Re: Re[2]: AF zoom?

2002-07-29 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk

on 28.07.02 0:04, Jacek Sokolowski at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 SP Take Pentax SMC-FA 28-70/4 AL - you can find one on e-bay for about 100$.
 
 yeah, I keep looking - but it seems quite hard to find where I am (i. e.
 in Germany). Only new ones for about 230 euro.
You must be patient - I have bought one for my girlfriend for 70 Eur.

 How about SMC Pentax-F 3,5-4,5/35-135 and Tamron AF 28-80/3,5-5,6 ASF
 or Sigma 28-105/ 3,8-5,6 UC III aspherical IF?
You can consider Sigma 28-135/3.8-5.6. I have bought one and I am quite
pleased with effects - that's not worse lens that 28-70/4, and I confirmed
it in many reviews in foto magazines (in French Chasseur d'Image it has got
the same rating as new Pentax 28-105/3.2-4.5, in German Color Foto it was
even slightly better that old 28-105 powerzoom, in Foto Magazin the same
rating as this Pentax...).

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Re: RE: FA 100mm f=2.8 Macro and macro ring light: Questions

2002-07-29 Thread Don Williams Finland

Hi all,

Some weeks ago I put some pictures of reflectors I've been using used for
macro-photography with flash on my web site. I've just put them back. The
bottom row are close-ups taken using the reflector contraption seen
attached to the P30T.

http://Personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/hold/index.htm

I've used a ring flash in the laboratory. In my experience the resulting
pictures are flat and uninteresting on the whole. For my purposes at the
time this was not a problem. I wanted detail and high resolution. Vic uses
extra reflectors to improve modelling. Why not start off with a couple of
pieces of aluminium, or even white cardboard, and see what the results are
like. Many of the close-ups on my website were taken with simple reflectors
made from, to start with, white cardboard, later covered with aluminium
foil. The latest version is made of aluminium and has two parts. The results
are satisfying and there is no need to worry about modelling, it comes with
the contraption. I added the lower piece - after a few rolls - to increase
shadow detail.

The first frame is a picture of the hemispherical sensor of a Seconic
Digilite F taken with the Sigma 50 mm F 2.8 macro of which I am inordinately
fond. It read a nice f 22. The reflection of the upper reflector and it's
wings can be seen clearly on the dome. This tells me that the angle of the
reflector is correct and the flash is being directed to the right place. In
practice, the light is quite diffuse and at 1:2 and 1:3 it still illuminates
the subject.

For a dollar you can make one yourself and save $449 for something else.
I used half millimetre aluminium sheet to keep the weight down. It's
attached to the flash by Velcro and still sags a bit. To get the angle right
(see pictures) the thing is bent up a bit to compensate for the weight.

Don

Dr E D F Williams

http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams
Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery
Updated: March 30, 2002


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Subject: Re: RE: FA 100mm f=2.8 Macro and macro ring light: Questions


 No they are in fact caused by ringlights. Ringlights, especially large
ones,
 are very popular right now with fashion photography. I do own the af080C
ring
 flash and use it with 100 and 90 mm macros. They are very good for
flowers,
 insects etc. I enjoy mine and use it quite a bit. Wouldn't sell it for
 anything. If that helps at all. The one you are looking at is newer and
 offers a little more flexibility in modelling the lighting. I sometimes
use a
 secondary flash or a bounce card to add modelling
 Vic
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Re: ZX-L (Was: Upgrading to auto focus

2002-07-29 Thread Lawrence Kwan

On Sun, 28 Jul 2002, Andrew Robinson wrote:
 This is probably an odd question. Is the spot metering usable?

It depends on how you use it.  As it is tied to AE-Lock, it would not work
in manual mode; it only works in aperture priority, shutter priority and
program modes.  And you cannot do spot metering continuously.  You have to
select the area, and press the button; and if you select a new area, you
have to press the button twice to get a new reading.

 A slightly braoder question: is there anything the ZX-5N can do that the
 ZX-L cannot, at least in some fashion?

ZX-5n can do center weighted metering for any lens (only older lens for
ZX-L).  ZX-5n can do continuous spot metering without pressing any
buttons.  ZX-5n also has panorama frame (I, for one, won't miss this
feature).

Some have complained the ZX-L's use of pentamirror instead of ZX-5n's
pentaprism.  I have been using MZ-7 (which has the same pentamirror
viewfinder as ZX-L) side by side with my Super A and ME Super (both
pentaprisms), and personally, I don't find it a problem at all.

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what is a good 20mm lens?

2002-07-29 Thread newbee

i have been thinking about the following
1. mir 20mm
2. pentax 20mm M
3. pentax fa 20mm
4. vivitar 20 mm 82mm filter
5. sogilor 20mm 58mm filter

1, 3,  5 are in the price range so what are the good and bad for both?

23 are pentax so are higher priced but i asume better quality optically
what is the difference between the two which is better
i dont care about autofocus

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Re: July PUG review from Cotty

2002-07-29 Thread Antti-Pekka Virjonen

At 10:44 28.7.2002 +0100, Cotty wrote:
Comet Ikeya-Zhang
Antti-Pekka Virjonen
Shots like this I assumed were always made with a camera bolted onto the 
end of a mountain-top telescope big enough to spot a Klingon's verrucas 
while he was on holiday enslaving a planet on the far side of the Delta 
Quadrant. The technical expertise that made this stunning shot humbles 
me, and I take my hat off (for there are many) to Antti-Pekka for 
achieving it. Awesome.

Thanks for you kind comments :-)

I'm back from the vacation (I'm still re-learning the keyboard ;-).
We were sailing in the Turku Archipelago area quite a lot...

Regarding the technical things of the mount:
I made the tracking mount myself a couple of years ago. It uses
a heavy duty Manfrotto tripod (triauto) and a 7 wormdrive on a 2 axle
on ball bearings. There is a Manfrotto heavy 3D head on the mount to take
the camera(s). The tracking is accurate enough to take 10-20 min photos
using the 300/2.8 lens without the stars starting to drift in the picture.
The stepper motor of the drive is driven by an embedded microcontroller system
(which I have designed/built/programmed as well).
Maybe I need to scan a photo of the system for everyone to see.

Antti-Pekka

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RE: LX + winder - problem!

2002-07-29 Thread HUDERER Bernd

Hi Ivan,

have a look at:
http://www.BDimitrov.de/kmp/extras/winder_LX/top.jpg

Try to carefully depress the pin shutter release ( from camera ).
If you can't do that at all, there is a mechanical fault in the winder. The
possible movement is only a small one but there has to be one. 
This part is normally depressed mechanical by the shutter release button of
the camera.
It closes inside the winder an electrical contact to battery minus which
starts the motor. 
It is located in the wiring diagram:
http://www.BDimitrov.de/kmp/extras/winder_LX/diagram.gif
near the remote socket.
The motor then raises the pin shutter release ( to camera ) and starts a
mechanical shutter release of the camera. If you press this one with a
needle, it will release the shutter.
If you depress the pin shutter release ( from camera ) with a multimeter
tip which is connected at the other side of the cable with K4 ( see circuit
diagram ), it should start the motor ( IIRC ). 
Will work of course only if the power switch is in position C or S.


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Re: ZX-L (Was: Upgrading to auto focus

2002-07-29 Thread Ayash Kanto Mukherjee

On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, Lawrence Kwan wrote:
 
 Some have complained the ZX-L's use of pentamirror instead of ZX-5n's
 pentaprism.  I have been using MZ-7 (which has the same pentamirror
 viewfinder as ZX-L) side by side with my Super A and ME Super (both
 pentaprisms), and personally, I don't find it a problem at all.

I don't have MZ-7/L but I have MZ-M which hase penta mirror arrangement. I 
also possess Ricoh XR-8 Super which has a pentaprism viewfinder. The 
viewfinder magnification of Ricoh is higher than MZ-M/7/L. The viewfinder 
of Ricoh looks bigger and brighter than MZ-M/7/L and 
I find it easier to focus on the subject when the image looks big and 
bright. It will depend from person to person but I am begining to like my 
Ricoh more than MZ-M. 

Cheers,
Ayash.
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Re: July PUG review from Cotty

2002-07-29 Thread Jostein

- Original Message - 
From: Antti-Pekka Virjonen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[description of tracking mount]
 Maybe I need to scan a photo of the system for everyone to see.

if you find time for that you'll make at least one man very grateful. :-)

Best,
Jostein
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Re: Vivitar 19mm?

2002-07-29 Thread Mark Roberts

John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Simon, and welcome to the list.
In the range 17/18-35, I have been very pleased with my Sigma 18-35, 
which preceded the 17-35, I think.  Very sharp, good contrast, and not 
too much distortion for a lens of this specification.

If anyone's interested in the Sigma 18-35 (manual focus) I still have mine for
sale. Mint condition with front and rear caps, box, packing and instructions.
$125.00


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RE: FS spotted in this week's AP

2002-07-29 Thread Rob Brigham

There is quite a bit of stuff on here, they must be getting rid of some
demo stuff - some interesting AF lenses in partular and a whole heap of
MZ-5s:

https://secure.ffordes.com/shop/Store/Index2.asp?Type=secdcode=PT

I also try and check the following regularly:

http://www.mxvphotographic.com/pentax_af.htm
And of course http://www.camera-direct.com/used.asp?js=true

 -Original Message-
 From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: 27 July 2002 13:34
 To: Pentax List
 Subject: FS spotted in this week's AP
 
 
 Shamed by Sunny Peter, here's a few things in this week's AP (UK):
 
 Pentax 645 manual focus complete (75mm lens) exc++ 375 GBP 
 instruction 
 manual films Tel 01673 828869
 
 Pentax LX X2 with 20mm f2.8 24mm f2.8 28mm f2.8 24-50 f4 
 100mm f4 macro 
 F.E.1 WLF magnifier M Hotshoe grip TL remote cord A AF 280 sold as 
 complete kit with many more extras some boxed 1500 GBP tel 
 01797 362269
 
 Pentax 600mm f5.6 SMC-A telephoto lens with xfour, rear 
 adaptor and APR 
 C-mount adaptor. Mint condition, cased 1750 GBP tel 01252 781350
 
 Pentax E1 200 boxed mint + 2 64MB + 1 32 MB cards 180 GBP tel  01132 
 823628 evenings
 
 and also, buried amongst a Nikon ad:
 
 ...Pentax 50m 1.2 (sic) 160 GBP ... all excl condition. ONO tel 01494 
 452959
 
 (must mean 50mm on that last one, but is it an f/1.2 or an 
 f/2 ? Must be 
 a K 1.2...)
 
 
 Cotty
 
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 Check out the UK Macintosh ads 
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RE: Re: Re; 20Mb drives

2002-07-29 Thread Paris, Leonard

Hi Doug,

The ones that I remember, that were used with PC's, actually had the name
Winchester emblazoned on the front (visible, since they were full height
drives).  I assume the company that built them was named Winchester, though
I don't remember if there was a link to the firearms manufacturer or not.
There well could have been.  Diversification was happening then, too.

