[opensuse-factory] ppc factory not being updated?
The ppc packages have not been updated since 11/25/07. What is the problem? Thanks, Toni --- Toni Harbaugh-Blackford Advanced Biomedical Computing Center (ABCC) National Cancer Institute More new features than ever. Check out the new AIM(R) Mail ! - http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/text.htm?ncid=aimcmp000501 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Problem booting a new hard drive with openSUSE 10.3
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 02:25 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2007-12-03 at 13:07 -, Sid Boyce wrote: That would be a step a long way back in time. I thought slicing and dicing a separate /boot partition went out with the need for steam trains, when PC BIOS restrictions meant you couldn't boot from a partition extending beyond the first 1024 cylinders. Saying that is as if the politicians say that there is no need for protection or that your job and savings are secure :-P The theory is that you do not need a separate boot partition. However... the truth is that in some scenarios it does help, and my xtall ball tells me this /may/ be one of those cases. AFAIK, /boot can not be put in an LVM. everything else can. hw - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] ppc factory not being updated?
Hello, Toni Harbaugh-Blackford wrote: The ppc packages have not been updated since 11/25/07. What is the problem? Good question. But even if it was updated, you could not install it, see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343731 Now it is resolved, so I hope to see an update soon :-) Bye, CzP - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Migration Assistant
Hello all! Ubuntu came with nice feature called Migration Assistant. It helps user to migrate documents and settings from another OS present on system. Currently it supports Windows (XP and Vista) and Linux. We imagined that it would be nice feature to have also in SUSE, so I began investigating it. MA is set of command line utilities [1] and GUI frontend. Ubuntu's frontend is tightly connected with their installer and can be seen for example here [2]. [1] http://launchpad.net/migration-assistant/ [2] http://www.michaellarabel.com/?k=blogi=83 I built command line utilities in Build Service using some patches from Mandriva and me, but the hardest task was to implement GUI that can be used in SUSE. I was deciding between Qt application and YaST module. Finally I decided for second option, because that way it can be easily integrated into our installation process. After some hours and help from Martin Vidner (thanks!) I finished this YaST module and put it together with cmd-line tools into BuildService. I'm aware that this YaST module has bugs in it (it was my first YaST module ever) and command line utils are not at their best also. :) But please, if you are interested in this tool (and have for example dual-boot with Windows or use more Linux instances on your computer), I would be really glad if you test this piece of software and I'll be looking forward to your feedback. Patches are of course welcome! :) Sources are available from BuildService project home:prusnak:migration, where you can also find RPM packages built for your SUSE distribution: https://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=home%3Aprusnak%3Amigration http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/prusnak:/migration/ One known bug and you probably should be aware of it: tools import data into /home/$USER , so YaST module should not be run as root. (Running as root will import data into /home/root). I will deal with this later and maybe solve this probably by adding combobox to select user in YaST when running module as root. I would like to rewrite command line utilities from scratch, using C++ in future. Currently they are written in pure C and the code is pretty difficult to extend. I plan to use some kind of interfaces which will allow to write import plugins. Also support for migrating system wide settings could be nice (for example, various config files from /etc or registry, copying binary wifi driver from Windows into ndiswrapper), but MA can import only user settings right now. I'm open to any of your ideas! :) -- Best Regards / S pozdravom, Pavol RUSNAK SUSE LINUX, s.r.o Package MaintainerLihovarska 1060/12 PGP 0xA6917144 19000 Praha 9, CR prusnak[at]suse.czhttp://www.suse.cz - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Migration Assistant
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 17:58 +0100, Pavol Rusnak wrote: Hello all! Ubuntu came with nice feature called Migration Assistant. It helps user to migrate documents and settings from another OS present on system. Currently it supports Windows (XP and Vista) and Linux. We imagined that it would be nice feature to have also in SUSE, so I began investigating it. MA is set of command line utilities [1] and GUI frontend. Ubuntu's frontend is tightly connected with their installer and can be seen for example here [2]. [1] http://launchpad.net/migration-assistant/ [2] http://www.michaellarabel.com/?k=blogi=83 I built command line utilities in Build Service using some patches from Mandriva and me, but the hardest task was to implement GUI that can be used in SUSE. I was deciding between Qt application and YaST module. Finally I decided for second option, because that way it can be easily integrated into our installation process. After some hours and help from Martin Vidner (thanks!) I finished this YaST module and put it together with cmd-line tools into BuildService. I'm aware that this YaST module has bugs in it (it was my first YaST module ever) and command line utils are not at their best also. :) But please, if you are interested in this tool (and have for example dual-boot with Windows or use more Linux instances on your computer), I would be really glad if you test this piece of software and I'll be looking forward to your feedback. Patches are of course welcome! :) Sources are available from BuildService project home:prusnak:migration, where you can also find RPM packages built for your SUSE distribution: https://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=home%3Aprusnak%3Amigration http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/prusnak:/migration/ One known bug and you probably should be aware of it: tools import data into /home/$USER , so YaST module should not be run as root. (Running as root will import data into /home/root). I will deal with this later and maybe solve this probably by adding combobox to select user in YaST when running module as root. I would like to rewrite command line utilities from scratch, using C++ in future. Currently they are written in pure C and the code is pretty difficult to extend. I plan to use some kind of interfaces which will allow to write import plugins. Also support for migrating system wide settings could be nice (for example, various config files from /etc or registry, copying binary wifi driver from Windows into ndiswrapper), but MA can import only user settings right now. I'm open to any of your ideas! :) I love it when people see a need and immediately set out and do something about it. Excellent work! --Jonathon Robison signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [opensuse-factory] Help Wanted: Move YaST tutorials from forgeftp.novell.com to openSUSE WIKI
On Tuesday 04 December 2007, Rajko M. wrote: http://en.opensuse.org/YaST_Printer for example, why is not the printer page under YaST/modules/printer??? don't !! looks like making several subpages levels is not that good (see other thread) Which thread are you referring to? and this was just an example Done. You can see wiki: recent changes. Daniel made quite some effort to bring all related pages presented in the same way. That it gives some of us headache is another question. We have to establish new guidelines, so that at least frequent editors do all in the same way. That is a good idea. Then we need to define what we agree on first. Wiki is no more little pet that can be moved around at will, Well you can - at least I did :) But I had an idea behind and wanted to get at least some structure for our YaST pages. Before that everything was floating around and was not linked anywhere. Now as the pages are organized we got a navigation bar for free, so you can navigate through the levels. And as authors have to think of where to put his new page they should be motivated to link it from the level above and add links (eg. in See also section) on pages of the same level (if applicable). I regard this as a major feature to help people find the information they need. If pages are lost in the nowhere (only can be found by full text search) without links this does not help anybody. and it is still growing, thanks to guys like Daniel that are not afraid of work. Ciao, Daniel -- J. Daniel Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE Linux Products GmbH Research Development Maxfeldstr. 5 GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) D-90409 Nürnberg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] switch to Factory from 10.3
Stanislav Visnovsky pecked at the keyboard and wrote: download.opensuse.org was being updated. If you update zypper first, you should be able to use a new, highly experimental feature in zypper: 'zypper dup' - distribution upgrade algorithm available from zypper. This one is more suitable for following Factory, as it also includes handling of package renames, architecture changes etc. If you are going to try it out, please, report how it went. Thanks! Stano Just tried zypper dup and received an error: Downloading: media * Downloading [100%] Problem downloading the package file from the repository: Media source http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/ does not contain the desired media Perhaps factory is being updated: 11:33PM zulu -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Help Wanted: Move YaST tutorials from forgeftp.novell.com to openSUSE WIKI
On Tuesday 04 December 2007 03:28:23 pm J. Daniel Schmidt wrote: don't !! looks like making several subpages levels is not that good (see other thread) Which thread are you referring to? In opensuse-wiki: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-wiki/2007-12/msg1.html One of ideas is to reduce usage of subpages. Please see if you can come up with some idea(s). -- Regards, Rajko - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] zypper from 10.3 to 10.2
Is it possible to have zypper and yast from 10.3 working on 10.2? Does it have any special requirement? -- Kind Regards Visitá/Go to http://www.opensuse.org
Re: [opensuse-factory] Problem booting a new hard drive with openSUSE 10.3
Viljo Mustonen wrote: Sid Boyce kirjoitti: Carlos E. R. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2007-12-02 at 19:04 -, Sid Boyce wrote: When I boot from 10.3 x86_64 DVD or from the ext3 drive, I can mount the jfs partition, also chroot works. In rescue mkinitrd also says the jfs module is included. I may try with jfs in front of ext3 in case it's due to a race condition. I think you need a small /boot partition in ext2 format. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. That would be a step a long way back in time. I thought slicing and dicing a separate /boot partition went out with the need for steam trains, when PC BIOS restrictions meant you couldn't boot from a partition extending beyond the first 1024 cylinders. If the partition is ext3, reiserfs or anything else, it doesn't matter and I suspect jfs wouldn't be that immature. Having said that, there is a gremlin in there somewhere. Perhaps later this week I shall try a new 10.3 jfs install on a relative's box currently running 10.0, we have a spare 160G IDE drive sitting there ready. This problem exist also ext3 - reiserfs change, perhaps in every file system change. Man mkinitrd tels: What should you do if the initrd is broken and you want to fix it using a chroot? I assume /mnt is your target root and /boot is mounted inside. 1. mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev 2. chroot /mnt 3. mount /proc 4. mount /sys 5. mkinitrd This worked in my 32 bit system. Old times it was much simpler. :) -- Viljo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, I shall give that a try. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Problem booting a new hard drive with openSUSE 10.3
Carlos E. R. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2007-12-03 at 13:07 -, Sid Boyce wrote: That would be a step a long way back in time. I thought slicing and dicing a separate /boot partition went out with the need for steam trains, when PC BIOS restrictions meant you couldn't boot from a partition extending beyond the first 1024 cylinders. Saying that is as if the politicians say that there is no need for protection or that your job and savings are secure :-P The theory is that you do not need a separate boot partition. However... the truth is that in some scenarios it does help, and my xtall ball tells me this /may/ be one of those cases. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. Worth a try, using parted and squeezing /dev/sdb3 as /boot. Thandk and Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] [OT] British time
On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 17:35 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote: On Monday 03 December 2007 16:57, Carlos E. R. wrote: The Monday 2007-12-03 at 16:05 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote: ... from Illinois driving up to Wisconsin on weekends to party. Finally, in part under pressure from Illinois citizens and legislators, Wisconsin changed its drinking age to 21 for all alcoholic beverages. Here (Spain) the... how do you say? the age to be of age? Ok, they are adults at 18, for all things: driving, drinking, voting, owning property, marrying, going to prisons (as inmates)... I believe there are some exceptions, like heavy load, dangerous substances (like gasoline), driving, that require two or three years of previous heavy load driving, I think. You can not drive a car not being of age, not even accompanied. Well, among the many ways in which the U.S. of A. (the best damned country ever or even possible, of course) is ... confused is the age of majority vs. the age at which one can legally purchase and consume alcohol. The age of majority, at which one is deemed able to give full consent, vote and be held to (almost) all standards of adulthood is 18. But one may not buy alcoholic beverages until one reaches age 21. What's more, we allow judges to decide whether minors may be tried (and sentenced) in criminal proceedings as adults. In fact, the age of majority in the U.S. was lowered from 21 to 18 under the argument that if you could be conscripted into military service at age 18, you should be made a full member of society at the same time. We've since suspended (though not truly eliminated) the draft, but the age of majority remains 18 and the legal drinking age remains 21. (Neuroscience, by the way, is now discovering that many parts of the brain, including those associated with moral agency, do not mature fully until one's later 20s!) And a few years back there was no minimum drinking age. Well, everyone knows Europeans countries and peoples are, as societies, adults, while the U.S.A. remains at best an adolescent. An adolescent with too much money, a charge card and very dangerous toys... Who knows how to classify the officially theocratic states... -- Cheers, Cheers indeed, Bottoms up! No matter how old some people get, they'll neve become adults. Or, watching the news, large groups of people have attended drinking parties and killed off half of their braincapacity. hw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] [OT] British time
