Re: 2G Compact Flash Microdrive $129 and a $20 rebate
I realize that because a microdrive has moving parts while compact flash does not, there is more to go wrong, possibly. Probably more prone to shock. But for that price, if it lasted 1/2 as long as a CF card with the same capacity one would probably break even. I've had a 1G microdrive for 2+ years and it's still working fine. JMO Tom C. From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 2G Compact Flash Microdrive $129 and a $20 rebate Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 20:15:32 -0600 - Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: 2G Compact Flash Microdrive $129 and a $20 rebate http://www.adorama.com/IMTMD2GA.html $109 for 2G? OK it's a microdrive, but... I've used a 1G microdrive in the *istD and it has worked well. I noticed some difference in performance but this deal is pretty good. I don't trust the little buggers myself. OMMV William Robb
Canon's 8MPix cameraphone!!!
For the first time - Canon managed to combine high-end 8MPix DSLR with a phone!!! http://www.republika.pl/sylwekp/PAW/telefon_z_aparatem.jpg ;-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Tablets
After the discussion the other day about tablets I remembered that our industrial designer at work had a 12x12 Intuos2 gathering dust under his desk. He let me borrow it to take home, and I'm pleased to report that it is much less susceptible to interference than my Intuos 4x5. I get a little bit of wobble if I hold it right up to the screen, and this totally disappears when the tablet is only a few inches away (compared with about 12 spacing needed for the old tablet). If single mode is enabled in the driver the pointer does not wobble even if the tablet is right next to the screen. The Intuos2 pen is slightly more comfortable to hold - I find my hand to be a little more relaxed when holding it. At the moment I'm trying to choose between the following: 1) try and buy this tablet off the company 2) buy an Intuos3 6x8 3) buy an Intuos3 12x9 I'm leaning towards buying a brand new tablet as I could see the touch-panels of the Intuos3 series being useful for panning/zooming in Photoshop (has anyone used one of these?). This weekend I plan to play a bit with the big tablet: limit the active area in the driver to 6x8 and 12x9 and see if either of those sizes works better for me. The good thing about a bigger tablet is that it allows me to maintain tight control of the pointer over my entire 3200x1200 pixel desktop. I found I needed to limit the smaller tablet to about 1900x1200 so I needed the mouse to reach a few things with the window layout I use. Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
RE: PESO:a sample of a gold plated clay figure - Pentax Macro 50mm/SFxn
Hi William this is a very interesting idea, make them floating! I will soon try some of the hints given by this fantastic group. thanks a lot. greetings Markus Subject: Re: PESO:a sample of a gold plated clay figure - Pentax Macro 50mm/SFxn http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2964731 Softer light. If you want to something really special for her, take a piece of window glass and put a white cloth on it. Illuminate it from below at about the same, or a bit more brightness of the overhead light, which needs to be tented. This will give the illusion of the product floating in space. If you feel creative, start playing with gels on the bottom light. William Robb
Re: Proof if proof were needed
C I now know that one thing you can NEVER have too much of is shelf space C for books. If I go around the house and photograph all the books, you C wouldn't believe it. Even my son's bedroom has an overspill library two C shelves deep on one wall - and they're not his! :-) It helps if you keep some of the books not on shelves but in boxes... Some are unfortunately waiting still for more space in my room. Good inspiration for a library is the Elias Canetti's book Blinded (or how is it translated in English)! Good light! fra
Re: OK, I gotta ask!
On 16/12/04, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed: How the heck do *YOU* pronounce Boket? Like 'bucket' except with a looong 'o' :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO
On 16/12/04, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/peso/tree2004_with_flare.html Cotty, that is a bonafide flare on the hardwood floor. Taken with the A15mm at about 5 seconds. Christmas at the Robb's. Very nice mate. Ho-bloody-ho ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Re: Exif Analyser
No, it just means that you meditate on (= stare in baffled suprise at) the graphs, not the picture. Om. Buddha From: Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can see that digital has done away with the zen of photography. Ryan Lee wrote: Don't know if this is an old one, but here's a simple yet interesting tool which tells you about your shooting habits: http://www.csie.nctu.edu.tw/~ycdai/software/software_e.html - Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/
Re: OT: artful lens review
I find it rather pretentious and a bit silly. On Dec 17, 2004, at 12:05 AM, Mark Erickson wrote: I ran across this Erwin Puts review of a Leica lens and was struck by its artfully-crafted prose. I thought some of you might enjoy reading it also: http://www.imx.nl/photosite/leica/mseries/testm/m2-35.html Here are a few notable quotes: Leica is clearly practicing the art of perfection with its new generation lenses for the M line. Leica is competing against itself when introducing new lenses. Its images have the special Leica characteristic[...]: image clarity of a very high order. --Mark
Re: SV: The film is dead
Rob Studdert wrote: On 16 Dec 2004 at 16:00, Toralf Lund wrote: I wouldn't bet on that, though. If there's one thing the development of digital technology has taught us, it is that, well, it *develops*. Again it comes back to economies, the relative cost of silicon per area remains a constant, sensors that use larger areas of wafer will be significantly more expensive to produce for quite some years yet. Yes. The actual utilisation of the silicon has improved a bit over the years, though, hasn't it. Another question is how large a portion of the sensor price is raw material cost, anyway, and also how much of what you pay for the camera actually goes to the sensor producer. I haven't really tried to check lately... Unfortunately user changeable sensors isn't going to happen any day soon either. No, I don't think so, either. Actually, it doesn't seem like much of challenge from a technological view-point, but what's in it for the camera producers? Much better for them to sell people a new camera every time they want an upgraded sensor, of course. And the film companies don't seem interested in anything like this, either; I think if I were in charge film companies, I'd try to push *something* that might allow me to sell equipment to consumers again. However, I guess it still could make sense for one camera vendor to go in this direction at some point in order to position themselves in the market. Try to relate what you are suggesting back to other popular high technologies, most are now striving to quell upgrade paths. It might seem easy to implement but it would impact on the profitability of camera makers so it's not likely to be embraced. Film makers no longer dictate to the market, they are now simply parallel players, they have little market significance at the capture end of the process. Think 4/3 Sensor consortium and just how blazingly successful it's been since the launch fanfare. Yes. That's what I meant, more or less, when I said there isn't much in it for the camera producers. However, what I'm also saying, is that *maybe* you can hope that one of the camera makers will see upgradeability as enough of a selling point to make (economic) sense for that company, even though it's not good for the business as a whole. (And if one vendor does it, the others will possibly feel obliged to follow.) As for the traditional film makers, what I was referring to is that the same companies are to a certain extent the ones that make the digital sensors, but I guess they are not significant enough in that area to be able to call the shots. - Toralf
Re: SV: The film is dead
On 17 Dec 2004 at 10:33, Toralf Lund wrote: Yes. The actual utilisation of the silicon has improved a bit over the years, though, hasn't it. Yes, but not so much in the realms of digital imaging, photo-sites can't be continuously made more dense without compromise to image quality. Another question is how large a portion of the sensor price is raw material cost, anyway, and also how much of what you pay for the camera actually goes to the sensor producer. I haven't really tried to check lately... Quite a bit I'd assume, even APS sensors are a whopping bit of silicon relative to most other VLSI products, though I don't have $$$ figures. Yes. That's what I meant, more or less, when I said there isn't much in it for the camera producers. However, what I'm also saying, is that *maybe* you can hope that one of the camera makers will see upgradeability as enough of a selling point to make (economic) sense for that company, even though it's not good for the business as a whole. (And if one vendor does it, the others will possibly feel obliged to follow.) Well just citing our beloved Pentax it's pretty easy to see that they've pulled some stops to encourage us to buy new lenses and it's certainly not in the name of progress. As for the traditional film makers, what I was referring to is that the same companies are to a certain extent the ones that make the digital sensors, but I guess they are not significant enough in that area to be able to call the shots. The sensor makers (all but Canon) care not how the sensors are used as long as their sales volumes are sufficient to generate profit. I can't see any camera company producing a product that won't be deemed outdated in a a few short years, it just wouldn't make economic sense. This unfortunately is the bottom line. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Canon's 8MPix cameraphone!!!
