Re: [old-chevy-truck] RE: 230 inline 6
I like to remind people that the 235 was in the first Corvettes! Albeit with multiple carbs and/or mechanical fuel injection (I forget). I have a beautiful rebuilt 235 in my 59 3200 and it looks, sounds and performs solid as a rock. I had a chance to rebuild a 261, but decided to stay with the original 235 engine. In the end I had to swap blocks anyway, but I am happy with the result. Let's hear it for the Thriftmaster. Jonas Thaler post production MOB PHONE +1 575 791 2605 SECURE FAX +1 575 541 3006 jonastha...@jonasthaler.com On Oct 14, 2013, at 10:17 AM, Deve Krehbiel dkrehb...@cox.net wrote: There is more to it than that Bill. You would have to fashion special brackets to mount the mounts to. It's not impossible and your local welding shop could probably help, but it is much preferable to use the 235 or 261 in this truck. Of course we see lots of V8s in these trucks so anything is possible. Remember, there will be linkage issues, connection issues, radiator clearance issues, small stuff to consider as well. From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [mailto:old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of corval...@peoplepc.com Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 9:27 AM To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [old-chevy-truck] RE: 230 inline 6 Could you drill holes and bolt the motor mounts to the frame? Bill in Oregon From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [mailto:old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rsi...@cox.net Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 7:04 AM To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Subject: [old-chevy-truck] RE: 230 inline 6 I thought about it too for my 54. My understanding is that you will need to weld in new engine mounts on your frame. That was more than I wanted to tackle. I waited until I found a 235 that is just a bolt in. Others will likely have better information. If you don't mind putting in the engine mounts it should be a good engine otherwise. ---In old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com, old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com wrote: Anyone installed a 230 inline 6 in a 1951 3100? I went and looked at one yesterday and wasn't sure how difficult it would be to install in my truck. Thanks, Robert
Re: [old-chevy-truck] RE : Fuel Needs
I didn't go to the auction because I fear crowds, but I really enjoyed your story vicariously. And what fun to do the trip in your 1950. Thanks for sharing. Jonas Thaler On Oct 9, 2013, at 7:42 PM, Arizona Pride! tikua...@yahoo.com wrote: Randy Rundle of Fifth Avenue Antique Auto Parts, told me to put in a little less than a pint of diesel fuel, every time I filled up my 1950 Chevy; during my trip cross country, after the Lambrecht Auction. Before I did that, I got vapor locked, in NM; after I started adding the diesel; no more vapor lock. The diesel does something to absorb some of the ethanol; exactly what, I don't know. The auction was a hoot and a combination of a gypsy carnival/soy bean field, mud run, good ol boy soiree. People were bidding like it was monopoly money and other people were scratching their heads trying to figure out the psych up to the auction that created the frenzy. The locals all turned out to witness the circus and were all just wonderful to meet. People were selling everything from fudge to beef jerky in their drive way stands. The Lambrecht Chevy Building was a Mecca to which everyone was drawn to take photos, right in the center of Pierce. On auction day, I parked my Aztec Tan 1950 More Door Chevy, right smack dab, in front of the building and it became a photo prop for the day. That was my own contribution to the weekends excitement. When I came back to retrieve the Chevy, an older gent, who had spent the day sitting in the shade and watching all of the people, said he figures over 500 people took pictures of my car during the day. Well, the next day, when anyone saw me driving it; they would say Isn't that the car that was parked in front of Lambrecht's yesterday? And, that would start a whole new conversation. Saturday AM, before going to the auction, I watched a patriotic parade in old downtown Norfolk. Being as there are many small towns in that area; every Jr and High School band within 50 miles was in the parade. That was the most bands that I have ever seen in 70 years of parade watching. Saturday night, I went to the Extra Special Cruise In at the Norfolk Sonic Drive In. It was the biggest turn out they had ever had; as there were vintage/collector cars from all over the country.Once again, many people asked if my car was in front of Lambrecht's on Saturday. I did have Carby problems, in addition to vapor locking, one time. Turns out the float was set way too high and the bowl over filled and started leaking. Not only that, but the garage that supposedly got my cat road worthy, also forgot to connect the accelerator pump external linkage and so I used my choke a lot. That is until a JC auto shop, instructor, in La Junta, CO, inspected the carboy and adjust the float and connected the accelerator pump. My carboy still leaks and will get it properly fixed now that I am home. Only had rain one day, fierce NE wind blew off my magnetic reflective sign that read ARIZONA OR RUST, missed the flooded parts of the South Platte and got out of Nebraska, two days before the blizzard hit. I fell in love with the Chevy as it cruised along at 65 MPH with 19 MPG; after the carboy was temporarily fixed. Highlights: seeing that Cameo pickup sell for $140,000, seeing a guy spend $2,000 on a rusted out 1950 Deluxe Chevy to get $4,000 worth of SS trim, bumpers with guards and wings and front and back fender gravel shields, a radio and Deluxe Hood Ornament; auctioneers working of of a flat bed trailer being pulled up and down the rows of cars, dozens of seniors with walkers traipsing through the mud, just to experience this once in a life time event. Lowlight: all of the neglect and rust in all of those wonderful Cheys. Last night on the road; finally got to sleep in a teepee at the Holbrook Wigwam; which was a boyhood dream. You see, my Dad thought they were too garish, back in the 50's and wouldn't stay in those type of Route 66 artsy/touristy places. Even with the supposedly repaired items coming back to get me; I had a great time. On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 7:00 PM, Robert Westmoreland rl_westmorel...@yahoo.com wrote: We have several stations in SC that have ethanol free premium. Most all Hickory Point stations have it. Also have at least one station that carries regular premium ethanol free. On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 2:42 PM, Mark Noakes m...@noakes.com wrote: I've been buying 100% pump gas for a while in TN. It is definitely more expensive by quite a bit. It is also not widely available, and sometimes it is regular and sometimes premium only. Mark N Oct 9, 2013 07:30:52 AM, old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com wrote: I don’t think they sell straight gas at the pump anymore… anywhere. I buy bulk straight gas (300 gals at a time) and it actually costs more than your 10
Re: [old-chevy-truck] fuel pump question
Speaking of electric fuel pumps.. I seem to remember that an electric fuel pump can be advantageous at high altitudes. We live part time at 4800ft (NM) and often drive quite a bit higher from there. I haven't brought my 59 3200 (235) out yet from California but I am intending to do so soon. Anyone have any suggestions? Yeah, I'm that guy who's always trying to solve problems before they even happen! =-=-=jonas On Aug 20, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Arizona Pride! tikua...@yahoo.com wrote: I buy my electric fuel pumps from Firth Avenue Antique Auto Parts, in Kansas. They are gear driven and used by many participants in the Great Races. I just put one on my 1950 Chevy, 4 door, Styleline Deluxe, in order to prepare for a cross country road trip. They aren't cheap; but many have made it across the Ghobi Desert in Africa. From: Goulet, John A. gou...@wpi.edu To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 4:49 PM Subject: [old-chevy-truck] fuel pump question hi! Those of you who use an electric fuel pump - - what brand do you use and what kind of life do you get out of them? Thanks! john From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com] on behalf of Willy Morrison [willymorri...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 7:48 PM To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Truck for sale Making my annual pilgrimage and looking for a unmolested Chevy pick-up. I fly into San Antonio on Aug 28th with a friend. He is buying an 2011 GMC truck and I'm buying a car hauler and any antique truck I can find. My route passes by Dallas, Little Rock, Memphis, Louisville, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Buffalo all the way to Boston and back into Atlantic Canada. I can go off route for a nice truck. I had a 1950 but was too rough for my skill set. I've been a not so active member of Old Chevy Truck for almost 8 years. I know you guys love your trucks but if someone is looking for a good home for one they aren't using or have a buddy I'd greatly appreciate the lead. Thanks in advance for your consideration. Willy Morrison Cape Breton, Nova Scotia From: Standard Man jawr1...@sbcglobal.netmailto:jawr1861%40sbcglobal.net To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.commailto:old-chevy-truck%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 9:14:35 PM Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Truck for sale --- In old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.commailto:old-chevy-truck%40yahoogroups.com, ksfarmmer rsims2@... wrote: Not mine, but a neighbor has 1950 1/2 ton he really wants to get rid of. Looks complete, except somebody stole the starter, battery and coil. He is looking to sell so I am guessing that you could get it for $500-1000 or less. Body is decent didn't see much rust. Always shedded, now covered in dust. Tag is dated 1977 so it hasn't run in a bit. I'd snap it up in a heart beat if I didn't have a 54 and 56 in similar condition as well as a lot of work to do on my 49. Located near Topeka. Guy's name is Jim Smith 785-862-5523 if someone might be interested. I bought the truck from Jim. Thanks for the heads up. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Re : 216/235 261 Ignition Timing
Would you then move the timing light to the other five spark plugs to make sure they were all firing? Great tip. On Jul 6, 2013, at 11:39 AM, Bill Hanlon bill_han...@comcast.net wrote: Do you have a timing light? If so, hook it up and point it at the windshield. Turn on the key and hit the starter. If the light flashes the plugs (at least the one that you hooked the timing light to) are getting fire. From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [mailto:old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dazysnow Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 11:41 AM To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Re : 216/235 261 Ignition Timing The engine has to start before you can fine tune unfortunately. Ole Red has never started after a year. I need a way to sit at the wheel and know if the plugs are getting fire. I have no assistant and no one in this area will work on anything this old. I guess the economy must be better than I think. Ole Red has a 52 235 engine. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re : Magnetic Drain Plugs
With the addition of a Sonicare toothbrush rare earth magnet to suck iron filings out of your universal joint, your Advanced Design (or whatever) truck will be downright Sputnik! On Jun 30, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Nate vwna...@yahoo.com wrote: Sounds good to me ! . Where to get 'em ? . Just remember to finger feel the depth before putting in something too long . -Nate Chico wrote : Thanks for the info, Nate. Makes sense, worked well, and much more useful info than in the manual. As to magnetic drain plug...any thoughts on putting one of the newer rare earth magnets on the end of a normal or magnetic drain plug? They're so strong they'd never bounce off but their magnetic fields extend so much further than a normal magnet, so they would probably grab metal bits sooner and more readily...? On Jun 23, 2013, at 2:43 PM, corvallis@... wrote: Q: mount the magnetic plug high or low .and why? Bill in oregon _ From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [mailto:old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 2:16 PM To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Lube procedure after transmission u-bolt repair? The U-Joint should be liberally lubricated with gear oil as you assemble it , then remove the 1/2 NPT filler plug on the right side of the transmission and slowly pump in EP85W- gear oil until it burps back out then wait a while and add a bit more ~ the U-Joint cavity fill slowly by flowing the oil through the out put shaft's rear ball bearing so this takes time , DO NOT RUSH filling the tranny with oil . I hope you remembered to add a 1/2 NPT _magnetic_ oil drain plug ? . -Nate === Chico wrote : Hi - I'm getting ready to close the driveshaft-to-transmission connection on my '49 3100. A question: the repair manual talks about putting lube in through one of the plugs near the rear of the transmission after repair, but it doesn't give any details. How much? I assume it's the standard transmission stuff (90-weight, as I recall)? Won't that affect the level in the transmission case itself? As you can tell by my questions, I'm confused. So what's the lubrication procedure when re-attaching the closed driveshaft to the transmission? Thanks.. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] This has to be a dream!!
This news is going to spread to Scandinavia, Australia etc where there are a lot of Chevy collectors with money. Sigh. Wish I had 500K sitting around in my hobby account! You are so right about enjoying the journey. Auctions like this mostly benefit the auctioneers and their client, the seller. But you never know. And if you don't count on winning a good deal of a lifetime, you can have fun looking at all the incredible stuff. On Jun 27, 2013, at 4:11 PM, Karl Eastman drbog...@yahoo.com wrote: It looked like a random assortment of cars, and several were 4 doors that nobody wanted then or now. I have a 58 Chevy Fleetside pickup that I brought home to Kentucky from Omaha Nebraska to restore. I also own a 59 Chevy Stepside and a several muscle cars, that I brought with me when I took the job transfer from California to Kentucky. It was truly sad to see the roof caved in on the Cameo pickup. Hopefully it will sell for a realistic price and not some big money deal that is unrealistic in today's market. I hope that all the folks who make the pilgrimage to the sale, enjoy the journey. From: Arizona Pride! tikua...@yahoo.com To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [old-chevy-truck] This has to be a dream!! I already have reservations at a motel in Norfolk, NE, 14 miles south of Pierce, NE. This is an opportunity of a life time for a Chevy guy. From: ksfarmmer rsi...@cox.net To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 10:06 AM Subject: [old-chevy-truck] This has to be a dream!! Just found out about a Chevy dealer in Nebraska that has over 500 cars being sold, many NSO. You have to check this out: http://www.vanderbrinkauctions.com/auctions_details.php?detail=135allimages=NO http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/scores-chevys-hidden-50-years-finally-sale-160911547.html?fb_action_ids=175526362622736fb_action_types=og.recommendsfb_ref=facebook_cbfb_source=other_multilineaction_object_map=%7B%22175526362622736%22%3A622162191129558%7Daction_type_map=%7B%22175526362622736%22%3A%22og.recommends%22%7Daction_ref_map=%7B%22175526362622736%22%3A%22facebook_cb%22%7D The video in the second link is unbelievable. 58 Chevy truck with ONE (that's right 1 mile on the odometer). 78 Corvette with 10 miles and many more. Something for everyone here Sorry if the links aren't hot. I am sure you can cut and paste if they don't work by clicking. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] This has to be a dream!!
