autoreload of jsp files failed while working hard on a single jsp
hi, usally the autoreload function of jsp's works fine, but after some savings on a single jsp or some time passes (something between 10 minutes and half a day) orion does not reload the jsp correctly. if you press reload in your browser the old page is shown without changes actually made in the jsp. deleting the cache files did not help. we use orion 1.4.7 on window 2000 with jdk 1.3 any ideas or similar problems? norman ._ neteye GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://net-eye.de _.
Re: autoreload of jsp files failed while working hard on a single jsp
you have to restart orion..no other option. santosh -Original Message- From: Norman Timmler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, April 12, 2001 1:48 PM Subject: autoreload of jsp files failed while working hard on a single jsp hi, usally the autoreload function of jsp's works fine, but after some savings on a single jsp or some time passes (something between 10 minutes and half a day) orion does not reload the jsp correctly. if you press reload in your browser the old page is shown without changes actually made in the jsp. deleting the cache files did not help. we use orion 1.4.7 on window 2000 with jdk 1.3 any ideas or similar problems? norman ._ neteye GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://net-eye.de _.
RE: javax.crypto
Hi,I want to generate secret key for encrypting a credit card number. But It provide a error as follow:java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError
at javax.crypto.KeyGenerator.getInstance([DashoPro-V1.2-120198])Could anyone tell me what this error is? any help I would highly appreciate.Van DuongMy code:
import java.security.*;import javax.crypto.*;/*** This program demonstrates how to generate a secret-key object for* HMAC-MD5, and initialize an HMAC-MD5 object with it.*/public class initMac { public static void main(String[] args) throws Exception {// Install SunJCE providerProvider sunJce = new com.sun.crypto.provider.SunJCE();Security.addProvider(sunJce);// Generate secret key for HMAC-MD5KeyGenerator kg = KeyGenerator.getInstance("HmacMD5");SecretKey sk = kg.generateKey();// Get instance of Mac object implementing HMAC-MD5, and // initialize it with the above secret keyMac mac = Mac.getInstance("HmacMD5");mac.init(sk);byte[] result = mac.doFinal("Hi There".getBytes()); }}
-Original Message-From: Dean Parker
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001
12:34 PMTo: Orion-InterestSubject: RE:
javax.crypto
That
consists of 4 jars known collectively as JCE(Java Cryptography
Extension). The current version is 1.2.1.
jce1_2_1.jar
local_policy.jar
sunjce_provider.jar
US_export_policy.jar
jce1_2_1.jar is the actual API. sunjce_provider.jar is Suns'
implementation of their API. It contains the actual algorithms and code that
does all the work. Offhand, I don't know of any other 3rd parties that have
implemented the API.
These files must be downloaded from Sun's website at this
URL..
http://www.java.sun.com/products/jce/index.html
DP
-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Van
DuongSent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 3:40 AMTo:
Orion-InterestSubject: javax.crypto
Hi,
Does anyone cantell me wherethe
packagejavax.crypto is?
Thanks in advance,
Van
Duong
Re: Including jar files in my web app ?
Title: SV: Including jar files in my web app ? Hi Eddie, I have been experiencing the same classpath-related problems. Searching through this maillinglist i found out more people have problems with this. One thing that seems to be working is starting orion without -jar orion.jar but with com.evermind.server.ApplicationServer but still it seems you need to put all application-specific classes in the classpath before starting orion because when i put classpath path="./WEB-INF/lib/" / in my orion-web.xml (where i have a jar-file containing application-specific classes in the WEB-INF/lib-dir.) and startup orion with just the normal orion-jars and without the application-specific classes in the classpath he still can't find the classes. But when i put them in the classpath when starting orion, there are no problems. But when only this way works, what's the use of the classpath../-tag (and other classpath/library-related tags) when it's not working anyway without putting them all in the classpath before starting orion ? So my question also is, is there a standard way, not putting al the application-classes in the classpath before starting orion, of solving these kind of classpath-problems? Because this way, when i add a new application i also may have to change my startup-script which can't be how it's supposed to be, or at least i think so.(?) Any help and/or thoughts on this matter would be greatly appreciated! Jasper. - Original Message - From: Eddie To: Orion-Interest Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 6:53 PM Subject: Re: Including jar files in my web app ? Hi Magnus and others ofcourse, It has been a while since this issue passed by, but that is because we have been struggling with it since. I am still not able to include jar files that I put in my WEB-INF/lib dir, particular: velocity.jar. Also someone else in this newsgroup has been busy with it, on orion 1.4.7, on the same application on a different machine and has the same problem. BTW: I am able to use the jar when i put it in orion/config/application.xml with library path... it works but it contains a static class and I need one for every application. Everytime I get the error that it can't find the class (ClassDefNotFound). What I tried: - Just putting them in the WEB-INF/lib dir, but it can't find it. - putting the velocity.jar in other places, like in the root of the application. -jar file in the WEB-INF/lib and putting the following tag in the orion-web.xml: classpath path="./WEB-INF/lib/" / - and also tried classpath path="./WEB-INF/lib/velocity.jar" / - unpacking the jar and putting it in the WEB-INF/classes dir where the servlets are located in packages that I call through servlet ref's - When I put the WEB-INF/lib/velocity.jar in the CLASSPATH, yes it does find it, but then all applications find the same velocity.jar and that doesn't work.!!! - Tried to include the jar int the META-INF/application.xml: moduleejb/opt/Orion/lib/counter.jar/ejb/modulebut is than complains: --- Error auto-deploying application-client at velocity.jar: Unable to find/read assembly info for /home/development/sgs/velocity.jar (META-INF/application-client.xml) The file exists and has the necessary tags, only it is empty as I don't know what to put in it. - I find in the newsgroup archive, that solved the problem by starting orion with: com.evermind.server.ApplicationServer insted through orion.jar - I think I tried some more things but reallu nothing worked. PLEASSE tell me how I can see where Orion looks for the jar file, as this problem is really driving my comletely nuts...!! I found a lot of little things about this subject. I tried about everyting, but nothing helped. I lost the logic here, so hope that someone can help me out, here, otherwise I . Eddie :( - Original Message - From: Magnus Rydin To: Orion-Interest Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 11:05 AM Subject: SV: Including jar files in my web app ? This is strange.. I have no problem with having a couple of jars in /WEB-INF/lib -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: Court Demas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Skickat: den 5 april 2001 00:36 Till: Orion-Interest Ämne: Re: Including jar files in my web app ?I just had a similar problem. Orion saw classes *either* in WEB-INF/classes *or* in WEB-INF/lib. My solution was to either unpack all classes into WEB-INF/classes (removing the lib directory), or create one huge JAR file in WEB-INF/lib (removing the classes directory). I hope there's a better solution! court Eddie wrote: I don't seem be able to tell Orion 1.4.7 te read my bla.jar that is located in the
Orion-Struts (more question)
Hi, Thanks to the trick I have seen on this site about how to make struts working with Orion, I thought that was all good...not exactly. I can use most of tags I need, except the bean:message one: html:link page="/editRegistration.do?action=create"Registration/html:link (The trick is to remove the dtd from the struts.jar and put them in the WEB-INF/classes of the application) This throws the following exception: javax.servlet.jsp.JspException: Cannot find message resources under key org.apache.struts.action.MESSAGE at org.apache.struts.util.RequestUtils.message(RequestUtils.java:285) Any success from someone ?? Thanks, Olivier
Setting a Stateful Session Bean Timeout
The "Mastering Enterprise Java Beans" says that EJB descriptor defines the bean specific timeout. Orion file "ejb-jar.xml" alows tag env-entry to set entries but documentation doesn't mention how to set bean timeout. After deplyment in orion-ejb.jar.xml file there is parameter timeout set to 1800 which i assume means half an hour. Changing it dosn't give any results. Do you know if it is possible to change it or 1800 sec is a valu specific to Orion? Thank you for any help.
