Re: Portra 160VC

2001-12-21 Thread Chris Gligoris

I have used it a a alot for photographing babies and children. I find that
It brings out their energy, better than any otehr negative film I've used.
(you can't shoot slide film anyway because the parents want prints...)


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> Hey guys...
>
> Does anyone else shoot this film? I love it. I've read the NC has better
skin tones but I'm not sure...
>
> I noticed it does well with falsh photography. Just fast enough. I used it
over Thanksgiving in my LX ;-)with the Pentax-A 28-135 f4 zoom (LX on AUTO,
lens at f5.6 - f8), Vivitar 283 flash ("hotrodded" with the metal mount + PC
socket and test button) mounted on Stroboframe.
>
> I found many of the pix were very, very sharp at 4 x 6. Color was
beautiful, "vivid" may be too strong a word. Perhaps compared to the NC
version, yes, but in general, probably not. But, that's just me.
>
> I've learned a local Photography class is tought using this film
exclusively for its color film.
>
> How do y'all like it?
>
> Brendan MacRae
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RE: test

2001-12-21 Thread Malcolm Smith

With three children under 7 years old, in which way is it not a test
(resolve, stamina etc.)?

Enjoy the festivities everyone - I'm hoping for snow.

Malcolm
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HAR!!
The same to you! :-)

Dan

>HAR!!
>Its not a test at all.
>It is a wish for all to have a most festive and joyous Christmas
>season, in whatever manner you choose to celebrate, or ignore
>it.
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Bye, Bye

2001-12-21 Thread Albano_Garcia

Hi, gang.
I'm leaving for vacation this afternoon. I'm going to Patagonia zone.
I hope to forget a bit about the horrible situation here in Buenos Aires,
and recover some peace in the beautifull Andes, Off course I'll take some
pictures with my lovely gear wich I hope to still own when I come back in
two weeks (the situation here is harsh).
Have a nice and sweet Christmas and a great and prosperous New Year.
I'm glad to be in this great bounch of people, also known as PDML.
Clear skies

Albano, heading south
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Re: test

2001-12-21 Thread Steve Larson

And to you Bill, may Santa bring you lots of goodies.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
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> HAR!!
> Its not a test at all.
> It is a wish for all to have a most festive and joyous Christmas
> season, in whatever manner you choose to celebrate, or ignore
> it.
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Re: Bought an S800, Printing tips and PS question?

2001-12-21 Thread David Brooks

Hi Paul.I print mostly from PhotoShop and images from
my D1.I resize from the input image of 18x27 to either
 8x12 etc then crop to what i'm looking for.So far 
this seems to work.Im not at my home computer now so
i can not remember what the drop down menus look like 
off hand but i;ll open up when i get home and see
what i have things set at.
I foumd the best looking print to be a resize to 5x7,my
D1 resolution goes up to about 264 i think.This gives a 
very nice looking print.

I hope you like it , i do.

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Subject: Bought an S800, Printing tips and PS question?


 Hi,

I just bought a Canon S800 and made my first print. I'm pretty 
impressed so
far.

Any tips on getting good prints? i noticed it was a little pixely in 
the
finely detailed sections.

Also I am printing out of photoshop 6 and when i go into print 
options if i
select the scale to be
100% then the image appears tiny on the page, i have to choose to 
scale to
fit media which in turn makes the image scale about  2000%. The image 
was
scanned in at 2400dpi, so if anything shouldn't i be down sizing the 
image?

Thanks,
Paul
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Re: Bought an S800, Printing tips and PS question?

2001-12-21 Thread David Brooks

Paul.Forgot to mention if i turn on the constrants at
the bottom of the image size window,i will get the pixelation
you speak of.I make sure the two boxes at the bottom are OFF
that way the size can change but the pixel ratios stay the same.
(You probably knew that anyway)

Dave

Any tips on getting good prints? i noticed it was a little pixely in 
the
finely detailed sections.




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Re: The Seasons

2001-12-21 Thread Albano_Garcia

Wow, thanks, Bob. I really appreciate that!
No doubt it was one of the worst years in my short life, including some
very hard things you don't know because they are very personal, but I'm
also happy with myself for still being able to try to be happy, to have
good friends, to have a work and off course to be in this great thing
called PDML. I never stop amazing by the support and friendship received
here. This list has grown inside me, and now is very important in my daily
life, a good relief and source of knowledge and inspiration.
THANKS EVERYBODY

Also, I want to wish the best to the other argentinians here, Martin Truco,
Martin Corro, Luis Pinar, and Juan Buhler, who is living in the states.

Regards
Felices Fiestas!!

Albano


///


Bob Rapp wrote:
Hi all,
The seasons are upon us again. As I have been through 58, I can
appreciate all that each new year brings. It is a time for us to reflect on
where we have been and where we would like to go.
For some, their destiny is not governed by them and must persevere. To
those and all of us, each day is what we make of it.
We all have a special friend in Argentina who has been through a lot
this year. Yet, he has rebounded and come back better than ever. Thank you
Albano - I would like to meet and host you one day.
For the rest, Happy holidays and may the new year bring you happiness
and good luck. But, you will have a lot to do with it.
Regards,
Bob Rapp {:~)
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Re: Bye, Bye

2001-12-21 Thread Dan Scott

Have a great trip, Albano. Good weather and good light.
May you and your country recover quickly. Peace.

Dan Scott
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>Hi, gang.
>I'm leaving for vacation this afternoon. I'm going to Patagonia zone.
>I hope to forget a bit about the horrible situation here in Buenos Aires,
>and recover some peace in the beautifull Andes, Off course I'll take some
>pictures with my lovely gear wich I hope to still own when I come back in
>two weeks (the situation here is harsh).
>Have a nice and sweet Christmas and a great and prosperous New Year.
>I'm glad to be in this great bounch of people, also known as PDML.
>Clear skies
>
>Albano, heading south
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Re: The Seasons

2001-12-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola

Youngster!

Bob Rapp wrote:

> Hi all,
> The seasons are upon us again. As I have been through 58, I can
> appreciate all that each new year brings. It is a time for us to reflect on
> where we have been and where we would like to go.
>

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Re: Bought an S800, Printing tips and PS question?

2001-12-21 Thread Cotty

>Also I am printing out of photoshop 6 and when i go into print options if i
>select the scale to be
>100% then the image appears tiny on the page, i have to choose to scale to
>fit media which in turn makes the image scale about  2000%. The image was
>scanned in at 2400dpi, so if anything shouldn't i be down sizing the image?

Paul,

Go into 'IMAGE' and in the dpi box, enter something like 300 (dpi). 
Select a relevant physical size, say 8 inches by 11 or whatever, and 
Photoshop will resize the image for you to a decent physical size, and 
decent file size ready for printing. While you're at it, find 
IMAGE/LEVELS and hit the AUTO button and then enter. That'll smarten it 
up a bit for you. *Now* try printing.

Next step: buy a decent Photoshop book and get reading!

HTH

Cotty

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Re: Technical question about the list

2001-12-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

(Gee, I get too busy to read the list for a few days and folks
start talking about two cameras I really love -- the KX and 
the H3...)

Levente -Levi- Littvay suggested:
> What does everyone think about adding a [pentax] to the subject
> of each letter so it is easier to filter (both with machine and both by
> eyeballing the mailbox)

I am opposed to this, but not vehemently so.

Subject lines get kind of long, and when I'm eyeball-filtering
this list I do so by subject.  Sticking "[pentax]" or "[pdml]"
on the front of each subject header means taking away that many
characters from the number displayed in the width of my telnet
window, which would make an existing problem worse for me.

Filtering through software is already pretty easy -- I'm already
sorting each mailing list I'm on into a separate file so that I
can just concentrate on personal mail when I'm too busy for the
lists.  (I've got crude spam filtering in place as well, which 
I need to refine.)  

(Also, personally, I find it's still easy to overlook personal
messages in a forest of list mail jumbled into one mailbox, even
if list-prefixes are used on the subject headers.  It helps more
when the tags are on the few messages I'm looking for -- i.e. with
a low-traffic mailing list in a high-traffic personal mailbox -- 
rather than the other way 'round.)

So for me there'd be no gain and a small but noticeable downside.


As for why my opposition is mild:  well it _would_ be a pretty
trivial thing to implement, other folks might be seeing more of
the subject lines than I do and thus have less reason to complain,
and some people probably don't have the means to sort/filter 
their email automagically (and thus need the "eyeball filter" help).
But note that a personal reply to a mailing list message will wind
up grouped with the list messages if you sort only on a tag in the
subject line.




That's the important part of my message -- if all you want is my
opinion, skip the rest.  Now comes some info on sorting list
mail for folks who have that capability but haven't explored it
yet.

Each message arrives with a whole pile o' headers, many of which
your mail reader may not bother to show you (especially if you've
specifically told it not to.)  The very first line of a message
(and how to spot the start of a new message in an ASCII mailbox)
begins with "From ".  There's another from-header further down
which has a colon on it -- "From: ".  The second one will show
the sender of the message.  The first one (if your mail filtering
rules allow you to sort on it) will say

From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Sun Dec  2 04:43:40 2001

(with the date changing from message to message, of course).  
Other useful headers for sorting PDML messages into their own
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Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

and, of course:

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

But watch out for using that last one -- the list address could
show up in the "Cc:" header instead of "To:" (some filtering
programs will combine the two for the purpose of a filtering
rule), if someone uses BCC to send a message to the list then
the list address will not show up in either "To:" or "Cc:".

Anyhow, if you have the ability to sort your mail, you probably
have the ability to sort out the PDML messages without needing
a list-tag on the subject line.  (Yes, I do acknowledge that
some filtering systems are incredibly primitive -- I hope those
are a small minority.)


(Wow ... glad this came up, actually.  Made me take a look at
my filter rules, which include some for when the list was hosted
elsewhere, and then I looked at my Procmail log file and realized
it was 29M because I'd forgotten to clear it out since April 2000.
Whoops!)

-- Glenn
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Re: test

2001-12-21 Thread Paul Stenquist

And the same to you Mr. Bill. Judging by the time of your post, I'll bet
you were inspired by a spirit of Christmas :-)
Paul

William Robb wrote:
> 
> HAR!!
> Its not a test at all.
> It is a wish for all to have a most festive and joyous Christmas
> season, in whatever manner you choose to celebrate, or ignore
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Re: Bought an S800, Printing tips and PS question?

2001-12-21 Thread Paul Stenquist

A 2400 dpi scan of a 35mm frame should give you a 7x10 of around 300
dpi. That should be hi-res enough to produce a nice print with no
visible pixelation. In adjusting the size of your print in Photoshop,
you have to make sure the box to "resample image" is not checked. This
will preserve the original scan.  I don't know anything about the Canon
printer, but make sure your choosing the high res setting. It''s
probably 1440.

Paul Jones wrote:
> 
>  Hi,
> 
> I just bought a Canon S800 and made my first print. I'm pretty impressed so
> far.
> 
> Any tips on getting good prints? i noticed it was a little pixely in the
> finely detailed sections.
> 
> Also I am printing out of photoshop 6 and when i go into print options if i
> select the scale to be
> 100% then the image appears tiny on the page, i have to choose to scale to
> fit media which in turn makes the image scale about  2000%. The image was
> scanned in at 2400dpi, so if anything shouldn't i be down sizing the image?
> 
> Thanks,
> Paul
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RE: Which Printer to Buy?

2001-12-21 Thread Kent Gittings

They may have 6 colors but only the BJC-8200 and S-800 have six tanks that
can actively use them at one time. Most or all of the rest usually require
either a separate 4 color photo cartridge (older Canons and HPs for sure and
probably the rest also) or the replacement of 2 or 3 of the 4 tank models
with photo ink cartridges.
Kent Gittings

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I think all the PHOTO printers have six colors, either standard or as an
option.

