Re: [Origami] CoC—Being Too Specific in Language
If you followed some of the other posts from yesterday, Anne posted a link to a very interesting page on common mistakes in CoC writing, including this specific issue: That an enumerated list of “don’ts” has legal issues. Which was one of my essential objections. That page also has a good example CoC that I think is great. If you missed her email – here is the link https://www.codemag.com/article/1601021/Legal-Notes-Code-of-Conduct It is worth reading. It is short but bakes very clear and strong arguments about a better CoC. >From the intro para of that page: “ I believe codes of conduct for any event, whether it’s a software conference, convention, or sporting event, etc., is a good idea. At the same time, I don’t believe an event’s worthwhileness turns on the presence or absence of a code of conduct. If you’re going to implement a code of conduct, it needs to be reasonable, clear in its intent, and, above all, enforceable. In addition, before you decide to implement a code of conduct, you should be clear about the potential liability that can be incurred as a result of implementing such a code. “ In the section about enumerated lists: “First, there is a pattern of having enumerated lists to define entities. In the first paragraph, it was the list of persons covered. In this paragraph, it’s a list of protected traits. Whenever there are lists such as these, they become words of limitation, meaning that if something is not contained in the list and there was an opportunity to have a more inclusive list, there’s a strong argument that the omitted term was not meant to be covered.” He also speaks to the “actions”. Stating that some action WILL be taken is an issue, as not all reports should result in any action, much less drastic action. He suggests promising investigation, wit appropriate action to be taken. Again – here is the text of his suggestion – obviously this needs fleshing out for the “origami convention specifics” such as not disrupting class, not touching someone’s model without asking etc. But at it’s core it is along the lines of what I was suggesting – work from the assumption that we all KNOW what is civil vs uncivil behavior and just refer to that. We have to discuss this more on this end, but we are likely going to end up with something very closely based on the below. John P.S. Again – Thank you Anne. I had looked around but had not found anything like this. Who is covered? Anyone who is affiliated with this Conference (The “Participant”) is expected to conduct oneself in a civil manner and treat any other Participant with respect and civility. (The “Standard of Conduct”). A Participant includes, but is not limited to any Conference attendee, guest, sponsor, or staff. What is covered? The Standard of Conduct is defined by what is deemed to be generally accepted by the Conference; the conference location (the ”Venue”); the Venue’s own standards of conduct, rules and regulations; or any legal authority of which the Venue or Participant is subject. Any other conduct by a Participant that otherwise disrupts another Participant’s Conference experience shall be covered as well. How is this enforced? Only timely and directly reports of violations with sufficient factual details to the Conference can be investigated. Upon investigation, allegations may result in sanctions including, but not limited to expulsion from the Conference and Venue without recourse. Any report deemed to have not been made in good faith or with a reasonable factual basis shall be treated as a violation. Investigations and sanctions imposed shall be conducted and determined in the sole discretion of the Conference. Nothing in this Standard of Conduct interferes with or discourages a Participant from exercising his or her right to contact the Venue and/or law enforcement directly and in such a case; the Conference shall fully cooperate with the Venue and law enforcement. From: Origami On Behalf Of Carol Martinson Sent: Monday, May 17, 2021 6:31 PM To: The Origami Mailing List Subject: Re: [Origami] CoC—Being Too Specific in Language Malachi, While that is worded differently than what the library had in the same category, to me it appears fine. Apparently the problem is my misunderstanding what we each meant by the words “exact” and “specific”. I apologize for misinterpreting your overall intent. Carol Martinson Sent from my iPad On May 17, 2021, at 1:02 PM, Malachi Brown mailto:malac...@gmail.com> > wrote: On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 11:18 AM Carol Martinson via Origami mailto:origami@lists.digitalorigami.com> > wrote: If I am interpreting what he is trying to say correctly, people need the specific words and actions named so they know what is and is not allowed. Acceptable behaviors vary widely from culture to culture so they may need specific actions lis
Re: [Origami] CoC - Focus
That is what we are considering – a “please address me as ” line, or something similar. With the obvious problem that people do NOT pay attention and will walk up to someone wearing a “My name is TOM” badge and say “Dave! Have not seen you in a while” From: Origami On Behalf Of KDianne Stephens Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 10:15 AM To: 'The Origami Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Origami] CoC - Focus >Vishakha said “…ppl may need that specificity of their gender pronoun to feel >comfortable in public fora …” Pronoun inclusion on convention name tags may be an efficient solution to meet this need. Orifun to all, Dianne
Re: [Origami] CoC - Kicking off the Discussion
Sorry Joseph, are you saying that you have hacked my facebook, email and phones and know the exact details of every conversation I have had with anyone over the last two years? If not, then please do not impugn my character by implying that I am lying. You do not know what people have asked for. Considering that several other people who have responded in this conversation relayed very similar issues should put that top bed. There are very real problems with this kind of document ending up with extreme language due to a very vocal minority. As to arguments on facebook – don’t go there. That is NOT part of this conversation as per Anne’s request, and YOU use personal insults and bullying tactics in place of making arguments on facebook. You even stated that in a reply to Kate – that you were deliberately insulting me with the hope of provoking a response. How about you and I ignore each other, hopefully for the remainder of the life of the universe? I have zero respect for you and do not wish to converse with you in any form, ever. This will be the last response I make to you on this forum, or in fact any other. To the moderators – I do not think any further messages on this thread between Joseph and myself should be posted. Just reject anything wither of us says if it references the other. John From: Origami On Behalf Of Joseph Wu Sent: Monday, May 17, 2021 10:41 AM To: The Origami Mailing List Subject: Re: [Origami] CoC - Kicking off the Discussion On May 16, 2021, at 17:05, John Scully mailto:jscu...@ohiopaperfolders.com> > wrote: The background is that since the first person asked us about one a little over a year ago we have had maybe six people make what range from suggestions to demands about what should be included. The reason I pushed back so strongly was some of those demands. John, Can we please start with an attempt to discuss this in good faith? Your narrative of being the victim of unreasonable demands differs greatly from the accounts of trying to talk to you about this topic that I have heard from some of those “maybe six people”. Watching the way you present arguments on Facebook, it is pretty obvious that you like to sprinkle these sort of subtle stabs at the people you are arguing against in order to detract from their credibility. This sort of behavior is not conducive to a good faith discussion of the sort that Anne has set up for us here. Indeed, I question the need to bring up the circumstances of the argument about CenterFold’s code of conduct (or lack thereof) when this discussion is supposed to be about the pros and cons of codes of conduct in general. “The background” of the CenterFold situation is not relevant. Please stick to the topic at hand and take care not to impugn the characters of others. Thank you. -- Joseph Wu, Origami Artist (via iPhone) e: josep...@origami.as <mailto:josep...@origami.as> w: http://www.origami.as flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/josephwuorigami/ facebook: http://www.facebook.com/joseph.wu.origami
Re: [Origami] CoC—Being Too Specific in Language
