership For Strong Families*

 *5950 NW 1st Place*

 *Gainesville, Fl 32607*

 *Office (352) 244-1610*

 *Cell (352) 215-6944*

 *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4*



 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 03, 2011 10:46 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Hide windows libraries



 Something like these?


 http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/21462/how-to-enable-or-disable-the-libraries-feature-in-windows-7/

 On 3 June 2011 15:37, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:

 I found a blog (don’t remember where at the moment) that had 2 simple
 scripts that would either disable or reenable Libraries. Simple double click
 and it was done.



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 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 03, 2011 10:32 AM


 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Hide windows libraries



 I didn't have to do it on mine, I admit.

 On 3 June 2011 15:30, Guyer, Don don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote:

 If it’s a Computer GPO, is it even necessary to modify perms?



 When I Googled real quick, I didn’t see any info regarding having to change
 perms.



 Just curious, cuz I may have to do this in the future.



 J



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 *Sent:* Friday, June 03, 2011 10:24 AM


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RE: Fake antivirus

2011-06-03 Thread Gene Giannamore
Had very good luck so far using combofix, Malwarebytes, and viper. Although 1 
computer running XPsp3 is now very slow and the user does not want a wipe. I 
found combofix http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/combofix/how-to-use-combofix 
here.
I do not follow the directions completely; I don't post the log file to any 
forum. I do, disable AV, run updated combofix, enable AV, run malwarebytes. If 
there is anything still going on, I'll do a quick scan with superantispyware 
then investigate manually (registry, running processes, files).

Gene Giannamore


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Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 7:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Fake antivirus

I'm going to go to a former co-worker's this afternoon to clean his system
(again) from another fake antivirus infestation. I've already got Vipre
Rescue and Malware Bytes on a memory stick. I've also got RKILL. I haven't
had to deal with any fake antivirus in a few weeks. Just wondering if they
have developed any new tricks recently that I should be aware of?

Oh, this user had Vipre Home on his PC, and got infested anyway. Should I
submit samples to Sunbelt (assuming I can find where they're quarantined)???

Thanks!





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RE: Fake antivirus

2011-06-03 Thread Maglinger, Paul
+1 for combofix at home.

-Original Message-
From: Gene Giannamore [mailto:gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 12:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

Had very good luck so far using combofix, Malwarebytes, and viper.
Although 1 computer running XPsp3 is now very slow and the user does not
want a wipe. I found combofix
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/combofix/how-to-use-combofix here.
I do not follow the directions completely; I don't post the log file to
any forum. I do, disable AV, run updated combofix, enable AV, run
malwarebytes. If there is anything still going on, I'll do a quick scan
with superantispyware then investigate manually (registry, running
processes, files).

Gene Giannamore


-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 7:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Fake antivirus

I'm going to go to a former co-worker's this afternoon to clean his
system
(again) from another fake antivirus infestation. I've already got Vipre
Rescue and Malware Bytes on a memory stick. I've also got RKILL. I
haven't
had to deal with any fake antivirus in a few weeks. Just wondering if
they
have developed any new tricks recently that I should be aware of?

Oh, this user had Vipre Home on his PC, and got infested anyway. Should
I
submit samples to Sunbelt (assuming I can find where they're
quarantined)???

Thanks!





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RE: Hide windows libraries

2011-06-03 Thread Webster
You are starting to sound like a conslutant! J

 

 

Webster

 

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Subject: Re: Hide windows libraries

 

I've started carrying around a portfolio of pre-built profiles from previous
jobs and using them as required. Saves all the hassle happening repeatedly.


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Re: Fake antivirus

2011-06-03 Thread RichardMcClary
As to tricks...  Often there is something hidden somewhere that 
downloads something else.  It is this second download that gets flagged. 
Meanwhile, the original whatever is still there, so it continues to 
download the same thing (or a variant).

Since this person is a VIPRE customer, be prepared to call their support. 
Not that you can't handle it yourself with the advice given in the string, 
but they may save considerable time (and may be aware of some of these 
hidden process which are continuing to download infections).

ps - perhaps a long wait time for the call, but they are very very good!
--
richard




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had to deal with any fake antivirus in a few weeks. Just wondering if they
have developed any new tricks recently that I should be aware of?

Oh, this user had Vipre Home on his PC, and got infested anyway. Should I
submit samples to Sunbelt (assuming I can find where they're 
quarantined)???

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Re: Tape backup policies

2011-06-03 Thread RichardMcClary
+1 on the documentation!

Last read-through of PCI standards, there were not that many specifics as 
to how many, how long, how often, etc.  What was explicit, though, was 
that a written policy be in place, that it is adhered to, and that the 
destruction of old media be documented.
--
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Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com 
06/03/2011 09:18 AM
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+1

In addition to this excellent point, it should be noted that an 
excessively long retention period could be as bad as having too short of a 
retention period, as it opens you up to greater electronic discovery in 
the event of legal action.

Choose wisely, and work with senior management and legal counsel to 
develop the right data management policies.

Barring conflicts with regulatory requirements, I typically try to work 
towards the following:

-- Daily Backups maintained for up to 15 days
-- Weekly Backups maintained for up to 5 weeks
-- Monthly backups for up to 12-24 months
-- Annual backups for up to 2 or 3 years (optional if maintaining 24 
monthly backups)

Some systems might have more stringent retention, for example a key 
database system maintaining 30 daily and 52 weekly backups.

Whatever the configuration, it should be documented.

 
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On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 9:22 AM, N Parr npar...@mortonind.com wrote:
That's really a question for your management.  Your business type and 
other laws/guidelines will tell you how long you need to keep your data, 
the media it's put on is irrelevant.  When we were still backing up to 
tape we did a daily full backup 4 week rotation with a month end and then 
kept the year end forever.

