PESO: landscape

[Juan Buhler]

With apologies to both Adams and Eggleston, a silly picture of
beautiful Wyoming:

http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/444987/

*ist D, FA35/2, quick Photoshop job to match the sky colors.

BTW, as I said before I'm driving across the US. I've been blogging a
bit about it at
http://www.jbuhler.com/blog , if anyone cares what I'm up to.

Cheers,

j


-- 
Juan Buhler
http://www.jbuhler.com
blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog

Minolta is game again, where is heading Pentax!?

[Alin Flaider]

  The Maxxum 7D with its anti-shake technology looks like a remarkable
  come back for Minolta, now that it revives with it its entire lens line:
  http://www.dpreview.com/news/0409/04091504km7d.asp
  If the A/S proves effective (it seems to have some limitations
  depending on the focal length, magnification factor) then it's going
  to be a hard blow to C/N. [And we can be happy that P was once again
  right to wait for the technology to mature. :oT]

  In the meantime, at B&H virtually all Pentax 35mm lenses are
  out-of-stock or back-ordered. I wonder what is P up to (it took too
  long for the story of quality problems or sick Nguyen to stick)? So
  is P going to replace the entire FA and build a new system, digital
  oriented? Will there be any primes left other than limiteds and
  macros? Are we going to count just ten lenses, half of them DA? Is
  there any commitment from P part to the full frame in the
  foreseeable future?

  Servus, Alin

[OT] Minolta's new DSLR

[Sylwester Pietrzyk]

Minolta has at last joined other producers with Minolta Maxxum D7D:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0409/04091504km7d.asp
Seems to be quite nice camera with anti-shake and it has iso100 despite
using (according to rumours) the same sensor as Pentax. On the photos there
are two new lenses: 17-35(or 55?)/2.8 and 28-75/2.8 - clearly targeted at
more serious photographers.

-- 
Best Regards
Sylwek

Re: wide-only-and wide-to-normal zooms (and ultra-long primes)

[John Whittingham]

Past 2 months!?

John


-- Original Message ---
From: "John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 01:46:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: wide-only-and wide-to-normal zooms (and ultra-long primes)

> John Whittingham mused:
> > 
> > > I decided to look into this combination a little further, and at 
> > > least get some idea of the price.  Is it still being sold?  Neither 
> > > B&H nor Adorama show a Sigma 300/f4 in Pentax mount.
> > 
> > Not sure, I have seen new ones listed on eBay though, maybe new old stock.
> > 
> > John
> 
> Not recently, apparently :-(
--- End of Original Message ---

Re: PESO: landscape

[Bob W]

Hi,

Wednesday, September 15, 2004, 8:16:16 AM, Juan wrote:

> With apologies to both Adams and Eggleston, a silly picture of
> beautiful Wyoming:

> http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/444987/

Very good! But I think you should be apologising to Shel, not those
wannabes!

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob

Re: landscape

[Ryan Lee]

The shot really works for me Juan. I also quite like the idea to colour
match the paint and the sky. Pity about the obscured 's' though.. It's a bit
distracting. Travel blogs are often good reads. I'll check it out soon.

Cheers,
Ryan

- Original Message - 
From: "Juan Buhler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 5:16 PM
Subject: PESO: landscape


> With apologies to both Adams and Eggleston, a silly picture of
> beautiful Wyoming:
>
> http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/444987/
>
> *ist D, FA35/2, quick Photoshop job to match the sky colors.
>
> BTW, as I said before I'm driving across the US. I've been blogging a
> bit about it at
> http://www.jbuhler.com/blog , if anyone cares what I'm up to.
>
> Cheers,
>
> j
>
>
> -- 
> Juan Buhler
> http://www.jbuhler.com
> blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog
>
>

Re: Minolta is game again, where is heading Pentax!?

[Ryan Lee]

I must say I really like the Maxxum 7D. Great manual inspired layout, decent
specs, large LCD, not to mention A/S. Konica Minolta seems to know exactly
what it's up to. Would have been interesting to see what would have happened
if it was Minolta Pentax.. or  Pentax Minolta. Or how wonderful it would be
if Pentax was the next one up in that direction (someone tell me I'm not
dreaming!)

Very impressed.

Ryan


- Original Message - 
From: "Alin Flaider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 5:20 PM
Subject: Minolta is game again, where is heading Pentax!?


>
>   The Maxxum 7D with its anti-shake technology looks like a remarkable
>   come back for Minolta, now that it revives with it its entire lens line:
>   http://www.dpreview.com/news/0409/04091504km7d.asp
>   If the A/S proves effective (it seems to have some limitations
>   depending on the focal length, magnification factor) then it's going
>   to be a hard blow to C/N. [And we can be happy that P was once again
>   right to wait for the technology to mature. :oT]
>
>   In the meantime, at B&H virtually all Pentax 35mm lenses are
>   out-of-stock or back-ordered. I wonder what is P up to (it took too
>   long for the story of quality problems or sick Nguyen to stick)? So
>   is P going to replace the entire FA and build a new system, digital
>   oriented? Will there be any primes left other than limiteds and
>   macros? Are we going to count just ten lenses, half of them DA? Is
>   there any commitment from P part to the full frame in the
>   foreseeable future?
>
>   Servus, Alin
>
>

Re: *istDs and SD cards

[Alan Chan]

I used to have a 33WR which uses SD, and now A80 with CF. I must say, I much 
prefer SD because it is a lot easier to switch than CF, especially in a 
hurry. I think both are good sized though.

Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
I would tend to agree with that. The human interface is more important than 
engineering types tend to think. When something is too small it becomes 
more of a pain than an asset.
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Re: *istDs and SD cards

[Alan Chan]

I think the Japanese first shown us with a SONY Walkman 20+ years ago. They 
were small, and they were good.

Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
Bigger is better has fallen from its pedestal, it's now smaller is 
superior,
stuff the ergonomics.
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Re: Hockey World Cup

[Keith Whaley]

Oh no! Frank will be impossible!   
Congrats to our northern neighbors!
keith
Pat White wrote:
CANADA WINS!!!
Pat White

Re: photo a day

[mike wilson]

Hi,
Bob W wrote:
Jim Brandenburg, a National Geographic photographer, did a 90-day
one-picture-a-day exercise for NG, which has since been published as a
book. His website is here:
http://www.jimbrandenburg.com/flash/index_flash.html
It is a classic case of Flash overkill. Click 'Gallery', then 'Chased
by the light'.
That's the rascal.  I thought he'd done it for a year but it was a pair 
of sessions of about 90 days each.  The other one is "Looking for the 
Summer".  Interesting exercise for a nature photographer living in the 
backwoods.  Wonder if it would be "easier" for an urban photographer?

mike

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

[David Mann]

On Sep 15, 2004, at 5:22 AM, Graywolf wrote:
Well, they left off the PC (flash) connector, but most of you guys 
today will not miss that.
It's pretty easy to buy a hotshoe PC connector.
Cheers,
- Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/

RE: [OT] Minolta's new DSLR

[Alan Chan]

I think this product is 1 year late (especially when it will be expensive 
because of "AS") consider Canon 20D is now 8MP, and Nikon will have a D100 
update by tomorrow.

Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
Minolta has at last joined other producers with Minolta Maxxum D7D:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0409/04091504km7d.asp
Seems to be quite nice camera with anti-shake and it has iso100 despite
using (according to rumours) the same sensor as Pentax. On the photos there
are two new lenses: 17-35(or 55?)/2.8 and 28-75/2.8 - clearly targeted at
more serious photographers.
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Re: [OT] Minolta's new DSLR

[Rob Studdert]

On 15 Sep 2004 at 9:22, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:

> Minolta has at last joined other producers with Minolta Maxxum D7D:
> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0409/04091504km7d.asp
> Seems to be quite nice camera with anti-shake and it has iso100 despite
> using (according to rumours) the same sensor as Pentax. On the photos there are
> two new lenses: 17-35(or 55?)/2.8 and 28-75/2.8 - clearly targeted at more
> serious photographers.

