Re: ist D/DA 16-45 rebate, did anyone get theirs?
On 8/12/04, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed: >I asked for the "Rebate Lady". Tell her Cotty says hi ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Digital grain (was Re: PESO My type of photographer)
Are pronouns black? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Digital grain (was Re: PESO My type of photographer)
On 9/12/04, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: >Usually you can rewrite it, and often improve it, by >addressing the reader as 'you', or by putting the whole thing into the >plural. > >Examples: > >> proper non-gender specific pronoun > >Purists always hyphenate correctly. If you're a purist you always >hyphenate correctly. Is this being a Blairite? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Is something wrong with my CF card?
I'd try re-formatting in the camera first - it's possible that the technique you used for moving the files to a hard drive (or whatever) has not freed up the space used correctly. John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: "Steve Pearson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax Discussion Board" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 1:24 PM Subject: Is something wrong with my CF card? I have a 512 MB SanDisk extreme II (IIRC) that only reads 39 photos when it is empty (with the ist D set to JPEG Large). When I put in a regular Sandisk 512 card, it reads 119 pictures left to take. So, is the card bad? Can I just re-format it in the camera to fix it, or do I need to send it back to Sandisk for repair/replacement? TIA for any help. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
Re: Pentax Sighting! Ad nostalgia..
- Original Message - From: "Ryan Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> John Coyle once showed me some original Pentax ads mined from his vast collection of photography literature- I can only imagine how wideeyed some of you were when you saw those ads hot off the press! Would anyone like to share what camera ad you tore out of a magazine and kept safely away til you could scrounge up enough to buy it? As Ryan indicates, I've kept a few copies of various magazines and brochures over the years! My first was (and still is) Amateur Photographer for 27/10/65, on page 47 of which is a double-spread ad for the Pentax SLR's of the time (S1a, SV and Spotmatic). I still have the original brochures for the K series cameras, including the K2, and the LX, both of which I lusted after but couldn't afford at the time. I was encouraged the other day to see a very positive review in our national newspaper, 'The Australian', in which the reviewer said that the *istD ,while priced at the same level as the 300D, is a much better camera - he used the term semi-professional! Unfortunately, it was in a supplement to the IT section, so probably won't get very much exposure. Kennedy's also seem to be placing more press advertising than I've seen for a while, maybe Pentax has been getting on their case? John Coyle Brisbane, Australia
Re: Here's an idea for the holidays ...
On Dec 9, 2004, at 3:03 AM, John Francis wrote: There's a whole lot of the world (even limiting it to the part that celebrates Christmas :-) that isn't within casual walking distance for the group membership. I'm not suggesting people take it to ridiculous extremes, but going five or ten miles from the house is still close enough for a group as wide-spread as this one, with members across the globe. Considering I have yet to see any Christmas lights in our neighborhood (besides on our own tree, of course), I have to agree with the above sentiments. :-) Actually, the bulk of our neighbors won't put up their trees until Wigilia (Christmas Eve) and will probably keep them up until February. :-) -- -Jon Glass Krakow, Poland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement
Mishka mused: > > it actually *is* on commercial basis. does red hat ring a bell, just to name > one > (but not, by far, the only)? I'm well aware of Red Hat, Debian, etc. But they're not selling the software - they're selling support services. If they actually had to pay for the software development (or even for the software engineering effort to fix many of the problems) it would be a very different story. > > but it's a very different (from, say, adobe) business model: free (or > cheap) software, > profit off support. i think, the majority of software development use this > model > in some form (except for "shrink-wrapped" products you buy at compusa, but > that > a negligible part of all software) Just where did you pull that ridiculous statistic from? By far the majority of all software (on home PCs and on business systems) is bought "shrink wrapped", either from CompUSA or from the manufacturer. Windows, Solaris, OS/X, AIX, Irix, and all those application packages. That includes systems running Linux - most of the business Linux sites still run proprietary shrink-wrapped applications on those Linux boxes. The open-source developer community might only have a negligible amount of shrink-wrapped software on their average system, but that's only a negligible part of the total software development world, which in turn is only a negligible part of the entire computer software marketplace.
RE: Awful noises from my PZ-1
I could only imagine it was either the motor, or some worn parts like shaft or gears etc. Never open mine to see what it looks like, sorry. But it doesn't sound expensive to fix, for the parts at least (labour ecxlude). :-( Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan Out of the blue, my much-used PZ-1 has started making an ugly grinding noise when the film winds after an exposure. Actually, it makes the noise whether there is film in the camera or not. It sounds as though it is coming from behind and a bit below the shutter release. Rewind sounds normal. Any ideas what this might be and what it might cost to fix it?
RE: Pentax K8.4/f2.8 Fish-Eye
Was the one w/o the aperture ring rubber? I don't remember. But if you saw one, don't forget to snap a few good pics. I think Bojidar could use a good pic of this lens for this site. :-) Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan Hi everybody on the PDML, I have been silent for a while. Wich does not mean that I am out of Pentax. On the contrary: After considering the decision for a whole year, in August I bought an *ist D - which I enjoy! Now, however, I am back with a question concerning the Pentax K8.4/f2.8 Fish-Eye that was for sale in spring. Does somebody know what it sold for? Greetings from gray and rainy Hamburg, Arnold
Re: Re[2]: Happy Hannukah
Yes, Boris, I am aware of that. I have had several very long and very interesting conversations about that topic (and what defines "nationality") with several people. And yes I agree, it is probably not a topic for the Pentax list. As it is, any potential kids are bound to be more about Argentina-Quebec-Poland-USA than about anything else. Not that there's anything especially good or bad about nationalities though. My feelings towards patriotism are similar to my feelings towards religion. j On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 07:41:43 +0200, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > JB> I forgot to add, we are both quite strong atheist/agnostics (*), so > JB> our potential children have equal chances of belonging to any > JB> religion, with a big slant on none. When I said "Happy Hannukah" last > JB> night, it was almost as meaningless to her as it was to me. > > Being Jewish means belonging to certain nationality, Juan. And the > fact that you children will be Jewish, as was mentioned earlier, > reflects a tradition. It has nothing to do with religion. Among Jews > (both religious and secular ones), the Jewishness is passed through > mother's line of blood. > > Though it is heavily OT, I thought I'd mention that, simply because it > would seem that pretty harmless comment is causing this discussion to > take unexpected direction. > > Boris > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Juan Buhler http://www.jbuhler.com blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog
Re[2]: Happy Hannukah
Hi! JB> I forgot to add, we are both quite strong atheist/agnostics (*), so JB> our potential children have equal chances of belonging to any JB> religion, with a big slant on none. When I said "Happy Hannukah" last JB> night, it was almost as meaningless to her as it was to me. Being Jewish means belonging to certain nationality, Juan. And the fact that you children will be Jewish, as was mentioned earlier, reflects a tradition. It has nothing to do with religion. Among Jews (both religious and secular ones), the Jewishness is passed through mother's line of blood. Though it is heavily OT, I thought I'd mention that, simply because it would seem that pretty harmless comment is causing this discussion to take unexpected direction. Boris mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Digital grain (was Re: PESO My type of photographer)
On Dec 8, 2004, at 11:36 PM, Jon Glass wrote: I thought a purist drank "his" coffee black. (A purist also uses the proper non-gender specific pronoun in English as well). Actually, that was the joke... but as I understand English, a purist would stick to the historical understanding of the English language, and not allow his language to be "trendy" either... My mistake! I didn't realize I had used "their." That's not my normal practice Sorry I misunderstood your statement!!! (still pondering why he used "their" instead of "his"...) -- -Jon Glass Krakow, Poland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative
On Dec 9, 2004, at 12:34 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: While I'd like a Wacom (it's on my Hanukah list ) I'm not familiar enough with it to know how much better it would be than a mouse for this and similar projects. There are other scenarios where it's benefit is quite obvious. Guess I just need to get one and see for myself which tool is better for what situations. Which might you recommend - the Intuos or the Graphire (I think those are the models)? Thanks! My recommendation is to get an Intuos. The pen is much more comfortable to hold and the whole build quality just seems a lot better. It also has better specifications. From what I've seen the Intuos2 pen is better again. I haven't seen the latest Intuos3 tablets. I don't know what later tablets are like, but my original Intuos 4x5 does pick up a little electromagnetic interference if I have it closer than about 12" from one of my screens. The pointer vibrates a little on the screen when it's too close. If I only had one screen that wouldn't be a problem but because I have two (both 19") the tablet has to be located a little too far to the right for my liking. That's one reason why I want to get an LCD. Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
OT: Digital Lith (was Re: "Fake" vs "Real" effects)
All, Well, here they are. These are architectural shots taken of a community center a couple of blocks from my house in East Sacramento. I'm going for an edgy, empty, wintery feel with these: http://www.westerickson.net/mark/misc/ClunieDoor1.jpg http://www.westerickson.net/mark/misc/ClunieDoor4.jpg http://www.westerickson.net/mark/misc/CluniePool3.jpg Here are the tech details: Images made with a Rolleiflex 3.5E (Xenotar) stopped down on a tripod with Kodak Portra 400UC. Scanned with an Epson 4870. Converted to black and white with the channel mixer (different level balances for each image). I'm using a "Digital Lith" technique based on the workflow described by Marco Pauck at: http://www.pauck.de/marco/photo/lith/digital_lith/digital_lith.html I'm actually getting very nice prints on my Epson R800 printer. Compared to the prints, the web images maintain some of the feel but lose a lot of the fine crispness that is maintained on paper. Comments and critiques are most welcome. I'm going to start working on another project soon and will probably use my Pentax gear for this one! --Mark
Re: Is something wrong with my CF card?
