Re: Another new flash with P-TTL :-)
on 17.03.04 7:55, Leon Altoff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It doesn't mention Wireless. I can't manage without my wireless flash! http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/news/ef500dg_sp_p.html You looked at simplier ST version. This one is wireless and does HSS and even more! -- Best Regards Sylwek
Re: OT - Hi mum, I'm on the telly!
I don't understand - there is no registration process when entering the site. How can the web page be selective about who it lets watch the material ?? No Cotty, it won't let us! I have all the latest video players installed and it just doesn't happen. Now if I used my .com email address it might... John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 6:50 AM Subject: RE: OT - Hi mum, I'm on the telly! On 16/3/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Sadly, for us international users, BBC video can only be got by subscription. Love to see ya, Cotty, but not if I have to pay for it! vbg Guess I'll have to wait for GFM! Nuts, what are you on about Knarf? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3513812.stm I used RealPlayer to view the video - - that's free. Can't you log onto the page ?? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: New firmware 1.11 for *ist D
On 17 Mar 2004 at 2:43, Peter J. Alling wrote: I think I can safely say no. Based on my experience they don't. The K mount fix will be back in in version 1.2 but then they'll lose something else... I suspect so. I was just checking the pdf of the latest *ist D brochure to see if the new backwards compatibility rates a mention, doesn't seem so. However in the 4 page brochure it does state quite clearly in a large table that the camera can miraculously squeeze many more large images than small per KB of storage space. Makes me wonder. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
RE: smart dslr?
The big black ugly Microsoft Xcam of course. The first thing you will notice is a world first reset button which is handy whenever the system freezed. Another cool feature is a mini fan to keep it cool as it drew so much power to keep the mega size buffer happy. But on top of all, just in case you made any mistake when you scrolled through the menus, you will be asked Are you sure? for each choice. Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan i am curious when the first camera that runs - MSWindows (of some kind) - Linux - PalmOS will appear. any bets? (of course one can say that it's already there: any PDA with a digicam with it -- but i mean, a *real* camera, with an API under a real OS) mishka _ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
PAW: Night fair
Last weekend was the weekend of the annual fun-fair fundraiser at the local high school (a couple of blocks from where I live). I've quite often used this as an opportunity to try out films for low-light situations (last year was Provia 400F, and I've also tested Portra 800 and the Fuji 1600 print films). This year, of course, I had the opportunity to try the *ist-D. http://panix.com/~johnf/paw/thriller.jpg There was a little more foreground than I really liked in the full-frame shot, but I was somewhat restricted in where I could rest the camera to capture this, which is a half-second exposure at f8 (at ISO 400), taken without a tripod, monopod, or even a bean-bag. So I just cropped off the bottom quarter.
Re: *ist-D and the wide angle lens dilemma
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I assume you are being facetious here? I don't think that Nikon is wise in allowing other manufacturers to walk off with their market unless they are in fact being very savvy about the difficulties of getting good and cheap FF DSLRs. Of course if Kodak actually gets it right before Nikon gets their act together, Nikon may find that they can't SELL a D2X because everyone who needed one bought the Kodak instead, or a Canon. Aren't Kodaks Nikon mounts? Does this not suggest that Nikon is in the best position here, as (I have read it in this list) bodies are not making the money, lenses and accessories are? Kostas
Re: New Pentax Film Body?
- Original Message - From: Robert Leigh Woerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone know the status of the rumored new film flagship from Pentax?? Where is Pal these days?? I haven't been in contact with him since he got a replacement for his broken 645NII. That was about the time he went silent on the list too, iirc. One of his last posts to the list was about what he really wished to do with his life, and there was something about buying a sailboat and go for a _long_ trip. There was also something about driving a taxi on night shifts to build the economy. So, I think he's still owning a Pentax, but is too busy to keep up with PDML. I hope he has time to enjoy photography, though. Cheers, Jostein
Re: Another new flash with P-TTL :-)
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004, Joseph Tainter wrote: Well, we already know that the AF 360 FGZ doesn't execute TTL properly with the *ist D. I don't think that's correct. Folks have attributed the difficulties to the body (and the format), not the flash. Kostas
Re: OT - Hi mum, I'm on the telly!
Cotty wrote: What is ad/spyware? Spyware spies on you and reports on what you do with your computer (what CDs you play; what websites you visit, etc). Adware uses that information to try and make you look at targetted adverts. S Aha. Using cookies no doubt. Thanks. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
e: no fate but what we make
Christian Skofteland wrote: You are not Pentax's market, then are you? They don't get any money from the used market, so why should they cater to people who buy 20+ year-old bodies and lenses on eBay? this is getting really old. how many of you here sold your old gear to finance shiny new dslr? mishka Me. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: DA lenses : quote :The Fifth element :was it Green ?
Hi, Clover I agree with you. It's not a nice colour, but I think it's traditional. The A* lenses had a rubber ring of the same colour to mark it's asterisk-ness. At least my 645 A* 300/4 has one. Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 2:02 AM Subject: DA lenses : quote :The Fifth element :was it Green ? Hello everybody, I do not like Green. ( But Hulk is still a good comics, sometimes ) But I do not agree(n ? ) with the choice of green, for the color of the DA Ring. And You ? ^_^
Re: smart dslr?
I seriously doubt that running a PC operating system will make a dslr any smarter ...:-) Jostein - Original Message - From: Mishka [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 2:24 AM Subject: smart dslr? i am curious when the first camera that runs - MSWindows (of some kind) - Linux - PalmOS will appear. any bets? (of course one can say that it's already there: any PDA with a digicam with it -- but i mean, a *real* camera, with an API under a real OS) mishka
Re: no fate but what we make
On 16/3/04, PENTAX CLOVER LEAF disgorged: The gist of it was that the *istD is the smallest Ok, but it is more a pleasure for women than men, who always need big things to feel great This has always been my experience. 8-D Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: OT - Hi mum, I'm on the telly!
Cotty, may I have your autograph? Thanks, Joe Slight problem, I was going to eBay it - well you know how it is. Needs must Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: no fate but what we make
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps more people would buy it WITH compatability. I'd love to see the snip and any lens that mounts will work with full functionality). Har! Kostas
Re: European PDML Meeting 2004
Hi, I am happy that you like the idea to have a European PDML Meeting in Cologne at the Photokina (28.9.2004-3.10.2004)! To make this meeting a success, I think that we should start preparations right now and discuss the following questions: - On which exact day(s) should the meeting take place? Who is going to Photokina anyway, and on which days? Is it right that Saturday, Octobre 2nd would be most convenient day for most? - Or maybe we could have a prelude on Friday, have the main event at Photokina on Saturday, and have an excursion to some nice place in or near Cologne on Sunday? keller.schaefer schrieb: I could offer to find a nice place to gather in the afternoon, after the Photokina visit - to put some cameras on the table and do some Pentax-talk. - How fortunate that you are from Cologne! Thanks for your offer! I guess it would be great if you can suggest something that could be our European PDML Meeting at Photokina Pub? Maybe the place that you suggest could be near (or identical) to a nice non-expensive place where some of us could find board and lodging? - I guess that Heiko and I can arrang something with the Pentax staff. Are there any other contacts that we could exploit? Greetings from Hamburg, Arnold
Re: no fate but what we make
On 17/3/04, PENTAX CLOVER disgorged: the Canon 10D has plastic chassis but Magnsium ouside cover This is wrong. From DPReview: Magnesium alloy body The EOS-D30/D60 had a metal substructure but a plastic main body. The EOS-10D now has robust magnesium alloy body which is cool to the touch, just like the EOS-1D/1Ds. Lets get the facts right please. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: PUG
Hi, João Yes, there are problems at Komkon at the moment. Adelheid has put up a temporary page with the latest gallery on her own site at: http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/04mar If you have any questions about the site, please write to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you are looking for the submission page, it can be found at: http://oksne.net/autopug/pugform.asp If you have any questions about the submission page, write to me. Best, Jostein - Original Message - From: João Moreira [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 4:20 AM Subject: PUG Hello Are there any problems with the PUG homepage? Is it still at http://www.pug.komkon.org? Regards, Joao __ Yahoo! Mail - O melhor e-mail do Brasil! Abra sua conta agora: http://br.yahoo.com/info/mail.html
Re: OT - Hi mum, I'm on the telly!