73, Len
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From: Doug Franklin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 9:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Re: Re; 20Mb drives


On Sun, 28 Jul 2002 21:05:06 -0500, Len Paris wrote:

 Back in the 5MB drive days, they called them Winchesters.

Yep, but that term goes back to when that type of drive was developed
for big iron.  At least supposedly.  It could be an urban legend,
though.

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
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Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

2002-07-29 Thread Brad Dobo

I'll have to look into that.  Does this Tamrac item have a model number or
anything?  I'm afraid I don't have much to choose from here, so I'd have to
order it.  The only thing I know is I HATE the Pentax strap.

Regards,

Brad Dobo
- Original Message -
From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 12:49 AM
Subject: Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend


 On 28 Jul 2002 at 20:58, Brad Dobo wrote:

  I have to agree on that, my complaint with my old MZ-5N and now the MZ-S
is that
  stupid rewind button, I switch rolls often and need that damned Pentax
strap,
  although a wider more comfortable one would be nice.

 Hi Brad,

 I have Tamrac straps with QRs on all my cases and cameras now (except the
M6
 and LX) so I'm going to have to jerry rig another rewind button device to
clip
 onto the camera side of the QR since the straps get interchanged
regularly.
 This allows me to swap between short hand grips to grippy suade or soft
sheep
 skin straps.

 Cheers,

 Rob Studdert
 HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
 Tel +61-2-9554-4110
 UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
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RE: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

2002-07-29 Thread TM

Rob-
I think you'll find manual focus to be much better for action shots
of auto racing- focus on a point and shoot when the car comes into
frame.

Not having used AF SLRs much at all, one thing that would work if you
can focus lock on a particular spot but be able to easily override in
case a spectacular crash occurs or something like that where the AF will
help (depending on distances), although if you're stopped down enough,
it's
not going to be too bad if you're a tad off.

I never thought AF was all that great for motorsports, but I don't have
any AF cameras (other than PS). That is a very nice setup you have,
I want those lenses! :-)

Taka
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Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

2002-07-29 Thread Brad Dobo

Oh crap, this is going to sound stupid, but hey, it's early and I'm still
sleepingbut what is a key fob?

- Original Message -
From: John Mullan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 1:10 AM
Subject: Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend


 On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:49:26 +1000, Rob Studdert wrote:

 On 28 Jul 2002 at 20:58, Brad Dobo wrote:
 
  I have to agree on that, my complaint with my old MZ-5N and now the
MZ-S is that
  stupid rewind button, I switch rolls often and need that damned Pentax
strap,
  although a wider more comfortable one would be nice.
 
 Hi Brad,
 
 I have Tamrac straps with QRs on all my cases and cameras now (except the
M6
 and LX) so I'm going to have to jerry rig another rewind button device to
clip
 onto the camera side of the QR since the straps get interchanged
regularly.
 This allows me to swap between short hand grips to grippy suade or soft
sheep
 skin straps.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Rob Studdert
 HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
 Tel +61-2-9554-4110
 UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
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 Take one of the strap clips with the rewind teat and put it onto a key
fob,  keep it in your
 kit.

 jm
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MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

2002-07-29 Thread Steve Desjardins

Just out of curiosity, how did you focus the E-10?  I have found the AF
to be worse than the MZ-S, and the MF very hard because of the plain
screen.  And to ask the obvious question, does anyone know if those
using high end C or N have a better time using AF with motor
sports?
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Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

2002-07-29 Thread gfen

On Sun, 28 Jul 2002, Brad Dobo wrote:
 Heh...interesting, I have like 8 different Swiss Army knives and didn't
 think to include one in my camera gear.  They should have a 'photographer's'
 knife!

the Victronix or whatever it is (insight, if I pull it from my pocket,
I'll know: Victorinox) Tinker model is the key. It replaces the stupid
corkscrew with a phillips head screw driver, and the bottle opener works
perfectly on 35mm canisters (well, Kodak's at least).

The Super Tinker adds a scissors, which is also useful for cutting off
film from reels. :)

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Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

2002-07-29 Thread Rfsindg

 Oh crap, this is going to sound stupid, but hey, it's early and I'm still
 sleepingbut what is a key fob?  

Look at your spare keys.  The ones you have in a drawer.  Are they on a ring? 
 Does the ring have something else attached to it?  ...A bit of metal or 
colored plastic so you can easily find it.  That's a key fob.  

Regards,  Bob S.
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Re[2]: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

2002-07-29 Thread Bob Walkden

Hi,

 It replaces the stupid corkscrew

sounds to me like you've got your priorities all wrong... g

---

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Monday, July 29, 2002, 1:23:24 PM, you wrote:

 On Sun, 28 Jul 2002, Brad Dobo wrote:
 Heh...interesting, I have like 8 different Swiss Army knives and didn't
 think to include one in my camera gear.  They should have a 'photographer's'
 knife!

 the Victronix or whatever it is (insight, if I pull it from my pocket,
 I'll know: Victorinox) Tinker model is the key. It replaces the stupid
 corkscrew with a phillips head screw driver, and the bottle opener works
 perfectly on 35mm canisters (well, Kodak's at least).

 The Super Tinker adds a scissors, which is also useful for cutting off
 film from reels. :)
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RE: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

2002-07-29 Thread TM

Those Tamrac straps are nice- I have two myself.

Taka
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Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

2002-07-29 Thread Brad Dobo

Heh...ok, thanks...now I feel really dumb :)

Brad Dobo
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend


  Oh crap, this is going to sound stupid, but hey, it's early and I'm
still
  sleepingbut what is a key fob?  

 Look at your spare keys.  The ones you have in a drawer.  Are they on a
ring?
  Does the ring have something else attached to it?  ...A bit of metal or
 colored plastic so you can easily find it.  That's a key fob.

 Regards,  Bob S.
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RE: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

2002-07-29 Thread TM

I've used an N90S but I still think MF is the way to go for
motorsports due to the difficulty in getting the focus point
just right for action shots. Just MHO.

Taka

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Steve Desjardins
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 8:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend


Just out of curiosity, how did you focus the E-10?  I have found the AF
to be worse than the MZ-S, and the MF very hard because of the plain
screen.  And to ask the obvious question, does anyone know if those
using high end C or N have a better time using AF with motor
sports?
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Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

2002-07-29 Thread Brad Dobo

One thing surprises me here, I have been told by camera store employees,
Nikon and Canon user, that the Pentax AF system beats everything hand down.
However, so many of you focus manually (and so do I, when I have to in macro
or telephoto)  I have a very easy time with AF, and with the MZ-S, it's even
easier!

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Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

2002-07-29 Thread ERNReed

In a message dated 7/28/2002 10:48:00 PM Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 Heh...interesting, I have like 8 different Swiss Army knives and didn't
 think to include one in my camera gear.  They should have a 
 'photographer's'
 knife!
 

Maybe they do: 

A 
HREF=http://members.aol.com/greenfalc1/knife.jpg;http://members.aol.com/greenfalc1/knife.jpg/A
 

(front  back sides of the same knife -- that's what it really looks like)

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Re: Macro question

2002-07-29 Thread Rfsindg

Jason,
Yes, a viewfinder cover is a good idea too.  
I've had the same problem, but it didn't occur to mention it.
Regards,  Bob S.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Ok,
 I feel a bit stupid.  There is a long story that leads to the solution that
 I won't bore you with, but the long and short is that I was not using (and
 didn't know I should be using) a viewfinder cover when taking these shots.
 Light leakage into the viewfinder was causing the underexposure.  -  Problem
 solved.  
 Note to self - use viewfinder cover if eyeball not in 
 viewfinder.
 J
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Re: White button on manual lenses...

2002-07-29 Thread Rfsindg

Heinko,
No other purpose or function to the little white bump.
It is there to help you locate the mounting point by feel, in the dark.
It was on K, M and A lenses.  They function perfectly without one.
...but finding a replacement is problematic.
Regards,  Bob S.

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 I've seen a K4/200, where the little white button on the side of the  
 lens is missing. The only purpose of this button that I know is to help  
 fitting the lens to the body (lining up the white button with the  
 release catch on the body mounting). But is this the only purpose or is  
 there anthing else? And - more important - is it a problem 
 if the button  
 is missing?
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Re[2]: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

2002-07-29 Thread Cotty

t replaces the stupid corkscrew

sounds to me like you've got your priorities all wrong... g

I'll drink to that!

Regarding Rob not having anything on him to depress a recessed button - 
Rob, use your wit, it's plenty sharp!

:-)

Cot

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Re: White button on manual lenses...

2002-07-29 Thread Sas Gabor

Hi,

On 29 Jul 2002 at 17:01, Heiko Hamann wrote:
 I've seen a K4/200, where the little white button on the side of the  
 lens is missing. The only purpose of this button that I know is to help  
 fitting the lens to the body (lining up the white button with the  
 release catch on the body mounting). But is this the only purpose or is  
 there anthing else? 

This is the only one.

 And - more important - is it a problem if the button  
 is missing?

No. (Lowers lens price a bit...)


Gabor
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Re: Macro question

2002-07-29 Thread Christian Skofteland

On Monday 29 July 2002 09:54, Vick, Jason wrote:
 Ok,
 I feel a bit stupid.  There is a long story that leads to the solution that
 I won't bore you with, but the long and short is that I was not using (and
 didn't know I should be using) a viewfinder cover when taking these shots.
 Light leakage into the viewfinder was causing the underexposure.  - 
 Problem solved.
 Note to self - use viewfinder cover if eyeball not in viewfinder.
 J


This is why the LX ;-) makes such a great macro camera.  The OTF meter makes 
viewfinder blinds superfluous.  Add to that TTL flash and various prisms and 
you have a great system.  

I just recieved a Super Program and have not had time to try it out yet.  
Should make some interesting comparisons to the LX.

Christian
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Re: White button on manual lenses...

2002-07-29 Thread Heiko Hamann

Hi Bob,

on 29 Jul 02 you wrote in pentax.list:

No other purpose or function to the little white bump.
It is there to help you locate the mounting point by feel, in the dark.
It was on K, M and A lenses.  They function perfectly without one.

Thanks. So the K4/200 will get mine!

...but finding a replacement is problematic.

Let's have a look for some scrap lenses...;-)

Regards, Heiko
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The Zone System - OT

2002-07-29 Thread Francis Alviar

One of our local community colleges is offering a
class on the zone system.  How many members have taken
a class similar to this and would you recommend it?

Is it worth taking the class?

Thanks.


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Re: White button on manual lenses...

2002-07-29 Thread William Kane

Heiko,

The white zone is for loading and unloading only . . .


. . . ooops, The white BUTTON is only to aid the photographer in finding 
the correct orientation of the lens.  Several people on the list have 
had lenses that somehow lost the little white button.  I believe the fix 
(if you are into asthetics) is to find yourself a junk lens from the 
same series (in this case the K series) and salvage the button from that 
lens.  Otherwise, thre's not much of a use to it.

IL Bill

Heiko Hamann wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I've seen a K4/200, where the little white button on the side of the  
 lens is missing. The only purpose of this button that I know is to help  
 fitting the lens to the body (lining up the white button with the  
 release catch on the body mounting). But is this the only purpose or is  
 there anthing else? And - more important - is it a problem if the button  
 is missing?
 
