Re: MZ-S Data imprinting
Bill wrote: > It did on my MZ-S. But not on others who tested it. Sombody must have done some mistake in their testing procedure or Pentax have changed the design of the MZ-S. Theres no way my MZ-S could imprint data except on rewind. Again there is the posibility that your MZ-S is malfunctioning; that it prints on wind. This could be confirmed by cheking if the data are out of alignment; ie. don't belong to the image they are printed over but the next image. I really have no other way of explaining this... Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S Data imprinting
Bill wrote: > It did on my MZ-S. > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S Data imprinting
Bill, Sounds like a pretty fool proof experiment! Thanks for clearing that up. Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I placed the MZ-S and a 126 holder in a dark box. I opened the back of the MZ-S, cut the film at the cassette and pulled the film off the take-up spool. I then rewound the film, put it in the 126 holder and inserted it into our C-41 processor. When the film exited the processor, all of the exposure data was imprinted normally and in the proper place between the sprocket holes. >> - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Angenieux Zoom Pentax K mount on eBay
Paul ... The lens is really as good as it sounds. When I complain about the mediocre zooms that are generally available for 35mm use, it's lenses like this one that I use as a point of reference for quality zoom optics. Build quality is excellent, focus feel is excellent, image quality is excellent. Another superb zoom is the Vivitar Series I 90~180/4.5 flat field macro zoom. Unfortunately, these lenses are big compared to many contemporary optics, a tradeoff that I'd gladly make for their optical quality. If I had the $$$ right now, I'd buy the lens in a New York minute. Paul Stenquist wrote: > > Hi Shel, > I took a peak at the lens. What do you think was the first thing that > crossed my mind? "Gosh, Shel ought to buy this one." If I wasn't trying > to put four kids through college and fill out my 6x7 kit at the same > time, I'd be bidding on it. If it's really as good as it sounds, it > could replace three lenses in the light travel kit. > Paul > > Creature's Comfort wrote: > > > > That's an amazingly good lens, and the kit offered is superb. It's one > > zoom amongst a few very select zooms, that I'd like to have in my > > collection. > > > > Fred wrote: > > > > > Well, your URL is still missing a '?' between the ".dll" and the > > > "View". Here is correct the URL: > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1311880669 > > > > -- > > Sheldon Belinkoff > > CREATURE'S COMFORT > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Sheldon Belinkoff CREATURE'S COMFORT 510-235-7648 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Need advice on good service for my Super A
Angel, You do not have a problem with your Super A/Super Program. It is operating properly. Pentax added this feature to prevent very long exposures as you tried to wind the film for the 1st shot on the roll. As an ME user, I would load the film, shut the door, and press the shutter release. Since the lens cap was on the camera, the exposure was verrry looong and used up extra battery juice. The Super Program prevents this by setting a speed of 1/1000 for the first two exposures after the back has been closed. You can get around this by using the X (100th) setting. I haven't a spare base plate for the PZ-1/PZ-1p or I would help you. Perhaps another pdml member who is making an order to Pentax USA could help you out, order one, and forward it. Snail mail to Puerto Rico for the base plate can't be $.85. Regardless, my PZ-1 has worked file with the break. Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Hi everyone and Happy Holidays I have a Pentax Super A with a problem. I need to move the film advance two times to get a shot. The meter looks like is working fine. Is there any good place to send this camera, also called the black super program? Also my Pentax PZ1p has the plastic bottom cover ( near the battery) broken, I have call Pentax, they want $12.00 for a new cover and $25 dollars shipping ( UPS they say no other way to ship to Puerto Rico!) , Go and figure why, we use the same US postal service as they do! I think it will be around a US Dollar to send it old snail mail, but too expensive for UPS. Does anyone has a one of this covers that can sell? Thanks Angel Ramos Arecibo, Puerto Rico >> - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: What cameras OTHER than the LX rate at least a half wink?
>So I'm wondering, all you LX smirkers out there, >if you had to replace your LX with ONE, ONLY ONE, other >Pentax that existed prior, to, say, 1990, what would it >be? Well, I suppose I'd have to find another LX. Well, really ;-) Malcolm - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What cameras OTHER than the LX rate at least a half wink?
