Re: [opensuse-factory] configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Juan Erbes schreef: 2007/9/10, M9. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [...] Now I probed with the 64 bits version, and it has no problem: ./configure checking build system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu checking host system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu checking target system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking for gawk... gawk checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes checking for gcc... gcc checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking whether we are cross compiling... no checking for suffix of executables... checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed checking for style of include used by make... GNU checking dependency style of gcc... gcc3 checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E checking for egrep... grep -E checking for ANSI C header files... yes checking for a sed that does not truncate output... /usr/bin/sed checking for ld used by gcc... /usr/x86_64-suse-linux/bin/ld checking if the linker (/usr/x86_64-suse-linux/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes checking for /usr/x86_64-suse-linux/bin/ld option to reload object files... -r checking for BSD-compatible nm... /usr/bin/nm -B checking whether ln -s works... yes checking how to recognise dependent libraries... pass_all checking for sys/types.h... yes checking for sys/stat.h... yes checking for stdlib.h... yes checking for string.h... yes checking for memory.h... yes checking for strings.h... yes checking for inttypes.h... yes checking for stdint.h... yes checking for unistd.h... yes checking dlfcn.h usability... yes checking dlfcn.h presence... yes checking for dlfcn.h... yes checking for g++... g++ checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... yes checking whether g++ accepts -g... yes checking dependency style of g++... gcc3 checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... g++ -E checking for g77... no checking for f77... no checking for xlf... no checking for frt... no checking for pgf77... no checking for fort77... no checking for fl32... no checking for af77... no checking for f90... no checking for xlf90... no checking for pgf90... no checking for epcf90... no checking for f95... no checking for fort... no checking for xlf95... no checking for ifc... no checking for efc... no checking for pgf95... no checking for lf95... no checking for gfortran... no checking whether we are using the GNU Fortran 77 compiler... no checking whether accepts -g... no checking the maximum length of command line arguments... 32768 checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output from gcc object... ok checking for objdir... .libs checking for ar... ar checking for ranlib... ranlib checking for strip... strip checking if gcc static flag works... yes checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions... no checking for gcc option to produce PIC... -fPIC checking if gcc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o... yes checking whether the gcc linker (/usr/x86_64-suse-linux/bin/ld -m elf_x86_64) supports shared libraries... yes checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in... no checking dynamic linker characteristics... GNU/Linux ld.so checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes checking whether to build shared libraries... yes checking whether to build static libraries... yes configure: creating libtool appending configuration tag CXX to libtool checking for ld used by g++... /usr/x86_64-suse-linux/bin/ld -m elf_x86_64 checking if the linker (/usr/x86_64-suse-linux/bin/ld -m elf_x86_64) is GNU ld... yes checking whether the g++ linker (/usr/x86_64-suse-linux/bin/ld -m elf_x86_64) supports shared libraries... yes checking for g++ option to produce PIC... -fPIC checking if g++ PIC flag -fPIC works... yes checking if g++ supports -c -o file.o... yes checking whether the g++ linker (/usr/x86_64-suse-linux/bin/ld -m elf_x86_64) supports shared libraries... yes checking dynamic linker characteristics... GNU/Linux ld.so checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes appending configuration tag F77 to libtool checking for an ANSI C-conforming const... yes checking for inline... inline checking for size_t... yes checking for unistd.h... (cached) yes checking sys/param.h usability... yes checking sys/param.h presence... yes checking for sys/param.h... yes checking limits.h usability... yes checking limits.h presence...
[opensuse-factory] 10.3 Beta3 cp problem
I don't understand what is happening, it's just this one program that
seems to complain, install-sh looks like any other.
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#!/bin/sh
# install - install a program, script, or datafile
scriptversion=2005-02-02.21
STUFF DELETED
# set DOITPROG to echo to test this script
# Don't use :- since 4.3BSD and earlier shells don't like it.
doit=${DOITPROG-}
# put in absolute paths if you don't have them in your path; or use env.
vars.
mvprog=${MVPROG-mv}
cpprog=${CPPROG-cp}
chmodprog=${CHMODPROG-chmod}
chownprog=${CHOWNPROG-chown}
chgrpprog=${CHGRPPROG-chgrp}
stripprog=${STRIPPROG-strip}
rmprog=${RMPROG-rm}
mkdirprog=${MKDIRPROG-mkdir}
chmodcmd=$chmodprog 0755
chowncmd=
chgrpcmd=
stripcmd=
rmcmd=$rmprog -f
mvcmd=$mvprog
src=
dst=
dir_arg=
dstarg=
no_target_directory=
===
bumble:/ftp/SEP07/hamlib-1.2.7cvs # ./install-sh -c -m 644
/ftp/SEP07/hamlib-1.2.7cvs/include/hamlib/rig.h /usr/include/hamlib/rig.h
cp: missing destination file operand after
`/ftp/SEP07/hamlib-1.2.7cvs/include/hamlib/rig.h'
Try `cp --help' for more information.
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bumble:/ftp/SEP07/hamlib-1.2.7cvs # make install
Making install in macros
make[1]: Entering directory `/ftp/SEP07/hamlib-1.2.7cvs/macros'
make[2]: Entering directory `/ftp/SEP07/hamlib-1.2.7cvs/macros'
make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'.
make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/ftp/SEP07/hamlib-1.2.7cvs/macros'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/ftp/SEP07/hamlib-1.2.7cvs/macros'
Making install in include
make[1]: Entering directory `/ftp/SEP07/hamlib-1.2.7cvs/include'
make[2]: Entering directory `/ftp/SEP07/hamlib-1.2.7cvs/include'
make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'.
test -z /usr/include || mkdir -p -- /usr/include
/ftp/SEP07/hamlib-1.2.7cvs/install-sh -c -m 644 'hamlib/rig.h'
'/usr/include/hamlib/rig.h'
cp: missing destination file operand after `hamlib/rig.h'
Try `cp --help' for more information.
/ftp/SEP07/hamlib-1.2.7cvs/install-sh -c -m 644 'hamlib/riglist.h'
'/usr/include/hamlib/riglist.h'
cp: missing destination file operand after `hamlib/riglist.h'
Try `cp --help' for more information.
/ftp/SEP07/hamlib-1.2.7cvs/install-sh -c -m 644 'hamlib/rig_dll.h'
'/usr/include/hamlib/rig_dll.h'
cp: missing destination file operand after `hamlib/rig_dll.h'
Try `cp --help' for more information.
/ftp/SEP07/hamlib-1.2.7cvs/install-sh -c -m 644 'hamlib/rotator.h'
'/usr/include/hamlib/rotator.h'
cp: missing destination file operand after `hamlib/rotator.h'
Try `cp --help' for more information.
/ftp/SEP07/hamlib-1.2.7cvs/install-sh -c -m 644 'hamlib/rotlist.h'
'/usr/include/hamlib/rotlist.h'
cp: missing destination file operand after `hamlib/rotlist.h'
Try `cp --help' for more information.
/ftp/SEP07/hamlib-1.2.7cvs/install-sh -c -m 644 'hamlib/rigclass.h'
'/usr/include/hamlib/rigclass.h'
cp: missing destination file operand after `hamlib/rigclass.h'
Try `cp --help' for more information.
/ftp/SEP07/hamlib-1.2.7cvs/install-sh -c -m 644 'hamlib/rotclass.h'
'/usr/include/hamlib/rotclass.h'
cp: missing destination file operand after `hamlib/rotclass.h'
Try `cp --help' for more information.
make[2]: *** [install-nobase_includeHEADERS] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/ftp/SEP07/hamlib-1.2.7cvs/include'
make[1]: *** [install-am] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/ftp/SEP07/hamlib-1.2.7cvs/include'
make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
bumble:/ftp/SEP07/hamlib-1.2.7cvs #
What's up here?
Regards
Sid.
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[opensuse-factory] opensuse wiki: proposal for Bugs:Most Annoying Bugs page format
When adding bug to the list of most annoying bugs it would be good that everybody follow the same system. == openSUSE 10.3 Beta 3 == * the newest bug * already listed bugs that follows overall schema on the page, where newer versions are listed at the top of the page. It is also usefull to have listed Workround: or/and Solution: summary, like Workround: nspluginwrapper -a -i Solution: online update published -- Regards, Rajko. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] What changed between Build1005 and Build1010 in x86_64?
Hi,
I was looking into https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=307781 -
basically, Nautilus crashes inside libeel in x86_64 at the start of a
varargs function. JPR helped me take disassemblies of both builds; this
is the start of the function for both versions:
Build1005 - crashes (built on bach.suse.de)
(gdb) disassemble eel_canvas_item_new
0x00033c60 eel_canvas_item_new+0: mov%rbp,-0x18(%rsp)
0x00033c65 eel_canvas_item_new+5: mov%r12,-0x10(%rsp)
0x00033c6a eel_canvas_item_new+10:mov%rdi,%rbp
0x00033c6d eel_canvas_item_new+13:mov%r13,-0x8(%rsp)
0x00033c72 eel_canvas_item_new+18:mov%rbx,-0x20(%rsp)
0x00033c77 eel_canvas_item_new+23:sub$0xf8,%rsp
0x00033c7e eel_canvas_item_new+30:mov%rcx,0x38(%rsp)
0x00033c83 eel_canvas_item_new+35:movzbl %al,%ecx
0x00033c86 eel_canvas_item_new+38:mov%r8,0x40(%rsp)
0x00033c8b eel_canvas_item_new+43:lea0x0(,%rcx,4),%rax
0x00033c93 eel_canvas_item_new+51:lea0x20(%rip),%rcx #
0x33cba eel_canvas_item_new+90
note the offset
0x00033c9a eel_canvas_item_new+58:mov%r9,0x48(%rsp)
0x00033c9f eel_canvas_item_new+63:mov%rsi,%r12
0x00033ca2 eel_canvas_item_new+66:mov%rdx,%r13
0x00033ca5 eel_canvas_item_new+69:sub%rax,%rcx
0x00033ca8 eel_canvas_item_new+72:lea0xcf(%rsp),%rax
0x00033cb0 eel_canvas_item_new+80:jmpq *%rcx
0x00033cb2 eel_canvas_item_new+82:movaps %xmm7,-0xf(%rax)
0x00033cb6 eel_canvas_item_new+86:movaps %xmm6,-0x1f(%rax)
^ note how only xmm7
and xmm6 get used
0x00033cba eel_canvas_item_new+90:callq 0x23cd8 [EMAIL
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Build1010 - doesn't crash (built on roth.suse.de)
(gdb) disassemble eel_canvas_item_new
0x2b91e8ee8ee0 eel_canvas_item_new+0: mov%rbp,-0x18(%rsp)
0x2b91e8ee8ee5 eel_canvas_item_new+5: mov%r12,-0x10(%rsp)
0x2b91e8ee8eea eel_canvas_item_new+10:mov%rdi,%rbp
0x2b91e8ee8eed eel_canvas_item_new+13:mov%r13,-0x8(%rsp)
0x2b91e8ee8ef2 eel_canvas_item_new+18:mov%rbx,-0x20(%rsp)
0x2b91e8ee8ef7 eel_canvas_item_new+23:sub$0xf8,%rsp
0x2b91e8ee8efe eel_canvas_item_new+30:mov%rcx,0x38(%rsp)
0x2b91e8ee8f03 eel_canvas_item_new+35:movzbl %al,%ecx
0x2b91e8ee8f06 eel_canvas_item_new+38:mov%r8,0x40(%rsp)
0x2b91e8ee8f0b eel_canvas_item_new+43:lea0x0(,%rcx,4),%rax
0x2b91e8ee8f13 eel_canvas_item_new+51:lea0x38(%rip),%rcx#
0x2b91e8ee8f52 eel_canvas_item_new+114
^^ different
offset
0x2b91e8ee8f1a eel_canvas_item_new+58:mov%r9,0x48(%rsp)
0x2b91e8ee8f1f eel_canvas_item_new+63:mov%rsi,%r12
0x2b91e8ee8f22 eel_canvas_item_new+66:mov%rdx,%r13
0x2b91e8ee8f25 eel_canvas_item_new+69:sub%rax,%rcx
0x2b91e8ee8f28 eel_canvas_item_new+72:lea0xcf(%rsp),%rax
0x2b91e8ee8f30 eel_canvas_item_new+80:jmpq *%rcx
0x2b91e8ee8f32 eel_canvas_item_new+82:movaps %xmm7,-0xf(%rax)
0x2b91e8ee8f36 eel_canvas_item_new+86:movaps %xmm6,-0x1f(%rax)
0x2b91e8ee8f3a eel_canvas_item_new+90:movaps %xmm5,-0x2f(%rax)
0x2b91e8ee8f3e eel_canvas_item_new+94:movaps %xmm4,-0x3f(%rax)
0x2b91e8ee8f42 eel_canvas_item_new+98:movaps %xmm3,-0x4f(%rax)
0x2b91e8ee8f46 eel_canvas_item_new+102: movaps %xmm2,-0x5f(%rax)
0x2b91e8ee8f4a eel_canvas_item_new+106: movaps %xmm1,-0x6f(%rax)
0x2b91e8ee8f4e eel_canvas_item_new+110: movaps %xmm0,-0x7f(%rax)
^ xmm7 to xmm0 get
used
0x2b91e8ee8f52 eel_canvas_item_new+114: callq 0x2b91e8ed8c58 [EMAIL
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I'm wondering what might have changed. The bug has been there since
Beta1, but with the latest (post-Beta3) it doesn't happen. Did the
compiler change or something? The build hosts are different, but
shouldn't they produce the same results?