Hilarious! Jostein *still laughing* Quoting Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For the first time - Canon managed to combine high-end 8MPix DSLR with a phone!!! http://www.republika.pl/sylwekp/PAW/telefon_z_aparatem.jpg ;-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: OT: artful lens review
On 17 Dec 2004 at 0:13, Luigi de Guzman wrote: Erwin Puts is probably the biggest Leicaphile on the planet. His reviews are generally good reads, but he sometimes gets carried away by his own prose--the 'review' ceases to be a real discussion about the equipment, and becomes a panegyric to all things Leica. Unfortunately after the diatribe, and I have read and appreciated many of his articles over the years, when he presents images relating to these spectacular lenses they generally don't inspire, you do wonder where his loves lie. And yes I've had a bit to drink. :-P Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Tablets
- Original Message - From: David Mann Subject: Tablets I'm leaning towards buying a brand new tablet as I could see the touch-panels of the Intuos3 series being useful for panning/zooming in Photoshop (has anyone used one of these?). Yes. I have one on my desk. It is a beautiful thing. I have the 6x8. I think it is a big enough work area, and the entire tablet measures some 25x33cm. I expect the 12x9 would be huge, and possibly unworkable unless you have a very large desk to put it on. My desktop is smaller than yours, at 2560x960. William Robb
Re: 2G Compact Flash Microdrive $129 and a $20 rebate
- Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: 2G Compact Flash Microdrive $129 and a $20 rebate I realize that because a microdrive has moving parts while compact flash does not, there is more to go wrong, possibly. Probably more prone to shock. But for that price, if it lasted 1/2 as long as a CF card with the same capacity one would probably break even. I've had a 1G microdrive for 2+ years and it's still working fine. I've seen how you work with your equipment. I am nowhere near as gentle with mine. For me, moving parts is breaking parts. For that matter, even my much babied LX's seem to suffer from broken parts on an ongoing basis (to be fair, two years now and no new issues), so perhaps I am just a camera killer. William Robb
Re: Exif Analyser
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can see that digital has done away with the zen of photography. No, it just means that you meditate on (= stare in baffled suprise at) the graphs, not the picture. Om. Why do you think they call it enLIGHTenment, anyway? -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Pocket camera?
Thursday, December 16, 2004, 2:27:31 PM, Peter wrote: PS Primarily I was thinking about film. (Is that necrophilia?) Hi Peter, Olympus Mju 2 (stylus epic) is pretty good as cheap PS go. For more use, it has two problems - shutter lag is very long (the lens focuses AFTER you fullpress the shutter release) and you can't disable the flash easily (you have to press a tiny button twice), and all settings like center(spot)meter (which it does have, and works well) and flash off reset themselves after you turn the camera off. This frustrated me tremendously. But very cheap. Better would be Ricoh GR1v - even better lens, aperture priority, faster, and what's best, normal ergonomic controls - switches for everything. Like aperture, flash use, all are controlled by hard switches. It even shows the chosen speed in the finder. 28mm lens though. More expensive :-( Or, better yet, get one of the old rangefinders. Canonet QIII with the 40/1.7 lens is very very good. Good light! fra
Re: Exif Analyser
Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't know if this is an old one, but here's a simple yet interesting tool which tells you about your shooting habits: http://www.csie.nctu.edu.tw/~ycdai/software/software_e.html This web page raises a question I'd never even thought of asking: Do you really need blub shutter? -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Lens not on A with istD
Ok Ok i know i'm supposed to know this,but i forgot and i did not save the threads but,,, When a lens is off A and shooting in M mode, i noticed the info file does not record the F stop data. Is this normal for the camera or have i got a dud.Or is it because i forgot to press the green button.(this is a great item,but will take a few days to get used to) Updated to Firmware 1.11 last night and did some quick flash tests. In P mode lens on A using the AF283T, i got F stop data. In M mode with lens on F 5.6 shutter at 1/60 i did not. This could be a pain since i was hoping for this data as i did not keep notes on the flash test. However i did notice the 283(in TTL) is inconsistant in the above mode which works well on my film cameras but was a bit overexposed on the D. Setting the flash to auto,green,and the aperature on the lens,worked better. A tad under but not much. Sorry for the repeat question,but you should expect that from me by now.LOL Dave
Re: Lens not on A with istD
Hey Dave I'm not sure I qualify to answer your question after having the ist D for about a week, but I'm thinking what you got is right How do you like the camera so far... Did you get that great price from Blacks Vic
RE: Lens not on A with istD
The camera does not have a way of knowing the F stop unless the A setting is used. Using the Green Button only closes the lens to the stop you have set and then reads the light to determine exposure. Only when the F stop is set *on the camera body* will this info be recorded. AF283T?? I've not heard of that one. I've found TTL flash to work best at ISO400, as have others. Even then I wouldn't bet my work on TTL flash on the D, it's too unpredictable. Most of my TTL shots are OK but I've seen many that are off by 2-3 stops! :-( Automatic flash mode works much better IMHO. Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 2:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Lens not on A with istD Ok Ok i know i'm supposed to know this,but i forgot and i did not save the threads but,,, When a lens is off A and shooting in M mode, i noticed the info file does not record the F stop data. Is this normal for the camera or have i got a dud.Or is it because i forgot to press the green button.(this is a great item,but will take a few days to get used to) Updated to Firmware 1.11 last night and did some quick flash tests. In P mode lens on A using the AF283T, i got F stop data. In M mode with lens on F 5.6 shutter at 1/60 i did not. This could be a pain since i was hoping for this data as i did not keep notes on the flash test. However i did notice the 283(in TTL) is inconsistant in the above mode which works well on my film cameras but was a bit overexposed on the D. Setting the flash to auto,green,and the aperature on the lens,worked better. A tad under but not much. Sorry for the repeat question,but you should expect that from me by now.LOL Dave
Re: Lens not on A with istD
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When a lens is off A and shooting in M mode, i noticed the info file does not record the F stop data. Is this normal for the camera or have i got a dud.Or is it because i forgot to press the green button.(this is a great item,but will take a few days to get used to) You have to press the green button to calculate exposure because the *istD has no aperture indicator coupler, and therefore cannot read what aperture the lens is set to. This means that it can't save that information with the photo. In other words, it's normal. Stick the lens on A and set the aperture from the body if you want the aperture recorded. S
Re: Exif Analyser
Of course. It's absolutely necessary. I frequently use it for exposures longer than one second. On Dec 17, 2004, at 8:01 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't know if this is an old one, but here's a simple yet interesting tool which tells you about your shooting habits: http://www.csie.nctu.edu.tw/~ycdai/software/software_e.html This web page raises a question I'd never even thought of asking: Do you really need blub shutter? -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Exif Analyser
Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course. It's absolutely necessary. I frequently use it for exposures longer than one second. Ah, I thought it might be some kind of underwater thing... ;-) On Dec 17, 2004, at 8:01 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't know if this is an old one, but here's a simple yet interesting tool which tells you about your shooting habits: http://www.csie.nctu.edu.tw/~ycdai/software/software_e.html This web page raises a question I'd never even thought of asking: Do you really need blub shutter? -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
RE: Exif Analyser
That would be the blub, blub shutter. ;-) Don -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 8:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Exif Analyser Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course. It's absolutely necessary. I frequently use it for exposures longer than one second. Ah, I thought it might be some kind of underwater thing... ;-) On Dec 17, 2004, at 8:01 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't know if this is an old one, but here's a simple yet interesting tool which tells you about your shooting habits: http://www.csie.nctu.edu.tw/~ycdai/software/software_e.html This web page raises a question I'd never even thought of asking: Do you really need blub shutter? -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Lens not on A with istD