On 16/3/04, FRANK disgorged: I don't know what ad/spyware is, but I've got Realplayer in the 'puter that I use. What a freaking PIA! Everytime I put on a music CD to listen to whilst I type away, Realplayer pops up, whether I want to use it or not (I usually just delete it immediately). It then, obviously, sends information to some unseen source of evil, and a pretty picture of the CD that I'm playing pops up, along with reviews of the disc, along with other discs by that artist, along with a pleasant invitation to download stuff, along with adverts that I don't want to see. While all of this is going on, whatever else I'm doing runs real slow, until I let the Realplayer window open completely, then delete, all of which takes several minutes. And, I have to go through this every time I put on another CD. Strange. I have Realone Player for Macintosh vers 9.0 and none of this happens. If I click on a video link, it downloads a small file of just a few kilobytes and I double-click on that to start the video streaming. If I play a CD, it doesn't open at all. Perhaps you have to go into Real prefs and uncheck the 'open when inderting a CD' box? Is that what adware/spyware is? I really don't like the fact that someone somewhere knows what music I listen to. Lord knows what they're doing with that information. And what's wrong with listening to Brittney Spears anyway? (oops, went too far with that info g). BTW, Cotty, I did manage to look at a video on the Coroner's Inquest on the Beeb, but maybe it was the wrong one? I didn't see you in it I don't think. Top right on this page - at 33 seconds in, during the pan of the court... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3513812.stm I'm in the background somewhere - to be honest I couldn't see myself on my measly dial up connection (the quality is crap) but I knew I was there :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: backwards compatible
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and the lack of P or Shutter-priority modes. WE may not find this inconvenient, but the average buyer is probably going to find it offputting. There is no such thing as an average buyer of a $1250 camera. On the one hand are the pros and the enthusiasts, on the other the fashion victims and consumerists who just want another toy to take their fancy for 3 days. The reason why I (fitting in none of the categories above) care about backwards compatibility is my looking (way) into the future. But I am nothing to Pentax, and quite right so, since I will never have any money for them anymore (as I only buy used). Kostas
Re: How Many Lenses Do They Sell? Part II
The one possible fallacy in that estimate is, you might be right if the shipper was careful to ship in strict sequence of serial numbers. Since almost all products these days have inventory bar codes, the record keeping is pretty much automatic, and they don't have to refer to some hand compiled list of parts and serial numbers, to be sure the correct s/n gets placed on the invoice, along with the proper item identification. That makes it harder to ferret out shipping sequence, hence history. Just a thought. keith whaley Joseph Tainter wrote: First, some history. I placed a standing order for the DA 16-45 on Adorama's web site, and in early February I got one of the first in this hemisphere -- s/n 5184028. (I think I got number 28 in the world.) At the same time I placed an order on Adorama's web site for two more DA 16-45s(for two *ist Ds at my lab). Adorama shipped one in early March -- s/n 5184509. Since demand has exceeded supply, I figured that once the distribution center in Manila ships some to Adorama, Adorama then goes to the end of the line. Everyone else in the world gets their order filled (or partly filled) before Adorama gets any more. From that reasoning and the serial numbers I inferred that production was running at about 500 per month. Adorama has just shipped the second one ordered for my lab -- s/n 5184770. That's 261 lenses shipped in a little over two weeks. This seems to confirm that production has been about 500 lenses a month. It appears also that production is catching up with demand. Joe (Purveyor of obscure and unnecessary information to the photographic world)
Re: New Pentax Film Body?
We're missing another frequent poster, too. We had a fella here for a while, who had built his own house on stilts, in the hills above Kona, on the big island of Hawaii. He just sort of dropped out of sight! Yeah, I know, I wish I could remember his name, but since I switched over to the new CPU and O/S, I am temporarily missing my old address book, and sent messages folder, so my retrieval source is not handy. Maybe someone else remembers? Egad! I hope I have the right list! g keith whaley * * * Alan Chan wrote: Where is Pal these days?? He probably bought a C. I was thinking the same. Why else he isn't here to defend Pentax? g Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
Re: Opinion Needed
Oh good! It wasn't just my monitor! Now I can agree with Alan. The dark background also varies in tone or lightness from the lighter bottom left (if I recall correctly) to top right, which is darker. It appears that was because it was (a guess) side lighted from a window or ?. keith whaley Alan Chan wrote: I don't know, but it appears a little dark on my monitor. Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan I like this image, but I'm not sure it would appeal to others. What are your thoughts? http://tripodman.smugmug.com/gallery/65381/2/2906163/Large Larry from Prescott
Re: Opinion Needed
I like the composition, framing and subject matter. But I don't like the light. It's most intense in the lower left and falls off very steeply. I do like the fact that the light is very directional because it creates interesting shadows, but I wish it came more from above left and was more even across the frame. You could probably even it out a bit more in PS. On Mar 16, 2004, at 9:40 PM, Larry Hodgson wrote: I like this image, but I'm not sure it would appeal to others. What are your thoughts? http://tripodman.smugmug.com/gallery/65381/2/2906163/Large Larry from Prescott
Re: no fate but what we make
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But with big and heavy lens, I prefer to use the grip and load 8 AA . ( I plan to plan next year, the 300mm FA f/:2.8 ) Are you planning to hand-hold a 300/2.8, shooting subjects of 450mm equivalent? Interesting! Kostas
Re: OT - Hi mum, I'm on the telly!
They can work out which country you're in by your IP address, with a high level of accuracy. S Cotty wrote: I don't understand - there is no registration process when entering the site. How can the web page be selective about who it lets watch the material ?? No Cotty, it won't let us! I have all the latest video players installed and it just doesn't happen. Now if I used my .com email address it might... John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 6:50 AM Subject: RE: OT - Hi mum, I'm on the telly! On 16/3/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Sadly, for us international users, BBC video can only be got by subscription. Love to see ya, Cotty, but not if I have to pay for it! vbg Guess I'll have to wait for GFM! Nuts, what are you on about Knarf? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3513812.stm I used RealPlayer to view the video - - that's free. Can't you log onto the page ?? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: OT - Hi mum, I'm on the telly!
Cotty wrote: Spyware spies on you and reports on what you do with your computer (what CDs you play; what websites you visit, etc). Adware uses that information to try and make you look at targetted adverts. Aha. Using cookies no doubt. Thanks. Not usually - cookies can let individual websites track you to a limited extent, but for full-on Big Brother, the spyware installs itself on your local machine and hooks its claws directly into your web browser. :-) Of course, there's the issue that most spyware is Windows-only... ;-) S
Re: no fate but what we make
My friend Marc Williams, who wrote a very positive note about the *ist-D on the Leica forum, much preferred my *ist-D to his 10D. His main working camera is a 1D-S, but he used the 10D as a travel camera and backup. He has since sold it and is thinking of buying an *ist-D and a couple of Pentax lenses just for travel. He thought the *ist-D viewfinder was brighter than any of his Canons and much prefered the feel of the camera to the 10D. Paul On Mar 16, 2004, at 11:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. *istD is better built, having a metal chassis instead of a plastic one. That's enough reason for me right there. I am talking about it, comparing with a Canon 10D. My friends found the Pentax cheap built... Feeling metal makes thought it is metal inside. That is why Canon is great, vapor outside... 2. *istD has better viewfinder (.95x instead of .75x magnification) but still not 100% coverage (that is something which cause me big trouble) 3. *istD has pentaprism instead of pentamirror Can you tell me which DSLR has pentamirror ? ( I really do not know, I just remember abour MZ6-ZX6 pentamirror, but better finder than the MZ3 ) 4. I like Pentax glass and their SMC Sure, I also like (I am an owner of 35mm FA f/:2, 50mm FA f/:1.4, 85mm FA f/:1.4 and also 43mm limited , and used to own 20mm FA, 20-35mm FA, 80-200mm FA etc...) 5. *istD has the best battery grip The deph test is the best one, because you can use it on the grip, I agree !!! 6. *istD has HyperProgram and HyperManual modes As I already answered 7. *istD has a PC socket What is this ??? 8. *istD has MLU with the self timer And coming soon the FREE Pentax Remote software 9. *istD is the smallest and lightest DSLR But with big and heavy lens, I prefer to use the grip and load 8 AA . ( I plan to plan next year, the 300mm FA f/:2.8 ) 10. *istD, even with firmware 1.0, still works fine with my screwmount lenses. Much more : I can go on using the ring with FA lens !!! There's ten reasons right there. Give me another 20 seconds and I can give you another ten. I can give you 20 seconds more !!! I wish people would stop slamming Pentax when they finally put out an impressive camera for a comparatively cheap price. The problem is not only buyers, but also sellers. In France, they are reluctant to sell Pentax stuff... Sure, Canon and Nikon will focus quieter and a bit faster if you buy their ultra-pricey USM/AF-S lenses, and IS/VR is certainly a cool feature, but how many people need those features? I do not need a Star wars light saber MAster Replicas, but I own one... Meaning, people buy possibilities but not use it. You don't seem to realize that AF performance is only one small factor in a DSLR's overall appeal. Pentax has a ton of advantages that N/C don't offer. Sorry, but it is like cars : how speed they can reach is not how good they are really. But at least, it makes a difference to average consumers. I always remember a group of young tourist, in the front of a store : the girl which to buy the Canon first price SLR, because it was branded Canon. But it was really on of the worse SLR in the world... Appeal is not easy to make people feel, if they do not know about photography. That is why we need advertising and good brand. It gives us some insurance... PS : I promess you one thing, from March 25th to 28th, I really have to front people that will be much more aggressive than myself... Guess why...