 Regards, Heiko
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Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

2002-07-29 Thread Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce)

With what lens? 50/1.4 or something with lots of heavy glass elements? With the amount 
of current available from a pair of CR2 batteries there is no way for the AF motor to 
drive lots of large glass elements quickly. With Canon and Nikon you can also buy 
lenses with the motor in the lens for even better AF performance. Of course, if you 
only use physically small lenses this probably doesn't matter.

From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well, according to Foto Magazin tests AF in MZ-S is only slower than F5 and
EOS1V...
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Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

2002-07-29 Thread Brad Dobo

I'm a collector of sorts when it comes to Victorinox knives.  They do not
have a photographers knife, like they do for camping, angling, trailmaster,
electrican, etc, etc.  (I ask and suggested they design one) Of course,
companies, Kodak in the case of your link, usually put their corporate
markings on them and give 'em away.  I've got a few Zippo knives that have
corporate logos on them.
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend


 In a message dated 7/28/2002 10:48:00 PM Central Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


  Heh...interesting, I have like 8 different Swiss Army knives and didn't
  think to include one in my camera gear.  They should have a
  'photographer's'
  knife!
 

 Maybe they do:

 A
HREF=http://members.aol.com/greenfalc1/knife.jpg;http://members.aol.com/gr
eenfalc1/knife.jpg/A

 (front  back sides of the same knife -- that's what it really looks like)

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Re: July PUG review from Cotty

2002-07-29 Thread Cotty

 [re: After the Fall] ... this oft-seen, but rarely 
 recorded moment between parent and child.

I thought I'd comment on this observation, because I think I know why it's 
rarely recorded. In a moment like this, I suppose a parent's first instinct 
is to rush over and getting involved. But I at the time was 5-days post-op 
from having all my wisdom teeth out, and on Vicodin, and therefore in the 
peculiar mindset of looking from a distance to decide the situation is under 
control and doesn't need me, raise camera and lens that I was demonstrating 
to a fellow Pentaxer, shoot picture, hope the guys forgive me.
And since they both like the photo, I guess they forgave me.

Eleanor's comments are well-founded. She is absolutely right that a 
parent's natural reaction is to aid the child, and had she been the only 
adult present, she would have, as I would have, attended the crisis. As 
it was, the crisis was apparently under control, and in the event, she 
did what I would have done, and aimed a camera. Completely agree with the 
sentiments you express, Eleanor. Well done. It really is a cracking shot.

Cot

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Re: Prints from slides(unmounted)

2002-07-29 Thread Bruce Dayton

David,

I've had lots of prints made from slides.  The only time I was sorely
disappointed was when the Fuji Pictrostat process was used.  And the
reply was similar.  I believe there is not much control of it.

I have usually used an outfit in Denver called The Slideprinter.  They
use a direct process and do pretty good work at a very reasonable
price.  If they have a problem with a slide it is usually due to
excessive contrast.

Nowadays, the printing machines (Fuji Frontier, Agfa D-Lab) have
attached scanners and they actually print digitally but with a wet
print process.  When operated correctly, they do a good job.  If you
can find a lab with one of those, you would be much better off.

My opinion of the Epson 2450 scanner was that MF scanning was also not
that good.  I'm sure the smaller 35mm neg looks even worse, but I
found that the MF stuff wasn't as sharp as a wet print or a high-res
scan from my lab.  Boy do I have a hankerin' for a reasonable priced
MF film scanner!


Bruce



Monday, July 29, 2002, 8:17:50 AM, you wrote:

DB Following up on a thread i had last month
DB about printing from slide film,I found a local
DB 1 hour chain has a machine to print from slide film
DB on 4x6 5x7 and 8x10 with out haveing to do the 
DB interneg(so told to me)at the main store south of
DB were i live.
DB I had them do 2 test prints(i gave the negs to the
DB outlet were i live and they sent them down for me)
DB Both came back reversed and fuzzy.However when i look
DB at the image both by eye and a 55mm f1.8 as a loupe,
DB they appear nice and crisp on the neg strip.
DB When i mentioned they looked bad,her comment was,with
DB positive images there is no room to play,you get what
DB you get.
DB I feel if the image on the strip is clean,the print should 
DB be too,correct.Almost looks like they printed it with the
DB plastic sleeve on.

DB Comments from the slide print folk please.I like the look
DB of the slide image,but if i cannot print out a good 35mm
DB print,not much use to me then.(Epson 2450 does not scan 35 well)
DB However the 120 6x6's are better scanned.

DB Dave


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Re: Prints from slides(unmounted)

2002-07-29 Thread Brian Campbell (pm)

I haven't had great luck with 4x6 prints from slides 
either.  Good sharpness, but the colors/contrast has
never been great.  I've had great success with Fujichrome 
prints, 11 x 14's from 35mm slides look stunning (they're 
hand printed, tho - a bit costly but the results are totally
worth it).

Most of the time I've just had the slides scanned
and print them myself.  A roll of slides batch scanned isn't 
too costly, I think the lab I use charges me $20 per roll,
this includes CD.  The scans turn out to be 2000 x 3000
pixels, which I've printed great looking 8x10's and
decent 11x14's.

You're right though, a sharp neg (or slide) should 
result in a sharp print.  As far as colors and exposure
goes, what you see is what you get.

Cheers!
Brian

 

On 29 Jul 2002 at 11:17, David Brooks wrote:

 Following up on a thread i had last month
 about printing from slide film,I found a local
 1 hour chain has a machine to print from slide film
 on 4x6 5x7 and 8x10 with out haveing to do the 
 interneg(so told to me)at the main store south of
 were i live.
 I had them do 2 test prints(i gave the negs to the
 outlet were i live and they sent them down for me)
 Both came back reversed and fuzzy.However when i look
 at the image both by eye and a 55mm f1.8 as a loupe,
 they appear nice and crisp on the neg strip.
 When i mentioned they looked bad,her comment was,with
 positive images there is no room to play,you get what
 you get.
 I feel if the image on the strip is clean,the print should 
 be too,correct.Almost looks like they printed it with the
 plastic sleeve on.
 
 Comments from the slide print folk please.I like the look
 of the slide image,but if i cannot print out a good 35mm
 print,not much use to me then.(Epson 2450 does not scan 35 well)
 However the 120 6x6's are better scanned.
 
 Dave
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OT: Writings on The Wall

2002-07-29 Thread RK

Would anyone know if the entire text of the Wall is available on the
web?
I'm looking for some material I'd read years ago and now keeps coming
back in bits and pieces.
I do recall it wasn't formal poetry but a snippet from a soldiers'
diary. Very basic and VERY touching.
Have tried Google but until I get a little more specific, this doesn't
work.

Thanks for reading.
RK
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Pentax glass in Boston

2002-07-29 Thread Mishka

Hi:
If anyone in Boston area is interested, I have spotted this Sunday at
BWHunt's photo (Melrose store)

SMCK 200/2.5, $299
SMCK 300/4, $650 (?) and
VS1, 70-210/3.5, $99

BTW, does anyone know how good is that VS1 zoom?

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Re[2]: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

2002-07-29 Thread Bob Walkden

Hi,

 They do not have a photographers knife, like they do for camping, angling, 
trailmaster,
 electrican, etc, etc.

It's because they can't stand the thought of all those fecking thruds
entitled Which is sharper: Victorinox or Leatherman?

---

 Bob  

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Monday, July 29, 2002, 5:46:41 PM, you wrote:

 I'm a collector of sorts when it comes to Victorinox knives.  They do not
 have a photographers knife, like they do for camping, angling, trailmaster,
 electrican, etc, etc.  (I ask and suggested they design one) Of course,
 companies, Kodak in the case of your link, usually put their corporate
 markings on them and give 'em away.  I've got a few Zippo knives that have
 corporate logos on them.
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Re: OT: Next TOPDML/TOPUG ? (was: RE: Re: Update,Ontario Poster Order)

2002-07-29 Thread Brendan

ok this one I can't miss :-)

--- David Chang-Sang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Oo
 
 You DO know what's on Aug 10 and 11th don't you ? 
 :-)

http://www.thebeerstore.ca/festivals/festivals-toronto.html
 
 I vote for Old Fort York as our meeting place for
 next month !!
 
 Yippee !!
 
 Cheers,
 Dave
 Pentax User and Beer Renter
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 David Brooks
 Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 10:50 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Re: Update,Ontario Poster Order
 
 
 Good idea Frank:)
 Aug 10/11 is the only free weekend i have in
 August.
 I hope to have my Markham Fair entries in order
 by early Aug,for a run to Aarons place.
 He's still with us,SAY'S hes busy:)
 
 Dave
 Dave
  Begin Original Message 
 
 From: frank theriault
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 06:18:21 -0400
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Update,Ontario Poster Order
 
 
 Hey, Dave,
 
 Tell Brad you can't mail it out to him, but he
 has to pick it up from
 you personally.  That'll be an excuse for a
 topdml meet!  ;-)
 
 Seriously, Brad, let us know next time you
 breeze into Toronto.  A bunch
 of us get together on a semi-regular basis to
 walk around like geeks
 with cameras around our necks, then sit down
 for beer, and talk about
 it.  Or, like last time, have the beer first,
 then walk around.
 
 regards,
 frank
 
 David Brooks wrote:
 
  Hi Brad.Thought you might be in the area with
 a
  rogers email addy.
 
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OT: Advice on used Leica M2?

2002-07-29 Thread Kristian Walsh

Hi,

I know this is almost completely non-Pentax(*), but I know there are a 
few Leica M users lurking here, so here's the question:

Is €250 (~$250) a good price for a working M2, or is it too good to be 
true? Cosmetically, the body is quite battered: the leather cover is a 
bit torn, the top plate is quite brassy, and there are several dents. 
The body comes with a 35/f2.5 Summaron lens, and the body serial number 
is around 106,900.

I've popped the shutter and 1/4 and 1/1000, and seems to work. Anything 
else to look for?

I don't want this to collect - I just like the idea of a compact, quiet, 
35mm camera that I could bring around with me.

Website addresses also gratefully received.
--
Kristian

(*) A desparate attempt to bring this post back on topic: has anyone 
ever seen the Pentax 43mm in M mount?
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Re: Re: Prints from slides(unmounted)

2002-07-29 Thread David Brooks

Thanks Brian  Bruce.I thought i should be able 
to get something decent.
The two samples i did looked flat and out of 
focus,however the colours and contrast on the slide
look great when viewed by eye and loupe.
I'll have to see if i can find a lab with one of those
machines Bruce.The lab near the office, 
that does 120 and E-6 proccesing, said they
can do a 4x6 from the slide but anything bigger ,or 120
slide,they need to do an interneg.
Might give that a try and see what the results are like.

Dave

 Begin Original Message 

From: Brian Campbell (pm) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:21:57 -0700
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Prints from slides(unmounted)


I haven't had great luck with 4x6 prints from slides 
either.  Good sharpness, but the colors/contrast has
never been great.  I've had great success with Fujichrome 
prints, 11 x 14's from 35mm slides look stunning (they're 
hand printed, tho - a bit costly but the results are totally
worth it).