The problem (in my and many other’s opinion) with “use of sexist, racist, ableist, or any other discriminatory or exclusionary language” is that those terms are open to wildly varying interpretation. What person X considers normal speech, person Y considers offensive. Who is the judge? Remember my specific example – we were asked last year to tell people in the welcome meeting at the convention that they should not use gender pronouns AT ALL, because “someone may be offended, even if not part of that conversation”. And what is “exclusionary language”? Talk about an overly broad term! I just read a paper on that…some good points. A lot of crazy ones…wait! That was one right there! “Never use the word crazy even in reference to yourself “That makes me crazy” because someone who has issues with mental health may take offense” This paper lists about 200 very, very common words and phrases that “should be purged from all language”. Too far…too far. Plus, there is a difference between using language that should be expected to cause offense (obvious example, using the “n-word”) and using standard language, telling a joke, doing the standard guy thing of insulting your friends… Now…MAYBE add in intent there. As in “use of sexist, racist, ableist, or any other discriminatory language with the intention to cause offense”. That is still subject to interpretation, but allows some common sense to be applied. Examples: “I overheard person X talking to person Y and they used CIS gender pronouns!” Answer “Yup. Nothing wrong with that. Sorry you got offended, but people are allowed to do that” Vs “I asked person X to please address me as ZZZ, but he then continued to deliberately address me as XXX even when I reminded him”. Sounds like that was deliberate, we will speak to him and ask him to address you the way you want or just not converse with you. Vs “I asked person X to please address me as ZZZ, but then he occasionally addressed me as XXX”. Sounds like he was trying, but he has known you for 20 years and he is forgetting. Perhaps YOU should politely remind him, since it sounds like it is accidental” See what I mean? A “use of blah blah language” means you are telling people to change their speech habits in toto, no matter who they are conversing with. It does not matter that that is not YOUR intent when suggesting the language, that is how some people will try to apply it. John Scully From: Origami On Behalf Of Malachi Brown Sent: Monday, May 17, 2021 1:16 PM To: The Origami Mailing List Subject: Re: [Origami] CoC—Being Too Specific in Language On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 11:18 AM Carol Martinson via Origami mailto:origami@lists.digitalorigami.com> > wrote: If I am interpreting what he is trying to say correctly, people need the specific words and actions named so they know what is and is not allowed. Acceptable behaviors vary widely from culture to culture so they may need specific actions listed to know what is expected. I believe you misunderstood what I was trying to say or I am misunderstanding what you are trying to say. I think, at least for an event CoC, there is a balance that can be struck between the very vague and open to interpretation "don't be a jerk" and the overly specific enumeration of all words and actions that qualify as harassment. I specifically referenced the OUSA CoC because it does enumerate several types of discrimination that are specifically prohibited which gives the person reading it an understanding of what is not acceptable. I don't think specific words or actions need to be spelled out, but that it is useful to know what areas are covered by the policy. So, maybe we can clarify this point. From the OUSA CoC, do you consider the following to be overly specific? * offensive communication related to gender, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance, body size, race, religion, and age. * use of sexist, racist, ableist, or any other discriminatory or exclusionary language. thanks, malachi
Re: [Origami] CoC — Volunteering Offer
Thank you Carol - we will take you up on that. I was writing my last message as yours was coming in, so I just saw it. On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 7:09 PM Carol Martinson via Origami < origami@lists.digitalorigami.com> wrote: > As a now retired public librarian from a Midwestern fairly large urban > library system, I have helped write Code of Conducts and have banned people > from all the library facilities on my own authority for periods up to three > months. Longer periods of banishment had to be determined by the library > administration. > > Centerfold has not wanted to write a Code of Conduct, feeling it was > unnecessary in a smaller venue. Unfortunately, now that the issue has been > brought up, it has become necessary. People are now aware of the lack of a > CoC and feel unsafe, or at least unsettled, that there is not one. > Perceptions are important, and this won’t go away. > > A CoC does not mean that the convention would suddenly become safe. > Incidents occur. What a CoC does, however, is make victims feel that their > complaints will be taken seriously and that there will not be any > retaliation for reporting an incident — and that help can be obtained and > problems will be solved and worked on. It protects organizers from being > accused of ignoring potential problems or discriminating against an > individual. It also serves to tell attendees that there will be > consequences for unacceptable behavior. > > In reply to the email that was sent by Monica, I volunteered to help write > a CoC for Centerfold and a form to take reports of incidents. I said the > easiest route with only two months before the convention would be to adopt > OUSA’s CoC for this convention, and I assumed an Ohio specific CoC could be > written later, but I have since learned that Ohio does not want to use > OUSA’s CoC. That is fine. There are many examples to choose from and > other people can do that. > > What I can uniquely provide is a standard reporting form, and if desired, > some quick remedial training in using unbiased language in filling out such > forms. If this convention does end up being held, a better form more > adapted to the convention can be developed later. I can also make > suggestions as to varying levels of consequences, but others will be more > qualified to do that than me. > > I hope this offer is taken seriously. Other people have also made offers > to help and mediate, but it seems to have reached a point people are not > capable of actually hearing what is being said. > > Carol Martinson > > Sent from my iPad >
Re: [Origami] CoC - Kicking off the Discussion
to "don't be a jerk" (not in those words). Remember - this is specifically NOT about harassment, assault or any other serious offence. Keep in mind that this cuts both ways. One person who has been pushing for an anti-harassment policy which would include any insult as harassment has publicly stated that "Everyone who voted for Trump should be put through the woodchipper" accompanied by a shot from the movie fargo with Steve Buscemie's foot sticking out of the woodchipper. No one should be making deliberately insulting/inflammatory statements like that at a convention, but is it our place to take action if they do, and if so, what action? Where/how do we draw that line? I do know that most of you would reply to this and say "That is not what we are talking about!", but that is very much what has been requested of us by a few (like two) people. "confidential" I have no issue with. " Anonymous" I do. 4) What reporting mechanisms should there be? Stated escalation path? i.e. you report it to someone, they say "eh...not going to get involved". Should there be a next level contact? That is what I am planning. I feel that there should be a clear differentiation between potentially criminal conduct and "things that make you uncomfortable", with a statement that you can report the former directly to the police if you are not immediately satisfied by the response from the convention admins. I also think any non-direct contact method such as email needs a strong disclaimer that it should not be used to report anything urgent. i.e. "'emails may not be seen for hours. If you are reporting something that requires immediate action please report it in person or by calling xxx". Back to the question of "not acting on every report" because some will not require any action...should we log those in some way, along with the reason we did not take action? Or I suppose I am saying we should log any report, with action taken or reason none was taken. John Scully On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 4:03 PM Elizabeth Johnson wrote: > Hello everyone! > > > Anne thought it would be helpful if I presented an intro to this topic, in > the interest of kicking off the discussion. As a somewhat neutral party > that was not directly involved in any of the precipitating events, and who > was also not a major player in the Facebook discussion, I’ve done my best > to try to represent this issue, and the concerns of those involved, fairly > and accurately. > > > ... >
[Origami] Ohio Origami Convention Update
We are on pace for a great convention again this year! We are a month out and already have 20% more people registered than total last year. But still plenty of room for more. CenterFold is a fun, friendly three day origami convention in Columbus Ohio. Special guests this year are Michael LaFosse, Richard Alexander,. Maria Sinayskaya and Shuki Kato. If you have never been to an origami convention come give us a try. In addition to the more than 70 classes, special panel/workshops such as backcoating and wet folding. We are in a very nice convention hotel, and all classes are in the hotel. More info at http://www.ohiopaperfolders.com And as usual we will be collecting origami ornaments for Children's hospitals, running a silent auction to raise money for our community programs (teaching origami in schools, libraries, hospitals all over the state) and much more. If you have any origami books or materials you would like to donate to us (we are a 501C3 non-profit), please let us know. If you are attending CenterFold and wish to teach a class please post it now! We already have about 50 classes listed (see http://www.ohiopaperfolders.com ). Note that the advanced and complex classes are usually the last ones added so not a lot of those up yet. Please call or email if you have any questions John Scully 740-334-4213 jscu...@ohiopaperfolders.com