RE: *istD Remote assistant soon...
Oooh! What time do they normally put stuff up? I am guessing it may be another 12 hours or so before it is available, then I have to pluck up enough courage to upgrade my firmware, then install it on my laptop and hope it works!! Will still check the site occasionally over the next couple of hours though... -Original Message- From: Michel Carrère-Gée [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 March 2004 14:40 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *istD Remote assistant soon... Rob Brigham a écrit : on Japanese site: http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2004/200412.html Alta Vista translates that it will be available as a free download. March 18 for Windows. Mid April for Mac. It's 23:40 in Tokyo !!
Re: C-41 Tetenal Tabs Kit continued
Hi Butch et al, I've posted a page of images taken from films processed in Tetenal C-41 and a few done in the E-6 3 bath. The frames were chosen completely at random without any concern for their aesthetic value. They are just pictures. Later I'll go through my 6 x 6 slides and find a few that were done in the UK 6 Tetenal (E-6) kit which was the one before the E-6 3 bath kits appeared -- about four years ago. Anyone interested can find them at: http://kotisivu.mtv3.fi/edfw/tetenal/index.htm Don ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery See Extra Pages 'The Cement Company from HELL!' Updated: August 15, 2003 Oh my God! They've killed Teddy!
Re: *istD Remote assistant soon...
On 17 Mar 2004 at 15:40, Michel Carrère-Gée wrote: Rob Brigham a écrit : on Japanese site: http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2004/200412.html Alta Vista translates that it will be available as a free download. March 18 for Windows. Mid April for Mac. It's 23:40 in Tokyo !! It's 1:43AM in Sydney and later in NZ. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re:PAW Lavender Bay
Cotty,Australia not only looks civilised but most assuredly is.Unfortunately it is far too late to change over to the right side of the road.Would cause bloody mayhem. Regards Chris Kennedy
Re: New Pentax Film Body?
Considering the following: 1 - The market has switched to digital, once and for all. 2 - Pentax arrived late with this technology and is not selling enough digicams. 3 - The latest (probably the last) of the Limited series lenses (31mm) was introduced three years ago. 4 - High-end lenses (FA*) are disappering from the catalogs as they go out of stock, without replacement. 5 - Minoru Suzuki, the designer of the Spotmatic and the LX, retired last year. I'm convinced, now more than ever, that we won't see such a camera. Dario Bonazza - Original Message - From: Robert Leigh Woerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 12:23 AM Subject: New Pentax Film Body? Anyone know the status of the rumored new film flagship from Pentax?? Where is Pal these days?? Robert
Re: New Pentax Film Body?
What a depressing turn of events ... Dario Bonazza wrote: Considering the following: 1 - The market has switched to digital, once and for all. 3 - The latest (probably the last) of the Limited series lenses (31mm) was introduced three years ago. 4 - High-end lenses (FA*) are disappering from the catalogs as they go out of stock, without replacement. 5 - Minoru Suzuki, the designer of the Spotmatic and the LX, retired last year.
Re: zoom distortion
AFAIK, no asymmetrical lens (all 35mm lenses I know of) is going to be distortion free. Most high-end lenses are corrected to within about 1-2% these days, but that is still visible to the naked eye if you look closely. Zooms are the most difficult to correct (usually barrel at the wide end, pincushion at the long), then retro-focus lens (barrel), lenses in the 50 to 100 are the easiest, tele-lenses tend to pincushion. Symmetrical lenses can have very low distortion which is why many view camera lenses use that type of construction. -- Keith Whaley wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've bought the famous Pentax Zoom A 70/210 4 but i'm a little bit disapointed because there are pincushion distortions. When I take a picture, for exemple, of a painting, the borders are deformed. Is it normal ? For me it's important because I do a lot of architectural photos. As I understand it it is quite normal and perhaps unavoidable for zooms to have pincusion or barrel distortion in some portion of their focal length ranges--all the big expensive Nikon and Canon stuff has it. Are you sure about that ? If I were a pro with a very expensive Canon kit, for instance, I'd really get upset with Canon if I found distortion at one end or the other. That's presumably why you pay the high price for those outrageous lenses! Since I don't shoot anything that requires distortion-free performance I don't notice it. Note that many PRIMES have some barrel or pincusion distortion too, even 50s. You might see if there is one focal length, probably near the middle of the range, in which the zoom shows no distortion or less distortion. Most of the Nikon zooms I've read reviews of apparently have a spot somewhere in the middle of the range that is distortion free, but have barrel distortion wider than that and pincushion distortion longer than that. Apparently that is about as good as it gets with zooms. Okay, but it still seems unacceptable to me. Maybe I've lived with my head in the clouds too long. Time to recognize those horribly expensive lenses have their optical faults too! I'm curious what the gigantic 80-210/4.5 SMC-T lens could do! DJE keith whaley -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
Re: New Pentax Film Body?
On 17 Mar 2004 at 6:59, Shel Belinkoff wrote: What a depressing turn of events ... Got to keep it positive, think of all those lovely DA lenses (sans aperture controls anf FF coverage) that you can throw your lazy bucks at. :-( Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: First US Popular TV Drama
I LOVED the Cisco Kid! Jim Apilado wrote: Television didn't reach Portland, Oregon until early 1952. I recall going to a department store on Friday night to watch TV because no one yet had a TV. My favorite westerns were The Cisco Kid and The Lone Ranger. I was a little disappointed to see my heroes on TV because I had developed an image of them when they were radio programs. Early dramas I recall were Westinghouse Playhouse and Playhouse 90. I believe these hour shows were shown live back on the east coast and on kinescope in the west. Some writers, like Rod Serling (of Twilight Zone fame), got their first TV start on these dramas. I am still a fan of radio drama. There is a series out of Seattle called Imagination Theater that uses the old formula for radio dramas.
Re: New Pentax Film Body?
I just don't see that happening for me ... all I can say is thank goodness for the used market. Even though I don't care for autofocus lenses and cameras, I feel badly for those who do like or need them, and who may soon be unable to get that type of gear. Over the years most of my Pentax gear has been purchased used, although there have been three cameras and several lenses that I bought new. Pentax hasn't offered me anything since the LX, and while I'm considering a DSLR, and would like to go with Pentax in order to use older lenses, there doesn't seem to be any new lenses that push my buttons right now. Perhaps that will change ... but 'tis a sad morning for me thinking about such things. I think I'll go feed my cats ... Rob Studdert wrote: On 17 Mar 2004 at 6:59, Shel Belinkoff wrote: What a depressing turn of events ... Got to keep it positive, think of all those lovely DA lenses (sans aperture controls anf FF coverage) that you can throw your lazy bucks at. :-(
Re: New Pentax Film Body?
I fully agree with you. I only hope I'm wrong, missing some important detail, but I currently cannot see which one. Dario Bonazza - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 3:59 PM Subject: Re: New Pentax Film Body? What a depressing turn of events ... Dario Bonazza wrote: Considering the following: 1 - The market has switched to digital, once and for all. 3 - The latest (probably the last) of the Limited series lenses (31mm) was introduced three years ago. 4 - High-end lenses (FA*) are disappering from the catalogs as they go out of stock, without replacement. 5 - Minoru Suzuki, the designer of the Spotmatic and the LX, retired last year.
