RE: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or Vulnerabilities?
I use the second to last recommendation in the blog post but I would tell my mom to buy an iPhone. :-) BTW here is a recent article I was interviewed in talking about mobile malware and related. http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/100311-malware-251426.html?page=1 Main point being something I have said for years that we will start to see the explosion in mobile malware increase as the mobile phone continues to replace our wallet. Funny enough even CNN is finally catching on years later and ran a front page story about that exact topic except of course they mentioned nothing about security. Then again seeing the total lack of process and structure around security as shown by the HTC and Samsung vulnerabilities it is just more signs that technology companies for the most part continue to do security as an afterthought. I can dig up a few 10 year old rants on that topic but I digress... :-) -Marc Signed, Marc Maiffret Founder/CTO eEye Digital Security WEB: http://www.eEye.com BLOG: http://blog.eeye.com TWITTER: http://twitter.com/marcmaiffret -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or Vulnerabilities? So, does this mean your smartphone is an iphone? Bill Marc Maiffret wrote: I thought some of the NTSYSADMIN'ers would enjoy this post as I saw the HTC vuln. was mentioned the other day here. http://blog.eeye.com/vulnerability-management/android_security If nothing else fun hack to mess with your HTC/Samsung Android using co-workers. :-) -Marc Signed, Marc Maiffret Founder/CTO eEye Digital Security WEB: http://www.eEye.com BLOG: http://blog.eeye.com TWITTER: http://twitter.com/marcmaiffret ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or Vulnerabilities?
I couldn't agree more. I love the other posters comments (sorry memory isn't working) about WP7 looking to be a good blend of the good of Android and iPhone for the two different reasons stated previously. You are right about iOS that it definitely just performs better than Android. I think WP7 is on par from a general does it just work well but way a head from a UI/experience perspective. The Nokia releases should be in November, so not to long now. I had a Samsung Focus WP7 device and absolutely loved it but went back to my Android device as the lack of multi-tasking and commonly used applications was something I could not live without. Now that Mango is basically out I am just waiting for Nokia and others to launch their Mango based phones and I have a feeling I will be switching back. Both because I really do with WP7 is the best of both worlds as it relates to Android and iPhone and also because as someone whom stills like to write code (as a hobby, smarter guys at eEye write the code these days!) there is absolutely no comparison to the joy of developing in C# in Visual Studio vs. something like Objective C in X Code or Android Eclipse plugins etc... While talking about this space in none security terms (although I think WP7 will stand strong on security, it has a solid foundation in WinCE) I know MS has made many mistakes in the mobile market but at the end of the day 3 things matter: 1. Do they have a good product? Yes, WP7 is absolutely solid (especially now with Mango) and just a completely different UI experience that is absolutely stunning when leveraged by the right applications 2. Do they have a channel and manufacturing partners to leverage to get the product to market? Yes, Microsoft absolutely crushes in this area and has a lot of leverage not to mention cash to throw at companies like Nokia to go all in on WP7. 3. Do they have a large enough developer community? Yes, this is another area that Microsoft is king. And in fact they are doing a lot of things to make transitioning their legion of C# Windows OS developers over to WP7 in an easy way. I won't even get into Windows 8 and all the dynamics that brings to their WP7 market, but it is not anything to laugh at. 4. Wild Card - I think Microsoft is in the market for a long haul. The reality is that they CANNOT lose the mobile space as the game has changed to not just be consumers driving business choices anymore but more so consumer mobile devices in the future driving businesses. This is already happening even now with the latest OSX and Windows 8 releases where they are creating AppStores and all of the other things learned from the mobile world. The reality is that YOUR users want their desktop computing experience to be a lot more like what they get on their iPad and indeed it will be increasingly more difficult in the future to be a successful desktop OS manufacture if you are not a strong player in the mobile space. Alright, too much coffee and I need to get to sleep for tomorrows eEye vulnerability expert form which if you have not checked out is me and the research guys basically nerding out about the latest MS patches, whats happening in security and also going to discuss some recent Android (ha!) vulnerabilities that illustrate how manufactures are really screwing things up for Google. http://www.eeye.com/vef -Marc -Original Message- From: David Liu [mailto:ganymed...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or Vulnerabilities? Marc, I think you hit the nail right on the head. Apple charges expensively for the design but the innards are the same as other cheaply made (or wose) knock-off substandard phones. But there _is_ somethingt o be said for the iOS subsystem as it was designed/written not only for usability but efficient use of memory/processing. On the ipad (gen 1 even) I've never seen a lag as I have on the Android counterpart (Acer A500 is what I have to compare to). I am excited about WinMo phones just not sure if I could wait another year :) Am currently looking @ all the HTC models and wanting to see if we can get work to foot the bill until the next hardware release from MS/Nokia camp. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:12 AM, Marc Maiffret mmaiff...@eeye.com wrote: I would wait until the phones from Nokia come out. They should have some pretty solid unibody designs that give iPhone a run for its money. Regardless of OS the iPhone still is the best designed phone but like their laptops (which I run windows on) you get what you pay for with Apple hardware. Wait until the end of the year (November even) and Nokia and others should have some other new phones out for WP7 that will rock. HTC has a couple of new ones, but I think Nokia will out do them hardware wise... -Marc Signed, Marc Maiffret
RE: AV and malware protection?
Random factoid, anyone see that there was a vulnerability patched today that ONLY affected IE9? And it is reliable code execution. We are discussing it on eEye's VEF tomorrow, its pretty silly awesome. -Marc -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 9:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: AV and malware protection? On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Alan Davies adav...@cls-services.com wrote: Why on earth would you encourage users not to use IE!? Again, FUD mostly - IE is one of, if not the most secure browser out there out of the box. While I haven't seen MSIE 9 yet, I know MSIE 8 still had what I would consider woefully insecure defaults with regards to it's Security tab settings, especially regarding ActiveX controls. Now, I regard ActiveX as a really bad idea to begin with -- allowing a web page to push binary executables to my PC is *not* a good idea, IMO, and I think history would support me on this one -- but if you're going to allow it, you need something a bit better than just requiring a bit of crypto thrown at it. More reasonable would be denying install to anything but Trusted Sites. If the user can't type the site name that's a fair bet they shouldn't be installing it, one way or the other. There are a number of other things, too, such as the ability to run an EXE from the web in two clicks, or allowing scripts to manipulate the browser window (Firefox does that too, I might add). Currently, a lot of it is academic, since the popular vectors today are Flash and Acrobat, but if Adobe ever gets their act together I expect we'll see renewed interest in browser security design. Firefox not so great. Speaking of FUD, care to explain that? -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: AV and malware protection?
All good, APT is a legitimate term like so many that start out legitimate and then are used and abused by security companies to the point where the term becomes confused and dirty. Even a lot of APT can actually be stopped rather easily. Aurora for example could have been defeated simply by enforcing all outbound network traffic to traverse through a web proxy. The malware used in Aurora was not proxy aware. Stuxnet is another that is easy to defeat with good technical security best practices. One of the privilege escalation vulnerabilities it used could be prevented, and therefore prevent the subsequent chain of events, simply by having good file permissions. And these are not magical permissions that you would have had to know about Stuxnet to implement but rather best practices that in fact some companies I know already had. For example one of our customers that is a bank with over a half million windows systems had this file permissions configuration in place and so when Stuxnet was discovered instead of having to drop everything and patch over a half million systems they were already mitigated and could patch as part of their regular cycle. Don't get me wrong there is plenty of APT, and even general cybercrime attacks, that are very difficult but there have been few attacks ever, APT included, that could not have been prevented in a generic and reasonable way. The problem is our industry celebrates people who break software more than people who help educate what you can do to be more secure (beyond a product). And that is not to say we should celebrate the researchers doing vulnerability research less but rather to celebrate people doing innovative and educational things around protection more. We actually have a white paper on the topic of security configuration best practices and examples of how some of these basic things can go very far in stopping even APT and other sophisticated attacks. You can grab that paper eEye Research Report: In Configuration We Trust from our website here: http://www.eeye.com/resources/literature/white-papers We also have a webinar with myself and one of my researchers giving a bit of an overview of the white paper that you can view here On the Frontline of the Threat Landscape http://www.eeye.com/resources/media-center/webinars-podcasts Your last point Alan is a good one on how are we going to get better... Sadly in the 13+ years I have been in this space it seems we only get better through pain. But then as I discuss in a keynote I have been giving at conferences lately, I do not think this is a IT/security problem but rather something rooted deeper in basic human nature and our inability to be proactive without pain etc... -Marc -Original Message- From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 4:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: AV and malware protection? Agree wholeheartedly for the majority of threats. The only exception I'd make is for APT (sorry to mention buzzwords!!). Security through obscurity can be a very valid defence against undirected attacks (and probably most directed ones too), but a little social engineering, insider knowledge, etc. and it doesn't matter so much anymore. Stuxnet was a good example. What matters are the real controls in place, your people and your processes. On your last comment Marc, I do worry how we are ever going to get to a scenario where businesses in general are well protected since only very few, through either extraordinary diligence of their own doing, or through regulatory necessity, make that time or care about that level of knowledge (aka funds!). PCI perhaps is at least a start in terms of introducing some of these concepts to otherwise unregulated verticals. a From: Marc Maiffret [mailto:mmaiff...@eeye.com] Sent: 11 October 2011 01:28 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: AV and malware protection? The reality is that most IT environments are all using one of the 2-4 popular AV products. One of the 5-6 popular network firewalls. This makes it so that the ease at which an attacker can setup a test lab to mimic the average business and ensure their attack will be successful is a very easy thing. In order to be successful in today's IT security environment you need to customize security to your specific environment. If you spend even a reasonable amount of time customizing your security at the OS and network level you can prevent the vast majority of attacks. This is not opinion but fact. Problem is that most people in IT have not been given the time or education by management to be able to do this successfully so alas everyone just installs a product and hopes it works. Likewise the attacker installs the product, makes sure their exploit works, and does not abide by hope. Now of course you could have the time and knowledge and not a product
RE: AV and malware protection?
Ahhh .. good stuff. I wonder if your guys can hack Russian submarines off the coast of Cornwall by tapping the keyboard a bit until the first firewall falls, then just talking Russion to it! Mind you, we still haven't figured out how to bind an iBook to an alien spacecraft like your lot ... -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: 11 October 2011 21:22 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: AV and malware protection? On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Alan Davies adav...@cls-services.com wrote: A ... that must be like in Spooks where they search their master criminal mugshot collection via a terminal that graphically displays every mugshot they're comparing to one by one .. really quickly! [UK reference to BBC spy series Spooks for those scratching their heads!] It's okay -- spy computers work that way in Hollywood, too. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin WARNING: The information in this email and any attachments is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the named addressee, you must not use, copy or disclose this email (including any attachments) or the information in it save to the named addressee nor take any action in reliance on it. If you receive this email or any attachments in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete the same and any copies. CLS Services Ltd × Registered in England No 4132704 × Registered Office: Exchange Tower × One Harbour Exchange Square × London E14 9GE ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or Vulnerabilities?