Hey Dave I'm not sure I qualify to answer your question after having the ist D for about a week, but I'm thinking what you got is right Looks like that s the case. I'm used to the other camera which gives me these numbers in the file. Just a tiny panic mode is all.LOL How do you like the camera so far... Did you get that great price from Blacks Yes i did. I wont tell you what i paid though.Must have been the last one they had.:-) So far i like it,but have not given it a major test. Just some inside the house flash shots to see what works best.It seems to like the FA 28-105 f 4-5.6 though. Focus is about the same as the PZ-1 and in house light didi not seem to hunt very much if i gave it some contrast to focus on. Dave Vic
RE: Lens not on A with istD
The camera does not have a way of knowing the F stop unless the A setting is used. Using the Green Button only closes the lens to the stop you have set and then reads the light to determine exposure. Only when the F stop is set *on the camera body* will this info be recorded. Ok i see that now.:-) AF283T?? I've not heard of that one. Meant 280Tg I've found TTL flash to work best at ISO400, as have others. Even then I wouldn't bet my work on TTL flash on the D, it's too unpredictable. Most of my TTL shots are OK but I've seen many that are off by 2-3 stops! :-( Automatic flash mode works much better IMHO. Auto did give me a nicer photo last night. Dave Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 2:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Lens not on A with istD Ok Ok i know i'm supposed to know this,but i forgot and i did not save the threads but,,, When a lens is off A and shooting in M mode, i noticed the info file does not record the F stop data. Is this normal for the camera or have i got a dud.Or is it because i forgot to press the green button.(this is a great item,but will take a few days to get used to) Updated to Firmware 1.11 last night and did some quick flash tests. In P mode lens on A using the AF283T, i got F stop data. In M mode with lens on F 5.6 shutter at 1/60 i did not. This could be a pain since i was hoping for this data as i did not keep notes on the flash test. However i did notice the 283(in TTL) is inconsistant in the above mode which works well on my film cameras but was a bit overexposed on the D. Setting the flash to auto,green,and the aperature on the lens,worked better. A tad under but not much. Sorry for the repeat question,but you should expect that from me by now.LOL Dave
Re: Lens not on A with istD
In other words, it's normal. Stick the lens on A and set the aperture from the body if you want the aperture recorded. Thanks Steve. It was play time last night and i got a bit worried when i saw the 0.0 fiqures . I thought it was a combo of the af280 and a bum camera.g I usually shoot Av now anyway so it should be ok. Dave
Re: SV: The film is dead
ein I can see having a BW mode that basically ignored the bayer grid, ein but I can't see any reason to make a BW-only DSLR for the trivial ein savings or the theoretical increase in quality given the ever-decreasing ein price and ever-increasing quality of DSLRs. I notice that the foveon The detail advantage of a non-bayered sensor vs. bayered sensor would about 2x, I think (I mean, the 3MP foveon was roughly equivalent to about 6MP bayer CFA sensor). The 6MP sensor from Sony is quite cheap by now, quite cheaper than their new 12MP aps format sensor ;-) Of course the camera would be a niche product. But as cosina has shown us, they can sell niche products quite well - the Epson-Cosina RD1 would be prime application for BW sensor. Increased resolution would benefit these Leica lenses a lot, 1-2 stop more basic sensitivity would be beneficial for a rangefinder as well... And in rangefinder, it could be justified more than in a SLR. Unfortunately, Sony's OEM pages don't list the ICX413AQ (the colour sensor used) nor any monochrome version. It seems it's now a secret. So we don't know if they actually made a monochrome variant (probably denoted as ICX413AL, as their other sensors' nomenclature suggests) or not. Also, we don't know the colour characteristics of sillicon used, perhaps it would need some spectrum correcting filter anyway. Just dreaming... fra
Re: Exif Analyser
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why do you think they call it enLIGHTenment, anyway? Yeah, and you sit down to focus on something beyond yourself... Jostein
Re: Helios 58mm, surprising!
Hi there, older Helioses are single-coated. The quality of those is a lottery, sometimes you can get very good one, but mos of them are average. Or even worse. As I do collect russian cameras, I have tens of Helios-44 (and versions) lenses. I have found one that's AMAZINGLY sharp and contrasty. The same way I can right now go to my shelf and take one full crap Helios-44M-4 lens from there... BR, Margus Don Sanderson wrote: http://www.donsauction.com/PDML/IMGP2572small.jpg Uncoated(?) Russian HELIOS-44M-4 58/2 lens. Cost me a whole $14.67 US, shipped from Australia. Sun in the upper left corner of the frame. I figured it would flare like crazy, surprise. Great portrait length on the D. I think I'll like this thing! Don
RE: First DSLR with live LCD view!
My boss has a E20. As the max. shutterspeed varies with the chosen resulution, I suspect it is not mechanical. He takes brilliant photographs. And no one ever notice when a shot is taken - it's very quiet. He makes beautiful, sharp high resolution prints from this 5MP camera. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 17. december 2004 09:59 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: First DSLR with live LCD view! On 17 Dec 2004 at 8:31, Jon Glass wrote: On Dec 17, 2004, at 1:44 AM, Luigi de Guzman wrote: As I recall, they achieved this by means of a beamsplitter, and they didn't have a mechanical shutter. Actually, I think they did. I almost bought an E20, and it would black out before the shot, and I sometimes heard a clicking sound. Their mechanical shutter was the big limitation in their high shutter speed of a mere 1/640 sec. time. The E20 also had an electronic-type shutter, but it only captured every other line, and produced horrible resolution. Sorry, for being AR... :-) Actually neither have a mechanical shutter. They are very quiet when shooting (when the synthesized sound is shut off), the only noise is the aperture stopping down and that's also the reason the finder may become darker. The E-20 was able to capture in a progressive scan mode for high speed shooting but could be switched to back to regular low noise interlaced scan mode limiting it to 1/640 sec max shutter speed like the E-10. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
RE: Lens not on A with istD
Yes, it's normal. The focal length and aperture is not recorded. Cameras like Super A (1983) PZ-1 and MZ-S (2001) etc. all work the same way - that is, the aperture is not recorded by the camera (allthough it is by the meter), thus not stated in the viewfinder or otherwise. It IS a PITA. But that's evolution, i suppose. In 1983, they had NO idea what they were going to manufacture app. 20 years later. I guess we can't really blame them :-). PS: When I graduated in 1978, there was no computers - let alone digital cameras. I 1981 we got a few DOS computers. But still no MS Windows. Today it's a whole new ball game, isn't it? Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 17. december 2004 09:02 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Lens not on A with istD Ok Ok i know i'm supposed to know this,but i forgot and i did not save the threads but,,, When a lens is off A and shooting in M mode, i noticed the info file does not record the F stop data. Is this normal for the camera or have i got a dud.Or is it because i forgot to press the green button.(this is a great item,but will take a few days to get used to) Updated to Firmware 1.11 last night and did some quick flash tests. In P mode lens on A using the AF283T, i got F stop data. In M mode with lens on F 5.6 shutter at 1/60 i did not. This could be a pain since i was hoping for this data as i did not keep notes on the flash test. However i did notice the 283(in TTL) is inconsistant in the above mode which works well on my film cameras but was a bit overexposed on the D. Setting the flash to auto,green,and the aperature on the lens,worked better. A tad under but not much. Sorry for the repeat question,but you should expect that from me by now.LOL Dave
D-FA Macros
Hi there, I checked our Pentax dealer pricelist today and noticed both 50mm and 100mm new macro lenses available. I am interested in 100mm macro and surprisingly the new version is 80 euros cheaper than FA I 've decided to get before. Does anyone have an experience with D-FA 100/2.8? Or maybe someone have got even more lucky and compared FA with D-FA ??? BR, Margus P.S. Interestingly, price for 50mm D-FA is about 50 euros higher than price for FA version. I really do not understand Pentax marketing...