WTB Clamp on hood for Tokina AT-X 28-85
I need a clamp on-not the spring loaded clip on/bayonet-hood for a Tokina AT-X 28-85 manual focus lens. If anyone in the U.S.A. or Canada (sorry, overseas shipping probably wouldn't be worth it) has one they'd like to sell or donate please write me off list. Thanks, Mike
Re: no fate but what we make
I had rent a 300mm FA f/:2.8 when I try the AF speed of my MZS. This is really a great funny lens ! You can use it without tripod and the aperture is great !!! Have you forgotten that on the *ist-D the 300 has the same field of view as a 450 on 35mm? In such magnifications small angles at the source make big differences in the target. Kostas Nevermind, I will try it next week ! (just try not buy yet)
Re: no fate but what we make
- Original Message - From: Mishka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christian Skofteland wrote: You are not Pentax's market, then are you? They don't get any money from the used market, so why should they cater to people who buy 20+ year-old bodies and lenses on eBay? this is getting really old. how many of you here sold your old gear to finance shiny new dslr? mishka I sold three MXen, an LX a SuperProgram, a P3 and several M and K lenses to finance the *ist D and couldn't be happier with my decision. Christian
Re: New firmware 1.11 for *ist D
- Original Message - From: Rob Studdert Subject: Re: New firmware 1.11 for *ist D On 17 Mar 2004 at 8:14, Chris Brogden wrote: Does this mean that M and K lenses are better supported with 1.10 than with 1.11? Do you lose stop-down metering with 1.11? Well mine certainly doesn't any longer, it's supposed to according to the accompanying blurb. Green button does jack ... now. Is it possible to go back to version 1.1, or are you stuck with it now? I haven't made the switch to 1.11, and won't if it costs non A series operation. William Robb
Re: AF280T no longer TTL - repair needed
- Original Message - From: Lon Williamson Subject: AF280T no longer TTL - repair needed I've got two AF280T flashes that I use on SuperProgram bodies. One can still use all modes except TTL - it will flash in that mode but fails to interact with the finder display in any way, and the flash duration, as judged by charge time, seems off in this mode. Could this be a simple Do It Yourself repair? If so, what should I look for? If not, does anyone still repair these flashes? It could be as simple as a dirty contact or broken wire, bith easily fixed. Of course, it could also be a fried controller, not so easily fixed. William Robb
Re: zoom distortion
- Original Message - From: Keith Whaley Subject: Re: zoom distortion Are you sure about that ? If I were a pro with a very expensive Canon kit, for instance, I'd really get upset with Canon if I found distortion at one end or the other. That's presumably why you pay the high price for those outrageous lenses! Both the EF 28-70 f/2.8 and 70 (80) - 200 f/2.8 suffer from barrel distortion. In addition, the 28-70 has bad veiling flare and poor contrast. This is just judging the lens from printing negatives that came our from behind those lenses. William Robb
Re: New Pentax Film Body?
Amen, brother. - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 10:16 AM Subject: Re: New Pentax Film Body? I just don't see that happening for me ... all I can say is thank goodness for the used market.
RE: New firmware 1.11 for *ist D
Looking on dpreview there are at least 2 people reporting 1.11 still working with non-A lenses. Nobody else is reporting a problem. Perhaps try re-installing the firmware? Sounds a bit strange, and would certainly make me pause for thought if I used old lenses - but presumably you can easily go back? -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 March 2004 15:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New firmware 1.11 for *ist D - Original Message - From: Rob Studdert Subject: Re: New firmware 1.11 for *ist D On 17 Mar 2004 at 8:14, Chris Brogden wrote: Does this mean that M and K lenses are better supported with 1.10 than with 1.11? Do you lose stop-down metering with 1.11? Well mine certainly doesn't any longer, it's supposed to according to the accompanying blurb. Green button does jack ... now. Is it possible to go back to version 1.1, or are you stuck with it now? I haven't made the switch to 1.11, and won't if it costs non A series operation. William Robb
Re: Opinion Needed
The subject matter would be very appealing in certain circles Pony play anyone? Seriously though, I don't like the lighting, but the composition is good. Like others have said, I'd like to see a better-lit color version. Christian - Original Message - From: Larry Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 9:40 PM Subject: Opinion Needed I like this image, but I'm not sure it would appeal to others. What are your thoughts? http://tripodman.smugmug.com/gallery/65381/2/2906163/Large Larry from Prescott
RE: Tetenal chemistry
Hi Don The color and density look good on those images. I did notice on my monitor that the thumbnails seem to be distorted, stretched along the long dimension. IIRC I thought that the owl pic was slightly green. Butch
Re: zoom distortion
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, William Robb wrote: Both the EF 28-70 f/2.8 and 70 (80) - 200 f/2.8 suffer from barrel distortion. In addition, the 28-70 has bad veiling flare and poor contrast. This is just judging the lens from printing negatives that came our from behind those lenses. My daughter's christening was covered by a pro with a v expensive C lens (I insist :-). We are talking flare here... Kostas
Re: no fate but what we make
On 17/3/04, CLOVERSAN discumbobulated: Magnesium alloy body The EOS-D30/D60 had a metal substructure but a plastic main body. The EOS-10D now has robust magnesium alloy body which is cool to the touch, just like the EOS-1D/1Ds. Lets get the facts right please. ok, I just check the Canon website . But do you see that you give an argue against the *ist D ??? No, I see that I have simply corrected an error. I give no argument for or against. (PS : I do not disgorged, I am trying to discuss gently tough...) I just changed my attribution line in honour of Sir Edmund Blackadder, proving nothing if not insanity on my behalf. Salut, Cotty http://vintage-art-posters.junglewalk.com/Cotty-Poster-398868.asp ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: Another new flash with P-TTL :-)
That is why I am using the AF400T for my wedding work. Quantum battery and power - even more than the 500FTZ. I do find the 360FGZ useful for daylight fill flash on portraits. Usually it is 1-2 stops lower so not as much power is needed. But I certainly second the need for a more industrially featured flash unit from Pentax. FWIW, I believe that Sunpak makes the 360FGZ for Pentax. I wouldn't be surprised if they made the flashes for Sigma either. If you find out that the Sunpak can use an external battery, let us know. -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, March 16, 2004, 11:55:23 PM, you wrote: mm Why Pentax never made a 500 FGZ for the MZs, or*istD is completely beyond mm me. mm I mean what the hell were they thinking! mm The 360 is too weak, can't swivel, can't use a power-pack, and has a hot mm shoe locking system that's made of Swiss cheese. mm Mine broke the first time I mounted it. mm If this new Sigma flash had an auxiliary socket to plug a Quantum Turbo Z mm into it, I'd buy one. mm Wedding photographers need those featuresall of 'em! mm Max
Re:PAW Lavender Bay
On 17/3/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] discumbobulated: Cotty,Australia not only looks civilised but most assuredly is.Unfortunately it is far too late to change over to the right side of the road.Would cause bloody mayhem. Regards Chris Kennedy It is on the list of most-would-like-to-visit, which is: 1. Japan 2. Australia 3. Thailand 4. India 5. er, that's it for now. Overspent. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: zoom distortion
Hi William, Thanks for that observation. All good info to put away for reference... keith whaley William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Keith Whaley Subject: Re: zoom distortion Are you sure about that ? If I were a pro with a very expensive Canon kit, for instance, I'd really get upset with Canon if I found distortion at one end or the other. That's presumably why you pay the high price for those outrageous lenses! Both the EF 28-70 f/2.8 and 70 (80) - 200 f/2.8 suffer from barrel distortion. In addition, the 28-70 has bad veiling flare and poor contrast. This is just judging the lens from printing negatives that came our from behind those lenses. William Robb
Photo Monthly
Just thought I'd let you all know about a success. I 've had a picture of bees printed in the UK publication Photography Monthly, April issue. It's as part of a portfolio from Edmonton Camera Club. They should be sending us some films as payment. Woohoo is the right expression I think! Nick.
Re: why buy *istD
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * They like the small size It's got competition there, if perhaps not equally-featured competition. I can also understand the desire for small size. My girlfriend really likes the *istD because it fits her hands well. I have a bit of trouble handling the thing, although the makes-it-heavier grip might help. What competition do we have for a small D-SLR with a high build quality? There is nothing as small as the *ist D. The 300D is the closest and is not in the same category of camera. I like the small size because it makes it easier for me to carry the camera more often. I shoot most of my photographs while hiking (backpacking) or on vacation. In both cases I don't want to be carrying around a 3lb body with a large collection of glass. I bought my ZX-5n in 1995 largely because it was compact and I could carry it and a couple of lenses in a small amount of space (I also really liked the classic UI). The *ist D is not as compact, but it is the closest thing that I can get now. I expect that if you ask most members of this list why they bought a Pentax SLR in the first place that those would be two common answers. The other is probably the quality of lenses. IMHO Pentax has NOTHING on the other guys here, although it may well give you better quality for the same price and have more useful gradations in price/quality (Canon seems to have no middle level lenses). The middle level lenses are a huge advantage when you are going for smaller. I'd much rather have a constant f4 zoom of high quality than a constant f2.8 zoom that weighs 2-3x as much. I like that Pentax makes mid-level lenses which are high quality but not necessarily super fast. The 28-70/4, 16-45/4, and 24-90/3.5-4.5 are all good examples of this in modern zooms. The 50/1.7, 24/2.8, 35/2, and 135/3.5 that I own are good examples in primes. I personally wouldn't a Canon tomorrow if all of my gear was stolen. The cameras and lenses are big and I don't like their UI. I'll tolerate big, expensive gear if it gives me capabilities that I need and cannot get elsewhere. Not all Canon gear is big and heavy either, although perhaps all of it worth owning is. Again, it sounds like we shoot in different situtations. If I shot in a studio or carried all of my gear in a car then I would have different preferences. I typically am carrying my gear by hand (or occasionally by bicycle) and size and weight are very big concerns. alex
Re: New firmware 1.11 for *ist D
On 17 Mar 2004 at 8:14, Chris Brogden wrote: Does this mean that M and K lenses are better supported with 1.10 than with 1.11? Do you lose stop-down metering with 1.11? Well mine certainly doesn't any longer, it's supposed to according to the accompanying blurb. Green button does jack ... now. Rob (waiting patiently for v1.12) Same here. Hope they correct it with 1.12. Bill
Re: New Pentax Film Body?
