Re: [opensuse] Running slow, / full
Sunny wrote: > Check in Yast/System/sysconfig/System/Cron - there are setting to > enable automatic cleanup of the temp directories. Sounds good. Thanks! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] ThinkPad X61 prof
Verner Kjærsgaard wrote: > I'm about to purchase a (Lenovo) ThinkPad X61 prof laptop. > With 2G RAM, 100Gbyte SCSI (!) 7200 rpm HD, ATI GL and so. > > - It's to run OpenSuse10.3. > > - Has anyone on this list got any knowledge that this laptop will not run/is > a > no go/don't do it/what are you thinking of.. > > - Or should I just go ahead. I need the wireless to work in the box. I don't > care about bluetooth. > That sounds like the Lenovo I bought for motorbike road trips, only I don't remember the SCSI part, so mine might have been a little different model. When I was first experimenting with SuSE linux, I installed it on that laptop as a dual-boot system, and as I recall, everything pretty much worked right out of the box. I had wireless issues with my Toshiba laptop, which I resolved by adding a PCMCIA wireless card, but I'm almost certain the Lenovo had no such problems. (I can't verify that now, because it's currently an XP-Pro machine only.) Best of luck with it. If your eyes can deal with a screen that small, it's indeed a great little computer. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Running slow, / full
Aaron Kulkis wrote: > Your problem is that you failed to make a /home partition, > and your personal files have filled up the root partition. I don't know if it would help in this situation at all, but I found my server filling up for no good reason I could think of. Then I happened to look at my /tmp directory, and was amazed at what all was there. Don't applications that create temp files ever clean up after themselves anymore? I changed to runlevel 1 to make the file system as quiet as possible, removed /tmp/* and /tmp/.*, and gained 112 GB of space. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-kde] KDE4
Bob S wrote: > On Monday 21 January 2008 11:08:04 pm Bob S wrote: > >> Hello SuSE people >> >> Did a one click install of KDE4 tonight. Can't get it to open. No menu. >> Never mind I figured it out. >> >> What's the secret? I installed it, too (normally, using YaST), and lost interest before I figured out how to access the menu. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?
Aaron Kulkis wrote: > The only problem with using Windows as the primary learning > platform is that the whole MS training point of view is > that of "how to use release X of MS software product Y" > or "how to MS XP works"... instead of teaching general > computing principles. Since this has devolved into a strawman argument (I never suggested using Windows as the primary learning platform), I'm going to declare you the winner and move on to something meaningful. Disagree with what I say, and I'll listen to what you have to say. Distort what I say, and you're on your own for the rest of the discussion. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?
Sunny wrote: > Exposing the kids to different environments is very important in terms > of making them adapt easier to a changed situation. Exactly like the > languages - kids learn easier and faster a second (and third language) > than adults. And when they have the mindset to think in different > languages, it's easier for them to learn yet another one. And another > one ... > Exactly. And exposing them to only _one_ environment doesn't encourage them to learn those skills. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?
James Knott wrote: > Why is it that people have to learn Windows or Microsoft Office, > instead of how to use a computer or an office suite? Do you teach > your kids how to drive a Ford? Or how to drive a car? We should be > teaching skills, not products. I love my kids too much to teach them to drive a Ford. Seriously, I don't think it's a valid comparison. Cars are designed to be nearly universal, and those differences that exist (headlight, cruise, heater controls, etc.) can be figured out in minutes. Operating systems and the applications that run on them have much steeper learning curves. I'm not suggesting that kids should't be exposed to Linux. Or that it shouldn't be their OS of choice (if it really is their choice). But preventing them from learning anything about Windows and Microsoft applications isn't doing them a favor. You and I might prefer an open source world, but that's not the world most of us live in, and have to earn a living in. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?
PerfectReign wrote: > By the way - on the corporate note. I just put my first openSUSE > server box into production. It is a small app server running apache > for a LAMP based software inventory program, but it is a start. > Congratulations! Options are good. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] VPN Question
PerfectReign wrote: > What's your Wintendo VPN client? > Thanks for your reply. On the XP machine, it's part of the OS, rather than a separate utility. In the Network Connections dialog, it's just one of the options for creating a new connection. You select the radio button marked "Connect to the network at my workplace," and the wizard creates a desktop VPN shortcut that makes connecting and disconnecting easy. As I said, it "just works." There are no decisions to make, other than portal address and authentication. That's why I was surprised that so many options are available in KVpnc, and that the default settings there appear to be either insufficient or incorrect. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] VPN Question
I keep an XP-Pro machine at home, specifically to connect to my workstations at the office, so I can "remote desktop" to them and work at home from time to time. I'd _really_ like to be able to retask that machine to a more useful (Linux) purpose. I already know that the KDE4 rdp client works great within my own domain at home, so I investigated the KDE client for setting up a VPN connection, KVpnc. On the XP machine, of course, all I've ever needed to do is provide the IP address of our VPN portal, and it's just worked. When I tried using KVpnc, it attempts to connect, but after a short timeout, I'm told that the modem on the other end has disconnected. I know that I'm providing the appropriate domain name, IP address, user name and password, but there are other possible settings, and using all the defaults hasn't worked for me so far. Has anyone here successfully connected to a corporate NT domain using KVpnc? Other than providing the correct authentication info, did you need to change any of the other settings away from the defaults? Any help with this will be appreciated! I'd just ask our IT folks about it, but being a Windows shop, they may know little about Linux, and may even harbor unrealistic fears about connecting to the domain using a "nonstandard" machine. Better if I can just make it work, and it never becomes an issue. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?
Chris Ross wrote: > You've just proved my point really. It's that from my kids' > point-of-view even if they do buy Linux games, with the penguin on the > box and everything, they may or may not work. Whether it's old ones > like Quake 3 or even new ones like Quake 4. I'm not arguing with you > that they can get Dad to google for the answer, write some magic to > the computer's boot scripts and finally, hopefully, they'll actually > be able to play. That is exactly my point! The alternative is they can > afford a couple of Windows games themselves, take them home and play > them right away. As it is we *don't* have any Windows machines in the > house, I won't let them. the kids don't understand why not though. That's an interesting observation. You point out several reasons why a Windows machine may be more desirable, especially for kids, but you won't allow a Windows machine in the house. One can't help but wonder why -- I'm with the kids on that. Furthermore, it's not just about games. Most business runs on Windows machines, and is likely to for years to come. Unless you're independently wealthy -- such that your kids will never need to work in the real world -- preventing them from learning how Windows works isn't doing them any favors. I'm an enthusiastic Linux user, and in fact, have been somewhat of an evangelist about it at times. However, I earn a six-figure income ($US) working all day with computers running Windows. Just because we use and enjoy one doesn't necessarily mean we should remain ignorant about the other. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why beagle?
Basil Chupin wrote: >> bullshit. I have found the "dreaded dog" to be absolutely worthless. >> I don't have the eating cpu complaint, but a google desktop it aint... > ROFL! > > BUT!...don't ever mention "google" in polite society or a family > forum. But isn't the enemy of my enemy my friend? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] KDE4 Remoting: Fantastic!