A black body MX with winder... Brendan - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: Angenieux Zoom Pentax K mount on eBay
Fred... Thanks, I saw that. When I access remotely my text window is not large enough to send the link unbroken... Brendan - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Need advice on good service for my Super A
Hi everyone and Happy Holidays I have a Pentax Super A with a problem. I need to move the film advance two times to get a shot. The meter looks like is working fine. Is there any good place to send this camera, also called the black super program? Also my Pentax PZ1p has the plastic bottom cover ( near the battery) broken, I have call Pentax, they want $12.00 for a new cover and $25 dollars shipping ( UPS they say no other way to ship to Puerto Rico!) , Go and figure why, we use the same US postal service as they do! I think it will be around a US Dollar to send it old snail mail, but too expensive for UPS. Does anyone has a one of this covers that can sell? Thanks Angel Ramos Arecibo, Puerto Rico - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S Data imprinting
> > I think one of the MZ-S owners need to do this: remove the film in a dark > > bag at frame 35, rewind it outside the camera manually into the canister > > before processing it. And then let us know what happened. > > > It has been done and it didn't print on those frames. > > > Pål It did on my MZ-S. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S Data imprinting
Hi people. Last summer I did the test for 2 weeks each day, and if my alzeimer dont confuse me I can remember that film cutted on darkbox and putted in a chassis didn´t show any exposure data, but if you want I can make the test again next Monday. -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] En nombre de Pål Jensen Enviado el: sábado, 22 de diciembre de 2001 22:53 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asunto: Re: MZ-S Data imprinting Frits wrote: > I assumed printing > was done after rewinding the full film, but it would make more sense to do > it after the rewind of a partially exposed film and not wait. Yes, that's exactly what happens. It prints the data for the frames exposed after the film was loaded. If you expose only frame 24-36 it prints only on those frames. Same if you expose frame 1-12. > I think one of the MZ-S owners need to do this: remove the film in a dark > bag at frame 35, rewind it outside the camera manually into the canister > before processing it. And then let us know what happened. It has been done and it didn't print on those frames. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cover Shot
Thanks Lon & Dave. This one was ideally set up for the cover. They only cropped a little. Purely accidental on my part. Wet-ware? :-) I hadn't thought of the "yesteryear" angle Dave. The magazine has a definite bent towards Idaho history and the past two covers have been sepia tone photos from 50+ years ago. You may have a point there! Tom C. - Original Message - From: "Dave Weiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pentax-discuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 1:52 PM Subject: Re: Cover Shot > Tom, > > What I noticed is that it looks like it was set-up for a cover shot. That > is, I can easily visualize where they would put in the magazine title, story > names, etc, (all that lettering) as the left hand side of the picture and > upper part lack some detail. I might be mistaken, but I think these type of > spacing issues are relatively important. > > On my monitor, the pink nicely compliments the blue in a pastelish sort of > way. > > Nice picture in any event. Looking at it evokes thoughts of yesteryear. > > dave > > > > > > > __ > Send a friend your Buddy Card and stay in contact always with Excite Messenger > http://messenger.excite.com > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT - Voigtlander Bessa R
Mine reminds me of a P30, minus the plastic film advance leaver. The most of the MZ series would have less metal, but in my opinion they still feel better built. Regards, Paul - Original Message - From: "Raimo Korhonen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 1:34 AM Subject: Vs: OT - Voigtlander Bessa R > The "body" is not plastic - chassis is aluminium alloy, only outer panels are plastic. More metal that current Pentaxes have, except MZ-S I suppose. The noise is not bad IMHO. > All the best! > Raimo > Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen > > -Alkuperäinen viesti- > Lähettäjä: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Päivä: 21. joulukuuta 2001 0:47 > Aihe: Re: OT - Voigtlander Bessa R > > > >Hi, tom, Bob and Paul, > > > > >Turns out the body's plastic (a camera shop selling them steered me wrong). > >They also seem to have variable quality from sample to sample, as some have > >found them quite noisy for a rangefinder, while others haven't. > > >regards, > >frank > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S Data imprinting
Frits wrote: > I assumed printing > was done after rewinding the full film, but it would make more sense to do > it after the rewind of a partially exposed film and not wait. Yes, that's exactly what happens. It prints the data for the frames exposed after the film was loaded. If you expose only frame 24-36 it prints only on those frames. Same if you expose frame 1-12. > I think one of the MZ-S owners need to do this: remove the film in a dark > bag at frame 35, rewind it outside the camera manually into the canister > before processing it. And then let us know what happened. It has been done and it didn't print on those frames. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What cameras OTHER than the LX rate at least a half wink?
645, i'm pretty sure it came out prior to 1990? - Original Message - From: "Lon Williamson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PDML Pentax Discuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 6:34 AM Subject: What cameras OTHER than the LX rate at least a half wink? > Cotty, > > I love ya like a hen loves her chicks, but some of us > are, as we say on this side of the pond, "poor as Afgan > rats after the hay rack got bombed". > > So I'm wondering, all you LX smirkers out there, > if you had to replace your LX with ONE, ONLY ONE, other > Pentax that existed prior, to, say, 1990, what would it > be? > > -Lon, who, every time he THINKS he is enabled, finds that he > is not. lol. > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S Data imprinting
Mark wrote: > I just checked my MZ-S and the data imprinting emitter is not where the film > comes out of the cassette, it's on the other side right next to the take-up > spool. This is NOT the dtataimprinting emmitter but the sprocket hole sensor. The data is imprinted on the top of the film. Since the the image is formed upside down in the camera, the emmitter must be located at the bottom end of the film chamber, something it is. The emmitter position is stated in MZ-S litterature and in the patents. The emitter is at the lower right corner of the pressure plate when the back is opened. It also perfectly in the path of the sprockett holes. The emitter is at the back, not in the camera. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S Data imprinting
Bill wrote: > There are 11 sensors at the bottom of the MZ-S, just below the guide rails. > Evidently these sensors are what imprints the exposure data between the > sprocket holes. The eleven "sensors" are not sensor but electrical contacts for the databack. They are also outside the film path so even if they were emmiters theres no way they could imprint on the film. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S Data imprinting
Bill wrote: > It was rewound from the take-up spool. The MZ-S DEFINITELY IMPRINTS > EXPOSURE DATA AT THE TIME OF EXPOSURE Sorry, but this has been tested by others proving that when the film is NOT rewounded theres no data printed. In addition, other test also prove that the film is printed on rewind. Pentax litterature says where the emitter is and it is positioned in a way that it could only imprint on rewind. It is located beside the lower, right corner of the pressure plate. I don't know what happened oin your case but can you please try to explain how your MZ-S actually do the imprinting? Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What cameras OTHER than the LX rate at least a half wink?