Most of the time I've just had the slides scanned
and print them myself.  A roll of slides batch scanned isn't 
too costly, I think the lab I use charges me $20 per roll,
this includes CD.  The scans turn out to be 2000 x 3000
pixels, which I've printed great looking 8x10's and
decent 11x14's.

You're right though, a sharp neg (or slide) should 
result in a sharp print.  As far as colors and exposure
goes, what you see is what you get.

Cheers!
Brian

 

On 29 Jul 2002 at 11:17, David Brooks wrote:

 Following up on a thread i had last month
 about printing from slide film,I found a local
 1 hour chain has a machine to print from slide film
 on 4x6 5x7 and 8x10 with out haveing to do the 
 interneg(so told to me)at the main store south of
 were i live.
 I had them do 2 test prints(i gave the negs to the
 outlet were i live and they sent them down for me)
 Both came back reversed and fuzzy.However when i look
 at the image both by eye and a 55mm f1.8 as a loupe,
 they appear nice and crisp on the neg strip.
 When i mentioned they looked bad,her comment was,with
 positive images there is no room to play,you get what
 you get.
 I feel if the image on the strip is clean,the print should 
 be too,correct.Almost looks like they printed it with the
 plastic sleeve on.
 
 Comments from the slide print folk please.I like the look
 of the slide image,but if i cannot print out a good 35mm
 print,not much use to me then.(Epson 2450 does not scan 35 well)
 However the 120 6x6's are better scanned.
 
 Dave
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Re: Prints from slides(unmounted)

2002-07-29 Thread Robert Woerner

Find a shop with a Frontier machine and the staff who know how to use it. 
I've gotten excellent prints this way. The Fujichrome process is also quite 
good but, as you stated, more costly.

Robert


From: David Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Prints from slides(unmounted)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:17:50 -0400

Following up on a thread i had last month
about printing from slide film,I found a local
1 hour chain has a machine to print from slide film
on 4x6 5x7 and 8x10 with out haveing to do the
interneg(so told to me)at the main store south of
were i live.
I had them do 2 test prints(i gave the negs to the
outlet were i live and they sent them down for me)
Both came back reversed and fuzzy.However when i look
at the image both by eye and a 55mm f1.8 as a loupe,
they appear nice and crisp on the neg strip.
When i mentioned they looked bad,her comment was,with
positive images there is no room to play,you get what
you get.
I feel if the image on the strip is clean,the print should
be too,correct.Almost looks like they printed it with the
plastic sleeve on.

Comments from the slide print folk please.I like the look
of the slide image,but if i cannot print out a good 35mm
print,not much use to me then.(Epson 2450 does not scan 35 well)
However the 120 6x6's are better scanned.

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Re: Re[2]: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

2002-07-29 Thread ERNReed

In a message dated 7/29/2002 12:29:21 PM Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
(quoting someone else, I think, whose post did not reach me on its own):

  I'm a collector of sorts when it comes to Victorinox knives.  They do not
  have a photographers knife, like they do for camping, angling, 
 trailmaster,
  electrican, etc, etc.  (I ask and suggested they design one) Of course,
  companies, Kodak in the case of your link, usually put their corporate
  markings on them and give 'em away.

Well, yeah, I *know* it's just a standard Swiss Army Classic with a Kodak 
logo. 
Although I might point out that it *does* have a toothpick which could 
activitate the rewind button. Isn't that how penknives came into this?
Probably the comment I should have made with the link is: Maybe they already 
think they have one.

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RE: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

2002-07-29 Thread Paris, Leonard

And that pretty much fits in with my experience, too. The PZ-1p, a camera
that many folks love to hate, is very comparable in autofocus capabilities
to the N90s. I've owned both cameras and only the PZ-1p has remained with
me. The PZ-1p controls will let you do most anything with your right hand
and never make you drop the camera from your eye.  Much of what the PZ-1p
has built in you can only get by buying the MF-26 data back for the N90s,
though the MF-26 does add some capabilities that the PZ-1p does not have.
The MF-26 costs a pretty penny, too.  I bought a like-new one for $180US,
when I had the N90s.

Len
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From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 8:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

Well, according to Foto Magazin tests AF in MZ-S is only slower than F5 and
EOS1V...

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RE: Advice on used Leica M2?

2002-07-29 Thread Lukasz Kacperczyk

Sorry, sounds too good to be true (unless you from a phorographer's wife who
decided he's got too many cameras :) . I guess the lens alone (if it's in
good condition) is worth that money (or more). If the lens is OK I'd go for
it. As far as the camera is concerned - check if the shutter curtains have
no pinholes in them, if the viewfinder is clear and bright, and the
rangefinder patch even brighter than the rest of the viewfinder, and don't
forget to check ALL speeds.

Did you say $250? I guess that even if you add the cost of a CLA it's a good
deal :) Just make sure there's nothing unrepairable.

Good luck with your purchase.

Lukasz

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Behalf Of Kristian Walsh
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 7:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: Advice on used Leica M2?


Hi,

I know this is almost completely non-Pentax(*), but I know there are a
few Leica M users lurking here, so here's the question:

Is €250 (~$250) a good price for a working M2, or is it too good to be
true? Cosmetically, the body is quite battered: the leather cover is a
bit torn, the top plate is quite brassy, and there are several dents.
The body comes with a 35/f2.5 Summaron lens, and the body serial number
is around 106,900.

I've popped the shutter and 1/4 and 1/1000, and seems to work. Anything
else to look for?

I don't want this to collect - I just like the idea of a compact, quiet,
35mm camera that I could bring around with me.

Website addresses also gratefully received.
--
Kristian

(*) A desparate attempt to bring this post back on topic: has anyone
ever seen the Pentax 43mm in M mount?
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RE: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

2002-07-29 Thread Paris, Leonard

Now, if we could only get one that says Pentax instead of Kodak.  Does
anyone here have any connections wih the company that makes the knives?

Len
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I

Maybe they do: 

A
HREF=http://members.aol.com/greenfalc1/knife.jpg;http://members.aol.com/gr
eenfalc1/knife.jpg/A 

(front  back sides of the same knife -- that's what it really looks like)

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Popular photography

2002-07-29 Thread Brendan

It was a fluke actually, I was out shooting with it
and some other photohog told me to email popphoto
since they were looking to see what tripods amateurs
used. So I did and they called me, spoke to me on the
phone for a few min and asked me to send them an email
answering some questions, done and I still haven't
seen the August issue as yet.

Brendan,

So were you the one featured in the August Pop
Photography extolling
the virtues of the Slik 700 tripod?  How very cool. 
Tell us how you
managed that.


Bruce


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RE: OT: Advice on used Leica M2?

2002-07-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

$250 US with lens is a VERY good price for a used M2 - Even if it is a
user system.

Check the Lens (of course) and ensure that there isn't any haze or fungus
on any of the elements. Hold it up in the light and take a look at it
closely to see if you can see any spots.

You probably should get a CLA done (just because it's already SO
inexpensive for the whole camera) - that should run you about $250 US (or
less) - last time I checked, an M6 CLA up here in Canada was $400 CDN.

Remember, no meter so have your hand meter handy...

Now.. if this was the LUG... and you asked a question about a Pentax item..
you do realise what would happen don't you ? :-) 
But here we're far more tolerant (specially if the equipment is as well
built as the M series are) :-)

Cheers,
Dave


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From: Kristian Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:37:09 +0100
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: Advice on used Leica M2?


Hi,

I know this is almost completely non-Pentax(*), but I know there are a 
few Leica M users lurking here, so here's the question:

Is €250 (~$250) a good price for a working M2, or is it too good to be 
true? Cosmetically, the body is quite battered: the leather cover is a 
bit torn, the top plate is quite brassy, and there are several dents. 
The body comes with a 35/f2.5 Summaron lens, and the body serial number 
is around 106,900.

I've popped the shutter and 1/4 and 1/1000, and seems to work. Anything 
else to look for?

I don't want this to collect - I just like the idea of a compact, quiet, 
35mm camera that I could bring around with me.

Website addresses also gratefully received.
--
Kristian

(*) A desparate attempt to bring this post back on topic: has anyone 
ever seen the Pentax 43mm in M mount?
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RE: The Zone System - OT

2002-07-29 Thread Paris, Leonard

It would depend on the individual class and the instructor.  Also, it would
depend on how much effort that you put into it.  Without actually attending,
I couldn't say one way or the other.  The zone system is most effective when
you can implement it from both the camera and the printing process.  It
can't hurt to increase your awareness and knowledge of the zone system, even
if you don't fully use it.  Remember, a trip to the library is free and can
give you a lot of knowledge, if you read and practice a lot.

Len
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To: Pentax Discuss List
Subject: The Zone System - OT


One of our local community colleges is offering a
class on the zone system.  How many members have taken
a class similar to this and would you recommend it?

Is it worth taking the class?

Thanks.


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Re: Re[2]: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

2002-07-29 Thread gfen

On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Although I might point out that it *does* have a toothpick which could
 activitate the rewind button. Isn't that how penknives came into this?
 Probably the comment I should have made with the link is: Maybe they already
 think they have one.

Actually, it was me who said I always use the awl on my knife. I thought
everyone lost the toothpick within the first week of ownership.


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Re: Need a new digital camera, what now?

2002-07-29 Thread Pål Jensen

Max wrote:
 Pål wrote:
 Huh? You don't find it promising that they will manufacture a digital slr
 that doesn't cost $7000?
 Their own words:
  Additionally, the knowledge and experience we have gained through
  development of the six-megapixel SLR concept will be used in developing
  other SLR-type digital cameras, which we expect will be priced more
  competitively, will address consumer needs more directly, and will be
  brought to the market in a more timely manner.
 
 So what may we glean from all this:
 Forget a DSLR based on anything the opposition has.


Huh? I think it says the opposite. Make something more like what the competition have. 
Nobody have a $7000 full frame digital slr so Pentax doesn't bother either. The Contax 
is apparently a disaster anyway. 


 Expect a radical new body with redesigned lenses to match.


Huh? I think it says that they will used the basic platform of the shelved 6Mp digital 
slr.


 Don't expect it any time soon.


I believe it's  says that they will make sure that it is put to the market at a time 
when it is competitive as opposed to a 6mp slr that cost three times as much as other 
6mp slr. This could mean anytime. 

 Don't expect it to be up to professional standards.


I don't think what the consumer wants means no professional standards. It means 
something that sell because it is competitive. 
 

Pål
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FA645 33-55/4.5 AL

2002-07-29 Thread Pål Jensen

The lens arrived today. Some initial impressions:

- It is a plastic lens. This explains it's low weight (which is why I bought it). It's 
built is quite similar to the FA645 75/2.8. As plastic zoom lenses go It's great; 
built like a Canon 2.8 zoom. 

- They have used a very wide filter diametre (82mm) although they could probably have 
gotten away with 67mm. This is great and as opposed to the 45/2.8 and the 45-85 zoom, 
this lens can use polarizers without vignetting. When using the Cokin P system you may 
need to file off the outermost filter slot when using the widest setting on the lens; 
not the two outermost slots like when using most other superwides. 