I use remote desktop connections all the time at work, because we're commercial Windows software developers. At home, however, I've always used a rather clumsy KVM switch to change from my Linux hardware to my Windows hardware. One of the disappointments has been that doing so switched the audio output as well, interrupting whatever I was listening to whenever I've needed to work with both machines. Recently curiosity got the best of me, and I tried the new KDE4 remoting component. (Until I did, I didn't realize it would work with an RDP connection as well.) I set up a connection to my XP-Pro machine in an unused KDE desktop, and it's worked flawlessly. Now I can change from Linux session to XP-Pro session with a single mouse click, making it much easier to work with both machines at the same time - which I often do. Furthermore, it supports bringing the remote audio to the local machine, so I can start Windows Media Player and select an album I want to hear, and can listen without interruption as I change from one session to the other. I'm really impressed. If I don't encounter any problems with it, I'm thinking of getting rid of the KVM entirely, and clearing up the clutter on my desk. I thought some others here might appreciate knowing about it as well. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] odd /usr/bin thing
Bill Anderson wrote: > ...This was my first exposure to Unix. Roughly six years later, I was > a Product Line Engineering Manger at Fortune Systems. Those were wild > and exciting days in Silicon Valley. You were a manger? How holy! Or rustic! Or something -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] [OT] windows scam
Joe Sloan wrote: > Doug McGarrett wrote: > >> For those dual booting, or otherwise running Windows, I got this >> message on my Linux (only) machine: >> > > > > >> http://www.updatew.org/?q=scan >> >> I wouldn't dare >> run this on this Linux machine, nor especially on my Windows machine. >> (It would be interesting to see what it would make of SuSE, but I >> don't think I'm going to find out!) >> > > I've no need to be timid - I'm running linux after all ;) > > I visited the site, and like Randall, I was treated to a silly dog and > pony show in which the remote system was "scanning my system" (as IF!), > and found several serious issues. I played along with the gag and > clicked the "remove all" button and up popped a shopping cart and they > were ready to collect my payment info. I cancelled out at that point, > but it was good for a few chuckles. > I doubt very much if it's a scam to sell fake software, although that would be bad enough. With the credit card information they require, they can harvest working credit information easily. The original poster should definitely report this phishing attempt to his ISP, if he hasn't already done so. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 shutting down by itself
Mark Venn wrote: > Have you checked if the CPU fan is running OK and are the fins on the > heat sink clear of crud. I sorted a system that was shutting down by > cleaning off a layer of dust that looked like felt it was so badly > blocked. > Exactly the same thing happened with a Toshiba laptop of mine. After removing the felt, it now runs indefinitely without shutting down, whereas before, it used to run for only 20 or so minutes at a time. With that computer, however, the symptom wasn't that it would reboot. Instead, it would simply quit, and become nonresponsive. I'd need to power it down and restart it, after which it would continue for a short while, then repeat. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Laptop recomendations
Randal Jarrett wrote: > I'm going to have to replace my old (6+ years) Toshiba that has a amd > 450Mhz processor and > a whopping 20GB disk. > > I'm looking for recommendations for a mid range ($1k - 1.5k) laptop that > is compatible with > Opensuse 10.3. > The current issue of Linux Journal has an extensive article on just that subject. >From personal experience, I've installed SuSE Linux on both my Lenovo notebook and my Toshiba laptop without much drama. Of the two, the Lenovo was easier, requiring the least trouble to get everything working right. The LJ article approaches the subject from the standpoint of what's available without Windows already installed. Not only can that save some money (especially if you're never going to use the Windows license), but you stand a better chance of having everything you need for Linux already installed -- like video and sound support, wireless driver, and so on. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Compiz or not
Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > Beware of updates. I had mine working fine. The nvidia driver update of > a week or so ago (installed via Yast updates) made it stop working. What > confuses me is why almost all of the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file was changed > in the upgrade. I will work through all and see which thing was changed > to make it no longer work. But it is truly a fragile thing. > That may be what happened to me, as well. If you read my later email, you'll see that at some point, I started getting a useless white screen on KDE, although it continued working on Gnome, which I prefer not to use. Since updates are ordinarily expected to fix problems - not cause them - I usually install any that are for software I'm using. Now that you mention it, I seem to recall having installed one around that time. Although fun to play with now and then, those desktop effects are the kind of fluff that nobody really needs. It's not hard to do without them. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Window Activation Options?
ianseeks wrote: >> What is the special key you press to trigger your KVM if you want to switch >> via the keyboard? >> I don't know, but that's a thought. Either this one doesn't use a keyboard signal, or it wasn't one that's convenient to use, so I've always just pressed the hardware switch instead. I know what you mean, though. I've had other KVMs in the past that used something like and to cycle among the machines. It's possible that there's one I'm not aware of, and logging off from KDE is activating that keypress. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] suse 10.3/kde/evolution
Sampsa Riikonen wrote: > yes, the "tilt" .. > .. it was a direct translation from finnish, where > the verb "tilttaa" exists. I thought it was originally > an english saying (after consulting m-w.com I > changed my mind..). > > Nevermind, we can still introduce it to the english language.. > > "Computer/program tilts" = "Computer/program fails/blocks" > Actually, it's an American expression, at least. Dunno about British English, but after watching the rock opera, Tommy, I suspect it's a phenomenon known to them as well. It goes back to the days of mechanical pinball machines, which all have a hardware device that stops the game if anyone tries to tilt the machine to influence the direction a ball is rolling. Everything comes to a stop, and "blocks," so to speak. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Window Activation Options?
Randall R Schulz wrote: > The option is called "Focus Follows Mouse" vs. "Click to Focus" and is > configured in the KDE control center (naturally): > > Control Center > -> Desktop > --> Window Behavior > ---> Focus (tab) > > Policy: (pop-up) > Thanks! Didn't even require restarting KDE. I'm not sure I'd have ever found it, buried that deep. There's one more KDE annoyance (albeit a trivial one) that I'd like to solve, if you happen to know the answer to that one as well. I've noticed that when I log out from Gnome, it takes me to the logon spash screen without any extra drama. When I log out from KDE, it triggers my KVM switch and takes me back to my XP-Pro machine, until I press the button to switch back to the Linux machine as well. Obviously, this is something else that's session-manager dependent, since KDE does it and Gnome doesn't. I'm not sure that it's been any different in the past, so I suspect it's not something I've changed, but if you know where there's an option where I can change that too, it would make my day complete. Thanks again, Jerry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Virtualbox.
Erik Jakobsen wrote: > The VirtualBox kernel driver is not accessible to the current user. Make > sure that the user has write permissions for /dev/vboxdrv by adding them > to the vboxusers groups. You will need to logout for the change to take > effect.. > > How do I set the permissions ? > I just used the YaST "Security and Users" module (which requires root credentials) to add my non-privileged user account to the appropriate group. It was easy, and worked fine. I'm sure you could do that from a root command shell as well, if you're more comfortable with that, but I haven't needed to research the commands to do that. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Window Activation Options?
Somewhere or another, in all the possible configuration areas, there's an option that activates windows when the mouse passes over them. (I'm using KDE.) I must have thought it would be a good option to try, and I vaguely remember turning it on, but now it's driving me mad. After clicking where I want to insert text into an email message or an editor, for example, I habitually move the mouse cursor away from there, so it isn't included in the text I'm looking at. If I accidentally move the mouse off the message and onto the Thunderbird window behind it, say, then the main Thunderbird window is activated, the message is deactivated, and I can't enter text until I move the cursor back onto the message window. A similar thing happens if I move the mouse cursor off the gedit window I'm using. Mere words can't express how annoying that is, and turning that option off would be far preferable than forming new editing habits. Trouble is, I can't find it again. I've looked everywhere I can think of, and can't find any such option anywhere. Does anyone here recognize the option I'm talking about, and remember where that is? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Downgrade to Vista
Kai Ponte wrote: > For some reason, the first thought I had, while lying there in pain > was - hey: I can install XP on a smallish partition and have them > encrypt that. Then I install SUSE 10.3 on the rest of the machine and > it will be "compliant". > Another idea: I have a very satisfactory installation of XP-Pro running in a VirtualBox VM. Actually, I don't need it for anything, and I don't use it for anything, but I had an extra XP-Pro license here, and wanted to give it a try. So far, VirtualBox seems just as easy to use as VMware or VirtualPC, and may even be more capable than either of those. Run full-screen, it's hart to tell a VM session from an ordinary session, but to change from XP to Linux you won't need to reboot. And if you ever want to move the XP virtual machine (and its virtual hard drive) to a new or different laptop, that's trivial. Much more so that reinstalling XP, applying all the available updates, then reinstalling all the Windows applications you use and copying their working data. You essentially just copy a couple of files (one large, one small), and you're ready to launch it there. Pretty easy to do backups, too, since all you need to do is copy the virtual hard drive to a safe place now and then. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Gnome messed up
Allen wrote: > I'm to the point I was ready to completely delete Gnome and reinstall it but > then it seems to be that if I do the system could break with all my other > apps that need something from Gnome. > I feel your pain. I experimented a bit with the rotating cube desktop effects, and somehow I got myself into a situation where my screen (in KDE) was all white. When I logged off and back on, the startup music played, and everything seemed normal, except I couldn't see the background, icons, task bar ... everything was all white. (Now I know what "this is very experimental" means!) In my case, Gnome worked just fine, but I really don't care much for Gnome. So I edited a config file and changed back to Xorg, then KDE worked again, but of course, no rotating cube. After a day or so of trying everything I could think of to get things working again, I finally just gave up on the rotating cube desktop, and I'm happily using KDE again without the damned cube. > So does anyone have any idea what happened? Is my system now doomed to having > to just deal with this? WindowMaker and KDE and everything else work just > fine but if I want to use Gnome I can't really, it's like everything is gone > that I did with it. > YaST offers the opportunity to *update* an installation, rather than remove it and start over. Have you tried that? It just might work, especially if it restores your Gnome configuration back to original default settings. You could do a lot worse than to use KDE, if that's working well for you, but I understand wanting to get back to an environment you feel comfortable with. Good luck with it! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Desktop Switching
I work with a single keyboard, mouse, and monitor connected to both an XP-Pro machine and my SuSE 10.3 machine using a KVM switch. The Windows machine uses a desktop manager called VirtuaWin (from SourceForge) to navigate among a set of desktops using the Windows key in combination with up, down, left, and right arrow keys. With KDE on the Linux box, keyboard navigation is not nearly so convenient. Since one _can_ navigate using the keyboard in KDE, it occurred to me that there might be a configuration file somewhere telling it what keypresses to interpret for that purpose. And thus, I might be able to reconfigure it so that navigation is possible using the same keystrokes that I use to navigate among desktops on the Windows box. That would make me very happy. :-) Does anyone have a clue where I could look for that? I've tried the graphical configuration tools without finding any such setting, but that doesn't mean that such a setting doesn't exist. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why the SMTP delay? (was Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts )
