Re: Program Plus problem
For Super A/Program or Program A/Plus, S76/SR44 is recommended. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan Are you using the right batteries? Alkaline A76 will have no life. _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Question: ME Super and F 85/2.8 soft
Hi! I've just tried the above combination. Before that I was taking advantage of aufo-focusness of the lens on my MZ-6... Anyway, I've observed that straigtforward focusing with split screen gives rather odd results. Here what I observed: 1. closer than infinity distance reported by Takumar 135/2.5 and F85/2.8 soft is (are?) totally different, like 1.7 and 3 m respectively. 2. naturally I can see infinity in focus with Takumar and the split screen halves on ME Super just do not come to focus with F 85/2.8. 3. finally, all the time I've been shooting with MZ-6 and F 85/2.8 I've been getting rather normally focussed outcomes... Please help. I am confused. Thanks in advance. Boris _ Personal Pro + $85 http://www.kaspersky.ru/offer/
Re: 5 Mpixel price breakthough
on 28.10.03 3:19, J. C. O'Connell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still dont believe that camera has a sensor that cost CANON $700 if thats what your trying to say. Why not? Analog EOS-300V (EOS Rebel Ti) costs about 200$ and it has far more built-in mechanics than its digital sibbling. Electronics other than CCD in DSLRs should be rather cheap. -- Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Tests of chromatic aberrations with *istD
Hello Jostein and thanks for your report, but... frightened by your report I've made several shots with different apertures in high contrast situations, and slight chromatic abberations apeeared only on one shot - they weren't big though, althought visible. In all other cases they were not visible at all. Does somples of FA 100/2.8 macro or *istD differs so much? -- Best Regards Sylwek
Re: 5 Mpixel price breakthough
Hi! On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:50:14 +0100 Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 28.10.03 3:19, J. C. O'Connell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still dont believe that camera has a sensor that cost CANON $700 if thats what your trying to say. Why not? Analog EOS-300V (EOS Rebel Ti) costs about 200$ and it has far more built-in mechanics than its digital sibbling. Electronics other than CCD in DSLRs should be rather cheap. -- Best Regards Sylwek Pardon my intrusion, but I seem to miss something here. Let me try to explain why I think RebelD costs whatever it costs... Canon (or any other similar company for that matter) has market presense in most if not all market segments. So they seem to know what are the specs the market favors and how much market is willing to pay for it. So they just produce the camera that is as close to the favorite specs of given market segment as they can get within their own time frame. Then they charge maximal (perhaps minus little delta) amount of money for the outcome... I really think it is that simple. Of course there're technical details, such as production and/or research costs, and so on. But one techinicalities are done with, and somehow I am sure Canon can be quite done with technical part of the game, it is not that difficult to set up a price for the product. I suppose that charging maximal explains why when eventually prices go down, the product is still produced and sold, normally with profit! Let the light be with you... Boris _ Personal Pro + $85 http://www.kaspersky.ru/offer/
Re: Program Plus problem
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: Are you using the right batteries? Alkaline A76 will have no life. Regards, Bob S. Yes, sure ! Two good S76 batterie that work again with K2, KX ! Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a Program Plus (Program A) wich show allway 'low battery' (000 blinking). Has anyone a service manual for it ? I don't know if - the electronic is broken - the electronic drain the battery - the low battery detector nead adjustement Under the base plate aren only two adjustement dials
Re: Tests of chromatic aberrations with *istD
Sylwester Pietrzyk escribió: Hello Jostein and thanks for your report, but... frightened by your report I've made several shots with different apertures in high contrast situations, and slight chromatic abberations apeeared only on one shot - they weren't big though, althought visible. In all other cases they were not visible at all. Does somples of FA 100/2.8 macro or *istD differs so much? Perhaps Jostein's FA 100 mm. 2.8 macro is slightly out of alignment. I have seen this before, last time I observed that problem was in my brother's Sigma 70-200 AF. He had it realigned and the problem dissapeared. Carlos Royo - Zaragoza (Aragon), Spain The struggle of people against power is the struggle of memory against forgetting Milan Kundera (La lucha del pueblo contra el poder es la lucha de la memoria contra el olvido)
Re: Tests of chromatic aberrations with *istD
on 28.10.03 10:22, Carlos Royo at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps Jostein's FA 100 mm. 2.8 macro is slightly out of alignment. I have seen this before, last time I observed that problem was in my brother's Sigma 70-200 AF. He had it realigned and the problem dissapeared. It could be, althought FA 100/2.8 is so tough built, that it seems almost impossible. -- Best Regards Sylwek
Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, graywolf wrote: My prediction? Color film will be hard to find in 5 years. Have you taken into account that 35 mm film is used in cinema as well? There will eventually be a shift to digital there as well, but hardly in five years time. anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/
Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See
that's interesting because the 5400's predecessor, the 5000, is specified to have a lag of 55 milliseconds when prefocused. Herb - Original Message - From: alex wetmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 9:44 PM Subject: Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See Nikon 5400: Shutter Release LAG *3 Using Viewfinder 0.1 Shutter Release LAG *3 Using LCD Monitor 0.1 The lag that I think most consumers complain about is the AF and exposure lag. That can add a second or two. I doubt that most consumers prefocus their cameras in normal operation.
Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See
in the US, there is wholesale replacement of film with digital projectors for commercial movie theaters. yes, they will retain film for a while, but not a long while, since the films wear out so quickly. after that, it will be the boutique and art film theaters only that continue to use film. Herb... - Original Message - From: Anders Hultman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:59 AM Subject: Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See Have you taken into account that 35 mm film is used in cinema as well? There will eventually be a shift to digital there as well, but hardly in five years time.
OT: Film disappearing? Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See
I thought 70 mm had displaced 35 mm to a large extent. Don ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery See New Pages The Cement Company from HELL! Updated: August 15, 2003 - Original Message - From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 12:37 PM Subject: Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See in the US, there is wholesale replacement of film with digital projectors for commercial movie theaters. yes, they will retain film for a while, but not a long while, since the films wear out so quickly. after that, it will be the boutique and art film theaters only that continue to use film. Herb... - Original Message - From: Anders Hultman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:59 AM Subject: Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See Have you taken into account that 35 mm film is used in cinema as well? There will eventually be a shift to digital there as well, but hardly in five years time.
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Boz - KMP : optical formula images -- colors
Hi Boz, I have seen you inserted some optical diagram images from the Japanese web site . Do you know what the colors of the lenses mean ? I can't find any info about that . I understand that blue is ED glass , green is glued acrylic Al-lens , yellow is ? molded Al-lens ? red is ? high refractive glass ? purple is ??? (FA250-600) Could you extract this information from http://www.excite.co.jp/world/url/?wb_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.digitalcamera.jp%2Fwb_lp=jaen-ATL Enjoy, Alexander __ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/
Re: Av Wheel Wanted....