Hmm, it's looking good for Minolta users.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

[David Mann]

On Sep 15, 2004, at 7:32 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
No continuous autofocus
I did see reference to this somewhere in the preview... I think you 
have to set "action" mode to get it.  Pity it's not a third position on 
the selector switch.

Narrower flash angle coverage
Check those numbers again.  The new camera was specified as "28mm 
equivalent", the older model as "18mm".  18 x 1.6 = about 29mm so it's 
about the same.

Cheers,
- Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

[Martin Trautmann]

On 2004-09-14 12:32, Mark Roberts wrote:
> Martin Trautmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On 2004-09-14 14:45, Nenad Djurdjevic wrote:
> >> I just read the *istDs review on dpreview.  What a great camera!  Yes, it is
> >> a cut-down *istD
> >
> >Hm - where and how is it cut-down?
> 
> No mirror prefire/lock-up

is specified in the German docu

> No continuous autofocus

:-(

> No hyper-program mode

What's that?

> Only one manual white-balance pre-set

Since I'm not used to DP yet, I suppose I would not miss it.
Looks like a professional feature to me

> Non-adjustable exposure program lines

who did use those?

> Poorer meter sensitivity (EV1 rather than EV0)

:-(

> No meter bar graph in viewfinder

I'll need a look through the viewfinder

Is it this one on the right, from (+) to (-)?
,
page 5

> Narrower flash angle coverage

That's a little strange - same strength (LZ 15.6 @ 200 ISO vs. LZ 11 @ 100
ISO), but weaker sind narrower? Or maybe it's just true, while the other one
had shading ;-)

> *Probably* less K/M lens compatibility

Hm - I doubt so. I hope Pentax learned the story. But that's one of the most
interesting topics. 

You did not mention TIFF format - I guess another pro' feature.

> Where the ist-Ds is better:
> Bigger, faster buffer

how much bigger?

Regards
Martin

Re: *ist-DS on sale 999euros with DA18 55

[Frits Wüthrich]

interesting, the pentax software is version 2, anyone aware this is much improved from 
the version 1 we have?
Would this available to us as well?

On Wednesday 15 September 2004 03:29, Ryan Lee wrote:
FJW> Courtesy of a dpreview poster:
FJW> http://foto-mundus.de/shop/product_info.php?products_id=1914
FJW> 
FJW> Pretty competitive!
FJW> 
FJW> Cheers,
FJW> Ryan
FJW> 
FJW> 
FJW> 
FJW> 

-- 
Frits Wüthrich

Re: [OT] Minolta's new DSLR

[Michel Carrère-Gée]

Sylwester Pietrzyk a écrit :
Minolta has at last joined other producers with Minolta Maxxum D7D:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0409/04091504km7d.asp
Seems to be quite nice camera with anti-shake and it has iso100 despite
using (according to rumours) the same sensor as Pentax. 

But 100 Iso ?

Re: When I was a pro ....

[David Mann]

On Sep 15, 2004, at 5:46 AM, CRB wrote:
How about you?  What's your story?
Mine is only just beginning.
I know better than to become purely a professional photographer but I 
do intend it to be a significant part of my moneymaking activities.

Cheers,
- Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/

Re: told y'all so

[David Mann]

On Sep 15, 2004, at 8:54 AM, Graywolf wrote:
Pentax is in the process of setting up their own FAB to produce 
sensors to their own specifications.
I'm having trouble believing this.  A fab is hideously expensive to set 
up.  The cost typically involves about 9 zeros... perhaps 8 for a small 
volume one.

Cheers,
- Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

[Martin Trautmann]

On 2004-09-14 12:32, Mark Roberts wrote:
> Martin Trautmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >On 2004-09-14 14:45, Nenad Djurdjevic wrote:
> >> I just read the *istDs review on dpreview.  What a great camera!  Yes,
> >> it is a cut-down *istD
> >
> >Hm - where and how is it cut-down?


Yet another question: the new model was reduce in weight. Does it still use
an inner metal frame or ist it 'plastics only'?

Regards
Martin

Re: [OT] Minolta's new DSLR

[Keith Whaley]

Yes, explain that comment please.
What is the significance of  "...despite using the same sensor as Pentax," 
connected to "iso100?"

keith whaley
Michel Carrère-Gée wrote:
Sylwester Pietrzyk a écrit :
Minolta has at last joined other producers with Minolta Maxxum D7D:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0409/04091504km7d.asp
Seems to be quite nice camera with anti-shake and it has iso100 despite
using (according to rumours) the same sensor as Pentax.
But 100 Iso ?

Re: [OT] Minolta's new DSLR

[Sylwester Pietrzyk]

Keith Whaley wrote on 15.09.04 12:11:

> Yes, explain that comment please.
> What is the significance of  "...despite using the same sensor as Pentax,"
> connected to "iso100?"
Pentax has minimal iso 200 and it seems that minimal iso value is somewhat
directly connected with sensor type. D100 which uses for sure the same
sensor as *istD has minimal available iso value 200 too. So it is possible,
that Minolta uses different CCD than *istD and D100, but first infos were
that they use the same type.

-- 
Best Regards
Sylwek

Re: wide-only-and wide-to-normal zooms (and ultra-long primes)

[Herb Chong]

i haven't seen it listed by B&H in the 3 years or so that i have been paying 
attention to Sigma lenses. 300/2.8 is all they have had listed.

Herb...
- Original Message - 
From: "John Whittingham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 3:21 AM
Subject: Re: wide-only-and wide-to-normal zooms (and ultra-long primes)


Past 2 months!?

PAW: Fade to Balck

[dao_]

Hello,
 
 This is the try with my Cockin Diffuser II. It is usually unexpected filter, but 
sometimes it is fine.

http://www.photographic.com.ua/gallery/photo.aspx?id=993&ref=author
  

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Best regards,
 dao  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Hockey World Cup

[Mark Roberts]

Pat White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>CANADA WINS!!!

Where's Knarf? I thought he'd be the first to announce this!

SuperA problem

[Derby Chang]

I've had a problem with a lovely SuperA ever since I bought it second 
hand ages ago. Works a treat for most of a roll, but when it gets to 
about frame 24 or so, the wind-on starts getting stiffer and stiffer. 
With no film in the camera, there is no resistance at all.

I've guessed what the problem isthe "magic fingers" look a bit bowed 
outwards. When there is enough film wound on, it probably starts 
crushing against the chamber of the camera. I can't see anything stuck 
inside the magic fingers.

Does anyone have some instructions on how to disassemble a SuperA. I 
don't use this body much, so I'd like to have a go at dissection.

thanks in advance
D
--
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~derbyc

Re: Super Program problem

[Rfsindg]

I haven't got instructions for dis-assembly, but i'd try taking the rewind shaft out 
and cleaning it.  It's a simple thing to do as the top crank just screws off the 
shaft... just don't close the camera up.

I've had this problem hang up my winder and motor drive on the Super Program.  They 
get extra resistance and think they have reached the end of the roll.

Regards,  Bob S.

Derby Chang asked:
>>I've had a problem with a lovely SuperA ever since I bought it second hand ages ago. 
>>Works a treat for most of a roll, but when it gets to about frame 24 or so, the 
>>wind-on starts getting stiffer and stiffer. With no film in the camera, there is no 
>>resistance at all.

I've guessed what the problem isthe "magic fingers" look a bit bowed outwards. 
When there is enough film wound on, it probably starts crushing against the chamber of 
the camera. I can't see anything stuck inside the magic fingers.