James Knott wrote: > I wasn't referring to your messages. It can happen to anyone. For > example, yesterday I noticed replies on another mail list, but the > original that those messages replied to, didn't appear until hours later. > It depends on a lot of factors: the routing involved, whose server is down for maintenance or backups, etc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Compiz or not
Ken Schneider wrote: > I also have compiz-fusion-kde-0.6.2-3.1 installed. Not sure if it adds > the menu entry or not. rpm reports that it contains no files. I'm not a > wiz at Compiz-Fusion just looking for anything obvious. > Thanks, everyone, for your help. It's working fine now. I discovered the official SuSE documentation and read through it, then used YaST to set up the configuration. I'm not going to say what the documentation told me to do after clicking [Finish], because some here will assure me that it's not necessary, and I'd be a fool to do it. (Anyone having problems with this can read it for themselves.) Suffice it to say that I did what the documentation told me to do, and everything is now working fine. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Compiz or not
Ken Schneider wrote: > Please reply only to the list. > Sorry, Ken. Of all the lists I'm part of, this is the only one configured like this. Sometimes I forget to "reply all." > Can you show what compiz apps you have installed. > > rpm -qa|grep compiz > Sure: libcompizconfig-backend-gconf-0.5.2_git070824-23 compizconfig-settings-manager-0.5.2_git070825-22 compiz-gnome-0.5.4-27 libcompizconfig-0.5.2_git070824-22 compiz-emerald-0.5.2-22 python-compizconfig-0.5.2_git070825-22 compiz-fusion-plugins-main-0.5.2_git070824-22 libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig-0.5.2_git070824-23 compiz-emerald-themes-0.5.2-6 compiz-kde-0.5.4-27 compiz-fusion-plugins-extra-0.5.2_git070824-22 compiz-0.5.4-27 As I may have indicated, I think I probably installed more than I needed to, but only when the first attempts didn't appear to be enough. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Compiz or not
According to one of my books that's specific to SuSE 10.3, I've done all that's necessary to enable Xgl and Compiz, and the Gnome desktop effects module confirms that my graphics card is suitable, that 3-D is enabled. In KDE, I'm able to run the configuration tool, and it appears to be working. However, I can't get a Compiz session started. When I go to the appropriate place in personal settings to choose a session manager, only kwin appears, in a combo box that is grayed and disabled. Is there some extra step that's commonly overlooked, that makes Compiz show up in the session manager selections? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] MySQL GUI frontends
Kai Ponte wrote: > I have that installed - but there's no query browser or workbench that I can > see. > > How do I run them? > Mine showed up as 'Database Query Tool' in 'New Applications.' > OT - i wish the RPM database showed what the executable(s) for an application > or package was. > Use the YaST software installation module, and it will list the files that are part of a package, and where they are placed on your system. Some of them display in bold type -- I'm guessing those are the executables. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts
primm wrote: >> I recall reading that in France, one way signs are considered a >> suggestion. ;-) >> >> > Another anorak who lives with his mother girls. But lets encourage him by > telling him to keep it up. Driving fast and having fun is still allowed on > this list. > When do we start talking about MotoGP, and Stoner's chances in 2008? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Automating Backups - missing module?
Anders Johansson wrote: > On Monday 24 December 2007 19:32:01 Jerry Houston wrote: > >> Question is, where is client module 'backup' supposed to come from? One >> would think that YaST would be installed with whatever modules are needed >> to handle the tasks that it offers, but perhaps not? Does anyone know if >> there's something more I need to install in order for this not to fail? >> > > The package is called yast2-backup, but you're right that it should be > installed already. Strange > It is. Not including the documentation, these are the files that YaST says are installed for that module: /usr/lib/YaST2/bin/backup_archive.pl /usr/lib/YaST2/bin/backup_cron /usr/lib/YaST2/bin/backup_search.pl /usr/lib/YaST2/servers_non_y2/ag_file_append /usr/lib/YaST2/servers_non_y2/ag_free_space /usr/share/YaST2/clients/backup.ycp /usr/share/YaST2/clients/backup_available_packages.ycp /usr/share/YaST2/clients/backup_get_packages.ycp /usr/share/YaST2/clients/backup_save_profile.ycp /usr/share/YaST2/include/backup /usr/share/YaST2/include/backup/functions.ycp /usr/share/YaST2/include/backup/help_texts.ycp /usr/share/YaST2/include/backup/ui.ycp /usr/share/YaST2/modules/Backup.ybc /usr/share/YaST2/modules/Backup.ycp /usr/share/YaST2/scrconf/cfg_backup.scr /usr/share/YaST2/scrconf/cfg_backup_freespace.scr /usr/share/YaST2/scrconf/proc_filesystems.scr /usr/share/applications/YaST2/backup.desktop Not knowing exactly what y2base expects from its parameters, or what exactly a "ycp value" is, I can't really go much farther with it. I don't know which of these might be involved in the 'no such client module backup' message from cron. I was hoping someone here might know what that refers to, and could provide a clue where to find the missing module. Thanks, Jerry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Automating Backups - missing module?
We've been discussing this problem for a while now, and I have one specific
related question left. It all seems to boil down to a shell script that
contains, among other things, these lines:
# start backup - set cron mode, set nice level to not slowdown other processes
# set server component testsuite to parse UI requests
nice -n 15 /usr/lib/YaST2/bin/y2base backup '("cron")'
'("'$PROFILE'")' testsuite > /dev/null
The messages from cron that end up in root mail look something like this:
Subject: Cron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> /usr/lib/YaST2/bin/backup_cron
"profile=partial_backup"
X-Cron-Env:
X-Cron-Env:
X-Cron-Env:
X-Cron-Env:
X-Cron-Env:
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 00:01:02 -0800 (PST)
No such client module backup
Question is, where is client module 'backup' supposed to come from? One would
think that YaST would be installed with whatever modules are needed to handle
the tasks that it offers, but perhaps not? Does anyone know if there's
something more I need to install in order for this not to fail?
Thanks,
Jerry
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Re: [opensuse] Why beagle?
Rajko M. wrote: > Doctor that doesn't know plumbing is not considered as unusual, but in your > opinion the same doctor that doesn't know how to use computer is?! > What's wrong in this picture? > > Computers are far more complex than plumbing, even in the most rudimentary > use. Book that describes computer basics has few hundred pages. How many > pages is needed to describe plumbing from A to Z ? > Probably quite a few, if you include all the specialized knowledge needed for all areas of of plumbing. It take someone several years to become truly skilled in the trade. But you do make a good point. Even "computer basics" is a really broad area of human endeavor. I've been a software developer for 20+ years, taught assembler and several higher languages at the college level, wrote three books on programming, and authored 20 or so magazine articles on computer topics. But when it comes to IT stuff, or internet security, or even serious DBA work, I can be pretty helpless at times. Those aren't my areas of expertise. There's just SO much to know, it's hard to expect any one person to know it all. So when YaST tells me, "You must restart your system ...", I don't question whether I really must. I just do it. (However, I'm going to be careful not to mention it here!) Happy Solstice, everyone! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] will pay for wireless help
Rajko M. wrote: > On Saturday 22 December 2007 05:36:03 pm Steve Reilly wrote: > ... > >> you need to install both the kernel >> > > Do you mean kernel sources, and compile package? > The directions tell you to install (or update) madwifi, then figure out the "flavor" of your kernel, and install the module to match it. Mine's "bigsmp," for example. It didn't work for me, at any rate. When I was done installing (and rebooting), modprobe ath_pci didn't show any results, and I couldn't get the card to connect at all. Since I have the PCMCIA wireless card working fine, it doesn't matter much to me, but I'd be interested in finding how how it goes for James. Perhaps there's some non-obvious step that's needed, beyond what the opensuse.org web site tells us. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Backup scheduling
Joe Sloan wrote: >> "You'll need to reboot your system for the new scheduling to take >> effect." >> > > > Yeah that just sounds completely insane. Can you tell me, did the book > say to schedule the task with cron? > No. I think I mentioned earlier that I used the YaST System Backup module to set it up. That writes to /etc/cron.d, but I didn't use cron directly. (And that's the method described in the book as well.) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Backup scheduling
Joe Sloan wrote: > My first reaction on seeing advice to reboot is to think "what idiot > wrote this" but I will for the time being withhold judgement until I can > find a copy of that and read the context. If my first impression is > correct though, it wouldn't be the first time some well meaning writer > from a microsoft background recommended a completely unnecessary reboot > on a linux system, supposedly to cause some trivial configuration change > take effect. > > I understand what you're saying. I'm too new at Linux to debate the issue, but I don't know of a Windows system that requires a reboot after creating a scheduled task, either, so it would be hard to place the blame there. It could just be a misunderstanding, but the author(s) seem to know Linux well, judging from the rest of the book. The exact quote on that page, following the section on setting up an automated backup, is: "You'll need to reboot your system for the new scheduling to take effect." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Backup scheduling
Joe Sloan wrote: >> Also, after scheduling the backup(s), one must restart the computer. >> Nowhere else did I see any indication of that requirement. >> > > Eh? I doubt that. I can't envision any possible scenario where such an > action would require a linux reboot. Perhaps someone cut and pasted from > a guide originally written for windows, or some similar silliness? > > I'd love to see the reference. > Page 572 of "Beginning SUSE Linux", from Apress. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Backup scheduling
Regarding my problems getting scheduled backups (defined using YaST) to run: I read another description of scheduling backups in yet another of my SuSE Linux books, and came across some very non-obvious requirements in the notes there. I'll point them out here, in case anyone else is in the same situation as I. For one, there can be no spaces in the name of a backup. I'm not talking about the backup _file_ name, but the name of the backup itself. So apparently 'full system backup' won't work, but 'full_system_backup' should be okay. According to that book, the backup tool will accept a backup name with a space in it without complaint (as I found out), but the backup won't run. Also, after scheduling the backup(s), one must restart the computer. Nowhere else did I see any indication of that requirement. So I've renamed my two backups, rescheduled them, and rebooted the system. Hopefully that will do it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Backup scheduling
I'm still having issues with scheduling backups, and I resolved to get them settled today. I could sure use some advice. To summarize: I've gone through the motions to set up two kinds of backups using YaST. One is a full system backup that I'd like to schedule for once a week (and also run it manually after making significant system changes). The other is a backup of /etc and /home that I can schedule daily. I want to keep three generations of each, which is the default for the scheduler. I noticed that despite having defined automated parameters for the backups, and their showing up in the listing with the times I chose to run them, it simply doesn't happen. So I set out to learn more about crontab, hoping to figure out what's not right. According to one of my SuSE Linux books (of four, it's the only one with 'cron' in the index!), I need to do that with 'crontab -e', and edit the file in vi. Fine ... I can use vi well enough to do that. But if I start a console running with my user credentials, that command results in an error saying I don't have permission. Nothing in the book said I needed to be su in order to run it -- in fact, it implied just the opposite -- but just for grins, I started a root console and issued the same command. That worked, and vim started with an empty list. (Now that I think about it, I suppose that having set up the scheduled backups using YaST, it probably would require root to modify them, but it still puzzles me that I don't have permission to run crontab as a standard user and schedule my own user tasks.) So my questions: (1) SHOULD I be able to run crontab as a standard user? Do I need to add my user account to a specific group in order to be able to do that? (2) Should I forget about the scheduling that YaST supposedly provides, and just schedule the backups with tar using crontab from the root account? (I haven't used tar before -- hopefully there are options to tell it to keep three generations.) (3) Should a bug be reported for YaST (for not actually scheduling the backups), or is it not really expected to do that? Thanks for any help with this! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] VLC and Static
I'm using the VLC media player on my 10.3 x64 installation, and I love its features, but it frequently emits static that's very annoying. Anyone else here been there, done that, and found a way to make it stop? Thanks, Jerry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Automated Backups?