- Zooming is very smooth. In fact, it's the best zooming action I've experienced on 
any modern AF zoom lens. Manual focusing is good as well.  

- Surprisingly, I find the zoom range to be somehwat limited. I thought that 20-35 (in 
35mm terms) would be experienced as large. To be frank, I suspect Pentax have cheated 
us on both extremes on the focal length range. Or perhaps it's me being fooled by the 
aspect ratio differences between the 35mm format, being more rectangular, and the 
6X4,5 format being more square. A 35mm image would be wider than a 6X4,5 image with 
the same angle of view, wouldn't it?

- I have no idea about it's optical quality yet. Unfortunately it will take awhile 
before I know as it takes 2,5 - 3 weeks to get E-6 films processed where I live.

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Re[2]: Digital doubts

2002-07-29 Thread Peter Alling

I have a couple hundred zip disks and have only had 2 screw up in five 
years.  based on my
experience I don't think that you really should worry about zip disk 
problems,  the real
difficulties were from early production.  However no matter how wasteful it 
seems at about
a dollar per CD-R even if you use one a day the cost for backup materials 
is about $360.00
a year.  This seems a small price to pay for data integrity. If it really 
bothers someone to
waste 600+ meg. of storage to insure that the 10 - 20K of irreplaceable 
data is saved you can
spend a bit more and buy credit card sized CD-R's which hold only about 20 
meg. of data, a smaller
waste of storage but...

At 10:07 AM 7/27/2002 -0700, you wrote:
 What is the best system currently for backing up small amount of
business stuff frequently (i.e. everyday). My girlfriends office was broken
into, they stole the computer, and the secretary had not backed up anything
in over a month. They need to back up daily about 10 - 20 K (yes, K!) of
data. It seems rather wasteful to use cd's, and zip diskd are so notoriously
unreliable that I wouldn't recommend them to my worst enemy.  Are tape
drives still in use? Floppies? Taking pictures of each screen with a K2 and
a supertak 50mm f1.2 onto Kodachrome 25? Any suggestions...


C
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Re: Digital doubts

2002-07-29 Thread Peter Alling

You can usually find full size CR-R's for a lower per unit price than floppies
and from my experience Floppies go south much more often than any other storage
media that I've worked with.  The ANSI standard for longevity of a floppy is
6 mos. of service, if I remember correctly, (that's 6 months of guaranteed 
data
integrity whether used or not.

At 04:41 PM 7/27/2002 -0400, you wrote:
Cameron,
At only 10-20K to back-up every day, why use anything but a floppy?
The bigger issue is whether to put a week or month on each back-up floppy,
and where to put the floppies so they aren't stolen along with the computer!
Regards,  Bob S.

   Cameron Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   What is the best system currently for backing up small amount of
   business stuff frequently (i.e. everyday). My girlfriends office was
broken
   into, they stole the computer, and the secretary had not backed up
anything
   in over a month. They need to back up daily about 10 - 20 K (yes, K!) of
   data. It seems rather wasteful to use cd's, and zip diskd are so
notoriously
   unreliable that I wouldn't recommend them to my worst enemy. 
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Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

2002-07-29 Thread Fred

 One thing surprises me here, I have been told by camera store
 employees, Nikon and Canon user, that the Pentax AF system beats
 everything hand down.

 I'm surprised you heard that -- where IS this camera store with
 the enlightened employees?

It's the Pentax USA outlet at Englewood - g.

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Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

2002-07-29 Thread Fred

 With the amount of current available from a pair of CR2 batteries
 there is no way for the AF motor to drive lots of large glass
 elements quickly.

Hmmm...  Does that mean that an autofocus body with a AA grip might
sometimes focus a bit more rapidly than the same body with CR2's ???

Fred
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Re: Pentax glass in Boston

2002-07-29 Thread Fred

 If anyone in Boston area is interested, I have spotted this Sunday at
 BWHunt's photo (Melrose store)

 SMCK 200/2.5, $299

Hey, coincidence! - Hunt's is where I bought my own K 200/2.5 a
couple of years ago, the only lens I've ever bought from Hunt's.

 SMCK 300/4, $650 (?) and

That seems like ~much~ too much for a K 300/4.  Good lens, bad
price.

 VS1, 70-210/3.5, $99

 BTW, does anyone know how good is that VS1 zoom?

The answer sort of depends on ~which~ VS1 70-210/3.5 it is - the
first-generation with 67mm filter threads or the second-generation
with 62mm threads.  Actually, it sort of ~doesn't~ matter too much
which, since they are both pretty good, although quite different.
The price is not too bad, assuming that the lens is in good shape.

Fred
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Re: Macro question

2002-07-29 Thread Fred

 This is why the LX ;-) makes such a great macro camera.  The OTF
 meter makes  viewfinder blinds superfluous.  Add to that TTL flash
 and various prisms and  you have a great system.  I just recieved
 a Super Program and have not had time to try it out yet.   Should
 make some interesting comparisons to the LX.

Of course, your new SP will also have the TTL flash (and DOF
preview) like the LX ;-) and will also make a good macro rig, too,
but don't forget that viewfinder blind for the SP... g.

Fred
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Re: The Zone System - OT

2002-07-29 Thread Bill Owens

Ansels Adams' book The Negative explains it very well.

Bill  KG4LOV
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 One of our local community colleges is offering a
 class on the zone system.  How many members have taken
 a class similar to this and would you recommend it?
 
 Is it worth taking the class?
 
 Thanks.
 
 
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 Irvine, CA
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Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

2002-07-29 Thread Bill Owens

It just so happens that I have in my grubby little paws, a Swiss Army Style
knife with rosewood handles that has Pentax engraved on one side.

Bill  KG4LOV
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From: Paris, Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 1:56 PM
Subject: RE: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend


 Now, if we could only get one that says Pentax instead of Kodak.  Does
 anyone here have any connections wih the company that makes the knives?

 Len
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 Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:24 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend


 I

 Maybe they do:

 A

HREF=http://members.aol.com/greenfalc1/knife.jpg;http://members.aol.com/gr
 eenfalc1/knife.jpg/A

 (front  back sides of the same knife -- that's what it really looks like)

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Re: Need a new digital camera, what now?

2002-07-29 Thread Michael Nosal

At 08:16 PM 7/29/02 +0200, Pål wrote:

I don't think what the consumer wants means no professional standards. It 
means something that sell because it is competitive.


Pål

Unfortunately, with the introduction of the Nikon D100, Canon D60 and Fuji 
S2, the competition for Pentax has just gotten a lot tougher.

Pentax cannot introduce a 6MP camera that costs more than ~$2000.
Pentax cannot introduce a $2000 camera with less than 6MP.

Leaves them in a difficult spot.

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OT: NEW (non-pentax) Toy :-)

2002-07-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Wow... 
an impecable beautiful 6x6 format camera just arrived at my workplace for
me. I am now the proud owner of a 500 C/M Hassy with the standard 80mm
sweet Zeiss lens and A12 back.

I'm salivating here as I'm dying just to leave work early and go home and
learn all I can about this beauty.

I don't know how many more classic cameras I will have to use before
saying I've used them all but this may be a keeper because it just is SO
beautiful !!

Happily yours,
HasselDave


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Re: Prints from slides(unmounted)

2002-07-29 Thread Alan Chan

Few years back when I was in Australia, there was a lab which did machine 
printed Ilfochrome. The results were very good. However, they soon stopped 
the service due to low demand, and I think it costed AUD5 each. I tried the 
Fuji direct machine print and the results are fair. Colour and sharpness are 
good, but contrast appears wrong (too high I think). I don't bother to have 
them printed anymore. Since digital is commonplace now, you might opt for 
those who scanned the slides 1st, and then print them digitally. I think the 
result should be better. Of course, you can always have your slides scanned, 
edit them yourself, and then have them printed by your local labs. Perhaps 
you could look for a PDML member in your area to scan the slides for you? 
Just a thought.

regards,
Alan Chan

Following up on a thread i had last month
about printing from slide film,I found a local
1 hour chain has a machine to print from slide film
on 4x6 5x7 and 8x10 with out haveing to do the
interneg(so told to me)at the main store south of
were i live.
I had them do 2 test prints(i gave the negs to the
outlet were i live and they sent them down for me)
Both came back reversed and fuzzy.However when i look
at the image both by eye and a 55mm f1.8 as a loupe,
they appear nice and crisp on the neg strip.
When i mentioned they looked bad,her comment was,with
positive images there is no room to play,you get what
you get.
I feel if the image on the strip is clean,the print should
be too,correct.Almost looks like they printed it with the
plastic sleeve on.

Comments from the slide print folk please.I like the look
of the slide image,but if i cannot print out a good 35mm
print,not much use to me then.(Epson 2450 does not scan 35 well)
However the 120 6x6's are better scanned.

Dave


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Intuitive D controls? (was Re: Need a new digital camera, what now?)

2002-07-29 Thread Jostein

As a sidetrack to all the competition has...:
The pentax way since MZ-5 has been to create sturdy, basic, compact SLRs.
With easy controls.
How would Pentax implement that line of thinking in a D?
And btw, what's the user interface like on Nikon  Canon D series?

Jostein

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From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: Need a new digital camera, what now?


 Max wrote:
  Pål wrote:
  Huh? You don't find it promising that they will manufacture a digital
slr
  that doesn't cost $7000?
  Their own words:
   Additionally, the knowledge and experience we have gained through
   development of the six-megapixel SLR concept will be used in
developing
   other SLR-type digital cameras, which we expect will be priced more
   competitively, will address consumer needs more directly, and will be
   brought to the market in a more timely manner.
 
  So what may we glean from all this:
  Forget a DSLR based on anything the opposition has.


 Huh? I think it says the opposite. Make something more like what the
competition have. Nobody have a $7000 full frame digital slr so Pentax
doesn't bother either. The Contax is apparently a disaster anyway.


  Expect a radical new body with redesigned lenses to match.


 Huh? I think it says that they will used the basic platform of the shelved
6Mp digital slr.


  Don't expect it any time soon.


 I believe it's  says that they will make sure that it is put to the market
at a time when it is competitive as opposed to a 6mp slr that cost three
times as much as other 6mp slr. This could mean anytime.

  Don't expect it to be up to professional standards.


 I don't think what the consumer wants means no professional standards. It
means something that sell because it is competitive.


 Pål
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RE: Advice on used Leica M2?

2002-07-29 Thread Peter Alling

At that price make sure that it's not hot.

At 07:58 PM 7/29/2002 +0200, you wrote:
Sorry, sounds too good to be true (unless you from a phorographer's wife who
decided he's got too many cameras :) . I guess the lens alone (if it's in
good condition) is worth that money (or more). If the lens is OK I'd go for
it. As far as the camera is concerned - check if the shutter curtains have
no pinholes in them, if the viewfinder is clear and bright, and the
rangefinder patch even brighter than the rest of the viewfinder, and don't
forget to check ALL speeds.

Did you say $250? I guess that even if you add the cost of a CLA it's a good
deal :) Just make sure there's nothing unrepairable.

Good luck with your purchase.

Lukasz

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Kristian Walsh
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 7:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: Advice on used Leica M2?