Excellent points, Marc While I'm still in wait-n-see mode with WP7[1], I am reasonably confident that Microsoft will continue to forge ahead because they recognize the importance of mobile to their overall, long-term success. The consumerization of IT is not a fad, despite how annoying that concept may be to some of us... * * *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * [1] Hey, when did this stop being WordPerfect 7? :) On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:10 AM, Marc Maiffret mmaiff...@eeye.com wrote: I couldn't agree more. I love the other posters comments (sorry memory isn't working) about WP7 looking to be a good blend of the good of Android and iPhone for the two different reasons stated previously. You are right about iOS that it definitely just performs better than Android. I think WP7 is on par from a general does it just work well but way a head from a UI/experience perspective. The Nokia releases should be in November, so not to long now. I had a Samsung Focus WP7 device and absolutely loved it but went back to my Android device as the lack of multi-tasking and commonly used applications was something I could not live without. Now that Mango is basically out I am just waiting for Nokia and others to launch their Mango based phones and I have a feeling I will be switching back. Both because I really do with WP7 is the best of both worlds as it relates to Android and iPhone and also because as someone whom stills like to write code (as a hobby, smarter guys at eEye write the code these days!) there is absolutely no comparison to the joy of developing in C# in Visual Studio vs. something like Objective C in X Code or Android Eclipse plugins etc... While talking about this space in none security terms (although I think WP7 will stand strong on security, it has a solid foundation in WinCE) I know MS has made many mistakes in the mobile market but at the end of the day 3 things matter: 1. Do they have a good product? Yes, WP7 is absolutely solid (especially now with Mango) and just a completely different UI experience that is absolutely stunning when leveraged by the right applications 2. Do they have a channel and manufacturing partners to leverage to get the product to market? Yes, Microsoft absolutely crushes in this area and has a lot of leverage not to mention cash to throw at companies like Nokia to go all in on WP7. 3. Do they have a large enough developer community? Yes, this is another area that Microsoft is king. And in fact they are doing a lot of things to make transitioning their legion of C# Windows OS developers over to WP7 in an easy way. I won't even get into Windows 8 and all the dynamics that brings to their WP7 market, but it is not anything to laugh at. 4. Wild Card - I think Microsoft is in the market for a long haul. The reality is that they CANNOT lose the mobile space as the game has changed to not just be consumers driving business choices anymore but more so consumer mobile devices in the future driving businesses. This is already happening even now with the latest OSX and Windows 8 releases where they are creating AppStores and all of the other things learned from the mobile world. The reality is that YOUR users want their desktop computing experience to be a lot more like what they get on their iPad and indeed it will be increasingly more difficult in the future to be a successful desktop OS manufacture if you are not a strong player in the mobile space. Alright, too much coffee and I need to get to sleep for tomorrows eEye vulnerability expert form which if you have not checked out is me and the research guys basically nerding out about the latest MS patches, whats happening in security and also going to discuss some recent Android (ha!) vulnerabilities that illustrate how manufactures are really screwing things up for Google. http://www.eeye.com/vef -Marc -Original Message- From: David Liu [mailto:ganymed...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or Vulnerabilities? Marc, I think you hit the nail right on the head. Apple charges expensively for the design but the innards are the same as other cheaply made (or wose) knock-off substandard phones. But there _is_ somethingt o be said for the iOS subsystem as it was designed/written not only for usability but efficient use of memory/processing. On the ipad (gen 1 even) I've never seen a lag as I have on the Android counterpart (Acer A500 is what I have to compare to). I am excited about WinMo phones just not sure if I could wait another year :) Am currently looking @ all the HTC models and wanting to see if we can get work to foot the bill until the next hardware release from MS/Nokia camp. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:12 AM, Marc Maiffret mmaiff...@eeye.com wrote: I would wait until the
Re: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or Vulnerabilities?
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: ... WP7[1] ... [1] Hey, when did this stop being WordPerfect 7? :) Around the same time the F1 stopped meaning Cancel and started meaning Help. ;) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood?
VLC. I changed to that and now it's the only media player I use on any of my systems. Dunno if it works in Linux, but it's on all my Windows boxes. John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com 10/8/2011 12:48 PM On Sat October 8 2011, you wrote: Hi John, In my case (just a home user) it was on my system from installing Winamp. Neil |¬D Yeah. As soon as I saw that on the list, I removed WinAmp. I've got another app that I'm going to try out in it's place, called SnackAmp. Not sure I like it much. I might have to stick to just using Windows Media Player under Windows and XMMS under Linux. :( -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or Vulnerabilities?
Windows Phone is a central part of Microsoft's future strategy around a seamless, blurred endpoint, encompassing any internet-connected device. Just look at Windows 8. This is the OS platform for phones, desktops, tablets, TVs, whatever. With Blackberry dying a slow and somewhat comical death, Android being incapable of being used in a true corporate environment (it's ridiculously insecure) and iPhone being a non-enterprise product (you want every user to have to login with an iTunes account??), Microsoft has a real chance here. I am betting on Windows Phone as a dark horse. It has a real shot of capturing the enterprise, replacing Blackberry. If they can make it free and cheap for the masses (cost, high level of functionality and wide availability being major drivers behind Android's success), it gets really interesting. Alex From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 7:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or Vulnerabilities? Excellent points, Marc While I'm still in wait-n-see mode with WP7[1], I am reasonably confident that Microsoft will continue to forge ahead because they recognize the importance of mobile to their overall, long-term success. The consumerization of IT is not a fad, despite how annoying that concept may be to some of us... ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... [1] Hey, when did this stop being WordPerfect 7? :) On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:10 AM, Marc Maiffret mmaiff...@eeye.commailto:mmaiff...@eeye.com wrote: I couldn't agree more. I love the other posters comments (sorry memory isn't working) about WP7 looking to be a good blend of the good of Android and iPhone for the two different reasons stated previously. You are right about iOS that it definitely just performs better than Android. I think WP7 is on par from a general does it just work well but way a head from a UI/experience perspective. The Nokia releases should be in November, so not to long now. I had a Samsung Focus WP7 device and absolutely loved it but went back to my Android device as the lack of multi-tasking and commonly used applications was something I could not live without. Now that Mango is basically out I am just waiting for Nokia and others to launch their Mango based phones and I have a feeling I will be switching back. Both because I really do with WP7 is the best of both worlds as it relates to Android and iPhone and also because as someone whom stills like to write code (as a hobby, smarter guys at eEye write the code these days!) there is absolutely no comparison to the joy of developing in C# in Visual Studio vs. something like Objective C in X Code or Android Eclipse plugins etc... While talking about this space in none security terms (although I think WP7 will stand strong on security, it has a solid foundation in WinCE) I know MS has made many mistakes in the mobile market but at the end of the day 3 things matter: 1. Do they have a good product? Yes, WP7 is absolutely solid (especially now with Mango) and just a completely different UI experience that is absolutely stunning when leveraged by the right applications 2. Do they have a channel and manufacturing partners to leverage to get the product to market? Yes, Microsoft absolutely crushes in this area and has a lot of leverage not to mention cash to throw at companies like Nokia to go all in on WP7. 3. Do they have a large enough developer community? Yes, this is another area that Microsoft is king. And in fact they are doing a lot of things to make transitioning their legion of C# Windows OS developers over to WP7 in an easy way. I won't even get into Windows 8 and all the dynamics that brings to their WP7 market, but it is not anything to laugh at. 4. Wild Card - I think Microsoft is in the market for a long haul. The reality is that they CANNOT lose the mobile space as the game has changed to not just be consumers driving business choices anymore but more so consumer mobile devices in the future driving businesses. This is already happening even now with the latest OSX and Windows 8 releases where they are creating AppStores and all of the other things learned from the mobile world. The reality is that YOUR users want their desktop computing experience to be a lot more like what they get on their iPad and indeed it will be increasingly more difficult in the future to be a successful desktop OS manufacture if you are not a strong player in the mobile space. Alright, too much coffee and I need to get to sleep for tomorrows eEye vulnerability expert form which if you have not checked out is me and the research guys basically nerding out about the latest MS patches, whats happening in security and also going to discuss some recent Android (ha!) vulnerabilities that illustrate how manufactures are really screwing things up for Google.
RE: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood?
Just went to the download link. Looks like there’s a Linux version. From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 9:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood? VLC. I changed to that and now it's the only media player I use on any of my systems. Dunno if it works in Linux, but it's on all my Windows boxes. John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.commailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com 10/8/2011 12:48 PM On Sat October 8 2011, you wrote: Hi John, In my case (just a home user) it was on my system from installing Winamp. Neil |¬D Yeah. As soon as I saw that on the list, I removed WinAmp. I've got another app that I'm going to try out in it's place, called SnackAmp. Not sure I like it much. I might have to stick to just using Windows Media Player under Windows and XMMS under Linux. :( -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood?
Works very well on TS/RDS/XenApp servers from what I see on other mailing lists and forums. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/ From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 9:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood? VLC. I changed to that and now it's the only media player I use on any of my systems. Dunno if it works in Linux, but it's on all my Windows boxes. John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.commailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com 10/8/2011 12:48 PM On Sat October 8 2011, you wrote: Hi John, In my case (just a home user) it was on my system from installing Winamp. Neil |¬D Yeah. As soon as I saw that on the list, I removed WinAmp. I've got another app that I'm going to try out in it's place, called SnackAmp. Not sure I like it much. I might have to stick to just using Windows Media Player under Windows and XMMS under Linux. :( ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Hosted Exchange, migration to Google APPS.
I have a small client non profits, currently with hosted exchange, I am in the process making a document, how I long the project will take. 6 mail boxes, one distribution group, and each holds about 2 gigs per mailbox. I figure downtime, would be 4 hours, I will make down time of 6 hours. Would I be able to still receive emails, during the migration? Anyone have moved from exchange to Google Apps, any gotchas? Thanks -- Justin IT-TECH ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: intermedia.net (outage)
Storage array for Hosted exchange Server is down, no ETA. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:27 AM, Lists - Level Five li...@levelfive.uswrote: I have a couple of clients using them before we did our own hosting and never migrated them over. None of them have called in or reported being down… ** ** *From:* Hugo Hernandez [mailto:h...@futureads.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, October 11, 2011 5:12 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: intermedia.net (outage) ** ** We have the hosted Exchange 2010 business package with Intermedia and have been using them for over a year with only one minor outage a few months back. They are pretty responsive and usually handle any issues I have rather quickly. What is tech support telling you? ** ** Hugo Hernandez IT Manager * * FUTURE ADS LLC ** ** * E-mail:* *h...@futureads.com The information contained in this email message is PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION intended only for the use of the individual or entity it was directly addressed to. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us by email. Thank you. ** ** *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, October 11, 2011 1:52 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* intermedia.net (outage) ** ** I have a hosted exchange pakcage with intermedia.net, but since yeterday it been down? Any had any history with outages with intermedia.net?? Thanks -- Justin IT-TECH ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Justin IT-TECH ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Anyone using DPM?