AW: autoreload of jsp files failed while working hard on a single jsp
it is a bug, isn't it? really anoying if you work with 3 or more people on one project. you have to restart the orion server every 10 minutes and it takes a while to come up again. :-(( -Ursprngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Im Auftrag von Santosh Kumar Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. April 2001 10:23 An: Orion-Interest Betreff: Re: autoreload of jsp files failed while working hard on a single jsp you have to restart orion..no other option. santosh -Original Message- From: Norman Timmler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, April 12, 2001 1:48 PM Subject: autoreload of jsp files failed while working hard on a single jsp hi, usally the autoreload function of jsp's works fine, but after some savings on a single jsp or some time passes (something between 10 minutes and half a day) orion does not reload the jsp correctly. if you press reload in your browser the old page is shown without changes actually made in the jsp. deleting the cache files did not help. we use orion 1.4.7 on window 2000 with jdk 1.3 any ideas or similar problems? norman ._ neteye GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://net-eye.de _.
RE: parsePostData
Frank, Did you figure this problem out? I have been having the same problem and hope you can shed some light on the subject. Ernie, Because it is nice to have all of the data in one variable that isn't a request object. Just my two cents. Carl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Frank LaRosa Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 12:51 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: parsePostData I'm having some trouble parsing form data in a JSP page. I'm using this code: Hashtable ht = HttpUtils.parsePostData( request.getContentLength(), request.getInputStream() ); The result is always a Hashtable with a size of zero, even though there should be data in the form. I posted the form with form method="POST" action="myPage.jsp". Can anyone spot what I'm doing wrong? Thanks.
RE: Kawa 5.0 Ent and Orion 1.4.7
I think someone on this list contacted the Kawa development team, and the answer they received was that integration with Orion would be accomplished in an up and coming Kawa service pack. -Original Message- From: Kalle Anka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 5:06 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Kawa 5.0 Ent and Orion 1.4.7 Hi all, has anyone succesfully been able to configure Kawa 5.0 Enterprise with Orion 1.4.7 ? What I'm looking for is all the parameters needed for the EJB serve dialog box like EJB Server parameters, Packager, Deployer, Unddeployer and so forth. I've tried Allaire but no answer so far besides read on the FAQ. But there is nothing there. Thanks, Brynolf _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: autoreload of jsp files failed while working hard on a single jsp
That is a major source of concern and wastage of time for our dev. project. But we got used to it. ;-) -Original Message- From: Norman Timmler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, April 12, 2001 5:58 PM Subject: AW: autoreload of jsp files failed while working hard on a single jsp it is a bug, isn't it? really anoying if you work with 3 or more people on one project. you have to restart the orion server every 10 minutes and it takes a while to come up again. :-(( -Ursprngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Im Auftrag von Santosh Kumar Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. April 2001 10:23 An: Orion-Interest Betreff: Re: autoreload of jsp files failed while working hard on a single jsp you have to restart orion..no other option. santosh -Original Message- From: Norman Timmler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, April 12, 2001 1:48 PM Subject: autoreload of jsp files failed while working hard on a single jsp hi, usally the autoreload function of jsp's works fine, but after some savings on a single jsp or some time passes (something between 10 minutes and half a day) orion does not reload the jsp correctly. if you press reload in your browser the old page is shown without changes actually made in the jsp. deleting the cache files did not help. we use orion 1.4.7 on window 2000 with jdk 1.3 any ideas or similar problems? norman ._ neteye GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://net-eye.de _.
sharing class files between applications
Hello, Is there a way to specify classpath for a web application so that instead of having all servlets and other class files int WEB-INF/classes I could share them between different web applications. And yes, I still want to use development=true option and have the class files compiled automatically. And no, I am not packaging them into jar or whatever archive yet. what do you think? best regards, Taavi
java.lang.InternalError thrown ...
Hi,
The jdk 1.3 JVM of SUN (oth on Windows and Linux) throws a
java.lang.InternalError on redeployment, after calling
Runtime.getRuntime.exec(...).
At some moment in time a need to do some administration on my Linux server.
That moment is defined my a client calling a Session Bean on the orion
server. To start the administrative stuff I use
Runtime.getRuntime().exec("mycommand").
This cuases next time I deploy the application module a
java.lang.InternalError.
As far as I have been able to test it, it look like it has only to do with
redeployment. I can call the adminstrative stuff a number of times. I do
'destroy()' the process created by the exec() call. The problem is gone
after restarting the server.
FE
Frank Eggink
Swift Applications
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One, two, three: Testing ...
