Re: Drive mapping via login script
So far, I have yet to find out where the script doesn't work. I still have scripts that use this and work (although I've implemented GPP for other things) * * *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 7:05 PM, James Hill j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au wrote: Or they might not have investigated GPP so aren’t fully aware of the benefits. ** ** In this case a script doesn’t work so perhaps it is a good time for change. ** ** *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, 9 August 2011 8:00 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Drive mapping via login script ** ** People might already have logon scripts that work, and a lack of time to change them. Not saying that change isn't good, but priorities might not favor *that* particular change at this time. *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…* On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 5:33 PM, James Hill j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au wrote: Group Policy Preferences. Apart from things that can’t be done by GPP I don’t know why anyone with access to GPP would still use a logon script. GPP is much easier develop and maintain and if you use security groups etc it is much easier for support staff to make changes. They don’t have to have any scripting skills. *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, 9 August 2011 12:09 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Drive mapping via login script We use regular .BAT files here for drive mappings, but this doesn't work for group-based mappings. In my past life I have used KiXtart which I suppose can implement here easily enough (been 3 years since I really toyed with it though). I have done some testing of mapping via GPO and it seems to add a bit of time to the login. What do you guys use? *David Lum* Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Kace K1000 System Management Appliance
Patching will be a big part of this, but we also use the reporting to find what is installed and versions. Our procurement department is also wanting us to find a product to report on licensing for current apps so we make sure we stay compliant. From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 5:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Kace K1000 System Management Appliance We've had a couple demo's of Kace and are looking to move that direction. Which features are you looking to leverage - patching? Dave From: Senter, John [mailto:john.sen...@etrade.com] Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 7:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Kace K1000 System Management Appliance Wanting to see if anyone in this group has experience with the Kace/Dell K1000 Sys Mgmt appliance. We currently use the Bigfix product for this, but since the IBM acquisition we are looking to see what else is available. After seeing a demo of Kace last week it looks promising. So has anyone here moved from Bigfix to Kace. If not, anyone have any experience with Kace to give some insight. Thanks ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: OT: PMI PMP Certification
Good luck John, Up here at SANS Boston, its a lot of fun doing packet inspection and decoding, every interesting stuff J Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 8:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: PMI PMP Certification Just a quick update, because I know y'all have been on the edge of your collective seats in anticipation. My application was approved, and not selected for audit. Woot. So I'm scheduled to take the exam on the 29th. I have to go to an out-of-town testing center because the look one is all booked up. Looks like everyone is trying to take it before the 31st. Now to keep on studying... John From: john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 14:13:32 -0400 Subject: OT: PMI PMP Certification I was wondering if there were any certified PMPs out there that could give me pointers on the exam. I had planned on taking it in around two months, but I just caught wind of the fact PMI is changing it on August 31. So now I'm cramming to see if I can get it done before the change. I took two project management courses in grad school pretty recently, and am currently reading a couple of PMP study guides. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.jpg
RE: Kace K1000 System Management Appliance
Patching is super easy in KBox. I spent about a day creating PC/server groups (tied to AD/ldap or IP - your preference), then another day creating my various patch groups. Since then (about a year) I've modified the patch groups maybe once or twice. Once you create the PC groups, the patch groups, and schedule the patches, that's pretty much it. Very easy, and excellent reporting. Using SCCM, patching was equally granular as the KBox, but I hated having to spend time to clean up my patch lists. I have not used SCCM in a year, so perhaps this has changed. There is a metering component that you might find useful. Or reports do the same thing. If it matters, I've found Kace/Dell support to be excellent, better than most vendors I've worked with. If you need something and can't figure it out, the support guys will give you a hand. We didn't have any SCCM support, since we purchased it with non-profit/charity licensing. Tom Senter, John john.sen...@etrade.com 8/9/2011 7:56 AM Patching will be a big part of this, but we also use the reporting to find what is installed and versions. Our procurement department is also wanting us to find a product to report on licensing for current apps so we make sure we stay compliant. From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 5:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Kace K1000 System Management Appliance We’ve had a couple demo’s of Kace and are looking to move that direction. Which features are you looking to leverage – patching? Dave From: Senter, John [mailto:john.sen...@etrade.com] Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 7:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Kace K1000 System Management Appliance Wanting to see if anyone in this group has experience with the Kace/Dell K1000 Sys Mgmt appliance. We currently use the Bigfix product for this, but since the IBM acquisition we are looking to see what else is available. After seeing a demo of Kace last week it looks promising. So has anyone here moved from Bigfix to Kace. If not, anyone have any experience with Kace to give some insight. Thanks ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Kace K1000 System Management Appliance
Cool. We have Shavlik for patching but are looking at Kace to help with our move to Win7, let us know who has the oldest machines and should get upgraded next, and software license compliance. From: Senter, John [mailto:john.sen...@etrade.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 4:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Kace K1000 System Management Appliance Patching will be a big part of this, but we also use the reporting to find what is installed and versions. Our procurement department is also wanting us to find a product to report on licensing for current apps so we make sure we stay compliant. From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 5:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Kace K1000 System Management Appliance We've had a couple demo's of Kace and are looking to move that direction. Which features are you looking to leverage - patching? Dave From: Senter, John [mailto:john.sen...@etrade.com] Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 7:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Kace K1000 System Management Appliance Wanting to see if anyone in this group has experience with the Kace/Dell K1000 Sys Mgmt appliance. We currently use the Bigfix product for this, but since the IBM acquisition we are looking to see what else is available. After seeing a demo of Kace last week it looks promising. So has anyone here moved from Bigfix to Kace. If not, anyone have any experience with Kace to give some insight. Thanks ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Drive mapping via login script
Nothing is broken, but we don't have any mappings assigned based on group membership currently so IMO it's not scalable. I wanted to get a feel for what others are doing and not change something to later hear hey Lum, you should have asked and not gone down that path If all I need to do is add IFMEMBER functionality then that's the path of least resistance, easily done and looks like a viable option. GPP also looks doable and has some cool factor to it though... Oddly, it's usually paths of least resistance I usually have the biggest doubts about: sure I can do that, but how does that scale, or work flexibility-wise when a change or audit needs to happen? is usually my next question. Putting a user name on a folder ACL instead of creating a group and adding a user to said group and assigning the group is the model I generally reference. Easy to do the former if you have 10 people and a couple of folders you want to manage, no so good if you have 500 users and 50+ different folder ACL's. I appreciate everyone's input! Dave From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net] Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 3:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Drive mapping via login script We use .bat files and if member. So what doesn't work? From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 7:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Drive mapping via login script Group policy preferences or AppSense. Never seen any heavy logon lag as a result of either. Sent from my POS BlackBerry wireless device, which may wipe itself at any moment From: Cameron cameron.orl...@gmail.commailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 10:48:21 -0400 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Drive mapping via login script I use Kix for all my drive mapping (mostly group-based) here. On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 10:09 AM, David Lum david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org wrote: We use regular .BAT files here for drive mappings, but this doesn't work for group-based mappings. In my past life I have used KiXtart which I suppose can implement here easily enough (been 3 years since I really toyed with it though). I have done some testing of mapping via GPO and it seems to add a bit of time to the login. What do you guys use? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229tel:503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764tel:503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Kace K1000 System Management Appliance
If you’re looking for good metering/licensing, throw AppClarity into the mix… http://www.1e.com/software/appclarity/ From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 8:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Kace K1000 System Management Appliance Patching is super easy in KBox. I spent about a day creating PC/server groups (tied to AD/ldap or IP - your preference), then another day creating my various patch groups. Since then (about a year) I've modified the patch groups maybe once or twice. Once you create the PC groups, the patch groups, and schedule the patches, that's pretty much it. Very easy, and excellent reporting. Using SCCM, patching was equally granular as the KBox, but I hated having to spend time to clean up my patch lists. I have not used SCCM in a year, so perhaps this has changed. There is a metering component that you might find useful. Or reports do the same thing. If it matters, I've found Kace/Dell support to be excellent, better than most vendors I've worked with. If you need something and can't figure it out, the support guys will give you a hand. We didn't have any SCCM support, since we purchased it with non-profit/charity licensing. Tom Senter, John john.sen...@etrade.com 8/9/2011 7:56 AM Patching will be a big part of this, but we also use the reporting to find what is installed and versions. Our procurement department is also wanting us to find a product to report on licensing for current apps so we make sure we stay compliant. From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 5:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Kace K1000 System Management Appliance We’ve had a couple demo’s of Kace and are looking to move that direction. Which features are you looking to leverage – patching? Dave From: Senter, John [mailto:john.sen...@etrade.com] Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 7:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Kace K1000 System Management Appliance Wanting to see if anyone in this group has experience with the Kace/Dell K1000 Sys Mgmt appliance. We currently use the Bigfix product for this, but since the IBM acquisition we are looking to see what else is available. After seeing a demo of Kace last week it looks promising. So has anyone here moved from Bigfix to Kace. If not, anyone have any experience with Kace to give some insight. Thanks ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Kace K1000 System Management Appliance
We are also going to review LanDesk, so if anyone has insight on that it would be very useful. From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 8:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Kace K1000 System Management Appliance Patching is super easy in KBox. I spent about a day creating PC/server groups (tied to AD/ldap or IP - your preference), then another day creating my various patch groups. Since then (about a year) I've modified the patch groups maybe once or twice. Once you create the PC groups, the patch groups, and schedule the patches, that's pretty much it. Very easy, and excellent reporting. Using SCCM, patching was equally granular as the KBox, but I hated having to spend time to clean up my patch lists. I have not used SCCM in a year, so perhaps this has changed. There is a metering component that you might find useful. Or reports do the same thing. If it matters, I've found Kace/Dell support to be excellent, better than most vendors I've worked with. If you need something and can't figure it out, the support guys will give you a hand. We didn't have any SCCM support, since we purchased it with non-profit/charity licensing. Tom Senter, John john.sen...@etrade.commailto:john.sen...@etrade.com 8/9/2011 7:56 AM Patching will be a big part of this, but we also use the reporting to find what is installed and versions. Our procurement department is also wanting us to find a product to report on licensing for current apps so we make sure we stay compliant. From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 5:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Kace K1000 System Management Appliance We’ve had a couple demo’s of Kace and are looking to move that direction. Which features are you looking to leverage – patching? Dave From: Senter, John [mailto:john.sen...@etrade.com] Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 7:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Kace K1000 System Management Appliance Wanting to see if anyone in this group has experience with the Kace/Dell K1000 Sys Mgmt appliance. We currently use the Bigfix product for this, but since the IBM acquisition we are looking to see what else is available. After seeing a demo of Kace last week it looks promising. So has anyone here moved from Bigfix to Kace. If not, anyone have any experience with Kace to give some insight. Thanks ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Dell PowerConnect iSCSI
Isn't germane one of the Jackson 5?
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.comwrote:
Gotta give me points for at least trying to make it germane…
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-sc
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*From:* Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com]
*Sent:* Monday, August 08, 2011 6:06 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: Dell PowerConnect iSCSI
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That’s a stretch there Steve for not being way OT: J
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Wow do let us know how it goes. I don’t use power connect switches anymore
but I have plenty of equallogics.
Good luck.
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dave
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*From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
*Sent:* Monday, August 08, 2011 3:44 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Dell PowerConnect iSCSI
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Just to advise the list:
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Dell has pulled their 4.x.x.x versions of firmware for their 10Gb
PowerConnect switches. There are known issues with flow control, and they
can fail under high load after having been in service for extended periods
of time.
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This is particularly triggered in iSCSI environments. In our case it was
Dell’s own EqualLogic SAN’s that killed them for us. For some time the
EqualLogic and PowerConnect groups disagreed on which firmware was “good”.
We finally got them to talk and v3.1.4.16 has their blessing.
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Of course, the syntax was changed significantly between v3.x.x.x and
4.x.x.x, thus if you are already at 4 you cannot export your current
configuration and re-import on the downgraded v3 chassis. You must manually
reconfigure.
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Here’s pulling for a successful downgrade tonight…
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-sc
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PS- I claim this is NT related because we have NT boxen mounting iSCSI
LUN’s via these switches J
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Re: Dell PowerConnect iSCSI
And he's Dynamite.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQtxVT39fSc
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Doug Hampshire dhampsh...@gmail.com wrote:
Isn't germane one of the Jackson 5?
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.comwrote:
Gotta give me points for at least trying to make it germane…
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-sc
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*From:* Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com]
*Sent:* Monday, August 08, 2011 6:06 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: Dell PowerConnect iSCSI
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That’s a stretch there Steve for not being way OT: J
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Wow do let us know how it goes. I don’t use power connect switches anymore
but I have plenty of equallogics.
Good luck.
