Re: Confused in Israel: digi backup to digi?!
Hi, Indeed, if one goes on paid assignment or to the field where conditions are known to be rough, one needs a backup. Otherwise, fresh set of batteries, film and/or memory cards should do, I guess. But then I suppose you confirmed my reasoning, unless one is paid for the shoot, one does not necessarily needs backup. it isn't just professionals that need it though. If you spend thousands of pounds, dollars, euros or whatever on a foreign holiday where you're going to be shooting a lot you'd be rather foolish not to have some spare equipment in case of failure. And for all the reasons mentioned it's better to have identical equipment. I've had cameras and lenses fail on me in out-of-the-way places, but I've been able to carry on because I've had spares. I've seen people whose batteries have run out, and they've been in tears because they couldn't get any new ones. -- Cheers, Bob
Thrre months later
Frank [ Co.] I guess I'm only superficially interested in the *st D scenario , I was in Paris last week and went to Boulevard Photo[Boulevard BeauMarchais] which has about ten camera stores selling mostly used but some new equpment, and got to see/handle one for the first time..very cute, but I still can't get my head around the fact that my beloved 18mm and 24mm won't be WIDE any more, [I like WIDE, have a 17mm fisheye and a 15mm and 12mm for my voigtlander bessas to prove it!] so will be sticking with the current LX/MX scenario and helping to prop up Fuji/Kodak film sales. Whilst on the Paris scenario, the shops in blvd beaumarchais are fascinating but REALLY EXPENSIVE [even without the strong euro factor] so for anybody going , worth a stroll but no bargains to be had. For example I just bought a Polaroid 195 on Ebay for USD 225, saw two there marked up at EUR 395! Talking of this I would give my eye teeth for an NPC polaroid back to fit an LX,saw one on Ebay last yaer but missed it, anyone out there got one that needs a home? Also will provide a good home for an LX that is being cast aside in favour of the digital march! Onwards and upwards! Clive Antibes France
Re: OT - PDA photography content request
On 13/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: you mean aside from sucking down reviews from www.dpreview.com? they seem to be enabled for electronic subscription of some kind if you have the right software. Herb, I had a look around the DPReview site but couldn't find any mention of this - have you a reference please? Thanks, Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: OT - PDA photography content request
see just under the review photos on the top where it says klip? follow the link and see if there is a Palm connection of some kind. Herb - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 6:16 AM Subject: Re: OT - PDA photography content request On 13/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: you mean aside from sucking down reviews from www.dpreview.com? they seem to be enabled for electronic subscription of some kind if you have the right software. Herb, I had a look around the DPReview site but couldn't find any mention of this - have you a reference please?
Re: Thrre months later
Clive evans a écrit: Frank [ Co.] I guess I'm only superficially interested in the *st D scenario , I was in Paris last week and went to Boulevard Photo[Boulevard BeauMarchais] which That's too Boulevard du crime !! has about ten camera stores selling mostly used but some new equpment, and got to see/handle one for the first time..very cute, but I still can't get my head around the fact that my beloved 18mm and 24mm won't be WIDE any more, [I like WIDE, have a 17mm fisheye and a 15mm and 12mm for my voigtlander bessas to prove it!] so will be sticking with the current LX/MX scenario and helping to prop up Fuji/Kodak film sales. Whilst on the Paris scenario, the shops in blvd beaumarchais are fascinating but REALLY EXPENSIVE [even without the strong euro factor] so Photo gear price is very high in France, both new and used. for anybody going , worth a stroll but no bargains to be had. For example I just bought a Polaroid 195 on Ebay for USD 225, saw two there marked up at EUR 395! Talking of this I would give my eye teeth for an NPC polaroid back to fit an LX,saw one on Ebay last yaer but missed it, anyone out there got one that needs a home? Also will provide a good home for an LX that is being cast aside in favour of the digital march! Onwards and upwards! Clive Antibes France Michel Toulouse France
Re: Confused in Israel: digi backup to digi?!
Hi! it isn't just professionals that need it though. If you spend thousands of pounds, dollars, euros or whatever on a foreign holiday where you're going to be shooting a lot you'd be rather foolish not to have some spare equipment in case of failure. And for all the reasons mentioned it's better to have identical equipment. I've had cameras and lenses fail on me in out-of-the-way places, but I've been able to carry on because I've had spares. I've seen people whose batteries have run out, and they've been in tears because they couldn't get any new ones. I suppose it would be prudent to say g that I am not experienced/shooting enough. Except the shutter failure of my ME Super that wasn't possible to see until the film was processed g, I haven't had yet any gear problems. I can see your point though. Well, I suppose my confusion is resolved. Just in case - my apologies for anyone whose eyebrows were raised... Boris
Re: A*200/4 Macro manual?
RE: A*200/4 Macro manual? Mark, I'd love to see a copy of that manual. Any chance of a scanned PDF? Best regards Ian
Re: Used DSLR prices
Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 13 Jan 2004, J. C. O'Connell wrote: Old Pentium (I) PCs may still work too, but that doesnt mean I would still want to use them. Not even as a firewall? The analogy does not work in my opinion anyway. After a point (1GHz PIV for example) you don't really need much more processing power, Yep. I'm using a 1GHz machine now. I don't fell the need for any more speed, really. Even for working on 90 megabyte images in Photoshop. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Used DSLR prices
Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13 Jan 2004 at 17:04, J. C. O'Connell wrote: Im not talking how long its sold, Im talking how long you want to use it. I have SLRs I still use that are 40 yrs old, I wouldnt use any digital camera more than about 5 yrs old. We are now approaching the point of diminishing returns. DSLRs will have a longer service life than earlier ones as the resolution is approaching that of the taking lenses. You *will* see people using Nikon D1x's when they're 5 years old and older. And I expect they'll be pretty satisfied users. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Ducks
Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:38:39 -0500, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I liked Carlin's stuff - if he used that phrase I suspect he was taking off on it too. Might have been part of one of the Hippy Dippy Weatherman or radio bits. You got it. Al Sleet, the Hippy Dippy Weatherman. I'm not surprised that the joke predates Carlin, but his delivery as Al Sleet really made it work. :) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Used DSLR prices
Yep. I'm using a 1GHz machine now. I don't fell the need for any more speed, really. Even for working on 90 megabyte images in Photoshop. I was working on some images today. While processing them the file was just over 1 Gb, after flattening and saving as TIFF, it is 310Mb now. ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com (*)o(*) Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ducks
Might have been part of one of the Hippy Dippy Weatherman or radio bits. The radar shows a line of thunderstorms across the Northeast. It also shows a wave of Russian ICBMs, so I wouldn't sweat the thunderstorms. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Used DSLR prices
At 12:04 AM 15/01/2004 +1030, you wrote: Yep. I'm using a 1GHz machine now. I don't fell the need for any more speed, really. Even for working on 90 megabyte images in Photoshop. I was working on some images today. While processing them the file was just over 1 Gb, SORRY it was meant to be just over 1/2 Gb 500-550Mb ;-) after flattening and saving as TIFF, it is 310Mb now. ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com (*)o(*) Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] (*)o(*) Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Questions: M 50/2.0 - any good?
Pretty much my experience. It's nice to have both, I wouldn't get rid of one over the other. William in Utah - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 6:49 PM Subject: Re: Questions: M 50/2.0 - any good? - Original Message - From: William Johnson Subject: Re: Questions: M 50/2.0 - any good? Well, I have to go along with this too, if you can afford it. I have 4 50/1.4's and use any of them more than my 50/2's and 1.7's combined. The M50/1.4 does make a wonderful combo with the ME Super, though I also like the K50/1.4. The M is probably easier to find and should cost a bit less. The K and M 50mm f/1.4 lenses are really completely different beasts. The M has a creaminess to its image that the K doesn't have. OTOH, I suspect that the K is the sharper, contrastier lens. William Robb
Re: Used DSLR prices
mapson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:04 AM 15/01/2004 +1030, you wrote: Yep. I'm using a 1GHz machine now. I don't fell the need for any more speed, really. Even for working on 90 megabyte images in Photoshop. I was working on some images today. While processing them the file was just over 1 Gb, SORRY it was meant to be just over 1/2 Gb 500-550Mb ;-) after flattening and saving as TIFF, it is 310Mb now. ;-) I've worked on multi-layer images around 300Mb. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: DSLR future wish-list
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:47:24 +0300, Boris Liberman wrote: Bluetooh is either forbidden in Israel or was forbidden until quite recently. BT is competing with WiFi and so on. The keyword however is high-end. That seems to be the case in the US, at least with regard to consumer electronics. All of the stuff I see with Bluetooth is either high-end or techno-gizmos I don't have a use for (or both). What I want from Bluetooth is to get rid of that rats nest of wiring in my stereo system. Leave the speaker wires, but get rid of all of the line level interconnects. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
Re: Confused in Israel: digi backup to digi?!