With vacation time on my hands, I finally got around to setting up some backups for my Linux machine. Things are evolving here, and there's probably now more important stuff on it than any of our other computers. I created a /backup directory in the root, and mounted a spare 150 GB drive there, so as to put all my backups on a different device, in case of a complete system failure of some kind. I used the Backup feature in YaST, created a full systsem backup to use weekly, and a /home backup to run each night at midnight. I figured I could also run the full backup at odd times, e.g., if I've just made a lot of software changes, or installed a lot of critical updates. I tested both, and found them to be working as expected, if started manually. I went to bed last night expecting to find a second versioned copy of the /home backup in my /backup directory, but it wasn't there this morning. Finally, my question: do I need to do something else to enable these scheduled backups? There was nothing obvious on the pages where I set up the profiles and entered the parameters for automatic backups. I assumed that YaST would schedule the tasks for me, based on the day/time information I provided. What am I missing? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] kmail signatures
Kai Ponte wrote: > > This is actually a very cool response. Thanks, will! I had googled this > > and > > found only belligerant and snide remarks about how bottom posting is > > "better" > > blah, blah, blah... > > > > Unfornately, it is the case that some huge number of corporate email > > systems > > use top posting as the default. In addition, some number of home email > > systems also top post by default. > > > > I even tried settting Outlook to bottom post (yes you can configure Outlook > > to > > bottom post) but got frustrated at everyone else's unwillingness to comply. > > > As has been hinted at already, corporate email is very different than Usenet newsgroup postings and public mailing lists. The needs are different, and top posting is indeed called for most of the time in that environment. Consider that an end user and a customer service rep discuss a software usability problem and how to reproduce it. They send several emails back and forth, until the customer service rep thinks she understands the problem. Then they bring it to the attention of the business analyst responsible for that feature by including her in the Cc addresses. The business analyst can read from the bottom up to catch up on all that's gone before, but once having done that, can read just the top posts, as the end user and the customer service rep have been doing. "Yep, that's the way it's designed to work." Now a developer needs to be brought in to discuss the feasibility of a code change. Rinse and repeat. With some idea how to fix the problem, and the developer's advice about how long it might take and what resources would be required, a product manager is brought in to decide what product release the fix should be scheduled for. The product manager will probably need to clear it with the quality assurance manager, depending on how risky the fix is presumed to be. As every new person is involved, that person can move down through the thread as far as necessary to get up to speed with the others. This differs a lot from our situation. We don't bring folks into the conversation one at a time as needed, but everyone is invited to every thread, should they choose to become involved. We don't need to make sure that each new participant has all the foregoing message content available, because each new participant already has it all available. Our messages can be much more concise, and flow much more logically, than those in a typical business environment. Those of us who encourage bottom posting and quote trimming _here_ don't presume to tell others how to conduct their business and personal one-to-one emails. It's up to them to decide what makes sense for them. We're only saying that _here_, in a public forum, one should abide by the rules set by the list administrators and customs that make sense in this particular context. There are many good reasons for those particular rules, most of which have been already been enumerated. Fortunately, most decent mail clients make it easy to go either way. There's even a good add-on for Outlook Express, called OEQuoteFix (Google it ... it's free) that makes bottom posting easy with that client, and adds other enhancements. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Top posting is just fine - it's a personal choice thing.
Paul Hands wrote: > I prefer top posting as I can see the most recent stuff first, and I > don't have any problem with reverse ordering. I am quite happy either > way as well, so I *don't* try to force my view on others. > You're right -- with respect to business email. And it makes sense to carry all the previous thread along with each message (which is what usually happens with top-posting). If a situation requires that someone new be brought into the conversation, simply Cc'ing them provides them with the whole history of the discussion. The wasted space is the company's wasted space, and they probably have IT policies to limit your mailbox storage to a reasonable size. Indeed, email clients like Outlook, that are primarily business-oriented, default to top-posting replies. Public mailing lists are different. Here, we all have access to all of the previous messages. Nobody new is being introduced to a conversation, because we're all part of every conversation anyway, unless we choose not to be. In the case of a public mailing list, it makes sense to follow the internet conventions (especially if the list administration requests it), for all the reasons that those conventions were put in place. The wasted space is on somebody else's servers, and that's not playing nice. At work, or in personal emails to friends, you should follow your own advice, and post wherever you like. Here, though, you should consider yourself to be in Rome, and do as the Romans do. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] opensuse 10.3 box vs iso versions
arijit sarkar wrote: > Boxed version comes with 90-day installation support by phone and > e-mail. You may extend it after purchase support. > Dunno if SuSE works the same way that RedHat did, but if it does, I'd advise folks not to "register" unless and until they actually do need some help. I bought a commercial RedHat distribution once, somewhere around v7.1 if I recall correctly, because it had been a while since I'd run a Linux system, and it was my first experience with RedHat. I figured I might need the help, and was happy to pay extra for it. I duly followed their recommendation to register the product as soon as it was installed. As it turned out, I was able to answer all my own questions for quite a while, digging information out of man pages, Linux books, and other available resources. When I was finally stumped, and had tried for days to resolve a problem, I contacted them and was told that my support had run out, because I'd bought the distribution slightly more than 90 days before. That was the end of my first and last association with RedHat Linux. I've always figured that 90 days of paid support ought to extend for 90 days after your first support contact, but that's not the way RedHat saw it. If SuSE feels the same way, then my above advice stands: don't sign up until you need help. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] I wonder why ...