Only if you view the glass as half empty. All those existing Limited and * lenses still work just as well as they ever did, and so do the LXes, MXes, ... (Film is getting hard to find, but that's anther story). In addition to all the film-based technology, we now have the option of the all-digital systems. From what I've seen, these seem more than capable of producing some stunning images. Choice. It's a _good_ thing. (Or, of course, you can just sit around and whinge that the world is going to hell in a handbasket, and it was better in the old days). What a depressing turn of events ... Dario Bonazza wrote: Considering the following: 1 - The market has switched to digital, once and for all. 3 - The latest (probably the last) of the Limited series lenses (31mm) was introduced three years ago. 4 - High-end lenses (FA*) are disappering from the catalogs as they go out of stock, without replacement. 5 - Minoru Suzuki, the designer of the Spotmatic and the LX, retired last year.
RE: Photo Monthly
Nick Clark wrote: Just thought I'd let you all know about a success. I 've had a picture of bees printed in the UK publication Photography Monthly, April issue. It's as part of a portfolio from Edmonton Camera Club. They should be sending us some films as payment. Woohoo is the right expression I think! Woohoo indeed, nice one Nick. I will get a copy of that! Malcolm
Re: smart dslr?
A company called Flashpoint Technologies developed a real OS specifically for digital cameras in the late 1990's. It was called Digita and was included in a number of Kodak, Pentax, HP, and Minolta cameras, but hasn't been seen in any cameras lately. The Flashpoint website is still alive but their last press release was from 2001. Not a good sign. If you look at, for example, a number of different cameras within a given manufacturer's line, you see a lot of commonality in the user interfaces, menus, etc. It's pretty clear that many of the major manufacturers (e.g. Canon, Nikon, Pentax, etc.) have their own proprietary operating systems that they customize and evolve for each new camera. Since digital cameras are high-volume items, it's probably significantly more profitable to keep this development in-house rather than pay royalties to, say, Microsoft (or even PalmSource). From what I've seen in the marketplace, many companies seem to be extremely reluctant to incorporate Microsoft software into their products if they don't have to. --Mark Mishka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i am curious when the first camera that runs - MSWindows (of some kind) - Linux - PalmOS will appear. any bets? (of course one can say that it's already there: any PDA with a digicam with it -- but i mean, a *real* camera, with an API under a real OS) mishka
Re: New Pentax Film Body?
Not whining, John ... just disappointed that there may be no no new lenses of the type described, and the reduction of choice. It's also sad, imo, that pentax is no longer the company I remember it to be - a company with some stature in the market place. shel John Francis wrote: Only if you view the glass as half empty. All those existing Limited and * lenses still work just as well as they ever did, and so do the LXes, MXes, ... (Film is getting hard to find, but that's anther story). In addition to all the film-based technology, we now have the option of the all-digital systems. From what I've seen, these seem more than capable of producing some stunning images. Choice. It's a _good_ thing. (Or, of course, you can just sit around and whinge that the world is going to hell in a handbasket, and it was better in the old days). What a depressing turn of events ... Dario Bonazza wrote: Considering the following: 1 - The market has switched to digital, once and for all. 3 - The latest (probably the last) of the Limited series lenses (31mm) was introduced three years ago. 4 - High-end lenses (FA*) are disappering from the catalogs as they go out of stock, without replacement. 5 - Minoru Suzuki, the designer of the Spotmatic and the LX, retired last year.
Re: zoom distortion
I'm curious what the gigantic 80-210/4.5 SMC-T lens could do! DJE Same normal zoom behaviour... I will check the 3.5 version tomorrow (K-mount, as long as the 4.5 but fat). 85-210mm to be exact. Andre
Re: PAW: Night fair
On 17 Mar 2004 at 4:30, John Francis wrote: This year, of course, I had the opportunity to try the *ist-D. http://panix.com/~johnf/paw/thriller.jpg There was a little more foreground than I really liked in the full-frame shot, but I was somewhat restricted in where I could rest the camera to capture this, which is a half-second exposure at f8 (at ISO 400), taken without a tripod, monopod, or even a bean-bag. So I just cropped off the bottom quarter. The colour looks is rich and natural, do you find the *ist D offers better performance than colour film when shooting low light images like this? Most of the fairground colours are either the bright, rich, saturated reds and yellows of the lights on the rides, or the well lit midways (high-intensity floodlights as used on highway maintenance towers), so I haven't found colour to be a problem on any film I've tried. The overall light balance is pretty close to daylight. What I liked about the *ist-D (apart from the smooth, low-noise blacks) was the ability to see what did and didn't work immediately. I first tried this shot with a rather faster exposure. Not only did this not blur the spinning drum quite enough - it didn't catch all the blinking lights in the big THRILLER sign. So I simply switched to a slower shutter speed (and dialed back the ISO - another nice *ist-D capability) and tried again.
RE: Photo Monthly
Subject: Photo Monthly Just thought I'd let you all know about a success. I 've had a picture of bees printed in the UK publication Photography Monthly, April issue. It's as part of a portfolio from Edmonton Camera Club. They should be sending us some films as payment. Woohoo is the right expression I think! Nick. Well done!!! I will take a look in Smiths, hope it's the first of many. Ziggy
Re: no fate but what we make
I'm not tripping over Pentax film SLRs either Pentax is not big in the market for anything but PSes True. I haven't seen a film *ist either. Of course I rarely see anyone with a film camera of any kind anymore, even though I'm sure millions of people are still using them. I happen to work in a pretty affluent area. You are not Pentax's market, then are you? They don't get any money from the used market, so why should they cater to people who buy 20+ year-old bodies and lenses on eBay? I'm probably not in Pentax's market, no. OTOH, I've considered buying a CANON to put my screwmount lenses on, so Pentax could yet get a sale out of me with the right camera. They might want to cater to guys who bought those lenses from Pentax 20+ years ago and are still buying Pentax lenses. If Cosina ever sold a DSLR with K-mount, it would be because they thought enough people would buy a camera for which they could get good lenses cheap on eBay. Forcing obsolesence to get people to buy new stuff is a poor solution, albeit a common one. Nikon has been forced to maintain backwards-compatability for its pro cameras, In this regard, Pentax offers a lot more compatability. all you need is the little A thingy on the lens. That's been around since 1983. Nikon pro cameras work to the full functionality of any Nikon lens made since 1959 (with some oddball exceptions). They work with full modern functionality with all lenses with CPUs in them, which would be 1986 or thereabouts and on, plus you can sometimes get CPUs hacked into older lenses by devious technicians. This is greater compatibility than Pentax, but to get it you have to buy the top-of-the-line Nikons. This is, BTW, the path I think Pentax should take--offer one DSLR and one film SLR with the mechanical connections to support the loyal customers with the good old lenses, and charge premium prices for these cameras. If that K18/3.5 is REALLY that important to you, you'll shell out for the camera that can use it. While I'd love to see mechanical connections in ALL cameras, I can see why Pentax would like to move beyond them. For the record, I like the *istD but I'm not going to get a Pentax DSLR unless it either gets a lot cheaper (so that it is a toy, essentially), or it gets a full-frame sensor. I'm not willing to pay real money for a camera with such major compromises given my collection of older Pentax gear. So for you this whole argument is moot! for the money the ist D is comparable to the 10D (same features same pixel count and same crop - kind of). I'd give the edge to the Canon, but primarily on system grounds rather than the features in the camera itself. I'm hoping that the argument will not always be moot. I'd really like to put those screw-mount lenses on a DSLR, and given the back focus it isn't going to be a Nikon. K to M42 adapters are readily availible, so I really am hoping for an eventual Pentax DSLR that I will feel is worth buying (for me). If you want a cheaper Toy then you'll buy the not so full featured baby-D as people on this list call it which I could almost guarantee would NEVER be compatible with K and M lenses. I can't see why Pentax would make a baby-D that had mechanical contacts, no. OTOH, the *istD is in some ways MORE compatible with my beloved screw-mount stuff than it is with the K/M lenses if you can tolerate working stopped down, and presumably a baby-D would continue this. I am also expecting the *istD to get cheaper eventually, perhaps even availible used which really knocks down the cost. DJE
outselling film
I seem to recall reading a post recently that said that Pentax expects its DSLRs to outsell its film SLRs in two years. Are Pentax's film camera sales that bad? I find it hard to believe that a product that is currently selling for $1350 or thereabouts is going to outsell a product that is going for less than $350. Where are people going to come up with that spare $1000? The film N80 is likewise $1000 cheaper than the digital D100 that is based on it, and there are several Nikon models below that, in the $300 range. Perhaps people who are currently buying N70s for roughly $300 are not going to buy D70s for $1000 but will buy a $300 coolpix digital PS instead (that's cheaper than a lot of coolpixes...) If people were willing to spend $1000 for SLRs, why is there so much effort put into capturing the $250 and $300 segment of the market? I don't see everyone toting MZ-Ss, or even Nikon F100 or Canon EOS-3s (which can run rings around a D70 in almost every way). Last I looked, $300 didn't get you a very impressive digital PS. The models that tempted me were more like $500, which could have gotten me a second LX in good shape instead. Pop photo's report from Japan suggested that most manufacturers expected digital camera and film camera sales to stabilize. Digital SLRs are still trickling down to the lower rungs of pros who have much stronger economic and functional reasons to pay for them than most people, and this may account for the continued strong DSLR sales. DJE
Re: D76
At 11:12 AM 3/17/2004 -0600, you wrote: From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only developer that I found worked well with T-Max film is T-Max developer. Unfortunately, yes. That's why I'm moving to Pan F. I'm no expert on BW chemistry, but I get fine results using D76 1:! and TMax. - MCC - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI http://www.markcassino.com -
Re: First US Popular TV Drama