Ciao,
graywolf



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> S800 has 6 ink tanks instead of 4 so it can have the regular and 2 photo
ink
> cartridges in and in use at the same time. It should increase the range of
> reproducible colors. It has the same ink tank arrangement as the
> discontinued BJC-8200 which I think at least one user on this list has.
> Kent Gittings
>
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Jones
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 5:28 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Which Printer to Buy?
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Have the results come in from the PDML printer showdown? maybe i just
missed
> them.
>
> I'm proably going to buy an Inkjet this weekend. The ones i'm looking at
are
> a Canon S600, Canon S800 and Epson 980. Is there other I should be looking
> at? Has any one got any opinions on these?
>
> As yet i'm unable to see any real difference between the S600 and S800
> except for speed.
>
> The 980 is an A4 version of the 1270 or 1280 isnt it?
>
> I dont need a printer that prints more than A4 size as my scanner wont
scan
> at a high enough res to go that big.
>
> Any comments appreciated.
>
> Have the results come in from the PDML printer showdown? maybe i just
missed
> them.
>
> Thanks,
> Paul Jones
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RE: Car Show Photo Suggestions ...

2001-12-21 Thread Kent Gittings

Having done that show for several years you need to try and work your way
around to eliminate the light reflection point coming off the car. Unless
you want to do more of an art print and use a 4 or 6 point star filter.
Kent Gittings

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On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 11:00:35 +1100, Kevin Waterson wrote:

> > make sure your exposures are very close to ambient. The flash will help
> > clean up the color, but you'll have some ugly highlights in glass and
chrome.
>
> What if an off camera flash was used so that you had the light coming in
at
> 45 degrees, have a friend hold the flash or if you have room, use a
tripod.

You'll still get nasty reflections in many cases, they'll just be in a
different spot on the car. :-)

TTYL, DougF
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RE: OT - Voigtlander Bessa L&R (but I mention ME Super)

2001-12-21 Thread Kent Gittings

Even if the camera uses separate viewfinders like early Leicas it's still a
rangefinder camera.
Kent Gittings

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Frank, I own the Bessa L (no rangefinder/needs an lens-specific viewfinder)
with the Snapshot Skopar 25mm f4.  True, the body is plasticky, but the lens
is worth the price of the whole kit.  I'll get the 15mm eventually.  In
terms of shutter noise, I don't think the camera was ever intended on being
Leica-like, only Leica-ready.  My ME Super is probably as quiet, maybe more
so.  But it is a funky camera, good for a conversation whenever it goes out,
and not "threatening" as an SLR might be (as it is just plain goofy looking
to the general population).

I got mine from B&H when they were having a "special", selling them for
US$129.00 (body only).

Best regards,

Chris


Frank thanked the respondents:

Thanks for your responses.  I surfed around the web a bit last night, and
much of what you three said was confirmed in various reviews.

Turns out the body's plastic (a camera shop selling them steered me wrong).
They also seem to have variable quality from sample to sample, as some have
found them quite noisy for a rangefinder, while others haven't.

And the lenses have been almost universally praised (plus, I guess, you can
stick old Leica screwmounts on them if you want/can afford to).
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RE: Car Show Photo Suggestions ...

2001-12-21 Thread Kent Gittings

>From memory the DC convention center uses overhead sodium, mercury or
halogen reflector lights suspended from the ceiling. However many of the
booth areas add their own light which can often be small halogen or
fluorescent.
Kent Gittings

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It would be very uneven lighting. You'd have to have two flashes, and
you'd still have some nasty reflections, Your best bet is to use the
lighting in the show area and adjust your filtration accordingly. If you
check with some local photographers who regularly shoot in that
exhibition hall, they can probably advise you as to the color temp of
the lights. The pr person at the facility might also be able to provide
this info.
Paul

Kevin Waterson wrote:
>
> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>
> > make sure your exposures are very close to ambient. The flash will help
> > clean up the color, but you'll have some ugly highlights in glass and
chrome.
>
> What if an off camera flash was used so that you had the light coming in
at
> 45 degrees, have a friend hold the flash or if you have room, use a
tripod.
>
> How would this arrangement work?
>
>car_here
>
> flash camera
>
> Kind regards
> Kevin
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Re: Bought an S800, Printing tips and PS question?

2001-12-21 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Friday, December 21, 2001, at 06:46  AM, Paul Jones wrote:

> Any tips on getting good prints? i noticed it was a little pixely in the
> finely detailed sections.
>
> Also I am printing out of photoshop 6 and when i go into print options 
> if i
> select the scale to be
> 100% then the image appears tiny on the page, i have to choose to scale 
> to
> fit media which in turn makes the image scale about  2000%. The image 
> was
> scanned in at 2400dpi, so if anything shouldn't i be down sizing the 
> image?

How big are you trying to print?  And what is the optical resolution of 
the scanner?  And what is the size of the original?

If your scanner is 1200 dpi optical/2400 dpi interpolated, that 2400 dpi 
is good for maybe a 5x7.

Go to image --> image size.  Check the box that says 'constrain 
proportions'.  Uncheck the box that says 'resample image'.  Change the 
resolution to 300 pixels per inch and then look at what it says the size 
of the print will be...that's what you scanned.  You can get away with 
lower than 300 ppi, but you'll see pixelation and loss of detail.

-Aaron

p.s. good luck
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Vs: OT - Voigtlander Bessa R

2001-12-21 Thread Raimo Korhonen

The "body" is not plastic - chassis is aluminium alloy, only outer panels are plastic. 
More metal that current Pentaxes have, except MZ-S I suppose. The noise is not bad 
IMHO.
All the best!
Raimo
Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen

-Alkuperäinen viesti-
Lähettäjä: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Päivä: 21. joulukuuta 2001 0:47
Aihe: Re: OT - Voigtlander Bessa R


>Hi, tom, Bob and Paul,
>

>Turns out the body's plastic (a camera shop selling them steered me wrong).
>They also seem to have variable quality from sample to sample, as some have
>found them quite noisy for a rangefinder, while others haven't.

>regards,
>frank
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Re: Portra 160VC

2001-12-21 Thread Tim S Kemp

"I have used it a a alot for photographing babies and children. I find that
It brings out their energy, better than any otehr negative film I've used.
(you can't shoot slide film anyway because the parents want prints...)"

I'll agree with you there, it's so fine and vibrant yet skintones are
natural. It's in my camera case...
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Re: Pop Photo Winners

2001-12-21 Thread Michael Nosal

At 06:39 PM 12/20/01 -0800, you wrote:
>Well, now, amazing as it must seem, the grand prize winner in popular
>photograpy's annual contest is a pentax user.  I personally can't stand this
>type of overmanipulated montage but someone must enjoy it. Anyone on the
>list have an opinion on this picture?

This is not what I would call a photograph - the end result is so far
removed from "photography". A montage, a collage, etc. but no longer a
photograph. I also don't find it particularly interesting. Last year's grand
prize winner was another over-manipulated digital collage. Bleah.

>What about the glamour first prize winner?  What is this, james bond 
>circa 1974?  

If I see one more composition with chrome spheres in a flat sea from Bryce
(or similar program), I'm gonna barf. 

>
>On the other hand, the candid/humor winner is really piglishes and the
>photojournalism winner, the world beaten faces of those girls is just right.
>I won't even get into what is written on that pole!  

I think the cheerleaders should have been the grand prize winner. Excellent
photojournalism. 

--Mike Nosal
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Re: The Seasons

2001-12-21 Thread Otis Wright, Jr.

Nicely said  and a hearty second for the Jersey Shore.

Happiness,  Good Health and the Best of Success to all.

Otis Wright

Bob Rapp wrote:

> Hi all,
> The seasons are upon us again. As I have been through 58, I can
> appreciate all that each new year brings. It is a time for us to reflect on
> where we have been and where we would like to go.
> For some, their destiny is not governed by them and must persevere. To
> those and all of us, each day is what we make of it.
> We all have a special friend in Argentina who has been through a lot
> this year. Yet, he has rebounded and come back better than ever. Thank you
> Albano - I would like to meet and host you one day.
> For the rest, Happy holidays and may the new year bring you happiness
> and good luck. But, you will have a lot to do with it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bob Rapp {:~)
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Re: Bye, Bye

2001-12-21 Thread tom

I'm just glad to hear you're ok, and in good enough condition to be able
to take a vacation.

Good luck to you and our other Argentinean memebers.

tv

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> Hi, gang.
> I'm leaving for vacation this afternoon. I'm going to Patagonia zone.
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Re: Portra 160VC

2001-12-21 Thread tom

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Hey guys...
> 
> Does anyone else shoot this film? I love it. I've read the NC has better skin tones 
>but I'm not sure...

I am. VC is a great film, and 160 is probably my favorite coor neg film,
but NC spanks it for skintones.

tv
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Re: My wife just doesn't understand...

2001-12-21 Thread tom

"Weist, Jeff" wrote:
> 
> ...but I know the list will when I brag about my new lenses.   I finally
> traded in my crappy old 80's era zoom lenses and picked up some SMC primes
> here locally (Denver) that I had be eyeing for awhile, to wit:
> 
> M 24 2.8
> M 50 1.4
> K 100 2.8
> K 135 2.8

Very cool!

tv
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Re: Mir 47-K 20 mm. 2.5 user's manual?

2001-12-21 Thread tom

Kristian Walsh wrote:
> 
> 
> There was no manual with my 43 limited, but then what do you need? "turn
> focussing ring clockwise or anti-clockwise until viewfinder image
> appears sharp"? ;-)

It *would* be neat if they included something explaining the thoughts
behind the Limited focal lengths...

tv
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Re: Portra 160VC

2001-12-21 Thread Bmacrae

Thanks tv,

I will have to shoot some back to back in test portraits and check the difference. 

I must say though that I can't remember feeling that my last roll had less than 
perfect skin tones. In fact, I took a couple of shots of an older gentleman who has 
blotchy skin and the VC didn't pick this up. Not bad...

Kodak pushes the fact that the entire Portra line can be used interchageably. Well, 
we'll see...

Brendan

Brendan
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Re: Pop Photo Winners

2001-12-21 Thread Bmacrae

Dave,

I second that motion...

Brendan
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Re: Portra 160VC

2001-12-21 Thread Michael Perham

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Hey guys...
>
>Does anyone else shoot this film? I love it. I've read the NC has better skin tones 
>but I'm not sure...
>
I just shot a whole lot of NC, all with my MZ-S and AF360 flash.  I was 
amazed at how well the combination worked in a wide variety of lighting. 
 First the MZ-S and AF360 with the pre flash gave me superb exposures. 
 In subdued lighting of a restaurant, faces and light tones were not 
blown out as is sometimes the case when the TTL exposure averages the 
frame.  The matrix metering of the pre flash worked 100% of the time. 
 Most impressive were the photos taken on stage of Nutcracker dancers 
after the curtain came down.  The full stage lighting was still on and 
again the metering mixed these superbly and the Portra 160 NC was sharp 
and perfect skin tones, albeit with some stage lighting providing some 
highlights.  I had many compliments on the "great colour"  and even some 
shots of the dancers in the hall behind the stage, under neon, were 
great.  No green!!

For landscape and flowers, etc. I would use the VC  except that I always 
shoot that with Velvia or E100 extra colour.  I think if I owned a 
scanner I may switch to the Portra VC because of the wider exposure 
latitude and I would prefer the vivid colour for those subjects.

Cheers,  Mike.
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Re: Portra 160VC

2001-12-21 Thread tom

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Thanks tv,
> 
> I will have to shoot some back to back in test portraits and check the difference.
> 
> I must say though that I can't remember feeling that my last roll had less than 
>perfect skin tones. In fact, I took a couple of shots of an older gentleman who has 
>blotchy skin and the VC didn't pick this up. Not bad...

It's not bad, it's just not as good as NC. VC will often punch up the
redness in people's skin, NC almost always looks about perfect. VC looks
ok with flash, but if there's a light source with any color in it, it'll
accentuate it. 

OTOH, NC isn't good for much else, while VC serves an an excellent
all-around film...

> 
> Kodak pushes the fact that the entire Portra line can be used interchageably. Well, 
>we'll see...

You can take this one with a grain of salt.

tv
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Re: Got a free A50/1.4

2001-12-21 Thread Tim Engel

21 Dec 01, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "Tim Engel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Last spring I bought a sad little ME Super & lens on ebay for
> > US$50.   (Snip)...  That's how I came by my second f1.2.
> >
> > Hate me if you must, but I could do without it.
>
> OK. I'll trade you for the 50/1.4...