>So I'm wondering, all you LX smirkers out there, >if you had to replace your LX with ONE, ONLY ONE, other >Pentax that existed prior, to, say, 1990, what would it >be? Super A/Super Program. regards, Alan Chan _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S Data imprinting
> I think one of the MZ-S owners need to do this: remove the film in a dark > bag at frame 35, rewind it outside the camera manually into the canister > before processing it. And then let us know what happened. > > Frits Wüthrich This is precisely what I did, although with a partial roll. The data WAS there. Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cover Shot
Tom, What I noticed is that it looks like it was set-up for a cover shot. That is, I can easily visualize where they would put in the magazine title, story names, etc, (all that lettering) as the left hand side of the picture and upper part lack some detail. I might be mistaken, but I think these type of spacing issues are relatively important. On my monitor, the pink nicely compliments the blue in a pastelish sort of way. Nice picture in any event. Looking at it evokes thoughts of yesteryear. dave __ Send a friend your Buddy Card and stay in contact always with Excite Messenger http://messenger.excite.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S Data imprinting
Paul Wilkinson explained he re-winded the film before removing the film out of the camera, so it could be very well Pål is correct. I assumed printing was done after rewinding the full film, but it would make more sense to do it after the rewind of a partially exposed film and not wait. Although personally I would have designed it during wind immediately after the shot, it takes only one shot to remember in that case. Perhaps they didn't want to slow the camera down to this and have a (further) negative impact on the frames per second number, which seems important to some people. I think one of the MZ-S owners need to do this: remove the film in a dark bag at frame 35, rewind it outside the camera manually into the canister before processing it. And then let us know what happened. Frits Wüthrich - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S Data imprinting
It was rewound from the take-up spool. The MZ-S DEFINITELY IMPRINTS EXPOSURE DATA AT THE TIME OF EXPOSURE Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Tom Rittenhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 11:59 AM Subject: Re: MZ-S Data imprinting > Hummm? Did you remove it from the take-up spool, or from the cassette? If > you had rewound it into the cassette it would already be imprinted. Whereas > if you took it from the take up spool then your test would seem to be valid > which is confusing because everything I have heard says it imprints on > rewind. > > Ciao, > graywolf > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - Original Message - > From: Bill Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:25 PM > Subject: MZ-S Data imprinting > > > > There was a thread recently about MZ-S data imprinting and whether it was > > done at time of exposure or during rewind. I can now answer the question. > > At work tonight, I put the MZ-S in our dark box, opened the back and > removed > > about half a roll. Stuck it in the film processor and when it exited, the > > exposure data was where it was supposed to be. Therefore, the MZ-S > imprints > > the exposure data at the time of exposure. > > > > Bill, KG4LOV > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S Data imprinting
> Tom wrote: > > > Though I likely will never own one, it seems that imprinting at rewind would > > be problemmatic and needlessly complicated. > > Can anyone explain this myth? To mee it seem ten times more problematic to imprint data during wind than rewind. > > Pål There are 11 sensors at the bottom of the MZ-S, just below the guide rails. Evidently these sensors are what imprints the exposure data between the sprocket holes. Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S Data imprinting
Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Bill wrote: > > > > There was a thread recently about MZ-S data imprinting and whether it was > > done at time of exposure or during rewind. I can now answer the question. > > At work tonight, I put the MZ-S in our dark box, opened the back and removed > > about half a roll. Stuck it in the film processor and when it exited, the > > exposure data was where it was supposed to be. Therefore, the MZ-S imprints > > the exposure data at the time of exposure. > > > This can't be. I don't know what you did but what you describe is impossible. Sorry Paal, but it can be and it is possible. I placed the MZ-S and a 126 holder in a dark box. I opened the back of the MZ-S, cut the film at the cassette and pulled the film off the take-up spool. I then rewound the film, put it in the 126 holder and inserted it into our C-41 processor. When the film exited the processor, all of the exposure data was imprinted normally and in the proper place between the sprocket holes. Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S Data imprinting
> This make no sense. It is imprinting on rewind that make mid roll change and roll number count totally hassle free. Think of what happens: every time you open the back door of your camera the memory is getting cleared. This mean that you can reload a film 36 times if you like and the camera will only imprint those images you shot after you relaoded the film cause thats all thats in the memory. You need memory anyway if you don't use a row of emmiters that fires simultaneously during exposure (something thats impossible anyway cause theres no way you could have made sure that the data is imprinted between the sprocket holes). After all, you need a sprocket hole sensor separated from the data emmiter something tha means that there will be a time delay between exposure, sprocket hole sensoring and data imprinting. Memory is needed anyway. When using mid roll change, you have to dial in the frame number before loading the film. It evidently counts sprocket holes. If you tell the camera to start at frame 4, and you have already exposed through frame 6, you will have double exposures on frames 4-6. Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S Data imprinting
Pål Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Regardless, the dataimprinting emitter is located where the film comes >out of its casette. This means that the area of the film being exposed >has already moved past the sensor. Hence, the only way to pair up the >data and the frame exposed is during rewind when the film goes back >into the casette. I just checked my MZ-S and the data imprinting emitter is not where the film comes out of the cassette, it's on the other side right next to the take-up spool. (The time/date imprinting emitters are on the cassette side, though, but mounted behing the film pressure plate.) So it's at least *possible* that it could do imprinting during winding, rather than rewinding. I'll check it out with the next roll I shoot. >Also, I strongly suspect that printing on wind would be practically impossible. >The MZ-S dataimprinting system works by having a Sprockett-hole detecting device >which detects that each of the sprocket holes passes a predetermined position, >and having a film moving amount detector. The latter works according to Pentax >by measuring the space between the end of the trailing edge of the last frame >to the END OF THE FILM. The end of the film is the reference and can of course >only be determined when the camera reaches it or when the film rewind is started. Wouldn't that mean you couldn't get exposure data imprinting when you only shoot part of a roll of film? -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What cameras OTHER than the LX rate at least a half wink?
