[osol-discuss] boot warning
I recently received the following boot complain after upgrade my system. I'm using the following revision of source [EMAIL PROTECTED] tip changeset: 4732:4edaffb4494b tag: tip user:davemq date:Wed Jul 25 18:20:14 2007 -0700 summary: 6501667 ncp/n2cp drivers should not assume a static number of crypto units WARNING: /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/[EMAIL PROTECTED],2/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (ata2): timeout: abort request, target=0 lun=0 WARNING: /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/[EMAIL PROTECTED],2/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (ata2): timeout: abort device, target=0 lun=0 WARNING: /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/[EMAIL PROTECTED],2/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (ata2): timeout: reset target, target=0 lun=0 WARNING: /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/[EMAIL PROTECTED],2/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (ata2): timeout: reset bus, target=0 lun=0 WARNING: /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/[EMAIL PROTECTED],2/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (ata2): timeout: early timeout, target=0 lun=0 WARNING: /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/[EMAIL PROTECTED],2/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0 (Disk0): Error for command 'read sector' Error Level: Informational Sense Key: aborted command Vendor 'Gen-ATA ' error code: 0x3 WARNING: /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/[EMAIL PROTECTED],2/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0 (Disk0): Error for command 'read sector' Error Level: Informational vn_rdwr failed with error 0x5 Sense Key: aborted command kobj_load_module: hci1394 read header failed Vendor 'Gen-ATA ' error code: 0x3 Any comments or suggestions? Thanks, -Aubrey Intel Open Solaris Team. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?
Well, I certainly can not pay what your work is worth, thats for sure. Say it takes you 2-3 hours to figure this out. That would be some serious money (for me as a private person). A company would have no problems to pay you what your time is worth, though. Maybe it is better to drop Solaris instead and go back to Windows and Linux. Everyone say Solaris is good but is not for the common people and maybe there is a good reason for that. If it takes this much effort to get just a simple program running, I fear what it would crave when there arises serious problems. For instance, when I try to get VLC player running, _no one_ has ever succeeded to compile it for Solaris. That... sounds scary. To get a simple film viewer running craves hours of research into unknown territory? Ok, if I tried to do some FEM computations or high tech stuff, but this is plain vanilla operating environment. How is Sun going to conquer the desktop instead of Linux if the basic programs are not availab le, without doing research stuff no one has ever done before? And my Linux friends are bashing me for trying out Solaris. Maybe they are right? Maybe I was dumb to try out Solaris? I mean, Linux should do, at least for those needs an ordinary user have? How many needs Enterprise functions as in Solaris, and besides, Ive heard that Linux catches up quick. Or maybe switch to FreeBSD instead? The effort I am pouring into vanilla Solaris setup is scary though. I fear that soon there will be another Solaris basher, that strongly recommends against Solaris, for everyone willing to hear, in the world. "Ive tried Solaris each day for two weeks, and to get a plain environment up and running, craves research where no one has gone before. I have first hand experience of this, I know what I am talking about. And I have a M Sc in Math, and another M Sc in Comp Science, I am not that stupid." Well, I am not completely ready to give up Solaris yet though. This is my vacation, and I can afford spending the time to get Solaris set up, with the programs a Linux/windows switcher needs at minimum. Anyway, I would appreciate help, and think that the Solaris community as a whole would benefit from a Wine package at Blastwave? Without Blastwave, switching to Solaris would not been feasible. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?
Orvar Korvar wrote: > For instance, when I try to get VLC player running, _no one_ has ever > succeeded to compile it for Solaris. That... sounds scary. VLC builds and runs on Solaris Express using pkgbuild. The only problem is that playing mp4 files seg-faults at the moment. All other formats seem to play ok. Doug ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [Fwd: [Fwd: Nightlybuild - Powermanagement issues]]
Aubrey Li wrote: > On 7/26/07, Aubrey Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 7/26/07, Kaiwai Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On 26/07/07, Aubrey Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On 7/26/07, Mark Haywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First of all, if I'm reading your messages correctly, you've got two > drivers trying to perform CPU power management at the same time? You > should probably remove or disable to frkit powernow driver. I think you > might as well remove it as I believe it only supports single processor > systems and you have two processors. I got the similar error on my side, # dmesg | grep PSS Jul 26 02:31:12 aubrey-nevada cpudrv: [ID 684953 kern.notice] NOTICE: cpu_acpi: _PSS package not found. Jul 26 02:31:12 aubrey-nevada cpudrv: [ID 616227 kern.warning] WARNING: cpu_acpi: error parsing _PSS for CPU instance 1 Jul 26 02:31:19 aubrey-nevada cpudrv: [ID 684953 kern.notice] NOTICE: cpu_acpi: _PSS package not found. Jul 26 02:31:19 aubrey-nevada cpudrv: [ID 616227 kern.warning] WARNING: cpu_acpi: error parsing _PSS for CPU instance 0 Jul 26 02:31:19 aubrey-nevada cpudrv: [ID 684953 kern.notice] NOTICE: cpu_acpi: _PSS package not found. Jul 26 02:31:19 aubrey-nevada cpudrv: [ID 616227 kern.warning] WARNING: cpu_acpi: error parsing _PSS for CPU instance 1 Jul 26 02:31:25 aubrey-nevada cpudrv: [ID 684953 kern.notice] NOTICE: cpu_acpi: _PSS package not found. Jul 26 02:31:25 aubrey-nevada cpudrv: [ID 616227 kern.warning] WARNING: cpu_acpi: error parsing _PSS for CPU instance 0 Jul 26 02:31:25 aubrey-nevada cpudrv: [ID 684953 kern.notice] NOTICE: cpu_acpi: _PSS package not found. Jul 26 02:31:25 aubrey-nevada cpudrv: [ID 616227 kern.warning] WARNING: cpu_acpi: error parsing _PSS for CPU instance 1 > Both drivers seemed to be having issues with the ACPI _PSS object. > Usually when I see problems like this it is due to one of two things. > > 1 - Enhanced SpeedStep has not been enabled in the BIOS setup. The problem is my default ACPI Version Features is ACPI V1.0 in the BIOS. When change it to ACPI V3.0, the warning is gone. >>> Is it possible to change it in in HP gear? or is it ACPI v1.0 by default? >> I don't think so. _PSS object is added in ACPI V3.0B, which is >> released on October 10, 2006. From your acpi info, it's not supported. >> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> cat /proc/acpi/info >>> version: 20060127 > > Oops, _PSS objects should be added in from ACPI V2.0a. So definitely > the ACPI implementation on your machine is V1.0. I assume your BIOS > returns valid _PSS objects. Yes. I _PSS was added long before 3.a. As to whether or not the _PSS are valid or why we are having trouble digesting them, I can't say unless I can see a dump of them. Is is possible for you to do that? > 2 - The BIOS is not returning valid _PSS objects. > > The first is easy to check for. > > The second usually requires dumping the ACPI tables with a utility like > iasl and then inspecting the output to see what the _PSS definitions > look like. Unfortunately, you need to know something about what they are > supposed to look like in order to tell what, if anything, is wrong with > them. > > What kind of system do you have? > The warning probably remains if Matthew's system is a bit old. >>> >>> Well, its around 3 months old but has the latest BIOS update (F.27) from HP. >> You just lose one functionality(Processor Performance State) of power >> management, I believe both SLED 10 SP1 and Windows Vista are not >> support this feature yet. Anyway, >> your system can still run happily. >> >> -Aubrey >> Intel OpenSolaris Team. >> ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)
> The fundamental difference though is that you aren't doing an install of > something like the latest full Fedora distribution and expecting to > se it as a desktop with all the latest eye candy. Yup, you are right. Mostly there are tiny distros for these kinds of machines. > I agree with you Gueven that we must make OpenSolaris > a realistic choice for these kinds of devices, however that doesn't mean > that Indiana is the distribution to do it with. Excuse me Darren, I answered in the -discuss forum to xlucas' posting. Somehow it is also posted to the Indiana forum it seems. I know that Indiana is not and will not be the OpSol distro for Soekris HW :-) > Further discussion of this topic is redirected to appliances discuss, > which is the @opensolaris.org alias best suited to it. This thread is somehow messed up (posted to various forums) :-( This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?