I got a defective 512 card made by Sandisk. Formatting it didn't do any good. I contacted them (can't remember if by phone or email) and they gave me specific instructions to send it back for a replacement. There was the small inconvenience of waiting for the replacement, but the new card works satisfactorily. Jim A. > From: Steve Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 19:24:08 -0800 (PST) > To: Pentax Discussion Board <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Is something wrong with my CF card? > Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 22:24:17 -0500 > > I have a 512 MB SanDisk extreme II (IIRC) that only > reads 39 photos when it is empty (with the ist D set > to JPEG Large). When I put in a regular Sandisk 512 > card, it reads 119 pictures left to take. So, is the > card bad? Can I just re-format it in the camera to > fix it, or do I need to send it back to Sandisk for > repair/replacement? > > TIA for any help. > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 >
Re: Is something wrong with my CF card?
Quoting Steve Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I have a 512 MB SanDisk extreme II (IIRC) that only > reads 39 photos when it is empty (with the ist D set > to JPEG Large). When I put in a regular Sandisk 512 > card, it reads 119 pictures left to take. So, is the > card bad? Can I just re-format it in the camera to > fix it, or do I need to send it back to Sandisk for > repair/replacement? Well, not that I have a CLUE what's wrong with your card, but if I were you I would certainly try to reformat it in the camera and see if that made a difference. If it doesn't, then call SanDisk. If you need to return it to them, you have to talk to them first. They have procedures for you to use to return disks. ERNR
Re: mx shutter behavior
Collin, I have an article on MX shutter lever adjustments at: http://ca.geocities.com/spirope/mxmlu.htm Tiny alterations in the angle at which the actuating rod is set can greatly alter the behaviour of the camera. You can get mirror lockup by having the mirror lock-up by pressing slowly and gently on the shutter release (instead of flicking), or you can have the mirror not go up at all! It's a relatively easy adjustment to do (it must be, as it's one of the repairs I managed to do without messing up the camera.)
Re: Need help on 50mm A f/2 with stuck focussing
Thanks for the suggestions. I think Colin's hypothesis that it must have been bumped was correct, even though there was no physical damage on the outside. I used a screwdriver to wedge the plastic helicoid apart from the aluminum one. The threads had been knocked out of place, which I guess is what can happen given the flexibility of plastic. (I don't think a mating of plastic and metal is such a good idea, but I guess it's cheap, and most of the time it works.) I was able to move it up a bit, and then the threads popped into place. Unfortunately, part of the plastic cracked in the process, so the operation was a success but the patient died.
Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement
there *are* effects of scale. a similar tool (to PS) would cost tens or hundreds of kilo$ if adobe had a hundred customers in the world. that's what our product used to sell at my previous job. i think the price is probably reasonable, however, the business model is flawed. enforcing and bitching about "intellectual property" is kinda pointless, considering that easily over 80% of the world population doesn't know it exists. it's quite far from being a "universally accepted" concept, like, e.g. physical property. best, mishka On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 07:39:05 +, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know there are other factors involved in the > argument but, for me, software is _grotesquely_ overpriced. It would be > really interesting to see if any company had the mettle to reduce their > price by a couple of orders of magnitude to try to corner the market. > > m > >
Is something wrong with my CF card?
I have a 512 MB SanDisk extreme II (IIRC) that only reads 39 photos when it is empty (with the ist D set to JPEG Large). When I put in a regular Sandisk 512 card, it reads 119 pictures left to take. So, is the card bad? Can I just re-format it in the camera to fix it, or do I need to send it back to Sandisk for repair/replacement? TIA for any help. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement
i second that. you rarely see an orchestra with one or two virtuosos and a hundred musicians who can barely read the score. which is a commonplace in software development. mishka On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 21:01:34 -0500, Peter J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Based on my experience in software development I'm not sure the actual > value isn't the reverse... > > > > William Robb wrote: > > > > > - Original Message - From: "mike wilson" > > Subject: Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement > > > > > >> John Francis wrote: > >> > >>> If an orchestra only gave one performance every three years (or if they > >>> gave up public performances, and tried to survive solely on CD sales) > >>> you'd be paying a lot more that $600 for a ticket or for that CD. > >> > >> > >> I get the impression that most of the larger, more famous orchestras > >> get most of their income from recorded music sales. They do that by > >> selling at low profit, high turnover. > > > > > > Mike, are you presuming that yer basic orchestra (or even a very good > > one) has the same dollar value of input costs compared to a large crew > > of software engineers playing with really expensive computers? > > > > William Robb > > > > > > > > -- > I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. > During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings > and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during > peacetime. > --P.J. O'Rourke > >
Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement
it actually *is* on commercial basis. does red hat ring a bell, just to name one (but not, by far, the only)? but it's a very different (from, say, adobe) business model: free (or cheap) software, profit off support. i think, the majority of software development use this model in some form (except for "shrink-wrapped" products you buy at compusa, but that a negligible part of all software) On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 16:34:15 -0500 (EST), John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any idea how much Linux would cost if it was actually on a commercial > basis? Look how large Linux is, compared to MS/DOS, CP/M, or even to > commercial operating systems such as early versions of Unix.
Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement
Quoting William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Anyway, if my friend the Photoshop instructo is correct in his > assertion that Adobe has sold about 1 in every 10 copies that are in > use, (an I see no reason to doubt him), I don't see how you can argue > that pirating isn't causing a problem. If they could sell half of > what is in use, the price would most likely be significantly lower > per unit. Also, I suspect (though I have no studies to back this up) that some people in possession of illegal copies of Photoshop might have considered *buying* Photoshop Elements if they hadn't had the opportunity to buy the illegal copy of Photoshop. Count me among those who say that "It's illegal" should be a good enough reason not to do it. Then there are some more good reasons as well. ERNR
Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement
more like, you go to a library and xerox a book. and the original copy stays with the library. best, mishka On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 13:04:36 -0700, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let's take this to another level. I walk up to a car > lot, find the keys in the ignition, and drive off with a brand new Jaguar. > Does that NOT represent a lost sale for the dealer just because I never > planned on buying it in the first place? Granted, I could not have > fabricated a like Jaguar by running it through a Car Duplicating Machine, > but you see the point.
Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement
On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 10:32:14 -0500, Graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Second. How does someone using an unlicensed and unsupported copy of Photoshop > raise the prices of legitimate copies. I would assume that the folks using the > free copies would not pay $600 for it in any case. They would just use > something > else. Bingo! Mishka (a software developer)
Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative Why did you chose the Intuos over the Graphire? The intuos has twice the pressure levels and a much nicer pen. I liked the idea of the buttons on the tablet, and am finding that they are quite useful. I didn't like the mouse option with the Graphire, but I am finding the mouse with the intuos is much nicer, and the somewhat larger pad makes it easier to use. I don't use a mouse much anyway, I have been using a trackball for quite some time, and haven't had a mouse hooked up for some time. I was using a 4x5 Graphire for a while, but never got to like it. William Robb
Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement
- Original Message - From: "Peter J. Alling" Subject: Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement Based on my experience in software development I'm not sure the actual value isn't the reverse... You are absolutely correct in that. William Robb
Re: Paw: Fall colours #2
I'll answer for Frank.. Your point? Doug Franklin wrote: On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 19:04:46 -0500, frank theriault wrote: Or, you'll be like me, and keep doing the same thing anyway I'm sure you know that's one definition of insanity. :-) TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement
Based on my experience in software development I'm not sure the actual value isn't the reverse... William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "mike wilson" Subject: Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement John Francis wrote: If an orchestra only gave one performance every three years (or if they gave up public performances, and tried to survive solely on CD sales) you'd be paying a lot more that $600 for a ticket or for that CD. I get the impression that most of the larger, more famous orchestras get most of their income from recorded music sales. They do that by selling at low profit, high turnover. Mike, are you presuming that yer basic orchestra (or even a very good one) has the same dollar value of input costs compared to a large crew of software engineers playing with really expensive computers? William Robb -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: In the Art Gallery
Frank, FWIW, this one does nothing for me except to remind me you also shoot color. Remember this comment is from a guy who shoots bears Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PDML" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 9:44 PM Subject: PESO: In the Art Gallery > File this one under "missed it by ~that~ much" (as Agent 86 used to say): > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2941715 > > I think (with the greatest of humility) that were it not for the > couple (yes, there are two of them - count the feet) almost dead > centre, this would have been a real keeper. At least, it would have > been one that I'd have really, really liked. > > But, they're there. So, it's not what it could have been, but it's > still kinda okay. Sadly, I couldn't wait for them to move, as I was > chasing kids, and had to move on... > > OTOH, maybe you really like it a lot as is. Or (more likely ) you > really hate it. Either way (or anywhere in between), comments are > always appreciated. Thanks in advance. > > cheers, > frank > > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson >
Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative
Why did you chose the Intuos over the Graphire? Shel > [Original Message] > From: William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 12/8/2004 5:59:17 PM > Subject: Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative > > > - Original Message - > From: "Juan Buhler" > Subject: Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative > > > > > > Haven't had experience with the Intuous. > > I just took delivery of an Intuos 3 6x8 tablet. > So far, I am pretty ecstatic with it. > > William Robb
Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement
That should be their cost of course. Peter J. Alling wrote: Their const would be significantly lower per unit. Not necessarily your cost... William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "mike wilson" Subject: Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement Not sure I agree with you (I don't think the photographer analogy stands up at all) and I still don't understand why music CDs are so much cheaper, given the development costs are similar. If pirating was causing high prices, recorded music prices should be astronomical. What is keeping the price high is that people are willing to pay it. I don't understand why you are trying to make a connection between music CDs and software. Other than that they are both on little plastic discs, they don't really have much in common. I helped "develop" a music CD a couple of years ago. It was a buddy of mine recording a buddy of his' music. The development cost was a couple of cases of beer, plus materials. We did pretty good too. Anyway, if my friend the Photoshop instructo is correct in his assertion that Adobe has sold about 1 in every 10 copies that are in use, (an I see no reason to doubt him), I don't see how you can argue that pirating isn't causing a problem. If they could sell half of what is in use, the price would most likely be significantly lower per unit. William Robb -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: Flash Brackets & 5P Flashes
You could try the Pentax hot shoe grip and bracket. You'd have to buy one more part, (hotshoe F I think). IIRC correctly the 500 connects directly to a 5P cord so you might not need it if you pull the contacts out of the grip. I have mine connected to the 360, works like a charm I got my set from ebay and KEH.com Feroze - Original Message - From: "Patrick Genovese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 9:36 PM Subject: Flash Brackets & 5P Flashes I'm looking for a decent and hopefully not ridiculously expensive flash bracket to mount may af-500FTZ off camera to end up with a handle mount type setup like the 400t. I'm interested in doing contrast control flash with the 500ftz and the built in flash on the MZ-S. I'v already got the necessary 5P cord and hot shoe adapter that allows the popup flash to open properly. Any suggestions for a flash bracket ? Tnx Patrick
Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement
Software, orchestras, Photoshop... So, as Ansel said, if the RAW file is the partiture, then Photoshop is the orchestra. See? it isn't a bad analogy after all. :-) -- Juan Buhler http://www.jbuhler.com blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog
Re: PAW Something different for me
"Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 8 Dec 2004 at 15:58, Mark Roberts wrote: > >> Have you tried desaturating it completely? I suspect it might be really >> good as a B&W shot. > >Hi Mark, > >Just made a new RAW conversion and a Q&D B&W conversion, not that pleased with >the current result but I agree there is plenty of scope in it. > >http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/IMGP5212.jpg >http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/IMGP5212gs.jpg Yeah! I really like it in black & white! But as you say, there's still plenty of scope left to improve it even more. Try some different black & white conversions and levels adjustments. That's a great shot. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: PESO My type of photographer
Like the title says - mine too. I really like what you've got here, the OOF area vs the in-focus photog. Biggest nit for me is the white background. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 8:34 PM Subject: PESO My type of photographer > Well I might as well join the pack, an attempt at a mono image from a really > severely rear lit *ist D image using a hue adjustment/desaturate layer and > curves approach: > > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/IMGP8928.jpg > > Hand held grab shot using my *ist D and FA200/2.8, 1/400th @ f5 ISO 200 > > Think "Shuz". Comments welcome. > > PS the camera is an SRT101 with Rokkor 50/1.7 > > Cheers, > > > Rob Studdert > HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA > Tel +61-2-9554-4110 > UTC(GMT) +10 Hours > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ > Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 >
Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement Hmm, Well a musician playing with a good orchestra probably has gone through at least fifteen years of very expensive one-on-one training. And the man hours necessary to prepare for a performance are mind boggling. Consider as well that a good violin sells for about $7000. At least as much as a good computer. Input costs for serious music are considerable. But Paul, the orchestra isn't bearing the cost of all that. Or rarely is, anyway. William Robb
Re: Here's an idea for the holidays ...
I intend to shoot some Christmas lights anyway, so I will certainly post them. Paulo > Shel Belinkoff mused: > > > > This suggestion was posted on another list. The idea seems like a good > > one. The key is doing it in your own neighborhood. What say ye? > > > > Just for kicks one night over this next week lets all try to take a > > walk around our neighborhoods and make some photos of the Christmas > > lights to be found there...no where that you have to drive too...just > > what is right where you live...then post these photos on line > > somewhere.might be fun to see what all is like around each of us. > > I think you're being a little too restrictive. There's a whole lot of > the world (even limiting it to the part that celebrates Christmas :-) > that isn't within casual walking distance for the group membership. > I'm not suggesting people take it to ridiculous extremes, but going > five or ten miles from the house is still close enough for a group > as wide-spread as this one, with members across the globe. >
Re: "Fake" vs "Real" effects
I'd differ with you on that. Grain can be reasonably well controlled in B&W once you know what you're doing by choice of film, exposure, developer, developing technique, and choice of paper (both in terms of finish and contrast grade). Apart from the size of the grain (actually grain clumps) their hardness or softness can be controlled as well. Using the various techniques, the look and feel of a photograph can be changed substantially, giving it one feeling or another, strengthing or softening its impact, and, thereby, modifyng the meaning and intent of the image. Perhaps not on as grand a scale as a color conversion to B&W, but to a substantial degree. A possibly extreme, but reasonable, example, would be the choice of making a photo on the now defunct 2475 Recording Film developed with something like Acufine or Diafine, maybe even Rodinal, given rough, aggressive agitation with minimal care paid to temperture between developer, stop, fix, and rinse, somewhat under developed (or even a bit underexposed), and printed on a hard paper. The same scene made with an ultra fine grained film, like Technical Pan or something similar, using a developer that promotes acutance and fine grain, and printed on a softer paper, will render the same scene completely differently. You may not even recognize 'em at 16x20 sizes I'm not trying to argue, but rather just point out that the degree and type of grain can be a substantial creative tool. The problem today is that there aren't that many films to choose from with which you can easily make such gross manipulations of a photographs feel and intent, although it is certainly possible, and many, if not most, contemporary photographers aren't familiar with the possibilities or skilled in their use. Too many photogs are taking the homogenous method of using chromogenic film for their B&W work instead of learning real B&W techniques, thereby losing substantial interpretive and creative possibilities, where Juan wanted to add grain to his pics to make them look more like Tri-X. Of course, if grain were not such an interesting creative tool, numerous digital photographer might not give much thought to adding grain to their images ... which brings us back full circle to the start of this thread. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Ah thanks, it's a strange thing this grain issue, it's certainly a treatment > but I don't feel that it's a tool in the same sense as destauration or > saturating an image is. Grain or lack thereof is generally a consequence of the > process whereas printing a colour image to greyscale can completely alter the > focus and meaning of the image. For instance the colour version of my image > (which you commented upon) is dominiated by a red hat and competeing skin tones > in the mid and foreground.