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 8:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Tape backup policies

Hello everyone.
For those who are still backing up to tape?
What do you guys have for tape backup policies?
I?m curious as to how far back you are keeping tapes ? 1 year? 5 years?
I?ve typically seen a 10 tape rotation w/ a monthly tape put in offsite 
storage.
Is this still common practice?

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Re: Vipre/ MS Malware conflicts

2011-06-03 Thread David
In Vipre's control panel, if you go to the properties of the policy, then go
down under Agent to Communication, there is a place to disable Windows
Defender, and to incorporate Vipre into the Windows Security Center.  That
might solve at least some of your problems.

David

On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Level 5 Lists li...@levelfive.us wrote:

 We have vipre rolled out at one of our clients, its working okay, but we
 recently had to turn it from medium to low because it was severly hampering
 internet browsing. What we also found was that MS Anti-Malware was running
 on several computers and even though security center is reporting vipre is
 in control if I turn off the MS product and goto Action Center and change
 the settings Im still getting  popups on the desktops stating your system is
 not protected click Start Now …



 We are 2008r2 domain with all Win7 pro desktops. Im going to see if I can
 deploy a GPO to handle disabling MS Malware , should be easy enough but not
 positive about the security center warning pop ups ..



 This just started happening within the past 2 weeks, possibly a viper
 update issue? I know we had some issues with one of the versions but thought
 we moved past that already…





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Re: Hide windows libraries

2011-06-03 Thread Rankin, James R
My soul hasn't been quite sold to the devil yet :-0

Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerry® wireless device

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From: Webster carlwebs...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 12:25:22 
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Hide windows libraries

You are starting to sound like a conslutant! J

 

 

Webster

 

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Subject: Re: Hide windows libraries

 

I've started carrying around a portfolio of pre-built profiles from previous
jobs and using them as required. Saves all the hassle happening repeatedly.


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RE: Fake antivirus

2011-06-03 Thread John Aldrich
Yeah... these things aren't *generally* a big deal to clean.. usually either
Malware Bytes or Vipre Rescue... Never seen something that one or both
wouldn't clean. :D



From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 1:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Fake antivirus


As to tricks...  Often there is something hidden somewhere that downloads
something else.  It is this second download that gets flagged.  Meanwhile,
the original whatever is still there, so it continues to download the same
thing (or a variant). 

Since this person is a VIPRE customer, be prepared to call their support.
 Not that you can't handle it yourself with the advice given in the string,
but they may save considerable time (and may be aware of some of these
hidden process which are continuing to download infections). 

ps - perhaps a long wait time for the call, but they are very very good! 
-- 
richard 


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Rescue and Malware Bytes on a memory stick. I've also got RKILL. I haven't
had to deal with any fake antivirus in a few weeks. Just wondering if they
have developed any new tricks recently that I should be aware of?

Oh, this user had Vipre Home on his PC, and got infested anyway. Should I
submit samples to Sunbelt (assuming I can find where they're quarantined)???

Thanks!





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Re: Fake antivirus

2011-06-03 Thread David
+2, either at home or at the office.  Combofix (be careful where you get it
-- the BleepingComputer site is the most reliable), Malwarebytes, and
Vipre.  Vipre seems to take the longest to run.

David


On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.comwrote:

 +1 for combofix at home.

 -Original Message-
 From: Gene Giannamore [mailto:gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com]
 Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 12:05 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

 Had very good luck so far using combofix, Malwarebytes, and viper.
 Although 1 computer running XPsp3 is now very slow and the user does not
 want a wipe. I found combofix
 http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/combofix/how-to-use-combofix here.
 I do not follow the directions completely; I don't post the log file to
 any forum. I do, disable AV, run updated combofix, enable AV, run
 malwarebytes. If there is anything still going on, I'll do a quick scan
 with superantispyware then investigate manually (registry, running
 processes, files).

 Gene Giannamore


 -Original Message-
 From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
 Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 7:26 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Fake antivirus

 I'm going to go to a former co-worker's this afternoon to clean his
 system
 (again) from another fake antivirus infestation. I've already got Vipre
 Rescue and Malware Bytes on a memory stick. I've also got RKILL. I
 haven't
 had to deal with any fake antivirus in a few weeks. Just wondering if
 they
 have developed any new tricks recently that I should be aware of?

 Oh, this user had Vipre Home on his PC, and got infested anyway. Should
 I
 submit samples to Sunbelt (assuming I can find where they're
 quarantined)???

 Thanks!





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PowerBroker application - FOLLOW-UP Question

2011-06-03 Thread Joseph Heaton
I was just on the phone with a reseller for the Scriptlogic product, and he 
mentioned Group Policy Preferences for what I'm trying to do.  Does anyone know 
if permission elevation for installing specific software is possible through 
GPP?  How is everyone out there handling users installing specific software 
without making them local admins?

This will be a 2008R2/Win7 environment, so would request that answers be based 
on that, if possible.  What we do with older technology isn't necessarily what 
we can/will do with newer.  Also, I know about, and am looking into the 
BeyondTrust, Scriptlogic and Viewfinity products, so no need to respond with 
those options, unless you have a big selling point on any of them.

As always, I appreciate all help/advice/tips.

 Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov 5/26/2011 4:24 PM 
Has anyone used this product, from BeyondTrust?  Looks like it would be useful 
to minimize permission levels on Win 7 boxes.  We're looking at using 
Applocker, and this seems to be a good fit to go along with that, to 
automatically raise perm levels for apps in Applocker, so normal users can 
install whitelisted applications.

Any personal experiences would be most appreciated.



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Re: PowerBroker application - FOLLOW-UP Question

2011-06-03 Thread Rankin, James R
Group Policy Preferences can run as a specific user. Not sure whether software 
installation gpos come under that though.

Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerry® wireless device

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From: Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 10:50:20 
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: PowerBroker application - 
FOLLOW-UP Question

I was just on the phone with a reseller for the Scriptlogic product, and he 
mentioned Group Policy Preferences for what I'm trying to do.  Does anyone know 
if permission elevation for installing specific software is possible through 
GPP?  How is everyone out there handling users installing specific software 
without making them local admins?

This will be a 2008R2/Win7 environment, so would request that answers be based 
on that, if possible.  What we do with older technology isn't necessarily what 
we can/will do with newer.  Also, I know about, and am looking into the 
BeyondTrust, Scriptlogic and Viewfinity products, so no need to respond with 
those options, unless you have a big selling point on any of them.

As always, I appreciate all help/advice/tips.

 Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov 5/26/2011 4:24 PM 
Has anyone used this product, from BeyondTrust?  Looks like it would be useful 
to minimize permission levels on Win 7 boxes.  We're looking at using 
Applocker, and this seems to be a good fit to go along with that, to 
automatically raise perm levels for apps in Applocker, so normal users can 
install whitelisted applications.

Any personal experiences would be most appreciated.



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RE: Fake antivirus

2011-06-03 Thread Ziots, Edward
That is one of the sources of the re-directs that I have seen also
(Basically poisoning the google cache) there are others, but a lot of it
is based on video, or images. 

Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Security Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505


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Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

We've noticed a rash of these redirects specifically when doing a Google
Image search.

 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4


-Original Message-
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

John,

A lot of this Fake AV is also coming from legitmate but hacked
websites, and drive-by malware. There has been more and more sites hit
with Web application attacks, which are imbedding malicious Iframe, and
other goodies which are making links going to their malware sites and
not the link they thought they was going too.

Been seeing Fake-AV popping up as well, along with Target Phishing
attacks, and the big fun of seeing the Military and Govt Entities being
phished by the Chinese ( or so the US Govt says) just underlies how
sensitive and secret information and communications are being sent over
public email, which is pretty silly IMHO...
Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Security Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505


-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Fake antivirus

I'm going to go to a former co-worker's this afternoon to clean his
system
(again) from another fake antivirus infestation. I've already got Vipre
Rescue and Malware Bytes on a memory stick. I've also got RKILL. I
haven't
had to deal with any fake antivirus in a few weeks. Just wondering if
they
have developed any new tricks recently that I should be aware of?

Oh, this user had Vipre Home on his PC, and got infested anyway. Should
I
submit samples to Sunbelt (assuming I can find where they're
quarantined)???

Thanks!





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RE: Fake antivirus

2011-06-03 Thread Ziots, Edward
Better Yet, heck with the OS, make them learn Linux and Boot to a LiveCD
on a thumb drive..

Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Security Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505


-Original Message-
From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

Teenagers = their own crappy box to screw up + Disc Image of clean
install + parental controls, BTDT

 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4


-Original Message-
From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

Teenage (or young) users = must have parental controls!

I can't imagine how many weekends I'd have to spend rebuilding home
machines without it.


Don Guyer
Windows Systems Engineer
RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2
Enterprise Technology Group
Fiserv
don.gu...@fiserv.com
Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
Fax: 610-233-0404
www.fiserv.com

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

Thanks... This particular user is unlucky enough to have teenagers who
use
his computer. My guess is they are visiting infected/hostile/0wned sites
and
that's how he's getting infected. Never really had a problem when he was
working here, so I'm suspecting it's some of his grandkids that are
causing
the problem.

As I have not yet seen the problem, I don't know if it's going to be
easy or
difficult. Hopefully MBAM and Vipre won't have any problem with it. :D

Thanks again!



From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Fake antivirus

May be time to invest in some UAT (user awareness training). Continual
re-infestation either means he is unlucky, or gung-ho in his browsing.

I've had some fake AVs recently which were ridiculously easy to get rid
of
(kill process, delete files, remove autorun entry). Others have been
more
stealthy - such as killing targeted windows like Task Manager. Booting
into
safe mode usually prevents these extra features from bothering you.

But as with everything - a reimage may be the only way to be sure.
On 3 June 2011 15:26, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote:
I'm going to go to a former co-worker's this afternoon to clean his
system
(again) from another fake antivirus infestation. I've already got Vipre
Rescue and Malware Bytes on a memory stick. I've also got RKILL. I
haven't
had to deal with any fake antivirus in a few weeks. Just wondering if
they
have developed any new tricks recently that I should be aware of?

Oh, this user had Vipre Home on his PC, and got infested anyway. Should
I
submit samples to Sunbelt (assuming I can find where they're
quarantined)???

Thanks!





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

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into
the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not
able
rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke
such
a question.

IMPORTANT: The information in this email is CONFIDENTIAL. If its
contents
are disclosed in any way my lawyers will swoop down from black
helicopters
like Seal Team Six and drag you away with a black bag over your head.
They
will then take you to a secret prison and make you fight to the death
with
other people who dared to share this email. You will be given a large
bowie
knife and a supply of methamphetamines while I watch the said deathmatch
and
wager vast sums of money on who will be the winner. If the fight becomes
boring or there is a stalemate, I will release rabid dogs and my
two-stone
cat into the arena to liven things up a bit. If these animals become in
any
way docile, I will squirt them with water pistols until they become a
bit
more temperamental.
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RE: Fake antivirus

2011-06-03 Thread Guyer, Don
LOL!!!

H3ll, I can hardly get my Son to take out the garbage twice a week!

Don Guyer
Windows Systems Engineer
RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2
Enterprise Technology Group
Fiserv
don.gu...@fiserv.com
Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
Fax: 610-233-0404
www.fiserv.com


-Original Message-
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

Better Yet, heck with the OS, make them learn Linux and Boot to a LiveCD
on a thumb drive..

Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Security Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505


-Original Message-
From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

Teenagers = their own crappy box to screw up + Disc Image of clean
install + parental controls, BTDT

 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4


-Original Message-
From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

Teenage (or young) users = must have parental controls!

I can't imagine how many weekends I'd have to spend rebuilding home
machines without it.


Don Guyer
Windows Systems Engineer
RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2
Enterprise Technology Group
Fiserv
don.gu...@fiserv.com
Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
Fax: 610-233-0404
www.fiserv.com

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

Thanks... This particular user is unlucky enough to have teenagers who
use
his computer. My guess is they are visiting infected/hostile/0wned sites
and
that's how he's getting infected. Never really had a problem when he was
working here, so I'm suspecting it's some of his grandkids that are
causing
the problem.

As I have not yet seen the problem, I don't know if it's going to be
easy or
difficult. Hopefully MBAM and Vipre won't have any problem with it. :D

Thanks again!



From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Fake antivirus

May be time to invest in some UAT (user awareness training). Continual
re-infestation either means he is unlucky, or gung-ho in his browsing.

I've had some fake AVs recently which were ridiculously easy to get rid
of
(kill process, delete files, remove autorun entry). Others have been
more
stealthy - such as killing targeted windows like Task Manager. Booting
into
safe mode usually prevents these extra features from bothering you.

But as with everything - a reimage may be the only way to be sure.
On 3 June 2011 15:26, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote:
I'm going to go to a former co-worker's this afternoon to clean his
system
(again) from another fake antivirus infestation. I've already got Vipre
Rescue and Malware Bytes on a memory stick. I've also got RKILL. I
haven't
had to deal with any fake antivirus in a few weeks. Just wondering if
they
have developed any new tricks recently that I should be aware of?

Oh, this user had Vipre Home on his PC, and got infested anyway. Should
I
submit samples to Sunbelt (assuming I can find where they're
quarantined)???

Thanks!





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

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--
On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put
into
the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not
able
rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke
such
a question.

IMPORTANT: The information in this email is CONFIDENTIAL. If its
contents
are disclosed in any way my lawyers will swoop down from black
helicopters
like Seal Team Six and drag you away with a black bag over your head.
They
will then take you to a secret prison and make you fight to the death
with
other people who dared to share this email. You will be given a large
bowie
knife and a supply of methamphetamines while I watch the said deathmatch
and
wager vast sums of money on who will be the winner. If the fight becomes
boring or there is a stalemate, I will release rabid dogs and my
two-stone
cat into the arena to liven things up a bit. If these animals become in
any
way docile, I will squirt them with water pistols until they become a
bit
more temperamental.
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ 

RE: Fake antivirus

2011-06-03 Thread John Aldrich
:D I like that!




-Original Message-
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

Better Yet, heck with the OS, make them learn Linux and Boot to a LiveCD
on a thumb drive..

Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Security Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505


-Original Message-
From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

Teenagers = their own crappy box to screw up + Disc Image of clean
install + parental controls, BTDT

 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4


-Original Message-
From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

Teenage (or young) users = must have parental controls!

I can't imagine how many weekends I'd have to spend rebuilding home
machines without it.


Don Guyer
Windows Systems Engineer
RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2
Enterprise Technology Group
Fiserv
don.gu...@fiserv.com
Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
Fax: 610-233-0404
www.fiserv.com

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

Thanks... This particular user is unlucky enough to have teenagers who
use
his computer. My guess is they are visiting infected/hostile/0wned sites
and
that's how he's getting infected. Never really had a problem when he was
working here, so I'm suspecting it's some of his grandkids that are
causing
the problem.

As I have not yet seen the problem, I don't know if it's going to be
easy or
difficult. Hopefully MBAM and Vipre won't have any problem with it. :D

Thanks again!



From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Fake antivirus

May be time to invest in some UAT (user awareness training). Continual
re-infestation either means he is unlucky, or gung-ho in his browsing.

I've had some fake AVs recently which were ridiculously easy to get rid
of
(kill process, delete files, remove autorun entry). Others have been
more
stealthy - such as killing targeted windows like Task Manager. Booting
into
safe mode usually prevents these extra features from bothering you.

But as with everything - a reimage may be the only way to be sure.
On 3 June 2011 15:26, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote:
I'm going to go to a former co-worker's this afternoon to clean his
system
(again) from another fake antivirus infestation. I've already got Vipre
Rescue and Malware Bytes on a memory stick. I've also got RKILL. I
haven't
had to deal with any fake antivirus in a few weeks. Just wondering if
they
have developed any new tricks recently that I should be aware of?

Oh, this user had Vipre Home on his PC, and got infested anyway. Should
I
submit samples to Sunbelt (assuming I can find where they're
quarantined)???

Thanks!





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

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--
On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put
into
the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not
able
rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke
such
a question.

IMPORTANT: The information in this email is CONFIDENTIAL. If its
contents
are disclosed in any way my lawyers will swoop down from black
helicopters
like Seal Team Six and drag you away with a black bag over your head.
They
will then take you to a secret prison and make you fight to the death
with
other people who dared to share this email. You will be given a large
bowie
knife and a supply of methamphetamines while I watch the said deathmatch
and
wager vast sums of money on who will be the winner. If the fight becomes
boring or there is a stalemate, I will release rabid dogs and my
two-stone
cat into the arena to liven things up a bit. If these animals become in
any
way docile, I will squirt them with water pistols until they become a
bit
more temperamental.
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RE: Fake antivirus

2011-06-03 Thread Ziots, Edward
LOL don't make me get all military and come down there and show you how
to put him on KP duty. He will think choices are a god-send compared to
that. 

Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Security Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505


-Original Message-
From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 2:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

LOL!!!

H3ll, I can hardly get my Son to take out the garbage twice a week!

