Re: Strange bedfellows

2005-01-23 Thread David Mann
On Jan 23, 2005, at 11:52 AM, Jens Bladt wrote:
On the shelf, the *ist Ds don't even look like a DSLR, in kind of 
blends in
with all the PS digies.
Oh yes, that reminds me.
This may or may not have been posted here before... I just saw it 
mentioned in New Scientist magazine.

http://www.dynamism.com/rolleiflex/
Cheers,
- Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/


RE: MZ-S: what is a good price ?

2005-01-23 Thread Jens Bladt
T me it's not really digital or film. It's both. Film for me is mostly MF,
though. If I could afford it, I'd certainly get myself a MZ-S again - it's a
brilliant camera. Perhaps I will some day.

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 23. januar 2005 01:21
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: MZ-S: what is a good price ?


 Thibouille wroteA; I'm considering a purchase. But these beast seem
pretty rare, even on Ebay..I sold my laptop so have a couple hundreds euros
to spend :) and in my
 opinion, digital is simply not mature enough.

Youre right where I was a year ago. Although you might say I was even more
commited to film because I was shooting almost all 6x7 MF film and a bit of
35mm film. Then a local pro showed me what he could do with 6.1 megapixel
digital files shot in RAW and converted in PhotoShop CS. If you have a
chance, you should look into the digital potential before you buy another
35mm film camera. I've been accused of crusading for digital. I'm not. I
hope we all continue to shoot film. But i feel obligated to caution anyone
who opts for an expensive 35mm film camera instead of digital. That's just
my opinion. Others will disagree.
Paul







RE: *istDS - first thoughts

2005-01-23 Thread Jens Bladt
Very nice photographs. It seem this is the camera for you!

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Derby Chang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 22. januar 2005 14:38
Til: Pentax Discuss
Emne: *istDS - first thoughts



Popped up some random thoughts about my first weekend with the *istDS.

http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~derbyc/1st_DS/first_shots.htm

D





Re: OT: Dog Stuff

2005-01-23 Thread Cotty
On 22/1/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

Wimp.
Thursday night, I blew out the compound at the club to make room for 
a dog rest area, and blew a path to our outdoor storage. Snow 
upwards of 3 feet deep, and hard blown enough to walk on. After 
supper, I took my dog to class.

[snip]

 after which I spent about 3 hours 
blowing the snow off our parking lot, which was a foot deep in fresh 
snow.

Don't you guys ever run out of breath with all this blowing?


Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_




Re: carrying cameras in London

2005-01-23 Thread Cotty
On 22/1/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

You don't really need to worry about getting robbed at gunpoint in
London, but in Oxford I believe you should be concerned that someone
might shoot you with their Canon :-P

There's a danger of drowning. In beer.




Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_




Re: OT: Dog Stuff

2005-01-23 Thread Bob W
Hi,

 after which I spent about 3 hours
blowing the snow off our parking lot, which was a foot deep in fresh
snow.

 Don't you guys ever run out of breath with all this blowing?

Not possible - this is the blowhard mailing list!

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob



PAW x2 - Tekapo and Moon

2005-01-23 Thread David Mann
Hi all,
It's been far too long since I last did a PAW.  Since I've done a 
little scanning lately here are a couple of panoramas.

First of all, a view of Lake Tekapo.  I know there needs to be more of 
the lake at left, but I wanted to keep the fog in the frame.

The colours may look a little bit wonky.  E100SW really wasn't the best 
choice of film.
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=22-Jan-2005

And the other pic is of the moon.
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=23-Jan-2005
I've printed both of these on 210mm roll paper and they look pretty 
nice.  I want to do the moon one even bigger, once I get the roll 
cutter attachment for my printer (I can cut 210mm manually but I'd 
rather not risk mishandling the big stuff).

Cheers,
- Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/


RE: Strange bedfellows

2005-01-23 Thread Jens Bladt
Very nice, Dave. Nice mocie as well. So, why does it have two lenses? 

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: David Mann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 23. januar 2005 09:33
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Strange bedfellows


On Jan 23, 2005, at 11:52 AM, Jens Bladt wrote:

 On the shelf, the *ist Ds don't even look like a DSLR, in kind of 
 blends in
 with all the PS digies.

Oh yes, that reminds me.

This may or may not have been posted here before... I just saw it 
mentioned in New Scientist magazine.

http://www.dynamism.com/rolleiflex/

Cheers,

- Dave

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/





Camera Lust!

2005-01-23 Thread Jens Bladt
PDML rules prevent me from posting a link for the auction, but...
Here's an AGFA Isolette CRF with a Solinar lens.
Beautiful and brilliant camera!
I'd really, really love to have this, but it's quite expensive :-(
It's a like new 6x6 camera with a coupled range finder and it will fit in
your pocket or camera bag, along with what else you carry for photographing.
All you need is a light meter (or a SLR)and film. You can have a 70
Megapixel camera in your pocket!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/3690842/


Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt





Joe have you received the PZ1 yet

2005-01-23 Thread Pentxuser
Hi Joe: I'm a little surprised you have not received the PZ1 yet. Or, maybe 
you have...
Vic 



Re: MZ-S: what is a good price ?

2005-01-23 Thread Thibouille
Well I already own quite a few bodies (at least for an amateur, I
really do not have much experience) and I really dunno if I should
spend money on an MZ-S.

I use (some are own by my brother but as he do not use them anyway...)

P30t
Z1 (not -p)
Super-A + MotorA
KX

Is a fifth one really worth it? Of course it would give me nearly up
to date AF, advanced flash functions and such. I think it depends on
price. After all, is the price is surprisingly good and I do not
really need it, I'm sure some PDMLers would be interested :)

An IST-Ds is 1000 Euros without lens here. And I'm sure in a year I'll
want to upgrade to the  latest digital Pentax. The MZ-S is the best
Pentax film body, period.