Thanks,
Federico
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Re: [opensuse-factory] VirtualBox can not work
Sid Boyce wrote: Pang Dawei wrote: Hi,there, I used the openSuse10.3 beta3 in the x86_64 machine.CPU is Intel Pentium 4 3.80GHz HT. I can create and configure a guest os, but I can not make it run, VirtualBox showd 'Aborted'. The dmesg reported 'VirtualBox[6299]: segfault at 00300030 rip 2b9c3b1bd856 rsp 41122620 error 4' Could you give me some idea about the problem? BTW,I found the VirtualBox had released 1.5.0OSE,will openSuse10.3 contain that? Thank you very much. I'm not familiar with Intel CPU's, but if Beta3 x86_64 is installed, it must be ia64. The kernel is 64-bit and VirtualBox needs to build and install a 32-bit module (vboxdrv) and that's not compatible. The VirtualBox site says that they don't expect to do 64-bit anytime soon, so we are out of luck there. I also looked at VMware, same problem. So KVM is the only option that supports both 32-bit and 64-bit VM's. Not sure about Xen. Regards Sid. I must have been looking at old documentation, Virtualbox runs on 64-bit AMD64 is mentioned but not IA64. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] VirtualBox can not work
On Tuesday 11 September 2007 08:10:58 pm Sid Boyce wrote: Sid Boyce wrote: Pang Dawei wrote: Hi,there, I used the openSuse10.3 beta3 in the x86_64 machine.CPU is Intel Pentium 4 3.80GHz HT. I can create and configure a guest os, but I can not make it run, VirtualBox showd 'Aborted'. The dmesg reported 'VirtualBox[6299]: segfault at 00300030 rip 2b9c3b1bd856 rsp 41122620 error 4' Could you give me some idea about the problem? BTW,I found the VirtualBox had released 1.5.0OSE,will openSuse10.3 contain that? Thank you very much. I'm not familiar with Intel CPU's, but if Beta3 x86_64 is installed, it must be ia64. The kernel is 64-bit and VirtualBox needs to build and install a 32-bit module (vboxdrv) and that's not compatible. The VirtualBox site says that they don't expect to do 64-bit anytime soon, so we are out of luck there. I also looked at VMware, same problem. So KVM is the only option that supports both 32-bit and 64-bit VM's. Not sure about Xen. Regards Sid. I must have been looking at old documentation, Virtualbox runs on 64-bit AMD64 is mentioned but not IA64. Regards Sid. I don't know how to solve your problem, but a clarification for you: AMD64, x86-64, and IA-32e are the same architecture. They are not the same as IA-64 -- This is the 64-bit Itanium architecture. You want the x86-64 or AMD64 version to run on your processor. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] How to check the sanity of the system
Someone can tell me how to check the sanity of the system? I have 2 installations of opensuse 10.3 beta 3: 1- 32 bits upgraded from 10.2 beta 2 kde 2- x86-64 kde, instaled from zero in 10.3 beta 2 (previous versions of x86-64, could not be installed because the bug of the ahci driver). In the 32 bits I found 2 weeks ago some libraries named libstdc++*, which date was from year 2000, i would to verify from which package are it, but with rpm -q could not detect it, and I moved it to a backup directory. This 32 bits system has from time to time a rpmdb crashes, and acls from the removabledevices do'nt work right. Then I asked You how to check the sanity of the system. If I do'nt find the way, I must to format the 32 bits system partition, and later add the packages from non official repos, and recompile some applications. The x86-64 works better than the 32 bits version, do'nt has the rpmdb crashes and the acls for the removable devices works fine. The common problem with the 32 bits version, is with the wxGTK based applications. Regards - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] How to check the sanity of the system
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The Tuesday 2007-09-11 at 23:19 -0300, Juan Erbes wrote:
In the 32 bits I found 2 weeks ago some libraries named libstdc++*,
which date was from year 2000, i would to verify from which package
are it, but with rpm -q could not detect it, and I moved it to a
backup directory.
You can get the 'rpm -q' output sorted by installation date. My preferred
method is (was) this:
rpm -q -a --queryformat %{INSTALLTIME}\t%{INSTALLTIME:day} \
%{BUILDTIME:day} %-30{NAME}\t%15{VERSION}-%-7{RELEASE} \
%25{PACKAGER}\n | sort | less -S
You can add the fields you like to that output (--querytags gives you the
available tags).
Or you can use rpm -q -a --last which sorts directly.
This 32 bits system has from time to time a rpmdb crashes,
Try a rebuild of the database. Or reinstall an older version of the
database, a backup is created by cron daily, I think.
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Re: [opensuse] Ext3 vs Reiser FS
On Montag, 10. September 2007, David C. Rankin wrote: Daniel Bauer wrote: On Monday 10 September 2007, Kai Ponte wrote: On Monday 10 September 2007 07:05, Frank Fiene wrote: On Montag, 10. September 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am about to install openSuSE 10.2 on two new computers and see that the 10.2 default file system is ext3 and not Reiser. I'd like some advice as whether to accept the ext3 default or to go with Reiser as I have in the past. reiserfs is dead! Not entirely, Reiserfs 3x is finished and is not going to receive further development. Reiserfs 4x is not complete, *but* the jury is still out on whether, and how much, development is currently taking place. You're right. not entirely but nearly entirely. It receives no further development, also no bugfixes and performance improvements for actual hardware. Reiser4 (not Reiserfs 4) will never be completed! Hmmm maybe at the same time when Hurd is released! ;-) see http://www.namesys.com/v4/v4.html and http://www.namesys.com/install_v4.html No, his wife is. Who? The wife of reiserfs? Or does he mean Hans Reisers wife? Anyway ... Maybe. Maybe not. Nobody (of us) knows. Having good (well: a lot of) expertise in media I don't believe a single word I read or hear in the news. I don't care about if Hans Reisers wife is dead or not, but at the moment he has some trouble and no one pushes Reiser4. But we are talking about reiserfs, not Reiser4. Regarding reiserfs: Me too: Reiserfs has performance problems with extended attributes and does not scale on SMP-Machines because of global kernel locks. And we will see more of this multicore system day by day. http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2006-09/msg00542.html So my opinion: reiserfs is dead! And i've never seen Reiser4 in a productive environment. But that is the one we want to have, or maybe ZFS. For example, Fefes benchmarks shows incredible performance with reiser4. But ... you know, it has not been released yet and is unstable ... Frank -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] reporting bugs upstream
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, today i again hit problem which is known for long time. If someone report bug which is too - much complicated / no one is able to fix it / package maintainer is overloaded - bug assignee close this bug as WONTFIX and ask reporter to move bug in upstream facility (another bugzilla for example). I understand this (as i was overloaded package maintainer also) but i also thing it is packager responsibility to report bug to upstream and track them here. As I know many others are also not sure about it I am asking here. So what is standard procedure? Thanks, Pavel - -- S pozdravem / With Regards Pavel Nemec package-maintainer - - SuSE CR, s.r.o. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lihovarska 1060/12 tel:+420 2 9654 2373 190 00 Praha 9 fax:+420 2 9654 2374 Ceska republika http://www.suse.cz -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG5jWWtC2k9sM0JJsRApv0AJ48mOvbor0jEyoXnhP3JBlYFrmanwCfT9aq tzmIdhgJecWLg0W2Esf5uvM= =MP+P -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Question about versions
Dirk Moolman wrote: I searched the web for 2 packages (glibc*, and glibc-devel*) - I see there are many versions out there, but this made me wonder about something else. If I install for example, glibc-2.3.3, must the accompanying glibc-devel package be the same version (also 2.3.3) ? Why would you want them to NOT match??? Seriously.No, they don't HAVE to match, but to have non-matching versions would be like buying a car engine and transmission with slightly different bolt-patterns. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ext3 vs Reiser FS
joe wrote: Aaron Kulkis wrote: In my experience, reiserfs is not safe. It frequently fails (corruption and/or file loss) in the event of improper shutdown such as power failure or system crash. Conversely, in Iraq, where I experienced frequent power-related shutdowns, and a couple crashes (due to I think, running out of swap space), I never lost a single file using ext3 and xfs. Dunno, but I think there must have been something else going on there. Maybe you were running an old version, or you were running it on some old redhat 2.4 kernel (which I've seen problems with) This was the final Reiser 3.x on Suse 9.3 FWIW reiserfs as shipped by suse has been a trooper for us, a rock star of the data center as it were. It wouldn't be shipped with SLES if it were flaky. Those stuffy Swiss bankers have a low tolerance for bugs, you know. Regardless, in my actual experience, it's not nearly as trustworthy as XFS or ext3. And the Reiser was on a system with genuine IBM SCSI disks -- the highest available quality at the time, so the corruption and losses can't be blamed on the hard drives. When I upgraded (Suse 9.2 to Suse 9.3) and got rid of the ReiserFS, I suffered no more data losses or corruption following crashes and power-glitches. When we building some big new servers a year or so ago, I did some benchmarks on ext2, ext3, reiserfs, jfs and xfs. ext3 had some real performance issues, xfs showed very consistent performance, and jfs had modest performance, but the lowest cpu usage. For sheer i/o speed, ext2 was the winner, with reiserfs coming in second, far ahead of the rest of the pack. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ext3 vs Reiser FS
Regarding reiserfs: I still use it, it survived several sudden power-downs, I'm happy with it, having countless text, photo and tar.gz files from some Kilobytes up to hundreds of MB's. Don't know, if that's very efficient, but it's fast and it works reliably (knock on wood). This is why I have used reiserfs up until now. I used to use ext2 (SUSE6.x days) and had real problems. That kind of put me off ext anything (logical or not, it is the reaction I had). I moved over to reiserfs and had flawless performance ever since.. over power losses, friends hitting the off switch because that's how they power down Windows, flaky power supplies... and so on. All along , reiserfs has worked. That said... for reasons discussed here... like scaling.. I am seriously considering a change. I wish ZFS was ready to go on Linux :-P That would be my top choice. It's so fast on Solaris... and robust as well. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ext3 vs Reiser FS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Carlos E. R. wrote: The Monday 2007-09-10 at 14:30 -0400, Aaron Kulkis wrote: In my experience, reiserfs is not safe. It frequently fails (corruption and/or file loss) in the event of improper shutdown such as power failure or system crash. Conversely, in Iraq, where I experienced frequent power-related shutdowns, and a couple crashes (due to I think, running out of swap space), I never lost a single file using ext3 and xfs. I have completely lost partitions in reiserfs, ext3, and xfs. All three of them. Lots of lost data. And I keep using the three of them. But I will not swear by any of them. I just make backups, because I know I will loose data again. I don't know when, I simply know I will. This is really FS independent, this will happen on whatever software, hardware, and FS one uses. What would be useful is a real world MTF (mean time to failure) stat as well as performance stats, so one can make decisions about real world reliability as well as performance. What we have is a lot of anecdotal information, but very little one can pin numbers on. As for ext3 until someone fixes the truly appalling performance of the consistency checks (and the default behaviour of firing up those checks periodically), I am sticking with reiser. - -- == I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG5ktKasN0sSnLmgIRAnzsAKDn1vSHVtbJ15nq2SaLENT+nqxA5QCeNXBM vHHExfBBwfCUx8TBXMXvF9Y= =CB+/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: IDE for Mono
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kai Ponte wrote: On Sunday 09 September 2007 03:25, Eberhard Roloff wrote: Kai Ponte wrote: I'm getting kind of tired of fighting Java for one of my apps. Since most of my staff is C# trained, I'm thinking it is time to switch and leverage their knowledge. Anybody know of a good IDE for Mono? I know there's the MonoDevelop editor, but I've yet to find an IDE out there. http://www.gotmono.com/docs/ide/eclipse.html Oh, that's funny! I actually started the project I'm doing in Eclipse, but gave up because the tool didn't have a GUI editor and the third-party tool I was attempting to use (http://www.windowbuilderpro.com/) would crash always in Linux. Am I right in thinking that the problem with Java was no GUI editor in Eclipse... (not sure about the latest versions but this a bit of a problem in earlier versions, as well as the rather indifferent UML support). Actually Netbeans (community edition) does include a GUI editor (I installed this to fill this gap), not really explored this in any depth or recently as what I am currently working on is non-Java and non-GUI. Unfortunately, this is a non-RPM install. - -- == I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG5k6AasN0sSnLmgIRAqxEAKDJGE/vvXK2KsOiSFekdY3GTtpTNQCfWQdm T88sVfv5FoCGxEpH1HCgtuk= =LQRf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ext3 vs Reiser FS
On Monday 10 September 2007 19:25, Aaron Kulkis wrote: Frank Fiene wrote: On Montag, 10. September 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am about to install openSuSE 10.2 on two new computers and see that the 10.2 default file system is ext3 and not Reiser. I'd like some advice as whether to accept the ext3 default or to go with Reiser as I have in the past. reiserfs is dead! Yes, and I was burned by reiserfs a couple times. My next upgrade, I converted to ext3 and xfs. Despite several power-failures (in Iraq during generator maintenance), I never lost a single file with ext3 and xfs. Here is my system: $ mount | grep / /dev/sda5 on / type ext3 (rw,acl,user_xattr) /dev/sda6 on /usr type xfs (rw) /dev/sda7 on /var type xfs (rw) /dev/sda8 on /opt type xfs (rw) /dev/sda11 on /home type xfs (rw) /dev/sda9 on /tmp type xfs (rw) /dev/sdb1 on /windows/c type ntfs (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,gid=100,umask=0002,nls=utf8) proc on /proc type proc (rw) sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw) debugfs on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw) udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,mode=0620,gid=5) securityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw) I hope I haven't missed this elsewhere, but I'd be interested to know if there are special reasons why you've used ext3 on / and xfs on your other Linux partitions - just as a pointer next time I'm setting up a disk. Cheers Fergus -- Fergus Wilde Chetham's Library Long Millgate Manchester M3 1SB Tel: 0161 834 7961 Fax: 0161 839 5797 http://www.chethams.org.uk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] How do I find out why my server crashed?