I loved sci-fi on the radio. When I was a kid in the late-forties, a popular Saturday morning show was Space Patrol. I was a loyal listener. So loyal that I can recite the opening monologue the announcer gave at the start. Some really adult sci-fi came with such programs, Dimension X and X Minus One. Jim A. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 13:13:20 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: First US Popular TV Drama Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 13:13:36 -0500 Jim and Dan, Wow, I forgot about The Cisco Kid! That along with the Lone Ranger were among the best of the early stuff. On discussing it, I recognize that some of my perceptions of the programs are distorted. I was only a 5 year old in 1950 and remember the old/new Halicrafters TV in the apartment before we moved in '51. In the later '50's, these programs became the standard fare of afternoon re-runs and Saturday TV for kids. I'm sure this distorts my early memories. I wish I knew if stuff like Hoppalong Cassidy was originally an adult program... Wow has our level of sophistication changed over the last 50 years! Bevis Butthead vs Hoppalong Cassidy... The old radio dramas were jewels. For a time in the last 20 years, they had re-runs in Chicago. They more than held their own as interesting material. I think the best of these shows turned into the best early TV dramas - Dragnet, The Long Ranger, and later Gunsmoke. My biggest disappointment as a kid was the radio show 'Terry and the Pirates(?)'. It was a thrilling Saturday AM radio show broadcast nationally from Chicago. It was loosely based on the Flying Tigers who flew in China before the US joined the war in the Pacific. I could see those planes taking off and ride right in the cockpit with Terry during the aerial combat encounters. Then my Aunt got tickets to the audience for a Saturday AM broadcast... I remember being in a big theater and squinting over the heads in front of me to see the little people on stage reading into microphones. They didn't pipe the sound effects into the theater, and I was one confused 5 year old. When it was over, it took me a couple of weeks and some explaination to understand what I had seen. The show was ruined for me. I couldn't get by the fact that none of it was real, just imagination. Regards, Bob S. Dan writes: I LOVED the Cisco Kid! Jim Apilado wrote: Television didn't reach Portland, Oregon until early 1952. I recall going to a department store on Friday night to watch TV because no one yet had a TV. My favorite westerns were The Cisco Kid and The Lone Ranger. I was a little disappointed to see my heroes on TV because I had developed an image of them when they were radio programs. Early dramas I recall were Westinghouse Playhouse and Playhouse 90. I believe these hour shows were shown live back on the east coast and on kinescope in the west. Some writers, like Rod Serling (of Twilight Zone fame), got their first TV start on these dramas. I am still a fan of radio drama. There is a series out of Seattle called Imagination Theater that uses the old formula for radio dramas.
Re: PAW - Free Los Siete
Hi, Boris ... There is nothing accidental or serendipitous in the photo. I moved a bit to get the framing where Free was just over her head, and she was somewhat framed by the writing on the wall, almost like a thought balloon or dialogue box that you sometimes see in cartoons. You'll notice, also, that Los Siete on the wall follows a similar angle to a streak on the window behind her, and that the angle at which she is holding the newspaper is also similar. Of course, I was aware of the torn poster in the window as well. I made several exposures of this scene, including a vertical, and all have somewhat similar framing, however, this shot worked best. Thanks for your noting your observations. shel Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! Technically, the writing on the wall is almost totally not blocked by her shadow. Which begs this question - Shel, do you remember, you aimed for that or it came out just like that? Otherwise, this is amazing. Notice, ..ree Los in the window? behind her... Shel, I think I could say this is one of your strongest among those I've seen so far... Boris ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])
remote assistant
OK, I have been to the web address where this download is supposed to be, but I don't read Japanese. How do we access this program? David Madsen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.davidmadsen.com
Re: D76
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 13:37:35 -0500 From: Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] * *I'm no expert on BW chemistry, but I get fine results using D76 1:! and TMax. * *- MCC *- * *Mark Cassino Photography * Sometimes the simplest, most essential things are forgotten D76 is great for many films. Excellent for Plus-X. But most developers do an excellent job. Few tradeoffs. With 135 film the differences can be dramatic. But in LF they're often not quite so significant and each provides a different character to images. You don't lose or diminish the sholder/toe (highlight and shadow detail available) as much as in 135. The greater degree of enlargement is the problem. As always, is because there's more information to work with and scale takes care of the issue. The only real developer issue I've ever heard of is Rodinal in some water suppies (specifically, Cleveland, OH) doesn't work well. Collin
Re: remote assistant
Please post the address regards Rüdiger -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: David Madsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: Pentax Discuss List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Datum: Mittwoch, 17. März 2004 20:47 Betreff: remote assistant OK, I have been to the web address where this download is supposed to be, but I don't read Japanese. How do we access this program? David Madsen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.davidmadsen.com
RE: remote assistant
http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp David Madsen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.davidmadsen.com -Original Message- From: Rüdiger Neumann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 12:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: remote assistant Please post the address regards Rüdiger -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: David Madsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: Pentax Discuss List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Datum: Mittwoch, 17. März 2004 20:47 Betreff: remote assistant OK, I have been to the web address where this download is supposed to be, but I don't read Japanese. How do we access this program? David Madsen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.davidmadsen.com
Re: no fate but what we make
I'll qualify this. The APS sensor will be around for a long time. It will probably go up in resolution. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/16/04 06:44PM On Mar 16, 2004, at 6:11 PM, Steve Desjardins wrote: I think the 6MP APS senors will be with us for quite a while. I think they will last about as long as did the 64K computers with the sub 1 megahertz processors.
Re: istD Photo browser gripes
- Original Message - From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] which is why i use the Photoshop CS browser now and never use the Pentax software. Herb, How do you batch convert PEF files with Photoshop CS? Jostein
Re: New firmware 1.11 for *ist D
I swear mine didn't until I reinstalled 1.11 Bill - Original Message - From: Tiger Moses [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 1:59 PM Subject: Re: New firmware 1.11 for *ist D OK, my Green button does work with 1.11, but only when camera is set to M At 01:43 AM 3/18/2004 +1000, you wrote: On 17 Mar 2004 at 8:14, Chris Brogden wrote: Does this mean that M and K lenses are better supported with 1.10 than with 1.11? Do you lose stop-down metering with 1.11? Well mine certainly doesn't any longer, it's supposed to according to the accompanying blurb. Green button does jack ... now. Rob (waiting patiently for v1.12)
Re: D76
Sometimes the simplest, most essential things are forgotten D76 is great for many films. Excellent for Plus-X. D76 1:1 also fine for 3200 films (at iso 800-1000) The only real developer issue I've ever heard of is Rodinal in some water suppies (specifically, Cleveland, OH) doesn't work well. Collin Too much minerals? I read that somewhere (I have it at home) that demineralized water (like the one resulting from inverted osmose process) is NOT good with some developpers, if not all. I would have thought the contrary to be true: too much minerals interact with developpers. Andre
Re: New firmware 1.11 for *ist D
Opps. Keepin' the D1 for a while longer then.g Dave I swear mine didn't until I reinstalled 1.11 Bill - Original Message - From: Tiger Moses [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 1:59 PM Subject: Re: New firmware 1.11 for *ist D OK, my Green button does work with 1.11, but only when camera is set to M
Re: European PDML Meeting 2004
Hi! I also started to collect places some time ago but then I moved and it was lost in chaos -_- This year, for European PDML members, the most attractive place that comes to my mind is Cologne from Tuesday, Septembre 28th to Sunday, Octobre 3rd. That's a good idea. I will be there for sure and hope that Pentax will offer us some attention (as we are the official, international PDML- delegation :-)). I think this would be fun ^_^ But I hope, that we can manage to do a meeting before the Photokina. As there were no more ideas, I would suggest: 08. May 2004 15. May 2004 29. May 2004 So far I think I have time a that dates... I'm back from Japan then and probably have caught up with the sleep ^_^ Hamburg Ruhrgebiet (Essen, Dortmund, Bochum...) Amsterdam I probably could attend when it takes place in the Ruhrgebiet I would prefer Köln ^_^ bye Katrin ** Desertrose Chris' Katrin's X Japan homepage! Please visit it! http://www.xjapan.de * From now on I will try to live for you and for me. I will live with love...with dreams... and forever with tears.. **
Re: New firmware 1.11 for *ist D
Mine's working fine now with my M100/4.0 Macro Bill - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 11:22 AM Subject: Re: New firmware 1.11 for *ist D Opps. Keepin' the D1 for a while longer then.g Dave I swear mine didn't until I reinstalled 1.11 Bill - Original Message - From: Tiger Moses [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 1:59 PM Subject: Re: New firmware 1.11 for *ist D OK, my Green button does work with 1.11, but only when camera is set to M
Re: New firmware 1.11 for *ist D
On 17 Mar 2004 at 15:25, Bill Owens wrote: I swear mine didn't until I reinstalled 1.11 OK mine works, I forgot that it only works in the M position (or did I?), my apologies. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: *ist-D and the wide angle lens dilmena
On 17 Mar 2004 at 18:54, John Forbes wrote: That's true. But manufacturers have to take a bet on what they think the market will want, and plan accordingly. No one in their right mind could possibly have wanted a digital camera with a less than full frame sensor which needed new lenses for wide angle work. I'm glad they didn't see fit to change the film format size each time they introduced a K mount film body. Of course sensor cost contributed to their decision to us an APS sized sensor but why try to make it a permanent fixture. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: smart dslr?