John Brewer writes: > I downloaded gcc (GCC) 3.4.6, Why? Gcc comes with Solaris, and works. > gnu bin tools , freetype-2.3.5 and fontforge_full-20070723 configure and > compiled ok, however wine-0.9.41 compiled with this error: > ="" -D_REENTRANT -fPIC -Wall -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing > -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wwrite-strings -Wpointer-arith -g -O2 -o > port.o port.c > Assembler: port.c > "", line 20 : Illegal character: <7e> > "", line 20 : Syntax error > Near line: "andl $~15,%esp" This looks like: http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-bugs/2006-01/msg03520.html It looks like newer versions of gcc don't generate correct assembly code for native assemblers. -- James Carlson, Solaris Networking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sun Microsystems / 1 Network Drive 71.232W Vox +1 781 442 2084 MS UBUR02-212 / Burlington MA 01803-2757 42.496N Fax +1 781 442 1677 ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] How to change IP address on Solaris 10
This should clear it up. http://www.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/Change_IP_Address_HOWTO On 7/25/07, Shafayet Hossain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Solaris 10 now checks the /etc/inet/ipnodes file first before the /etc/hosts file to set the IP. So, you will have to change it there as well. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Updating packages that are not in ON updates
Jonathan Groll writes: > The above comment seems to imply that there is a non-BFU way to do > upgrades. Is that so? Yes. > (Perhaps sun online update? For which I assume I > need a subscription?). No subscription required. > I've tried googling and read all the docs I can find, do I have it > correct then that these are the alternatives: > > (1) Update ON only (via BFU) and slowly watch the rest of the system get > out of date, applying adhoc consolidation updates when things get bad > (2) Regularly download full CD/DVD sets and upgrade the whole system > (3) Sun online update? (2) is correct. However, you can simplify this _greatly_ by using Live Upgrade. Just download the DVD, use lofiadm to mount it up, and then use Live Upgrade to upgrade the system. It requires zero downtime to do the upgrade itself, and only a reboot when you're ready to switch over to the new version. > Is there perhaps some sort of automated approach that I may have missed > that could possibly be used to keep the non-ON parts of the system > up-to-date, eg. scripts that will 'mass get' all the missing > consolidations and build them? There's an application that simplifies the use of LU for those who don't want to learn the command line utilities. Use this tool on the distribution medium: Solaris_11/Tools/Installers/liveupgrade20 -- James Carlson, Solaris Networking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sun Microsystems / 1 Network Drive 71.232W Vox +1 781 442 2084 MS UBUR02-212 / Burlington MA 01803-2757 42.496N Fax +1 781 442 1677 ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] How to obtain an IP address automatically
James Carlson wrote: > Gerard Nualla writes: >> How do i setup opensolaris to obtain an ip address automatically? I am >> getting my ip address from a dhcp server. > > The easiest way is to do a Solaris Express Developer Edition install. > It does that automatically by default. > > The next easiest way is to specify that you want to use DHCP when > asked during a regular install. > > The next possible way is to use "sys-unconfig" to return the system > back to the just-installed state, and answer the questions it asks on > reboot. > > Finally, for the hard way, you can do something like this: > > # echo > /etc/hostname.XXX > # touch /etc/dhcp.XXX > > ... replacing "XXX" with the name of the Ethernet interface of > interest. If the problem is that you don't know the name of the > Ethernet interface, then try doing "ifconfig -a plumb ; ifconfig -a". Of if you have build 62 or later, won't this work? % svcadm disable svc:/network/physical:default % svcadm enable svc:/network/physical:nwam The nwamd(1M) man page explains how to check if you have the nwamd daemon. It's online too: http://opensolaris.org/os/project/nwam/phase0/nwamd_1m/ Haik ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] 2048 core support in opensolaris?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/26/sun_2048_thread_niagara/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Rant: We do not support solaris
> > I have a different take on this. > > Recently I found my social status elevated quite a > bit, & I realized that this has a lot to do with the > fact that I am running Solaris as my primary desktop. > I can definitely sense the attention (& > envy/respect) whenever I brought up this little side > event. > > Of course, this has nothing to do with me; all > credits go to Sun's (& those related therewith) > developers who have made this possible. But the > general public don't know this--yet, & I am enjoying > this fame as long as it lasts--probably not for too > long though. :-) Hmmm. I have been looked upon as a non-conformist to be shunned by the point and clickers. most of which never heard of Solaris and if you mention it they say "Linux?" Yea right pal! Go back to sleep. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?
Hey guys, I am sorry that I yelled a bit. I was in a bad mood and I shouldnt have done that. It was stupid of me. Please accept my apologizes! I have got a very nice answer from DOUG SCOTT at http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=35866&tstart=0 that almost seems to work. I will dig into it and try again. And PHALAN, I will try your instructions too. Now I have really good hope to get Wine going with two instructions sets up to date. I am active at several user forums, and I will post your instructions there. At the forums, there are several questions on Wine and Solaris, all answered negative. The thing is, I am in love with Solaris and I really want to use it. I am tired of changing OS every now and then; C64, Amiga, MS-DOS, Windows 3.11, W95, Win NT, Win XP, Linux, and now what? Everyone had flaws. If I had invested all that time into Unix I would have become an expert now. Solaris is not flawless, but in my opinion it is the best Unix out there. I intend to devote all my time to Solaris from now on. No more switching OS. In my opionion, Blastwave and the likes, should be high on Sun's priority list. It seems that to compile a program under Solaris takes years of experience. Sun and you all guys are doing a terrific job with Solaris, and I and many more really appreciate what you do. Btw, Linux sucks! :o) I dont like Linus and as Stallman said: "well, Im not the one who wants to call GNU for Stallmanix". It seems hodge-podge helter skelter. Not stable APIs and stuff. Thanx for your time reading my first steps into the Solaris world, on my way on becoming an expert!! ;o) BTW, how do I learn to compile things? Is there a book or something to learn this? I dont want to yell at people, I want to do it myself. Any tips? Any web sites? How? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Rant: We do not support solaris
On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 16:58 -0700, W. Wayne Liauh wrote: > > Hmmm. I have been looked upon as a non-conformist > > to be shunned by the point and clickers. > > ost of which never heard of Solaris and if you > > mention it they say "Linux?" Yea right pal! > > Go back to sleep. > > After having advocated Linux for more than a decade, I don't see any point of > discussing operating system(s) with the general public: Most of them don't > any choice, either because they are limited by the application programs they > are accustomed to running or are dictated by their job environment. Instead, > I have found it to be much more productive to talk to decision makers and/or > those privy to the decision making process. Compared to the general public, > this group of people are more willing to sift through the obvious things, and > have resources to improvise. Almost w/o exception, all of them have heard > about Solaris, and view it with great respect. I beg to differ - once setup for an end user, they're very happy - StarOffice does all what they want, all their hardware is supported, they can go to their favourite flash sites etc. etc. Yes, there are those who have a vast array of software that they 'need' (quotations added) but for the vast majority of people, they have a games machine for games thus leaving their laptop/desktop to write letters (StarOffice 8) surf for porn (Firefox) and balance their cheque book. Matthew ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] DTrace Graphical User Interface (GUI)
The purpose of this message is to announce the availability of the NetBeans plug-in module for DTrace. The NetBeans DTrace plug-in module is a Graphical User Interface (GUI) for running DTrace scripts. The DTrace plug-in module works with both Sun Studio 12 IDE and NetBeans IDE 5.5.1. Users are allowed to run D scripts from the GUI, even those that are embedded in shell scripts. In fact, the DTrace GUI runs the entire D scripts that are packaged in DTraceToolkit. The DTraceToolkit is a collection of useful documented scripts developed by the OpenSolaris DTrace community. You can download the "DTrace Graphical User Interface (GUI)" plug-in module from http://plugins.netbeans.org web site. Once the "dtrace-gui.zip" file is downloaded, use the the "unzip" utility to unzip the file and follow the instructions in the NetBeans_DTrace_plug-in_module.html file to install the DTrace plug-in into the Sun Studio 12 IDE or NetBeans IDE 5.5.1. The NetBeans_DTrace_plug-in_module.html file can be found in "dtrace-gui.zip" package. Thanks, __Nasser This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Rant: We do not support solaris