[Origami] CenterFold 2016 - July 28th through July 31st 2016
Just wanted to let everyone know that early-bird registration is online for the Ohio origami convention, CenterFold 2016. Guests of honor are John Montroll, Ekaterina Lukasheva and Quentin Trollip. As it has been for the last four years the convention is at the Holiday Inn Hotel and Convention Center in Worthington Ohio. Everything is on one level (two minutes from great room to furthest class room!). The hotel is surrounded by restaurants and shopping (including a full service grocery store across the street), and all rooms have refrigerators. Hotel rooms are $89. Multiple occupancy allowed, so you can share rooms. There is a shuttle from the airport ($15 I think). So - if you have never been to CenterFold, give us a try this year. We pride ourselves on running a friendly, laid-back convention where everyone can get into classes, and the special guests are hanging out with everyone. Early-bird discounts! $150.00 until April 1, $175 fromApril1 to May 31, then $190 after that. Thursday the 28th is a laid-back, casual folding day. Scheduled classes Fri-Sat-Sun. Call or email with any questions. Registration is online at http://www.ohiopaperfolders.com. John Scully jscu...@ohiopaperfolders.com <mailto:jscu...@ohiopaperfolders.com> 740-334-4213
[Origami] Children's Hospital origami books and paper project
Just a quick update on how the fund raising is going. At the OUSA annual convention in New York we raised a little over $700 At CenterFold this past weekend we raised $1,300 from the silent auction, plus another $1,650 in direct donations from attendees. And also over the weekend we received a $2,300 anonymous donation, plus $450 from a local physician. Total raised over the weekend: $5,700, bringing our current total to almost $9,400. For those who may not have heard about this project, we are working to raise $53,000 to provide 100 origami books and 100 packages of paper to each of almost 200 children's hospitals in the US. The intent is for kids to be able to have a book and package of paper to keep and take home. So - please help us reach our goal. Make a donation at www.gofundme.com/origamiforhospital <http://www.gofundme.com/origamiforhospital> or send a check to: Ohio Paper Folders P.O. Box 264 Granville Ohio 43023 Make the memo line "Donation - Hospital Origami" Thank you to everyone who is supporting this project! John Scully & Monica Salisbury Ohio Paper Folders
[Origami] Origami for children's hospitals
We are doing pretty well so far with our fund raiser to provide origami books and paper to children’s hospitals across the US, but we need your help! The project is simple to explain: We are working to raise $53,000 to provide 100 origami books and 100 packages of paper to all 192 children’s hospitals in the US. We will be self-publishing four titles, each with 10-12 models. So each hospital will receive 25 copies of 4 different books. The intent is for kids to be able to have a book and paper to keep. Important update: While at the OUSA convention last weekend, we received a firm offer from one person that when we hit $15,000, they will match it. So any donations you make now, or have already made will be doubled! So PLEASE go to http://www.gofundme.com/origamiforhospital and make a donation. $5 or $500 – it all adds up. Seriously...this is a great project, but we need your assistance to reach our goal. We are a registered 501c3 non-profit. Call or email with any questions John Scully & Monica Salisbury Ohio Paper Folders jscu...@ohiopaperfolders.com 740-334-4213
[Origami] CenterFold update
Just a quick update on CenterFold 2015. Everything is rolling along for another great convention. Come join us July 30th-Aug 2nd for CenterFold 2015 in Columbus Ohio. Guests of honor Robert Lang, Meenakshi Mukerji, Eric Gjerde, Jon Tucker and Jared Needle. 70+ classes plus several special workshops in a small convention hotel. All on one level, surrounded by shops and restaurants. In addition to paper making, paper marbling and PMC workshops, we will have several special panel discussions/demonstrations with hands on participation from the audience. These will be: Wet folding: Don’t be afraid of the water! Panel discussion with several top wet folders, plus a demo and hands on play. Back coating: Make your own duo paper, combine sheets to make larger paper or change the characteristics by combining different sheets. This one may get messy – hands on participation! Coloring paper: dry vs wet pigments and paints, what fixatives to use etc. More information and registration online at www.ohiopaperfolders.com John Scully jscu...@ohiopaperfolders.com 740-334-4213
[Origami] Origami books and Paper for Children's Hospitals
Ohio Paper Folders has launched a gofundme campaign to raise money to provide origami books and paper to children's hospitals all over North America. Each hospital will receive twenty-five each of four different 44 page 6x9 inch full color origami books and 100 50-sheet packages of origami paper, so kids do not just get to just use an origami book, but take one home with them. The more we raise, the lower the unit cost will be, because we will be able to place orders directly with the manufacturers in Asia for 20,000 to 30,000 packages of paper, plus of course the printing costs go WAY down per book when we are talking about 5,000 of each book instead of just a few hundred. But - even if we only raise five thousand Dollars we can still supply ten hospitals. At ten thousand we can supply twenty. At fifteen thousand, our unit costs start to drop and we can supply forty hospitals, at twenty-eight thousand we can supply one hundred, and at forty-one thousand almost two hundred hospitals. That is more than enough to do all 190 children's hospitals in the country! Now - what do you get in return, other than the great feeling from spreading the joy of origami? We thought about that for a long time before we came up with something of real value to the donors that does not use up the funds we are raising. Well, since we sell origami paper at shop.ohiopaperfolders.com, we can give you discounts on future purchases of paper - up to a 35% discount for life at the higher donation levels. Please support our project by making a donation, and please share this out to others! To make a donation or for more information, please visit http://www.gofundme.com/origamiForHospital Or contact me at jscu...@ohiopaperfolders.com John Scully Ohio Paper Folders 740-334-4213 jscu...@ohiopaperfolders.com
[Origami] O-gami juried show
The good people at the paper circle asked us to send out another message about their upcoming juried origami show. OhiO-gami 2015 Juried Origami Exhibit http://www.papercircle.org/2015-03-25-16-46-51/ohio-gami-exhibit-info.html We are excited about this juried show and hope that you'll register to participate and tell your friends and other folders about this show. Please visit the registration page to sign up to participate in this wonderful exhibit opportunity. Your entry does not have to be made of O-gami paper in order to enter. But if you wish to be considered for the prize awards your piece must be made with O-gami paper, available online and at Paper Circle, www.papercircle.org. Registration This juried show is open to everyone. However, if you are under 18, please make sure you have your parents' consent to participate. There are two divisions -1. Amateur which for our purposes includes everyone who hasn't earned at least $14,999.99 in a year from their origami work. 2. Professional which will include all individuals who have earned $15,000 or more in a year from their origami work. Registration fee will be $25 (non-refundable) for Amateurs to submit 3 works for consideration for the juried show. You will be allowed up to 4 images (photographs) per submitted work (1 - full image of piece, and up to 3 additional detail shots). This means you can upload a total of 12 images to represent your 3 submitted works. You will receive a 15% discount code for the purchase of O-gami paper upon completion of your registration. The registration fee for Professionals will be $40 (non-refundable) to submit 3 works for consideration for the juried show. You will be allowed up to 4 images (photographs) per submitted work (1 - full image of piece, and up to 3 additional detail shots.) This means you can upload a total of 12 images to represent your 3 submitted works. You will receive a 15% discount code for the purchase of O-gami paper upon completion of your registration. One individual can enter as many pieces (works) as they choose in increments of 3. For example - 4 works would be 2 registrations, as would 6. 8 works would be 3 registrations, as would 7. Enter as many pieces as you like. Reminder: registration fees are not refundable. The judging will be done online, so make sure your photos are clear and representative of your work. As stated above you must submit a full image of the work, and can have up to 3 additional photos of details of the work. As the judges are working blind, make sure you do not have your name visible in the images. Timeline March 27- Registration is open allowing time to prepare pieces and photographs. June 18th - Registration for show closes. Images must be uploaded before June 18th in order to be considered for the competition. Judges screen the entries. Judges are 1. Selecting pieces to include in the exhibit and 2. choosing winners for the prizes from entries made from O-gami. Judges have the next month to consider the entries and choose the winners. Sept 10th - Those who are selected to participate in the exhibit will be notified by email. October 8th - Selected pieces must be delivered to the Paper Circle if they want to be included in the exhibit October 30th - Final Friday exhibit opens and winners are announced - to winners but not published until Nov. 25th (a month later - next Final Friday) in order avoid influencing the People's Choice Award. People can vote online or in person for their favorite piece in the exhibit. John Scully Ohio Paper Folders jscu...@ohiopaperfolders.com