Mmm really, I dunno.

--
Thibouille



Still have a couple Gmail invitations...

2005-01-23 Thread Thibouille
I prefer giving them to the list rather than to unknown souls ;) 


Thibouille



Re: Calibrating for CCD/CMOS noise

2005-01-23 Thread Steve Jolly
The Pentax DSLRs will optionally do this for you automatically once the 
shutter speed drops below a certain threshold.

S
Frantisek wrote:
Hi,
   I don't remember this appearing here, but after some thought on how
   to reduce fixed noise in long exposure photos (where a lot of the
   noise is fixed and not random because of effects of additional
   circuitry and temperature), I found this very interesting article
   on photo.net exactly about this, reducing fixed/bias noise in
   sensors.
http://www.photo.net/learn/dark_noise/
   I will do some real world trying out, and post the results. Using
   GIMP or IMAGEMAGICK it could be even easier to automate the
   process.
Good light!
   fra



Did someone here get the bargain?

2005-01-23 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=3865834365ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT
You impress at a distance, but you impact a life up close. The closer the 
relationship the greater the impact.
Howard Hendricks



Re: PESO: The past times two

2005-01-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
Someone else asked the same question. I don't recall. It's possible 
that my cousin Kerstin, who is not in this picture, was recording their 
conversation. She's the unofficial family historian and may have asked 
Olle to interview Einar.
On Jan 22, 2005, at 11:41 PM, Gonz wrote:

Very nice Paul.  Its nice to have pics like this one.  I have some 
similar pics of my Grandfather that I need to scan and share.  What 
were they doing there?  It looks like they were recording the 
conversation as in an interview or something.

rg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I shot this in Sweden 25 years ago with a Fuji 801 and a Vivitar 
20/3.5 lens. (Wish I had a better wide angle at that time.) The two 
men in the photo are my uncle Olle and my great uncle Einar. This was 
the first time I met them. The location is the kitchen of the 
farmhouse where my father was born in 1906. Olle and Einar were 
talking when I walked in. They didn't see me, so I was able to get a 
candid photo. It was on tri-x. Scanned from the negative quite 
recently. It's here:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1789579size=lg




PAW: Lay-Z-Boy

2005-01-23 Thread David Chang-Sang
http://www.chang-sang.com/paw/  

The old beat up recliner was either being aired out or thrown away.
I do believe the latter rather than the former :)

Cheers
Dave




Re: Did someone here get the bargain?

2005-01-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
It's not exactly a steal. I sold the same lens recently. I think it  
brought about $130. While I like the M 100/2.8, it's probably the least  
desirable of the Pentax primes in the 100 to 120 range.
Paul
On Jan 23, 2005, at 8:02 AM, Collin R Brendemuehl wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? 
ViewItemrd=1item=3865834365ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT
You impress at a distance, but you impact a life up close. The closer  
the relationship the greater the impact.
Howard Hendricks




Re: PAW (PESO?): Street Festival, Little Italy

2005-01-23 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:18:28 -0800 (PST), Godfrey DiGiorgi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you wanted to be able to access your photos sensibly, you'd
 invest in some simple software that allows you to store them as
 thumbnails, title and categorize them for browsing and searches.
 And print out catalog pages as contact proofs, if that was
 your desire.
 
 I have nearly a hundred thousand photos in my file archive now.
 It's very easy to scan through them or search for photos created
 or modified around certain dates or events, locate exactly what
 I'm looking for, find things I'd forgotten. I can't imagine
 doing that with 2500 proof sheets anywhere near as efficiently.


Godfrey,

Thanks for the suggestions, but it just wouldn't work for me, for a
number of reasons that I need not get into here.

One thing that strikes me is that with my current process (if one
can call it that), contacts are a starting point.  With yours, they're
printed after quite a few steps in the process, so they (contacts)
would serve two completely different purposes.

I agree that it would be nice to have everything instantly available
and easily searched by, say, date, topic, event, whatever.  Of course,
I can easily search by date, as that's how I store my negs.  But, my
point about the joy of contacts is indeed the randomness of looking
through old ones.  Not knowing what I'll find, not looking for
anything in particular is fun and sometimes (but not always)
rewarding.  That's all I was trying to say.  Not to say that there are
numerous advantages to digital storage.

I like things I can hold in my hand.  They just make me feel comfortable.

cheers,
frank


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Strange bedfellows

2005-01-23 Thread ernreed2
Quoting David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Oh yes, that reminds me.
 
 This may or may not have been posted here before... I just saw it 
 mentioned in New Scientist magazine.
 
 http://www.dynamism.com/rolleiflex/


To each his own ...Cute toy, but I think I'll stick to the original ... :-)
(well, anyway the '50s version)

ERNR



Re: Camera Lust!

2005-01-23 Thread Keith Whaley
HI Jens,
I still have my Isolette III. It's the 6X6 cm,  2-window, non-coupled 
rangefinder version, made in 1952.
When I bought it, wanting a pocketable MF, I found the shutter a 
little unrealiable.
Since it needed a CLA anyhow, I sent it out, and the repairman found a 
leaky bellows.
Now, I couldn't sell it for anything like what I have in it, but it's a 
very nice camera, with an 85mm Apotar f/4.5 lens!
The Isolette is frequently overlooked, but it's a handy little folder!

keith whaley
Jens Bladt wrote:
PDML rules prevent me from posting a link for the auction, but...
Here's an AGFA Isolette CRF with a Solinar lens.
Beautiful and brilliant camera!
I'd really, really love to have this, but it's quite expensive :-(
It's a like new 6x6 camera with a coupled range finder and it will fit in
your pocket or camera bag, along with what else you carry for photographing.
All you need is a light meter (or a SLR)and film. You can have a 70
Megapixel camera in your pocket!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/3690842/
Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt





Re: PAW: Lay-Z-Boy

2005-01-23 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:26:01 -0500, David Chang-Sang
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.chang-sang.com/paw/
 
 The old beat up recliner was either being aired out or thrown away.
 I do believe the latter rather than the former :)
 
 Cheers
 Dave

Fraser finally got his way and bought Martin a new easy chair?  vbg

Seriously, I like this photo, Dave.  It may sound sily, but there's a
certain poignancy to it.  I especially like the inclusion of the oil
drum in the background.  I also like the way the poor chair is tilted;
 after years of good service, it can no longer fulfill it's purpose as
a chair.