If you're looking for something wonderful happening in Nebraska, Union Pacific's fully operational steam locomotive, UP844 is making whistle stops in the state right now.Currently at Potter, NE. http://www.up.com/aboutup/special_trains/steam/trace.cfm It's very exciting to be standing on the platform when that big oil-spewing beauty black beauty huffs and puffs its way into the station. Sights and sounds from at least 75 years ago. A mechanical and historical marvel. Must see. On Jun 29, 2013, at 2:39 AM, Arizona Pride! tikua...@yahoo.com wrote: I am contemplating buying a 1962 Chevy Impala; just like the one I had, 1965-1973, on Craig's List, in Minnesota. I'll fly, one way, to Minnesota to visit my cousins, for a week, and pick up my Chevy, if I buy it. If I don't buy that car; I'll definitely buy some Chevy and resell it when I get back home. If I am able to sell RED RYDER; I may just keep the new road trip car.I'll take a leisurely road trip to Pierce, Nebraska and spend a few days enjoying the area and every possible pre-auction event, that I can find. I'll be driving my cool Chevy and meeting people from all over the world. After two days of a historic auction; I'll leisurely head back to Arizona, with a pocketful of memories. See the USA, in our Chevrolets From: Jonas Thaler jonastha...@jonasthaler.com To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 12:25 AM Subject: Re: [old-chevy-truck] This has to be a dream!! This news is going to spread to Scandinavia, Australia etc where there are a lot of Chevy collectors with money. Sigh. Wish I had 500K sitting around in my hobby account! You are so right about enjoying the journey. Auctions like this mostly benefit the auctioneers and their client, the seller. But you never know. And if you don't count on winning a good deal of a lifetime, you can have fun looking at all the incredible stuff. On Jun 27, 2013, at 4:11 PM, Karl Eastman drbog...@yahoo.com wrote: It looked like a random assortment of cars, and several were 4 doors that nobody wanted then or now. I have a 58 Chevy Fleetside pickup that I brought home to Kentucky from Omaha Nebraska to restore. I also own a 59 Chevy Stepside and a several muscle cars, that I brought with me when I took the job transfer from California to Kentucky. It was truly sad to see the roof caved in on the Cameo pickup. Hopefully it will sell for a realistic price and not some big money deal that is unrealistic in today's market. I hope that all the folks who make the pilgrimage to the sale, enjoy the journey. From: Arizona Pride! tikua...@yahoo.com To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [old-chevy-truck] This has to be a dream!! I already have reservations at a motel in Norfolk, NE, 14 miles south of Pierce, NE. This is an opportunity of a life time for a Chevy guy. From: ksfarmmer rsi...@cox.net To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 10:06 AM Subject: [old-chevy-truck] This has to be a dream!! Just found out about a Chevy dealer in Nebraska that has over 500 cars being sold, many NSO. You have to check this out: http://www.vanderbrinkauctions.com/auctions_details.php?detail=135allimages=NO http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/scores-chevys-hidden-50-years-finally-sale-160911547.html?fb_action_ids=175526362622736fb_action_types=og.recommendsfb_ref=facebook_cbfb_source=other_multilineaction_object_map=%7B%22175526362622736%22%3A622162191129558%7Daction_type_map=%7B%22175526362622736%22%3A%22og.recommends%22%7Daction_ref_map=%7B%22175526362622736%22%3A%22facebook_cb%22%7D The video in the second link is unbelievable. 58 Chevy truck with ONE (that's right 1 mile on the odometer). 78 Corvette with 10 miles and many more. Something for everyone here Sorry if the links aren't hot. I am sure you can cut and paste if they don't work by clicking. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: rattling transmission
Here is a link showing how people do this very technique on customized classic trucks. http://www.customclassictrucks.com/techarticles/1003cct_how_to_safety_wire/photo_10.html (Apparently.) Fascinating. Never knew this. Now I am going to check my shock mounts this weekend! On Jun 8, 2013, at 11:19 PM, Luke Zsiga 50ch...@gmail.com wrote: Great advice Rick. Can't believe I didn't think of that already as I used to work on airplanes and already have a set of safety wire pliers! Thanks a ton, (or a 1/2 ton;) Luke On Saturday, June 8, 2013, Rick Wagner wrote: Lukeread your story here. This is what I would suggest. Find online or where ever a place that sells aircraft quality type bolts. They will have small holes drilled in the head of the bolts which you could wire tie like they do on aircraft. I would do a double and use lock tight with the aircraft bolts then wire tie the bolts after they are torqued in place. I think this would keep them from coming loose. Another way to keep the bolts from coming loose would be to use an old style type of bolt locking washer. They are u shaped and fit between two bolts with tabs that bend up when the bolts are torqued into place. The tabs are bent up to keep the bolt from coming loose. These are very effective but may be hard to find these days as they are old technology. The air craft stuff is very obtainable. Hope this gives you some ideas. Good luck!! Rick On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Luke Zsiga 50ch...@gmail.comjavascript:; wrote: ** Hi Guys, my transmission is making a rattling noise again. This same thing happened two years ago and I found that the bolt holding the front half of the U-joint into the transmission shaft had fallen out and was bouncing around in the U-joint. 10+yrs ago when I installed it I torqued the bolt to whatever was asked, then two years ago I cleaned the threads with brake cleaner to get rid of any oil, applied lock tight and overtightened it but it has still came un done again. I have been driving for about 6 months with this bolt out and nothing has happened. The first time it happened I drove for about a year before fixing it. Do you guys think I could just remove the bolt? Or does anyone have any suggestions on how to make sure it doesnt come out again? Thanks for all your help, Luke [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[old-chevy-truck] Re-sending link to aircraft safety wired bolts
Some nice photos of this technique. http://www.customclassictrucks.com/techarticles/1003cct_how_to_safety_wire/photo_10.html [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: no wheels (still)
I used the LT215/85-16 solution on my 59 3200. I'm very happy with the ride height and now my truck can really haul stuff. Before I rode on 15 P225/75-15's and I was always nervous carrying a load. On May 31, 2013, at 10:22 PM, ccpanel ccpa...@yahoo.com wrote: Im going to run 16x6 rims with 215/85-16 tires on my suburban. MAYBE 225/85-16 either one will look good and look period correct. both are a common and reasonably priced size. 8 lug is gonna be the hard part-you may try a trailer store. lots of tall/skinny and 8 lug. do NOT get a 16.5 rim-tires are expensive, heavy, and stiff and expensive(getting more rare) Mark --- In old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com, Tom Johnston johnstn@... wrote: First I want to thank all those who responded to my questions (subject: no wheels). I gave every response serious consideration and followed up all suggestions. But I have not yet found the answer. In review, I am seeking wheels for my 1946 Chevy 3/4 ton p/u. Steel wheels that look original, and will fit 700-16 bias ply tires. More precisely 16-4 1/2, 8 on 6 1/2 lug pattern. I have been told that maybe mid 70s 3/4 ton Chevy wheels might work. Much older than that, they used split rims, and much newer than that the trucks had disc brakes and the wheels wont fit over brake drums. What do people with older trucks, especially 3/4 ton and up, do about wheels? Of course if you restore 100% original, to show, you must use what came on it, ie, split rims. Correct? I'm pretty sure everyone else deep sixes the split rims. If you don't care too much about staying original there are more options, like using radial tires which can use wider rims, and perhaps go to 15 inch wheels. Some may even go to aluminium or mag or spoker wheels. But I am one of those who think that if you are not going the hot rod or rat rod route (and that's perfectly ok), then it should at least look original. And for me that means bias ply, high profile tires. I lived in the 1940s so I remember what these trucks looked like. But I am not locked into anything. I am keeping an open mind about it and if I must go to lower profile tires then I will. But I need to do something. By the way, I did consider the suggestion about putting it on rollers of some kind, (the tires have rotted out from under this thing and it is sitting on the old split rims). But I do need to be able to roll it out doors onto a gravel driveway. Tom [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] A few items needed for my 58
Unless you want to be authentic and install the original T3 high and low beam lamps. They were in use until some time in the 60's I think. There should be plenty of NOS ones floating around still on the auction site(s). On May 16, 2013, at 6:47 PM, Bill Hanlon bill_han...@comcast.net wrote: If you are looking for the low beam bulbs any FLAPS, WalMart, etc will have them. Stock were 4001, you can now find halogen replacements in the same physical size that put out more light. Look for a H4001. From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [mailto:old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Alagna Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 4:18 PM To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [old-chevy-truck] A few items needed for my 58 I can't help you out but I have a request for everyone as well: Where do you get low beam headlights for a 59 Apache? Thanks, Tom From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com mailto:old-chevy-truck%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com mailto:old-chevy-truck%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Nicholasm Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 12:25 PM To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com mailto:old-chevy-truck%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [old-chevy-truck] A few items needed for my 58 Hi Guys, I am currently trying to get my Dad's 58 Apache up and running. I am in need of a few items, hopefully someone can help me out. I need a set of PAINTED headlight bezels from a 58/59 Chevy. I am also looking for a set of ORIGINAL,dull is ok, CHROME Bumper Guards from a 58/59 GMC. Thanks a bunch and Keep on Truckin. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] 8 Lug 16 Wheels
So sorry to hear that you wasted your time and got attitude to boot. To use a technical term: that sucks. In case it matters I dealt with Shelli mostly. I did have a totally different experience. I found a 16 van wheel which fit my 59 3200 perfectly and accommodates the narrowest and highest-profile radial I could find. From memory they are LT 215/85R/16. They look great (correct ride height). I would have to drill them for hubcap clips, but I thought they looked silly on those bigger wheels anyway when I mocked it up. Shelli was very patient with me and we shipped wheels back and forth a couple of times. There was a weird inconsistency with stock and manufacturer model numbers and she eventually found me the right ones. Maybe the wheels I got were from the 80's. One of my alternatives was to actually have the wheels custom made. There was a wheel shop in Corona, CA I found who were smart and communicative. I was going to have to give them a SLEW of exact measurements, eg setback, etc. and it was going to be pricey. On May 1, 2013, at 9:18 AM, Tom Johnston john...@whidbey.net wrote: Jonas wrote: I repeat my recommendation of Hubcap Heaven in Nashville, TN. http://www.hubcapheavennashville.com/ If they don't already have 'em, they can find these wheels and will not rip you off. They arrive clean in a real cardboard wheel box! ight track. Hi Jonas. You must have had a lot different experience with Hubcap Heaven than I just did on the phone. First thing the lady did was ask what year truck I had. When I told her she lost all interest in talking to me at all (they were busy, I'll give them that). She said they only go back as far as the late 80s or 90s. When I asked about fitment and something to accomodate brake drums she didn't even want to talk to me. Tom [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re : 8 Lug 16 Wheels
I repeat my recommendation of Hubcap Heaven in Nashville, TN. http://www.hubcapheavennashville.com/ If they don't already have 'em, they can find these wheels and will not rip you off. They arrive clean in a real cardboard wheel box! On Apr 30, 2013, at 6:00 AM, Nate vwna...@yahoo.com wrote: Good morning Tom ; Many use the wheels from 1970's vintage Econoline Vans. They're out there and cheap , have the correct offset and clear the drums and tie rods ends fine . They're still a very popular wheel for Work Tricks so they tend to go pretty fast in the So. Cal. junkyards I use . They won't hold your hub caps . I hope no one uses split rims anymore , you're on the right track. -Nate Tom wrote : First I want to thank all those who responded to my questions (subject: no wheels). I gave every response serious consideration and followed up all suggestions. But I have not yet found the answer. In review, I am seeking wheels for my 1946 Chevy 3/4 ton p/u. Steel wheels that look original, and will fit 700-16 bias ply tires. More precisely 16-4 1/2, 8 on 6 1/2 lug pattern. I have been told that maybe mid 70s 3/4 ton Chevy wheels might work. Much older than that, they used split rims, and much newer than that the trucks had disc brakes and the wheels wont fit over brake drums. What do people with older trucks, especially 3/4 ton and up, do about wheels? Of course if you restore 100% original, to show, you must use what came on it, ie, split rims. Correct? I'm pretty sure everyone else deep sixes the split rims. If you don't care too much about staying original there are more options, like using radial tires which can use wider rims, and perhaps go to 15 inch wheels. Some may even go to aluminium or mag or spoker wheels. But I am one of those who think that if you are not going the hot rod or rat rod route (and that's perfectly ok), then it should at least look original. And for me that means bias ply, high profile tires. I lived in the 1940s so I remember what these trucks looked like. But I am not locked into anything. I am keeping an open mind about it and if I must go to lower profile tires then I will. But I need to do something. By the way, I did consider the suggestion about putting it on rollers of some kind, (the tires have rotted out from under this thing and it is sitting on the old split rims). But I do need to be able to roll it out doors onto a gravel driveway. Tom [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Tune up hijacked!
For people who live in places where there is copious sunlight, finding a shady spot to do the tune-up is essential. And marking the BB with some kind of glow in the dark magic toenail polish (dollar store!) really helps as well. On Apr 20, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Deve Krehbiel dkrehb...@cox.net wrote: I am working as I have time on Nate's Tuneup procedure. He did a wonderful job of making a really detailed procedure, but I want to add pictures of each step and really make it sweet. Hang in there all who are waiting for it, it's worth the wait. The website is undergoing a very massive upgrade. My youngest son is a web programmer and is making it awesome. The step-by-step procedure on the complete frame-up restoration is also changing. In the past 10 years, paint technology has changed so much that I took a good look at the frame I did 10 years ago, didnt like the way it looked, and started over with the new methods. This means I will be shooting pics and explaining things in finer detail soon. Soon however is a relative term and I wish I had more time! The re-riveting procedure IS up on the site now and I promise the next thing is Nate's Tuning Procedure. Thanks for the encouragement! Meanwhile, all of you AD Fans, check this out: http://www.flickr.com/photos/advance-design_parts_co/8250842127/in/set-72157 632186114015 -Original Message- From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [mailto:old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chico Woodhill Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 4:09 PM To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [old-chevy-truck] Tune up hijacked! Deve, I've been lurking this list since 1999 (back when Bob Adler was the go-to knowledge wizard, the role that Nate has since taken to the next level). In those days I was fascinated by your web pages, the level of detail you were putting into your projects, and all the great pictures of your progress. I've been patiently waiting these last 10 years, checking in every so often to see what's new on your site. Very glad to hear you're back on it! -- chico On Mar 28, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Deve Krehbiel dkrehb...@cox.net wrote: I am putting the finishing touches on the re-riveting document now, so in about a week or so, I should have it on the site. Then other documents will start happening faster.. My son is helping me completely re-do the site. Its been over 10 years since I put anything new there but things are about to change. Deve www.speedprint.com/Deves50 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] no wheels
I had very good luck with the women who run HUBCAP HEAVEN in Nashville. They kept at it until I had a set of four 16 wheels for my 59 3200 which worked perfectly for what I wanted to do. They gave me credit for the ones which didn't work. They looked at jpegs and returned emails right away. http://www.hubcapheavennashville.com/ Hope this helps. ~~jonas On Apr 15, 2013, at 6:02 PM, corval...@peoplepc.com wrote: Are any of these rims close? Bill in Oregon http://tinyurl.com/cz8jm8o == -Original Message- From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [mailto:old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Johnston Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 5:03 PM To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Subject: [old-chevy-truck] no wheels Hi Chevy truckers Well I finally decided to start on a 1946 3/4 ton pickup that has been sitting in my barn for the last 25 years. First things first, I need to put some tires on it, as all its tires are rotten and will not even hold air. When it came to me it had 750-15 tires on the back and 750-17 on the front. What it was delivered with new, I haven't a clue. I would like to put 700-16 tires on it all around, and get rid of the split rim wheels. I suppose I could put lower profile tires on it, but it just would not look right IMO. What do you think? The problem is, there are no wheels available that I can find. What I want are 16 inch stamped steel wheels 5 to 6 inchs wide, with 8 on 6 1/2 lug pattern, which will handle the large brake drums. Coker say they are out of stock and it may be a half of year before they get any, if they ever do. If I can't get the wheels I need I will either have to settle for wider tires, or use the split rims which I won't do, or part the truck out. I hate to part it out as it is a complete and rust free truck. Any ideas out there? Any one know of a source for the wheels I want? Thanx. Tom Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Correct OEM Wheels for 58 Apache?
Aha! You are ½ correct. I learned the hard way that there are two designs. Both seem to have the same GM stock number 1621. One has a hub that is too small, with a center hole with scalloped shapes; hole diameter is about 3 3/16. That one would need to be machined out to the larger round size. Sadly, most of the wheels available are the smaller scallopped-hole design. The one you want has the perfectly round hole, 3 ¾ in diameter, just like the 1950's wheels. FYI: The wheels I bought that did FIT (with the center hole perfectly round and 3 ¾ in diameter) had the following markings in between the lug holes: 1) 15 G K1/93 2) 77 B K1/82 (or maybe K1/92) 3) (?) J (?) and on the rim on either side of the valve stem: 1) K193 10 27 RAJ 2) K192 2 28 RAJ 3) (?) (?) (?) RAJ And, if you're still reading this . Shelley and Carole, the very smart women at Hubcap Heaven in Nashville, TN, helped me figure this out and were very gracious about exchanging wheels until we got it right. Hope this helps! =-=-=jonas On Feb 6, 2013, at 8:25 AM, Dan Lovell dan_lov...@yahoo.com wrote: Jonas, Thanks for the info, and I like your solution, but I've read that the '88-'98 GM Wheels (like the link) although they have a 6 lug pattern, the hub is smaller and will not fit a 50s Task force truck without some machining. Is this one like the ones you're using? http://www.ebay.com/itm/1988-98-CHEVROLET-GMC-TRUCK-VAN-16-X-6-5-6-LUG-STEEL-WHEEL-NOS-SINGLE-WHEEL-/350558154034?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessorieshash=item519ee4ed32vxp=mtr From: Jonas Thaler jonastha...@jonasthaler.com To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [old-chevy-truck] Correct OEM Wheels for 58 Apache? After much research: I put 16-inch wheels on my 59 3200, fitted with LT215/85R16 radials.This aspect ratio looks more like the original bias ply and the ride height is perfect. There did not appear to be a suitable size radial that fit 15in wheels, and gave the correct ride height, except maybe one available only in Canada, which I never even really located. My 16in wheels are from early 1990's GM vans and they cost me no more than than $50-60 each used online including shipping. I tried to find them at Pick-A-Part but to no avail. They are very heavy duty and look 100% old school. I did not re-fit the hubcaps, because, well, my truck is a working girl and who needs 'em?The wheels look great painted fire engine red and the ride height is nice and tall as GM intended it to be. It rides very smoothly, and does not know what a speed bump is. And the best part is I can now actually haul stuff in the truck because the tires are LT light truck rather than P passenger. Took me a bit of time and energy, but the results are great and it was not too expensive. =-=-=jt On Jan 29, 2013, at 2:45 PM, Dan Lovell dan_lov...@yahoo.com wrote: Looking for an inexpensive way to get my 58 Apache back to spec tires and wheels. Would be great to run across an old set of originals.. I've looked and no luck yet. Any aftermarket that are close? And I was thinking 15x8 but below someone mentioned 7 or 7.5 Whitewall tires would be nice too but I'm wanting this thing to drive right, more than just looks. Any help appreciated! From: Jonas Thaler jonastha...@jonasthaler.com To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 1:57 AM Subject: Re: [old-chevy-truck] Finally -- new wheels and real, manly, TRUCK TIRES! Nate, thanks for the vote of confidence! You and a couple of others here inspired me to do my homework. AFTER I got B-S-'ed by the lying-sack-of-shirt guy at Just Tires, and threw $400 down the crapper, I started reading up on tires and wheels. It occurred to me, when I was hauling an entire kitchen of tile and sacks of cement down from the Valley on tires that were meant for a Mercury Marauder or a Lincoln Town Car, that I was ACTUALLY USING IT AS A TRUCK and might be endangering myself and others. On Aug 18, 2012, at 10:46 PM, Nate vwna...@yahoo.com wrote: Jonas ; It sounds to me like you're going to be well pleased . Few bother to sort out the correct wheels tires , this means their truck looks cool but drives like crap , after a few years they dump it and get another project These old trucks are extremely nice drivers in spite of no power steering , this is no accident ! GM knew exactly what they were doing . -Nate Jonas wrote : I think I might have solved the wheel tire and ride-height problem on my 59 3200. Or at least I have taken a step, maybe a gamble. I found some very solid steel wheels from a 1990's Chevy van or pickup. They are 16 and the wheel-industry part number appears
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Correct OEM Wheels for Task Force Trucks
Fast is a sub-set of happy! Not necessarily a sub-set of safe, however. I also figured out that highway speed and ride height (obviously) were going to be determined by outer diameter. I think I'm at 31 or 32 now. My truck is now suitably menacing despite the sweet harmless green and white paint job. On Feb 4, 2013, at 9:43 AM, Nate nathan.h...@lacity.org wrote: Yes ; Happy Safe is good , you forgot _fast_ =8-) . Speed in old trucks is a relative thing but taking the time to sort out the loose front end spring shackles then fitting a good set of _radial_ LT tires , makes a world of difference . I ran 16 6 lug rims on my '49 with Dayton LT's and it stuck to the road like glue in spite of way too fast in the canyons . they also wore like iron in spite of heavy Commercial Service and lots of towing , the boob who bought then destroyed my old '49 prolly threw out the custom made 4 WWW tires I had on it . I now have a '69 C/10 and it came to me with FUGLY American Racing steel spoked wheels from , oh , 1972 I'd guess ~ they still had the original blue red painted pinstripes amd crappy 14 tires , it took me a while to find a set of original 15 steel wheels , sadly in 1969 you could get 15 or _16.5_ wheels tires , I went down that horrible 16.5 road once , never again . Happliy I met a nice young fellow who was building an ' Old School ' Truck , he was shickled titless to get those worthless wheels tires I even gave him the original chrome lug nuts after I'd cleaned them up a bit . I always buy my tires by the outer diameter tread width and my Son insisted I try Falcon LT tires , they're very good indeed *but* the biggest O.D. they make is only 28.9 ~ this means my poor old truck cannot go 65 MPH without buzzing the crap out of it's tiny little 250 CID InLine 6 Banger.. At least they are proper 6 lug 15 factory wheels and are now white and have the correct painted poverty hub caps like a proper Ranch/Farm/Work Truck ought . Hopefully the TH350C lock up torque converter tranny I bought , will raise the usable Highway speed . You are correct , most Salesmen are not interested in Servicing the Customer , they just want to move the highest profit margin junk or clear out old stock or worse , sell you what _they_ think is cool man ! . -Nate Jonas wrote : I forgot to give Nate credit for the Jonas' solution! (Thank you for sharing this knowledge, not readily available elsewhere! It's amazing how little a lot of the thieves in the tire and wheel business actually now about their products ) I like my truck better without the hubcaps. The truck is Galway green and cream and I painted the wheels fire engine red. I have read of people who have drilled the 16 wheels and inserted the clips without a problem, but I think they are a bit small and weenie for those macho 16 wheels. It has more of a factory-yard farm look to it now, which I prefer. This is all about driving on radials. If you want to stay with 15 wheels, there is probably a set of bias-ply waiting for you at Coker or somewhere, for too much money (IMHO). (Right?) Then she becomes a trailer queen and you should never drive her very fast or carry a load. I don't ever drive my truck fast, but I do like to carry a load now and then. I took home a ton of tile the other day which I bought at a discount if I could haul it away, which I could. Happy. That and safe is what counts. On Feb 2, 2013, at 8:20 AM, Nate wrote: Look at Jonas' solution , he got back to the 16 wheels , maybe not having original hub cap attachment though . I recently had to find a full set of 6 lug 15 wheels for my '60 C/10 , I kept hitting up various Pick-A-Part yards and found two or three on one older truck , I was surprised but pleased , they looked terrible with many old coats of peeling paint but where solid so I bead blasted powder coated them , they look fine and work well plus hold the original hub caps fine . I'm still waiting to see the pictures of them . Good luck hunting ! . -Nate Dan wrote : Looking for an inexpensive way to get my 58 Apache back to spec tires and wheels. Would be great to run across an old set of originals.. I've looked and no luck yet. Any aftermarket that are close? And I was thinking 15x8 but below someone mentioned 7 or 7.5 Whitewall tires would be nice too but I'm wanting this thing to drive right, more than just looks. Any help appreciated! From: Jonas Thaler To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 1:57 AM Subject: Re: [old-chevy-truck] Finally -- new wheels and real, manly, TRUCK TIRES! Nate, thanks for the vote of confidence! You and a couple
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Correct OEM Wheels for 58 Apache?