Mark,

:-)   Thanks for your generous offer,  but no thanks.   I'll keep the lens.
"I could do without it" referred to the hate  (I know it's tongue-in-cheek),
and I'll be keeping the lens.

Happy Holidays
Tim Engel
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asahi pentax spotmatic

2001-12-21 Thread Varkey

Hello everybody,
I am an engineering student and an amateur photographer.  I have been using an old 
asahi 
spotmatic for a while now, and finally have managed to collect most of the money I 
need to buy 
a pentax zx-5n.  I am ready to let go of the spotmatic I have been using, and I was 
wondering if 
any of you would like to have it as a collector's item.  It works just fine, though I 
am extremely 
doubtful of the honesty of the lightmeter. And there are some scratches on the bottom 
of the 
body, previous owners have scribbled their names.  It doesn't affect the functioning 
of the 
camera, but I think it adds character.  This camera has been in the hands of 
photographers for 
more than a decade or two, helping them capture moments and memories, the scribbles 
bear 
testimony.
Please let me know.
thanks
prashanth varkey
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Re: Portra 160VC

2001-12-21 Thread Bmacrae

Mike...

Thank you for your input. 

In fact, thak you all for your comments. I think Kodak has a real winner in the 160 
Portra.

I have now finally decided on my all around color (colour) print film. What a relief...

Now, if I can only decide between Kodachrome 64 and E100V...

;-0...

Brendan
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Re: Bye, Bye

2001-12-21 Thread Bruce Dayton

Albano,

Wishing you a wonderful holiday season.  My thoughts are with you
during this very difficult time you are experiencing.  I hope that
things improve there quickly and that this change will bring about
eventual peace and prosperity.

May the spirit of the season prevail and be upon you and your
countrymen.


Bruce Dayton



Friday, December 21, 2001, 4:22:48 AM, you wrote:

Avca> Hi, gang.
Avca> I'm leaving for vacation this afternoon. I'm going to Patagonia zone.
Avca> I hope to forget a bit about the horrible situation here in Buenos Aires,
Avca> and recover some peace in the beautifull Andes, Off course I'll take some
Avca> pictures with my lovely gear wich I hope to still own when I come back in
Avca> two weeks (the situation here is harsh).
Avca> Have a nice and sweet Christmas and a great and prosperous New Year.
Avca> I'm glad to be in this great bounch of people, also known as PDML.
Avca> Clear skies

Avca> Albano, heading south
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Re: Bye, Bye

2001-12-21 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Albano - keep taking lovely photos - the mountains will
help the spirit, I know, and focusing on them, literally,
will 
too.  

annsan



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> 
> Hi, gang.
> I'm leaving for vacation this afternoon. I'm going to Patagonia zone.
> I hope to forget a bit about the horrible situation here in Buenos Aires,
> and recover some peace in the beautifull Andes, Off course I'll take some
> pictures with my lovely gear wich I hope to still own when I come back in
> two weeks (the situation here is harsh).
> Have a nice and sweet Christmas and a great and prosperous New Year.
> I'm glad to be in this great bounch of people, also known as PDML.
> Clear skies
> 
> Albano, heading south
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Re: Bye, Bye

2001-12-21 Thread Bmacrae

Al,

good luck, god's speed...

Brendan
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Photographic moments.

2001-12-21 Thread Matamoros, Cesar A.

I figure it is time to take a break from my idyllic and leisurely
vacation and relate, to people who will appreciate it, my time at B&H on
Wednesday.

Since I was in the neighborhood I figured it would not hurt to stop
in and look around.  I instantly went up to the used department.  I looked
at an LX winder, but it did not seem to be working properly.  They would
look into it. They did not like the way it sounded and stated that since
they had no camera to check it with it was on the shelf.

While there I decided to see if they had any 24mm lenses.  The
widest I currently have is 28mm.  I wanted to see if it would be worth even
considering the FA 24/2.  They had an A 24 f2.8.  I placed in on my LX to
check it out.  The clerk started talking about the LX and what a wonderful
camera it is - sorry Cotty no wink from him ;-)  And when I pulled out the
MZ-S with the Limited. He had to check it out.  He was most impressed with
the size (the BG-10 grip was attached) and the feel of the camera.  He used
to have an MX and we chatted for a while about Pentax optics and the fact
that he does not see many Pentax lenses come through there.  Well, fifteen
minutes later I had acquired the 24mm and a set of Pentax extension tubes.
I have never used tubes but figured why not try them.  An early Christmas
present to myself.  And a nice time with a Pentax appreciater who does not
have enough time to go out and shoot.

I went downstairs to the main floor to look at lens cases for a
friend and since I ended up in front of the Pentax display and it was kind
of slow in there why not ask to look at the FA 24?  I checked it out on the
MZ-S.  I am not sure I like the dual action of going to MF with both the
lens and camera, but that is another story.

Another clerk looked over and asked if I liked my 77 Limited lens.
It ends up that he has the 31, 43, and 77.  So naturally we began talking
about photography and cameras.  He asked other clerks if they had had the
opportunity to try out a Limited lens or the MZ-S.  During the talking the
LX came up.  I pulled mine out and he truly enjoyed the brassing on the
camera.  He said it was a testimony to the quality of the camera.  To make a
long story short, in the span of the next fifteen minutes we ended up with
about four to six people checking out the MZ-S and LX.  Many had not handled
an LX.  One person used to have on and ended up getting a Nikon N60
something-or-other.  Once he handled my LX he stated that he regrets getting
rid of it.  One clerk was doing a pretty good job of enablement :-)  There
was talk of mechanical shutter speeds, durability, sealing, detachable
prisms, viewing screens, grips, etc.  He asked if I had gotten the LX-2000
or new one from Japan.  I told him with three and a fourth LX on the way the
interest was not there.

A truly enjoyable time there.  There was so much spoken about and
comparisons made, but you get the picture.  We even talked of digital and
lens compatibility of Pentax.  They said I need to come back and they will
set me up with more lenses.  One clerk mentioned that once I tried the 31 I
would be hooked.  It was nice being able to try out lenses readily.  Though
I must admit that if ever I get these lenses I will go through my local
store.  The difference in price is worth it with the attention and
camaraderie I get at my store.

Just wanted to let someone know, Pentax is appreciated out there,

César Matamoros II
Panama City, Florida
in New York City

P.S.  The p&s counter was quiet the whole time I was there.  Only the 'pros'
were out that early :-)
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Re: K2 DMD without flashsync

2001-12-21 Thread Anders Werholt

Hi again,

Thanks for all your answers.
I'm sure that the K2 DMD is a great camera, but decided not to buy it. I was
a bit doubtful about the body condition, and I already have the SMCM
100/2.8. Instead I found a nice MX + a SMC 35/3.5 for about 100 USD. It will
be a fine complement to my KX and my Me Super.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you all.

Anders Werholt

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 5:49 PM
Subject: K2 DMD without flashsync


> Hi all,
>
> I have found a K2 DMD in good condition, except that the flash-sync does
not
> work. I think the seller is asking a reasonably price (about 240 USD,
> including SMCM 35/2 and SMCM 100/2.8, both in good condition). This body
is
> not found so often, at least not where I live.
> The problem is the flash-sync. This is not easily fixed, or am I wrong?
The
> problem is probably shutter-related, and rather expensive to fix (if
possible
> at all).
> Any advices?
>
> Best regards
> Anders Werholt
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A, K , F , FA

2001-12-21 Thread Christien Bunting

What are the differences between these various lenses ?


I'm looking at a used Pentax 400mm A  F/5.6 for 549usd. Is this a good
buy ? I already have :

50mm F/2
35-80mm F/4-5.6
70-210mm F/3.9
28-105mm F/2.8 - 3.8

I'm looking at the 400mm for nature shots. I dont have an AF body. I'm
thinking of getting the 1.4 teleconverter also sometime in the near
future. I do have a Vivitar x2 btw.

Thanks
Chris
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Re: Bought an S800, Printing tips and PS question?

2001-12-21 Thread Paul Jones

Hi,

Thanks for help guys, one more questions though. When i resize it to say
300dpi, should i still tick the 'Scale to Media' box when i print? or should
i adjust the dpi before hand to match the size i want?

Thanks,
Paul
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From: "Aaron Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: Bought an S800, Printing tips and PS question?


> On Friday, December 21, 2001, at 06:46  AM, Paul Jones wrote:
>
> > Any tips on getting good prints? i noticed it was a little pixely in the
> > finely detailed sections.
> >
> > Also I am printing out of photoshop 6 and when i go into print options
> > if i
> > select the scale to be
> > 100% then the image appears tiny on the page, i have to choose to scale
> > to
> > fit media which in turn makes the image scale about  2000%. The image
> > was
> > scanned in at 2400dpi, so if anything shouldn't i be down sizing the
> > image?
>
> How big are you trying to print?  And what is the optical resolution of
> the scanner?  And what is the size of the original?
>
> If your scanner is 1200 dpi optical/2400 dpi interpolated, that 2400 dpi
> is good for maybe a 5x7.
>
> Go to image --> image size.  Check the box that says 'constrain
> proportions'.  Uncheck the box that says 'resample image'.  Change the
> resolution to 300 pixels per inch and then look at what it says the size
> of the print will be...that's what you scanned.  You can get away with
> lower than 300 ppi, but you'll see pixelation and loss of detail.
>
> -Aaron
>
> p.s. good luck
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Re: A, K , F , FA

2001-12-21 Thread Bob Walkden

Hi,

I used to have a 400mm A f/5.6 lens. I paid about that price for it
just about 4 years ago, in mint condition. I used it quite a lot - I
was rather surprised by how much. In particular, I used it to
photograph wildlife in South Africa, frequently with a T6-2X extender
and later with an A2X-L extender. These extenders are very well
matched to the lens. I tried it with a cheaper extender and the
results were poor and it was very difficult to use because of the
darkening of the viewfinder. I was using it with LXs and found that
the sports/action finder was of enormous benefit when using the lens
with extenders.

The lens letters you quote mean this:

K - manual focus without a switch for automatic aperture setting
A - manual focus with a switch for automatic aperture setting, so you
can use a camera with shutter priority or full program AE mode.
F - autofocus (includes the A capability as above)
FA - same as F. Later version. I don't know the differences (not an AF man).

There is also the M series which comes between the K and A series.
They are essentially compact versions of the K lenses.

---

 Bob  

Friday, December 21, 2001, 11:38:53 AM, you wrote:

> What are the differences between these various lenses ?


> I'm looking at a used Pentax 400mm A  F/5.6 for 549usd. Is this a good
> buy ? I already have :

> 50mm F/2
> 35-80mm F/4-5.6
> 70-210mm F/3.9
> 28-105mm F/2.8 - 3.8

> I'm looking at the 400mm for nature shots. I dont have an AF body. I'm
> thinking of getting the 1.4 teleconverter also sometime in the near
> future. I do have a Vivitar x2 btw.

> Thanks
> Chris
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Re: Bought an S800, Printing tips and PS question?

2001-12-21 Thread Paul Jones

Hi Cotty,

Thanks for the help.

> Go into 'IMAGE' and in the dpi box, enter something like 300 (dpi).
> Select a relevant physical size, say 8 inches by 11 or whatever, and
> Photoshop will resize the image for you to a decent physical size, and
> decent file size ready for printing.

Okay so if i enter then image size for a 5x7 then i get 497.6pixels and
theni should be able to print at 100%

> While you're at it, find
> IMAGE/LEVELS and hit the AUTO button and then enter. That'll smarten it
> up a bit for you. *Now* try printing.

I can never get Auto Levels to do what i want, i find i get better results
when i set them manually.