Does anyone have some instructions on how to disassemble a SuperA. I don't use this 
body much, so I'd like to have a go at dissection.


thanks in advance
D

Re: [OT] Minolta's new DSLR

[Keith Whaley]

Okay, that's clear now.
What I'm amazed at is the top value of 3200!
I expect that testing will determine whether that's really useful, but it 
will be interesting to see if they have accomplished it without totally 
unacceptable noise levels!

thanks,  keith
Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:
Keith Whaley wrote on 15.09.04 12:11:

Yes, explain that comment please.
What is the significance of  "...despite using the same sensor as Pentax,"
connected to "iso100?"
Pentax has minimal iso 200 and it seems that minimal iso value is somewhat
directly connected with sensor type. D100 which uses for sure the same
sensor as *istD has minimal available iso value 200 too. So it is possible,
that Minolta uses different CCD than *istD and D100, but first infos were
that they use the same type.

Re: Another Limited lens

[Arnold Stark]

I really wonder whether it is the same or a very similar optical formula 
as in the M40/f2.8. If so, the image circle should be large enough to 
cover the full frame. No need or even no way to scale it down.

However, the lack of an aperture ring makes the DA40/f2.8 really 
"limited" in its abilities and absolutely unattractive for me. I'll 
stick to the original M40/f2.8 and to the FA43/f1.9.

Arnold
Mark Roberts schrieb:
They were thinking that they could sell a *tiny" lens with excellent optical quality to go with their incredibly compact new DSLR... while investing virtually no R&D money into the project (assuming they're re-using the old M 40/2.8 optical formula and just scaling it down to a smaller image circle). They've obviously been paying attention to the selling prices of theold M40/2.8 on eBay.
 

Re: 40mm f/2.8 Limited DA: More

[frank theriault]

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:49:30 -0700, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Posted with permission.
> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/40limitedDA-2.jpg
> 
>  Looks to my eye like real Limited lens construction.
> 

How can you tell?

-frank


-- 
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Re: istDs - what a great camera!

[Martin Trautmann]

On 2004-09-15 15:35, Alin Flaider wrote:
> Martin wrote:
> MT> Yet another question: the new model was reduced in weight. Does it still use
> MT> an inner metal frame or ist it 'plastics only'?
> 
>   The chassis depicted here appears quite sturdy:
>   http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2004/0914/pentax107.jpg

But that's the image of the *ist D - isn't it?
http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2004/0914/pentax1.htm

I asked for the *ist Ds.

Regards
Martin

RE: *istDs and SD cards

[Andy Chang]

It's been a while since I post anything...: P
I'm very excited about istDS. It has fallen exactly on my requirement!
Since the istD, I have been waiting to switch to DSLR for sometime. 
But I decided to keep shooting with my dear LX and wait.
I'm waiting for the MZ-D equivalent and the 300D equivalent...
And so far, Pentax has given me the 300D equivalent (and better) to look
forward to!
It is small (I love Pentax for its portability!) and it's packed with
all the functions I need!
SD or CF, I don't care I have both cards anyway... not a problem
here.
If the MZ-D is out with CF, I'll buy it too!
Full frame sensor is the ultimate dream for me. 
Now, I'm happy with what istDS will bring to me and the price is good!
Can't wait to get my hand on one of it when it's out!

Cheers
Andy

Re: All is well.

[Antonio]

Everything fine here too. Blue skies, 35ºC. Not a cloud in sight. Bliss..

A.


BOn 15/9/04 2:51 pm, "Cesar Matamoros II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Just to keep those interested informed,  everything should be fine here.
> 
> It looks like Ivan will hit land well west of me.  Of course it still puts
> us on the worst side of the storm.  But the more westerly the better for me.
> It is still a Category 4 hoping it lessens to a 3 by tomorrow morning as it
> hits land.
> 
> The winds should not be too bad here.  I have ridden out a few tropical
> storms that had winds up to 80 mph.  The surge is what I am looking at since
> I am on a bayou.
> 
> I am in an evacuation area so I am headed later this morning to my parents
> house just 2.5 miles down the road.  I would ride it out in my place, but it
> is better to appease the folks :-)
> 
> So, I may not have a presence on the list for a little bit; not that I have
> had much of one lately.  I am still in arrears a couple of days - maybe I
> will have time to answer some of them while I ride out the storm.
> 
> I was hoping for some photo opportunities from my place.  I am not sure how
> it will be at the parents.
> 
> I will be taking the LXen, my Medium Format, and a smattering of my K-mount
> gear.  The screwmount, who have survived all these years, will ride it out
> on their own.  Hmmm, maybe I should have sent some of them to Canada :-)
> 
> Keeping dry,
> 
> César
> Panama City, Florida
> 

RE: istDs - what a great camera!

[Nicolas Colarusso]

Looks like the *ist Ds to me

-Original Message-
From: Martin Trautmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: September 15, 2004 10:10
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: istDs - what a great camera!

On 2004-09-15 15:35, Alin Flaider wrote:
> Martin wrote:
> MT> Yet another question: the new model was reduced in weight. Does it
still use
> MT> an inner metal frame or ist it 'plastics only'?
> 
>   The chassis depicted here appears quite sturdy:
>   http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2004/0914/pentax107.jpg

But that's the image of the *ist D - isn't it?
http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2004/0914/pentax1.htm

I asked for the *ist Ds.

Regards
Martin

Re: Minolta is game again, where is heading Pentax!?

[Caveman]

LOL. The Contax approach was very similar: AF for free with all your old 
MF lenses. As we know it didn't fly.
Regarding the lens lineup, about everyone is doing better than P, with 
their esoteric mix of collector/fondler items and outdated pieces.

Alin Flaider wrote:
  The coup is worth the risk: IS for free will force C/N rethink their
  lens policy. Minolta might be back in the pack and even lead it.

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

[Keith Whaley]

See below:
Martin Trautmann wrote:
On 2004-09-15 15:35, Alin Flaider wrote:
Martin wrote:
MT> Yet another question: the new model was reduced in weight. Does it still use
MT> an inner metal frame or ist it 'plastics only'?

 The chassis depicted here appears quite sturdy:
 http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2004/0914/pentax107.jpg

But that's the image of the *ist D - isn't it?
http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2004/0914/pentax1.htm
On the site you reference above, that chassis is shown as one of a set of 6 
images, one of which shows the front view of the *istDS.
The two chassis images (Alin's above and your URL below) look identical to me.

I do question whether that particular chassis might not be an engineering 
mockup, however.
Seems to me they wouldn't build a chassis with so many screws and posts and 
separate stampings for a large production model as the DS is supposed to be.
In other words, I'm not convinced that's a production chassis.

keith whaley
I asked for the *ist Ds.
Regards
Martin

RE: istDs - what a great camera!

[Shel Belinkoff]

Just took another look at the info posted on DPreview and noticed that the
expected price if the istDS here in the US is $700.00. More astute
observers here probably picked up on that a few days ago.  That's a GREAT
price, no more than some of the  high-end P&S cameras.  Makes the istDS
look all the better, and, for my money, at that price the choice of an SD
card takes on even less significance.  And, if that's really the price at
the opening bell, it shouldn't be long before it comes down a few $$. 
Another hearty pat on the back for Pentax.  It may not be that long before
the little Sony here goes into retirement  nah, I like it too much.

Shel

Re: Hockey World Cup

[brooksdj]

> On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 07:12:11 -0700, Mark 
Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > Where's Knarf? I thought he'd be the first to announce this!
> 
> I was watching the game, then I spent the next coupla hours watching
> endless interviews, press conferences (gotta love cable), analyses,
> etc, etc.
> I say congratulations to them for a great tournament.
> 
> But, I'm glad Canada won!  
> 
> cheers,
> frank
And 3 thumbs down for the few idiots who trashed taxi's and had to be teargased.
Bad ending to an otherwize great series. Finns and Finish players should be proud of 
the
sportmanship 
and talented team.

Dave

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

[Alin Flaider]

  Martin
  
  That page states clearly *ist Ds.
  Also, you can find the *ist D (and not Ds) chassis here (3rd page):
  
http://www.pentax.de/mediapool/attachments/photo/100/80106/80125/Slim-Jim-istD-deu.pdf

  As you can see it's quite a bit of difference; D looks more armored
  than Ds, yet the last is not exactly soft.
  