Pat White a écrit: Mark Erickson wrote: In particular, my A* 200/F4 macro lens only displays the aperture in the viewfinder if the lens is set on A. I can put the camera on Shutter The viewfinder never displays the aperture set on the lens for A lenses. On 'A' setting, it displays only the aperture calculate by the body for correct exposure. Michel
Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See
Herb wrote: HC in the US, there is wholesale replacement of film with digital projectors HC for commercial movie theaters. What resolution would that be? I am concerned as the best commercial (not industrial) digital projectors are a measly 2 MPixels, and in my experience it lacks not just (obviously) in definition but also in dynamic range. Could it be possible the movie audience might accept a similar drop in projection quality!? After all, I go to the theater for the ample tones and details of the projected film image - a totally different experience than the one I can get with a DVD and a home theater. And I suspect I'm not alone. Servus, Alin
Re: Boz - KMP : optical formula images -- colors
I don't think their use of colour is consistant. blue is ED green: AL yellow: extra-LD red: high refractive LD or AL depends on which pictures Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: 5 Mpixel price breakthough
On 28/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: The last thing that I found said that the sensor in the Pentax *ist D and Nikon D100 cost about $700 each in quantity. Well that's what they'd like you to think, makes the bitter pill more palatable if there is some other entity to blame. I blame the entities parents. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Film disappearing? Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See
yes, but all film is being replaced by digital pretty quickly in theaters. Herb - Original Message - From: Dr E D F Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 5:47 AM Subject: OT: Film disappearing? Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See I thought 70 mm had displaced 35 mm to a large extent.
Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See
can't tell except that it is at least as good as ordinary 70mm film. these projectors are part of million dollar systems. Herb - Original Message - From: Alin Flaider [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 6:15 AM Subject: Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See What resolution would that be? I am concerned as the best commercial (not industrial) digital projectors are a measly 2 MPixels, and in my experience it lacks not just (obviously) in definition but also in dynamic range. Could it be possible the movie audience might accept a similar drop in projection quality!? After all, I go to the theater for the ample tones and details of the projected film image - a totally different experience than the one I can get with a DVD and a home theater. And I suspect I'm not alone.
Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See
On 28/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Have you taken into account that 35 mm film is used in cinema as well? There will eventually be a shift to digital there as well, but hardly in five years time. in the US, there is wholesale replacement of film with digital projectors for commercial movie theaters. yes, they will retain film for a while, but not a long while, since the films wear out so quickly. after that, it will be the boutique and art film theaters only that continue to use film. I have bad news. Motion pictures for cinema release are still shot on 35mm negative. True. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See
on 28.10.03 12:54, Cotty at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have bad news. Motion pictures for cinema release are still shot on 35mm negative. True. Exactly. They are converted to either positives for cinemas or digital At the later stage. -- Best Regards Sylwek
Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See
On 28 Oct 2003 at 13:15, Alin Flaider wrote: What resolution would that be? I am concerned as the best commercial (not industrial) digital projectors are a measly 2 MPixels, and in my experience it lacks not just (obviously) in definition but also in dynamic range. Could it be possible the movie audience might accept a similar drop in projection quality!? See: http://www.henninger.com/library/hdtvfilm24/ The Fall of Film Production http://www.volksmovie.com/rants/archive/rogerebert.htm Start the Revolution without Digital Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Question: ME Super and F 85/2.8 soft
Use the matte screen for focusing with this lens . Alexander Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:39:45 +0300 From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi! I've just tried the above combination. Before that I was taking advantage of aufo-focusness of the lens on my MZ-6... Anyway, I've observed that straigtforward focusing with split screen gives rather odd results. Here what I observed: 1. closer than infinity distance reported by Takumar 135/2.5 and F85/2.8 soft is (are?) totally different, like 1.7 and 3 m respectively. 2. naturally I can see infinity in focus with Takumar and the split screen halves on ME Super just do not come to focus with F 85/2.8. 3. finally, all the time I've been shooting with MZ- 6 and F 85/2.8 I've been getting rather normally focussed outcomes... Please help. I am confused. Thanks in advance. Boris __ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/
Cinema projection - WAS - Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See
Hi, Herb wrote: in the US, there is wholesale replacement of film with digital projectors for commercial movie theaters. yes, they will retain film for a while, but not a long while, since the films wear out so quickly. after that, it will be the boutique and art film theaters only that continue to use film. I find the first sentence very hard to believe. Even in the poxy, boxy multiplex booths the screen is rather large. As cinema film has an ASA of about 8 (eight), the resolution required for electronic projection would be well outside present capability. Not to mention colour saturation, or the lack of it.. On the other hand, modern cinema is generally designed for people with limited intellect and excess disposable income. mike
Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See
On 28 Oct 2003 at 11:54, Cotty wrote: I have bad news. Motion pictures for cinema release are still shot on 35mm negative. True. Not entirely. http://millimeter.com/ar/video_digital_desert/ Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See
Robert Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course its a lens aberration. But I think she thought that it could be corrected post capture. And what I replied was that I didn't think that the software could do something like this. There is indeed software for correcting chromatic aberration: Picture Window Pro (http://www.dl-c.com/) There's a review of it at http://luminous-landscape.com/reviews/chromatic.shtml (though the before and after photos are swapped at one point!) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: 5 Mpixel price breakthough
Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 27 Oct 2003 at 15:49, alex wetmore wrote: The last thing that I found said that the sensor in the Pentax *ist D and Nikon D100 cost about $700 each in quantity. Well that's what they'd like you to think, makes the bitter pill more palatable if there is some other entity to blame. I don't know about the CCD being used in the *ist and D100, but the 6-megapixel *full-frame* CCD used in the Contax (and the abandoned MZ-S Digital) was $1000 in quantity. I doubt the APS-sized CCD is half that. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: 5 Mpixel price breakthough
On 28 Oct 2003 at 7:29, Mark Roberts wrote: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 27 Oct 2003 at 15:49, alex wetmore wrote: The last thing that I found said that the sensor in the Pentax *ist D and Nikon D100 cost about $700 each in quantity. Well that's what they'd like you to think, makes the bitter pill more palatable if there is some other entity to blame. I don't know about the CCD being used in the *ist and D100, but the 6-megapixel *full-frame* CCD used in the Contax (and the abandoned MZ-S Digital) was $1000 in quantity. I doubt the APS-sized CCD is half that. Apart from the fact that this value was bandied about at least two years ago now I doubt that anyone but a noted manufacturer would be able to secure quantity pricing for this type of component without providing at least: Project Application/details: Anticipated Production Volume (Yearly): Anticipated Production Quantity (Yearly): IOW its all guess work outside the materials procurement/engineering departments. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003, Cotty wrote: I have bad news. Motion pictures for cinema release are still shot on 35mm negative. True. Some music videos as well, even though they're only intended for tv viewing. anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/
Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See
On 28 Oct 2003 at 7:26, Mark Roberts wrote: There is indeed software for correcting chromatic aberration: Picture Window Pro (http://www.dl-c.com/) There's a review of it at http://luminous-landscape.com/reviews/chromatic.shtml (though the before and after photos are swapped at one point!) Can also be corrected using the Panorama Tools Plugin which is free ware: http://www.caldwellphotographic.com/TutorialsDistortionAndColorFringing.html Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
istD review - finally
You should check dpreview - it's there! http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentaxistd/ Alex Sarbu --- Acasa.ro vine cu albumele, tu vino doar cu pozele ;) http://poze.acasa.ro/
Re: Screw Mount Lenses
I've been using an ES and ES II with several SMC lenses. The SMC 50mm f1.4 and the SMC 28mm f3.5 are beauties. They remind me of the current Pentax Limited Lens line. I've also used the SMC 135 f3.5 and would like to find the f2.5. Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] quotes and writes: I've been trying to collect some SMC Takumar screwmount lenses and the ones I have used thus far are very good and feel wonderful in use. Tactile photography... Bob S. Which ones have you got? I have a Spotmatic from 30 odd years ago (I still use it extensively especially for travelling; I'm just back from Kyoto) which came with the 55mm f1.8 as standard, and I also bought a Hanimex 135mm f2.8. Hanimex lenses are usually not highly thought of, but I think this one was made by Vivitar and is quite good quality. Since then I've got the 85mm f1.9, and the 50mm f1.4. 80% of my photography (outdoor 'nature' and cities) is shot with short telephoto, the rest with standard, but I do also quite like 135mm. I have the chance to buy a Super-Tak 135mm f2.8 (same specs as the Hanimex) and wonder if anyone knows the lens and could give advice? Kind regards mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Program Plus problem
Michael, I have had a Super Program run for years with a single set of Silver Oxide MS76's. I never turn the camera off. I expect the same with the Program Plus (Program A). The only time I have had problems, the bottom plate of the camera was loose and made bad contact with the battery. I tightened the screws and the problem went away. Does your viewfinder display 'time-out' and turn off? Even so, those electronics are not much of a current draw. Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: Are you using the right batteries? Alkaline A76 will have no life. Regards, Bob S. Yes, sure ! Two good S76 batterie that work again with K2, KX ! Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a Program Plus (Program A) wich show allway 'low battery' (000 blinking). Has anyone a service manual for it ? I don't know if - the electronic is broken - the electronic drain the battery - the low battery detector nead adjustement Under the base plate aren only two adjustement dials
Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See
Don't know about 5 years, but the new Sony theaters around here are supposed to get their movies in digital via satellite. No more film... Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, graywolf wrote: My prediction? Color film will be hard to find in 5 years. Have you taken into account that 35 mm film is used in cinema as well? There will eventually be a shift to digital there as well, but hardly in five years time. anders
Re: istD review - finally
on 28.10.03 13:43, Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should check dpreview - it's there! http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentaxistd/ Nice to see that *istD performs so well! There are few small grips, but for first, real DSLR very good results overall! And AFAIK - it was first Pentax digicamera to have highly recommended designation by Dpreview. Nice! AF performs as I expected - thanks to cross sensors it was very fast in good light conditions, but due to 0EV minimum light sensitivity, it performed poorer than EOS 10D in dark places (also I've noticed, that it usually focused about two times slower in poor light than MZ-S with its linear sensors). -- Best Regards Sylwek
DSLR Enablement needed.