In what ways was it confusing to setup? I've been using CommVault and Netbackup for the last couple of years... how is DPM different/same to these products? Jesse Rink jesse-r...@wi.rr.com 10/11/2011 6:21 PM I’ve recently used it at a customer for about 2 months now. I find the product to be really good in some areas, but severely lacking (mainly documentation, and getting help troubleshooting specific problems) in other areas. For me, it was very confusing to setup/configure and really understand what is going on and how backups work – coming from 10+ years using Backup Exec or other products. I’m still on the fence whether I like DPM or not. J From:Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 3:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Anyone using DPM? That's Data Protection Manager Any experiences are welcome. Do you like it? Hate it? How big is your deployment? Any field servers involved? How does it compare to Netbackup and/or CommVault? (those are the other two I'm personally familiar with) Thanks, Joe ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Hosted Exchange, migration to Google APPS.
I gave up moving my CarlWebster.com stuff to Google Apps. Tried twice. Once Office 365 went live, I moved and was done after St. Michael answered a DNS question for me. Total time to move was like less than 15 minutes. It took 16 hours to migrate my 5GB PST up. I have since deleted about half of that. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/ From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Subject: Hosted Exchange, migration to Google APPS. I have a small client non profits, currently with hosted exchange, I am in the process making a document, how I long the project will take. 6 mail boxes, one distribution group, and each holds about 2 gigs per mailbox. I figure downtime, would be 4 hours, I will make down time of 6 hours. Would I be able to still receive emails, during the migration? Anyone have moved from exchange to Google Apps, any gotchas? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: RIM Outages NYC?
Actually, all over the planetIt is just now spreading to North America. Hopefully the backlog will begin to clear now that they've gotten their core switch replaced, but only time will tell. http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/12/tech/mobile/blackberry-outage/index.html?hpt=hp_c2 Jonathan On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: All over North America. ** ** ** ** *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:02 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RIM Outages NYC? ** ** Rim Outages NYC? -- Justin IT-TECH ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Jonathan, A+, MCSA, MCSE ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: OT - Blackberry Outage
Yes, have been all morning. No mail or web browsing. VZ says it's affecting all BB's system wide. They also said we would be up 2 hours ago, ha ha. From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT - Blackberry Outage The 3 day outage is now causing issues in the US. We have had several users report problems this morning both on Verizon and ATT. Anyone else in the US seeing issues? BF ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: OT - Blackberry Outage
It's happening here in Southern Indiana. Weird, some users are working and some are not. From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT - Blackberry Outage The 3 day outage is now causing issues in the US. We have had several users report problems this morning both on Verizon and ATT. Anyone else in the US seeing issues? BF ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OT - Blackberry Outage
We have some users with the issue here in California and Nevada. It looks to be close to 50% of my users that are currently affected by this. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.comwrote: It’s happening here in Southern Indiana. Weird, some users are working and some are not. ** ** *From:* Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:09 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* OT - Blackberry Outage ** ** The 3 day outage is now causing issues in the US. We have had several users report problems this morning both on Verizon and ATT. ** ** Anyone else in the US seeing issues? ** ** BF ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Thank you, Mike Sullivan ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OT - Blackberry Outage
It's also now spread to Canada and is affecting all of my BB users (Toronto area) On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.comwrote: It’s happening here in Southern Indiana. Weird, some users are working and some are not. ** ** *From:* Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:09 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* OT - Blackberry Outage ** ** The 3 day outage is now causing issues in the US. We have had several users report problems this morning both on Verizon and ATT. ** ** Anyone else in the US seeing issues? ** ** BF ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood?
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov wrote: VLC. I changed to that and now it's the only media player I use on any of my systems. Dunno if it works in Linux, but it's on all my Windows boxes. It works well on Linux. Indeed, it started in the *nix world. :) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood?
Shush. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov wrote: VLC. I changed to that and now it's the only media player I use on any of my systems. Dunno if it works in Linux, but it's on all my Windows boxes. It works well on Linux. Indeed, it started in the *nix world. :) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OT - Blackberry Outage
RIM has an outage banner on their home page. Users report sporadic email, at best. SMS works. Our BES says it's had contact with the handhelds and RIM's servers, but Pending Data Packets is steadily increasing and Forwarded Messages is barely moving. (We're on Verizon, homed in North-East US.) According to the CNN article, RIM's core switch died, and the failover didn't. They fixed the switch issues, but now their system is overloaded due to the backlog. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OT - Blackberry Outage
Sms is controlled by the carrier. -- Sent from Kaiten Mail for Android. Please excuse my brevity. Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: RIM has an outage banner on their home page. Users report sporadic email, at best. SMS works. Our BES says it's had contact with the handhelds and RIM's servers, but Pending Data Packets is steadily increasing and Forwarded Messages is barely moving. (We're on Verizon, homed in North-East US.) According to the CNN article, RIM's core switch died, and the failover didn't. They fixed the switch issues, but now their system is overloaded due to the backlog. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/; ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: OT - Blackberry Outage
Hello All, Snip from RIM website below. Summary: failure of testing redundant systems and not having enough redundant capacity. Have numerous clients with BBs on BES across US, and have random users affected. I just alerted all my clients to the problems. I'm a big believer in the BB functionality, but I only see one way the BB platform will go, and it's sadly not up. I wish the BB hardware natively supported direct ActiveSync functionality. -Ben Tuesday 11th October - 21:30 (GMT+1) The messaging and browsing delays that some of you are still experiencing were caused by a core switch failure within RIM's infrastructure. Although the system is designed to failover to a back-up switch, the failover did not function as previously tested. As a result, a large backlog of data was generated and we are now working to clear that backlog and restore normal service as quickly as possible. We sincerely apologise for the inconvenience caused to many of you and we will continue to keep you informed. http://www.rim.com/newsroom/service-update.shtml -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - Blackberry Outage RIM has an outage banner on their home page. Users report sporadic email, at best. SMS works. Our BES says it's had contact with the handhelds and RIM's servers, but Pending Data Packets is steadily increasing and Forwarded Messages is barely moving. (We're on Verizon, homed in North-East US.) According to the CNN article, RIM's core switch died, and the failover didn't. They fixed the switch issues, but now their system is overloaded due to the backlog. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: AV and malware protection?
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:05 AM, Alan Davies adav...@cls-services.comwrote: Mind you, we still haven't figured out how to bind an iBook to an alien spacecraft like your lot ... Somewhere there is a vendor who has a class on how that is done. We're not allowed to teach it outside the US. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Staff training
This may be a little OT, but I was just pricing out some training for 3 staff here with the idea of sending them to some classroom training for Windows 7 and Server 2008 administration. If I target the courses related to MCITP Enterprise Desktop Administrator on Windows 7 certification and the MCITP Server Administrator on Windows Server 2008 certification, (and this is from ONLC because they have a local office, but New Horizons seems to be about the same) the appropriate courses include three five day courses and one three day course. The total cost at their published prices would be almost $27,000 for three staff. I don't think I can get that through our budget process. For those who provide training for staff development, is this kind of classroom training the way to go? Are there other alternatives for classroom training, or do you use other training resources such as video training from places like Trainsignal? I'm looking for a bit of a reality check, as well as suggestions. We haven't provided this kind of staff training up to now, so I have no experience in this area. For myself I have relied on Google Training and some good books, but I was looking for something more formal/structured. Appreciate any comments and advice. Ralph ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: RIM Outages NYC?
All over... * * *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:01 AM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.comwrote: Rim Outages NYC? -- Justin IT-TECH ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Staff training
The value of classroom training is completely dependent on the instructor. An instructor who knows what the heck s/he is talking about and has real experience in the product is invaluable. An instructor who reviewed the MOC and ran through it the weekend before the class started and has little-to-no real experience is worthless. As an instructor myself, I've sat through both kinds of training classes. I would say that the number you quote is just a little on the high side, but it's in line with a quality training class. Some people learn better in a classroom environment. Others learn better with books. Others (like me) learn best by setting up a lab and trashing and rebuilding and testing and breaking and fixing the product several dozen times. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Staff training This may be a little OT, but I was just pricing out some training for 3 staff here with the idea of sending them to some classroom training for Windows 7 and Server 2008 administration. If I target the courses related to MCITP Enterprise Desktop Administrator on Windows 7 certification and the MCITP Server Administrator on Windows Server 2008 certification, (and this is from ONLC because they have a local office, but New Horizons seems to be about the same) the appropriate courses include three five day courses and one three day course. The total cost at their published prices would be almost $27,000 for three staff. I don't think I can get that through our budget process. For those who provide training for staff development, is this kind of classroom training the way to go? Are there other alternatives for classroom training, or do you use other training resources such as video training from places like Trainsignal? I'm looking for a bit of a reality check, as well as suggestions. We haven't provided this kind of staff training up to now, so I have no experience in this area. For myself I have relied on Google Training and some good books, but I was looking for something more formal/structured. Appreciate any comments and advice. Ralph ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Staff training
For training by instructors who fit the first description, I'd highly recommend Robert Vaughn's organization at http://internetworkingdynamics.com/ If I have my way, I'll go to training there before I'd go anywhere else. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Staff training The value of classroom training is completely dependent on the instructor. An instructor who knows what the heck s/he is talking about and has real experience in the product is invaluable. An instructor who reviewed the MOC and ran through it the weekend before the class started and has little-to-no real experience is worthless. As an instructor myself, I've sat through both kinds of training classes. I would say that the number you quote is just a little on the high side, but it's in line with a quality training class. Some people learn better in a classroom environment. Others learn better with books. Others (like me) learn best by setting up a lab and trashing and rebuilding and testing and breaking and fixing the product several dozen times. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Staff training This may be a little OT, but I was just pricing out some training for 3 staff here with the idea of sending them to some classroom training for Windows 7 and Server 2008 administration. If I target the courses related to MCITP Enterprise Desktop Administrator on Windows 7 certification and the MCITP Server Administrator on Windows Server 2008 certification, (and this is from ONLC because they have a local office, but New Horizons seems to be about the same) the appropriate courses include three five day courses and one three day course. The total cost at their published prices would be almost $27,000 for three staff. I don't think I can get that through our budget process. For those who provide training for staff development, is this kind of classroom training the way to go? Are there other alternatives for classroom training, or do you use other training resources such as video training from places like Trainsignal? I'm looking for a bit of a reality check, as well as suggestions. We haven't provided this kind of staff training up to now, so I have no experience in this area. For myself I have relied on Google Training and some good books, but I was looking for something more formal/structured. Appreciate any comments and advice. Ralph ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Staff training
Others (like me) learn best by setting up a lab and trashing and rebuilding and testing and breaking and fixing the product several dozen times. Sounds like our production environment! -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 9:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Staff training The value of classroom training is completely dependent on the instructor. An instructor who knows what the heck s/he is talking about and has real experience in the product is invaluable. An instructor who reviewed the MOC and ran through it the weekend before the class started and has little-to-no real experience is worthless. As an instructor myself, I've sat through both kinds of training classes. I would say that the number you quote is just a little on the high side, but it's in line with a quality training class. Some people learn better in a classroom environment. Others learn better with books. Others (like me) learn best by setting up a lab and trashing and rebuilding and testing and breaking and fixing the product several dozen times. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Staff training This may be a little OT, but I was just pricing out some training for 3 staff here with the idea of sending them to some classroom training for Windows 7 and Server 2008 administration. If I target the courses related to MCITP Enterprise Desktop Administrator on Windows 7 certification and the MCITP Server Administrator on Windows Server 2008 certification, (and this is from ONLC because they have a local office, but New Horizons seems to be about the same) the appropriate courses include three five day courses and one three day course. The total cost at their published prices would be almost $27,000 for three staff. I don't think I can get that through our budget process. For those who provide training for staff development, is this kind of classroom training the way to go? Are there other alternatives for classroom training, or do you use other training resources such as video training from places like Trainsignal? I'm looking for a bit of a reality check, as well as suggestions. We haven't provided this kind of staff training up to now, so I have no experience in this area. For myself I have relied on Google Training and some good books, but I was looking for something more formal/structured. Appreciate any comments and advice. Ralph ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or Vulnerabilities?