... a 32-bit system can't be upgraded to a 64-bit system, given that it's on hardware that will support it. I realize that virtually every file will need to be replaced, but that's apparently also true when upgrading from an earlier 32-bit system to a later 32-bit system. It would save a lot of effort and worry about losing personal data that one wouldn't want to lose. (I've not worked with a 64 bit system before now, but I'm guessing that an email store is an email store, a database is a database, and a config file is a config file, regardless of the executables that access them.) Is it simply impossible for updater software running in 64-bit mode to examine and evaluate components designed to run in 32-bit mode? Or is such an upgrade something that might become available in some future distribution? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: legalities
James Knott wrote: > Actually, there are many vendors who will sell without Windows or with > Linux installed. For example, there's one company, located near my > home, that sells computers loaded with Linux or no OS, for less than the > same system with Windows. Indeed. Since we're "Microsoft Gold Partners" at work, we have no need to buy operating systems again when we purchase computers. (Our licensing includes everything we need from them.) We just bought a buttload of new HP development machines that came directly from HP with Linux (disguised as FreeDOS) on them, at a lower cost than if they'd come with Windows installed. The only annoying issue was that since they didn't have Windows on them, they didn't have any Windows DRIVERS on them either. I needed to download all of those from HP and figure out what to install on a system. Once I got it working, we ghosted it and built the rest of the machines from that image. I'd be willing to bet that the eventual move to Vista will make this sort of purchase even more common. We could just as easily have installed Linux on them instead of XP-Pro (but we create Windows-based commercial software). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Fwd: Re: [opensuse] boot from USB without USB choice in bios]
Sent as a reply, not a "reply all." Sorry -- this is the only list I've been on for years that works this way. Original Message Subject:Re: [opensuse] boot from USB without USB choice in bios Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 13:41:11 -0700 From: Jerry Houston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Billie Walsh wrote: > Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote: >> Would like to use my USB stick for booting a live linux but found up >> to now no usable solutions. >> Can somebody help me out? > > As someone else already said. First thing would be to see if there is > a bios update. Just possibly it may allow USB boot. > > I don't know what your situation is, or why you want to run it from a > USB stick. BUT, IF it were me I would just dual boot from the internal > hard drive. That's exactly what I did with my laptop. I got an eighty > gig hard drive and partitioned it 50/50. Half for Winders and half for > Linux. What he said. If the idea is to boot from a system on a USB key, where's your swap partition going to be? I found out when I tried to put a Win-XP VM on a 16 GB USB key just how slow those are compared with ordinary disk access. I mean, I already knew that, but it wasn't really obvious just *how* bad it was until I could see controls and buttons on an application getting drawn one at a time. I moved that VM to an ordinary external HD with a USB 2.0 connection, and it was quite usable. Not as convenient to move from one computer to another, granted, but it made the difference between works and doesn't work. It's not the USB 2.0 bandwidth that's the bottleneck - it's the flash drive read/write speeds that make it unusable for such a purpose. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] 32-bit to 64-bit upgrade possible?
When I first installed openSuSE 10.2 on my dual 64-bit machine, I had problems with it reading the DVD, so I gave up and I've been using the 32-bit version. With the move to 10.3, I'm considering trying the 64-bit version once more, and am downloading the RC1 DVD image now. Will I be able to do an upgrade from my installed 32-bit system to a 64-bit system? I'm assuming that my data files will all remain (like my email store), but just executable bits will be replaced. Is that true, or will I need to reinstall and reconfigure all my applications? If it's going to mean serious pain, I'm happy to stick with a 32-bit installation, as I'm only using 2 GB of ram anyway. I'm more or less interested in a 64-bit system for the curiosity factor -- I've not had or used one before. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: Re: [opensuse] Re: Partition Table Woes]
Rajko M. wrote: > On Saturday 22 September 2007 21:11, Jerry Houston wrote: > >> Rajko M. wrote: >> >>> On Saturday 22 September 2007 20:15, Jerry Houston wrote: >>> ... >>> >>> >>>> Is there a Plan B that I should try? >>>> >>> Let us see: >>> fdisk -l >>> >> Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes >> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders >> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes >> Disk identifier: 0x0009a565 >> >>Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System >> /dev/sda1 1 523 4200966 82 Linux swap / >> Solaris >> /dev/sda2 * 524 19457 152087355 83 Linux >> >> Disk /dev/sdb: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes >> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24321 cylinders >> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes >> Disk identifier: 0x0007405f >> >>Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System >> /dev/sdb1 1 24321 195358401 83 Linux >> >> >>> cat /boot/menu.ls >>> > > My bad. Sorry. > >> cat: /boot/menu.lst: No such file or directory >> > > Carlos already corrected this, and Patrick added next important file. > > The /dev/sda2 is marked active. > If generic boot loader is in /dev/sda MBR, and grub is installed in /dev/sda2 > boot sector, it should pick up and boot from there. > > So we looking: > - is generic boot code in MBR of /dev/sda > dd if=/dev/sda of=sda-mbr bs=512 count=1 > strings -n 10 sda-mbr > Should give this: > Invalid partition table > No operating system > Error loading operating system > > openSuSE-desktop:/ # strings -n 10 sda-mbr No active partition Disk read error No operating system Invalid CHS read > - is GRUB installed in /dev/sda2 > dd if=/dev/sda2 of=sda2-mbr bs=512 count=1 > strings sda2-mbr > It should list in last lines: > GRUB > Geom > Hard Disk > Read >Error > > openSuSE-desktop:/ # strings sda2-mbr ZRrK D|f1 GRUB Geom Hard Disk Read Error > You can try tests on /dev/sdb and /dev/sdb1. > On /dev/sdb: openSuSE-desktop:/ # strings -n 10 sdb-mbr Invalid partition table No operating system Error loading operating system On /dev/sdb1: openSuSE-desktop:/ # strings sdb1-mbr (apparently there were no results from this) Does any of this suggest what's wrong? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: Re: [opensuse] Re: Partition Table Woes]
Patrick Shanahan wrote: > and > cat /boot/grub/device.map > openSuSE-desktop:/ # cat /boot/grub/device.map (hd0) /dev/sda (hd1) /dev/sdb -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: Re: [opensuse] Re: Partition Table Woes]
Carlos E. R. wrote: > > The Saturday 2007-09-22 at 19:11 -0700, Jerry Houston wrote: > > >> cat /boot/menu.ls > > cat: /boot/menu.lst: No such file or directory > > /boot/grub/menu.lst # Modified by YaST2. Last modification on Sat Sep 22 14:25:22 PDT 2007 default 0 timeout 8 ##YaST - generic_mbr gfxmenu (hd0,1)/boot/message ##YaST - activate ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux### title openSUSE 10.3 - 2.6.22.5-25 root (hd0,1) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22.5-25-bigsmp root=/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_WDC_WD1600JB-00_WD-WMANM6783171-part2 vga=0x31a resume=/dev/sda1 splash=silent showopts initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.22.5-25-bigsmp ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: failsafe### title Failsafe -- openSUSE 10.3 - 2.6.22.5-25 root (hd0,1) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22.5-25-bigsmp root=/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_WDC_WD1600JB-00_WD-WMANM6783171-part2 vga=normal showopts ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off noresume nosmp noapic maxcpus=0 edd=off 3 initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.22.5-25-bigsmp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: Re: [opensuse] Re: Partition Table Woes]
Rajko M. wrote: > On Saturday 22 September 2007 20:15, Jerry Houston wrote: > ... > >> Is there a Plan B that I should try? >> > Let us see: > fdisk -l > Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x0009a565 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 1 523 4200966 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sda2 * 524 19457 152087355 83 Linux Disk /dev/sdb: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24321 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x0007405f Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 1 24321 195358401 83 Linux > cat /boot/menu.ls cat: /boot/menu.lst: No such file or directory -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Betas, RCs, and stable releases
I'm curious about the transition between RC1 and the final stable release, as this will be the first time I've moved from one release to the next of the same Linux distro. I assume that I don't need to remove anything manually, and that the installation of the 10.3 release version will replace any beta bits left on the machine with stable bits. Is that right, or does it need to be cleaned manually as part of the OS update? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Fwd: Re: [opensuse] Re: Partition Table Woes]
Oops ... I forgot, and just replied, so my answer went just to Jonathan. Here's a "reply to all," in case anybody else out there is in the same situation and needs the same help. Original Message Subject:Re: [opensuse] Re: Partition Table Woes Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:40:46 -0700 From: Jerry Houston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jonathan Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jonathan Arnold wrote: > To get grub installed correctly on your hard drive, see if my Linux Brain > Dump post helps: > > http://linuxbraindump.org/2007/08/17/restoring-grub/ Thanks to both you and Joe for your suggestions. I followed the directions on your Brain Dump, and everything looked as it should. In my case, the partition was identified as (0,1), so that's what I used. There was no indication of a problem, until I rebooted. Got the same "Invalid partition table" error as before. I inserted the DVD, and was able to boot to the hard disk without a problem. Is there a Plan B that I should try? Thanks, Jerry in Bothell, WA -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Partition Table Woes
As I've mentioned before, I built a Linux machine more or less as a toy -- an educational one, but not something that I depend on. So I've experimented a bit more freely than some might, installing different versions of openSuSE, as well as trying out Ubuntu and Fedora at one time or another. It's been fun, and I've learned a lot. Currently I have what I think is a great configuration in place for openSuSE 10.3 Beta 3, but somehow I've ended up with a machine that won't boot other than with the DVD. When I try booting from the hard drive (one of two in the machine), I get an error telling me "Invalid partition table," and the boot procedure stops. If I boot with the DVD in place, it defaults to "boot from hard disk," and everything starts up just fine. The OS knows exactly how the drives are partitioned, so I'm confident that there's valid partition information somewhere. I'd really like to be able to empty the DVD drive and boot normally from the hard drive. Is there a way write a new partition table to the right place on the hard drive, so I'll be able to boot from it, without requiring the DVD to be in place? Will the partitioner do this for me? If so, I'd appreciate any advice on how to make it happen. Thanks in advance, Jerry in Bothell, WA -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Counter needed
Aaron Kulkis wrote: > > Linux is not Windows, so kindly quit offering solutions which are most > appropriate for that horrific abortion of an O/S. Responses like this make the writer appear to be very young, or very inexperienced with computers, or both. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Thoughts On OS Betas
How well one is served by a beta distribution (of nearly everything, but especially an OS distribution) depends on two major factors: (1) how much of the system you actually use, and (2) how important the particular machine is to you. With regard to (1), the less of a system you actually use, the more likely a beta distribution will work just fine. One of my laptops gets used very lightly, for occasional email and web browsing. 10.3 Beta 1 was great on it. More drivers that I needed were built into the kernel, and there was way less fussing around to get things working than with the 10.2 release. On another machine, 10.3 Beta 1 gave me sound from the onboard sound card, which I never had been able to get working with 10.2. For the first time, I was able to rip some of my CDs to .ogg files and enjoy them through the fairly high-quality speakers connected to that machine. On another laptop, 10.3 Beta 2 has enabled wireless connectivity for the first time. That's a serious advantage for a computer that I can't really use very well connected to an Ethernet cable. With regard to (2), life in the fast lane definitely comes with risks. Although being an early adopter of the newest distribution can be exciting and rewarding, it doesn't make sense to install a beta on a machine that's needed for serious work. Unless, that is, you're willing to risk trashing a file system, or have a great backup system in place. All it takes is common sense, and reasonable precautions. I just finished reinstalling 10.2 on my Linux desktop machine, after I managed to trash one of the disks with 10.3 Beta 1. For me, that computer is a toy, one I built for the express purpose of experimenting with Linux. With my /user area backed up on a separate drive, I was able to restore my email and documents fairly easily. Would I install a beta on a machine I use for serious work, and that I can't afford to have out of operation? Heh. I'm not that dumb. But I sure am enjoying the new openSuSE bits. I can't wait for the stable release! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Recommended Motherboard?