Hi,

I know this is almost completely non-Pentax(*), but I know there are a
few Leica M users lurking here, so here's the question:

Is €250 (~$250) a good price for a working M2, or is it too good to be
true? Cosmetically, the body is quite battered: the leather cover is a
bit torn, the top plate is quite brassy, and there are several dents.
The body comes with a 35/f2.5 Summaron lens, and the body serial number
is around 106,900.

I've popped the shutter and 1/4 and 1/1000, and seems to work. Anything
else to look for?

I don't want this to collect - I just like the idea of a compact, quiet,
35mm camera that I could bring around with me.

Website addresses also gratefully received.
--
Kristian

(*) A desparate attempt to bring this post back on topic: has anyone
ever seen the Pentax 43mm in M mount?
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RE: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

2002-07-29 Thread Paris, Leonard

Ooooh!  Rosewood handles!  Who made the knife?

Len
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It just so happens that I have in my grubby little paws, a Swiss Army Style
knife with rosewood handles that has Pentax engraved on one side.

Bill  KG4LOV
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Re: OT: Writings on The Wall

2002-07-29 Thread awrobinson

Try Pink Floyd The Wall lyrics for your Google search string.

Andrew Robinson

 
 From: RK [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2002/07/30 Tue AM 02:50:18 EDT
 To: Pentax discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: OT: Writings on The Wall
 
 Would anyone know if the entire text of the Wall is available on the
 web?
 I'm looking for some material I'd read years ago and now keeps coming
 back in bits and pieces.
 I do recall it wasn't formal poetry but a snippet from a soldiers'
 diary. Very basic and VERY touching.
 Have tried Google but until I get a little more specific, this doesn't
 work.
 
 Thanks for reading.
 RK
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Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

2002-07-29 Thread Michael Nosal

At 02:58 PM 7/29/02 -0400, you wrote:
It just so happens that I have in my grubby little paws, a Swiss Army Style
knife with rosewood handles that has Pentax engraved on one side.

Bill  KG4LOV
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Me too! (Well, actually it's in my desk at home) courtesy of Tom 
Rittenhouse, as first prize in the PDML 2001 Printer Challenge.

Mike Nosal - 2001 PDML Master Digital Printer
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RE: Macro question

2002-07-29 Thread Mark Cassino

I sometimes take a pad of 1.5 x 2 inch post-it notes into the field. Just 
tear off the bottom sheet and put the whole pad over the finder. When it 
stops sticking, tear off another and keep going...

Or - shoot in manual mode (then the light leakage has no effect.)

- MCC

At 09:54 AM 7/29/2002 -0400, you wrote:
Ok,
I feel a bit stupid.  There is a long story that leads to the solution that
I won't bore you with, but the long and short is that I was not using (and
didn't know I should be using) a viewfinder cover when taking these shots.
Light leakage into the viewfinder was causing the underexposure.  -  Problem
solved.
Note to self - use viewfinder cover if eyeball not in viewfinder.
J

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 10:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Macro question


Jason,
I'm using automatic, not manual on the Super Program with Bellows.
For manual, you will need to stop the lens down to do the metering.
Otherwise, you have been taking pictures at open aperture.
Regards,  Bob S.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Bob,
  Hey, those are some nice CRISP pics!  (and correctly exposed!!;-)  )
  Did you take those using the manual mode on the camera setting the exposure
  based on what the camera said in the viewfinder or some other method.
  When I do what you suggest the double cable release operates correctly, and
  use the camera's internal metering, all shots are underexposed 2 to 3
stops.
  Jason

  -Original Message-
  Jason,

  Sorry for misreading.  Without a flash, using the Super Program and a
bellows
  works like this for me...  I have an autobellows A.  The bellows shutter
  release plugs into the camera and the front of the bellows (lens end).
  Depress the plunger slowly and you will see that it closes down the
aperture
  on the lens before it fires the shutter.  This way, the camera/lens is used

  at open aperture, but the aperture is closed down to shooting aperture and
  the scene metered before the shutter is released.

  It's worked for me, but then I haven't used over 1 to 1 very often.  See
  these...
   http://pug.komkon.org/00marc/tulipb.html
   http://pug.komkon.org/02feb/grape.html
  Regards,  Bob S. 
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Re: OT: Advice on used Leica M2?

2002-07-29 Thread Paul Jones

Hi,

Make sure the framing lines are bright and that the rangefinder patchs are
both bright, if they arnt then it can be quite expensive to fix and would
probaly only be worth doing on one in good cosmetic condition. I wouldnt
worry abou the vulcanite pealing up.

Also trying shining a torch through the lense from back to front and check
if there is any hazy inside, also shine the torch on an angle on the front
and rear element, older leica lenses have quite soft coatings and get
cleaning marks very very easily.

Sounds like a good buy and have fun.

Regards,
Paul
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From: Jim Apilado [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Advice on used Leica M2?


 I have a couple of M2's.  I'd make sure the shutter speeds are fairly
 accurate and that rangefinder is correct.  I have a 35mm f2 Summicron lens
 and a 50 Summicron.  I have heard that Summaron lenses are a step below.
 $250 is a darn good price that I would go for.

 Jim A.

  From: Kristian Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:37:09 +0100
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: OT: Advice on used Leica M2?
 
  Hi,
 
  I know this is almost completely non-Pentax(*), but I know there are a
  few Leica M users lurking here, so here's the question:
 
  Is â,¬250 (~$250) a good price for a working M2, or is it too good to be
  true? Cosmetically, the body is quite battered: the leather cover is a
  bit torn, the top plate is quite brassy, and there are several dents.
  The body comes with a 35/f2.5 Summaron lens, and the body serial number
  is around 106,900.
 
  I've popped the shutter and 1/4 and 1/1000, and seems to work. Anything
  else to look for?
 
  I don't want this to collect - I just like the idea of a compact, quiet,
  35mm camera that I could bring around with me.
 
  Website addresses also gratefully received.
  --
  Kristian
 
  (*) A desparate attempt to bring this post back on topic: has anyone
  ever seen the Pentax 43mm in M mount?
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Re: OT: Advice on used Leica M2?

2002-07-29 Thread Paul Jones

Hi Bob,

I'm glad someone saved that ebay auction. I wished i had pdf'd it.

Regards,
Paul
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From: Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Kristian Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Advice on used Leica M2?


 Hi,

 that's a very good price - other people have said it sounds too good
 to be true, so you should really take a hard look at the camera and
 the lens.

 Stephen Gandy has a useful M site:
 http://www.cameraquest.com/mguide.htm which includes a buyers'
 checklist - towards the bottom of the page. I found it useful when I was
 buying my first M (an M3). The Leica list (LUG) has some preferred people
 with good reputations for repairing and CLAing M. The person whose name
 comes up most is Sherry Krauter iirc. You can get her details from the
LUG,
 unless another PDMLer who has used her services chips in.

 Somebody else pointed out that you really need a meter when you go out
 and about with these things, and I second that. This can add to the
 clutter that you're carrying around - I always take an incident meter.
 But you could take a small shoe-mounted incident meter such as one of
 the Leica originals, or the Voigtlander meter which has a v.g.
 reputation.

 btw, s/n 106,900 makes it a 1933 Leica II! (And still a good deal).
Assuming
 it really is an M2 the s/n started at 949,101. If your # is 1,006,900
 then it's a 1960 model. I expect it's a typo, but I don't think there
 were any 2.5 Summarons - it's more likely to be a f/3.5.

 I have 2 Ms - an M3 and an M4-2 - with 3 lenses. They're a real
 pleasure to use and well worth having, in my opinion, so I hope yours
 checks out ok. It sounds like a great deal.

 This is what a *really* brassy M2 looks like - I saved the page off
 eBay: http://www.web-options.com/m2.htm. Enjoy!

 ---

  Bob

 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Monday, July 29, 2002, 6:37:09 PM, you wrote:

  Hi,

  I know this is almost completely non-Pentax(*), but I know there are a
  few Leica M users lurking here, so here's the question:

  Is ?250 (~$250) a good price for a working M2, or is it too good to be
  true? Cosmetically, the body is quite battered: the leather cover is a
  bit torn, the top plate is quite brassy, and there are several dents.
  The body comes with a 35/f2.5 Summaron lens, and the body serial number
  is around 106,900.

  I've popped the shutter and 1/4 and 1/1000, and seems to work. Anything
  else to look for?

  I don't want this to collect - I just like the idea of a compact, quiet,
  35mm camera that I could bring around with me.

  Website addresses also gratefully received.
  --
  Kristian

  (*) A desparate attempt to bring this post back on topic: has anyone
  ever seen the Pentax 43mm in M mount?
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Re: Sensia100 Pushed

2002-07-29 Thread senelson

 Last week I put in a thread about pushing Sensia 100.  I just threw the 
 empty box of Sensia 100 away but did read the instructions inside about the 
 Sunny 16 rule with this film.  Fuji recommends setting the shutter speed to 
 1/250 and follow their aperture guide, f/16 on sand or snow, f/11 in 
 sunshine etc.  In other words they are recommending a 1 stop push right out 
 of the box?  By the way I did re-read the front of the box to make sure I 
 hadn't purchased a box of 200 ISO, it was 100.
 
 DG

1/250 f/11 is the same exposure as 1/125 f/16 - i.e. your regular sunny 16 rule.  I 
shoot a lot on snow, and you need to underexpose by at least one stop (from sunny 16) 
or all the hilights in the snow will be completely blown out.

-Scott
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OT: Soligor spot meter

2002-07-29 Thread frank theriault

Hi,

I'm thinking I'd like a spot meter, but unfortunately Pentax ones are a
bit out of my league, price-wise.

Soligor ones seem to come up on eBay on a regular basis.  Anyone have
any experience with them?  Anything to look for or look out for?

thanks,
frank

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Re: Homemade Cable Switch F

2002-07-29 Thread Ken Archer

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I just finished a homemade cable for my PZ-1p and it only cost me about 
$1.50 thanks to Bill Peifer's link from the PDML archives.  I needed 
one 10 feet long so I salvaged a cord from an old computer mouse I had 
laying around and rumaged through my box of computer connectors and 
found a cdrom connector with three pins that fit the camera.  A $1.50 
for a couple of momentary switches and a small project box from Radio 
Shack and it was done.  It works great.  Thanks, Bill, for the link.

Ken

On Tuesday 06 November 2001 01:32 pm, Peifer, William [OCDUS] wrote:
 Your question comes up once in a while on the list, but I always end
 up forgetting the pin-out on the camera body.  Can't remember which
 pin is common, which is for metering, and which is for the shutter. 
 Anyway, you can check the following link:
 http://w3.one.net/~georgek/pentax/acc/g0008.html

 I made one of these home-made switches myself a year or two ago for
 my MZ-50.  I used a little CD audio connector cable to connect to the
 camera body.  It had a plastic end with an single row of four
 connectors.  I removed one of these, then cut the plastic end with a
 razor blade so that it became a 1 x 3 connector, then shaved a small
 bit of plastic off the edge so it would fit into the socket on the
 camera body.  I connected a pushbutton SPST switch for metering and
 focusing.  
 Bill Peifer
 Rochester, NY
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Re: Intuitive D controls? (was Re: Need a new digital camera, wha t now?)