Don Guyer
Windows Systems Engineer
RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2
Enterprise Technology Group
Fiserv
don.gu...@fiserv.com
Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
Fax: 610-233-0404
www.fiserv.com


-Original Message-
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

Better Yet, heck with the OS, make them learn Linux and Boot to a LiveCD
on a thumb drive..

Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Security Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505


-Original Message-
From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

Teenagers = their own crappy box to screw up + Disc Image of clean
install + parental controls, BTDT

 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4


-Original Message-
From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

Teenage (or young) users = must have parental controls!

I can't imagine how many weekends I'd have to spend rebuilding home
machines without it.


Don Guyer
Windows Systems Engineer
RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2
Enterprise Technology Group
Fiserv
don.gu...@fiserv.com
Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
Fax: 610-233-0404
www.fiserv.com

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

Thanks... This particular user is unlucky enough to have teenagers who
use
his computer. My guess is they are visiting infected/hostile/0wned sites
and
that's how he's getting infected. Never really had a problem when he was
working here, so I'm suspecting it's some of his grandkids that are
causing
the problem.

As I have not yet seen the problem, I don't know if it's going to be
easy or
difficult. Hopefully MBAM and Vipre won't have any problem with it. :D

Thanks again!



From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Fake antivirus

May be time to invest in some UAT (user awareness training). Continual
re-infestation either means he is unlucky, or gung-ho in his browsing.

I've had some fake AVs recently which were ridiculously easy to get rid
of
(kill process, delete files, remove autorun entry). Others have been
more
stealthy - such as killing targeted windows like Task Manager. Booting
into
safe mode usually prevents these extra features from bothering you.

But as with everything - a reimage may be the only way to be sure.
On 3 June 2011 15:26, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote:
I'm going to go to a former co-worker's this afternoon to clean his
system
(again) from another fake antivirus infestation. I've already got Vipre
Rescue and Malware Bytes on a memory stick. I've also got RKILL. I
haven't
had to deal with any fake antivirus in a few weeks. Just wondering if
they
have developed any new tricks recently that I should be aware of?

Oh, this user had Vipre Home on his PC, and got infested anyway. Should
I
submit samples to Sunbelt (assuming I can find where they're
quarantined)???

Thanks!





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

---
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http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
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--
On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put
into
the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not
able
rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke
such
a question.

IMPORTANT: The information in this email is CONFIDENTIAL. If its
contents
are disclosed in any way my lawyers will swoop down from black
helicopters
like Seal Team Six and drag you away with a black bag over your head.
They
will then take you to a secret prison and make you fight to the death
with
other people who dared to share this email. You will be given a large
bowie
knife and a supply of 

RE: Hide windows libraries

2011-06-03 Thread Sam Cayze
I hear ya.

 

I think it would be great for MS to redesign so that FAV folders stayed
PINNED to the window so they were always avail  I shouldn't have to scroll
up each time to find them.  I mean, they are FAVORITES, shouldn't they
always be accessible, isn't that the point?

 

Rant over :)

 

 

 

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 11:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hide windows libraries

 

I *love* the recent places feature...

 

To me, the reverse of the problem you mention is worse.  Much worse.


 

ASB (Professional Bio http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio ) 
Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market...

 





On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com wrote:

Since we are the subject, is there any way for explorer to NOT remember the
last folder where I saved something?

Sometimes I save something very deep in the network. so that the next time I
want to save something, to the desktop, I have to scroll ALL the way to the
top to find desktop.

PITA.

 

Sam

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 11:47 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Hide windows libraries

 

NOTE:  If you have x64 there is one more step needed to remove them from the
'Open/Save As' dialog boxes as well.

 

Otherwise you are only removing them from Explorer.

 

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/35627-libraries-folder-add-remove-navig
ation-pane.html

 

In short:

 

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{031E4825-7B94-4dc3-B131-E946B44C8DD5}\ShellFolder

To b090010d

 

AND

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Classes\CLSID\{031E4825-7B94-4dc3-B1
31-E946B44C8DD5}\ShellFolder

To b090010d

 

 

 

-Sam

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hide windows libraries

 

I've started carrying around a portfolio of pre-built profiles from previous
jobs and using them as required. Saves all the hassle happening repeatedly.

On 3 June 2011 16:30, Mayo, Bill bem...@pittcountync.gov wrote:

Agreed.  These things are particularly irritating when you are trying to
create a locked-down profile.

 

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 11:10 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hide windows libraries

 

I think that it is high time MS gave us some GPOs to manage libraries. There
will be many Win7 / 2008 R2 RDS deployments starting and we all know users
who can't cope when something changes. Reg key hacks and stripping perms
with subinacl really isn't a good way to be managing these sort of
modifications to a new desktop environment, IMHO.

On 3 June 2011 15:58, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote:

Thanks, another option.  I was able to use the original key below after
modifying the perms for the key's subfolder, as suggested by James.  I was
using this link (left Favorites, hid Libraries):

 

http://www.petri.co.il/remove-libraries-and-favorites-from-windows-explorer.
htm

 John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org 6/3/2011 10:50 AM 

That would be the one!

 

 John W. Cook

System Administrator

Partnership For Strong Families

5950 NW 1st Place

Gainesville, Fl 32607

Office (352) 244-1610 tel:%28352%29%20244-1610 

Cell (352) 215-6944 tel:%28352%29%20215-6944 

MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

 

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hide windows libraries

 

Something like these?

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/21462/how-to-enable-or-disable-the-libraries-
feature-in-windows-7/

On 3 June 2011 15:37, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:

I found a blog (don't remember where at the moment) that had 2 simple
scripts that would either disable or reenable Libraries. Simple double click
and it was done.  