On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 11:45 -0700, W. Wayne Liauh wrote: > > What the vendor said next set me ablaze. > > > > "WE NEVER ADVERTISED THE SYSTEM WOULD WORK WITH > > SOLARIS" > > > > Pissed off! > > I have a different take on this. > > Recently I found my social status elevated quite a bit, & I realized that > this has a lot to do with the fact that I am running Solaris as my primary > desktop. I can definitely sense the attention (& envy/respect) whenever I > brought up this little side event. > > Of course, this has nothing to do with me; all credits go to Sun's (& those > related therewith) developers who have made this possible. But the general > public don't know this--yet, & I am enjoying this fame as long as it > lasts--probably not for too long though. :-) Sounds a bit like the 'Mac OS X' effect :-) I get the same looks - "ooh, what operating system are you running? its pretty cool!". My mum seems to he happy with her Solaris installation on an old AMD Duron 850mhz. Matthew ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Rant: We do not support solaris
> > Interesting for me as well, :) I was using DELL > > laptop to run Solaris happily. > > keyboard and NIC works properly. > > > > -Aubrey > > ___ > > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > > Yes but if you call dell support and tell them you are running solaris on the > box and you believe that there is a hardware problem they will start by > asking you to run windoz commands and will not even try to help you with the > problem. I have been there. It does not even have to be their computers. I > bought a dell LCD monitor and needed support when it froze up. They refused > to support me after I told them that the monitor was hooked up to a Solaris > host. "REFUSED". I had to call back and pretend I was running windo. 8b... Reminds me of an APC Mag article a while back about a laptop manufacturer who tried to claim that by the individual putting Linux on his laptop, it invalidated his warranty. The best thing at that point is to know the consumer protection laws back to front - having done that (for my own personal enjoyment) it brings alot of fun when talking to businesses who refuse to stick to the law. Matthew ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Rant: We do not support solaris
> Hmmm. I have been looked upon as a non-conformist > to be shunned by the point and clickers. > ost of which never heard of Solaris and if you > mention it they say "Linux?" Yea right pal! > Go back to sleep. After having advocated Linux for more than a decade, I don't see any point of discussing operating system(s) with the general public: Most of them don't any choice, either because they are limited by the application programs they are accustomed to running or are dictated by their job environment. Instead, I have found it to be much more productive to talk to decision makers and/or those privy to the decision making process. Compared to the general public, this group of people are more willing to sift through the obvious things, and have resources to improvise. Almost w/o exception, all of them have heard about Solaris, and view it with great respect. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] 2048 core support in opensolaris?
Brian Gupta wrote: > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/26/sun_2048_thread_niagara/ Sounds like they noticed that the NCPU macro was recently raised from 64 to 256 for sun4v systems. "Also of note, we've discovered that Sun's next version of Solaris has been tweaked to handle up to 256 cores with an option to stretch all the way to 2048 cores. (Sun seems to be interchanging cores and threads at this point.)" The NCPU value is meant to be set to be one higher than the largest CPU ID value on the system so that it can be used, for example, to size arrays which will be indexed by CPU ID. On a Niagara based system with 8 cores and 4 "threads" per core, you would have CPU IDs ranging from 0 - 31, so NCPU would have to be at least 32. If, for example, you wanted to create a static array of pointers to each cpu_t structure on the system, you could do "cpu_t *my_cpu_array[NCPU]" and then index the array by CPU ID. For simplicity's sake, there are many places in the kernel that use NCPU to define data structures, despite that is not the most space efficient way to go for systems with less CPU "threads" or "strands" than NCPU. So if they are referring to the NCPU value, it doesn't represent the number of cores that OpenSolaris supports. All of that is really a mute point anyway because the NCPU value is set in some sun4u platform Makefiles to values over 500. Haik ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Rant: We do not support solaris
> What the vendor said next set me ablaze. > > "WE NEVER ADVERTISED THE SYSTEM WOULD WORK WITH > SOLARIS" > > Pissed off! I have a different take on this. Recently I found my social status elevated quite a bit, & I realized that this has a lot to do with the fact that I am running Solaris as my primary desktop. I can definitely sense the attention (& envy/respect) whenever I brought up this little side event. Of course, this has nothing to do with me; all credits go to Sun's (& those related therewith) developers who have made this possible. But the general public don't know this--yet, & I am enjoying this fame as long as it lasts--probably not for too long though. :-) This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Rant: We do not support solaris
> On 7/26/07, Kaiwai Gardiner > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 05:34 -0700, Mike DeMarco > wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 05:10 -0700, Mike DeMarco > > > > wrote: > > > > > I need to rant a bit: > > > > > > > > > >I had ordered a new laptop and when it > arrived I > > > > installed OpenSolaris b68. I was having many > problems > > > > with the keyboard and the NIC on the box. The > NIC > > > > driver had plumbed the interface and brought it > up > > > > but I was unable to send any packets or > receive. I > > > > susspected that there may be something wrong > with the > > > > hardware but could not prove it. I had to > install > > > > windoz and when the problems migrated there as > well I > > > > called the vendor to report it as a hardware > problem. > > > > I told the vendor that the NIC was not working > > > > properly on Solaris or Windows. The vendor > started > > > > blaming the solaris install as the culprit and > that I > > > > should completely wipe the harddrive and just > install > > > > windoz. I did this out of discuss with the > ignorance > > > > of the world towards solaris. I formated the > whole > > > > harddrive > > > > > for windoz and installed XP. I was still > having the > > > > problems and called the vendor. telling them > that > > > > even if it had worked I did not buy this laptop > to > > > > run Windoz and it was totally useless to me in > this > > > > confiration. > > > > > > > > > > What the vendor said next set me ablaze. > > > > > > > > > > "WE NEVER ADVERTISED THE SYSTEM WOULD WORK > WITH > > > > SOLARIS" > > > > > > > > > > I hate this. Why does the world have to use > windoz? > > > > Why can we not buy a piece of hardware and put > what > > > > we want on it without being harassed by the > seller > > > > that it must have this software on it or we > will not > > > > honor our warranty? > > > > > > > > Pissed off! > > > > Just out of curiosity - what was the brand - > bit of a > > > > name and shame is > > > > in order. > > > > > > > > Matthew > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > > > > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > > > > > > I did not want to mention brands because I have > had this same problem with every computer that I have > bought. > > > > Interesting, Toshiba and this HP I'm running right > now have been the two > > best machines to run Solaris on. The only thing not > supported on this is > > my webcam - its UVC compliant but requires a > firmware to be uploaded > > which Solaris doesn't support. > > > > Matthew > > Interesting for me as well, :) I was using DELL > laptop to run Solaris happily. > keyboard and NIC works properly. > > -Aubrey > ___ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Yes but if you call dell support and tell them you are running solaris on the box and you believe that there is a hardware problem they will start by asking you to run windoz commands and will not even try to help you with the problem. I have been there. It does not even have to be their computers. I bought a dell LCD monitor and needed support when it froze up. They refused to support me after I told them that the monitor was hooked up to a Solaris host. "REFUSED". I had to call back and pretend I was running windo. 8b... This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] How to obtain an IP address automatically