I visited my favorite local camera store here in Central New Jersey, USA, last night. They finally received the long-pomised *istd, and called me to let me know. I really liked the feel and operation of the camera. The price, $1375 for body only, didn't seem out of line. Still I hesitate. Will the price come down in the near future? Will Pentax come out with an upgraded version soon, as they did to me with the Optio S earlier this year? Is it really worth all that money? Will I need to buy a new lens right away to take full advantage of its capabilities? Decision, decisions.
Re: Thx and cropping question
Sorry about the low precision level on the methods. I will try to put something up later. I have realised that if I want to publish all the tests I want to undertake, I will have to reorganise the pages anyway. As to cropping; I took up the image in photoshop as TIF, and set the view to actual pixels. Then I selected the area I wanted and pasted into a new document. With the new document, I used save for web without any more adjustments at all. Thus, the resulting jpegs are about 300x200 pixels out of the 3000x2000. hth, Jostein - Pictures at: http://oksne.net - - Original Message - From: jmb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:18 AM Subject: Re: Thx and cropping question Jostein wrote: I like all the information you put with your test setup. How do you make the crops? Do you select an area and enlarge it? Thanks, jmb~
Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See
On 28/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: See: http://www.henninger.com/library/hdtvfilm24/ The Fall of Film Production Thanks Rob, very interesting. The author predicts a chang-over period of 20 years. I'll stick with my original assertion that it won't be for at least a decade. It's a logical progression of movie production. If the shoe fits Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Tests of chromatic aberrations with *istD
I don't know how much this lens vary between samples, but I have tried two of these lenses, and they are both the same. Cheers, Jostein - Pictures at: http://oksne.net - - Original Message - From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:14 AM Subject: Re: Tests of chromatic aberrations with *istD Hello Jostein and thanks for your report, but... frightened by your report I've made several shots with different apertures in high contrast situations, and slight chromatic abberations apeeared only on one shot - they weren't big though, althought visible. In all other cases they were not visible at all. Does somples of FA 100/2.8 macro or *istD differs so much? -- Best Regards Sylwek
Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See
On 28/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: I have bad news. Motion pictures for cinema release are still shot on 35mm negative. True. Not entirely. http://millimeter.com/ar/video_digital_desert/ I stand corrected! Thanks Rob. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Tests of chromatic aberrations with *istD
I shall certainly check if that can be ruled out. I have no big faith in it, but thanks for the tip, Carlos. Jostein - Pictures at: http://oksne.net - - Original Message - From: Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:22 AM Subject: Re: Tests of chromatic aberrations with *istD Sylwester Pietrzyk escribió: Hello Jostein and thanks for your report, but... frightened by your report I've made several shots with different apertures in high contrast situations, and slight chromatic abberations apeeared only on one shot - they weren't big though, althought visible. In all other cases they were not visible at all. Does somples of FA 100/2.8 macro or *istD differs so much? Perhaps Jostein's FA 100 mm. 2.8 macro is slightly out of alignment. I have seen this before, last time I observed that problem was in my brother's Sigma 70-200 AF. He had it realigned and the problem dissapeared. Carlos Royo - Zaragoza (Aragon), Spain The struggle of people against power is the struggle of memory against forgetting Milan Kundera (La lucha del pueblo contra el poder es la lucha de la memoria contra el olvido)
Re: What DSLR Improvements I
RS See: http://www.henninger.com/library/hdtvfilm24/ RS The Fall of Film Production I went to the theater to see the technicalities behind Star War episodes presented as reference in the above link. I did notice almost involuntarily the pixelization and general lack of details. There's no real comparison to the film, HDTV is orders of magnitude below. All I read between the lines is convenience and costs cut. To deliver crap as an inexpensive alternative is one thing, but to extoll its virtues and push it like the only option is plain profit pursuit played on the audience ignorance. I'm truly horrified. Hi gang ... Can't speak to HDTV, but the digitized movies that I've seen have been wonderful to view. In the area in the US where I lived, numerous theaters project digitally, and the sharpness, clarity, and detail of what is seen on the screen is just superb. If my experiences at the movie theater are representative of the quality in other places, all I can say is Long live digital projection! Kind regards, Tyrone -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Tutti i test che vuoi a portata di clic! trova quello che fa per te, clicca e partecipa Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=1727d=28-10
Re: Cinema projection - WAS - Re: What DSLR Improvements I
Hi, in the US, there is wholesale replacement of film with digital projectors for commercial movie theaters. yes, they will retain film for a while, but not a long while, since the films wear out so quickly. after that, it will be the boutique and art film theaters only that continue to use film. I find the first sentence very hard to believe. Even in the poxy, boxy multiplex booths the screen is rather large. As cinema film has an ASA of about 8 (eight), the resolution required for electronic projection would be well outside present capability. Not to mention colour saturation, or the lack of it.. On the other hand, modern cinema is generally designed for people with limited intellect and excess disposable income. What drivel! How many digitally projected movies have you seen? Thge results that we've seen in the US have been excellent. Apart from a different grain pattern, the projected image is virtually impossible to tell from (some) film - colors were great, detail high. Overall, many enjoyable experiences. BTW, I like to think that my intelligence (and that of my friends) is a step or two above your characterization, although my income is definitely several steps below excess disposable. LOL Tyrone -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Digitalpix stampa le tue migliori foto digitali su vera carta fotografica professionale. Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=1532d=28-10
Re: Tests of chromatic aberrations with *istD
Okay, so far so good... I have tried to print the photos that had the most chromatic aberrations; the FA100/2.8 macro at f/2.8 and the Sigma APO 70-200/2.8 at 70mm and f/2.8. The good news is that from the suburb houses shots, nobody would be able to see any aberrations in an A4, unless they were told what to look for and look closely. However, the aberrations in the first test shot I did with a FA100/2.8 macro (http://home.online.no/~jooksne/istd_aberr.htm) clearly shows up on an A4 print. To me, the ultimate test is to have a slide burned on film from the file and see it blown up on the wall. That's how I'm used to evaluate my shots, and feel most comfortable with. Cheers, Jostein - Pictures at: http://oksne.net - - Original Message - From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 5:19 PM Subject: Re: Tests of chromatic aberrations with *istD Hi, Joe. My printer is A4, so that's as large as I can go (Epson 890). That's tonight's task, so I'll keep you posted. Jostein - Pictures at: http://oksne.net - - Original Message - From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 2:55 AM Subject: Re: Tests of chromatic aberrations with *istD Thanks for doing these tests, Jostein. I look forward to future installments. The posted images aren't large enough, to my eyes, to see color fringing. I'm not questioning that it is there, I just cannot tell how bad it is. For the lenses with chromatic abberation, can you estimate what size print enlargement one would have to make to see it? For me, that is the real world test. Thanks, Jostein. Joe
Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See
John Francis wrote: I suspect there's a chicken-and-egg argument here. There are several other good reasons for keeping the mechanical-shutter design of DSLRs (not least of which is dust control), so there is no need to use fast-clear sensors; the sensor is in the dark (and cleared?) at all times except when the exposure is made. But it would be quite easy to build a DSLR around a sensor with characteristics similar to that in the PowerShot G5 were it to be deemed appropriate. You think? Well, if possible, then someday they certainly will do it. Marnie aka Doe This has been a very informative thread.