[Origami] CenterFold 2015 registration update
We did not send out reminders that the dates were approaching for registration fees to increase for the 2015 Ohio origami convention, so we have decided to extend the discount until the 20th of April. So - come join us July 31st - Aug 2nd and have a great time with Robert Lang, Meenakshi Mukerji, Eric Gjerde Jon Tucker and Jared Needle (If he makes it back to Ohio...) We are at the hotel on the 30th, but that is a casual folding day - no scheduled classes. If you have never been to CenterFold, we run a laid back, friendly convention where everyone has a good time. We are in a small convention hotel, so everything is on one floor. More info, photos of past conventions and registration is online at www.ohiopaperfolders.com Call or email if you have any questions! John Scully Ohio Paper Folders jscu...@ohiopaperfolders.com 740-344-4213
Re: [Origami] Starting a folding group/club (new member)
Megan asked for suggestions on starting a local folding group. We have had great results from using meetup.com to help people find us. It is not free, but very inexpensive. As soon as you have selected a location and schedule, sign up on meetup and post your upcoming meetings. Be sure to stress that beginners are welcome, all ages are welcome etc. For reference, here is our meetup page: http://www.meetup.com/Ohio-Paper-Folders/ We started meeting in a local library, but outgrew it and moved to a local arts center that has larger rooms. Meetings range from twelve to more than forty people. John Scully Ohio Paper Folders CenterFold Origami Convention jscu...@ohiopaperfolders.com 740-334-4213
Re: [Origami] DC Origami - John Montroll
Jody asked about the amazon pre-order for DC Origami by John Montrol Jody - I just followed the link you listed and see a price of $13.95 - not the $98.35 you mentioned. John Scully jscu...@ohiopaperfolders.com
Re: [Origami] Document Camera (FWD)
Laura Rozenberg asked about document cameras vs webcams We have been researching the same thing, and have been looking at the elmo document cameras, such as the tt-12i I really need to get my hands on one first to make a decision, but it seems that the key differences are about the camera being purpose designed to show documents and "hands doing something", plus being easy to connect to anything. But...they are really expensive compared to webcams...so I am trying to figure out the real difference. Anyone else? Or any specific suggestions on what YOU are using? I am more interested in camera - to - projector than streaming to the web, but both would be nice. John Scully Ohio paper folders jscu...@ohiopaperfolders.com
[Origami] CenterFold 2014 flikr page
I recently realized that we had not posted photos of the August 2014 CenterFold origami convention here in Columbus. So - I just posted 675 photos to group https://www.flickr.com/groups/centerfold2014/pool/ it is an open group, so anyone with any interesting photos - please add them. John Scully Ohio Paper Folders jscu...@ohiopaperfolders.com 740-334-4213
[Origami] CenterFold 2015 - Ohio Origami Convention
We now have confirmations from all our special guests for CenterFold 2014, so a quick update to all - (Give someone a CenterFold for Christmas). The dates will be Friday July 31th-Sunday Aug 2nd 2015 (But we will have some activities on Thursday the 30th for anyone who is there). Special guests are Robert Lang, Meenakshi Mukerji and Eric Gjerde. That should give us a great range - modulars, simple and complex animals and insects and tesselations. As usual, we will have a total of between 60 and 70 classes, plus a few special workshops. And as usual, we are doing early bird discounts. Jan 15-Mar 31st $150.00, then up to $175.00 until May 31st, then up to $190.00 until the convention. We are giving a special discount to people who register between now and Jan 15th - $125.00 for the full convention with classes. More info is online at http://www.ohiopaperfolders.com registration is online there - just click the login/register link. Please email me or call with any questions John Scully jscu...@ohiopaperfolders.com Ohio Paper Folders CenterFold Origami Convention www.ohiopaperfolders.com 740-334-4213
Re: [Origami] Grammar and traditional origami?
Gerardo asked about naming convention for model names. In general, the rule is that if it is a descriptive name (common box) it is not in that form, but if it is a specific name for a specific design, then it follows the rule you mentioned. Similar to "pickup truck" vs "Ford F150". Of course, I would hope that no one here would care about this except when actually publishing the name, writing a gallery card or otherwise giving attribution. That is when it really is expected. John Scully Ohio Paper Folders 740-334-4213 jscu...@ohiopaperfolders.com
Re: [Origami] A good origami cause!
Ann let us know about the fund raiser for why origami matters. Looks like we got in as the first to donate - not they just need 99 other people to kick in $25 (or 500 to kick in $5 for that matter). Have a good time in Japan guys. John Scully and Monica Salisbury Ohio Paper Folders
[Origami] 12 days to CenterFold - still some space left
Although the discounted room block in the hotel is gone, there is still space in the hotel, and we do still have room for more attendees at CenterFold! So come join us in Ohio – fold with Tomoko Fuse, David and Assia Brill and Carmen Sprung. Plus Thursday workshops on paper making, PMC and paper punch flowers, and intro and advanced paper marbling workshops through the weekend. July 31st through August 3rd. www.ohiopaperfolders.com John Scully Ohio Paper Folders 740-334-4213
[Origami] Ohio paper Folders NBC interview from today
We had an opportunity today for a five minute interview on Daytime Columbus on NBC today. We grabbed up some containers of origami to display, emailed them some photos to use for cut ins and headed over there. So some of the origami you see is from our collection, some we just borrowed in NY for two upcoming gallery shows. The video is on our web site at http://www.ohiopaperfolders.com/?page=pages/dtc_video.html and on our facebook page (ohiopaper.folders) For once, we remembered to mention everything important – our monthly meetings, the convention, the guests etc. John Scully Ohio Paper Folders jscu...@ohiopaperfolders.com
[Origami] CenterFold - Tomoko Fuse - David Brill - Assia Brill - Carmen Sprung
While in New York at the National convention I ran into a lot of people who somehow had missed the fact that there is an Ohio Convention, much less that the guests this year are Tomoko/David/Assia/Carmen. So...I am asking everyone to PLEASE pass the word along to any other folders who may not have heard about us. Forward this message on to people who do not get this list. Send it to your facebook friends etc. Or call and let people know - how many chances do you get to socialize with and fold with people like this? There is still space in the hotel (plus several other hotels within walking distance). There is still space for attendees. Dates are July 31st to Aug 3rd 2014 (but the 31st is a casual day - no scheduled classes). Holiday Inn hotel and Convention center, Worthington Ohio. Registration for the convention is $190.00 for the full weekend, which includes tote bag/t-shirt/paper supply/folding board. Everything is in one location. Hotel rooms are $84.00 per night for single or multi occupancy. There are still rooms with double queens, kings and kings with pullout queens! All rooms have refrigerators, and there are lots of restaurants in walking distance. There is a shuttle from the airport. There is a link form the convention page of our web site that will take you directly to our room block. NOTE! NOTE! NOTE! If the site says there are no rooms available just email or call me. Due to dumb-ass rules from holiday inn corporate they are only allowed to have so many rooms available in our block. When it fills up they add more...when I call and tell them it is full. But as of today there are still 50+ rooms available in the hotel. Check our web site at www.ohiopaperfolders.com or call us at 740-334-4213 John Scully jscu...@ohiopaperfolders.com 740-334-4213
Re: [Origami] The Perfect Square
We did some folding from Savage photo-backdrop paper (107" wide). We used a variety of techniques and found that the best way was to work on a surface with some visible guides. An asphalt tile floor works well if you check the squareness of the tiles. We also had success by carefully measuring out a square on the floor and marking it with tape. Two full edges and the last corner just a corner marking. That lets you place one edge of the paper along one long tape edge, mark the paper then cut. Just remember that the key to making the tape marks square is all four sides exact same length, and the two diagonals the same length. John Scully jscu...@ohiopaperfolders.com
Re: [Origami] looking for specific paper colors (forwarded for Yahoo user)