My server crashed last night and I can't see anything in the logs as to why. I couldn't ssh in so I connected a screen and keyboard, the screen stayed on standby and I couldn't even toggle the caps-lock. I'm thinking that it was a kernel panic but without the screen I don't know what caused it. I can't see anything except a huge gap in the logs so they're no help. Is there anywhere else I can look to try and find out what the problem was so I can stop it happening again? I don't appreciate being dragged out of bed and half-way across the city by our Australian friends who can't go to bed at a sensible time. thanks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] KAddressBokk Maps stopped working
Hi all, KAddressBook was a functionality that presents a map, from www.uk.map24.com if this is the selected site, in Konqueror when you click in a address stored in a contact card. Suddenly that stopped working. I click in the address, Konqueror starts, opens the site, shows the address in the left panel, but only presents the UK map. KAddressBook has other sites for maps, but they only show the initial page. I tried to search some addresses with Firefox and the site worked ok. Any suggestions? -- Regards, Lívio Cipriano -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] How do I find out why my server crashed?
On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 09:59 +0100, Kevin Thorpe wrote: My server crashed last night and I can't see anything in the logs as to why. I couldn't ssh in so I connected a screen and keyboard, the screen stayed on standby and I couldn't even toggle the caps-lock. I'm thinking that it was a kernel panic but without the screen I don't know what caused it. I can't see anything except a huge gap in the logs so they're no help. Is there anywhere else I can look to try and find out what the problem was so I can stop it happening again? I don't appreciate being dragged out of bed and half-way across the city by our Australian friends who can't go to bed at a sensible time. Big gap in the logs suggests to me no electricity. -- Dave Cotton [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] glibc packages (32bit)
On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 08:30:09PM +0200, Dirk Moolman wrote: Hi everyone, where can I download the 32bit rpm's for the glibc packages ? glibc-2*.i686.rpm and glibc-devel-2*.i386.rpm (Suse SLES9) For AMD64 systems? Just get the glibc-32bit packages. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] reporting bugs upstream
On 09/11/2007 02:28 PM, Pavel Nemec wrote: Hello, today i again hit problem which is known for long time. If someone report bug which is too - much complicated / no one is able to fix it / package maintainer is overloaded - bug assignee close this bug as WONTFIX and ask reporter to move bug in upstream facility (another bugzilla for example). I understand this (as i was overloaded package maintainer also) but i also thing it is packager responsibility to report bug to upstream and track them here. As I know many others are also not sure about it I am asking here. So what is standard procedure? Not sure what the procedure is, but what I try to do is determine if the bug is present only in SuSE or generally, and if generally, then I try to report it upstream. If SUSE specific, then to SUSE bugzilla. If I cannot get enough info to determine that, then I may decide I do not know enough to file a bug report for the issue, or I may as a catch all default try the SUSE bugzilla. If by finding the fix or similar reports for other distros on a bug, then I will only file upstream. A standard procedure would be good to know, if there is one, or if not, it would be helpful to arrive at the most efficient procedure possible. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.2 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ext3 vs Reiser FS
I have two 500 GB SATA II drives. My programs do lots of file I/O and can generate files as large as 15-20 GB in some of my scientific applications. You could also consider xfs, it's very god for large files. Even better, test your application with both types of filesystem, and then decide. Testing is definitely the best way to reach a decision. About a year ago, I tested ext3, xfs, and reiserfs for our systems. We do molecular dynamics simulations on clusters, and that means that we have several clients appending to large files (10GB) simultaneously. I've discovered that xfs came out fastest (and with a relatively low load on the NFS server), ext3 was second, and reiserfs clearly the weakest. However, when I repeated a few of the tests on a local file system, that picture changed drastically: reiserfs was more or less on par with xfs, with ext3 being way behind. So, it definitely depends on the details of your application. As for the stability, the data I have is much softer (read: anecdotal). We've had a few crashes with reiserfs, including some data loss. At one point, a rebuild_tree failed and left a disc with no file names and only a limited directory hierarchy. While xfs seems to be more stable, it shows some problems as well (no data loss so far). In my experience, ext3 has been rock solid. However, since fs crashes and data loss are such rare events (at least, they should be), it is quite hard to gather reliable data, and the signal-to-noise ratio tends to be low. Besides, reiserfs takes a long time to mount; and mkfs.xfs is incredibly fast. Of course, creating files systems (and even mounting them) is a rare occurrence, so these points should not influence your decision unless everything else is equal. A. -- Ansgar Esztermann Researcher Sysadmin http://www.mpibpc.mpg.de/groups/grubmueller/start/people/aeszter/index.shtml pgp80ntxKYIPN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] reporting bugs upstream
On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 08:28 +0200, Pavel Nemec wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, today i again hit problem which is known for long time. If someone report bug which is too - much complicated / no one is able to fix it / package maintainer is overloaded - bug assignee close this bug as WONTFIX and ask reporter to move bug in upstream facility (another bugzilla for example). I understand this (as i was overloaded package maintainer also) but i also thing it is packager responsibility to report bug to upstream and track them here. As I know many others are also not sure about it I am asking here. So what is standard procedure? The procedure we're using in the GNOME and OO groups is to use the keyword should_go_upstream and later one of us or a QA person will move the bug upstream (if its not there already) and mark the bug RESOLVED/LATER. Periodically we'll query to see if the upstream bug status has changed. Not really clear if this is scalable or not yet. -JP -- JP Rosevear [EMAIL PROTECTED] Novell, Inc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ext3 vs Reiser FS
On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 09:01 +0100, G T Smith wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Carlos E. R. wrote: The Monday 2007-09-10 at 14:30 -0400, Aaron Kulkis wrote: In my experience, reiserfs is not safe. It frequently fails (corruption and/or file loss) in the event of improper shutdown such as power failure or system crash. Short of disk failures I been lucky and never lost a filesystem, ext or otherwise. SNIP As for ext3 until someone fixes the truly appalling performance of the consistency checks (and the default behaviour of firing up those checks periodically), I am sticking with reiser. That's one thing that really annoys me. A while ago I changed a production system with about 1.5T storage and since it been over 180 days since last fsck my reboot took almost 1 hour (when I had told the client that a reboot is fast, takes max 15 minutes) - -- == I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG5ktKasN0sSnLmgIRAnzsAKDn1vSHVtbJ15nq2SaLENT+nqxA5QCeNXBM vHHExfBBwfCUx8TBXMXvF9Y= =CB+/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ext3 vs Reiser FS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-09-11 at 08:17 +0200, Frank Fiene wrote: You're right. not entirely but nearly entirely. It receives no further development, also no bugfixes and performance improvements for actual hardware. Wrong. It does receive bugfixes. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG5ob4tTMYHG2NR9URAngRAJ97K4uEyykPHcUPAZsgCWlI+LlRHwCePwNt r0tD1gU1o7bqk/nugRx1gto= =bBbm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Compiling OpenOffice
Im trying to recompile OpenOffice 2.2 (srpm from buildservice) but requires java2-devel-packages. Where can I find this? Google is no help. Also do I actually need the 125Meg openclipart package or can I just ignore the dependency? Thanks Hans E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ext3 vs Reiser FS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-09-11 at 09:01 +0100, G T Smith wrote: I have completely lost partitions in reiserfs, ext3, and xfs. All three of them. Lots of lost data. And I keep using the three of them. But I will not swear by any of them. I just make backups, because I know I will loose data again. I don't know when, I simply know I will. This is really FS independent, this will happen on whatever software, hardware, and FS one uses. What would be useful is a real world MTF (mean time to failure) stat as well as performance stats, so one can make decisions about real world reliability as well as performance. What we have is a lot of anecdotal information, but very little one can pin numbers on. No, I'm talking about real software failures in the filesystem. XFS, for instance: nimrodel:~ # xfs_repair /dev/hdd8 Phase 1 - find and verify superblock... Phase 2 - using internal log ... disconnected dir inode 46144142, moving to lost+found disconnected inode 46170775, moving to lost+found corrupt inode 46170775 (btree). This is a bug. Please report it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] cache_node_purge: refcount was 1, not zero (node=0x82e8af8) fatal error -- 117 - couldn't iget disconnected inode nimrodel:~ # It's on bugzilla. No response. :-( - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG5ojJtTMYHG2NR9URAm3jAJ9E3fYCRZIh5JWjc5gyTzLsV9azdwCgiqMX GqngF+W1oMqnLoh1UvoNu/Q= =CbbN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Questions for Partitioning guru's - Solved
On Monday 10 September 2007 23:50, which is late night, Rajko M. wrote and now has to explain: ... The 'cfdisk' is dependable program and easy to use, but that's not all, there is 'sfdisk' too :-) Looks like 'fdisk', but it is better, than 'parted'. The 'sfdisk' looks like 'fdisk', but it is better. Than we have parted as another partitioning tool, that is installed by default. AFAIK parted is used by YaST. ... Thanks again guys and all ideas welcome on dividing up that 167GB before I commit. Adding partitions in empty space after already partitioned space is not risky, at least not more than any partitioning. The only operation that requires precision is if you resize partition that is between 2 others. The only advice that you need is to have in mind that you have 6 more left. So maximum 5 partitions of 10 GB for experimental systems, and the rest for archive where you can store iso files, backups, virtual machine images etc. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ext3 vs Reiser FS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-09-11 at 08:44 +0100, Fergus Wilde wrote: I hope I haven't missed this elsewhere, but I'd be interested to know if there are special reasons why you've used ext3 on / and xfs on your other Linux partitions - just as a pointer next time I'm setting up a disk. Ext3 is very stable, standard, and easy to repair: a good choice for root.. Xfs has good tools for imaging a partition for backup, for instance. Good for /home. Just look at the available tools: xfs xfs_bmap xfs_copy xfs_freezexfs_info xfs_logprint xfs_ncheckxfs_repairxfsinfo xfs_admin xfs_check xfs_dbxfs_growfsxfs_io xfs_mkfilexfs_quota xfs_rtcp - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG5oo0tTMYHG2NR9URAopSAJ43qgoadwN4SOg7fbtrbmxRzfHRQACcCgtc i936nvYVKx0esOEOJ69uibs= =Zi0+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Questions for Partitioning guru's - Solved
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-09-11 at 00:15 -0400, Bob S wrote: cfdisk will do it !! Thanks so much ! All the remaining 167GB of free space. I had never heard of cfdisk and was afraid of what I would do so I studied the man page over and over and then tried it. It will work. (Wonder why Yast partitioner won't?) What it will do is create sda10 a logical partition of 167GB of all remaining free space which I am assuming will push the extended partion out to the end of the disk. I didn't do it because I am afraid to do it on my running system ( a concern?) and I didn't want a partition of that huge size, and I don't see (yet) a way to create several smaller partitions. Can that be done in cfdisk? I suppose I could go to the yast partitioner and resize it. but that may make the extended partition shrink. I dunno yet. But I am very happy that I have that space back for when I go to install 10.3. I think you can safely create that big partition, and then, if you want, delete it in Yast and create smaller partitions. This should not shrink the extended partition again (usual disclaimers apply, blah, blah, blah). Notice: beware of adding too many partitions! If you have more than 16 you will not be able to install suse 10.4 (yes, that's a four). - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG5oxttTMYHG2NR9URAiWsAJ9SMLYPIgZ9SR965saUIyTaJmOllACfYA36 +73+yhkvETbwXzAuj0sxjvE= =IRqJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Questions for Partitioning guru's - Solved