My situation may be slightly diiferent,as i'm planning on getting a 6mp body as well as keeping a 2.74mp body, not backing up with same size. Pretty much for what Tom has said.I would like to put the longer zoom on a 6mp body and put the short zoom on the 2.74mp body for those quick portrait shots which are herd to do at some horse show facilities with a long zoom,plus the scale factor. Wither i purchase a *kist and utilize 10-14 K,M42 and Kaf lenses or stick with Nikon were i have faster glass,and more money put into,remains a huge hummm for me still. :-) The D2h is still a mistery,as i keep hearing to many different reports on it,but still sounds good for my work,or the *kist which mande me think about with new firmware already. Prices on D1H's and D1X's are falling and may fall far enough that i purchase one of those for the main camera and use the D1 as the spare Dave This one would take a dissertation to answer fully. The short version: The amateur really does not need one. Back when most of us shot both BW and Color it was convenient to have one body loaded with BW and one loaded with Kodachrome. But that is not the way things are these days, mostly. Now on the other hand a working pro has lots of reasons to want two or more, preferably identical, bodies: 1. Instant lens change by switching cameras. 2. Non-stop shooting by changing cameras. 3. Instant film change by switching bodies. 4. Reliability insurance (something breaks, keep shooting with another body. 5. Legal protection (in the case of 4, failure to have a second body makes one liable to legal action. Even when your contract says you are not at fault for equipment failures, most judges would find a pro not having back up equipment as being negligent. While items 1 to 4 are nice for an amateur they are not essential
Re: Ducks
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 08:36:41 -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: You got it. Al Sleet, the Hippy Dippy Weatherman. I'm not surprised that the joke predates Carlin, but his delivery as Al Sleet really made it work. :) But the weather radar is also showing an incoming squadron of Russian ICBMs, so I wouldn't sweat the thundershowers! [Sorry to the Russians in the audience, but it _was_ the Cold War when Carlin came up with that skit.] TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
Re: Ducks
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 08:45:14 -0500, Steve Desjardins wrote: Might have been part of one of the Hippy Dippy Weatherman or radio bits. The radar shows a line of thunderstorms across the Northeast. It also shows a wave of Russian ICBMs, so I wouldn't sweat the thunderstorms. Ooops. I guess I need to read ahead more. I just pressed 'send' on almost the same line. :-) TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
Re: Ducks
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:02:03 -0500, Ann Sanfedele wrote: as I said -- just a kid :) It's nice to be just a kid somewhere. Most of the places I go I'm an old fart. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
Re: Ducks
LOL. It's funny that we both thought of the same line. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/14/04 09:17AM On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 08:45:14 -0500, Steve Desjardins wrote: Might have been part of one of the Hippy Dippy Weatherman or radio bits. The radar shows a line of thunderstorms across the Northeast. It also shows a wave of Russian ICBMs, so I wouldn't sweat the thunderstorms. Ooops. I guess I need to read ahead more. I just pressed 'send' on almost the same line. :-) TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
RE: Used DSLR prices
A DSLR is not a PC. The software doesn't have to change and the job doesn't change. Once you have a resolution you find acceptable (Some are waiting; I'm happy now) the camera will function until its breaks, you can't read the cards, or you just want a new toy. IMHO, the last factor is what limits the lifetime of the cameras. It is also equally true for film cameras, which is why I have five of them. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/13/04 05:02PM Old Pentium (I) PCs may still work too, but that doesnt mean I would still want to use them. JCO J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 2:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Used DSLR prices Why should build quality *not* be important? The shelf life, as you call it, by which I presume you mean useful life, is as long as the build quality allows it to be. Simply because there's something out there that is considered more modern technology doesn't mean that an existing camera has outlived its usefulness. The *ist-D will continue to produce images of like quality for as long as it continues to function. Better built cameras take more abuse and continue to function longer. Simple, really. Quoting J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Since all DSLRs so far have had a short shelf life due to technical innovations, could someone please explain to me why build quality is important? JCO - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
RE: Used DSLR prices
Hi Boris, All of what you say is true, but the fact remains that the original poster was talking about a given model of DSLR being rendered *obsolete*, not merely somewhat less attractive, by new models. His point was that DSLRs are essentially throwaway cameras because of the rapid march of technology, and hence the purchaser shouldn't worry about build quality. -Original Message- From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13-Jan-04 23:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Used DSLR prices [some stuff snipped] Now, notice, I haven't been talking of anything that belongs to digital only. All of the above is valid for film cameras... And unfortunately, it *is* software. Hence it requires more memory, faster processors, better programmers *duh!*, and so on... Naturally, none of these will change the scene you're shooting or your potential ability to click the shutter at the right time with the right speed at the right aperture for the right film/sensor.
Re: Used DSLR prices
All of these fall in the new toy category. If you are the kind of person that is happy with a 20 yr old film camera, then you can hang on to a DSLR for a while. The real difference here (and this is why the camera companies are so excited about this) is that DSLR's have something to improve. The film cameras have long since maxed out on features and the only real improvements were AF speed. Now the camera makers have a hook (resolution) to tempt folks who can spend $1000-2000/yr on equipment. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/14/04 02:28AM Hi, Bucky! Software has gotten more complex and bloated. The images I will want to record with my camera will not (except that my friends seem to swell as they age). The analogy between cameras and personal computers is fundamentally inappropriate. I am afraid I have to disagree. Apart from swelling of your friends g, but really. Consider this - speed of auto focus, complexity of flash operation, suitability of matrix metering in wider set of cases - all this is basically pure software with very little addition of hardware. Let's say, in AF the stronger motor would be good, but decision as to where to turn it and when to stop is purely software. Now, notice, I haven't been talking of anything that belongs to digital only. All of the above is valid for film cameras... And unfortunately, it *is* software. Hence it requires more memory, faster processors, better programmers *duh!*, and so on... Naturally, none of these will change the scene you're shooting or your potential ability to click the shutter at the right time with the right speed at the right aperture for the right film/sensor. Cheers! Boris
Re: Confused in Israel: digi backup to digi?!
- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman Subject: Confused in Israel: digi backup to digi?! Hi! I've just been reading this long thread about DSLRs and old Pentiums and it struck me like lightning. Why on Earth one would want to take a 6MP DSLR to be a backup of yet another 6MP DSLR?! Why would anyone want any kind of back up equipment? If I am shooting a wedding, I have two or three camera bodies with me, all loaded with exactly the same film. William Robb
Re: Used DSLR prices
You are aware that you are talking to a guy whose favorite picture taker is a 50+ year old Pacemaker Crown Graphic, right? OTOH you are right, the problem with using the old laptop is it won't run newer software. But that is analogic to using an old film camera for which film is no longer available such as a 116 Kodak folder. So they do compare. Digital cameras are electronic devices. Electronic devices have historically gotten better and better, and cheaper and cheaper. The laws of physics say that can not go on forever. But it is going to be awhile until we reach that point. Basically, a DSLR only has a usable lifetime until it is no longer supported with parts, service, and software upgrades. That is also analogic to computers. They will probably be viable until they are about 5 generations old, but will be crippled compared to new ones from about 3 generations (meaning the model after next). Compare that to the Canon D30 v. D60 v. 10D. Next gen. the D30 will be so obsolete that only diehards won't want replace it. Yes a 3mp image will still be usable, but there are a lot of things besides resolution involved here. Such things as repairs, speed, noise, newer storage devices, etc. will become problems. -- Bucky wrote: Software has gotten more complex and bloated. The images I will want to record with my camera will not (except that my friends seem to swell as they age). The analogy between cameras and personal computers is fundamentally inappropriate. -Original Message- From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13-Jan-04 20:16 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Used DSLR prices Hey, I have a 486/33 IBM Thinkpad. The build quality is supurb, but it is pretty much useless in todays world. Unless of course all you need it for is word processing. -- J. C. O'Connell wrote: Old Pentium (I) PCs may still work too, but that doesnt mean I would still want to use them. JCO -- -- J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com -- -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 2:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Used DSLR prices Why should build quality *not* be important? The shelf life, as you call it, by which I presume you mean useful life, is as long as the build quality allows it to be. Simply because there's something out there that is considered more modern technology doesn't mean that an existing camera has outlived its usefulness. The *ist-D will continue to produce images of like quality for as long as it continues to function. Better built cameras take more abuse and continue to function longer. Simple, really. Quoting J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Since all DSLRs so far have had a short shelf life due to technical innovations, could someone please explain to me why build quality is important? JCO - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
Re: DSLR future wish-list
Interesting, Bluetooth (infrared wireless) never took off in the US. Oh the consumer devices are there, my cel-phone has it, but the devices it connects to have never been installed in most areas. It is now pretty much considered obsoleted by WiFi. -- Nick Clark wrote: Bluetooth is not what I'd call rare. I'm on my third BT phone and have most high end PDAs have it included. Millions of BT phones were sold in the UK last year. It's not made it to many cameras, but once it does I guess it would be possible to send a picture to an email account (need to be a small copy), to a printer, even to a photofinishe . Whether there'd be any advantage to just passing the CF over is another matter! I can see your control option being useful though. Nick. -Original Message- From: Boris Liberman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13/01/04 19:17:13 To: John Francis[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DSLR future wish-list Hi! I think it is a matter of year or two when wireless tech (Blue Tooth, WiFi, etc) would become standard feature of even relatively cheap PDAs. Then it would be probably incorporated into most DSLRs thereby giving you what you want. The tech is there. It is a little expensive and just a little rare these days. But, very soon, it'd stop being this way... Boris -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
Re: DSLR future wish-list
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, graywolf wrote: Interesting, Bluetooth (infrared wireless) never took off in the US. Oh the consumer devices are there, my cel-phone has it, but the devices it connects to have never been installed in most areas. It is now pretty much considered obsoleted by WiFi. Hmmm... it sounds to me like you're mixing things up here. Bluetooth is not infrared. It is a replacement for infrared; connecting your own different devices faster then IR and without the line-of-sight limitation of IR. You don't need any installation in the area, like cell phone service and WiFi. Bluetooth connects *your* PDA with *your* cell phone with *your* wireless headset. Bluetooth does not connect your devices to any outside network. So if all the consumer devices have it, it's only to start using it. anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/ nu med dagens bild
Re: Confused in Israel: digi backup to digi?!