LOL Fine. :) * * *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: ... WP7[1] ... [1] Hey, when did this stop being WordPerfect 7? :) Around the same time the F1 stopped meaning Cancel and started meaning Help. ;) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Staff training
I agree with most of what Michael already outlined. I'd also like to point out that there are employee's who see that type of formal training as a vacation from work. and really get nothing out of it. You should also evaluate and try to quantify what you or your company is trying to get out of this. For example, is the need to have a certain number of in house employees with MCITP certification? If that is the business driver, then at least you know what the requirements are. If not, then trying a combination of multiple forms of training might make more sense. You could license one of the video series, and have the employees work from home for a week to complete the course, for a fraction of that $27000 figure. You could also consider the Boot Camps, which virtually guarantee certification, but at a much higher cost. Chris Bodnar, MCSE, MCITP Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 From: Ralph Smith m...@gatewayindustries.org To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: 10/12/2011 12:17 PM Subject:Staff training This may be a little OT, but I was just pricing out some training for 3 staff here with the idea of sending them to some classroom training for Windows 7 and Server 2008 administration. If I target the courses related to MCITP Enterprise Desktop Administrator on Windows 7 certification and the MCITP Server Administrator on Windows Server 2008 certification, (and this is from ONLC because they have a local office, but New Horizons seems to be about the same) the appropriate courses include three five day courses and one three day course. The total cost at their published prices would be almost $27,000 for three staff. I don't think I can get that through our budget process. For those who provide training for staff development, is this kind of classroom training the way to go? Are there other alternatives for classroom training, or do you use other training resources such as video training from places like Trainsignal? I'm looking for a bit of a reality check, as well as suggestions. We haven't provided this kind of staff training up to now, so I have no experience in this area. For myself I have relied on Google Training and some good books, but I was looking for something more formal/structured. Appreciate any comments and advice. Ralph ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Staff training
I've given you recommendations on how to fix that. :-) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Staff training Others (like me) learn best by setting up a lab and trashing and rebuilding and testing and breaking and fixing the product several dozen times. Sounds like our production environment! -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 9:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Staff training The value of classroom training is completely dependent on the instructor. An instructor who knows what the heck s/he is talking about and has real experience in the product is invaluable. An instructor who reviewed the MOC and ran through it the weekend before the class started and has little-to-no real experience is worthless. As an instructor myself, I've sat through both kinds of training classes. I would say that the number you quote is just a little on the high side, but it's in line with a quality training class. Some people learn better in a classroom environment. Others learn better with books. Others (like me) learn best by setting up a lab and trashing and rebuilding and testing and breaking and fixing the product several dozen times. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Staff training This may be a little OT, but I was just pricing out some training for 3 staff here with the idea of sending them to some classroom training for Windows 7 and Server 2008 administration. If I target the courses related to MCITP Enterprise Desktop Administrator on Windows 7 certification and the MCITP Server Administrator on Windows Server 2008 certification, (and this is from ONLC because they have a local office, but New Horizons seems to be about the same) the appropriate courses include three five day courses and one three day course. The total cost at their published prices would be almost $27,000 for three staff. I don't think I can get that through our budget process. For those who provide training for staff development, is this kind of classroom training the way to go? Are there other alternatives for classroom training, or do you use other training resources such as video training from places like Trainsignal? I'm looking for a bit of a reality check, as well as suggestions. We haven't provided this kind of staff training up to now, so I have no experience in this area. For myself I have relied on Google Training and some good books, but I was looking for something more formal/structured. Appreciate any comments and advice. Ralph ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Staff training
Others (like me) learn best by setting up a lab and trashing and rebuilding and testing and breaking and fixing the product several dozen times. Put me in that category. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:23:29 -0700 Subject: RE: Staff training The value of classroom training is completely dependent on the instructor. An instructor who knows what the heck s/he is talking about and has real experience in the product is invaluable. An instructor who reviewed the MOC and ran through it the weekend before the class started and has little-to-no real experience is worthless. As an instructor myself, I've sat through both kinds of training classes. I would say that the number you quote is just a little on the high side, but it's in line with a quality training class. Some people learn better in a classroom environment. Others learn better with books. Others (like me) learn best by setting up a lab and trashing and rebuilding and testing and breaking and fixing the product several dozen times. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Staff training This may be a little OT, but I was just pricing out some training for 3 staff here with the idea of sending them to some classroom training for Windows 7 and Server 2008 administration. If I target the courses related to MCITP Enterprise Desktop Administrator on Windows 7 certification and the MCITP Server Administrator on Windows Server 2008 certification, (and this is from ONLC because they have a local office, but New Horizons seems to be about the same) the appropriate courses include three five day courses and one three day course. The total cost at their published prices would be almost $27,000 for three staff. I don't think I can get that through our budget process. For those who provide training for staff development, is this kind of classroom training the way to go? Are there other alternatives for classroom training, or do you use other training resources such as video training from places like Trainsignal? I'm looking for a bit of a reality check, as well as suggestions. We haven't provided this kind of staff training up to now, so I have no experience in this area. For myself I have relied on Google Training and some good books, but I was looking for something more formal/structured. Appreciate any comments and advice. Ralph ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Hosted Exchange, migration to Google APPS.
Highly dependent on how much bandwidth you have available. Not to Google Apps, but I migrated a user to a hosted service, he had a 12G mailbox on an 896K uplink, took him about a week to completely sync up. David On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: I gave up moving my CarlWebster.com stuff to Google Apps. Tried twice. Once Office 365 went live, I moved and was done after St. Michael answered a DNS question for me. Total time to move was like less than 15 minutes. It took 16 hours to migrate my 5GB PST up. I have since deleted about half of that. ** ** ** ** Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/ ** ** *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] *Subject:* Hosted Exchange, migration to Google APPS. ** ** I have a small client non profits, currently with hosted exchange, I am in the process making a document, how I long the project will take. 6 mail boxes, one distribution group, and each holds about 2 gigs per mailbox. I figure downtime, would be 4 hours, I will make down time of 6 hours. Would I be able to still receive emails, during the migration? Anyone have moved from exchange to Google Apps, any gotchas? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- David _ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. * * ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Staff training
For an intro, I prefer a class. That often gives me a nice framework to build out and experiment from. If necessary I can pound it out purely from a OOK BUILD LAB OOK MAKE THINGS OOK BREAK THINGS BAM BAM BAM ME BUILD GUD! I definitaly can learn purely from a lab, but like to get the broad overview first. It gets me away from work and home to somewhere I can get my feet wet with just the product for a couple of days. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.orgwrote: Others (like me) learn best by setting up a lab and trashing and rebuilding and testing and breaking and fixing the product several dozen times. Put me in that category. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:23:29 -0700 Subject: RE: Staff training The value of classroom training is completely dependent on the instructor. An instructor who knows what the heck s/he is talking about and has real experience in the product is invaluable. An instructor who reviewed the MOC and ran through it the weekend before the class started and has little-to-no real experience is worthless. As an instructor myself, I've sat through both kinds of training classes. I would say that the number you quote is just a little on the high side, but it's in line with a quality training class. Some people learn better in a classroom environment. Others learn better with books. Others (like me) learn best by setting up a lab and trashing and rebuilding and testing and breaking and fixing the product several dozen times. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Staff training This may be a little OT, but I was just pricing out some training for 3 staff here with the idea of sending them to some classroom training for Windows 7 and Server 2008 administration. If I target the courses related to MCITP Enterprise Desktop Administrator on Windows 7 certification and the MCITP Server Administrator on Windows Server 2008 certification, (and this is from ONLC because they have a local office, but New Horizons seems to be about the same) the appropriate courses include three five day courses and one three day course. The total cost at their published prices would be almost $27,000 for three staff. I don't think I can get that through our budget process. For those who provide training for staff development, is this kind of classroom training the way to go? Are there other alternatives for classroom training, or do you use other training resources such as video training from places like Trainsignal? I'm looking for a bit of a reality check, as well as suggestions. We haven't provided this kind of staff training up to now, so I have no experience in this area. For myself I have relied on Google Training and some good books, but I was looking for something more formal/structured. Appreciate any comments and advice. Ralph ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Staff training
We have a local company that we use for most of our training. We were able, a few years ago, to buy vouchers. We put our annual training budget into these, and are able to use them whenever, without expiration. Then, we watch their weekly newsletter, and book classes at the last minute, which gets us a substantial discount. Ralph Smith m...@gatewayindustries.org 10/12/2011 9:16 AM This may be a little OT, but I was just pricing out some training for 3 staff here with the idea of sending them to some classroom training for Windows 7 and Server 2008 administration. If I target the courses related to MCITP Enterprise Desktop Administrator on Windows 7 certification and the MCITP Server Administrator on Windows Server 2008 certification, (and this is from ONLC because they have a local office, but New Horizons seems to be about the same) the appropriate courses include three five day courses and one three day course. The total cost at their published prices would be almost $27,000 for three staff. I don't think I can get that through our budget process. For those who provide training for staff development, is this kind of classroom training the way to go? Are there other alternatives for classroom training, or do you use other training resources such as video training from places like Trainsignal? I'm looking for a bit of a reality check, as well as suggestions. We haven't provided this kind of staff training up to now, so I have no experience in this area. For myself I have relied on Google Training and some good books, but I was looking for something more formal/structured. Appreciate any comments and advice. Ralph ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Hosted Exchange, migration to Google APPS.