I like your choice of a smallish aperture for a sharp background.  
The stark, shabby background adds much to the shot, IMHO.

BW is the perfect medium for this shot.

Judging by the lack of white-stuff on the ground, it wasn't shot
yesterday!  vbg

Nice capture.

cheers,
frank


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO: The past times two

2005-01-23 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:35:47 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I shot this in Sweden 25 years ago with a Fuji 801 and a Vivitar 20/3.5 lens. 
 (Wish I had a better wide angle at that time.) The two men in the photo are 
 my uncle Olle and my great uncle Einar. This was the first time I met them. 
 The location is the kitchen of the farmhouse where my father was born in 
 1906. Olle and Einar were talking when I walked in. They didn't see me, so I 
 was able to get a candid photo. It was on tri-x. Scanned from the negative 
 quite recently. It's here:
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1789579size=lg
 

What a great shot!!

From the shot, I'm guessing that this kitchen is the most important
room in the house - it looks so lived in, the exact opposite of
these designer kitchens that we see on all the cable network
designer shows.  I bet these two old fellows spent many an hour seated
right where they are in your photo, debating each other, pondering
life.

Terrific stuff.

cheers,
frank


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Did someone here get the bargain?

2005-01-23 Thread Keith Whaley

Paul Stenquist wrote:
It's not exactly a steal. I sold the same lens recently. I think it  
brought about $130. While I like the M 100/2.8, it's probably the least  
desirable of the Pentax primes in the 100 to 120 range.
Paul
I tend to agree...
Somewhere I read that the critical aperture is f/16.0!
And at that, it only resolves 51-57  l/mm.
Hardly a world beater!
keith whaley
On Jan 23, 2005, at 8:02 AM, Collin R Brendemuehl wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=3865834365ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT



Re: OT: Let it Snow, Let it Snow, Let it Snow

2005-01-23 Thread Fred Widall
I was too busy trying to clear the snow to do much shooting
but I did snap this one of my neighbour and his snowblower
through my kitchen window.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/fwwidall/3694575/

A Canadian moment brought to you courtesy of my *ist-DS  FA28-90mm.
--
 Fred Widall,
 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 URL: http://www.ist.uwaterloo.ca/~fwwidall
--



Re: Camera Lust!

2005-01-23 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:01:13 +0100, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 PDML rules prevent me from posting a link for the auction, but...
 Here's an AGFA Isolette CRF with a Solinar lens.
 Beautiful and brilliant camera!
 I'd really, really love to have this, but it's quite expensive :-(
 It's a like new 6x6 camera with a coupled range finder and it will fit in
 your pocket or camera bag, along with what else you carry for photographing.
 All you need is a light meter (or a SLR)and film. You can have a 70
 Megapixel camera in your pocket!
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/3690842/
 

I could be wrong, but my understanding is that the guidelines (I
hesitate to call them rules) suggest that it's inappropriate to post
ongoing eBay auctions of Pentax gear, the operative words being
ongoing and Pentax.  AFAIK, we are more than welcome to post
closed auctions, or auctions of non-Pentaxia.

Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

BTW, sounds like a cool camera.  Is it a folder?  You gonna bid on it?

cheers,
frank


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Digital anguish

2005-01-23 Thread Peter Smekal
Hi all,
it funny how one can get affected by everyone going digital, and by all
talk about film being dead, or at least dying. So lately I've been thinking
about trying to get an *ist D as long as some still are on the market. It
seems to be not so unlike the PZ-1p/Z-1p with its Hyperprogram which I like
and use a lot. One never knows what the next Pentax DSLR will look like,
but probably (?) less like the PZ-1p/Z-1p than the *ist D.
But then again I wonder if the *ist D is that practical when you are
travelling (which is when I'm doing most of my photographing). My LX, ME
Super and PZ-1p/Z-1p have been rather trustworthy travel companions.
And then I see all the slides, colour and b+w films I've shot during the
years in different parts of the world, and start to wonder if it wouldn't
be better to go digital by scanning and work on the best of all those pics
to begin with.
Well, maybe its just sad to put some great gear into retirement (I'm pretty
sure once I've managed to get a *ist D I will be toying around with it most
of the time).
Any advice?
BTW What would you recommend as a good Mac-compatible scanner?
Peter, Sweden




Re: OT: Let it Snow, Let it Snow, Let it Snow

2005-01-23 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 09:06:56 -0500 (EST), Fred Widall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I was too busy trying to clear the snow to do much shooting
 but I did snap this one of my neighbour and his snowblower
 through my kitchen window.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/fwwidall/3694575/
 
 A Canadian moment brought to you courtesy of my *ist-DS  FA28-90mm.

Nice one, Fred!!

Luckily, I have no driveway (the semi I live in was constructed around
1920, and I guess that places for cars for the working-class weren't a
priority with builders).  I just had to shovel a bit of sidewalk.  In
fact, our houses are so narrow that I shovelled the walkway of the
neighbours on either side (they do it for us, as well - nice
neighbourhood).  I shovelled three times, though, as it kept piling
up, and three small jobs seemed easier than one big one.

cheers,
frank
-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Has anyone used the Canon 8400F scanner?

2005-01-23 Thread Marcel Bourque
Hi;
I'm considering buying a Canon 8400F scanner and wondered if any PDML 
members had any experience with this scanner.