  Servus,  Alin

Martin wrote:

MT> But that's the image of the *ist D - isn't it?
MT> http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2004/0914/pentax1.htm

MT> I asked for the *ist Ds.

Re: DA 18-55?

[Keith Whaley]

Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004, Ryan Lee wrote:

This one shows 18-55:
http://www.pentax.ch/typo3temp/df7d80564c.jpg
This one (have to squint a bit) says 18-45
http://foto-mundus.de/shop/product_info.php?products_id=1914

No, it says 16-45. If you don't believe me, it also says 67mm; the
18-55 is speced at 52mm.
True. I just expanded that image, and compared the 6 in the 16 vs. the 5 in 
45, and it's definitely a 16-45.

keith whaley
Kostas

RE: Re[2]: Minolta is game again, where is heading Pentax!?

[Dave]

I seriously believe although Minolta has a great product it would appear
coming out, they might be in serious trouble since the sensor is still only
6.1 MP.  Canon's timing of the EOS20D with over 8 MP may well steal their
thunder.  Believe it or not on the Minolta lists, many people of which I am
one of, have concerns about the IS technology being a problem rather then a
good thing.  The questions revolve around generated heat, battery
consumption, overall reliability with even extra concerns over sensor
cleaning.  Many folks would like to see the same camera without the IS
offered at a lower cost.  I would definitely be more tempted to bite then.

> -Original Message-
> From: Alin Flaider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 10:04 AM
> To: Caveman
> Subject: Re[2]: Minolta is game again, where is heading Pentax!?
>
>
>
>   The coup is worth the risk: IS for free will force C/N rethink their
>   lens policy. Minolta might be back in the pack and even lead it.
>   And btw, unlike Pentax, they continued delivering new pro-grade
>   lenses, even USM, when there was no DSLR at the horizon.
>
>   Servus,  Alin
>
> Valentin wrote:
>
> C> Looks to me more like the Contax approach to autofocus. Since they were
> C> not willing/able to redo their lens line, they put the AF gear at the
> C> film plane.
>
>
>

Re: photo a day

[Caveman]

After the gigabytes I downloaded I expected something really good. It's 
all soft and rich in jpeg artifacts.

Did that guy actually check his website after it was done ?
Bob W wrote:
His website is here:
http://www.jimbrandenburg.com/flash/index_flash.html

RE: istDs - what a great camera!

[Shel Belinkoff]

Hmmm  just thinking out loud here ... that M24~35 zoom in the equipment
drawer should make a pretty nice "normal" lens for the istDS.

Shel

RE: Another Limited lens

[Andy Chang]

Translated by Dictionary.com
[quote]
Is referred is exhibited to Photokina "smc PENTAX-DA 40mm F2.8 Limited"
with the digital one-eyed private lens for the first time the high-class
lens which is identified "Limited". Sale time, both price undecided.
"Limited" is entitled in the especially high characteristic. The
high-class lens at the time of the same company interchangeable lens
lining up. The detailed specifications are not open, but focal length
open F value being F2.8 with 40mm, in addition, "DA" it is found from
name that it has the image circle which from the fact that it is
attached is limited to APS-C size. Appearance total length is short
extremely, we have become the generally known "pancake lens", as for
paint black. Also accent of the green which is proof of the DA lens
enters. If it combines with the small-sized lightweight *ist D series,
it is done that it becomes the small-sized digital single-lens reflex
camera which it is easy to carry.
[unquote]
-Original Message-
From: Alan Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 11:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Another Limited lens

smc PENTAX-DA 40mm F2.8 Limited

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2004/0914/pentax1.htm

Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

[Martin Trautmann]

On 2004-09-15 17:44, Alin Flaider wrote:
> 
>   Martin
>   
>   That page states clearly *ist Ds.

True - but the text below the images read as *ist D only.

Thus I wanted to make sure that it's actually the *ist Ds

>   Also, you can find the *ist D (and not Ds) chassis here (3rd page):
>   
> http://www.pentax.de/mediapool/attachments/photo/100/80106/80125/Slim-Jim-istD-deu.pdf

Yes, this should be the same image as
http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2003/0808/pentax10.jpg

Comparing this side by side to 
http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2004/0914/pentax107.gif
it's easy to spot the difference - and it looks rather probable to me now
that it got metal inside, too.

This does not necessarily mean that the camera is very strong. But it does
increase the trust level ;-)

Regards
Martin

RE: *istDs and SD cards

[Shel Belinkoff]

My feelings are quite similar ... this could be exactly what I've been
looking/waiting for.

Shel 

> From: Andy Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> It's been a while since I post anything...: P
> I'm very excited about istDS. It has fallen exactly on my requirement!

[...]

> It is small (I love Pentax for its portability!) and it's packed with
> all the functions I need!
> SD or CF, I don't care

Re[2]: Minolta is game again, where is heading Pentax!?

[Alin Flaider]

  Time will tell. I hear A1 is doing quite well in A/S. Personally I'm
  not a big fan of image stabilization - I always carry a tripod. But
  would like to see another player in the DSLR arena; C/N are not
  exactly convincing if I am to switch, a bit of competition will do
  good to all of us.
 
  Servus,  Alin

Valentin wrote:
C> LOL. The Contax approach was very similar: AF for free with all your old
C> MF lenses. As we know it didn't fly.
C> Regarding the lens lineup, about everyone is doing better than P, with
C> their esoteric mix of collector/fondler items and outdated pieces.

Re: PESO: landscape

[Gonz]

Love it.
rg
Juan Buhler wrote:
With apologies to both Adams and Eggleston, a silly picture of
beautiful Wyoming:
http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/444987/
*ist D, FA35/2, quick Photoshop job to match the sky colors.
BTW, as I said before I'm driving across the US. I've been blogging a
bit about it at
http://www.jbuhler.com/blog , if anyone cares what I'm up to.
Cheers,
j

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

[frank theriault]

On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 07:43:32 -0700, Shel Belinkoff
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just took another look at the info posted on DPreview and noticed that the
> expected price if the istDS here in the US is $700.00. More astute
> observers here probably picked up on that a few days ago.  That's a GREAT
> price, no more than some of the  high-end P&S cameras.  Makes the istDS
> look all the better, and, for my money, at that price the choice of an SD
> card takes on even less significance.  And, if that's really the price at
> the opening bell, it shouldn't be long before it comes down a few $$.
> Another hearty pat on the back for Pentax.  It may not be that long before
> the little Sony here goes into retirement  nah, I like it too much.

Geez.  I may go digital yet.  Of course, since I have no digital
camera as yet, I don't give a hoot what card it has.

For that price, if I can use my current lenses (or maybe even if I
can't), it's hard to go wrong.

cheers,
frank
-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: Re[2]: Minolta is game again, where is heading Pentax!?

[frank theriault]

On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 10:50:17 -0400, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I seriously believe although Minolta has a great product it would appear
> coming out, they might be in serious trouble since the sensor is still only
> 6.1 MP.  Canon's timing of the EOS20D with over 8 MP may well steal their
> thunder.  Believe it or not on the Minolta lists, many people of which I am
> one of, have concerns about the IS technology being a problem rather then a
> good thing.  The questions revolve around generated heat, battery
> consumption, overall reliability with even extra concerns over sensor
> cleaning.  Many folks would like to see the same camera without the IS
> offered at a lower cost.  I would definitely be more tempted to bite then.

Minoltans sound just like Pentaxians.

After much wailing and gnashing of teeth about not having a particular
product, their company not only comes out with the product, but it
appears to be a groundbreaking, absolute winner.

The reaction?  They all bitch about it.

Plus ca change...



cheers,
frank

-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

[Michel Carrère-Gée]

Martin Trautmann a écrit :
On 2004-09-15 15:35, Alin Flaider wrote:
 

Martin wrote:
MT> Yet another question: the new model was reduced in weight. Does it still use
MT> an inner metal frame or ist it 'plastics only'?
 The chassis depicted here appears quite sturdy:
 http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2004/0914/pentax107.jpg
   

But that's the image of the *ist D - isn't it?
http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2004/0914/pentax1.htm
I asked for the *ist Ds.
 