Re: Pocket camera?
On 16/12/04, Peter Smekal, discombobulated, unleashed: I am thinking about a small (pocket) camera as a christmas present. Any recommendations? It doesn't necessarily have to be a Pentax though. Built and optical quality is more important. If I was getting one it would be an Optio. That's a real pocket camera. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Portraits wide open, or stop down one or two stops?
Here's two examples: LX + A*85mm at f/1.4 http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/portraits/images/pic19.html D60 + K50mm at f/1.2 http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/portraits/images/pic26.html Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Proof if proof were needed
On 16/12/04, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: Not happy. Without cheer. In your case, probably without a glass of wine in hand. I'll drink to that! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Was it really worth that much?
On 16/12/04, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed: Hoovers? As in vacuums [vacuums suck ;-)], as in bad? Ask Wendy ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: What's the GFM photo weekend like?
Hi Marn Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: Lens not on A with istD
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, Jens Bladt wrote: Yes, it's normal. The focal length and aperture is not recorded. Cameras like Super A (1983) PZ-1 and MZ-S (2001) etc. all work the same way - that is, the aperture is not recorded by the camera (allthough it is by the meter), thus not stated in the viewfinder or otherwise. Not true in general. If you use an F or FA lens with the -5n, you get the aperture on the viewfinder even in Av mode (which is done from the lens in that camera, not the body). I would guess that's also true for the MZ-S. Kostas
Re: OT: artful lens review
That's what I like about it! It's like camp pop-art. --Mark Paul Stenquist wrote: I find it rather pretentious and a bit silly. On Dec 17, 2004, at 12:05 AM, Mark Erickson wrote: I ran across this Erwin Puts review of a Leica lens and was struck by its artfully-crafted prose. I thought some of you might enjoy reading it also: http://www.imx.nl/photosite/leica/mseries/testm/m2-35.html
Re: Lens not on A with istD
If the camera could record the f stop the lens was set to when the lens wasn't set to A, then it could also meter properly. I know that F and FA lenses supply the camera with that information, but Pentax apparently didn't equip the camera with the capability to read it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok Ok i know i'm supposed to know this,but i forgot and i did not save the threads but,,, When a lens is off A and shooting in M mode, i noticed the info file does not record the F stop data. Is this normal for the camera or have i got a dud.Or is it because i forgot to press the green button.(this is a great item,but will take a few days to get used to) Updated to Firmware 1.11 last night and did some quick flash tests. In P mode lens on A using the AF283T, i got F stop data. In M mode with lens on F 5.6 shutter at 1/60 i did not. This could be a pain since i was hoping for this data as i did not keep notes on the flash test. However i did notice the 283(in TTL) is inconsistant in the above mode which works well on my film cameras but was a bit overexposed on the D. Setting the flash to auto,green,and the aperature on the lens,worked better. A tad under but not much. Sorry for the repeat question,but you should expect that from me by now.LOL Dave -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
FS: SMC Pentax K 24mm f/2.8, Tamron Adaptall 24mm f/2.5, EX+
For sale: Pentax SMC K 24mm f/2.8 lens. Excellent plus, really beautiful and hardly used condition. One of the (many) really nice primes of the original K series! See its specs on Boz's site at: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/lenses/primes/ultra-wide/K24f2.8.html Original front rear caps included, plus I'll include a wide-angle Sigma perfect hood that is a nice hood option for this lens as it is much smaller than the rectangular Pentax hood and tulip shaped. $175 includes Priority Mail shipping in the continental U.S., postage is additional to other areas. Photos available on request. Also still available (for a less expensive 24mm prime lens): Tamron Adaptall II 24mm f/2.5 lens, 55mm filter size. Purchased from KEH in EX+ condition in July. Lens is extremely clean and clear. Dust specks in photos are only on the exterior. This is a nicely made lens with very good build quality and very good manual focus feel that is a fine-performing, more-affordable substitute for a genuine Pentax 24mm lens. Lens includes front and rear (Adaptall) caps. Add a screwmount, ES/ESII screwmount, K, or KA Adaptall adapter to this lens for full functionality on any Pentax camera! $110 including shipping in the continental U.S., a bit more to other areas. http://homepage.mac.com/wilensky/eBay/Tamron_front.jpg http://homepage.mac.com/wilensky/eBay/Tamron_side.jpg http://homepage.mac.com/wilensky/eBay/Tamron_rear.jpg Joe
Re: Lens not on A with istD
I paid $1,399.00 Cdn. for mine. Are you saying that you got a better deal than that... That's incredible if you did. The only criticism I have with the D is that it is so small that it almost feels uncomfortable in my hands, and I don't have big hands. Have ist D owners found that the grip improves handling substantially Vic
Re: Pocket camera?
In a message dated 12/17/04 11:37:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: f I was getting one it would be an Optio. That's a real pocket camera. Cheers, Cotty That's a shirt pocket camera.. Vic
RE: FS: SMC Pentax K 24mm f/2.8, Tamron Adaptall 24mm f/2.5, EX+
Hi Joe ... I'd like to see a pic of that Sigma hood and how it fits on the K24. Possible? Where might I get such a hood? For which Sigma lens is it designed? Shel [Original Message] From: Joe Wilensky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 12/17/2004 9:07:55 AM Subject: FS: SMC Pentax K 24mm f/2.8, Tamron Adaptall 24mm f/2.5, EX+ For sale: Pentax SMC K 24mm f/2.8 lens. Excellent plus, really beautiful and hardly used condition. One of the (many) really nice primes of the original K series! See its specs on Boz's site at: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/lenses/primes/ultra-wide/K24f2.8.html Original front rear caps included, plus I'll include a wide-angle Sigma perfect hood that is a nice hood option for this lens as it is much smaller than the rectangular Pentax hood and tulip shaped. $175 includes Priority Mail shipping in the continental U.S., postage is additional to other areas. Photos available on request.
Re: Pocket camera?