Regards;
Marcel


Re: OT: Happy to be home

2005-01-23 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:12:37 -0500, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Glad you made it home. The weather is definitely a problem for the
 midwest, north central, and northeast. Here in Michigan, we have
 about ten inches of new snow.
 
 We got about 5 inches here in Pittsburgh and you'd think the city had
 been evacuated! Quite amusing to someone who used to live in Rochester
 :) There's a big football game here tomorrow so I hope they get the
 streets cleared by then.
 

Mark,

It's NFL Football.  It's the playoffs.  They'll get there if they have
to walk through waist-deep snow...

cheers,
frank


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: OT: Happy to be home

2005-01-23 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:19:40 -0600, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Lynn  I started today in Washington, DC visiting my daughter at GWU
 and seeing some of the Inauguration on Thursday.  They were
 threatening 4-7 inches of snow today in DC, so we were happy to be on
 the 9:30 AM flight to Chicago.
 
 After a $50 Taxi ride to Dulles International at 7 AM, United Airlines
 told us the flight was canceled and the next was 9:45 PM into Chicago.
  I inquired about Regan National Airport, and they got us on a 10:30
 AM flight, so another $50 Taxi ride BACK INTO the city (same salt
 trucks parked along the interstate waiting for the snow to start) and
 then a wrestling match with the self-service ticketing machines and a
 call on the HELP hand set installed next to the machine and it finally
 gave up two boarding passes.
 
 I think we were more successful than most, as it proved to be the last
 flight into Chicago and we got two aisle seats.  Departure was delayed
 until 11:20 AM as the equipment was late.  Seems the original pilot
 got stuck in a ditch on the way to the airport.  They offered free
 tickets to 4 travelers who were willing to delay departure until
 tomorrow to accomodate some international travelers connecting thru
 Chicago.
 
 We insturment landed at O'hare to 1/4 mile visibility and plenty of
 snow.  It's snowing to beat the band now and I've got 6 inches on the
 driveway despite evidence that the neighbor ran the snowblower over it
 sometime in the past 24 hours.  This is a pretty good storm as it
 stretches some 1,000 miles from Chicago to Washington, DC.
 
 Regards,  Bob S.
 

Did you bump into bath-curtain-ring salesman along the way?  vbg 
Sounds like you lived your own version of Planes, Trains and
Automobiles.  Glad to hear you guys got home safe and sound.

cheers,
frank


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO - Making Espresso (was: Re: OT-Coffee Theory)

2005-01-23 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 06:43:17 -0800 (PST), Gianfranco Irlanda
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Lovely shot!  Of course, you took the Greatest Coffee Photo of
 all
  time:  the one you submitted to PUG a couple of years ago with
 the
  bubbles on the top of the coffee shaped like set jewels.
 vbg
 
 LOL!
 
  I like this one, though.
 
 Thanks for the kind words, Frank!
 
 Gianfranco
 

Just in case anyone doubts my earlier contention, for the benefit of
those of you who are recent PDML'ers, and for the general enjoyment of
all others, here is the Gianfranco's photo to which I referred:

http://pug.komkon.org/01may/Bolle3.html

Stunning, no?

g

cheers,
frank



Re: carrying cameras in London

2005-01-23 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:03:45 -0800, Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A month ago I was in London, with my istD, Leica M6 and a Domke bag.
 No problems at all--actually I never even thought about safety.
 


Ah, but you black-tape over the logos, so bandits don't know what you
really brandish.

OTOH, to make a Pentax robber-proof, maybe it's best to leave the logo intact...

LOL

-frank

-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Camera Lust!

2005-01-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
What Frank said.
On Jan 23, 2005, at 9:11 AM, frank theriault wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:01:13 +0100, Jens Bladt 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
PDML rules prevent me from posting a link for the auction, but...
Here's an AGFA Isolette CRF with a Solinar lens.
Beautiful and brilliant camera!
I'd really, really love to have this, but it's quite expensive :-(
It's a like new 6x6 camera with a coupled range finder and it will 
fit in
your pocket or camera bag, along with what else you carry for 
photographing.
All you need is a light meter (or a SLR)and film. You can have a 70
Megapixel camera in your pocket!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/3690842/

I could be wrong, but my understanding is that the guidelines (I
hesitate to call them rules) suggest that it's inappropriate to post
ongoing eBay auctions of Pentax gear, the operative words being
ongoing and Pentax.  AFAIK, we are more than welcome to post
closed auctions, or auctions of non-Pentaxia.
Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
BTW, sounds like a cool camera.  Is it a folder?  You gonna bid on it?
cheers,
frank
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Digital anguish

2005-01-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
I find the *istD is a great traveling companion. I no longer have to 
pack film or worry about processing. I bring my i-book computer along 
and process shots at my leisure. On work trips, this gives me something 
to do during those hotel room evenings.
Paul
On Jan 23, 2005, at 9:11 AM, Peter Smekal wrote:

Hi all,
it funny how one can get affected by everyone going digital, and by all
talk about film being dead, or at least dying. So lately I've been 
thinking
about trying to get an *ist D as long as some still are on the market. 
It
seems to be not so unlike the PZ-1p/Z-1p with its Hyperprogram which I 
like
and use a lot. One never knows what the next Pentax DSLR will look 
like,
but probably (?) less like the PZ-1p/Z-1p than the *ist D.
But then again I wonder if the *ist D is that practical when you are
travelling (which is when I'm doing most of my photographing). My LX, 
ME
Super and PZ-1p/Z-1p have been rather trustworthy travel companions.
And then I see all the slides, colour and b+w films I've shot during 
the
years in different parts of the world, and start to wonder if it 
wouldn't
be better to go digital by scanning and work on the best of all those 
pics
to begin with.
Well, maybe its just sad to put some great gear into retirement (I'm 
pretty
sure once I've managed to get a *ist D I will be toying around with it 
most
of the time).
Any advice?
BTW What would you recommend as a good Mac-compatible scanner?
Peter, Sweden





Re: Camera Lust!