No, the *ist D is black , no chrome.

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

[Michel Carrère-Gée]

Martin Trautmann a écrit :
On 2004-09-15 15:35, Alin Flaider wrote:
 

Martin wrote:
MT> Yet another question: the new model was reduced in weight. Does it still use
MT> an inner metal frame or ist it 'plastics only'?
 The chassis depicted here appears quite sturdy:
 http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2004/0914/pentax107.jpg
   

But that's the image of the *ist D - isn't it?
http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2004/0914/pentax1.htm
 

That is the *ist D
http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2003/0808/pentax10.gif

Re: Re[2]: Minolta is game again, where is heading Pentax!?

[pnstenquist]

A tripod isn't always the answer. For example, i was thinking how nice it would be to 
have image stabilization when I was shooting the wake boarders from a boat. It's also 
great for something like birding where you have a much better chance of "getting the 
shot" if you can handhold. However, I agree that the Minolta solution might be more 
complex and power draining than it's worth.
Paul


> 
>   Time will tell. I hear A1 is doing quite well in A/S. Personally I'm
>   not a big fan of image stabilization - I always carry a tripod. But
>   would like to see another player in the DSLR arena; C/N are not
>   exactly convincing if I am to switch, a bit of competition will do
>   good to all of us.
>  
>   Servus,  Alin
> 
> Valentin wrote:
> C> LOL. The Contax approach was very similar: AF for free with all your old
> C> MF lenses. As we know it didn't fly.
> C> Regarding the lens lineup, about everyone is doing better than P, with
> C> their esoteric mix of collector/fondler items and outdated pieces.
> 
> 

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

[Martin Trautmann]

On 2004-09-15 17:15, Michel Carrère-Gée wrote:
> Martin Trautmann a écrit :
> >On 2004-09-15 15:35, Alin Flaider wrote:
> > 
> >But that's the image of the *ist D - isn't it?

> No, the *ist D is black , no chrome.

Oh, I don't mind that much whether the metal behind the plastic is black or
chrome ;-)

... although I'd prefer black.

But you're right: the difference is visible e.g. on the outer neck strap
eyelet (however this 'Gurtöse' is named in English)

Regards
Martin

Re: *istDs and SD cards

[frank theriault]

On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 01:58:53 +1000, Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



> I've got the money just nothing worthy to spend it on.

Excellent!!  I have many worthy purchases, but no money to spend on them.  



-frank



-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: Minolta is game again, where is heading Pentax!?

[Caveman]

There's a simple explanation to that. What they actually want is a 20D, 
but for various reasons they don't get one, so they bitch about their 
current manufacturer for not making a similar camera.

;-) ;-) ;-)
frank theriault wrote:
Minoltans sound just like Pentaxians.
After much wailing and gnashing of teeth about not having a particular
product, their company not only comes out with the product, but it
appears to be a groundbreaking, absolute winner.
The reaction?  They all bitch about it.
Plus ca change...

cheers,
frank

Re: Hockey World Cup

[Peter J. Alling]

Will be?
Keith Whaley wrote:
Oh no! Frank will be impossible!   
Congrats to our northern neighbors!
keith
Pat White wrote:
CANADA WINS!!!
Pat White



--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke

Re: All is well.

[Graywolf]

Good luck to you, Cesar. Hopefully the worry will have been worse than 
the storm.

--
Cesar Matamoros II wrote:
Just to keep those interested informed,  everything should be fine here.
It looks like Ivan will hit land well west of me.  Of course it still puts
us on the worst side of the storm.  But the more westerly the better for me.
It is still a Category 4 hoping it lessens to a 3 by tomorrow morning as it
hits land.
The winds should not be too bad here.  I have ridden out a few tropical
storms that had winds up to 80 mph.  The surge is what I am looking at since
I am on a bayou.
I am in an evacuation area so I am headed later this morning to my parents
house just 2.5 miles down the road.  I would ride it out in my place, but it
is better to appease the folks :-)
So, I may not have a presence on the list for a little bit; not that I have
had much of one lately.  I am still in arrears a couple of days - maybe I
will have time to answer some of them while I ride out the storm.
I was hoping for some photo opportunities from my place.  I am not sure how
it will be at the parents.
I will be taking the LXen, my Medium Format, and a smattering of my K-mount
gear.  The screwmount, who have survived all these years, will ride it out
on their own.  Hmmm, maybe I should have sent some of them to Canada :-)
Keeping dry,
César
Panama City, Florida

--
graywolf
http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

[Peter J. Alling]

From the description it still has the metal frame, maybe it's been 
simplified.

Martin Trautmann wrote:
On 2004-09-14 12:32, Mark Roberts wrote:
 

Martin Trautmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
   

On 2004-09-14 14:45, Nenad Djurdjevic wrote:
 

I just read the *istDs review on dpreview.  What a great camera!  Yes,
it is a cut-down *istD
   

Hm - where and how is it cut-down?
 


Yet another question: the new model was reduce in weight. Does it still use
an inner metal frame or ist it 'plastics only'?
Regards
Martin
 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke

Re: DA 18-55?

[Graywolf]

Are you sure that is not a 16-45?
--
Ryan Lee wrote:

This one (have to squint a bit) says 18-45
http://foto-mundus.de/shop/product_info.php?products_id=1914
--
graywolf
http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html

Focusing distance with istD

[Shel Belinkoff]

Would earlier K-mount lenses (K, M, A, FA) focus any closer when used on an
istD(S) than when used on film camera bodies?

Shel 

Re: Another Limited lens

[Peter J. Alling]

Well it is the edge and corners where the sharpness is most questionable...
keller.schaefer wrote:
I have only used the M 2.8/40 for some *ist D shots, but I have not found
anything wrong with the image quality. In my eyes, what it lacks compared to a
1.4/50 does not really show up on *ist D images.
Otherwise, I am equally disappointed that so far Pentax have not shown a DA
1.7/28 or the like.
Sven

Zitat von Arnold Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
 

I really wonder whether it is the same or a very similar optical formula
as in the M40/f2.8. If so, the image circle should be large enough to
cover the full frame. No need or even no way to scale it down.
However, the lack of an aperture ring makes the DA40/f2.8 really
"limited" in its abilities and absolutely unattractive for me. I'll
stick to the original M40/f2.8 and to the FA43/f1.9.
Arnold
Mark Roberts schrieb:
   

They were thinking that they could sell a *tiny" lens with excellent optical
 

quality to go with their incredibly compact new DSLR... while investing
virtually no R&D money into the project (assuming they're re-using the old M
40/2.8 optical formula and just scaling it down to a smaller image circle).
They've obviously been paying attention to the selling prices of theold
M40/2.8 on eBay.
   

 

   



 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

[Graywolf]

They probably are identical. Pentax decides not to cheapen the new 
camera where it matters and folk complain. Oh well.

--
Keith Whaley wrote:
See below:
Martin Trautmann wrote:
On 2004-09-15 15:35, Alin Flaider wrote:
Martin wrote:
MT> Yet another question: the new model was reduced in weight. Does 
it still use
MT> an inner metal frame or ist it 'plastics only'?

 The chassis depicted here appears quite sturdy:
 http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2004/0914/pentax107.jpg

But that's the image of the *ist D - isn't it?
http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2004/0914/pentax1.htm

On the site you reference above, that chassis is shown as one of a set 
of 6 images, one of which shows the front view of the *istDS.
The two chassis images (Alin's above and your URL below) look identical 
to me.