Gerard Nualla writes: > How do i setup opensolaris to obtain an ip address automatically? I am > getting my ip address from a dhcp server. The easiest way is to do a Solaris Express Developer Edition install. It does that automatically by default. The next easiest way is to specify that you want to use DHCP when asked during a regular install. The next possible way is to use "sys-unconfig" to return the system back to the just-installed state, and answer the questions it asks on reboot. Finally, for the hard way, you can do something like this: # echo > /etc/hostname.XXX # touch /etc/dhcp.XXX ... replacing "XXX" with the name of the Ethernet interface of interest. If the problem is that you don't know the name of the Ethernet interface, then try doing "ifconfig -a plumb ; ifconfig -a". -- James Carlson, Solaris Networking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sun Microsystems / 1 Network Drive 71.232W Vox +1 781 442 2084 MS UBUR02-212 / Burlington MA 01803-2757 42.496N Fax +1 781 442 1677 ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Rant: We do not support solaris
Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: > I just hope that Sun pulls finger and supports the webcam firmware > uploading - if they do that it would support 5 models of camera in one > go. Why should it be Sun ? Why not *you* this is OpenSolaris after all. You want it bad enough contribute the code or work with someone that can. Don't assume that what Sun will or should do all the development work. See: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/webcams -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Rant: We do not support solaris
On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 21:23 +0800, Aubrey Li wrote: > On 7/26/07, Kaiwai Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 05:34 -0700, Mike DeMarco wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 05:10 -0700, Mike DeMarco > > > > wrote: > > > > > I need to rant a bit: > > > > > > > > > >I had ordered a new laptop and when it arrived I > > > > installed OpenSolaris b68. I was having many problems > > > > with the keyboard and the NIC on the box. The NIC > > > > driver had plumbed the interface and brought it up > > > > but I was unable to send any packets or receive. I > > > > susspected that there may be something wrong with the > > > > hardware but could not prove it. I had to install > > > > windoz and when the problems migrated there as well I > > > > called the vendor to report it as a hardware problem. > > > > I told the vendor that the NIC was not working > > > > properly on Solaris or Windows. The vendor started > > > > blaming the solaris install as the culprit and that I > > > > should completely wipe the harddrive and just install > > > > windoz. I did this out of discuss with the ignorance > > > > of the world towards solaris. I formated the whole > > > > harddrive > > > > > for windoz and installed XP. I was still having the > > > > problems and called the vendor. telling them that > > > > even if it had worked I did not buy this laptop to > > > > run Windoz and it was totally useless to me in this > > > > confiration. > > > > > > > > > > What the vendor said next set me ablaze. > > > > > > > > > > "WE NEVER ADVERTISED THE SYSTEM WOULD WORK WITH > > > > SOLARIS" > > > > > > > > > > I hate this. Why does the world have to use windoz? > > > > Why can we not buy a piece of hardware and put what > > > > we want on it without being harassed by the seller > > > > that it must have this software on it or we will not > > > > honor our warranty? > > > > > > > > Pissed off! > > > > Just out of curiosity - what was the brand - bit of a > > > > name and shame is > > > > in order. > > > > > > > > Matthew > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > > > > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > > > > > > I did not want to mention brands because I have had this same problem > > > with every computer that I have bought. > > > > Interesting, Toshiba and this HP I'm running right now have been the two > > best machines to run Solaris on. The only thing not supported on this is > > my webcam - its UVC compliant but requires a firmware to be uploaded > > which Solaris doesn't support. > > > > Matthew > > Interesting for me as well, :) I was using DELL laptop to run Solaris happily. > keyboard and NIC works properly. One thing I like with most Dells, rather than wasting R&D on create weird proprietary garbage they simply just grab the Intel reference boards, etc. shove them in the case and sell it. Nice and simple. I would have bought one but Harvey Norman gave me an offer I couldn't refuse :-) I just hope that Sun pulls finger and supports the webcam firmware uploading - if they do that it would support 5 models of camera in one go. Matthew ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Rant: We do not support solaris
On 7/26/07, Kaiwai Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 05:34 -0700, Mike DeMarco wrote: > > > On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 05:10 -0700, Mike DeMarco > > > wrote: > > > > I need to rant a bit: > > > > > > > >I had ordered a new laptop and when it arrived I > > > installed OpenSolaris b68. I was having many problems > > > with the keyboard and the NIC on the box. The NIC > > > driver had plumbed the interface and brought it up > > > but I was unable to send any packets or receive. I > > > susspected that there may be something wrong with the > > > hardware but could not prove it. I had to install > > > windoz and when the problems migrated there as well I > > > called the vendor to report it as a hardware problem. > > > I told the vendor that the NIC was not working > > > properly on Solaris or Windows. The vendor started > > > blaming the solaris install as the culprit and that I > > > should completely wipe the harddrive and just install > > > windoz. I did this out of discuss with the ignorance > > > of the world towards solaris. I formated the whole > > > harddrive > > > > for windoz and installed XP. I was still having the > > > problems and called the vendor. telling them that > > > even if it had worked I did not buy this laptop to > > > run Windoz and it was totally useless to me in this > > > confiration. > > > > > > > > What the vendor said next set me ablaze. > > > > > > > > "WE NEVER ADVERTISED THE SYSTEM WOULD WORK WITH > > > SOLARIS" > > > > > > > > I hate this. Why does the world have to use windoz? > > > Why can we not buy a piece of hardware and put what > > > we want on it without being harassed by the seller > > > that it must have this software on it or we will not > > > honor our warranty? > > > > > > Pissed off! > > > Just out of curiosity - what was the brand - bit of a > > > name and shame is > > > in order. > > > > > > Matthew > > > > > > ___ > > > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > > > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > > > > I did not want to mention brands because I have had this same problem with > > every computer that I have bought. > > Interesting, Toshiba and this HP I'm running right now have been the two > best machines to run Solaris on. The only thing not supported on this is > my webcam - its UVC compliant but requires a firmware to be uploaded > which Solaris doesn't support. > > Matthew Interesting for me as well, :) I was using DELL laptop to run Solaris happily. keyboard and NIC works properly. -Aubrey ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Rant: We do not support solaris
On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 05:34 -0700, Mike DeMarco wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 05:10 -0700, Mike DeMarco > > wrote: > > > I need to rant a bit: > > > > > >I had ordered a new laptop and when it arrived I > > installed OpenSolaris b68. I was having many problems > > with the keyboard and the NIC on the box. The NIC > > driver had plumbed the interface and brought it up > > but I was unable to send any packets or receive. I > > susspected that there may be something wrong with the > > hardware but could not prove it. I had to install > > windoz and when the problems migrated there as well I > > called the vendor to report it as a hardware problem. > > I told the vendor that the NIC was not working > > properly on Solaris or Windows. The vendor started > > blaming the solaris install as the culprit and that I > > should completely wipe the harddrive and just install > > windoz. I did this out of discuss with the ignorance > > of the world towards solaris. I formated the whole > > harddrive > > > for windoz and installed XP. I was still having the > > problems and called the vendor. telling them that > > even if it had worked I did not buy this laptop to > > run Windoz and it was totally useless to me in this > > confiration. > > > > > > What the vendor said next set me ablaze. > > > > > > "WE NEVER ADVERTISED THE SYSTEM WOULD WORK WITH > > SOLARIS" > > > > > > I hate this. Why does the world have to use windoz? > > Why can we not buy a piece of hardware and put what > > we want on it without being harassed by the seller > > that it must have this software on it or we will not > > honor our warranty? > > > > Pissed off! > > Just out of curiosity - what was the brand - bit of a > > name and shame is > > in order. > > > > Matthew > > > > ___ > > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > > I did not want to mention brands because I have had this same problem with > every computer that I have bought. Interesting, Toshiba and this HP I'm running right now have been the two best machines to run Solaris on. The only thing not supported on this is my webcam - its UVC compliant but requires a firmware to be uploaded which Solaris doesn't support. Matthew ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?