Auto-deploying test (Previous deployment not found)...
java.lang.InternalError: name was null
at com.evermind.server.deployment.SecurityRole.(JAX)
at com.evermind.server.NamespaceAccessController.ant(JAX)
at com.evermind.server.NamespaceAccessController.a7(JAX)
at com.evermind.server.deployment.EnterpriseArchive.og(JAX)
at com.evermind.server.deployment.EnterpriseArchive.p7(JAX)
at com.evermind.server.ServerComponent.ane(JAX)
at com.evermind.server.ServerComponent.anf(JAX)
at com.evermind.server.deployment.EnterpriseArchive.akz(JAX)
at com.evermind.server.ServerComponent.update(JAX)
at com.evermind.server.deployment.EnterpriseArchive.update(JAX)
at com.evermind.server.ApplicationServer.ux(JAX)
at com.evermind.server.hd.run(JAX)
at com.evermind.util.g.run(JAX)
at com.evermind.util.f.run(JAX)
R: Orion-Struts (more question)
In your code fragment there's no "bean:message" tags. Anyway, I've got the following line in a jsp that works fine: html:link page="/ricercaSoggetto.do"bean:message key="index.soggetto.ricerca"//html:link You need the following init-param in the ActionServlet configuration (web.xml): init-param param-nameapplication/param-name param-valueApplicationResources/param-value /init-param and you need, of course, the key "index.soggetto.ricerca" defined in the file "ApplicationResources.properties" that has to be in yourWebDirectory/WEB-INF/classes Good luck! Giustino De Vincentiis -Messaggio originale- Da: olivier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Inviato: gioved 12 aprile 2001 13.13 A: Orion-Interest Oggetto: Orion-Struts (more question) Hi, Thanks to the trick I have seen on this site about how to make struts working with Orion, I thought that was all good...not exactly. I can use most of tags I need, except the bean:message one: html:link page="/editRegistration.do?action=create"Registration/html:link (The trick is to remove the dtd from the struts.jar and put them in the WEB-INF/classes of the application) This throws the following exception: javax.servlet.jsp.JspException: Cannot find message resources under key org.apache.struts.action.MESSAGE at org.apache.struts.util.RequestUtils.message(RequestUtils.java:285) Any success from someone ?? Thanks, Olivier
RE: Kawa 5.0 Ent and Orion 1.4.7
Hi, He have received a beta release of Kawa 5.0 SP1 (which includes out of the box support for Orion) for testing sometime ago. There is at present a SP1 available from Allaire's website for download (http://www.allaire.com) although as we are not using it (we are using the one that they sent to us directly) I can't tell whether it supports Orion or not. If it does not then either contact Allaire about it or myself ([EMAIL PROTECTED] ) and we can forward it to you. I hope Allaire will not mind. Jarek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kemp Randy-W18971 Sent: 12 April 2001 13:35 To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: Kawa 5.0 Ent and Orion 1.4.7 I think someone on this list contacted the Kawa development team, and the answer they received was that integration with Orion would be accomplished in an up and coming Kawa service pack. -Original Message- From: Kalle Anka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 5:06 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Kawa 5.0 Ent and Orion 1.4.7 Hi all, has anyone succesfully been able to configure Kawa 5.0 Enterprise with Orion 1.4.7 ? What I'm looking for is all the parameters needed for the EJB serve dialog box like EJB Server parameters, Packager, Deployer, Unddeployer and so forth. I've tried Allaire but no answer so far besides read on the FAQ. But there is nothing there. Thanks, Brynolf _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Xerces and Xalan
Why does Orion uses such old versions of Xerces and Xalan? It would be nice with JAXP 1.1 support.
RE: autoreload of jsp files failed while working hard on a single jsp
I think you all have more problems than Orion. I'd suggest looking at the dates on your multiple machines (usually this happens when one is behind another so the save does not come up as a modified file on the server). I've NEVER had to restart Orion to load a JSP before - and it's been working like that since pre 0.7 ;) -mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Santosh Kumar Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 10:35 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: autoreload of jsp files failed while working hard on a single jsp That is a major source of concern and wastage of time for our dev. project. But we got used to it. ;-) -Original Message- From: Norman Timmler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, April 12, 2001 5:58 PM Subject: AW: autoreload of jsp files failed while working hard on a single jsp it is a bug, isn't it? really anoying if you work with 3 or more people on one project. you have to restart the orion server every 10 minutes and it takes a while to come up again. :-(( -Ursprngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Im Auftrag von Santosh Kumar Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. April 2001 10:23 An: Orion-Interest Betreff: Re: autoreload of jsp files failed while working hard on a single jsp you have to restart orion..no other option. santosh -Original Message- From: Norman Timmler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, April 12, 2001 1:48 PM Subject: autoreload of jsp files failed while working hard on a single jsp hi, usally the autoreload function of jsp's works fine, but after some savings on a single jsp or some time passes (something between 10 minutes and half a day) orion does not reload the jsp correctly. if you press reload in your browser the old page is shown without changes actually made in the jsp. deleting the cache files did not help. we use orion 1.4.7 on window 2000 with jdk 1.3 any ideas or similar problems? norman ._ neteye GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://net-eye.de _.
Re: Xerces and Xalan
1.4.8 is rumoured to support JAXP1.1, so we just have to wait for the next update! On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Mikael Stldal wrote: Why does Orion uses such old versions of Xerces and Xalan? It would be nice with JAXP 1.1 support.
Re: AW: autoreload of jsp files failed while working hard on a single jsp
Has anyone posted this to bugzilla? Just a thought At 14:23 12/04/2001 +0200, you wrote: it is a bug, isn't it? really anoying if you work with 3 or more people on one project. you have to restart the orion server every 10 minutes and it takes a while to come up again. :-(( -Ursprngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Im Auftrag von Santosh Kumar Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. April 2001 10:23 An: Orion-Interest Betreff: Re: autoreload of jsp files failed while working hard on a single jsp you have to restart orion..no other option. santosh -Original Message- From: Norman Timmler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, April 12, 2001 1:48 PM Subject: autoreload of jsp files failed while working hard on a single jsp hi, usally the autoreload function of jsp's works fine, but after some savings on a single jsp or some time passes (something between 10 minutes and half a day) orion does not reload the jsp correctly. if you press reload in your browser the old page is shown without changes actually made in the jsp. deleting the cache files did not help. we use orion 1.4.7 on window 2000 with jdk 1.3 any ideas or similar problems? norman ._ neteye GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://net-eye.de _. -- Dan North VP Development - Cadrion Software Ltd - +44 (0)20 7440 9550 CONFIDENTIALITY This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to another person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium
JMS and Orion
I setup an application that successfully uses a pub/sub topic. On subscriber side I am currently using "subscriber.receive()" to retrieve the sent messages (in an extra thread). So far, so good. But: I'd like to use "subscriber.setMessageListener()" instead. And this doesn't work (up to now). I seems that my MessageListener doesn't get informed when new Messages arrive. The jms demo of orion also works with subscriber.receive(). Does the MessageListener variation work at all? Has anyone succeeded in using this technique? Hope someone could help me. Yours Armin Michel
Re: sharing class files between applications