Thanks,
Paul
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Kudos to KEH

2001-12-21 Thread Paul Stenquist

Some of you may recall that I was looking for a "first lens" for that
6x7 that I swiped in an auction last week. Impatient as I am, I soon
gave up on finding something I wanted on ebay and turned to my standby,
KEH. Well they offered a 150/2.8 for $285, which is below the "buy it
now" price of a current ebay offering. (And since it's approximately the
equivalent of an 85 in 35mm speak, and considering that portraits of
beautiful women are my current passion, it was a good place to start.)
So I figured, not bad. Let's do it. I ordered it Wednesday night and
stipulated UPS two-day air delivery, assuming that would get it here
Monday and give me some time to play with it over the holidays.
Yesterday I got a notice from UPS indicating that it had been shipped
via ground and would be delivered on Thursday, the 27th. Major bummer.
So I called KEH and whined. They called UPS and discovered that it was
mishandled in the KEH shipping department. Then, KEH called me and told
me they were sending another lens of the same grade via overnight so
that it would be delivered on Monday. They said I could use this lens
until the other arrived, then decide which one I wanted to keep and send
the other one back! They're good. I love them. 
Paul
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Re: Bye, Bye

2001-12-21 Thread Carlos Royo

Hi Albano:
I hope you have a wonderful vacation in the Patagonia, and when you
return to Buenos Aires, everything is in the right track to a better
situation, both economically and politically.
Best wishes,

--
Carlos Royo
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Zaragoza (Aragon) - Spain
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Re: Bought an S800, Printing tips and PS question?

2001-12-21 Thread Paul Stenquist

Paul Jones wrote:
> 
>
> 
> Okay so if i enter then image size for a 5x7 then i get 497.6pixels and
> theni should be able to print at 100%

Yep, 497 ppi will give you a nice image. If your scan is that high res,
you can go to about 8x10 as well where you'll be at around 300, but
don't allow Photoshop to resample. In the image size box make sure
contrain proportions is checked and that resample image is not checked.
> 
> > While you're at it, find
> > IMAGE/LEVELS and hit the AUTO button and then enter. That'll smarten it
> > up a bit for you. *Now* try printing.
> 
> I can never get Auto Levels to do what i want, i find i get better results
> when i set them manually.

I agree. That's frequently the case, although I usually let auto levels
have a go at it, then, if it degrades the image, I just undo it and go
back and do levels myself. Auto levels seems to work best on
conventional pictures, such as landscapes with neutral foregrounds and
blue sky backgrounds. But sometimes it can be a good starting point..
Auto levels first, manual manipulation next.  
> 
> Thanks,
> Paul
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In Defense of Pentax Junkies [was: 85mm vs 77mm, and 43mm]

2001-12-21 Thread Fred

It seems as if we Pentax junkies have been getting criticized lately
by the "working photographers" and the "true" photographers (i.e.,
the "dedicated", "serious", "true" image-makers, as opposed to us
rather pathetic Pentax equipment lovers), simply because we like to
discuss the details of the various pieces of Pentax "stuff" that's
out there.

Well, I don't want to criticize the "serious" image-makers who
either may simply want to just get the "damned job" done, or instead
may want to dwell upon all the subtle ins and outs of photographic
images (and may the equipment be damned, full lens-speed ahead).
They are certainly more than welcome here on the PDML (even though
discussions on images, film, processing, printing, manipulation,
etc., can be carried on on ~any~ photographic forum, since they are
not Pentax-specific).

However, I would just like to point out that this ~is~ the ~PENTAX~
Discussion Mailing List, and therefore that this is the ~most~
proper place for us to discuss all the various and sundry nuances,
trivia, and minutia of all the various weapons in the Pentax arsenal
(or toys in the Pentax toybox), even if we do it "ad nauseam" (i.e.,
"enough to make a working photographer puke").

So, now can we get a discussion going on the serial numbers of the
early and late models of the M 50/2, and their effect on handling,
cosmetic appearance, focus feel, looks, weight, balance, and bokeh?


Fred
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Re: K2 DMD without flashsync

2001-12-21 Thread BobAggi

In a message dated 12/21/01 3:09:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

> Instead I found a nice MX + a SMC 35/3.5 for about 100 USD. It will
>  be a fine complement to my KX and my Me Super.

Hello Anders,
I think you made a good choice -  the MX over the K2DMD.  If you ever come 
across an MX motor drive, don't let it get away!  It's very fast - 5 fps at 
maximum - and the user can vary the speed up to the max..  It also allows 
burst mode whereby by the user dials in a predefined number of frames.  When 
you choose continuous over single shot and you hold the shutter release down, 
the camera will expose the number of frames you preselected and then stop.  
This prevents exposing more film than you wanted to in an action situation.  
If you can also find the MX NiCd pack and charger, you'll be pleasantly 
surprised to find a shutter release button on the pack.  Great for 
horizontals, but unfortunately, it's operated by the thumb.  

Enjoy your MX, and Merry Christmas,

Bob
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Re: Bought an S800, Printing tips and PS question?

2001-12-21 Thread Paul Stenquist

There is only one good way to resize. Do it in PhotoShop (or another
editing program), and don't allow the program to resample. In other
words, as the size of your print gets bigger, the ppi gets smaller. You
can get a good print at 300 ppi, but more is okay. I've made some 7x10s
at 550 ppi that were rather impressive. Don't resize to 300 ppi. Take
your scan and resize it to a dimension and let the ppi level fall where
it will. If it's below 300, choose a smaller dimension for the print.
Paul

Paul Jones wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Thanks for help guys, one more questions though. When i resize it to say
> 300dpi, should i still tick the 'Scale to Media' box when i print? or should
> i adjust the dpi before hand to match the size i want?
> 
> Thanks,
> Paul
> - Original Message -
> From: "Aaron Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 12:58 AM
> Subject: Re: Bought an S800, Printing tips and PS question?
> 
> > On Friday, December 21, 2001, at 06:46  AM, Paul Jones wrote:
> >
> > > Any tips on getting good prints? i noticed it was a little pixely in the
> > > finely detailed sections.
> > >
> > > Also I am printing out of photoshop 6 and when i go into print options
> > > if i
> > > select the scale to be
> > > 100% then the image appears tiny on the page, i have to choose to scale
> > > to
> > > fit media which in turn makes the image scale about  2000%. The image
> > > was
> > > scanned in at 2400dpi, so if anything shouldn't i be down sizing the
> > > image?
> >
> > How big are you trying to print?  And what is the optical resolution of
> > the scanner?  And what is the size of the original?
> >
> > If your scanner is 1200 dpi optical/2400 dpi interpolated, that 2400 dpi
> > is good for maybe a 5x7.
> >
> > Go to image --> image size.  Check the box that says 'constrain
> > proportions'.  Uncheck the box that says 'resample image'.  Change the
> > resolution to 300 pixels per inch and then look at what it says the size
> > of the print will be...that's what you scanned.  You can get away with
> > lower than 300 ppi, but you'll see pixelation and loss of detail.
> >
> > -Aaron
> >
> > p.s. good luck
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MX v LX(owner MX 20+ years and LX just a few days)

2001-12-21 Thread Malcolm Smith

OK Folk,

For those not used to the ramblings of an owner of the above camera's delete
now and save yourself pain.

I have been informed that you learn about the LX over time, but I found that
it was as if I had always had one. It is heavier than the MX (noticeably -
mine has the dial data back) but the build quality is terrific.

In use the LX has a nosier shutter, which is a bit of a nuisance for close
wildlife shots, but hey! shoot with an LX and it stays shot:-) I always have
the MX to use which I feel compliments the LX for certain tasks.

The biggest advantage to acquiring a new camera was making me think: having
one type of camera for many years had introduced apathy into my camera use.
I'd like to think this renewed interest in photography will make me think
before and during the use of the camera. I now wish to move on from the "We
were here photos" to pictures with life and feeling. About time.

I have the LX wink, I also have a deepened enjoyment of the MX. Does that
make sense?

Malcolm
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Pensando en ti.

2001-12-21 Thread Matamoros, Cesar A.

Albano,

Estoy aqui en NY con la familia de vacaciones y pasando las pascuas.
Aqui es posible ver las noticias en español de Univision en vez de las
noticias de la prensa nacional en ingles.  

Ayer vi las noticias de tu pais y de Buenos Aires en particular.
Espero que estes bien y tambien toda tu familia y amigos.  Siento por ti y
tu pais.  Se que Argentina era unas de las paises mas fuertes economicas y
es triste ver lo que ha pasado...

Bueno, mejor dejar la platica de politica.  Espero que estes
bien y todo regresa ha una forma normal pronto.  Y si puedes pasar este
pensamiento a los de mas Argentinos que estan en la lista te lo agradeceria.

Aqui para servirle, si puedo,

César
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Re: Bought an S800, Printing tips and PS question?

2001-12-21 Thread Tom Rittenhouse

You be sending a 2400ppi 1x1.5 inch image to the printer. You need to change
to a 400ppi 6x9 inch image before printing. That is you want to keep the
file size the same but the image size larger. That is usually called
resizing. If you change the file size it is usually called resampling. Best
quality on that S800 would be from a 450 to 600 ppi image going by what I
have seen on the PDML Printer Challenge.

Ciao,
graywolf



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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 6:46 AM
Subject: Bought an S800, Printing tips and PS question?


> Hi,
>
> I just bought a Canon S800 and made my first print. I'm pretty impressed
so
> far.
>
> Any tips on getting good prints? i noticed it was a little pixely in the
> finely detailed sections.
>
> Also I am printing out of photoshop 6 and when i go into print options if
i
> select the scale to be
> 100% then the image appears tiny on the page, i have to choose to scale to
> fit media which in turn makes the image scale about  2000%. The image was
> scanned in at 2400dpi, so if anything shouldn't i be down sizing the
image?
>
> Thanks,
> Paul
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Re: Which Printer to Buy?

2001-12-21 Thread Tom Rittenhouse

Yes to the best of my knowledge, the S800 has six separate tanks. The other
S series use 4 tanks, as did Canon BJC-6xx series. The Epson 2000P has six
separate tanks. The HPs replace the three color cartridge with an optional
six color cartridge, I think black is separate, also the print-heads are
built into the cartridges. The Epson Photo printers use a 6 color cartridge,
black and 5 colors.

As far as I know the only one of these that is designed specifically as a
photo printer is the Canon S800. It is supposed to be rather slow printing
text.

I have not seen recent prints made on ah HP with the six-color cartridge
installed. If anyone has one, please send it to the PDML Pinter Challenge.

Ciao,
graywolf



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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 8:45 AM
Subject: RE: Which Printer to Buy?


> They may have 6 colors but only the BJC-8200 and S-800 have six tanks that
> can actively use them at one time. Most or all of the rest usually require
> either a separate 4 color photo cartridge (older Canons and HPs for sure
and
> probably the rest also) or the replacement of 2 or 3 of the 4 tank models
> with photo ink cartridges.
> Kent Gittings
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Rittenhouse
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 2:47 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Which Printer to Buy?
>
>
> I think all the PHOTO printers have six colors, either standard or as an
> option.
>
> Ciao,
> graywolf
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Kent Gittings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 9:10 AM
> Subject: RE: Which Printer to Buy?
>
>
> > S800 has 6 ink tanks instead of 4 so it can have the regular and 2 photo
> ink
> > cartridges in and in use at the same time. It should increase the range
of
> > reproducible colors. It has the same ink tank arrangement as the
> > discontinued BJC-8200 which I think at least one user on this list has.
> > Kent Gittings
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Jones
> > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 5:28 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Which Printer to Buy?
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Have the results come in from the PDML printer showdown? maybe i just
> missed
> > them.
> >
> > I'm proably going to buy an Inkjet this weekend. The ones i'm looking at
> are
> > a Canon S600, Canon S800 and Epson 980. Is there other I should be
looking
> > at? Has any one got any opinions on these?
> >
> > As yet i'm unable to see any real difference between the S600 and S800
> > except for speed.
> >
> > The 980 is an A4 version of the 1270 or 1280 isnt it?
> >
> > I dont need a printer that prints more than A4 size as my scanner wont
> scan
> > at a high enough res to go that big.
> >
> > Any comments appreciated.
> >
> > Have the results come in from the PDML printer showdown? maybe i just
> missed
> > them.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Paul Jones
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Re: test

2001-12-21 Thread Tom Rittenhouse

You have a floking great holiday too.  And the same to the rest of you.

Me? I'll be glad when it is over, and I can grow my beard back. My christmas
hero is the Grintch. That's the only way I get xmas presents, steal them. HO
HO HO!