> I am using snv_b67 w. SUNWcxall cluster installed, I > downloaded the mauture wine, and I get a rundll32.exe > not found: ... > Last time I had used a few years ago, windows dll's > were not needed, so much for MS independence, so is > there a work around? I've no idea; I haven't had the resources (read: time) to spare to investigate (paid porting would have been a whole other ball game). Perhaps the original author of the Wine port would know more? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Rant: We do not support solaris
> On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 05:10 -0700, Mike DeMarco > wrote: > > I need to rant a bit: > > > >I had ordered a new laptop and when it arrived I > installed OpenSolaris b68. I was having many problems > with the keyboard and the NIC on the box. The NIC > driver had plumbed the interface and brought it up > but I was unable to send any packets or receive. I > susspected that there may be something wrong with the > hardware but could not prove it. I had to install > windoz and when the problems migrated there as well I > called the vendor to report it as a hardware problem. > I told the vendor that the NIC was not working > properly on Solaris or Windows. The vendor started > blaming the solaris install as the culprit and that I > should completely wipe the harddrive and just install > windoz. I did this out of discuss with the ignorance > of the world towards solaris. I formated the whole > harddrive > > for windoz and installed XP. I was still having the > problems and called the vendor. telling them that > even if it had worked I did not buy this laptop to > run Windoz and it was totally useless to me in this > confiration. > > > > What the vendor said next set me ablaze. > > > > "WE NEVER ADVERTISED THE SYSTEM WOULD WORK WITH > SOLARIS" > > > > I hate this. Why does the world have to use windoz? > Why can we not buy a piece of hardware and put what > we want on it without being harassed by the seller > that it must have this software on it or we will not > honor our warranty? > > Pissed off! > Just out of curiosity - what was the brand - bit of a > name and shame is > in order. > > Matthew > > ___ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org I did not want to mention brands because I have had this same problem with every computer that I have bought. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?
On Wed, 2007-07-25 at 01:55 -0700, Orvar Korvar wrote: > I am trying to migrate totally to Solaris Express community build 67, and I > want DC++ however, in some DC++ hubs they only allow certain DC++ clients > from the Windows environment. (For bittorrent I use the java klient Azarus > which I found a Solaris package for. For VLC player and Winamp I use mplayer > and xmms. For MATLAB I will use Linux Brandz, or Wine windows). > > As for DC++ i thought I would use Wine to run a windows DC++ client. Then my > Solaris switch would be complete and I wouldnt lack any more software. Hence, > for the Windows switcher Wine is top priority no 1 because, for instance VLC > player there is a substitute, and for all other windows programs too. > > The ideal would be to install Wine via blastwave pkg, but that doesnt work. I > have considered trying Brandz with Wine, but that sounds cumbersome. DC++ on > Wine on Linux on Solaris - too much trouble for a Solaris switch? It would be > far easier to just startup Windows then. And I doubt DC++ would work well too. > > Therefore I have laid much effort on trying to compile Wine for Solaris x86, > to no avail. There IS a solaris port of Wine, so I have tried the "Wine Patch > Kit" tarball from the top of > http://www.blastwave.org/wine/ > and followed the instructions in the "Winemaking guide". However, my > compilation struggles a lot. > > It took some time for me to figure it out, that I can not use relative path > ways, but I must use absolute path in the guide. As I have figured it out, > Wine wants to have FontForge too. GA!!! I have downloaded FontForge from > CVS and it wont compile. It says something about "splinereg3.c multiply > defined" or something similar. > > I have only one word to say: > GHHH! > > Can someone help me with this, and then we can submit Wine to blastwave as a > package? > Here is what I did. It took me about 10 minutes: gtar xjvf freetype-2.3.5.tar.bz2 gtar xjvf fontforge_full-20070607.tar.bz2 export PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/X11/bin:/usr/openwin/bin:/usr/sfw/bin:/usr/ccs/bin:/home/mark/local/bin I had to edit the configure script by replacing all "grep"s with "ggrep"s. Use sed or favorite editor. ./configure --prefix=/home/mark/local --with-freetype-src=../freetype-2.3.5 gmake gmake install cd .. gtar xjvf wine-0.9.41.tar.bz2 cd wine-0.9.41 ./configure --prefix=/home/mark/local gmake depend && gmake gmake install cd .. wine ./DCPlusPlus-0.699.exe wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/DC++/DCPlusPlus.exe And everything works fine! Ok, the fonts look like crap but that can probably be solved by installing the MS fonts or something. I didn't investigate. -Mark > > This message posted from opensolaris.org > ___ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Updating packages that are not in ON updates
On Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 09:01:25AM -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > For the majority of the OS (ON is only about 20% of Solaris), you need > to download the new ISO's and do an OS upgrade to them - unfortunately, > if you've used BFU, it breaks your ability to do upgrades. The above comment seems to imply that there is a non-BFU way to do upgrades. Is that so? (Perhaps sun online update? For which I assume I need a subscription?). I've tried googling and read all the docs I can find, do I have it correct then that these are the alternatives: (1) Update ON only (via BFU) and slowly watch the rest of the system get out of date, applying adhoc consolidation updates when things get bad (2) Regularly download full CD/DVD sets and upgrade the whole system (3) Sun online update? Is there perhaps some sort of automated approach that I may have missed that could possibly be used to keep the non-ON parts of the system up-to-date, eg. scripts that will 'mass get' all the missing consolidations and build them? Many thanks, Jonathan. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)
> hi, > > yes, 486 with 64mb is not a personal computer for > Solaris. :) 486 > _was_ a personal computer 15 years ago. Hi xlucas, In my opinion your attitude regarding OpSol is wrong. Let me explain: Do you know these "machines" http://www.soekris.com ? The hackers and tinkerers I know love Soekris hardware which is built around 486 processors and similar "weak" chips. They love it to install various Unix-like operating systems on them. Until today this means Linux and BSD - for the latter in most cases OpenBSD -. And you should see what they are doing with these "machines": Fully staffed servers for home LANs for example. With your attitude OpenSolaris will never become able to run on these because if anyone here sees 486 as some antic hardware of old Agyptian times then no one will tell the hackers and tinkerers out there to play with OpSol on Soekris like hardware. But hackers are where the most things in the Free Software scene begin. Where the most developments have their start. So we have to say that it should be possible to run OpSol on 486. We have to tell the hackers out there that they should have a look to run OpSol on Soekris. This is why I think that your thinking is wrong. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [Fwd: [Fwd: Nightlybuild - Powermanagement issues]]