** **
dave
** **
*From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
*Sent:* Monday, August 08, 2011 3:44 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Dell PowerConnect iSCSI
** **
Just to advise the list:
** **
Dell has pulled their 4.x.x.x versions of firmware for their 10Gb
PowerConnect switches. There are known issues with flow control, and they
can fail under high load after having been in service for extended periods
of time.
** **
This is particularly triggered in iSCSI environments. In our case it was
Dell’s own EqualLogic SAN’s that killed them for us. For some time the
EqualLogic and PowerConnect groups disagreed on which firmware was “good”.
We finally got them to talk and v3.1.4.16 has their blessing.
** **
Of course, the syntax was changed significantly between v3.x.x.x and
4.x.x.x, thus if you are already at 4 you cannot export your current
configuration and re-import on the downgraded v3 chassis. You must manually
reconfigure.
** **
Here’s pulling for a successful downgrade tonight…
** **
-sc
** **
PS- I claim this is NT related because we have NT boxen mounting iSCSI
LUN’s via these switches J
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RE: Strange Time issue
Where are you syncing your ESX server to? Do your guests sync with it or are they keeping time themselves? John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Greg Sweers [mailto:gswe...@acts360.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Strange Time issue We have a single VMware ESXi 4.1 running 1 Windows 2003 R2, and 1 x 2008 R2 server. The 2008 R2 server runs faster. Watching the clock it actually tickets about 3 real seconds to 5 seconds on the clock in the console. Needless to say this puts stuff out of sync pretty quick. Looked online and I found a few posts regarding some weird time services, but nothing Microsoft or VMware. Anyone seen this before? The 2003 Server runs normally. I can resync against the DC and they are out of sync by 15 seconds in under a minute. Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270 Fax ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Drive mapping via login script
I'm a big fan of GPP for drive mappings, and a huge opponent of login scripts unless said login scripts are *absolutely necessary*. The reason for this is that login scripts have an almost irresistible tendency to turn into huge, undocumented, incomprehensible masses of copy+pasted spaghetti code, and are usually written for expediency of doing a task and moving on (must map this folder for a subset of finance users) rather than weighing the security, cost, time, or fault-tolerance of how it is done. To put it another way, how many login script authors consider the timeout on mapping a drive to a misrouted target, or how long the user must wait if half a dozen drives time out in succession (maybe these could be attempted in parallel, or asynchronously to bringing up the desktop)? Are login scripts kept under source code control, or reviewed by peers? The answer is usually no... --Steve On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:03 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: Nothing is broken, but we don’t have any mappings assigned based on group membership currently so IMO it’s not scalable. I wanted to get a feel for what others are doing and not change something to later hear “hey Lum, you should have asked and not gone down that path…”. If all I need to do is add IFMEMBER functionality then that’s the path of least resistance, easily done and looks like a viable option. GPP also looks doable and has some “cool” factor to it though… Oddly, it’s usually paths of least resistance I usually have the biggest doubts about: “sure I can do that, but how does that scale, or work flexibility-wise when a change or audit needs to happen?” is usually my next question. Putting a user name on a folder ACL instead of creating a group and adding a user to said group and assigning the group is the model I generally reference. Easy to do the former if you have 10 people and a couple of folders you want to manage, no so good if you have 500 users and 50+ different folder ACL’s. I appreciate everyone’s input! Dave From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net] Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 3:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Drive mapping via login script We use .bat files and “if member”. So what doesn’t work? From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 7:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Drive mapping via login script Group policy preferences or AppSense. Never seen any heavy logon lag as a result of either. Sent from my POS BlackBerry wireless device, which may wipe itself at any moment From: Cameron cameron.orl...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 10:48:21 -0400 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Drive mapping via login script I use Kix for all my drive mapping (mostly group-based) here. On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 10:09 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: We use regular .BAT files here for drive mappings, but this doesn't work for group-based mappings. In my past life I have used KiXtart which I suppose can implement here easily enough (been 3 years since I really toyed with it though). I have done some testing of mapping via GPO and it seems to add a bit of time to the login. What do you guys use? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Strange Time issue
Yeah, So where's the DC, on the esx server? What time keeping does the esx server have setup? Is tools installed on both, is time keeping using tools or ntp? There is a vmware kb article about how they recommend to setup time keeping for the guests. jlc From: Greg Sweers [mailto:gswe...@acts360.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Strange Time issue We have a single VMware ESXi 4.1 running 1 Windows 2003 R2, and 1 x 2008 R2 server. The 2008 R2 server runs faster. Watching the clock it actually tickets about 3 real seconds to 5 seconds on the clock in the console. Needless to say this puts stuff out of sync pretty quick. Looked online and I found a few posts regarding some weird time services, but nothing Microsoft or VMware. Anyone seen this before? The 2003 Server runs normally. I can resync against the DC and they are out of sync by 15 seconds in under a minute. Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270 Fax ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Strange Time issue
As John notes, you should let the guests keep time for themselves, and not get their time from the hosts. * * *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Greg Sweers gswe...@acts360.com wrote: We have a single VMware ESXi 4.1 running 1 Windows 2003 R2, and 1 x 2008 R2 server. The 2008 R2 server runs faster. Watching the clock it actually tickets about 3 real seconds to 5 seconds on the clock in the console. Needless to say this puts stuff out of sync pretty quick. ** ** Looked online and I found a few posts regarding some weird time services, but nothing Microsoft or VMware. Anyone seen this before? The 2003 Server runs normally. I can resync against the DC and they are out of sync by 15 seconds in under a minute. ** ** *Greg Sweers* CEO *ACTS360.com http://www.acts360.com/*** *P.O. Box 1193* *Brandon, FL 33509* *813-657-0849 Office* *813-758-6850 Cell* *813-341-1270 Fax* ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Strange Time issue
I actually use the VMWare tools time sync function on the guests and have my hosts sync to north-america.pool.ntp.org. I'm on ESX 4.1 not ESXi John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Strange Time issue As John notes, you should let the guests keep time for themselves, and not get their time from the hosts. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Greg Sweers gswe...@acts360.commailto:gswe...@acts360.com wrote: We have a single VMware ESXi 4.1 running 1 Windows 2003 R2, and 1 x 2008 R2 server. The 2008 R2 server runs faster. Watching the clock it actually tickets about 3 real seconds to 5 seconds on the clock in the console. Needless to say this puts stuff out of sync pretty quick. Looked online and I found a few posts regarding some weird time services, but nothing Microsoft or VMware. Anyone seen this before? The 2003 Server runs normally. I can resync against the DC and they are out of sync by 15 seconds in under a minute. Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849tel:813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850tel:813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270tel:813-341-1270 Fax ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Delegation of Control in Windows 2008 R2 DFL/FFL questions
Was out on vacation last week (if painting counts as vacation 8), but if you didn't already find them, here's what we have. I also went with a group like Jon, so we could put our repair technicians in there, and for anyone else down the road who needs to have the privilege added/removed. For each high-level container, add detailed permissions for that group: Object tab Apply to: Descendant Computer Objects Read all properties Allow Write all properties Allow Delete Allow Reset Password Allow Object tab Apply to: This object and all descendant objects Create Computer objects Allow Delete Computer objects Allow From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 8:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Delegation of Control in Windows 2008 R2 DFL/FFL questions I went with putting a group into the default domain GPO that was able to add machines. I did that originally because I had been told that the office manager needed to add machines as they arrived. Shortly after that I management told me never mind the office manager did not want the extra work. Left the group in there and only put the two non-admin user id's of us that would be adding machines into it. We had DA status but when moving machines around the office we used our regular accounts. These were usually stored machines that were way out of production kept for emergencies. Jon On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.orgmailto:ezi...@lifespan.org wrote: To the list, Been reading up on delegation of control wizard, and it seems that it can be customized as per http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308404 And there are additional templates in the following document: Best Practices for Delegating Active Directory Administration Appendices http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/confirmation.aspx?id=20145 Can these be applied through the Windows 7 RSAT tools to a Windows 2008 R2 DFL/FFL domain? Secondly, does anyone have the specific permissions that need to be granted to the Computers Container so that a specific group can join computers to the domain ( and pop them out) as needed, so I can remove these users from Domain Admins. ( I know create and delete computer objects is needed, but I am sure there are a few others I don't know about) The same set of users would be moving the computer accounts to other OU's which they will have read/write access too accordingly. I also got this off Jorge's Blog http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/archive/2006/01/05/369.aspx (Right now in Windows 7, the Delegwiz.inf file in the c:\windows\system32 directory and not in %windows%\inf as stated. Does this section just need to be added to the delegwiz.inf file and save it and it shows up in the ADUC MMC snapin when doing delegation of control next time? This way you can delegate the creation of computer accounts to group1 and the joining of the computers to group2. It is also however possible you have a group of people who create computers accounts and also join them. To able so everyone in that group can create a computer accounts and join the computers to the domain independent who created the computer accounts replace TEMPLATE 6 with what is mentioned below or perform the delegate twice with the additional task created above! If you want to join a computer to the domain in a specific OU and the computer account has not been pre-created you cannot use the GUI at the computer. For this you must use the tool NETDOM so you can specify the OU the computer account must reside in! The latter only is only possible when you at least have the right to create a computer object in the designated OU. Joining will also be possible because you automatically become the owner of the computer account! ;-- [template6] AppliesToClasses = domainDNS,organizationalUnit,container Description = Add and/or join a computer to the domain in an OU (computer) ObjectTypes = SCOPE, computer [template6.SCOPE] ;Right to create computer objects computer=CC [template6.computer] ;Right to join computers to domain CONTROLRIGHT= Reset Password,Validated write to DNS host name,Validated write to service principal name, Account Restrictions Thanks for the replies in advance, EZ Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.orgmailto:email%3aezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505tel:401-639-3505 [cid:image001.jpg@01CC5667.182A3020] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
RE: Strange Time issue
Tools are loaded, but we are not syncing with the Host. The DC is on another server, which is also running 2008 R2. Same setup. Not syncing with Host. The PDC is configured to sync with time.windows.com 0x1, per Microsoft time setup articles. All of our workstations and other servers have no issue with time sync. Never seen it before. We also have our Vmware time sync with time.windows.com as well. Had an issue way back when when guests were syncing with host regardless of settings so we just got in the habit. Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270 Fax From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue I actually use the VMWare tools time sync function on the guests and have my hosts sync to north-america.pool.ntp.org. I'm on ESX 4.1 not ESXi John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Strange Time issue As John notes, you should let the guests keep time for themselves, and not get their time from the hosts. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Greg Sweers gswe...@acts360.commailto:gswe...@acts360.com wrote: We have a single VMware ESXi 4.1 running 1 Windows 2003 R2, and 1 x 2008 R2 server. The 2008 R2 server runs faster. Watching the clock it actually tickets about 3 real seconds to 5 seconds on the clock in the console. Needless to say this puts stuff out of sync pretty quick. Looked online and I found a few posts regarding some weird time services, but nothing Microsoft or VMware. Anyone seen this before? The 2003 Server runs normally. I can resync against the DC and they are out of sync by 15 seconds in under a minute. Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849tel:813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850tel:813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270tel:813-341-1270 Fax ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Drive mapping via login script
Everyone's environment is different. We have about 6000 users, spread around the state, with about 20 sites, most with their own servers. Each site has their own .bat, because it wasn't worth trying to figure out how to map local drives and also drives back to the Home office. We have sensitive data, and we have various committees/projects with people coming/going. It was just easier to adjust their group membership. When we hire someone new, we ask who their access should resemble, and we just have put them in the proper groups rather than trying to figure out what folders they have access to. Haven't looked at GPP. I've changed positions and that kind of stuff is out of my hands now. From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 6:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Drive mapping via login script Nothing is broken, but we don't have any mappings assigned based on group membership currently so IMO it's not scalable. I wanted to get a feel for what others are doing and not change something to later hear hey Lum, you should have asked and not gone down that path.. If all I need to do is add IFMEMBER functionality then that's the path of least resistance, easily done and looks like a viable option. GPP also looks doable and has some cool factor to it though. Oddly, it's usually paths of least resistance I usually have the biggest doubts about: sure I can do that, but how does that scale, or work flexibility-wise when a change or audit needs to happen? is usually my next question. Putting a user name on a folder ACL instead of creating a group and adding a user to said group and assigning the group is the model I generally reference. Easy to do the former if you have 10 people and a couple of folders you want to manage, no so good if you have 500 users and 50+ different folder ACL's. I appreciate everyone's input! Dave From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net] Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 3:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Drive mapping via login script We use .bat files and if member. So what doesn't work? From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 7:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Drive mapping via login script Group policy preferences or AppSense. Never seen any heavy logon lag as a result of either. Sent from my POS BlackBerry wireless device, which may wipe itself at any moment _ From: Cameron cameron.orl...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 10:48:21 -0400 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Drive mapping via login script I use Kix for all my drive mapping (mostly group-based) here. On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 10:09 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: We use regular .BAT files here for drive mappings, but this doesn't work for group-based mappings. In my past life I have used KiXtart which I suppose can implement here easily enough (been 3 years since I really toyed with it though). I have done some testing of mapping via GPO and it seems to add a bit of time to the login. What do you guys use? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that