Randall R Schulz wrote: There used to be ongoing vehicular carnage in the zone between southeastern Wisconsin and northeaster Illinois with kids from Illinois driving up to Wisconsin on weekends to party. Finally, in part under pressure from Illinois citizens and legislators, Wisconsin changed its drinking age to 21 for all alcoholic beverages. There's a similar flow along the causeway from Saudi to Bahrain on a Thursday night but the cars are all Mercedes, the occupants are older and the bars have more gold plate. Not sure how much carnage afterwards; there are hotels for sleeping it off. Cheers, Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] lvm on raid
Hi all, Followed the thraid on raid, and thought to have another spin at it, Read the pointers how install SL on soft-raid and lvm-on-raid. In the example the make two raid-devices, md0 and md1 md0 is used for root and md1 is the physical volume for the lvm. However, from yast, during install, after creating md1, you can either format the md1, with the options of ext2,ext2,swap,vfat,etc etc. Or choose not to format. But here, it is not possible to choose to label it with lvm Did I miss something (the obvious option) or is there something missing in Yast?? HW -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Any news on SiS SATA problem
On Monday 03 December 2007 23:37:44 Greg Freemyer wrote: On Dec 3, 2007 6:14 PM, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 03 December 2007 19:43:48 Greg Freemyer wrote: On Dec 3, 2007 2:00 PM, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Each kernel update gets me excited as I hope they will have solved the problem of openSUSE 10.3 being unable to see SATA hard-drives with certain SATA chipsets (SiS being one of them). I have just upgraded to 2.6.22.13-0.3-default, but my second (SATA) drive is still unusable :( Fortunately, my other drive is EIDE. Does anyone know when a patched kernel will be available? -- Bob Bob, I think in general that SIS Sata controllers are supported. See http://linux-ata.org/features.html which is for the vanilla kernel and is about 6 or 9 months old I think. That's an interesting website, which I didn't know about. Did you file a bugzilla with Novell and try to get it resolved? Not me, but see bug 331610 Greg Very strange, That bug discusses a non-recognized HD, but Tejun Heo's final answer is that the ATAPI support needs a major update. ATAPI is typically used for optical media (CD/DVD), so I have no idea how he came to that conclusion. Maybe there is something wrong in the ATAPI support that is breaking normal hard disk support. Do you have a CD/DVD drive you could try to disconnect and see if acts as a workaround? I'll try that when the machine is next down. FYI: I've seen Tejun Heo posting a bunch of ATAPI fixes to the vanilla kernel sata support list so he is definitely working on the problem and it is not a SUSE caused problem. Instead it appears to be a problem in vanilla that Tejun has picked up as his own. I don't remember him working on ATAPI support much prior to this recent spate of patches he has posted. If curious, see http://marc.info/?l=linux-idem=119634686727783w=2 and the 14 associated patches he posted that day. I was curious, but didn't understand a word of it :( ! I'm glad Tejun's working on it. I think you're right about the problem being in the vanilla kernel, and not just a SUSE problem, as I've heard other distros are having the same problem. It's odd, as SATA has been around for a while, now. It's not critical here, but it would be nice to get my 250GB back :) Bob -- Bob openSUSE 10.3, Kernel 2.6.22.13-0.3-default, KDE 3.5.8 Intel Celeron 2.53GB, 2GB DDR RAM, nVidia GeForce 7600GS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Reset settings for - Open With.. Remember application association..
Am Mon, 03 Dec 2007 10:15:11 -0500 schrieb Aaron Kulkis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You associated the folder with amarok, not the mp3's. No, he associated the file-type directory with amarok. hi! i think this is exactly, what 'williamkow' didn't unterstand :) -- // Jonas de Buhr // IVV5 Universitaet Muenster -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] vmware and fake scsi devs
Bob S wrote: On Monday 03 December 2007 10:09:38 pm Cristian Rodríguez wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: It seems there is one major downside to all the disks being called scsi devices in 10.3. There is no downside, error or annoyance, it is just a well known change.. did you read the release notes ? http://www.suse.com/relnotes/i386/openSUSE/10.3/RELEASE-NOTES.en.html#09 I'm sorry Cristian, but there is a downside, and a big annoyance. By being limited in the partitions available. Especially with the huge drives that are available today, That is a very big downside. Not only that, when I installed 10.3, it renamed my other two IDE drives, and changed their order. Really !!! Why ? I know, I know !! There was a big discussion on this list about that awhile back. We patiently await fixing the partition limitation. Soon? I hope ? Bob S What happens if you use LVM? Are you still limited to 15 partitions? -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] vmware and fake scsi devs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2007-12-03 at 21:53 -1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: after re-reading the release notes i can see that libata can be disabled, thanks:) Only for 10.3, in version 11 this workaround might disappear. That's their intention :-( That would imply that all fake sdx references would have to be changed to hdx , no? But what comes next? I can manually change the grub and fstab entries, also some samba and nfs shares in yast, perhaps a few more configs, but there are many other references in many many other files, how can that be dealt with after the fact? would a symlink or three do it? No, a symlink would not work. You should change all the references to device independent ones, like label, id, or uuid (not sure if all are valid). Nowhere should you have references like hda or sda. In vmware... no idea. in 10.2 we had usbfs and smbfs as sources of similar anguish. is SuSe/linux big enough to dictate changes like that almost arbitrarily? Please note, i am not talking about technical merits... Unfortunately, it's not suse alone, it's all of them (developers). - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHVUHmtTMYHG2NR9URAnv5AJ9uEvJP4khyIt0G/6NavQ05thilcwCffUnY zZ0X8N2lAdbm12YPhQypzpo= =sJEC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] vmware and fake scsi devs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-12-04 at 06:21 -0500, James Knott wrote: Bob S wrote: back. We patiently await fixing the partition limitation. Soon? I hope ? What happens if you use LVM? Are you still limited to 15 partitions? I guess not. By the way: it is not 15, it is 14: remember that the extended partition (the container) counts as one. But using LVM implies repartitioning everything. I don't see it as a solution. Developpers are very keen in pushing the scsi thing as a fit for everybody solution, regardless of the problems it causes :-( - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHVUABtTMYHG2NR9URAm4RAJ9nk51N+k4lDMSjzDFh5xHhtwf5/ACfXpJu wuGZc6SXBQbtSHDqMnned/I= =mMgt -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] lvm on raid
However, from yast, during install, after creating md1, you can either format the md1, with the options of ext2,ext2,swap,vfat,etc etc. Or choose not to format. But here, it is not possible to choose to label it with lvm Hi Hans, I did this same procedure a few weeks ago, and this is how I remember it: First you create the md1, and there is no need to format it. Then back in the partitions _main_ menu, you choose LVM, and add md1 to a volume group. (system, for example) Then you create lvm logical volumes, and format _those_. Hope this helps, Mourik Jan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Call for testers
Hello everybody, during the openSUSE Packaging Day(s) [1] last weekend, I 'created' several packages. It was a very nice atmosphere in the channel and I felt people were very helpful to each other. I would like to express a big thank you at this place to all participants! I would like to get some testing on them, so I can start moving them to some more prominent places (especially out of home:). the packages are: * Misfit Model 3D (3D modeling) As requested by Beineri... I have no clue what that product should be able to do (it starts at mine). So please: give it a test run and if you tell me it's ok, we'll try finding a nice place for it * Nautilus Image Converter (from the gnome-wish list) A very nice small addon for Nautilus (resize / convert images with right clicks). It works (I have it installed myself), but more testing is always welcome. - I would somehow like to see this in GNOME:Community or GNOME:Stable, opting even for Distro inclusion. * KCometen3 (OpenGL KDE Screen saver / ready. Thank you Dirk!) As requested by Beineri. He made a short test and it seemed ok for him. I lack KDE, so I can't test myself. * FreeCol (games-wish list / ready) A nice looking game. With some test reports, I will move it to games:strategy:turn-based * Comix (gnome-wish list / ready.. tester needed!) Was a request from the Gnome Wishlist. I have no CBR files and can thus not test much. The program starts though. Testers and feedback wanted please. * Tomboy-Reminder 0.9 (gnome-wish list / not compatible with tomboy = 0.7.2 thus only package for OS 10.2) This PlugIn for Tomboy was packaged. But only for openSUSE 10.2. Tomboy changed the interface with Version 0.7.2, and they do not have Plugins anymore. They now have Addins. So I'll try to get in touch with the original Author to see if there is an update available / planned. Testing is welcome here too * Super Maryo Chronicles (games-wish list) That one was a nasty chicken: packaging did not cause much trouble (sound addon is missing yet), but on start it segfaulted. The problem was localized in the used libdevil 1.6.8rc2 library (copied from games:libs) and a patch was added to that library. So if you should wish to test this game, please make sure to take libdevil also from my home: repo! After the lib will be updated in games:libs (maintainer contacted already), I will move the game to games:arcade So now, where can you find all those goodies? Head right over to [2] Thanks for your valuable testing time! Dominique [1] http://en.opensuse.org/Packaging/Packaging_Day [2] http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/dimstar:/packagingday/ -- Sorry for the disclaimer coming now. TMF is a global management and accounting outsourcing firm with 77 offices in 60 countries and over 2,000 professionals (2007). TMF is expanding rapidly throughout the world. Learn more about our unique network and our services and visit our website at www.tmf-group.com. The information contained in this e-mail communication is confidential and solely intended for the person to whom it is addressed. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to notify the sender and to destroy the original e-mail communication. TMF is neither liable for the correct and complete transmission of the information contained in this e-mail communication nor for any delay in its receipt. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been checked for the presence of computer viruses. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: save rpm files from online update
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-12-04 at 07:21 +0200, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote: ... Here here. I REALLY hope they bring back the function to save RPMs and patches with the YOU tool. A proxy in all theory might work but it would require a separate box and or HDD in the current machine. A better option is to provide a YAST GUI to set up a software store/repository on an existing fs, perhaps under /home as most people keep, or at least should keep, a backup of this folder. Yes, the option to save the downloaded rpms is a must have for quite some people. Then, there are people without internet connection, but sometimes they can go to somewhere else and download things; the problem is how to know what to download ensuring there will be no dependencies problem. We were thinking of that in the Spanish list the other day: a chap has connection at the job, not at home. The idea would be, for instance, to create something on an external usb disk with the repos metadata. Yast or something would analyze it and create a list of things to download, with paths. Another day the usb disk would be filled in and this time yast could run from the repo on disk. The working alternative is to download the whole repo. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHVT0VtTMYHG2NR9URAmm6AKCEtLeneq3A1tQJcYAn5QQdDE9PHwCcCm4Q DD6oHczA7QwVNhCLwcFCfbY= =N1AE -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: vmware and fake scsi devs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-12-04 at 08:02 +0100, Eberhard Roloff wrote: Cristian Rodríguez wrote: Bob S escribió: By being limited in the partitions available. Especially with the huge drives that are available today. LVM exists in order to preserve mental sanity in such setups. How does this permit to use more sdx devices than libata allows? I guess they propose we reformat everything as a huge LVM thing, which we then break up into smaller partitions, inside the LVM. That does not solve my problem and posses new problems. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHVT7UtTMYHG2NR9URAimYAJ45dgMJsar7W0g5JyuV24xlVRSSowCfbiZo i3pRt2NRWUPsJonRENJ6X/k= =kQly -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [opensuse] vmware and fake scsi devs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Content-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Tuesday 2007-12-04 at 00:09 -0300, Cristian Rodríguez wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: It seems there is one major downside to all the disks being called scsi devices in 10.3. There is no downside, error or annoyance, it is just a well known change.. did you read the release notes ? http://www.suse.com/relnotes/i386/openSUSE/10.3/RELEASE-NOTES.en.html#09 Nothing about vmware in there. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHVUC1tTMYHG2NR9URAohaAJ9RdweYF6SRGvQ6WpEtmNpmgXAqIQCbB1me tv+B2L7sPfYrQcCh+Fk+9i4= =wAkI -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [opensuse] Simpler forum for OpenSUSE?