2005-01-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
By the way, I have my father's old Agfa Isolette in my camera display 
case. He purchased it in Sweden in 1952, so it's not the CRF. I've 
never shot a roll of film with it but plan on doing that some time 
soon. I only recently acquired the camera. It was buried in a box of 
junk at my mother's house for the last twenty years. I cleaned the 
lens, and the glass looks nice. So it should be capable of decent 
performance. Focus on these early models is by scale and the lens is 
marked only in meters, so I'll have to get out my thinking cap for this 
one.
Paul
On Jan 23, 2005, at 9:46 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

What Frank said.
On Jan 23, 2005, at 9:11 AM, frank theriault wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:01:13 +0100, Jens Bladt 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
PDML rules prevent me from posting a link for the auction, but...
Here's an AGFA Isolette CRF with a Solinar lens.
Beautiful and brilliant camera!
I'd really, really love to have this, but it's quite expensive :-(
It's a like new 6x6 camera with a coupled range finder and it will 
fit in
your pocket or camera bag, along with what else you carry for 
photographing.
All you need is a light meter (or a SLR)and film. You can have a 70
Megapixel camera in your pocket!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/3690842/

I could be wrong, but my understanding is that the guidelines (I
hesitate to call them rules) suggest that it's inappropriate to post
ongoing eBay auctions of Pentax gear, the operative words being
ongoing and Pentax.  AFAIK, we are more than welcome to post
closed auctions, or auctions of non-Pentaxia.
Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
BTW, sounds like a cool camera.  Is it a folder?  You gonna bid on it?
cheers,
frank
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson




Re: OT: Happy to be home

2005-01-23 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Mark,

It's NFL Football.  It's the playoffs.  They'll get there if they have
to walk through waist-deep snow...

I'm starting to get the gist. Look at what was on the front page of the
newspaper yesterday:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05022/446555.stm

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: Calibrating for CCD/CMOS noise

2005-01-23 Thread Herb Chong
in fact, i don't see why it has to be done on the 10D in the article at all 
since it should have the same type of NR firmware as the *istD. dark field 
subtraction of an image taken immediately afterwards will be slightly 
noisier and not as clean as using a dark field from after the sensor has 
cooled for a while, but i have not had any noise problems after taking a 
succession of 10-20 second exposures at ISO 200 on the *istD.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 7:54 AM
Subject: Re: Calibrating for CCD/CMOS noise


The Pentax DSLRs will optionally do this for you automatically once the 
shutter speed drops below a certain threshold.



Re: MZ-S: what is a good price ?

2005-01-23 Thread ernreed2
Quoting Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 want to upgrade to the  latest digital Pentax. The MZ-S is the best
 Pentax film body, period.

You think so? Of 35mm film bodies, I would have thought the PZ-1p a contender 
for best, and the PZ-1 very, very close to it.
I mention this in case it helps you feel happier about what you have in hand, 
but it is my honest opinion.

ERNR




Re: *istDS - first thoughts

2005-01-23 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:28:18 +, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Nice pics and report Derby.
 

I concur with my friend from Oxford.

-frank 

PS:  that ~is~ where you live, right?



-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



OT: Let it Snow, Let it Snow, Let it Snow

2005-01-23 Thread frank theriault
We had what the weather forecasters now call a snow event yesterday
here in Toronto.  I think the same storm also hit much of the MIdwest
and Northeast US, so Paul, Ken and any other Michiganders (haven't
seen Mark Cassino much lately, have we?) must have got hit, too.

They were calling for over 12 inches, but this morning they said we
only got around 7 - looking out the window, it sure looks like close
to 10 or 12.  Winds were high (40 km per hour - it wasn't a
blizzard, which needs 50 km/h winds) and lowish temps (-17 C, with
wind chill in the -30's) made for a fun day.

I mean, literally, a fun day.

I bought a Metro Pass, which allows me all day access to Toronto's
excellent transit system, and took the street car and subway all
around town, whilst luckless drivers slid their way about.  Of course,
a camera was mandatory in such conditions, and I got lots of cliche
people trying to walk along, hands holding their collars to their
face while the wind tugs at their coats, snow whipping by them shots.
 Hopefully, some of them will turn out.  Most people walking by were
so busy trying to negotiate the wind and snow they didn't even notice
my camera.

Today's beautiful and sunny.  Should be lots more photo ops out there.  

Anyone else out there shooting in the snow this weekend?

cheers,
frank
-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: OT: Happy to be home

2005-01-23 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:18:18 -0500, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Mark,
 
 It's NFL Football.  It's the playoffs.  They'll get there if they have
 to walk through waist-deep snow...
 
 I'm starting to get the gist. Look at what was on the front page of the
 newspaper yesterday:
 http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05022/446555.stm
 

Tell the truth, Mark, that's a pic of you getting ready for today's game, right?

vbg

-frank

-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO: 2003

2005-01-23 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:39:52 -0800, Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Taking pictures of people's backs is one of the biggest problems of
 shy street photographers. Sometimes I fall into that, it seems like
 it's a way to lie to myself and say that I've taken the picture. This
 pictures rarely work.
 
 Now, looking at some pictures from a couple of years ago, I found this:
 
 http://www.jbuhler.com/blog/archives/0175.html
 
 (M6, Summicron 50mm, Tri-X)
 
 I think this one does work somehow.
 
 Opinions welcome.
 

...Proving once again that sometimes breaking the rules works, if
you break them the right way.

Regardless of whether you can see their faces or not, you captured a
moment.  In fact, probably better not to see their faces, as this
angle only enhances the intimacy and privacy of what they're sharing,
IMHO.