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, Boris Liberman wrote: Why on Earth one would want to take a 6MP DSLR to be a backup of yet another 6MP DSLR?! Bringing many batteries or memory cards or even lenses wink makes sense. But why would one want to bring another body?! I am discounting things such as splash of wine one the wedding or clumsy assistant or even clumsy photog himself (me e.g.), but seriously?! Body failure is a very valid reason. A friend who was travelling in France last year had to drop back to a PS digital camera when the mirror assembly on his Canon D30 failed. I can't use my *ist D right now because it is off at Pentax getting a new CF door, but that doesn't mean that I don't have anything that I want to shoot. I wouldn't mind having another body for the occasional events where I need to shoot often and quickly. I don't shoot weddings but could see loading one up with a moderate wide angle lens (28mm or so) for group shots and keeping another with a moderate telephoto lens (75mm) for portraits and head shots. Sure, a zoom can handle both of these ranges, but primes are generally sharper, have better bokeh, and are faster. Film can work in these cases, but honestly I don't really want to shoot film these days. alex
OT: Bluetooth (was Re: DSLR future wish-list)
Doug Franklin wrote: What I want from Bluetooth is to get rid of that rats nest of wiring in my stereo system. Leave the speaker wires, but get rid of all of the line level interconnects. Bluetooth won't help you there - it doesn't have enough bandwidth for uncompressed audio. S
OT: Bluetooth (was Re: DSLR future wish-list)
Anders Hultman wrote: You don't need any installation in the area, like cell phone service and WiFi. Bluetooth connects *your* PDA with *your* cell phone with *your* wireless headset. Bluetooth does not connect your devices to any outside network. So if all the consumer devices have it, it's only to start using it. You can connect WiFi devices together without any installation either: ad-hoc connections are part of the standard. S
Re: Used DSLR prices
Hi! Bucky, I am afraid I either misread his post or language barrier played yet another joke on me. All of what you say is true, but the fact remains that the original poster was talking about a given model of DSLR being rendered *obsolete*, not merely somewhat less attractive, by new models. His point was that DSLRs are essentially throwaway cameras because of the rapid march of technology, and hence the purchaser shouldn't worry about build quality. It is highly illogical (or should I say, silly g) to render a technology throw-away no matter how aged it is. E.g. I use Visor Platinum (circa 2000) which is very old, probably even ancient in modern PDA world. But it does *all* I want it to do at the moment. When it would be something that it cannot do that I must have, I will replace it. Or of course it could totally break before that. Then I will be forced to replace it. My ME Super is not obsolete. It is very old and very unattractive for some people. But it is my main camera while ZX-L being a backup or a body which I take if I have to have AF. Anyway, back to the chase g... DSLRs are not throwaway cameras unless it would be discovered that for some technical reason their sensor or shutter cannot work more than given amout of time, say 3 years. Then of course, it would be plain stupid to buy DSLR if it is known that it was used for 3 years. This by they way was my concern some messages ago. It is unclear to me what does it mean excellent condition DSLR. State of used sensor is something that would seem to be difficult to judge. Nevertheless, I do think that people would change their DSLRs more often just because fancier ones and cheaper ones would hit the market. Perhaps it will not happen with Pentax but for different reasons wink... Ultimately, I think we reached the point that you and I agree on our opinions. It is time to move on to next discussion BigFriendlyGrin. Boris
Re: Used DSLR prices
Hi! Now the camera makers have a hook (resolution) to tempt folks who can spend $1000-2000/yr on equipment. Steve, you're so absolutely right. And what if prices go below $1000/yr on equipment level?! It is even hard to imagine g. Boris
Re: Chromes,was: Hi there
Are there any scanners that work well with Kodachrome? I posed this question to Kodak and they sent me this lame list of old Kodak scanners that are no longer made. rg Alan Chan wrote: My Minolta Scan Elite F-2900 does a terrible job on scanning Kodachrome, and it uses cold-cathode fluorescent tube . :-( Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan some scanners, particularly the ones that use LEDs for their illumination, do a terrible job of scanning Kodachrome. _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/featurespgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Using screw mount lenses on K-mount body
What do I need to know about using a screw mount lens on a k-mount body (MX)? I know you need an adaptor and there's some difference in metering. Stop down metering which I don't quite understand. In general does this work out pretty well or is it a pain in the a** and I should just look for K-mount equivalents of the lenses? Some of the ones I want seem to be much more abundant (and inexpensive) on e-Bay in their screw mount forms. Thanks, Rob
*ist D Ebay deals...
Some really good deals going on Ebay at the moment guys and gals, check out the Buy It Now prices on these!! http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2979292414category=30020 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2979317359category=30020 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2979671377category=30020 Enablement anyone?!? tan.
Re: Used DSLR prices
Tom, I agree with you in certain respects. In particular, I agree that DSLRs will not last forever, and will probably not have the lifespan of, say, an MX or your Crown Graphic. My point (and the one that Mr. Desjardins is also making, I think) is that if you look at the sole tangible product of a camera - a picture - there is a certain level of quality, a combination of objective and subjective factors, that, once reached, will not go away until the camera fails utterly. This is the issue which JCO raised and with which I quarrel - takes the position that build quality is irrelevant for a digital camera because they have the approximate lifespan of a nematode, something I simply reject. I expect my *istD to last me for many years, first as a primary body, perhaps later as a back-up. As someone else pointed out, new technology is nice to use, which is why I kept Z1ps as well as LXs on the go at the same time. If Pentax brings out a new DSLR with substantially improved image quality (nothing else would be enough to coax me), I'll probably buy it. begin really OT editorial part--- I'm still a little miffed at Pentax for being so slow - I bought a PS because I got tired of waiting for Pentax to get their shit together and give me a digital product that I could use my lenses with. The PS produces amazing pictures, no doubt about it, but the motor skills involved in getting the most out of it are entirely different and I found that I had to alter my shooting habits substantially to get good results. Also, I can't seem to think photographically without me eye to a proper eyecup - looking at a screen doesn't seem to work well for me. Add to that the fact that you're stuck with a narrow range of focal lengths, and it just doesn't tally to a good tool for my needs. It's not that I didn't like film, but that I simply have not got the time anymore to shoot, process, scan, catalogue and photoshop slides, with the result that my shooting trailed off to a trickle in the several months leading up to the *ist-D's release. Digital fits my needs and my time constraints so much better that I am willing to out up with the difficulties - for me, they are far outweighed by the benefits. If Pentax had waited much longer, you'd have seen a whack of Pentax FA* glass for sale on eBay and I'd be gone to Canon. Quoting graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You are aware that you are talking to a guy whose favorite picture taker is a 50+ year old Pacemaker Crown Graphic, right? OTOH you are right, the problem with using the old laptop is it won't run newer software. But that is analogic to using an old film camera for which film is no longer available such as a 116 Kodak folder. So they do compare. - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Shelf Life (was: Re: Used DSLR prices)
This seems reasonable. BTW, does anyone have any idea or know of any reference as to how the sensor will age? Hi Steven, this would interest me as well! It would be interesting to know somebody with an early kodak DSLR! I will try to ask at local agencies how their first Nikon D1 were doing now. I think there are few things to look out in aging: 1) colour dyes. Change over time AND change with exposure to light. I really don't know what the mosaic colour filters are made of, although Kodak might have revealed it in one of their technical PDFs. 2) the transistors themselves in the CCD/CMOS. In analogy to computers, whose CPUs can develop something like hotspots over time (especially if overclocked or ran at higher voltages). These hotspots are areas of worse conductivity? I am not an expert, and it's been a while since I read that article. So the imaging chip itself could age as well, with hard usage. 3) the chips responsible for the image processing and other computer tasks - well, the first computerised cameras (AE1?,T90, F4, even LX has some little chips inside, no?) are still working, so this shouldn't be much of a problem if they are designed properly. 4) the other things are just the same as in film cameras - shutter, AF, ... If somebody with more technical expertise knows about the first two points, tell us please! When things get more comlex, just more bad can happen... I want a Luddite digital!!! :) Frantisek
Re: Used DSLR prices
The PS produces amazing pictures, no doubt about it, but the motor skills involved in getting the most out of it are entirely different and I found that I had to alter my shooting habits substantially to get good results. Also, I can't seem to think photographically without me eye to a proper eyecup - looking at a screen doesn't seem to work well for me. Add to that the fact that you're stuck with a narrow range of focal lengths, and it just doesn't tally to a good tool for my needs. While not disagreeing with your overall conclusion, there are times when I miss the LCD viewfinder of my PowerShot G1 - trying to take low-eyepoint shots with the *ist-D means I have to lie flat on the ground. Sometimes this is merely inconvenient; other time's it's effectively impossible. A tilt-and-swivel LCD makes things a lot easier. It also works well when I want to put the camera somewhere where there isn't room for me to stand behind it, or for over-the-head shots, etc., etc.
Re: Using screw mount lenses on K-mount body
The adapter is meant to be installed on the body and the lenses just screwed on or off as needed. The adapter isn't really designed to be permanently attached to a lens. I know of two people (me being one) that have attached it to a lens permanently, but it is not the norm As others have mentioned: Make sure you get a PENTAX branded adapter Christian - Original Message - From: Pentax [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 1:36 PM Subject: Re: Using screw mount lenses on K-mount body Thanks for the info. Do people usually get one adaptor per lens and leave the adaptor on the lens or just buy a single adaptor for all the lenses they plan on using and swap it out? Rob
Re: Used DSLR prices
John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep. I'm using a 1GHz machine now. I don't fell the need for any more speed, really. Even for working on 90 megabyte images in Photoshop. -- Mark Roberts Most of the time Photoshop is not cpu limited. The most important factors are: o Memory size. 3x - 5x overall image size is a good yardstick. A 256Mb machine would be marginal for working with 90Mb files. o Disk speed. You need to read and save those images, and that is critically dependent on how fast the disk transfers data. Waiting for image I/O is non-productive time, too, so it has a significant psychological impact. o Memory speed. Your image data won't fit in the data cache, so memory bandwidth becomes extremely important. Once you've got all those taken care of is time to start thinking of cpu speed. You'll notice this most when running complex filters (although you will see some difference even on simple filters such as smoothing, sharpening or resizing). For some of the most cpu- intensive tasks Photoshop is supposedly able to make use of more than one CPU in a multi-cpu configuration, although I haven't tried that myself. I'm using 512 meg of RAM and just upgraded to a faster #2 hard disk (my #1 hard disk has only the operating system - Win2k - on it; hard disk #1 has all my applications and data files). I noticed a big speed improvement with Photoshop after the upgrade. I'm going to upgrade the other hard disk soon. Interestingly, my motherboard only supports ATA 66 and my hard disks are ATA 100 and ATA 133. I may do the motherboard upgrade next. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: OT - PDA photography content request
No reason why you couldn't create a custom AvantGo channel from this URL. It's worth a go anyway. Nick -Original Message- From: Frantisek Vlcek[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14/01/04 18:46:59 To: PDML[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT - PDA photography content request Herb, I had a look around the DPReview site but couldn't find any mention of this - have you a reference please? There is www.dpreview.com/mobile but I don't know how you can read it offline in AvantGo style. Basically it's just the site articles without any graphics and advertisement - so I read the mobile dpreview even at my unportable computer at home :) fra
Re: OT: Kodak APS cameras
Interestingly, Creative Memories tech people have determined that APS negs will last longer than 35mm negs. And it's not because of the can, either. Apparently there is a real difference in the film material itself.