Aimee asked about single color kami Ohio Paper Folders has single color packs in about 30 colors (plus another 600 items) available at shop.ohiopaperfolders.com Our paper sales help cover the expenses of our community outreach programs, such as teaching origami in libraries, schools and Children's Hospital. Free shipping on orders totaling $50.00 or more. John Scully jscu...@ohiopaperfolders.com
[Origami] More CenterFold convention notes
Several people have pointed out that I forgot to mention a couple of items: We will have an ATC swap - everyone is welcome to join in. Info is at http://www.ohiopaperfolders.com/index.php?page=pages/more_convention_info.ht ml We will have autograph sessions, so if you have a few special books from our guests bring them along (not your entire Fuse library please!). We will NOT have many books for sale - we just cannot finance the inventory - so buy your Curlicue copies etc. on Amazon before you come. We will likely have some...but better safe than sorry. We will have a public origami exhibit. Everyone is welcome to put pieces on display. We are also collecting origami pieces for our permanent collection. We now have two collections that we lend out to public libraries, plus what we put on display at festivals etc. We could really use more pieces as our collection is stretched pretty thin - any type/style/size is welcome. We want as broad a range of work as possible. Even if you are not coming to CenterFold, please mail us your excess work. We will also again be collecting origami for holiday ornaments for children's hospitals, so any small pieces are welcome. Last year we donated over 500 pieces. Again - those can be simple pieces - traditional, modular - anything that would make a good ornament. When you register for the hotel use the direct link on the convention web page - the IDIOTS at the national call center for Holiday Inn keep telling people there are no rooms available in our block. There are rooms available, and the link in the middle of the convention page at www.ohiopaperfolders.com will take you straight to them. Anyone looking for a roommate please email me directly. And as soon as I send this, someone will remind me of something else I forgot. John Scully jscu...@ohiopaperfolders.com 740-334-4213
Re: [Origami] Ohio Origami convention update - prices go up again on June 1
Jennifer said: " I will be attending the convention this year. This will be my first origami convention. I am super excited, but unsure what to bring. I am looking for suggestions. Should I bring" Some of the other responses covered things well: bring some paper, especially any special paper you like. There is paper for sale at CenterFold and of course a HUGE selection of paper at OUSA. We provide a folding board (A 9x15 grade school dry erase board) useful for folding on a rough surface or your lap, a tote bag, t-shirt and paper packet. We will have an ATC (Artists Trading Card) exchange, so if you are into that bring cards along. We are REALLY informal in how we do that exchange. Along the lines of - "go meet over there and exchange your stuff". As to books, at CenterFold we organize an actual autograph session to make it more efficient, but you can always politely ask someone - authors in general like to sign their books. We set a limit of six books per person, since when you are talking about someone like Tomoko Fuse...you could show up with 75+ books. We do not sell a lot of books at CenterFold though, so if there is a book you want available on Amazon, buy it ahead of the convention. In terms of any minor items your forget - there is a small shopping mall/grocery store/pharmacy right across the street, so you are covered. We also have a lot of stuff like scissors, tape etc at the admin tables so people can borrow them. John Scully 740-334-4213 jscu...@ohiopaperfolders.com
[Origami] Ohio Origami convention update - prices go up again on June 1
Just a quick reminder that full convention registrations are $175 until June 1, then they go up to $190. Also, the hotel is starting to fill up, but there are still rooms available in our block. Come take classes from Tomoko Fuse, Carmen Sprung, David and Assia Brill July 31st thru Aug 3rd. Thursday the 31st is a very light schedule, just casual folding for people who come in by then. Scheduled classes are Fri/Sat/Sun as usual. But the ball room will be open Thursday. We have the great paper marbling teacher Steve Pittlekow coming back this year. Introductory marbling class is $45 and advanced marbling is $55. In addition, we will have a PMC workshop (Precious Metal Clay) and paper making workshop. Registrations are going along well, and we are at over 100 people registered so far, including people from Germany, Mexico, Pakistan, Holland, Canada and several other countries. Don't wait until the last minute, because we may hit capacity this year and have to shut down registrations. We only have room for 200 to 225 people. And for those of you who were here our first or second year, but have not been back - keep in mind we are in a new, very nice hotel. Everything on one floor, refrigerators in every room, and the hotel is surrounded by restaurants and shops. Please visit us at www.ohiopaperfolders.com for more information and to register online Contact us if you need assistance John Scully jscu...@ohiopaperfolders.com 740-334-4213
[Origami] Car pool from Ohio and/or room mate for OUSA convention
I am going to be driving form central Ohio to the NY convention, in a mini-van. I have room for up to three people. Anyone want to ride share? John Scully jscu...@ohiopaperfolders.com
[Origami] New Origami Papers from Aitoh
Ohio Paper Folders has just acquired 13 brand new papers from Aitoh. These include some very interesting new Bokashi, Iroha and Sai Sai Chiyogami papers They can be seen at http://shop.ohiopaperfolders.com/new-items/ These papers are not available yet from most other resellers. Please take a look – our paper store helps fund our community activities. John Scully Ohio paper Folders jscu...@ohiopaperfolders.com
Re: [Origami] Real problems we could solve with folded paper?
Here is a real one-a very real, important use of origami folding. http://nyti.ms/QAUkfe Manu Prakash wants to grow a generation of young scientists by distributing powerful yet inexpensive laboratory instruments around the globe. Origami microscopes! >From the NYT article: Last month he received widespread attention for his Foldscope, a 3D-printed microscope assembled from origami-folded paper. The microscope will make it possible for schoolchildren, laboratory technicians and even the world's best scientists to have the imaging power of a desktop instrument worth several thousand dollars at the cost of less than a dollar. He said he hopes to put paper microscopes in the hands of every child in the developing world, providing them with the ability to see for themselves such things as whether their drinking water is clean. ... It is made from die-cut paper, can be assembled in several minutes and can have a resolution that approaches 700 nanometers. That makes it a potential medical instrument for imaging and diagnosing deadly bacterial diseases, including tuberculosis, malaria, African sleeping sickness, leishmaniasis and giardiasis.
Re: [Origami] ADMIN - now, it's apparently AOL's turn to mess with email
Looks like it is even more widespread than Yahoo and AOL. Here is a message from a different mailing list (the Birding lists digest). "It's come to my attention that around 285 of our subscribers are bouncing all messages from YAHOO subscribers. A little research has turned up the reason: YAHOO has implemented a new email policy called "DMARC" that, in short, is 100% incompatible with mailing lists. Yahoo is aware of this incompatibility, but apparently does not feel that it is their problem. Instead they leave it up to mailing list software developers to figure out a way to comply with the new policy, but apparently there is no clear way to do what a list server needs to do that would comply. Which is probably why the best suggestion the makers of LISTSERV software can come up with is to simply block all YAHOO addresses from posting! We have quite a few subscribers from YAHOO (127 to be exact), so I don't intend to do it if I can help it. But YAHOO users need to know that if they want their posts to reach everyone, they'll have to subscribe and send their mail from a non-YAHOO address. I know that's a hassle, but until either YAHOO backs down or the software company comes up with a fix, there is no other option. (In a pinch I guess you could send your email to a friend who's not on YAHOO and have them post for you, but that's obviously not a long term answer). In addition, all subscribers should be aware that they may not be receiving every post. YAHOO users are of course not getting the YAHOO posts, but neither are users at AOL, HOTMAIL, SBCGLOBAL, and several others. Even personal domains may be affected if they are hosted by one of these services. "
Re: [Origami] ADMIN - now, it's apparently AOL's turn to mess with email
Ann said: I am off to figure out some way around this. It is not going to be pretty, and is most likely going to necessitate changes in everyone's behavior and how you interact with the list. Sorry! Ann, we all feel for you. What a mess. This must be effecting hundreds of other mailing lists as well. Looks like Yahoo and AOL are trying to commit suicide. Everyone could just get a gmail account. Free and they seem to not have these problems. John Scully
Re: [Origami] Real problems we could solve with folded paper?