I forgot to give Nate credit for the Jonas' solution! (Thank you for sharing this knowledge, not readily available elsewhere! It's amazing how little a lot of the thieves in the tire and wheel business actually now about their products ) I like my truck better without the hubcaps. The truck is Galway green and cream and I painted the wheels fire engine red. I have read of people who have drilled the 16 wheels and inserted the clips without a problem, but I think they are a bit small and weenie for those macho 16 wheels. It has more of a factory-yard farm look to it now, which I prefer. This is all about driving on radials. If you want to stay with 15 wheels, there is probably a set of bias-ply waiting for you at Coker or somewhere, for too much money (IMHO).(Right?) Then she becomes a trailer queen and you should never drive her very fast or carry a load. I don't ever drive my truck fast, but I do like to carry a load now and then. I took home a ton of tile the other day which I bought at a discount if I could haul it away, which I could. Happy. That and safe is what counts. On Feb 2, 2013, at 8:20 AM, Nate vwna...@yahoo.com wrote: Look at Jonas' solution , he got back to the 16 wheels , maybe not having original hub cap attachment though . I recently had to find a full set of 6 lug 15 wheels for my '60 C/10 , I kept hitting up various Pick-A-Part yards and found two or three on one older truck , I was surprised but pleased , they looked terrible with many old coats of peeling paint but where solid so I bead blasted powder coated them , they look fine and work well plus hold the original hub caps fine . I'm still waiting to see the pictures of them . Good luck hunting ! . -Nate Dan wrote : Looking for an inexpensive way to get my 58 Apache back to spec tires and wheels. Would be great to run across an old set of originals.. I've looked and no luck yet. Any aftermarket that are close? And I was thinking 15x8 but below someone mentioned 7 or 7.5 Whitewall tires would be nice too but I'm wanting this thing to drive right, more than just looks. Any help appreciated! From: Jonas Thaler To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 1:57 AM Subject: Re: [old-chevy-truck] Finally -- new wheels and real, manly, TRUCK TIRES! Nate, thanks for the vote of confidence! You and a couple of others here inspired me to do my homework. AFTER I got B-S-'ed by the lying-sack-of-shirt guy at Just Tires, and threw $400 down the crapper, I started reading up on tires and wheels. It occurred to me, when I was hauling an entire kitchen of tile and sacks of cement down from the Valley on tires that were meant for a Mercury Marauder or a Lincoln Town Car, that I was ACTUALLY USING IT AS A TRUCK and might be endangering myself and others. On Aug 18, 2012, at 10:46 PM, Nate wrote: Jonas ; It sounds to me like you're going to be well pleased . Few bother to sort out the correct wheels tires , this means their truck looks cool but drives like crap , after a few years they dump it and get another project These old trucks are extremely nice drivers in spite of no power steering , this is no accident ! GM knew exactly what they were doing . -Nate Jonas wrote : I think I might have solved the wheel tire and ride-height problem on my 59 3200. Or at least I have taken a step, maybe a gamble. I found some very solid steel wheels from a 1990's Chevy van or pickup. They are 16 and the wheel-industry part number appears to be 1621. The wheels fit the truck perfectly. I can now stop driving on those car tires (225/75R15) which were way too fat and too low and not properly load rated. These wheels will sport LT215/85R16 tires, which are thinner and taller and much closer to the original 7.0 or 7.5x15 bias ply that the truck might have come with. And boy are the wheels and tires heavier than the car tires that were on there. (Could that cause a problem?) The ride height is going to be 2 inches taller than it is now, and within a half-inch of what it would be with the bias tires. And I think will be happy! For now I have dispensed with hubcaps and have painted the wheels Fire Engine Red. The truck is Galway Green and Cream. So sue me! haveTW none of this cost very much. At one point I was looking at having custom wheels made. I got lost in all the metrics of setback, etc. My 1621 wheels, BTW, have the same setback as the original 15 wheels. They just stiick out a bit more on the outside. I will post pictures next week when I pick the tires up from being mounted and get some new lug nuts. The ones I have now are really chewed up
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Correct OEM Wheels for 58 Apache?
After much research: I put 16-inch wheels on my 59 3200, fitted with LT215/85R16 radials. This aspect ratio looks more like the original bias ply and the ride height is perfect. There did not appear to be a suitable size radial that fit 15in wheels, and gave the correct ride height, except maybe one available only in Canada, which I never even really located. My 16in wheels are from early 1990's GM vans and they cost me no more than than $50-60 each used online including shipping. I tried to find them at Pick-A-Part but to no avail. They are very heavy duty and look 100% old school. I did not re-fit the hubcaps, because, well, my truck is a working girl and who needs 'em?The wheels look great painted fire engine red and the ride height is nice and tall as GM intended it to be. It rides very smoothly, and does not know what a speed bump is. And the best part is I can now actually haul stuff in the truck because the tires are LT light truck rather than P passenger. Took me a bit of time and energy, but the results are great and it was not too expensive. =-=-=jt On Jan 29, 2013, at 2:45 PM, Dan Lovell dan_lov...@yahoo.com wrote: Looking for an inexpensive way to get my 58 Apache back to spec tires and wheels. Would be great to run across an old set of originals.. I've looked and no luck yet. Any aftermarket that are close? And I was thinking 15x8 but below someone mentioned 7 or 7.5 Whitewall tires would be nice too but I'm wanting this thing to drive right, more than just looks. Any help appreciated! From: Jonas Thaler jonastha...@jonasthaler.com To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 1:57 AM Subject: Re: [old-chevy-truck] Finally -- new wheels and real, manly, TRUCK TIRES! Nate, thanks for the vote of confidence! You and a couple of others here inspired me to do my homework. AFTER I got B-S-'ed by the lying-sack-of-shirt guy at Just Tires, and threw $400 down the crapper, I started reading up on tires and wheels. It occurred to me, when I was hauling an entire kitchen of tile and sacks of cement down from the Valley on tires that were meant for a Mercury Marauder or a Lincoln Town Car, that I was ACTUALLY USING IT AS A TRUCK and might be endangering myself and others. On Aug 18, 2012, at 10:46 PM, Nate vwna...@yahoo.com wrote: Jonas ; It sounds to me like you're going to be well pleased . Few bother to sort out the correct wheels tires , this means their truck looks cool but drives like crap , after a few years they dump it and get another project These old trucks are extremely nice drivers in spite of no power steering , this is no accident ! GM knew exactly what they were doing . -Nate Jonas wrote : I think I might have solved the wheel tire and ride-height problem on my 59 3200. Or at least I have taken a step, maybe a gamble. I found some very solid steel wheels from a 1990's Chevy van or pickup. They are 16 and the wheel-industry part number appears to be 1621. The wheels fit the truck perfectly. I can now stop driving on those car tires (225/75R15) which were way too fat and too low and not properly load rated. These wheels will sport LT215/85R16 tires, which are thinner and taller and much closer to the original 7.0 or 7.5x15 bias ply that the truck might have come with. And boy are the wheels and tires heavier than the car tires that were on there. (Could that cause a problem?) The ride height is going to be 2 inches taller than it is now, and within a half-inch of what it would be with the bias tires. And I think will be happy! For now I have dispensed with hubcaps and have painted the wheels Fire Engine Red. The truck is Galway Green and Cream. So sue me! haveTW none of this cost very much. At one point I was looking at having custom wheels made. I got lost in all the metrics of setback, etc. My 1621 wheels, BTW, have the same setback as the original 15 wheels. They just stiick out a bit more on the outside. I will post pictures next week when I pick the tires up from being mounted and get some new lug nuts. The ones I have now are really chewed up. Thanks for listening. Any comments? Am I creating a monster? jonas [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe
[old-chevy-truck] Re: [Oletrucks] 261 engine near greeley
FWIW I kick myself a little bit for not buying a good 261 for $200 when I was deciding what to do with my 1959 3200. I ended up rebuilding a 1962 235 car engine. That was about 2006. I have to say that, despite kicking myself for being too lazy to drive 50miles to pick up the engine, my 235 is AWESOME. Strong and dependable. What an amazing industrial machine. I really think the 6cyl gas engines of its generation were beautiful and historic and I'm proud to drive around with it.Next truck I will try and utilize a 261 but if anyone ever tries to get my 235 they are going to have to pry it out of my cold dead claws! On Jan 24, 2013, at 6:50 AM, Rick Kremer kremer...@aol.com wrote: Durwood, Way to look out for your fellow truckers. Nice Job! I scored a 261 off craigslist a few years back and am just waiting for the right truck to drop it into. With a camaro t5 behind it, it should be alot of fun to drive. Rick -Original Message- From: Durwood B. Darbin dhckdk...@hotmail.com To: Oletrucks list oletru...@autox.team.net; yahoo group old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com; Old Chevy Suburban list old-burb-c...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, Jan 23, 2013 8:54 pm Subject: [Oletrucks] 261 engine near greeley Hello ole truckers. I have located another 261 engine in a truck at a junkyard ear Greeley Colorado. If you want it, I will direct you to the exact vehicle ut you have to take it out. I can be there for moral support but I can't elp cuz I'm still healing from rotator cuff repair. If you want it then ping e at dhckdkcsk (at) hotmail.com and put 'Greeley 261' in the subject line. MMKay?? The last one cost me $250 and no core charge but you would have to ake the deal, just don't tell the owner that it is a 261. ;-) Durwood @ TESRWNN 51 Chevy 1/2 ton Deluxe 5 window 52 Burb 54 Jimmy 1/2 ton Deluxe 5 window __ oletru...@autox.team.net onate: http://www.team.net/donate.html uggested annual donation $11.47 rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/oletrucks/kremer...@aol.com ___ oletru...@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/oletrucks/jonastha...@jonasthaler.com Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[old-chevy-truck] Replacement Accelerator pedal
I'd like to complain about shoddily-vulcanized after-market accelerator pedals. I just replaced one that had spooned into a concave shape from driving about 100 miles. I just replaced it with another crap one. (sad) The [problem is the metal spine was made with metal that's just TOO THIN. I wish I had saved my old worn-out one. Maybe I could have had it re-vulcanized. I have a 59 3200. Anyone else run into this pathetic problem? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Replacement Accelerator pedal
I was going to bolt a stiff piece of steel on the back. And try to use a low profile pan head screw that doesnt look too bad. Not much of a plater am I! (Although please explain! Sounds interesting.) And I will scour junkyards and find a real old strong one that might or not need vulcanizing. On Nov 12, 2012, at 5:10 PM, harley davidson harley_dad...@yahoo.com wrote: Can you plate the back of it to stiffen it up ? Wolf --- On Mon, 11/12/12, Jonas Thaler jonastha...@jonasthaler.com wrote: From: Jonas Thaler jonastha...@jonasthaler.com Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Replacement Accelerator pedal To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, November 12, 2012, 7:03 PM I'd like to complain about shoddily-vulcanized after-market accelerator pedals. I just replaced one that had spooned into a concave shape from driving about 100 miles. I just replaced it with another crap one. (sad) The [problem is the metal spine was made with metal that's just TOO THIN. I wish I had saved my old worn-out one. Maybe I could have had it re-vulcanized. I have a 59 3200. Anyone else run into this pathetic problem? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] My trip to St. Joe part 3
James, I loved your story. It could be expanded into a novel! The kind I would enjoy reading because it reminds me so much of the day-to-day adventures of my own life. These old trucks and the way they evolve tell stories about the people behind the wheel. Keep on sharing! On Oct 21, 2012, at 9:47 AM, James Tye dazys...@yahoo.com wrote: Just to give some more background on this truck, my dad bought it in 1960 when I was 2. It had 29000 miles on it then. He took it to Reno, NV from Jamesport, MO. Since then it has been on numerous trips, about 40 miles woth. It has had a few engines and transmissions and a rear end out of a 57 Chevy van. We have pictures of it inside the tree at Yosimite, on the continental divide, etc. Once in 1968 it pulled a trailer from Reno to Jamsport, MO with mom driving as dad drove a Ford 2 ton ahead with a trailer and that was a move. So this has always been a well cared for work truck. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Carby Question - FIXED! LOL
Are you saying that you tightened down the spring or took the spring off and re-installed it tighter? On Sep 8, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Roy rmark...@cox.net wrote: I am constantly reminded that you can fix things faster if you get your head out of your butt. The symptoms of my problem suggested a fast idle issue. However, what it was is that when I put the new carby in, there was just enough binding so that when slowly releasing the pedal, the engine stayed at a fast idle but if you tapped the pedal, it gave the spring just enough extra momentum to completely seat the idle screw. Boy is my face red...LOL Roy '51 3600 The Sleepy Dragon - Original Message - From: rmark...@cox.net To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Cc: Allen Jones Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 11:43 AM Subject: RE: [old-chevy-truck] Carby Question The engine is a 216. The carbs are Carter 964S's. there is a spring that winds around the choke shaft that I think provides a counterbalance kinda like a window sash weight. I believe that choking is only required at start up and if you get a rich enough mix with one it should work well and my engine starts first time every time winter and summer. I would like to fix my problem, of course, but what I am really trying to do is understand heow the fast idle circuit works. My guess is that pulling the choke causes the hi-speed idle to engage. Then, after the engine warms up and the choke is pushed in, a tap on the accelerator disengages the hi-speed idle. In my case somehow the hi-speed idle arm engages on its own without pulling on the choke but a tap on the accelerater disengages it . That is why I am thinking about that spring. However, everything I have said here is either a guess, a supposition, or an assumption. Roy Allen Jones jone...@myuw.net wrote: I have dual carbs too. What model carbs do you have? Rochester B's, Carters? Knowing would help. You say they are manual (cable) but you mention a choke spring? Meaning automatic? I'm assuming this is on an I6? You have to have the choke cable go to BOTH carbs to get both chokes to operate properly, if they are indeed manual. I cabled my chokes in series and it works pretty well. Allen '50 5100 From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com] on behalf of rmark...@cox.net [rmark...@cox.net] Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 6:35 AM To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Carby Question I need to understand how fast idle works. Here is my issue. I hav a dual carb set up and had to replace one. I used one that I rebuilt. Everything works very weel except fast idle. When I am driving the truck and come to a stop, it is in fast idle and I have to tap the accelerator to kick it down. Clearly I did something wrong in my re-build but to fix it I need to understand how it is supposed to work. I can see it is tied to the choke operation. It is a manual choke and the carb in question does not have a choke cable to it, the other one does. I followed the instructions on adjusting fast idle and it appears to be set right. I am wondering if I wound the choke spring too tight or maybe not tight enough. So..have I provided enough to get a little education/help? Thanks, Roy '51 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Carby Question - FIXED! LOL
Ahh.Good work. I live for that moment when you discover how to fix
something like that.
On Sep 8, 2012, at 1:36 PM, rmark...@cox.net wrote:
I did tighten the spring a little but the real fix was to eliminate the
binding in the linkages.
Roy
Jonas Thaler jonastha...@jonasthaler.com wrote:
Are you saying that you tightened down the spring or took the spring off
and re-installed it tighter?
On Sep 8, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Roy rmark...@cox.net wrote:
I am constantly reminded that you can fix things faster if you get your
head out of your butt. The symptoms of my problem suggested a fast idle
issue. However, what it was is that when I put the new carby in, there
was just enough binding so that when slowly releasing the pedal, the
engine stayed at a fast idle but if you tapped the pedal, it gave the
spring just enough extra momentum to completely seat the idle screw. Boy
is my face red...LOL
Roy
'51 3600
The Sleepy Dragon
- Original Message -
From: rmark...@cox.net
To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Allen Jones
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 11:43 AM
Subject: RE: [old-chevy-truck] Carby Question
The engine is a 216. The carbs are Carter 964S's. there is a spring that
winds around the choke shaft that I think provides a counterbalance kinda
like a window sash weight. I believe that choking is only required at
start up and if you get a rich enough mix with one it should work well
and my engine starts first time every time winter and summer. I would
like to fix my problem, of course, but what I am really trying to do is
understand heow the fast idle circuit works. My guess is that pulling the
choke causes the hi-speed idle to engage. Then, after the engine warms up
and the choke is pushed in, a tap on the accelerator disengages the
hi-speed idle. In my case somehow the hi-speed idle arm engages on its
own without pulling on the choke but a tap on the accelerater disengages
it . That is why I am thinking about that spring. However, everything I
have said here is either a guess, a supposition, or an assumption.
Roy
Allen Jones jone...@myuw.net wrote:
I have dual carbs too. What model carbs do you have? Rochester B's,
Carters? Knowing would help. You say they are manual (cable) but you
mention a choke spring? Meaning automatic? I'm assuming this is on an
I6? You have to have the choke cable go to BOTH carbs to get both
chokes to operate properly, if they are indeed manual. I cabled my
chokes in series and it works pretty well.
Allen
'50 5100
From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com]
on behalf of rmark...@cox.net [rmark...@cox.net]
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 6:35 AM
To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Carby Question
I need to understand how fast idle works. Here is my issue. I hav a
dual carb
set up and had to replace one. I used one that I rebuilt. Everything
works very
weel except fast idle. When I am driving the truck and come to a stop,
it is in
fast idle and I have to tap the accelerator to kick it down. Clearly
I did
something wrong in my re-build but to fix it I need to understand how
it is
supposed to work. I can see it is tied to the choke operation. It is a
manual
choke and the carb in question does not have a choke cable to it, the
other one
does. I followed the instructions on adjusting fast idle and it appears
to be
set right. I am wondering if I wound the choke spring too tight or
maybe not
tight enough. So..have I provided enough to get a little education/help?
Thanks,
Roy
'51
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Re: [old-chevy-truck] Clutch and pressure plate
I guess turning the truck upside down (like a giant rotisserie) is not an option. Never mind, that wasn't funny On Sep 7, 2012, at 4:45 PM, James Tye dazys...@yahoo.com wrote: I got my flyweel replaced. With the engine in place, it's quite a chore but I got it done. Now I need a trick. The manual shows the engine upside down to replace this stuff. Working from underneath, when the pressure plate falls on you, it hurts. How do you hold the clutch in place while you put the pressure plate in its place, until you can center the clutch with the centering tool? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Master Cylinder problems
When this happened to me it was my master cylinder. It was completely shot. It was amazing that the truck stopped at all. Testament to the great simple engineering of old American trucks. Anyway, we stuck in a rebuilt one and it bled up and got firm right away and now it stops on a (very large and slow) dime. So, as obvious as this probably sounds, I guess it pays to check the integrity of each individual component. On Aug 26, 2012, at 2:36 PM, hwtrimbl hwtrim...@comcast.net wrote: I have '51 3600 with very low brake pedal. First push goes almost all the way to floor but after I pump a few times I have good brake pedal. I have recently put a new kit in master cylinder with no luck. Master cylinder has been sleeved before so may have excess wear. I bench bled before installation and have bled all the wheel cylinders. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. If I need a new MC anyone have any thoughts on where. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Master Cylinder problems
I think we got the rebuilt cylinder at NAPA. On Aug 26, 2012, at 6:37 PM, Deve Krehbiel dkrehb...@cox.net wrote: When I install a master cylinder in these trucks, I have a small tubing setup that pushes brake fluid into the second stage of the cylinder to help prime the system. So, I fill the cylinder, attach the cutoff brake line that goes from the output of the cylinder BACK into the fill hole, pump it several times. This helps bleed the air out of the bottom part of the cylinder before bleeding the system. An old trick I learned from an old timer who knew his stuff. Anyone else do this? Deve www.speedprint.com/Deves50 -Original Message- From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [mailto:old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonas Thaler Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 6:23 PM To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [old-chevy-truck] Master Cylinder problems When this happened to me it was my master cylinder. It was completely shot. It was amazing that the truck stopped at all. Testament to the great simple engineering of old American trucks. Anyway, we stuck in a rebuilt one and it bled up and got firm right away and now it stops on a (very large and slow) dime. So, as obvious as this probably sounds, I guess it pays to check the integrity of each individual component. On Aug 26, 2012, at 2:36 PM, hwtrimbl hwtrim...@comcast.net wrote: I have '51 3600 with very low brake pedal. First push goes almost all the way to floor but after I pump a few times I have good brake pedal. I have recently put a new kit in master cylinder with no luck. Master cylinder has been sleeved before so may have excess wear. I bench bled before installation and have bled all the wheel cylinders. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. If I need a new MC anyone have any thoughts on where. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] 1948 Chevy Loadmaster/Boyer Fire Engine Restoration.