Re: Using screw mount lenses on K-mount body
Works well either way ... Christian wrote: The adapter is meant to be installed on the body and the lenses just screwed on or off as needed. The adapter isn't really designed to be permanently attached to a lens. I know of two people (me being one) that have attached it to a lens permanently, but it is not the norm
Re: Confused in Israel: digi backup to digi?!
Hi, BTW, even with zooms, two identical bodies are pretty useful - one with 70-200, the other with 17-35 2.8 zooms (or similar) - bread and butter PJ combination. zooms are a good way to back up prime lenses too. When I go on a trip I usually take 3 identical bodies, and normally shoot with either 2 or 3 according to circumstances. Each body has the same film stock in - I never mix films - but of course a different lens, and as far as possible I don't change lenses while I'm shooting. Normally I like to shoot with primes for various reasons, but on a trip I always take a wide zoom and a long zoom - 28-80 and 80-200 - so everything is covered. If a body fails I have 2 more I can use; if a lens fails I have the focal length covered with another one. -- Cheers, Bob
Re: Used DSLR prices
If you have to swap to disk, then putting the Photoshop scratch space on a different physical drive takes some of the pain away. But it's far better to have enough memory in the first place, and never going to disk at all. Even the fastest disk transfer speed is still much slower than main memory speeds. Try to get more memory first; a second drive is a palliative, not a solution. A very important consideration for running PS is that of using two hard drives. PS uses a scratch disk when memory allocation is at the limit. It's highly recommended to use a second disk for this. John Francis wrote: o Memory size. 3x - 5x overall image size is a good yardstick. A 256Mb machine would be marginal for working with 90Mb files. o Disk speed. You need to read and save those images, and that is critically dependent on how fast the disk transfers data. Waiting for image I/O is non-productive time, too, so it has a significant psychological impact. o Memory speed. Your image data won't fit in the data cache, so memory bandwidth becomes extremely important.
Re: Used DSLR prices
Quoting John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: While not disagreeing with your overall conclusion, there are times when I miss the LCD viewfinder of my PowerShot G1 - trying to take low-eyepoint shots with the *ist-D means I have to lie flat on the ground. Sometimes this is merely inconvenient; other time's it's effectively impossible. A tilt-and-swivel LCD makes things a lot easier. It also works well when I want to put the camera somewhere where there isn't room for me to stand behind it, or for over-the-head shots, etc., etc. True enough - swiveling screens are a big plus in certain situations. My friend has a G2, and he can even shoot behind him for candids that catch strangers unawares and often give quite beautiful results. - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Re: Chromes,was: Hi there
Robert Gonzalez asked: I've heard that because of the type of light source this uses that Kodachromes don't scan well. Do you do anything special to get them to come out right? I don't have a film scanner but I think the major issue is that digital ice (or other similar dust spec software) doesn't work with Kodachrome. Tom Reese
Re: Used DSLR prices
Agreed, but not everyone can get more memory into older machines. I can only get 768mb into my P3 (have 512 at present), and now that I'm starting to work with larger files, the extra scratch space is very welcome. I'll probably add a little more memory when I can get around to it. John Francis wrote: If you have to swap to disk, then putting the Photoshop scratch space on a different physical drive takes some of the pain away. But it's far better to have enough memory in the first place, and never going to disk at all. Even the fastest disk transfer speed is still much slower than main memory speeds. Try to get more memory first; a second drive is a palliative, not a solution.
SOT: Any leica users among us
A 43/1.9 L for sale here:
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?s=c0323a3f5334a140ffbae7cd7020c4bbthreadid=186
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Re: DSLR/PC plateau?
Quoting Chaso DeChaso [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think the above analysis is overly reliant on the idea of the job as equivalency to 35mm (or Med Format) traditional film photography - equivalency in a variety of ways including not only resolution and such things. [predictions snipped] You may be right, but these innovations will render obsolete ALL earlier cameras to the same degree - so-called conventional digital cameras would be no more or less obsolete than film bodies in the circumstances you describe. - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
KEH does it again
Alright, Just received a box from KEH, and boy, am I happy! Three items were in the box, all in condition that I consider absolutely wonderful. First off, I got a case for my 500/4.5. This was said to be in Ugly condition. The cap on my last one had come off, and I couldn't see transporting the lens safely inside of the case because of that. The new case looks great, and looks like it will take a 15 min latch fix to make it useable. Second, a BGN AF500FTZ flash. The only thing BGN about this is some tape residue where someone must have attached a bounce to it. So for close to half the price of a new flash, I get a slightly used one that works and looks great (after I clean the residue with some alcohol). Finally, my first Auto Focus lens. I went cheap, and was looking for something under $50, just to test out the AF on my *ist D (my other lenses and cameras are manual only). Recieved the FA 35-70/3.5-4.5 in supposed BGN condition. As far as I can tell this means that it comes without caps. Zoom, aperture look great, AF works fine, and the glass looks like it's never been touched. Another satisfied customer! IL Bill
Re: DSLR/PC plateau?
Interesting question: My DSLR becomes obsolete. Therefore it's not worth much. Do I bother to sell it or not? Will there be any market for these obsolete DSLR's? Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/14/04 02:57PM Quoting Chaso DeChaso [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think the above analysis is overly reliant on the idea of the job as equivalency to 35mm (or Med Format) traditional film photography - equivalency in a variety of ways including not only resolution and such things. [predictions snipped] You may be right, but these innovations will render obsolete ALL earlier cameras to the same degree - so-called conventional digital cameras would be no more or less obsolete than film bodies in the circumstances you describe. - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
RE: KEH does it again
All the KEH bargains I've purchased have been bargains indeed, with one exception. I sent back a 35mm Summicron because it had chewed up screw heads (had to look at it under a stereo microscope to see the damage; a Leica microscope, strangely enough), which I thought did not bode well for any future CLAs. Back on topic, though... The SMC-F 35-70 I purchased for my wife for use on her ZX-7 has a few barrel blemishes, but is optically and mechanically top notch. It replaces a Tamron paperweight I am embarrased to have purchased with the camera as a birthday gift to her. (Not saying all Tamrons are bad, mind you, but this one much have an element made of molded hot glue!) Never had a problem with KEH. Aric -Original Message- From: Mr. William M Kane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: KEH does it again Finally, my first Auto Focus lens. I went cheap, and was looking for something under $50, just to test out the AF on my *ist D (my other lenses and cameras are manual only). Recieved the FA 35-70/3.5-4.5 in supposed BGN condition. As far as I can tell this means that it comes without caps. Zoom, aperture look great, AF works fine, and the glass looks like it's never been touched. Another satisfied customer! IL Bill
OT: A bizarre ebay experience.
I'm very POed at ebay. Among other items, I listed a Spotmatic Motor Drive camera and 50mm lens on ebay the other night. I set a first bid of $375 and did not specifiy a buy it now price or a reserve. Last night I received a notice that the camera had been purchased on a buy it now bid by someone in Japan. I have tried replying to the ebay message to indicate that there is some kind of mistake. I've filed a report with their mediation service, and I've written the purported buyer. All to no avail. I've heard from no one, and my auction has been down for almost 20 hours. What's more, a list member had hoped to purchase the camera and had planned to bid on the last day. I don't know how to resolve this.
Re: KEH does it again
Bill,
Instead of using alcohol to clean off the glue residue, try Goo Gone.
And, like ArmorAll, it leaves the plastic looking very nice.
Comes in liquid (in hardware stores) and gell (in automotive shops),
both in convenient bottles.
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Sensor types longevity
What is the test data on sensor durability?
How susceptible are they to bright light damage?
Is degradation, if any, slow through the life of the unit
or quick at the end?
Do colors change/shift, does sensitivity change, or both?
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RE: A bizarre ebay experience.
If you get no satisfaction, would you share the eBay ID of the seller? It's good to know from who to say away. There is a serious flaw in the feedback system at eBay. Unscrupulous sellers can hold you as a feedback hostage. That is to say, they will not supply feedback to a completed transaction until you do. That way, they can retaliate with negative feedback if they swindle you and you leave negative feedback for them. One eBay seller (and sizeable brick and mortar dealer) is Zeff Photo. Last time I checked, they have 100% positive feedback. They shouldn't. I purchased a Bronica EC with lens from them, and paid immediately using a method they would accept. That should equate to immediate positive feedback for me. I held up my end of the transaction. The camera and lens has several immediately obvious defects not disclosed, and it locked up after a few shutter triggers. I obtained return authorization and had it shipped back via FedEx. I was contacted a few days later and was informed the damage was due to RETURN trip to Zeff, and I would have to make a claim. Since I am not aware of any temporal anomalies in the vicinity which would cause damage manifest a few days earlier to have a cause several days later, I was skeptical, to say the least. Long story short, I got a refund, but not for the significant shipping charges accumulated during the whole ordeal. Their eBay guy told me I was lucky and he was doing me a favor. Some favor, to the tune of $45 lost to unnecessary shipping expense Zeff Photo has a good reputation, but the guy who managed the eBay department did not give me a square deal, and he engages in this feedback withholding strategy I describe. I am in feedback limbo with them. Aric -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:45 PM To: pentax discuss Subject: OT: A bizarre ebay experience. I'm very POed at ebay. Among other items, I listed a Spotmatic Motor Drive camera and 50mm lens on ebay the other night. I set a first bid of $375 and did not specifiy a buy it now price or a reserve. Last night I received a notice that the camera had been purchased on a buy it now bid by someone in Japan. I have tried replying to the ebay message to indicate that there is some kind of mistake. I've filed a report with their mediation service, and I've written the purported buyer. All to no avail. I've heard from no one, and my auction has been down for almost 20 hours. What's more, a list member had hoped to purchase the camera and had planned to bid on the last day. I don't know how to resolve this.
SV: A bizarre ebay experience.