Gerardo asked: " Can you all also help me think of daily problems you still have and that you believe a product made out of folded sheets -of some sort- could fix? That way I can choose one and try to create a product for the end of the course." 1) origami boxes (I use paper boxes for all kinds of things - they last a LONG time if you use the right paper). 2) Envelopes and letter folds. Remember, before modern envelopes you wrote on a large sheet and folded it into its own envelope. 3) Toys - Got a cranky kid? Fold a snapper puppet and let him run around and bite everyone. John Scully
Re: [Origami] Modular versus Arrangement
Dave Mitchell said " To me a modular design is one that is self-integrating. If you glue it together then this essential element of what modular means (in origami) is lost. Technically I would then consider it a glued multi-piece arrangement rather than a modular assembly." It is a fine line, but if you have to glue the model for it to hold together, just because it does not have a locking mechanism, that does not change it from being origami to me. Good example of course is the electra - wonderful model, and everyone would call it modular origami...but you have to glue it or it just falls apart. I am working on one right now out of 2 mil copper foil, which I plan to crimp (or maybe solder...not sure yet). You should come to CenterFold origami convention this year and we can argue about it. I love a good argument about semantics. John Scully www.ohiopaperfolders.com
Re: [Origami] Origami Digest, Vol 96, Issue 15
Dianne wrote: "One square no cuts no glue seems to be the traditional definition of Origami someone decided upon at some point in time. I have not read no tools...but always made the assumption no tools were to be used." As far as I know, those "rules" were applied some time in the mid-twentieth century. Remember, in Japan Origami, Kirigami and kusadama are all aspects of the same art form. And the further you go back to the origins of origami, the more the lines blurred. I had heard many people extend those rules above to include the words "one square piece of paper". So...modulars are not origami? If I start from a rectangle it is not origami? If I use a bone folder, that is a tool. In my head, origami involves creating the end result by folding one or more pieces of paper. Cutting paper to shape to start does not change that - so you can do origami from rectangles, triangles etc. If there are INTERNAL cuts, then it is Kirigami by definition. If you are sewing the pieces together it is Kusadama. But is you have to use glue to hold something together, that is still origami, just like wet folding using a mixture of Methylcellulose and white glue to change a flat folded model into a beautiful paper sculpture does not make it some other art form. An amusing note - I actually had an artist who was actively working with that mixture on a model tell me that if you have to glue a modular model together it is not origami. I laughed out loud and pointed out that he was covering his model with glue to make it hold a shape. He said "That is different! This is just shaping!". The great thing is that the origami community as a whole has been inclusive instead of exclusive. Instead of saying "That is not origami", they said "That is a new type of origami"...at least within reason. Bottom line is - if 25 years ago people had bowed to a set of arbitrary rules we would not have all these wonderful new species of origami. That is the way to think of it - origami is the family, modular/tessellations/traditionals, etc are genus and within those are different species (i.e. different styles of tessellations). Just like in biology, when a new thing comes along, you see if it fits a known species, and if it does not you pick a family or genus and simply declare "We have discovered a new species! The red-footed, duck billed Curlicue". John Scully
[Origami] Update on CenterFold Origami Convention
Couple of quick reminders on CenterFold: Early bird registration ends March 31st. $150 through the end of the month, then it goes up to $175. We will have the same professional marbling teacher from 2010 - Steve Pittlekow will be teaching both beginner and advanced marbling classes. Registrations are going very quickly, so if you want to come fold with Tomoko, David, Assia and carmen don't delay! For those of you who were only here the first year, keep in mind we are no longer in that same hotel (the one in the de-militarized zone). We are in a very nice, small convention hotel surrounded by shops and restaurants in walking distance. Info and online registration is available at www.ohiopaperfolders.com, or email me at jscu...@ohiopaperfolders.com with any questions. John Scully
Re: [Origami] Older models/first time giveaways?
Rob sayeth: "I thought it might be interesting to do an exchange, or just send the finished models/step folds/experiments out to someone who could use them. Maybe you're looking for an idea for something, or maybe you just couldn't figure out the lock for a model or good landmarks." Our origami group here in Ohio has started loaning out part of our collection to libraries and similar places around the state, so they can put them on display for a month. This has worked wonders to stimulate interest in origami (we also send along a suggested book list for the libraries to purchase). This started out with one "set" we were loaning out, but has grown to two and we would like to have four different sets (just in Ohio there are 275 public libraries, plus god knows how many schools). They have been pretty good about protecting the pieces, although normal wear and tear does add up. We also have a large display we take to festivals etc when we run origami tents. So - If you have pieces you would like to donate to this cause, please contact me. We could use duplicates, since we do have multiple display sets. Our general rule is nothing really valuable, and we like a full range of complexity, styles and materials. So we present a a good cross section of the art. And we do ask for some notes on model/designer so we can provide info cards with the displays. If anyone else has "excess" pieces they would like to donate, we are happy to pay shipping. John Scully Ohio Paper Folders 740-334-4213
Re: [Origami] O-Gami paper by papercircle gone?
Seth said: "I recently checked the papercircle o-gami paper section, and found the links were dead (404 not found error). Does anyone know if they've stopped producing the paper? temporarily? permanently?" No - their web site got hacked, and their so-called web-designer had vaporized, so they just got the site back up and are working on getting everything working. You can reach Barbara Campagnola of the Paper Circle at papercirclea...@gmail.com if you need to order paper. John Scully
Re: [Origami] How to take Pictures of Origami?
Sure, I will send you a few samples, but I did not really mean I use one light source. I may have a fixed light (from the light box I used to use, sunlight etc, then use the LED light to get the look I want. John
Re: [Origami] How to take Pictures of Origami?
Tavin asked "how to take pictures of origami" In terms of type of paper, it totally depends on the model. For modulars, patterns can be great. But for complex pieces, patterns can be distracting. The key is the lighting and lens used - especially if you are working with small models. Anyone can shoot a large piece, but it is a challenge to shoot something 1" to a few inches across. I frequently use a macro lens and either a ring flash (ring shaped flash on the end of the lens), or a hand held LED light. I use an "LED120 plus" from pro-master. It is a 120 LED continuous light source. You can mount it on a camera, or hold it in your hand and move it around to get the shadows the way you want for detail. Since it is not a point source, but instead a large flat source it creates soft shadows. With the camera on a tripod I can shift the model and shift the light and shoot 20-30 photos quickly, then pick from them later. The ring flash is not only a LOT more expensive, but has a problem with blowing out the detail. John Scully Ohio Paper Folders
[Origami] CenterFold 2014 - Tomoko Fuse/Carmen Sprung/David Brill/Assia Brill
Hello all - Greetings from Columbus, Ohio - home of CenterFold Origami Convention. As some of you may have heard, the guests of honor this year are: Tomoko Fuse, from Japan David and Assia Brill from the U.K. Carmen Sprung from Germany It should be a fantastic convention due to the varied styles of the guests. Assia just published her first book (Curlicue: Kinetic Origami), David has Brilliant origami, Carmen has "21 Sterne" (21 Stars), and of course Tomoko Fuse has thousands of origami books in print (Well, maybe not thousands, but a lot). We did have to move the convention up a few weeks to avoid conflict with 6OSME and Tanteidan, so the dates are Thursday July 31st through Sunday August 3rd, 2014. We are once again at the Holiday in Worthington Ohio - a very nice, small hotel/convention center. Just large enough for us, and surrounded by restaurants and stores. There is a shuttle from the airport ($15). All the details are at www.ohiopaperfolders.com - but here are a few important notes: 1) Full convention registration is discounted to $150 until March 31st, then goes up to $175 until May 31st, when it goes up to $190. 2) Please use the link on our convention page to register for the hotel - the national reservation desk for Holiday Inn seems to be manned by idiots, who last year kept telling people our room block was full. The direct link on our page will take you straight into reservations for our block. If you DO call the toll free number to book your room, do not let them tell you the room block is full. 3) This year, we are likely going to hit our max capacity (around 225 people), so register early, and reserve your room early. Registration went online a few days ago, and people are registering now. 4) We will be doing a silent auction, Artist Trading Card swap etc. And lastly - Ohio Paper Folders now sells origami paper to help fund our community activities. Our store is online at shop.ohiopaperfolders.com with over 400 origami and Japanese art papers (up to 32" art paper!). If you run an origami group, contact John Scully at jscu...@ohiopaperfolders.com for a wholesale login at 25% discount. We also are allowing other groups to use "promo codes" and offer paper to their members, and we will pay 20% as a donation to the group. Contact me for more info So far, this has gone very well. We hope to raise enough money to ship origami kits to many children's hospitals, instead of the two we did this year (about 400 kits).