That fire truck is a beauty! And what a monument to both small town history in general and fire-fighting heroism in particular. Me want one too! The only things I might suggest are to check if the fuel pump is sending fuel and does the carb then spray little sprays of atomized gas into its own throat? And please be careful when you put anything volatile directly into the carburetor! On Aug 19, 2012, at 8:21 AM, tonydsny t...@tonyseideman.com wrote: In 2005, I purchased a 1948 Chevy Loadmaster/Boyer Fire Truck and promptly parked it in my garage, where it has stayed since, virtually untouched. http://www.flickr.com/photos/37075636@N04/sets/72157630956792770/ I was going to wait until I could get it fully restored, but I recently decided that was disrespectful to the machine. I was concerned the engine has locked because it sat for so long, but, on the advice of people in the Stovebolt group, yesterday I pulled the plugs and it turned relatively easy once the compression was released. Because the battery was very, exceedingly, totally dead, I ordered an Optima 6V, which will be arriving the 22nd. Today I'm wire brushing, sanding and gapping the plugs. I am definitely not a car guy; getting the plugs out was a significant achievement for me. But I've got the original manual and a book on Chevy restoration. What other simple things can I do as an inexperienced person to increase the chance of the truck actually starting when I put the battery in? Is it a good idea to use startup fluid? Should I hit the carb with a bunch of Gunk remover? Also, there isn't a lot of rust on the body, but there are some ugly spots. Should I sand them down and put primer as a prep for the actual paint job? I don't like the measles look, but better that than more corrosion. Here are some more shots of the mechanicals: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37075636@N04/sets/72157631115324428/ Can't tell you how good it felt to tug on the flywheel, seem to feel it move, push, and have it rotate. Wow. Having a 25-foot, 3,000 pound doorstop would have been a bit much. Tony Seideman [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: 1948 Chevy Loadmaster/Boyer Fire Engine Restoration.
I just meant that if you are priming the engine by pouring gas directly down the carb throat or spraying in starter fluid (and we have all done those things) there is a risk of a spark catching the volatile vapor where it isn't supposed to and harming the owner rather badly. They say to pour the gas from a small paper cup rather than pour from a gas can, so you aren't dangling a bomb in front of your own face. That's all I meant by that. jt On Aug 19, 2012, at 12:01 PM, tonydsny t...@tonyseideman.com wrote: Thanks so much for the response. It was actually a training truck; never used for fires in my community. They only used it for a few years. Then they put it on ebay. I promised my wife my limit was $1,000. I won it for $2,000. Haven't heard the end of that one yet. Just a quick question: what's wrong with putting a volatile into the carb? Doesn't it already use one--gasoline? Tony Seideman --- In old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com, Jonas Thaler jonasthaler@... wrote: That fire truck is a beauty! And what a monument to both small town history in general and fire-fighting heroism in particular. Me want one too! The only things I might suggest are to check if the fuel pump is sending fuel and does the carb then spray little sprays of atomized gas into its own throat? And please be careful when you put anything volatile directly into the carburetor! On Aug 19, 2012, at 8:21 AM, tonydsny tony@... wrote: In 2005, I purchased a 1948 Chevy Loadmaster/Boyer Fire Truck and promptly parked it in my garage, where it has stayed since, virtually untouched. http://www.flickr.com/photos/37075636@N04/sets/72157630956792770/ I was going to wait until I could get it fully restored, but I recently decided that was disrespectful to the machine. I was concerned the engine has locked because it sat for so long, but, on the advice of people in the Stovebolt group, yesterday I pulled the plugs and it turned relatively easy once the compression was released. Because the battery was very, exceedingly, totally dead, I ordered an Optima 6V, which will be arriving the 22nd. Today I'm wire brushing, sanding and gapping the plugs. I am definitely not a car guy; getting the plugs out was a significant achievement for me. But I've got the original manual and a book on Chevy restoration. What other simple things can I do as an inexperienced person to increase the chance of the truck actually starting when I put the battery in? Is it a good idea to use startup fluid? Should I hit the carb with a bunch of Gunk remover? Also, there isn't a lot of rust on the body, but there are some ugly spots. Should I sand them down and put primer as a prep for the actual paint job? I don't like the measles look, but better that than more corrosion. Here are some more shots of the mechanicals: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37075636@N04/sets/72157631115324428/ Can't tell you how good it felt to tug on the flywheel, seem to feel it move, push, and have it rotate. Wow. Having a 25-foot, 3,000 pound doorstop would have been a bit much. Tony Seideman [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[old-chevy-truck] Finally -- new wheels and real, manly, TRUCK TIRES!
I think I might have solved the wheel tire and ride-height problem on my 59 3200. Or at least I have taken a step, maybe a gamble. I found some very solid steel wheels from a 1990's Chevy van or pickup. They are 16 and the wheel-industry part number appears to be 1621. The wheels fit the truck perfectly. I can now stop driving on those car tires (225/75R15) which were way too fat and too low and not properly load rated. These wheels will sport LT215/85R16 tires, which are thinner and taller and much closer to the original 7.0 or 7.5x15 bias ply that the truck might have come with. And boy are the wheels and tires heavier than the car tires that were on there. (Could that cause a problem?) The ride height is going to be 2 inches taller than it is now, and within a half-inch of what it would be with the bias tires. And I think will be happy! For now I have dispensed with hubcaps and have painted the wheels Fire Engine Red. The truck is Galway Green and Cream. So sue me! haveTW none of this cost very much. At one point I was looking at having custom wheels made. I got lost in all the metrics of setback, etc. My 1621 wheels, BTW, have the same setback as the original 15 wheels. They just stiick out a bit more on the outside. I will post pictures next week when I pick the tires up from being mounted and get some new lug nuts. The ones I have now are really chewed up. Thanks for listening. Any comments? Am I creating a monster? jonas [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Finally -- new wheels and real, manly, TRUCK TIRES!
Nate, thanks for the vote of confidence! You and a couple of others here inspired me to do my homework. AFTER I got B-S-'ed by the lying-sack-of-shirt guy at Just Tires, and threw $400 down the crapper, I started reading up on tires and wheels. It occurred to me, when I was hauling an entire kitchen of tile and sacks of cement down from the Valley on tires that were meant for a Mercury Marauder or a Lincoln Town Car, that I was ACTUALLY USING IT AS A TRUCK and might be endangering myself and others. On Aug 18, 2012, at 10:46 PM, Nate vwna...@yahoo.com wrote: Jonas ; It sounds to me like you're going to be well pleased . Few bother to sort out the correct wheels tires , this means their truck looks cool but drives like crap , after a few years they dump it and get another project These old trucks are extremely nice drivers in spite of no power steering , this is no accident ! GM knew exactly what they were doing . -Nate Jonas wrote : I think I might have solved the wheel tire and ride-height problem on my 59 3200. Or at least I have taken a step, maybe a gamble. I found some very solid steel wheels from a 1990's Chevy van or pickup. They are 16 and the wheel-industry part number appears to be 1621. The wheels fit the truck perfectly. I can now stop driving on those car tires (225/75R15) which were way too fat and too low and not properly load rated. These wheels will sport LT215/85R16 tires, which are thinner and taller and much closer to the original 7.0 or 7.5x15 bias ply that the truck might have come with. And boy are the wheels and tires heavier than the car tires that were on there. (Could that cause a problem?) The ride height is going to be 2 inches taller than it is now, and within a half-inch of what it would be with the bias tires. And I think will be happy! For now I have dispensed with hubcaps and have painted the wheels Fire Engine Red. The truck is Galway Green and Cream. So sue me! haveTW none of this cost very much. At one point I was looking at having custom wheels made. I got lost in all the metrics of setback, etc. My 1621 wheels, BTW, have the same setback as the original 15 wheels. They just stiick out a bit more on the outside. I will post pictures next week when I pick the tires up from being mounted and get some new lug nuts. The ones I have now are really chewed up. Thanks for listening. Any comments? Am I creating a monster? jonas [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: timing with electronic ignition
I put it on my 59 3200 235 and it always starts right up with 4 light pumps of the gas pedal and one tap of the floor starter and runs smooth as a top. On Jul 19, 2012, at 3:29 PM, Deve Krehbiel wrote: Are you happy with Langdon's HEI? I am thinking of going that route too. Thx Allen! Deve www.speedprint.com/Deves50 -Original Message- From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [mailto:old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Allen Jones Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 10:44 PM To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [old-chevy-truck] Re: timing with electronic ignition Correct, not Pertronix. It's HEI and that will be set way different than the stock distributor with breakerless points (Pertronix). The ball is not necessarily at 5 degrees. Stock 49 to 52 are 5 degrees, 53 is 2 degrees. And who knows what has been installed in between. I have Langdon's HEI in my 6 and have it at about 10 degrees BTDC as well. You can also use the knock (ping) method to adjust the timing (which is what I did and still lit back on 10 degrees). Sound like you have it pretty close. I don't have my HEI plugs set to 0.070, something less but more than 0.040. Langdon's instructions has the specs. Allen '50 3100 From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com] on behalf of rmark...@cox.net [rmark...@cox.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 5:44 PM To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Cc: Nate Subject: Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: timing with electronic ignition Nate...not Pertronix. I had a Pertronix but went all the way up to HEI. Gaps are at .70. I started to use your advance till it pings but never got there. I stopped at 10 BTDC basically afraid to go any farther. However, it looks like Bob is at 20 - the original 5 or 6 (BB) plus 15. Roy Nate vwna...@yahoo.commailto:vwnate1%40yahoo.com wrote: The timing remains the same , ball on pointer @ idle speed of 700 RPM os less , check to insure there is NO vacuum signal to the dist. @ idle before you adjust it . Don't forget to open up those plug gaps to .040 to get the full advantage of the Pertronix . -Nate Roy wrote: I put Tom Langdon's HEI ignition on my 216 and it runs very well. However, I am just curious if anyone else has done the same and if you have, what do you have your timing set at? Mine is 10 degrees BTDC. Thanks, Roy '51 3600 The Sleepy Dragon [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Engine Rebuild - 58 Apache - 235 6 cyl
I had the same experience with my 59. All I can say is you will thank yourself later for spending the time and/or money to go through (or have someone go through) that engine and transmission (and all accessory systems, rear end, brakes etc). Also the front end, stabilizers, tie rod ends, etc suspension stuff. With what I consider a minimum of attention, these trucks really know how to start life over again at 50+. My truck is such a pleasure to drive and I use it all the time to pickup materials from Home Depot. I don't baby it and it performs reliably. The 235 does not use very much gas, either. Mine is far from a show truck, but I also don't abuse it and try and keep it cosmetically appealing. It was an investment, but I get a lot of pleasure from it. Much of that was because I had the patience (for once in my life) to do the mechanicals right. There are people who can advise you about where to draw the line with your engine surgery, but my experience was that I did everything, everything now works and I'm glad I did. If you can swing it, that truck is worth it! On Jul 12, 2012, at 9:42 AM, Dan Lovell wrote: Hello all, I acquired a 58 Chevy Apache last summer and haven't been able to get it to run. I come to find out its the engine: compression is shot, the first 3 cylinders measured 40 psi, 70 psi, 40 psi... we didn't continue past that. I'm told it's either the rings or the head gasket. Will this require a full engine rebuild? Is this a project that a dedicated do it yourselfer can pull off? What is the best guide for rebuilding this engine, and any tidbits of advice you can offer? Thanks to all who post on this group, it's most helpful. Dan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Star iron
I can do it, but I have to remember to pull my shins and elbows and my nose out of the way. On Jul 3, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Nate wrote: Me , anyway . =8-) . -Nate Steve Asked : After all, who remembers how to spin a 4-way lug wrench, anyway? Steve 1952 3600 1953 3100 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Brake Bleeder Wrenches
Aaargh! Something is going on with tool manufacturing and reducing stocks. I tried to get one of those big X-shaped lug nut wrenches with a different size wrench on each end. None of the local parts stores in my LA neighborhood had one. A few of the people never heard of them. Orchard Supply Hardware had one for $7, but that took me a while! On Jul 2, 2012, at 10:58 AM, Nate wrote: WTH ?? . I can't find them anywhere ~I've tried Pep Boys , Orrielly's , Ohs , Harbor Freight , Sears , on and on NO ONE even knows what this once important tool is . I need some in 5/16 1/4 size , used is fine , I guess it's back to the Long Beach Swap meet time again as I'm not paying $45 off the Tool Truck for one . -Nate [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re : 3/4T Bed Question
I would risk Extreme Internet Punishment to drive a truck like that around! jt On Feb 23, 2012, at 6:16 AM, Hanlon, Bill wrote: Got it Nate! So one could drop a STOCK Dodge Hemi V8 into one's AD pickup and remain within the letter of the law. From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [mailto:old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:37 PM To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Re : 3/4T Bed Question Yes it would ; It just wouldn't be original nor restored You weisenheimer ! =8-) . -Nate Wise Guy Bill wrote: Gee Steve, it wouldn't be stock. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Engine Stand Needed
I bought an anvil from Harbor Fright that I liked. But I guess it's hard to screw up an anvil! On Jan 17, 2012, at 5:48 PM, Kelsey Farrell wrote: That's why I call it Harbor Fright... - Original Message - From: Lonny To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:50 PM Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Engine Stand Needed No one in their right mind would recommend buying anything from Harbor Freight. 99.% of the crap they sell is nothing but cheap, foreign-made TRASH. === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 9.0.0.898, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.19070) http://www.pctools.com === === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 9.0.0.898, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.19070) http://www.pctools.com/ === [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Quite a Moment
I have to admit, I used up a couple of Kleenexes to read this story. Thanks for sharing it. On Nov 29, 2011, at 6:28 AM, Arizona Real Estate wrote: Your Dad must have instilled a sense of adventure and humor in you; because your payback to him is priceless. Well done. From: fahrbach51 mfahrb...@hughes.net To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 9:10 PM Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Quite a Moment Sorry to bore any of you with a heartfelt story, but my Dad just turned 93 a few days ago. He suffered a stroke in 1994, which impacted his vision such that he could no longer drive. He spent his life taking care of everyone else, and overnight became dependent on others to get him around. It was, and remains, a very tough pill for him to swallow. The other day, I offered to give him a ride in my '51 3600. He beamed, and was so excited to ride within a cab filled with so many reminders of earlier days. You should have seen the grin. I turned off the highway, onto a dirt country road seldom traveled, and asked him if he wanted to take it for a drive. He asked if I was sure, and I said I had never been more so. I ran around to the passenger side, he slid across before I could change my mind. He needed no instruction, just put it in gear, let out the clutch without any throttle, and slowly stepped on the gas. It wasn't but a few minutes and we were in 4th, and I was telling him he should slow down. I do not have the words to describe the look on his face, for those moments he controlled the big wheel and relived so many memories. Man, this baby sure runs good he said, over and over. It was the best time he and I have EVER spent together, and will remain the best memory I will ever have of this truck. If you would like to see a short video of a man in his element, email me and I'll send you a clip. Thanks for listening. Mike Fahrbach 1951 3600 Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Quite a Moment
Well, that explains why you are working so hard to preserve the Frontier Beige paint job that your father did on your truck! I would not remove even one bit of overspray. It's a wonderful memorial that you can drive and enjoy. jt On Nov 29, 2011, at 9:22 AM, G. Kelly wrote: Mike, Your story really touched my heart. What I wouldn't give to be able to do the same with my Father and have him see the special care I've given his old work truck. He passed on August 1, 1999 after 89 years of hard work. All the mechanic tools he left in the truck are still in there just waiting for some farmer to call him asking for help. Even the walking cane I gave him is still under the seat. Garnet - Original Message - From: fahrbach51 Sorry to bore any of you with a heartfelt story, but my Dad just turned 93 a few days ago. He suffered a stroke in 1994, which impacted his vision such that he could no longer drive. He spent his life taking care of everyone else, and overnight became dependent on others to get him around. It was, and remains, a very tough pill for him to swallow. The other day, I offered to give him a ride in my '51 3600. He beamed, and was so excited to ride within a cab filled with so many reminders of earlier days. You should have seen the grin. I turned off the highway, onto a dirt country road seldom traveled, and asked him if he wanted to take it for a drive. He asked if I was sure, and I said I had never been more so. I ran around to the passenger side, he slid across before I could change my mind. He needed no instruction, just put it in gear, let out the clutch without any throttle, and slowly stepped on the gas. It wasn't but a few minutes and we were in 4th, and I was telling him he should slow down. I do not have the words to describe the look on his face, for those moments he controlled the big wheel and relived so many memories. Man, this baby sure runs good he said, over and over. It was the best time he and I have EVER spent together, and will remain the best memory I will ever have of this truck. If you would like to see a short video of a man in his element, email me and I'll send you a clip. Thanks for listening. Mike Fahrbach 1951 3600 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Cooper Tires
For those of us pesky 15 Task Force stalwarts, Cooper has hardly any 15 LT tires that I could see. Other manufacturers do. Jonas Thaler On Nov 29, 2011, at 4:24 PM, twowheeler63 twowheele...@yahoo.com wrote: Bruce, I can't speak for their LT tires, but I'm very satisfied with them for my car. The ones I buy are USA made, and that means a lot to me. --- In old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Ioppini dalianvan@... wrote: Hey guys, please help me out!! Are Cooper LT tires any good??? Thanks, Bruce [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Cooper Tires
Jeez if most tires are made in China, how are things these days in Akron, Ohio? I grew up around there. I guess it's the same in all the manufacturing cities. A major readjustment. Jonas Thaler On Nov 29, 2011, at 6:26 PM, Antonio R. Tijerino anto...@tijerino.net wrote: My daily driver is a Toyota Landcruiser and I just bought a set of Cooper Discoverer A/T for about $700 the set and I am very satisfied with them. I also agree, I will never buy tires made in china and these are made in the US. Thanks, Antonio '53 3100 From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [mailto:old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of twowheeler63 Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:25 PM To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Cooper Tires Bruce, I can't speak for their LT tires, but I'm very satisfied with them for my car. The ones I buy are USA made, and that means a lot to me. --- In old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com mailto:old-chevy-truck%40yahoogroups.com , Bruce Ioppini dalianvan@... wrote: Hey guys, please help me out!! Are Cooper LT tires any good??? Thanks, Bruce [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re : 15 Tire Size Question