From what I've seen in the marketplace, many companies seem to be extremely reluctant to incorporate Microsoft software into their products if they don't have to. And for good reasons. Once they got hooked, there will be no escape. Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: Digital Imaging, File Formats, and Color
Hi, 2) Could someone explain the Color Management process. Does this process change the information in a file, or does it merely alter it during the data process to change it for a specific use. Ex- if I have a color profile for my scanner, does it alter the raw data coming in, or provide a means of interpreting that data? Similarly, if I changed a color profile for an image in photoshop one day, and then changed it back to the original later, would the result be different from the original? And lastly, is color management based on a standard palette that all profiles look to as a baseline, or does the process happen in the absence of a standard? how? The profile doesn't alter the raw input data. The profile is a set of numbers which describe how far away from a standard your individual scanner is. When you read the data into an editor which understands profiles it uses those numbers to map the input data to the correct corresponding colours within its own colour space, as far as possible. Colour management uses a standard reference target. When you profile a device such as a scanner you get the scanner to read a standard target whose colours correspond with the reference numbers. The profiling software reads the colours your device scanned, compares them to the reference numbers for the target, and stores the differences as the device profile. To get a successful colour workflow you need profiles for each device in the chain - usually scanner, monitor and printer. Editors like Photoshop can read the files into a device-independent colour space which acts like a hub from which it can map between the different devices in the chain. It's quite a big subject. Probably more than can reasonably be covered by email. There's some useful information here: http://www.dl-c.com/Temp/ then click 'Downloads' then 'Miscellaneous files' and scroll down. There's also some good stuff here: http://www.hutchcolor.com/CMS_notes.html -- Cheers, Bob
RE: Another new flash with P-TTL :-)
Max These Metz flashes will work with the MZ-S and the *ist D: mecablitz 70 MZ-5 mecablitz 70 MZ-4 mecablitz 54 MZ-4 mecablitz 54 MZ-3 mecablitz 44 MZ-2 Look at: http://www.metz.de/photo_electronics/ The site has a search facility that gives you the right flash for the camera. The mentioned flashes works with both, but I haven't checked wich functions are supported (Sorry, Pentax!) Jens Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: max mcrae [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 17. marts 2004 08:55 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Another new flash with P-TTL :-) Why Pentax never made a 500 FGZ for the MZs, or*istD is completely beyond me. I mean what the hell were they thinking! The 360 is too weak, can't swivel, can't use a power-pack, and has a hot shoe locking system that's made of Swiss cheese. Mine broke the first time I mounted it. If this new Sigma flash had an auxiliary socket to plug a Quantum Turbo Z into it, I'd buy one. Wedding photographers need those featuresall of 'em! Max
Sydney harbour view guide (was- Lavender Bay)
I just found an interesting page which provides a map and the associated views of our fair city from these points. It looks like a great idea for photogs planning a city visit. Do you know of a similar page in your local? http://www.fbe.unsw.edu.au/exhibits/SydneyHarbour/harbour1.htm If anyone is interested my PAW pano was shot from approximately point 18 and Christians was shot from just above where the 1 label sits on the map, that's why the Opera House was just out of view in his shot. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: OT: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
I could always use the shoulder strap as a neck strap, and then the camera would hang vertically. It's not a matter of the neck strap being unacceptable, as much as inconvenient. I really like the strap on the LX: it's just the right length that it can wrap around my wrist a couple of times, and I can hold the camera in my right hand as I walk, ready to shoot. Because the Leica is smaller, has no grip, and the strap is the wrong length, it's not such a good fit. I like your idea of a wrist strap that screws into the tripod socket, Shel. I must keep my eyes open for one. Sounds like just what I need. cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 19:14:13 -0800 Or, should a neck strap be unacceptable, a nice, small, lightweight wrist strap that screws into the tripod socket is a very fine alternative. graywolf wrote: I do suggest a neck stap. They went out of style for shoulder straps when cameras go big and heavy again, but for your little Leica, or an MX without the winder, one should work fine. I like something about 3/8 wide myself. _ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
RE: smart dslr?
From what I've seen in the marketplace, many companies seem to be extremely reluctant to incorporate Microsoft software into their products if they don't have to. Yes, and it's probably better from a stablity standpoint to have custom-built firmware for each camera. I know I wouldn't buy a camera that ran on MS or any other personal computer-based OS.
Re: smart dslr?
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Erickson) wrote: Since digital cameras are high-volume items, it's probably significantly more profitable to keep this development in-house rather than pay royalties to, say, Microsoft (or even PalmSource). Mobile phones are much higher-volume items, and a large proportion of them run third-party operating systems: Symbian, Palm or Microsoft. Cameras have much simpler communications needs than mobiles, and the user interface requirements are quite fierce. --- John Dallman, [EMAIL PROTECTED], HTML mail is treated as probable spam.