I've built myself a nice Linux desktop, but not without considerable discomfort along the way. I based it on the same CPU/motherboard combo that I'd used to build my XP-Pro machine, because I knew it well after that first experience. But making it all work with Windows was trivial compared with making it all work with Linux! Now my wife's Linux machine (an old HP Pavilion that was otherwise destined for the trash heap) has gone DOA. I want to build her a new replacement, and that's got me wondering if there's a motherboard out there somewhere that's especially Linux-friendly right out of the box. Does any such thing exist? Jerry in Bothell, WA -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: Install or Update?
Rajko M. wrote: > > > > By default GRUB will be installed in boot sector of partition where you > > install new system, but it will be changed active flag too. This works this > > way at least from 10.2. > > > > So if you want your old menu, you have to change active partition back to old > > one, as described in previous post. Than boot to that system and add manually > > entry with chainloader that points to partition with new system. > > > > This will give you your old menu first and when you select 10.3 it will pop up > > new menu. > > > > The way I do it will go direct in 10.3, but I can't see and test quality of > > second menu. I guess that I'll add new menu item 10.3 via chainloader to old > > boot, just to have that option too. > > Thanks everyone, for the help. I have 10.3 b1 up and running just fine now, and it sounds fantastic. Before I made the switch, I copied my /home directory to the spare disk, hda1, and was thus able to copy all my Thunderbird settings and mail store, Firefox favorites, etc., all to my new /home folder after all the dust settled. I even had no problem compiling a new kernel with my NVIDIA 3-D module. The only obvious remaining problem is that I need to boot from the DVD, and select Boot from Hard Drive in order to get 10.3 started. If I remove the DVD and boot from the hard drive, I get my old GRUB, and it offers only 10.2 versions. Is there a simple fix for this? I assume that the 10.3 installation didn't put the boot loader in an expected location, but it sounds like something that can be fixed. Starting it with the DVD in place is just a little annoying, since I'd rather use that drive to listen to CDs. Thanks in advance, Jerry in Bothell, WA -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Install or Update?
I'm keen to try 10.3 beta 1, because I've heard that my sound card driver will be built into the kernel, and I've had no luck getting sound working no this machine by any other means. I downloaded the ISO and burned a DVD, and all seems well, but I'm puzzled about an installation option. I want to be sure that I'll be able to boot my current 10.2 kernel, in case of problems with the beta, because disregarding the sound issue, everything else seems to be pretty well sorted out. I wouldn't want to be unable to access my email store, for example. When I selected the update option, after much checking and evaluating, the installer presented an empty list of installations that could be updated. Checking the "show all partitions" checkbox revealed three. However, I was reluctant to update something without knowing for sure what would happen as a result. If I tell it to do a new installation -- not an update -- will that still leave the old versions available in GRUB? Will I still be able to choose to boot to 10.2., or will a new installation make _everything_ new? Thanks in advance, Jerry in Bothell, WA -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Linux-friendly PCMCIA Wireless Card?
Is there such a thing? I've had more problems than anyone deserves trying to get two laptops (Toshiba and Lenovo) to communicate with my 211g network using the onboard wireless network adapters, and it occurred to me that perhaps there's one on a card that I could use instead. Has anyone here done that, and can recommend a brand/model that will surely be recognized and used by openSuSE 10.2? If so, I'd love to try one, because up to now, the only way I can get network access with those machines is to plug 'em in with a cable. Obviously that defeats the whole purpose of a portable computer. I like to be able to browse the net and answer email downstairs, in my recliner, during commercial breaks on TV, but so far, I can do that only in Windows. Thanks in advance for your thoughts on this, Jerry in Bothell, WA -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] TaskManager Equivalent?
Randall R Schulz wrote: > On Monday 02 July 2007 21:17, Razi Khaja wrote: >> In KDE, Applications -> System -> Monitor -> Performance Monitor >> (KSysGaurd) If its not installed, you can find it in YaST software >> management as kdebase3-ksysgaurdd >> Razi > > If you're running KDE with stock keyboard assignments, then CTRL-ESC > will launch KSysGuard. Cool! Yes, I am. And yes, it does. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] TaskManager Equivalent?
I'm still getting my feet wet with Linux, and looking for equivalents to familiar tools in the Windows environment. Does there exist an approximate equivalent to the Windows TaskManager (taskman.exe)? I'm looking for a way to assure myself that there really IS something happening when there's no apparent activity in the UI. (And if something is indeed happening, just what that something is.) I can't imagine that Linux doesn't have an equivalent, but I haven't found it on my own yet. Thanks, Jerry in Bothell, WA -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Samsung 204b problem
Michael Fischer wrote:
>
> Time to drop a bunch of money on a new machine, and pray I can
> figure a way to save all my files.
You have two things going for you now: (a) a new machine doesn't take
much money anymore, and (b) it's easy to slip an existing drive into an
external USB case and plug it in to the new computer after you get it
built. The ones I bought were from acomdata, and were around $30 each
during a closeout sale at Computer City. The computers died, but my old
correspondence, software, and tax records live on.
It was great to be able to junk the old hardware, but save the disks and
get the files I needed onto the new machine that easily and cheaply.
And with that done, it doesn't hurt to have spare 65 GB and 150 GB
external drives for the odd backup or transfer job. (I use one of mine
to store a bunch of VMs now when I'm not using them.)
If your old case and power supply are still serviceable, you can
probably put in a new motherboard, fast dual core 64-bit AMD, and a
couple GB of memory for $300 or so. Add another hundred for a huge,
fast new hard drive, and you're ready to go for the price of about three
bottles of decent scotch.
I remember my first off-brand XT clone ("American XT") at $3,000, with a
small monochrome monitor and 10 MB drive. Now we can get ten times the
computer for about 1/10 the money.