I know this is not the solution you're looking for, but what I do is simply define all my packages in /com/domainName/package(s)/classes. Then in the /WEB-INF/classes directory for each application, I simply make a symbolic link ( ln -s /com com). So far, so good. On Thursday, April 12, 2001, at 05:59 AM, Taavi Tiirik wrote: Hello, Is there a way to specify classpath for a web application so that instead of having all servlets and other class files int WEB-INF/classes I could share them between different web applications. And yes, I still want to use development=true option and have the class files compiled automatically. And no, I am not packaging them into jar or whatever archive yet. what do you think? best regards, Taavi -- Geoffrey W. MarshallDirector of Development --- t e r r a s c o p ephone (415) 951-4944 54 Mint St #110 direct (415) 625-0349 San Francisco, CA 94103 fax (415) 625-0306 ---
RE: autoreload of jsp files failed while working hard on a single jsp
I agree. I havent had a problem till date of Orion not auto re-loading my jsp files. I do this all the time and in fact quite a few JSP files get updated on our production system all the time without having to restart orion. Aniket At 07:12 PM 4/12/2001, you wrote: I think you all have more problems than Orion. I'd suggest looking at the dates on your multiple machines (usually this happens when one is behind another so the save does not come up as a modified file on the server). I've NEVER had to restart Orion to load a JSP before - and it's been working like that since pre 0.7 ;) -mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Santosh Kumar Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 10:35 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: autoreload of jsp files failed while working hard on a single jsp That is a major source of concern and wastage of time for our dev. project. But we got used to it. ;-) -Original Message- From: Norman Timmler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, April 12, 2001 5:58 PM Subject: AW: autoreload of jsp files failed while working hard on a single jsp it is a bug, isn't it? really anoying if you work with 3 or more people on one project. you have to restart the orion server every 10 minutes and it takes a while to come up again. :-(( -Ursprngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Im Auftrag von Santosh Kumar Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. April 2001 10:23 An: Orion-Interest Betreff: Re: autoreload of jsp files failed while working hard on a single jsp you have to restart orion..no other option. santosh -Original Message- From: Norman Timmler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, April 12, 2001 1:48 PM Subject: autoreload of jsp files failed while working hard on a single jsp hi, usally the autoreload function of jsp's works fine, but after some savings on a single jsp or some time passes (something between 10 minutes and half a day) orion does not reload the jsp correctly. if you press reload in your browser the old page is shown without changes actually made in the jsp. deleting the cache files did not help. we use orion 1.4.7 on window 2000 with jdk 1.3 any ideas or similar problems? norman ._ neteye GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://net-eye.de _.
RE: Xerces and Xalan
I upgraded my versions without any problems encountered - maybe you too could benefit from replacing your two jar files. Remember, however, that you should download the latest version of Xalan and use BOTH the xalan.jar AND THE xerces.jar which comes with Xalan - that way you can be sure your xalan.jar and xerces.jar are compatible. I have not noticed anyone reporting errors seen from updating xalan and xerces in Orion, but if anyone has had any trouble, I suggest you write a mail to this list. Yours Randahl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mikael Stldal Sent: 12. april 2001 15:32 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Xerces and Xalan Why does Orion uses such old versions of Xerces and Xalan? It would be nice with JAXP 1.1 support.
RE: javax.crypto
Try
placing the 4 cryptography jars in java_home\jre\lib\ext directory of
the virtual machine you are using.
DP
-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Van
DuongSent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 4:33 AMTo:
Orion-InterestSubject: RE: javax.crypto
Hi,I want to generate secret key for encrypting a credit card number. But It provide a error as follow:java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError
at javax.crypto.KeyGenerator.getInstance([DashoPro-V1.2-120198])Could anyone tell me what this error is? any help I would highly appreciate.Van DuongMy code:
import java.security.*;import javax.crypto.*;/*** This program demonstrates how to generate a secret-key object for* HMAC-MD5, and initialize an HMAC-MD5 object with it.*/public class initMac { public static void main(String[] args) throws Exception {// Install SunJCE providerProvider sunJce = new com.sun.crypto.provider.SunJCE();Security.addProvider(sunJce);// Generate secret key for HMAC-MD5KeyGenerator kg = KeyGenerator.getInstance("HmacMD5");SecretKey sk = kg.generateKey();// Get instance of Mac object implementing HMAC-MD5, and // initialize it with the above secret keyMac mac = Mac.getInstance("HmacMD5");mac.init(sk);byte[] result = mac.doFinal("Hi There".getBytes()); }}
-Original Message-From: Dean Parker
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001
12:34 PMTo: Orion-InterestSubject: RE:
javax.crypto
That consists of 4 jars known collectively as JCE(Java
Cryptography Extension). The current version is 1.2.1.
jce1_2_1.jar
local_policy.jar
sunjce_provider.jar
US_export_policy.jar
jce1_2_1.jar is the actual API. sunjce_provider.jar is Suns'
implementation of their API. It contains the actual algorithms and code that
does all the work. Offhand, I don't know of any other 3rd parties that have
implemented the API.
These files must be downloaded from Sun's website at this
URL..
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-Original Message-From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Van
DuongSent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 3:40 AMTo:
Orion-InterestSubject: javax.crypto
Hi,
Does anyone cantell me wherethe
packagejavax.crypto is?
Thanks in advance,
Van
Duong
RE: autoreload of jsp files failed while working hard on a single jsp
Auto-reload works correctly for me only for files in the applications/my-app/my-app-web directory. Files in subdirectories of .../my-app-web, e.g. .../my-app-web/secure/*.jsp don't get automatically reloaded ... so far couldn't find any deployment descriptor that would change this behaviour. --peter
RE: parsePostData
Maybe you can get what you want if you take a look at the File Upload Page on www.orionsupport.com (at least when the site can be accessed - it's great, but seems ot be too popular for it's own good, and can't be accessed half of the time) --peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Fyffe Carl Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 6:22 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: parsePostData Frank, Did you figure this problem out? I have been having the same problem and hope you can shed some light on the subject. Ernie, Because it is nice to have all of the data in one variable that isn't a request object. Just my two cents. Carl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Frank LaRosa Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 12:51 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: parsePostData I'm having some trouble parsing form data in a JSP page. I'm using this code: Hashtable ht = HttpUtils.parsePostData( request.getContentLength(), request.getInputStream() ); The result is always a Hashtable with a size of zero, even though there should be data in the form. I posted the form with form method="POST" action="myPage.jsp". Can anyone spot what I'm doing wrong? Thanks.
www.orionsupport.com
I haven't been able to use www.orionsupport.com from this corner of world for some time now. Is it just me or is it bigger? It does respond to ping though but http server seems to have problems. Can anybody pour some light... thanks, Taavi
Re[2]: AW: autoreload of jsp files failed while working hard on a single jsp
Orion autoreload features have worked very well al the time, either in development, integration and production enviroments, EXCEPT when we got a problem of date synchronization between our integration and production servers (our integration server have a date greater that the production one). Anyway, you can force reload deleting the $(ORIONHOME)/application-deployments/$(APP)\$(WEBMODULE)\persistence directory, where all the jspCache file are stored. And just a tougth. For all of you who have lots of EJB in their apps, I suggest you to use a faster compiler for orion. We use fastjavac which comes with Forte CE, and it REALLY cut down the restarting time. In our case, it cut it from 1 min 45 sec to 15 sec! Hope this help. -- Best regards, Rafaelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ORION RISE FROM THE DEAD!