Pentax: Espio Mini , or UC-1 http://perso.wanadoo.fr/krg/collection/espiomini.htm Michel
RE: Lens not on A with istD
Without the grip it's too small for me. With the grip it becomes part of me, good secure grip, nice balance, I can dangle it from my fingertips with no fear of dropping it. The only time I've removed the gip was when I put on a 50/2 and wanted the whole thing to fit in my coat pocket. Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 11:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Lens not on A with istD I paid $1,399.00 Cdn. for mine. Are you saying that you got a better deal than that... That's incredible if you did. The only criticism I have with the D is that it is so small that it almost feels uncomfortable in my hands, and I don't have big hands. Have ist D owners found that the grip improves handling substantially Vic
Re: Lens not on A with istD
No,same price. I thought you got it when it was $1699.00. Great price. Everyone else is still at $1899. I find it a bit small for my hands to,but its something i can be happy with. May get the grip just to add bulk. Got my friends hockey game to shoot for him Saturday,so i'll try both Dlsr cameras,although the fastest Pentax lens i have right now is the A70-210 F4.Sounds like a very poorly lite arena they play in so this should prove challenging. Trying the custom WB for the first time on TWO cameras.LOL Dave Dave I paid $1,399.00 Cdn. for mine. Are you saying that you got a better deal than that... That's incredible if you did. The only criticism I have with the D is that it is so small that it almost feels uncomfortable in my hands, and I don't have big hands. Have ist D owners found that the grip improves handling substantially Vic
Re: Grain desolving programs
Thanks, Herb- While I 'never' use a film with an ISO higher than 100, I am considering Grain Surgery based on this, and other, recommendations. Just remembered that the last time I used 200 ISO was for a wedding in 1997. Jack --- Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i use Grain Surgery and Neat Image Pro (because it's a Photoshop plugin and non-pro isn't) and of the two, i think Grain Surgery does a better job, but it's enough harder to use that i always try Neat Image first. i reserve Grain Surgery for matching grain or simulating a specific film. about the only time i used them though was to reduce the grain on Provia 400F. as much as i disliked the grain on my scans of Provia 100F and Velvia, i never found the reduction enough while retaining the detail i saw with my 4000dpi scans. i think that if i scanned at a lower resolution, both programs would have worked better. Herb... - Original Message - From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 6:17 PM Subject: Re: Grain desolving programs Grain Surgery seems highly regarded, it can remove, synthesize and match grain patterns but I can't comment with any authority as I've not used it. I have however used both NeatImage and NoiseNija, both are very effective, they rely upon noise profiles which allows them to perform noise/grain reduction in profiled media quite accurately. __ Do you Yahoo!? Send a seasonal email greeting and help others. Do good. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com
Re: Pocket camera?
Is that comparable to the Yashica T4super/t5? Peter Pentax: Espio Mini , or UC-1 http://perso.wanadoo.fr/krg/collection/espiomini.htm Michel
Re: Pocket camera?
Thanks Frantisek, would you consider the Ricoh and the Canonet as pocket cameras? Peter Better would be Ricoh GR1v - even better lens, aperture priority, faster, and what's best, normal ergonomic controls - switches for everything. Like aperture, flash use, all are controlled by hard switches. It even shows the chosen speed in the finder. 28mm lens though. More expensive :-( Or, better yet, get one of the old rangefinders. Canonet QIII with the 40/1.7 lens is very very good. Good light! fra
PESO Bee here now
Bee in flower, that is... I grabbed this one with my brothers N***n outside the polling station while he was participating in democracy. I suppose that it might be outside the rules, seeing as it was produced with equipment from the dark side, but I figured that violators wouldn't be prosecuted too severely G. http://www.photosynth.ca/photo/f/bee-in-daisy-small.JPG Comments welcome. Francis. P.S. sorry if you have received this twice. I accidently used the wrong personality and I wasn't sure if had gotten to the list.
Re: Was it really worth that much?
- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: Was it really worth that much? On 16/12/04, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed: Hoovers? As in vacuums [vacuums suck ;-)], as in bad? Actually, vacuum cleaners don't suck. They just creat an environment allowing the Earth to blow. William Robb
Re: Lens not on A with istD
- Original Message - From: Kostas Kavoussanakis Subject: RE: Lens not on A with istD On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, Jens Bladt wrote: Yes, it's normal. The focal length and aperture is not recorded. Cameras like Super A (1983) PZ-1 and MZ-S (2001) etc. all work the same way - that is, the aperture is not recorded by the camera (allthough it is by the meter), thus not stated in the viewfinder or otherwise. Not true in general. If you use an F or FA lens with the -5n, you get the aperture on the viewfinder even in Av mode (which is done from the lens in that camera, not the body). I would guess that's also true for the MZ-S. I believe the MZ cameras may be an anomoly. I recall my Super Programs didn't show aperture information off the A position. I have no idea whether the SF cameras behave similarly or not. William Robb
Re: Portraits wide open, or stop down one or two stops?
- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: Portraits wide open, or stop down one or two stops? D60 + K50mm at f/1.2 http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/portraits/images/pic26.html Did you ever tell Vix that I want to have her babies? WW
K50/1.2 - Be a smart shopper
Even KEH can sometimes be cheaper than the competition. Not often, but sometimes. One recently sold on eBay for $300. KEH has one for $286. Sincerely, C. Brendemuehl Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net
FT: P5/MEII outfit
Since I don't have a good buyer for the set does anyone have something to trade for the pair? Here's some want/need items: -- A50/1.4 -- Winder MX -- LF stuff (8x10 or 4x5, film, holders, whatever) -- Ikonta folder -- 2-meter handheld Or if you've got something else nifty Sincerely, C. Brendemuehl Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net
Re: Pocket camera?
Friday, December 17, 2004, 6:54:48 PM, Peter wrote: PS Thanks Frantisek, PS would you consider the Ricoh and the Canonet as pocket cameras? PS Peter The Ricoh - definitely. It's _the_ slimmest 35mm film camera ever. And it's made mostly of magnesium. I have no long track record with it, though. I just read about it and tried it few times in the store, and I liked it a lot. Canonet is a larger camera, perhaps not a pocket one. It's about as big as a Leica with lens on or so. It's basically a Leica with much cheaper (but still respectable by todays standards!) build quality and one non-interchangeable lens, but it has central shutter. see http://www.cameraquest.com/canql17.htm Few friends who actually used it rated its little lens highly. And they know what a good lens is, even for big prints. From my few trials in the shoppe I found the Ricoh's lens to be quite good as well, especially for a 28mm lens. They actually later produced it in Leica M mount. The Olympus XA few others mentioned is nice as well, but I didn't likee its manual focusing. Try it yourself though, perhaps it was just dirty. And it does vignette a lot, even though its lens is supposedly otherwise very good too. Good light! fra
Re: Proof if proof were needed
the lens that wasn't pentax. and yes, wine i do have :O) and dark chocolate to boot rg2 - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 6:45 PM Subject: Re: Proof if proof were needed - Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: Proof if proof were needed On 16/12/04, Rebekah Gonzalez, discombobulated, unleashed: it's so sad. What is sad? Not happy. Without cheer. In your case, probably without a glass of wine in hand. William Robb
Re: Lens not on A with istD
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, William Robb wrote: I believe the MZ cameras may be an anomoly. I recall my Super Programs didn't show aperture information off the A position. It couldn't, as it predates the F/FA lenses and their protocols :-) I have no idea whether the SF cameras behave similarly or not. And mine is on a long-term loan, so I cannot check. But would (for the sake of it) like to know, also what happens with the Z/PZ series. Kostas
RE: Lens not on A with istD
The same is true for the PZ-1 and PZ-1p with FA lenses--the aperture set on the lens shows up in the viewfinder just fine. ...well, except with the FA 28-80/3.5-4.7 (power zoom), in which case the aperture in the viewfinder is about a stop off (even though exposure is fine). Go figure. --- Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, Jens Bladt wrote: Yes, it's normal. The focal length and aperture is not recorded. Cameras like Super A (1983) PZ-1 and MZ-S (2001) etc. all work the same way - that is, the aperture is not recorded by the camera (allthough it is by the meter), thus not stated in the viewfinder or otherwise. Not true in general. If you use an F or FA lens with the -5n, you get the aperture on the viewfinder even in Av mode (which is done from the lens in that camera, not the body). I would guess that's also true for the MZ-S. Kostas __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
Re: Cliffs Near Hasan's Cave
In a message dated 12/14/2004 9:38:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Taken near Hasan's Cave on Malta's Southern coast one very very cold Sunday (late) afteroon. Equipment MZ-S + FA50 1.4 + Tripod - Media Fuji Velvia 50 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2941279 Comments Critique Welcome. Patrick === Really nice shot. Nice alignment of clouds and cliff. For some reason, I'd like a bit more sky though. More of the hole in the clouds. But really nice shot. Doe aka Marnie
Re: What's the GFM photo weekend like?