On 2007/09/11 14:39 (GMT+0200) Carlos E. R. apparently typed: Notice: beware of adding too many partitions! If you have more than 16 you The correct statement is more than *15*, as 15 are supported by SCSI, while 16 are not. will not be able to install suse 10.4 (yes, that's a four). I believe your statement probably is based upon http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2007-08/msg01646.html but what that says is that the legacy drivers *may* no longer be included in 10.4, *not* that installing to a disk possessing more than 15 partitions will be impossible (as is the case in Fedora as of v7). -- It yet remains a problem to be solved in human affairs, whether any free government can be permanent, where the public worship of God, and the support of religion, constitute no part of the policy or duty of the state in any assignable shape. Chief Justice Joseph Story Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: IDE for Mono
On Tuesday 11 September 2007 01:14, G T Smith wrote: Kai Ponte wrote: On Sunday 09 September 2007 03:25, Eberhard Roloff wrote: Kai Ponte wrote: I'm getting kind of tired of fighting Java for one of my apps. Since most of my staff is C# trained, I'm thinking it is time to switch and leverage their knowledge. Anybody know of a good IDE for Mono? I know there's the MonoDevelop editor, but I've yet to find an IDE out there. http://www.gotmono.com/docs/ide/eclipse.html Oh, that's funny! I actually started the project I'm doing in Eclipse, but gave up because the tool didn't have a GUI editor and the third-party tool I was attempting to use (http://www.windowbuilderpro.com/) would crash always in Linux. Am I right in thinking that the problem with Java was no GUI editor in Eclipse... That is correct - there is (or was) no GUI editor in Eclipse. (not sure about the latest versions but this a bit of a problem in earlier versions, as well as the rather indifferent UML support). Bah, I don't do UML. My programmers all think I'm crazy, but I find it a waste of time. insert discussion of programming methods here Actually Netbeans (community edition) does include a GUI editor (I installed this to fill this gap), not really explored this in any depth or recently as what I am currently working on is non-Java and non-GUI. Unfortunately, this is a non-RPM install. Yes, there is a very good GUI editor in Netbeans 5.5 and (forthcoming) 6.0 that let's you build GUI apps for any OS - Mac, Wintendo, Linux, UNIX - with ease. I very much like the GUI editor in Netbeans. Using Visual Basic 3 as my benchmark for ease-of-development, I find Netbeans to be right up there. The only problem I'm having (as described on the Netbeans mailing lists) is the inability to have an item (JLabel) on one form be updated by an item on another form. I was hoping such an item would be easier in mono.net. Maybe not. ? Sorry for the off-topic portions of this post. -- kai ponte www.perfectreign.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] No openSUSE 10.4, was: Questions for Partitioning guru's - Solved
* Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-11-07 08:39]: Notice: beware of adding too many partitions! If you have more than 16 you will not be able to install suse 10.4 (yes, that's a four). Announced yesterday, there will be no 10.4. It will be 11.0, perhaps related to inclusion/upgrade of/to KDE4. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: Gigabyte M61p-s3
Joseph Loo wrote: I just recently bought the Gigabyte M61P-s3 motherboard. I have an x2 AMD processor running on it. I installed opensuse 10.2 on it and found out it will not recognize the ethernet Realtek RTL 8211 and Realtek ALC883 Codec chip (audio). Has anyone found a way to get them to work? or will I have to buy a LAN card and audio card for this computer as the simplest solution? If it is, in fact, an ALC883, then check out the posting I did on Linux Brain Dump. It was for an ALC888 (and for Fedora 7), but I'll bet the process is very similar - download the drivers from Realtek and install them. http://linuxbraindump.org/2007/09/11/adding-realtek-sound-to-fedora/ -- Jonathan Arnold (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) LinuxBrainDump, Linux HowTo's and Tutorials: http://www.linuxbrainddump.org Daemon Dancing in the Dark, an Open OS weblog: http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ext3 vs Reiser FS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-09-11 at 08:08 -0400, Peter Sjoberg wrote: That's one thing that really annoys me. A while ago I changed a production system with about 1.5T storage and since it been over 180 days since last fsck my reboot took almost 1 hour (when I had told the client that a reboot is fast, takes max 15 minutes) Yes, that's a known problem of ext3. In your situation, perhaps reiserfs is not ideal, but you could try xfs. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG5qZHtTMYHG2NR9URAl69AJ9EUXNOWOvDwHch7ZMAR7DLgmNyFgCfclnX 2LGBKu6rz2myQcQOy6+Y12Y= =Itmg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Migration advice sought
I finished building my new computer (look for the series of posting soon to come on Linux Brain Dump) and now I'm wondering what and how to move my current set up over. I'm running openSUSE 10.2, with plenty of apps installed. I figure at the very least, I will copy my ~ folder over, which should get most of my data. But should I install the latest 10.3 beta and hope to be able to upgrade that? Or should I just go with 10.2 and wait for the official upgrade path? And in any case, is there an easy way in YaST to find out what packages I have installed so I can install them on the new machine? -- Jonathan Arnold (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) LinuxBrainDump, Linux HowTo's and Tutorials: http://www.linuxbrainddump.org Daemon Dancing in the Dark, an Open OS weblog: http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Questions for Partitioning guru's - Solved
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-09-11 at 09:12 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: On 2007/09/11 14:39 (GMT+0200) Carlos E. R. apparently typed: Notice: beware of adding too many partitions! If you have more than 16 you The correct statement is more than *15*, as 15 are supported by SCSI, while 16 are not. You are probably right. It is fom 0 to 15, which makes 16; but the 0 is the whole disk. So it must be 15 partitions. However, the 10.3 installer message talks about 16. Perhaps it says 16 or more, but I'd had to reboot in order to check it. will not be able to install suse 10.4 (yes, that's a four). I believe your statement probably is based upon http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2007-08/msg01646.html but what that says is that the legacy drivers *may* no longer be included in 10.4, *not* that installing to a disk possessing more than 15 partitions will be impossible (as is the case in Fedora as of v7). If the legacy drivers are not included, then install and usage are impossible. I'd hug that may, but... It is also confirmed by https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=309070#c11 - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG5qgTtTMYHG2NR9URAl7XAJ4/lhnZFxSomFhDjx6+aIhA1DDoawCffyt7 Z1We0kJZ2X2qv84Kd7GcCzo= =6x4C -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] No openSUSE 10.4, was: Questions for Partitioning guru's - Solved
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-09-11 at 09:19 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Carlos E. R. robin.listas@ [09-11-07 08:39]: Notice: beware of adding too many partitions! If you have more than 16 you will not be able to install suse 10.4 (yes, that's a four). Announced yesterday, there will be no 10.4. It will be 11.0, perhaps related to inclusion/upgrade of/to KDE4. Versionitis! I'd love to see 10.64... :-P - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG5qhbtTMYHG2NR9URAv0OAJ9IZzVtTgk3xwvS+ddQdyTLfynDfACeLrnu hxqKHUAhP9RLQfAT+qRuZZo= =vnca -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] No openSUSE 10.4, was: Questions for Partitioning guru's - Solved
On 9/11/07, Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-09-11 at 09:19 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Carlos E. R. robin.listas@ [09-11-07 08:39]: Notice: beware of adding too many partitions! If you have more than 16 you will not be able to install suse 10.4 (yes, that's a four). Announced yesterday, there will be no 10.4. It will be 11.0, perhaps related to inclusion/upgrade of/to KDE4. Versionitis! I'd love to see 10.64... :-P This is of no relevance ! Until then all CPUs will be 128-bit :) -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Migration advice sought
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-09-11 at 10:30 -0400, Jonathan Arnold wrote: I'm running openSUSE 10.2, with plenty of apps installed. I figure at the very least, I will copy my ~ folder over, which should get most of my data. But should I install the latest 10.3 beta and hope to be able to upgrade that? Or should I just go with 10.2 and wait for the official upgrade path? Definitely, wait. It is your production system: don't take the risk of moving over to a beta. By all means, test the beta, but on a different partition. And in any case, is there an easy way in YaST to find out what packages I have installed so I can install them on the new machine? rpm -q- a - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG5qwctTMYHG2NR9URAtM5AJ4n0QnG2xi6r6hbib61tNGqVtJm7wCglga8 lLk93wm3NX97ise/QOXFniQ= =5e3A -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: Gigabyte M61p-s3
Jonathan Arnold schreef: Joseph Loo wrote: I just recently bought the Gigabyte M61P-s3 motherboard. I have an x2 AMD processor running on it. I installed opensuse 10.2 on it and found out it will not recognize the ethernet Realtek RTL 8211 and Realtek ALC883 Codec chip (audio). Has anyone found a way to get them to work? or will I have to buy a LAN card and audio card for this computer as the simplest solution? If it is, in fact, an ALC883, then check out the posting I did on Linux Brain Dump. It was for an ALC888 (and for Fedora 7), but I'll bet the process is very similar - download the drivers from Realtek and install them. http://linuxbraindump.org/2007/09/11/adding-realtek-sound-to-fedora/ I just got a new PC, with an ALC883 codec on the MoBo. I downloaded the Realtek driver and after compiling/installing it worked. The driver supplied on the CD didn't work (too old I think). It's an Asus P5K MoBo B.T.W. I also tried 10.3Beta3 on it, and then it works 'out of the box'. P.S. anyone knows if the detection of the channels works ? What I mean is with Windows XP one can insert a jack-plug and the system asks what channel it is supposed to be. -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Koenraad Lelong -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Display not working
We've just installed a new server. Normally I will use Xwindows on my PC or laptop, if I need to run any GUI's on a linux server. I just xhost + on my desktop, export my display, and run the GUI. One of our support contractors, wants to ssh, from the console of the new server, to another linux server (both SLES9), and then export his display back to the console of the 1st server - but it does not work. (we did the xhost + permissions on server 1) - what am I missing ? Dirk Moolman Database and Unix Administrator Agility Technologies (HealthCorp) People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use. *** Disclaimer *** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and legally privileged and is intended solely for the addressee and to others who have the authority to receive it. Access to this e-mail by anyone else is unauthorized and as such, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted in reliance on it is unlawful. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately. The views expressed in this e-mail are the views of the individual sender and should in no way be construed as the views of the Company. The Company is not liable to ensure that outgoing e-mails are virus-free. The Company is not liable, should information or data, for whatever reason, be corrupted or fail to reach its intended addressee. The Company is not liable for any loss or damage of whatsoever nature and howsoever arising resulting from the opening or the use of the information in this e-mail, including its attachments and links. The sender of this e-mail is subject to and bound by the terms and conditions of Company’s Electronic Communications Usage Policy. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: Display not working
Dirk Moolman wrote: We've just installed a new server. Normally I will use Xwindows on my PC or laptop, if I need to run any GUI's on a linux server. I just xhost + on my desktop, export my display, and run the GUI. One of our support contractors, wants to ssh, from the console of the new server, to another linux server (both SLES9), and then export his display back to the console of the 1st server - but it does not work. (we did the xhost + permissions on server 1) - what am I missing ? If you are doing ssh, you need to enable X port forwarding (-X). -- Jonathan Arnold (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) LinuxBrainDump, Linux HowTo's and Tutorials: http://www.linuxbrainddump.org Daemon Dancing in the Dark, an Open OS weblog: http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] NVidia after kernel-update
Hi, I just updated my laptop, it installed a new kernel. Now my NVidia-card doesn't work any more. I activated the nv-driver, but I would like the nvidia-one back. I tried to uninstall and re-install, but this didn't work. The download-site seems not to have a new version. Any suggestions before I try compiling from source ? Running 10.1. -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Koenraad Lelong -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Migration advice sought
* Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-11-07 10:57]: rpm -q- a Did you mean: rpm -qa ?? -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [opensuse] Re: Display not working
Thanks Jonathan
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Subject: [opensuse] Re: Display not working
Dirk Moolman wrote:
We've just installed a new server. Normally I will use Xwindows on my
PC or laptop, if I need to run any GUI's on a linux server. I just xhost
on my desktop, export my display, and run the GUI.