I moved a client from SBS to Google apps. Uploading/syncing old mail took forever for every user. This was on a cable connection. The unexpected slowness of the sync added a couple of days to the project. Bill David wrote: Highly dependent on how much bandwidth you have available. Not to Google Apps, but I migrated a user to a hosted service, he had a 12G mailbox on an 896K uplink, took him about a week to completely sync up. David On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: I gave up moving my CarlWebster.com stuff to Google Apps. Tried twice. Once Office 365 went live, I moved and was done after St. Michael answered a DNS question for me. Total time to move was like less than 15 minutes. It took 16 hours to migrate my 5GB PST up. I have since deleted about half of that. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/ *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] *Subject:* Hosted Exchange, migration to Google APPS. I have a small client non profits, currently with hosted exchange, I am in the process making a document, how I long the project will take. 6 mail boxes, one distribution group, and each holds about 2 gigs per mailbox. I figure downtime, would be 4 hours, I will make down time of 6 hours. Would I be able to still receive emails, during the migration? Anyone have moved from exchange to Google Apps, any gotchas? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- David _ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. / / ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Hosted Exchange, migration to Google APPS.
I was on a project to outsource Exchange once, it started in March and it might even finish before December... From: David [mailto:blazer...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 9:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Hosted Exchange, migration to Google APPS. Highly dependent on how much bandwidth you have available. Not to Google Apps, but I migrated a user to a hosted service, he had a 12G mailbox on an 896K uplink, took him about a week to completely sync up. David On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.commailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: I gave up moving my CarlWebster.com stuff to Google Apps. Tried twice. Once Office 365 went live, I moved and was done after St. Michael answered a DNS question for me. Total time to move was like less than 15 minutes. It took 16 hours to migrate my 5GB PST up. I have since deleted about half of that. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/ From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.commailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Subject: Hosted Exchange, migration to Google APPS. I have a small client non profits, currently with hosted exchange, I am in the process making a document, how I long the project will take. 6 mail boxes, one distribution group, and each holds about 2 gigs per mailbox. I figure downtime, would be 4 hours, I will make down time of 6 hours. Would I be able to still receive emails, during the migration? Anyone have moved from exchange to Google Apps, any gotchas? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- David _ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Hosted Exchange, migration to Google APPS.
Unless your provider gets smacked across the head with a clue-bat, I wouldn't bet on that. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hosted Exchange, migration to Google APPS. I was on a project to outsource Exchange once, it started in March and it might even finish before December... From: David [mailto:blazer...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:blazer...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 9:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Hosted Exchange, migration to Google APPS. Highly dependent on how much bandwidth you have available. Not to Google Apps, but I migrated a user to a hosted service, he had a 12G mailbox on an 896K uplink, took him about a week to completely sync up. David On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.commailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: I gave up moving my CarlWebster.com stuff to Google Apps. Tried twice. Once Office 365 went live, I moved and was done after St. Michael answered a DNS question for me. Total time to move was like less than 15 minutes. It took 16 hours to migrate my 5GB PST up. I have since deleted about half of that. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/ From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.commailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Subject: Hosted Exchange, migration to Google APPS. I have a small client non profits, currently with hosted exchange, I am in the process making a document, how I long the project will take. 6 mail boxes, one distribution group, and each holds about 2 gigs per mailbox. I figure downtime, would be 4 hours, I will make down time of 6 hours. Would I be able to still receive emails, during the migration? Anyone have moved from exchange to Google Apps, any gotchas? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- David _ My short term goal is to make it through the day. My long term goal is to string a bunch of short term goals together. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: RIM Outages NYC?
What will this do to RIM? Will Admin move to mobile IRON and ios or android or windows mobile? Is mobile iron just as good as BES? On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: All over... ** *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:01 AM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.comwrote: Rim Outages NYC? -- Justin IT-TECH ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Justin IT-TECH ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: RIM Outages NYC?
Short term they will have a lot of explaining to do but hopefully it press them to rethink their strategy. Use BP and their oil rig explosion as an example. While many of us are aggravated with the issue I doubt many business that are heavily invested will make any changes - Android is not secure enough for a lot of RIMs customers and I doubt that this will push much IPhone in those areas. From a security standpoint the BES is still the king of the mountain, for how long remains to be seen. John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office/Fax (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: RIM Outages NYC? What will this do to RIM? Will Admin move to mobile IRON and ios or android or windows mobile? Is mobile iron just as good as BES? On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com wrote: All over... ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:01 AM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.commailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com wrote: Rim Outages NYC? -- Justin IT-TECH ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Justin IT-TECH ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: RIM Outages NYC?
What did the one #Blackberry user say to the other?..nothing, Good point On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:12 PM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Short term they will have a lot of explaining to do but hopefully it press them to rethink their strategy. Use BP and their oil rig explosion as an example. While many of us are aggravated with the issue I doubt many business that are heavily invested will make any changes – Android is not secure enough for a lot of RIMs customers and I doubt that this will push much IPhone in those areas. From a security standpoint the BES is still the king of the mountain, for how long remains to be seen. ** ** *John W. Cook* *System Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *5950 NW 1st Place* *Gainesville, Fl 32607* *Office/Fax (352) 244-1610* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4* ** ** *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:02 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: RIM Outages NYC? ** ** What will this do to RIM? Will Admin move to mobile IRON and ios or android or windows mobile? Is mobile iron just as good as BES? On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: All over... *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…* ** ** On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:01 AM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.com wrote: Rim Outages NYC? -- Justin IT-TECH ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Justin IT-TECH ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Justin IT-TECH ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Staff training
When I was working at a non-profit when someone was sent to training they were required to come back and cross-train their co-workers. You might consider something like sending each of them to a different class and then having them cross-train one another. Just a way to stretch your training budget. Also, since I work at New Horizons in Dallas, have you talked to your account executive at NH? Specifically ask them about OLL training (Online Live), it is instructor led training that is in a virtual classroom, interactive with the instructor, setup like traditional ILT classes but can be done from anywhere. We highly recommend dual monitors for OLL, but otherwise it can be done from their home or in your office if you have a suitable place. -Original Message- From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Staff training This may be a little OT, but I was just pricing out some training for 3 staff here with the idea of sending them to some classroom training for Windows 7 and Server 2008 administration. If I target the courses related to MCITP Enterprise Desktop Administrator on Windows 7 certification and the MCITP Server Administrator on Windows Server 2008 certification, (and this is from ONLC because they have a local office, but New Horizons seems to be about the same) the appropriate courses include three five day courses and one three day course. The total cost at their published prices would be almost $27,000 for three staff. I don't think I can get that through our budget process. For those who provide training for staff development, is this kind of classroom training the way to go? Are there other alternatives for classroom training, or do you use other training resources such as video training from places like Trainsignal? I'm looking for a bit of a reality check, as well as suggestions. We haven't provided this kind of staff training up to now, so I have no experience in this area. For myself I have relied on Google Training and some good books, but I was looking for something more formal/structured. Appreciate any comments and advice. Ralph ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This information may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, photocopying or distribution of these contents is unauthorized and prohibited. If you have received this in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood?
Will it run under FreeBSD? -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood? On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov wrote: VLC. I changed to that and now it's the only media player I use on any of my systems. Dunno if it works in Linux, but it's on all my Windows boxes. It works well on Linux. Indeed, it started in the *nix world. :) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: RIM Outages NYC?
live press conf just started http://www.rim.com/newsroom/service-update.shtml From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: RIM Outages NYC? What did the one #Blackberry user say to the other?..nothing, Good point On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:12 PM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Short term they will have a lot of explaining to do but hopefully it press them to rethink their strategy. Use BP and their oil rig explosion as an example. While many of us are aggravated with the issue I doubt many business that are heavily invested will make any changes - Android is not secure enough for a lot of RIMs customers and I doubt that this will push much IPhone in those areas. From a security standpoint the BES is still the king of the mountain, for how long remains to be seen. John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office/Fax (352) 244-1610tel:%28352%29%20244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944tel:%28352%29%20215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.commailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: RIM Outages NYC? What will this do to RIM? Will Admin move to mobile IRON and ios or android or windows mobile? Is mobile iron just as good as BES? On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com wrote: All over... ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:01 AM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.commailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com wrote: Rim Outages NYC? -- Justin IT-TECH ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Justin IT-TECH ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Justin IT-TECH ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here:
Re: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood?
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Thomas Mullins tsmull...@wise.k12.va.us wrote: Will [VLC] run under FreeBSD? I haven't tried it, but their website says it's in ports. http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-freebsd.html -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: RIM Outages NYC?
Thanks for the link. Nothing said was a surprise. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:10 PM, N Parr npar...@mortonind.com wrote: ** live press conf just started http://www.rim.com/newsroom/service-update.shtml -- *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:16 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: RIM Outages NYC? What did the one #Blackberry user say to the other?..nothing, Good point On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:12 PM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Short term they will have a lot of explaining to do but hopefully it press them to rethink their strategy. Use BP and their oil rig explosion as an example. While many of us are aggravated with the issue I doubt many business that are heavily invested will make any changes – Android is not secure enough for a lot of RIMs customers and I doubt that this will push much IPhonein those areas. From a security standpoint the BES is still the king of the mountain, for how long remains to be seen. *John W. Cook* *System Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *5950 NW 1st Place* *Gainesville, Fl 32607* *Office/Fax (352) 244-1610* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4* *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:02 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: RIM Outages NYC? What will this do to RIM? Will Admin move to mobile IRON and ios or android or windows mobile? Is mobile iron just as good as BES? On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: All over... *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…* ** ** On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:01 AM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.com wrote: Rim Outages NYC? -- Justin IT-TECH ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Justin IT-TECH ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Justin IT-TECH ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
Re: RIM Outages NYC?
Nor helpful nor informative On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Cameron cameron.orl...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the link. Nothing said was a surprise. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:10 PM, N Parr npar...@mortonind.com wrote: ** live press conf just started http://www.rim.com/newsroom/service-update.shtml -- *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:16 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: RIM Outages NYC? What did the one #Blackberry user say to the other?..nothing, Good point On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:12 PM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Short term they will have a lot of explaining to do but hopefully it press them to rethink their strategy. Use BP and their oil rig explosion as an example. While many of us are aggravated with the issue I doubt many business that are heavily invested will make any changes – Android is not secure enough for a lot of RIMs customers and I doubt that this will push much IPhonein those areas. From a security standpoint the BES is still the king of the mountain, for how long remains to be seen. *John W. Cook* *System Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *5950 NW 1st Place* *Gainesville, Fl 32607* *Office/Fax (352) 244-1610* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4* *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:02 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: RIM Outages NYC? What will this do to RIM? Will Admin move to mobile IRON and ios or android or windows mobile? Is mobile iron just as good as BES? On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: All over... *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…* ** ** On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:01 AM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.com wrote: Rim Outages NYC? -- Justin IT-TECH ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Justin IT-TECH ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Justin IT-TECH ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful
RE: RIM Outages NYC?