Ciao,
graywolf



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Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 1:14 AM
Subject: test


> HAR!!
> Its not a test at all.
> It is a wish for all to have a most festive and joyous Christmas
> season, in whatever manner you choose to celebrate, or ignore
> it.
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PDML Printer Challenge Winners to be Anounced

2001-12-21 Thread Tom Rittenhouse

If anyone has a print in the mail, and I have not confirmed receiving it,
please let me know. If I don't hear otherwise I will consider all the prints
postmarked by 15 Dec. to have come in by 30 Dec. And, will announce the 2001
winners on 31 Dec.

Ciao,
graywolf
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Re: OT - Voigtlander Bessa L&R (but I mention ME Super)

2001-12-21 Thread Tom Rittenhouse

No, it is a viewfinder camera. Rangefinder cameras by definition have an
optical rangefinder. That means all those AF p&s cameras are not RF cameras
at all. Calling them RF cameras is about the same as calling them SLR.
camera, misleading to say the least.

Ciao,
graywolf



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Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:00 AM
Subject: RE: OT - Voigtlander Bessa L&R (but I mention ME Super)


> Even if the camera uses separate viewfinders like early Leicas it's still
a
> rangefinder camera.
> Kent Gittings
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Niesmertelny
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 7:49 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: OT - Voigtlander Bessa L&R (but I mention ME Super)
>
>
> Frank, I own the Bessa L (no rangefinder/needs an lens-specific
viewfinder)
> with the Snapshot Skopar 25mm f4.  True, the body is plasticky, but the
lens
> is worth the price of the whole kit.  I'll get the 15mm eventually.  In
> terms of shutter noise, I don't think the camera was ever intended on
being
> Leica-like, only Leica-ready.  My ME Super is probably as quiet, maybe
more
> so.  But it is a funky camera, good for a conversation whenever it goes
out,
> and not "threatening" as an SLR might be (as it is just plain goofy
looking
> to the general population).
>
> I got mine from B&H when they were having a "special", selling them for
> US$129.00 (body only).
>
> Best regards,
>
> Chris
>
>
> Frank thanked the respondents:
>
> Thanks for your responses.  I surfed around the web a bit last night, and
> much of what you three said was confirmed in various reviews.
>
> Turns out the body's plastic (a camera shop selling them steered me
wrong).
> They also seem to have variable quality from sample to sample, as some
have
> found them quite noisy for a rangefinder, while others haven't.
>
> And the lenses have been almost universally praised (plus, I guess, you
can
> stick old Leica screwmounts on them if you want/can afford to).
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Re: Shift in lens tone rendering

2001-12-21 Thread Tom Rittenhouse

And, it will show in as little as 500 years. BTW, do you guys who have
the screw mount 50/1.4 where your dosimeter when using it?

Ciao,
graywolf



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Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:39 PM
Subject: Shift in lens tone rendering


> Flavio,
>
> I have read that a lens that uses rare-earth elements (such as scandium or
> cobalt) in its glass or coating will change color as the radioactive
coating decays. Apparently this is truer of old lenses, or at least old
lenses have aged enough that we can now see the effects. Presumably the same
will happen over time to a modern lens that uses rare earth. Zenitar claims
to use rare earth; I don't know how many other lens makers use it.
>
> Paul Stregevsky
>
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FS: Several Pentax cameras and other items

2001-12-21 Thread Carlos Royo

These are the remaining Pentax cameras I have for sale. I have already
sold the AF500FTZ flash + accessories.

This is the first lot:

Pentax SFX AF SLR body (like new) + Pentax soft case for the SFX + SMC
Pentax-F 35-70 mm. 3.5-4.5 (one of the best standard zooms Pentax has
made) + 2 SFX battery grips, one for 2CR5 lithium battery and other for
4 AA batteries (everything is mint, except that one of the plastic tabs
of the soft  case is missing, but it is perfectly functional)
Instruction manual (in Spanish) Everything for US$ 170.

Second lot:

Pentax MZ-5 AF SLR body + SMC Pentax-F 35-80 mm. 4-5.6 (a fine standard
zoom lens) + Fg battery pack (the body and battery pack are like new,
the lens is EX+ cosmetically; optically and mechanically it's perfect)
Instruction manual for the camera in Spanish, and in English for the
battery pack. Everything for US$ 250.


Shipping expenses will be paid by the buyer.

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Re: New Year's Resolutions

2001-12-21 Thread C or B Waters


> This year, I resolve to shoot more film, and to use both my tripod and my
> brain more.
>
> Dan Scott
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Sounds like a good one Dan.  I'll make the same one minus the tripod part.
I'd have to do something socially unacceptable to make my main subjects
sutable for tripod shots.

Cory Waters
Shoots mostly youngins and race cars
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PhotoShop, Wellington, Costa Rica

2001-12-21 Thread Richard Seaman

folks,

I have a couple of PhotoShop Limited Edition questions which I've been 
trying to figure out for a couple of weeks:  (1) how does one adjust the 
perspective of an image, for instance if you've taken a photo of a building 
and the vertical walls aren't parallel? (2) is there any way to stop the 
rubber stamp tool's cursors from disappearing into an image - the cursors 
are nearly the same color as shadows in the image, and when I'm cleaning up 
dust specks in the shadow areas, the cursors vanish!  Thanks in advance for 
any answers to these perplexing problems!

While I'm here, I'll mention that I just added a page to my website 
showing some of the sights around Wellington, capital of New Zealand (and 
southernmost capital city in the world):

http://www.richard-seaman.com/Travel/NewZealand/Cities/Wellington/AroundAndAbout/index.html

I'm still around for the next few days, but on Christmas Day I'm going 
down to Costa Rica for a couple of weeks, so I'll be unsubscribing for a 
while.  Best wishes to everyone on the list, have an enjoyable holiday and 
happy snapping!

Richard.

home page:  www.richard-seaman.com


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FS: long screw lens

2001-12-21 Thread William Kane

Hey gang,

   Since it's friday, I will list this item:  I have a long screw mount
300/4 lens I want to get rid of.  I don't remember the brand right now,
but I think it might be Upsilon.
With a k-mount adapter it works pretty nicely on any Pentax camera.

I'm looking to get $75 for it + shipping costs.  (estimated around $10
in the US via USPS ground).

If interested, contact me offlist.

Illinois Bill Kane
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Re: PDML Printer Challenge Winners to be Anounced

2001-12-21 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Friday, December 21, 2001, at 04:43  PM, Tom Rittenhouse wrote:

> If anyone has a print in the mail, and I have not confirmed receiving 
> it,
> please let me know.

By the way, I have officially blown the deadline.  The time I was 
supposed to spend working on an image for the PDML challenge was instead 
taken up with scanning 32 prints of someone's dog and making a collage.

Yay Christmas.

I hope there are good prizes for next year.

-Aaron
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Odp: A, K , F , FA

2001-12-21 Thread Artur Ledóchowski

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From: Christien Bunting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: A, K , F , FA


> What are the differences between these various lenses ?

Check it out at http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/ There's a detailed info on the
K-mount evolution which is exactly, what you want to know.
To put it VERY shortly: K and M series lenses are MF, A is MF too but with
the "A" setting on the aperture ring, F and FA are AF with FA being
electronically most advanced of all series...

> I'm looking at the 400mm for nature shots. I dont have an AF body.

Then there's no use to buy either F or FA series lenses... If you have a
body with Ka-mount (A-series or P-series) or MZ-M (Ka2-mount), then the best
way is to get A-series lenses, since they give you the P and Av feature...
But whatever you get, it'll work:)) ... for it's Pentax:))) For example, I
often use my SMC FA 80-200mm f/4,7-5,6 on my Program A (though I have an
MZ-7 too:))
Greetz
Artur
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Re: Bought an S800, Printing tips and PS question?

2001-12-21 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Friday, December 21, 2001, at 03:53  PM, Paul Jones wrote:

> Thanks for help guys, one more questions though. When i resize it to say
> 300dpi, should i still tick the 'Scale to Media' box when i print? or 
> should
> i adjust the dpi before hand to match the size i want?
>

Make the image the size you want in Photoshop.  The less interpretation 
the printer's software has to do, the better.

-Aaron
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Re: MX v LX(owner MX 20+ years and LX just a few days)

2001-12-21 Thread Bmacrae

>In use the LX has a nosier shutter, which is a bit of a nuisance for close
wildlife shots, but hey! shoot with an LX and it stays shot:-) I always have
the MX to use which I feel compliments the LX for certain tasks.

Malcolm,

Next time you shot with the LX, compose and focus then put the mirror up before you 
fire the shutter...o, nice and quiet!!

Brendan
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Re: In Defense of Pentax Junkies [was: 85mm vs 77mm, and 43mm]

2001-12-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff

Many of the great photographers spend a lot of time choosing equipment,
many of those choices based on minutia and subtle differences between
lenses, film, and camera bodies.  A case in point that comes quickly to
mind is a Magnum photographer who, for many years, used Leicas for
almost all of his work.  He then had a specific project in mind, and the
Leica would not suffice.  After quite a bit of searching and asking
questions, he decided that a certain Rollieflex would work. 
Unfortunately, the camera's viewfinder did not satisfy him 100%, and he
continued exploring his options. He finally decided on the Rollie, but
had a (I believe it was) Hassleblad finder modified to work it.  So,
here we have a successful working professional "bogged down" in the
minute details of camera construction and features in order to get a
camera that would be just right for his photographic assignment and
personal preferences.

In addition, through reading about them, I know of several LF
photographers who have several lenses of the same or similar focal
length to use in different lighting situations and with different
films.  Their choices run from older, uncoated, and low contrast optics
to new, coated, and much sharper and much more contrasty lenses.  

Elliott Erwitt happened to have a very strong preference for a specific
tripod, although most any would have gotten the job done.  WES in later
years chose from several different SLRs depending on his needs, yet any
one of them could have "taken the picture."  David Hurn used a cheap
Canon Rebel to supplement his more expensive gear based solely on the
sound of its shutter.  And Baron Wolman, when he decided to get back
into photography, chose a late-model Pentax 928 IQ zoom to supplement
his Nikon gear based on two things: how it felt to him and the optical
qualities of the lens.  He told me that he really loved the way it felt.

Those who disparage others for talking about things such as balance,
feel, optical subtleties, and the like, with the allusion that they are
"true" photographers while others are "equipment junkies" strike me as
somewhat disingenuous.  Why did they choose a Pentax as opposed to some
other camera?  After all, any camera can be used to take a picture, so
there must have been some qualities about the Pentax that they
preferred.  Further, I contend that many "true" photographers pay lots
of attention to the qualities of their lenses, the viewfinder image,
ergonomics and the way a camera feels to them. After all, the gear will
be a constant companion for a long time. Some, and I know this to be
true, have had certain lenses modified, sometimes at great expense, to
fit cameras of another manufacturer, sometimes giving up certain
features such as open-aperture metering, in order to use the lens that
gives them the qualities they want.  A true photographer is often very
picky about his or her gear.

I know of several Leica photographers who have spent huge sums of money
to have their favorite body modified to take the rangefinder from
another body because they prefer the way a certain body feels to them
(and when you realize the the M-series Leica has been around, almost
unchanged since 1954, those differences are pretty subtle) but want
certain frame lines in the finder.  Others want a M6 because of its
meter, but won't use an M6TTL because they don't like the meter
readouts, and others prefer the M6TTL because they prefer the film speed
adjustment dial over earlier M6 models.

I've had quite a few discussions with Bob Walkden about the subtle
differences between various M cameras, and he pointed out that he liked
the way the film advance lever felt on one model over another, although
the cameras were essentially identical.  There are some leica users who
have removed the advance lever from their newer cameras only to replace
it with a 40yo lever from the M2/M3 because they preferred its feel.

As for the numbers of the M50/2.0, I'd like to note that there are
several Pentax users here, as well as leica users that I know, who have
gone so far as to use a sharpie to black out the letters on their lenses
and black camera bodies in order to give them a greater "stealth"
factor, and to, I'm sure, give them the feeling of having a camera
that's a little different and more personalized than the next guys.

A camera is a very personal piece of equipment.  That's my dos centavos.

Fred wrote:
> 
> It seems as if we Pentax junkies have been getting criticized lately
> by the "working photographers" and the "true" photographers (i.e.,
> the "dedicated", "serious", "true" image-makers, as opposed to us
> rather pathetic Pentax equipment lovers), simply because we like to
> discuss the details of the various pieces of Pentax "stuff" that's
> out there.
> 
> Well, I don't want to criticize the "serious" image-makers who
> either may simply want to just get the "damned job" done, or instead
> may want to dwell upon all the subtle ins and outs of photographic
> image

Re: Photographic moments.