One of our support contractors, wants to ssh, from the console of the
new server, to another linux server (both SLES9), and then export his
display back to the console of the 1st server - but it does not work.
(we did the xhost permissions on server 1) - what am I missing ?
If you are doing ssh, you need to enable X port forwarding (-X).
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Re: [opensuse] NVidia after kernel-update
On 9/11/07, Koenraad Lelong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I just updated my laptop, it installed a new kernel. Now my NVidia-card doesn't work any more. I activated the nv-driver, but I would like the nvidia-one back. I tried to uninstall and re-install, but this didn't work. The download-site seems not to have a new version. Any suggestions before I try compiling from source ? Running 10.1. You will need to install it manually. If it was installed with an rpm, uninstall it, and the download nvidia-installer, and run it. You will need to have kernel-sources installed in order for this to work, as it will need to build the kernel module. Read the README on the download page. -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Even the most advanced equipment in the hands of the ignorant is just a pile of scrap. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] NVidia after kernel-update
* Koenraad Lelong [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-11-07 11:14]: I just updated my laptop, it installed a new kernel. Now my NVidia-card doesn't work any more. I activated the nv-driver, but I would like the nvidia-one back. I tried to uninstall and re-install, but this didn't work. The download-site seems not to have a new version. Any suggestions before I try compiling from source ? you need to have installed the kernel-source version to match the new kernel, then reapply the NVidia driver, sh ./NVIDIA-version -a (as root) and follow the prompts as you did before. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ext3 vs Reiser FS
Carlos E. R. wrote: Ext3 is very stable, standard, and easy to repair the worst problem I had was with ext3. But this don't mean ext3 is not reliable.. Whatever you make a file system, failure of electricity at the wrong moment can give loss. non hardware related problems (for example for UPS saved computers) are more important but seems to be very rare... jdd -- http://www.dodin.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Questions for Partitioning guru's - Solved
On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 16:37 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-09-11 at 09:12 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: On 2007/09/11 14:39 (GMT+0200) Carlos E. R. apparently typed: Notice: beware of adding too many partitions! If you have more than 16 you The correct statement is more than *15*, as 15 are supported by SCSI, while 16 are not. You are probably right. It is fom 0 to 15, which makes 16; but the 0 is the whole disk. So it must be 15 partitions. Wrong! sda0 is a partition as well as hda0 is a partition _NOT_ the whole disk. The whole disk would be sda or hda (without the number). -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] xen nad pciback.hide, doesn't survive domU reboot
On Sat, 2007-08-18 at 02:00 -0400, Peter Sjoberg wrote: I'm running OpenSUES 10.2 on a Pentium4 system where I have installed XEN and some guests. One of the guests is a (opensuse 10.2) firewall with 5 NICs. Since we have the limit of max 3 vifs' I'm exporting 2 with help of pciback. This works fine most of the time but sometimes the guest doesn't find the 2 direct exported ports (lspci returns nothing). It seems to never work if I reboot the guest and if I shutdown/create it works most of the time but not always. Done a complete reinstall on a different system with different hardware, only os, config and problem is the same. The other system is a AMD server and the NICs are two dualport e100 where I did a fresh install of OpenSuSE 10.2 (this time x86_64, otherone was 32bit) and a new install of domU. After configuring the pciback and testing reboot I got the same as before, no extra ports after reboot of domU I did compare dmesg after reboto vs after cold boot and found two lines to be interesting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ diff -u dmesg_after_cold-boot dmesg_after_reboot-boot --- dmesg_after_cold-boot 2007-09-11 11:51:05.0 -0400 +++ dmesg_after_reboot-boot 2007-09-11 11:57:27.0 -0400 ... @@ -37,15 +37,13 @@ PCI: System does not support PCI PCI: System does not support PCI NET: Registered protocol family 2 -pcifront pci-0: Installing PCI frontend -pcifront pci-0: Creating PCI Frontend Bus :00 IP route cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 3, 32768 bytes) TCP established hash table entries: 16384 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) TCP bind hash table entries: 8192 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) ... Why doesn't pcifront gets loaded after reboot ??? What loads/initialize pcifront ? /ps What can I do to make sure it always works? Where should I look for the problem ? Config data: On the host (dom0) I have [EMAIL PROTECTED] cat /etc/modprobe.conf.local options pciback hide=(:03:02.1)(:03:03.1) install sunhme /sbin/modprobe pciback ; /sbin/modprobe --first-time --ignore-install sunhme [EMAIL PROTECTED] cat /etc/xen/vm/worf disk = [ 'file:/var/lib/xen/images/worf/hda,hda,w' ] memory = 256 vcpus = 1 builder = 'linux' name = 'worf' # vif = [ 'mac=00:16:3e:00:0f:fb, bridge=xenbr0', 'mac=00:16:3e:00:ac:fb, bridge=xenbr1','mac=00:16:3e:c0:a8:fb, bridge=xenbr2' ] pci=[':03:02.1',':03:03.1'] localtime = 0 on_poweroff = 'destroy' on_reboot = 'restart' on_crash = 'restart' extra = ' TERM=xterm' bootloader = '/usr/lib/xen/boot/domUloader.py' bootentry = 'hda1:/boot/vmlinuz-xen,/boot/initrd-xen' On the guest I configured the network ports with yast lan and after making the MAC static (it changed after each boot) it works whenever the bypassed nics are available. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/modprobe.conf.local options sunhme macaddr=0x08,0x00,0x20,0x00,0x00,0x49 Both host and guest runs a fully patched opensuse 10.2 -32bit -- --- Techwiz, Peter SjobergPGP key (12F506C8) on keyserver homepage Key fingerprint = 3DC2 CEBA 1590 B41A 3780 955A DB42 02BB 12F5 06C8 mailto:peters-opensuse AT techwiz.ca http://www.techwiz.ca/~peters -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Upgrade from 10.3 beta 1 to beta 3
I just installed openSuSE 10.3 beta 1 and I wonder if there is a way to upgrade to beta 3 from the Internet. -- Bogdan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] new hard disk partition
Hello list users: When I create a new partiton on a hard disk (eg /dev/hda2) with cfdisk or fdisk SUSE (currently openSUSE 10.2) won't recognize it and does not insert it's entry in /dev (as /dev/ hda2). For this I have to reboot the system. How can I have suse recognize the new partiton so that I could format it and use it without rebooting? Thanks, IG Utazások Erotikában - Vámos Miklós nemsokára megjelenő regényét előre megrendelheti nálunk. http://ad.adverticum.net/b/cl,1,6022,201702,253867/click.prm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] new hard disk partition
Once you've created the new partition, you can run partprobe and then apply your filesystem of choice. Hope this helps! Mike Kershaw On 9/11/07, Istvan Gabor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list users: When I create a new partiton on a hard disk (eg /dev/hda2) with cfdisk or fdisk SUSE (currently openSUSE 10.2) won't recognize it and does not insert it's entry in /dev (as /dev/ hda2). For this I have to reboot the system. How can I have suse recognize the new partiton so that I could format it and use it without rebooting? Thanks, IG Utazások Erotikában - Vámos Miklós nemsokára megjelenő regényét előre megrendelheti nálunk. http://ad.adverticum.net/b/cl,1,6022,201702,253867/click.prm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ext3 vs Reiser FS
Hello Buddy, This is a link with descriptions of Linux file systems by Novell/SuSE it's not recent but still valid. http://www.novell.com/documentation/suse91/suselinux-adminguide/html/apas02.html Regards, Joop Boonen. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am about to install openSuSE 10.2 on two new computers and see that the 10.2 default file system is ext3 and not Reiser. I'd like some advice as whether to accept the ext3 default or to go with Reiser as I have in the past. I have two 500 GB SATA II drives. My programs do lots of file I/O and can generate files as large as 15-20 GB in some of my scientific applications. Any advice you could give is greatly appreciated. Buddy Coffey Applied Research Associates Computational and Applied Electromagnetics -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Where is libQtGui.so.4
In what package do i find libQtGui.so.4? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Where is libQtGui.so.4
Chris Arnold schrieb: In what package do i find libQtGui.so.4? http://benjiweber.co.uk:8080/webpin/index.jsp?searchTerm=libQtGui.so.4distro=openSUSE_102 Regards, Chris -- http://rauchs-home.de - home of yet another suse repository ;) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ext3 vs Reiser FS
David C. Rankin wrote: Daniel Bauer wrote: On Monday 10 September 2007, Kai Ponte wrote: On Monday 10 September 2007 07:05, Frank Fiene wrote: On Montag, 10. September 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am about to install openSuSE 10.2 on two new computers and see that the 10.2 default file system is ext3 and not Reiser. I'd like some advice as whether to accept the ext3 default or to go with Reiser as I have in the past. reiserfs is dead! Not entirely, Reiserfs 3x is finished and is not going to receive further development. Reiserfs 4x is not complete, *but* the jury is still out on whether, and how much, development is currently taking place. see http://www.namesys.com/v4/v4.html and http://www.namesys.com/install_v4.html No, his wife is. Maybe. Maybe not. Nobody (of us) knows. Having good (well: a lot of) expertise in media I don't believe a single word I read or hear in the news. Regarding reiserfs: I still use it, it survived several sudden power-downs, I'm happy with it, having countless text, photo and tar.gz files from some Kilobytes up to hundreds of MB's. Don't know, if that's very efficient, but it's fast and it works reliably (knock on wood). Me too. I would add 'at least 100' sudden power-downs and I have never lost a single file. Additional Me Too of (knock on wood) I'm just confused by the discussions I read here on this list. But apart from personal beliefs I havn't read a lot of helpful postings in this regard here, regrettably. It sometimes reminds me of the Win-Linux discussions (mine is better than yours, nyaaah nyaaah nyaaah) Well, some were serious, I must admit... Daniel see also: http://linuxgazette.net/102/piszcz.html on the large/small file advantages/disadvantages. This another great Link: http://linuxgazette.net/122/piszcz.html I have used both and for my use I have no complaints about either.. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Upgrade from 10.3 beta 1 to beta 3
On Tuesday 11 September 2007 11:05, Bogdan Cristea wrote: I just installed openSuSE 10.3 beta 1 and I wonder if there is a way to upgrade to beta 3 from the Internet. -- Bogdan You can use update to Factory, but I'm not sure would be that marked as Beta3. Until yesterday update to Factory using YaST was marked as Beta3 (not Factory): # cat /etc/SuSE-release openSUSE 10.3 (X86-64) Beta3 VERSION = 10.3 -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: Upgrade from 10.3 beta 1 to beta 3
Bogdan Cristea wrote: I just installed openSuSE 10.3 beta 1 and I wonder if there is a way to upgrade to beta 3 from the Internet. I think the only way to do an update is to download the two deltas, although I'm not sure if there was a beta 1 - beta 2 delta release. http://en.opensuse.org/Development_Version -- Jonathan Arnold (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) LinuxBrainDump, Linux HowTo's and Tutorials: http://www.linuxbrainddump.org Daemon Dancing in the Dark, an Open OS weblog: http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] packman problem?
I seem to be having a packman repositry problem. I'm getting: File /repodata/repomd.xml not found on media: http://packman.unixheads.com/suse/10.2 And it's true, there is no repomd.xml in that folder. There is a repomd.xml.key, but that's not good enough! Anyone else running into this? -- Jonathan Arnold (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) LinuxBrainDump, Linux HowTo's and Tutorials: http://www.linuxbrainddump.org Daemon Dancing in the Dark, an Open OS weblog: http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] packman problem?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jonathan Arnold wrote: I seem to be having a packman repositry problem. I'm getting: File /repodata/repomd.xml not found on media: http://packman.unixheads.com/suse/10.2 And it's true, there is no repomd.xml in that folder. There is a repomd.xml.key, but that's not good enough! Anyone else running into this? getting problems with the warwick mirror of packman... anorien.warwick.ac.uk ... YaST error a little uninformative but required removal of repositry to get beyond YaST hanging completely... Not really investigated further - -- == I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG5sZ0asN0sSnLmgIRAvTCAJ93SYg1VSIeo/heXy+ZuZQ9l3zyAwCgj0Ss xX9TnBMugJ9QkNP6qRma4Eo= =0Fj+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] packman problem?