Re: [Origami] The best paper for origami
Lyle Torres asked: "I'd like to ask you all what would be your answer to a person who is new to origami and asks what's the best paper for origami" Best paper for origami, tough question. best paper for a beginner is easier. We teach literally thousands of beginners, very frequently their first few models ever. Our go-to paper is colored printer paper, specifically Astro-brights from Wasau paper. The reason we like this specific paper is that it is available in 17 colors, the color goes all the way through the paper (no white lines at the creases), and it is quite strong. It is just our opinion, but we think novices have an easier time with heavier paper. We buy it at Officemax, frequently 20-25 reams at a time. Then we say the magic words, which convert the 8 1/2x11 into 8 1/2 square plus strips good for other things. The secret magic words are "Please cut this on your big-ass paper cutter". John Scully Ohio Paper Folders
[Origami] Wrap up on CeterFold 2013
Just a quick note of thanks from myself and John. CenterFold 2013 was a success – each year things have gone smoother, and everyone had a great time. We had 115 attendees, about the same as last year, which we count as an improvement since this is a PCOC year and Beth is GOH at PCOC. 70 classes were taught, plus a few special workshops. The guests of honor were fantastic – Beth Johnson and Brian Chan both taught many classes and spent most of the remaining time in the gathering room, folding and socializing with everyone. We had a lot of beginner/low intermediate folders this year, and they were thrilled to take classes from and work casually with Brian and Beth. That means a lot to a young folder. And of course many convention attendees jumped in and assisted – from helping at admin to the exhibit setup to teaching beginner workshops – I know I will leave people out if I try to list everyone, but special thanks to Kay Eng, Patsy Wang-Iverson and many more. The cookout at the Tucker’s who have generously allowed us to invade their home and provide us with a wonderful repast sets an atmosphere of community and friendship. It relaxes people and puts the guests inside the event with the attendees instead of the guests being “off limits”. I heard Kathy Knapp, who some of you know from New York’s annual convention, others of you may know her name from the origami forums, she is a frequent poster, or maybe you know her from CenterFold – say to Brian Chan (who has attended the New York convention many many times) “you don’t know me but I’ve seen you at New York many times and it’s a pleasure to meet you”. Many of the convention attendees jumped in to assist with registration, teaching beginners workshops etc. We have a lot to be grateful for not the least of which are the members of our group who volunteer their time and work so incredibly hard to make these events. We want to thank Tim, Karen, and Jon Tucker for the use of their home, for the wonderful food they provided and for manning the registration table, the exhibit, teaching, hauling, loading and moving equipment and supplies and for the public relations in dealing with attendees. Cecilia Adams and her granddaughter Fiona worked every day as well – Fiona became quite proficient as a cashier and got into the giant folding. Cecilia fielded countless questions and taught at the beginner’s workshops as well as covering the registration table for hours on end. She and Tim both skipped taking any classes so they could cover the registration table. Jeff Klein, Mitch Gross, Sheree Green, Michael Dugger, Doyline Williams, Yasue Sakaoka – taught and ran errands, fielded questions, worked the registration table, helped with giant folding. The volunteers arrived early and left late. Mike and Merida Weinstein even managed to drop by and help with stuffing totes on Thursday despite their family having come in from Guatemala. This is the strength, the backbone of our group. For anyone who has not seen them, we have tons of pictures up on facebook https://www.facebook.com/ohiopaper.folders and flikr http://www.flickr.com/photos/ohiopaperfolders/sets Hope to see you all next year. Monica Salisbury and John Scully
[Origami] Video of giant origami at CenterFold
Patsy Wang-Iverson, Kathleen Sheridan, Mariette Kok and others folded a Montroll woven star from 9 foot paper. The video is online at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puRw46Vr2FE I already told Kathleen she needs to start a new class in “Yoga-Gami”. Watch and see why. Also – we have lots of pics on our facebook page at https://www.facebook.com/ohiopaper.folders and on flikr at http://www.flickr.com/groups/2285512@N21/pool John Scully Ohio Paper Folders
[Origami] Request for origami for exhibits
As many of you know, we at Ohio Paper Folders / CenterFold convention do several exhibits each year, mainly using work by our members. Well, we can not keep putting the same pieces in exhibits each year, and we have some big gaps in terms of the various styles of origami. Plus...this year we have five requests for exhibits instead of the usual one or two. And it is only June! As of right now, we have an art gallery, a museum and three public libraries asking for work to display. We just do not have enough to go around. So - we are requesting the donation of origami work to be part of our permanent collection, for use in public exhibits. General guidelines: We are NOT looking for valuable works. If you would want to insure it for shipping, don't send it! We do our best to transport and display work without damage...but when you put pieces out, pack them up, put them out a few times, things happen. We are looking for a broad range of work - some of everything really. Traditional models, simple elegant work, complex stuff, tessellations, modulars, boxes, geometric, bugs, animals - anything goes. And we are certainly not just looking for perfect, professional pieces - the vast majority of the work we display now is done by our members. One or two of whom do great work...and the rest of us are pretty average. It is the mix of all that that really catches peoples attention. Anything you can send will go to good use, and can be shipped to: Ohio Paper Folders 4066 Philipps Rd Granville, Oh 43023 John and Monica Ohio Paper folders 740-334-4213
Re: [Origami] The Twisted Tale of Origami v. Sarah Morris
Tom said "If I had crease patterns and she had asked to use them I would have said yes and probably asked for no more compensation then being listed as the source of the original pattern. Tom " That was one of the reasons for the lawsuit, and a major part of the settlement. Ms Morris refused to give attribution to the artists. She simply listed them as original work. The settlement requires that she give proper attribution to the designers of the crease patterns, including the name of the original work. John Scully
[Origami] Origami sighting - call the midwife
Sunday 5/19 episode of Call the Midwife on BBC America had Doctor Turner teaching a traditional frog to a scout troop. The show is set in the 1950's London. John Scully
[Origami] Update on CenterFold 2013
Everything is proceeding along well for CenterFold 2013 (August 15th-19th) We again will have the class descripts and model menu online, and this year will have the full schedule available online a few days before the convention. We are looking forward to a fun weekend with Beth Johnson and Brian Chan and everyone else who can make it to Columbus this year. The convention is in the same great little hotel as last year, and please be sure to bring pieces for the exhibit. This year we will have three premium T-Shirts available - the designs just went online. They can be found on www.ohiopaperfolders.com in the convention menu. And this year we are doing something very different - we found a great print-on-demand company who does direct to garment printing. So you choose the design, select the T-Shirt style (mens/ladies/Juniors), pick from several dozen colors and specify the size. You can also choose to have it drop shipped to you now or pick up at convention. There is a tool there to let you see the different designs on each background color so you can see how each one will look. Give us a call or email if you have any questions - and looking forward to seeing you all in August. And of course we will see a lot of you in New York in June. Happy folding! John Scully Ohiopaperfolders 740-334-4213
[Origami] CenterFold - Ohio origami convention update
Just a quick reminder that the early bird discounted rate of $150 is only until April 1st, then rates go up by $25.00, so get your registration in now. You can see all the details and register online, or print a mail in registration form at http://www.ohiopaperfolders.com/#!/page_convention We are at the same hotel as last year, the Holiday Inn hotel and convention center in Worthington Ohio. Our room blank is at $82.00 per night. Please email me or call 740-334-4213 if you have any questions. Also – big news for Ohio Paper Folders – we now have a power philanthropy profile online at http://tcfapp.org/PortraitView/ViewPortrait/8804 This is a service provided by the Columbus Foundation, the ninth largest community foundation in the United States. They both provide grants to non-profit organizations and assist them in raising funds through this program of vetted organization profiles. The process was intense, and included detailed review of our financials and past and planned activities, but now we can apply for grants or support from other organizations and say “We have been vetted by the Columbus Foundation – here is the link”. What a great concept. John Scully Ohio Paper Folders 740-334-4213
Re: [Origami] A strip of paper
Try a hand held rotary cutter with a long steel straightedge. Carl makes a handle for the standard blades from their flat bed cutters. Amazon has them for about $11.00 Search for “carl handheld rotary cutter” They work great with a long steel edge and a cutting mat. A second person to hold the steel down helps. Even if you set up a rig as S Watson described, the rotary cutter is faster and cleaner than a knife, as it does not pull the paper. John Scully ohio paper folders www.ohiopaperfolders.com
Re: [Origami] Legally protecting useful models?