+10.. yep big time outages... Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RIM Outages NYC? All over North America. From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RIM Outages NYC? Rim Outages NYC? -- Justin IT-TECH ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.jpg
RE: Staff training
I'll check into that - thanks for the suggestion. -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:sabercrom...@nhdallas.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Staff training When I was working at a non-profit when someone was sent to training they were required to come back and cross-train their co-workers. You might consider something like sending each of them to a different class and then having them cross-train one another. Just a way to stretch your training budget. Also, since I work at New Horizons in Dallas, have you talked to your account executive at NH? Specifically ask them about OLL training (Online Live), it is instructor led training that is in a virtual classroom, interactive with the instructor, setup like traditional ILT classes but can be done from anywhere. We highly recommend dual monitors for OLL, but otherwise it can be done from their home or in your office if you have a suitable place. -Original Message- From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Staff training This may be a little OT, but I was just pricing out some training for 3 staff here with the idea of sending them to some classroom training for Windows 7 and Server 2008 administration. If I target the courses related to MCITP Enterprise Desktop Administrator on Windows 7 certification and the MCITP Server Administrator on Windows Server 2008 certification, (and this is from ONLC because they have a local office, but New Horizons seems to be about the same) the appropriate courses include three five day courses and one three day course. The total cost at their published prices would be almost $27,000 for three staff. I don't think I can get that through our budget process. For those who provide training for staff development, is this kind of classroom training the way to go? Are there other alternatives for classroom training, or do you use other training resources such as video training from places like Trainsignal? I'm looking for a bit of a reality check, as well as suggestions. We haven't provided this kind of staff training up to now, so I have no experience in this area. For myself I have relied on Google Training and some good books, but I was looking for something more formal/structured. Appreciate any comments and advice. Ralph ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This information may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, photocopying or distribution of these contents is unauthorized and prohibited. If you have received this in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Staff training
I agree with Dave on this one, I think that 27K for 3 people is a little steep. If you could provide the resources on-site and have someone come train you at your site, possibly you get the training for less and get a lot more out of it, because you can apply it directly to how your network works and what your folks need. EZ Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Staff training Others (like me) learn best by setting up a lab and trashing and rebuilding and testing and breaking and fixing the product several dozen times. Sounds like our production environment! -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 9:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Staff training The value of classroom training is completely dependent on the instructor. An instructor who knows what the heck s/he is talking about and has real experience in the product is invaluable. An instructor who reviewed the MOC and ran through it the weekend before the class started and has little-to-no real experience is worthless. As an instructor myself, I've sat through both kinds of training classes. I would say that the number you quote is just a little on the high side, but it's in line with a quality training class. Some people learn better in a classroom environment. Others learn better with books. Others (like me) learn best by setting up a lab and trashing and rebuilding and testing and breaking and fixing the product several dozen times. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Staff training This may be a little OT, but I was just pricing out some training for 3 staff here with the idea of sending them to some classroom training for Windows 7 and Server 2008 administration. If I target the courses related to MCITP Enterprise Desktop Administrator on Windows 7 certification and the MCITP Server Administrator on Windows Server 2008 certification, (and this is from ONLC because they have a local office, but New Horizons seems to be about the same) the appropriate courses include three five day courses and one three day course. The total cost at their published prices would be almost $27,000 for three staff. I don't think I can get that through our budget process. For those who provide training for staff development, is this kind of classroom training the way to go? Are there other alternatives for classroom training, or do you use other training resources such as video training from places like Trainsignal? I'm looking for a bit of a reality check, as well as suggestions. We haven't provided this kind of staff training up to now, so I have no experience in this area. For myself I have relied on Google Training and some good books, but I was looking for something more formal/structured. Appreciate any comments and advice. Ralph ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: RIM Outages NYC?
Glad I don't own any RIM stock. From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:klu...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: RIM Outages NYC? Nor helpful nor informative On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Cameron cameron.orl...@gmail.commailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the link. Nothing said was a surprise. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:10 PM, N Parr npar...@mortonind.commailto:npar...@mortonind.com wrote: live press conf just started http://www.rim.com/newsroom/service-update.shtml From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.commailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: RIM Outages NYC? What did the one #Blackberry user say to the other?..nothing, Good point On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:12 PM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Short term they will have a lot of explaining to do but hopefully it press them to rethink their strategy. Use BP and their oil rig explosion as an example. While many of us are aggravated with the issue I doubt many business that are heavily invested will make any changes - Android is not secure enough for a lot of RIMs customers and I doubt that this will push much IPhone in those areas. From a security standpoint the BES is still the king of the mountain, for how long remains to be seen. John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office/Fax (352) 244-1610tel:%28352%29%20244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944tel:%28352%29%20215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.commailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: RIM Outages NYC? What will this do to RIM? Will Admin move to mobile IRON and ios or android or windows mobile? Is mobile iron just as good as BES? On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com wrote: All over... ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:01 AM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.commailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com wrote: Rim Outages NYC? -- Justin IT-TECH ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Justin IT-TECH ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Justin IT-TECH ~
RE: Staff training
What kind of licensing agreement do you have with Microsoft? Sometimes you can get training credits with your agreements that will cover the cost of most of the classes (which I think were more around $3000-3500 range each). -Original Message- From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Staff training This may be a little OT, but I was just pricing out some training for 3 staff here with the idea of sending them to some classroom training for Windows 7 and Server 2008 administration. If I target the courses related to MCITP Enterprise Desktop Administrator on Windows 7 certification and the MCITP Server Administrator on Windows Server 2008 certification, (and this is from ONLC because they have a local office, but New Horizons seems to be about the same) the appropriate courses include three five day courses and one three day course. The total cost at their published prices would be almost $27,000 for three staff. I don't think I can get that through our budget process. For those who provide training for staff development, is this kind of classroom training the way to go? Are there other alternatives for classroom training, or do you use other training resources such as video training from places like Trainsignal? I'm looking for a bit of a reality check, as well as suggestions. We haven't provided this kind of staff training up to now, so I have no experience in this area. For myself I have relied on Google Training and some good books, but I was looking for something more formal/structured. Appreciate any comments and advice. Ralph ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Has anyone tried to add a local account on a server to a restrictive Group via GPO?
Trying to add a local user to a restrictive groups GPO ( its on the server for an application) I am wondering if that can even be done ( unless you modify the GPO from the server that has the local account in question) As for the local account ( silly Healthcare application, don't ask long story about inability on vendors part to set proper DCOM permissions) Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: RIM Outages NYC?
This is the third day in a row I've had no BB emails all afternoon. Seriously hacked off. The WinMo discussion we were having yesterday has just taken on some more urgency. Sheesh, fancy having to fire my laptop up to get emails! On 12 October 2011 20:26, N Parr npar...@mortonind.com wrote: ** Glad I don't own any RIM stock. -- *From:* Kevin Lundy [mailto:klu...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:24 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: RIM Outages NYC? Nor helpful nor informative On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Cameron cameron.orl...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the link. Nothing said was a surprise. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:10 PM, N Parr npar...@mortonind.com wrote: ** live press conf just started http://www.rim.com/newsroom/service-update.shtml -- *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:16 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: RIM Outages NYC? What did the one #Blackberry user say to the other?..nothing, Good point On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:12 PM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Short term they will have a lot of explaining to do but hopefully it press them to rethink their strategy. Use BP and their oil rig explosion as an example. While many of us are aggravated with the issue I doubt many business that are heavily invested will make any changes – Android is not secure enough for a lot of RIMs customers and I doubt that this will push much IPhone in those areas. From a security standpoint the BES is still the king of the mountain, for how long remains to be seen. *John W. Cook* *System Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *5950 NW 1st Place* *Gainesville, Fl 32607* *Office/Fax (352) 244-1610* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4* *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:02 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: RIM Outages NYC? What will this do to RIM? Will Admin move to mobile IRON and ios or android or windows mobile?*** * Is mobile iron just as good as BES? On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: All over... *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…* ** ** On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:01 AM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.com wrote: Rim Outages NYC? -- Justin IT-TECH ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Justin IT-TECH ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage
RE: Staff training
There's no need or mandate to have staff with certifications. My thought was that I would like to bring the skill level here up a notch or two, and working towards certification would provide a goal, give the staff something tangible as a result of their effort, and help them career-wise. I'd like to get them each to take at least one training with a live instructor if I can. I think there is benefit to that experience . As Sherry suggests, sending one person to each class and having them come back and train the others could work. I'll definitely set up a lab environment for them here (actually they can do it themselves) and use the video training to supplement or replace the classroom training, as well as using self guided tutorials, etc. I was just wondering what was common elsewhere for staff development. Anyone have experience with Trainsignal or other similar products? From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Staff training I agree with most of what Michael already outlined. I'd also like to point out that there are employee's who see that type of formal training as a vacation from work. and really get nothing out of it. You should also evaluate and try to quantify what you or your company is trying to get out of this. For example, is the need to have a certain number of in house employees with MCITP certification? If that is the business driver, then at least you know what the requirements are. If not, then trying a combination of multiple forms of training might make more sense. You could license one of the video series, and have the employees work from home for a week to complete the course, for a fraction of that $27000 figure. You could also consider the Boot Camps, which virtually guarantee certification, but at a much higher cost. Chris Bodnar, MCSE, MCITP Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 From:Ralph Smith m...@gatewayindustries.org To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date:10/12/2011 12:17 PM Subject:Staff training This may be a little OT, but I was just pricing out some training for 3 staff here with the idea of sending them to some classroom training for Windows 7 and Server 2008 administration. If I target the courses related to MCITP Enterprise Desktop Administrator on Windows 7 certification and the MCITP Server Administrator on Windows Server 2008 certification, (and this is from ONLC because they have a local office, but New Horizons seems to be about the same) the appropriate courses include three five day courses and one three day course. The total cost at their published prices would be almost $27,000 for three staff. I don't think I can get that through our budget process. For those who provide training for staff development, is this kind of classroom training the way to go? Are there other alternatives for classroom training, or do you use other training resources such as video training from places like Trainsignal? I'm looking for a bit of a reality check, as well as suggestions. We haven't provided this kind of staff training up to now, so I have no experience in this area. For myself I have relied on Google Training and some good books, but I was looking for something more formal/structured. Appreciate any comments and advice. Ralph ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Staff training