Randall R Schulz pecked at the keyboard and wrote: On Monday 03 December 2007 20:22, Ken Schneider wrote: ... And remember, on this list the only stupid question is the one that *isn't* asked. You insult the multitude of questions I have not asked! Just think of how stupid I feel! :-) What did you way was the purpose of this list?? Answering smart questions. :-) -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Amarok update won't update
Hi, I did security updates to all offered updates on my new 10.3 install. All went well except the Amarok update does not seem to update. I've tried it alone several times and it shows to be updating with suse updater, but afterwards it still remains in the suse updater as a new update with version 4492-0. Yast shows installed version at 1.4.7-37-4. The only repositories I have selected so far are Main non-oss, main oss, and Main Update Repository, not packman or video yet. This has not occurred on 2 other machines, only one. Thanks for any pointers. Jim F -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] vmware and fake scsi devs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-12-04 at 01:51 -0300, Cristian Rodríguez wrote: LVM exists in order to preserve mental sanity in such setups. Per your own documentation: Warning ] Using LVM might be associated with increased risk, such as data loss. ] Risks also include application crashes, power failures, and faulty ] commands. Save your data before implementing LVM or reconfiguring ] volumes. Never work without a backup. http://localhost/usr/share/doc/manual/opensuse-manual_en/manual/sec.yast2.system.lvm.html Nice... proposing LVM as a workaround for multiple partitions, when multiple partitions are often used as a safety precaution to limit damage. :-/ - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHVUN9tTMYHG2NR9URAr7AAJ9Eb5o5C1vbIYI8NfVwnC2v05xRsACeKdea EdDaeie7sLjnt/r7RWYXC5g= =EkVg -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [opensuse] [OT] British time
jpff wrote: Ken == Ken Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ken Carlos E. R. pecked at the keyboard and wrote: Babies were given one of those rubber things to suck and shut up (I don't know the English name) Ken pacifier That is the American name; in English it is called a Dummy I thought that referred to the president. ;-) -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] swap not available
Hi, On my new 10.3 install I set up 2 drives in raid1 mirror, using software raid in yast. All seems to be working fine except in Kinfocentermemory swap is shown as not available. Yast shows swap with an * beside it. My partitions are set up as follows: primary /dev/md0 /boot extended /dev/md1 /swap /dev/md2 / /dev/md3 /home /dev/md4 /share I'm not that familiar with tweaking swap and have only set it up in yastpartitioner before with no previous problems. This is my first raid setup so there may be an issue with that, but again, all others partitions are working fine. I tried editing swap in yast to format it again as /swap but it failed with an error code -3004. Anyone know what this problem may be? Many thanks, JIm F -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [opensuse] OpenSUSE 10.3 benchmarking revisited
|-Original Message- |From: nordi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 3. desember 2007 19:36 |To: suse |Subject: [opensuse] OpenSUSE 10.3 benchmarking revisited | |The current version of openSuse 10.3 easily outscores the GM version. Tanks for the update,Nordi, maye it is time to try 10.3 then. Is there any plan to refresh the GM, so we do not need to patch up so much. Redhat updates their distro CDs/DVDs from time to time. |However, comparing results to 10.0 shows that overall, the |performance of the base system is still not as good as it |could be, at least in this benchmark. Suse 10.0 still scores |higher in most areas. Since the syscall test scores are ~12% |lower than in 10.0, it seems logical that the slowdown is due |to the kernel. It would be interesting to see if the vanilla |kernel suffers from the same slowdown or if this is specific to Suse. If you look at the repositories you can find nightly build kernels you can test, They are mostly vanilla + default suse kernel settings http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/dipe/openSUSE_10.3/ (just remember the relevant kernel-source :-) I've not yet updated to 10.3 but for 10.2 they all have worked fine when I've upgraded apart from standard kernel related gotchas, like nvidia-drivers, mb-chipsets, but all those problems have been easily resolved searching the net. -- MortenB -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Software updater Suse 10.1 still shows update available after update has been performed.
Ed McCanless wrote: Well, yes. I this case, Audacity was everything. The update was a package, going from Installed version 1.3.4-1.pm.beta-x86_64 to Available version 1.3.4-2.pm.beta-x86_64. Thanks, -ED- Finally broke down and allowed updater to update audacity. It apparently made no changes, but the update available message went away. -ED- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Starting apps automatically in console session - SOLVED
Aaron Kulkis wrote: Stephan Hegel wrote: Hi all, Thanks for the feedback, especially Randall's hints for generalization. Also, I've added already a few lines of code to check if dcop is installed and executable. The best way to learn shell scripting is by looking at other shell scripts which do similar sorts of things. Absolutely! I personally have great difficulty without seeing examples. -ED- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] vmware and fake scsi devs
I've been following this thread and have a question. Why are you running your VMWare instances on raw partitions versus image files on a filesystem? We use VMWare a bit over here and found that using image files gives us more flexibility in with our VMs(portable, easily duplicatable). Also, we use LVM on top of md RAID1 volumes(using libata) here and have found them to be quite stable and have good performance. Plus you then also get the flexibility to resize partitions as needed (with some some restrictions, of course). -jc -- J.C. Polanycia Information Technology Services University of Colorado -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] swap not available
On Tuesday 04 December 2007 06:46:03 Matthew Stringer wrote: On Tuesday 04 December 2007 12:48:46 Jim Flanagan wrote: Hi, On my new 10.3 install I set up 2 drives in raid1 mirror, using software raid in yast. All seems to be working fine except in Kinfocentermemory swap is shown as not available. Yast shows swap with an * beside it. My partitions are set up as follows: primary /dev/md0 /boot extended /dev/md1 /swap /dev/md2 / /dev/md3 /home /dev/md4 /share I'm not that familiar with tweaking swap and have only set it up in yastpartitioner before with no previous problems. This is my first raid setup so there may be an issue with that, but again, all others partitions are working fine. I tried editing swap in yast to format it again as /swap but it failed with an error code -3004. Anyone know what this problem may be? Many thanks, JIm F Try running swapon -s and see if the device is listed. Also, cat /proc/mdstat. Your swap device should show up in the swapon -s command. It should show up in mdstat but may be listed as (auto-read-only). I had a similar issue on one of my hosts and ended up having to change the boot flags. I edited /boot/grub/menu.lst and changed the item resume=/dev/md1 to noresume. This disables the ability to hibernate the machine, but allowed my swap to work properly. Hope this helps. -jc -- J.C. Polanycia Information Technology Services University of Colorado -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.3 install trouble
Dave Howorth wrote: I'm trying to install 10.3 on a 4-year old 32-bit machine. I don't do enough installs to remember all the gotchas, so it's always a fraught process if anything goes wrong :( I blew a 10.3 DVD, verified it and ran the installer. It all went happily and eventually started installing the packages so I went home and left it to it. This morning I came in to find Missing operating system on the screen. Which means it's messed up the MBR? I had a poke in the BIOS but don't see anything that looks odd. I've now found a page that I hope tells me the steps to fix this (I'll post a link if it works). But (a) why is it broken and (b) why is there no install troubleshooting how-to (or at least nobody's told me of one)? The easy to do fix was as documented here: http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Howto_repair_boot_manager_Grub_on_opensuse_10.3#Manual_repair_on_the_command_line Cheers, Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] swap not available
On Tuesday 04 December 2007 12:48:46 Jim Flanagan wrote: Hi, On my new 10.3 install I set up 2 drives in raid1 mirror, using software raid in yast. All seems to be working fine except in Kinfocentermemory swap is shown as not available. Yast shows swap with an * beside it. My partitions are set up as follows: primary /dev/md0 /boot extended /dev/md1 /swap /dev/md2 / /dev/md3 /home /dev/md4 /share I'm not that familiar with tweaking swap and have only set it up in yastpartitioner before with no previous problems. This is my first raid setup so there may be an issue with that, but again, all others partitions are working fine. I tried editing swap in yast to format it again as /swap but it failed with an error code -3004. Anyone know what this problem may be? Many thanks, JIm F I don't normally SoftRAID the swap partitions as it would be faster just to have multiple ones instead (you're not limited to one). Have you tried tryping swapon /dev/md1 to see if it starts working? Matthew -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.2 - Fortran compilation very slow through NFS network with a 64bit server and 32bit clients.