> So I'm wondering, all you LX smirkers out there, if you had to > replace your LX with ONE, ONLY ONE, other Pentax that existed > prior, to, say, 1990, what would it be? Without hesitation the Super A or Super Program. ;^} (that's a Super A wink - ) Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What cameras OTHER than the LX rate at least a half wink?
William Robb wrote: 6x7. Yes, but Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What cameras OTHER than the LX rate at least a half wink?
> So I'm wondering, all you LX smirkers out there, > if you had to replace your LX with ONE, ONLY ONE, other > Pentax that existed prior, to, say, 1990, what would it > be? > > -Lon, who, every time he THINKS he is enabled, finds that he > is not. lol. The screwmount SV, I think. But then I am a sad individual who thinks that cameras with meters are a bit too modern. ;-) Philip [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What cameras OTHER than the LX rate at least a half wink?
- Original Message - From: "Lon Williamson" Subject: What cameras OTHER than the LX rate at least a half wink? > So I'm wondering, all you LX smirkers out there, > if you had to replace your LX with ONE, ONLY ONE, other > Pentax that existed prior, to, say, 1990, what would it > be? 6x7. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: K2 DMD without flashsync
In a message dated 12/22/01 8:25:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > IMHO, this exactly the reason that I would *not* want to use this > feature! I can't think of anything worse than suddenly being stopped from > shooting - fiddling with the dial could result in a lost picture. Hello Cotty, I saw it exactly your way when I first started using the MX + motor drive for covering youth soccer games. But as my technique improved and I began to anticipate the action better, I was able to get the shot I wanted within a five frame burst. Then, as the action shifted, I simply reset before the next flurry began somewhere else on the field. Resetting is no big deal; just roll the thumb wheel to the desired number. I don't think Pentax had this application in mind when they developed this feature. I understand the LX motor drive has the same feature, although I don't know this first hand. Regards, Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What cameras OTHER than the LX rate at least a half wink?
Lon, My second choice was and is the Super Program (Super A). It has lots of features including TTL flash and DOF preview. And when you just need some snapshots (like for Tom C's cover photos), you can use a full program mode. Regards, Bob S. Lon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) asked Cotty: << So I'm wondering, all you LX smirkers out there, if you had to replace your LX with ONE, ONLY ONE, other Pentax that existed prior, to, say, 1990, what would it be? >> - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What cameras OTHER than the LX rate at least a half wink?
Tough question, Lon. I'm torn between the MX and the Spotmatic F. The MX has a better meter, and it is more compact. But the Spotmatic F is a sturdy workhorse, and you can build a full kit of extremely fine lenses for considerably less than the cost of comparable K-mount lenses. Consider the value of a Spotmatic F with the superb SMC Taks 24/3.5, 28/3.5, 35/2.0, 50/1.4, 85/1.8, 105/2.8, 135/2.5, 200/4, and 300/4. That's probably the best value in 35mm photography. Lon Williamson wrote: > > Cotty, > > I love ya like a hen loves her chicks, but some of us > are, as we say on this side of the pond, "poor as Afgan > rats after the hay rack got bombed". > > So I'm wondering, all you LX smirkers out there, > if you had to replace your LX with ONE, ONLY ONE, other > Pentax that existed prior, to, say, 1990, what would it > be? > > -Lon, who, every time he THINKS he is enabled, finds that he > is not. lol. > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Angenieux Zoom Pentax K mount on eBay
Hi Shel, I took a peak at the lens. What do you think was the first thing that crossed my mind? "Gosh, Shel ought to buy this one." If I wasn't trying to put four kids through college and fill out my 6x7 kit at the same time, I'd be bidding on it. If it's really as good as it sounds, it could replace three lenses in the light travel kit. Paul Creature's Comfort wrote: > > That's an amazingly good lens, and the kit offered is superb. It's one > zoom amongst a few very select zooms, that I'd like to have in my > collection. > > Fred wrote: > > > Well, your URL is still missing a '?' between the ".dll" and the > > "View". Here is correct the URL: > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1311880669 > > -- > Sheldon Belinkoff > CREATURE'S COMFORT > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
What cameras OTHER than the LX rate at least a half wink?