Quite lovely.

cheers,
frank 


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Film may not be dead...

2005-01-23 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:32:30 -0600 (CST), [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip In many ways
 professional photography is only tangentially about actual photography.snip

I would never presume to tell Mr. Roberts (one of my favourite movies
of all time, BTW g) how to compile his annual list of PDML Quotes,
but surely here's an early contender!!

cheers,
frank


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Camera Lust!

2005-01-23 Thread Fred
 I could be wrong, but my understanding is that the guidelines (I
 hesitate to call them rules) suggest that it's inappropriate to post
 ongoing eBay auctions of Pentax gear, the operative words being ongoing
 and Pentax.  AFAIK, we are more than welcome to post closed auctions,
 or auctions of non-Pentaxia. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

Just my opinion, but I would hope that the prohibition would also include
3rd-party lenses with Pentax mounts.

Fred




Re: OT: Let it Snow, Let it Snow, Let it Snow

2005-01-23 Thread Fred
 I was too busy trying to clear the snow to do much shooting but I did
 snap this one of my neighbour and his snowblower through my kitchen
 window.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/fwwidall/3694575/

 A Canadian moment brought to you courtesy of my *ist-DS  FA28-90mm.

And, just the hint of red color from the blower in an otherwise bw image
is kinda nice - g.

Fred




Re: Which would you keep

2005-01-23 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 06:16:35 -0500, Collin R Brendemuehl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Here's the scenario:
 Like everyone else, I'm looking at serious digital.
 And having two good 135 film bodies may not be necessary.
 (It'll be only for black  white.)
 
 The two are:
 Black MX / winder.
 Super Program / winder.
 
 Which would you part with  why?
 Which would you keep  why?
 
 (Personally, I think Super Program will outlast MX
 but the MX feels nicer.  Tough decision.  Or keep them
 both knowing that sooner or later one will need replaced.)
 

I know I'm echoing what many have already said, but I'd keep both. The
amount you can fetch for a 35mm film body for these days is often much
less than its actual worth as an photographic instrument.

Which of these two bodies is more likely to crap out earlier is hard
to determine at this point, all we know is that it's gonna happen
someday, maybe sooner, maybe later.

Both could be potential pigs to repair, given the growing scarcity of
parts and donor bodies.

I'd keep both.  They'll make good back-ups for each other in the event
of an unrepairable failure.

cheers,
frank

-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Camera Lust!

2005-01-23 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:21:09 -0500, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I could be wrong, but my understanding is that the guidelines (I
  hesitate to call them rules) suggest that it's inappropriate to post
  ongoing eBay auctions of Pentax gear, the operative words being ongoing
  and Pentax.  AFAIK, we are more than welcome to post closed auctions,
  or auctions of non-Pentaxia. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
 
 Just my opinion, but I would hope that the prohibition would also include
 3rd-party lenses with Pentax mounts.
 
 Fred

FWIW, I think that's fair.

-frank


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Digital anguish

2005-01-23 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/23/2005 6:13:43 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well, maybe its just sad to put some great gear into retirement (I'm pretty
sure once I've managed to get a *ist D I will be toying around with it most
of the time).
Any advice?
BTW What would you recommend as a good Mac-compatible scanner?
Peter, Sweden
=
You're going through a natural process. It's called grief. Allow yourself 
time and be gentle with yourself.

Marnie aka Doe ;-)



RE: Camera Lust!

2005-01-23 Thread Jens Bladt
No' I'm not gonna bid on it. With that kind of money IO could get a decent
wide-zoom for the *ist D (to replace my faulty Tokina  AT-X 28-70mm - wich
is at the repair shop currently ). With 4 hours left and 270 GBP it could go
above 500 USD. However there's one more, a little less nice (judging from
the photographs) - 6 days left at currebtly 150 GBP.
However, I have bid for a Non Coupled Isolette III, which is quite as good,
but less convenient and not as fast to use.

I already have a Agfa Record (6x9), but unfortunately not the best one, wich
has a Solinar lens, which is better than any Agnar or Apotar. The best one
is called Record III and is range4finder and usually as expensive as the
Isolette CRF.

The only real compeditors are the old Zeiss Ikon metered rangefinders.
They are quite expensive and bulky.
Even Zeiss Jena (DDR) made some 6x6 ramgefinders, but they quite rare and
often faulty.

Jens Bladt


mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 23. januar 2005 15:46
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Camera Lust!


What Frank said.

On Jan 23, 2005, at 9:11 AM, frank theriault wrote:

 On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:01:13 +0100, Jens Bladt
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 PDML rules prevent me from posting a link for the auction, but...
 Here's an AGFA Isolette CRF with a Solinar lens.
 Beautiful and brilliant camera!
 I'd really, really love to have this, but it's quite expensive :-(
 It's a like new 6x6 camera with a coupled range finder and it will
 fit in
 your pocket or camera bag, along with what else you carry for
 photographing.
 All you need is a light meter (or a SLR)and film. You can have a 70
 Megapixel camera in your pocket!
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/3690842/


 I could be wrong, but my understanding is that the guidelines (I
 hesitate to call them rules) suggest that it's inappropriate to post
 ongoing eBay auctions of Pentax gear, the operative words being
 ongoing and Pentax.  AFAIK, we are more than welcome to post
 closed auctions, or auctions of non-Pentaxia.

 Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

 BTW, sounds like a cool camera.  Is it a folder?  You gonna bid on it?

 cheers,
 frank


 --
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson






RE: Camera Lust!

2005-01-23 Thread Jens Bladt
Give it a try!
I often want to shoot 6x6 on the side, but I rarely want to carry the
bulky Pentacon Six, which can actually make professional quality
photographs - that is if it's not at home stittng in it's huge Protector
Case.
A nice 6x6 folding camera can go in the *ist D bag or a pocket anytime!