Hi Paul Well ther must have been a buy it button - omne you didn,t put there? You could do nothing, except explain to the winning bidder and then relist it! JEns -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 14. januar 2004 21:45 Til: pentax discuss Emne: OT: A bizarre ebay experience. I'm very POed at ebay. Among other items, I listed a Spotmatic Motor Drive camera and 50mm lens on ebay the other night. I set a first bid of $375 and did not specifiy a buy it now price or a reserve. Last night I received a notice that the camera had been purchased on a buy it now bid by someone in Japan. I have tried replying to the ebay message to indicate that there is some kind of mistake. I've filed a report with their mediation service, and I've written the purported buyer. All to no avail. I've heard from no one, and my auction has been down for almost 20 hours. What's more, a list member had hoped to purchase the camera and had planned to bid on the last day. I don't know how to resolve this.
SV: A bizarre ebay experience.
Hi I just checked - no sign saying Buy it now Price. So surely this must be a server error! Not your responsibility. The buyer as well as you are disapointed. Ebay shold give yo an apologi an reslsit the item for free! All the best Jens -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 14. januar 2004 21:45 Til: pentax discuss Emne: OT: A bizarre ebay experience. I'm very POed at ebay. Among other items, I listed a Spotmatic Motor Drive camera and 50mm lens on ebay the other night. I set a first bid of $375 and did not specifiy a buy it now price or a reserve. Last night I received a notice that the camera had been purchased on a buy it now bid by someone in Japan. I have tried replying to the ebay message to indicate that there is some kind of mistake. I've filed a report with their mediation service, and I've written the purported buyer. All to no avail. I've heard from no one, and my auction has been down for almost 20 hours. What's more, a list member had hoped to purchase the camera and had planned to bid on the last day. I don't know how to resolve this.
RE: KEH does it again
Some products (like Armor All and DEET) are or contain chemicals
that will cause polycarbonate (the plastic usually used for photo gear)
to crack. They are called stress cracking agents. Sometimes the effects
are slight and take a long time to manifest, as with Armor All, or fast
and dramatic, as with DEET (bug repellant).
I don't know what's in Goo Gone.
Aric
-Original Message-
From: Collin Brendemuehl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: KEH does it again
Bill,
Instead of using alcohol to clean off the glue residue, try Goo Gone.
And, like ArmorAll, it leaves the plastic looking very nice.
Comes in liquid (in hardware stores) and gell (in automotive shops),
both in convenient bottles.
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RE: A bizarre ebay experience.
OOPS! Sorry, didn't read your posting very well the first time! YOU were the seller...well, it still felt good to vent about Zeff. Guess it's good to remember that sellers can also make good faith mistakes. Aric -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:45 PM To: pentax discuss Subject: OT: A bizarre ebay experience. I'm very POed at ebay. Among other items, I listed a Spotmatic Motor Drive camera and 50mm lens on ebay the other night. I set a first bid of $375 and did not specifiy a buy it now price or a reserve. Last night I received a notice that the camera had been purchased on a buy it now bid by someone in Japan. I have tried replying to the ebay message to indicate that there is some kind of mistake. I've filed a report with their mediation service, and I've written the purported buyer. All to no avail. I've heard from no one, and my auction has been down for almost 20 hours. What's more, a list member had hoped to purchase the camera and had planned to bid on the last day. I don't know how to resolve this.
Re: Used DSLR prices
I'm using 512 meg of RAM and just upgraded to a faster #2 hard disk (my #1 hard disk has only the operating system - Win2k - on it; hard disk #1 has all my applications and data files). I noticed a big speed improvement with Photoshop after the upgrade. I'm going to upgrade the other hard disk soon. Interestingly, my motherboard only supports ATA 66 and my hard disks are ATA 100 and ATA 133. I may do the motherboard upgrade next. I'd guess that your new hard disk has a faster sustained throughput rate; either a faster rotational speed, or higher capacity per cylinder, than your original disk. Although an ATA 133 disk can transfer burst data faster than an ATA 100 disk, that only works while the disk cache is providing the data. Image files are far too large for that, so transfer at the throughput rate of the actual disk hardware, which is directly proportional to rotational speed. I'd suggest you do the calculations for your hardware before you consider updating the motherboard - you may find that even ATA 66 is fast enough to keep up with your disks.
Re: A bizarre ebay experience.
I'm the seller. And I'm scrupulous :-). My complaint is that ebay accepted a buy it now bid, and this was not a buy it now auction. Rothman, Aric wrote: If you get no satisfaction, would you share the eBay ID of the seller? It's good to know from who to say away. There is a serious flaw in the feedback system at eBay. Unscrupulous sellers can hold you as a feedback hostage. That is to say, they will not supply feedback to a completed transaction until you do. That way, they can retaliate with negative feedback if they swindle you and you leave negative feedback for them. One eBay seller (and sizeable brick and mortar dealer) is Zeff Photo. Last time I checked, they have 100% positive feedback. They shouldn't. I purchased a Bronica EC with lens from them, and paid immediately using a method they would accept. That should equate to immediate positive feedback for me. I held up my end of the transaction. The camera and lens has several immediately obvious defects not disclosed, and it locked up after a few shutter triggers. I obtained return authorization and had it shipped back via FedEx. I was contacted a few days later and was informed the damage was due to RETURN trip to Zeff, and I would have to make a claim. Since I am not aware of any temporal anomalies in the vicinity which would cause damage manifest a few days earlier to have a cause several days later, I was skeptical, to say the least. Long story short, I got a refund, but not for the significant shipping charges accumulated during the whole ordeal. Their eBay guy told me I was lucky and he was doing me a favor. Some favor, to the tune of $45 lost to unnecessary shipping expense Zeff Photo has a good reputation, but the guy who managed the eBay department did not give me a square deal, and he engages in this feedback withholding strategy I describe. I am in feedback limbo with them. Aric -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:45 PM To: pentax discuss Subject: OT: A bizarre ebay experience. I'm very POed at ebay. Among other items, I listed a Spotmatic Motor Drive camera and 50mm lens on ebay the other night. I set a first bid of $375 and did not specifiy a buy it now price or a reserve. Last night I received a notice that the camera had been purchased on a buy it now bid by someone in Japan. I have tried replying to the ebay message to indicate that there is some kind of mistake. I've filed a report with their mediation service, and I've written the purported buyer. All to no avail. I've heard from no one, and my auction has been down for almost 20 hours. What's more, a list member had hoped to purchase the camera and had planned to bid on the last day. I don't know how to resolve this.
Re: Using screw mount lenses on K-mount body
On 14/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: The adapter is meant to be installed on the body and the lenses just screwed on or off as needed. The adapter isn't really designed to be permanently attached to a lens. I know of two people (me being one) that have attached it to a lens permanently, but it is not the norm hey, I resemble that remark! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/mods/eoskmount.html Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Using screw mount lenses on K-mount body
Funny, I forgot all about you! I was thinking of Bill Robb. Christian - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 14/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: The adapter is meant to be installed on the body and the lenses just screwed on or off as needed. The adapter isn't really designed to be permanently attached to a lens. I know of two people (me being one) that have attached it to a lens permanently, but it is not the norm hey, I resemble that remark! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/mods/eoskmount.html Cheers, Cotty
Re: Vivitar Lens
Fred, Thanks for your help. Thanks to the pictures and instructions, I have just ground off the necessary bits of extra flange using a dremmel, and have maintained the condition of my lens. I guess this mod means it's no longer Like New, but fits great on the *ist D now. IL Bill On Saturday, January 10, 2004, at 03:15 PM, Fred wrote: Putting together a bag for my ist D (this may be interesting to those with film vivitar lenses), and was trying out various lenses. Trying to put on my Vivitar Series 1 90-180mm Flat Field, I found the flange at the back of the lens to be too long. I know someone had cut this flange down, but don't remember who, and don't remember their description/web page on doing it. Can anyone give me a hand here? I love the ol' VS1 lenses. (And, now with V.1.1 of the *ist-D's firmware out there, they're gonna be used a lot digitally, too.) Here's from a previous post: A PDMLer wishes to buy my Vivitar 90-180/4.5 Macro Zoom. He wishes to know: Can the 90-180/4.5 be used safely on an MZ-S without filing down the lens's unusually long rear extension? My personal opinion is that the potential problem (of the excess baffle material on the original line of K-mount VS1 lenses) is not too difficult to fix (takes perhaps a half hour) and therefore should be considered to be a mandatory routine procedure before using any of these old gems on a newer body. I once had to have my Super Program's aperture mechanism repaired when the 90-180 got stuck on it. I may have inserted the lens carelessly, the same way I damaged my Rikenon 50/1.4P: by trying to wiggle it onto the body blind while the body was mounted on a tripod, too high for me to see the red alignment dot. I have used several of the first generation VS1 lenses (with their extra-generous baffle extension on the K-mount flange) on several different bodies (including a Super Program) without any trouble. The clearance when inserting one of these into an LX, however, is quite small, and I think that any of these lenses should be modified before using on an LX. As for the newer autofocus bodies, I think that it is simply not worth playing games here - the operation should be performed without even trying to judge how the lens and body will fit together. [from another thread] Here are some image links illustrating the removal of this flange: First, here are two VS1 35-85/2.8's, the left one of which shows the extra baffle, while the right one has been modified - http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/v358528/1ofeach.jpg . Lacking access to a bench grinder, I resort to simply cutting of the excess baffle material with a hacksaw (but leaving the protective hump near the coupling lever, as in jen-you-wine Pentax K-mounts). (Another PDML-er reported using a thin file for this procedure.) I don't try to remove the baffle entirely, but I leave about a mm or two of it still sticking out (since trying to remove all of it would tend to scar up the face of the K-mount flange, and removing it entirely is not really necessary, anyway). I then smooth off the remaining edge of the baffle with a fine-toothed file and finally I touch up the exposed (shiny) metal edge of the remaining baffle area with a black magic marker (for a little flare prevention). It is important, of course, to mask off completely the rest of the lens when the extra baffle is being removed from the lens (since you don't want any little aluminum filings adding to the lens' innards - g) - http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/v358528/lensmod.jpg . It is also possible to ~carefully~ remove the K-mount flange from the lens and then remove the extra baffle after masking off only the flange - http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/v358528/flangmod.jpg . Fred
Re: Confused in Israel: digi backup to digi?!