Thanks a lot gentlemen for all your suggestions... I played a little bit with the rsize and wsize options for the nfs clients and I made some test on the network speed with some dd commands. The best results for the clients were obtained with rw,soft,rsize=8192,wsize=8192 To test the writing speed, I execute the following command several time on the client in order to have an average. The /home is mounted through nfs. time dd if=/dev/zero of=/home/testfile bs=16k count count=4096 This command creates a 64Mo file containing only 0 on the /home, at the speed of 70 MB/sec. This is not exceptional indeed... Network speed remains slow despite the rsize and wsize options and the required time to link my object files is still dramatically high! To test the reading speed (the /tmp mounted locally on the nfs client): time dd if=/home/testfile of=/tmp/tesfile bs=16k This gave a speed of 295 MB/sec, much more compared to the writing speed. Can this difference be explained and corrected somehow? I would also like to mention that I did not have this slow linking problem with my former Linux distribution (Mandriva 2006), and configured with the same nfs options. So there still must be a problem with my SuSE network configuration somewhere. Anyway, I tried to compile and link my object files locally on a nfs client, keeping my source code on the /home mounted through nfs. The results is quite nice! Now, the linking process is straightforward (less than 1 second) and I do not have time to go and take a coffee any more as before ;-) I will adopt this solution and continue with the rw,soft,rsize=8192,wsize=8192 options for the nfs clients. Thanks a lot again... I hope I will be able to help you one day as well... Cheers, Michel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] swap not available
Jim Flanagan wrote: I tried editing swap in yast to format it again as /swap but it failed with an error code -3004. If i understand it well mount point in partitioner for partitions formatted as swap should be swap not /swap. Kind regards Philippe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] swap not available
Philippe Landau wrote: Jim Flanagan wrote: I tried editing swap in yast to format it again as /swap but it failed with an error code -3004. If i understand it well mount point in partitioner for partitions formatted as swap should be swap not /swap. Kind regards Philippe there is no mount point for swap, swap is never mounted, it doesn't contain any file system jdd -- http://www.dodin.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] lvm on raid *solved(
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 12:43 +0100, mourik jan heupink wrote: However, from yast, during install, after creating md1, you can either format the md1, with the options of ext2,ext2,swap,vfat,etc etc. Or choose not to format. But here, it is not possible to choose to label it with lvm Hi Hans, I did this same procedure a few weeks ago, and this is how I remember it: First you create the md1, and there is no need to format it. Then back in the partitions _main_ menu, you choose LVM, and add md1 to a volume group. (system, for example) Then you create lvm logical volumes, and format _those_. Hope this helps, Mourik Jan Yes, tnx, it did For other readers: Got two 10GB drives (old machine) Boot with 10.3, 32-bit DVD From yast, partitioner: Custom partitioning (delete everything) Create, sda, primary, no-format, ID=0xFD (raid) start=0 end=100MB Create, sdb, primary, no-format, ID=0xFD (raid) start=0 end=100MB Raid, generate, raid-1 (some might select raid-0 or raid-5) add sda1, sdb1 (md0) format with ext2, Mount-Point = /boot Create, sda, primary, no-format, ID=0xFD (raid) start=0 end=100MB Create, sdb, primary, no-format, ID=0xFD (raid) start=0 end=100MB Raid, generate, raid-1 (some might select raid-0 or raid-5) add sda2, sdb2 (md1) No format, Mount-Point == EMPTY (default is /usr) No need to set something to file-id LVM. (finds it automagically) Select LVM, add physical volume md1 Create /, swap, /usr, /home (what ever you need) . Tnx agn, hw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] swap not available
Matthew Stringer wrote: On Tuesday 04 December 2007 12:48:46 Jim Flanagan wrote: Hi, On my new 10.3 install I set up 2 drives in raid1 mirror, using software raid in yast. All seems to be working fine except in Kinfocentermemory swap is shown as not available. Yast shows swap with an * beside it. My partitions are set up as follows: primary /dev/md0 /boot extended /dev/md1 /swap /dev/md2 / /dev/md3 /home /dev/md4 /share I'm not that familiar with tweaking swap and have only set it up in yastpartitioner before with no previous problems. This is my first raid setup so there may be an issue with that, but again, all others partitions are working fine. I tried editing swap in yast to format it again as /swap but it failed with an error code -3004. Anyone know what this problem may be? Many thanks, JIm F I don't normally SoftRAID the swap partitions as it would be faster just to have multiple ones instead (you're not limited to one). Have you tried tryping swapon /dev/md1 to see if it starts working? Matthew Running swapon /dev/md1 returns invalid argument. I looked at swapon --help but am unsure which option I should choose. Jim F -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] My 10.2 machine stopped booting
Hi All, I have a machine which has been happily running 10.2 since it came out, and earlier versions before that. Just this week is has stopped booting. It gets as far as writing GRUB on the screen then apparently locks up, pressing NumLock doesn't toggle the LED etc. It boots just fine off the 10.2 install CD and from that I can get into rescue mode, mount the root filesystem (hda2) on /mnt, chroot to that, then run grub-install '(hd0)' which says it has succeeeded, the device map looks OK etc. etc. However, on rebooting it still gets stuck at GRUB. I've tried booting off the 10.2 CD into install mode then choosing repair installed system. Neither the Full Automatic Repair nor expert mode / reinstall bootloader options have helped. They do confirm that the machine is basically fine other than boting. Repair reports that all filesystems are sound, all necessary packages are present and correct and indeed, booting into rescue mode I can have a look around and see everything apparently as it should be. Any suggestions should be welcomed. Many thanks, Chris R. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: [OT] British time
On Tuesday 04 December 2007 01:57, Carlos E. R. wrote: Here (Spain) the... how do you say? the age to be of age? Ok, they are adults at 18, for all things: driving, drinking, voting, owning property, marrying, going to prisons (as inmates)... I believe there are some exceptions, like heavy load, dangerous substances (like gasoline), driving, that require two or three years of previous heavy load driving, I think. You can not drive a car not being of age, not even accompanied. I got my first driving license at 14 in Arkansas. -- Jim Hatridge Linux User #88484 Ebay ID: WartHogBulletin -- WartHog Bulletin Info about new German Stamps http://www.WartHogBulletin.de Many Enemies -- Much Honor! Anti-US Propaganda stamp collection http://www.manyenemies-muchhonor.info An American in Bavaria http://www.gaubodengalerie.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] swap not available
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 09:06 -0600, Jim Flanagan wrote: Jc Polanycia wrote: On Tuesday 04 December 2007 06:46:03 Matthew Stringer wrote: On Tuesday 04 December 2007 12:48:46 Jim Flanagan wrote: Hi, On my new 10.3 install I set up 2 drives in raid1 mirror, using software raid in yast. All seems to be working fine except in Kinfocentermemory swap is shown as not available. Yast shows swap with an * beside it. My partitions are set up as follows: primary /dev/md0 /boot extended /dev/md1 /swap /dev/md2 / /dev/md3 /home /dev/md4 /share I'm not that familiar with tweaking swap and have only set it up in yastpartitioner before with no previous problems. This is my first raid setup so there may be an issue with that, but again, all others partitions are working fine. I tried editing swap in yast to format it again as /swap but it failed with an error code -3004. Anyone know what this problem may be? Many thanks, JIm F Try running swapon -s and see if the device is listed. Also, cat /proc/mdstat. Your swap device should show up in the swapon -s command. It should show up in mdstat but may be listed as (auto-read-only). I had a similar issue on one of my hosts and ended up having to change the boot flags. I edited /boot/grub/menu.lst and changed the item resume=/dev/md1 to noresume. This disables the ability to hibernate the machine, but allowed my swap to work properly. Hope this helps. -jc swapon -s shows one line like this Filename Type SizeUse Priority with nothing else listed below. cat /proc/mdstat does show md1 as active (auto-read-only) Do you mean replace resume=/dev/md1 with noresume? Also, while at this point I don't envision hibernating this machine, you never know. Is there a different fix without disabling hibernate? Will subsequent grub installs pick up this noresume flag? Many thanks, Jim F What does the swap partition look like in /etc/fstab? You can type 'cat /etc/fstab | grep swap' and paste the results here. -- ---Bryen--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] swap not available
On Dec 4, 2007, at 10:06 AM, Jim Flanagan wrote: error code -3004 You haven't defined any swap space it seems. Swap space is space reserved on your hard drive for the machine to use for paging out of memory. It is defined in the partition manager as a FILESYSTEM TYPE which is named swap. If you have chosen this you will never be allowed to choose a mount point for it since by definition there isn't one, the box for mount point will also be greyed out. My advice would be to delete your current swap partition (/swap) and recreate a new correct swap partition. Cheers Todd Smith Systems Administrator - Soho VFX - Visual Effects Studio 99 Atlantic Avenue, Suite 303 Toronto, Ontario, M6K 3J8 (416) 516-7863 http://www.sohovfx.com - -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] swap not available
Jc Polanycia wrote: On Tuesday 04 December 2007 06:46:03 Matthew Stringer wrote: On Tuesday 04 December 2007 12:48:46 Jim Flanagan wrote: Hi, On my new 10.3 install I set up 2 drives in raid1 mirror, using software raid in yast. All seems to be working fine except in Kinfocentermemory swap is shown as not available. Yast shows swap with an * beside it. My partitions are set up as follows: primary /dev/md0 /boot extended /dev/md1 /swap /dev/md2 / /dev/md3 /home /dev/md4 /share I'm not that familiar with tweaking swap and have only set it up in yastpartitioner before with no previous problems. This is my first raid setup so there may be an issue with that, but again, all others partitions are working fine. I tried editing swap in yast to format it again as /swap but it failed with an error code -3004. Anyone know what this problem may be? Many thanks, JIm F Try running swapon -s and see if the device is listed. Also, cat /proc/mdstat. Your swap device should show up in the swapon -s command. It should show up in mdstat but may be listed as (auto-read-only). I had a similar issue on one of my hosts and ended up having to change the boot flags. I edited /boot/grub/menu.lst and changed the item resume=/dev/md1 to noresume. This disables the ability to hibernate the machine, but allowed my swap to work properly. Hope this helps. -jc swapon -s shows one line like this Filename Type SizeUse Priority with nothing else listed below. cat /proc/mdstat does show md1 as active (auto-read-only) Do you mean replace resume=/dev/md1 with noresume? Also, while at this point I don't envision hibernating this machine, you never know. Is there a different fix without disabling hibernate? Will subsequent grub installs pick up this noresume flag? Many thanks, Jim F -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] swap not available
Matthew Stringer wrote: On Tuesday 04 December 2007 12:48:46 Jim Flanagan wrote: Hi, On my new 10.3 install I set up 2 drives in raid1 mirror, using software raid in yast. All seems to be working fine except in Kinfocentermemory swap is shown as not available. Yast shows swap with an * beside it. My partitions are set up as follows: primary /dev/md0 /boot extended /dev/md1 /swap /dev/md2 / /dev/md3 /home /dev/md4 /share I'm not that familiar with tweaking swap and have only set it up in yastpartitioner before with no previous problems. This is my first raid setup so there may be an issue with that, but again, all others partitions are working fine. I tried editing swap in yast to format it again as /swap but it failed with an error code -3004. Anyone know what this problem may be? Many thanks, JIm F I don't normally SoftRAID the swap partitions as it would be faster just to have multiple ones instead (you're not limited to one). Given one of the goals of RAID is to keep the system running when a drive fails, what happens when a drive containing swap croaks? -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: vmware and fake scsi devs
Jc Polanycia wrote: I've been following this thread and have a question. Why are you running your VMWare instances on raw partitions versus image files on a filesystem? -to use existing installations? -to use an already existing windows without the need to either install again or do a p2v ? -to drastically increase vmware machines' harddisk performance? -because it is possible to do so? We use VMWare a bit over here and found that using image files gives us more flexibility in with our VMs(portable, easily duplicatable). sure. But there is also the reverse side of the coin. regards EbR -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: [OT] British time