On 26/07/07, Mark Haywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Aubrey Li wrote: > On 7/26/07, Aubrey Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 7/26/07, Kaiwai Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On 26/07/07, Aubrey Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On 7/26/07, Mark Haywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First of all, if I'm reading your messages correctly, you've got two > drivers trying to perform CPU power management at the same time? You > should probably remove or disable to frkit powernow driver. I think you > might as well remove it as I believe it only supports single processor > systems and you have two processors. I got the similar error on my side, # dmesg | grep PSS Jul 26 02:31:12 aubrey-nevada cpudrv: [ID 684953 kern.notice] NOTICE: cpu_acpi: _PSS package not found. Jul 26 02:31:12 aubrey-nevada cpudrv: [ID 616227 kern.warning] WARNING: cpu_acpi: error parsing _PSS for CPU instance 1 Jul 26 02:31:19 aubrey-nevada cpudrv: [ID 684953 kern.notice] NOTICE: cpu_acpi: _PSS package not found. Jul 26 02:31:19 aubrey-nevada cpudrv: [ID 616227 kern.warning] WARNING: cpu_acpi: error parsing _PSS for CPU instance 0 Jul 26 02:31:19 aubrey-nevada cpudrv: [ID 684953 kern.notice] NOTICE: cpu_acpi: _PSS package not found. Jul 26 02:31:19 aubrey-nevada cpudrv: [ID 616227 kern.warning] WARNING: cpu_acpi: error parsing _PSS for CPU instance 1 Jul 26 02:31:25 aubrey-nevada cpudrv: [ID 684953 kern.notice] NOTICE: cpu_acpi: _PSS package not found. Jul 26 02:31:25 aubrey-nevada cpudrv: [ID 616227 kern.warning] WARNING: cpu_acpi: error parsing _PSS for CPU instance 0 Jul 26 02:31:25 aubrey-nevada cpudrv: [ID 684953 kern.notice] NOTICE: cpu_acpi: _PSS package not found. Jul 26 02:31:25 aubrey-nevada cpudrv: [ID 616227 kern.warning] WARNING: cpu_acpi: error parsing _PSS for CPU instance 1 > Both drivers seemed to be having issues with the ACPI _PSS object. > Usually when I see problems like this it is due to one of two things. > > 1 - Enhanced SpeedStep has not been enabled in the BIOS setup. The problem is my default ACPI Version Features is ACPI V1.0 in the BIOS. When change it to ACPI V3.0, the warning is gone. >>> Is it possible to change it in in HP gear? or is it ACPI v1.0 by default? >> I don't think so. _PSS object is added in ACPI V3.0B, which is >> released on October 10, 2006. From your acpi info, it's not supported. >> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> cat /proc/acpi/info >>> version: 20060127 > > Oops, _PSS objects should be added in from ACPI V2.0a. So definitely > the ACPI implementation on your machine is V1.0. I assume your BIOS > returns valid _PSS objects. Yes. I _PSS was added long before 3.a. As to whether or not the _PSS are valid or why we are having trouble digesting them, I can't say unless I can see a dump of them. Is is possible for you to do that? Is there a command on Solaris which I can do that? Matthew ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)
Gueven Bay wrote: >> hi, >> >> yes, 486 with 64mb is not a personal computer for >> Solaris. :) 486 >> _was_ a personal computer 15 years ago. > > Hi xlucas, > > In my opinion your attitude regarding OpSol is wrong. > > Let me explain: Do you know these "machines" http://www.soekris.com ? > The hackers and tinkerers I know love Soekris hardware which is built around > 486 processors and similar "weak" chips. They love it to install various > Unix-like operating systems on them. Until today this means Linux and BSD - > for the latter in most cases OpenBSD -. And you should see what they are > doing with these "machines": Fully staffed servers for home LANs for example. The fundamental difference though is that you aren't doing an install of something like the latest full Fedora distribution and expecting to use it as a desktop with all the latest eye candy. I agree with you Gueven that we must make OpenSolaris a realistic choice for these kinds of devices, however that doesn't mean that Indiana is the distribution to do it with. Further discussion of this topic is redirected to appliances discuss, which is the @opensolaris.org alias best suited to it. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Changing a host name
NOTE: changing it using the GUI does not do the job, /etc/nodename must be changed as well. I had all sorts of problems until that was figured out. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] How to obtain an IP address automatically
I tried sys-unconfig on my build 67 Express, and as I can recall, it didnt ask for networky things. I recall under Solaris 10 06/06 or whatever, the sys-unconfig command also asked for networky things. But not anymore, under build 67. It only asks you hostname and only a few other questions. Not all questions. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)
On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 07:43 -0700, UNIX admin wrote: > > sorry i forgot that exists embeded platform :) I > > think soekris boards > > is not playground for Opensolaris. Soekris board is > > very good hardware > > for routers, wi-fi ap etc... but this playground is > > for BSD like > > distros or some linux distros. > > I disagree, and vehemently at that. The only question mark in Soekris's case > are the NIC chips, if they work resp. if there are Solaris drivers for them, > then the Soekris is a phenomenal platform for Solaris. Indeed, that would be > a match made in heaven. At one point wasn't there an embedded OS based on the Solaris kernel? Chorus? Matthew ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)
> sorry i forgot that exists embeded platform :) I > think soekris boards > is not playground for Opensolaris. Soekris board is > very good hardware > for routers, wi-fi ap etc... but this playground is > for BSD like > distros or some linux distros. I disagree, and vehemently at that. The only question mark in Soekris's case are the NIC chips, if they work resp. if there are Solaris drivers for them, then the Soekris is a phenomenal platform for Solaris. Indeed, that would be a match made in heaven. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] How to obtain an IP address automatically
Hello all, How do i setup opensolaris to obtain an ip address automatically? I am getting my ip address from a dhcp server. Thanks a lot! This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)
hi, yes, 486 with 64mb is not a personal computer for Solaris. :) 486 _was_ a personal computer 15 years ago. On 7/26/07, Ché Kristo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And a 486 with 64 MB is not a personal computer? > > > This message posted from opensolaris.org > ___ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > -- Lukas Oboril When dealing with people, let us remember we are not dealing with creatures of logic. We are dealing with creatures of emotions, creatures bristling with prejudices and motivated by pride and vanity. Dale Carnegie ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?