A question I have been wanting to ask for a long time... how disabled friendly is GFM weekend I require a cane or a walker to get around. Jerry In Houston
Re: PESO Bee here now
My first digital was a dark side camera, a Canon Pro 90 IS. Jim A. From: Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 17:31:41 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO Bee here now Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 13:03:29 -0500 Bee in flower, that is... I grabbed this one with my brothers N***n outside the polling station while he was participating in democracy. I suppose that it might be outside the rules, seeing as it was produced with equipment from the dark side, but I figured that violators wouldn't be prosecuted too severely G. http://www.photosynth.ca/photo/f/bee-in-daisy-small.JPG Comments welcome. Francis. P.S. sorry if you have received this twice. I accidently used the wrong personality and I wasn't sure if had gotten to the list.
Re: Lens not on A with istD
William Robb mused: I believe the MZ cameras may be an anomoly. I recall my Super Programs didn't show aperture information off the A position. My MXs do ...
RE: Lens not on A with istD
Without the grip it's too small for me. With the grip it becomes part of me, good secure grip, nice balance, I can dangle it from my fingertips with no fear of dropping it. The only time I've removed the gip was when I put on a 50/2 and wanted the whole thing to fit in my coat pocket. Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 11:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Lens not on A with istD I paid $1,399.00 Cdn. for mine. Are you saying that you got a better deal than that... That's incredible if you did. The only criticism I have with the D is that it is so small that it almost feels uncomfortable in my hands, and I don't have big hands. Have ist D owners found that the grip improves handling substantially Vic
Re: Lens not on A with istD
I believe the MZ cameras may be an anomoly. I recall my Super Programs didn't show aperture information off the A position. I have no idea whether the SF cameras behave similarly or not. William Robb My daughter has the SF-1 now,but IMSMC it shows shutter speed only,which is why i wanted, and got, a PZ-1 Dave
flash options on D
Which flash options do I have on D if I want a flash that will provide AF assist, TTL, guide number 120 or more and cost no more than around $200 ? I don't care about P-TTL so much as I don't want to have people blinking right before the exposure. Which flash has the best TTL and AF assist on the D ? I think it is time to retire my $30 Sunpak 383 Super. It would be a shame not to use more advanced D features because of the dated flash. What I need the most is TTL and AF assist. I need the TTL because of the macro shots and I need AF assist to help my D focus in low light, otherwise my Sunpak is great for me, best light for the money. I also want to use Stofen Omnibounce with the flash. Manual override would also be a must have feature, but I hope every $200 flash has that. Are Pentax AF360FGZ and Sigma EF 500 DG Super my only options ? What is the difference between these two ? Sigma is more powerful and head can swivel to the sides ? Is that all ? What about TTL and AF assist, which one has this better implemented ?
FS Friday
I have the following cameras and accessories for sale: Pentax *ist film AF SLR + BG-20 battery grip. The camera itself is LN- (I don't have the strap) and the BG-20 EX+. 220 euros. Pentax Z-1 AF SLR + FDP Gripstrap + F electronic cable release + Spanish instruction manual. The camera is in excellent condition, both mecanically and electronically, using KEH grading I rate it as EX+. It shows slight use traces, but not abuse. I want 200 euros for everything (the Fdp gripstrap alone would cost 70-80 euros, if you're lucky enough to find one, and the F cable release about 20-25). Pentax MZ-5 AF SLR + Fg AA battery grip + Spanish instruction manual. Both the camera and the battery grip are in LN condition. 160 euros. Kenko SHQ 1.5x AF teleconverter + case. Like new and boxed, it has the contacts needed for Pentax powerzoom lenses. 40 euros. If you are interested in one of these items, please send a message to my email box, not the list. Shipping expenses are not included in these prices. Thank you for your attention.
Re: My website has moved...
On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, Albano Garcia wrote: I'm still here, but my job (quitting soon), university and girlfriend leaves few space for pdml. Just wanted to let you know that my website has moved to a new domain: http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar Albano, I was quite pleased to see an email from you on the list the other day. As I have broadband at home (as of Monday :-) I got the opportunity to check your site. Really good, fresh (for me) stuff. If you don't know about Albano, it's worth a look. Kostas
Re: First DSLR with live LCD view!
On Dec 17, 2004, at 9:58 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: Actually neither have a mechanical shutter. They are very quiet when shooting (when the synthesized sound is shut off), the only noise is the aperture stopping down and that's also the reason the finder may become darker. The E-20 was able to capture in a progressive scan mode for high speed shooting but could be switched to back to regular low noise interlaced scan mode limiting it to 1/640 sec max shutter speed like the E-10. I read somewhere that the aperture is the shutter--(leaf shutter)? and the behavior of the ones I've played with would seem to be consistent with the behavior as described. It would also explain the 1/640 second top speed... -- -Jon Glass Krakow, Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: First DSLR with live LCD view!
Top speed is 1/8000 sec according to dpreview. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Jon Glass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 17. december 2004 21:30 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: First DSLR with live LCD view! On Dec 17, 2004, at 9:58 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: Actually neither have a mechanical shutter. They are very quiet when shooting (when the synthesized sound is shut off), the only noise is the aperture stopping down and that's also the reason the finder may become darker. The E-20 was able to capture in a progressive scan mode for high speed shooting but could be switched to back to regular low noise interlaced scan mode limiting it to 1/640 sec max shutter speed like the E-10. I read somewhere that the aperture is the shutter--(leaf shutter)? and the behavior of the ones I've played with would seem to be consistent with the behavior as described. It would also explain the 1/640 second top speed... -- -Jon Glass Krakow, Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Portraits wide open, or stop down one or two stops?
On 17/12/04, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/portraits/images/pic26.html Did you ever tell Vix that I want to have her babies? Yeah but but you better clear it with her girlfriend ! HAR Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Proof if proof were needed
On 17/12/04, Rebekah Gonzalez, discombobulated, unleashed: the lens that wasn't pentax. and yes, wine i do have :O) and dark chocolate to boot Okay I'm with you now. Actually I agree because the Sigma is indeed a sorry relfection (d'oh) of the Pentax Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: What's the GFM photo weekend like?