I've been watching Orion for awhile using/testing. It so close to being ideal for me and my clients and we are ready to buy. But development seems to have stopped lately. Updates to the web site are virtually non-existant (ie ORION 1.2 released on main site)...meanwhile we are up to 1.4.5 since Jan 22. I am happy with its current state. I just sucessfully tested SSL with it. I haven't done much in terms of EJB yet, but my experiences with orion still have been great. SO ORION - Please get your act together. Or if you must go out of businessdo it soonso I can look at enhydra/weblogic/websphere again...I haven't looked at them in awhile because I have been happy with orion. It's for your own good. You obviously have some great programmers who developed this product. They should either keep working on it, or find another product to work on. Best of luck David
RE: www.orionsupport.com
No, it's not just you. So, unless you also live and work in Nova Scotia, it's not a localized problem. I haven't gotten through all day. Regards, Arved Sandstrom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Taavi Tiirik Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 3:03 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: www.orionsupport.com I haven't been able to use www.orionsupport.com from this corner of world for some time now. Is it just me or is it bigger? It does respond to ping though but http server seems to have problems. Can anybody pour some light... thanks, Taavi
RE: JMS and Orion
There is a bug posted for this...I had the same problem. I use my own thread to receive the messages. Claudio -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Armin Michel Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 7:48 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: JMS and Orion I setup an application that successfully uses a pub/sub topic. On subscriber side I am currently using "subscriber.receive()" to retrieve the sent messages (in an extra thread). So far, so good. But: I'd like to use "subscriber.setMessageListener()" instead. And this doesn't work (up to now). I seems that my MessageListener doesn't get informed when new Messages arrive. The jms demo of orion also works with subscriber.receive(). Does the MessageListener variation work at all? Has anyone succeeded in using this technique? Hope someone could help me. Yours Armin Michel
Usage of the Service console...
I've been playing with the Service console. It took me way longer to create, install and deploy a J2ee app using the console than it did when I did everything myself on the command line (creating the directory structures, creating very simple deployment descriptors, creating the jar and war files and finally editing the server.xml and default-web-site.xml files). I know the console is said to be "alpha" quality - but was just curious - is any one out there using the console on a regular basis? Do you find it really useful? In what scenarios do you find this more useful - while creating and deploying apps or for monitoring or for redeploying apps? There seems to be a great deal of functionality in the console, however the lack of documentation/help is a big drawback. --Chaya. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: www.orionsupport.com
There is a trick. goto google and do something like this. jndi site:orionsupport.com Then used the cached results :) Taavi Tiirik wrote: I haven't been able to use www.orionsupport.com from this corner of world for some time now. Is it just me or is it bigger? It does respond to ping though but http server seems to have problems. Can anybody pour some light... thanks, Taavi
url-pattern help
To get multiple mappings I seem to have to do this for things to work: servlet-mapping servlet-namejtransit/servlet-name url-pattern/*.taf/url-pattern /servlet-mapping servlet-mapping servlet-namejtransit/servlet-name url-pattern/*.tml/url-pattern /servlet-mapping Is there no way to put in multiple url-patterns per servlet mapping? When I try it it fails miserably. R Robert S. Sfeir Director of Software Development PERCEPTICON corporation San Francisco, CA 94123 w - http://www.percepticon.com/ e- [EMAIL PROTECTED] t - (415) 749-2900 x205
RE: ORION RISE FROM THE DEAD!
David: Most people on this list are fans of Orion and are rooting for them to succeed. Personally, I root for the small guys, like Orion, Jboss, and Jonas, only because this technology should be available to everyone, and not just companies with deep pockets. Orion is the only commercial server under $5000 that is any good, and able to go toe to toe with BEA on several points. I wouldn't want them to go out of business, and would much rather Orion became an open source project before that happens. It has too much potential to fold. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 1:34 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: ORION RISE FROM THE DEAD! I've been watching Orion for awhile using/testing. It so close to being ideal for me and my clients and we are ready to buy. But development seems to have stopped lately. Updates to the web site are virtually non-existant (ie ORION 1.2 released on main site)...meanwhile we are up to 1.4.5 since Jan 22. I am happy with its current state. I just sucessfully tested SSL with it. I haven't done much in terms of EJB yet, but my experiences with orion still have been great. SO ORION - Please get your act together. Or if you must go out of businessdo it soonso I can look at enhydra/weblogic/websphere again...I haven't looked at them in awhile because I have been happy with orion. It's for your own good. You obviously have some great programmers who developed this product. They should either keep working on it, or find another product to work on. Best of luck David
RE: www.orionsupport.com
No luck here in IL, USA -Original Message- From: Mike Sick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 1:25 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: www.orionsupport.com no luck here in NC, USA - Original Message - From: "Taavi Tiirik" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 2:02 PM Subject: www.orionsupport.com I haven't been able to use www.orionsupport.com from this corner of world for some time now. Is it just me or is it bigger? It does respond to ping though but http server seems to have problems. Can anybody pour some light... thanks, Taavi
Re: ORION RISE FROM THE DEAD!
Boy, do I ever second those sentiments. So far, we've had *great* luck with Orion, including CMP EJBs/JSP/taglibs/filters... I've worked with the commercial servers, Enhydra, and jBoss as well, and I really hope that Orion is released into the open-source community if they're going to tank as a business. My impression is that this is a well-written product, particularly in terms of speed. It would be shame to see it disappear. By the way, if some help is needed to host (or provide an alternative to) orionsupport, please let me know. I know the boss here; I'm sure we could work something out. Thanks, Rian -- Rian Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 11:34 AM Subject: ORION RISE FROM THE DEAD! I've been watching Orion for awhile using/testing. It so close to being ideal for me and my clients and we are ready to buy. But development seems to have stopped lately. Updates to the web site are virtually non-existant (ie ORION 1.2 released on main site)...meanwhile we are up to 1.4.5 since Jan 22. I am happy with its current state. I just sucessfully tested SSL with it. I haven't done much in terms of EJB yet, but my experiences with orion still have been great. SO ORION - Please get your act together. Or if you must go out of businessdo it soonso I can look at enhydra/weblogic/websphere again...I haven't looked at them in awhile because I have been happy with orion. It's for your own good. You obviously have some great programmers who developed this product. They should either keep working on it, or find another product to work on. Best of luck David
Re: ORION RISE FROM THE DEAD! - What we have here is a failure to communicate ...