Cotty, I love ya like a hen loves her chicks, but some of us are, as we say on this side of the pond, "poor as Afgan rats after the hay rack got bombed". So I'm wondering, all you LX smirkers out there, if you had to replace your LX with ONE, ONLY ONE, other Pentax that existed prior, to, say, 1990, what would it be? -Lon, who, every time he THINKS he is enabled, finds that he is not. lol. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Angenieux Zoom Pentax K mount on eBay
That's an amazingly good lens, and the kit offered is superb. It's one zoom amongst a few very select zooms, that I'd like to have in my collection. Fred wrote: > Well, your URL is still missing a '?' between the ".dll" and the > "View". Here is correct the URL: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1311880669 -- Sheldon Belinkoff CREATURE'S COMFORT mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax ME + M50/1.4
In a message dated 12/22/2001 8:11:51 AM US Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > MS 76 batteries are correct. > > Good price, and I still have a liking for the old ME. > > Regards, Bob S. > > Also: EPX76, SR44, G13, RS76, V76PX, and S76. All are the same but come from different manufacturers. MS76H hearing aid batteries also worked properly in my ME Super. Regards, Ed M. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Shooting The Moon (Was Re: My wife just doesn't understand)
Hi Frits, On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 10:14:19 -, Frits J. Wthrich wrote: > How does the SMC-A 400/f5.6 compare to the K 400/f5.6 and this Sigma 400/5.6 > APO Macro? Specifically wide open. I couldn't tell you, since I've never owned or used the SMC-A 400/5.6 ... I did a couple of shots this morning with the Sigma, but it'll be after Christmas before I get the film developed. TTYL, DougF - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S Data imprinting
Bill wrote: > There was a thread recently about MZ-S data imprinting and whether it was > done at time of exposure or during rewind. I can now answer the question. > At work tonight, I put the MZ-S in our dark box, opened the back and removed > about half a roll. Stuck it in the film processor and when it exited, the > exposure data was where it was supposed to be. Therefore, the MZ-S imprints > the exposure data at the time of exposure. This can't be. I don't know what you did but what you describe is impossible. 1. The dataemitter led is a point source. Theres no row of emitters. Hence, it cannot print during exposure. Only during wind or rewind while the film is traveling. The dataemitter is on the right side of the pressure plate on the back (right side when the back is opened - left side of the film chamber) 2. The data cannot be imprinted during wind due to the fact that the dataimprinting emitter is placed on the left side of the shutter. This means that the emmitter is placed next to the next shot on the film not the one you are shooting. Ie. if dataimprinting was done upon winding data will be off with one frame on all frames; data for frame 12 would be imprinted on frame 13. The only way to make dataimprinting work upon wind and shooting is for the camera to have telephatic powers so that it knows the exposure before you make it! Imprinting can only happen on rewind. To put it clear: the film moves from left to right. The dataemmitter is to the left. This means that the film is transported past the emitter BEFORE the image is taken. Hence its impossible to imprint data during exposure or wind. 3. The dataimprinting during rewind is also proven on those cameras that had the over lapping frame syndrome. The overlapping frames did not have overlapping data imprinted something that would have happened if the imprinting followed the wind of the camera. The data was imprinted as it would be if the camera frames were correctly spaced. This could not have happened if data were imprinted on wind. 4. The Pentax MZ-S patens clearly state how the data is imprinted on rewind. That it use a sprocket hole counter and memory of exposure data deleted upon rewind of the film. 5. Theres no way possible to make dataimprinting between the sprocket holes upon exposure/wind without variable speed winding and/or uneven spacing between frames or very sophisticated sensor and emmitter software making sure you don't pint IN the holes not between them. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S Data imprinting
Tom wrote: > Though I likely will never own one, it seems that imprinting at rewind would > be problemmatic and needlessly complicated. Can anyone explain this myth? To mee it seem ten times more problematic to imprint data during wind than rewind. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S Data imprinting
Frits wrote: > I have never seen a MZ-S real life, but it would make sense to me the > writing is done during the film transport immediately after taking the > exposure. >Waiting to print during rewind would require the storage of the > data in memory for all shots, and think about the additional hassle for mid > roll changes. This make no sense. It is imprinting on rewind that make mid roll change and roll number count totally hassle free. Think of what happens: every time you open the back door of your camera the memory is getting cleared. This mean that you can reload a film 36 times if you like and the camera will only imprint those images you shot after you relaoded the film cause thats all thats in the memory. You need memory anyway if you don't use a row of emmiters that fires simultaneously during exposure (something thats impossible anyway cause theres no way you could have made sure that the data is imprinted between the sprocket holes). After all, you need a sprocket hole sensor separated from the data emmiter something tha means that there will be a time delay between exposure, sprocket hole sensoring and data imprinting. Memory is needed anyway. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: DPI vs. PPI
>I have noticed that scanner mfr.'s use the term interchangeably. For >instance Minolta lists their scanner resolutions in dpi. > >Not trying to be nit-picky... I promise I'm not... but if the product >manufacturers who write the specs call it that, I guess it's not wrong to >use the term. In essence a pixel is a dot of light, the absence of a dot of >light, or a place for a dot of light to go. > >At least that's what I think... I think. > >Tom C. I would tend to agree with you Tom. However, playing devil's advocate, ppi surely refers to input and images on a monitor, and dpi refers to output on a printer? It is being picky, you're right. I prefer dpi personally - then everyone knows what we mean! Cheers, Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: K2 DMD without flashsync
>MX motor drive, don't let it get away! It's very fast - 5 fps at >maximum - and the user can vary the speed up to the max.. It also allows >burst mode whereby by the user dials in a predefined number of frames. When >you choose continuous over single shot and you hold the shutter release >down, >the camera will expose the number of frames you preselected and then stop. >This prevents exposing more film than you wanted to in an action situation. IMHO, this exactly the reason that I would *not* want to use this feature! I can't think of anything worse than suddenly being stopped from shooting - fiddling with the dial could result in a lost picture. But it is a feature, and as such does not have to be used, granted. I'm relieved not to see thi son the motor drive LX... Cheers, Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cover Shot
Congratulations! :-) I'll bet you are stoked (I would). Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom wrote: >I got an e-mail yesterday from Idaho Magazine. They have decided to use one >of my shots for the January cover. The one they chose is: > >http://www.peaceoflight.com/WinterSports/GirlBlueSled.htm > >There were several that I thought were good candidates. This was one of >them. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax ME + M50/1.4
MS 76 batteries are correct. Good price, and I still have a liking for the old ME. Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I went to a Pawn Shop in Burnaby just before closing tonight, and asked about a Pentax ME + M50/1.4 lens they were for $165CDN. Checking the camera, all I could see wrong were the mirror and door seals plus dead batteries (wrong ones too I suspect), apart from that it is mint. Are M876 batteries correct? The SMC Pentax-M 50mm f1.4 is sharp as a button, and clean. It's the same place I got my ME Super, and when I mentioned the seals need replacing, the guy said gimmi a $100, and he was happy, I'm s happy. >> - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Bought an S800, Printing tips and PS question?