Re: Cliffs Near Hasan's Cave
Great light and wonderful sky - they make this image. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Patrick Genovese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 6:27 PM Subject: PESO: Cliffs Near Hasan's Cave > Taken near Hasan's Cave on Malta's Southern coast one very very cold > Sunday (late) afteroon. Equipment MZ-S + FA50 1.4 + Tripod - Media Fuji > Velvia 50 > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2941279 > > Comments & Critique Welcome. > > Patrick > >
Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement
Bill Rob asked, > Mike, are you presuming that yer basic orchestra (or even a very good > one) has the same dollar value of input costs compared to a large > crew of software engineers playing with really expensive computers? Hmm, Well a musician playing with a good orchestra probably has gone through at least fifteen years of very expensive one-on-one training. And the man hours necessary to prepare for a performance are mind boggling. Consider as well that a good violin sells for about $7000. At least as much as a good computer. Input costs for serious music are considerable.
Re: A couple of PESOs
Mr. Robb, caused the following to appear on my crt have a real problem with straight horizons unless I am shooting > off a tripod. I just can't seem to hold a camera straight. To which I replied A "golden" grid in my view finder has helped to eliminate/reduce this problem for me. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 10:40 PM Subject: Re: A couple of PESOs > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 9:28 PM > Subject: Re: A couple of PESOs > > > > The cat and dog are priceless. Nice shot. I like the warm feeling > > of the window light, and of course the pose is fabulous. Good work. > > Thanks. They spent a lot of time like that. All I had to do was grab > a camera and shoot. > > > The wire towers are neat, but i'd like to see the shot rotated > > about 1 degree counterclockwise. But then again, I'm a little bit > > obsessive about those verticals. > > I have a real problem with straight horizons unless I am shooting > off a tripod. I just can't seem to hold a camera straight. > > Thanks for looking > > William Robb > > > > > >
Re: Here's an idea for the holidays ...
Shel Belinkoff mused: > > This suggestion was posted on another list. The idea seems like a good > one. The key is doing it in your own neighborhood. What say ye? > > Just for kicks one night over this next week lets all try to take a > walk around our neighborhoods and make some photos of the Christmas > lights to be found there...no where that you have to drive too...just > what is right where you live...then post these photos on line > somewhere.might be fun to see what all is like around each of us. I think you're being a little too restrictive. There's a whole lot of the world (even limiting it to the part that celebrates Christmas :-) that isn't within casual walking distance for the group membership. I'm not suggesting people take it to ridiculous extremes, but going five or ten miles from the house is still close enough for a group as wide-spread as this one, with members across the globe.
Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement
- Original Message - From: "Larry Levy" Subject: Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement Mike, If you think you paid too much money for dodgy software, demand your money back and return the product. Just because Ford Explorers were prone to rollover when Firestones were mounted.. I read in some magazine sitting at work that the Explorer problem was Fords insistence on not re-engineering (purist, har) the suspension, and then compounding it by choosing inadequate tires (the Firestones were actually a passenger car tire, not a light truck tire) and recommending low air pressures. I read this sometime after Firestone had taken it on the chin for the problem. I do not purport this to be either true or false, I am just tossing it out there as something I had gleaned at some point. William Robb
Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative
- Original Message - From: "Juan Buhler" Subject: Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative Haven't had experience with the Intuous. I just took delivery of an Intuos 3 6x8 tablet. So far, I am pretty ecstatic with it. William Robb
Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement
Their const would be significantly lower per unit. Not necessarily your cost... William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "mike wilson" Subject: Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement Not sure I agree with you (I don't think the photographer analogy stands up at all) and I still don't understand why music CDs are so much cheaper, given the development costs are similar. If pirating was causing high prices, recorded music prices should be astronomical. What is keeping the price high is that people are willing to pay it. I don't understand why you are trying to make a connection between music CDs and software. Other than that they are both on little plastic discs, they don't really have much in common. I helped "develop" a music CD a couple of years ago. It was a buddy of mine recording a buddy of his' music. The development cost was a couple of cases of beer, plus materials. We did pretty good too. Anyway, if my friend the Photoshop instructo is correct in his assertion that Adobe has sold about 1 in every 10 copies that are in use, (an I see no reason to doubt him), I don't see how you can argue that pirating isn't causing a problem. If they could sell half of what is in use, the price would most likely be significantly lower per unit. William Robb -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: Digital grain (was Re: PESO My type of photographer)
Academic writing can sound unnatural out of context. But it's accurate, and that can be important in some cases. Mating a plural pronoun with a singular antecedent is never appropriate or accurate, and it's not a good solution to gender sensitivity. Gender in English pronouns really has nothing more to do with female/male issues than do gender specific noun endings in Spanish. That was my only point. I'm not suggesting that we should "eschew" conversational English. But the gender sensitivity issue is nonsense. And if the gd queen wants to go to parliment, well then, hell, let her go to parliment. But you probably ought to keep her away from parliament . > Yes, it makes you sound like you think the queen should have a seat in > parliment. Even the queen herself does not believe that anymore. > > graywolf > http://www.graywolfphoto.com > "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" > --- > > > > > Bob W wrote: > > > > > As usual it's a question of register and of what is appropriate for > > the situation. I'm not American or academic enough to know much about > > it, but in general one eschews both 'one' and 'eschew' in British > > English these days. It sounds rather pompous, unnatural and old-fashioned. > > >
Re: D questions
Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 8/12/04, Norman Baugher, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>Cotty taught us to read with our eyes closed at GFM using flash >>trickeryoh well, what do you expect from someone who has Star Trek >>figurines hanging on his Christmas tree. > >Norm, you're gonna get a flash colonic if you're not careful! You can't get a flash colonic unless your browser has the correct plug-in. So to speak... -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: D questions
- Original Message - From: "David Zaninovic" Subject: Re: D questions Autofocusing in dim light sucks even with AF assist using flash, I use Canon S45 for wild parties anyway. Amazingly P&S has better If the P&S camera has active AF, it isn't surprising that it is better than a passive AF system in low light. William Robb
Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement
- Original Message - From: "mike wilson" Subject: Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement John Francis wrote: If an orchestra only gave one performance every three years (or if they gave up public performances, and tried to survive solely on CD sales) you'd be paying a lot more that $600 for a ticket or for that CD. I get the impression that most of the larger, more famous orchestras get most of their income from recorded music sales. They do that by selling at low profit, high turnover. Mike, are you presuming that yer basic orchestra (or even a very good one) has the same dollar value of input costs compared to a large crew of software engineers playing with really expensive computers? William Robb
Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement
- Original Message - From: "mike wilson" Subject: Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement No I'm not. My argument was based on an orchestra, that has years of training and months of development costs for a performace. The higher pay is a function of the higher retail price which is a function of the amount customers are willing to pay. Or believe they need to. A lot of orchestra musicians have a day job, and are amateur musicians. A lot of orchestras are getting arts grants, offsetting the cost of operation. Most orchestras put on the occasional concert, for which they are paid. Most orchestras (like all musicians) get a royalty for every time they sell a CD, or even get played on the radio. Most software writers (at the Photoshop level) are professional writers. It's all they do for a living. Very few, if any, software companies are getting government grants. Software companies do trade shows and the like, at which they may sell some product, but otherwise don't get paid for. Once a piece of software is sold, that's pretty much it, except for those that collect ongoing licensing fees. I don't suppose there are all that many of those. Your arguments don't hold up, I am afraid. William Robb
Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement
- Original Message - From: "mike wilson" Subject: Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement Not sure I agree with you (I don't think the photographer analogy stands up at all) and I still don't understand why music CDs are so much cheaper, given the development costs are similar. If pirating was causing high prices, recorded music prices should be astronomical. What is keeping the price high is that people are willing to pay it. I don't understand why you are trying to make a connection between music CDs and software. Other than that they are both on little plastic discs, they don't really have much in common. I helped "develop" a music CD a couple of years ago. It was a buddy of mine recording a buddy of his' music. The development cost was a couple of cases of beer, plus materials. We did pretty good too. Anyway, if my friend the Photoshop instructo is correct in his assertion that Adobe has sold about 1 in every 10 copies that are in use, (an I see no reason to doubt him), I don't see how you can argue that pirating isn't causing a problem. If they could sell half of what is in use, the price would most likely be significantly lower per unit. William Robb
Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative I really wasn't looking for automated tools. Are you using a mouse or a tablet? This took just a few minutes with a pen and tablet: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/PDMLtemp/sample.jpg William Robb
RE: PESO: In the Art Gallery
I couldn't help myself, Frank http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/frankpic.html Shel > [Original Message] > From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > File this one under "missed it by ~that~ much" (as Agent 86 used to say): > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2941715
Re: Digital grain (was Re: PESO My type of photographer)
Yes, it makes you sound like you think the queen should have a seat in parliment. Even the queen herself does not believe that anymore. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- Bob W wrote: As usual it's a question of register and of what is appropriate for the situation. I'm not American or academic enough to know much about it, but in general one eschews both 'one' and 'eschew' in British English these days. It sounds rather pompous, unnatural and old-fashioned.