Hey Randy, I think that most people who bothered to join this list want Orion to succeed and I can see how you might have taken David's words badly. There's no doubt that there are a significant number of Orion fans that are very dedicated (me included). It's natural, however, to want resolution and orionserver's lack of progress in the last few months should raise significant concern. Add 'a failure to communicate' to the mix and concern will turn to frustration, desperation, and worse. Orion's strength as a product has allowed a small but significant developer community to emerge around it. The activity on this list, the various support sites, and the strong word of mouth growth of Orion are all signs that developers care and will support the product. But it's impossible to help if you don't know what's wrong. Mike Sick - Original Message - From: "Kemp Randy-W18971" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 3:55 PM Subject: RE: ORION RISE FROM THE DEAD! David: Most people on this list are fans of Orion and are rooting for them to succeed. Personally, I root for the small guys, like Orion, Jboss, and Jonas, only because this technology should be available to everyone, and not just companies with deep pockets. Orion is the only commercial server under $5000 that is any good, and able to go toe to toe with BEA on several points. I wouldn't want them to go out of business, and would much rather Orion became an open source project before that happens. It has too much potential to fold. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 1:34 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: ORION RISE FROM THE DEAD! I've been watching Orion for awhile using/testing. It so close to being ideal for me and my clients and we are ready to buy. But development seems to have stopped lately. Updates to the web site are virtually non-existant (ie ORION 1.2 released on main site)...meanwhile we are up to 1.4.5 since Jan 22. I am happy with its current state. I just sucessfully tested SSL with it. I haven't done much in terms of EJB yet, but my experiences with orion still have been great. SO ORION - Please get your act together. Or if you must go out of businessdo it soonso I can look at enhydra/weblogic/websphere again...I haven't looked at them in awhile because I have been happy with orion. It's for your own good. You obviously have some great programmers who developed this product. They should either keep working on it, or find another product to work on. Best of luck David
RE: ORION RISE FROM THE DEAD!
I just got a message from bugzila saying one of the bugs I submitted was fixed. This must mean that they are still updating the product.
Re: Re: ORION RISE FROM THE DEAD!
I really hope that Orion is released into the open-source community if they're going to tank as a business. I never thought of that. I guess the real question may be: "What is Orion's/Ironflare's business model?" Taking a wild guess, not based on any first hand knowledge/contact/experience, the 'problem' may be that orion's developer's want to continue programming and not become consultants, support technicians, etc... Which would be great to have quality developers on the project full time, but this seems contrary to a lot of the service models that are out there now. A lot of companies now repackage open source and get paid on service/consulting. Perhaps they need a quality partner or need to be bought out (maybe macromedia should have bought them out instead of buying allaire)...who knows...I'm not an expert in this field as I'm sure my views have proved. So I may be way off base. I'm just an avid java developer with a small, nimble company that likes to develop and utilize small, quick, and well-written software. (did you also ever notice that orion seems to be at most h! ! ! alf the size of other major app servers?) By the way, if some help is needed to host (or provide an alternative to) orionsupport, please let me know. I know the boss here; I'm sure we could work something out. I think a lot of people would help out in this department (including myself), especially if it was open source. I already have a kind of how-to in the works for SSL using chained certificates from Entrust.net. David
Re: Re: ORION RISE FROM THE DEAD!
David, nothing personal, I'm just hanging my reply off yours as it's the latest one in this thread... BUT some of us are very bored of this thread popping up every few weeks. Sure, Orion hasn't released a new version in a couple of months now (I think), and I'm as desperately eager for 1.4.8 as anyone here. Why does this always translate to 'Orion is tanking'? It WOULD be lovely if the Orion team were more active in their posts here, if nothing else, people would get that warm fuzzy feeling that is obviously so important. So in an ideal situation, we'd all get the best of both worlds. A kick ass product, and warm fuzzies all round (well, and a much better support infrastructure!). But as has been said before, I'm in the group that of those 3 things, would choose the first. Hani On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really hope that Orion is released into the open-source community if they're going to tank as a business. I never thought of that. I guess the real question may be: "What is Orion's/Ironflare's business model?" Taking a wild guess, not based on any first hand knowledge/contact/experience, the 'problem' may be that orion's developer's want to continue programming and not become consultants, support technicians, etc... Which would be great to have quality developers on the project full time, but this seems contrary to a lot of the service models that are out there now. A lot of companies now repackage open source and get paid on service/consulting. Perhaps they need a quality partner or need to be bought out (maybe macromedia should have bought them out instead of buying allaire)...who knows...I'm not an expert in this field as I'm sure my views have proved. So I may be way off base. I'm just an avid java developer with a small, nimble company that likes to develop and utilize small, quick, and well-written software. (did you also ever notice that orion seems to be at most! h! ! ! alf the size of other major app servers?) By the way, if some help is needed to host (or provide an alternative to) orionsupport, please let me know. I know the boss here; I'm sure we could work something out. I think a lot of people would help out in this department (including myself), especially if it was open source. I already have a kind of how-to in the works for SSL using chained certificates from Entrust.net. David
Inprise AppServer vs Orion
Hi all, I am pushing hard to get Orion included in the last shortlist for our next product. Only because of the support issues(that everyone here understands),my manager is inclined to consider something like Inprise Appserver as a better alternative.. Now,could anyone here give me some figures,opinions ,etc about the performance of Inprise Appserver. How does it compare with Orion in terms of the key evaluation factors?(i understand, we would know which factors are more important for us...still) We have to have two major applications hosted on the appserver as part of the product deployment. The first one is not a real 'web' app. It has ejbs being accessed by distributed components and mix of some database and proprietary back end. The second application is a web application with servlet/jsp/corba components We have pretty strict performance requirements for both of these...And the first application has to have high availability as well... Any sort of suggestions, pointers,data,exclamations would be of high value Thanks, Jobin
RE: Inprise AppServer vs Orion
This might give you an idea. It compares different app. servers. http://www.flashline.com/Components/appservermatrix.jsp Hope It helps. Claudio -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 4:24 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Inprise AppServer vs Orion Hi all, I am pushing hard to get Orion included in the last shortlist for our next product. Only because of the support issues(that everyone here understands),my manager is inclined to consider something like Inprise Appserver as a better alternative.. Now,could anyone here give me some figures,opinions ,etc about the performance of Inprise Appserver. How does it compare with Orion in terms of the key evaluation factors?(i understand, we would know which factors are more important for us...still) We have to have two major applications hosted on the appserver as part of the product deployment. The first one is not a real 'web' app. It has ejbs being accessed by distributed components and mix of some database and proprietary back end. The second application is a web application with servlet/jsp/corba components We have pretty strict performance requirements for both of these...And the first application has to have high availability as well... Any sort of suggestions, pointers,data,exclamations would be of high value Thanks, Jobin
W3C Log Format
does orion support W3C Extended Format (like IIS)? http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-logfile.html if not, what can I do to change it? thanks folks! hitesh ___ hitesh r. patel 213.639.8837 ticketmaster online ticketmaster.com~citysearch.com~match.com
Re: parsePostData
Yes, I figured out that the parsePostData is intended for mime-encoded
multipart forms, not regular HTML forms.