I will post some current pics as soon as i get home. It's a 59 3200 Fleetside with a 235... Galway Green with a Creme side spear. Jonas Thaler On Nov 27, 2011, at 3:27 PM, G. Kelly gke...@wolfenet.com wrote: Jonas, I did just figure out how to look at the pictures on iPad in the relative quiet of Dion's Pizza in Albuquerque, NM. I've been through there a few times. You 59 step side is awesome. I love that color... It is painted the original Frontier Biege. My Father repainted it the same color sometime in the mid 1970s. There is some over spray in a few odd places which were difficult to mask off. But after all it was a country repair-shop paint job on a working truck. Who's gonna bitch? I am surprised that the paint job still looks as nice as it does for being out in the weather for 45-50 years. I can't tell much about the ride height from the picture, I can measure front bumper height, rear bumper height, or any height you want. Just tell me. but when I get home I'm going to run the numbers from Nate's make my move and buy some LT tires. Then I will post some pictures. Maybe I'll post before and after... Thanks again. You'll be glad later on that you took some before photos. One can never take enough photos! Speaking of photos, where are the current photos of your 1959 Apache? It'd be nice to see what you have. Garnet [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re : 15 Tire Size Question
I am very excited to check out your truck. I've been traveling and accessing (and i am way behind!!) email on phones and such but will be home tomorrow. Thanks so much for replying to my post. Jonas Thaler On Nov 26, 2011, at 1:40 PM, G. Kelly gke...@wolfenet.com wrote: Jonas, Is there such an animal as LT215/85R15, which presumably would be narrower than the 85? I have not seen one anywhere. Huh? There is a LT215/85R16, but I don't see that size for a 15 inch wheel. If there is you'll find it. Just contact all the manufacturers and tire dealers. Did you even look at the photos of my tires on 15 inch wheels. You've got the same truck. You never did respond. Garnet [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re : 15 Tire Size Question
To Garnet (et al): I did just figure out how to look at the pictures on iPad in the relative quiet of Dion's Pizza in Albuquerque, NM. You 59 step side is awesome. I love that color... I can't tell much about the ride height from the picture, but when I get home I'm going to run the numbers from Nate's make my move and buy some LT tires. Then I will post some pictures. Maybe I'll post before an after... Thanks again. Jonas Thaler On Nov 26, 2011, at 1:40 PM, G. Kelly gke...@wolfenet.com wrote: Jonas, Is there such an animal as LT215/85R15, which presumably would be narrower than the 85? I have not seen one anywhere. Huh? There is a LT215/85R16, but I don't see that size for a 15 inch wheel. If there is you'll find it. Just contact all the manufacturers and tire dealers. Did you even look at the photos of my tires on 15 inch wheels. You've got the same truck. You never did respond. Garnet [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re : 15 Tire Size Question
I meant run the numbers from Nate an Garnet's emails. IPads are wacky... Jonas Thaler On Nov 26, 2011, at 8:01 PM, Jonas Thaler jonastha...@jonasthaler.com wrote: To Garnet (et al): I did just figure out how to look at the pictures on iPad in the relative quiet of Dion's Pizza in Albuquerque, NM. You 59 step side is awesome. I love that color... I can't tell much about the ride height from the picture, but when I get home I'm going to run the numbers from Nate's make my move and buy some LT tires. Then I will post some pictures. Maybe I'll post before an after... Thanks again. Jonas Thaler On Nov 26, 2011, at 1:40 PM, G. Kelly gke...@wolfenet.com wrote: Jonas, Is there such an animal as LT215/85R15, which presumably would be narrower than the 85? I have not seen one anywhere. Huh? There is a LT215/85R16, but I don't see that size for a 15 inch wheel. If there is you'll find it. Just contact all the manufacturers and tire dealers. Did you even look at the photos of my tires on 15 inch wheels. You've got the same truck. You never did respond. Garnet [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re : 15 Tire Size Question
ThanksDon't know for sure but is information may have just saved me thousand dollars or so. And some invaluable reduction in aggravation... Much appreciated... Jonas Thaler On Nov 25, 2011, at 7:22 AM, Nate vwna...@yahoo.com wrote: Not that I have yet found . I'm sure it's available South of the Border (maybe North too @ Canadian Tire) as other countries tend to buy tires for actual need , not what ' looks cool ' =8-^ . Ideally , you'd be wanting a 32 diameter tire , these are 28 29 , pretty close . DO keep looking , I recently got a Falken Tire Co. catalog , my son has been bugging me to try them , I thought they only made low profile racing tires but happliy I spotted several different series of LT tires in there and they have one series I plan to buy a full set of if ever I find those flusherginer 6 lug 16 rims , they're Falken's Toyota Land Cruiser tires , black walled LT's , narrow and tall , plus E rated , 50 # inflation pressure ... pretty good stuff but maybe pricy , I'll let you alls know when I get them . FWIW , when you're looking at LT tires and two are the same size but one costs more , look at the recommended inflation pressures , the higher pressure one will always be the heavier duty one ,(D or E rated) that's what you want , it'll last last carry you and yours safely until you toss them out in 25 years from dry rot . -Nate Jonas wrote: Is there such an animal as LT215/85R15, which presumably would be narrower than the 85? I have not seen one anywhere. Jonas Thaler On Nov 24, 2011, at 3:44 PM, Nate vwnate1@... wrote: For freeway driving and no heavy duty use : TP39452400 215/80R15 For hard truck use , or towing etc. : TL15904000 LT215/75R15 100S 6 BSW this is a true Light Truck Tire . You can go up to a LT235/75R15 for more diameter lower engine speeds *but* this is a wider tire and so will have heavier steering look ' fat ' in the sidewalls . I'd use the LT215/74R15 , maybe I will , it depends if I can find any stock 6 lug wheels , still looking . -Nate [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re : 15 Tire Size Question
Is there such an animal as LT215/85R15, which presumably would be narrower than the 85? I have not seen one anywhere. Jonas Thaler On Nov 24, 2011, at 3:44 PM, Nate vwna...@yahoo.com wrote: For freeway driving and no heavy duty use : TP39452400 215/80R15 For hard truck use , or towing etc. : TL15904000 LT215/75R15 100S 6 BSW this is a true Light Truck Tire . You can go up to a LT235/75R15 for more diameter lower engine speeds *but* this is a wider tire and so will have heavier steering look ' fat ' in the sidewalls . I'd use the LT215/74R15 , maybe I will , it depends if I can find any stock 6 lug wheels , still looking . -Nate [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Tire Size Question
Garnet (or other helpful soul)~ Would you mind sharing the exact radial tire size you got for your (amazing and wonderful) 1959 3100? I know it's amazing and wonderful because I have one too. But right now it is sitting on big@$$ car tires, rides too low.I cannot find LT215/85/R15 in anything but HUGE knobby 4WD monsters. Looks like a bad version of a low rider. Nothing against lowriders, but it really isn't one. It just rides too low. And I am afraid to load up the bed. Thanks ---jonas On Nov 16, 2011, at 3:16 PM, G. Kelly wrote: Hi Everyone: I have a 38 Chevy sedan. Does anyone know what the correct equivalent size of a radial tire that would replace the 6;00/16? thanks!! Bruce I'd _highly_ suggest you use LT215/85R16 tires as they're Light Truck rated and your '38 Chevy is a heavy beast . you'll prolly never wear them out if you buy the better tires . I'm running Daytons , I love 'em . -Nate Hi Group, I have been advised by a tire expert that my 600:16 wheels will not accomidate any radial tire. Does anyone else know about this situation? I need new tires and wanna get radials. Thanks, Bruce I don't know if there is a lot of difference between your 1938 16 inch and my 1959 15 inch. Almost 2 years ago I followed Nate's advice to get LT radials for the 15 inch original wheels on my 1959 Apache 3100. After a big search I found the LT radial black-wall tire I was happy with and had them installed. I am quite happy with them. They look and run great! Garnet [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Heater Core
My radiator shop welded a new core into my heater assembly and it's like new now. It cost about $90 a couple of years ago. Jonas Thaler On Oct 17, 2011, at 8:33 PM, fahrbach51 mfahrb...@hughes.net wrote: When I had my radiator rebuilt, I also took in the original heater core. I was told it was shot and beyond repair. Can I ask if anyone has any tips or ideas on where to start looking for one? Mike Fahrbach '51 3600 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] parts for antique. ancient trucks
I believe there is a truck for every truck-lover. I would recommend a lot of research, as much as you can stand, before you make your move. The more you read up and surf the Internet ahead of time, the better. If you don't do research, then you tend to succumb to human nature and make your first purchase solely an emotional decision rather than a rational one. This greatly affects your investment, ie how much money you will have to spend to get this truck to be the way you like it. All that adult stuff. Anyway, the gist of it is KNOW WHAT YOU WANT, know what your dream truck is as best you can before you buy it. As if I EVER followed that advice for about 60 old vehicle purchases! I have had great luck buying parts cheaply from the auction site that rhymes with fee-pay. Also there are a lot of dealers who have internet catalogs like American Classics, Jim Carter and Brothers. Some reproduction parts are garbage, so I would recommend finding a pick-a-part and getting to know what real IRON looks and feels like. And with some looking around you can probably find a mechanic in your area who knows how wonderful these old vehicles are, what a pleasure it is to work on them, and who will make a little money helping you with your amazing new hobby. That's my 2 ¢ jt On Oct 16, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Kim's guy wrote: IF a rusted old beauty, an old truck, an old stake farm truck did come through for me, my gosh a: '48 '49 '55 '56 '57 '60 something '70 something '80 something what do we do when our old, ancient, antique, trucks break down what auto parts store continues to manufacture parts for these vintage vehicles? what do you folks all do please??? THANK YOU! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Overboring
Some of my best friends are...uh...overboring. Sorry. I had the choice between sleeving and using a different (235) block and I decided to use a good junk block I had access to, and all is well. The block came from a 1962 Buick I think, and it had a couple of lugs in the wrong place so the bird legs no longer fit, but we actually made a beautiful custom center motor mount for it. Unless you are looking for bird legs (which I admit I used to think were cool) you can't even notice it. Thanks jonas On Sep 24, 2011, at 6:40 PM, Nate wrote: It's *very* poor practice on several counts : the cylinder wall get too thin so the engine tends to run too hot and this means short engine life . Plug shift when the block was originally casted means the cylinders may have seriously thin spots in their walls , this leads to drop outs where the cylinder simply fractures fails as you're happily Motoring along If the block is a good 'un , have the cylinders sleeved ~ this will be expen$ive but , boring 0.080 over is plain old silly ~ this means way beyond ill advised and well into foolhardy . Any Machinist who suggests such a thing , is no longer on your team . -Nate Ken Wrote ; Hey guys, I posted a question about boring a 235 .080. last week. It is rare that I don't get at least one hit from you guys. My question is; has anyone bored a 235 chev up to .080. They make pistons that size, but I am getting mixed messages from lots of mechanics and machinests about the adviseability. Thanks for any input. Ken [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Overboring
I forgot to mention that my truck is a 1959 3200 Chevy. Cheers. jt On Sep 24, 2011, at 6:46 PM, Jonas Thaler wrote: Some of my best friends are...uh...overboring. Sorry. I had the choice between sleeving and using a different (235) block and I decided to use a good junk block I had access to, and all is well. The block came from a 1962 Buick I think, and it had a couple of lugs in the wrong place so the bird legs no longer fit, but we actually made a beautiful custom center motor mount for it. Unless you are looking for bird legs (which I admit I used to think were cool) you can't even notice it. Thanks jonas On Sep 24, 2011, at 6:40 PM, Nate wrote: It's *very* poor practice on several counts : the cylinder wall get too thin so the engine tends to run too hot and this means short engine life . Plug shift when the block was originally casted means the cylinders may have seriously thin spots in their walls , this leads to drop outs where the cylinder simply fractures fails as you're happily Motoring along If the block is a good 'un , have the cylinders sleeved ~ this will be expen$ive but , boring 0.080 over is plain old silly ~ this means way beyond ill advised and well into foolhardy . Any Machinist who suggests such a thing , is no longer on your team . -Nate Ken Wrote ; Hey guys, I posted a question about boring a 235 .080. last week. It is rare that I don't get at least one hit from you guys. My question is; has anyone bored a 235 chev up to .080. They make pistons that size, but I am getting mixed messages from lots of mechanics and machinests about the adviseability. Thanks for any input. Ken [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Links with no message
I feel bad for the people running the list. The spammers are mostly wasting their own time and money. Nobody on this list reads their malarkey. And if I need medication, I can ask my doctor. Thanks for providing the service to this wonderful hobby. On Mar 15, 2011, at 5:50 AM, den...@mcgilliscompany.com wrote: Dedicated to the preservation and restoration of stock 1941-1959 Chevy and GMC trucks. KEEP IT STOCK!It looks like we have two spammers working our list. Any link without a message is likely to create trouble. Dennis - Original Message - From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 4:08 AM Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Digest Number 4423 Dedicated to the preservation and restoration of stock 1941-1959 Chevy and GMC trucks. KEEP IT STOCK! Messages In This Digest (2 Messages) 1. heyz From: Ferlin McAlister 2. (no subject) From: Max Richardson View All Topics | Create New Topic Messages 1. heyz Posted by: Ferlin McAlister ferli...@yahoo.com ferlin_m Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:12 pm (PDT) Look good store http://caiintelligent.com/pillshere.htm Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1) 2. (no subject) Posted by: Max Richardson thegibsonfivestr...@yahoo.com thegibsonfivestring Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:12 pm (PDT) http://eurostileglobal.com/store/movies.html [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity a.. 2 New Members Visit Your Group Give Back Yahoo! for Good Get inspired by a good cause. Y! Toolbar Get it Free! easy 1-click access to your groups. Yahoo! Groups Start a group in 3 easy steps. Connect with others. Need to Reply? Click one of the Reply links to respond to a specific message in the Daily Digest. Create New Topic | Visit Your Group on the Web Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Individual | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Loose steering
I just did all the things you list in your email; ie a complete front end rebuild, short of rebuilding the steering box. The truck (59 3200) handles a dream now compared to before. The drag link was too thin and bowed so bad you could shoot arrows on it. Still a bit of play in the steering box, but acceptable. The new link is much heavier duty and holds the wheels in the right relative position at all times. When you hit a bump it all doesn't go to H. I recommend new parts in the front end On Jan 1, 2011, at 10:15 AM, JZ wrote: One of my winter projects is fixing the loose steering on my 54 Chevy 1/2 ton now that I am on the road and running legal. I tightened the steering box screw and greased the front end, packing all the fittings completely. Put the front end up and looked for any obvious loose fitting parts. I went from about a 1/3 turn play to about 1/6 play turn but still not what I call really safe. My next step seems to be rebuilding the steering box. Is it worth replacing the tie rod ends, drag link and king pins. The tie rods are original type and aren't they a bit*h to get out? Any advise from someone that's been down this road? Should I take it to have it aligned and have them tell me what wrong? James Zorn zorn...@sbcglobal.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: horn relay question
You could run your house on that relay! (But don't) Merry New Year. On Dec 26, 2010, at 9:40 AM, ccpanel wrote: if you can make a 12V relay work-chevy makes an AWESOME relay I use for tons of stuff. its rated for 200 amps continuous and is meant to be used in a dual battery situation. they are relativly cheap $45 or so. yeah-that sounds like a lot till you look around in the aftermarket. Mark --- In old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com, Mike Burns mp.bu...@... wrote: My 1940 half ton had only 1 fuse in it. I have decided to add a nice small 8 circuit fuse block to it. My plan was to use a relay to switch power on and off to the fuse block. The relay will be controlled by the ignition switch. The only 6 volt relay that I have is from an old positive ground Ford. In order to make it work, I will have to connect the relay coil backwards. I tested the relay and was surprised to find that it operated fine with the coil hooked up either way. My questions are: 1.Will a horn relay last when on for long periods of time? 2. How is it that a DC relay coil works no matter what polarity it is connected to? Thanks Mike Burns [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Aircraft #13 on the Doolittle Raid
We really do care about Veterans, the flag, our brave soldiers, etc, but this forum is for Old Chevrolet Trucks. Can we at least discuss MILITARY TRUCKS? A bonafide fascinating subject about which I am very curious and know very little. Anyone have any military truck stories? ===jt On Dec 6, 2010, at 2:51 AM, G. Kelly wrote: If I happen to be out somewhere and they ask if there are any veterans in the crowd frequently I am the only one who stands up. It is becoming more sad each time to see just how few younger people care. Garnet - Original Message - Thank you Rob . There would be no old trucks for us to play and work with and on , if not for our Veterans . For those who _still_ don't get it , please go to this group's home page and read the rules written by Rob . Like it or not , it's Rob's group and we should all respect that . I didn't like the lead in comments either but it is not my group and I am gratified I'm allowed to be here . -Nate [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] FW: Aircraft #13 on the Doolittle Raid