Re: Paw: Fall colours #2
On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 19:04:46 -0500, frank theriault wrote: > Or, you'll be like me, and keep doing the same > thing anyway I'm sure you know that's one definition of insanity. :-) TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
Purists: (Was Digital grain)
On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 19:00:25 -0500, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Very true. Even the New York Times, that bastion of American > liberalism, uses the third person masculine pronoun when the gender is > non-specific. Anything else is silly and awkward. I always liked s/h/it. :-) TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative
On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 15:34:25 -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > While I'd like a Wacom (it's on my Hanukah list ) I'm not familiar > enough with it to know how much better it would be than a mouse for this > and similar projects. There are other scenarios where it's benefit is > quite obvious. Guess I just need to get one and see for myself which tool > is better for what situations. Which might you recommend - the Intuos or > the Graphire (I think those are the models)? Thanks! Once you try the tablet, you'll never go back. I have the Intuos2 4" x 5". When I bought it, I feared it'd be too small. As it turns out, it's the right size for me. I almost never have to actually pick up my hand and move it, unless I have it in "absolute coordinates" mode. Even when I'm not using the pen, I prefer the Intuos mouse to a normal wheel mouse. I haven't tried an optical at home, but it would probably suffer the same problems as a wheel mouse: cigarette smoke and cat hair/dander. :-) TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
Re: Russian pancake portrait lens
Touche... :-) On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 19:20:29 -0500, Peter J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's how I feel about the *ist-D... > > > > Juan Buhler wrote: > > >On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 12:41:05 -0500, Peter J. Alling > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>You can get almost the same effect with a chrome 43ltd on it. (Sorry no > >>pictures since I don't have an *ist-D) > >> > >> > > > >Ah, but the "effect" in your bank account is very different in that case! > > > >:-) > > > > > > > > > > -- > I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. > During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings > and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during > peacetime. > --P.J. O'Rourke > > -- Juan Buhler http://www.jbuhler.com blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog
Re: Digital grain (was Re: PESO My type of photographer)
In historic English "his" is the non-gender specific useage in this case... Jon Glass wrote: On Dec 8, 2004, at 6:56 PM, Peter J. Alling wrote: I thought a purist drank "his" coffee black. (A purist also uses the proper non-gender specific pronoun in English as well). Actually, that was the joke... but as I understand English, a purist would stick to the historical understanding of the English language, and not allow his language to be "trendy" either... -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: Digital grain (was Re: PESO My type of photographer)
Hi, Thursday, December 9, 2004, 12:33:42 AM, Paul wrote: > I'm surprised that the Brits are more willing to bend the rules of > grammar than are the Americans in regard to use of the plural pronoun > "their" with a singular antecedent. I would guess that this is only > true of informal communication. I wouldn't be surprised if the London > Times subscribes to the same policy as the NY Times. Nothing about The Times would surprise me. It is a Murdoch paper, after all. In the last 10-15 years I've only read it once - about 2 weeks ago when I bought it by accident. It didn't seem much like a guardian of traditional grammatical values. > In American > academic writing, addressing the reader as "you" is eschewed. Instead, > the pronoun "one" is preferred: As usual it's a question of register and of what is appropriate for the situation. I'm not American or academic enough to know much about it, but in general one eschews both 'one' and 'eschew' in British English these days. It sounds rather pompous, unnatural and old-fashioned. -- Cheers, Bob
Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative
Hi John ... I have Vuescan, and maybe I'll give it a try on B&W just for kicks. You're ever so right that the interface is clunky One of the PS gurus at a lab I sometimes used suggested the graphire as well, even though he uses the Intuos at work. He feels that it's more than adequate for most jobs. Yellowknife, eh! I got up there a few years ago on my drive to Alaska. The place looked remote enough that a detour off the AlCan seemed like a good idea. How I love that area. Unfortunately, I was expected in Alaska and couldn't spend but a short time there, however, I'd sure like to go back again. Thanks, John ... Shel > [Original Message] > From: John Poirier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > You might want to try Hamrick Vuescan [...] > Regarding graphics tablets, I've used a basic Graphire 4x5 USB tablet for a > number of years. > John Poirier > Yellowknife > Northwest Territories
Re: Flash Brackets & 5P Flashes
I'm looking for a decent and hopefully not ridiculously expensive flash bracket to mount may af-500FTZ off camera to end up with a handle mount type setup like the 400t. I'm interested in doing contrast control flash with the 500ftz and the built in flash on the MZ-S. I'v already got the necessary 5P cord and hot shoe adapter that allows the popup flash to open properly. Any suggestions for a flash bracket ? Tnx Patrick The Monfrotto/Bogen macro bracket is cheap and would probably do the job. http://www.adorama.com/BG3278B.html Cheers, Andre
Awful noises from my PZ-1
Out of the blue, my much-used PZ-1 has started making an ugly grinding noise when the film winds after an exposure. Actually, it makes the noise whether there is film in the camera or not. It sounds as though it is coming from behind and a bit below the shutter release. Rewind sounds normal. Any ideas what this might be and what it might cost to fix it? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
RE: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative
Shel I missed a lot of this and this technique may already be known to you, but if not here it is. The best technique I have found in Photoshop is to use the automated tools and place the history brush memory on that history event. Then back up a step prior to the automated event in history. Select the history brush and set the settings. Simply now brush in the effects of the automated tool only where it needs them thus not damaging the quality of the good parts of the image. Email me off list if your interested in some plug-ins. Dave > -Original Message- > From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 6:49 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative > > > It's actually coming along rather well, although it does require a lot of > detail work. Imagine scratches across faces, big white splotches on skin, > lots of specks on clothing, all combined with a poorly exposed (burnt > highlights, deep shadows, bright sun) and badly processed negative. 'Tis > quite a challenge. At some point I'll put up the original, if ever I get > it completed. > > Shel > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Jostein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Actually, I think that your best friend will be planning, but it's > > hard to give any specific advice from the small section you posted. > > In principle, I would have tried to work within each structure in the > > pic first, and then do the edges between them last. > > If not pixel by pixel, it looks a big job no matter how. :-( > >
Re: Digital grain (was Re: PESO My type of photographer)
I'm surprised that the Brits are more willing to bend the rules of grammar than are the Americans in regard to use of the plural pronoun "their" with a singular antecedent. I would guess that this is only true of informal communication. I wouldn't be surprised if the London Times subscribes to the same policy as the NY Times. In American academic writing, addressing the reader as "you" is eschewed. Instead, the pronoun "one" is preferred: Purists always hyphenate correctly. If one is a purist, one always hyphenates correctly. On Dec 8, 2004, at 7:14 PM, Bob W wrote: Hi, I thought a purist drank "his" coffee black. (A purist also uses the proper non-gender specific pronoun in English as well). Very true. Even the New York Times, that bastion of American liberalism, uses the third person masculine pronoun when the gender is non-specific. Anything else is silly and awkward. Paul it seems to have become quite acceptable in British English to use 'their' rather than 'his' in this sort of situation. I use both, but I prefer not to paint myself into such a corner that I have to make the choice. Usually you can rewrite it, and often improve it, by addressing the reader as 'you', or by putting the whole thing into the plural. Examples: proper non-gender specific pronoun Purists always hyphenate correctly. If you're a purist you always hyphenate correctly. -- Cheers, Bob
Here's an idea for the holidays ...