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Re: [opensuse] Audio Woes
Rajko M. wrote: > > > > The lspci entry tells that your card is different: > > 00:05.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio > > (rev a2) > > Mine is MCP51. > > > > I just found something that might be helpful: > > http://www.suseforums.net/index.php?showtopic=30235 Indeed. Thanks. I was able to assign snd-hda-intel as the driver for the MCP61, according to the suggestions in the forum (via YaST System Settings), but like the person with the problem there, that alone didn't resolve it - YaST Hardware Sound still fails to load snd-hda-intel when I try to configure the existing sound card, or try to add a new one as an MCP51.. Something he tried later did work, however, possibly in addition to the earlier suggestions. From his message: "I installed the new versions of alsa, then did elsewheres thing with the PCI ID, I still got complaints, but when I went to the sound section and changed to MCP 51 (hda) it works!" What I don't understand is the "installed the new versions of alsa" part. I've installed all updates that are available, supposedly, and there was nothing about ALSA in any of them. I don't believe he was talking about a kernel rebuild, because an earlier message from him stated that such would be beyond his skills. Where can I install updates to ALSA? Is there a patch RPG somewhere that will update it? Are there directions somewhere that are simple enough for a Windows software developer to follow? > > One idea would be to try 10.3 alpha 4. It has new kernel. Is it possible to leave 10.2 installed and switch between them? I wouldn't mind trying a new kernel if there's an easy way to return to what I now have. It's annoying not to have sound, but everything else is working very well indeed, and it appears that 10.3 will solve the problem once it's released. I can be patient for that long, if that's the best answer. Thanks again for all your help -- I've learned a lot in a short time! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Audio Woes
Ladislav Slezak wrote: OK, the card is recognized by the system and the problem seems to be driver related... Is there something interesting in /var/log/messages or in 'dmesg' output? Does 'modprobe snd-hda-intel' help? Answering from work, so I can't check on messages right now. I did try modprobe, and there was no output of any kind. No information, no error messages, just a fresh command-line prompt. I assume I didn't need to run that from any particular directory, do I? I did run it from an admin console. The card might not be supported by ALSA, I don't know the current status... That's the impression I got from alsaconf. Its first message was that it couldn't find a PCI card. Is there another place where I should be looking for an updated version of ALSA, or would that come along in the normal course of applying available updates? I've been doing that. As far as I know, this motherboard is reasonably competent, but it's not exactly bleeding-edge. It surprises me that its sound card is so difficult to support. Regards, Jerry in Bothell, WA -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Audio Woes
Rajko M. wrote: > > this mail arrived direct to my inbox. > You should use Reply to All in Thunderbird. It will send 2 emails if you > don't > edit the address field, but it will land in mail list. Sorry about that. I knew that, but it was late, and this is the ONLY list that doesn't reply-to the list, of all the ones I'm subscribed to. Your suggestions to list the PCI devices was a good one; the sound card shows up in slot 5, where the hardware info probe shows it: linux-Alpine:/lib/modules/2.6.18.8-0.3-default/kernel/sound/pci/hda # lspci 00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP61 Memory Controller (rev a1) 00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP61 LPC Bridge (rev a2) 00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation MCP61 SMBus (rev a2) 00:01.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP61 Memory Controller (rev a2) 00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP61 USB Controller (rev a2) 00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP61 USB Controller (rev a2) 00:04.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP61 PCI bridge (rev a1) 00:05.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2) 00:06.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP61 IDE (rev a2) 00:07.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP61 Ethernet (rev a2) 00:08.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP61 SATA Controller (rev a2) 00:09.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP61 PCI Express bridge (rev a2) 00:0b.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP61 PCI Express bridge (rev a2) 00:0c.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP61 PCI Express bridge (rev a2) 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control 01:05.0 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43) 01:05.1 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43) 01:05.2 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB 2.0 (rev 04) 01:06.0 Ethernet controller: ADMtek NC100 Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100 (rev 11) 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 7300 GS (rev a1) And hwinfo displays the same information as before: 18: PCI 05.0: 0403 Audio device [Created at pci.286] UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_10de_3f0 Unique ID: CvwD.aVYG86RKEd7 SysFS ID: /devices/pci:00/:00:05.0 SysFS BusID: :00:05.0 Hardware Class: sound Model: "Elitegroup Audio device" Vendor: pci 0x10de "nVidia Corporation" Device: pci 0x03f0 SubVendor: pci 0x1019 "Elitegroup Computer Systems" SubDevice: pci 0xa88d Revision: 0xa2 Memory Range: 0xfe028000-0xfe02bfff (rw,non-prefetchable) IRQ: 11 (no events) Module Alias: "pci:v10DEd03F0sv1019sdA88Dbc04sc03i00" Config Status: cfg=no, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown The two files were were you said to expect them, so I'm not sure why YaST said that it couldn't find the module. Does any of this give you any ideas I should try? I hope it doesn't turn out to be something really stupid, like the speaker/mic cables plugged into the motherboard incorrectly! I'll double-check all that when I get home from work today. Thanks again for all your help, Jerry in Bothell, WA -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Audio Woes
I'm having a really hard time setting up the audio support on the computer I built for SuSE 10.2, and I'm hoping to find someone who's been here, done that. The sound card is onboard, on an Elitegroup motherboard, and YaST2's hardware information identifies it as a PCI "Elitegroup audio device," with the vendor nVidia. I'm not sure what other bits of info from there are important in identifying it. Hardware setup says it's an nVidia sound card, and that it's not configured. When I try to configure it, an error comes back saying that module snd-hda-intel can't be located. (Hardware info tells me that IRQ 11 is enabled, and the sound card memory is active.) All the Linux support I could find on www.nVidia.com was for their graphics cards. Does any of this sound familiar to anyone? Thanks in advance for any help with it! Jerry in Bothell, WA -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: vpnc problem - loosing local network after successful remote login
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Clayton wrote: >> Perhaps, isn't it this? >> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=134480 > > Possibly not 100% sure. I was tinkering with it again last night. > I was able to connect, and this time I left the connection open... > after a rather long time my network connection came back. I had > limited connectivity... very limited, but it was working, and ALL > network traffic was being routed through the VPN connection. That's > the next thing I need to look into... I need/want to route only some > network traffic through the VPN connection, and the rest via my own > ISP. I don't think that's possible, because VPN is a tunneling protocol. One of the downsides of using it to contact machines in my office, for example, is that if I do any web browsing or check personal email while I'm connected, it all runs through our network at work. So I connect, check my email or whatever, then disconnect. > I have no idea though why after negotiating a connection that it takes > several minutes for the NIC to return to an "alive" state No idea either. Good luck with it. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGVtbGdqy7mNl00FsRAqbYAJ440z23SsN2SeikkrbDlxfeTiUFCACfSP74 7GEQhK/iNUUxamH35JOllvs= =g6kC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Wireless PCI card
Matthew Stringer wrote: since moving house there's no socket to plug my PC in so will have to use wireless, can anyone recommend a PCI card for use with 10.2? Was thinking of using a netgear one, unless folks here say otherwise. Friends who have been involved with Linux and wireless for a long time have told me that Orinoco Gold is the way to go. Just plain works, out of the box, according to them. I got a LinkSys card that I already owned to work with ndiswrapper, but if I were buying new cards, I'd sure go for the Orinoco Gold. Apparently YaST already knows all about them. Good luck with your wireless adventure! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Recommended Video Card?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Curtis Rey wrote: > > I hadn't thought about ATI cards and not using the binary drivers. This too > would a viable course as well - for myself I use the 3d drivers because I > game in Linux and without these the frames rates are more like a slide show. Thanks to _everyone_ for your suggestions. The first one was NVIDIA, and mentioned that there is support for their cards. While I was out picking up a copy of Pan's Labyrinth at Circuit City today, I found an e-GeForce 7300 GS there, at a trivial price. Figuring that if it didn't work for me here, I'd stick it in a Windows machine sometime, I went ahead and bought it. It turns out the installation was pretty painless. (Well, there was that thing about booting to console mode, but I used sax2 to reconfigure the graphics, and all was well after that.) It sure made a difference! Just scrolling through a message in Thunderbird, or a web page in Firefox was painful before. Now it works great, and the Motocross game even recognizes it as a 3D graphics card. Again, thanks for all the suggestions. Luckily for me, the first suggestion turned out to work well. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGT+ZBdqy7mNl00FsRAhA5AJ9MGfaEa0zD93rmzpG9REFTUlI2iQCgk26P Yfn6+Ju2/88s/Znelfv4QKc= =eGO2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Recommended Video Card?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 That's probably a pretty big question, but one I could really appreciate some help with. I got the new Linux machine up and running last night, and it went fairly well. I had problems getting the 64-bit distribution installed (I think I recall a message about it's not liking SATA DVD drives, and the symptom was that during the installation, it couldn't mount my CD), so that made the decision for me to go ahead with the 32-bit distro, just to move along. In fact, it may be quite a while before I exceed 2 GB of memory on this box, so that may end up being the best, after all. I couldn't get Linux to recognize the onboard NIC, but I had plenty of unused 10/100 PCI cards from back before we went wireless here, and the Linux box is within four feet of my router, so that problem was easily solved. And the Ethernet connection is faster than our wireless anyway. The only remaining problem is that the onboard video really sucks, because it's running in default VGA mode. Perhaps with some research, I could find out how to get Linux to recognize it, but I figured that would be wasted effort if I'm going to install a 3D card of some kind anyway. So that finally brings me to my question for this esteemed assembly: What's a good idea for a graphics card for someone who's NOT a gamer, but simply wants good responsive graphic output? And will be well supported by SuSE 10.2? With my present monitor, it only needs to support 1280x1024, but I wouldn't want to box myself in, in that regard. I guess I'm looking for a recommendation of a "best buy" in this area, and it's not something I've had a lot of experience with. In my work, and at home, I've always had computers that simply came with adequate graphics cards to start with, so I've never been in the market before. What's a good card that Linux will find easy to work with? Thanks in advance for your suggestions! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGT99rdqy7mNl00FsRAtfIAJwImihQAJBoCr1+ZX5rz5OpLiO06QCgku2t EkoxBFFRaOvV3hHbYbpzjsA= =5ubO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] parse-metadata