Re: NorCal PDML Meet Pictures
Graywolf wrote: Very strange, when I go to that page the links insist the pictures are in my C:\Windows\Temp\ directory. Of course they are not. How are others managing to see them? Usually when this happens to me it means that I need to reboot, somehow my browser is messing up. The page loads. No problemo. Marnie aka Doe
Optio S
Dan mentioned his Optio S today. I'm sad to report that the Optio S is off with my daughter now. The thing is so damned cute that I'm thinking about buying another one and chucking film entirely... (well not really) (g) I had it around my neck for the past two days, and I couldn't tell I was carrying a camera. Plus, I get 4 megapixels when I take a photo and a 12X zoom. If I could resolve to live with that level of resolution, a digital SLR would be pointless. The Sony S85 I picked up for myself is 4 megapixels, compact, and has some additional features, but looks like a 6x7 compared to the Optio S! I'm beginning to think of digital in terms of snapshots and film in terms of serious pictures where magnification and detail will be enjoyed. That Optio S is sure a sweetheart! Regards, Bob S.
Re: Cinema projection - WAS - Re: What DSLR Improvements I
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What drivel! How many digitally projected movies have you seen? Thge results that we've seen in the US have been excellent. Apart from a different grain pattern, the projected image is virtually impossible to tell from (some) film - colors were great, detail high. Overall, many enjoyable experiences. None. Without being belittling or anything else nasty, because I am genuinely interested in this, can you direct me to a site where I can see examples of proper, cinematic, digital projectors? mike
Re: Digital issues
i have a minor problem once every 6 or 8 months. the printer is always turned off when not in use for more than about 15 minutes. this caps the heads and preserves the ink. i also print at least once a week because that is how often i have a batch of photos to print. i have concluded that i wore out my Epson 1270 printer by printing so much that the carriage friction wore irregularities into the rail and caused mistracking of the head. Herb That's useful to know, thanks! Just turned off printer -- it was turning on every time I booted. Marnie aka Doe
Digital Into Slides?
BW is damn near impossible to find now (but won't be by Wednesday) as there has been a run on it here, apparently! Aside from that, slide film will be slow to depart. Damn sure I will not be going to digital, without my LX filled and latterly developed with slide film for the Christmas annual show. I like the inconvenience of the big screen going up Malcolm Maybe I've already read this here and don't remember it. Been lots of discussion how many labs can now do digital printing (well, a limited few). And I think there has been some discussion that one can get their jpegs (or whatever) converted into film. Hasn't there? Or am I remembering incorrectly? Can jpegs be converted into slides? Yet? If not yet, is it forseeably doable? Marnie aka Doe
Re: Cinema projection - WAS - Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See
Hi, Bobolini wrote: You score 8½ for intellectual snobbery g Infamy! Infamy! They've all got it in for me!
Re: Optio S
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan mentioned his Optio S today. I'm sad to report that the Optio S is off with my daughter now. The thing is so damned cute that I'm thinking about buying another one and chucking film entirely... (well not really) (g) I had it around my neck for the past two days, and I couldn't tell I was carrying a camera. Plus, I get 4 megapixels when I take a photo and a 12X zoom. If I could resolve to live with that level of resolution, a digital SLR would be pointless. The Sony S85 I picked up for myself is 4 megapixels, compact, and has some additional features, but looks like a 6x7 compared to the Optio S! I'm beginning to think of digital in terms of snapshots and film in terms of serious pictures where magnification and detail will be enjoyed. That Optio S is sure a sweetheart! I'm really happy with mine. Its nice to have a camera with me at all times. I was out shooting with my 35mm gear this weekend, and I put the optio S in my camera bag and couldn't find it LOL. I've only had it for a month, and I'm up to 900 images on it. All snapshots, but it will allow me to almost always shoot black and white now :) Actually, I'm shooting more film now than before I got the S. - Chris -- Chris Murray /\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN http://apeman.org/ XAGAINST HTML MAIL Cell: 604.861.8307 / \/ Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
Re: istD review - finally
Sylwester Pietrzyk schrieb: on 28.10.03 13:43, Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should check dpreview - it's there! http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentaxistd/ *SNIP* ...performed poorer than *XYZ* in dark places (also I've noticed, that it usually focused about two times slower in poor light than MZ-S with its linear sensors). I can second that! Again, Pentax's true gem was the Z1-p with it's red-beam-technique. If I am going to places where I know I've got to shoot in the dark, I've got my Z1-p with me. So in the future, my AF500-ftz will get a lot more work than in the past - works okay with the *ist-D, so I'm happy as can be :-) btw: is Stofen omnibounce available for AF500FTZ? I've built myself one from an empty polypropylene shampoo bottle...looks weird, works remarkably well also with 14mm or fisheye (on film too)! If somebody wants to see - anyone with a little webspace :-)? Thomas
OT: Digital cinema projection
Hi, Tyrone wrote: What drivel! How many digitally projected movies have you seen? Thge results that we've seen in the US have been excellent. Apart from a different grain pattern, the projected image is virtually impossible to tell from (some) film - colors were great, detail high. Overall, many enjoyable experiences From http://www.kodak.com/US/en/corp/pressReleases/pr20020304-02.shtml (i.e. dated fourth of March this year) To show first-run movies, the Kodak Digital Cinema projector, which is part of the Kodak system, offers a major step forward in digital image quality. It incorporates Kodak Color Management software and other proprietary Kodak imaging technology, in a projector platform from JVC. The projector uses new JVC D-ILA three million pixel chips. The new JVC chip offers more than double the resolution currently available in digital cinema projectors, says Mayson. When you combine that gain in resolution with our color management technology, we are coming a lot closer to our goal of matching the best film quality available on screens today. Hope you didn't cheat on your driving eyesight test, Tyrone 8-) mike
Re: Digital Into Slides?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe I've already read this here and don't remember it. Been lots of discussion how many labs can now do digital printing (well, a limited few). And I think there has been some discussion that one can get their jpegs (or whatever) converted into film. Hasn't there? Or am I remembering incorrectly? Can jpegs be converted into slides? Yet? If not yet, is it forseeably doable? Yep. You can have slides made from digital files. I've had it done for some Photoshopped images that had to be submitted to an art show jury in slide form. Cost was around $6.000 per slide (I think) at a lab here in Pittsburgh. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
35/2.0 screwmounts
Got a question for those better acquainted with the universe of Takumar screw-mounts than I. I've got a 35/2.0 Super-Takumar (new type) which has a yellow discoloration. I'm told it's a common problem for this lens due to aging of the coating. Since I'm shooting mostly slide film I'd like to get another 35/2.0 screw-mount to supplement it. I've been holding out for an SMC Takumar 35/2.0, but I haven't seen any on the used market. Do these lenses show up on the used market, or are they all being hoarded like the 15s? I've been thinking about looking for one of the older, larger type. The optical design appears to be simply a 50/1.4-type lens with a negative element in front of it rather than the more evolved retrofocus design of the later version. It's an unusual design, and I don't know what to expect. How does this version perform relative to the later, smaller version? DJE