I've just been reading this long thread about DSLRs and old Pentiums and it struck me like lightning. Why on Earth one would want to take a 6MP DSLR to be a backup of yet another 6MP DSLR?! I think this has been covered pretty thoroughly - you really have to have a second body in case the first one fails. Aside from client obligations and lawsuits etc, if you just devote the time and effort to get to a good place at the right time you run the risk of loosing that investment in effort if you bring just one camera and it fails. Personally, I don't see a need for second DSLR as a backup, since I have not locked into digital output for any shooting. If my *ist-D breaks, I can always go back to shooting film. When I have a 64 megapixel 35 x 24 dslr I might dislike the loss in quality caused by going back to film - but heck, I got at least 4 or 5 years before I have to worry about that! - MCC - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI http://www.markcassino.com -
Re: A bizarre ebay experience.
My question may be: Is there a hack in the ebay system that allows buyers to trick ebay into thinking they won a BIN when it wasn't BIN? Second question: Did you examine the headers of the email to be sure they came from ebay? IL Bill On Wednesday, January 14, 2004, at 04:00 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I'm the seller. And I'm scrupulous :-). My complaint is that ebay accepted a buy it now bid, and this was not a buy it now auction. Rothman, Aric wrote: If you get no satisfaction, would you share the eBay ID of the seller? It's good to know from who to say away. There is a serious flaw in the feedback system at eBay. Unscrupulous sellers can hold you as a feedback hostage. That is to say, they will not supply feedback to a completed transaction until you do. That way, they can retaliate with negative feedback if they swindle you and you leave negative feedback for them. One eBay seller (and sizeable brick and mortar dealer) is Zeff Photo. Last time I checked, they have 100% positive feedback. They shouldn't. I purchased a Bronica EC with lens from them, and paid immediately using a method they would accept. That should equate to immediate positive feedback for me. I held up my end of the transaction. The camera and lens has several immediately obvious defects not disclosed, and it locked up after a few shutter triggers. I obtained return authorization and had it shipped back via FedEx. I was contacted a few days later and was informed the damage was due to RETURN trip to Zeff, and I would have to make a claim. Since I am not aware of any temporal anomalies in the vicinity which would cause damage manifest a few days earlier to have a cause several days later, I was skeptical, to say the least. Long story short, I got a refund, but not for the significant shipping charges accumulated during the whole ordeal. Their eBay guy told me I was lucky and he was doing me a favor. Some favor, to the tune of $45 lost to unnecessary shipping expense Zeff Photo has a good reputation, but the guy who managed the eBay department did not give me a square deal, and he engages in this feedback withholding strategy I describe. I am in feedback limbo with them. Aric -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:45 PM To: pentax discuss Subject: OT: A bizarre ebay experience. I'm very POed at ebay. Among other items, I listed a Spotmatic Motor Drive camera and 50mm lens on ebay the other night. I set a first bid of $375 and did not specifiy a buy it now price or a reserve. Last night I received a notice that the camera had been purchased on a buy it now bid by someone in Japan. I have tried replying to the ebay message to indicate that there is some kind of mistake. I've filed a report with their mediation service, and I've written the purported buyer. All to no avail. I've heard from no one, and my auction has been down for almost 20 hours. What's more, a list member had hoped to purchase the camera and had planned to bid on the last day. I don't know how to resolve this.
Re: *ist D Ebay deals...
The $1349 is the current BH Photo price. The kits are charging a lot for the accessories. Check out BH Photo http://bhphotovideo.com for prices before bidding on anything new of Ebay. And be sure to request the current price via e-mail because quite often they sell for less than they are allowed to advertise. -- Tanya Mayer Photography wrote: Some really good deals going on Ebay at the moment guys and gals, check out the Buy It Now prices on these!! http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2979292414category=30020 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2979317359category=30020 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2979671377category=30020 Enablement anyone?!? tan. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
Re: DSLR future wish-list
OK, so I am out of date here. When I first heard of bluetooth there were things like connection to the coke machine, atm, etc. Seems I like the first info was kind of exagerated as usual. I had not checked up on it since because I felt no need for it. So I guess I was wrong about just what it is. -- Anders Hultman wrote: On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, graywolf wrote: Interesting, Bluetooth (infrared wireless) never took off in the US. Oh the consumer devices are there, my cel-phone has it, but the devices it connects to have never been installed in most areas. It is now pretty much considered obsoleted by WiFi. Hmmm... it sounds to me like you're mixing things up here. Bluetooth is not infrared. It is a replacement for infrared; connecting your own different devices faster then IR and without the line-of-sight limitation of IR. You don't need any installation in the area, like cell phone service and WiFi. Bluetooth connects *your* PDA with *your* cell phone with *your* wireless headset. Bluetooth does not connect your devices to any outside network. So if all the consumer devices have it, it's only to start using it. anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/ nu med dagens bild -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
Re: Using screw mount lenses on K-mount body
The adapters I have go on the camera body as you describe, and a spanner tool is used to remove them. How do you remove the adapter and lens from the body as one unit?? Works well either way ... Christian wrote: The adapter is meant to be installed on the body and the lenses just screwed on or off as needed. The adapter isn't really designed to be permanently attached to a lens. I know of two people (me being one) that have attached it to a lens permanently, but it is not the norm
Re: DSLR/PC plateau?
On 14/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Interesting question: My DSLR becomes obsolete. Therefore it's not worth much. Do I bother to sell it or not? Will there be any market for these obsolete DSLR's? Please define obsolete, in this context. There will always be a market for used camera gear - we are testament to that! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Using screw mount lenses on K-mount body
When I decided to attach the adapter to a lens permanently, I removed the clip-thingy that holds the adapter to the body. Without it, the adapter will not stay on the body, so I drilled a notch in the lens at the correct point to where the lens release should be, so, in effect, it works like a regular k-mount lens. I used lock-tite on the adapter to keep it in place on the lens-mount threads. you are right though. If the adapter is not modified you have to unscrew the lens from the body and then remove the adapter. Christian - Original Message - From: Hal Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 5:19 PM Subject: Re: Using screw mount lenses on K-mount body The adapters I have go on the camera body as you describe, and a spanner tool is used to remove them. How do you remove the adapter and lens from the body as one unit?? Works well either way ... Christian wrote: The adapter is meant to be installed on the body and the lenses just screwed on or off as needed. The adapter isn't really designed to be permanently attached to a lens. I know of two people (me being one) that have attached it to a lens permanently, but it is not the norm
Re: KEH does it again
While we're talking about KEH, anyone have experience with their repair service? Good or bad? Thanks, William in Utah - Original Message - From: Mr. William M Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 1:15 PM Subject: KEH does it again Alright, Just received a box from KEH, and boy, am I happy! Three items were in the box, all in condition that I consider absolutely wonderful. First off, I got a case for my 500/4.5. This was said to be in Ugly condition. The cap on my last one had come off, and I couldn't see transporting the lens safely inside of the case because of that. The new case looks great, and looks like it will take a 15 min latch fix to make it useable. Second, a BGN AF500FTZ flash. The only thing BGN about this is some tape residue where someone must have attached a bounce to it. So for close to half the price of a new flash, I get a slightly used one that works and looks great (after I clean the residue with some alcohol). Finally, my first Auto Focus lens. I went cheap, and was looking for something under $50, just to test out the AF on my *ist D (my other lenses and cameras are manual only). Recieved the FA 35-70/3.5-4.5 in supposed BGN condition. As far as I can tell this means that it comes without caps. Zoom, aperture look great, AF works fine, and the glass looks like it's never been touched. Another satisfied customer! IL Bill
Re: DSLR/PC plateau?
On 14 Jan 2004 at 10:01, Chaso DeChaso wrote: Basically, whenever you think these technological changes are levelling off, usually you just aren't being creative or imaginative enough. However, most of the companies out there will take up the slack and do the creative thinking for you. That's progress! ROTFL, are you in PC marketing :-) I don't even need to make up reasons to spend my money. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: A*200/4 Macro manual?
On 13 Jan 2004 at 18:54, Mark Cassino wrote: Just dug into the box my A* 200 f4 macro came in and found a manual entitled Pentax 35mm Interchangeable Lenses. It is not specific to the 200 f4 - it covers all A and A* lenses, plus a few K lenses (like the 500 f4.5 and reflex zoom 400-600, etc). There are a couple of pages devoted to the 4 macro lenses covered - the A 50 f2.8, A 100 f2.8, A 100 f4, and A* 200 f4. Thanks Mark, I've actually got a copy of this manual, many thanks for the offer. I'm a little disappointed that the near superfluous housing for the RTF on the *ist D prevents the A*200/4 macro from rotating much past horizontal :-( Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: KEH does it again
You could always try salad oil. This works on some temp. adhesives and
is very safe (but high in calories).
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Bill,
Instead of using alcohol to clean off the glue residue, try Goo Gone.
And, like ArmorAll, it leaves the plastic looking very nice.
Comes in liquid (in hardware stores) and gell (in automotive shops),
both in convenient bottles.
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OT ideas
Certainly not the first person to think of this but why not a Compact Flash format gizmo that's not actually a drive but IS a wireless network transmitter? While that would be cool, how about a grip that transmits the data? That way you could have your data on the drive but also transmitted to your desktop. Just thinking about stuff and waiting for my dinner to arrive... Cory --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.560 / Virus Database: 352 - Release Date: 1/8/2004
OT: Graywolf, boy shutter repairman
Well, I did a CLA on my Graphex shutter for my Crown Graphic. Works fine now. Though the 1/400 speed is slow, and the 1/100 speed is fast. All the rest are within spec. Unfortunately the problem that was causing the shutter to jam was a mangled hair spring in the synchronizer mechanism. Also I broke one of the steel tape leads to he sync posts. A couple of the shutter leaves are slightly bent, but I put them back in so they would not interfere with the other leaves. So I need some impossible to find parts. Anyone got a junk shutter from a 135 Graftar or Raptar laying about? I would be interested in acquiring it. For those who have read that you can fix one of these shutters by socking it in lighter fluid. Run away from that advice. The only thing oiled in these is the pivots or the gear wheels, everything else is a sliding contact that requires grease which the soak removes. The Repair Manual is for a slightly different shutter (prob. changed the design over the years). I will be posting some more about this on my journal, and hope to put up something better than the factory instructions on my website within a week or so. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
Re[2]: Confused in Israel: digi backup to digi?!