On 17/12/04, Jerry in Houston, discombobulated, unleashed: A question I have been wanting to ask for a long time... how disabled friendly is GFM weekend I require a cane or a walker to get around. Jerry, the site should be fairly good for both. The actual campsite itself is lower down the hill, in a picnic area. The only facilities are housed in a toilet block meant for day-trippers, so no showers or anything. Hot and cold running women, er water in there, but that's it. Entrance door is standard width, toilet entry is extra width. Some people stay in motels nearby. The camping/picnic area is separate from the Visitor Center / Habitat area which is accessible realistically only by car. It is possible to walk up the hill, but pedestrian access on the tarmac road is discouraged (in fact forbidden) to keep people and cars away from each other, which makes sense. Vehicular access up the hill to the Visitor Center / Habitat area is easy, and a couple of minutes or so in drive time. Once there, the entire visitor center is easily accessed with large entries and all facilities on one level. Auditorium seating can be access without descending steps. Food / toilets / shop ditto. The animal habitats can be accessed on foot, and although no steps need be traversed, some of the (tarmac) inclines are medium steep. There are a smattering of bench seats sporadically placed to rest at. Good viewing of the animals is offered, easily seen from viewing areas with handrails and places to stop and lean against / rest a camera. Driving further up the mountain to the top at the Mile High Swinging Bridge, good views can be had from the car park and surrounds, but access to the bridge area is by 50 steps, good handrails provided. Other vistas can be accessed along the road to the top with parking areas and views. This page will help: http://www.grandfather-mountain.com/basic/walking.htm Any other questions, ask Bill Owens or Doug Brewer or Mark Thompson amongst others. Although not disabled myself, I frequently work amongst disable folk and like to think I'm in tune with their needs. I would think that access for you at GFM would be good. HTH and you should try and make it! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: SV: The film is dead
Perhaps a film module too! -Original Message- From: Toralf Lund[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15/12/04 23:41:46 Of course. I'm thinking more in terms of making certain parts of the body replaceable - typically the sensor itself and the A/Ds. So you wouldn't have BW, night time and high speed camera bodies, but one body with interchangable BW, night time and high speed modules (that would fit in your pocket.) If done the right way, switching between those would be at least as convenient as the camera control fiddling that you otherwise have to do. (Although having to bring separate units if of course a bit of an inconvenience in its own right.) And while we are dreaming, how about a storage medium where you can - like with film - tell what the contents are merely by looking at it, and also produce images by direct projection? Possibly in combination with the sensor. This might be a bit like the electronic paper some people are working on, only in a sense the other way around (you would obviously want to read the data back, too - but perhaps they're alrady planning that for electronic paper?)
Re: What's the GFM photo weekend like?
On 17/12/04, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: Jerry, the site should be fairly good for both. The actual campsite itself is lower down the hill, in a picnic area. The only facilities are housed in a toilet block meant for day-trippers, so no showers or anything. Hot and cold running women, er water in there, but that's it. Entrance door is standard width, toilet entry is extra width. Some people stay in motels nearby. Ground underfoot is fairly rough with the odd tree root and dangling branches to knock into, especially after some Owen's Special Brew. Flashlight mandatory. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Pocket camera?
It's quite a bit smaller than the standard Leica, perhaps closer to the CL in size. The lens is quite good. It's a fine little camera, but one may need a large shirt pocket for it. It fits in some of my shirts and certainly in most all of my jacket pockets. Shel [Original Message] From: Frantisek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Friday, December 17, 2004, 6:54:48 PM, Peter wrote: PS Thanks Frantisek, PS would you consider the Ricoh and the Canonet as pocket cameras? PS Peter The Ricoh - definitely. It's _the_ slimmest 35mm film camera ever. And it's made mostly of magnesium. I have no long track record with it, though. I just read about it and tried it few times in the store, and I liked it a lot. Canonet is a larger camera, perhaps not a pocket one. It's about as big as a Leica with lens on or so. It's basically a Leica with much cheaper (but still respectable by todays standards!) build quality and one non-interchangeable lens, but it has central shutter. see http://www.cameraquest.com/canql17.htm
Re: First DSLR with live LCD view!
On 17 Dec 2004 at 21:29, Jon Glass wrote: I read somewhere that the aperture is the shutter--(leaf shutter)? and the behavior of the ones I've played with would seem to be consistent with the behavior as described. It would also explain the 1/640 second top speed... Not as far as I recall, but I only made 20,000+ images with mine before I sold it. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
DA 16/45 for CHEAP
Probably breaking the rules but go search for 'DA 16-45mm' on eBay, There's a VERY cheap one!!! One of you should get it! It's in the US. Don
Re: Portraits wide open, or stop down one or two stops?
What if he offers to have her girlfriends babies? Cotty wrote: On 17/12/04, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/portraits/images/pic26.html Did you ever tell Vix that I want to have her babies? Yeah but but you better clear it with her girlfriend ! HAR Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: Portraits wide open, or stop down one or two stops?
That should be ...girlfriend's... Peter J. Alling wrote: What if he offers to have her girlfriends babies? Cotty wrote: On 17/12/04, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/portraits/images/pic26.html Did you ever tell Vix that I want to have her babies? Yeah but but you better clear it with her girlfriend ! HAR Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
RE: Lens not on A with istD
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 17:10:24 +0100, Jens Bladt wrote: The focal length and aperture is not recorded. Cameras like Super A (1983) PZ-1 and MZ-S (2001) etc. all work the same way - that is, the aperture is not recorded by the camera (allthough it is by the meter), thus not stated in the viewfinder or otherwise. It IS a PITA. IIRC, that's not actually true for the MZ-S. It will record the actual aperture in Av or P mode on the edge of the film frame. It is shown in the viewfinder, too, after a fashion. In the viewfinder the nearest standard f-stop is shown in the viewfinder. So, if the actual aperture is f/3.0, it might show f/2.8 in the viewfinder, but it does seem to record f/3.0 on the edge of the film. I'll have to dig out some frames from my MZ-S and confirm that, though. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
Re: Lens not on A with istD
I can confirm that: My Z1 does not detect aperture with my Tamron 28mm 2.5 with KA adapter but does with ma FA 50mm 1.4. This is with aperture ring not on A of course. --- Thibouille Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, William Robb wrote: I believe the MZ cameras may be an anomoly. I recall my Super Programs didn't show aperture information off the A position. It couldn't, as it predates the F/FA lenses and their protocols :-) I have no idea whether the SF cameras behave similarly or not. And mine is on a long-term loan, so I cannot check. But would (for the sake of it) like to know, also what happens with the Z/PZ series. Kostas
Re: D-FA Macros
They have just hit the stores. They are full-frame lenses. They replace the FA, and may be better, but that is still to be determined. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Margus Männik wrote: Hi there, I checked our Pentax dealer pricelist today and noticed both 50mm and 100mm new macro lenses available. I am interested in 100mm macro and surprisingly the new version is 80 euros cheaper than FA I 've decided to get before. Does anyone have an experience with D-FA 100/2.8? Or maybe someone have got even more lucky and compared FA with D-FA ??? BR, Margus P.S. Interestingly, price for 50mm D-FA is about 50 euros higher than price for FA version. I really do not understand Pentax marketing...
Re: D-FA Macros
- Original Message - From: Graywolf Subject: Re: D-FA Macros They have just hit the stores. They are full-frame lenses. Good news. It tells me that Pentax is at least thinking in terms of full frame digital. William Robb
RE: DA 16/45 for CHEAP
http://tinyurl.com/5zwng trexxbirdbrain got it, I assume that isn't one of us? Don -Original Message- From: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 4:55 PM To: PDML Subject: DA 16/45 for CHEAP Probably breaking the rules but go search for 'DA 16-45mm' on eBay, There's a VERY cheap one!!! One of you should get it! It's in the US. Don
Re: Was it really worth that much?