Re: OT: Digital cinema projection
From http://www.kodak.com/US/en/corp/pressReleases/pr20020304-02.shtml (i.e. dated fourth of March this year) To show first-run movies, the Kodak Digital Cinema projector, which is part of the Kodak system, offers a major step forward in digital image quality. It incorporates Kodak Color Management software and other proprietary Kodak imaging technology, in a projector platform from JVC. The projector uses new JVC D-ILA three million pixel chips. The new JVC chip offers more than double the resolution currently available in digital cinema projectors, says Mayson. When you combine that gain in resolution with our color management technology, we are coming a lot closer to our goal of matching the best film quality available on screens today. Hope you didn't cheat on your driving eyesight test, Tyrone 8-) mike Mike, Mike, Mike ... You seem to be basing your original comment on something you read rather than having seen the results with your own eyes. That doesn't lend much credence to your POV. It's interesting to note that at least one of the major theaters in California, where we saw the digital movies, sometimes projected the same movie conventionally, since not every screen in the multiplex was set up for digital projection, and some movies were popular enough to be played on more than one screen. In all instances when we compared the digital projection with conventional projection, the results showed no clear superiority of film over digital. On the contrary, the digitally projected movies offered more than the film, as noted in my earlier message. Further, this article refers to the Kodak system. Is that the only system in use? I doubt it L My eyesight is quite good, actually ... no need to cheat on that portion of my driving exam ;-)) Ciao and Cheers, Tyrone -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Navigatori satellitari, visori notturni, telescopi, binocoli. Tutto questo lo trovi solo da Miotti Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=2098d=28-10
Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or maybe it means the sensor Pentax is using is not quite as good as Canon's. I tend to think one cannot draw any conclusions yet. There is some evidence that the Canon sensor is a bit better, or Canon's handling of it is better. It's a more developed technology than the sensor in the *istD/D100. However, I do think that some of the problem is not the lenses but what digital post-processing does to the images from the lenses. I don't recall there being a great lamenting of chromatic aberration in Pentax lenses back when Fujichrome Velvia was king. I KNOW that some truly great Nikon lenses exhibit problems on Nikon digitals that they did not on film, and the Kodak N14 is almost legendary for inducing funky performance on very fine lenses. Try comparing the *istD to the Canon D30, which was Canon's first digital camera. That sort of points out how far Canon has come, and how good the *istD is for a first DSLR. DJE
Re: Optio S
I second that. These days, this is just the way how I use my cameras as well: Optio S is such a great take it anywhere camera that it gets most of snapshooting. For that purpose, results are just great. OTOH, when I pick up MZ-S with 24 or 77 attached to it, my first thought is like Oh yeah, I'm home here. More serious photography belongs there. Especially BW stuff and slides. And I have to add, I still ~really~ like film. Not that some day, I won't go and buy an istD or its future reincarnation. Matjaz The Sony S85 I picked up for myself is 4 megapixels, compact, and has some additional features, but looks like a 6x7 compared to the Optio S! I'm beginning to think of digital in terms of snapshots and film in terms of serious pictures where magnification and detail will be enjoyed. That Optio S is sure a sweetheart! Regards, Bob S.
Re: 5 Mpixel price breakthough
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, J. C. O'Connell wrote: I just saw on TV that gateway has a 5Mpixel digital PS for $249.99 I think 35mm film's days are really numbered. Why does a DSLR cost $1250.00 more WITHOUT a lens??? Apples and Oranges. Why does a pro SLR cost so much more than a film point-and-shoot? The sensor size is the same (35mm film), right? Much of the answer is the LENS part. I think it's interesting that Canon is using a big print apparently made from the 300D DSLR as a sales technique. It looks like Cibachrome or something, which is a bit of a cheat in and of itself. However, it's rather like using a picture taken by a pro on Fuji Velvia with some $1500 lens on a Canon film Rebel and saying look, this camera takes great pictures! DJE
Re: istD review - finally
You should check dpreview - it's there! http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentaxistd/ Alex Sarbu At last a comprehensive review on the *ist D has finally filtered through! It is a pretty extensive and balanced review, I am glad he used the FA 50mm 1.4 lens in the tests but would have liked to have seen results from some of Pentaxes more exotic zoom lenses included. It will be interesting to see the final conclusion on the *ist D on Steve's Digicams site, he completed the review a while ago but the conclusion is still to come. Harry -- Harold Owen
Re: Cinema projection - WAS - Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See
You score 8½ for intellectual snobbery g Infamy! Infamy! They've all got it in for me! Kenneth Williams (RIP), Carry on Caesar, IIRC.
Re: Digital Into Slides?
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:00:52 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe I've already read this here and don't remember it. Been lots of discussion how many labs can now do digital printing (well, a limited few). And I think there has been some discussion that one can get their jpegs (or whatever) converted into film. Hasn't there? Or am I remembering incorrectly? Can jpegs be converted into slides? Yet? If not yet, is it forseeably doable? I can get it done locally here in Melbourne Australia. I can upload the images via the internet and get them delivered at a cost of AU$2.75 each (inc tax) (US$1.95) plus delivery - it's just as easy for me to pick them up. I haven't used the service yet, but I plan to as I have a presentation to do and would like to put some informational slides in with my Kodachromes. Leon http://www.bluering.org.au http://www.bluering.org.au/leon
RE: Digital Into Slides? + projectors.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MS wrote: Aside from that, slide film will be slow to depart. Damn sure I will not be going to digital, without my LX filled and latterly developed with slide film for the Christmas annual show. I like the inconvenience of the big screen going up Maybe I've already read this here and don't remember it. Been lots of discussion how many labs can now do digital printing (well, a limited few). And I think there has been some discussion that one can get their jpegs (or whatever) converted into film. Hasn't there? Or am I remembering incorrectly? Can jpegs be converted into slides? Yet? If not yet, is it forseeably doable? Interesting replies on this and pleased to see digital images can be made into slides. What I clumsily tried to convey (whilst in, and still in pain - I tore some muscles in an accident) is that no matter what digital can offer for instant results and film cost saving, the annual slide show in the Smith household is not going to disappear. I am delighted that the new and excellent *ist D can also offer images which can be transferred to slide. I will most certainly be buying my first new Pentax camera very shortly; but I suspect that slide film in an LX will still do 99% of the Christmas shows. As a matter of interest, are there any dual 35mm/MF projectors made? This year I have some slides from my 67 to show too. Malcolm
A thought ...