RE: Strange Time issue
Are these domain machines? You don't sync them to a DC and sync the DC out to an external NTP server? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue I actually use the VMWare tools time sync function on the guests and have my hosts sync to north-america.pool.ntp.org. I'm on ESX 4.1 not ESXi John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Strange Time issue As John notes, you should let the guests keep time for themselves, and not get their time from the hosts. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Greg Sweers gswe...@acts360.commailto:gswe...@acts360.com wrote: We have a single VMware ESXi 4.1 running 1 Windows 2003 R2, and 1 x 2008 R2 server. The 2008 R2 server runs faster. Watching the clock it actually tickets about 3 real seconds to 5 seconds on the clock in the console. Needless to say this puts stuff out of sync pretty quick. Looked online and I found a few posts regarding some weird time services, but nothing Microsoft or VMware. Anyone seen this before? The 2003 Server runs normally. I can resync against the DC and they are out of sync by 15 seconds in under a minute. Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849tel:813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850tel:813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270tel:813-341-1270 Fax ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Missing drive
If you haven't updated firmware and drivers in a while, you might go that route as well. A lot of Dell issues with drives going offline and then rebuilding successfully are resolved with firmware updates. From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:oliver.marsh...@g2support.com] Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 4:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Missing drive Hi chaps We have a Dell 2950 server that has 6 drives, labelled 0 to 5. There are two back planes, one for drives 0 to 3 and one for drives 4 to 5. The raid card is a Perc 5/i. On two separate occasions drives have been shown to have been removed from the server, despite them still physically being present. First it was Drive 1 and then it was Drive 4. Reinserting the drives causes the array to re-sync and everything appear fine. Originally I thought it might be a drive, until a second drive did it. Then I thought it might be a back plane, until I saw that there are two separate back planes. Now I'm thinking it may be the integrated raid card. I just wanted a sanity check really before I order new bits (it's out of warranty by a month!). Any thoughts? Olly ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Strange Time issue
All workstations and server sync to the DC, the DC syncs outside as well as the VMWARE host. Workstations have no issues and neither do most of the servers, its just these 2 servers on one host that run fast. I am thinking its hardware, I can actually watch the clock and for every 3 to 4 real seconds it runs 5. Never seen this happen before. Its not a sync issue it's the servers just running time fast and they get out of sync. We run some sleep software that is real sensitive so in between sync time periods they complain. I am real close to just taking out some new hardware and importing the VM's to the new box to rule out hardware. Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270 Fax From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue Are these domain machines? You don't sync them to a DC and sync the DC out to an external NTP server? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]mailto:[mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue I actually use the VMWare tools time sync function on the guests and have my hosts sync to north-america.pool.ntp.org. I'm on ESX 4.1 not ESXi John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Strange Time issue As John notes, you should let the guests keep time for themselves, and not get their time from the hosts. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Greg Sweers gswe...@acts360.commailto:gswe...@acts360.com wrote: We have a single VMware ESXi 4.1 running 1 Windows 2003 R2, and 1 x 2008 R2 server. The 2008 R2 server runs faster. Watching the clock it actually tickets about 3 real seconds to 5 seconds on the clock in the console. Needless to say this puts stuff out of sync pretty quick. Looked online and I found a few posts regarding some weird time services, but nothing Microsoft or VMware. Anyone seen this before? The 2003 Server runs normally. I can resync against the DC and they are out of sync by 15 seconds in under a minute. Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849tel:813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850tel:813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270tel:813-341-1270 Fax ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body:
RE: SQL for File Storage?
From the SP 2010 class we recently attended, I wouldn't think MS is pushing BLOBS with SP, just that they've added it. I was eager to hear about this feature, thinking it would be more like a friendly explorer-based file system that we could use, but it is complicated to set up and doesn't seem to have much, if any, advantage (yet?) that we can see. We are not planning on implementing BLOBs--maybe if they can improve the back-end to be more useful for admins. I'm sure there have been bugs, but the only real problem I can think of with the way SP stores files in SQL has to do with accessing them via IIS--there are hard limits to the file sizes you can use. -Original Message- From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: SQL for File Storage? Yes, I think there were problems though, and iirc MS is trying to move away from that. To 'BLOBS' or something. Some sort of external SQL storage mechanism. -Original Message- From: Tigran K [mailto:tigr...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 1:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: SQL for File Storage? Sharepoint stores files in SQL with no problem. --T On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com wrote: We have a company pitching a project management solution that stores all project data, including photos, docs, etc. in SQL. I'm leary because most of our projects have about 200 MB of related files and I'm envisioning huge databases. Should I be, or is SQL more ideal for this type of application than I suspect? Roger Wright ___ Bozone (n.): The substance surrounding stupid people that stops bright ideas from penetrating. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Strange Time issue
Wow, that's just bizarre From: Greg Sweers [mailto:gswe...@acts360.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 8:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue All workstations and server sync to the DC, the DC syncs outside as well as the VMWARE host. Workstations have no issues and neither do most of the servers, its just these 2 servers on one host that run fast. I am thinking its hardware, I can actually watch the clock and for every 3 to 4 real seconds it runs 5. Never seen this happen before. Its not a sync issue it's the servers just running time fast and they get out of sync. We run some sleep software that is real sensitive so in between sync time periods they complain. I am real close to just taking out some new hardware and importing the VM's to the new box to rule out hardware. Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270 Fax From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue Are these domain machines? You don't sync them to a DC and sync the DC out to an external NTP server? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]mailto:[mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue I actually use the VMWare tools time sync function on the guests and have my hosts sync to north-america.pool.ntp.org. I'm on ESX 4.1 not ESXi John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Strange Time issue As John notes, you should let the guests keep time for themselves, and not get their time from the hosts. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Greg Sweers gswe...@acts360.commailto:gswe...@acts360.com wrote: We have a single VMware ESXi 4.1 running 1 Windows 2003 R2, and 1 x 2008 R2 server. The 2008 R2 server runs faster. Watching the clock it actually tickets about 3 real seconds to 5 seconds on the clock in the console. Needless to say this puts stuff out of sync pretty quick. Looked online and I found a few posts regarding some weird time services, but nothing Microsoft or VMware. Anyone seen this before? The 2003 Server runs normally. I can resync against the DC and they are out of sync by 15 seconds in under a minute. Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849tel:813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850tel:813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270tel:813-341-1270 Fax ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here:
RE: Strange Time issue
All domain machines. All VM guests sync to the ESX hosts. All workstations sync to physical DC's that use standard Windows time service. John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue Are these domain machines? You don't sync them to a DC and sync the DC out to an external NTP server? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue I actually use the VMWare tools time sync function on the guests and have my hosts sync to north-america.pool.ntp.org. I'm on ESX 4.1 not ESXi John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Strange Time issue As John notes, you should let the guests keep time for themselves, and not get their time from the hosts. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Greg Sweers gswe...@acts360.commailto:gswe...@acts360.com wrote: We have a single VMware ESXi 4.1 running 1 Windows 2003 R2, and 1 x 2008 R2 server. The 2008 R2 server runs faster. Watching the clock it actually tickets about 3 real seconds to 5 seconds on the clock in the console. Needless to say this puts stuff out of sync pretty quick. Looked online and I found a few posts regarding some weird time services, but nothing Microsoft or VMware. Anyone seen this before? The 2003 Server runs normally. I can resync against the DC and they are out of sync by 15 seconds in under a minute. Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849tel:813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850tel:813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270tel:813-341-1270 Fax ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this
RE: Strange Time issue
I'm in NO way an electricity person. If I understand correctly (and they are correct), this should not affect computers, but is be something to be aware of. I'm sure someone out there knows the why and why not and will quickly reply 8) http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/06/electric_grid_experiment_could.html From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 8:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue Wow, that's just bizarre From: Greg Sweers [mailto:gswe...@acts360.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 8:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue All workstations and server sync to the DC, the DC syncs outside as well as the VMWARE host. Workstations have no issues and neither do most of the servers, its just these 2 servers on one host that run fast. I am thinking its hardware, I can actually watch the clock and for every 3 to 4 real seconds it runs 5. Never seen this happen before. Its not a sync issue it's the servers just running time fast and they get out of sync. We run some sleep software that is real sensitive so in between sync time periods they complain. I am real close to just taking out some new hardware and importing the VM's to the new box to rule out hardware. Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270 Fax From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue Are these domain machines? You don't sync them to a DC and sync the DC out to an external NTP server? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]mailto:[mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue I actually use the VMWare tools time sync function on the guests and have my hosts sync to north-america.pool.ntp.org. I'm on ESX 4.1 not ESXi John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Strange Time issue As John notes, you should let the guests keep time for themselves, and not get their time from the hosts. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Greg Sweers gswe...@acts360.commailto:gswe...@acts360.com wrote: We have a single VMware ESXi 4.1 running 1 Windows 2003 R2, and 1 x 2008 R2 server. The 2008 R2 server runs faster. Watching the clock it actually tickets about 3 real seconds to 5 seconds on the clock in the console. Needless to say this puts stuff out of sync pretty quick. Looked online and I found a few posts regarding some weird time services, but nothing Microsoft or VMware. Anyone seen this before? The 2003 Server runs normally. I can resync against the DC and they are out of sync by 15 seconds in under a minute. Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849tel:813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850tel:813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270tel:813-341-1270 Fax ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this
RE: Strange Time issue
We kept getting time issues when we had ESX set the time on Windows servers because the domain will adjust the server time and then the ESX system adjust it back. This kept causing the time to go back and forth and it turned out the ESX systems were getting skewed from the NTP source at a greater rate. So let the domain do its thing with the servers by setting time. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue All domain machines. All VM guests sync to the ESX hosts. All workstations sync to physical DC's that use standard Windows time service. John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue Are these domain machines? You don't sync them to a DC and sync the DC out to an external NTP server? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue I actually use the VMWare tools time sync function on the guests and have my hosts sync to north-america.pool.ntp.org. I'm on ESX 4.1 not ESXi John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Strange Time issue As John notes, you should let the guests keep time for themselves, and not get their time from the hosts. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Greg Sweers gswe...@acts360.commailto:gswe...@acts360.com wrote: We have a single VMware ESXi 4.1 running 1 Windows 2003 R2, and 1 x 2008 R2 server. The 2008 R2 server runs faster. Watching the clock it actually tickets about 3 real seconds to 5 seconds on the clock in the console. Needless to say this puts stuff out of sync pretty quick. Looked online and I found a few posts regarding some weird time services, but nothing Microsoft or VMware. Anyone seen this before? The 2003 Server runs normally. I can resync against the DC and they are out of sync by 15 seconds in under a minute. Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849tel:813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850tel:813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270tel:813-341-1270 Fax ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body:
RE: Strange Time issue
We had this issue back in the ESX 3.5 days but it hasn't been an issue since our move to 4.1. We're only talking about 20 guests here. John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Senter, John [mailto:john.sen...@etrade.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue We kept getting time issues when we had ESX set the time on Windows servers because the domain will adjust the server time and then the ESX system adjust it back. This kept causing the time to go back and forth and it turned out the ESX systems were getting skewed from the NTP source at a greater rate. So let the domain do its thing with the servers by setting time. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue All domain machines. All VM guests sync to the ESX hosts. All workstations sync to physical DC's that use standard Windows time service. John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue Are these domain machines? You don't sync them to a DC and sync the DC out to an external NTP server? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue I actually use the VMWare tools time sync function on the guests and have my hosts sync to north-america.pool.ntp.org. I'm on ESX 4.1 not ESXi John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Strange Time issue As John notes, you should let the guests keep time for themselves, and not get their time from the hosts. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Greg Sweers gswe...@acts360.commailto:gswe...@acts360.com wrote: We have a single VMware ESXi 4.1 running 1 Windows 2003 R2, and 1 x 2008 R2 server. The 2008 R2 server runs faster. Watching the clock it actually tickets about 3 real seconds to 5 seconds on the clock in the console. Needless to say this puts stuff out of sync pretty quick. Looked online and I found a few posts regarding some weird time services, but nothing Microsoft or VMware. Anyone seen this before? The 2003 Server runs normally. I can resync against the DC and they are out of sync by 15 seconds in under a minute. Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849tel:813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850tel:813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270tel:813-341-1270 Fax ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are
RE: Strange Time issue