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 23. januar 2005 15:54
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Camera Lust!


By the way, I have my father's old Agfa Isolette in my camera display
case. He purchased it in Sweden in 1952, so it's not the CRF. I've
never shot a roll of film with it but plan on doing that some time
soon. I only recently acquired the camera. It was buried in a box of
junk at my mother's house for the last twenty years. I cleaned the
lens, and the glass looks nice. So it should be capable of decent
performance. Focus on these early models is by scale and the lens is
marked only in meters, so I'll have to get out my thinking cap for this
one.
Paul
On Jan 23, 2005, at 9:46 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 What Frank said.

 On Jan 23, 2005, at 9:11 AM, frank theriault wrote:

 On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:01:13 +0100, Jens Bladt
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 PDML rules prevent me from posting a link for the auction, but...
 Here's an AGFA Isolette CRF with a Solinar lens.
 Beautiful and brilliant camera!
 I'd really, really love to have this, but it's quite expensive :-(
 It's a like new 6x6 camera with a coupled range finder and it will
 fit in
 your pocket or camera bag, along with what else you carry for
 photographing.
 All you need is a light meter (or a SLR)and film. You can have a 70
 Megapixel camera in your pocket!
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/3690842/


 I could be wrong, but my understanding is that the guidelines (I
 hesitate to call them rules) suggest that it's inappropriate to post
 ongoing eBay auctions of Pentax gear, the operative words being
 ongoing and Pentax.  AFAIK, we are more than welcome to post
 closed auctions, or auctions of non-Pentaxia.

 Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

 BTW, sounds like a cool camera.  Is it a folder?  You gonna bid on it?

 cheers,
 frank


 --
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson







Re: PAW (PESO?): Street Festival, Little Italy

2005-01-23 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/23/2005 5:36:26 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I like things I can hold in my hand.  They just make me feel comfortable.

cheers,
frank
===
Ditto. It's why I like books and not ebooks (and why, I think, ebooks have 
never really taken off). For me it's the one negative aspect of a DSLR. Sure, I 
could print them all out -- but that would take a lot of time, a lot, lot, and 
also I wouldn't want to really bother for the bad ones (too dark, badly 
focused, etc. -- the truly bad ones).

OTOH, I love not scanning and not having to worry about dust. And being able 
to set the ISO, WTB, etc. And not scanning (let me repeat that a couple of 
times because I really love not having to scan. No scanning! :-))

Everything has a downside and an upside.

Though I am thinking about printing contact sheets for all my digital pics.

Marnie aka Doe :-)



RE: Camera Lust!

2005-01-23 Thread Jens Bladt
I wrote:
Even Zeiss Jena (DDR) made some 6x6 ramgefinders, but they quite rare and
often faulty.
Just remembered. They are called Certo. Ther's one at ebay now - 375 USD

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 23. januar 2005 17:04
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: RE: Camera Lust!


No' I'm not gonna bid on it. With that kind of money IO could get a decent
wide-zoom for the *ist D (to replace my faulty Tokina  AT-X 28-70mm - wich
is at the repair shop currently ). With 4 hours left and 270 GBP it could go
above 500 USD. However there's one more, a little less nice (judging from
the photographs) - 6 days left at currebtly 150 GBP.
However, I have bid for a Non Coupled Isolette III, which is quite as good,
but less convenient and not as fast to use.

I already have a Agfa Record (6x9), but unfortunately not the best one, wich
has a Solinar lens, which is better than any Agnar or Apotar. The best one
is called Record III and is range4finder and usually as expensive as the
Isolette CRF.

The only real compeditors are the old Zeiss Ikon metered rangefinders.
They are quite expensive and bulky.
Even Zeiss Jena (DDR) made some 6x6 ramgefinders, but they quite rare and
often faulty.

Jens Bladt





PP: Digital Grain

2005-01-23 Thread Eactivist
PP = post processing

I was visiting the Adobe site recently looking through the actions people 
have uploaded (to share) for PS. Discovered a few that would add grain to 
digital 
pictures. 

I wondered has anyone on the list tried that? Adding grain, that is. Not 
necessarily those specific actions at the Adobe site that supposedly add grain.

Just curious. Somehow I don't think it would work that well.

Marnie aka Doe :-)



RE: [pdml] OT: Let it Snow, Let it Snow, Let it Snow

2005-01-23 Thread David Chang-Sang
Today's screaming for chrome film that will be cross processed :)
The colour in the sky and such should make for an interesting mix.

I may venture out a bit later and snap off some in the downtown area.
I think the camera of choice will be the Olympus XA :)

Cheers
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 8:45 AM
 To: PDML
 Subject: [pdml] OT: Let it Snow, Let it Snow, Let it Snow
 
 
 We had what the weather forecasters now call a snow event yesterday
 here in Toronto.  I think the same storm also hit much of the MIdwest
 and Northeast US, so Paul, Ken and any other Michiganders (haven't
 seen Mark Cassino much lately, have we?) must have got hit, too.
 
 They were calling for over 12 inches, but this morning they said we
 only got around 7 - looking out the window, it sure looks like close
 to 10 or 12.  Winds were high (40 km per hour - it wasn't a
 blizzard, which needs 50 km/h winds) and lowish temps (-17 C, with
 wind chill in the -30's) made for a fun day.
 
 I mean, literally, a fun day.
 
 I bought a Metro Pass, which allows me all day access to Toronto's
 excellent transit system, and took the street car and subway all
 around town, whilst luckless drivers slid their way about.  Of course,
 a camera was mandatory in such conditions, and I got lots of cliche
 people trying to walk along, hands holding their collars to their
 face while the wind tugs at their coats, snow whipping by them shots.
  Hopefully, some of them will turn out.  Most people walking by were
 so busy trying to negotiate the wind and snow they didn't even notice
 my camera.
 