Hi, On Dienstag, 11. September 2007, Jonathan Arnold wrote: I seem to be having a packman repositry problem. I'm getting: File /repodata/repomd.xml not found on media: http://packman.unixheads.com/suse/10.2 And it's true, there is no repomd.xml in that folder. There is a repomd.xml.key, but that's not good enough! Known problem: --- snip - Just FYI and because here is as good/bad as anywhere else... The Packman repository is currently broken at least for 10.2 because quota was exceeded on the server (and the repo-md metadata couldn't be generated properly). Will be fixed ASAP. Unfortunately, the mirrors have already rsynced and, well, they're broken too ;) Most mirrors sync every 30min though, which also means it should be fixed everywhere quite quickly. --- snap - (reported earlier today on the opensuse-project list) Greetings from Stuhr hartmut -- Hartmut Meyer, EMEA NTS Business Development Project Manager SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Volker Smid, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg T: +49 4221 5848182 - M: +49 179 2279480 F: +49 4221 6894714 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE® Linux Enterprise 10 - Your Linux is ready http://www.novell.com/linux signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [opensuse] Where is libQtGui.so.4
Rauch Christian wrote: http://benjiweber.co.uk:8080/webpin/index.jsp?searchTerm=libQtGui.so.4distro=openSUSE_102 Nope, i tried that and i always get some dependency problem: rpm -Uvh libqt4-x11-4.3.1-28.1.i586.rpm error: Failed dependencies: libQt3Support.so.4 is needed by libqt4-x11-4.3.1-28.1.i586 rpm -Uvh libqt4-qt3support-4.3.1-28.1.i586.rpm error: Failed dependencies: libQtGui.so.4 is needed by libqt4-qt3support-4.3.1-28.1.i586 Ultimately, i am trying to install libqt4-x11-4.3.1-28.1.i586.rpm. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: packman problem?
Hartmut Meyer wrote: Hi, On Dienstag, 11. September 2007, Jonathan Arnold wrote: I seem to be having a packman repositry problem. I'm getting: File /repodata/repomd.xml not found on media: http://packman.unixheads.com/suse/10.2 And it's true, there is no repomd.xml in that folder. There is a repomd.xml.key, but that's not good enough! Known problem: --- snip - Just FYI and because here is as good/bad as anywhere else... The Packman repository is currently broken at least for 10.2 because quota was exceeded on the server (and the repo-md metadata couldn't be generated properly). Will be fixed ASAP. Unfortunately, the mirrors have already rsynced and, well, they're broken too ;) Most mirrors sync every 30min though, which also means it should be fixed everywhere quite quickly. --- snap - (reported earlier today on the opensuse-project list) Ahh, thanks. So many mailing lists, so little time... -- Jonathan Arnold (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) LinuxBrainDump, Linux HowTo's and Tutorials: http://www.linuxbrainddump.org Daemon Dancing in the Dark, an Open OS weblog: http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] packman problem?
On Tuesday 11 September 2007 11:40, Jonathan Arnold wrote: I seem to be having a packman repositry problem. I'm getting: File /repodata/repomd.xml not found on media: http://packman.unixheads.com/suse/10.2 And it's true, there is no repomd.xml in that folder. There is a repomd.xml.key, but that's not good enough! Anyone else running into this? There is announcement in [EMAIL PROTECTED] by Pascal Bleser: Subject: [opensuse-project] Packman repository for 10.2 broken Just FYI and because here is as good/bad as anywhere else... The Packman repository is currently broken at least for 10.2 because quota was exceeded on the server (and the repo-md metadata couldn't be generated properly). Will be fixed ASAP. Unfortunately, the mirrors have already rsynced and, well, they're broken too ;) Most mirrors sync every 30min though, which also means it should be fixed everywhere quite quickly. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Where is libQtGui.so.4
Am Dienstag, 11. September 2007 schrieb Chris Arnold: Rauch Christian wrote: http://benjiweber.co.uk:8080/webpin/index.jsp?searchTerm=libQtGui.so.4di stro=openSUSE_102 Nope, i tried that and i always get some dependency problem: rpm -Uvh libqt4-x11-4.3.1-28.1.i586.rpm error: Failed dependencies: libQt3Support.so.4 is needed by libqt4-x11-4.3.1-28.1.i586 rpm -Uvh libqt4-qt3support-4.3.1-28.1.i586.rpm error: Failed dependencies: libQtGui.so.4 is needed by libqt4-qt3support-4.3.1-28.1.i586 Ultimately, i am trying to install libqt4-x11-4.3.1-28.1.i586.rpm. This is the classic circular dependency which should be solved , if you intstall all the these packages with one command. Try: rpm -Uvh libqt4-x11-4.3.1-28.1.i586.rpm libqt4-qt3support-4.3.1-28.1.i586.rpm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Display not working
Dirk Moolman wrote: We've just installed a new server. Normally I will use Xwindows on my PC or laptop, if I need to run any GUI's on a linux server. I just xhost on my desktop, export my display, and run the GUI. One of our support contractors, wants to ssh, from the console of the new server, to another linux server (both SLES9), and then export his display back to the console of the 1st server - but it does not work. (we did the xhost permissions on server 1) - what am I missing ? xhost permissions, wow - a blast from the past. I'm not even sure that would work. The X11 display is automagically piggybacked on the ssh connection, so there's no need to go through that other rigamarole. It's a seamless 2 step process: 1. Connect via ssh to the remote server 2. Run the X11 app - it appears on your local display Just make sure the sshd configuration on the remote server is not rejecting the X11 connection. On our servers, the following line can be found in /etc/ssh/sshd_config X11Forwarding yes Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] packman problem?
On Tuesday 11 September 2007 09:40, Jonathan Arnold wrote: I seem to be having a packman repositry problem. I'm getting: File /repodata/repomd.xml not found on media: http://packman.unixheads.com/suse/10.2 And it's true, there is no repomd.xml in that folder. There is a repomd.xml.key, but that's not good enough! There is an issue with the servers. It should have been fixed by now but the mirrors may take a while to update. Stay tuned or switch to the original source. -- kai ponte www.perfectreign.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] No openSUSE 10.4, was: Questions for Partitioning guru's - Solved
On Tuesday 11 September 2007 06:19, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-11-07 08:39]: Notice: beware of adding too many partitions! If you have more than 16 you will not be able to install suse 10.4 (yes, that's a four). Announced yesterday, there will be no 10.4. It will be 11.0, perhaps related to inclusion/upgrade of/to KDE4. Can't wait. I've been hoping for a version of SUSE that is louder than this one. -- kai ponte www.perfectreign.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Questions for Partitioning guru's - Solved
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-09-11 at 12:00 -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote: You are probably right. It is fom 0 to 15, which makes 16; but the 0 is the whole disk. So it must be 15 partitions. Wrong! sda0 is a partition as well as hda0 is a partition _NOT_ the whole disk. The whole disk would be sda or hda (without the number). Wrong, because I'm not refering to that zero, but to the one in the minor number. 8 block SCSI disk devices (0-15) 0 = /dev/sda First SCSI disk whole disk 16 = /dev/sdb Second SCSI disk whole disk 32 = /dev/sdc Third SCSI disk whole disk ... 240 = /dev/sdp Sixteenth SCSI disk whole disk Partitions are handled in the same way as for IDE disks (see major number 3) except that the limit on partitions is 15. So, major 8, minor 0 is sda, and major 8, minor 1 is sda1. Check: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ l /dev/sd* brw-r- 1 root disk 8, 0 2007-09-11 18:55 /dev/sda brw-r- 1 root disk 8, 1 2007-09-11 18:55 /dev/sda1 See? :-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG5s+ytTMYHG2NR9URAox6AKCZYbstDqypwVlCZBqXCDbVVydFmwCgjimS tlgewz0OnlZ4Xz4MWs57XIw= =hbND -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Skype 1.4 on SLED
Is anyone here using SLEd SP1 and skype 1.4? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ext3 vs Reiser FS
Peter Sjoberg wrote: On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 09:01 +0100, G T Smith wrote: As for ext3 until someone fixes the truly appalling performance of the consistency checks (and the default behaviour of firing up those checks periodically), I am sticking with reiser. The checks can be disabled (or the interval can be changed) via tune2fs. That's one thing that really annoys me. A while ago I changed a production system with about 1.5T storage and since it been over 180 days since last fsck my reboot took almost 1 hour (when I had told the client that a reboot is fast, takes max 15 minutes) Experienced admins use the fastboot option under such circumstances. Regards, Th. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] kooka scanner
Dear List
My O/S is SuSE 10.2
As 'user', kooka does not allow me to select scan device.
- but, as root kooka has no problem selecting scan device.
How please, as user, can I get kooka to allow me to select scan device?
[ i have reinstalled kdegraphics3-scan - Kooka, the Scanning Program for
KDE . . . also have used Yast to delete scanner HP PSC 1510, and then
re-installed with Yast . . . but still as User cannot select scan
device { as root there are No Probs} ]
thank you
Riccardo
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Re: [opensuse] Counter needed
Anders Johansson wrote: On Wednesday 05 September 2007 14:00:21 Aaron Kulkis wrote: Jerry Houston wrote: Aaron Kulkis wrote: Linux is not Windows, so kindly quit offering solutions which are most appropriate for that horrific abortion of an O/S. Responses like this make the writer appear to be very young, or very inexperienced with computers, or both. I've been programming since 1980. I'm more than familiar with more than half a dozen distinct operating sytems (and that's counting ALL of Linux and Unix as ONE O/S). I've written operating systems, including a multi-user, multi-tasking one on a mere 8-bit 6809... And your point is? I don't know about his point, but my point is that if the above is really true, you really should spend less time behaving like a sociopathic 8-year old A quick google reveals that you behave like this all over the internet. It really isn't very nice Only towards idiots. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] How do I find out why my server crashed?
Dave Cotton wrote: On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 09:59 +0100, Kevin Thorpe wrote: My server crashed last night and I can't see anything in the logs as to why. I couldn't ssh in so I connected a screen and keyboard, the screen stayed on standby and I couldn't even toggle the caps-lock. I'm thinking that it was a kernel panic but without the screen I don't know what caused it. I can't see anything except a huge gap in the logs so they're no help. Is there anywhere else I can look to try and find out what the problem was so I can stop it happening again? I don't appreciate being dragged out of bed and half-way across the city by our Australian friends who can't go to bed at a sensible time. Big gap in the logs suggests to me no electricity. That would depend on whether the BIOS is set to automatically restart the system on return of power. If it went down and the gap is due to some guy hitting the power button, then the gap is still unexplained although no electricity could still be the logical culprit for the crash in the first place. No electricity is still a good starting point! Does the box have a UPS that communicates with the box? If so, what do the ups logs look like? You are correct that not being able to see the physical screen could be a problem. If it is kernel/harddrive/memory related, the spewing of gibberish and hex codes on the screen can be helpful to have. However, without the screen, without any info from the logs, the probability is high that you will just have to wait until you are dragged out of bed and half-way across the city by [your] Australian friends who can't go to bed at a sensible time. If you can't beat'em join'em, I hear the Aussies are a load of fun to party with, Onya mate! -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ext3 vs Reiser FS
On Monday 10 September 2007 09:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am about to install openSuSE 10.2 on two new computers and see that the 10.2 default file system is ext3 and not Reiser. I'd like some advice as whether to accept the ext3 default or to go with Reiser as I have in the past. I have two 500 GB SATA II drives. My programs do lots of file I/O and can generate files as large as 15-20 GB in some of my scientific applications. Any advice you could give is greatly appreciated. Buddy Coffey Applied Research Associates Computational and Applied Electromagnetics This is long, but maybe it is worth reading: http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~vijayan/vijayan-thesis.pdf it shed more light on commodity file systems. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ext3 vs Reiser FS
Rajko M. wrote: This is long, but maybe it is worth reading: http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~vijayan/vijayan-thesis.pdf it shed more light on commodity file systems. I didn't yet read all, but this seems extremely interesting, thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] kooka scanner
On Tuesday 11 September 2007 13:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear List
My O/S is SuSE 10.2
As 'user', kooka does not allow me to select scan device.
- but, as root kooka has no problem selecting scan device.
How please, as user, can I get kooka to allow me to select scan device?