Adding a me too post on the versions mentioned. Also, I am wondering if it's a case of going over the Net for time versus a local clock. I want to recall we had similar issues but they went away when we added an NTP device to the networks. Memory is a bit scraggly in the morning.Coffee! Thanks, Mathew From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 8:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue We had this issue back in the ESX 3.5 days but it hasn't been an issue since our move to 4.1. We're only talking about 20 guests here. John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Senter, John [mailto:john.sen...@etrade.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue We kept getting time issues when we had ESX set the time on Windows servers because the domain will adjust the server time and then the ESX system adjust it back. This kept causing the time to go back and forth and it turned out the ESX systems were getting skewed from the NTP source at a greater rate. So let the domain do its thing with the servers by setting time. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue All domain machines. All VM guests sync to the ESX hosts. All workstations sync to physical DC's that use standard Windows time service. John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue Are these domain machines? You don't sync them to a DC and sync the DC out to an external NTP server? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue I actually use the VMWare tools time sync function on the guests and have my hosts sync to north-america.pool.ntp.org. I'm on ESX 4.1 not ESXi John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Strange Time issue As John notes, you should let the guests keep time for themselves, and not get their time from the hosts. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Greg Sweers gswe...@acts360.commailto:gswe...@acts360.com wrote: We have a single VMware ESXi 4.1 running 1 Windows 2003 R2, and 1 x 2008 R2 server. The 2008 R2 server runs faster. Watching the clock it actually tickets about 3 real seconds to 5 seconds on the clock in the console. Needless to say this puts stuff out of sync pretty quick. Looked online and I found a few posts regarding some weird time services, but nothing Microsoft or VMware. Anyone seen this before? The 2003 Server runs normally. I can resync against the DC and they are out of sync by 15 seconds in under a minute. Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849tel:813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850tel:813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270tel:813-341-1270 Fax ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the
RE: Drive mapping via login script
Can't say the timeout issue has been a problem for us in the last 5 years I've been here. Our scripts are fairly simple and we do try to document. We've had more problems with machines not getting policies than not getting running their login scripts. -Original Message- From: Steve Kradel [mailto:skra...@zetetic.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Drive mapping via login script I'm a big fan of GPP for drive mappings, and a huge opponent of login scripts unless said login scripts are *absolutely necessary*. The reason for this is that login scripts have an almost irresistible tendency to turn into huge, undocumented, incomprehensible masses of copy+pasted spaghetti code, and are usually written for expediency of doing a task and moving on (must map this folder for a subset of finance users) rather than weighing the security, cost, time, or fault-tolerance of how it is done. To put it another way, how many login script authors consider the timeout on mapping a drive to a misrouted target, or how long the user must wait if half a dozen drives time out in succession (maybe these could be attempted in parallel, or asynchronously to bringing up the desktop)? Are login scripts kept under source code control, or reviewed by peers? The answer is usually no... --Steve On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:03 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: Nothing is broken, but we dont have any mappings assigned based on group membership currently so IMO its not scalable. I wanted to get a feel for what others are doing and not change something to later hear hey Lum, you should have asked and not gone down that path . If all I need to do is add IFMEMBER functionality then thats the path of least resistance, easily done and looks like a viable option. GPP also looks doable and has some cool factor to it though Oddly, its usually paths of least resistance I usually have the biggest doubts about: sure I can do that, but how does that scale, or work flexibility-wise when a change or audit needs to happen? is usually my next question. Putting a user name on a folder ACL instead of creating a group and adding a user to said group and assigning the group is the model I generally reference. Easy to do the former if you have 10 people and a couple of folders you want to manage, no so good if you have 500 users and 50+ different folder ACLs. I appreciate everyones input! Dave From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net] Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 3:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Drive mapping via login script We use .bat files and if member. So what doesnt work? From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 7:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Drive mapping via login script Group policy preferences or AppSense. Never seen any heavy logon lag as a result of either. Sent from my POS BlackBerry wireless device, which may wipe itself at any moment From: Cameron cameron.orl...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 10:48:21 -0400 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Drive mapping via login script I use Kix for all my drive mapping (mostly group-based) here. On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 10:09 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: We use regular .BAT files here for drive mappings, but this doesn't work for group-based mappings. In my past life I have used KiXtart which I suppose can implement here easily enough (been 3 years since I really toyed with it though). I have done some testing of mapping via GPO and it seems to add a bit of time to the login. What do you guys use? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Strange Time issue
Exactly the problem I've seen at two locations. That's why we moved away from the hosts managing the clock for the guests. * * *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Senter, John john.sen...@etrade.comwrote: We kept getting time issues when we had ESX set the time on Windows servers because the domain will adjust the server time and then the ESX system adjust it back. This kept causing the time to go back and forth and it turned out the ESX systems were getting skewed from the NTP source at a greater rate. So let the domain do its thing with the servers by setting time. ** ** *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:18 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Strange Time issue ** ** All domain machines. All VM guests sync to the ESX hosts. All workstations sync to physical DC’s that use standard Windows time service. ** ** *John W. Cook* *System Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *5950 NW 1st Place* *Gainesville, Fl 32607* *Office (352) 244-1610* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4* ** ** *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:49 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Strange Time issue ** ** Are these domain machines? You don’t sync them to a DC and sync the DC out to an external NTP server? *David Lum* Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:21 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Strange Time issue ** ** I actually use the VMWare tools time sync function on the guests and have my hosts sync to north-america.pool.ntp.org. I’m on ESX 4.1 not ESXi ** ** *John W. Cook* *System Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *5950 NW 1st Place* *Gainesville, Fl 32607* *Office (352) 244-1610* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4* ** ** *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:05 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Strange Time issue ** ** As John notes, you should let the guests keep time for themselves, and not get their time from the hosts. *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…* ** ** On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Greg Sweers gswe...@acts360.com wrote:** ** We have a single VMware ESXi 4.1 running 1 Windows 2003 R2, and 1 x 2008 R2 server. The 2008 R2 server runs faster. Watching the clock it actually tickets about 3 real seconds to 5 seconds on the clock in the console. Needless to say this puts stuff out of sync pretty quick. Looked online and I found a few posts regarding some weird time services, but nothing Microsoft or VMware. Anyone seen this before? The 2003 Server runs normally. I can resync against the DC and they are out of sync by 15 seconds in under a minute. *Greg Sweers* CEO *ACTS360.com http://www.acts360.com/* *P.O. Box 1193* *Brandon, FL 33509* *813-657-0849 Office* *813-758-6850 Cell* *813-341-1270 Fax* ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Strange Time issue
I've done the same thing on my hyperV guests...turn off host time sync and have them all sync to the DCs. The FSMO role holder is the only machine syncing to an external time source. On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: Exactly the problem I've seen at two locations. That's why we moved away from the hosts managing the clock for the guests. * * *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Senter, John john.sen...@etrade.comwrote: We kept getting time issues when we had ESX set the time on Windows servers because the domain will adjust the server time and then the ESX system adjust it back. This kept causing the time to go back and forth and it turned out the ESX systems were getting skewed from the NTP source at a greater rate. So let the domain do its thing with the servers by setting time. ** ** *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:18 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Strange Time issue ** ** All domain machines. All VM guests sync to the ESX hosts. All workstations sync to physical DC’s that use standard Windows time service. ** ** *John W. Cook* *System Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *5950 NW 1st Place* *Gainesville, Fl 32607* *Office (352) 244-1610* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4* ** ** *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:49 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Strange Time issue ** ** Are these domain machines? You don’t sync them to a DC and sync the DC out to an external NTP server? *David Lum* Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:21 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Strange Time issue ** ** I actually use the VMWare tools time sync function on the guests and have my hosts sync to north-america.pool.ntp.org. I’m on ESX 4.1 not ESXi ** ** *John W. Cook* *System Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *5950 NW 1st Place* *Gainesville, Fl 32607* *Office (352) 244-1610* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4* ** ** *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:05 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Strange Time issue ** ** As John notes, you should let the guests keep time for themselves, and not get their time from the hosts. *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…* ** ** On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Greg Sweers gswe...@acts360.com wrote:* *** We have a single VMware ESXi 4.1 running 1 Windows 2003 R2, and 1 x 2008 R2 server. The 2008 R2 server runs faster. Watching the clock it actually tickets about 3 real seconds to 5 seconds on the clock in the console. Needless to say this puts stuff out of sync pretty quick. Looked online and I found a few posts regarding some weird time services, but nothing Microsoft or VMware. Anyone seen this before? The 2003 Server runs normally. I can resync against the DC and they are out of sync by 15 seconds in under a minute. *Greg Sweers* CEO *ACTS360.com http://www.acts360.com/* *P.O. Box 1193* *Brandon, FL 33509* *813-657-0849 Office* *813-758-6850 Cell* *813-341-1270 Fax* ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Strange Time issue
Are we talking individual ESX hosts or several managed by a VCenter? John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Strange Time issue Exactly the problem I've seen at two locations. That's why we moved away from the hosts managing the clock for the guests. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Senter, John john.sen...@etrade.commailto:john.sen...@etrade.com wrote: We kept getting time issues when we had ESX set the time on Windows servers because the domain will adjust the server time and then the ESX system adjust it back. This kept causing the time to go back and forth and it turned out the ESX systems were getting skewed from the NTP source at a greater rate. So let the domain do its thing with the servers by setting time. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue All domain machines. All VM guests sync to the ESX hosts. All workstations sync to physical DC's that use standard Windows time service. John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610tel:%28352%29%20244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944tel:%28352%29%20215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue Are these domain machines? You don't sync them to a DC and sync the DC out to an external NTP server? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229tel:503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764tel:503.267.9764 From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue I actually use the VMWare tools time sync function on the guests and have my hosts sync to north-america.pool.ntp.orghttp://north-america.pool.ntp.org. I'm on ESX 4.1 not ESXi John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610tel:%28352%29%20244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944tel:%28352%29%20215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Strange Time issue As John notes, you should let the guests keep time for themselves, and not get their time from the hosts. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Greg Sweers gswe...@acts360.commailto:gswe...@acts360.com wrote: We have a single VMware ESXi 4.1 running 1 Windows 2003 R2, and 1 x 2008 R2 server. The 2008 R2 server runs faster. Watching the clock it actually tickets about 3 real seconds to 5 seconds on the clock in the console. Needless to say this puts stuff out of sync pretty quick. Looked online and I found a few posts regarding some weird time services, but nothing Microsoft or VMware. Anyone seen this before? The 2003 Server runs normally. I can resync against the DC and they are out of sync by 15 seconds in under a minute. Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849tel:813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850tel:813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270tel:813-341-1270 Fax ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this
RE: Strange Time issue
Single point of failure.. John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Strange Time issue I've done the same thing on my hyperV guests...turn off host time sync and have them all sync to the DCs. The FSMO role holder is the only machine syncing to an external time source. On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com wrote: Exactly the problem I've seen at two locations. That's why we moved away from the hosts managing the clock for the guests. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Senter, John john.sen...@etrade.commailto:john.sen...@etrade.com wrote: We kept getting time issues when we had ESX set the time on Windows servers because the domain will adjust the server time and then the ESX system adjust it back. This kept causing the time to go back and forth and it turned out the ESX systems were getting skewed from the NTP source at a greater rate. So let the domain do its thing with the servers by setting time. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue All domain machines. All VM guests sync to the ESX hosts. All workstations sync to physical DC's that use standard Windows time service. John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610tel:%28352%29%20244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944tel:%28352%29%20215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue Are these domain machines? You don't sync them to a DC and sync the DC out to an external NTP server? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229tel:503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764tel:503.267.9764 From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue I actually use the VMWare tools time sync function on the guests and have my hosts sync to north-america.pool.ntp.orghttp://north-america.pool.ntp.org. I'm on ESX 4.1 not ESXi John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610tel:%28352%29%20244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944tel:%28352%29%20215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Strange Time issue As John notes, you should let the guests keep time for themselves, and not get their time from the hosts. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Greg Sweers gswe...@acts360.commailto:gswe...@acts360.com wrote: We have a single VMware ESXi 4.1 running 1 Windows 2003 R2, and 1 x 2008 R2 server. The 2008 R2 server runs faster. Watching the clock it actually tickets about 3 real seconds to 5 seconds on the clock in the console. Needless to say this puts stuff out of sync pretty quick. Looked online and I found a few posts regarding some weird time services, but nothing Microsoft or VMware. Anyone seen this before? The 2003 Server runs normally. I can resync against the DC and they are out of sync by 15 seconds in under a minute. Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849tel:813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850tel:813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270tel:813-341-1270 Fax ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this
RE: Strange Time issue