2002-07-29 Thread Pål Jensen

Jostein wrote:

 That's not really what I had in mind. I was thinking of the retro-style that
 Pentax introduced with the MZ series and the 645N. However, I should have
 thought twice before posting the previous one, since the answer is already
 half way there; the abandoned MZ-D was, iirc, meant to have the same
 interface as the MZ-S...


In my opinion the MZ-S and the 645N have the same interface. It's just that the 
shutter speeds aren't printed on the MZ-S dial but displayed electronically.

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Re: what is a good 20mm lens?

2002-07-29 Thread frank theriault

Hi,

FWIW, a list member recently picked up a Soligor 20mm, and sent me an image
he took with it, and I was quite impressed.  Very linear, right to the
edges, and pretty sharp to the edges as well.  Especially for what he paid
for it.

You don't mention if you're looking for k-mount or m42 (the Pentax lenses
you mention are obviously k, but the Soligor is much more plentiful in m42),
but have you thought about a Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 20mm?  Available in
2.8 or 4.0, I've heard that the 4.0 is sharper, but I also saw a contrary
opinion right here a couple of weeks ago - I've not used one, so I don't
know.  Probably more than the cheaper ones on your list, but less than the
Pentaxes.  Both have pretty good reputations.  I would think that k-mount
versions are very rare to non-existent.

Watch it on eBay, though:  it seems that many of them being sold are coming
from former East Block countries, and I'm not sure how reliable those
sellers are...

regards,
frank

newbee wrote:

 i have been thinking about the following
 1. mir 20mm
 2. pentax 20mm M
 3. pentax fa 20mm
 4. vivitar 20 mm 82mm filter
 5. sogilor 20mm 58mm filter

 1, 3,  5 are in the price range so what are the good and bad for both?

 23 are pentax so are higher priced but i asume better quality optically
 what is the difference between the two which is better
 i dont care about autofocus

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Re: NEW (non-pentax) Toy :-)

2002-07-29 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: OT: NEW (non-pentax) Toy :-)


 Wow...
 an impecable beautiful 6x6 format camera just arrived at my
workplace for
 me. I am now the proud owner of a 500 C/M Hassy with the
standard 80mm
 sweet Zeiss lens and A12 back.


Dave, how much use has the lens seen? The Hassey lens shutters
ride on a teflon coated metal donut. Eventually, the teflon
wears off, and the shutter crashes.
A friend of mine wore an 80mm lens shutter out in just over a
year of hard use.
Personally, I don't think you can get a better camera than the
500 series Hasselblad.
William Robb
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Re: Prints from slides(unmounted)

2002-07-29 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: David Brooks
Subject: Prints from slides(unmounted)


 Following up on a thread i had last month
 about printing from slide film,I found a local
 1 hour chain has a machine to print from slide film
 on 4x6 5x7 and 8x10 with out haveing to do the
 interneg(so told to me)at the main store south of
 were i live.
 I had them do 2 test prints(i gave the negs to the
 outlet were i live and they sent them down for me)
 Both came back reversed and fuzzy.However when i look
 at the image both by eye and a 55mm f1.8 as a loupe,
 they appear nice and crisp on the neg strip.
 When i mentioned they looked bad,her comment was,with
 positive images there is no room to play,you get what
 you get.
 I feel if the image on the strip is clean,the print should
 be too,correct.Almost looks like they printed it with the
 plastic sleeve on.

 Comments from the slide print folk please.I like the look
 of the slide image,but if i cannot print out a good 35mm
 print,not much use to me then.(Epson 2450 does not scan 35
well)
 However the 120 6x6's are better scanned.

If they flopped the slide, the inage will, by definition, not be
in the plane of focus, hence the image will be unsharp. The
biggest problem with print from slide is contrast increase.
By the counter persons own definition, if the slide looks good,
they should be able to produce a good print from it.
William Robb
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Re: Re[2]: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

2002-07-29 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Bob Walkden
Subject: Re[2]: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend


 Hi,

  It replaces the stupid corkscrew

 sounds to me like you've got your priorities all wrong... g

Agreed. The corkscrew is one of the more useful tools on a Swiss
Army Knife.
William Robb
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RE: NEW (non-pentax) Toy :-)

2002-07-29 Thread David Chang-Sang

The gentleman I purchased it off had run about 20 to 30 rolls through it.
It's a 78 Body but the guy is a collector more than an avid shooter.  It's
definitely not seen pro work as the body is in great shape. No wear or
tear b/w the back and body either.  The blades look extremely nice and the
lens is crystal clear.
All in all, an excellent camera..
now..
if I can only figure out how to work it :-)

Hunting Online,
Dave


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William Robb
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 6:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NEW (non-pentax) Toy :-)


- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: OT: NEW (non-pentax) Toy :-)


 Wow...
 an impecable beautiful 6x6 format camera just arrived at my
workplace for
 me. I am now the proud owner of a 500 C/M Hassy with the
standard 80mm
 sweet Zeiss lens and A12 back.


Dave, how much use has the lens seen? The Hassey lens shutters
ride on a teflon coated metal donut. Eventually, the teflon
wears off, and the shutter crashes.
A friend of mine wore an 80mm lens shutter out in just over a
year of hard use.
Personally, I don't think you can get a better camera than the
500 series Hasselblad.
William Robb
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Re: OT: Advice on used Leica M2?

2002-07-29 Thread Rob Studdert

On 29 Jul 2002 at 18:37, Kristian Walsh wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I know this is almost completely non-Pentax(*), but I know there are a 
 few Leica M users lurking here, so here's the question:

 I've popped the shutter and 1/4 and 1/1000, and seems to work. Anything 
 else to look for?

Hi Kristian,

I'd like to second what everyone else has said so far, great information. The 
the best of the Leica meters that fits in the flash shoe and couples with the 
shutter speed dial is the MR-4 however beware that they all require mercury 
batteries. They are better to use than any other shoe mount light meter, 
otherwise I'd just use a good hand held meter.

For a picture of the MR-4 see:

http://www.home.aone.net.au/audiobias/Metrawatt_MR-4.jpg

You might want to check Andrew Nemeths excellent Leica FAQ also at:

http://www.nemeng.com/leica/index.shtml

Good luck,

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
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Re: NEW (non-pentax) Toy :-)

2002-07-29 Thread Len Paris

I think the toughest thing is figuring out how to load the film
the first time.  There are a few things you need to remember.

1.  Be sure the shutter is cocked when you take off the lens and
when you put it back on.

2.  Buy a Hasselblad unjamming tool and keep it in your gadget
bag because, you will certainly forget #1, or accidently trip
the lens shutter or the body with the lens off, and you'll need
to re-cock both before you try to put the lens back on.

3.  Get yourself an owners manual for the camera before you
attempt to use it.  E-bay has them, and you can buy one at

  http://www.craigcamera.com  It's worth buying!

Len
---

- Original Message -
From: David Chang-Sang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 5:43 PM
Subject: RE: NEW (non-pentax) Toy :-)


 The gentleman I purchased it off had run about 20 to 30 rolls
through it.
 It's a 78 Body but the guy is a collector more than an avid
shooter.  It's
 definitely not seen pro work as the body is in great shape.
No wear or
 tear b/w the back and body either.  The blades look extremely
nice and the
 lens is crystal clear.
 All in all, an excellent camera..
 now..
 if I can only figure out how to work it :-)

 Hunting Online,
 Dave


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William
Robb
 Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 6:36 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: NEW (non-pentax) Toy :-)


 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Subject: OT: NEW (non-pentax) Toy :-)


  Wow...
  an impecable beautiful 6x6 format camera just arrived at my
 workplace for
  me. I am now the proud owner of a 500 C/M Hassy with the
 standard 80mm
  sweet Zeiss lens and A12 back.


 Dave, how much use has the lens seen? The Hassey lens shutters
 ride on a teflon coated metal donut. Eventually, the teflon
 wears off, and the shutter crashes.
 A friend of mine wore an 80mm lens shutter out in just over a
 year of hard use.
 Personally, I don't think you can get a better camera than the
 500 series Hasselblad.
 William Robb
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Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

2002-07-29 Thread John Mullan

On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:08:29 -0400, Brad Dobo wrote:

Oh crap, this is going to sound stupid, but hey, it's early and I'm still
sleepingbut what is a key fob?

- Original Message -
From: John Mullan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 1:10 AM
Subject: Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend


 On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:49:26 +1000, Rob Studdert wrote:

 On 28 Jul 2002 at 20:58, Brad Dobo wrote:
 
  I have to agree on that, my complaint with my old MZ-5N and now the
MZ-S is that
  stupid rewind button, I switch rolls often and need that damned Pentax
strap,
  although a wider more comfortable one would be nice.
 
 Hi Brad,
 
 I have Tamrac straps with QRs on all my cases and cameras now (except the
M6
 and LX) so I'm going to have to jerry rig another rewind button device to
clip
 onto the camera side of the QR since the straps get interchanged
regularly.
 This allows me to swap between short hand grips to grippy suade or soft
sheep
 skin straps.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Rob Studdert
 HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
 Tel +61-2-9554-4110
 UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
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 Take one of the strap clips with the rewind teat and put it onto a key
fob,  keep it in your
 kit.

 jm
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A key ring with an attachment that can serve as a handle.  Think of the plastic 
advertising 
attachments on a simple key ring.  

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Re: NEW (non-pentax) Toy :-)

2002-07-29 Thread Jeff

Can't be more difficult than a Horseman 970.
Enjoy your new toy.

Jeff.

- Original Message - 
From: Len Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: NEW (non-pentax) Toy :-)


 I think the toughest thing is figuring out how to load the film
 the first time.  There are a few things you need to remember.
 
 1.  Be sure the shutter is cocked when you take off the lens and
 when you put it back on.
 
 2.  Buy a Hasselblad unjamming tool and keep it in your gadget
 bag because, you will certainly forget #1, or accidently trip
 the lens shutter or the body with the lens off, and you'll need
 to re-cock both before you try to put the lens back on.
 
 3.  Get yourself an owners manual for the camera before you
 attempt to use it.  E-bay has them, and you can buy one at
 
   http://www.craigcamera.com  It's worth buying!
 
 Len
 ---
 
 - Original Message -
 From: David Chang-Sang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 5:43 PM
 Subject: RE: NEW (non-pentax) Toy :-)
 
 
  The gentleman I purchased it off had run about 20 to 30 rolls
 through it.
  It's a 78 Body but the guy is a collector more than an avid
 shooter.  It's
  definitely not seen pro work as the body is in great shape.
 No wear or
  tear b/w the back and body either.  The blades look extremely
 nice and the
  lens is crystal clear.
  All in all, an excellent camera..
  now..
  if I can only figure out how to work it :-)
 
  Hunting Online,
  Dave
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William
 Robb
  Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 6:36 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: NEW (non-pentax) Toy :-)
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Subject: OT: NEW (non-pentax) Toy :-)
 
 
   Wow...
   an impecable beautiful 6x6 format camera just arrived at my
  workplace for
   me. I am now the proud owner of a 500 C/M Hassy with the
  standard 80mm
   sweet Zeiss lens and A12 back.
 