Since we saw the announcement of a 67 Limited lens might we also see IS (equivalent) first on the 645 67? Just a thought. It would be consistent with Pentax' approach to Pro. CRB
Virus
Just to be sure, I checked with my computer technician and, after looking at my PC, he has assured me there is no virus on my system. Anything coming in my name must be from elsewhere.
Re: Digital Into Slides?
Can jpegs be converted into slides? Yet? If not yet, is it forseeably doable? Yes, they can be made into slides by a service bureau, but I'm told it costs about $5 EACH. Primarily this is done by pros, although apparently folks who like to do photo-based art in photoshop sometimes have their pics output to slide. Ken Rockwell (kenrockwell.com) talks about having it done to determine the resolution of film and his conclusion is that it takes a 24MP image to burn a slide from digital that looks like a slide shot in the camera. DJE
RE: 35/2.0 screwmounts
Both of the smaller (49mm filter thread) 35mm F2.0 lenses, the super-takumar and SMC takumar lenses have the yellowing problem, but it is the glass, not the coatings. They can be cleared by subjecting them to UV light thankfully. The earlier large 35mm F2.0 Super-Takumar (67mm filter thread) doesnt yellow and is an OUTSTANDING quality lens. I used one for a few years before I cleared my smaller ones. JCO J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 2:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 35/2.0 screwmounts Got a question for those better acquainted with the universe of Takumar screw-mounts than I. I've got a 35/2.0 Super-Takumar (new type) which has a yellow discoloration. I'm told it's a common problem for this lens due to aging of the coating. Since I'm shooting mostly slide film I'd like to get another 35/2.0 screw-mount to supplement it. I've been holding out for an SMC Takumar 35/2.0, but I haven't seen any on the used market. Do these lenses show up on the used market, or are they all being hoarded like the 15s? I've been thinking about looking for one of the older, larger type. The optical design appears to be simply a 50/1.4-type lens with a negative element in front of it rather than the more evolved retrofocus design of the later version. It's an unusual design, and I don't know what to expect. How does this version perform relative to the later, smaller version? DJE
Re: Optio S
Bob, You're singing my tune. That is exactly what I have done. The Optio S (when I can get it away from my wife) takes all the snaps. Sometimes I have to use my Coolpix 990. Anyway, All the snapshots, family stuff, etc. - anything I would have shot on 35mm is now shot on the little digi's. My 67 is reserved for when I really care about the image quality or a paying job. The 35mm gear is basically all sold. --- Bruce Tuesday, October 28, 2003, 10:51:46 AM, you wrote: Rac Dan mentioned his Optio S today. Rac I'm sad to report that the Optio S is off with my daughter now. Rac The thing is so damned cute that I'm thinking about buying Rac another one and chucking film entirely... Rac (well not really) (g) Rac I had it around my neck for the past two days, and I Rac couldn't tell I was carrying a camera. Plus, I get 4 megapixels Rac when I take a photo and a 12X zoom. If I could resolve to live Rac with that level of resolution, a digital SLR would be pointless. Rac The Sony S85 I picked up for myself is 4 megapixels, Rac compact, and has some additional features, but looks like a 6x7 Rac compared to the Optio S! I'm beginning to think of digital in Rac terms of snapshots and film in terms of serious pictures where Rac magnification and detail will be enjoyed. Rac That Optio S is sure a sweetheart! Rac Regards, Bob S.
Re: 5 Mpixel price breakthough
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 2:47 PM Subject: Re: 5 Mpixel price breakthough Apples and Oranges. Why does a pro SLR cost so much more than a film point-and-shoot? The sensor size is the same (35mm film), right? Much of the answer is the LENS part. Um, there is no LENS included with the cost of a pro SLR. The Pro SLR can use the same lenses as a consumer SLR. Crappy or good. I think it's interesting that Canon is using a big print apparently made from the 300D DSLR as a sales technique. It looks like Cibachrome or something, which is a bit of a cheat in and of itself. However, it's rather like using a picture taken by a pro on Fuji Velvia with some $1500 lens on a Canon film Rebel and saying look, this camera takes great pictures! But that's the point isn't it? You can buy a cheap body and REALLY good glass and get great results. You could also buy a REALLY expensive body and crap glass and get crappy results. Christian
RE: A thought ...
-Original Message- From: Collin Brendemuehl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Since we saw the announcement of a 67 Limited lens Did I miss something? tv
Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See
Try comparing the *istD to the Canon D30, which was Canon's first digital camera. That sort of points out how far Canon has come, and how good the *istD is for a first DSLR. DJE Good pt. Marnie aka Doe
Re: Digital Into Slides?
Of course digital images can be transfered to positive transparency film -- slide film if you will. But why not shoot film if you want film? Real slides will be cheaper and of higher resolution. Can't imagine why anyone would want to work backwards from digital to a slide. Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BW is damn near impossible to find now (but won't be by Wednesday) as there has been a run on it here, apparently! Aside from that, slide film will be slow to depart. Damn sure I will not be going to digital, without my LX filled and latterly developed with slide film for the Christmas annual show. I like the inconvenience of the big screen going up Malcolm Maybe I've already read this here and don't remember it. Been lots of discussion how many labs can now do digital printing (well, a limited few). And I think there has been some discussion that one can get their jpegs (or whatever) converted into film. Hasn't there? Or am I remembering incorrectly? Can jpegs be converted into slides? Yet? If not yet, is it forseeably doable? Marnie aka Doe
Re: 5 Mpixel price breakthough
On 28 Oct 2003 at 10:43, Mark Roberts wrote: I was the Components Engineer responsible for optical sensors (as well as discrete semiconductors, crystals, filters, oscillators and several other commodities) at Harris Corp's RF Communications Division at the time I got the $1000.00 per unit price quote (for a quantity of 1000 pieces). I went through official Philips channels (this was before Dalsa bought Philips' CCD products division) and spoke to the Philips rep myself. I appreciate your position however I'd bet that deals would be made specifically with camera manufacturers. You know yourself that niche markets (Harris would have been one in the case of CCD not for RF transistors of course) purchases don't generally get as good a deal as volume purchasers who can provide projections for future purchase plans. It was also a couple of years ago. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See
On 28 Oct 2003 at 17:23, Alin Flaider wrote: I went to the theater to see the technicalities behind Star War episodes presented as reference in the above link. I did notice almost involuntarily the pixelization and general lack of details. There's no real comparison to the film, HDTV is orders of magnitude below. All I read between the lines is convenience and costs cut. To deliver crap as an inexpensive alternative is one thing, but to extoll its virtues and push it like the only option is plain profit pursuit played on the audience ignorance. I'm truly horrified. I attended a film industry QA conference discussing the impact of digital production a couple of years ago, one of George's technical cronies was on the panel and taking questions. The decision to go with digital was based by comparing the final output of both media. Digital projection with it's obvious no-loss data path and film including its inter-generational losses due to copying. So in essence the current digital cameras can't compete in terms of absolute quality relative to first of second generation film but at the screen it's pretty even. As an aside production costs were cut dramatically even after factoring in the purchase of the cameras and editing equipment. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Digital Into Slides?