The definitive document. :) http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2010/01/29/a-brief-history-of-time-ok-ok-let-s-go-with-quot-an-introduction-to-the-windows-time-service-quot.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Strange Time issue Exactly the problem I've seen at two locations. That's why we moved away from the hosts managing the clock for the guests. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Senter, John john.sen...@etrade.commailto:john.sen...@etrade.com wrote: We kept getting time issues when we had ESX set the time on Windows servers because the domain will adjust the server time and then the ESX system adjust it back. This kept causing the time to go back and forth and it turned out the ESX systems were getting skewed from the NTP source at a greater rate. So let the domain do its thing with the servers by setting time. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue All domain machines. All VM guests sync to the ESX hosts. All workstations sync to physical DC's that use standard Windows time service. John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610tel:%28352%29%20244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944tel:%28352%29%20215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue Are these domain machines? You don't sync them to a DC and sync the DC out to an external NTP server? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229tel:503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764tel:503.267.9764 From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue I actually use the VMWare tools time sync function on the guests and have my hosts sync to north-america.pool.ntp.orghttp://north-america.pool.ntp.org. I'm on ESX 4.1 not ESXi John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610tel:%28352%29%20244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944tel:%28352%29%20215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Strange Time issue As John notes, you should let the guests keep time for themselves, and not get their time from the hosts. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Greg Sweers gswe...@acts360.commailto:gswe...@acts360.com wrote: We have a single VMware ESXi 4.1 running 1 Windows 2003 R2, and 1 x 2008 R2 server. The 2008 R2 server runs faster. Watching the clock it actually tickets about 3 real seconds to 5 seconds on the clock in the console. Needless to say this puts stuff out of sync pretty quick. Looked online and I found a few posts regarding some weird time services, but nothing Microsoft or VMware. Anyone seen this before? The 2003 Server runs normally. I can resync against the DC and they are out of sync by 15 seconds in under a minute. Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849tel:813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850tel:813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270tel:813-341-1270 Fax ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Kace K1000 System Management Appliance
I looked at LanDesk at the same time I looked at KBox. From the demos I saw, it's pretty amazing. But it's expensive, and the company refused to compete on the price point, so I discarded them from our options. By the way, Dave, I use Kbox for reporting for our PC replacement schedule. A simple export and I sort by model, memory, CPU and know which need to go. Tom Senter, John john.sen...@etrade.com 8/9/2011 9:36 AM We are also going to review LanDesk, so if anyone has insight on that it would be very useful. From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 8:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Kace K1000 System Management Appliance Patching is super easy in KBox. I spent about a day creating PC/server groups (tied to AD/ldap or IP - your preference), then another day creating my various patch groups. Since then (about a year) I've modified the patch groups maybe once or twice. Once you create the PC groups, the patch groups, and schedule the patches, that's pretty much it. Very easy, and excellent reporting. Using SCCM, patching was equally granular as the KBox, but I hated having to spend time to clean up my patch lists. I have not used SCCM in a year, so perhaps this has changed. There is a metering component that you might find useful. Or reports do the same thing. If it matters, I've found Kace/Dell support to be excellent, better than most vendors I've worked with. If you need something and can't figure it out, the support guys will give you a hand. We didn't have any SCCM support, since we purchased it with non-profit/charity licensing. Tom Senter, John john.sen...@etrade.com 8/9/2011 7:56 AM Patching will be a big part of this, but we also use the reporting to find what is installed and versions. Our procurement department is also wanting us to find a product to report on licensing for current apps so we make sure we stay compliant. From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 5:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Kace K1000 System Management Appliance We’ve had a couple demo’s of Kace and are looking to move that direction. Which features are you looking to leverage – patching? Dave From: Senter, John [mailto:john.sen...@etrade.com] Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 7:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Kace K1000 System Management Appliance Wanting to see if anyone in this group has experience with the Kace/Dell K1000 Sys Mgmt appliance. We currently use the Bigfix product for this, but since the IBM acquisition we are looking to see what else is available. After seeing a demo of Kace last week it looks promising. So has anyone here moved from Bigfix to Kace. If not, anyone have any experience with Kace to give some insight. Thanks ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged
Re: Strange Time issue
Redundant time servers in house On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 10:55 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Single point of failure………. ** ** *John W. Cook* *System Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *5950 NW 1st Place* *Gainesville, Fl 32607* *Office (352) 244-1610* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP**4, VTSP4* ** ** *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:53 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Strange Time issue ** ** I've done the same thing on my hyperV guests...turn off host time sync and have them all sync to the DCs. The FSMO role holder is the only machine syncing to an external time source. On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: Exactly the problem I've seen at two locations. That's why we moved away from the hosts managing the clock for the guests. ** ** *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…* On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Senter, John john.sen...@etrade.com wrote: We kept getting time issues when we had ESX set the time on Windows servers because the domain will adjust the server time and then the ESX system adjust it back. This kept causing the time to go back and forth and it turned out the ESX systems were getting skewed from the NTP source at a greater rate. So let the domain do its thing with the servers by setting time. *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:18 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Strange Time issue All domain machines. All VM guests sync to the ESX hosts. All workstations sync to physical DC’s that use standard Windows time service. *John W. Cook* *System Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *5950 NW 1st Place* *Gainesville, Fl 32607* *Office (352) 244-1610* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4* *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:49 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Strange Time issue Are these domain machines? You don’t sync them to a DC and sync the DC out to an external NTP server? *David Lum* Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:21 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Strange Time issue I actually use the VMWare tools time sync function on the guests and have my hosts sync to north-america.pool.ntp.org. I’m on ESX 4.1 not ESXi *John W. Cook* *System Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *5950 NW 1st Place* *Gainesville, Fl 32607* *Office (352) 244-1610* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4* *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:05 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Strange Time issue As John notes, you should let the guests keep time for themselves, and not get their time from the hosts. *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…* On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Greg Sweers gswe...@acts360.com wrote:** ** We have a single VMware ESXi 4.1 running 1 Windows 2003 R2, and 1 x 2008 R2 server. The 2008 R2 server runs faster. Watching the clock it actually tickets about 3 real seconds to 5 seconds on the clock in the console. Needless to say this puts stuff out of sync pretty quick. Looked online and I found a few posts regarding some weird time services, but nothing Microsoft or VMware. Anyone seen this before? The 2003 Server runs normally. I can resync against the DC and they are out of sync by 15 seconds in under a minute. *Greg Sweers* CEO *ACTS360.com http://www.acts360.com/* *P.O. Box 1193* *Brandon, FL 33509* *813-657-0849 Office* *813-758-6850 Cell* *813-341-1270 Fax* ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here:
trouble downloading Adobe Flash Player
Anyone else having this issue in IE 8 or FF 5? I get the installer downloaded and run it. The installer then downloads the app and it stops at 12% during the download. Thanks, Jimmy ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Strange Time issue
Well dang..If that doesn't beat all. Everytime I run the resync command the stupid thing goes back to Local CMOS when I run a /query /source. So I set it again, run the /query /source shows the time.windows.com. Run the update, restart services, run the resync..bam back to local cmos. Its just my week for random MS issues... Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270 Fax From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue The definitive document. :) http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2010/01/29/a-brief-history-of-time-ok-ok-let-s-go-with-quot-an-introduction-to-the-windows-time-service-quot.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Strange Time issue Exactly the problem I've seen at two locations. That's why we moved away from the hosts managing the clock for the guests. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Senter, John john.sen...@etrade.commailto:john.sen...@etrade.com wrote: We kept getting time issues when we had ESX set the time on Windows servers because the domain will adjust the server time and then the ESX system adjust it back. This kept causing the time to go back and forth and it turned out the ESX systems were getting skewed from the NTP source at a greater rate. So let the domain do its thing with the servers by setting time. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue All domain machines. All VM guests sync to the ESX hosts. All workstations sync to physical DC's that use standard Windows time service. John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610tel:%28352%29%20244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944tel:%28352%29%20215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue Are these domain machines? You don't sync them to a DC and sync the DC out to an external NTP server? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229tel:503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764tel:503.267.9764 From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue I actually use the VMWare tools time sync function on the guests and have my hosts sync to north-america.pool.ntp.orghttp://north-america.pool.ntp.org. I'm on ESX 4.1 not ESXi John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610tel:%28352%29%20244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944tel:%28352%29%20215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Strange Time issue As John notes, you should let the guests keep time for themselves, and not get their time from the hosts. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Greg Sweers gswe...@acts360.commailto:gswe...@acts360.com wrote: We have a single VMware ESXi 4.1 running 1 Windows 2003 R2, and 1 x 2008 R2 server. The 2008 R2 server runs faster. Watching the clock it actually tickets about 3 real seconds to 5 seconds on the clock in the console. Needless to say this puts stuff out of sync pretty quick. Looked online and I found a few posts regarding some weird time services, but nothing Microsoft or VMware. Anyone seen this before? The 2003 Server runs normally. I can resync against the DC and they are out of sync by 15 seconds in under a minute. Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849tel:813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850tel:813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270tel:813-341-1270 Fax ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
Re: Strange Time issue
Both. * * *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:54 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Are we talking individual ESX hosts or several managed by a VCenter? ** ** *John W. Cook* *System Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *5950 NW 1st Place* *Gainesville, Fl 32607* *Office (352) 244-1610* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP**4, VTSP4* ** ** *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:50 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Strange Time issue ** ** Exactly the problem I've seen at two locations. That's why we moved away from the hosts managing the clock for the guests. *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…* On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Senter, John john.sen...@etrade.com wrote: We kept getting time issues when we had ESX set the time on Windows servers because the domain will adjust the server time and then the ESX system adjust it back. This kept causing the time to go back and forth and it turned out the ESX systems were getting skewed from the NTP source at a greater rate. So let the domain do its thing with the servers by setting time. *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:18 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Strange Time issue All domain machines. All VM guests sync to the ESX hosts. All workstations sync to physical DC’s that use standard Windows time service. *John W. Cook* *System Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *5950 NW 1st Place* *Gainesville, Fl 32607* *Office (352) 244-1610* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4* *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:49 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Strange Time issue Are these domain machines? You don’t sync them to a DC and sync the DC out to an external NTP server? *David Lum* Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:21 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Strange Time issue I actually use the VMWare tools time sync function on the guests and have my hosts sync to north-america.pool.ntp.org. I’m on ESX 4.1 not ESXi *John W. Cook* *System Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *5950 NW 1st Place* *Gainesville, Fl 32607* *Office (352) 244-1610* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4* *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:05 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Strange Time issue As John notes, you should let the guests keep time for themselves, and not get their time from the hosts. *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…* On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Greg Sweers gswe...@acts360.com wrote:** ** We have a single VMware ESXi 4.1 running 1 Windows 2003 R2, and 1 x 2008 R2 server. The 2008 R2 server runs faster. Watching the clock it actually tickets about 3 real seconds to 5 seconds on the clock in the console. Needless to say this puts stuff out of sync pretty quick. Looked online and I found a few posts regarding some weird time services, but nothing Microsoft or VMware. Anyone seen this before? The 2003 Server runs normally. I can resync against the DC and they are out of sync by 15 seconds in under a minute. *Greg Sweers* CEO *ACTS360.com http://www.acts360.com/* *P.O. Box 1193* *Brandon, FL 33509* *813-657-0849 Office* *813-758-6850 Cell* *813-341-1270 Fax* ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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Your bet Saint M, read that one three weeks back to help fix a few issues. On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: The definitive document. J ** ** http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2010/01/29/a-brief-history-of-time-ok-ok-let-s-go-with-quot-an-introduction-to-the-windows-time-service-quot.aspx ** ** Regards, ** ** Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ** ** *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:50 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Strange Time issue ** ** Exactly the problem I've seen at two locations. That's why we moved away from the hosts managing the clock for the guests. *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…* On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Senter, John john.sen...@etrade.com wrote: We kept getting time issues when we had ESX set the time on Windows servers because the domain will adjust the server time and then the ESX system adjust it back. This kept causing the time to go back and forth and it turned out the ESX systems were getting skewed from the NTP source at a greater rate. So let the domain do its thing with the servers by setting time. *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:18 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Strange Time issue All domain machines. All VM guests sync to the ESX hosts. All workstations sync to physical DC’s that use standard Windows time service. *John W. Cook* *System Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *5950 NW 1st Place* *Gainesville, Fl 32607* *Office (352) 244-1610* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4* *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:49 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Strange Time issue Are these domain machines? You don’t sync them to a DC and sync the DC out to an external NTP server? *David Lum* Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:21 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Strange Time issue I actually use the VMWare tools time sync function on the guests and have my hosts sync to north-america.pool.ntp.org. I’m on ESX 4.1 not ESXi *John W. Cook* *System Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *5950 NW 1st Place* *Gainesville, Fl 32607* *Office (352) 244-1610* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4* *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:05 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Strange Time issue As John notes, you should let the guests keep time for themselves, and not get their time from the hosts. *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…* On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Greg Sweers gswe...@acts360.com wrote:** ** We have a single VMware ESXi 4.1 running 1 Windows 2003 R2, and 1 x 2008 R2 server. The 2008 R2 server runs faster. Watching the clock it actually tickets about 3 real seconds to 5 seconds on the clock in the console. Needless to say this puts stuff out of sync pretty quick. Looked online and I found a few posts regarding some weird time services, but nothing Microsoft or VMware. Anyone seen this before? The 2003 Server runs normally. I can resync against the DC and they are out of sync by 15 seconds in under a minute. *Greg Sweers* CEO *ACTS360.com http://www.acts360.com/* *P.O. Box 1193* *Brandon, FL 33509* *813-657-0849 Office* *813-758-6850 Cell* *813-341-1270 Fax* ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