Re: Sydney harbour view guide (was- Lavender Bay)
- Original Message - From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just found an interesting page which provides a map and the associated views of our fair city from these points. It looks like a great idea for photogs planning a city visit. Do you know of a similar page in your local? http://www.fbe.unsw.edu.au/exhibits/SydneyHarbour/harbour1.htm If anyone is interested my PAW pano was shot from approximately point 18 and Christians was shot from just above where the 1 label sits on the map, that's why the Opera House was just out of view in his shot. Ha! Yesterday when I was trying to find out the name of the bay in my shot I stumbled on this same website!!! Yep, my photo was taken from the hotel which was at the top point of the little bay above the number 1. Christian
Re: OT: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
Hi, It's not a matter of the neck strap being unacceptable, as much as inconvenient. I really like the strap on the LX: it's just the right length that it can wrap around my wrist a couple of times, and I can hold the camera in my right hand as I walk, ready to shoot. Because the Leica is smaller, has no grip, and the strap is the wrong length, it's not such a good fit. I've always liked the LX strap, and wish it fit easily on the Leicas now that I no longer have an LX. It works very well on the MX too. I also like the Leica straps, but the problem with them is that they don't swivel, and I don't like having a twisted strap. What I use, and you might like them if you haven't already tried them, are Domke 1 Gripper straps. They are the perfect width - about the same as the LX. They swivel. They're made from very robust materials, although thicker than the LX. You can easily change the length to suit your tastes. I also wrap them round my wrist quite often. -- Cheers, Bob
RE: Enabled at last
Who needs drums anyway! vbg Congrats, Dave. And, most important, have fun! cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: David Madsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Discuss List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Enabled at last Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 19:00:40 -0700 I picked up an *istD with a Tamron 28-75 f2.8 today - the result of selling my drum equipment. I am looking forward to spending the day shooting with it tomorrow. David Madsen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.davidmadsen.com _ STOP MORE SPAM with the MSN Premium and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
RE: good, bad, and ugly
I like (need) no-brainer. vbg Thanks for your thoughts, DJE. cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: good, bad, and ugly Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 00:14:00 -0600 (CST) The Good: I just got a Vivitar 3700 flash (looks about the same size as a 283, and I'm guessing pretty much as powerful) with a Pentax mod, so now I can use ttl flash metering on my LX. It also came with the wide angle diffuser, and off-the-camera coil wire attachment thingie. Bought it from Vic, who hasn't been seen much here recently due to being busy. Probably won't get to use it until the weekend, but I'm looking forward to testing it out... Should work great. This is the combo I used all through college. That flash and the LX made TTL flash a no-brainer. DJE _ STOP MORE SPAM with the MSN Premium and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: New firmware 1.11 for *ist D
1.11 is working for me with manual, the green button, and K lenses. I noticed in Custom Functions that I was asked to choose between P, TV, and AV when using Manual. I don't recall seeing that before. I also checked to make sure that I was still set up for a stop other than A. (I was that didn't change.) I selected AV by the way, and the camera works fine. On Mar 17, 2004, at 10:34 AM, Rob Brigham wrote: Looking on dpreview there are at least 2 people reporting 1.11 still working with non-A lenses. Nobody else is reporting a problem. Perhaps try re-installing the firmware? Sounds a bit strange, and would certainly make me pause for thought if I used old lenses - but presumably you can easily go back? -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 March 2004 15:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New firmware 1.11 for *ist D - Original Message - From: Rob Studdert Subject: Re: New firmware 1.11 for *ist D On 17 Mar 2004 at 8:14, Chris Brogden wrote: Does this mean that M and K lenses are better supported with 1.10 than with 1.11? Do you lose stop-down metering with 1.11? Well mine certainly doesn't any longer, it's supposed to according to the accompanying blurb. Green button does jack ... now. Is it possible to go back to version 1.1, or are you stuck with it now? I haven't made the switch to 1.11, and won't if it costs non A series operation. William Robb
RE: WTB Clamp on hood for Tokina AT-X 28-85
Hi, Mike, My name is frank, and I'm in Toronto, Canada. Since I haven't seen you on the list before, I just thought I'd introduce myself, and welcome you here. I currently have several old Spotmatics, an LX, an MX, and some lenses, along with cameras by other makers. I've only been shooting Pentax for about 5 or 6 years - I wanted a Spotmatic when I was a kid, but couldn't afford one, so I got a screwmount Praktica instead. What Pentaxes do you own? Lenses? I look forward to your posts, and hope you can contribute to our PUG, and PAW. If you don't know what they are, just ask, we'll be happy to get you up to speed. Sorry I can't help you with the hood you're looking for. Does that Tokina fit on a Pentax? Just curious. cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: WTB Clamp on hood for Tokina AT-X 28-85 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 10:21:35 -0500 I need a clamp on-not the spring loaded clip on/bayonet-hood for a Tokina AT-X 28-85 manual focus lens. If anyone in the U.S.A. or Canada (sorry, overseas shipping probably wouldn't be worth it) has one they'd like to sell or donate please write me off list. Thanks, Mike _ MSN Premium includes powerful parental controls and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: Sydney harbour view guide (was- Lavender Bay)
Thanks for the link and the idea Rob! As far as I know, we don't have a similar page for my home town. I think I will promptly court my local town council with the suggestion that I'm the one to, for a decent fee, provide pictures and a general layout idea for such a page. Why don't you all on the list think it over regarding your own local area? There may be an appreciative politician/official, as well as some funds, just sitting there waiting for you to come up with the suggestion. The key word for getting the assignment would be something like revenues from increased tourist attractions. Should we establish yet another PDML feature - a spreading of good ideas for (photography) work ideas/opportunities and call it Work of the Year or WOY for short? (Ok, ok, I realize that all these POWs, WOWs and maybe WOYs run the risk of causing mixed feelings from some list members. But the idea is in fact a good one, and I'll report to the list if something comes out for me of this first Rob WOY idea. :) ) Good luck! Lasse From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 1:24 AM Subject: Sydney harbour view guide (was- Lavender Bay) I just found an interesting page which provides a map and the associated views of our fair city from these points. It looks like a great idea for photogs planning a city visit. Do you know of a similar page in your local? http://www.fbe.unsw.edu.au/exhibits/SydneyHarbour/harbour1.htm If anyone is interested my PAW pano was shot from approximately point 18 and Christians was shot from just above where the 1 label sits on the map, that's why the Opera House was just out of view in his shot. Cheers, Rob Studdert
Re: New firmware 1.11 for *ist D
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Rob Studdert wrote: On 17 Mar 2004 at 15:25, Bill Owens wrote: I swear mine didn't until I reinstalled 1.11 OK mine works, I forgot that it only works in the M position (or did I?), my apologies. It only works in the M position. There is really no meaningful way for it to work in any other position. In Tv the camera can't adjust the aperture, so I don't know what it would do. It isn't true Av because it only meters while stopped down and not continuously. I guess they could have made it work this way, but I don't think that it would be much better: * In Av pressing the green button sets the shutter speed to have the right exposure. Exposure compensation is used to adjust it. This is how M works now. * In M the green button updates the meter reading, but doesn't change the shutter speed. This would be really annoying to use. You would press the green button, see that it was off by a few stops, adjust the shutter or aperture to compensate, then press the green button again. Maybe it would be right, maybe the light changed a bit and now it is half a stop off. Repeat. K/M lenses only work in M mode. It is like shooting with a Spotmatic all over again. I like it. alex
Re: New firmware 1.11 for *ist D
With my M100/4.0, when pressing the green button while in manual, the shutter speed is set for the proper exposure at the f stop you have selected. It's not like shooting with a Spotmatic. Bill - Original Message - From: alex wetmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 6:16 PM Subject: Re: New firmware 1.11 for *ist D On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Rob Studdert wrote: On 17 Mar 2004 at 15:25, Bill Owens wrote: I swear mine didn't until I reinstalled 1.11 OK mine works, I forgot that it only works in the M position (or did I?), my apologies. It only works in the M position. There is really no meaningful way for it to work in any other position. In Tv the camera can't adjust the aperture, so I don't know what it would do. It isn't true Av because it only meters while stopped down and not continuously. I guess they could have made it work this way, but I don't think that it would be much better: * In Av pressing the green button sets the shutter speed to have the right exposure. Exposure compensation is used to adjust it. This is how M works now. * In M the green button updates the meter reading, but doesn't change the shutter speed. This would be really annoying to use. You would press the green button, see that it was off by a few stops, adjust the shutter or aperture to compensate, then press the green button again. Maybe it would be right, maybe the light changed a bit and now it is half a stop off. Repeat. K/M lenses only work in M mode. It is like shooting with a Spotmatic all over again. I like it. alex
Re: *ist-D and the wide angle lens dilmena
On 17 Mar 2004 at 18:54, John Forbes wrote: That's true. But manufacturers have to take a bet on what they think the market will want, and plan accordingly. No one in their right mind could possibly have wanted a digital camera with a less than full frame sensor which needed new lenses for wide angle work. I'm glad they didn't see fit to change the film format size each time they introduced a K mount film body. Of course sensor cost contributed to their decision to us an APS sized sensor but why try to make it a permanent fixture. You could make exactly the same arguments against switching to 35mm instead of sticking with medium format. But that happened anyway. Nobody ever claimed that 35mm was in every way as good as 120 or 220. But it was plenty good enough for most purposes (and, in fact, superior for some aspects of photography), and a whole lot more convenient. There's no real reason that a digital camera has to share the frame size of any particular film-based camera. It's convenient to be able to use those K-mount lenses, but 24x36mm is not an immutable law of photography.
Re: *ist-D and the wide angle lens dilmena
You are very unhappy about the APS sensor size, and I sympathise with your feelings on the subject. However, I think you are letting your emotions blind you to the reality that Pentax is now committed to that size, and there is very little prospect of a change. If they really expected to be producing full frame sensor SLRs in a year or two's time they wouldn't start making APS sized lenses now. You are also trying to convince yourself that APS sensors are not capable of higher pixel density. That is not an argument you can sustain. Sony's new camera has an 8 Mpixel output, but uses a sensor that is vastly smaller than APS. They have managed to extract eight times as many pixels per sq mm from this sensor than from the *ist D's sensor. It is therefore not at all unlikely that we will be seeing 20 or 30 Mpixels from an APS sized sensor in just a few year's time, and this discussion will, in retrospect, sound like that of old timers saying the horseless carriage would never catch on. John On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 08:49:41 +1000, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17 Mar 2004 at 18:54, John Forbes wrote: That's true. But manufacturers have to take a bet on what they think the market will want, and plan accordingly. No one in their right mind could possibly have wanted a digital camera with a less than full frame sensor which needed new lenses for wide angle work. I'm glad they didn't see fit to change the film format size each time they introduced a K mount film body. Of course sensor cost contributed to their decision to us an APS sized sensor but why try to make it a permanent fixture. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