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 12:04:29 -0600, William Robb wrote: Actually, vacuum cleaners don't suck. They just creat an environment allowing the Earth to blow. There is no gravity, the Earth sucks. -- Anonymous TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
RE: Lens not on A with istD
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 16:47:19 + (GMT), Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: Not true in general. If you use an F or FA lens with the -5n, you get the aperture on the viewfinder even in Av mode (which is done from the lens in that camera, not the body). I would guess that's also true for the MZ-S. I'm pretty sure it is true for the MZ-S, and I think the ZX/MZ-5 does it, too.y TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
Re: DA 16/45 for CHEAP
- Original Message - From: Don Sanderson Subject: RE: DA 16/45 for CHEAP http://tinyurl.com/5zwng trexxbirdbrain got it, I assume that isn't one of us? Birdbrain could only be one person that I know of.. William Robb
Re: SV: The film is dead
Interestingly enough chip sizes have gotten bigger and chip density has increased to the point where Itel, etc. are ready to start producing dual processors on a single chip. All of this stuff takes me back a few years when they were predicting that IC's were near the end of their development because they could not get smaller and they could not produce bigger chips. As usual the experts were wrong. You can not lose in the long run betting against the experts. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Rob Studdert wrote: On 17 Dec 2004 at 10:33, Toralf Lund wrote: Yes. The actual utilisation of the silicon has improved a bit over the years, though, hasn't it. Yes, but not so much in the realms of digital imaging, photo-sites can't be continuously made more dense without compromise to image quality. Another question is how large a portion of the sensor price is raw material cost, anyway, and also how much of what you pay for the camera actually goes to the sensor producer. I haven't really tried to check lately... Quite a bit I'd assume, even APS sensors are a whopping bit of silicon relative to most other VLSI products, though I don't have $$$ figures. Yes. That's what I meant, more or less, when I said there isn't much in it for the camera producers. However, what I'm also saying, is that *maybe* you can hope that one of the camera makers will see upgradeability as enough of a selling point to make (economic) sense for that company, even though it's not good for the business as a whole. (And if one vendor does it, the others will possibly feel obliged to follow.) Well just citing our beloved Pentax it's pretty easy to see that they've pulled some stops to encourage us to buy new lenses and it's certainly not in the name of progress. As for the traditional film makers, what I was referring to is that the same companies are to a certain extent the ones that make the digital sensors, but I guess they are not significant enough in that area to be able to call the shots. The sensor makers (all but Canon) care not how the sensors are used as long as their sales volumes are sufficient to generate profit. I can't see any camera company producing a product that won't be deemed outdated in a a few short years, it just wouldn't make economic sense. This unfortunately is the bottom line. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
RE: DA 16/45 for CHEAP
Christian? -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 5:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DA 16/45 for CHEAP - Original Message - From: Don Sanderson Subject: RE: DA 16/45 for CHEAP http://tinyurl.com/5zwng trexxbirdbrain got it, I assume that isn't one of us? Birdbrain could only be one person that I know of.. William Robb
Re: DA 16/45 for CHEAP
Well, if he is we should laugh at them, a lot... Don Sanderson wrote: http://tinyurl.com/5zwng trexxbirdbrain got it, I assume that isn't one of us? Don -Original Message- From: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 4:55 PM To: PDML Subject: DA 16/45 for CHEAP Probably breaking the rules but go search for 'DA 16-45mm' on eBay, There's a VERY cheap one!!! One of you should get it! It's in the US. Don -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
PESO: Watching Suzie (another concert photo)
This is from the same Pirate Jenny concert (the group that my friend Jennifer heads up) as the last two that I posted of this series: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2920209 I kind of hesitated posting this one, because it's a bit - well - offbeat. This particular show featured a couple of dancers, one of which (Suzie Burpee, FWIW), is in this photo. That's her OOF blond hair, sloping shoulder and upper arm in the upper centre of the frame. What I can't figure out, is why her lower body isn't shielding the vibraphones at the bottom. Oh well, I think it looks pretty cool (in a weird what the hell's that? sort of way). Suzie had a bit of a solo, and Jen was staring straight ahead whilst Suzie did her thing. Comments are always welcome. Be brave! I'll still like it, no matter what you say! Throw your worst at me! vbg Seriously, thanks in advance for looking and commenting, should you choose to do so. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
RE: DA 16/45 for CHEAP
That should read Christian? The gull guy? vbg -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 5:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DA 16/45 for CHEAP - Original Message - From: Don Sanderson Subject: RE: DA 16/45 for CHEAP http://tinyurl.com/5zwng trexxbirdbrain got it, I assume that isn't one of us? Birdbrain could only be one person that I know of.. William Robb
RE: PESO: Watching Suzie (another concert photo)
Frank, that's my favorite one so far. I would have guessed from the web pic that it was a composite of two frames. Very eye catching and , well, 'haunting'. Great shot. Don -Original Message- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 5:54 PM To: PDML Subject: PESO: Watching Suzie (another concert photo) This is from the same Pirate Jenny concert (the group that my friend Jennifer heads up) as the last two that I posted of this series: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2920209 I kind of hesitated posting this one, because it's a bit - well - offbeat. This particular show featured a couple of dancers, one of which (Suzie Burpee, FWIW), is in this photo. That's her OOF blond hair, sloping shoulder and upper arm in the upper centre of the frame. What I can't figure out, is why her lower body isn't shielding the vibraphones at the bottom. Oh well, I think it looks pretty cool (in a weird what the hell's that? sort of way). Suzie had a bit of a solo, and Jen was staring straight ahead whilst Suzie did her thing. Comments are always welcome. Be brave! I'll still like it, no matter what you say! Throw your worst at me! vbg Seriously, thanks in advance for looking and commenting, should you choose to do so. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: K50/1.2 - Be a smart shopper
I just got one recently from a store with an online presence for $150 that gave it a CLA before shipping it out as part of the deal! The barrel would probably rate as BGN condition at KEH, but the glass is lovely! And it is one big hunk of glass! Joe On Dec 17, 2004, at 1:18 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: Even KEH can sometimes be cheaper than the competition. Not often, but sometimes. One recently sold on eBay for $300. KEH has one for $286. Sincerely, C. Brendemuehl Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net
Re: PESO
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 21:02:48 -0600, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In honour of the ancient midwinter festival as was celebrated by my ancestors on my father's, mother's side of the family; The Picts.. Just kidding, all I know about the Picts I learned listening to Pink Floyd. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/peso/tree2004_with_flare.html Cotty, that is a bonafide flare on the hardwood floor. Taken with the A15mm at about 5 seconds. William Robb Your tree needs more lights and tinsel. vbg Glad to see you have a real tree, though. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
New Follw up to--- FA 28-70mm 1:4 AL Repair parts.
Forgot to call about this but hang in there, I'll staple a reminder to my forehead. OR one of you could remind me Monday. ;-) Don -Original Message- From: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 6:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Follw up to--- FA 28-70mm 1:4 AL Repair parts. Here is the response I recieved today from Pentax, I will try to call them tomorrow and see what they say. I'll post my results. Don * Don, Thank you for contacting Pentax Imaging, Co We are able to send repair parts anywhere within the USA. Please call our Repair Parts Department at (800) 877-0155 or FAX (303) 799-9213. They should be able to help you out with the parts you need for your lens. Thanks again, Mark Smith Pentax Imaging, Co *** -Original Message- From: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 7:25 AM To: PDML Subject: FA 28-70mm 1:4 AL Repair parts. I have placed a question to Pentax USA as to replacement elements for this lens. They are to get back to me with an answer, they think they may have a replacement for the element that seperates. So if you have one that has the foggy seperation in one of the rear elements hang on to it. I'll let you know what I find out. Don