Re: Strange Time issue
I have two servers configured to seek multiple external time sources. Easy enough to manage, and we've had no time sync issues since. * * *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:55 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Single point of failure………. ** ** *John W. Cook* *System Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *5950 NW 1st Place* *Gainesville, Fl 32607* *Office (352) 244-1610* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP**4, VTSP4* ** ** *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:53 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Strange Time issue ** ** I've done the same thing on my hyperV guests...turn off host time sync and have them all sync to the DCs. The FSMO role holder is the only machine syncing to an external time source. On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: Exactly the problem I've seen at two locations. That's why we moved away from the hosts managing the clock for the guests. ** ** *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…* On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Senter, John john.sen...@etrade.com wrote: We kept getting time issues when we had ESX set the time on Windows servers because the domain will adjust the server time and then the ESX system adjust it back. This kept causing the time to go back and forth and it turned out the ESX systems were getting skewed from the NTP source at a greater rate. So let the domain do its thing with the servers by setting time. *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:18 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Strange Time issue All domain machines. All VM guests sync to the ESX hosts. All workstations sync to physical DC’s that use standard Windows time service. *John W. Cook* *System Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *5950 NW 1st Place* *Gainesville, Fl 32607* *Office (352) 244-1610* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4* *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:49 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Strange Time issue Are these domain machines? You don’t sync them to a DC and sync the DC out to an external NTP server? *David Lum* Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:21 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Strange Time issue I actually use the VMWare tools time sync function on the guests and have my hosts sync to north-america.pool.ntp.org. I’m on ESX 4.1 not ESXi *John W. Cook* *System Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *5950 NW 1st Place* *Gainesville, Fl 32607* *Office (352) 244-1610* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4* *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:05 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Strange Time issue As John notes, you should let the guests keep time for themselves, and not get their time from the hosts. *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…* On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Greg Sweers gswe...@acts360.com wrote:** ** We have a single VMware ESXi 4.1 running 1 Windows 2003 R2, and 1 x 2008 R2 server. The 2008 R2 server runs faster. Watching the clock it actually tickets about 3 real seconds to 5 seconds on the clock in the console. Needless to say this puts stuff out of sync pretty quick. Looked online and I found a few posts regarding some weird time services, but nothing Microsoft or VMware. Anyone seen this before? The 2003 Server runs normally. I can resync against the DC and they are out of sync by 15 seconds in under a minute. *Greg Sweers* CEO *ACTS360.com http://www.acts360.com/* *P.O. Box 1193* *Brandon, FL 33509* *813-657-0849 Office* *813-758-6850 Cell* *813-341-1270 Fax* ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Strange Time issue
How thoroughly have you disabled ESX managing the time for the guests? I ask because even though you can switch off time sync in VM tools etc., ESX will *still* resync the guest's time to the host on certain events like VMotion. It can be extremely frustrating to see a perfectly good PDC with multiple NTP peers go off the rails this way... apparently there are some flags that can be added manually to the guest's vmx file to prevent it. --Steve On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: Exactly the problem I've seen at two locations. That's why we moved away from the hosts managing the clock for the guests. * * *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Senter, John john.sen...@etrade.comwrote: We kept getting time issues when we had ESX set the time on Windows servers because the domain will adjust the server time and then the ESX system adjust it back. This kept causing the time to go back and forth and it turned out the ESX systems were getting skewed from the NTP source at a greater rate. So let the domain do its thing with the servers by setting time. ** ** *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:18 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Strange Time issue ** ** All domain machines. All VM guests sync to the ESX hosts. All workstations sync to physical DC’s that use standard Windows time service. ** ** *John W. Cook* *System Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *5950 NW 1st Place* *Gainesville, Fl 32607* *Office (352) 244-1610* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4* ** ** *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:49 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Strange Time issue ** ** Are these domain machines? You don’t sync them to a DC and sync the DC out to an external NTP server? *David Lum* Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:21 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Strange Time issue ** ** I actually use the VMWare tools time sync function on the guests and have my hosts sync to north-america.pool.ntp.org. I’m on ESX 4.1 not ESXi ** ** *John W. Cook* *System Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *5950 NW 1st Place* *Gainesville, Fl 32607* *Office (352) 244-1610* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4* ** ** *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:05 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Strange Time issue ** ** As John notes, you should let the guests keep time for themselves, and not get their time from the hosts. *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…* ** ** On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Greg Sweers gswe...@acts360.com wrote:* *** We have a single VMware ESXi 4.1 running 1 Windows 2003 R2, and 1 x 2008 R2 server. The 2008 R2 server runs faster. Watching the clock it actually tickets about 3 real seconds to 5 seconds on the clock in the console. Needless to say this puts stuff out of sync pretty quick. Looked online and I found a few posts regarding some weird time services, but nothing Microsoft or VMware. Anyone seen this before? The 2003 Server runs normally. I can resync against the DC and they are out of sync by 15 seconds in under a minute. *Greg Sweers* CEO *ACTS360.com http://www.acts360.com/* *P.O. Box 1193* *Brandon, FL 33509* *813-657-0849 Office* *813-758-6850 Cell* *813-341-1270 Fax* ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Strange Time issue
+1, used that doc a couple months ago myself to correct a drift I was getting by letting Hyper-V supply the time to guests. Doing those sets fixed me right up! From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Strange Time issue Your bet Saint M, read that one three weeks back to help fix a few issues. On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: The definitive document. :) http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2010/01/29/a-brief-history-of-time-ok-ok-let-s-go-with-quot-an-introduction-to-the-windows-time-service-quot.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Strange Time issue Exactly the problem I've seen at two locations. That's why we moved away from the hosts managing the clock for the guests. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Senter, John john.sen...@etrade.commailto:john.sen...@etrade.com wrote: We kept getting time issues when we had ESX set the time on Windows servers because the domain will adjust the server time and then the ESX system adjust it back. This kept causing the time to go back and forth and it turned out the ESX systems were getting skewed from the NTP source at a greater rate. So let the domain do its thing with the servers by setting time. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue All domain machines. All VM guests sync to the ESX hosts. All workstations sync to physical DC's that use standard Windows time service. John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610tel:%28352%29%20244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944tel:%28352%29%20215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue Are these domain machines? You don't sync them to a DC and sync the DC out to an external NTP server? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229tel:503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764tel:503.267.9764 From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue I actually use the VMWare tools time sync function on the guests and have my hosts sync to north-america.pool.ntp.orghttp://north-america.pool.ntp.org. I'm on ESX 4.1 not ESXi John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610tel:%28352%29%20244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944tel:%28352%29%20215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Strange Time issue As John notes, you should let the guests keep time for themselves, and not get their time from the hosts. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Greg Sweers gswe...@acts360.commailto:gswe...@acts360.com wrote: We have a single VMware ESXi 4.1 running 1 Windows 2003 R2, and 1 x 2008 R2 server. The 2008 R2 server runs faster. Watching the clock it actually tickets about 3 real seconds to 5 seconds on the clock in the console. Needless to say this puts stuff out of sync pretty quick. Looked online and I found a few posts regarding some weird time services, but nothing Microsoft or VMware. Anyone seen this before? The 2003 Server runs normally. I can resync against the DC and they are out of sync by 15 seconds in under a minute. Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849tel:813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850tel:813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270tel:813-341-1270 Fax ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here:
RE: Strange Time issue
So? Every time the source changes, something gets logged on 2008 and above. And you can turn on logging for 2003. The change doesn't happen by itself. I promise. :) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Greg Sweers [mailto:gswe...@acts360.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 12:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue Well dang..If that doesn't beat all. Everytime I run the resync command the stupid thing goes back to Local CMOS when I run a /query /source. So I set it again, run the /query /source shows the time.windows.com. Run the update, restart services, run the resync..bam back to local cmos. Its just my week for random MS issues... Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270 Fax From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue The definitive document. :) http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2010/01/29/a-brief-history-of-time-ok-ok-let-s-go-with-quot-an-introduction-to-the-windows-time-service-quot.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Strange Time issue Exactly the problem I've seen at two locations. That's why we moved away from the hosts managing the clock for the guests. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Senter, John john.sen...@etrade.commailto:john.sen...@etrade.com wrote: We kept getting time issues when we had ESX set the time on Windows servers because the domain will adjust the server time and then the ESX system adjust it back. This kept causing the time to go back and forth and it turned out the ESX systems were getting skewed from the NTP source at a greater rate. So let the domain do its thing with the servers by setting time. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue All domain machines. All VM guests sync to the ESX hosts. All workstations sync to physical DC's that use standard Windows time service. John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610tel:%28352%29%20244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944tel:%28352%29%20215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue Are these domain machines? You don't sync them to a DC and sync the DC out to an external NTP server? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229tel:503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764tel:503.267.9764 From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue I actually use the VMWare tools time sync function on the guests and have my hosts sync to north-america.pool.ntp.orghttp://north-america.pool.ntp.org. I'm on ESX 4.1 not ESXi John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610tel:%28352%29%20244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944tel:%28352%29%20215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Strange Time issue As John notes, you should let the guests keep time for themselves, and not get their time from the hosts. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Greg Sweers gswe...@acts360.commailto:gswe...@acts360.com wrote: We have a single VMware ESXi 4.1 running 1 Windows 2003 R2, and 1 x 2008 R2 server. The 2008 R2 server runs faster. Watching the clock it actually tickets about 3 real seconds to 5 seconds on the clock in the console. Needless to say this puts stuff out of sync pretty quick. Looked online and I found a few posts regarding some weird time services, but nothing Microsoft or VMware. Anyone seen this before? The 2003 Server runs normally. I can resync against the DC and they are out of sync by 15 seconds in under a minute. Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849tel:813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850tel:813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270tel:813-341-1270
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Pinky swear?? As my two year old came home for the first time last week and said to me when I promised him a snack... I will turn on the logging and let you know, I am really curious to see what is changing that. Am I wrong in thinking this is 2 issues. 1.The clock physically running fast. Independent of time sync 2. Time sync changing from external to Local CMOS when running a w32tm /resync /rediscover commands. Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270 Fax From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 12:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue So? Every time the source changes, something gets logged on 2008 and above. And you can turn on logging for 2003. The change doesn't happen by itself. I promise. :) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Greg Sweers [mailto:gswe...@acts360.com]mailto:[mailto:gswe...@acts360.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 12:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue Well dang..If that doesn't beat all. Everytime I run the resync command the stupid thing goes back to Local CMOS when I run a /query /source. So I set it again, run the /query /source shows the time.windows.com. Run the update, restart services, run the resync..bam back to local cmos. Its just my week for random MS issues... Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270 Fax From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue The definitive document. :) http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2010/01/29/a-brief-history-of-time-ok-ok-let-s-go-with-quot-an-introduction-to-the-windows-time-service-quot.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Strange Time issue Exactly the problem I've seen at two locations. That's why we moved away from the hosts managing the clock for the guests. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Senter, John john.sen...@etrade.commailto:john.sen...@etrade.com wrote: We kept getting time issues when we had ESX set the time on Windows servers because the domain will adjust the server time and then the ESX system adjust it back. This kept causing the time to go back and forth and it turned out the ESX systems were getting skewed from the NTP source at a greater rate. So let the domain do its thing with the servers by setting time. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue All domain machines. All VM guests sync to the ESX hosts. All workstations sync to physical DC's that use standard Windows time service. John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610tel:%28352%29%20244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944tel:%28352%29%20215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue Are these domain machines? You don't sync them to a DC and sync the DC out to an external NTP server? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229tel:503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764tel:503.267.9764 From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue I actually use the VMWare tools time sync function on the guests and have my hosts sync to north-america.pool.ntp.orghttp://north-america.pool.ntp.org. I'm on ESX 4.1 not ESXi John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610tel:%28352%29%20244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944tel:%28352%29%20215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Strange Time issue As John notes, you should let the guests keep time for themselves, and not get their time from the hosts. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Greg Sweers