Thank you! You said it MUCH better and MUCH more POLITELY than I was about to. There is so much common ground, so much useful, factual, historical and purely joyful stuff to discuss on our chosen topic, OLD CHEVY TRUCKS, and so little time! Why muck things up with political jabber, which can easily be found on TV, on the Internet, or engaged in at any bar? jonas On Dec 4, 2010, at 7:27 PM, Ken Cluley wrote: What the hell does this have to do with old trucks? --- On Sat, 12/4/10, Rob J jacobs...@gscwireless.net wrote: From: Rob J jacobs...@gscwireless.net Subject: [old-chevy-truck] FW: Aircraft #13 on the Doolittle Raid To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 9:11 PM Rec'd from a correspondent in mail group of heroes. Give a big Hoo-ah! to the US Navy and the Army Doolittle Crews for their raid. What courage, what uncommon bravery. Yet note the author's assertion: They simply did their job. Each of them felt that they were in the company of heroes, but not a hero themselves. This is a great read. It was a different time, though not necessarily a time of lesser danger than now. We simply responded to an attack on America by declaring total war on the perpetrators and their allies and pursued them until their capacity to make war was totally destroyed. We were a bold and great people then. Today about half the population acts like a pathetic bunch of PC-whimps! Compare Pre-revolutionary France [of the late 18th Century]: Now our Secretary of State acts like Talleyrand, our President acts like Louis XVI, his Wife acts like Marie Antoinette, and the Congress acts like the useless Estates General. The King dismissed Patriots like Lafayette who wanted to create a free France, but the collectivists, revolutionaries, and anarchists of the day had different ideas and brought mayhem and destruction. Ten years later Napoleon ruled France as a total dictator and roamed Europe trampling other nation states under foot almost at will. The aftermath of Napoleon's defeat created a vacuum, fertile ground for Karl Marx [1818-83] and his theories to take root. We have been fighting communism ever since. Read an unbiased history to discover what happened to all these folks... it is worth your time! But I digress Our pathetic, Left-dominated education system fails to tell the stories of these old warriors ... or for that matter, old warriors from Korea, Viet Nam, the Hot-Cold Wars of the 60s,70s 80s, GWI and GWII, and Afghanistan. Our children [some even well into their 50s] have absolutely no sense of the sacrifices it takes to keep us free, and have only known the good life. Is it any wonder that the country languishes in 10% unemployment, but won't take those measures that will turn this country back into the engine of freedom in the world. Fewer than 1/3 [like Steny Hoyer] of our Congress Members have ever served in the military. Very few of those who served are combat veterans. Men under 55 year of age were not subject to the draft. Fewer than 7%-10% of men [depending on age group] under 55 are veterans. This is a pathetic statement of willingness to support and defend the Constitution and our Republic. It would seem that most talk about giving back to our Country did not apply to military service. Compare this to the 70+% who served during the WWII, Korea, and Vietnam era. Draw your own conclusions about the future of America if the Progressives finish their agenda of social engineering in the USA. wrm _ Should be required reading for all Americans Great first-hand account of an important event in WWII history. Aircraft #13 on the Doolittle Raid ~~~ For you historians, this is an interesting account of the Doolittle raid on the mainland of Japan in early WW ll. Enjoy! This is a really excellent firsthand account by the pilot of aircraft #13 on the Doolittle Raid off the Hornet in 1942. Take the time and enjoy a bit of history. _ _ My name is Edgar McElroy. My friends call me Mac. I was born and raised in Ennis , Texas the youngest of five children, son of Harry and Jennie McElroy. Folks say that I was the quiet one. We lived at609 North Dallas Street and attended the Presbyterian Church. My dad had an auto mechanic's shop downtown close to the main fire station. My family was a hard working bunch, and I was expected to work at dad's garage after school and on Saturdays, so I grew up in an atmosphere of machinery, oil and grease. Occasionally I would hear a lone plane fly over, and would run out in the street and strain my eyes against the sun to watch it. Someday, that would be me up there! I really like cars, and I was always busy on some project, and it wasn't long before I decided to build my very own Model-T out of spare parts. I got an engine from over here, a frame from over there, and wheels from
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: 2009 Chevrolet vs. 1959 Chevrolet
Be sure not to include the period after 50thcrash in the URL on your browser. On Dec 1, 2010, at 2:04 AM, Arizona Real Estate wrote: Still works for me. --- On Tue, 11/30/10, G. Kelly gke...@wolfenet.com wrote: From: G. Kelly gke...@wolfenet.com Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Re: 2009 Chevrolet vs. 1959 Chevrolet To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 6:34 PM Allen, Did the site go down? I get this after clicking on the link: We're sorry, the video you've requested is unavailable at this time. Please try again later. Garnet === - Original Message - If someone hasn't seen this, it is interesting. http://www.iihs.org/video.aspx/info/50thcrash. Take note of the A pillar performance between the Malibu and Bel Air - it's remarkable. It really does drive home the point on what to expect in a offset frontal impact. I think this would even apply to our old trucks. I get a false sense of security thinking my added seat belts will protect me in a serious crash. Not to mention the javelin of a steering column that will likely impale thought my chest. It is a shame they destroyed the Bel Air. This email is full of happy thoughts... Allen '50 3100 PS Also note the dust (or is it sand blast grit?) that comes out of the rocker panel of the Bel Air on impact. Impressive. Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] sheet metal issues 52 AD
Or at least we try! On Sep 16, 2010, at 3:12 PM, K Ohlgren wrote: it was a truck. we make them better than the showroom floor Kurt 58 3100 Apache project the Duracell Project it keeps going... and going... When I die, i want to go asleep and peaceful, not screaming and freaking out like everyone else in the car. To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com From: whetstone.retr...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:54:58 + Subject: [old-chevy-truck] sheet metal issues 52 AD Anybody run into this? After stripping the paint off the fenders, I found on the right rear fender creases left over from the stamping process that apparently no attempt had been made to fill them---just filled in with paint. Couldn't tell after nearly 60 yrs later and two lousy repaints, but must have been pretty noticeable off the show room floor. Am I too naive about what I thought quality control was like back then? Ken W. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] RE: 59 speedo
The odometer part is very very simple.I think four screws come out to access it. My advice is to be careful that the little brass clip which keeps the gears in alignment is nice and tight. To reset to zero you pull that clip off, turn each wheel to zero (or whatever number) and then replace the clip. On Aug 29, 2010, at 7:27 PM, K Ohlgren wrote: the gear in the trans is new (so is the trans) new cable in old housing (lubed) also the speedo doesn't jump around like a hanging cable. not interested in updating to digital maybe i'll pull it out and look at it. i was going to when i refurbed the face, but for some reason i was intimidated by all the fine parts in there. i'll tear it down, clean it up and reset it to 0 what do i have to lose? thanks for the replies Kurt 58 3100 Apache project the Duracell Project it keeps going... and going... When I die, i want to go asleep and peaceful, not screaming and freaking out like everyone else in the car. From: kjohlg...@hotmail.com To: oletru...@autox.team.net; old_chevroletgmctru...@yahoogroups.com; old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 14:12:36 -0400 Subject: [Oletrucks] 59 speedo the speedo on my 59 reads fast under 30, hangs at 30 from 30 to 45 and then reads slow over 45. is the speedo on my 59 worth rebuilding or should i just buy a new one? lmc has a new speedo for the 55-59 trucks for $150. has anyone bought a lmc speedo? Kurt 58 3100 Apache project the Duracell Project it keeps going... and going... When I die, i want to go asleep and peaceful, not screaming and freaking out like everyone else in the car. ___ oletru...@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/oletrucks/kjohlg...@hotmail.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[old-chevy-truck] Re: [Oletrucks] 59 speedo
My own 59 TF speedo tale of woe: I took out the whole cluster, had it rebuilt for 450 bucks, new chrome on bezel. Re-installed it (and as you might know, it is not an easy job to R R this unit.) All the gauges worked perfectly and the speedo worked like a new car. For two blocks. Right away the odometer froze in place, like at .2 miles. So I pulled the whole thing out again, tagged the lamp wires, etc. I opened up the cluster and discovered that a small brass clip was loose which holds the number wheels in place so their little gears can mesh properly. The clip looked destroyed by metal fatigue. Why that would be I have no idea. So I replaced it with one from a parts cluster I had. Fifty miles later my beautifully installed replacement clip fell off, I guess from vibration. Then about a month later, the speedometer started making a meat grinder sound. The cable and gear are fine. Something is nasty inside the speedo unit itself. Now I am too busy with work to deal with it. I am, however, excited to be having the front end rebuilt. Sigh. On Aug 28, 2010, at 11:12 AM, K Ohlgren wrote: the speedo on my 59 reads fast under 30, hangs at 30 from 30 to 45 and then reads slow over 45. is the speedo on my 59 worth rebuilding or should i just buy a new one? lmc has a new speedo for the 55-59 trucks for $150. has anyone bought a lmc speedo? Kurt 58 3100 Apache project the Duracell Project it keeps going... and going... When I die, i want to go asleep and peaceful, not screaming and freaking out like everyone else in the car. ___ oletru...@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/oletrucks/jonastha...@jonasthaler.com Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: [Old_ChevroletGMCTrucks] Re: [Oletrucks] 59 speedo
Well, I sent in my old unit and paid the money, got the new one, but was so busy that it took me more than a year to to install it, so whatever warranty there was would be long gone! I am pretty sure the person who rebuilt it was selling the rebuild via eBay. All I know is his name was Randy, 4601Randy, to be exact, and I can't really blame him as at one point he offered to service the unit after the thing failed, despite my tardiness, and he seemed nice enough during the transaction. I was traveling all the time for work and never sent it back. One day I will tear it out and bite the bullet! On Aug 28, 2010, at 6:19 PM, G. Kelly wrote: Jonas, Who did the rebuild for you? Garnet = On Aug 28, 2010, Jonas wrote: My own 59 TF speedo tale of woe: I took out the whole cluster, had it rebuilt for 450 bucks, new chrome on bezel. Re-installed it (and as you might know, it is not an easy job to R R this unit.) All the gauges worked perfectly and the speedo worked like a new car. For two blocks. Right away the odometer froze in place, like at .2 miles. So I pulled the whole thing out again, tagged the lamp wires, etc. I opened up the cluster and discovered that a small brass clip was loose which holds the number wheels in place so their little gears can mesh properly. The clip looked destroyed by metal fatigue. Why that would be I have no idea. So I replaced it with one from a parts cluster I had. Fifty miles later my beautifully installed replacement clip fell off, I guess from vibration. Then about a month later, the speedometer started making a meat grinder sound. The cable and gear are fine. Something is nasty inside the speedo unit itself. Now I am too busy with work to deal with it. I am, however, excited to be having the front end rebuilt. Sigh. === On Aug 28, 2010, at 11:12 AM, K Ohlgren wrote: the speedo on my 59 reads fast under 30, hangs at 30 from 30 to 45 and then reads slow over 45. is the speedo on my 59 worth rebuilding or should i just buy a new one? lmc has a new speedo for the 55-59 trucks for $150. has anyone bought a lmc speedo? Kurt 58 3100 Apache project == [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Cab corners louvers
And I got some, which have held up for 8 years so far, at: http://www.americanclassic.com/ On Aug 15, 2010, at 8:19 AM, SamS wrote: Thanks Ken, thats a new one for me. I checked it out and I can save some money on those parts. The louvers, I couldn't find any on that site. Sam '51 Chev. pick up [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Cab corners louvers
Cab corners AND louvers. !!! On Aug 15, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Jonas Thaler wrote: And I got some, which have held up for 8 years so far, at: http://www.americanclassic.com/ On Aug 15, 2010, at 8:19 AM, SamS wrote: Thanks Ken, thats a new one for me. I checked it out and I can save some money on those parts. The louvers, I couldn't find any on that site. Sam '51 Chev. pick up [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re:Fw: Great place for hard to find car parts!
I ordered an automatic leg-puller, cause I'm not as good at it as some people around here! ; ) jt On Aug 14, 2010, at 11:25 AM, dennis.mcgil...@mcgilliscompany.com wrote: http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=index That is a great source, thanks Nate! And the product reviews are almost as good as the descriptions. I ordered the 710 Cap Johnson Rod Kuhneutson Valve Muffler Bearing Piston Return Spring Left Handed Metric Screwdriver Sky Hook Set Blinker Fluid Elbow Grease Heavy Duty Clutch Belt Seasonal Tire Air My '53 pickup will be awesome. Thanks, Dennis [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: 'Grouply ' Invites from your old-chevy-truck
At first glance it looks like these Grouply people have hit every yahoo and Google group they can to promote their website. Their business plan would have to include ADVERTISING on the site, or why would they bother? We are already saturated with advertising and people who advertise the excess advertising tend to annoy me! Personally I can manage all my groups just fine with my email client and I love not having to look at ads. jt On Dec 10, 2008, at 7:49 AM, vwnate1 wrote: What ; you don't like us trying to help each other out ? . I notice you didn't sign your name... -Nate --- In old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com, Old Chevy Pickup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just joined this site and I have to read this nonsense, no thanks To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 23:16:10 +Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Re: 'Grouply ' Invites from your old- chevy-truck Here's the deal ;Grouply is a fairly well known ' hisihing ' site and apparently many people are using it without any problems so they simply want us to share the fun...I always decline these invites but I've had more than one off list reply telling me they're having no problems with Grouply...If _you_ think giving strangers your passwords _and_ written permission to make all the changes to your your data they want , go ahead and do it , I'll be over here in the dark corner , paranoid .-Nate [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] cracked 216 news
Sounds like KARMA. You got a perfect block that's rare as hen's teeth and you ridded yourself and your business of a sub-par (or at least problematic) employee. You will enjoy your truck all the more because of the adversity you have been through together. On Nov 28, 2008, at 6:24 PM, Jeffrey Pohlar wrote: Might remember that back in March 08 I discovered an external crack in the cyl block of my 216. Since then I've been trying to figure a good solution. I still used the truck anyway, but just had to make sure that it was kept full of coolant etc. Well during the summer, while my one employee was using the truck for personal use, it was severly overheated and blew a head gasket at the very least. One thing I knew for sure, when water was put in the radiator, #5 cyl filled up with water and water ran out between the block and head. Contrary to what he told me, I strongly suspect that he overheated it many times while he was using it to go back and forth to work. I've heard that evidence through the grapevine around here after the fact. In my world of equipment repair, that likely means that all the previously new valve springs are shot and the piston rings have shrunk along with a certainly warped and possibly cracked head to go along with an already cracked block. Although I painstakenly overhauled that engine 6-7 years ago, it probably still only had 12,000 miles on it. Oh well. I should've known better. He no longer works here. Not just because of that. He had other issues as well. Luckily, I was the winning bidder of the NOS 216 short block on eBay a couple of days ago. It has arrived and I am amazed with it. It still has the Genuine Chevrolet Replacement Parts tag hanging on it with the recommended break in procedures. Although its dusty/dirty, it has no oxidation to speak of. It is coated with a very thin film of something. Must be good stuff. The casting date code shows it to be a late 49 casting but it has the same block casting number as the 53 model year engine currently in the truck. Looks like I'll be building another 216 soon. This one has to be completely disassembled for cleaning but I can live with that. I also have an empty NOS cyl head here that I picked up a couple of years ago but I may or may not use it. Depends on the condition of my warped head after an inspection. Pretty happy about this situation so far so I thought I'd share. It amazes me what NOS parts are still floating around. Someone recently had a boatload of AD Chev truck stuff a couple of months ago. There was alot of stuff I wanted but just couldn't justify it. Jeff in Clermont, FL 53 3800 Chev (parked for now) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Radio restoration - Keep it Stock!
That spurs a memory for me too.When I finished high school, I bought a sparkly blue 65 Chevy 1/2 ton, it had a 235, three on the tree and it was a step-side. At that time it was a spring chicken, only eight years old!!!I really wanted an El Camino with a big V-8 and wide tires etc, but our insurance agent lived next door and my dad said NO WAY. This was in Cleveland Ohio and I while recovering from surgery the summer after twelfth grade, I built a meticulously-detailed hippie- style redwood house on the back of my truck.I was still not fully healed and some friends drove it to San Francisco for me and I flew out and it became my vehicle while I was at college at UC Berkeley. First of several GM pickup trucks I accumulated in the Bay Area during those years. I drove that pickup truck back and forth between Ohio and the Bay Area for holidays over and over. I-80 was like my personal driveway home in those days. My friends and I ALWAYS found trucks to draft behind to conserve gas and we too sailed along for hours at a time that way, achieving ridiculously low MPGs. Remember, this was the FIRST gas crunch in America and we were poor college students.. Without a clue that truck drivers understandably abhor that kind of driving, and that it added a lot of danger to something that is already pretty risky! It's amazing that that carefree youth survived to be a mellow and careful grey-haired truck lover today. HAPPY GM-TRUCKING!! On Aug 23, 2008, at 12:33 PM, cyclingbro wrote: --- In old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com, Rod LaFrance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rod, I laughed at your coments as well. If I think about my driving at that time 55 was to slow for me as well. A few packages bounced off in my time :) However Glad to be here and I see the speed demon gene in my daughter as well. I am glad to have survived my youth with all the crazy stunts in cars and trucks, Hope I survive it as a parent. Good Luck with the radio. Charlie Charlie, Thanks for your post. Great information, but I suspect I'll have someone else cleanup and repair this radio, It worked when I took it out, hopefully will fix-up again. I can read an electrical schematic to the point I get in trouble. I had a chuckle regarding your comments on brakes. I drove similar trucks in the vegetable fields as a youth to the produce houses. As a youth I also drove this truck from Spokane to School in Portland for a few years. Original brakes. Than it was double nickle speed, which worked well for this stock truck. But, I'd find a trucker doing 60+, and tuck in behind to catch the draft, I'd sail down the long late night highways. In retrospect, those truckers probably called me names to them self, and I probably caused them undue worry. I should be thankful I'm still here to restore my truck. And if I was to catch a child of mine doing this same stupid stunt.Off topic, sorry. Rod L --- In old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com, cyclingbro cyclingbro@ wrote: --- In old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com, Larry Anderson landerso@ wrote: THANKS for the Web site.This is exactly what I have been looking for..Trying to keep my truck stock but wanted a radio. Larry 49 GMC now with a 270 Hi All, I have been out of the country for a bit. This argument seems to have gone far and and wide from the radio, However I am into the radios and will try to stay foucused. (good luck to me : ) If the radio is in ok shape, don't mind the dirt and dust. The most common failure is at the power supply. It is the basis and most fragile part of the circut. Replacing the vibrator tube with a solid state version and the 2 filter caps will not only be a great start but repair many radios in a not working. Parts cost about 40 dollars from http://www.tubesandmore.com/ I got into it a bit, bid on a few from ebay and was ripped off everytime. Kinda wary of many there in this area. If you can follow a schematic a bit (seem to all be online) Purchase a power supply fire it up and measure the voltages at the tubes. Not there ? replace the poorly engineered vibrator (ac/dc converter) with a solid state one. The 2 large filter caps are most likely the only other failures in the cap section. Most tubes are probably still good. My radio in my 58 sounds huge and so fat being all tube. To bad most of the music is disney channel but my 6 yr old loves it. I am into staying stock as long as possible. If safety is a concern (as it should be) Maybe some brake mods for a rod, but stock brakes properly set should be strong. As a teen I drove a 2 1/2 ton loaded with produce and the drum brakes were always great. Anyway, Lets keep this era going and show American Engineering in all its glory. Best to ya all, Charlie [Non-text
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Radio restoration
I have not tried them, but I have heard about S S ELECTRONICS (818) 790-2660 4602 Grand Ave La Cañada-Flintridge CA 91011 RADIO repair, tube or transistor, auto radios 1930-1970, home radio from 1930-1960, parts labor guaranteed, 40 years experience. SS Electronics, 818-790-2660, near Pasadena, CA. You might give them a call. jonas On Aug 10, 2008, at 3:41 PM, Rod LaFrance wrote: Hello I have my radio from my 1950 Chevy truck that I need restored. Are there still dependable folks doing this? I'm on the West coast, so a reliable person or shop on the west coast would be my first choice, but I'll ship it to any respected individual or shop to get it repaired correctly. Has anyone restored their own radio? Is this something I can do with proper instructions? Any thoughts? Rod L Greenacres, WA. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Free-Stuff!