2001-12-21 Thread Cotty

That was a lovely recount of your experiences at B+H, Cesar. Pity about 
the wink, but *we* know, don't we!

Thanks for a smashing read. Have a good Christmas with you and yours.

Best,

Cotty

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Re: Bought an S800, Printing tips and PS question?

2001-12-21 Thread Cotty

Hi Paul,

>> Go into 'IMAGE' and in the dpi box, enter something like 300 (dpi).
>> Select a relevant physical size, say 8 inches by 11 or whatever, and
>> Photoshop will resize the image for you to a decent physical size, and
>> decent file size ready for printing.
>
>Okay so if i enter then image size for a 5x7 then i get 497.6pixels and
>theni should be able to print at 100%

If you are scanning at 2400ppi (wrongly called dpi but accepted widely) 
and that is the optical resolution of the scanner, then you will end up 
with a scan measuring about 24mmX36mm at 2400 ppi, and the file size 
would be about 20 MB or so (assuming you're scanning the whole negative).

Resizing the image to, say, 7X5 inches, without altering the 2400 ppi 
would result in a file size of over 500MB!! So, enter a new value in the 
print size area, ostensibly of about 300 ppi, and you'll get a much more 
reasonable file size - and the print will be fine. No point in making 
your print size any more than about 300 ppi because the printer will not 
make any use of the information. (Some argue 360 ppi on Epsons but I've 
compared 2 prints side by side, one at 300 and one at 360 and saw no 
difference...)

As for interpolation, Photoshop does it very well indeed. So, if you want 
to print at A3 size (say about 16"X11") then enter those values in the 
print size area in the image size dialogue, and keep the resolution at 
300. The file size will grow a lot, but when the image is printed out, 
you will be amazed at the result. Obviously there are tricks and methods 
to getting the best out of this process, and that's where careful study 
of Photoshop through books and articles comes in to play.

>
>> While you're at it, find
>> IMAGE/LEVELS and hit the AUTO button and then enter. That'll smarten it
>> up a bit for you. *Now* try printing.
>
>I can never get Auto Levels to do what i want, i find i get better results
>when i set them manually.

I would suggest you do this: make or copy a color pattern (I used blocks 
of color) on  a plain background, and print it out. See how far out the 
printed colors are to the screen colors - they'll probably be so far out, 
you'll faint! This is where a color management regime is necessary in 
order to provide accurate results.

My point is, have you set your monitor up properly? How do you know that 
what you are tweaking manually is objectively represented on the screen? 
If Auto Levels is giving you spurious results, i would suggest your 
monitor needs setting up using available software. I find Auto Levels 
works very well indeed.

Processing and printing digital images is VERY easy to do. Processing and 
printing digital images WELL, is much more difficult. That's why when you 
go to the bookshop there are endless tomes on Photoshop.

I have been at it for three years now, and I'm *still* reading and 
re-reading on the subject. But that's because I want my prints to be as 
good as I can get them using the bits that I can afford.

I'm rambling a bit because it's late here, and I've still got to make 
some paneer (guests tomorrow night for an Indian meal...) so excuse any 
disjointed thoughts.

HTH

Cotty

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6x7 LENSES

2001-12-21 Thread J. C. O'Connell

Just bought my first 6X7 body. Now onto
the lenses. Anybody know of a website
that reviews the various lenses? 

I'm probably going to buy 3 lenses to start
with. I'm thinking a 55mm , a 105mm, and
a 200mm.
JCO
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Re: test

2001-12-21 Thread frank theriault

Hi, Tom,

I love the Grinch, too.  But the original Dr. Seuss animated version (by Chuck
Jones, who did most of the best Bugs Bunny cartoons, btw) is the only one for
me!  Not the "Hollywood-ized" Jim Carrey version.;-)

-frank

Tom Rittenhouse wrote:

> . My christmas
> hero is the Grintch. That's the only way I get xmas presents, steal them. HO
> HO HO!
>

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Re: Bye, Bye

2001-12-21 Thread frank theriault

Hi, Albano,

I hope your trip will be able to recharge your spirits, which must be
battered by recent events in your country.

Here's hoping that all goes well for you and your countrymen.

Be well, and take lots of piccies!

regards, and best of the Season to you and yours,
frank

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi, gang.
> I'm leaving for vacation this afternoon. I'm going to Patagonia zone.
> I hope to forget a bit about the horrible situation here in Buenos Aires,
> and recover some peace in the beautifull Andes, Off course I'll take some
> pictures with my lovely gear wich I hope to still own when I come back in
> two weeks (the situation here is harsh).
> Have a nice and sweet Christmas and a great and prosperous New Year.
> I'm glad to be in this great bounch of people, also known as PDML.
> Clear skies
>
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Re: OT - Voigtlander Bessa L&R (but I mention ME Super)

2001-12-21 Thread frank theriault

Gotta agree with Tom on this one.  The little detachable viewfinder that sits
on top of the camera doesn't determine distances for focussing (or any other)
purposes.  Since the Bessa L was designed for very wide-angle lenses, you can
pretty much set the lenses to infinity anyway (or so I've been told).

regards,
frank

Tom Rittenhouse wrote:

> No, it is a viewfinder camera. Rangefinder cameras by definition have an
> optical rangefinder. That means all those AF p&s cameras are not RF cameras
> at all. Calling them RF cameras is about the same as calling them SLR.
> camera, misleading to say the least.

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Re: In Defense of Pentax Junkies [was: 85mm vs 77mm, and 43mm]

2001-12-21 Thread Paul Stenquist

Fred wrote:
> 
> A rather apt defense of equipment freaks like me.

Here, here, Fred. Thanks for your astute observations regarding the
nature of the Pentax photographer/collector/equipment freak,. However, a
discussion of M 50/2 serial numbers might be a bit broad and could have
some inherent value to those dreadful image makers . Perhaps we
might instead begin recording the sounds of the various shutters,
winders, motor drives, and other Pentax devices. Then we could assemble
an MP3 library of Pentax sounds. The true aficionados could download
these and study them. This might lead to a lot of worthwhile discussion
that would be totally meaningless to those who just have to get the
damned job don.
Happy Friday,
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Re: Bye, Bye

2001-12-21 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda

We are all with you during this difficult moment.
Let's hope that when you return you'll find a more peaceful
situation. Maybe two weeks are too few to let us see a decisive
improvement, but sometimes things change very fast and we can
only pray they are going to change for the best.

Stay well and have a nice, and peaceful, Christmas.

Gianfranco


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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 1:22 PM
Subject: Bye, Bye


> Hi, gang.
> I'm leaving for vacation this afternoon. I'm going to
Patagonia zone.
> I hope to forget a bit about the horrible situation here in
Buenos Aires,
> and recover some peace in the beautifull Andes, Off course
I'll take some
> pictures with my lovely gear wich I hope to still own when I
come back in
> two weeks (the situation here is harsh).
> Have a nice and sweet Christmas and a great and prosperous New
Year.
> I'm glad to be in this great bounch of people, also known as
PDML.
> Clear skies
> 
> Albano, heading south
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Re: I'm back!

2001-12-21 Thread Steve Larson

It`s about time you came back! Glad to have you back, Paul.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
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Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 10:22 AM
Subject: I'm back!


> It's Paul Stregevsky of Maryland, after a several-month hiatus. During
those months, I used fixed-lens rangefinders as my primary cameras; my
Pentax SLRs found use only to shoot school plays.
>
> In the spring I sought your advice about what combination of body and lens
would make a good take-everywhere combination. One of you planted the idea
of a rangefinder, and while I dismissed it at the time, it led me to try one
RF after another (or two or three at a time).
>
> But I'm returning to my SLRS, for several reasons:
>
> 1. I've found that I can't focus a coincident-image rangefinder as quickly
as I can focus an SLR screen, whether I use the SLR's ground glass or (as is
more typical) split-image rangefinder.
>
> 2. I prefer using fast films, such as ISO 800, and with a top speed of
1/500 second, my rangefinders didn't give me as much "headroom" as my SLRs
(1/2,000).
>
> 3. There are times I'd rather shoot at focal lengths wider or longer than
40 or 45mm.
>
> 4. The SLRs let me compensate exposure more conveniently and quickly.
>
> 5. The SLRs show more information in the viewfinder.
>
> 6. I may be selling off some of my lenses, and I'd rather sell the list
members than go the EBay route, even if you don't have deep pockets.
>
> 7. There are times I need (or prefer to use) flash, and my SLRs' TTL
bounce flash makes it easy.
>
> 8. I missed you guys! I recently became a lurker, but there are times I
want to put in my two cents' worth, so I bit the bullet and rejoined the
list.
>
> PS: My newest belt pouch (a U.S. Postal Service pouch) is very deep; I can
hold an SLR body with a 105/2.8K or 135/2.5K, facing down. Nonetheless, the
camera that I'm wearing now in the pouch is a Yashica Electro GT (45/1.7).
It's big, it's heavy, and it has the limitations I've lamented. But it's
supremely quiet and vibration-free, and its Yashinon DX 6-element lens
simply outpeforms all normal K mounts at f/1.7 or f/2, in the center and
corners.
>
> Please note my new email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I used to
use my NEC America address, but I no longer work at NEC. I work at the U.S.
Postal Service's Engineering, Research, and Development Center in Northern
Virginia.
>
>
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Re: Bye, Bye

2001-12-21 Thread LEDMRVM

Albano-

Be safe, be well, be of good hope. This, too, shall pass.

Ed M.
Indianapolis
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Re: Bought an S800, Printing tips and PS question?

2001-12-21 Thread William Robb

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From: "Cotty" <
Subject: Re: Bought an S800, Printing tips and PS question?



> As for interpolation, Photoshop does it very well indeed. So,
if you want
> to print at A3 size (say about 16"X11") then enter those
values in the
> print size area in the image size dialogue, and keep the
resolution at
> 300. The file size will grow a lot, but when the image is
printed out,
> you will be amazed at the result. Obviously there are tricks
and methods
> to getting the best out of this process, and that's where
careful study
> of Photoshop through books and articles comes in to play.

Check out:

www.fredmiranda.com

Some wonderful picture galleries, but if you click on the
software link, then actions and profiles, you can download a
thing called Stair Interpolation, which is a plug in that runs
the bicubic interpolation in small increments, which he seems to
think is how it works best.
He has some other cool stuff there that I haven't looked at yet.
William Robb
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Fuji Super HQ 200 film

2001-12-21 Thread Ken Archer

Does anyone have any info on this film.  I heard that my local minilab 
is going to have a sale it Sunday and Monday for 99 cent/24 exp roll.
That sounds cheap enough, but is it any good?  I couldn't find anything 
on it on Fuji's web site.
-- 
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Naples, Florida

2001-12-21 Thread John Mustarde

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 15:22:07 -0700, you wrote:

> If anybody has suggestions for good places to shoot in or
>around Naples (specially scenics and wildlife), I would be most
>appreciative.  

If this is an annual trip, you probably already know a lot of
locations. But just in case you are unfamiliar, be sure to go up to
Ding Darling Wildlife Refuge on Sanibel Island. A 300mm or longer lens
is nice to have, but the critters are so used to people that I've got
great shots with 100mm and 200mm lenses. The time a raccoon ran
between the legs of a lady standing next to me I could have used a
24mm Macro.

Often the best bird photography at Ding Darling is at the crossdike
area, so be sure to park and stay awhile. Especially at high tide, the
shorebirds will assemble at the crossdike pond to feed. They'll fly
over from one side of the road to the other en masse, and if high tide
comes in late afternoon it can be quite a gathering. The sight of a
flock of Roseate Spoonbill passing over and lighting on the water in
front of you is impressive.

I haven't had any luck getting good shots at Ding while walking the
trails much further than a hundred yards beyond the far end of the
crossdike. There's lots more to see if you stay near the road. 

Ding Darling is closed on Fridays. They open fairly late (about 8 or
8:30 a.m.) so don't plan on any sunrise shots. Oh, and there's no
restrooms beyond the entrance.