Hmm, like somebody from a local college? Where would you find someone to do onsite training? I'll have to investigate. -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 3:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Staff training I agree with Dave on this one, I think that 27K for 3 people is a little steep. If you could provide the resources on-site and have someone come train you at your site, possibly you get the training for less and get a lot more out of it, because you can apply it directly to how your network works and what your folks need. EZ Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Staff training Others (like me) learn best by setting up a lab and trashing and rebuilding and testing and breaking and fixing the product several dozen times. Sounds like our production environment! -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 9:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Staff training The value of classroom training is completely dependent on the instructor. An instructor who knows what the heck s/he is talking about and has real experience in the product is invaluable. An instructor who reviewed the MOC and ran through it the weekend before the class started and has little-to-no real experience is worthless. As an instructor myself, I've sat through both kinds of training classes. I would say that the number you quote is just a little on the high side, but it's in line with a quality training class. Some people learn better in a classroom environment. Others learn better with books. Others (like me) learn best by setting up a lab and trashing and rebuilding and testing and breaking and fixing the product several dozen times. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Staff training This may be a little OT, but I was just pricing out some training for 3 staff here with the idea of sending them to some classroom training for Windows 7 and Server 2008 administration. If I target the courses related to MCITP Enterprise Desktop Administrator on Windows 7 certification and the MCITP Server Administrator on Windows Server 2008 certification, (and this is from ONLC because they have a local office, but New Horizons seems to be about the same) the appropriate courses include three five day courses and one three day course. The total cost at their published prices would be almost $27,000 for three staff. I don't think I can get that through our budget process. For those who provide training for staff development, is this kind of classroom training the way to go? Are there other alternatives for classroom training, or do you use other training resources such as video training from places like Trainsignal? I'm looking for a bit of a reality check, as well as suggestions. We haven't provided this kind of staff training up to now, so I have no experience in this area. For myself I have relied on Google Training and some good books, but I was looking for something more formal/structured. Appreciate any comments and advice. Ralph ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/
Re: Staff training
Send one each to each of the 5 day courses. Then that person must train the other two on his/her class. ( train the trainer ) Prove they learned the required material in the class by teaching it to others. Possibly the other two get self study materials before the first trains them. maybe all three to the three day class. Rework the numbers with this scenario and see if more palatable On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Ralph Smith m...@gatewayindustries.orgwrote: This may be a little OT, but I was just pricing out some training for 3 staff here with the idea of sending them to some classroom training for Windows 7 and Server 2008 administration. If I target the courses related to MCITP Enterprise Desktop Administrator on Windows 7 certification and the MCITP Server Administrator on Windows Server 2008 certification, (and this is from ONLC because they have a local office, but New Horizons seems to be about the same) the appropriate courses include three five day courses and one three day course. The total cost at their published prices would be almost $27,000 for three staff. I don't think I can get that through our budget process. For those who provide training for staff development, is this kind of classroom training the way to go? Are there other alternatives for classroom training, or do you use other training resources such as video training from places like Trainsignal? I'm looking for a bit of a reality check, as well as suggestions. We haven't provided this kind of staff training up to now, so I have no experience in this area. For myself I have relied on Google Training and some good books, but I was looking for something more formal/structured. Appreciate any comments and advice. Ralph ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Staff training
What I was alluding too, and sometimes the training centers might offer you a better deal if you can negotiate with them to handle the training onsite at your site. Yep seen the same price for the same training so if you can get it at 1/3 the price why wouldn't you... Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 3:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Staff training What kind of licensing agreement do you have with Microsoft? Sometimes you can get training credits with your agreements that will cover the cost of most of the classes (which I think were more around $3000-3500 range each). -Original Message- From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Staff training This may be a little OT, but I was just pricing out some training for 3 staff here with the idea of sending them to some classroom training for Windows 7 and Server 2008 administration. If I target the courses related to MCITP Enterprise Desktop Administrator on Windows 7 certification and the MCITP Server Administrator on Windows Server 2008 certification, (and this is from ONLC because they have a local office, but New Horizons seems to be about the same) the appropriate courses include three five day courses and one three day course. The total cost at their published prices would be almost $27,000 for three staff. I don't think I can get that through our budget process. For those who provide training for staff development, is this kind of classroom training the way to go? Are there other alternatives for classroom training, or do you use other training resources such as video training from places like Trainsignal? I'm looking for a bit of a reality check, as well as suggestions. We haven't provided this kind of staff training up to now, so I have no experience in this area. For myself I have relied on Google Training and some good books, but I was looking for something more formal/structured. Appreciate any comments and advice. Ralph ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Staff training
Good idea. Most of our software comes either through Techsoup, which if you are unfamiliar with it is a kind of middleman for Microsoft software donations, or occasionally purchasing through MS Open Charity Licensing. Looking on the MS Volume License Service Center I don't have any vouchers, but I do have some access to MS e-learning through our Technet subscription. -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 3:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Staff training What kind of licensing agreement do you have with Microsoft? Sometimes you can get training credits with your agreements that will cover the cost of most of the classes (which I think were more around $3000-3500 range each). -Original Message- From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Staff training This may be a little OT, but I was just pricing out some training for 3 staff here with the idea of sending them to some classroom training for Windows 7 and Server 2008 administration. If I target the courses related to MCITP Enterprise Desktop Administrator on Windows 7 certification and the MCITP Server Administrator on Windows Server 2008 certification, (and this is from ONLC because they have a local office, but New Horizons seems to be about the same) the appropriate courses include three five day courses and one three day course. The total cost at their published prices would be almost $27,000 for three staff. I don't think I can get that through our budget process. For those who provide training for staff development, is this kind of classroom training the way to go? Are there other alternatives for classroom training, or do you use other training resources such as video training from places like Trainsignal? I'm looking for a bit of a reality check, as well as suggestions. We haven't provided this kind of staff training up to now, so I have no experience in this area. For myself I have relied on Google Training and some good books, but I was looking for something more formal/structured. Appreciate any comments and advice. Ralph ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Staff training
Those aren't bad. I took a few of those before taking a classroom course. They helped me get even more out of the class. -Original Message- From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 3:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Staff training Good idea. Most of our software comes either through Techsoup, which if you are unfamiliar with it is a kind of middleman for Microsoft software donations, or occasionally purchasing through MS Open Charity Licensing. Looking on the MS Volume License Service Center I don't have any vouchers, but I do have some access to MS e-learning through our Technet subscription. -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 3:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Staff training What kind of licensing agreement do you have with Microsoft? Sometimes you can get training credits with your agreements that will cover the cost of most of the classes (which I think were more around $3000-3500 range each). -Original Message- From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Staff training This may be a little OT, but I was just pricing out some training for 3 staff here with the idea of sending them to some classroom training for Windows 7 and Server 2008 administration. If I target the courses related to MCITP Enterprise Desktop Administrator on Windows 7 certification and the MCITP Server Administrator on Windows Server 2008 certification, (and this is from ONLC because they have a local office, but New Horizons seems to be about the same) the appropriate courses include three five day courses and one three day course. The total cost at their published prices would be almost $27,000 for three staff. I don't think I can get that through our budget process. For those who provide training for staff development, is this kind of classroom training the way to go? Are there other alternatives for classroom training, or do you use other training resources such as video training from places like Trainsignal? I'm looking for a bit of a reality check, as well as suggestions. We haven't provided this kind of staff training up to now, so I have no experience in this area. For myself I have relied on Google Training and some good books, but I was looking for something more formal/structured. Appreciate any comments and advice. Ralph ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Staff training
Another option is to check the local community colleges. Some of them have IT Tracks and much better pricing. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Ralph Smith m...@gatewayindustries.orgmailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org wrote: This may be a little OT, but I was just pricing out some training for 3 staff here with the idea of sending them to some classroom training for Windows 7 and Server 2008 administration. If I target the courses related to MCITP Enterprise Desktop Administrator on Windows 7 certification and the MCITP Server Administrator on Windows Server 2008 certification, (and this is from ONLC because they have a local office, but New Horizons seems to be about the same) the appropriate courses include three five day courses and one three day course. The total cost at their published prices would be almost $27,000 for three staff. I don't think I can get that through our budget process. For those who provide training for staff development, is this kind of classroom training the way to go? Are there other alternatives for classroom training, or do you use other training resources such as video training from places like Trainsignal? I'm looking for a bit of a reality check, as well as suggestions. We haven't provided this kind of staff training up to now, so I have no experience in this area. For myself I have relied on Google Training and some good books, but I was looking for something more formal/structured. Appreciate any comments and advice. Ralph ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or Vulnerabilities?
I agree but there is one caveat, if I have physical access to the phone, you can just take the battery out of it ( Bingo your remote wipe is gone), then hook up the phone and boot the os, find out where the keys are stored on the device ( yes the encryption keys are stored on the device), and decrypt it, and your info is my info now, and you know all those juicy corporate emails with the crown jewels on some merger, sale etc etc are on those devices) Aaron Turner from the IANS Faculity has done pretty extensive research on this subject and I have seen his presentations on the mobile device security matters many times, and its pretty scary how dependent we are on a very insecure technology http://blog.iansresearch.net/2011/05/katherine-teitler-byod-the-horse-is-out-of-the-barn.html But I like Marc tangent, why even want physical device if I can plant malware on your smart phone and just siphon off the information I want anyways, makes it easier to take advantage to the information obtained. (Aka some of the items discussed above) Food for thought, Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Marc Maiffret [mailto:mmaiff...@eeye.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or Vulnerabilities? Encryption of corporate data as a protection mechanism on mobile devices has the same flaws as desktop OS systems. I.E. I can exploit the phone, grab root, and grab your data once it is unencrypted/accessible/unlocked as your viewing/browsing it etc... Obviously such attacks are not really there yet on the mobile platform but they exist on the desktop/server OS's and it all works the same really from a threat perspective. Encryption in this context, and in desktop/server, only helps with data at rest or in transit. Otherwise it does little to nothing to keep the bad guys from getting your data. I remember one of the first 10 vulnerabilities I discovered was in PGP, just to make a more visual point about how much encryption does not help compared to the perception of it. This obviously does not mean you should not use it, just should not think it is really going to protect your data as it relates to attacks coming across the wire etc... -Marc Signed, Marc Maiffret Founder/CTO eEye Digital Security WEB: http://www.eEye.com BLOG: http://blog.eeye.com TWITTER: http://twitter.com/marcmaiffret -Original Message- From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 8:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or Vulnerabilities? Or just get Good Messaging for Enterprise and not worry too much about the platform and various security threats. (At least with the Corporate side info. Personal data can still be compromised). It runs in an Encrypted Sandbox on most all platforms. http://www.good.com/solutions/mobile-security.php From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 9:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or Vulnerabilities? Windows Phone is still wait and see. -- Sent from Kaiten Mail for Android. Please excuse my brevity. John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: There's a third viable platform: Windows Phone 7. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or Vulnerabilities? So, does this mean your smartphone is an iphone? Bill Marc Maiffret wrote: I thought some of the NTSYSADMIN'ers would enjoy this post as I saw the HTC vuln. was mentioned the other day here. http://blog.eeye.com/vulnerability-management/android_security If nothing else fun hack to mess with your HTC/Samsung Android using co-workers. :-) -Marc Signed, Marc Maiffret Founder/CTO eEye Digital Security WEB: http://www.eEye.com BLOG: http://blog.eeye.com TWITTER: http://twitter.com/marcmaiffret ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/%3e ; ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/%3e ; ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here:
Re: Has anyone tried to add a local account on a server to a restrictive Group via GPO?