I thought we got rid of you and your non-truck-related spam. How many other groups do you victimize like this? On Jul 20, 2008, at 11:33 PM, brachael56 wrote: Here is your opportunity to get something for nothing with NO CATCH! Visit the link below. Choose a gift. They send it to you...its as easy as that! I was sent the link by a friend, I tried it and I got the freebies...excellent! http://snipurl.com/freebiegiveaway Take care and have a great week! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: [oletrucks] Re: [Old_ChevroletGMCTrucks] my webpage is back to life
Maybe I was just too busy enjoying the old trucks so much that I didn't feel sick. I I have a great love of old junkyards filled with history. I went onto this man's website and carefully examined every one of those beautiful slowly-rusting hulks, wishing I could buy even one of them and restore it. Of course having done that, I know better to look and not touch right now. It takes a bit of work to maintain a virtual parts yard online. Bravo for that. On Oct 22, 2007, at 4:13 AM, charles olson wrote: Evidently there are those few who are not aware of the recent studies of computer graphics and motion sickness: Motion sickness is emerging as a propensity of almost any form of visual computer graphics that depict motion to the user, as quoted in an online article of Scientific American. I admire people who become informed before they opine. --- Jonas Thaler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's a great website and I like the swirling background. I don't mean to offend either, but I think a guy who gets motion sickness from 30 seconds of watching a website had better see a doctor right away. On Oct 21, 2007, at 8:13 PM, charles olson wrote: Mark, I sincerely don't mean to be a negative whiner, but I just looked at your site and within 30 seconds my perception of your waving graphics caused me to have the symptoms of motion sickness; I had to stop looking at it. I only hope to help, not offend. Charlie in AZ Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 1959 Your messages not reaching the list? Check out http://www.team.net/posting.html === Help keep Team.Net on the air === http://www.team.net/donate.html === unsubscribe/change address requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or try === http://www.team.net/cgi-bin/majorcool === Other lists available at === http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo === Archives at http://www.team.net/archive === http://www.team.net/the-local === Edit your replies! Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[old-chevy-truck] Re: [oletrucks] Re: [Old_ChevroletGMCTrucks] my webpage is back to life
I think it's a great website and I like the swirling background. I don't mean to offend either, but I think a guy who gets motion sickness from 30 seconds of watching a website had better see a doctor right away. On Oct 21, 2007, at 8:13 PM, charles olson wrote: Mark, I sincerely don't mean to be a negative whiner, but I just looked at your site and within 30 seconds my perception of your waving graphics caused me to have the symptoms of motion sickness; I had to stop looking at it. I only hope to help, not offend. Charlie in AZ Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and 1959 Your messages not reaching the list? Check out http://www.team.net/posting.html === Help keep Team.Net on the air === http://www.team.net/donate.html === unsubscribe/change address requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or try === http://www.team.net/cgi-bin/majorcool === Other lists available at === http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo === Archives at http://www.team.net/archive === http://www.team.net/the-local === Edit your replies! Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] It's Alive!
All he gets is 7 years? I say ask for 70 years of pure enjoyment. Might as well go for it. jt On Oct 4, 2007, at 8:20 AM, Tom C wrote: Great work, Antonio! Now to get on with 7 more years of pure enjoyment. Congratulations on a job well done! Tom Caperton '47-2nd Series ... in Whiteville, NC [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Antonio Tijerino To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 10:01 PM Subject: [old-chevy-truck] It's Alive! Guys, You have no idea how excited I am tonight, after almost 7 years working on my truck I was finally able to start the engine on my truck today. I had some minor set backs, for example the fuel pump was dry and I could not get any gas to the carburetor, finally ended up putting a good half of cup of gas into the carb and that engine started and because I install dual split headers it was puring like a kitten. The truck is '53 3100, the engine is a rebuilt 57 car engine with the ignition key starter, single carb, dual split headers, Langdon's HEI ignition, 4 speed Saginaw with a Patrick's shifter. I have an open driveline with a later year rear with a bit better ratio. Next improvements planned are power brakes with disks on the front. The body still needs work, but I drive it like that until I get to finish the body. Regards, Antonio '53 3100 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] one of the more ridiculous auctions ive seen
Those Canopy Expresses look gorgeous when they are restored. I think it's a shame that the classic auto market doesn't appreciate specialty vehicles like hearses and ambulances. But this was a factory offering, was it not? To me the Canopy Express is a perfect reminder of a gentler time when farming was the cultural backbone of our country. I remember that when I was in first grade (a LONG time ago) and learning to read, Dick and Jane and Spot lived on a farm! jt On Sep 23, 2007, at 8:36 PM, Jeff Pohlar wrote: Not so fast Mark, I had to look close to see if that was a hacked up Panel but it appears to me that is an early Canopy Express? Can anyone confirm it. Jeff [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Fuel pressure
My two cents - any plumber will tell you (at least mine did) that if you raise your water pressure too high (illegally) at the regulator outside your house, the first thing to malfunction or even blow up will be your toilets. I guess the Venturi principle depends upon an understanding of pressure. When my truck is back together I promise to listen to this sage advice. On Sep 3, 2007, at 10:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm certainly the least of expert of this group yet, I could not agree with you more Jeff. Just explained to my brothers wife, the carburator works just like the toilet. H'mm, could it be a bad needle seat but not bad enough to flood out, but yet run richer than wanted ??? Though engine performance would probably be noticed. Just a thought---maybe check that float needle seat for a good shut off. SteveColumbusGA59 Apache Fleetside Ft.Benning GA /HTML [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: HELP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Our 49 has 15/16 Lugs; and we can't find the right wrench
How about hosting a truck pull as a fund raiser for your museum? There are organizations which run those events and they are a lot of fun. A classic truck show with trophies, cotton candy, sausages. Lots of summer chrome. Real Americana. !!! On May 29, 2007, at 3:24 PM, Don Kirk wrote: I'm in Sheridan, Oregon. If you've never heard of it, it's about 30 miles W-Nw of Salem; and 55 miles S-SW of Portland. Unfortunantly the only breaker bar I can get is a 3/4 drive; and the socket is about $18. (in Sheridan). If I'm going to purchase a socket for a wrench I don't own, I might as well buy the $30. star wrench at Napa. That way I'd have it to keep. Opening a museum is not cheap. You guys restore one or two vehicles. Imagine a couple of dozen, plus a monorail, locomotives, railcars, trollies, horse-drawn wagons, tractors, airplanes (when we get one), etc. You can see why I'm not ready to fork over $30. for a wrench I'll use once every few years. If any of you are near here, I'd really appreciate borrowing a 15/16th.; or if you have a tow truck, or know how to free up the locked brakes, please come HELP! We have been given a couple of 46 somewhat parted out chevy pickups; and any help getting them here from WA would make for some parts available for some of you. Don [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Engine mount difficulties
You are right and I am looking into that jonas On Apr 18, 2007, at 3:23 AM, James Tye wrote: I might be fulla something, but I think you'll have to pull the timing cover, cam, and remove the front plate, replacing it with one that has the holes for the front motor mount so you can then bolt to the front crossmember. Such plates are available and can be found on ebay, or the stovebolt forum. Or you could drill the holes, but this is a tricky business best left to a machinist, and even then you'll want a plate to compare it to. Jonas Thaler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It turned out to be a passenger car block. We are deciding what to do right now. On Apr 17, 2007, at 6:28 AM, vwnate1 wrote: Sounds like the wrong engine block for a Task Force truck to me . -Nate Jonas wrote: Again I apologize for repeating myself! I replaced the block on my 235 in my 59 3200 and now it is built up and ready to install. My mechanic says that the new block is not drilled the same way as the old block and he cannot use the same mounting plate in the front. He thinks the new block is meant to mount in the center, According to the pictures I took before I removed the old engine (before I got my new job and had to hire someone to finish the truck) the old block mounts attached on either side just behind the timing cover. Is it possible that we got a block that is not compatible with the cross member on my 59? Anybody have a clue? I got one nice reply so far which made me want to go back and re-examine the new block, which I will do next week. But I am still hoping someone knows about these blocks and can clear it up right away Thanks again so much [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: *Possible SPAM* Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Engine mount difficulties
Very kind of you to help, but I did not get the picture attachment. ---jonas On Apr 18, 2007, at 8:56 AM, K M Lehmann wrote: James, if you have the cover plate shown in this picture it can be drilled. Lee 1929 - 1957 Chevrolet Master Parts Accessories Catalog Click Here to ENLARGE Page in a new window Alphabetical Index Illustration Index Previous Page Index Next Page Click Here for the Main Index of Old Online Chevy Manuals WebCounter says that you are visitor number: Please Report any Broken Links or Pages that do not load properly. Webmaster This Information is for Research and the Promotion of the Preservation of Older Chevys All Names, Trademarks and Logos Belong to their Respective Owners. Web Space Provided by TOCMP - Original Message - From: James Tye To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 3:23 AM Subject: *Possible SPAM* Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Engine mount difficulties I might be fulla something, but I think you'll have to pull the timing cover, cam, and remove the front plate, replacing it with one that has the holes for the front motor mount so you can then bolt to the front crossmember. Such plates are available and can be found on ebay, or the stovebolt forum. Or you could drill the holes, but this is a tricky business best left to a machinist, and even then you'll want a plate to compare it to. Jonas Thaler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It turned out to be a passenger car block. We are deciding what to do right now. On Apr 17, 2007, at 6:28 AM, vwnate1 wrote: Sounds like the wrong engine block for a Task Force truck to me . -Nate Jonas wrote: Again I apologize for repeating myself! I replaced the block on my 235 in my 59 3200 and now it is built up and ready to install. My mechanic says that the new block is not drilled the same way as the old block and he cannot use the same mounting plate in the front. He thinks the new block is meant to mount in the center, According to the pictures I took before I removed the old engine (before I got my new job and had to hire someone to finish the truck) the old block mounts attached on either side just behind the timing cover. Is it possible that we got a block that is not compatible with the cross member on my 59? Anybody have a clue? I got one nice reply so far which made me want to go back and re-examine the new block, which I will do next week. But I am still hoping someone knows about these blocks and can clear it up right away Thanks again so much [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: *Possible SPAM* Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Engine mount difficulties
I found the manual on line http://chevy.tocmp.com/1929_57chevyparts/index.htm Very helpful On Apr 18, 2007, at 10:03 AM, Jones, Allen wrote: The group list is set up to strip all attachments. Pictures must be posted in the group area or sent directly to an intended recipient. Allen '50 3100 From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Jonas Thaler Sent: Wed 4/18/2007 11:18 AM To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Cc: K M Lehmann Subject: Re: *Possible SPAM* Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Engine mount difficulties Very kind of you to help, but I did not get the picture attachment. ---jonas On Apr 18, 2007, at 8:56 AM, K M Lehmann wrote: James, if you have the cover plate shown in this picture it can be drilled. Lee 1929 - 1957 Chevrolet Master Parts Accessories Catalog Click Here to ENLARGE Page in a new window Alphabetical Index Illustration Index Previous Page Index Next Page Click Here for the Main Index of Old Online Chevy Manuals WebCounter says that you are visitor number: Please Report any Broken Links or Pages that do not load properly. Webmaster This Information is for Research and the Promotion of the Preservation of Older Chevys All Names, Trademarks and Logos Belong to their Respective Owners. Web Space Provided by TOCMP - Original Message - From: James Tye To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 3:23 AM Subject: *Possible SPAM* Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Engine mount difficulties I might be fulla something, but I think you'll have to pull the timing cover, cam, and remove the front plate, replacing it with one that has the holes for the front motor mount so you can then bolt to the front crossmember. Such plates are available and can be found on ebay, or the stovebolt forum. Or you could drill the holes, but this is a tricky business best left to a machinist, and even then you'll want a plate to compare it to. Jonas Thaler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It turned out to be a passenger car block. We are deciding what to do right now. On Apr 17, 2007, at 6:28 AM, vwnate1 wrote: Sounds like the wrong engine block for a Task Force truck to me . -Nate Jonas wrote: Again I apologize for repeating myself! I replaced the block on my 235 in my 59 3200 and now it is built up and ready to install. My mechanic says that the new block is not drilled the same way as the old block and he cannot use the same mounting plate in the front. He thinks the new block is meant to mount in the center, According to the pictures I took before I removed the old engine (before I got my new job and had to hire someone to finish the truck) the old block mounts attached on either side just behind the timing cover. Is it possible that we got a block that is not compatible with the cross member on my 59? Anybody have a clue? I got one nice reply so far which made me want to go back and re-examine the new block, which I will do next week. But I am still hoping someone knows about these blocks and can clear it up right away Thanks again so much [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[old-chevy-truck] Front Engine Mount matching problem
Greetings! Recently I purchased a rebuilt short block for my 1959 Chevy 3200. It is now all built up and ready to go in... looking very pretty and clean enough to eat off.. My mechanic was about to install the engine today and could not because the block did not have holes drilled in the right places for the front motor mounts which are correct for the truck, on either side of the cross-member.It looks as if the block is intended to match up with a center mount, and my mechanic guessed that maybe the block is a passenger car block. Does this predicament sound familiar? Is there an adapter I can purchase which will cradle the engine and allow the mechanic to install this block? Or do I need to change the cross-member? I can't bear the idea that I might just be OUT OF LUCK Help! Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Engine mount difficulties
It turned out to be a passenger car block. We are deciding what to do right now. On Apr 17, 2007, at 6:28 AM, vwnate1 wrote: Sounds like the wrong engine block for a Task Force truck to me . -Nate Jonas wrote: Again I apologize for repeating myself! I replaced the block on my 235 in my 59 3200 and now it is built up and ready to install. My mechanic says that the new block is not drilled the same way as the old block and he cannot use the same mounting plate in the front. He thinks the new block is meant to mount in the center, According to the pictures I took before I removed the old engine (before I got my new job and had to hire someone to finish the truck) the old block mounts attached on either side just behind the timing cover. Is it possible that we got a block that is not compatible with the cross member on my 59? Anybody have a clue? I got one nice reply so far which made me want to go back and re-examine the new block, which I will do next week. But I am still hoping someone knows about these blocks and can clear it up right away Thanks again so much [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[old-chevy-truck] Engine mount difficulties
Again I apologize for repeating myself! I replaced the block on my 235 in my 59 3200 and now it is built up and ready to install. My mechanic says that the new block is not drilled the same way as the old block and he cannot use the same mounting plate in the front. He thinks the new block is meant to mount in the center, According to the pictures I took before I removed the old engine (before I got my new job and had to hire someone to finish the truck) the old block mounts attached on either side just behind the timing cover. Is it possible that we got a block that is not compatible with the cross member on my 59? Anybody have a clue? I got one nice reply so far which made me want to go back and re-examine the new block, which I will do next week. But I am still hoping someone knows about these blocks and can clear it up right away Thanks again so much Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[old-chevy-truck] Re: Engine mount difficulties
Oh I forgot to reply! The new block is the weird one. The old one had the mounts you described on the sides. I got it from Jim Carter as a short block --- they have not replied yet. But your solution sounds very do-able. If you ever come across that article, let me know how to access it. I enjoy your postings. Thanks for the help. jonas On Apr 15, 2007, at 8:22 PM, Nate Filth wrote: Interesting as every '59 I ever saw had the side front engine mounts... If it has the one single mount , use the one off the old engine , you'll need to remove the oil pan to acess the two inner bolts that screw in through the front main from _inside_ the engine There used to be a writup on how to convert the front mount plate to external bolts . -Nate Jonas wrote: Again I apologize for repeating myself! I replaced the block on my 235 in my 59 3200 and now it is built up and ready to install. My mechanic says that the new block is not drilled the same way as the old block and he cannot use the same mounting plate in the front. He thinks the new block is meant to mount in the center, According to the pictures I took before I removed the old engine (before I got my new job and had to hire someone to finish the truck) the old block mounts attached on either side just behind the timing cover. Is it possible that we got a block that is not compatible with the cross member on my 59? Anybody have a clue? I got one nice reply so far which made me want to go back and re-examine the new block, which I will do next week. But I am still hoping someone knows about these blocks and can clear it up right away Thanks again so much __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[old-chevy-truck] Fwd: Front Engine Mount matching problem
Sorry to post twice, butI forgot to mention this is a 235 full pressure engine! See below: Greetings! Recently I purchased a rebuilt short block for my 1959 Chevy 3200. It is now all built up and ready to go in... looking very pretty and clean enough to eat off.. My mechanic was about to install the engine today and could not because the block did not have holes drilled in the right places for the front motor mounts which are correct for the truck, on either side of the cross-member.It looks as if the block is intended to match up with a center mount, and my mechanic guessed that maybe the block is a passenger car block. Does this predicament sound familiar? Is there an adapter I can purchase which will cradle the engine and allow the mechanic to install this block? Or do I need to change the cross-member? I can't bear the idea that I might just be OUT OF LUCK Help! Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] cool Luke woody
COOL HAND LUKE. Hugely influential film for guys my age. On Apr 11, 2007, at 12:00 AM, winchester54947 wrote: I saw the final sequence of the 1967 Paul Newman movie and after he is shot he's loaded into the back door of the prison warden's vehicle I want one too. The red Chevy has the hood, emblem, grill, front fenders and headlites of the 48-54 trucks, but looks like a 4 door station wagon, not a Suburban? Is this the infamous Sedan Delivery?. What's the chance of finding one or is this a one of a kind Hollywood creation with gleaming polished wood sides? I think what we have here is a failure to communicate. Larry [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] triplicate
Me too Me too Me too ; ) On Mar 29, 2007, at 6:43 AM, Antonio Tijerino wrote: You are not the only and this is not the only group, I think there is a problem with yahoo groups, because I am getting the same with two other yahoo groups. Antonio _ From: Duane Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 11:25 PM To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [old-chevy-truck] triplicate MODERATOR, Why, when I receive a message, do I get three copies of the message? dalton - Original Message - From: Jones, Allen To: old-chevy-truck@ mailto:old-chevy-truck%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 12:50 PM Subject: [old-chevy-truck] MODERATOR Message Members, There was a derelict message posted to the group board earlier today and it has been summarily deleted and the person summarily kicked off the list. It accidentally slipped through. Thanks to Bob for pointing this out. Rob and I work diligently in preapproving members prior to joining the group and actively monitor the messages to avoid, if not eliminate, spam, derelict messages, etc. If you find any of these, please let one of us know so we can address the problem. There is no need to notify us of **POSSIBLE SPAM** messages from yahoo as we already get those as well. This might be a good time to remind members of our charter as shown on the home page: Dedicated to the preservation and restoration of stock 1941-1959 Chevy and GMC trucks. KEEP IT STOCK! The list is run by a conservative ex-military type who has children and friends serving their country, so nothing anti-war or unpatriotic will be tolerated. If you can't accept that, this is the wrong list for you. Thanks, Allen in SD Moderator '50 3100 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] 1951 chev pu
Have you changed out the fuel filter? Or filters? On Mar 23, 2007, at 10:13 PM, johnmsaksa wrote: I have a 1951 chev pu. it has a 235 engine. my question is, when the truck has been driven 15 to 20 min, its starts to jerk at cruising speed, like it is missing or running out of gas. does any one know what this might be. thanks, John [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[old-chevy-truck] Clutch Fork 1959/235