Hi I live in the Netherlands, and we can drink beer and buy weed at 16. We have to wait to 18 to drive though. I would say this is a good sequence. The drinking till you drop has been tried before you are allowed to drive a car, and everyone knows where their limits are by then. Most do not care about these limits, but they know the effects of alcohol. Then again: my country is so small you can reach about everyone while walking backwards on your hands on broken glass while blindfolded, so there is no great need to be allowed to drive a car between 16 and 18. I do not know enough of neuroscience to say wether it's wise to drink a shitload at 16. It apears to be wise to be allowed to buy weed. The Carver (something in between a motorcicle and a car) is verry cool and could only be invented in a country where weed is allowed (Top Gear said it). Neil On Dec 4, 2007 4:24 PM, James Hatridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 04 December 2007 01:57, Carlos E. R. wrote: Here (Spain) the... how do you say? the age to be of age? Ok, they are adults at 18, for all things: driving, drinking, voting, owning property, marrying, going to prisons (as inmates)... I believe there are some exceptions, like heavy load, dangerous substances (like gasoline), driving, that require two or three years of previous heavy load driving, I think. You can not drive a car not being of age, not even accompanied. I got my first driving license at 14 in Arkansas. -- Jim Hatridge Linux User #88484 Ebay ID: WartHogBulletin -- WartHog Bulletin Info about new German Stamps http://www.WartHogBulletin.de Many Enemies -- Much Honor! Anti-US Propaganda stamp collection http://www.manyenemies-muchhonor.info An American in Bavaria http://www.gaubodengalerie.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: [OT] British time
On Tuesday 04 December 2007 07:45, Neil wrote: Hi I live in the Netherlands, ... Every year that goes by I regret more and more not accepting the job offer that Philips (Apeldorn) made to me in the late 80s. RRS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] My 10.2 machine stopped booting
On Tue December 4 2007 10:13:54 am [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a machine which has been happily running 10.2 since it came out, and earlier versions before that. Just this week is has stopped booting. It gets as far as writing GRUB on the screen then apparently locks up, pressing NumLock doesn't toggle the LED etc. snip Hi Chris, Do you have any idea why it suddenly stopped booting? Did you make any changes to the system, running updates, installing software, changing/adding hardware, etc., before the problem appeared? regards, Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] in 10.2 two two masters slaves. Now in 10.3 one is missing
On Tuesday 04 December 2007 02:28:14 Patrick Shanahan wrote: /usr/sbin/hdinfo --cdrom /usr/sbin/hdinfo --cdrom bash: /usr/sbin/hdinfo: No such file or directory That is all. No hardware info about the cdrom. Still looking for the d***ed device. It worked up to 10.2 and still boot the 10.3 DVD and any other bootable cd or dvd. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: vmware and fake scsi devs
On Tuesday 04 December 2007 07:32, Eberhard Roloff wrote: Jc Polanycia wrote: I've been following this thread and have a question. Why are you running your VMWare instances on raw partitions versus image files on a filesystem? -to use existing installations? -to use an already existing windows without the need to either install again or do a p2v ? -to drastically increase vmware machines' harddisk performance? -because it is possible to do so? I concur. I have a separate physical drive for my VMware guest (Windows XP) and don't want to impose the non-negligible overhead of using virtual (host file-backed) disk drives. Depending on circumstances, I would make different choices, of course, but when raw performance is a concern (and face it Windows ain't generally snappy to begin with), physical drive access is called for. We use VMWare a bit over here and found that using image files gives us more flexibility in with our VMs(portable, easily duplicatable). sure. But there is also the reverse side of the coin. Exactly. It's a tradeoff. As with most engineering / technical decisions, it can't be made mindlessly, unless you like to live on luck. regards EbR Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: [OT] British time
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 16:45 +0100, Neil wrote: Hi I live in the Netherlands, and we can drink beer and buy weed at 16. We have to wait to 18 to drive though. I would say this is a good sequence. The drinking till you drop has been tried before you are allowed to drive a car, and everyone knows where their limits are by then. Most do not care about these limits, but they know the effects of alcohol. Then again: my country is so small you can reach about everyone while walking backwards on your hands on broken glass while blindfolded, so there is no great need to be allowed to drive a car between 16 and 18. I do not know enough of neuroscience to say wether it's wise to drink a shitload at 16. It apears to be wise to be allowed to buy weed. The Carver (something in between a motorcicle and a car) is verry cool and could only be invented in a country where weed is allowed (Top Gear said it). Neil Perhaps it's time to stop the thread: it makes me thirsty ;-8 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: [OT] British time
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 07:56 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote: On Tuesday 04 December 2007 07:45, Neil wrote: Hi I live in the Netherlands, ... Every year that goes by I regret more and more not accepting the job offer that Philips (Apeldorn) made to me in the late 80s. Don't. If you did accept it, there is a more than fair chance you would be out of a job and got a drinking-habbit It a nice country I live in: Last couple of weeks it was several times in the news that a bunch of yougsters attended a drinking party and went on untill they pass out. Kids of 12 years old. Permanent brain damage. I would almost opt for the Scandinavian mechanism: extremely strict and horrible expensive. hw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] swap not available
jdd wrote: Philippe Landau wrote: Jim Flanagan wrote: I tried editing swap in yast to format it again as /swap but it failed with an error code -3004. If i understand it well mount point in partitioner for partitions formatted as swap should be swap not /swap. there is no mount point for swap, swap is never mounted, it doesn't contain any file system Yast partitioner explicitly lists swap partition mount point as swap, Jim your choosing /swap as mount point could be a source of problems. Kind regards Philippe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: [OT] British time
Randall R Schulz schreef: On Tuesday 04 December 2007 07:45, Neil wrote: Hi I live in the Netherlands, ... Every year that goes by I regret more and more not accepting the job offer that Philips (Apeldorn) made to me in the late 80s. A few years later they decided to lay off their whole computer branch, Randall. Now maybe, if they could have enlisted you ... who knows. :-) -- Jos van Kanregistered Linux user #152704 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] vmware and fake scsi devs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : It seems there is one major downside to all the disks being called scsi devices in 10.3. There are applications that take /dev/scx literally as a scsi disk x. One such application is vmware. This ended being a major problem when i tried to use a raw partition as a physical vmware disk on my laptop. The actual disk is an ide device, but the first partition in my Suse 10.3 install is called /dev/sda1 and that is what it passes to vmware as the actual physical disk. Vmware has for a long time stated that it does not boot from physical scsi devices and thus it keels over when it sees that the raw device is scsi. Is there an easy way to pass the actual partition type to vmware (workstation 4.x or server 1.x) in 10.3 or do i go back to 10.2? thanks, d. Hello, I use VMware with SuSE for years, now it is VMware 6 with openSUSE 10.3 . I always boot VMware with physical SCSI drives and it works ! Furthermore, with VMware you can configure so that the first IDE unit is your sdx drive and it will work. So no problem at all. Michel. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: [OT] British time
Hans Witvliet wrote: On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 07:56 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote: On Tuesday 04 December 2007 07:45, Neil wrote: Hi I live in the Netherlands, ... Every year that goes by I regret more and more not accepting the job offer that Philips (Apeldorn) made to me in the late 80s. Don't. If you did accept it, there is a more than fair chance you would be out of a job and got a drinking-habbit It a nice country I live in: Last couple of weeks it was several times in the news that a bunch of yougsters attended a drinking party and went on untill they pass out. Kids of 12 years old. Permanent brain damage. I would almost opt for the Scandinavian mechanism: extremely strict and horrible expensive. JOOI, I looked this up: http://www.eurocare.org/profiles/index.html http://www.eurocare.org/pdf/profiles/netherlands/netherlands.pdf http://www.eurocare.org/pdf/profiles/norway.pdf http://www.eurocare.org/pdf/profiles/finland.pdf http://www.eurocare.org/pdf/profiles/sweden.pdf http://www.eurocare.org/pdf/profiles/uk.pdf The rate of boozing does seem to be higher in the Netherlands. It's higher even than in the UK, though it did start out a lot lower. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: [OT] British time
On Tuesday 04 December 2007 08:30, Jos van Kan wrote: Randall R Schulz schreef: On Tuesday 04 December 2007 07:45, Neil wrote: Hi I live in the Netherlands, ... Every year that goes by I regret more and more not accepting the job offer that Philips (Apeldorn) made to me in the late 80s. A few years later they decided to lay off their whole computer branch, Randall. Now maybe, if they could have enlisted you ... who knows. :-) OK. I'll relinquish my regret. But wouldn't I have acquired the right to work throughout the EU? I heard there's considerable need for programming talent over there these days. -- Jos van Kan RRS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] in 10.2 two two masters slaves. Now in 10.3 one is missing
Constant Brouerius van nidek pecked at the keyboard and wrote: On Tuesday 04 December 2007 02:28:14 Patrick Shanahan wrote: /usr/sbin/hdinfo --cdrom /usr/sbin/hdinfo --cdrom bash: /usr/sbin/hdinfo: No such file or directory That is all. No hardware info about the cdrom. Still looking for the d***ed device. It worked up to 10.2 and still boot the 10.3 DVD and any other bootable cd or dvd. I believe that should be hwinfo --cdrom (change the d to a w. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Migration Assistant
Hello all! Ubuntu came with nice feature called Migration Assistant. It helps user to migrate documents and settings from another OS present on system. Currently it supports Windows (XP and Vista) and Linux. We imagined that it would be nice feature to have also in SUSE, so I began investigating it. MA is set of command line utilities [1] and GUI frontend. Ubuntu's frontend is tightly connected with their installer and can be seen for example here [2]. [1] http://launchpad.net/migration-assistant/ [2] http://www.michaellarabel.com/?k=blogi=83 I built command line utilities in Build Service using some patches from Mandriva and me, but the hardest task was to implement GUI that can be used in SUSE. I was deciding between Qt application and YaST module. Finally I decided for second option, because that way it can be easily integrated into our installation process. After some hours and help from Martin Vidner (thanks!) I finished this YaST module and put it together with cmd-line tools into BuildService. I'm aware that this YaST module has bugs in it (it was my first YaST module ever) and command line utils are not at their best also. :) But please, if you are interested in this tool (and have for example dual-boot with Windows or use more Linux instances on your computer), I would be really glad if you test this piece of software and I'll be looking forward to your feedback. Patches are of course welcome! :) Sources are available from BuildService project home:prusnak:migration, where you can also find RPM packages built for your SUSE distribution: https://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=home%3Aprusnak%3Amigration http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/prusnak:/migration/ One known bug and you probably should be aware of it: tools import data into /home/$USER , so YaST module should not be run as root. (Running as root will import data into /home/root). I will deal with this later and maybe solve this probably by adding combobox to select user in YaST when running module as root. I would like to rewrite command line utilities from scratch, using C++ in future. Currently they are written in pure C and the code is pretty difficult to extend. I plan to use some kind of interfaces which will allow to write import plugins. Also support for migrating system wide settings could be nice (for example, various config files from /etc or registry, copying binary wifi driver from Windows into ndiswrapper), but MA can import only user settings right now. I'm open to any of your ideas! :) -- Best Regards / S pozdravom, Pavol RUSNAK SUSE LINUX, s.r.o Package MaintainerLihovarska 1060/12 PGP 0xA6917144 19000 Praha 9, CR prusnak[at]suse.czhttp://www.suse.cz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] swap not available