Have you seen this? http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverGP/thread/64d9a801-5281-487c-8d14-1b092c0dffcf/ It looks like you should be able to do this through GPO Restricted Groups, or using Preferences. Chris Bodnar, MCSE, MCITP Technical Support III Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 From: Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: 10/12/2011 03:38 PM Subject:Has anyone tried to add a local account on a server to a restrictive Group via GPO? Trying to add a local user to a restrictive groups GPO ( its on the server for an application) I am wondering if that can even be done ( unless you modify the GPO from the server that has the local account in question) As for the local account ( silly Healthcare application, don't ask long story about inability on vendors part to set proper DCOM permissions) Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: RIM Outages NYC?
The QA was more helpful to understand that their separate regions are actually connected. I don't believe the root cause is accurate since they claim it's a backlog which is causing the North America issue. -Ben From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:klu...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 3:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: RIM Outages NYC? Nor helpful nor informative On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Cameron cameron.orl...@gmail.commailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the link. Nothing said was a surprise. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:10 PM, N Parr npar...@mortonind.commailto:npar...@mortonind.com wrote: live press conf just started http://www.rim.com/newsroom/service-update.shtml From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.commailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: RIM Outages NYC? What did the one #Blackberry user say to the other?..nothing, Good point On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:12 PM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Short term they will have a lot of explaining to do but hopefully it press them to rethink their strategy. Use BP and their oil rig explosion as an example. While many of us are aggravated with the issue I doubt many business that are heavily invested will make any changes - Android is not secure enough for a lot of RIMs customers and I doubt that this will push much IPhone in those areas. From a security standpoint the BES is still the king of the mountain, for how long remains to be seen. John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office/Fax (352) 244-1610tel:%28352%29%20244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944tel:%28352%29%20215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.commailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: RIM Outages NYC? What will this do to RIM? Will Admin move to mobile IRON and ios or android or windows mobile? Is mobile iron just as good as BES? On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com wrote: All over... ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:01 AM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.commailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com wrote: Rim Outages NYC? -- Justin IT-TECH ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Justin IT-TECH ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to
RE: Has anyone tried to add a local account on a server to a restrictive Group via GPO?
Yes, I have done so. If you type the name of the local account exactly as it is on the server, it should work (don't choose via dialog). -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 3:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Has anyone tried to add a local account on a server to a restrictive Group via GPO? Trying to add a local user to a restrictive groups GPO ( its on the server for an application) I am wondering if that can even be done ( unless you modify the GPO from the server that has the local account in question) As for the local account ( silly Healthcare application, don't ask long story about inability on vendors part to set proper DCOM permissions) Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Extremely OT
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RE: Staff training
I use Global Knowledge and they are great. If you do a boot camp, they even give you free vouchers to take the tests. Sometimes they have a buy 2 get 1 free deal. I believe they also have deals that allow managers to purchase a few vouchers and have the staff take the classes whenever they like. They also do onsite training as well. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Staff training Another option is to check the local community colleges. Some of them have IT Tracks and much better pricing. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Ralph Smith m...@gatewayindustries.org wrote: This may be a little OT, but I was just pricing out some training for 3 staff here with the idea of sending them to some classroom training for Windows 7 and Server 2008 administration. If I target the courses related to MCITP Enterprise Desktop Administrator on Windows 7 certification and the MCITP Server Administrator on Windows Server 2008 certification, (and this is from ONLC because they have a local office, but New Horizons seems to be about the same) the appropriate courses include three five day courses and one three day course. The total cost at their published prices would be almost $27,000 for three staff. I don't think I can get that through our budget process. For those who provide training for staff development, is this kind of classroom training the way to go? Are there other alternatives for classroom training, or do you use other training resources such as video training from places like Trainsignal? I'm looking for a bit of a reality check, as well as suggestions. We haven't provided this kind of staff training up to now, so I have no experience in this area. For myself I have relied on Google Training and some good books, but I was looking for something more formal/structured. Appreciate any comments and advice. Ralph ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ http://www.sunbeltsoftwarecom/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood?
VLC is great, but when you use some of the more leading-edge video formats, you may notice issues. Issues that you may be less likely to see in [for instance] Media Player Classic that comes bundles with the CCCP filter/codec pack. Im not promoting one over the other. I love VLC. But I can assure you its not perfect. I find myself going back and forth depending on the media container type. In my experience, MKVs can have a rendering/syncing issues - or are more likely to in VLC than in MPC. -- Espi On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 7:15 AM, Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov wrote: VLC. I changed to that and now it's the only media player I use on any of my systems. Dunno if it works in Linux, but it's on all my Windows boxes. John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com 10/8/2011 12:48 PM On Sat October 8 2011, you wrote: Hi John, In my case (just a home user) it was on my system from installing Winamp. Neil |¬D Yeah. As soon as I saw that on the list, I removed WinAmp. I've got another app that I'm going to try out in it's place, called SnackAmp. Not sure I like it much. I might have to stick to just using Windows Media Player under Windows and XMMS under Linux. :( -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Has anyone tried to add a local account on a server to a restrictive Group via GPO?
confirmed -Original Message- From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 3:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Has anyone tried to add a local account on a server to a restrictive Group via GPO? Yes, I have done so. If you type the name of the local account exactly as it is on the server, it should work (don't choose via dialog). -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 3:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Has anyone tried to add a local account on a server to a restrictive Group via GPO? Trying to add a local user to a restrictive groups GPO ( its on the server for an application) I am wondering if that can even be done ( unless you modify the GPO from the server that has the local account in question) As for the local account ( silly Healthcare application, don't ask long story about inability on vendors part to set proper DCOM permissions) Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood?
Yup. It's what I use on my FreeBSD 7 and 8 desktops running XFCE4. Kurt On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:38, Thomas Mullins tsmull...@wise.k12.va.us wrote: Will it run under FreeBSD? -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OpenCandy -- spyware/adware or misunderstood? On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov wrote: VLC. I changed to that and now it's the only media player I use on any of my systems. Dunno if it works in Linux, but it's on all my Windows boxes. It works well on Linux. Indeed, it started in the *nix world. :) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Staff training
Thanks, i'll check those two resources as well. I appreciate all the comments. Another option is to check the local community colleges. Some of them have IT Tracks and much better pricing. I use Global Knowledge and they are great. If you do a boot camp, they even give you free vouchers to take the tests. Sometimes they have a buy 2 get 1 free deal. I believe they also have deals that allow managers to purchase a few vouchers and have the staff take the classes whenever they like. They also do onsite training as well. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Staff training Another option is to check the local community colleges. Some of them have IT Tracks and much better pricing. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Ralph Smith m...@gatewayindustries.org wrote: This may be a little OT, but I was just pricing out some training for 3 staff here with the idea of sending them to some classroom training for Windows 7 and Server 2008 administration. If I target the courses related to MCITP Enterprise Desktop Administrator on Windows 7 certification and the MCITP Server Administrator on Windows Server 2008 certification, (and this is from ONLC because they have a local office, but New Horizons seems to be about the same) the appropriate courses include three five day courses and one three day course. The total cost at their published prices would be almost $27,000 for three staff. I don't think I can get that through our budget process. For those who provide training for staff development, is this kind of classroom training the way to go? Are there other alternatives for classroom training, or do you use other training resources such as video training from places like Trainsignal? I'm looking for a bit of a reality check, as well as suggestions. We haven't provided this kind of staff training up to now, so I have no experience in this area. For myself I have relied on Google Training and some good books, but I was looking for something more formal/structured. Appreciate any comments and advice. Ralph ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ http://www.sunbeltsoftwarecom/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
OT: well maybe iOS 5 upgrades having issues
Thanks to Andrew Baker for finding this. http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9220782/iOS_5_upgrade_error_reports_flood_Apple_s_support_forum For those of you working with Apples of any type you might want to hold off trying to do the iOS update for a couple of days. Jon ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OT: well maybe iOS 5 upgrades having issues
I did mine tonite and it took a while, but I’m on the air! Murray From: Jon Harris Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 8:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: well maybe iOS 5 upgrades having issues Thanks to Andrew Baker for finding this. http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9220782/iOS_5_upgrade_error_reports_flood_Apple_s_support_forum For those of you working with Apples of any type you might want to hold off trying to do the iOS update for a couple of days. Jon ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: What would YOU do?
Fess up on the mistake to the client AND the vendor. Things happen. Talk to Dell and see if there are some options. Hopefully, you haven't opened the card yet. * * *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 1:27 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: Background: A %nightjob% client (17 employees) of mine has a Dell PowerEdge 840 with 4 SATA drives, two volumes of RAID1 (2x250GB for C: and D: , 2x500GB for E:) OS is SBS 2003 and they use SQL in addition to Exchange (when I spec’d this in 2007, SQL wasn’t involved). I have split up Exchange / SQL Log/DB files as best I can. ** ** This has been working OK but they app that uses SQL is kind of a pig and it and Exchange create a lot of disk contention. I got the bright idea to have them buy $600 of 15K RPM SAS drives and an external enclosure and is bundled with a SAS RAID5 card (PCIe 4x – this is important for later…). ** ** I figured I’d create a RAID5 volume and point SQL over to this new drive array and performance should be much improved, my theory being is the system will be as fast or faster pre-SQL (my thinking was I might be able to move some other things off the SATA drives and onto the faster controller/disks). ** ** The mistake: Parts are onsite, and tonight I go to install the RAID card and….hey, this system has ONE PCIe 8x slot and ONCE PCIe 1x slot, plus some standard PCI slots. Populating the PCIe 8x slot is a SAS 5/iR controller hooked to the four SATA drives. In other words, the shiny new toy I had them purchase won’t work because I had assumed the existing RAID controller was built-in. It hadn’t occurred to me as a remote possibility that there would be insufficient slots, I hadn’t added a thing to this server since they’d bought it. ** ** What would you guys do? Send the hardware back and plead mea culpa? Is there any way to put the existing SATA array on a different card (say, a PCIe 1x SATA RAID card) without having to rebuild the volumes? I’ve looked for SAS RAID5 PCIe 1x (yes, it would be slower than 4x but still better than the stiff internal) but no luck. ** ** Maybe I’m over thinking this after a 17hr day (between %dayjob% and %nightjob%), but I welcome your guys’ input. ** ** *David Lum* * *Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 //* *Mobile 503.267.9764 ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