Anybody have a tip on how to get a nice NOS (or rebuilt? or excellent used?) CLUTCH FORK for a 1959 3200 235 3-spd column shift? Thanks so much in advance! jonas Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Clutch Fork 1959/235
what a great idea. doing it RIGHT NOW thanks On Mar 22, 2007, at 11:47 AM, Bill wrote: Have you tried eBay. seach using Chevy clutch fork. Also try expanding the search to include eBay Stores; they'll appear at the bottom of the search page after the normal results. ...bill === --- In old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com, Jonas Thaler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody have a tip on how to get a nice NOS (or rebuilt? or excellent used?) CLUTCH FORK for a 1959 3200 235 3-spd column shift? Thanks so much in advance! jonas [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[old-chevy-truck] Re: [oletrucks] Need bed trim for 59 GMC Wide Side
Greetings.. I am casually seeking some fancy trim for my 1959 3200 (I think it is!) long bed Fleetside Apache 1/2 ton pickup. I am referring to dual side trim (stainless I assume) which ends at an extended sort of wraparound tail light bezel which has some oblong slots in it. These slots frame some red plastic which is either a side reflector or an extension of red light coming from the tail light lens. I have only seen these in pictures. In addition to framing the conatrasting tone area on the side with shiny metal accent lines, they appear to be an upgrade to the regular circular taill light bezels. That was not easy to describe! Anybody know anything about these and anybody have a decent set that I could add to my truck? Just a whim, but then the whole truck is just a whim so why stop adding love to it? =-=-=jonas Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: 235 - complete
A while ago a guy offered me a 261 engine -- I am pasting in his email from October 16. He might still have it.I think it was on Craig's List. ==jonas From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Chevy 235 6 cylinder - $800 Date: October 16, 2006 4:36:18 PM PDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It sounds like you have it right. The way you will learn more about this is by doing what you are doing. Inline sixes are extremely good motors and while they don't put out the high RPM horses that a v-8 does they do everything else better. They produce more torque at lower rpms, they run quieter, cooler and get better mileage, they are perfect truck motors and will run as smooth as a sewing machine or can be hopped up for more performance. The v-8 was adopted because they are less expensive to manufacture. A short block refers to the block and everything in it, minus the head. Block, pistons, rods, crank, bearings, cam, oil pump etc. I don't know if he meant a built shortblock or a rebuildable core, if he's thinking of building a motor for you then he probably means a core. I would want $600 for my 261 + $150 if you wanted the rods. They are beefier than the 235 rods. A well built 235 will last 150,000 miles Ray http://community.webtv.net/RAYVARELLA/WelcometoVarellas On Jan 10, 2007, at 6:32 AM, vwnate1 wrote: Jim ; You didn't mention the price (if any) ? . Didja go _LOOK_ at it ? once in a while it'll turn out to be a 261 I might be in O.C. friday and I sure do want a 261... THANX ! . -Nate Jim wrote: The shop that did the work on my truck has a complete 235 that they would like to get rid of. They say it ran when it was pulled. They know I am into this old stock iron and asked me to help find it a good home. If you need a good 235 give them a call and make them an offer. Aut Tek Orange, CA (714) 685-0801 Ask for Tom. Tell him you were referred by Jim Karras on the old-chevy-truck Yahoo! Groups List. Jim Karras Orange, CA '59 Chevrolet Apache 32 Stepside Pickup E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://www.59apache.com/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: V8 in a 1951 Truck
Deve, I agree with you about hot rods, but I also like eating fish eggs. And accordion music. So I guess we all live in glass houses. I remind myself how much these guys (and gals too) love these hot rods. It is a cultural fact that hot rodding and customizing cars in general are American art forms which long ago transcended their original transportation context. I grew up building plastic models of Ed Big Daddy Roth's Rat Fink et al (and we would frequently enjoy exploding them with cherry bombs) and inventing my own wild*ss death-machines out of spare parts. Mr Roth's machines are now displayed in high-end galleries from time to time and owned by museums. Not CAR museums, but ART museums. My favorite memories (from New Mexico) are my nursery school teacher picking us up in her Model A and my father borrowing his friend's 37 Chevy pickup to go steal sand from the desert for our new sand box. And moving to Ohio (to a five year old Ohio, Iowa and Idaho are the same place!) and counting the Impalas and DeSotos and Oldsmobiles (which looked like they were crying) -- and the wonderful hard worming trucks with smiles on their faces. The stock trucks had enough color and fantasy built into them already for a five year old, and for a fifty-year old it remains just as powerful. jt On Jan 1, 2007, at 8:08 AM, Deve wrote: I am one weird cookie because personally, I don't care if GOD bought it, its sacriledge to hack up one of these trucks, cut the frame, move the steering gearbox, etc, etc to put a power plant in the truck that changes the weight and balance characteristics, makes the brake system less efficient, changes the wear and tear characteristics of the rest of the parts in the drivetrain, and basically trashes a once beautiful piece of our heritage. I say the same thing every time I see a vintage ford car that someone made into a rod. Make no mistake, its MY problem, but its noteworthy for people who are on the edge, deciding, do I keep it basically original, or do I make a hotrod out of it to know that there are people in this world that CRINGE everytime they see a hotrod that could have been a classic. Deve www.speedprint.com/Deves50 -Original Message- From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of vwnate1 Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 12:58 PM To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Re: V8 in a 1951 Truck [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] AD CUP HOLDER
i like the duct tape idea. No modifications to the truck necessary. And in an emergency, you always have that useful tape at hand... On Dec 28, 2006, at 11:49 AM, Daron Nettles wrote: Growing up the only time my Parents and grand parents drank coffee while driving, My mom or grandmother would pour just an inch out of the thermos into the cap. The only thing close to a cup holder is the glovebox door. Why dont we take an old magnet out of a speaker and attach it to a cheap cup holder and just use the glovebox door? No holes to drill, not too far to reach, removable... Lets see who can make the best lookin one. Daron Larry R. Kephart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is one neat idea, Charlie! Thanks! -Original Message- From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tikuayla Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 2:11 PM To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Subject: [old-chevy-truck] AD CUP HOLDER Hi Ever'body, Nate n Larry, I picked up an older version swiveling drink holder at a boating swap meet a few years back that has a double swivel. I made an attachment for the cup holder that I bolted to one of the holes on the bottom of my dash that I secure with a thumb screw so I can loosen it and rotate the cup holder back under the dash almost outa sight. My cup holder sits about 2 inches from the dash and about 1 inch below the dash, in between where my gear shift hits granny first and third on my four speed. It is chrome and looks sorta 50's period in its design. You can buy new swivel cup holders at most boat supply places. I'll bet Nate and Larry could pop one of these out in a few minutes, especially Larry K, being so close to all of those boating shops in FL. When I don't use it for a cup holder, I put my cell phone in it. Charlie in cool AZ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: crooks
This (below) is good advice. And Herb, you are doing this to protect your personal property, not to hurt anyone else or even to seek revenge. This mechanic is exhibiting narcissistic and irrational behavior sadly not uncommon in the automotive repair world. The sooner you remove yourself and your truck from his influence, the happier and wealthier you will be. There will be a cost to this, but it will be money and time well spent. It will really test how much you love old trucks! By the way I love the idea of putting the stuff in your own storage and clearing your head before you tackle the job yourself... My rant: I have never understood why service crafts attract people who are marginal in their ability to focus mentally, organize their time , assess job size and complete tasks. But if you have ever remodeled your house and don't have a good contractor or know your own pool of labor, you may be opening your home up to a parade of drinkers, gamblers and borderline losers. It is the same with auto repairers... Many of them are talented but for one reason or another are damaged goods. But I guess this is why successful people are often simply people who are fortunate enough to be mentally healthy and understand hard work and its rewards. You can learn a trade in a few years, but you either have a basic work ethic or you don't. I think the same can be said for honesty in business. You either have the gene which makes you feel horrible when you know you are cheating somebody, or you don't. Happy Holidays from one amateur psychologist and lover of old machines. jt On Dec 23, 2006, at 10:12 AM, littlebuddytoo wrote: Hello Herb, I also feel for you and your problem. Your mechanic feels very comfortable at this point,taking complete advantage of your good nature and patience. This person could now be leveled criminally through your local law enforcement agency. Don't even bother with the Better Business Bureau at this point as it will be another 10 months before they even read your case. This person has committed theft by keeping your personal property hostage long past any reasonable time element acceptable for the job to be completed. He has committed larceny by taking your money and not performing agreed upon service and has also committed a breach of contract. Just the act of disassembling your truck and letting it sit without repair is akin to distruction of your personal property. I could think of other violations if I had more information on your situation. I would sincerely contact a Police agency for advice and support. littlebuddie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Engine Identification
You may find that the rattle can approach will cost you a lot more than a modest paint job at a body shop. These trucks present a pretty big surface area and one spray can probably only covers a small area. And they may or not be batch controlled. And I think they are extremely unfriendly to the environment. And you run the risk of developing an RSI (Repetitive Stress Injury) in the joints of your fingers trying to keep that little button pressed down for hours and hours. Orthopedic surgeons specializing in the hand charge more than Maaco or even Earl Scheib! And those little plastic nozzles clog up like crazy! That was fun Got anything else you want an unsolicited opinion on? jt On Nov 12, 2006, at 12:33 PM, REM Wilson WY wrote: Nate, almost anything will outlast me! I admire the members that are doing a full restore of their trucks. I am only trying to do a rebuild. The only thing that will not be stock will be 12 volt. I even decided to use the original split rims. In the end it will be a farm truck with a rattle can paint job. I will check the fittings and see what size they are. What puzzles me is the guys seem to indicate all blocks have a cast number and I can't find one. I could find one on my 1950 but not on the 1952. The block is clean so it is not covered with gunk. I forgot to mention that the oil breather pipe has a rubber line that connects to the air cleaner if this will help. In a message dated 11/12/06 12:37:26 Mountain Standard Time,[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well ; It has a 261 low compression cylinder head on it so you're either got a 261 or a 235 with a 261 head on it . either way , you've got a good engine that'll outlast you if you take care of it . If the oil gauge and filter fitting on the left side of the cylinder block are 3/4 (may have brass bushings to bring them down to 1/8) , you've likely got a 261 on your hands . Do you need the tune up specs and etc. ? they're all listed right here in the archives if you do the search . Sounds to me like you've worked hard to save ' just another old truck ' back to a cool vintage vehicle that's not only fun to drive but ready to work , too ! . -Nate Bob wrote: I need some help with my engine Identification. I have been working for over two years on my 1952 3600/5W, working from the back bumper to the front. Removed Ford rear axle, replaced broken front springs, new shocks and complete new brakes and lines. (feel it is more important to stop than to go). Rebuilt the bed and milled new floor boards. I have finally arrived at the engine. My truck has turned out to be a Heinz 57 varieties. Here is all the information I can get from the head and block. All is painted red. The head has 3836850 and GM4 cast into the top by and on the carburetor side. On the plug side at the top over the 3rd plug from the front is cast B35 8 8. The valve cover is held down by 4 screws and the oil filler cap is at the front rather than at the center. The block has C O N 4 124 cast above and somewhat hidden behind the starter. In front of the starter and just behind the distributor there is stamped on a flat that sticks out at a 45 degree angle 0 I 0 3 3 I 8 F 5 5 U. The ones are really the letter I but I believe this was normal for GM to do. Cast at the front of the block is GM with 12 above it. The side plate appears to be 5 to 6 inches tall. I have not had any luck finding this engine listed. Could it be a car engine? Bob Moore 1952 3604/5W 1950 3609/3W [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: 235 Block
Thanks for the vivid picture of the re-bored cylinder(s) failing! I have found several blocks and a whole engine or two, just not sure how to evaluate them. It wold be nice not to inherit the same problems again --or new ones. I will ask the machine shop about the measurements. I am backing off from the 261 idea because I am neither rich nor dedicated and everyone tells me what a fine engine the 235 is. Thanks so much for this advice.===jt On Oct 23, 2006, at 6:32 AM, vwnate1 wrote: _DON'T_ bore over .030 ! it'll run way too hot and may well drop a cylinder wall right when you least need that . Good used 235's are plentiful and cheap . I know a lister here who may have a line on a used 235 or two right here in Sunny So. Cal. Riverside County . I imagine he'll ping you off list if they're available . If you're rich or dedicated , the 261 is a bolt in -but- you need the entire short block with the 261 rods else I'd not pay much for it you can use your old 235 head without drilling the steam holes if you've never overheated before... Stem holes are nice though , be sure you can find a 261 head gasket before you drill those holes ! . SOME (not all !) 261's are set up for full flow oil filters (3/4 holes in the block) so nake sure and if it has the 3/4 oil holes get the oil filter ! . What is wrong with your old block ? scored cylinders or just too much taper ? how much taper ?(note : ' a lot ' is a B.S. answer and means your machine shop isn't any good) Good luck hunting and keep us posted . -Nate Jonas wrote: Greetings~ I might need a good rebuildable 235 block for my 1959 3200 if anyone has a nice juicy one, My engine is in pieces now at a really reputable racing engine shop in my area. The machine shop says they MIGHT not be able to find oversize pistons because the cylinders will have to be bored out to a larger size than is commonly available (I want to say .70 but I can't remember for sure...) And sleeving the six cylinders back to factory size is supposed to be expensive. By now you can see that I am new at this... I have been offered a rebuildable 261 block but am a bit nervous about the interchangability. I don't want to bite off any bigger jobs than I already have. (Not that I don't enjoy this stuff, but I have a busy job and travel a lot and spare time is elusive!) But the extra power of the 261 sounds very tempting. The owner of the engine says everything is the same except a steam hole that has to be drilled in the block to match the head or vice versa. Sigh. I love my truck and it's my third one (64 Chevy 1/2 ton hippie truck I had in college onto which I built a really impressive redwood camper, and another college conveyance, a massive 3/4 ton 50 GMC in which the brakes needed pumping up all the time and one day the pedal got stuck in the floor boards and the truck jumped the curb on campus at lunch hour and knocked over a mailbox, finally easing to a stop. Nobody was hurt, there wasn't a scratch on the truck, and I got out of there in a hurry because I did not have any money and, well it was a long time ago and I am still ashamed of it! Anyone with a good block for me in the Southern California area or willing to ship one for the right price, please contact me. I want to be ready for the bad news Monday when I call the machine shop. Thanks jt [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[old-chevy-truck] 235 Block
Greetings~ I might need a good rebuildable 235 block for my 1959 3200 if anyone has a nice juicy one, My engine is in pieces now at a really reputable racing engine shop in my area. The machine shop says they MIGHT not be able to find oversize pistons because the cylinders will have to be bored out to a larger size than is commonly available (I want to say .70 but I can't remember for sure...) And sleeving the six cylinders back to factory size is supposed to be expensive. By now you can see that I am new at this... I have been offered a rebuildable 261 block but am a bit nervous about the interchangability. I don't want to bite off any bigger jobs than I already have. (Not that I don't enjoy this stuff, but I have a busy job and travel a lot and spare time is elusive!) But the extra power of the 261 sounds very tempting. The owner of the engine says everything is the same except a steam hole that has to be drilled in the block to match the head or vice versa. Sigh. I love my truck and it's my third one (64 Chevy 1/2 ton hippie truck I had in college onto which I built a really impressive redwood camper, and another college conveyance, a massive 3/4 ton 50 GMC in which the brakes needed pumping up all the time and one day the pedal got stuck in the floor boards and the truck jumped the curb on campus at lunch hour and knocked over a mailbox, finally easing to a stop. Nobody was hurt, there wasn't a scratch on the truck, and I got out of there in a hurry because I did not have any money and, well it was a long time ago and I am still ashamed of it! Anyone with a good block for me in the Southern California area or willing to ship one for the right price, please contact me. I want to be ready for the bad news Monday when I call the machine shop. Thanks jt Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: 235 Block
Thanks! jonas On Oct 22, 2006, at 5:29 AM, Bill wrote: You might look thru the Links option at the top left of web site page. Many suppliers have a web site which might give prices for a rebuilt engine. Or they offer catalogs, some for $5, which list what they have to offer. There are pitfalls to be avoided with the older engines, and getting a short block is a way around these. For example, Jim Carter Classic Truck Parts has a short block for $1385. == --- In old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com, Jonas Thaler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings~ I might need a good rebuildable 235 block for my 1959 3200 if anyone has a nice juicy one, My engine is in pieces now at a really reputable racing engine shop in my area. The machine shop says they MIGHT not be able to find oversize pistons because the cylinders will have to be bored out to a larger size than is commonly available (I want to say .70 but I can't remember for sure...) And sleeving the six cylinders back to factory size is supposed to be expensive. By now you can see that I am new at this... I have been offered a rebuildable 261 block but am a bit nervous about the interchangability. I don't want to bite off any bigger jobs than I already have. (Not that I don't enjoy this stuff, but I have a busy job and travel a lot and spare time is elusive!) But the extra power of the 261 sounds very tempting. The owner of the engine says everything is the same except a steam hole that has to be drilled in the block to match the head or vice versa. Sigh. I love my truck and it's my third one (64 Chevy 1/2 ton hippie truck I had in college onto which I built a really impressive redwood camper, and another college conveyance, a massive 3/4 ton 50 GMC in which the brakes needed pumping up all the time and one day the pedal got stuck in the floor boards and the truck jumped the curb on campus at lunch hour and knocked over a mailbox, finally easing to a stop. Nobody was hurt, there wasn't a scratch on the truck, and I got out of there in a hurry because I did not have any money and, well it was a long time ago and I am still ashamed of it! Anyone with a good block for me in the Southern California area or willing to ship one for the right price, please contact me. I want to be ready for the bad news Monday when I call the machine shop. Thanks jt [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Gas Tank Restoration
Not to mention name brands but what about Coca-Cola? (Half joking...) On Sep 9, 2006, at 7:48 AM, vwnate1 wrote: Acetone is the stuff to use , as much as he can afford and have him toss in a BIG handfull of _clean_ sheet metal screws , nuts washers to help scrape off the crud in the corners faster easier as he shakes the bejeebers out of it ~ this is the hard part , takes lots and lots of shaking and turning the tank as there will be sludge varnish in the botton and rusty crud in the top , all of it must be scraped and then drained out , I like to strain through a BIG funnel lined with felt scraps so I can not only re-cover my hardware but this also allows you to re-use the liquid medium a couple times to help rinse the tank . Then pour in a gallon or two of Phosphoric Acid and slosh that all around to dissolve the remaining rust . DO NOT use Muriatic Acid ! (swimming pool) this eats the good metal , Phosphoric Acid cannot damage good metal . Good luck with the J-D , we had a '35 Model A and a '37 Model B John Deer tractors on the farm when I was a laddie , good tractors if a bit slow . This is a very freindly group so post your name at the end of each post to garner better more replies . -Nate mciolli wrote: Hello all. I've a question for the group regarding removing the varnish sediment left behind in an old gas tank. The tank in question is off of a '65 John Deere, but I'm guessing some of those here have encountered this. I went thru the archives and found some references to restoring tanks, but none that I found recommended what type of solvent to use to remove the varnish. My friend that's restoring the tractor had some success with Gum Cutter (Acetone, Toluene, Xylene carb cleaner), but the quantity required would cost way too much. He dumped a quart of Acetone in the tank and said it seemed to cut it, but he's not sure if this is the best and/or most readily available solvent to use. One of the archived posts suggested taking the tank to a radiator repair shop and having it boiled, but he's trying to clean it on his own if it doesn't cost a bundle. Since a repop tank isn't available he's limited to cleaning/reusing the tank he has. Any suggestions the group has would be greatly appreciated. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