For the time being, I got a film *ist as a backup. Didn't want to/couldn't afford another *istD. Not only that, seems that it might be wiser to wait on a second DSLR for a newer version or at least a later revision. For me the *ist film body represented the least expensive body that had the features I needed - specifically high speed flash synch along with a host of other things like metering modes, exposure modes, etc. It comes along just in case the *istD has a problem so that I can get the job done. If all goes well, it will rarely be used. If not, I am covered. A side benefit of the *ist is that, unlike an MZ-S, I don't feel bad about not using it. :) -- Best regards, Bruce Wednesday, January 14, 2004, 2:03:47 PM, you wrote: MC Personally, I don't see a need for second DSLR as a backup, since I have MC not locked into digital output for any shooting. If my *ist-D breaks, I MC can always go back to shooting film. When I have a 64 megapixel 35 x 24 MC dslr I might dislike the loss in quality caused by going back to film - but MC heck, I got at least 4 or 5 years before I have to worry about that! MC - MCC MC - MC Mark Cassino Photography MC Kalamazoo, MI MC http://www.markcassino.com MC -
Re[2]: A bizarre ebay experience.
Did anyone notice a recent change in the look of ebay - specifically on the feedback page. More usable and sortable for the feedback. I'm not quite sure when it went in to effect, but, changes like that could perhaps account for some odd problems elsewhere. Obviously, programming changes have occurred. Maybe Paul is a victim of Ebay bugs. Bruce Wednesday, January 14, 2004, 2:11:25 PM, you wrote: MWMK My question may be: Is there a hack in the ebay system that allows MWMK buyers to trick ebay into thinking they won a BIN when it wasn't BIN? MWMK Second question: Did you examine the headers of the email to be sure MWMK they came from ebay? MWMK IL Bill MWMK On Wednesday, January 14, 2004, at 04:00 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I'm the seller. And I'm scrupulous :-). My complaint is that ebay accepted a buy it now bid, and this was not a buy it now auction. Rothman, Aric wrote: If you get no satisfaction, would you share the eBay ID of the seller? It's good to know from who to say away. There is a serious flaw in the feedback system at eBay. Unscrupulous sellers can hold you as a feedback hostage. That is to say, they will not supply feedback to a completed transaction until you do. That way, they can retaliate with negative feedback if they swindle you and you leave negative feedback for them. One eBay seller (and sizeable brick and mortar dealer) is Zeff Photo. Last time I checked, they have 100% positive feedback. They shouldn't. I purchased a Bronica EC with lens from them, and paid immediately using a method they would accept. That should equate to immediate positive feedback for me. I held up my end of the transaction. The camera and lens has several immediately obvious defects not disclosed, and it locked up after a few shutter triggers. I obtained return authorization and had it shipped back via FedEx. I was contacted a few days later and was informed the damage was due to RETURN trip to Zeff, and I would have to make a claim. Since I am not aware of any temporal anomalies in the vicinity which would cause damage manifest a few days earlier to have a cause several days later, I was skeptical, to say the least. Long story short, I got a refund, but not for the significant shipping charges accumulated during the whole ordeal. Their eBay guy told me I was lucky and he was doing me a favor. Some favor, to the tune of $45 lost to unnecessary shipping expense Zeff Photo has a good reputation, but the guy who managed the eBay department did not give me a square deal, and he engages in this feedback withholding strategy I describe. I am in feedback limbo with them. Aric -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:45 PM To: pentax discuss Subject: OT: A bizarre ebay experience. I'm very POed at ebay. Among other items, I listed a Spotmatic Motor Drive camera and 50mm lens on ebay the other night. I set a first bid of $375 and did not specifiy a buy it now price or a reserve. Last night I received a notice that the camera had been purchased on a buy it now bid by someone in Japan. I have tried replying to the ebay message to indicate that there is some kind of mistake. I've filed a report with their mediation service, and I've written the purported buyer. All to no avail. I've heard from no one, and my auction has been down for almost 20 hours. What's more, a list member had hoped to purchase the camera and had planned to bid on the last day. I don't know how to resolve this.
AvantGo: Custom Channels
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Re: A bizarre ebay experience.
On Jan 14, 2004, at 5:11 PM, Mr. William M Kane wrote: My question may be: Is there a hack in the ebay system that allows buyers to trick ebay into thinking they won a BIN when it wasn't BIN? I've been wondering the same thing. Second question: Did you examine the headers of the email to be sure they came from ebay? Yes, it was the same end of auction letter I always get. And of course the auction post is marked as having ended. It's here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItemcategory=15240item=2979572698 IL Bill On Wednesday, January 14, 2004, at 04:00 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I'm the seller. And I'm scrupulous :-). My complaint is that ebay accepted a buy it now bid, and this was not a buy it now auction. Rothman, Aric wrote: If you get no satisfaction, would you share the eBay ID of the seller? It's good to know from who to say away. There is a serious flaw in the feedback system at eBay. Unscrupulous sellers can hold you as a feedback hostage. That is to say, they will not supply feedback to a completed transaction until you do. That way, they can retaliate with negative feedback if they swindle you and you leave negative feedback for them. One eBay seller (and sizeable brick and mortar dealer) is Zeff Photo. Last time I checked, they have 100% positive feedback. They shouldn't. I purchased a Bronica EC with lens from them, and paid immediately using a method they would accept. That should equate to immediate positive feedback for me. I held up my end of the transaction. The camera and lens has several immediately obvious defects not disclosed, and it locked up after a few shutter triggers. I obtained return authorization and had it shipped back via FedEx. I was contacted a few days later and was informed the damage was due to RETURN trip to Zeff, and I would have to make a claim. Since I am not aware of any temporal anomalies in the vicinity which would cause damage manifest a few days earlier to have a cause several days later, I was skeptical, to say the least. Long story short, I got a refund, but not for the significant shipping charges accumulated during the whole ordeal. Their eBay guy told me I was lucky and he was doing me a favor. Some favor, to the tune of $45 lost to unnecessary shipping expense Zeff Photo has a good reputation, but the guy who managed the eBay department did not give me a square deal, and he engages in this feedback withholding strategy I describe. I am in feedback limbo with them. Aric -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:45 PM To: pentax discuss Subject: OT: A bizarre ebay experience. I'm very POed at ebay. Among other items, I listed a Spotmatic Motor Drive camera and 50mm lens on ebay the other night. I set a first bid of $375 and did not specifiy a buy it now price or a reserve. Last night I received a notice that the camera had been purchased on a buy it now bid by someone in Japan. I have tried replying to the ebay message to indicate that there is some kind of mistake. I've filed a report with their mediation service, and I've written the purported buyer. All to no avail. I've heard from no one, and my auction has been down for almost 20 hours. What's more, a list member had hoped to purchase the camera and had planned to bid on the last day. I don't know how to resolve this.
Re: A*200/4 Macro manual?
On Wednesday, January 14, 2004, at 05:42 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 13 Jan 2004 at 18:54, Mark Cassino wrote: Just dug into the box my A* 200 f4 macro came in and found a manual entitled Pentax 35mm Interchangeable Lenses. It is not specific to the 200 f4 - it covers all A and A* lenses, plus a few K lenses (like the 500 f4.5 and reflex zoom 400-600, etc). There are a couple of pages devoted to the 4 macro lenses covered - the A 50 f2.8, A 100 f2.8, A 100 f4, and A* 200 f4. Thanks Mark, I've actually got a copy of this manual, many thanks for the offer. I'm a little disappointed that the near superfluous housing for the RTF on the *ist D prevents the A*200/4 macro from rotating much past horizontal :-( Cheers, Rob, I don't understand what you are saying above. Are you saying the A*200/4 is unusable on the *ist D? How? IL Bill
Re: KEH does it again
William Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While we're talking about KEH, anyone have experience with their repair service? Good or bad? Hi William, Our fellow PMDLer John F. DeLoach is repair technician at KEH, and I can state he is a great guy. Ciao, Gianfranco = To read is to travel without all the hassles of luggage. ---Emilio Salgari (1863-1911) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus
RE: A bizarre ebay experience.
On 14/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Zeff Photo has a good reputation, but the guy who managed the eBay department did not give me a square deal, and he engages in this feedback withholding strategy I describe. I am in feedback limbo with them. Simple. You can leave feedback on a completed auction for up to 90 days after auction close. To the second. Get my drift? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Confused in Israel: digi backup to digi?!
The reason for a backup in general is obvious. I had my MV1 break during my trip to Africa and was fortunate enough to have a kindly Nikon User lend me her backup F4 (it was a backup because the AF pin was broken; this is my only Nikon experience, but it was 15 rolls) A film backup for a DSLR is fine, but his means you also have to carry film. Ideally, if you're shooting digital you want digital backup. Also, your choice of lenses would be different with 35 mm and APS sensor. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DSLR future wish-list
Hi, OK, so I am out of date here. When I first heard of bluetooth there were things like connection to the coke machine, atm, etc. Seems I like the first info was kind of exagerated as usual. you walk within a few feet of a Coke machine. A bottle drops out and charges your credit card. Then you walk past an ATM and it dispenses your usual cash withdrawal. All the clipboard-carrying charity collectors fight the wasted junkies to get to it first. After that you walk past a cellphone shop; the kiosk inside detects your camera, prints 2 copies of all 10,000 images you thought you'd deleted, and debits your current account. It'll be great for the economy. Consumers will protest about it though, so the politicians (who are all non-executive directors of banks and telcos) will introduce an opt-in bill. After weeks of philibustering and hundreds of amendments they'll pass it as an opt-out act. If you don't want Bluetooth machines debiting you everytime you go within 5 yards of them, you will need to visit each machine and type in your personal opt-out id, and PIN. For security reasons each device will require you to have a different id and PIN. When you get home you find 17 trucks queuing up outside your house waiting to delivery 120 tons of maize and soya beans. Your fridge ordered £10- worth of mixed, fresh vegetables, but you were the only person in the country who guessed wrong when it was time to tick the 'uncheck if you don't want to enter opt-out of non-GM radiation-enhanced foods non-receival mode' box. So they've sent it all to you. What a great world. Earlier today I was deleting junk email on my PC when my home phone rang. I picked it up and it was somebody cold-calling, trying to find out how much I paid for my mobile. Just then the mobile vibrated; I looked at it - it was a junk call. Somebody knocked on the door. I got rid of the cold caller on my landline, waded through the free newspapers, pizza and curry menus someone had shoved through the letterbox earlier and opened the door. Somebody wanting to sell me washing-up brushes at exorbitant prices. For over 5 minutes I did nothing but fend off the crap we're assaulted with. Jeez! What a wonderful world we've built for ourselves. -- Cheers, Bob
Re: A*200/4 Macro manual?