This suggestion was posted on another list. The idea seems like a good one. The key is doing it in your own neighborhood. What say ye? Just for kicks one night over this next week lets all try to take a walk around our neighborhoods and make some photos of the Christmas lights to be found there...no where that you have to drive too...just what is right where you live...then post these photos on line somewhere.might be fun to see what all is like around each of us. Shel
Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative
Hi, Shel You might want to try Hamrick Vuescan (aftermarket scanning software) on this one. Vuescan has a scratch and dust removal function that uses the scanner hardware that is also used for ICE, but apparently with different algorithms. It often works where ICE won't; more often than not it works with black and white negs. When it doesn't work, the result is often loss of image detail in portions of the image. Trial version of Vuescan is available as a free download from http://www.hamrick.com. Fully functional, but watermarks images. The license is a bargain for $80 US for four machines, free upgrades. The interface may seem clunky at first, but it gets the job done very nicely. A couple of hints: -Selecting the "advanced" option for each function tab gives you a lot more choices for important settings -scratch and dust removal is accessed via the Filter tab. I generally use "light" but you can play with the other levels. The trick is to get as much cleanup as you can without too many obvious artifacts. You should examine the entire image to check results as artifacts can be localized depending on grain structure. In a situation like yours you won't be able to get everything with Vuescan, but chances of a significant reduction of finer scratches are good. Regarding graphics tablets, I've used a basic Graphire 4x5 USB tablet for a number of years. Works just fine for me for cleaning up scratches and dust, and cheap. An excellent way to help prevent repetitive stress injuries due to excessive mousing. In my experience a pen can be much faster and more accurate than a mouse- with practice. I work in archives and spend much of my time scanning photos for public use. I don't do major restorations, as that can be done elsewheres. However, I do a lot of discreet dust and scratch cleanup , usually as a courtesy to NWT residents wanting old pics of family members- a very common thing. Your neg is typical of what I run into in the old stuff. I've tried the Polaroid software very briefly but didn't find it that useful. I just stick to a combination of cloning and healing. Cheers John Poirier Yellowknife Northwest Territories . - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 4:34 PM Subject: Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative > While I'd like a Wacom (it's on my Hanukah list ) I'm not familiar > enough with it to know how much better it would be than a mouse for this > and similar projects. There are other scenarios where it's benefit is > quite obvious. Guess I just need to get one and see for myself which tool > is better for what situations. Which might you recommend - the Intuos or > the Graphire (I think those are the models)? Thanks! > > Shel > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Juan Buhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Shel, the most meaningful advice I can give is, get a Wacom tablet or > > similar if you don't have one. > > > > Doing such fix with a mouse would be a huge nightmare. > >
Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.
Well I was once the photo editor on a very very bad little rag. I had to write quite a few photo captions, (unfortunately the editor in chief often overruled me, who knows they might still be in business...). Cotty wrote: On 7/12/04, Peter J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: Cotty takes a hacksaw to the K mount and forceably grafts the alien eos mount to them... Peter would make an excellent headline-writer for a UK tabloid newspaper or The National Enquirer. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative
It, (digital ICE), doesn't work with B&W. You might try using the "Polaroid Dust and Scratch Removal" program from http://www.polaroid.com/service/software/poladsr/poladsr.html I think it's only supposed to be available to owners of Polaroid digital products but I simply bypassed their survey page and they let me download it. It works stand alone and as a Photoshop plug in. There's a fair amount of control, what I usually do is try to find a good compromise between detail and dust and scratch removal then retouch what's left with the various Photoshop tools. I don't feel particularly guilty about not having any Polaroid digital products. after all the software is "free", and I've bought enough Polaroid products in the past... Joseph Tainter wrote: Wow indeed. Shel, I've had bad scans come out looking like this (in part -- not the whole image). I don't know of shortcuts for this kind of situation. It can take hours of retouching. I would say try a scanner with Digital ICE, but I'm not sure that works with B&W film. I could be wrong. Perhaps ask your pro lab. Joe -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: Digital grain (was Re: PESO My type of photographer)
Hi, > Examples: >> proper non-gender specific pronoun > Purists always hyphenate correctly. If you're a purist you always > hyphenate correctly. Damn! I just re-read that and I was so caught up in my own smart-arsiness that my example didn't address the original problem. A purist re-reads before he hits 'Send'. I mean, purists re-read before they hit 'Send'. If you're a purist, you re-read before you hit 'Send'. -- Cheers, Bob
Re: Digital grain (was Re: PESO My type of photographer)
Hi, >>> I thought a purist drank "his" coffee black. (A purist also uses the >>> proper non-gender specific pronoun in English as well). >>> >>> > Very true. Even the New York Times, that bastion of American > liberalism, uses the third person masculine pronoun when the gender is > non-specific. Anything else is silly and awkward. > Paul it seems to have become quite acceptable in British English to use 'their' rather than 'his' in this sort of situation. I use both, but I prefer not to paint myself into such a corner that I have to make the choice. Usually you can rewrite it, and often improve it, by addressing the reader as 'you', or by putting the whole thing into the plural. Examples: > proper non-gender specific pronoun Purists always hyphenate correctly. If you're a purist you always hyphenate correctly. -- Cheers, Bob
Re: Russian pancake portrait lens
That's how I feel about the *ist-D... Juan Buhler wrote: On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 12:41:05 -0500, Peter J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You can get almost the same effect with a chrome 43ltd on it. (Sorry no pictures since I don't have an *ist-D) Ah, but the "effect" in your bank account is very different in that case! :-) -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement
Mike, If you think you paid too much money for dodgy software, demand your money back and return the product. Just because Ford Explorers were prone to rollover when Firestones were mounted (certainly worse than the dodgy software you're refering to), didn't mean people were entitled to steal them. Same thing with software licenses. Larry Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 22:18:39 + From: mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Francis wrote: If an orchestra only gave one performance every three years (or if they gave up public performances, and tried to survive solely on CD sales) you'd be paying a lot more that $600 for a ticket or for that CD. I get the impression that most of the larger, more famous orchestras get most of their income from recorded music sales. They do that by selling at low profit, high turnover. In any case, your legal choice is whether or not to buy the product. If the company sets the price too high then there is an opportunity for somebody else to step in and sell a comparable product for less. Rationalise it as much as you like, but at the end of the day you're stealing something because you don't want to pay the purchase price. The point I'm trying to make is that I think software organisations could make similar profits by using the same model as orchestras. It's only because the buyers are conditioned to buying at high price that they think it is neccessary. Where buyers have refused to pay the high prices and resorted to mass piracy, the vendors have dramatically lowered their prices. Whether this is possible because they make such profits from "legitimate" sales that they can subsidise it is something I have no way of telling. Everywhere I look in business, there are exhortations to improve efficiency by reducing overheads and production costs. Funny how you can still pay top whack for software and it is as grotty as a (insert your favourite grotty thing here). Buggy, crashing, awkward, memory hogging junk most of it and it doesn't seem to matter what you pay. mike --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.805 / Virus Database: 547 - Release Date: 12/5/2004
Re: Paw: Fall colours #2
On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 07:51:18 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks anyway Frank. > I really have a problem working with scanned images. Probably just going to > Paw from > digital from now > on. > > Dave > Oh, tish tosh, Dave!! Have you looked at my scans lately? Do you wonder why I work in B&W? It's one less thing ~not~ to worry about!! I'm consistently dissatisfied with the amount of detail I can get from my scans, especially when looking at the print - there's just so much more there to see. Have you read any of Shel's comments of my PAWs? They almost all come down to, "frank my boy, your scans look like crap!" And, he's right. Don't sweat it, Dave. As Shel said somewhere else, keep it up - you'll learn from it. Or, you'll be like me, and keep doing the same thing anyway cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
RE: ist D/DA 16-45 rebate, did anyone get theirs?