Paul.Not sure about that.I never use the "scale to media" box,but i dont see why you would need to. Dave Begin Original Message From: "Paul Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks for help guys, one more questions though. When i resize it to say 300dpi, should i still tick the 'Scale to Media' box when i print? or should i adjust the dpi before hand to match the size i want? Thanks, Paul Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S Data imprinting
Frits, That was my opinion too. However, since many of the folks here are much more knowledgeable I wanted to verify and have a basis for backing up my claim before I opened my mouth. Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I have never seen a MZ-S real life, but it would make sense to me the > writing is done during the film transport immediately after taking the > exposure. Waiting to print during rewind would require the storage of the > data in memory for all shots, and think about the additional hassle for mid > roll changes. > Printing during transport allows for a single row of LED's that need to be > fired in a sequential way. A single print would require a LED matrix which > would be a more costly approach I guess. > > Frits Wüthrich - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: I have gained respect for the "pros"
Hey, that was enough for me, wimp that I am. :-) Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Doug Brewer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 1:14 AM Subject: Re: I have gained respect for the "pros" > Three weekends?!? > > wimp. > > > > > At 9:33 PM -050012/21/01, Bill Owens wrote, or at least typed: > >After three weekends of taking "Portraits With Santa" I have gained a > >tremendous amount of respect for those that have to do this sort of thing > >for a living. About half of the kids were scared, crying or otherwise a > >real pain in the butt. Not to mention Mommy and/or Daddy trying to settle > >them down and usually making things worse. > > > >Bill, KG4LOV > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Shooting The Moon (Was Re: My wife just doesn't understand)
I know the SMC A 400/5.6 focuses much closer than the K. The k's minimum focus precludes bird or small game shots without an extension tube. That's been somewhat of a pain for me. "Frits J. Wüthrich" wrote: > > How does the SMC-A 400/f5.6 compare to the K 400/f5.6 and this Sigma 400/5.6 > APO Macro? Specifically wide open. > > Frits Wüthrich > > Doug Franklin wrote: > > Hi John, > > > > On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 19:05:19 -0600, John Mustarde wrote: > > > > > Your Sigma AF 400/5.6 APO Macro will be a pleasant surprise in terms > > > of sharpness and contrast. I'm quite sure it will blow the K-400/5.6 > > > and certainly the Tokina out of the water, especially wide open. > > > > Boy, John, I hope you're right. I'd love to find out that my technique > > isn't as bad as I thought but my 400 lenses aren't as good as I > > thought. :-) I think I'm going to try a couple of moon shots tomorrow > > night with the Sigma. If I think about it, I'll do some "side by side" > > comparison shots with the K 400. Since I don't have a tripod collar > > for the Tokina, I can't do side by sides for it. > > > > Speaking of taking moon photos, I'd appreciate comments on my plan of > > attack. > > > > I'll be using a heavy duty surveyor's tripod (aluminum, unfortunately). > > I may use a Bogen/Manfrotto 3262 ball head (the only head I have) or I > > may put the camera directly on the tripod and adjust the legs instead > > of using a head. I'll set the tripod up on earth rather than concrete. > > > > I'll ballast the tripod itself with a 40 pound (5 gallon) bucket of > > water hanging from the center "yoke" of the tripod. I'm not sure > > whether it's better to keep the ballast closer to the ground or the > > "yoke". I'll ballast the lens and camera with one or two 2# ankle > > weights. Either both over the tripod mount or one on the camera itself > > and one near the front of the lens. > > > > I'll use the Sigma with two Pentax 2X-S T/Cs. It looks like the lens > > would work with a 2X-L T/C, but I don't have one. :-( The body will be > > my LX, since I have the "magnifinder" (looking down into the top of the > > camera works better when it's elevated 30 or more degrees). > > > > I'll be using the "Moony 11" rule (like Sunny 16). That means a > > shutter speed 4/ASA since my effective aperture will be f/22. Or should > > that be 2/ASA? I'll have to do the math again. :-) > > > > I haven't decided on film yet. I've got the following in house: > > Portra 160NC, Royal Gold 100 and 400, T400CN, TriX, and Max 400. I'm > > thinking probably Portra or RG 100, or maybe TriX. > > > > All suggestions welcome. :-) > > > > TTYL, DougF > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S Data imprinting
I have never seen a MZ-S real life, but it would make sense to me the writing is done during the film transport immediately after taking the exposure. Waiting to print during rewind would require the storage of the data in memory for all shots, and think about the additional hassle for mid roll changes. Printing during transport allows for a single row of LED's that need to be fired in a sequential way. A single print would require a LED matrix which would be a more costly approach I guess. Frits Wüthrich aimcompute wrote: > Cool test Bill... and practical! > > Though I likely will never own one, it seems that imprinting at > rewind would > be problemmatic and needlessly complicated. > > Tom C. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 7:25 PM > Subject: MZ-S Data imprinting > > > > There was a thread recently about MZ-S data imprinting and > whether it was > > done at time of exposure or during rewind. I can now answer > the question. > > At work tonight, I put the MZ-S in our dark box, opened the back and > removed > > about half a roll. Stuck it in the film processor and when it > exited, the > > exposure data was where it was supposed to be. Therefore, the MZ-S > imprints > > the exposure data at the time of exposure. > > > > Bill, KG4LOV > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: K2 DMD without flashsync