On 14 Jan 2004 at 17:05, Mr. William M Kane wrote: Rob, I don't understand what you are saying above. Are you saying the A*200/4 is unusable on the *ist D? How? Hi Bill, The over-hang of the RTF sticks out so far that apart from making the aperture ring difficult to access it also prevents the 200/4 Macro from being rotated to allow portrait orientation as the control knobs hit the protrusion. So it is usable but it's a right pain when you are used to just spinning the camera/lens on the tripod mount to frame the subject. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: OT ideas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While that would be cool, how about a grip that transmits the data? That way you could have your data on the drive but also transmitted to your desktop. Just thinking about stuff and waiting for my dinner to arrive... Hi Cory, The Nikon D2H can do something like that. It can mount a grip for wireless transmission of the data (I guess also through the net). Useful for PJs for sure. Gianfranco = To read is to travel without all the hassles of luggage. ---Emilio Salgari (1863-1911) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus
OT: Another Bike Photo
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2051027 Printed full frame (hence the black abatement), so I know cropping will help. Just thought I'd see how it looks this way. cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: DSLR/PC plateau?
Hi, some quick thoughts late in the night follow... One quick example would be when something happens (relatively soon) such as sensors becoming not only way higher in resolution but also much more light-sensitive than film. Among other things, this Well, light sensitivity would be nice, of course, and the the only thing to get new sensors for. Especially for us available night guys. But I think I got quite used to 1600 iso film, souped in good soups, so I don't need much than that. would allow both digital-only (non optical) zoom and total depth of field. Software after the fact would allow you to select the focal plane and bokeh. When Yes, the eq-geeks will dictate it. But for _photography_, I hope I still don't need to heed the geeks. And I don't want to, anyway. Although the dictates of the market are hard. If they are hard enough, I will just drop out of the market, and find my own way. I am using old computers already, and doing fine. And using 30 years old cameras, doing fine. Of course, for photo-income, it's harder and harder. But I will probably find my own small niche, because I think this progress thing is just damn crazy. I will leave it to the technophiles, who can't cate a decent photograph anyway most of the time. If noone invented digital, I would be the happier, btw. For all the equipment changes and thinking changes, one cannot focuse on quality. Not telling that _quality_ is going down the drain anyway. Perhaps I am better accustomed to another world. Where should we go?!? technology for its own sake is _not_ the holy grail, but I think that is too much offtopic. Perhaps the kind of us will get looked at as luddites, old fools (although I am young in years) or just fools... Well, to tell you, I don't want that kind of world. And there are alternatives, fortunately, so far. Better be a fool than somebody who just follows the wave mindlessly. specious. We'll just find more uses that tax the current and future ones. Already you need almost the fastest type of consumer computer just to play a halfway decent software grand piano sample and there's Well, if that's progress, I will more likely adhere to your sig line ;-) or slightly abbreviated: less is more. And if some futurologists (a hint - look up Stanislaw Lem, his futurologist books from 30 years ago /Summa Technologiae/ are quite spot-on, as not only Polacks will tell you). Progress should be about quality, and that it is now not. Not at all. On computers, there are some things that can get better, sure. But WHY?!?! What about human relations, FIRST???! The technology just ain't improving them that much. Sure, I can talk to all of you guys at PDML via the Internet, but I would MUCH MORE like to talk to few of you guys in a local or distant pug. NOT via the internet. The more complex things get, the more hard one can live among them. Chaso DeChaso Less is more cheap - Osvaldo Valdes, Architect In computers, I still think less is more. And in life, it's the SAME! Frantisek
Re: Questions: M 50/2.0 - any good?
Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! I am about to be enabled with the above lens (SMC M 50/2.0). It is optically identical to A 50/2.0 and very similar (AFAICT) to 50/1.7. I wonder how come Stan's site has nothing to say about it and except one line on Alex's site I couldn't find anything in regular PDML annals g... Especially of course I would be interested in opinions of people who have (had) and/or use (used) this lens. Thanks in advance. Boris Perfectly good, Boris - good glass. I still have and use mine - thought not as much as the f1.4 annsan
Re: Chromes,was: Hi there
Yes I did. No luck. :-( Luckily I use E-6 most. Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan Are you sure that Digital Ice is turned off on the F-2900? I scanned Kodachrome on my Minolta without problem, and have had no problem with it and my Canon FS4000. But it does not work well with IR based dust removal filters. _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: Chromes,was: Hi there
It is not so much about ICE, but everything came out very very dark with Kodachrome. And yes, I did turned off ICE. Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan I don't have a film scanner but I think the major issue is that digital ice (or other similar dust spec software) doesn't work with Kodachrome. _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/viruspgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: SOT: Any leica users among us
Hi, I am one. Although I think I would have problems with the brighlines. Using an external viewfinder is fine for wides, but not for normal lenes for me. Although from quality viewpoint, the limiteds are the most interesting Pentax lenses after the K series (and I had used quite a lot of the M and later lenses, as well as AF from other makers for my Nikon. I guess I am a Luddite and proud of it, after all g) Good light, Frantisek Vlcek
Re: A bizarre ebay experience.
Bruce Dayton wrote: Did anyone notice a recent change in the look of ebay - specifically on the feedback page. More usable and sortable for the feedback. I'm not quite sure when it went in to effect, but, changes like that could perhaps account for some odd problems elsewhere. Obviously, programming changes have occurred. Maybe Paul is a victim of Ebay bugs. Bruce YUp - feedback page change caused some errors getting on and loading today - very annoying... everytime they make things better they get worse. Paul, gosh - that sucks. but could be a hacker as someone said. Did you try contacting SAFE HARBOR? annsan Wednesday, January 14, 2004, 2:11:25 PM, you wrote: MWMK My question may be: Is there a hack in the ebay system that allows MWMK buyers to trick ebay into thinking they won a BIN when it wasn't BIN? MWMK Second question: Did you examine the headers of the email to be sure MWMK they came from ebay? MWMK IL Bill MWMK On Wednesday, January 14, 2004, at 04:00 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I'm the seller. And I'm scrupulous :-). My complaint is that ebay accepted a buy it now bid, and this was not a buy it now auction. Rothman, Aric wrote: If you get no satisfaction, would you share the eBay ID of the seller? It's good to know from who to say away. There is a serious flaw in the feedback system at eBay. Unscrupulous sellers can hold you as a feedback hostage. That is to say, they will not supply feedback to a completed transaction until you do. That way, they can retaliate with negative feedback if they swindle you and you leave negative feedback for them. One eBay seller (and sizeable brick and mortar dealer) is Zeff Photo. Last time I checked, they have 100% positive feedback. They shouldn't. I purchased a Bronica EC with lens from them, and paid immediately using a method they would accept. That should equate to immediate positive feedback for me. I held up my end of the transaction. The camera and lens has several immediately obvious defects not disclosed, and it locked up after a few shutter triggers. I obtained return authorization and had it shipped back via FedEx. I was contacted a few days later and was informed the damage was due to RETURN trip to Zeff, and I would have to make a claim. Since I am not aware of any temporal anomalies in the vicinity which would cause damage manifest a few days earlier to have a cause several days later, I was skeptical, to say the least. Long story short, I got a refund, but not for the significant shipping charges accumulated during the whole ordeal. Their eBay guy told me I was lucky and he was doing me a favor. Some favor, to the tune of $45 lost to unnecessary shipping expense Zeff Photo has a good reputation, but the guy who managed the eBay department did not give me a square deal, and he engages in this feedback withholding strategy I describe. I am in feedback limbo with them. Aric -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:45 PM To: pentax discuss Subject: OT: A bizarre ebay experience. I'm very POed at ebay. Among other items, I listed a Spotmatic Motor Drive camera and 50mm lens on ebay the other night. I set a first bid of $375 and did not specifiy a buy it now price or a reserve. Last night I received a notice that the camera had been purchased on a buy it now bid by someone in Japan. I have tried replying to the ebay message to indicate that there is some kind of mistake. I've filed a report with their mediation service, and I've written the purported buyer. All to no avail. I've heard from no one, and my auction has been down for almost 20 hours. What's more, a list member had hoped to purchase the camera and had planned to bid on the last day. I don't know how to resolve this.
Re: Mobile Card Reader and Disk
What's the best/cheepest way to empty your memory cards on the go? Alle the best Jens We equipped ourselves with an X-drive. Nice toy, so far worked faultlessly. Comes with mains and car cigarette lighter chargers. There are several portable drives available that can read CF cards. Some of them have LCDs on which you can view your images, which I would like to reassure myself that the images have been transferred before I delete them from the CF card. You can find them on Adorama's website. Joe
RE: OT: Kodak APS cameras
Wasn't the Retina SLR made up to at least the late 50's or early 60's? I know they were made in Germany (don't know by whom), but they were badged as Kodak. I don't know if they were great cameras, but they were pretty good for their time, IIRC. cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Jim Apilado [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip Kodak was never a player in the film camera business. I think the last great cameras made by them were in the 1940's, the 35mm Ektra and the medium format (620 film) Medalist cameras. Jim A. _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