The number I called was 800-241-6805. This is Pentax in Loveland, CO. I asked for the "Rebate Lady". Was told she'd get right back to me. Don't know where the rebate lady called back from. Good Luck! Don > -Original Message- > From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 6:04 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: ist D/DA 16-45 rebate, did anyone get theirs? > > > "Don Sanderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >I just got a phone call from the company handling the rebates > >for Pentax saying "The check's in the mail". :-/ > >We'll see > > Got that phone number handy? I'm still waiting for a rebate on some > Pentax binoculars I bought back in August. > > -- > Mark Roberts > Photography and writing > www.robertstech.com >
Re: Digital grain (was Re: PESO My type of photographer)
On Dec 8, 2004, at 5:36 PM, Jon Glass wrote: I thought a purist drank "his" coffee black. (A purist also uses the proper non-gender specific pronoun in English as well). Very true. Even the New York Times, that bastion of American liberalism, uses the third person masculine pronoun when the gender is non-specific. Anything else is silly and awkward. Paul
Re: Need software suggestion for slide show w/ music
a program which i bought but yet have to do anything with is Photostory on CD and DVD. it's cheap and can make CD-i and DVD video interactive slide shows with synchronized music. the thing i don't like about Premiere is that it commits you to a single path through the images because it creates an ordinary movie. you start the show and run it until it ends. that is it, except when you pause it. Herb... - Original Message - From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Herb Chong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 9:53 AM Subject: Re: Need software suggestion for slide show w/ music > On top of that, it won't burn a dvd and play on a regular dvd player, only on a > computer.
Re: PESO: A Quiet Stroll
Nice shot. Good job balancing the highlights and shadows. Paul On Dec 8, 2004, at 5:03 PM, Patrick Genovese wrote: Taken in Valletta, Malta's capital http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2943850 Comments welcome. Patrick
Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative
It's actually coming along rather well, although it does require a lot of detail work. Imagine scratches across faces, big white splotches on skin, lots of specks on clothing, all combined with a poorly exposed (burnt highlights, deep shadows, bright sun) and badly processed negative. 'Tis quite a challenge. At some point I'll put up the original, if ever I get it completed. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Jostein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Actually, I think that your best friend will be planning, but it's > hard to give any specific advice from the small section you posted. > In principle, I would have tried to work within each structure in the > pic first, and then do the edges between them last. > If not pixel by pixel, it looks a big job no matter how. :-(
Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative
I have the Graphire, which I got several year ago. It was cheap (I think around $100), and really, I can't imagine doing that kind of work without it. Haven't had experience with the Intuous. j On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 15:34:25 -0800, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While I'd like a Wacom (it's on my Hanukah list ) I'm not familiar > enough with it to know how much better it would be than a mouse for this > and similar projects. There are other scenarios where it's benefit is > quite obvious. Guess I just need to get one and see for myself which tool > is better for what situations. Which might you recommend - the Intuos or > the Graphire (I think those are the models)? Thanks! > > Shel > > > [Original Message] > > From: Juan Buhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Shel, the most meaningful advice I can give is, get a Wacom tablet or > > similar if you don't have one. > > > > Doing such fix with a mouse would be a huge nightmare. > > -- Juan Buhler http://www.jbuhler.com blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog
Re: ist D/DA 16-45 rebate, did anyone get theirs?
"Don Sanderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I just got a phone call from the company handling the rebates >for Pentax saying "The check's in the mail". :-/ >We'll see Got that phone number handy? I'm still waiting for a rebate on some Pentax binoculars I bought back in August. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: eBays new "Questions from other buyers" thingy.
Have watched this happen often since the change. This is becoming inflationary! Contact Greenspan! - Original Message - From: "Don Sanderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PDML" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 7:44 AM Subject: eBays new "Questions from other buyers" thingy. > So, a guy has a "Takumar" lens for sale on eekBay. > I ask him whether it's Auto, Super or SMC. > He responds SMC, great. > But now ALL the buyers can see this on the auction page. > The price'll go way up. > Don doesn't get his super, devious, informed, clever, good deal. > Poor, poor me. :-( > Has anyone discovered a "super, devious, informed, clever" way > around this? > I'm not sure I like the idea of an informed person raising the > price for sellers just by asking the right questions. > > Perhaps instead, I should have asked for a better pic of the > front of the lens? (Doh!) > > Don (Sulking now, not nearly as clever as I thought.) > >
Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative
While I'd like a Wacom (it's on my Hanukah list ) I'm not familiar enough with it to know how much better it would be than a mouse for this and similar projects. There are other scenarios where it's benefit is quite obvious. Guess I just need to get one and see for myself which tool is better for what situations. Which might you recommend - the Intuos or the Graphire (I think those are the models)? Thanks! Shel > [Original Message] > From: Juan Buhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Shel, the most meaningful advice I can give is, get a Wacom tablet or > similar if you don't have one. > > Doing such fix with a mouse would be a huge nightmare.
Re: "Fake" vs "Real" effects
On 8 Dec 2004 at 12:24, Mark Erickson wrote: > Anyway, I hope this provides a different perspective and maybe some food for > thought. If anyone is interested, I'll try to make a couple of my "digital > lith" images available on the web tonight. Very interesting, reminds me a little of the guy who was making exhibition quality toned platinum/palladium prints by contact printing specially crafted digital files out of a Linotronic images setter. http://www.bostick-sullivan.com/Technical_papers/digital%20info/dave_fokos/fokos.pdf > P.S. Regarding Rob's excellent image, I like it very much as it is. The > smooth tones and crispness give it more of a grainless "large-format" feel to > me. Adding grain would give it a different look that may or may not work--I'd > have to see it, I guess. Ah thanks, it's a strange thing this grain issue, it's certainly a treatment but I don't feel that it's a tool in the same sense as destauration or saturating an image is. Grain or lack thereof is generally a consequence of the process whereas printing a colour image to greyscale can completely alter the focus and meaning of the image. For instance the colour version of my image (which you commented upon) is dominiated by a red hat and competeing skin tones in the mid and foreground. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative
On 8/12/04, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed: >Shel, the most meaningful advice I can give is, get a Wacom tablet and looking at that scan again I'd swallow the tablet with a large Scotch :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative
Actually, I think that your best friend will be planning, but it's hard to give any specific advice from the small section you posted. In principle, I would have tried to work within each structure in the pic first, and then do the edges between them last. If not pixel by pixel, it looks a big job no matter how. :-( Jostein - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 11:58 PM Subject: Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative > Please see my response to Patrick. I'm coming to the conclusion that just > slogging through this mess almost pixel by pixel (LOL) is the only way to > go. > > Shel > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Jostein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Think there's only hard work that can save that one, Shel. > > Jostein > >
Re: Stofen Omni-Bounce Question
Hi Joe, I bought one for my 360fgz and remember it could slide on and stop at the ridge naturally. If you encouraged it, it went a bit past that. Is that what you're referring to? I haven't got mine with me so I can't check. Good thing with digital is you can try it out and let the results speak for themselves :) Cheers, Ryan - Original Message - From: "Joseph Tainter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pdml" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 6:32 PM Subject: Stofen Omni-Bounce Question > The instructions that came with it said to position it about half-way > on. No explanation, or course. > > What is the difference if I push it on all the way? > > Thanks, > > Joe > >
OT: Blunkett (was: Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.)