Corkscrew Swamp is a fine outing, also. I can't remember how close it
is to Naples. Corkscrew has a long boardwalk, about two miles or so. I
got some great shots of a barred owl and a pileated woodpecker there.

Koreshan State Historic Site, located on US 41, is a very interesting
visit, but for the buildings and the history of the inhabitants rather
than wildlife photography. The Koreshans were firmly convinced the
world is flat, and had the "scientific" data to prove it. An example
of the scientific apparatus they used to prove the world is flat is on
display.

I don't know how bad the mosquitoes and no-see-ums are this time of
year, but be prepared. No-see-ums are tiny, persistant biting insects
which love people more than anything in the world. They are immune to
the standard DEET insect repellents, but applying Avon Skin-So-Soft or
Adolph's Meat Tenderizer may help keep them away, and long pants and
long sleeve shirts help a lot also.

Collier-Seminole State Park is right at Naples. It is a worthy trip.
Take their boat ride down the Blackwater River  - you'll enjoy it. The
wildlife there is accustomed to human contact, so you may see some
good birding off at the edges of the main area, or maybe even a black
bear.

--
John Mustarde
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Re: In Defense of Pentax Junkies [was: 85mm vs 77mm, and 43mm]

2001-12-21 Thread Paul Stenquist

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> 
>(A very detailed and well written explanation of why some photographers
are very particular about their equipment.)

Bravo Shel. Thank you for this beautifully written and very astute look
at the relationship between the fine art photographer and his equipment.
I'm sure you realize that I am being facetious when I joke about
equipment junkies (I do include myself in that category.). I have always
felt a strong connection between the equipment and the work, and I
frequently agonize over my choices, since I can't afford to purchase
everything that would help me connect better with the process. Of course
my skills are not so well developed as to make these choices very
important, but they are important to me on a personal level.
 I think that for much of the world and for some members of this
list, a "working photographer" is the PJ who struggles to produce images
for the local newspaper or the wedding photographer who has to turn out
huge numbers of formulaic photographs. I was once burdened by similar
tasks, and equipment was certainly a minor concern in those days. If the
camera produced acceptable results without problems, it was the right
camera. That, of course, is not the art of photography. And when one has
the opportunity to consider the nuances of photography apart from the
economic considerations, the significance of the equipment becomes
immediately apparent. Thanks for sharing your wisdom.
Paul
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Re: 6x7 LENSES

2001-12-21 Thread Paul Stenquist

All right! Way to go JCO. The list is making a move to medium format.
Sounds like a good choice of focal lengths. I started out in about the
same place, but then found an affordable 150/2.8 that was available
RIGHT NOW. Sometimes that makes a difference. I might very well end up
with the 55, 90, 150, and 300 if I can finance all that. In any case, I
found some Pentax 6x7 reviews at
http://www.photo.net/photo/pentax-67.htmlThe info here is somewhat
syste oriented, but they hit on a number of the lenses. I think all of
those you mentioned are highly rated, although there is some debate
regarding the relative merits of the 90 and 105. 
Paul

"J. C. O'Connell" wrote:
> 
> Just bought my first 6X7 body. Now onto
> the lenses. Anybody know of a website
> that reviews the various lenses?
> 
> I'm probably going to buy 3 lenses to start
> with. I'm thinking a 55mm , a 105mm, and
> a 200mm.
> JCO
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Re: Fuji Super HQ 200 film

2001-12-21 Thread Bruce Dayton

Ken,

I have shot some in the past (when I didn't know any better).  It is
the cheapest stuff that Fuji makes and is a half a step below Kodak
Gold.  I wasn't impressed at all.  The images came out somewhat
lackluster in both prints and scans.  Personally, I don't think it is
worth more than a dollar a roll. If you need some practice stuff to
burn through, it is ok.


Bruce Dayton



Friday, December 21, 2001, 4:40:09 PM, you wrote:

KA> Does anyone have any info on this film.  I heard that my local minilab 
KA> is going to have a sale it Sunday and Monday for 99 cent/24 exp roll.
KA> That sounds cheap enough, but is it any good?  I couldn't find anything 
KA> on it on Fuji's web site.
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Re: Fuji Super HQ 200 film

2001-12-21 Thread Gary L. Murphy

On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 18:40:09 -0600, Ken Archer wrote:

>Does anyone have any info on this film.  I heard that my local minilab 
>is going to have a sale it Sunday and Monday for 99 cent/24 exp roll.
>That sounds cheap enough, but is it any good?  I couldn't find anything 
>on it on Fuji's web site.

I use it all the time when I don't need the faster 400 Superia. I hav found nothing 
wrong with it. At 99 cents a 
roll, I'd stock up if I were you






Later,
Gary
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Re: My wife just doesn't understand...

2001-12-21 Thread John Mustarde

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 19:48:16 -0500, you wrote:

>I hope that the combination of APO and Macro features lead to a lens
>that's at least as sharp as my SMC-K 400/5.6 (which seems to me to be
>sharper than my Tokina SD 400/5.6 PK-A).  

Your Sigma AF 400/5.6 APO Macro will be a pleasant surprise in terms
of sharpness and contrast. I'm quite sure it will blow the K-400/5.6
and certainly the Tokina out of the water, especially wide open.

--
John Mustarde
www.photolin.com
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Re: long screw lens

2001-12-21 Thread Bill Owens

Maybe another infamous Rexatar?

Bill, KG4LOV
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Subject: FS: long screw lens


> Hey gang,
> 
>Since it's friday, I will list this item:  I have a long screw mount
> 300/4 lens I want to get rid of.  I don't remember the brand right now,
> but I think it might be Upsilon.
> With a k-mount adapter it works pretty nicely on any Pentax camera.
> 
> I'm looking to get $75 for it + shipping costs.  (estimated around $10
> in the US via USPS ground).
> 
> If interested, contact me offlist.
> 
> Illinois Bill Kane
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MZ-S Data imprinting

2001-12-21 Thread Bill Owens

There was a thread recently about MZ-S data imprinting and whether it was
done at time of exposure or during rewind.  I can now answer the question.
At work tonight, I put the MZ-S in our dark box, opened the back and removed
about half a roll.  Stuck it in the film processor and when it exited, the
exposure data was where it was supposed to be.  Therefore, the MZ-S imprints
the exposure data at the time of exposure.

Bill, KG4LOV
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I have gained respect for the "pros"

2001-12-21 Thread Bill Owens

After three weekends of taking "Portraits With Santa" I have gained a
tremendous amount of respect for those that have to do this sort of thing
for a living.  About half of the kids were scared, crying or otherwise a
real pain in the butt.  Not to mention Mommy and/or Daddy trying to settle
them down and usually making things worse.

Bill, KG4LOV
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Re: Cover Shot

2001-12-21 Thread aimcompute

Thanks Bruce.  Which one would you have chosen, out of curiosity?  The one
they chose was not my first pick.  It was *maybe* 2nd on my list, more
likely 3rd or 4th. Same was true when they picked the aurora shots.  The art
director (Tom BTW) showed me the mockup (terminology?) for the cover.  It
looked great.  I also saw the original web version on his Mac.  It looked
good too.  No doubt it was calibrated correctly.

I'm happy about it... for sure.  It's funny the way things happen.  I took a
chance and inquired once.  The aurora shots were really "photographs" in my
opinion, meaning I was deliberate and focused, and they were the kind of
things I really enjoy shooting.  The sledding photos, on the other hand,
were merely snapshots, raise the camera to the eye and shoot, with never a
forethought or afterthought that one could be published.

I have almost always disagreed with the Pop Photo #1 pick.

Tom C.

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From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "aimcompute" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: Cover Shot


> Tom,
>
> Congratulations!  I would feel so proud and excited if I were in your
> shoes.  When I viewed the images you submitted, the one they chose is
> not the one I would have chosen.  Maybe the editor there is friends
> with the editors at Pop Photography who chose the contest winners. :)
>
> I guess this makes you a working pro instead of one of us who can
> ramble all day long about equipment minutia.
>
>
>
> Bruce Dayton
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Re: Technical question about the list

2001-12-21 Thread Steve Larson

Also, for all the Outlook Express users (The only one I use) to quickly
rid yourself of messages that are of no interest to you- have the hideous
message highlighted- click on  "subject" at the top, that will group them
all
together- click on the first one, then while holding down the shift key,
click on the last one, they will all become highlighted- press the delete
key.  "I" then click on "received" at the top to get them back in
chronological order.  Fast and easy.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
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Subject: Re: Technical question about the list


> (Gee, I get too busy to read the list for a few days and folks
> start talking about two cameras I really love -- the KX and
> the H3...)
>
> Levente -Levi- Littvay suggested:
> > What does everyone think about adding a [pentax] to the subject
> > of each letter so it is easier to filter (both with machine and both by
> > eyeballing the mailbox)
>
> I am opposed to this, but not vehemently so.
>
> Subject lines get kind of long, and when I'm eyeball-filtering
> this list I do so by subject.  Sticking "[pentax]" or "[pdml]"
> on the front of each subject header means taking away that many
> characters from the number displayed in the width of my telnet
> window, which would make an existing problem worse for me.
>
> Filtering through software is already pretty easy -- I'm already
> sorting each mailing list I'm on into a separate file so that I
> can just concentrate on personal mail when I'm too busy for the
> lists.  (I've got crude spam filtering in place as well, which
> I need to refine.)
>
> (Also, personally, I find it's still easy to overlook personal
> messages in a forest of list mail jumbled into one mailbox, even
> if list-prefixes are used on the subject headers.  It helps more
> when the tags are on the few messages I'm looking for -- i.e. with
> a low-traffic mailing list in a high-traffic personal mailbox --
> rather than the other way 'round.)
>
> So for me there'd be no gain and a small but noticeable downside.
>
>
> As for why my opposition is mild:  well it _would_ be a pretty
> trivial thing to implement, other folks might be seeing more of
> the subject lines than I do and thus have less reason to complain,
> and some people probably don't have the means to sort/filter
> their email automagically (and thus need the "eyeball filter" help).
> But note that a personal reply to a mailing list message will wind
> up grouped with the list messages if you sort only on a tag in the
> subject line.
>
>
>
>
> That's the important part of my message -- if all you want is my
> opinion, skip the rest.  Now comes some info on sorting list
> mail for folks who have that capability but haven't explored it
> yet.
>
> Each message arrives with a whole pile o' headers, many of which
> your mail reader may not bother to show you (especially if you've
> specifically told it not to.)  The very first line of a message
> (and how to spot the start of a new message in an ASCII mailbox)
> begins with "From ".  There's another from-header further down
> which has a colon on it -- "From: ".  The second one will show
> the sender of the message.  The first one (if your mail filtering
> rules allow you to sort on it) will say
>
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Sun Dec  2 04:43:40 2001
>
> (with the date changing from message to message, of course).
> Other useful headers for sorting PDML messages into their own
> folder are:
>
> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> and, of course:
>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> But watch out for using that last one -- the list address could
> show up in the "Cc:" header instead of "To:" (some filtering
> programs will combine the two for the purpose of a filtering
> rule), if someone uses BCC to send a message to the list then
> the list address will not show up in either "To:" or "Cc:".
>
> Anyhow, if you have the ability to sort your mail, you probably
> have the ability to sort out the PDML messages without needing
> a list-tag on the subject line.  (Yes, I do acknowledge that
> some filtering systems are incredibly primitive -- I hope those
> are a small minority.)
>
>
> (Wow ... glad this came up, actually.  Made me take a look at
> my filter rules, which include some for when the list was hosted
> elsewhere, and then I looked at my Procmail log file and realized
> it was 29M because I'd forgotten to clear it out since April 2000.
> Whoops!)
>
> -- Glenn
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Re[2]: Cover Shot

2001-12-21 Thread Bruce Dayton

aimcompute,

I think my first choice would have been Three Kids Sledding.  It shows
more fun in the snow to me and the contrast is a little better.  The
one he picked would have been about my 3rd or 4th choice.