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003, Paul Stenquist wrote: Of course digital images can be transfered to positive transparency film -- slide film if you will. But why not shoot film if you want film? Real slides will be cheaper and of higher resolution. Can't imagine why anyone would want to work backwards from digital to a slide. I've considered it (but I have a friend who can lend me his slide printer). Shoot digital on vacation for easier editting, printing, and webpage building . Generate slides for showing at home because TV resolution (even HDTV) is too low for satisfactory viewing results. The other option is to shoot slides and convert to digital for printing and web work. The downsides to going in that direction are lack of instant preview while travelling, higher per image cost, dealing with dust while scanning, and the reduced dynamic range that you get in most scanners (especially consumer level ones) compared to most digital cameras. I haven't tried the slide printer to see how good the results are. alex
Re: OT: Digital cinema projection
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You seem to be basing your original comment on something you read rather than having seen the results with your own eyes. That doesn't lend much credence to your POV. Agreed. But this is baby technology that very few (comparitively) people have had the opportunity to see. What I quoted, which seems to be an already obsolete system, was the one with the highest density chip and therefore presumably best definition. As this is only about 4x the definition of the best projector we have at work, which produces an obviously grainy image at about 1/10 of cinema projection screen size, I drew some reasonbable conclusions. It's interesting to note that at least one of the major theaters in California, where we saw the digital movies, sometimes projected the same movie conventionally, since not every screen in the multiplex was set up for digital projection, and some movies were popular enough to be played on more than one screen. In all instances when we compared the digital projection with conventional projection, the results showed no clear superiority of film over digital. On the contrary, the digitally projected movies offered more than the film, as noted in my earlier message. What is even more interesting is that different digital projection systems were used for The Phantom Menace to evaluate consumer reaction. There are at least five systems in development but only one available at the moment for purchse. Further, this article refers to the Kodak system. Is that the only system in use? I doubt it L See above - there is only one available but it's not, and never will be, the Kodak one. Looks like there will be a system installed in a UK cinema soon. _If_ they show anything interesting, I will have to go and look at it. m
Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See
On 28 Oct 2003 at 13:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try comparing the *istD to the Canon D30, which was Canon's first digital camera. That sort of points out how far Canon has come, and how good the *istD is for a first DSLR. Oh come on, first DSLR, OK the first that they successfully produced after having the advantage of being able to dissect and reverse engineer all the other manufacturers successful productions over several years. IOW they had no excuse to not get it near perfect. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Cinema projection - WAS - Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See
Hi, John Francis wrote: You score 8½ for intellectual snobbery g Infamy! Infamy! They've all got it in for me! Kenneth Williams (RIP), Carry on Caesar, IIRC. Cleo. Rambling Sid Rumpo
Re: istD review - finally
Reading the review, I wonder how the camera determines which AF point to choose for the AF system. Does the camera always makes the correct choice? On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 14:23, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: on 28.10.03 13:43, Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should check dpreview - it's there! http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentaxistd/ Nice to see that *istD performs so well! There are few small grips, but for first, real DSLR very good results overall! And AFAIK - it was first Pentax digicamera to have highly recommended designation by Dpreview. Nice! AF performs as I expected - thanks to cross sensors it was very fast in good light conditions, but due to 0EV minimum light sensitivity, it performed poorer than EOS 10D in dark places (also I've noticed, that it usually focused about two times slower in poor light than MZ-S with its linear sensors). -- Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Digital Into Slides?
On 28 Oct 2003 at 14:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe I've already read this here and don't remember it. Been lots of discussion how many labs can now do digital printing (well, a limited few). And I think there has been some discussion that one can get their jpegs (or whatever) converted into film. Hasn't there? Or am I remembering incorrectly? Can jpegs be converted into slides? Yet? If not yet, is it forseeably doable? CRT based film printers are used to produce slides from digital files for at least ten years. Virtually any digital file type can be printed, word docs, PPT, PDF, TIFF, JPG, GIF etc. Most systems use a high resolution CRT and colour filter wheel to output the files per colour which is captured by an automated camera with pre-focused lens. The quality is usually specified based on the number of horizontal lines that the printer uses to form the image, the best units generate 8000 scan lines, high res even for 35mm. Search polaroid palette Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Digital Into Slides?
because some magazines are backwards enough to not be able to cope with digital submissions, and like it or not, my scanned slides look better after i have done some tweaking of them in Photoshop. Herb - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 5:03 PM Subject: Re: Digital Into Slides? Of course digital images can be transfered to positive transparency film -- slide film if you will. But why not shoot film if you want film? Real slides will be cheaper and of higher resolution. Can't imagine why anyone would want to work backwards from digital to a slide. Paul
BW Digital printing
I'm not having much luck printing BW digitally. I'm using a Epson 1280 and tried a few different papers. The main problem is the blacks arent deep enuff. Is there a particular brand of paper ( I prefer glossy ) that is know to have the best deep blacks JCO J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com
Re: istD review - finally
me too. Does anyone select the focus point or use the automatic setting? For those of you who do, how well is it working? It seemed pretty slow to select the focus point manually (and I don't trust the camera to know what I want in focus). Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 8:33 PM Subject: Re: istD review - finally I've been using mine set to the center AF point most of the time. I find it easier to focus and recompose in my usual shooting than to miss the shot because the camera picked the wrong point. Cory
Re: Digital Into Slides?
I recently had a number of digital images made into slides by a local pro lab. I did not like the results. The film was something by Kodak (not sure what). The contrast increased greatly and color shifted from what I had on my screen. To get decent results would, I expect, take much experimenting and calibration, at great cost. I may have to do it again someday, but I won't have it done often. Shooting slides from prints also does not give great results, but perhaps better results than going from digital directly to a slide. Next time, I think I'll make a print I am satisfied with on my Epson 870, then have the lab shoot that. Joe
Re: AF Select (WAS Finally)
Well, when I was taking racing photos a couple weeks ago, I was able to select a focus point for the shot I wanted and pan as the cars came through the frame until it was where I wanted it and bam, trip the shutter. It'd be great for tripod shooting. For snagging kids pretending to be Tigger or playing with hula hoops, auto is not the answer. Cory likes the hula shot seen here: - Original Message - From: Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:03 PM Subject: Re: istD review - finally me too. Does anyone select the focus point or use the automatic setting? For those of you who do, how well is it working? It seemed pretty slow to select the focus point manually (and I don't trust the camera to know what I want in focus). Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 8:33 PM Subject: Re: istD review - finally I've been using mine set to the center AF point most of the time. I find it easier to focus and recompose in my usual shooting than to miss the shot because the camera picked the wrong point. Cory --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.530 / Virus Database: 325 - Release Date: 10/22/2003
Re: BW Digital printing
the 1280 with Epson inks will do fair to middling at best. you need to replace its inks with a different set of inks not from Epson to get the best BW results. Herb... - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 8:48 PM Subject: BW Digital printing I'm not having much luck printing BW digitally. I'm using a Epson 1280 and tried a few different papers. The main problem is the blacks arent deep enuff. Is there a particular brand of paper ( I prefer glossy ) that is know to have the best deep blacks