Hello Tim, The seller mail-adress is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (yes, Sweden). I don't know if it is sold or not. I haven't actually seen the body, I only know what the seller has told me. The reason why I backed of, is that electrical problems on old cameras makes me suspicious. Best regards Anders Werholt - Original Message - From: "Tim Engel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 10:14 PM Subject: Re: K2 DMD without flashsync > Anders, > > If you aren't interested in the K2 DMD anymore, would you mind passing > along the name and contact info (preferably e-mail) for the person selling > it. I may be interested. I have two K2 DMD's and really like them. > You're right they don't come along all that often and I would hate to pass > on an opportunity without at least checking it out. > > Could you be more specific about the condition of the body (besides the > hotshoe problem)... what turned you off about it? > > Thanks, > Tim Engel > > > 21 Dec 01, Anders Werholt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Thanks for all your answers. > > I'm sure that the K2 DMD is a great camera, but decided not to buy it. I > was > > a bit doubtful about the body condition, and I already have the SMCM > > 100/2.8. Instead I found a nice MX + a SMC 35/3.5 for about 100 USD. It > will > > be a fine complement to my KX and my Me Super. > > > > Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you all. > > > > Anders Werholt > > > > 16 Dec 01, Anders Werholt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have found a K2 DMD in good condition, except that the flash-sync > > > does not work. I think the seller is asking a reasonably price (about > > > 240 USD, including SMCM 35/2 and SMCM 100/2.8, both in good > > > condition). This body is not found so often, at least not where I live. > > > The problem is the flash-sync. This is not easily fixed, or am I wrong? > > > The problem is probably shutter-related, and rather expensive to fix > > > (if possible at all). Any advices? > > > > > > Best regards > > > Anders Werholt - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Shooting The Moon (Was Re: My wife just doesn't understand)
How does the SMC-A 400/f5.6 compare to the K 400/f5.6 and this Sigma 400/5.6 APO Macro? Specifically wide open. Frits Wüthrich Doug Franklin wrote: > Hi John, > > On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 19:05:19 -0600, John Mustarde wrote: > > > Your Sigma AF 400/5.6 APO Macro will be a pleasant surprise in terms > > of sharpness and contrast. I'm quite sure it will blow the K-400/5.6 > > and certainly the Tokina out of the water, especially wide open. > > Boy, John, I hope you're right. I'd love to find out that my technique > isn't as bad as I thought but my 400 lenses aren't as good as I > thought. :-) I think I'm going to try a couple of moon shots tomorrow > night with the Sigma. If I think about it, I'll do some "side by side" > comparison shots with the K 400. Since I don't have a tripod collar > for the Tokina, I can't do side by sides for it. > > Speaking of taking moon photos, I'd appreciate comments on my plan of > attack. > > I'll be using a heavy duty surveyor's tripod (aluminum, unfortunately). > I may use a Bogen/Manfrotto 3262 ball head (the only head I have) or I > may put the camera directly on the tripod and adjust the legs instead > of using a head. I'll set the tripod up on earth rather than concrete. > > I'll ballast the tripod itself with a 40 pound (5 gallon) bucket of > water hanging from the center "yoke" of the tripod. I'm not sure > whether it's better to keep the ballast closer to the ground or the > "yoke". I'll ballast the lens and camera with one or two 2# ankle > weights. Either both over the tripod mount or one on the camera itself > and one near the front of the lens. > > I'll use the Sigma with two Pentax 2X-S T/Cs. It looks like the lens > would work with a 2X-L T/C, but I don't have one. :-( The body will be > my LX, since I have the "magnifinder" (looking down into the top of the > camera works better when it's elevated 30 or more degrees). > > I'll be using the "Moony 11" rule (like Sunny 16). That means a > shutter speed 4/ASA since my effective aperture will be f/22. Or should > that be 2/ASA? I'll have to do the math again. :-) > > I haven't decided on film yet. I've got the following in house: > Portra 160NC, Royal Gold 100 and 400, T400CN, TriX, and Max 400. I'm > thinking probably Portra or RG 100, or maybe TriX. > > All suggestions welcome. :-) > > TTYL, DougF - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: A, K , F , FA
That price is probably in the range. I paid $399 in excellent condition for it two months ago with the help of eBay. The lens is quite nice. Frits Wüthrich Christien Bunting asked: > What are the differences between these various lenses ? > > > I'm looking at a used Pentax 400mm A F/5.6 for 549usd. Is this a good > buy ? I already have : > > 50mm F/2 > 35-80mm F/4-5.6 > 70-210mm F/3.9 > 28-105mm F/2.8 - 3.8 > > I'm looking at the 400mm for nature shots. I dont have an AF body. I'm > thinking of getting the 1.4 teleconverter also sometime in the near > future. I do have a Vivitar x2 btw. > > Thanks > Chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MX v LX(owner MX 20+ years and LX just a few days)
- Original Message - From: "Malcolm Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I have the LX wink, I also have a deepened enjoyment of the MX. Does that > make sense? Absolutely. I enjoy both a lot. IMO, the MX also deserves a dedicated wink. Jostein ;-) http://oksne.net - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Vs: OT - Voigtlander Bessa L&R (but I mention ME Super)
Which one is a viewfinder camera? The Bessa L has no viewfinder or rangefinder, the R has a combined range-viewfinder and the M has rangefinder but no viewfinder. With L and M you have to use accessory viewfinders. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Tom Rittenhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Päivä: 21. joulukuuta 2001 23:06 Aihe: Re: OT - Voigtlander Bessa L&R (but I mention ME Super) >No, it is a viewfinder camera. Rangefinder cameras by definition have an >optical rangefinder. That means all those AF p&s cameras are not RF cameras >at all. Calling them RF cameras is about the same as calling them SLR. >camera, misleading to say the least. > >Ciao, >graywolf > > > >- Original Message - >From: Kent Gittings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:00 AM >Subject: RE: OT - Voigtlander Bessa L&R (but I mention ME Super) > > >> Even if the camera uses separate viewfinders like early Leicas it's still >a >> rangefinder camera. >> Kent Gittings >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Niesmertelny >> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 7:49 PM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: OT - Voigtlander Bessa L&R (but I mention ME Super) >> >> >> Frank, I own the Bessa L (no rangefinder/needs an lens-specific >viewfinder) >> with the Snapshot Skopar 25mm f4. True, the body is plasticky, but the >lens >> is worth the price of the whole kit. I'll get the 15mm eventually. In >> terms of shutter noise, I don't think the camera was ever intended on >being >> Leica-like, only Leica-ready. My ME Super is probably as quiet, maybe >more >> so. But it is a funky camera, good for a conversation whenever it goes >out, >> and not "threatening" as an SLR might be (as it is just plain goofy >looking >> to the general population). >> >> I got mine from B&H when they were having a "special", selling them for >> US$129.00 (body only). >> >> Best regards, >> >> Chris >> >> >> Frank thanked the respondents: >> >> Thanks for your responses. I surfed around the web a bit last night, and >> much of what you three said was confirmed in various reviews. >> >> Turns out the body's plastic (a camera shop selling them steered me >wrong). >> They also seem to have variable quality from sample to sample, as some >have >> found them quite noisy for a rangefinder, while others haven't. >> >> And the lenses have been almost universally praised (plus, I guess, you >can >> stick old Leica screwmounts on them if you want/can afford to). >> - >> This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >> go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >> visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . >> >> >> >> ** >> This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and >> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they >> are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify >> the system manager. >> >> This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by >> MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. >> >> www.mimesweeper.com >> ** >> - >> This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >> go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >> visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Scanner Cleanliness
Tom, Rob, I'm 99% sure that the Minolta Dimâge Dual have no focussing lens inside. Here's two things I have done to improve sharpness in mine: Placed it on an old mouse mat to dampen vibreation, and then weighed it down with a few encyclopedia volumes. A couple of times a year, I use a compressed-gas duster with a long mouthpiece to blow off dust inside. With the APS-door open. -Don't really know what surfaces that gets dusted, but it seems to help. So far I have been happy with the Minolta... -but maybe it's just because I don't know better... Jostein - Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 8:15 AM Subject: Re: Scanner Cleanliness > On 21 Dec 2001 at 20:03, aimcompute wrote: > > > I'm wondering if there's a possibility that there is dust, dirt, film, etc. on > > the lens in the scanner (assuming one exists). The unit is about 3 years old. > > > > Any thoughts on whether I should take the cover off and have a look? > > Hi Tom, > > If you are handy that way and if the gear is well out of warranty I would take > a look inside. I haven't looked inside a Minolta Dimage Scan Dual however I > have had experience wit a few other scanners. It should certainly have a lens > and it might be suffering from the effect of a deposited film (often emitted > from the flame retardant and other additives in the plastics that make up the > unit) on the lens and/or mirror surfaces. This problem can be seen on many flat > bed scanners, even an Agfa Duoscan that I had needed to be cleaned straight out > of the box. > > The lens might be quite hard to reach unfortunately but in any case if you can > actually reach it without causing too much grief then clean it as you would any > other lens. Just remember that the electronic components can be static > discharge sensitive, particularly so unplugged modules. > > > Or is this an optical illusion? Just thinking... I find when I scan a neg > > and compare it to the print, it doesn't look bad. But when I scan a slide > > and see it large, it doesn't look as good. Is it possible that with negs > > I'm comparing basically 1-to-1's whereas with slides I'm comparing a small > > image with an enlarged one, and noticing a difference? > > I don't know if this relates to the sharpness scanner performance issue that > you mentioned or if it is a just a general feeling that you have but generally > you must consider the following: > > Prints are obviously a reflective media therefore the best white and black in > the print is relative to the quality of the paper, the exposure and the light > under which it is viewed (considering a perfect source neg). > > The contrast of most monitors and absolute white light level emitted is pretty > low but comparable to viewing a print on paper in a well lit office (for a good > computer set-up). Of course any scan is second generation (as is a print) > whereas the slide viewed through a loupe is first generation. So to be fair to > compare the quality of an image on a light box you really have to control the > white light output of the light box to match the max white on your monitor and > consider that you don't have the benefit of being able to view your negs on a > light box with inverted colour corrected vision :-) > > It's hard to beat a good slide on a good light box under a good loupe. > > Cheers, > Rob Studdert > HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA > Tel +61-2-9554-4110 > UTC(GMT) +10 Hours > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 50mm 1.2
Hi all, Arnold Stark wrote: > > I believe that the "SMC Pentax 1:1.2 50mm" is the later version of > the K50/f1.2 because the "mm" in the name of K series lenses exists > only for K series lenses that were still made while the M series > lenses were already there. Am I the only one who has noticed the different fonts on the different versions of the 50/1.2? I have only seen "SMC Pentax 1:1.2/50" written in the font of the K lenses and "SMC Pentax 1:1.2 50mm" with the font for the M lenses. I personally strongly prefer the M-series font. 3:-) Merry Christmas, Boz - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 50mm 1.2
Hi all, Alexander Krohe wrote: > > I think also lenses of the same generations may have > individual coatings. It is not unreasonable to think that lenses with different focal lengths also have slightly different SMC versions. Cheers, Boz - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