 

 John W. Cook

System Administrator

Partnership For Strong Families

5950 NW 1st Place

Gainesville, Fl 32607

Office (352) 244-1610 tel:%28352%29%20244-1610 

Cell (352) 215-6944 tel:%28352%29%20215-6944 

MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

 

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:32 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hide windows libraries

 

I didn't have to do it on mine, I admit.

On 3 June 2011 15:30, Guyer, Don don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote:

If it's a Computer GPO, is it even necessary to modify perms?

 

When I Googled real quick, I didn't see any info regarding having to change
perms.

 

Just curious, cuz I may have to do this in the future.

 

J

 

Don Guyer

Windows Systems Engineer

RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2

Enterprise Technology Group

Fiserv

don.gu...@fiserv.com

Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 tel:1-800-523-7282%20x%201673 

Fax: 610-233-0404

 http://www.fiserv.com/ www.fiserv.com

 

From: James Rankin 

RE: Fake antivirus

2011-06-03 Thread Tammy Stewart
If it is the fake AV/HDD tool that hides all the files/folders  moves the
shortcuts to %temp% combofix is not recommended because one of the things
combofix does is empty out all temp folders which is where the start menu
icons are.

 

Regards,

 

Tammy

 

  _  

From: David [mailto:blazer...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 1:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Fake antivirus

 

+2, either at home or at the office.  Combofix (be careful where you get it
-- the BleepingComputer site is the most reliable), Malwarebytes, and Vipre.
Vipre seems to take the longest to run.

David



On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com
wrote:

+1 for combofix at home.


-Original Message-
From: Gene Giannamore [mailto:gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 12:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

Had very good luck so far using combofix, Malwarebytes, and viper.
Although 1 computer running XPsp3 is now very slow and the user does not
want a wipe. I found combofix
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/combofix/how-to-use-combofix here.
I do not follow the directions completely; I don't post the log file to
any forum. I do, disable AV, run updated combofix, enable AV, run
malwarebytes. If there is anything still going on, I'll do a quick scan
with superantispyware then investigate manually (registry, running
processes, files).

Gene Giannamore


-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 7:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Fake antivirus

I'm going to go to a former co-worker's this afternoon to clean his
system
(again) from another fake antivirus infestation. I've already got Vipre
Rescue and Malware Bytes on a memory stick. I've also got RKILL. I
haven't
had to deal with any fake antivirus in a few weeks. Just wondering if
they
have developed any new tricks recently that I should be aware of?

Oh, this user had Vipre Home on his PC, and got infested anyway. Should
I
submit samples to Sunbelt (assuming I can find where they're
quarantined)???

Thanks!





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Re: Fake antivirus

2011-06-03 Thread David
So beyond Vipre, what other rescue tools would you recommend, Tammy?

Dave


On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Tammy Stewart copper...@personainternet.com
 wrote:

  If it is the fake AV/HDD tool that hides all the files/folders  moves
 the shortcuts to %temp% combofix is not recommended because one of the
 things combofix does is empty out all temp folders which is where the start
 menu icons are.



 Regards,



 Tammy


  --

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 *Sent:* Friday, June 03, 2011 1:50 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Fake antivirus



 +2, either at home or at the office.  Combofix (be careful where you get it
 -- the BleepingComputer site is the most reliable), Malwarebytes, and
 Vipre.  Vipre seems to take the longest to run.

 David

  On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com
 wrote:

 +1 for combofix at home.


 -Original Message-
 From: Gene Giannamore [mailto:gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com]
 Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 12:05 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues

 Subject: RE: Fake antivirus

 Had very good luck so far using combofix, Malwarebytes, and viper.
 Although 1 computer running XPsp3 is now very slow and the user does not
 want a wipe. I found combofix
 http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/combofix/how-to-use-combofix here.
 I do not follow the directions completely; I don't post the log file to
 any forum. I do, disable AV, run updated combofix, enable AV, run
 malwarebytes. If there is anything still going on, I'll do a quick scan
 with superantispyware then investigate manually (registry, running
 processes, files).

 Gene Giannamore


 -Original Message-
 From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
 Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 7:26 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Fake antivirus

 I'm going to go to a former co-worker's this afternoon to clean his
 system
 (again) from another fake antivirus infestation. I've already got Vipre
 Rescue and Malware Bytes on a memory stick. I've also got RKILL. I
 haven't
 had to deal with any fake antivirus in a few weeks. Just wondering if
 they
 have developed any new tricks recently that I should be aware of?

 Oh, this user had Vipre Home on his PC, and got infested anyway. Should
 I
 submit samples to Sunbelt (assuming I can find where they're
 quarantined)???

 Thanks!





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Re: Tape backup policies

2011-06-03 Thread Devin Meade
We have a data retention policy driven by lawyers.  Our offsite backups are
tape via Disk-to-Disk-to-Tape.  These tapes are explicitly NOT to be used
for long term retention, ie our tapes are rotated in about a year.  Our
policy drives what is kept long term and short term.  Where they are kept
doesn't matter but we have a separate fileshare with Permanent Archives
and Interim Archives.  The perm archives are kept indefinitely (pretty
much construction drawings only).  Our Interems are kept for various
timeframes based on type - with a max of 5 years ... then they get deleted.
FYI We are considering some online backup systems for offsite DR but we need
more work to pay for it.
hth, Devin

On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 8:12 AM, David Mazzaccaro 
david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com wrote:

  Hello everyone.

 For those who are still backing up to tape…

 What do you guys have for tape backup policies?

 I’m curious as to how far back you are keeping tapes – 1 year? 5 years?

 I’ve typically seen a 10 tape rotation w/ a monthly tape put in 
 offsitestorage.

 Is this still common practice?

 .