On Tuesday 04 December 2007 15:27:06 James Knott wrote: Matthew Stringer wrote: I don't normally SoftRAID the swap partitions as it would be faster just to have multiple ones instead (you're not limited to one). Given one of the goals of RAID is to keep the system running when a drive fails, what happens when a drive containing swap croaks? Your available swap space would be reduced, doesn't cause the system to fail. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Attempting to remove acroread 7.x -- nspluginwrapper inconsistency
I am using Opensuse 10.3 (64-bit) with MozillaFirefox-2.0.0.11-1.1 (x86_64), nspluginwrapper-0.9.91.5-2.3 (x86_64) and acroread-7.0.9-59 (i586). When I attempt rpm -e acroread, I get the following error: Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-open.c: 623: _dl_open: Assertion `_dl_debug_initialize (0, args.nsid)-r_state == RT_CONSISTENT' failed! error: %trigger(nspluginwrapper-0.9.91.5-2.3.x86_64) scriptlet failed, exit status 127 When I upgraded nspluginwrapper to this current version, I received other inconsistency errors with the same %trigger pointing to nspluginwrapper. This inconsistency error is new to me, and I'm finding many unrelated hits with google. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks -- Timothy Cahill 301 Fulford-Ganges Rd. Salt Spring Island, BC, V8K 2K6 250-537-8409 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] swap not available
On Tuesday 04 December 2007 10:02:45 Matthew Stringer wrote: On Tuesday 04 December 2007 15:27:06 James Knott wrote: Matthew Stringer wrote: I don't normally SoftRAID the swap partitions as it would be faster just to have multiple ones instead (you're not limited to one). Given one of the goals of RAID is to keep the system running when a drive fails, what happens when a drive containing swap croaks? Your available swap space would be reduced, doesn't cause the system to fail. Actually it can cause the system to fail, depending on what was swapped to the device that failed. At the very least applications that had pages swapped to the failed swap device would crash. -jc -- J.C. Polanycia Information Technology Services University of Colorado 303.492.3887 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] vmware and fake scsi devs
On Dec 4, 2007 6:28 AM, Jc Polanycia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been following this thread and have a question. Why are you running your VMWare instances on raw partitions versus image files on a filesystem? We use VMWare a bit over here and found that using image files gives us more flexibility in with our VMs(portable, easily duplicatable). Also, we use LVM on top of md RAID1 volumes(using libata) here and have found them to be quite stable and have good performance. Plus you then also get the flexibility to resize partitions as needed (with some some restrictions, of course). Off topic, as I seldom partition anything (unpartitioned drives perform best), but, you're setting yourself up for disaster using LVM (any corruption to the LVM layer is not recoverable... you'll loose everything... been there done that), and the performance is poor, and MD RAID5/6 devices can be grown (add more disks). Chris -jc -- J.C. Polanycia Information Technology Services University of Colorado -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] swap not available
James Knott wrote: Matthew Stringer wrote: On Tuesday 04 December 2007 12:48:46 Jim Flanagan wrote: Hi, On my new 10.3 install I set up 2 drives in raid1 mirror, using software raid in yast. All seems to be working fine except in Kinfocentermemory swap is shown as not available. Yast shows swap with an * beside it. My partitions are set up as follows: primary /dev/md0 /boot extended /dev/md1 /swap /dev/md2 / /dev/md3 /home /dev/md4 /share I'm not that familiar with tweaking swap and have only set it up in yastpartitioner before with no previous problems. This is my first raid setup so there may be an issue with that, but again, all others partitions are working fine. I tried editing swap in yast to format it again as /swap but it failed with an error code -3004. Anyone know what this problem may be? Many thanks, JIm F I don't normally SoftRAID the swap partitions as it would be faster just to have multiple ones instead (you're not limited to one). Given one of the goals of RAID is to keep the system running when a drive fails, what happens when a drive containing swap croaks? my guess is (for unix or linux) -- kernel panic -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] swap not available
Matthew Stringer wrote: On Tuesday 04 December 2007 15:27:06 James Knott wrote: Matthew Stringer wrote: I don't normally SoftRAID the swap partitions as it would be faster just to have multiple ones instead (you're not limited to one). Given one of the goals of RAID is to keep the system running when a drive fails, what happens when a drive containing swap croaks? Your available swap space would be reduced, doesn't cause the system to fail. All the pages that are swapped out can no longer be swapped back in this can cause a kernel panic. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] swap not available
Jim Flanagan wrote: Hi, On my new 10.3 install I set up 2 drives in raid1 mirror, using software raid in yast. All seems to be working fine except in Kinfocentermemory swap is shown as not available. Yast shows swap with an * beside it. My partitions are set up as follows: primary /dev/md0 /boot extended /dev/md1 /swap /dev/md2 / /dev/md3 /home /dev/md4 /share I'm not that familiar with tweaking swap and have only set it up in yastpartitioner before with no previous problems. This is my first raid setup so there may be an issue with that, but again, all others partitions are working fine. I tried editing swap in yast to format it again as /swap but it failed with an error code -3004. Why are you mirroring swap? It offers no performance advantages, nor any significant data-protection advantages, unless the data being processed is both SUPER-valuable and very-ephemerial (such as data being collected and processed in real time from sensors in a non-repeatable or expensive-to-repeat experiment, or say, you're processing stock-market feeds, in which case 15 minute downtime = $100,000 fine, and significantly more for each additional 15 minutes of downtime. Other than something like that, or life-and-death situations (in which case, you should be using QNX), mirroring swap is both a needless waste of disk space AND also hurts your system's performance for very very little benefit. If you can, I would split that swap mirror into two separate swap partitions, and use both of them independently. Anyone know what this problem may be? Many thanks, JIm F -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] swap not available
Jc Polanycia wrote: On Tuesday 04 December 2007 10:02:45 Matthew Stringer wrote: On Tuesday 04 December 2007 15:27:06 James Knott wrote: Matthew Stringer wrote: I don't normally SoftRAID the swap partitions as it would be faster just to have multiple ones instead (you're not limited to one). Given one of the goals of RAID is to keep the system running when a drive fails, what happens when a drive containing swap croaks? Your available swap space would be reduced, doesn't cause the system to fail. Actually it can cause the system to fail, depending on what was swapped to the device that failed. At the very least applications that had pages swapped to the failed swap device would crash. They won't crash... because they can't resume execution... a process which hits a page that's swapped to a device which no longer functions will simply halt on I/O, waiting forever (literally) for the next page of code or data to get swapped back in. On the other hand, if the kernel has swapped out some data, and can't bring it back, THAT can cause a system crash. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] vmware and fake scsi devs
Chris Worley wrote: On Dec 4, 2007 6:28 AM, Jc Polanycia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been following this thread and have a question. Why are you running your VMWare instances on raw partitions versus image files on a filesystem? We use VMWare a bit over here and found that using image files gives us more flexibility in with our VMs(portable, easily duplicatable). Also, we use LVM on top of md RAID1 volumes(using libata) here and have found them to be quite stable and have good performance. Plus you then also get the flexibility to resize partitions as needed (with some some restrictions, of course). Off topic, as I seldom partition anything (unpartitioned drives perform best), But huge filesystem perform poorly. but, you're setting yourself up for disaster using LVM (any corruption to the LVM layer is not recoverable... you'll loose everything... been there done that), and the performance is poor, and MD RAID5/6 devices can be grown (add more disks). This is why I do NOT used LVM for home use. Basically, I'm not diligent enough in my backups to run the additional risk of LVM corruption. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] vmware and fake scsi devs
On Tuesday 04 December 2007 09:08, Chris Worley wrote: ... Off topic, as I seldom partition anything (unpartitioned drives perform best), What impact do you believe partitioning has on disk performance? I can think of none. ... Chris Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: [OT] vmware and fake scsi devs
Off topic, as I seldom partition anything (unpartitioned drives perform best), but, you're setting yourself up for disaster using LVM (any corruption to the LVM layer is not recoverable... you'll loose everything... been there done that), and the performance is poor, and MD RAID5/6 devices can be grown (add more disks). Chris Fair enough. I appreciate the input because I haven't run across any real-world stories about LVM corruption. I have personally encountered corruption problems with RAID5/6 as well as problems with decreased performance as a RAID5 structure gets more members added to it. Could you please provide me additional information about the circumstances under which you had the LVM layer corrupt? Thanks. -jc -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] swap not available
Matthew Stringer wrote: On Tuesday 04 December 2007 15:27:06 James Knott wrote: Matthew Stringer wrote: I don't normally SoftRAID the swap partitions as it would be faster just to have multiple ones instead (you're not limited to one). Given one of the goals of RAID is to keep the system running when a drive fails, what happens when a drive containing swap croaks? Your available swap space would be reduced, doesn't cause the system to fail. And when it goes to retrieve the contents of that swap that's no longer there? Drives do fail occasionally, when the system is running. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] vmware and fake scsi devs
On Dec 4, 2007 10:16 AM, Aaron Kulkis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Worley wrote: On Dec 4, 2007 6:28 AM, Jc Polanycia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been following this thread and have a question. Why are you running your VMWare instances on raw partitions versus image files on a filesystem? We use VMWare a bit over here and found that using image files gives us more flexibility in with our VMs(portable, easily duplicatable). Also, we use LVM on top of md RAID1 volumes(using libata) here and have found them to be quite stable and have good performance. Plus you then also get the flexibility to resize partitions as needed (with some some restrictions, of course). Off topic, as I seldom partition anything (unpartitioned drives perform best), But huge filesystem perform poorly. Qualify that with on small files. Chris but, you're setting yourself up for disaster using LVM (any corruption to the LVM layer is not recoverable... you'll loose everything... been there done that), and the performance is poor, and MD RAID5/6 devices can be grown (add more disks). This is why I do NOT used LVM for home use. Basically, I'm not diligent enough in my backups to run the additional risk of LVM corruption. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] vmware and fake scsi devs
On Tuesday 04 December 2007 09:28, you wrote: On Dec 4, 2007 10:20 AM, Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 04 December 2007 09:08, Chris Worley wrote: ... Off topic, as I seldom partition anything (unpartitioned drives perform best), What impact do you believe partitioning has on disk performance? I can think of none. Disks have an internal block size that is the minimum they can read and write. The partitioning information at the start of the disk can start your partitions on a non-block boundary. Every write operation of a block becomes the read of two blocks, mask in the data to be written, then a write of two blocks. Utterly false. Partitioning occurs in units of sectors, not bytes or any unit smaller than the 512-byte block that is the addressable unit of all modern hard drives. Chris Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: [OT] vmware and fake scsi devs