M Harris wrote: I am noticing that a significant amount of open source software is emerging from the C# development platform. Is the runtime 'open' (free 'as in freedom' software)? I am genuinely curious, is your current C# career in commercial programming for client side, server side? What percentage is FOSS? The Microsoft has released the specs of its .NET runtime so that others can develop languages that address it. That's not my focus, though, so I've never looked into all the details. It's certainly been "open" enough to allow mono to be created. My own work is strictly commercial, none of it open source. (Around these parts FOSS is a tugboat company, so I had to look up what you meant.) Our company is the leading provider of insurance agency management software in our market, and we use .NET runtime support on both client and server sides. Our data center relies on ASP.NET and ADO.NET, and our user presentation is a combination of local winforms and webforms served from the data center. I personally have done mostly winform and webservice development, besides creating a lot of development tools. Others in our office concentrate on DBA work and webform development. The other thing I would like to know (all fud symantics and bias aside) from someone devoted to using C# for the last five years, do you think that the perceived performance problems of C#.NET programming is due to the experience/quality of the products themselves, or is it inherent in the (CLR) runtime? I remember when I was doing Java some time back I loved the language but I hated the runtime... and I didn't like JIT that much better. What's your take? Seems to me that every development/runtime environment has advantages and disadvantages, and they need to be weighed. We don't run up against unacceptable performance penalties in the work that we do, and the many advantages of the CLR mean a lot to us. Just having a decent GC makes a lot of code more robust than it otherwise might be, and reduces the cost of development significantly. I remember intense debugging sessions trying to track down COM handles that hadn't been released, or memory allocations that were never freed, and they're not fond memories. Smart pointers can only help so much. The CLR has matured a lot, now with v2.0, and C# v2.0 has added a lot of welcome features, like partial classes, generics, and improved functionality in a lot of the namespaces. Just having a decent string class makes a lot of work easier. Developing sophisticated applications with .NET is simply less work than it would be otherwise, less frustrating and more fun. And it's gratifying to get things up and working quickly, especially if they work well. The C in CLR stands for "common," of course, and C# isn't the only language available. It's the one that makes the most sense to me, though, as someone who has come up through the assembler to C to C++ path throughout my career. It's all the good stuff from C++ without any of the bad parts, plus a huge runtime library that supports just about anything you might need to do. Now that I've finally gotten more involved with Linux, I'm looking forward to finding out what state mono is in. I subscribed to some mono mailing lists around the time it first got started, but after quite a while it seemed not to be going anywhere very fast. From comments I've read recently, that seems to have changed for the better. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] parse-metadata
M Harris wrote: On Thursday 17 May 2007 17:52, Jerry Houston wrote: I wrote a C textbook more than 20 years ago. I remember it well... about the same time the K&R 2nd ed., and about the same time as the C ansi standard. Ever thought of doing a 2nd ed? --- including GNU/c|c++ ? Nope, haven't given it a thought. I quit teaching about 10 years ago, too. I got tired of writing about it and talking about it, and just wanted to DO it. I've never looked back. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] parse-metadata
Randall R Schulz wrote: I think you might be misinterpreting that quotation. I read it as saying that problems perceived in the older languages informed CLR and C# in the sense that an understanding of those flaws and shortcomings allowed them to be avoided or ameliorated in the newer design. I know very little about CLR and C# nor have I ever heard of Anders Hejlsberg, for what it's worth. I think you're correct in your interpretation. For the record, I've been at this for a while -- I wrote a C textbook more than 20 years ago. However, I've also earned a good living for the last 5 years writing commercial software in C#, and it has become my all-time favorite programming language. It's not something to be scorned simply because Microsoft developed it (unless that's the guiding force in your life, I suppose). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] ndiswrapper Help Appreciated
Russell Jones wrote: Jerry Houston wrote: Mike McMullin wrote: IIRC Atheros is better served by mad-wifi. Go the the opensuse site and search for mad-wifi and/or Atheros. There is adequate info there to allow you to get it up and running under 10.2. Indeed, it seems so. Thanks to everyone for your help with this. And thanks to Atheros for opening their specs so a driver could be created. Do send a quick mail to Atheros saying so! It'll make them more likely to keep their specs open. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (from http://www.atheros.com/contact/index.html ) As soon as I get it working. So far, it contacts the base station and displays the available local networks, but nothing I've done so far has enabled it to connect to mine. Your point is well taken, however, and something I hadn't thought of until you mentioned it. Jerry in Bothell, WA -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Dell Inspiron 6400 + OpenSUSE 10.2 experience?
Mohammad Bhuyan wrote: Anybody with Dell Inspiron 6400 + OpenSUSE 10.2 experience. My default installation is causing lots of trouble. Frequent boot time hang (Primarily at "activating device mapper ...") and high frequency FireFox crashes (that's where I spend most of my time, so really "high frequency", definitely not usual for a stable release). Mostly FireFox stops responding and I need to kill it. How're your temperatures? I don't have a Dell Inspiron, but I do have a Toshiba laptop in which I increased the RAM from the original 512 MB to 2 GB. I don't know if it's because of the increased memory or because it's a couple of years old and probably dusty inside, but now it often overheats. The symptom in Linux is that everything becomes unresponsive except the mouse. However, I'm pretty sure what the problem is, because when the machine is booted to Windows XP and this happens, it simply shuts down. It appears to be two different responses to the same situation, and the Linux response seems very much like what you're describing. Jerry in Bothell, WA -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 32-bit vs 64-bit
Joe Morris (NTM) wrote: Jerry Houston wrote: I'll be using an Athlon dual-core 64-bit chip, 2 GB of dual-channel RAM, and at least until the recent conversations, I had been planning on installing the current "stable" 64-bit OpenSuSE distro. Sounds like a good and reasonable plan. I have been running x86_64 since 9.1 (presently 10.2). I find the learning experience to be even better. Thanks for everyone's comments. The case, CPU, memory, drives and all arrive tomorrow, and tonight I'm like a kid on Christmas eve. I'm gonna go to bed early, then get up and go to work early, so I can come home shortly after noon. I hope I can get some sleep. I'm definitely going with the 64-bit system, at least to start with, if no more than to say that I've done it. The last computer I built on the same GeForce 6100 motherboard has XP-Pro installed, and since the MB came with a CD full of Windows drivers and utilities, it was pretty easy to get all the devices in a row. I hope that SuSE 64 will find all those onboard components to its liking. If so, then I think this is gonna be fun. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 32-bit vs 64-bit
Randall R Schulz wrote: Since you're explicitly embarking on this as a learning experience, you could always set up a dual-boot configuration for "compare and contrast" purposes. I'm really not up on it, but perhaps you could use Xen or one of the other virtualization systems to have both at once. Since you've got a dual-core processor, it should perform pretty well, though 2GB is even more restrictive in a concurrent dual-OS situation. Thanks for your comments, Randall. The motherboard I'll be using has room for two RAM modules, and although it supports up to 8 GB in each (16 GB total), it's not easy to find modules that big. And even 2 GB modules are pretty expensive for a toy. The dual-boot idea is a good one, and one I hadn't thought about. I dual-boot Windows XP and Linux on one of my laptops, but it didn't occur to me to do it with two versions of Linux. Thanks! You've gotten me curious about virtualization as well. I use VirtualPC, VirtualServer, and various VMware products on XP-Pro and Server 2003, but never experimented with VM's on Linux. (I've never had Linux running on a machine with that much horsepower.) That sounds like an adventure, too. Thanks again for the help, Jerry in Bothell, WA -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] 32-bit vs 64-bit
I've been reading with interest the recent threads about 64-bit installations. I'm in the process of building a new computer, strictly to play with Linux on something other than a clapped-out old beater. (All the parts will arrive tomorrow from NewEgg.com, so today seems a little like Christmas eve to me.) It's not needed for work, or any other purpose other than having fun and learning more about Linux. (I work all day writing commercial Windows business software.) I'll be using an Athlon dual-core 64-bit chip, 2 GB of dual-channel RAM, and at least until the recent conversations, I had been planning on installing the current "stable" 64-bit OpenSuSE distro. Given the circumstances I've described, would that (a) be a worthwhile learning experience, (b) appear no different than a 32-bit installation, (c) be nothing but trouble, or (d) something else? If (a), I'm looking forward to using my first ever 64-bit computer. Otherwise, I'll just install the 32-bit distro, and continue my Linux education on that. Thanks in advance for your comments. Jerry in Bothell, WA -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] ndiswrapper Help Appreciated
Mike McMullin wrote: IIRC Atheros is better served by mad-wifi. Go the the opensuse site and search for mad-wifi and/or Atheros. There is adequate info there to allow you to get it up and running under 10.2. Indeed, it seems so. Thanks to everyone for your help with this. And thanks to Atheros for opening their specs so a driver could be created. I've gotten the module installed, and at least partially working, because the NetworkManager applet is able to display the available wireless networks. When I try to connect to mine, though, it keeps asking for security info, despite that I've given it a correct WEP type and value. Still, this is farther than I've ever gotten before with Linux on this laptop. Once I get the security issue solved, I should be able to do real things with Linux on this machine. Thanks again! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] ndiswrapper Help Appreciated
I'm fairly new to Linux, but not quite a total novice. I've set up a little Linux machine for my wife, using ndiswrapper to install a LinkSys wireless NIC. I had very little trouble with that, and her machine connects to our network without a problem. However, trying to do the same for my Toshiba Satellite P-35 laptop has turned out to be quite an adventure. Although ndiswrapper confirms that the driver has been installed correctly, and that the right hardware is present, I haven't been able to connect to our WAP at all. The NetworkManager icon (SuSE 10.2) just continues saying "no connection." If it's simply impossible to use ndiswrapper with this Atheros wireless card, it would save me a lot of trouble to know that. On the other hand, if anyone here has actually gotten one of these set up and working, I'd sure like to have a chat with you! Regards, Jerry Bothell, WA -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