First, I would strongly suggest searching the archives of this list for the word copyright. Preferably when you have a whole day to kill. This topic has been beaten to death on this list, re-animated, beaten again. and again. This is a very complex issue with huge grey areas. But a few things to consider: 1) You pretty much have to be able to answer the "prior art" question in the area you are considering - i.e. "has anyone else EVER created that same model". Remember - copyright is about the design/plan/diagram/instructions. Not about the end result. You copyright a book. You patent a printing press. 2) Even with prior art - if someone can make two or three minor variations but still have the same functionality, they can very likely defeat your copyright/patent whatever. 3) If you will not be harmed financially by their using your design it becomes much more difficult to go after violators in court. Not impossible...but the bar is a lot higher. Example: I am an author or origami books. You take my design and use it commercially. I can very possibly argue that your action reduced sales of my "How to make super cool useful origami things" book. but...If I am a designer who publishes my designs on the internet for free, where is the harm (in a legal sense)? Between #2 and #3...not sure there is much you can do. Remember, even in technology such as programming, if I copy and paste your code I have violated copyright or even patents. But if I rewrite your code line by line, so it is visually different but functionally the same, you are in a word, hosed. There have been suits for tens of millions of Dollars over that, and they seem to be decided by a coin flip. But if you publish your code for free, people are going to take it and use it and nothing you can do will stop them. You may actually have a tougher time protecting something "useful" with no financial damage than something "artistic" with no financial damage. To answer your last question below asking if anyone has every tried to protect their work, again see the archives. Major flame wars over this topic. As usual, the people at the two extremes are all wrong (in my humble opinion). Those two extremes are of course "Once you publish it I have a right to do anything I want with it and you can't stop me" and "If I designed it you can not do ANYTHING with it no matter how small without my written permission". Pretty broad range between those two, and 95% of people are somewhere in the middle. Seems like designers need more protection then they are getting now, but too much and it stifles creativity etc. John Scully Neoorigami said: So to be clear, no other creator of a useful origami model has ever asked before if their model is protected be copyright law, nor has he or she tried to register the model as his or her creation in a copyright office?
Re: [Origami] Origami Source payment method
Having been involved with online payment processing since...well, since there was online payment processing, I think I can address that: Credit card security compliance when doing online payment processing is frequently handled poorly, resulting in all those news reports about 400 trillion peoples credit card info being stolen from the local hot dog vendor etc. That is the basis for paypal’s existence: they really are secure, they will refund the buyers money if the transaction goes bad. Many people refuse to pay with anything but paypal. That is their choice, but it does encourage vendors to add paypal. I myself went out and got one of thosereloadable pre-paid mastercards, which I use for all small online purchases. If someone steals that account info they have access to about $50. But, Robert is correct that paypal’s fees are somewhat higher than regular credit card processing – although with any volume it does come down to a pretty small delta. Also, there is a fixe dmonthly cost to have a vendors paypal account – miniscule once volume is up, but significant in these early months. I would point out that you actually have to look at a full month’s credit card processing statement to verify what you are really paying for credit card fees. Most vendors make these choices based on the “discount rate” they were told they are paying – likely around 2.3 to 2.5% for the source. But, what they do not mention clearly is that when the buyer uses a “rewards card” that gives him cash back, those funds actually come from the seller, in the form of much higher discount rate – as much as 5%. So – the source may already have done this, but it might be worth while comparing actual cost (by dividing total fees by total sales) to the paypal fees. You may be surprised. In my case, I thought I was paying 2.3% but actual average fee was 3.4%. On $200K in sales per month, that adds up! When I added paypal as an additional payment type, it was actually at a slightly lower cost than my regular CC processing, which I would not have predicted. Another possible suggestion for the future might be to add the ability to “add funds to my account”. i.e. put in $25, then make purchases against that balance. Means some additional programming, but it also reduces total fees, which helps when you are doing “micro payment” processing. John Scully Robert said: This is interesting. --Here we have a purchaser who wants to buy some files. --The files are available for sale. --The purchaser is satisfied with the price. --The purchaser has a credit card that is accepted by the online store. --The purchaser has been willing to provide his card information to at least online vendor. BUT --He feels that because he has given his card information to a completely different vendor that has nothing to do with the vendor he is shopping at, that should somehow suffice for this vendor. Where does this logical progression come from?
[Origami] A certain critical mass is needed
For anything like this online diagram store, these first few weeks of activity are difficult, especially when it is a soft launch like this one, where at launch time there were only a few diagrams available. In order to get it moving there needs to be a fair inventory – perhaps 200 diagrams, perhaps more due to difficulty levels etc. Enough that most visitors will see something they want. Right now it is more of a shake down cruise. Make sure everything is working, payments get processed and accumulated for sellers etc. Since I am not a designer I have nothing to contribute, but we need a lot of designers to put a few models each in the system. Here is a thought – does OrigamiUSA own the rights to a lot of designs? If so, why not put them in the store? especially if there are a lot that have never been in print. John Scully
[Origami] Kraft Paper suitable for origami
Fadeless brand color paper is available in 48" widths in 12 colors. We purchase it at a school supply store. 50 foot by 4 foot width roll is about $12 USD. That is less than half the price I see it anywhere else. Their web site is www.starbeaconproducts.net but you might want to search for a local discount school supply store. John Scully
Re: [Origami] on the quest for new materials - Metal
Monica Salisbury has had great success folding copper roof flashing. It is available on a roll in 12" to 20" width in hardware stores. You need to find 3 oz copper! Standard roof flashing is as much as 16 oz (per square foot) and not really foldable. 3 oz is just under 5 mils thick. You can find it as thin as 1 mil, but that is really copper foil and will tear by hand and wrinkle at a touch. 3 oz is thin enough to cut on a rotary paper cutter, but strong enough to make a substantial, usable item. Here is a web site where you can purchase high quality clean or patina copper in 18" to 36" width http://basiccopper.com . they are a bit pricy, but have many different kinds of copper with patina. To give you an idea, 24"X 48" 5 mil with patina is $130 USD Here is the first copper box Monica made - it is a Tomoko Fuse box http://www.flickr.com/photos/ohiopaperfolders/5025956591/in/set-72157625037643654 And Monica showing Tomoko how to cut and fold the copper http://www.flickr.com/photos/ohiopaperfolders/4924982667/in/set-72157624801852140 Give us a shout if anyone wants to discuss the little issues with working with copper. John Scully OhioPaperFolders CenterFold origami convention 740-334-4213
Re: [Origami] Kraft Paper suitable for origami
Fadeless brand color paper is available in 48" widths in 12 colors. We purchase it at a school supply store. 50 foot by 4 foot width roll is about $12 USD. That is less than half the price I see it anywhere else. Their web site is www.starbeaconproducts.net but you might want to search for a local discount school supply store. John Scully