On Dec 4, 2007 10:22 AM, Jc Polanycia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Off topic, as I seldom partition anything (unpartitioned drives perform best), but, you're setting yourself up for disaster using LVM (any corruption to the LVM layer is not recoverable... you'll loose everything... been there done that), and the performance is poor, and MD RAID5/6 devices can be grown (add more disks). Chris Fair enough. I appreciate the input because I haven't run across any real-world stories about LVM corruption. I have personally encountered corruption problems with RAID5/6 as well as problems with decreased performance as a RAID5 structure gets more members added to it. I saw some RAID6 issues last year, so I use RAID5... but recent tests have shown MD RAID6 as solid. Decreased performance as more members get added to it? Bull!!! I'm guessing you have another bottleneck that has led you to this conclusion. While the performance increase doesn't scale linearly as disks are added (some CPU verhead is added with each additional drive), the more disks, the better the performance. I'm sure there is some Amdahl's law limit to the increased performance scalability, but I run RAIDS up to 12 drives, and see performance added w/ each new member. Could you please provide me additional information about the circumstances under which you had the LVM layer corrupt? Thanks. It's been too long, so, no, I can't. I vaguely remember something simple being overwritten in the LVM metadata, and there being no method to recover it (except from backup). I had similar issues with ReiserFS. While there were some provisions for recovery, they were insufficient. As FS'es go, Ext3 has the most bullet-proof recovery mechanisms when the metadata has been compromised. Realize that all the layers above the MD device, LVM and whatever FS, add more complexity and therefore decrease performance and reliability. Note that the metadata corruption I'm referring to is not a spindle failure issue: you can corrupt the metadata, and your RAID preserves the corruption! MD device metadata can be recreated if you know the incantation used to initially create the RAID (and it's usually simple enough that you can recreate the RAID on the fly from memory). So, I stick w/ Ext3 and MD. Chris -jc -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] swap not available
On Tuesday 04 December 2007 17:22:24 James Knott wrote: Matthew Stringer wrote: On Tuesday 04 December 2007 15:27:06 James Knott wrote: Matthew Stringer wrote: I don't normally SoftRAID the swap partitions as it would be faster just to have multiple ones instead (you're not limited to one). Given one of the goals of RAID is to keep the system running when a drive fails, what happens when a drive containing swap croaks? Your available swap space would be reduced, doesn't cause the system to fail. And when it goes to retrieve the contents of that swap that's no longer there? Drives do fail occasionally, when the system is running. If you swap over multiple partitions the data is automatically striped, it usually copes OK if a drive blobs Linux is fairly stable these days when it comes to read/write errors. I think you're splitting hairs if you think that sotfRAID1 gives you enough extra stability which outweighs the reduction in performance. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] UK users help
Hello, Any one in the list in the UK? I need to test a webpage a make sure folks in the UK can view it. My apologies for posting this request to the list. If someone knows of a site in the UK that tests DNS or webpages, that would be most helpful. Many thanks, James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] vmware and fake scsi devs
On Tuesday 04 December 2007 02:02:46 am Carlos E. R. wrote: The Monday 2007-12-03 at 21:53 -1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: after re-reading the release notes i can see that libata can be disabled, thanks:) Only for 10.3, in version 11 this workaround might disappear. That's their intention :-( That would imply that all fake sdx references would have to be changed to hdx , no? But what comes next? I can manually change the grub and fstab entries, also some samba and nfs shares in yast, perhaps a few more configs, but there are many other references in many many other files, how can that be dealt with after the fact? would a symlink or three do it? No, a symlink would not work. You should change all the references to device independent ones, like label, id, or uuid (not sure if all are valid). Nowhere should you have references like hda or sda. well, i looked at menu.lst and fstab in my 10.3 for the first time and saw a bunch of brave new things...I guess entropy *must* increase... i will try the hwprobe=-modules.pata in a day or two, but i somehow doubt it will solve my problem and then i will have to decide if i will live w. it or revert to 10.2 . btw, how does grub know about libata before the kernel is loaded and how/does it get modified? In vmware... no idea. vmware has had this scsi/sata problem, now it became an ide/scsi/sata one! maybe they will adapt the disk/by-id thing, who knows? in 10.2 we had usbfs and smbfs as sources of similar anguish. is SuSe/linux big enough to dictate changes like that almost arbitrarily? Please note, i am not talking about technical merits... Unfortunately, it's not suse alone, it's all of them (developers). are we being asked to operate in a vacuum? is new stuff coming out just for the sake of newness? -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. thanks for the insight. now i know more than i wanted! d. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] UK users help
On 04/12/2007, James D. Parra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Any one in the list in the UK? I need to test a webpage a make sure folks in the UK can view it. It might help if you included the link. -- Benjamin Weber -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.3 Screen Resolution problem
Thanks for the reply Todd, Oh yes, I did that several times... (old windows habbit). I restarted the machine also! Each time I change the resolution and try to save it a window comes with Test button. This takes me to a screen that looks like adjusting screen size and position etc, I guess this also restarts the x-server. What else I might be missing? -- Bikram On 12/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My screen resolution is 800x600 54Khz:85Hz even after I change from yast2 (it is showing two other resolutions, 1024x768XGA and 1152x864XGA) none of then seem to work and in the test screen it sticks to 800x600 (In 10.2 I have used higher resolutions). Starting with the simplest solutions first. Many people don't realize that you have to restart the xserver in order to have the new resolution. Have you done this? You can restart the xserver by pressing ctrl+alt+backspace. Cheers Todd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] vmware and fake scsi devs
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 09:20:54 -0800 Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 04 December 2007 09:08, Chris Worley wrote: ... Off topic, as I seldom partition anything (unpartitioned drives perform best), What impact do you believe partitioning has on disk performance? I can think of none. Actually, there are some things you can do to improve performance. A small partition limits the amount of head movement, but only when you are accessing files from that partition. On the other side of the coin, a small partition can become fragmented. While the Linux file systems generally reduce fragmentation, when a partition starts to become full, you get more fragmentation. -- Jerry Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] vmware and fake scsi devs
On Tuesday 04 December 2007 06:33:33 am Catimimi wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : It seems there is one major downside to all the disks being called scsi devices in 10.3. There are applications that take /dev/scx literally as a scsi disk x. One such application is vmware. This ended being a major problem when i tried to use a raw partition as a physical vmware disk on my laptop. The actual disk is an ide device, but the first partition in my Suse 10.3 install is called /dev/sda1 and that is what it passes to vmware as the actual physical disk. Vmware has for a long time stated that it does not boot from physical scsi devices and thus it keels over when it sees that the raw device is scsi. Is there an easy way to pass the actual partition type to vmware (workstation 4.x or server 1.x) in 10.3 or do i go back to 10.2? thanks, d. Hello, I use VMware with SuSE for years, now it is VMware 6 with openSUSE 10.3 . I always boot VMware with physical SCSI drives and it works ! Furthermore, with VMware you can configure so that the first IDE unit is your sdx drive and it will work. So no problem at all. Michel. Michael, in my case i have an ide disk that is being called an scsi device by libata, so vmware does not know how to deal with it, i think... But I i would be very interested in your setup. How do you use the physical drives? Are they dual boot (direct boot and as vms thru vmware)? are the partitions full functioning operating systems when they are selected as vms or are they created after a physical disk is picked in a vm setup and then the os is installed? any other info would also be appreciated. if you think it goes off topic, please email directly. thanks, d. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] swap not available
Matthew Stringer wrote: On Tuesday 04 December 2007 17:22:24 James Knott wrote: Matthew Stringer wrote: On Tuesday 04 December 2007 15:27:06 James Knott wrote: Matthew Stringer wrote: I don't normally SoftRAID the swap partitions as it would be faster just to have multiple ones instead (you're not limited to one). Given one of the goals of RAID is to keep the system running when a drive fails, what happens when a drive containing swap croaks? Your available swap space would be reduced, doesn't cause the system to fail. And when it goes to retrieve the contents of that swap that's no longer there? Drives do fail occasionally, when the system is running. If you swap over multiple partitions the data is automatically striped, it usually copes OK if a drive blobs Linux is fairly stable these days when it comes to read/write errors. I think you're splitting hairs if you think that sotfRAID1 gives you enough extra stability which outweighs the reduction in performance. When you say striped, are you saying redundant info is stored, similar to RAID? If not, then there's no protection. If yes, how does striping differ from software RAID -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] UK users help
On Tuesday 04 December 2007 18:07, James D. Parra wrote: Hello, Any one in the list in the UK? I need to test a webpage a make sure folks in the UK can view it. In the UK, yes. Post your URL. -- Cheers Allister Gearon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Zypper disappeared from panel - boost update bug help from IRC channel #suse
Just want to add that this was solved. I don't know why the SuSE Updater disappeared from the panel, but after reinstalling boost and zypper, it did not come back. I then did a subsequent YOU, and found an interesting unsolvable dependency. I fixed that by adding another repository, but in further looking around, I found that the opensuse-updater-kde package was not installed. Once installed, the updater began working correctly. -- Jerry Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] swap not available
Am Dienstag, 4. Dezember 2007 13:48:46 schrieb Jim Flanagan: On my new 10.3 install I set up 2 drives in raid1 mirror, using software raid in yast. All seems to be working fine except in Kinfocentermemory swap is shown as not available. Yast shows swap with an * beside it. My partitions are set up as follows: primary /dev/md0 /boot extended /dev/md1 /swap /dev/md2 / /dev/md3 /home /dev/md4 /share I'm not that familiar with tweaking swap and have only set it up in yastpartitioner before with no previous problems. This is my first raid setup so there may be an issue with that, but again, all others partitions are working fine. I tried editing swap in yast to format it again as /swap but it failed with an error code -3004. Anyone know what this problem may be? The reason is that suspend/resume from a raid swap partition does not work. You have three options: 1. Do not use a swap partion on raid. This ok, if a crash and a reboot after a failing disk is no problem for you. May be acceptable for Notebooks and desktop systems 2. Remove the resume=/dev/md1 from your kernel option line. Suspend/Resume from does not work. Should be fine for servers. 3. Have two swap partions one without raid for the resume and one with raid for swapping, large enough, that the first one is not really used for swapping (I haven tested this). Cheers Herbert -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] GTK Integration with KDE 4
This is actually more towards Will or any other KDE 4 Developer that has insight on the project. What is the status or thoughts of GTK integration with KDE 4? Will KDE 4.0.0 release just give us an ugly GTK integration? (Right now Firefox is still pretty darn hidious). I know you have bigger fish to fry but with RC2 being recently tagged just wondered if these changes are actually approved or won't be seen until a _dot_ upgrade. Ben -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] BlueFish - Was it worked on during the Package Days