Re: Strange Time issue
*Note *Peers is a placeholder for a space-delimited list of peers from which your computer obtains time stamps. Each DNS name that is listed must be unique. You must append ,0x1 to the end of each DNS name. If you do not append ,0x1 to the end of each DNS name, the changes made in step 5 will not take effect. This was my issue...had to append the 0x1 On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote: Your bet Saint M, read that one three weeks back to help fix a few issues. On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: The definitive document. J ** ** http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2010/01/29/a-brief-history-of-time-ok-ok-let-s-go-with-quot-an-introduction-to-the-windows-time-service-quot.aspx ** ** Regards, ** ** Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ** ** *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:50 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Strange Time issue ** ** Exactly the problem I've seen at two locations. That's why we moved away from the hosts managing the clock for the guests. *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…* On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Senter, John john.sen...@etrade.com wrote: We kept getting time issues when we had ESX set the time on Windows servers because the domain will adjust the server time and then the ESX system adjust it back. This kept causing the time to go back and forth and it turned out the ESX systems were getting skewed from the NTP source at a greater rate. So let the domain do its thing with the servers by setting time. *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:18 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Strange Time issue All domain machines. All VM guests sync to the ESX hosts. All workstations sync to physical DC’s that use standard Windows time service. *John W. Cook* *System Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *5950 NW 1st Place* *Gainesville, Fl 32607* *Office (352) 244-1610* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4* *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:49 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Strange Time issue Are these domain machines? You don’t sync them to a DC and sync the DC out to an external NTP server? *David Lum* Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:21 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Strange Time issue I actually use the VMWare tools time sync function on the guests and have my hosts sync to north-america.pool.ntp.org. I’m on ESX 4.1 not ESXi *John W. Cook* *System Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *5950 NW 1st Place* *Gainesville, Fl 32607* *Office (352) 244-1610* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4* *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:05 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Strange Time issue As John notes, you should let the guests keep time for themselves, and not get their time from the hosts. *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…* On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Greg Sweers gswe...@acts360.com wrote:* *** We have a single VMware ESXi 4.1 running 1 Windows 2003 R2, and 1 x 2008 R2 server. The 2008 R2 server runs faster. Watching the clock it actually tickets about 3 real seconds to 5 seconds on the clock in the console. Needless to say this puts stuff out of sync pretty quick. Looked online and I found a few posts regarding some weird time services, but nothing Microsoft or VMware. Anyone seen this before? The 2003 Server runs normally. I can resync against the DC and they are out of sync by 15 seconds in under a minute. *Greg Sweers* CEO *ACTS360.com http://www.acts360.com/* *P.O. Box 1193* *Brandon, FL 33509* *813-657-0849 Office* *813-758-6850 Cell* *813-341-1270 Fax* ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the
RE: Strange Time issue
Thanks Steve, I ran this and my time sync source set correctly. No more going back to Local CMOS for the /query /source command. Now to just figure out why this darn clock is running to its own drumbeat... Since none of my other devices are doing this and its only these 2 virtuals on this one host. I am going to move it to a different hardware. Needs to be swapped anyway. If that doesn't do it, I will start offering up the incentives. :) This is what I ran. w32tm /config /update /manualpeerlist:pool.ntp.org,0x1 /syncfromflags:MANUAL /reliable:YES w32tm /config /update net stop w32time net start w32time w32tm /resync /rediscover Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270 Fax From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 12:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Strange Time issue Note Peers is a placeholder for a space-delimited list of peers from which your computer obtains time stamps. Each DNS name that is listed must be unique. You must append ,0x1 to the end of each DNS name. If you do not append ,0x1 to the end of each DNS name, the changes made in step 5 will not take effect. This was my issue...had to append the 0x1 On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.commailto:stevey...@gmail.com wrote: Your bet Saint M, read that one three weeks back to help fix a few issues. On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: The definitive document. :) http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2010/01/29/a-brief-history-of-time-ok-ok-let-s-go-with-quot-an-introduction-to-the-windows-time-service-quot.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Strange Time issue Exactly the problem I've seen at two locations. That's why we moved away from the hosts managing the clock for the guests. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Senter, John john.sen...@etrade.commailto:john.sen...@etrade.com wrote: We kept getting time issues when we had ESX set the time on Windows servers because the domain will adjust the server time and then the ESX system adjust it back. This kept causing the time to go back and forth and it turned out the ESX systems were getting skewed from the NTP source at a greater rate. So let the domain do its thing with the servers by setting time. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue All domain machines. All VM guests sync to the ESX hosts. All workstations sync to physical DC's that use standard Windows time service. John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610tel:%28352%29%20244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944tel:%28352%29%20215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue Are these domain machines? You don't sync them to a DC and sync the DC out to an external NTP server? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229tel:503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764tel:503.267.9764 From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange Time issue I actually use the VMWare tools time sync function on the guests and have my hosts sync to north-america.pool.ntp.orghttp://north-america.pool.ntp.org. I'm on ESX 4.1 not ESXi John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610tel:%28352%29%20244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944tel:%28352%29%20215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Strange Time issue As John notes, you should let the guests keep time for themselves, and not get their time from the hosts. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Greg Sweers gswe...@acts360.commailto:gswe...@acts360.com wrote: We have a single VMware ESXi 4.1 running 1 Windows 2003 R2, and 1 x 2008 R2 server. The 2008 R2 server runs faster. Watching the clock it actually tickets about 3 real seconds to 5 seconds on the clock in the console.
Re: Strange Time issue
I have a script to manage that whole process... http://kb.ultratech-llc.com/Scripts/?File=SetTimeSync.BAT It relies on the following as well: - http://kb.ultratech-llc.com/Scripts/?File=SetDrive.BAT - *http://KB.UltraTech-llc.com/Scripts/Input/?File=CustomVariables.TXT http://kb.ultratech-llc.com/Scripts/Input/?File=CustomVariables.TXT* * * *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote: *Note *Peers is a placeholder for a space-delimited list of peers from which your computer obtains time stamps. Each DNS name that is listed must be unique. You must append ,0x1 to the end of each DNS name. If you do not append ,0x1 to the end of each DNS name, the changes made in step 5 will not take effect. This was my issue...had to append the 0x1 On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote: Your bet Saint M, read that one three weeks back to help fix a few issues. On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: The definitive document. J ** ** http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2010/01/29/a-brief-history-of-time-ok-ok-let-s-go-with-quot-an-introduction-to-the-windows-time-service-quot.aspx ** ** Regards, ** ** Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ** ** *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:50 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Strange Time issue ** ** Exactly the problem I've seen at two locations. That's why we moved away from the hosts managing the clock for the guests. *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…* On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Senter, John john.sen...@etrade.com wrote: We kept getting time issues when we had ESX set the time on Windows servers because the domain will adjust the server time and then the ESX system adjust it back. This kept causing the time to go back and forth and it turned out the ESX systems were getting skewed from the NTP source at a greater rate. So let the domain do its thing with the servers by setting time. *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:18 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Strange Time issue All domain machines. All VM guests sync to the ESX hosts. All workstations sync to physical DC’s that use standard Windows time service. *John W. Cook* *System Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *5950 NW 1st Place* *Gainesville, Fl 32607* *Office (352) 244-1610* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4* *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:49 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Strange Time issue Are these domain machines? You don’t sync them to a DC and sync the DC out to an external NTP server? *David Lum* Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:21 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Strange Time issue I actually use the VMWare tools time sync function on the guests and have my hosts sync to north-america.pool.ntp.org. I’m on ESX 4.1 not ESXi *John W. Cook* *System Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *5950 NW 1st Place* *Gainesville, Fl 32607* *Office (352) 244-1610* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4* *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:05 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Strange Time issue As John notes, you should let the guests keep time for themselves, and not get their time from the hosts. *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…* On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Greg Sweers gswe...@acts360.com wrote: We have a single VMware ESXi 4.1 running 1 Windows 2003 R2, and 1 x 2008 R2 server. The 2008 R2 server runs faster. Watching the clock it actually tickets about 3 real seconds to 5 seconds on the clock in the console. Needless to say this puts stuff out of sync pretty quick. Looked online and I found a few posts regarding some weird time services, but nothing Microsoft or VMware. Anyone seen this before? The 2003 Server runs normally. I can resync against the DC and they are out of sync by 15
RE: trouble downloading Adobe Flash Player
Thank you! From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: trouble downloading Adobe Flash Player Kindly provided by someone else on this list once (Thanks to whomever :) I use this all the time now. C:\Program Files (x86)\GnuWin32\bin\wget.exe http://www.adobe.com/go/full_flashplayer_win_pl_msi C:\Program Files (x86)\GnuWin32\bin\wget.exe http://www.adobe.com/go/full_flashplayer_win_msi Sam From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:jt...@teachtci.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: trouble downloading Adobe Flash Player Anyone else having this issue in IE 8 or FF 5? I get the installer downloaded and run it. The installer then downloads the app and it stops at 12% during the download. Thanks, Jimmy ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
same IP printer - two different print servers
I've researched this and it appears to be okay to do, but something keeps telling me it seems too easy I'm in the process of retiring an old print server, but with most of the faculty not back yet I need to keep the printers 'live' on both servers. I'd like to set up different share names for the same printers on the new server and change the networked printers for faculty as they arrive back on campus. Anyone ever done this? Any issues? -- Organization and good planning are just crutches for people that can't handle stress and caffeine. - unknown ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: same IP printer - two different print servers
With the exception of centralized reporting/logging, it is indeed as easy as it sound. No problem with having 2 print servers point to the same printer... We've done lots of migrations that way... *** Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.org Kingman, AZ *** -Original Message- From: Vicky Spelshaus [mailto:vicky.spelsh...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: same IP printer - two different print servers I've researched this and it appears to be okay to do, but something keeps telling me it seems too easy I'm in the process of retiring an old print server, but with most of the faculty not back yet I need to keep the printers 'live' on both servers. I'd like to set up different share names for the same printers on the new server and change the networked printers for faculty as they arrive back on campus. Anyone ever done this? Any issues? -- Organization and good planning are just crutches for people that can't handle stress and caffeine. - unknown ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: same IP printer - two different print servers
Thanks - I needed the second opinion as I kept second guessing myself! On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.orgwrote: With the exception of centralized reporting/logging, it is indeed as easy as it sound. No problem with having 2 print servers point to the same printer... We've done lots of migrations that way... *** Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.org Kingman, AZ *** -Original Message- From: Vicky Spelshaus [mailto:vicky.spelsh...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: same IP printer - two different print servers I've researched this and it appears to be okay to do, but something keeps telling me it seems too easy I'm in the process of retiring an old print server, but with most of the faculty not back yet I need to keep the printers 'live' on both servers. I'd like to set up different share names for the same printers on the new server and change the networked printers for faculty as they arrive back on campus. Anyone ever done this? Any issues? -- Organization and good planning are just crutches for people that can't handle stress and caffeine. - unknown ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Organization and good planning are just crutches for people that can't handle stress and caffeine. - unknown ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: same IP printer - two different print servers
Wow you're good, I don't stop at seconds guessing myself, I sometimes make it to ace - 5 times guessing myself! From: Vicky Spelshaus [mailto:vicky.spelsh...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: same IP printer - two different print servers Thanks - I needed the second opinion as I kept second guessing myself! On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.orgmailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org wrote: With the exception of centralized reporting/logging, it is indeed as easy as it sound. No problem with having 2 print servers point to the same printer... We've done lots of migrations that way... *** Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.orgmailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org Kingman, AZ *** -Original Message- From: Vicky Spelshaus [mailto:vicky.spelsh...@gmail.commailto:vicky.spelsh...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: same IP printer - two different print servers I've researched this and it appears to be okay to do, but something keeps telling me it seems too easy I'm in the process of retiring an old print server, but with most of the faculty not back yet I need to keep the printers 'live' on both servers. I'd like to set up different share names for the same printers on the new server and change the networked printers for faculty as they arrive back on campus. Anyone ever done this? Any issues? -- Organization and good planning are just crutches for people that can't handle stress and caffeine. - unknown ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Organization and good planning are just crutches for people that can't handle stress and caffeine. - unknown ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Strange Time issue