I do question whether that particular chassis might not be an 
engineering mockup, however.
Seems to me they wouldn't build a chassis with so many screws and posts 
and separate stampings for a large production model as the DS is 
supposed to be.
In other words, I'm not convinced that's a production chassis.

keith whaley
I asked for the *ist Ds.
Regards
Martin


--
graywolf
http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html

Re: Focusing distance with istD

[Steve Jolly]

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Would earlier K-mount lenses (K, M, A, FA) focus any closer when used on an
istD(S) than when used on film camera bodies?
No - the back-focus is unchanged.  Many people percieve an apparent 
increase in the depth of field when enlarging images from smaller-format 
sensors though, which might allow you to get closer to your subject.

S

RE: Grandpa Stenquist

[ernreed2]

Paul said:
> He sent me some pics that look like they were
taken with a phone :-). However, they're good enough that I can tell that my 
grandaughter
is going to be quite a looker .

Somehow, I suspect you would have come to that conclusion even if no pictures 
had been provided.

:-D

ERN

OT: PS Elements 3 announced

[brooksdj]

  http://graphicssoft.about.com/b/a/112499.htm  

Sounds like some improvements here,although i have not looked into it that far,just 
what
Sue is saying 
on her pages.

Healing brush and Histogram carry overs from CS and camera raw support sounds
interesting,at least 
to me anyway.:-)

Maybe now i wont have to shell out big $$ to get a better raw support than from the 
basic
Nikon View.
(yup Herb i found out how to work it.)

Dave

Re: PESO: Rainbow Surfers

[Peter J. Alling]

That's a very nice shot, I don't see anything wrong with it. (That 
doesn't mean I couldn't find something).

Jens Bladt wrote:
On my way home from work, I drove by the local Yact Club, when the weather
suddenly changed to rain.
I came across these wind surfers:
http://gallery46369.fotopic.net/p7576484.html
Comments welcome
All the best
Jens
Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt

 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke

Re: OT - Canon mailing list?

[Peter J. Alling]

I'm not a Canon weenie, just tell him to get a real camera.
Christian wrote:
A friend  with a 300D (who is too lazy to do a google search) wants to 
know if anyone is familiar with a good Canon (general or DSLR) mailing 
list.  Any of you Canon weenies have a suggestion?

Thanks.
 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke

Re: OT: Lost rivers (Re: PAW: Wing Mirror

[John Francis]

frank theriault mused:
> 
> On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 20:03:16 +0100, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> , not "lost" ones. Not so?
> > 
> > well, technically I suppose you're right - they're not really lost.
> > But very, very few people are aware of when they're walking above one
> > of them, or even that there's one there at all.
> > 
> > There's also at least one 'lost' canal - the New River, an aquaduct
> > which was built in the early 17th century to bring drinking water to
> > London from a spring in Hertfordshire (one of the counties to the
> > immediate north of London). It's still flowing, and supplying us with
> > some of our drinking water.
> > 
> 
> All this talk of lost subterranean waterways reminds me of moles,
> those who live underground, especially in abandonned subway tunnels.
> 
> Rumour has it that there are many miles of uncharted abandonned subway
> tunnels in New York, much of which is inhabited by "moles" who are
> said to have their own vicious society down there.  Who knows how much
> of it is urban legend, but there does seem to be at least a seed of
> truth to the myths.

Not a very large seed.   Apart from the (not really surprising) fact
that some of the homeless will take advantage of just about any shelter,
including the mouths of abandoned sewer outlets or blocked tunnels,
there's very little else to it other than self-seeking publicity of
dubious merit.  The biggest story about the 'mole people', supposedly
written by someone who spent some time in a subterranean society below
central park, lost what little credibility it had when the photographs
used in it were identified as having been taken somewhere completely
different, nowhere near New York.

Re: PESO: vacation pics

[Bruce Dayton]

Hello Herb,

Some very nice shots.  Overall it looks like you are doing a great job
of getting shadow detail.  Nothing looks blocked up.  I think that
really is an important part of this type of shot.  Probably lack of
sun didn't hurt on that count.  My favorites are: 1, 5, 9, 12, 17

Thanks for sharing them with us.

Bruce


Friday, August 27, 2004, 6:57:57 PM, you wrote:

HC> nine days total around various parts of the Adirondacks in New York State
HC> and also in the local area as i had from Saturday to Sunday off. the first
HC> three are from Minnewaska State Park and the last one is from Harriman State
HC> Park. the rest are from various places in the Adirondacks. most of the trip
HC> was rainy when it normally is much drier. no real chances for sunsets nor
HC> macro shots. the times the sun came out, it was very humid and hazy and most
HC> of my distance shots were disappointing. didn't really take much time to
HC> find any macro shots, so didn't come away with any. so that left me with a
HC> lot of waterfall shots.

HC> http://users.bestweb.net/~hchong/Seasonal/

HC> Herb

Re: PAW - "Nazgul"

[Bruce Dayton]

I hate it when the skies make the subject very difficult to show well.
In this shot, I wish that I could see more detail in the seated figure
(Nazgul?).  As it stands, it comes across as a snapshot of a place
visited.

Bruce


Saturday, August 28, 2004, 2:29:57 AM, you wrote:

DM> Just a snapshot this week.

DM> http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=28-Aug-2004

DM> Cheers,

DM> - Dave

DM> http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/

Re: Francis visits Boone -- PESO

[John Francis]

Jostein mused:
> 
> 
> Cotty wrote: 
> > Francis is due to visit us later this weekend. It will have lost much of
> > its punch by then but will still give us gales and plenty of rain. Isn't
> > it amazing when you think how far that thing has travelled in such a
> > short space of time?
> 
> I trust you guys to wring the last juice out of it, and use the Welsh and Scottish 
> mountains to steer it clear of Eastern Norway. LOL
> 
> Where I go this week-end, I wouldn't like Francis to come along.
> 
> Jostein


Just FYI, folks:  the hurricane is 'Frances',  not 'Francis'

Re: PAW: Norwegian Impressions

[Bruce Dayton]

Hello Boris,

Very nice shot!  Not too often do I like to see scenics like this in
B&W.  You have managed to compose a shot that works very well.  The
clouds really add to the image.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Saturday, August 28, 2004, 1:10:11 PM, you wrote:

BL> Hi!

BL> Just technical details: Voigtlander Perkeo I, Color Skopar 80/3.5,
BL> Agfa APX 100, Epson 2450...

BL> I will make proper web page on my site, but later. Meanwhile, please
BL> use this link:

BL> http://www.webaperture.com/gallery/photos/46727

BL> Thanks.

Bunch of Pentax Screwmount for sale

[J. C. O'Connell]

FYI,

I have just posted a lot of Pentax Screwmount (M42) stuff for
auction, most with Buy It Now options so I am letting you know
ASAP.

http://jcoconnell.com/JCO_AUCT.HTM

Later,
JCO



   J.C. O'Connell   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://jcoconnell.com 

Re: PESO:ArtBar have a break - delay with MS Silvretta photos

[Bruce Dayton]

Hello Markus,

This comes across as a "slice of life" type of image to me.  I very
much like the location and composition.  The waitress cleaning up adds
to the photo, although it would be nice if there weren't motion blur
on her.  It would have also been nice to have a patron sitting there
reading a paper or something, to show just a little activity there.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Saturday, August 28, 2004, 3:30:53 PM, you wrote:

MM> Hi Pentax users
MM> I promised several  days ago to show you the rest of the MS "Silvretta"
MM> journey photos but will have to delete some more photos first on photo.net
MM> because I reach the limit of 100 free photos.


MM> This PESO shows a real nice place for a break in the old part of Zurich
MM> (Niederdorf) Switzerland.
MM> It was an art gallery only when it opened first but later the added a bar
MM> too to make some more cash out of it.

MM> As a side note: On the first print and later the big enlargement  the lab
MM> easily managed to crop the
MM> name of the gallery "Susi Brunner". This PESO is from the negative scan and
MM> shows an example how much ist
MM> lost at the edges in the lab when making prints. I was not amused


MM> I like the wonderful decoration of the gallery and the red and blue colors
MM> of this shot, what do you think?
MM> I made a single snapshot only.