I made myself a helper class to move all the form data into a hashtable. You
have to call this from within the JSP page, but then you can pass the
hashtable anywhere you want.
import java.util.*;
import javax.servlet.ServletRequest;
public class FormCollector
{
public static Hashtable parseForm(ServletRequest request)
{
Hashtable result = new Hashtable();
Enumeration names = request.getParameterNames();
while ( names.hasMoreElements() )
{
String name = (String) names.nextElement();
result.put( name, request.getParameter(name) );
}
return result;
}
}
- Original Message -
From: "Fyffe Carl" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 7:21 AM
Subject: RE: parsePostData
Frank,
Did you figure this problem out? I have been having the same problem and
hope you can shed some light on the subject.
Ernie,
Because it is nice to have all of the data in one variable that isn't a
request object. Just my two cents.
Carl
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Frank LaRosa
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 12:51 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: parsePostData
I'm having some trouble parsing form data in a JSP page.
I'm using this code:
Hashtable ht = HttpUtils.parsePostData( request.getContentLength(),
request.getInputStream() );
The result is always a Hashtable with a size of zero, even though there
should be data in the form.
I posted the form with form method="POST" action="myPage.jsp". Can
anyone
spot what I'm doing wrong? Thanks.
productive comment.
David, nothing personal, I'm just hanging my reply off yours as it's the latest one in this thread...BUT some of us are very bored of this thread popping up every few weeks. Sure, Orion hasn't released a new version in a couple of months now (I think), and I'm as desperately eager for 1.4.8 as anyone here. Why does this always translate to 'Orion is tanking'? I know where you are coming from. I love orion. The problem I have is when I have to rationalize its use to others. Here's the most basic recommendation that I think would go a long way (believe it or not) UPDATE THE WEB SITE ONCE A WEEK include simple news...even just a paragraph or to. perhaps explaining latest updates (in betas). If you have no newsadd link to new clients/web sites...I'm sure ...this would take about 10 minutes a week and would go a long way in helping me convince people to buy it...believe it or not. I know it has no relevance on the quality of the product, but it would make a huge difference in giving the people I work with confidence in Orion's future. This is necessary because orion is not open source and we can not update the orionserver.com site as a community. I know this is what orionsupport is for, however, when I have to get people to commit money to a product simple things go a long way. I hope this was a more productive comment.
Re: javax.crypto
One version is in jce1_2_1.jar You must download jce-1_2_1.zip from Sun. There are US export restrictions. Jay Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Van Duong wrote: Hi, Does anyone can tell me where the package javax.crypto is? Thanks in advance, Van Duong
RE: W3C Log Format
Hitesh, if you look at the documentation located at http://www.orionserver.com/docs/web-site.xml.html you will notice that there are few options available for the formatting of the output log. Here is some text from this file: access-log format="$ip - $user - [$time] '$request' $status $size" path="./access.log" split="none|hour|day|week|month" suffix="-n-y" / Relative/absolute path to the access-log for this site, this is where incoming requests will be logged. format - Optional formatting of the log entries. $ prefixes vars, the available vars are: $time, $request, $ip, $host, $path, $size, $method, $protocol, $user, $status, $referer, $time, $agent. path - The path to the logfile. split - When (if) to split the access logs, the default is NONE. suffix - The text to append to the log if splitting is used to make up the unique name for a timezone. The format used is that of java.text.SimpleDateFormat. Perhaps you can configure your web-site.xml with the proper logging options to match as close as possible (if not exact) to those defined by the W3C Log format. -AP_ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hitesh Patel Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 5:41 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: W3C Log Format does orion support W3C Extended Format (like IIS)? http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-logfile.html if not, what can I do to change it? thanks folks! hitesh ___ hitesh r. patel 213.639.8837 ticketmaster online ticketmaster.com~citysearch.com~match.com
Re: productive comment.
I agree with the comment below, but only to a point. I had another developer in our company raise concern over orion because of a database connection error that is thrown in the FAQ section of the orionserver.com website. I expressed to him, and I firmly believe, that I'd much rather have them working on new features and the occasional bug that pops up than updating/fixing/making the web site great. I agree with the PR that a good website provides, but great PR with a bad product isn't what we as developers want, at least I hope not. Maybe I'm among the minority, but the pocketbooks of our company rely on our technical expertise when it comes to making decisions, and I'm alot more comfortable going with Orion than Jrun, which is at least somewhat close in price range, just on the fact of standards compliance. I know that JRun 3.1 is J2EE certified, but we had nothing but headaches trying to get it to work. Going to Orion was like a dream come true, and as long as they continue! with a product that is easy to use and follows the spec, I'm all for it. Jeff Hubbach. On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:43:34 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: UPDATE THE WEB SITE ONCE A WEEK include simple news...even just a paragraph or to. perhaps explaining latest updates (in betas). If you have no newsadd link to new clients/web sites...I'm sure ...this would take about 10 minutes a week and would go a long way in helping me convince people to buy it...believe it or not. I know it has no relevance on the quality of the product, but it would make a huge difference in giving the people I work with confidence in Orion's future. This is necessary because orion is not open source and we can not update the orionserver.com site as a community. I know this is what orionsupport is for, however, when I have to get people to commit money to a product simple things go a long way. I hope this was a more productive comment.
RE: productive comment.