 
  Dave, how much use has the lens seen? The Hassey lens shutters
  ride on a teflon coated metal donut. Eventually, the teflon
  wears off, and the shutter crashes.
  A friend of mine wore an 80mm lens shutter out in just over a
  year of hard use.
  Personally, I don't think you can get a better camera than the
  500 series Hasselblad.
  William Robb
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RE: Prints from slides(unmounted)

2002-07-29 Thread Butch Black

Dave, do you know what type of equipment it was printed on. Most digital
minilabs will do direct prints from slides. I was not impressed with the
results from the Konica machine. I like the prints from the Fuji Frontier,
but they have taken a number of the set up controls away with their newest
software so optimum results might not be possible. I'm currently using a
Noritsu 2711 which does a good job with slides, although I have not tried to
print any unmounted slides, and I have no experience with the new Agfa
digital lab, though it's supposed to be nice. Your best bet may be to find a
local lab with a reputation for high end work. Despite the manufactures ads
to the contrary you do need someone at the machine who understands it and
what makes a good print.

BUTCH

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Re: Prints from slides(unmounted)

2002-07-29 Thread Kenneth Waller

For the last several years I've been getting great digital prints from my
slides that are better than any comercial prints from slides I've ever
gotten. Here's how I do it. From every roll of slides I get processed I cull
out the keepers and when I have 25 or more I take them to a local
professional processor who then scans them - Kodak Photo CD - (5 different
resolution levels each) and puts the scans on a CD, don't bother with Kodak
Picture CD unless all you want is to post them to the web (low resolution
not suitable for great prints. These scans cost from $1.5 to $2.0 each. I
then open them with Photoshop 5.0 and print them on a 5 year old Epson
Stylus Photo printer. A 4 X 6 print on photo quality paper, that feels
like conventional wet printing paper, costs about  $0.30 each.
Ken Waller

- Original Message -
From: David Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:17 AM
Subject: Prints from slides(unmounted)
snip, snip, snip...

 Comments from the slide print folk please.I like the look
 of the slide image,but if i cannot print out a good 35mm
 print,not much use to me then.(Epson 2450 does not scan 35 well)
 However the 120 6x6's are better scanned.

 Dave

 Pentax User
 Stouffville Ontario Canada
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OT - Where to exercize Pentax equipment in Chattanooga, Tennessee ?

2002-07-29 Thread Kenneth Waller

I'll be in the Chattanooga area this weekend and am looking for interesting
outdoor/nature photo opportunities. Suggestion?
Thanks in advance.
Ken Waller
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67II grip on 645n II

2002-07-29 Thread Christien Bunting

Is it possible ?

Would really like to get a grip with the 645N II.

Thanks
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Re: NEW (non-pentax) Toy :-)

2002-07-29 Thread Jim Apilado

David,
I use to be a collector of cameras.  I am the proud owner of the Hasselblad
1600 F, the first model sold.  I got it in 1983.  The focal plane shutter
still functions and I occasionally take it out and shoot.  The aperture is
automatic. You have to manually close down the lens before shooting.  I got
lucky a couple of years after I got the 1600 when I found the 90mm Kodak
Ektar lens that fits the old Hassy.  I also now own a telephoto lens and a
wide angle for it.
Hassy later came out with the 1000 F model.  I heard that the shutters on
them were terrible.  Then came the Compur Hasselblads of much renown.

Jim A.


 From: David Chang-Sang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:43:27 -0400
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: NEW (non-pentax) Toy :-)
 
 The gentleman I purchased it off had run about 20 to 30 rolls through it.
 It's a 78 Body but the guy is a collector more than an avid shooter.  It's
 definitely not seen pro work as the body is in great shape. No wear or
 tear b/w the back and body either.  The blades look extremely nice and the
 lens is crystal clear.
 All in all, an excellent camera..
 now..
 if I can only figure out how to work it :-)
 
 Hunting Online,
 Dave
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William Robb
 Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 6:36 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: NEW (non-pentax) Toy :-)
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Subject: OT: NEW (non-pentax) Toy :-)
 
 
 Wow...
 an impecable beautiful 6x6 format camera just arrived at my
 workplace for
 me. I am now the proud owner of a 500 C/M Hassy with the
 standard 80mm
 sweet Zeiss lens and A12 back.
 
 
 Dave, how much use has the lens seen? The Hassey lens shutters
 ride on a teflon coated metal donut. Eventually, the teflon
 wears off, and the shutter crashes.
 A friend of mine wore an 80mm lens shutter out in just over a
 year of hard use.
 Personally, I don't think you can get a better camera than the
 500 series Hasselblad.
 William Robb
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Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

2002-07-29 Thread Bruce Rubenstein

That was my impression when using the FG grip. There was a greater torque
reaction when the lens was being focused. particularly with lithium AA's in
the grip. This did, however, stop after a few months: the AF motor died.
Lesson learned: If you want long lived, fast AF get a body with a big AF
motor that takes real batteries.

From: Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 With the amount of current available from a pair of CR2 batteries
 there is no way for the AF motor to drive lots of large glass
 elements quickly.

Hmmm...  Does that mean that an autofocus body with a AA grip might
sometimes focus a bit more rapidly than the same body with CR2's ???

Fred
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Re: backup (was Digital doubts)

2002-07-29 Thread Mishka

Rob,

I am not sure what you are talking about. AFAIK, both EZCD Creator and
Nero (bundled with most CD writers) do have a verify option. 
And in command line world, cp -R /dev/cd /dev/null  errlog or
something similar does the verification just as well.
And yes, checking the newly burned CD for read errors is crucial.

Best,
Mishka

 From: Rob Studdert 
 Subject: Re: backup (was Digital doubts) 
 Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 17:04:47 -0700 

  On 28 Jul 2002 at 16:57, Bruce Rubenstein wrote:
 
  No. What should be learned is that backups have to be tested. It 
  has to be verified that the backup hardware/software/restore all 
  work at least once.  I'll bet that none of these corrupt backups 
  had ever worked or been tested in their current configuration.
 
 Agreed and it's pretty sad that the current crop of popular CD 
 authoring software doesn't offer verify after write. By not verifying

 back-ups the user can justify laying blame something/someone else 
 when their (supposedly) valuable data can't be recovered.
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Re: Intuitive D controls? (was Re: Need a new digital camera, what now?)

2002-07-29 Thread Bruce Rubenstein

The non-digital controls are the same as the film cameras that they were
adapted from.

From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
As a sidetrack to all the competition has...:
The pentax way since MZ-5 has been to create sturdy, basic, compact SLRs.
With easy controls.
How would Pentax implement that line of thinking in a D?
And btw, what's the user interface like on Nikon  Canon D series?

Jostein
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Re: July PUG review from Cotty

2002-07-29 Thread Joseph Tainter

Thank you, Cotty. Another PDMLer, who also liked the pic, thought the
building was a distraction. So I may digitally erase it and see how the
thing looks then. A lot of work, though, to erase all those edges
carefully.

Joe
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Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

2002-07-29 Thread Bruce Rubenstein

I've had an F100 for over 3 years and a N80 for over 2 years. The AF of the
F100 is much faster than the N80.
The ZX-5 with the FA (power zoom) 28-105 was so slow that it was useless
with moving subjects. The Tamron 4-5.6/28-105 was quicker. The N80 with the
Nikon 28-105 is a bit quicker in the focus mechanics, but faster overall
because it locks on my better. The F100 with the 28-105 is close to never
missed a shot speed.
Also, I almost never use auto AF sensor selection, because I like to decide
what should be in focus and where. When I saw how Pentax implemented sensor
selection on the MZ-S I was glad I didn't wait for it to come out.

From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

If you use Nikon with non AF-S
lens, it will be probably even slightly slower than Pentax (I didn't tested
it with better N's - only had opportunity to check N80 aka F80 - it is
slighly slower than MZ-S)

Best regards
Sylwek
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Re: backup (was Digital doubts)

2002-07-29 Thread Rob Studdert

On 29 Jul 2002 at 18:49, Mishka wrote:

 Rob,
 
 I am not sure what you are talking about. AFAIK, both EZCD Creator and
 Nero (bundled with most CD writers) do have a verify option. 
 And in command line world, cp -R /dev/cd /dev/null  errlog or
 something similar does the verification just as well.
 And yes, checking the newly burned CD for read errors is crucial.

My current version of EZCD (v3.5c) doesn't provide a verification option, I'm 
obviously a little behind, I had catastrophic problems with later versions 
under WK2 + ASPI. I use a third party utility to verify data integrity. CD 
definitely provides the greatest ease of data retrieval given the vast install 
base of readers however I still prefer linear tape for automated daily back-up 
even though I have many options at my disposal. My writer is a Philips CDD2000, 
it cost me more than the current crop of DVD writers over five years ago, it's 
still going strong, never produces coasters. :-)

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
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Re: AF zoom?

2002-07-29 Thread Joseph Tainter

My first AF Pentax was the ZX-50. The kit came with the F 35-80
f4.0-5.6. It is now available in FA. For a budget lens I can recommend
this. Many of the photos I have submitted to PUG were made with it. I
often make full-size enlargements on A4 paper from images taken with it.
Once a friend borrowed a negative and had a poster about 0.8 by 1.1 m.
made from it. At proper viewing distance it was really quite sharp.

My wife now has that camera and the lens is still in use.

Joe
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Re (2): AF zoom?

2002-07-29 Thread Joseph Tainter

Another very good lens is the older F 35-70. You will need to find one
used. It has a reputation of being one of Pentax's best zooms, and
should be inexpensive.

Joe
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Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

2002-07-29 Thread Brad Dobo

Ummmever think it was a defect?  What are real batteries?  I use
batteries, they see to be real. :) Never had a AF motor stop, or, to my
eyes, slow down.

 the grip. This did, however, stop after a few months: the AF motor died.
 Lesson learned: If you want long lived, fast AF get a body with a big AF
 motor that takes real batteries.
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Re: MZ-S gripe and Oly pics from the weekend

2002-07-29 Thread Mark Cassino

Nice shots with the Oly and I fully agree on the lack of a DSLR. I'm amazed 
at how much of my shooting has moved over to my Nikon digital.

As for the rewind button - I'm always out in the woods and a twig is never 
far off. But how about taking a safety pin, cutting off or dulling the 
sharp end, and then just pinning it to the strap?  I haven't tried it (just 
thought of it right now) but it might be a solution.

- MCC

At 02:49 PM 7/29/2002 +1000, you wrote:
On 28 Jul 2002 at 20:58, Brad Dobo wrote:

  I have to agree on that, my complaint with my old MZ-5N and now the 
 MZ-S is that
  stupid rewind button, I switch rolls often and need that damned Pentax 
 strap,
  although a wider more comfortable one would be nice.

Hi Brad,

I have Tamrac straps with QRs on all my cases and cameras now (except the M6
and LX) so I'm going to have to jerry rig another rewind button device to 
clip
onto the camera side of the QR since the straps get interchanged regularly.
This allows me to swap between short hand grips to grippy suade or soft sheep
skin straps.

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
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