Is the clock on the host running fast? If it's not, then it can't be physically running fast on the guest. On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Greg Sweers gswe...@acts360.com wrote: Pinky swear?? As my two year old came home for the first time last week and said to me when I promised him a snack… ** ** I will turn on the logging and let you know, I am really curious to see what is changing that. ** ** Am I wrong in thinking this is 2 issues. ** ** **1. ** The clock physically running fast. Independent of time sync **2. **Time sync changing from external to Local CMOS when running a w32tm /resync /rediscover commands. ** ** ** ** ** ** *Greg Sweers* CEO *ACTS360.com http://www.acts360.com/*** *P.O. Box 1193* *Brandon, FL 33509* *813-657-0849 Office* *813-758-6850 Cell* *813-341-1270 Fax* ** ** *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 12:09 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Strange Time issue ** ** So? Every time the source changes, something gets logged on 2008 and above. And you can turn on logging for 2003. The change doesn’t happen by itself. ** ** I promise. J ** ** Regards, ** ** Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/ ** ** *From:* Greg Sweers [mailto:gswe...@acts360.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 12:04 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Strange Time issue ** ** Well dang..If that doesn’t beat all. Everytime I run the resync command the stupid thing goes back to Local CMOS when I run a /query /source. So I set it again, run the /query /source shows the time.windows.com. ** ** Run the update, restart services, run the resync..bam back to local cmos.* *** ** ** Its just my week for random MS issues… ** ** *Greg Sweers* CEO *ACTS360.com http://www.acts360.com/*** *P.O. Box 1193* *Brandon, FL 33509* *813-657-0849 Office* *813-758-6850 Cell* *813-341-1270 Fax* ** ** *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:55 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Strange Time issue ** ** The definitive document. J ** ** http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2010/01/29/a-brief-history-of-time-ok-ok-let-s-go-with-quot-an-introduction-to-the-windows-time-service-quot.aspx ** ** Regards, ** ** Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/ ** ** *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:50 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Strange Time issue ** ** Exactly the problem I've seen at two locations. That's why we moved away from the hosts managing the clock for the guests. *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…* ** ** On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Senter, John john.sen...@etrade.com wrote: We kept getting time issues when we had ESX set the time on Windows servers because the domain will adjust the server time and then the ESX system adjust it back. This kept causing the time to go back and forth and it turned out the ESX systems were getting skewed from the NTP source at a greater rate. So let the domain do its thing with the servers by setting time. *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:18 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Strange Time issue All domain machines. All VM guests sync to the ESX hosts. All workstations sync to physical DC’s that use standard Windows time service. *John W. Cook* *System Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *5950 NW 1st Place* *Gainesville, Fl 32607* *Office (352) 244-1610* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4* *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:49 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Strange Time issue Are these domain machines? You don’t sync them to a DC and sync the DC out to an external NTP server? *David Lum* Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:21 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Strange Time issue I actually use the VMWare tools time sync function on the guests and have my hosts sync to north-america.pool.ntp.org. I’m on ESX 4.1 not ESXi *John W. Cook* *System Administrator* *Partnership For
RE: Delegation of Control in Windows 2008 R2 DFL/FFL questions
Thanks Bonnie, I will be putting those in on my Computers Container and representative OU that I am going to be doing moving forward and see how the testing goes accordingly. I am sure my workstation group might not like it that much, but this should have been done along time ago. Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Delegation of Control in Windows 2008 R2 DFL/FFL questions Was out on vacation last week (if painting counts as vacation 8), but if you didn't already find them, here's what we have. I also went with a group like Jon, so we could put our repair technicians in there, and for anyone else down the road who needs to have the privilege added/removed. For each high-level container, add detailed permissions for that group: Object tab Apply to: Descendant Computer Objects Read all properties Allow Write all properties Allow Delete Allow Reset Password Allow Object tab Apply to: This object and all descendant objects Create Computer objects Allow Delete Computer objects Allow From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 8:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Delegation of Control in Windows 2008 R2 DFL/FFL questions I went with putting a group into the default domain GPO that was able to add machines. I did that originally because I had been told that the office manager needed to add machines as they arrived. Shortly after that I management told me never mind the office manager did not want the extra work. Left the group in there and only put the two non-admin user id's of us that would be adding machines into it. We had DA status but when moving machines around the office we used our regular accounts. These were usually stored machines that were way out of production kept for emergencies. Jon On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org wrote: To the list, Been reading up on delegation of control wizard, and it seems that it can be customized as per http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308404 And there are additional templates in the following document: Best Practices for Delegating Active Directory Administration Appendices http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/confirmation.aspx?id=20145 Can these be applied through the Windows 7 RSAT tools to a Windows 2008 R2 DFL/FFL domain? Secondly, does anyone have the specific permissions that need to be granted to the Computers Container so that a specific group can join computers to the domain ( and pop them out) as needed, so I can remove these users from Domain Admins. ( I know create and delete computer objects is needed, but I am sure there are a few others I don't know about) The same set of users would be moving the computer accounts to other OU's which they will have read/write access too accordingly. I also got this off Jorge's Blog http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/archive/2006/01/05/369.aspx (Right now in Windows 7, the Delegwiz.inf file in the c:\windows\system32 directory and not in %windows%\inf as stated. Does this section just need to be added to the delegwiz.inf file and save it and it shows up in the ADUC MMC snapin when doing delegation of control next time? This way you can delegate the creation of computer accounts to group1 and the joining of the computers to group2. It is also however possible you have a group of people who create computers accounts and also join them. To able so everyone in that group can create a computer accounts and join the computers to the domain independent who created the computer accounts replace TEMPLATE 6 with what is mentioned below or perform the delegate twice with the additional task created above! If you want to join a computer to the domain in a specific OU and the computer account has not been pre-created you cannot use the GUI at the computer. For this you must use the tool NETDOM so you can specify the OU the computer account must reside in! The latter only is only possible when you at least have the right to create a computer object in the designated OU. Joining will also be possible because you automatically become the owner of the computer account! ;-- [template6] AppliesToClasses = domainDNS,organizationalUnit,container Description = Add and/or join a computer to the domain in an OU (computer) ObjectTypes = SCOPE, computer [template6.SCOPE] ;Right to create computer objects computer=CC [template6.computer] ;Right to join computers to domain CONTROLRIGHT= Reset Password,Validated write to DNS host name,Validated write to service principal name, Account Restrictions Thanks for the replies in advance, EZ Edward E. Ziots CISSP,
Adding 2008 DC to child domain
Hey all, I have a client who has 2 2003 servers and one of them is about to die. They have a primary domain and a child domain in the same forest. We're replacing the dying server, which happens to be the child domain controller, with a 2008 DC. I've adprep'd the forest, added the 2008 server to the domain (it only gave me the option to add it to the forest top level domain) and have configured DNS and copied data. I can see the child domain from ADUC and can replicate through Sites and Services. The problem is I can't log in or add this server as a domain controller under the child domain. It sees it okay but it will not let me log into it or administer it through ADUC from the dying controller. Whenever I try to connect to it through ADUC on the child DC, it just gives me the message that the new DC is under the main domain and do I want to administer that domain, which I don't of course. I haven't been able to find anything Googly - only how to create a DC and how to create a child domain in general. Anyone have a direction I can try? Thanks, Jay ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Adding 2008 DC to child domain
You need to dcpromo the 2008 DC down and dcpromo it into the child domain... Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132 From: Jay Dale [mailto:jd...@unetek.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Adding 2008 DC to child domain Hey all, I have a client who has 2 2003 servers and one of them is about to die. They have a primary domain and a child domain in the same forest. We're replacing the dying server, which happens to be the child domain controller, with a 2008 DC. I've adprep'd the forest, added the 2008 server to the domain (it only gave me the option to add it to the forest top level domain) and have configured DNS and copied data. I can see the child domain from ADUC and can replicate through Sites and Services. The problem is I can't log in or add this server as a domain controller under the child domain. It sees it okay but it will not let me log into it or administer it through ADUC from the dying controller. Whenever I try to connect to it through ADUC on the child DC, it just gives me the message that the new DC is under the main domain and do I want to administer that domain, which I don't of course. I haven't been able to find anything Googly - only how to create a DC and how to create a child domain in general. Anyone have a direction I can try? Thanks, Jay ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: move DHCP backwards, 2008 to 2003
Not sure whether it's actually supported, but most of those errors that I've seen on import (going to the same version or newer) are related to options that don't exist or are not configured. For example, if you have an option set up on the 2008 server, but that option doesn't exist in the 2003, it has to be added before you could attempt to import the DB. Or, if you already have an option configured with a value on the new 2003 server, you might have to remove it first for the import to work. From: Rick Berry [mailto:rbe...@elevativenetworks.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: move DHCP backwards, 2008 to 2003 Can one move DHCP backwards from 2008 to 2003? I'm doing netsh dhcp server export/import, coming from an AD SBS box that is moving elsewhere to a standalone 2003 non-AD box. the request is not supported is what I get for netsh dhcp server import c:\dhcp.txt all ... but I am indeed a local admin, etc etc Am I broken because I'm trying to do something unsupported? Presuming that the 2008 DHCP export isn't perhaps compatible with 2003 DHCP, would like positive confirmation of that supposition if someone here knows. Or perhaps it's an easy fix ... basically trying to preserve reservations/etc on four scopes, I don't care about the overall DHCP db really ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Split Scope DHCP on 2008 R2?
I just want to be sure that I understand this feature correctly before I get too excited and look at upgrading our DC's to 2008 R2. I have 2 DHCP servers, let's call them PRI and SEC. I also want to use reservations but in an outage the reservations are something I could live without having available. So I setup DHCP on PRI and configure the reservations. I setup DHCP on SEC with no reservations. I then configure split-scope on PRI using the wizard, and tell it to set the delay on SEC to 1000ms. I now have two DHCP servers, but so long as PRI is running it will always service requests first? Paul -- MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Split Scope DHCP on 2008 R2?
Yes. * * *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * 2011/8/9 Paul Hutchings paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk I just want to be sure that I understand this feature correctly before I get too excited and look at upgrading our DC's to 2008 R2. I have 2 DHCP servers, let's call them PRI and SEC. I also want to use reservations but in an outage the reservations are something I could live without having available. So I setup DHCP on PRI and configure the reservations. I setup DHCP on SEC with no reservations. I then configure split-scope on PRI using the wizard, and tell it to set the delay on SEC to 1000ms. I now have two DHCP servers, but so long as PRI is running it will always service requests first? Paul -- *MIRA Ltd* ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Split Scope DHCP on 2008 R2?
Remember the delay is just so the primary DHCP ack's first. This is the work around so they don't compete. If your DHCP server is sluggish or busy you may have to up the time period a little, and at the same time make sure the clients don't give up (this is quite a while for pc's but sometimes printers/voip devices give up quicker). From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 2:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Split Scope DHCP on 2008 R2? I just want to be sure that I understand this feature correctly before I get too excited and look at upgrading our DC's to 2008 R2. I have 2 DHCP servers, let's call them PRI and SEC. I also want to use reservations but in an outage the reservations are something I could live without having available. So I setup DHCP on PRI and configure the reservations. I setup DHCP on SEC with no reservations. I then configure split-scope on PRI using the wizard, and tell it to set the delay on SEC to 1000ms. I now have two DHCP servers, but so long as PRI is running it will always service requests first? Paul MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Barebones Server based on Sandy Bridge (LGA 1155)
You only add hard drives which are external via hotswap trays in many of the SM barebone units, processor and RAM. It's hardly building compared to a whitebox. To each their own. -- Mike Gill From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 3:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Barebones Server based on Sandy Bridge (LGA 1155) I did spec one out, but I'm really not interested in building it out. As it is, I've just ordered a few motherboards to replace some motherboard issues in other systems, so I'll have quite enough system building to go around. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market. On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Mike Gill lis...@canbyfoursquare.com wrote: It's a Supermicro. Plenty of those on Newegg. Hit them up and spec it yourself. -- Mike From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 4:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Barebones Server based on Sandy Bridge (LGA 1155) Getting closer: http://www.globalcomputer.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpN o=411709 http://www.globalcomputer.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?Edp No=411709csid=ITDbody=MAIN#productresources csid=ITDbody=MAIN#productresources ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market. On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to put together a new server for the home network based on the Sandy Bridge processor (say, Xeon E3-12xx series). I'm feeling lazy and would prefer to go with a barebones systems, but I'm pretty much finding older combinations for the motherboards (LGA 1366 / 1156) Anyone still regularly putting together their own servers and have a recommendation for a vendor? Even SuperMicro has slim pickings right now. I'm building these primarily for virtualization, and will be putting 16GB RAM and a pair of mirrored SATA drives. The problem might be my insistence on a tower chassis... Or, I might have to build myself a server from desktop parts. Sigh. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