Bruce



Friday, December 21, 2001, 6:36:41 PM, you wrote:

a> Thanks Bruce.  Which one would you have chosen, out of curiosity?  The one
a> they chose was not my first pick.  It was *maybe* 2nd on my list, more
a> likely 3rd or 4th. Same was true when they picked the aurora shots.  The art
a> director (Tom BTW) showed me the mockup (terminology?) for the cover.  It
a> looked great.  I also saw the original web version on his Mac.  It looked
a> good too.  No doubt it was calibrated correctly.

>snip<

a> Tom C.
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Scanner Cleanliness

2001-12-21 Thread aimcompute

I don't know whether it's me or my scanner.

For the last several months, at least, I've been somewhat unhappy about the
image quality from my Minolta Dimage Scan Dual.  Basically I think the image
looks sharper through my $10 Carson 7X plastic loupe, than it does when
scanned.  I'm comparing the slides to images that are PUG-sized.

Sharpening, Unsharp Mask, etc., doesn't seem to help, or at least satisfy
me.  I admit most of my sharpening is trial and error.

I'm wondering if there's a possibility that there is dust, dirt, film, etc.
on the lens in the scanner (assuming one exists).   The unit is about 3
years old.

Any thoughts on whether I should take the cover off and have a look?

Or is this an optical illusion?  Just thinking... I find when I scan a neg
and compare it to the print, it doesn't look bad.  But when I scan a slide
and see it large, it doesn't look as good.  Is it possible that with negs
I'm comparing basically 1-to-1's whereas with slides I'm comparing a small
image with an enlarged one, and noticing a difference?

Thanks for any help.

Tom C.
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Re: MZ-S Data imprinting

2001-12-21 Thread aimcompute

Cool test Bill... and practical!

Though I likely will never own one, it seems that imprinting at rewind would
be problemmatic and needlessly complicated.

Tom C.


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Subject: MZ-S Data imprinting


> There was a thread recently about MZ-S data imprinting and whether it was
> done at time of exposure or during rewind.  I can now answer the question.
> At work tonight, I put the MZ-S in our dark box, opened the back and
removed
> about half a roll.  Stuck it in the film processor and when it exited, the
> exposure data was where it was supposed to be.  Therefore, the MZ-S
imprints
> the exposure data at the time of exposure.
>
> Bill, KG4LOV
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Re: DPI vs. PPI

2001-12-21 Thread Doug Franklin

On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 18:50:24 -0700, aimcompute wrote:

> I have noticed that scanner mfr.'s use the term interchangeably.  For
> instance Minolta lists their scanner resolutions in dpi.

I've always thought of it as "pixels" each have all of the color
vectors (R, G, and B, or C, M, Y, and K, or whatever), whiles "dots"
have only one color vector.  Sort of like the difference in color
scanner sensors and digicam sensors.  The color scanner samples all of
the colors at each pixel while the digicam (generally) only samples one
color at each pixel, then interpolates the other colors.  Printers
generally get described in "dots" while scanners and monitors in
"pixels".

YMMV

TTYL, DougF
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Shooting The Moon (Was Re: My wife just doesn't understand)

2001-12-21 Thread Doug Franklin

Hi John,

On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 19:05:19 -0600, John Mustarde wrote:

> Your Sigma AF 400/5.6 APO Macro will be a pleasant surprise in terms
> of sharpness and contrast. I'm quite sure it will blow the K-400/5.6
> and certainly the Tokina out of the water, especially wide open.

Boy, John, I hope you're right.  I'd love to find out that my technique
isn't as bad as I thought but my 400 lenses aren't as good as I
thought. :-)  I think I'm going to try a couple of moon shots tomorrow
night with the Sigma.  If I think about it, I'll do some "side by side"
comparison shots with the K 400.  Since I don't have a tripod collar
for the Tokina, I can't do side by sides for it.

Speaking of taking moon photos, I'd appreciate comments on my plan of
attack.

I'll be using a heavy duty surveyor's tripod (aluminum, unfortunately).
 I may use a Bogen/Manfrotto 3262 ball head (the only head I have) or I
may put the camera directly on the tripod and adjust the legs instead
of using a head.  I'll set the tripod up on earth rather than concrete.

I'll ballast the tripod itself with a 40 pound (5 gallon) bucket of
water hanging from the center "yoke" of the tripod.  I'm not sure
whether it's better to keep the ballast closer to the ground or the
"yoke".  I'll ballast the lens and camera with one or two 2# ankle
weights.  Either both over the tripod mount or one on the camera itself
and one near the front of the lens.

I'll use the Sigma with two Pentax 2X-S T/Cs.  It looks like the lens
would work with a 2X-L T/C, but I don't have one. :-(  The body will be
my LX, since I have the "magnifinder" (looking down into the top of the
camera works better when it's elevated 30 or more degrees).

I'll be using the "Moony 11" rule (like Sunny 16).  That means a
shutter speed 4/ASA since my effective aperture will be f/22. Or should
that be 2/ASA?  I'll have to do the math again. :-)

I haven't decided on film yet.  I've got the following in house: 
Portra 160NC, Royal Gold 100 and 400, T400CN, TriX, and Max 400.  I'm
thinking probably Portra or RG 100, or maybe TriX.

All suggestions welcome. :-)

TTYL, DougF
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Re: Cover Shot

2001-12-21 Thread aimcompute

Interesting... that was also my first choice for the same reasons!!!

They initially asked for winter sports and the one they picked, while cute,
was not an action shot.

Their comments on the one they picked were:

"Real cute shot and a dramatic pose." "The way her hat's pulled down and the
look on her face...".

I guess little girls are hard to resist...

She's my niece.  She is really photogenic, smart, and looks like she'll be a
"knockout" when she grows up.   When they came to visit I bought all the
kids cowboy hats.  Her's was pastel pink.  Boy did she love it.  I wish I
had a picture of her wearing it.

Tom C.


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Subject: Re[2]: Cover Shot


> aimcompute,
>
> I think my first choice would have been Three Kids Sledding.  It shows
> more fun in the snow to me and the contrast is a little better.  The
> one he picked would have been about my 3rd or 4th choice.
>
>
> Bruce
>
>
>
> Friday, December 21, 2001, 6:36:41 PM, you wrote:
>
> a> Thanks Bruce.  Which one would you have chosen, out of curiosity?  The
one
> a> they chose was not my first pick.  It was *maybe* 2nd on my list, more
> a> likely 3rd or 4th. Same was true when they picked the aurora shots.
The art
> a> director (Tom BTW) showed me the mockup (terminology?) for the cover.
It
> a> looked great.  I also saw the original web version on his Mac.  It
looked
> a> good too.  No doubt it was calibrated correctly.
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Re: Fuji Super HQ 200 film

2001-12-21 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: "Ken Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 6:40 PM
Subject: Fuji Super HQ 200 film


> Does anyone have any info on this film.  I heard that my local
minilab
> is going to have a sale it Sunday and Monday for 99 cent/24
exp roll.
> That sounds cheap enough, but is it any good?  I couldn't find
anything
> on it on Fuji's web site.

It's essentially a film technology that is a couple of
generations outdated. I was told by a Fuji rep that the HQ
emulsions are between Super HR and Super G in the time line..
William Robb
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FS: LX and Auto Bellows A

2001-12-21 Thread JTodd19261

Saw today an LX body w/FA1 finder and B-grip for $400; cosmetics well used, 
but shutter curtain and mirror sponge look very clean.  The Auto Bellows A 
was in a box, did not look at it and do not know what all comes with it for 
$99.

Schillers Camera and Video  314-968-3650
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Re: Battery pack FG

2001-12-21 Thread Bgpentax

  I would HIGHLY recommend the FG pack for any ZX-7 user...Camera feels
 better with the extra heft and size and I'm at 75 rolls on the first $3.00 
set
 of Duracells with no end in sight...Only draw-back is Z-body is now a real
 S-Q-U-E-E-Z-E into the holster case
 Regards,
 Bob
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Pentax ME + M50/1.4

2001-12-21 Thread jmadams

I went to a Pawn Shop in Burnaby just before closing tonight, and asked
about a Pentax ME + M50/1.4 lens they were for $165CDN. Checking the camera,
all I could see wrong were the mirror and door seals plus dead batteries
(wrong ones too I suspect), apart from that it is mint.  Are M876 batteries
correct? The SMC Pentax-M 50mm f1.4 is sharp as a button, and clean.

It's the same place I got my ME Super, and when I mentioned the seals need
replacing, the guy said gimmi a $100, and he was happy, I'm s happy.
Merry Chrismas and a happy, safe and prosperous new year to everyone.
James
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Re: Shooting The Moon (Was Re: My wife just doesn't understand)

2001-12-21 Thread Bob Blakely

I'd use 400 IS0 to keep the shutter above 1/100 even with the mirror up. As
to B&W or color, the moon doesn't have much color. I find the full moon
unsatisfying. The sun is straight on so no shadows are cast. I like a
gibbous moon. Affix as much weight on the camera as is practical to reduce
the amplitude of any vibrations, but don't do anything that over stresses
the lens mount. I'd set steel points on concrete. Use a head. The earth
turns faster than you think.

Regards,
Bob...

"Let us contemplate our forefathers, and posterity,
and resolve to maintain the rights bequeathed to us
from the former, for the sake of the latter.
The necessity of the times, more than ever, calls
for our utmost circumspection, deliberation, fortitude,
and perseverance. Let us remember that 'if we
suffer tamely a lawless attack upon our liberty,
we encourage it, and involve others in our doom.'
It is a very serious consideration that millions yet
unborn may be the miserable sharers of the event."
- Samuel Adams, 1771

- Original Message -
From: "Doug Franklin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 7:56 PM
Subject: Shooting The Moon (Was Re: My wife just doesn't understand)


> Hi John,
>
> On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 19:05:19 -0600, John Mustarde wrote:
>
> > Your Sigma AF 400/5.6 APO Macro will be a pleasant surprise in terms
> > of sharpness and contrast. I'm quite sure it will blow the K-400/5.6
> > and certainly the Tokina out of the water, especially wide open.
>
> Boy, John, I hope you're right.  I'd love to find out that my technique
> isn't as bad as I thought but my 400 lenses aren't as good as I
> thought. :-)  I think I'm going to try a couple of moon shots tomorrow
> night with the Sigma.  If I think about it, I'll do some "side by side"
> comparison shots with the K 400.  Since I don't have a tripod collar
> for the Tokina, I can't do side by sides for it.
>
> Speaking of taking moon photos, I'd appreciate comments on my plan of
> attack.
>
> I'll be using a heavy duty surveyor's tripod (aluminum, unfortunately).
>  I may use a Bogen/Manfrotto 3262 ball head (the only head I have) or I
> may put the camera directly on the tripod and adjust the legs instead
> of using a head.  I'll set the tripod up on earth rather than concrete.
>
> I'll ballast the tripod itself with a 40 pound (5 gallon) bucket of
> water hanging from the center "yoke" of the tripod.  I'm not sure
> whether it's better to keep the ballast closer to the ground or the
> "yoke".  I'll ballast the lens and camera with one or two 2# ankle
> weights.  Either both over the tripod mount or one on the camera itself
> and one near the front of the lens.
>
> I'll use the Sigma with two Pentax 2X-S T/Cs.  It looks like the lens
> would work with a 2X-L T/C, but I don't have one. :-(  The body will be
> my LX, since I have the "magnifinder" (looking down into the top of the
> camera works better when it's elevated 30 or more degrees).
>
> I'll be using the "Moony 11" rule (like Sunny 16).  That means a
> shutter speed 4/ASA since my effective aperture will be f/22. Or should
> that be 2/ASA?  I'll have to do the math again. :-)
>
> I haven't decided on film yet.  I've got the following in house:
> Portra 160NC, Royal Gold 100 and 400, T400CN, TriX, and Max 400.  I'm
> thinking probably Portra or RG 100, or maybe TriX.
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Re: Battery pack FG

2001-12-21 Thread JeffW.

on 12/21/01 10:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I would HIGHLY recommend the FG pack for any ZX-7 user...Camera feels
> better with the extra heft and size and I'm at 75 rolls on the first $3.00
> set
> of Duracells with no end in sight...Only draw-back is Z-body is now a real
> S-Q-U-E-E-Z-E into the holster case
> Regards,
> Bob
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My only complaint with the FG is the tightness of the connection and the
tripod screw hole. I worry about the steadiness of my camera when on a
tripod.

JeffW.
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