With the merger of the packman and guru repositories we lost the application Bluefish as an RPM. Do we know if anyone worked on this specific package? Really miss this one. Ben -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] ntp can not manage to put the clock in sync.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'm investigating a problem I'm having with the clock getting very slow, and I have traced the problem to something new in opensuse 10.3. I wonder if any body has the same problem - the check is simple, run this grep command: grep time reset /var/log/ntp | less I find: (opensuse 10.2) 23 Feb 02:05:45 ntpd[4617]: time reset +0.624127 s 23 Feb 14:28:52 ntpd[4617]: time reset +0.487172 s 23 Feb 14:49:00 ntpd[4617]: time reset +0.138037 s 23 Feb 22:26:08 ntpd[4617]: time reset +0.243491 s 24 Feb 11:54:28 ntpd[4674]: time reset +0.495337 s 25 Feb 11:56:40 ntpd[4674]: time reset +0.380593 s 27 Feb 11:39:30 ntpd[4674]: time reset -0.169734 s 1 Mar 11:24:29 ntpd[4676]: time reset +0.574879 s ... 1 Nov 11:28:02 ntpd[4669]: time reset +0.493571 s 1 Nov 19:54:33 ntpd[6168]: time reset +0.324889 s 2 Nov 11:56:25 ntpd[6168]: time reset +0.493251 s 2 Nov 14:09:49 ntpd[6168]: time reset +0.761453 s 2 Nov 18:57:50 ntpd[6168]: time reset +0.267648 s 2 Nov 19:19:37 ntpd[6168]: time reset +0.633949 s 3 Nov 15:04:26 ntpd[4993]: time reset +13.963114 s === upgrade 3 Nov 16:14:24 ntpd[4993]: time reset +126.365828 s 3 Nov 19:12:32 ntpd[5051]: time reset +42.074367 s 4 Nov 12:46:09 ntpd[5076]: time reset +22.996088 s 4 Nov 13:32:56 ntpd[5076]: time reset +393.672856 s 5 Nov 13:35:23 ntpd[5163]: time reset +351.141250 s 5 Nov 14:00:25 ntpd[5163]: time reset +318.950445 s 5 Nov 14:50:51 ntpd[5163]: time reset +0.164107 s 5 Nov 19:55:07 ntpd[5163]: time reset +27.860709 s 5 Nov 23:15:44 ntpd[5163]: time reset +436.175607 s You see that the time resets are small when I had suse 10.2, but with 10.3 they jumped in size up to almost 400 seconds. If the error is larger than 1000 seconds, ntp quits: 27 Nov 15:31:56 ntpd[12905]: synchronized to 91.121, stratum 2 27 Nov 15:38:31 ntpd[12905]: synchronized to 192.33, stratum 2 27 Nov 15:39:25 ntpd[12905]: synchronized to 195.55, stratum 2 27 Nov 15:39:40 ntpd[12905]: synchronized to LOCAL(0), stratum 10 27 Nov 16:22:22 ntpd[12905]: synchronized to 84.88, stratum 2 27 Nov 16:22:22 ntpd[12905]: time correction of 1678 seconds exceeds sanity limit (1000); set clock manually to the correct UTC time. The delay was half an hour! I restarted the daemon when I noticed. Nov 27 17:13:53 nimrodel ntpdate[18860]: step time server 212.13 offset 1677.937114 sec Other events - here I have removed these two lines from the config, as a test: server 127.127.1.0 # local clock (LCL) fudge 127.127.1.0 stratum 10 # LCL is unsynchronized 3 Dec 19:11:29 ntpd[29084]: synchronized to 88.191.43.2, stratum 2 3 Dec 19:12:44 ntpd[29084]: synchronized to 213.96.197.96, stratum 2 3 Dec 19:13:34 ntpd[29084]: no servers reachable 3 Dec 19:20:14 ntpd[29084]: synchronized to 88.191.43.2, stratum 2 3 Dec 19:21:32 ntpd[29084]: synchronized to 213.96.197.96, stratum 2 3 Dec 19:22:36 ntpd[29084]: synchronized to 88.191.43.2, stratum 2 3 Dec 19:31:42 ntpd[29084]: time reset +309.343782 s 300 seconds of error after being disconeected from servers for just 20 minutes! Before an hour passes, it happens again: 3 Dec 19:31:42 ntpd[29084]: system event 'event_clock_reset' (0x05) status 'sync_alarm, sync_unspec, 15 events, event_peer/strat_chg' (0xc0f4) 3 Dec 19:31:42 ntpd[29084]: system event 'event_peer/strat_chg' (0x04) status 'sync_alarm, sync_unspec, 15 events, event_clock_reset' (0xc0f5) 3 Dec 19:31:44 ntpd[29084]: peer 213.96.200.126 event 'event_reach' (0x84) status 'unreach, conf, 2 events, event_reach' (0x8024) 3 Dec 19:31:45 ntpd[29084]: peer 81.19.16.225 event 'event_reach' (0x84) status 'unreach, conf, 2 events, event_reach' (0x8024) 3 Dec 19:32:23 ntpd[29084]: peer 88.191.43.2 event 'event_reach' (0x84) status 'unreach, conf, 2 events, event_reach' (0x8024) 3 Dec 19:32:24 ntpd[29084]: peer 195.92.137.112 event 'event_reach' (0x84) status 'unreach, conf, 2 events, event_reach' (0x8024) 3 Dec 19:32:30 ntpd[29084]: peer 193.138.215.60 event 'event_reach' (0x84) status 'unreach, conf, 2 events, event_reach' (0x8024) 3 Dec 19:32:34 ntpd[29084]: peer 213.96.197.96 event 'event_reach' (0x84) status 'unreach, conf, 2 events, event_reach' (0x8024) 3 Dec 19:36:40 ntpd[29084]: synchronized to 88.191.43.2, stratum 2 3 Dec 19:36:40 ntpd[29084]: system event 'event_sync_chg' (0x03) status 'leap_none, sync_ntp, 15 events, event_peer/strat_chg' (0x6f4) 3 Dec 19:36:40 ntpd[29084]: system event 'event_peer/strat_chg' (0x04) status 'leap_none, sync_ntp, 15 events, event_sync_chg' (0x6f3) 3 Dec 20:01:13 ntpd[29084]: offset 0.002029 sec freq 79.654 ppm error 0.002737 poll 6 3 Dec 20:15:34 ntpd[29084]: synchronized to 213.96.197.96, stratum 2 3 Dec 20:28:15 ntpd[29084]: no servers reachable 3 Dec 20:30:41 ntpd[29084]: synchronized to 88.191.43.2, stratum 2 3 Dec 20:34:30 ntpd[29084]: time reset +220.290279 s 220 delay.
Re: [opensuse] ntp can not manage to put the clock in sync.
Carlos E. R. wrote: I'm investigating a problem I'm having with the clock getting very slow, and I have traced the problem to something new in opensuse 10.3. I believe there must be a kernel problem or ntp problem in 10.3. Excellent work, Carlos, someone on PCLinux told me of a similar problem and i first did not believe him, but now i do. Kind regards Philippe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] vmware and fake scsi devs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-12-04 at 08:16 -1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, a symlink would not work. You should change all the references to device independent ones, like label, id, or uuid (not sure if all are valid). Nowhere should you have references like hda or sda. well, i looked at menu.lst and fstab in my 10.3 for the first time and saw a bunch of brave new things...I guess entropy *must* increase... i will try the hwprobe=-modules.pata in a day or two, I was forced to do that, as I have way more than 15 partitions. but i somehow doubt it will solve my problem and then i will have to decide if i will live w. it or revert to 10.2 . btw, how does grub know about libata before the kernel is loaded and how/does it get modified? No, grub doesn't know a word about it. If grub uses references like /dev/sda or /dev/hda, you must be sure that you use the same flavour as the kernel. Same thing applies to fstab. And if you use references like hd0, then they must also be the correct ones and the correct order (they can change if you mix pata/sata)... so that's where the new naming scheme comes in handy. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHVe+0tTMYHG2NR9URAoDbAJ4oEFSXhTCcNBWl8csK6VG3bpmlKwCfdjeg vTVlSzteOUQLPK9qGhIx9rg= =zebx -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] ntp can not manage to put the clock in sync.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2007-12-05 at 01:05 +0100, Philippe Landau wrote: Carlos E. R. wrote: I'm investigating a problem I'm having with the clock getting very slow, and I have traced the problem to something new in opensuse 10.3. I believe there must be a kernel problem or ntp problem in 10.3. Excellent work, Carlos, someone on PCLinux told me of a similar problem and i first did not believe him, but now i do. Then, please point him to this bugzilla: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=344356 so that he can see if we have the same problem, and if so, he could add his notes there. This other bugzilla: https://support.ntp.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=780 is somewhat related. Interesting to know that NTP developers do not want to hear anything about linux kernel! - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHVfD0tTMYHG2NR9URAj2CAJsEManzlqCMEXAFl379P5TSp1Ak2ACfWXDn o0zUJAOozhMpUH6qJPX4qKE= =NuQu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Remove all audio
I use SLES10 and this server does not have audio of any type. I am wanting to remove all audio (gstreamer, gnome-audio, flac and all the other multimedia/audio) from this server. I tried removing gnome-audio and gstreamer but of course it is hooked to all kinds of stuff. Even vcdimager is tied to something (gstreamer, i think). How do you go about removing audio from a server that does not have audio? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] BlueFish - Was it worked on during the Package Days
Ben Kevan wrote: With the merger of the packman and guru repositories we lost the application Bluefish as an RPM. I've got mine from the openSUSE-Education repository: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Education:/desktop/openSUSE_10.3 Rgds, Stephan. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] BlueFish - Was it worked on during the Package Days
Stephan Hegel wrote: Ben Kevan wrote: With the merger of the packman and guru repositories we lost the application Bluefish as an RPM. I've got mine from the openSUSE-Education repository: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Education:/desktop/openSUSE_10.3 Which file there do i need to add that repository too ? I clicked on education-desktop.ymp.ymp but that wanted to install sabayon etc without saying what that is, and did not mention bluefish. I could unselect all proposed apps like italc, is that the way to go ? Kind regards Philippe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Wine-Doors
I have been playing with Wine Doors on Opensuse 10.3. I downloaded the program from the 10.3 repository. It was working fine in the initial program. Subsequently, there has been an update and I now get the following error: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ wine-doors ]Created log file: wine-doors.log Started logging session Checking wine drive: /home/wine/.wine/ wine.py: CheckDrive: No wine-drive defined in specified wineroot Resolving dependencies for vc6 Added dependency autohotkey version 1 for vc6 version None Resolving dependencies for mozcontrol Added dependency vc6 version 6 for mozcontrol version None Added dependency autohotkey version 1 for mozcontrol version None Resolving dependencies for winegecko Resolving dependencies for autohotkey Resolving dependencies for webdings Resolving dependencies for times_new_roman Resolving dependencies for courier_new Resolving dependencies for comicsans Resolving dependencies for arial_bold Resolving dependencies for arial Creating wine drive wine.py: CreateDrive: Finished Installing Application: autohotkey version 1 Installing Application: vc6 version 6 Warning: MD5 sum not found Installing Application: arial Warning: MD5 sum not found Installing Application: arial_bold Warning: MD5 sum not found Installing Application: comicsans Warning: MD5 sum not found Installing Application: courier_new Warning: MD5 sum not found Installing Application: times_new_roman Warning: MD5 sum not found Installing Application: webdings Warning: MD5 sum not found Installing Application: winegecko Warning: MD5 sum not found Installing Application: mozcontrol Warning: MD5 sum not found fixme:ole:DllRegisterServer stub Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/wine-doors, line 99, in module ui.winedoors = ui.WineDoorsGUI() File /usr/share/wine-doors/src/ui.py, line 936, in __init__ '/org/freedesktop/NetworkManager') File /usr/lib64/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/bus.py, line 240, in get_object follow_name_owner_changes=follow_name_owner_changes) File /usr/lib64/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py, line 236, in __init__ self._named_service = conn.activate_name_owner(bus_name) File /usr/lib64/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/bus.py, line 179, in activate_name_owner self.start_service_by_name(bus_name) File /usr/lib64/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/bus.py, line 277, in start_service_by_name 'su', (bus_name, flags))) File /usr/lib64/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/connection.py, line 603, in call_blocking message, timeout) dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files Is it some configuration error on my part? -- Joseph Loo [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] ntp can not manage to put the clock in sync.
Carlos E. R. wrote: Hi, I'm investigating a problem I'm having with the clock getting very slow, and I have traced the problem to something new in opensuse 10.3. I wonder if any body has the same problem - the check is simple, run this grep command: grep time reset /var/log/ntp | less I get 24 Oct 19:41:38 ntpd[3347]: time reset -0.130426 s 29 Oct 18:20:20 ntpd[3433]: time reset -0.145680 s 8 Nov 03:11:41 ntpd[32375]: time reset +0.131260 s 13 Nov 18:56:36 ntpd[3396]: time reset -0.128489 s 28 Nov 14:59:49 ntpd[3396]: time reset -0.132907 s I'm running 64 bit. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] BlueFish - Was it worked on during the Package Days
Philippe Landau wrote: Stephan Hegel wrote: Ben Kevan wrote: With the merger of the packman and guru repositories we lost the application Bluefish as an RPM. I've got mine from the openSUSE-Education repository: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Education:/desktop/openSUSE_10.3 Which file there do i need to add that repository too ? I clicked on education-desktop.ymp.ymp but that wanted to install sabayon etc without saying what that is, and did not mention bluefish. I could unselect all proposed apps like italc, is that the way to go ? I use only Software Management in Yast2 since I can select the packages I want and it is doing the dependency checking. Therefore I added the repository in yast2: yast2-Software-Software repositories Hit the Add button: Protocol: http Server: download.opensuse.org Directory: /repositories/Education:/desktop/openSUSE_10.3/ Rgds, Stephan. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