On 7/27/07, Orvar Korvar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Now I have really good hope to get Wine going with two instructions sets up to date. I am active at several user forums, and I will post your instructions there. At the forums, there are several questions on Wine and Solaris, all answered negative. In my opionion, Blastwave and the likes, should be high on Sun's priority list. It seems that to compile a program under Solaris takes years of experience. About the compile part, someone out there in their enthusiasm has built an (incorrect) aura around OpenSolaris :-) If using command-line it should be no more difficult than using gcc/VC++/Watcom/ compilers, some of the compiler options might change. If you prefer GUI and seen netbeans for java developement, one gets the same GUI for sun studio with support for C++. Using the instructions provided by others, you'll be getting the wine binaries from sources ! BTW, how do I learn to compile things? Is there a book or something to learn this? I dont want to yell at people, I want to do it myself. Any tips? Any web sites? How? If you prefer command line, see http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/coll/771.8?l=en&q=sun+studio The C Users Guide & C++ users guide are the only ones you would need to start with (installation doesn't really need a doc :)) If you prefer GUI, SXDE comes with a netbeans based nice GUI for Sun Studio and also has a bunch of tutorials. In the GUI, choose Help->Quick Start Guide. Or you may directly go to the page http://developers.sun.com/sunstudio/articles/studio_qs.html Incase something doesn't work, feel free to file a bug (Ex: the browser that is used to open html via help menu is configurable but why should it try to open mozilla when firefox is the default browser ) regards Shiv ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] ftp/nfs hangs in Guest Domains
Hi, I have T2000 server with firmware 6_4_6 and runs Solaris 10 11/06 + patched to 118833-36. Two of the four onboard ports are established to the network and each wire has two VLANs on it. VLAN ID 120/121 and VLAN 148/149 respectively. LDOMs are configured in this box. One control domain (service & I/O also) and two guest domains. The two guest domain runs one sparse zone on top of it, where applications will be actually ported. The network configuration in control domain as follows, primary-vsw0 -> e1000g0 primary-vsw1 -> e1000g1 I have binded vsw121000 and e1000g148001. vnet1 from vsw0 and vnet2 from vsw1 are assigned to guest domain #1 and #2. In guest domain #1, I have binded vnet121000 and vnet148001. Used vnet12000:1 and vnet148001:1 in zones. in guest domain #2, I have binded vnet121000 and vnet148001. Used 121000:1 and vnet149001:1 in zones. Now, what exactly I face issues is (1) All ssh/ping communications are workin well (2) When i do ftp to the Control domain, it works well. (3) When i do ftp to either guest domains, zones from a Windows desktop, it establishes the connection, but hangs when i initiate transfer or doesnt transfer at all. After some time, connection gets dropped. (4) I tried to check with NFS, made controler domain as NFS server, mounts in client, but during transfer, same problem. I would like to know why the transfers are not happening. Thanks, Subbu This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Rant: We do not support solaris
Mike DeMarco wrote: > Yes but if you call dell support and tell them you are running solaris on the > box and you believe that there is a hardware problem they will start by > asking you to run windoz commands and will not even try to help you with the > problem. Did you have to quote the entire message just to add this? Dell were quite happy to repair my Solaris only laptop. Ian ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)
> 486 processor with 64mb is toaster. If you would to > use > solaris/opensolaris you'll need to buy personal > computer. Hmmm, perhaps you should look around http://opensolaris.org/, you'll find there's a discussion list called "appliances", and Solaris running on an appliance is a worthy goal to chase after. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Rant: We do not support solaris
I need to rant a bit: I had ordered a new laptop and when it arrived I installed OpenSolaris b68. I was having many problems with the keyboard and the NIC on the box. The NIC driver had plumbed the interface and brought it up but I was unable to send any packets or receive. I susspected that there may be something wrong with the hardware but could not prove it. I had to install windoz and when the problems migrated there as well I called the vendor to report it as a hardware problem. I told the vendor that the NIC was not working properly on Solaris or Windows. The vendor started blaming the solaris install as the culprit and that I should completely wipe the harddrive and just install windoz. I did this out of discuss with the ignorance of the world towards solaris. I formated the whole harddrive for windoz and installed XP. I was still having the problems and called the vendor. telling them that even if it had worked I did not buy this laptop to run Windoz and it was totally useless to me in this confiration. What the vendor said next set me ablaze. "WE NEVER ADVERTISED THE SYSTEM WOULD WORK WITH SOLARIS" I hate this. Why does the world have to use windoz? Why can we not buy a piece of hardware and put what we want on it without being harassed by the seller that it must have this software on it or we will not honor our warranty? Pissed off! This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
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> you can also see some notes on > http://solaris.mynoteb00k.com/SMF.mht > (works only with Internet Explorer and Opera) No it doesn't.. Didn't work in Opera for me -- Scott N. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Brief introduction of Solaris
Solaris 是Sun Microsystems研发的计算机操作系统。它被认为是UNIX操作系统的衍生版本之一。
目前Solaris仍旧属于私有软件。2005年6月14日，Sun公司将正在开发中的Solaris
11的源代码以CDDL许可开放，这一开放版本就是OpenSolaris。
历史
Sun的操作系统最初叫做SunOS，由于Sun Microsystem的创始人之一，Bill
Joy来自U.C.Berkeley，因此SunOS主要是基于BSDUnix版本。SunOS 5.0开始，SUN的操作系统开发开始转向System V
Release 4，并且有了新的名字叫做Solaris 2.0；Solaris 2.6以后,SUN删除了版本号中的"2，因此，SunOS
5.10就叫做Solaris 10。 Solaris的早期版本后来又被重新命名为Solaris 1.x.
所以"SunOS"这个词被用做专指Solaris操作系统的内核，因此Solaris被认为是由SunOS，图形化的桌面计算环境, 以及它网络增强部分组成。
支持的系统架构
Solaris支持多种系统架构：SPARC、x86和x64。x64即AMD64及EMT64处理器。在版本2.5.1的时候，Solaris曾经一度被移植到PowerPC架构,
但是后来又在这一版本正式发布时被删去。与Linux相比，Solaris可以更有效地支持对称多处理器、即SMP架构。Sun同时宣布将在Solaris
10的后续版本中提供Linux运行环境, 允许Linux二进制程序直接在Solaris x86和x64系统上运行。
Solaris传统上与基于Sun SPARC处理器的硬件体系结构结合紧密,
在设计上和市场上经常捆绑在一起，整个软硬件系统的可靠性和性能也因此大大增强。然而SPARC系统的成本和价格通常要高于PC类的产品，这成为Solaris进一步普及的障碍。可喜的是，Solaris对x86体系结构的支持正得到大大加强，特别是Solaris
10已经能很好地支持x64(AMD64/EMT64)架构。Sun公司已推出自行设计的基于AMD64的工作站和服务器，并随机附带Solaris 10。
桌面环境
第一个Solaris的桌面环境是OpenWindows。紧接着是Solaris 2.5的CDE。 在Solaris
10中，Sun又推出了基于GNOME的，Java Desktop System。
软件许可
Solaris的大多数源代码已经在CDDL的许可下在OpenSolaris开源项目中发布。二进制和源代码目前都可以被下载和许可而无需任何费用。
Sun的Common Development and Distribution License被选择用做OpenSolaris的许可, 并通过了Open
Source Initiative评审和批准(尽管它与时下流行的GPL是互不兼容的[1])。
OpenSolaris于2005年6月14日正式启动，源代码来自当前的Solaris开发版本。
主要版本
Solaris未来的版本将从OpenSolaris衍生。
Solaris版本 SunOS内核版本 发布日期 简介
Solaris 10 SunOS 5.10 2005年1月31日 包括DTrace (动态跟踪), Solaris Containers,
Service Management Facility (SMF)，SMF取代了传统的UNIX的init.d脚本, 和iSCSI支持。
基于Gnome的Java Desktop System作为默认桌面, 还包含了CDE。
Solaris 9 SunOS 5.9 2002年5月22日 最近的更新是Solaris 9 9/05
Solaris 8 SunOS 5.8 200年2月 包括Multipath I/O. 引入Role-Based Access Control
(RBAC)功能。 最近的更新是Solaris 8 2/04. [2]
Solaris 7 SunOS 5.7 1998年11月 第一个64位版本。[3]
Solaris 2.6 SunOS 5.6 1997年7月 包括Kerberos 5, PAM, TrueType字体, WebNFS [4]
Solaris 2.5.1 SunOS 5.5.1 1996年5月 用户ID(uid_t)扩展为32-bits。[5]
Solaris 2.5 SunOS 5.5 1995年11月 首先支持Ultra 1并包含了CDE [6]
SUN对Solaris 7和Solaris 2.6已经不再销售但仍旧提供支持。更早期的版本已经没有支持。
SunOS仍旧用来称呼Solaris的核心. SunOS的版本号是以5.{Solaris版本号}来表示。例如，最新的Solaris发布版本，Solaris
10， 在SunOS 5.10上运行。Solaris的man手册是以SunOS为标记的，启动的时候也显示它,
但是"SunOS"这个词不再用于Sun的市场文档中。
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[osol-discuss] Has anyone successfully install the driver of the Marvell 88E8038