MM> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2587362

MM> comments welcome
MM> greetings
MM> Markus

Re: Francis visits Boone -- PESO

[Peter J. Alling]

Are you sure Jostein was referring to the hurricane?
John Francis wrote:
Jostein mused:
 

Cotty wrote: 
   

Francis is due to visit us later this weekend. It will have lost much of
its punch by then but will still give us gales and plenty of rain. Isn't
it amazing when you think how far that thing has travelled in such a
short space of time?
 

I trust you guys to wring the last juice out of it, and use the Welsh and Scottish 
mountains to steer it clear of Eastern Norway. LOL
Where I go this week-end, I wouldn't like Francis to come along.
Jostein
   


Just FYI, folks:  the hurricane is 'Frances',  not 'Francis'

 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke

Re: PESO:FT style maybe?

[Bruce Dayton]

Markus,

Interesting shot.  The explanation really helps with understanding
what is going on.  It would have been nice to be able to see just a
bit more of the demonstration in relation to the woman - maybe not
quite so tight a shot.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Saturday, August 28, 2004, 5:11:04 PM, you wrote:

MM> Hi Frank
MM> this picture is made in 1984 some minutes before the demonstration started.
MM> Dome of the demonstrants unrolled the flag and the woman really had to rush
MM> to serve the champagne

MM> hope you don't mind :-)

MM> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2649941


MM> greetings
MM> Markus

Re: An Enzo at the Dream Cruise

[Bruce Dayton]

Paul,

Very cool shot!  What makes it for me is to see this very impressive
sports car sitting in the middle of traffic surrounded by a bunch of
trucks.  Very out of place and helps to emphasize it.  Well done.

Bruce


Saturday, August 28, 2004, 5:30:26 PM, you wrote:

PS> Enzo Ferarris are, well, really expensive. I was surprised to see one
PS> out in traffic among the other 40,000 cars at the Woodward Avenue Dream
PS> Cruise in Detroit last weekend. Of course it's not as surprising as
PS> seeing a million dollar F1 car in a vintage race. If you can afford to
PS> break it, you can do what you want. In any case, I shot the Enzo with
PS> my SMC A 400/5.6 on the *ist D. ISO 200, tripod, RAW.
PS> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2639520&size=lg

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

[Shel Belinkoff]

While I understand that it's too early to make final judgments, is there
anything to suggest that the support won't be as good?

Shel

> From: Peter J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Only if the K/M support is at least as good as the *ist-D has now.

> >Hmmm  just thinking out loud here ... that M24~35 zoom in the
equipment
> >drawer should make a pretty nice "normal" lens for the istDS.

Re: OT - Canon mailing list?

[Christian]

Peter J. Alling wrote on 9/15/2004, 1:27 PM:

 > I'm not a Canon weenie, just tell him to get a real camera.
 >

ha!  Trust me, I've explained the virtues of Pentax ad nauseum

-- 
Christian
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: PAW - NOT a bug or a bird

[Bruce Dayton]

Great expression, almost like he is saying "Are you talkin' to me?"
Great clarity and sharpness.  One to be proud of.

Bruce


Saturday, August 28, 2004, 7:46:14 PM, you wrote:

CS> http://home.mindspring.com/~c_skofteland/id26.html

CS> I found this little guy crawling through the grass while on a walk with my
CS> wife and daughters.  It was right around 1pm, over 90F and really humid.

CS> details: Pentax *ist D; Vivitar Series 1 105mm F2.5 Macro f8 @ 1/160 ISO
CS> 400; Shot as a JPEG; no cropping; resized for the web.

CS> Comments always appreciated.

CS> Christian

Re: PESO: Street performers

[Bruce Dayton]

Hello Dario,

Having a daughter who plays viola, I am partial to shots like this.  I
think you have done a great job showing both the musician and
surroundings.  You can see the concentration in her face and still get
a really good idea of where they are.  Good angle and eye!

Bruce


Tuesday, August 31, 2004, 7:11:45 AM, you wrote:

DB> The link:
DB> http://www.dariobonazza.com/paw/paw09.jpg

DB> The technical stuff:
DB> *ist D, DA16-45mm @ 29mm (43mm equiv.), 1/350 sec, f/5.6, 200 ISO.

DB> Dario

RE: istDs - what a great camera!

[J. C. O'Connell]

"as Good" ?? It sucks now, I don't see how it could get any worse.
It should get better, not worse. Not fully supporting the "K" mount
is a crock of shit IMHO. There are many fine K and M lenses that
are being crippled by pentax *istD for zero technical reasons. But this
is
old argument
JCO

-Original Message-
From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 1:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: istDs - what a great camera!


While I understand that it's too early to make final judgments, is there
anything to suggest that the support won't be as good?

Shel

> From: Peter J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Only if the K/M support is at least as good as the *ist-D has now.

> >Hmmm  just thinking out loud here ... that M24~35 zoom in the
equipment
> >drawer should make a pretty nice "normal" lens for the istDS.

Re: PESO: Film vs. Digital

[Bruce Dayton]

Having two teenage daughters I see from them and friends that odd
angled shots are very much in vogue these days.  So seeing this one
angled like that didn't bother me as much as it used to.

I do like the general blue background with two different colored
buildings poking up.  It is a very effective image for me.

Nice work.

Bruce


Tuesday, August 31, 2004, 8:07:04 AM, you wrote:


C> http://www.pbase.com/image/33249054

Re: PESO: Morning dew Flower

[Bruce Dayton]

Hello Jens,

Good job on a first attempt.  With the black out background, it almost
gives this a studio look.  I am more of a fan of seeing more of the
surroundings of the flower rather than isolation - maybe because I see
them this way so often.  Not to take away from the image - must be
like Mike Johnston and cats - or was it dogs?

Anyway, good work - this *istD is very fun for honing your skills.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Tuesday, August 31, 2004, 10:38:26 PM, you wrote:

JB> My first serious attempt to make a nice photograph, having owned a *ist for
JB> 16 hours.
JB> I shot this in the early morning light. The rising sun was shining throug
JB> the leaves of the yellow flower from behind - morning dew still present. I
JB> used a SMC-M* 4/300mm (f8 I guess) and a monopod at 200 ISO.
JB> Any comments area welcome.
JB> http://gallery46369.fotopic.net/p7200371.html
JB> All the best
JB> Jens Bladt
JB> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
JB> http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt

Re: PESO - More street performers

[Bruce Dayton]

Hello Dario,

I like the character and feeling from the first street performers
better.  This one is more tourist snapshot like.  Nothing wrong with
it, but not nearly as powerful.

Bruce


Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 12:04:23 AM, you wrote:

DB> This was an earlier shot, taken when the sun was still in the shade (so that
DB> the right arm is not overexposed, Sylwek :-).

DB> The link:
DB> http://www.dariobonazza.com/paw/paw12.jpg

DB> The technical data:
DB> *ist D, DA16-45mm @ 16mm (24mm equiv.), 1/500 sec, f/4, 200 ISO.

DB> Dario

Re: PAW - NOT a bug or a bird

[Shel Belinkoff]

  Must be the rare and elusive Bickle Tortoise 

Shel 

> From: Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Great expression, almost like he is saying "Are you talkin' to me?"
> Great clarity and sharpness.  One to be proud of.
>
> Bruce
>
>
> Saturday, August 28, 2004, 7:46:14 PM, you wrote:
>
> CS> http://home.mindspring.com/~c_skofteland/id26.html

Re: PAW - Untitled and Undescribed

[Bruce Dayton]

Shel,

This shot begs for a lot to be read into it.  It is comes across as
something that has been thought through rather than a simple snapshot.
Technically, the shot is well done.  Composition and exposure are very
good.  Having the head on it's side and the person in the background
laying down seems to make a statement.  This is almost a photo to be
discussed in a philosophical group as to it's meaning - I think it
would cause quite a discussion.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 7:28:27 AM, you wrote:

SB> http://home.earthlink.net/~sbelinkoff/heads/images/head04.html


SB> Shel

Re: New Sigma Ring Flash

[Tom Reese]

Cotty stopped brewing his tea long enough to write:

"

Is there a Pentax ring flash?"