- Original Message - From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I read the other day that the Washington Post headline over their > piece about the Blunkett affair was "London britches falling down". > LOL. Poor Blunkett. Veered off and straight into the ticket (ok... poor pun. apologies for not being able to resist...) Jostein
Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative
Shel, the most meaningful advice I can give is, get a Wacom tablet or similar if you don't have one. Doing such fix with a mouse would be a huge nightmare. j On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 14:57:06 -0800, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I really wasn't looking for automated tools. There are a number of > techniques that one may use in PS that go beyond the simple use of clone, > healing brush, and patch tool. I was hoping there might be some options > I'd overlooked or am not familiar with, like Katrin Eismann's "Float and > Move" technique (which is pretty difficult and time consuming on this > particular image) or the relatively obscure "Healing with a Pattern" > technique, which I couldn't get to work worth a damn on this particular > image. > > It's a tricky bit of work since I'm not well skilled, and the need to > preserve fine detail and match grain patterns precludes a lot of options. > You should see what the entire image looks like! Anyway, this puppy better > be worth it ... well, it is for me because I'm learning and because I like > the photo on several levels. > > Shel > > > [Original Message] > > From: Patrick Genovese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > I agree with Jostien, I don't think that you're going to get better > > results using any automated tools. > > -- Juan Buhler http://www.jbuhler.com blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog
Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative
Please see my response to Patrick. I'm coming to the conclusion that just slogging through this mess almost pixel by pixel (LOL) is the only way to go. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Jostein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Think there's only hard work that can save that one, Shel. > Jostein
Re: Happy Hannukah
On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 13:57:14 -0800, Keith Whaley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I suggest you look at, or better yet read, the book "What Darwin Didn't > Know" by Geoffrey Simmons, M.D. > subtitled "A Doctor Dissects the Theory of Evolution." > Take your honesty pills beforehand, and really read it for making > intellectual sense out of it. [I can see this going into a huge off-topic war. Further answer from me will be off line] "Honesty pills"? Why would anyone be biased one way or the other? Evolution (it's a mistake to call it Darwinism) is the theory that better explains what we observe. That's all the merit it has, besides making a lot of sense in the minds of people who have studied biology or played with evolutionary algorithms. There's actually no meaningful way to relate evolution, a worldly, pedestrian, mundane scientific theory, to the "question of deity", because that question is non-scientific, ie, able to dodge any rational argument we throw at it. At first glance it looks like a book from someone pushing Intelligent Design, which isn't really a scientific theory. > It's an easy read, and an iintellectual eye-opener. No, really. > I'm a tough one, and it opened my mind to the winds... > > If you do, tell me what you thought of it. > I'm always open to a discussion, privately or not. I'll try to find a copy and read it. j -- Juan Buhler http://www.jbuhler.com blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog
Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative
I really wasn't looking for automated tools. There are a number of techniques that one may use in PS that go beyond the simple use of clone, healing brush, and patch tool. I was hoping there might be some options I'd overlooked or am not familiar with, like Katrin Eismann's "Float and Move" technique (which is pretty difficult and time consuming on this particular image) or the relatively obscure "Healing with a Pattern" technique, which I couldn't get to work worth a damn on this particular image. It's a tricky bit of work since I'm not well skilled, and the need to preserve fine detail and match grain patterns precludes a lot of options. You should see what the entire image looks like! Anyway, this puppy better be worth it ... well, it is for me because I'm learning and because I like the photo on several levels. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Patrick Genovese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I agree with Jostien, I don't think that you're going to get better > results using any automated tools.
RE: ist D/DA 16-45 rebate, did anyone get theirs?
I just got a phone call from the company handling the rebates for Pentax saying "The check's in the mail". :-/ We'll see Don > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 12:44 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: ist D/DA 16-45 rebate, did anyone get theirs? > > > I didn't get mine. I was going to ask here as well. I was very > careful to complete all the forms and include all the bar codes. > I hope we don't get stiffed. > Paul > > > > Going on 9 weeks and 3 phone calls. > > Still no 200 bucks! > > Did anyone else get theirs yet? > > > > Don > > >
Re: Digital grain (was Re: PESO My type of photographer)
On Dec 8, 2004, at 6:56 PM, Peter J. Alling wrote: I thought a purist drank "his" coffee black. (A purist also uses the proper non-gender specific pronoun in English as well). Actually, that was the joke... but as I understand English, a purist would stick to the historical understanding of the English language, and not allow his language to be "trendy" either... -- -Jon Glass Krakow, Poland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: PAW Something different for me
On 8 Dec 2004 at 15:58, Mark Roberts wrote: > Have you tried desaturating it completely? I suspect it might be really > good as a B&W shot. Hi Mark, Just made a new RAW conversion and a Q&D B&W conversion, not that pleased with the current result but I agree there is plenty of scope in it. http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/IMGP5212.jpg http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/IMGP5212gs.jpg On 8 Dec 2004 at 13:11, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > I think the biggest problem with the eyes is that there are 4 catchlights, > each of a different color. The two in the right eye are very different, > too much so imo. Also, the one in the lower corner of the left eye is too > big. In addition, there's a spot on the nose that's too bright, and a > small reflection from the subject's fingernail on the finger against his > cheek. Plus there are two or four pixels (didn't actually count them) in > two places on the bridge of the nose. So, I fiddled with the catchlights, > removed the fingernail reflection, toned down the bright spot on the nose, > and removed those two or four annoying pixels. > > Take a look: http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/robs-pics.jpg Thanks for taking the time to do this. The four or so catch-light pixels in the right eye of the web image are actually my PC screen and desk-top, I've clipped and level adjusted a small 1:1 section here: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/IMGP5212eye.jpg I don't really have a problem with the bright spots on Dave's nose and nail in this second conversion, I think it looks OK, but the version that you commented on was a bit hot. I'll defer hear to your perspective on the updated images given that I'm really more at home shooting bugs :-) Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative
Shel, I agree with Jostien, I don't think that you're going to get better results using any automated tools. Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Think there's only hard work that can save that one, Shel. Jostein - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 7:18 PM Subject: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative Hi Gang, I've been working to eliminate spots, scratches, and imperfections on an old B&W negative that has not been treated well. Here's a sample section: http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/sample.jpg (50K file size) Thus far I've been fiddling with this using the clone tool, healing brush, and patch tool, and working sometimes on large areas and some very small spots of only two or three pixels in size. I'm wondering if there's a faster way to clean up this neg (considering there's lots of fine detail in many areas that needs to be preserved) than going in and using these spotting techniques. Thanks! Shel
Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative
Polaroid's 'Dust & Scratch Removal Software' is still available from their website. http://www.polaroid.com/service/software/poladsr/poladsr.html Versions for Mac and Windows available. Seems to do a reasonable job, but whether its heavy duty enough to handle Shel's scan is doubtful. -- Fred Widall, Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.ist.uwaterloo.ca/~fwwidall --
Re: PESO: A Quiet Stroll
Hi Keith, Thanks for your comments. Actually the archway detail needed a little tweak in PS to bring out the detail sufficiently. Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very nice, Patrick... I particularly like humans stuck in here and there, rather unobtrusively, for scale. Remove the stroller but leave all else, and the picture is flat. It adds character to the scene. Good shadow detail inside the archway, without blowing the sunlight on the other side. Well done. keith whaley Patrick Genovese wrote: Taken in Valletta, Malta's capital http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2943850 Comments welcome. Patrick
Re: Your best M42 mount lenses.
Hi, >>Cotty takes a hacksaw to the K mount and forceably grafts the alien eos >>mount to them... > Peter would make an excellent headline-writer for a UK tabloid newspaper > or The National Enquirer. I read the other day that the Washington Post headline over their piece about the Blunkett affair was "London britches falling down". -- Cheers, Bob