Hi everyone I can't install the driver,which the system notes me that:the driver havn't attached. I use the Detection Tool detect my network card,the card isn't supported.The system has identified my network card is 88E8038.. After I install it,I find the driver in the /etc/driver_alias,and the vendor-id and device-id are correct. Thank you This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Rant: We do not support solaris
On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 05:10 -0700, Mike DeMarco wrote: > I need to rant a bit: > >I had ordered a new laptop and when it arrived I installed OpenSolaris > b68. I was having many problems with the keyboard and the NIC on the box. The > NIC driver had plumbed the interface and brought it up but I was unable to > send any packets or receive. I susspected that there may be something wrong > with the hardware but could not prove it. I had to install windoz and when > the problems migrated there as well I called the vendor to report it as a > hardware problem. I told the vendor that the NIC was not working properly on > Solaris or Windows. The vendor started blaming the solaris install as the > culprit and that I should completely wipe the harddrive and just install > windoz. I did this out of discuss with the ignorance of the world towards > solaris. I formated the whole harddrive > for windoz and installed XP. I was still having the problems and called the > vendor. telling them that even if it had worked I did not buy this laptop to > run Windoz and it was totally useless to me in this confiration. > > What the vendor said next set me ablaze. > > "WE NEVER ADVERTISED THE SYSTEM WOULD WORK WITH SOLARIS" > > I hate this. Why does the world have to use windoz? Why can we not buy a > piece of hardware and put what we want on it without being harassed by the > seller that it must have this software on it or we will not honor our > warranty? > > Pissed off! Just out of curiosity - what was the brand - bit of a name and shame is in order. Matthew ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)
Hi Gueven sorry i forgot that exists embeded platform :) I think soekris boards is not playground for Opensolaris. Soekris board is very good hardware for routers, wi-fi ap etc... but this playground is for BSD like distros or some linux distros. I answered to Girts post and i'm absolutely sure about this. 486 with 64mb is _not_ great idea for _Solaris_. Not Opensolaris or something like build around Opensolaris (soekris with thin opensolaris kernel and few userspace utils). (Look at Girts post) best regards Luc On 7/26/07, Gueven Bay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hi, > > > > yes, 486 with 64mb is not a personal computer for > > Solaris. :) 486 > > _was_ a personal computer 15 years ago. > > Hi xlucas, > > In my opinion your attitude regarding OpSol is wrong. > > Let me explain: Do you know these "machines" http://www.soekris.com ? > The hackers and tinkerers I know love Soekris hardware which is built around > 486 processors and similar "weak" chips. They love it to install various > Unix-like operating systems on them. Until today this means Linux and BSD - > for the latter in most cases OpenBSD -. And you should see what they are > doing with these "machines": Fully staffed servers for home LANs for example. > > With your attitude OpenSolaris will never become able to run on these because > if anyone here sees 486 as some antic hardware of old Agyptian times then no > one will tell the hackers and tinkerers out there to play with OpSol on > Soekris like hardware. > But hackers are where the most things in the Free Software scene begin. Where > the most developments have their start. > > So we have to say that it should be possible to run OpSol on 486. We have to > tell the hackers out there that they should have a look to run OpSol on > Soekris. > > This is why I think that your thinking is wrong. > > > This message posted from opensolaris.org > ___ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > -- Lukas Oboril When dealing with people, let us remember we are not dealing with creatures of logic. We are dealing with creatures of emotions, creatures bristling with prejudices and motivated by pride and vanity. Dale Carnegie ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Brief introduction of Solaris
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Re: [osol-discuss] Rant: We do not support solaris
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 05:10:02AM -0700, Mike DeMarco wrote: >I had ordered a new laptop and when it arrived I installed OpenSolaris > b68. I was having many problems with the keyboard and the NIC on the box. > The NIC driver had plumbed the interface and brought it up but I was > unable to send any packets or receive. I know this isn't really the kind of answer you were intending, but if your laptop had an nge card, it's possible that you're running into 6517799 nge plumbs, comes up, doesn't serve data which is preventing me from putting Solaris on my little mini-pc server at home. Unfortunately, there hasn't been any movement on it in six months, other than people saying (effectively) "me, too". But enough different motherboards with this chip seem to be having the problem that my guess is it's more likely to be something wrong with Solaris. If you think that might be your problem, I can see if I can get anyone working on it. Danek ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Brief introduction of Solaris
> Solaris 是Sun > Microsystems研发的计算机操作系统。它被认为是UNIX操作系统的衍生版本之一。 > 目前Solaris仍旧属于私有软件。2005年6月14日，Sun公司将正在开发中的Solaris > 11的源代码以CDDL许可开放，这一开放版本就是OpenSolaris。 > （以下省列） 。 。 。 根据我们的经验，在介绍Solaris的时候，最好能顺便提一下Sun的BlackBox。 我们在Honolulu偶尔会招待国内来的访问团，他们对BlackBox都非常有兴趣（同时每一个单位好像都有预算采购一个大型的机器），Solaris倒变成附属品。 我们都知道广东省政府对Linux很有兴趣。深圳的朋友应该把Solaris/BlackBox的商业及科学价值引进给广东省政府，让他们将发展Solaris也能列为重点项目之一。大家都会受益。 English translation: （snip) From our experience, when introducing Solaris, it is best to also mention Sun's BlackBox. We occasionally host delegations from China, and they are very interested in BlackBox (incidentally, everyone seems to have a budget for such a super-sized system). Solaris indeed becomes ancillary. We all know that the government of the Province of Guangdong has been very active in promoting Linux. Our friends in Shengzhen should try to introduce the commercial and scientific values of Solaris/BlackBox to the Guangdong government, so that they will similarly include Solaris as one of their Preferential Policies. Everyone will benefit. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Has anyone successfully install the driver of the Marvell 88E8038
> Hi everyone
> I can't install the driver,which the system notes me
> that:the driver havn't attached.
> I use the Detection Tool detect my network card,the
> card isn't supported.The system has identified my
> network card is 88E8038..
> After I install it,I find the driver in the
> /etc/driver_alias,and the vendor-id and
> device-id are correct.
Would you please run the following:
/usr/sbin/prtconf -pv | /usr/xpg4/bin/awk '/[Ee]thernet/, /name:[\t ]+/ {print
$2;}' | /usr/xpg4/bin/awk '/pci[0-9]{1,4},[0-9]{1,4}/'
You should get back one or more 'pci,' results. Perhaps we might be
able to figure out whether your NIC really is supported.
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Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?
Update: I also have gotten wine compiled without any problems. Didn't have the
time to test it yet though. Here is what I did:
1. downloaded the latest wine (0.9.41) from winehq (or some such)
2. set up the environment (I use `tcsh`, so these will need to be adapted for
Bourne shell family):
setenv PATH ${PATH}:/usr/ccs/bin:/usr/sfw/bin; rehash
3. ran:
./configure --prefix=/opt/abcd/ --sysconfdir=/etc/opt/abcd/
--mandir=/opt/abcd/share/man --datadir=/var/opt/abcd
4. ran `gmake`.
The thing compiled with Sun's bundled GCC. Now, as a rule I *don't* compile
with GCC, but in this case it didn't look like it'd be very wise to push my
luck.
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