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Re: Fake antivirus

2011-06-03 Thread John Aldrich
Ok. I'm on-site. I don't see the fake antivirus. I did find and  
disable a coupon toolbar (damn those things are tough to disable!) I  
don't have access to the add/remove programs because when I open  
that up, there's nothing there. I'm running a MBAM scan right now. I  
don't have a lot of time to stay on-site as I have to head out shortly.


Wondering if anyone knows what might cause the Add/Remove Programs to  
show up as empty? This is on XP Media Center, FWIW. Antivirus is Vipre  
Home, version 4.0.4194.



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RE: Tape backup policies

2011-06-03 Thread David Lum
Why not do a one-time restore of really old backups to your newer backup 
medium? That way you can always use your current SW for a restore from any time 
frame. 

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Mike Leone [mailto:oozerd...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 9:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Tape backup policies

On 6/3/2011 9:53 AM, richardmccl...@aspca.org wrote:
 
 Here is something I don't recall being discussed...
 
 LTO1 may be read by an LTO3 drive.  Our LTO3 tapes supposedly can be
 read by our new LTO5 drive...
 
 What I'm getting at is, keeping forever may require moth-balling
 machines so they can be read if necessary

Or drives .. I have a stand-alone SDLT320 and stand-alone SDLT600 tape
drive, attached to a server other than my current backup server,
specifically for the reason of reading old tapes.

It becomes more aggravating when I need an old ArcServe tape, instead of
more current Networker. That's why I have a separate machine that is a
Networker storage ndoe, that also has ArcServe installed on it. So I can
start whichever backup program I need, to do restores.

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Re: Previous Version snapshots causing locked files

2011-06-03 Thread Robert Cato
Is this file server underlying location on a SAN? If so, what brand?

Robert

On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 3:48 AM, Oliver Marshall 
oliver.marsh...@g2support.com wrote:

 Hi chaps,



 One one of our servers some people are reporting problems with files being
 locked “by another user” during the time of the daily previous version
 snapshots.



 This only appears to happen on a small number of spreadsheets (3 so far)
 out of tens of thousands of files across hundreds of users here. Those 3
 files are in a folder on our main 2003 64 bit file server.



 I’m not aware of the previous version feature causing file lockouts, but it
 does appear to be related. If we change the time of the snapshots in windows
 then the locked file issues change time as well. Keep retrying to between 1
 to 15 mins and it goes away.



 Anyone seen this before? Any idea why it would be only a few files out of
 so many on the same server?



 Olly

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Re: Tape backup policies

2011-06-03 Thread Devin Meade
David,

This is why we moved to online archives only.  It requires more disk space
and periodic review, but disk space is cheap and so is my time!  We had DDS1
tapes written in Palindrome Network Archivist, some from the late 80's or
so, we had DDS2, DDS3, DDS4, DLTIV, DLT S320 and now DLTS4.  We even had
some archive CD's that could not be read, lucky we had offsite copies of the
CD's which were readable.  I guess I can't store them on my dashboard :-).

On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 4:32 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:

 Why not do a one-time restore of really old backups to your newer backup
 medium? That way you can always use your current SW for a restore from any
 time frame.

 Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Leone [mailto:oozerd...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 9:25 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Tape backup policies

 On 6/3/2011 9:53 AM, richardmccl...@aspca.org wrote:
 
  Here is something I don't recall being discussed...
 
  LTO1 may be read by an LTO3 drive.  Our LTO3 tapes supposedly can be
  read by our new LTO5 drive...
 
  What I'm getting at is, keeping forever may require moth-balling
  machines so they can be read if necessary

 Or drives .. I have a stand-alone SDLT320 and stand-alone SDLT600 tape
 drive, attached to a server other than my current backup server,
 specifically for the reason of reading old tapes.

 It becomes more aggravating when I need an old ArcServe tape, instead of
 more current Networker. That's why I have a separate machine that is a
 Networker storage ndoe, that also has ArcServe installed on it. So I can
 start whichever backup program I need, to do restores.

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RE: RE: Fake antivirus

2011-06-03 Thread Tammy Stewart
Hi Johnathan  all,

 

Sorry - been a busy one today.

 

Based on what we all have found, this has been working quite well as long as
the temps have not been emptied out:

 

If the rogue is still running  nothing is seeing it normally it will be
found: (where random.exe is a random name executable) Normally 2 of them.

 

XP:

C:\documents and settings\all users\application data\random.exe

 

Vista\Windows7:

C:\programdata\random.exe 

 

One will be a random set of numbers  the other will be a random set of
upper/lower letters.

 

Taskkill /im filename /f 

Works well then rename the extensions so they don't load again or delete
files.

 

This should get most if not all the shortcuts back and unhide everything it
hid. (it will also end up unhiding windows patch install directories 
application data folders)

 

 

http://supportforums.sunbeltsoftware.com/messageview.aspx?catid=76
http://supportforums.sunbeltsoftware.com/messageview.aspx?catid=76threadid
=7944enterthread=y threadid=7944enterthread=y

 

There will be some additional registry stuff that needs fixing to repair
some IE settings that can leave the system vulnerable to getting hit again.

 

Additional info here: (reg/file info at bottom of page)

 

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/virus-removal/remove-windows-recovery

 

Regards,

 

Tammy

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From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 12:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: RE: Fake antivirus

 

Tammy,

I ran into one a few weeks back that hid files and folders like what you
described. I think I reversed everything it did, but is there any other info
that you can share with the group aside from what you've posted here?

Thanks,

Jonathan A+, MCSA, MCSE

Thumb-typed from my HTC Droid Incredible (and yes, it really is) on the
Verizon network. Please excuse brevity and any misspellings.

On Jun 3, 2011 10:43 AM, Tammy Stewart copper...@personainternet.com
wrote:
 Hi John,
 
 If you can get the fake AV's name -- I can likely shoot you some info.
 There is a new(ish) one on the block that hides files, folders, shortcuts
 and such. (windows recovery)
 If that is what you see -- let me know. We have a restore procedure to
 restore the hidden/moved files.
 Also don't nuke the temps [yet] because that is where all the shortcuts
are.
 