List, We have an organic community here, but the list has been our only output. The support from the company is lacking. Orionsupport seems to have been a good outlet for some, but appears to be down for a spell. Many here have used the other commercial packages (I have used weblogic and iplanet), but had to suffer through their "seminars" which are just over-blown sales meetings. If you are a small company, these are just not the products for you. It would be nice if we could post "success stories" and "hints" directly on the OrionServer web site. If they want to commercialize the product, and don't have the bucks or people to provide support...let *us* provide this service through a "community" process. About 18 months ago I started using the netbeans ide. At the time, its was the only jave 2 ide out there. The netbeans news server was well maintained by a support engineer for netbeans. Later they sold out to Sun, and a lot of that "organic" feeling went away. But the attention that one guy gave to the news service was great, and made using the product a good experience. If we could move the energy prevalent on the orion-interest news service into a "community" web page, maybe this could help all of us out? We could award *points* to the best answers to questions. We could have an ignore button. And yes, we could have a *paid* consultancy service for email questions, phone coaching, and even site visits. Many of the users of orion are independent consultants, so it is not out of the question that a community web service for orion wouldn't fill the gap for orion support. I think one thing missing from the OrionSupport web site was this last bitsome paid service for support. Its also missing from the Ironflare. If you notice, you can buy the product...but even if you wanted to pay for extra support, they don't sell it. If you are reading this at Orion, please consider the McDonald's model. They had a good idea for a hamburger, but how do you put a restaurant on every corner? You franchise the hamburger restaurant idea. Why does'nt Ironflare "franchise" the support for Orion? This way they could continue to write great software, but others would pay them to give great support service for Orion. I have been trying to call these guys for a month now, with no success. So my question is... How do we take the next step? Regards, The elephantwalker -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 5:44 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: productive comment. David, nothing personal, I'm just hanging my reply off yours as it's the latest one in this thread...BUT some of us are very bored of this thread popping up every few weeks. Sure, Orion hasn't released a new version in a couple of months now (I think), and I'm as desperately eager for 1.4.8 as anyone here. Why does this always translate to 'Orion is tanking'? I know where you are coming from. I love orion. The problem I have is when I have to rationalize its use to others. Here's the most basic recommendation that I think would go a long way (believe it or not) UPDATE THE WEB SITE ONCE A WEEK include simple news...even just a paragraph or to. perhaps explaining latest updates (in betas). If you have no newsadd link to new clients/web sites...I'm sure ...this would take about 10 minutes a week and would go a long way in helping me convince people to buy it...believe it or not. I know it has no relevance on the quality of the product, but it would make a huge difference in giving the people I work with confidence in Orion's future. This is necessary because orion is not open source and we can not update the orionserver.com site as a community. I know this is what orionsupport is for, however, when I have to get people to commit money to a product simple things go a long way. I hope this was a more productive comment.
Andrew J Papada/IDSS_CERT is out of the office.
I will be out of the office starting 04/13/2001 and will not return until 04/19/2001. I will respond to your message when I return.
RE: productive comment.
It would be nice if we could post "success stories" and "hints" directly on the OrionServer web site. If they want to commercialize the product, and don't have the bucks or people to provide support...let *us* provide this service through a "community" process. A great idea, and it's the idea behind orionsupport. A lot of people say 'lets contribute', but when push comes to shove, what tends to happen is that that enthusiasm is dulled by actually having to do work, and that just being enthusiastic isn't enough. Orionsupport hasn't gone anywhere, from what I can see the server is down for the time being, but I'm sure it'll be back up soon. It'd be good if people who have servers/bandwidth to donate could get in touch with those who run orionsupport and offer mirroring services. Also, why not write a nice J2ee app that lets people post 'success stories', or even 'hints and tips'? If people had actual content/code to contribute, I can't imagine that orionsupport will refuse to host it! They even took my crappy hastily written DataSourceUserManager notes and posted them! Hani
RE: productive comment.
RE: How do we take the next step? A sig is, classically a _S_pecial _I_nterest _G_roup, in the computer culture. orionsig.net, orionsig.org and orionsig.com are available. Pick 'em. Don't need a license from anyone to be a 'general purpose special interest group,' as long as you don't purport to be in any 'special' circumstance or make unfounded claims or use words that have obvious legal meaning. I've got a fixed IP, but it's on a slow and restricted connection. I know an ISP that is easy to work with, charges $39/mo, knows how to run services for Java, and is relatively small and responsive, and accesses through a multiple T3 (second-tier backbone access, they're actually a small CLEC). They also are an accredited registrar for all the above TLD's (turn-around is typically about 24 hours to propagate through BIND/DNS and the internic). I'd be willing to donate the first six months worth of host costs, and, after 30 days, pay for the Orion license myself (gotta run the site on Orion, don't we?) with these guys or anyone better. Let's just DO IT. Anyone else want to help? Michael Cannon mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of elephantwalker Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 10:28 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: productive comment. List, We have an organic community here, but the list has been our only output. The support from the company is lacking. Orionsupport seems to have been a good outlet for some, but appears to be down for a spell. Many here have used the other commercial packages (I have used weblogic and iplanet), but had to suffer through their "seminars" which are just over-blown sales meetings. If you are a small company, these are just not the products for you. It would be nice if we could post "success stories" and "hints" directly on the OrionServer web site. If they want to commercialize the product, and don't have the bucks or people to provide support...let *us* provide this service through a "community" process. About 18 months ago I started using the netbeans ide. At the time, its was the only jave 2 ide out there. The netbeans news server was well maintained by a support engineer for netbeans. Later they sold out to Sun, and a lot of that "organic" feeling went away. But the attention that one guy gave to the news service was great, and made using the product a good experience. If we could move the energy prevalent on the orion-interest news service into a "community" web page, maybe this could help all of us out? We could award *points* to the best answers to questions. We could have an ignore button. And yes, we could have a *paid* consultancy service for email questions, phone coaching, and even site visits. Many of the users of orion are independent consultants, so it is not out of the question that a community web service for orion wouldn't fill the gap for orion support. I think one thing missing from the OrionSupport web site was this last bitsome paid service for support. Its also missing from the Ironflare. If you notice, you can buy the product...but even if you wanted to pay for extra support, they don't sell it. If you are reading this at Orion, please consider the McDonald's model. They had a good idea for a hamburger, but how do you put a restaurant on every corner? You franchise the hamburger restaurant idea. Why does'nt Ironflare "franchise" the support for Orion? This way they could continue to write great software, but others would pay them to give great support service for Orion. I have been trying to call these guys for a month now, with no success. So my question is... How do we take the next step? Regards, The elephantwalker -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 5:44 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: productive comment. David, nothing personal, I'm just hanging my reply off yours as it's the latest one in this thread...BUT some of us are very bored of this thread popping up every few weeks. Sure, Orion hasn't released a new version in a couple of months now (I think), and I'm as desperately eager for 1.4.8 as anyone here. Why does this always translate to 'Orion is tanking'? I know where you are coming from. I love orion. The problem I have is when I have to rationalize its use to others. Here's the most basic recommendation that I think would go a long way (believe it or not) UPDATE THE WEB SITE ONCE A WEEK include simple news...even just a paragraph or to. perhaps explaining latest updates (in betas). If you have no newsadd link to new clients/web sites...I'm sure ...this would take about 10 minutes a week and would go a long way in helping me convince people to buy it...believe it or not. I know it has no relevance on the quality of the product, but it would