Re: AF Select (WAS Finally)
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:14 PM Subject: Re: AF Select (WAS Finally) Well, when I was taking racing photos a couple weeks ago, I was able to select a focus point for the shot I wanted and pan as the cars came through the frame until it was where I wanted it and bam, trip the shutter. It'd be great for tripod shooting. For snagging kids pretending to be Tigger or playing with hula hoops, auto is not the answer. Cory likes the hula shot seen here: seen where? ;-)
Re: AF Select (WAS Finally)
duh...uh... Here: http://community.webshots.com/photo/93489626/96956971iPqszz Some jaggies in this presentation that are NOT in the original. Not sure why. Cory - Original Message - From: Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:26 PM Subject: Re: AF Select (WAS Finally) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:14 PM Subject: Re: AF Select (WAS Finally) Well, when I was taking racing photos a couple weeks ago, I was able to select a focus point for the shot I wanted and pan as the cars came through the frame until it was where I wanted it and bam, trip the shutter. It'd be great for tripod shooting. For snagging kids pretending to be Tigger or playing with hula hoops, auto is not the answer. Cory likes the hula shot seen here: seen where? ;-) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.530 / Virus Database: 325 - Release Date: 10/22/2003
istD @ Cord
I got my grubby little hands on one tonight. Really nice feel. Also, for anyone interested they got in ... K300/4 @ $300 M200/4 @ $80 M100/4 Macro @ $200 Extension tube set K (uncoupled) @ $30 All in excellent condition in original boxes, cases included! And a black MX -- significant brassing but shutter sounds really nice. Collin
RE: Optio S
-- -Original Message- -- From: Chris Murray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 2:21 PM -- -- On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- -- Dan mentioned his Optio S today. -- -- I'm sad to report that the Optio S is off with my daughter now. -- The thing is so damned cute that I'm thinking about buying -- another one and chucking film entirely... -- (well not really) (g) -- -- I had it around my neck for the past two days, and I -- couldn't tell I was carrying a camera. Plus, I get 4 -- megapixels when I take a photo and a 12X zoom. If I could -- resolve to live with that level of resolution, a digital SLR -- would be pointless. -- -- The Sony S85 I picked up for myself is 4 megapixels, -- compact, and has some additional features, but looks like a -- 6x7 compared to the Optio S! I'm beginning to think of -- digital in terms of snapshots and film in terms of serious -- pictures where magnification and detail will be enjoyed. -- -- That Optio S is sure a sweetheart! -- -- -- I'm really happy with mine. Its nice to have a camera with me at all -- times. I was out shooting with my 35mm gear this weekend, -- and I put the -- optio S in my camera bag and couldn't find it LOL. -- -- I've only had it for a month, and I'm up to 900 images on it. All -- snapshots, but it will allow me to almost always shoot black -- and white -- now :) Actually, I'm shooting more film now than before I got the S. -- -- - Chris -- -- -- -- Chris Murray /\ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / ASCII My Optio S sits in a bag with the *ist D at the moment, but it did get over 3300 shots over a 7 month period... It has not gotten touched since I got the *ist D. Though it will still be used as a camera that will always be with me - it is a perfect camera to carry with you. I can still see snapshooting with it when I do not have the *ist D with me. The funny thing is, I showed the *ist D to the former squadron photographer - he shoots the Nikon D1H and D1X, which is how I got to be familiar with them. His first comment was how it was so small. He feared that he would not be able to find it floating in his gear bag :-) I commented that a grip was available. He thought he would need it since he had gotten used to the Nikon's size. My shooting season is about over but I still see my film use being the same as before. Last weekend I ended up shooting a roll of 35mm slides, two rolls of medium format rolls, and about 70 rolls of digital. Just wanted to add my little bit, Cesar
RE: istD review - finally
It is one of the things that I really like about the *ist D, and actually I really got to use it most recently with the camera and am getting a workflow... I rarely use the Auto setting, but I do use the select on the non-center spot, and when I have to I use the center I just spin the dial. After a couple of times I have gotten used to it already. It helped as I was taking some phtoos of some presentations at a lunch this week. I don't know how I will feel going back to the MZ-S when shooting film. All the 35mm I have shot lately is with one of my LXen. Interesting threads lately on this great list, César -- -Original Message- -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 8:34 PM -- -- I've been using mine set to the center AF point most of the -- time. I find it -- easier to focus and recompose in my usual shooting than to -- miss the shot -- because the camera picked the wrong point. -- -- Cory -- -- - Original Message - -- From: Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 5:30 PM -- -- Reading the review, I wonder how the camera determines -- which AF point to -- choose for the AF system. -- Does the camera always makes the correct choice? -- -- On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 14:23, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: -- on 28.10.03 13:43, Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu at -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- --You should check dpreview - it's there! --http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentaxistd/ -- Nice to see that *istD performs so well! There are few -- small grips, but -- for -- first, real DSLR very good results overall! And AFAIK - -- it was first -- Pentax -- digicamera to have highly recommended designation by -- Dpreview. Nice! -- AF performs as I expected - thanks to cross sensors it -- was very fast in -- good -- light conditions, but due to 0EV minimum light -- sensitivity, it performed -- poorer than EOS 10D in dark places (also I've noticed, -- that it usually -- focused about two times slower in poor light than MZ-S -- with its linear -- sensors). -- -- -- Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: OT- Nikon announces new scanners
Anyone want a deal on a Canon FS4000? From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aha. 4000dpi, 14-bit scanning in the low-end model. Maybe it's time to replace the CoolScan III.
Re: OT: Sigma SD10, preview and samples
The ISO 800 and 1600 ones look worse than the 10D or *istD samples at those ISOs I've seen. But they are different samples, so its unfair to compare. Alan Chan wrote: Here are some SD10 samples I think are pretty good. http://www.pbase.com/rickdecker Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: BW Digital printing
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: BW Digital printing I'm not having much luck printing BW digitally. I'm using a Epson 1280 and tried a few different papers. The main problem is the blacks arent deep enuff. Is there a particular brand of paper ( I prefer glossy ) that is know to have the best deep blacks I always liked Zone VI Brilliant. Of course, it's blacks come from silver. I think if you are going to insist on using a compromised approach, you are going to get compromised results. William Robb
Re: 5 Mpixel price breakthough
They produce their own, so they don't have to pay Sony any profit. Plus its CMOS, which is a cheaper process. J. C. O'Connell wrote: That cant be right or CANON couldnt be selling the 6Mpixel rebel digital for 999.99 retail. JCO J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com -Original Message- From: alex wetmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 6:49 PM To: pentax discuss Subject: Re: 5 Mpixel price breakthough On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, J. C. O'Connell wrote: I just saw on TV that gateway has a 5Mpixel digital PS for $249.99 I think 35mm film's days are really numbered. Why does a DSLR cost $1250.00 more WITHOUT a lens??? The CCD in a DSLR has about 10x the surface area (23.4mm by 15.6mm vs 7.2mm by 5.3mm). Big chips cost much much more to make because they get lower yields. The last thing that I found said that the sensor in the Pentax *ist D and Nikon D100 cost about $700 each in quantity. alex
Re: OT- Nikon announces new scanners
I was thinking the same thing... Andrew Robinson John Francis wrote: Film is not yet dead... http://www.imaging-resource.com/NEWS/1067358499.html Aha. 4000dpi, 14-bit scanning in the low-end model. Maybe it's time to replace the CoolScan III.
Re: istD review - finally
Its about time. At least it got the highly recommended rating, not that people pay that much attention anymore. The reviews have been accused of being biased towards Canon. Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote: You should check dpreview - it's there! http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentaxistd/ Alex Sarbu --- Acasa.ro vine cu albumele, tu vino doar cu pozele ;) http://poze.acasa.ro/
Re: OT- Nikon announces new scanners
Is it me or does it seem that the new Coolscan V is nothing more then the current Coolscan 4000 minus the ability to batch scan via optional adapters? It does appear that it will price lower then the current discounted Coolscan 4000. Butch Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. Hermann Hesse (Demian)