 If MBAM quarantines it -- the quarantine is normally located here:
(depends
 on OS)
 
 c:\documents and settings\USER_WHO_SCANNED\application
 data\malwarebytes\malwarebyte's antimalware\quarantine -- that dir has
both
 the logs  the quarantined items (xp/2k/2k3)
 
 C:\Users\USER_WHO_SCANNED\AppData\Roaming\Malwarebytes\Malwarebytes'
 Anti-Malware\quarantine (vista/win7/win2k8)
 
 Please upload anything MBAM quarantines to us.
 
 http://www.sunbeltsecurity.com/threat
 
 Thanks John,
 
 Tammy
 
 -Original Message-
 From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
 Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:26 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Fake antivirus
 
 I'm going to go to a former co-worker's this afternoon to clean his system
 (again) from another fake antivirus infestation. I've already got Vipre
 Rescue and Malware Bytes on a memory stick. I've also got RKILL. I haven't
 had to deal with any fake antivirus in a few weeks. Just wondering if they
 have developed any new tricks recently that I should be aware of?
 
 Oh, this user had Vipre Home on his PC, and got infested anyway. Should I
 submit samples to Sunbelt (assuming I can find where they're
quarantined)???
 
 Thanks!
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Fake antivirus

2011-06-03 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 3 Jun 2011 at 10:34, John Aldrich wrote:  

 Thanks... This particular user is unlucky enough to have teenagers who
 use his computer. My guess is they are visiting infected/hostile/0wned
 sites and that's how he's getting infected. Never really had a problem
 when he was working here, so I'm suspecting it's some of his grandkids
 that are causing the problem. 

Have him either get the kids their own computer or set up a VirtualBox for 
them to run in his computer.  That way they'll only trash their own stuff.



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Re: from Cornelia

2011-06-03 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 2 Jun 2011 at 15:44, Stu Sjouwerman wrote:

 Will Kill.

Been seeing spam here regularly, 1-5 msgs/week.  Not Good.

Do you have a Captcha in your subscribe mechanism?


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RE: Vipre/ MS Malware conflicts

2011-06-03 Thread Level 5 Lists
Thanks dave we did that during the install of viper many months ago. In 
security center it shows viper is registered for virus and spyware, which is 
why we are confused as to why ms malware is complaining and running in 
automatic.

From: David [mailto:blazer...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 1:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Vipre/ MS Malware conflicts

In Vipre's control panel, if you go to the properties of the policy, then go 
down under Agent to Communication, there is a place to disable Windows 
Defender, and to incorporate Vipre into the Windows Security Center.  That 
might solve at least some of your problems.

David
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Level 5 Lists 
li...@levelfive.usmailto:li...@levelfive.us wrote:
We have vipre rolled out at one of our clients, its working okay, but we 
recently had to turn it from medium to low because it was severly hampering 
internet browsing. What we also found was that MS Anti-Malware was running on 
several computers and even though security center is reporting vipre is in 
control if I turn off the MS product and goto Action Center and change the 
settings Im still getting  popups on the desktops stating your system is not 
protected click Start Now ...

We are 2008r2 domain with all Win7 pro desktops. Im going to see if I can 
deploy a GPO to handle disabling MS Malware , should be easy enough but not 
positive about the security center warning pop ups ..

This just started happening within the past 2 weeks, possibly a viper update 
issue? I know we had some issues with one of the versions but thought we moved 
past that already...



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RE: Fake antivirus

2011-06-03 Thread Level 5 Lists
What about using open dns for a few bucks a year ? you can turn on simple 
blocking of known malware sites and a few other things and keep it pretty clean.

-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 8:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Fake antivirus

On 3 Jun 2011 at 10:34, John Aldrich wrote:  

 Thanks... This particular user is unlucky enough to have teenagers who 
 use his computer. My guess is they are visiting infected/hostile/0wned 
 sites and that's how he's getting infected. Never really had a problem 
 when he was working here, so I'm suspecting it's some of his grandkids 
 that are causing the problem.

Have him either get the kids their own computer or set up a VirtualBox for them 
to run in his computer.  That way they'll only trash their own stuff.



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RE: Vipre/ MS Malware conflicts

2011-06-03 Thread David
I would call Vipre support, they've always been eager to help.

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On Jun 3, 2011 5:34 PM, Level 5 Lists li...@levelfive.us wrote:
 Thanks dave we did that during the install of viper many months ago. In
security center it shows viper is registered for virus and spyware, which is
why we are confused as to why ms malware is complaining and running in
automatic.

 From: David [mailto:blazer...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 1:43 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Vipre/ MS Malware conflicts

 In Vipre's control panel, if you go to the properties of the policy, then
go down under Agent to Communication, there is a place to disable Windows
Defender, and to incorporate Vipre into the Windows Security Center. That
might solve at least some of your problems.

 David
 On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Level 5 Lists li...@levelfive.usmailto:
li...@levelfive.us wrote:
 We have vipre rolled out at one of our clients, its working okay, but we
recently had to turn it from medium to low because it was severly hampering
internet browsing. What we also found was that MS Anti-Malware was running
on several computers and even though security center is reporting vipre is
in control if I turn off the MS product and goto Action Center and change
the settings Im still getting popups on the desktops stating your system is
not protected click Start Now ...

 We are 2008r2 domain with all Win7 pro desktops. Im going to see if I can
deploy a GPO to handle disabling MS Malware , should be easy enough but not
positive about the security center warning pop ups ..

 This just started happening within the past 2 weeks, possibly a viper
update issue? I know we had some issues with one of the versions but thought
we moved past that already...



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