The Pentax ring flashes have been mentioned by others. Sunpak also makes
two:

DX-8R
DX-12R

The Sunpak units use interchangeable modules so the flash can be used with
other systems. The DX-12R is big enough to fit 67mm dia lenses.

Tom Reese

Re: PAW - Untitled and Undescribed

[Bruce Dayton]

Hello Shel,

I like the first shot presented better.  Having the sculture and the
human together gives me more cause for thought than the two
sculptures.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 8:44:01 AM, you wrote:

SB> San Francisco is filled with such things.  I believe it's a permanent
SB> display.  Here's another snap of the scene, taken with an entirely
SB> different purpose in mind, and a little earlier in the day.  

SB> http://home.earthlink.net/~sbelinkoff/heads/images/head01.html

SB> Shel

>> From: Boros Attila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


>> SB> http://home.earthlink.net/~sbelinkoff/heads/images/head04.html

>> Very impressive. Reminds me of that theatre logo, happy face & sad
>> face, combined into one. Was that an art exhibition?

Re: OT - Canon mailing list?

[Maris V. Lidaka Sr.]

I'm not prejudiced, so here it is:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CanonFD

Lots of OT messages, as there are here :-)

Maris

Christian wrote:
> A friend  with a 300D (who is too lazy to do a google search) wants to
> know if anyone is familiar with a good Canon (general or DSLR) mailing
> list.  Any of you Canon weenies have a suggestion?

RE: istDs - what a great camera!

[pnstenquist]

I didn't know you were using an *istD, JCO. Mine works fine with K and M lenses. I use 
them nearly every day.


> "as Good" ?? It sucks now, I don't see how it could get any worse.
> It should get better, not worse. Not fully supporting the "K" mount
> is a crock of shit IMHO. There are many fine K and M lenses that
> are being crippled by pentax *istD for zero technical reasons. But this
> is
> old argument
> JCO
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 1:37 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: istDs - what a great camera!
> 
> 
> While I understand that it's too early to make final judgments, is there
> anything to suggest that the support won't be as good?
> 
> Shel
> 
> > From: Peter J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > Only if the K/M support is at least as good as the *ist-D has now.
> 
> > >Hmmm  just thinking out loud here ... that M24~35 zoom in the
> equipment
> > >drawer should make a pretty nice "normal" lens for the istDS.
> 
> 

Re: Minolta is game again, where is heading Pentax!?

[Alin Flaider]

  Hi Bruce,
  
  I was hinting rather to the new (actually one year old) ultrasonic
  SSM lenses: 300/2.8 G, 28-70/2.8 G, 80-200/2.8 G (what more than
  that as commitment to full-frame!?). Sadly, Pentax release nothing
  of this caliber in the past years.
  
  Servus,  Alin

Bruce wrote:
BD> My understanding from doing a little reading on the Minolta forums is
BD> that the new 28-75/2.8 pro lens is really a rebadged Tamron - the same
BD> one I have.  It is a great lens, but does not necessarily mean that
BD> Minolta is surging way ahead.

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

[pnstenquist]

To the contrary, the dPreview review mentioned that Pentax had indicated that it would 
work with any K mount lens, although not all would be able to utilize full capability. 
Sounds like the *istD workaround, which I have found to be just fine.
Paul


> While I understand that it's too early to make final judgments, is there
> anything to suggest that the support won't be as good?
> 
> Shel
> 
> > From: Peter J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > Only if the K/M support is at least as good as the *ist-D has now.
> 
> > >Hmmm  just thinking out loud here ... that M24~35 zoom in the
> equipment
> > >drawer should make a pretty nice "normal" lens for the istDS.
> 
> 

Re: An Enzo at the Dream Cruise

[pnstenquist]

Thanks Bruce. You must be digging way back in your PAW folder .
Paul


> Paul,
> 
> Very cool shot!  What makes it for me is to see this very impressive
> sports car sitting in the middle of traffic surrounded by a bunch of
> trucks.  Very out of place and helps to emphasize it.  Well done.
> 
> Bruce
> 
> 
> Saturday, August 28, 2004, 5:30:26 PM, you wrote:
> 
> PS> Enzo Ferarris are, well, really expensive. I was surprised to see one
> PS> out in traffic among the other 40,000 cars at the Woodward Avenue Dream
> PS> Cruise in Detroit last weekend. Of course it's not as surprising as
> PS> seeing a million dollar F1 car in a vintage race. If you can afford to
> PS> break it, you can do what you want. In any case, I shot the Enzo with
> PS> my SMC A 400/5.6 on the *ist D. ISO 200, tripod, RAW.
> PS> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2639520&size=lg
> 
> 
> 

Help needed for Raw plug-in for Photoshop

[Jens Bladt]

Hi all when I download the raw converter plug in from pentaxusa.com, I get I
file that I cannot unzip!
Anyone had this experience?
Cheers
Jens


Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt

RE: istDs - what a great camera!

[J. C. O'Connell]

Subject: RE: istDs - what a great camera!


It now does open aperture metered manual and Aperure Priority AE, -ON
THE FLY- like every Pentax film camera always did? JCO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 1:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: istDs - what a great camera!


I didn't know you were using an *istD, JCO. Mine works fine with K and M
lenses. I use them nearly every day.


> "as Good" ?? It sucks now, I don't see how it could get any worse. It
> should get better, not worse. Not fully supporting the "K" mount is a 
> crock of shit IMHO. There are many fine K and M lenses that are being 
> crippled by pentax *istD for zero technical reasons. But this is
> old argument
> JCO
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 1:37 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: istDs - what a great camera!
> 
> 
> While I understand that it's too early to make final judgments, is
> there anything to suggest that the support won't be as good?
> 
> Shel
> 
> > From: Peter J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > Only if the K/M support is at least as good as the *ist-D has now.
> 
> > >Hmmm  just thinking out loud here ... that M24~35 zoom in the
> equipment
> > >drawer should make a pretty nice "normal" lens for the istDS.
> 
> 

RE: istDs - what a great camera!

[Kostas Kavoussanakis]

> -Original Message-
> From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 1:37 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: istDs - what a great camera!
>
>
> While I understand that it's too early to make final judgments, is there
> anything to suggest that the support won't be as good?

On Wed, 15 Sep 2004, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
>
> "as Good" ?? It sucks now, I don't see how it could get any worse.

Wanna bet? Remember what the *ist-D was like before the firmware?

> It should get better, not worse. Not fully supporting the "K" mount
> is a crock of shit IMHO. There are many fine K and M lenses that
> are being crippled by pentax *istD for zero technical reasons. But this
> is
> old argument

I agree with that stuff, including the summary point.

To answer Shel's question, according to dpreview there is provision
for utilisation with K/M lenses with limitations. I guess we will have
to wait a bit to understand where we are with it.

Kostas

RE: istDs - what a great camera!

[J. C. O'Connell]

It now does open aperture metered manual and Aperure Priority AE, -ON
THE FLY-
like every Pentax film camera always did?
JCO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 1:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: istDs - what a great camera!


I didn't know you were using an *istD, JCO. Mine works fine with K and M
lenses. I use them nearly every day.


> "as Good" ?? It sucks now, I don't see how it could get any worse. It 
> should get better, not worse. Not fully supporting the "K" mount is a 
> crock of shit IMHO. There are many fine K and M lenses that are being 
> crippled by pentax *istD for zero technical reasons. But this is
> old argument
> JCO
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 1:37 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: istDs - what a great camera!
> 
> 
> While I understand that it's too early to make final judgments, is 
> there anything to suggest that the support won't be as good?
> 
> Shel
> 
> > From: Peter J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > Only if the K/M support is at least as good as the *ist-D has now.
> 
> > >Hmmm  just thinking out loud here ... that M24~35 zoom in the
> equipment
> > >drawer should make a pretty nice "normal" lens for the istDS.
> 
>