[ i have reinstalled kdegraphics3-scan - Kooka, the Scanning Program for
KDE . . . also have used Yast to delete scanner HP PSC 1510, and then
re-installed with Yast . . . but still as User cannot select scan
device { as root there are No Probs} ]
thank you
Riccardo
What tells command:
sane-find-scanner
or
scanimage -L
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Re: [opensuse] Counter needed
On Tuesday 11 September 2007 11:14, Aaron Kulkis wrote: A quick google reveals that you behave like this all over the internet. It really isn't very nice Only towards idiots. Aaron - I see you're a COLA regular. 11K posts in November 2000? What - someone using your nym? Or were you going for a netkook award? -- kai ponte www.perfectreign.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Smart developers Way OT
On Saturday 08 September 2007 00:07, Bob S wrote: On Friday 07 September 2007 00:34, M Harris wrote: On Thursday 06 September 2007 23:22, Bob S wrote: Please don't suggest the accessability thing. That is a horror to use. What I do when the eyes are tired and I need a serious font/icon size distortion is to use the ctrl+alt+[+] key to bump the screen resolution--- sometimes even to 800x600 or 640x480 and with a virtual window of 1024x768 or higher. Then I use the mouse to move the window... and I have giant fonts/icons in every application across the board. And since I went to the SyncMaster 226BW wide flat-panel the eyes are strained no longer. Thanks Stan, But the ctrl+alt++ doesn't seem to work in my 10.2. It used to work back several releases ago, but it hasn't worked since at least 10.0 Kai, Thanks for the suggestion but that list is completely useless. I've asked several times on that list and have never received a reply. Seems nobody uses it. Bob S. The fact that you cant change th eresolution is probably due cause the relevant entry is missing in your xorg config file. I noticed that my older systems (9.1, 9.3) has several choices by default. My 10.1 only had a few. If you add the relevant resolutions manually, you ought to get the feature back... This is a snippet from my own file: Section Screen Identifier Screen 1 Device Matrox 1 Monitor Belinea 106030 DefaultDepth 16 Subsection Display Depth 16 Modes 1280x1024 - this is where you add resolutions ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection EndSection You MIGHT need corresponding modelines too, i am not entirely sure about that though... -- /Rikard - email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] web : http://www.rikjoh.com mob:: +46 (0)763 19 76 25 Public PGP fingerprint 15 28 DF 78 67 98 B2 16 1F D3 FD C5 59 D4 B6 78 46 1C EE 56 pgpLaPTDMycUa.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] Counter needed
* Kai Ponte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-11-07 15:01]: On Tuesday 11 September 2007 11:14, Aaron Kulkis wrote: A quick google reveals that you behave like this all over the internet. It really isn't very nice Only towards idiots. Aaron - I see you're a COLA regular. 11K posts in November 2000? What - someone using your nym? Or were you going for a netkook award? Or perhaps the earlier accusation of mail bombing was true? -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] reporting bugs upstream
On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 07:57 -0400, JP Rosevear wrote: On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 08:28 +0200, Pavel Nemec wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, today i again hit problem which is known for long time. If someone report bug which is too - much complicated / no one is able to fix it / package maintainer is overloaded - bug assignee close this bug as WONTFIX and ask reporter to move bug in upstream facility (another bugzilla for example). I understand this (as i was overloaded package maintainer also) but i also thing it is packager responsibility to report bug to upstream and track them here. As I know many others are also not sure about it I am asking here. So what is standard procedure? The procedure we're using in the GNOME and OO groups is to use the keyword should_go_upstream and later one of us or a QA person will move the bug upstream (if its not there already) and mark the bug RESOLVED/LATER. Periodically we'll query to see if the upstream bug status has changed. Not really clear if this is scalable or not yet. Wont it be better to have a common email list (with the QAs part of it) to be created for CCing such bugs so that when the change happens it is notified and the respective QA updates it. -Srini. -JP -- JP Rosevear [EMAIL PROTECTED] Novell, Inc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] kooka scanner
On Tue 11 Sep 2007 18:51, Rajko M. wrote: What tells command: sane-find-scanner or scanimage -L ___ Hello Rajko - thank you as root, have executed: # scanimage -L device `hpaio:/usb/PSC_1500_series?serial=MY5BUDB0FG0498' is a Hewlett-Packard PSC_1500_series all-in-one HOW please can I find this device where I can change its permissions to allow users ? thanks Riccardo -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Questions for Partitioning guru's - Solved
Bob S wrote: On Monday 10 September 2007 01:56, Felix Miata wrote: On 2007/09/09 23:40 (GMT-0400) Kenneth Schneider apparently typed: On Sun, 2007-09-09 at 22:21 -0500, Rajko M. wrote: On Sunday 09 September 2007 22:37 (GMT-0400) Bob S wrote: Here is output of fdisk -l /dev/sda Felix, Rajko, Ken, And all of the other great guys on this list who tried to help. What a great bunch! .snip more older discussion... 2) Run in console as root cfdisk and see what it has to tell. In normal circumstances it doesn't list extended partition at all. The space after 10055 cylinder should be explicitly listed as free. So move highlight down to that line (free space) and try to add more partitions. That certainly should work. I don't think that will work as he has his extended partition ending at 10055 which is where sda9 ends. At this point his only option is to backup sda5-sda9, delete them and then recreate the extended partition using all of the available space. He will then be able to created more partitions. sda4 only ends at 10055 because that's where sda9 ends. sda9's EPBR has no means to tell where the end of the disk is. As soon as sda10 is created, sda4 will magically grow to end where sda10 ends, unless the partitioning tool is broken. Only when a logical partition has been created that includes cylinder 30401 will sda4 show ending at the end of the disk. -- cfdisk will do it !! Thanks so much ! All the remaining 167GB of free space. I had never heard of cfdisk and was afraid of what I would do so I studied the man page over and over and then tried it. It will work. (Wonder why Yast partitioner won't?) What it will do is create sda10 a logical partition of 167GB of all remaining free space which I am assuming will push the extended partion out to the end of the disk. I didn't do it because I am afraid to do it on my running system ( a concern?) and I didn't want a partition of that huge size, and I don't see (yet) a way to create several smaller partitions. Can that be done in cfdisk? I suppose I could go to the yast partitioner and resize it. but that may make the extended partition shrink. I dunno yet. But I am very happy that I have that space back for when I go to install 10.3. Thanks again guys and all ideas welcome on dividing up that 167GB before I commit. Bob S Hi Bob, I am sending this again so it gets on opensuse@opensuse.org I would suggest you go to this site: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php and click this version: gparted-livecd-0.3.4-6 http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=115843package_id=173828release_id=500778 This version can act as a boot cd to boot linux or win. I use this all the time and never had a problem. It is an iso file, you can use k3b to burn a disk image, don't just copy it tp a cd jozien -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Intel 965G and 1680 x 1050
roN wrote: On Sunday 09 September 2007 10:31:16 am David C. Rankin wrote: roN wrote: On Sunday 09 September 2007 07:41:06 am Kenneth Schneider wrote: On Sun, 2007-09-09 at 10:27 -0400, BandiPat wrote: On Sunday 09 September 2007, roN wrote: Hi, Has anyone gotten a resolution of 1680 x 1050 out of an intel 965G chipset? I'm looking for that, out of the box, my opensuse 10.2 only offers 1280 x 1024 which looks somehow wrong...I would appreciate if some one could help me in a way getting my x-server to display 1680 x 1050 pixel on my screen. Thank you! Ron -- snip) Don't know how to add a line for 1680x1050. It looks like sync rates to me i guess i need to find a manual for my screen acer AL2216W. Right? For what should i look in there? Thanks! Wait *Stop* *Read* http://www.geocities.com/stomljen/ I have been through this in great detail and with great pain with opensuse 10.0. (see http://lists.freedesktop.org/pipermail/xorg/2007-April/023179.html) You are *very* luck to be running 10.2 because the 10.2 kernel will support 1680x1050 resolution natively and you will be spared the learning experience of having to build X, Mesa, and Dri/Drm from source. (see http://intellinuxgraphics.org/) The bottom line for you is a 3 step process(qualified with an I'm pretty sure speaking only from 10.0 experience): (1) you will need to download or install from Yast the 915resolution tool; (2) you will follow the instructions to patch a video mode in your video card for 1680x1050 resolution; and but the 915resolution tool wouldn't actually offer 1680x1050. I only got following modes: Mode 30 : 640x480, 8 bits/pixel Mode 32 : 800x600, 8 bits/pixel Mode 34 : 1024x768, 8 bits/pixel Mode 38 : 1280x1024, 8 bits/pixel Mode 3a : 1600x1200, 8 bits/pixel Mode 3c : 1920x1440, 8 bits/pixel Mode 41 : 640x480, 16 bits/pixel Mode 43 : 800x600, 16 bits/pixel Mode 45 : 1024x768, 16 bits/pixel Mode 49 : 1280x1024, 16 bits/pixel Mode 4b : 1600x1200, 16 bits/pixel Mode 4d : 1920x1440, 16 bits/pixel Mode 50 : 640x480, 32 bits/pixel Mode 52 : 800x600, 32 bits/pixel Mode 54 : 1024x768, 32 bits/pixel Mode 58 : 1280x1024, 32 bits/pixel Mode 5a : 1600x1200, 32 bits/pixel Mode 5c : 1920x1440, 32 bits/pixel So I don't know how i should go from here, any other suggestions? Thank you! Sorry so long getting back to you Ron, but I have to pay attention to my real job on occasions. *You* have to make it give you 1680x1050 by patching one of the bios modes! (i.e. You have to change one of the modes with 915resolution to modify the bios and put 1680x1050 in there in place of one of the existing modes.) Pick any mode that you don't use and patch that mode for 1680x1050, say mode (43) for example which is by default (800x600). Recall the required options for setting/patching a mode are: 915resolution [mode] [width] [height] [color-depth] So do this as root: # 915resolution 43 1680 1050 24 Then run 915resolution again to check to see if it worked and you should get: # 915resolution -l Mode 30 : 640x480, 8 bits/pixel Mode 32 : 800x600, 8 bits/pixel Mode 34 : 1024x768, 8 bits/pixel Mode 38 : 1280x1024, 8 bits/pixel Mode 3a : 1600x1200, 8 bits/pixel Mode 3c : 1920x1440, 8 bits/pixel Mode 41 : 640x480, 16 bits/pixel Mode 43 : 1680x1050, 24 bits/pixel Mode 45 : 1024x768, 16 bits/pixel Mode 49 : 1280x1024, 16 bits/pixel Mode 4b : 1600x1200, 16 bits/pixel Mode 4d : 1920x1440, 16 bits/pixel Mode 50 : 640x480, 32 bits/pixel Mode 52 : 800x600, 32 bits/pixel Mode 54 : 1024x768, 32 bits/pixel Mode 58 : 1280x1024, 32 bits/pixel Mode 5a : 1600x1200, 32 bits/pixel Mode 5c : 1920x1440, 32 bits/pixel # Your mode is then patched, you have made the changes to xorg.conf, so just restart X, then if you don't default to 1680x1050, you will then be able to set it in Yast because 1680x1050 will then appear as a resolution option for sax2. I know this stuff can be frustrating, but often it is a forest for the trees issue and once you get it, you will see how simple it is. Good luck again! More information at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=269052 -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Intel 965G and 1680 x 1050
On Tuesday September 11 2007, David C. Rankin wrote: roN wrote: On Sunday 09 September 2007 10:31:16 am David C. Rankin wrote: roN wrote: On Sunday 09 September 2007 07:41:06 am Kenneth Schneider wrote: On Sun, 2007-09-09 at 10:27 -0400, BandiPat wrote: On Sunday 09 September 2007, roN wrote: Hi, Has anyone gotten a resolution of 1680 x 1050 out of an intel 965G chipset? I'm looking for that, out of the box, my opensuse 10.2 only offers 1280 x 1024 which looks somehow wrong...I would appreciate if some one could help me in a way getting my x-server to display 1680 x 1050 pixel on my screen. Thank you! Ron -- snip) Don't know how to add a line for 1680x1050. It looks like sync rates to me i guess i need to find a manual for my screen acer AL2216W. Right? For what should i look in there? Thanks! Wait *Stop* *Read* http://www.geocities.com/stomljen/ I have been through this in great detail and with great pain with opensuse 10.0. (see http://lists.freedesktop.org/pipermail/xorg/2007-April/023179.html) You are *very* luck to be running 10.2 because the 10.2 kernel will support 1680x1050 resolution natively and you will be spared the learning experience of having to build X, Mesa, and Dri/Drm from source. (see http://intellinuxgraphics.org/) The bottom line for you is a 3 step process(qualified with an I'm pretty sure speaking only from 10.0 experience): (1) you will need to download or install from Yast the 915resolution tool; (2) you will follow the instructions to patch a video mode in your video card for 1680x1050 resolution; and but the 915resolution tool wouldn't actually offer 1680x1050. I only got following modes: Mode 30 : 640x480, 8 bits/pixel Mode 32 : 800x600, 8 bits/pixel Mode 34 : 1024x768, 8 bits/pixel Mode 38 : 1280x1024, 8 bits/pixel Mode 3a : 1600x1200, 8 bits/pixel Mode 3c : 1920x1440, 8 bits/pixel Mode 41 : 640x480, 16 bits/pixel Mode 43 : 800x600, 16 bits/pixel Mode 45 : 1024x768, 16 bits/pixel Mode 49 : 1280x1024, 16 bits/pixel Mode 4b : 1600x1200, 16 bits/pixel Mode 4d : 1920x1440, 16 bits/pixel Mode 50 : 640x480, 32 bits/pixel Mode 52 : 800x600, 32 bits/pixel Mode 54 : 1024x768, 32 bits/pixel Mode 58 : 1280x1024, 32 bits/pixel Mode 5a : 1600x1200, 32 bits/pixel Mode 5c : 1920x1440, 32 bits/pixel So I don't know how i should go from here, any other suggestions? Thank you! Sorry so long getting back to you Ron, but I have to pay attention to my real job on occasions. David, Haha no worries, i know this too well. The system I'm working on is at home and i'm now here in the office where i have my system setup with a convenient nvidia graphics card :) No troubles here... *You* have to make it give you 1680x1050 by patching one of the bios modes! (i.e. You have to change one of the modes with 915resolution to modify the bios and put 1680x1050 in there in place of one of the existing modes.) Pick any mode that you don't use and patch that mode for 1680x1050, say mode (43) for example which is by default (800x600). Recall the required options for setting/patching a mode are: 915resolution [mode] [width] [height] [color-depth] So do this as root: # 915resolution 43 1680 1050 24 Then run 915resolution again to check to see if it worked and you should get: # 915resolution -l Mode 30 : 640x480, 8 bits/pixel Mode 32 : 800x600, 8 bits/pixel Mode 34 : 1024x768, 8 bits/pixel Mode 38 : 1280x1024, 8 bits/pixel Mode 3a : 1600x1200, 8 bits/pixel Mode 3c : 1920x1440, 8 bits/pixel Mode 41 : 640x480, 16 bits/pixel Mode 43 : 1680x1050, 24 bits/pixel Mode 45 : 1024x768, 16 bits/pixel Mode 49 : 1280x1024, 16 bits/pixel Mode 4b : 1600x1200, 16 bits/pixel Mode 4d : 1920x1440, 16 bits/pixel Mode 50 : 640x480, 32 bits/pixel Mode 52 : 800x600, 32 bits/pixel Mode 54 : 1024x768, 32 bits/pixel Mode 58 : 1280x1024, 32 bits/pixel Mode 5a : 1600x1200, 32 bits/pixel Mode 5c : 1920x1440, 32 bits/pixel # Your mode is then patched, you have made the changes to xorg.conf, so just restart X, then if you don't default to 1680x1050, you will then be able to set it in Yast because 1680x1050 will then appear as a resolution option for sax2. I know this stuff can be frustrating, but often it is a forest for the trees issue and once you get it, you will see how simple it is. Good luck again! Will try this for sure tonite at home. Looks pretty simple actually, i think i'll find the tree, unless you'll hear from me (well, you'll hear/read from me anyways to say Thank you). Thanks tons for your help, eh! :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] No openSUSE 10.4, was: Questions for Partitioning guru's - Solved
On Tuesday 11 September 2007 08:19, Patrick Shanahan wrote: Announced yesterday, there will be no 10.4. It will be 11.0, perhaps related to inclusion/upgrade of/to KDE4. Have you got a link for that? Thanks. -- After the vintage season came the aftermath - and Cenbe. Glenn Holmer (Q-Link: ShadowM) http://www.lyonlabs.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] No openSUSE 10.4, was: Questions for Partitioning guru's - Solved
* Glenn Holmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-11-07 16:35]: On Tuesday 11 September 2007 08:19, Patrick Shanahan wrote: Announced yesterday, there will be no 10.4. It will be 11.0, perhaps related to inclusion/upgrade of/to KDE4. Have you got a link for that? Thanks. Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:09:41 +0200 From: Stephan Kulow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [opensuse-packaging] Next Steps openSUSE 10.3 Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by mlmmj Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] * Bugs that won't be fixed for 10.3 can be moved to 11.0 in bugzilla now. I suggest to take that option for every bug you're not planning to do an online update later (should be a minority of the current bugs). [...] Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:45:37 +0200 (CEST) From: Jan Engelhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [opensuse-packaging] Next Steps openSUSE 10.3 Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by mlmmj Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sep 10 2007 17:09, Stephan Kulow wrote: * Bugs that won't be fixed for 10.3 can be moved to 11.0 in bugzilla now. I suggest to take that option for every bug you're not planning to do an online update later (should be a minority of the current bugs). No future 10.4? Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:59:14 +0200 From: Ladislav Michnovič [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jan Engelhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [opensuse-packaging] Next Steps openSUSE 10.3 Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by mlmmj Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] No, the next release is 11.0 like 10.0 was after 9.3. It's just numbering convention. Regards Ladislav. and some ensuing conversation. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] No openSUSE 10.4, was: Questions for Partitioning guru's - Solved
On Tuesday 11 September 2007 15:46, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Glenn Holmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-11-07 16:35]: On Tuesday 11 September 2007 08:19, Patrick Shanahan wrote: Announced yesterday, there will be no 10.4. It will be 11.0, perhaps related to inclusion/upgrade of/to KDE4. Have you got a link for that? Thanks. Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:09:41 +0200 From: Stephan Kulow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, I didn't even know about that list. -- After the vintage season came the aftermath - and Cenbe. Glenn Holmer (Q-Link: ShadowM) http://www.lyonlabs.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] IDE for Mono
On 07/09/2007, Kai Ponte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It now has a GUI designer? Oh. That's the sign of an IDE for me. I'll install it and give it another look. the only other thing I'd seen is Stetic (http://www.mono-project.com/Stetic) but haven't seen any examples of real use. That's a rather narrow definition. That would mean early versions of Eclipse are not IDE -- no GUI designer. Even now, the GUI designer (Visual Editor) is optional, and actually is not yet available for the latest release. I'd personally draw the line between programmer's editor and IDE at code completion. Also, IDEs tend to support less languages better, while editors support more languages (easier to write plugins) less well (the plugins offer less features) -- Michel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] windows does not recognize second vfat partition on usb drive, if the first one is ext2 or ext3
Hi, not really a suse question, but I just hit this problem, and decided to ask, as google did not show any pointers: I have a USB flash drive (2G) partitioned with YaST as follows: 1. 100MB ext2 - to install INSERT linux (it needs to install on the first partition) 2. 1.7G vfat (FAT32) - to hold mp3s for my car stereo, as well as to share files (with some win users as well) 3. 200MB encrypted ext3 for my own stuff Now, the problem is, that windows XP can not recognize the vfat partition. It recognizes only the first ext2, and can not access it (of course). I made some tests, and if the vfat partition is the first one, XP is ok, as well as if I have 2 vfat partitions, then XP finds them both. Someone hit this problem? Any solution? And again - sorry for this win problem :( , but my main workstation is suse and I need to use this drive with it (especially the encrypted partition), I need the INSERT boot for my daily work, and from time to time, I need to use this FAT partition with other colleagues/users. Cheers -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Even the most advanced equipment in the hands of the ignorant is just a pile of scrap. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Skype 1.4 on SLED
On 11 Sep 2007 19:52:54 GMT, Chris Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes having problems, can' t get it installed due to dependencies libqt4, dbus 1.0.0. Let me know if you get it installed and what you had to do to get it installed. the install of 1.4 failed for me with a pretty generic dependency failed: there are no installable providers of skype, marking this attempt as invalid (or something close to that). The 1.3 still installs fine. Something interesting though: after installing 1.3, I tried again to install 1.4 - this time no error, just a notice that the packages are already installed. Sounds to me a bit like the RPM may be deficient? Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Migration advice sought
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-09-11 at 11:14 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Carlos E. R. robin.listas@ [09-11-07 10:57]: rpm -q- a Did you mean: rpm -qa ?? Obviously O:-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG5w3ptTMYHG2NR9URAp41AJ41EAQZBynUG+FalgD/kzSuKd3g1gCeKN/Z oefujwXji3a1lsu608qhKNw= =hxWd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ext3 vs Reiser FS
On Mon, 2007-09-10 at 14:30 -0400, Aaron Kulkis wrote: Carlos E. R. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2007-09-10 at 10:03 -0400, bcoffey@ wrote: I am about to install openSuSE 10.2 on two new computers and see that the 10.2 default file system is ext3 and not Reiser. I'd like some advice as whether to accept the ext3 default or to go with Reiser as I have in the past. The reiserfs will likely not get improvements, that's all. If it has worked for you in the past, you can just keep using it as safely as before. I use it. In my experience, reiserfs is not safe. It frequently fails (corruption and/or file loss) in the event of improper shutdown such as power failure or system crash. Conversely, in Iraq, where I experienced frequent power-related shutdowns, and a couple crashes (due to I think, running out of swap space), I never lost a single file using ext3 and xfs. I could be mistaken, but i thought the use of xfs inherrently required the use of a no-break power supply, as it holds more data in mem, Hans -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] kooka scanner
On Tuesday 11 September 2007 03:08:48 pm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue 11 Sep 2007 18:51, Rajko M. wrote: What tells command: sane-find-scanner or scanimage -L ___ Hello Rajko - thank you as root, have executed: # scanimage -L device `hpaio:/usb/PSC_1500_series?serial=MY5BUDB0FG0498' is a Hewlett-Packard PSC_1500_series all-in-one HOW please can I find this device where I can change its permissions to allow users ? That is what 'sane-find-scanner' should list. The device is: /dev/bus/usb/bus/device where bus and device are numbers that you can see with 'lsusb'. With ll /dev/bus/usb/bus/device you should be able to see owner and group. The device number is changing every time you turn device on/off. Changing permissions with 'chmod' is temporary, until next reboot. The change should be done in: /etc/udev/rules.d/ probably 50-udev-default.rules but I'm not sure about exact location for 'hpaio' -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] kooka scanner
On 09/12/2007 07:16 AM, Rajko M. wrote: On Tuesday 11 September 2007 03:08:48 pm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as root, have executed: # scanimage -L device `hpaio:/usb/PSC_1500_series?serial=MY5BUDB0FG0498' is a Hewlett-Packard PSC_1500_series all-in-one HOW please can I find this device where I can change its permissions to allow users ? That is what 'sane-find-scanner' should list. The device is: /dev/bus/usb/bus/device where bus and device are numbers that you can see with 'lsusb'. With ll /dev/bus/usb/bus/device you should be able to see owner and group. The device number is changing every time you turn device on/off. Changing permissions with 'chmod' is temporary, until next reboot. The change should be done in: /etc/udev/rules.d/ probably 50-udev-default.rules but I'm not sure about exact location for 'hpaio' There is a good post on the hplip ML for the permissions checking. Check http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=d868aa60707241117x3de413aax8f7940e5da3c4a7a%40mail.gmail.comforum_name=hplip-help which though is for a newer version hplip (which is available in the build service) provides excellent info. It may need changed in udev rules, or it may need hal-resmgr changes, or both. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.2 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] pthread cleanup handler not called on pthread_cancel and sometimes pthread_exit
Hi, I posted this earlier on opensuse-programming but that list seems to be pretty quiet. So I will give it a try here. Since going to opensuse 10.2 we have found a problem with pthread cleanup handlers not being called on pthread_cancel and under certain conditions on pthread_exit from within C++ programs. The issue is that cleanup handlers put onto a threads cleanup stack via pthread_cleanup_push() should be called when a thread is canceled or exits. In some cases that is not happening. This only appears to be an issue with C++ programs that have exceptions enabled (default). It doesn't happen with C programs or if exceptions are disabled by using -fno-exceptions. This is not a viable solution. The issue is well documented as a glibc bug here: http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4123, so I won't repeat all of the details here. Unfortunately, this is a critical bug and it has been sitting open since March 2 without any visible activity other than my recent activity. Does anyone have suggestions about how to possibly work around this issue or to help move things along? Thanks, -- kr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] IDE for Mono
On 11/09/2007, Michel Salim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 07/09/2007, Kai Ponte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It now has a GUI designer? Oh. That's the sign of an IDE for me. I'll install it and give it another look. the only other thing I'd seen is Stetic (http://www.mono-project.com/Stetic) but haven't seen any examples of real use. That's a rather narrow definition. That would mean early versions of Eclipse are not IDE -- no GUI designer. Even now, the GUI designer (Visual Editor) is optional, and actually is not yet available for the latest release. I'd personally draw the line between programmer's editor and IDE at code completion. Also, IDEs tend to support less languages better, while editors support more languages (easier to write plugins) less well (the plugins offer less features) Even vim has code completion http://benjiweber.co.uk/screenshots/omnicomplete2.png . Does that make it an IDE? ;) _ Benjamin Weber -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] IDE for Mono
On Tuesday 11 September 2007 17:27, Benji Weber wrote: ... Even vim has code completion http://benjiweber.co.uk/screenshots/omnicomplete2.png . Does that make it an IDE? ;) IDEs are expressions of their author's approach to software development. Nothing more, nothing less. You agree with the IDE author, you like the IDE. You disagree with the author, you don't like the IDE. I have yet to see an exception to this pattern. _ Benjamin Weber Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