 Today's beautiful and sunny.  Should be lots more photo ops out there.  
 
 Anyone else out there shooting in the snow this weekend?
 
 cheers,
 frank
 -- 
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
 
 
 
 



Re: Camera Lust!

2005-01-23 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I understood it to mean all ongoing auctions ... and, if there's to be a
prohibition about Pentax gear and third-party lenses, then the
prohibition should be extended to cameras that use Pentax lenses, filters
that fit on lenses that can be used on Pentax cameras, straps, cases, caps,
and so on, including ephemera.  

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  I could be wrong, but my understanding is that the guidelines (I
  hesitate to call them rules) suggest that it's inappropriate to post
  ongoing eBay auctions of Pentax gear, the operative words being
ongoing
  and Pentax.  AFAIK, we are more than welcome to post closed auctions,
  or auctions of non-Pentaxia. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

 Just my opinion, but I would hope that the prohibition would also
include
 3rd-party lenses with Pentax mounts.

 Fred





RE: [pdml] Re: PAW: Lay-Z-Boy

2005-01-23 Thread David Chang-Sang
Thanks Frank :)

It was across the street from The Canary Restaurant down there by Front and
Cherry.
I was running a test roll through the K1000 and I too thought it was an
interesting still life.

Thanks for the comment :)

Cheers
Dave


 -Original Message-
 From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 8:50 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: [pdml] Re: PAW: Lay-Z-Boy


 On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:26:01 -0500, David Chang-Sang
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  http://www.chang-sang.com/paw/
 
  The old beat up recliner was either being aired out or thrown away.
  I do believe the latter rather than the former :)
 
  Cheers
  Dave

 Fraser finally got his way and bought Martin a new easy chair?  vbg

 Seriously, I like this photo, Dave.  It may sound sily, but there's a
 certain poignancy to it.  I especially like the inclusion of the oil
 drum in the background.  I also like the way the poor chair is tilted;
  after years of good service, it can no longer fulfill it's purpose as
 a chair.

 I like your choice of a smallish aperture for a sharp background.
 The stark, shabby background adds much to the shot, IMHO.

 BW is the perfect medium for this shot.

 Judging by the lack of white-stuff on the ground, it wasn't shot
 yesterday!  vbg

 Nice capture.

 cheers,
 frank


 --
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson








RE: [pdml] PAW x2 - Tekapo and Moon

2005-01-23 Thread David Chang-Sang
Whoa...

The E100 series of film can be quite decent but you're probably right with
resepct to the SW rather than say, perhaps, the VS.

Still... that shot of the moon is incredible and I can instantly see that
print matted and framed.

Great landscapes, both of them, but I'm thinking the Moon is a winner imho.

Cheers
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: David Mann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 4:29 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: [pdml] PAW x2 - Tekapo and Moon


 Hi all,

 It's been far too long since I last did a PAW.  Since I've done a
 little scanning lately here are a couple of panoramas.

 First of all, a view of Lake Tekapo.  I know there needs to be more of
 the lake at left, but I wanted to keep the fog in the frame.

 The colours may look a little bit wonky.  E100SW really wasn't the best
 choice of film.
 http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=22-Jan-2005

 And the other pic is of the moon.
 http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=23-Jan-2005

 I've printed both of these on 210mm roll paper and they look pretty
 nice.  I want to do the moon one even bigger, once I get the roll
 cutter attachment for my printer (I can cut 210mm manually but I'd
 rather not risk mishandling the big stuff).

 Cheers,

 - Dave

 http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/








Re: [pdml] Re: PAW: Lay-Z-Boy

2005-01-23 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:19:00 -0500, David Chang-Sang
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks Frank :)
 
 It was across the street from The Canary Restaurant down there by Front and
 Cherry.
 I was running a test roll through the K1000 and I too thought it was an
 interesting still life.
 
 Thanks for the comment :)
 


I know exactly the corner you refer to.  I still don't have a shot of
the Canary that I'm happy with, but maybe one day, before they tear it
down, I'll get it.  They just don't make neon signs like that anymore.
 g

The Canary is one of the restaurants of Toronto that I haven't been
into, and perhaps never will...

cheers,
frank
-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO: Friday at a bar

2005-01-23 Thread brooksdj
Very nice IMNSHOg

I like the slight tilt to the frame,and the golden hue in the girls hair. 
Something i
missed at
first was the blurred hand folding of her.
I like the expression,one of seeking solitude in a public place.

Good job again Jaun

Dave   

 The beauty of digital--sometimes things work 
better in color:
 
 http://www.jbuhler.com/blog/archives/0166.html
 
 ist D, FA35/2, ISO3200, 1/20 at f2

 Juan Buhler
 http://www.jbuhler.com
 blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog
 






Re: Digital Grain

2005-01-23 Thread Herb Chong
it makes digital images look like film. sometimes i add digital grain to 
mask editing artifacts. not often though. i shoot digital because i don't 
want film grain.

Herb...
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 11:12 AM
Subject: PP: Digital Grain


I was visiting the Adobe site recently looking through the actions people
have uploaded (to share) for PS. Discovered a few that would add grain to 
digital
pictures.

I wondered has anyone on the list tried that? Adding grain, that is. Not
necessarily those specific actions at the Adobe site that supposedly add 
grain.



Re: Digital Holga

2005-01-23 Thread brooksdj
Glad my 6x7 does not priduce that.LOL

Very nice effect.

Dave

 I processed yesterday's dog pic to make it 
look like it was taken with a
Holga:
 
 http://www.jbuhler.com/blog/archives/0169.html
 
 I think it's an interesting look. I'm going to try to get something
 like this on camera, maybe using a busted M40/1.4 I have laying
 around...
 
 j
 
 -- 
 Juan Buhler
 http://www.jbuhler.com
 blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog
 






RE: [pdml] The Canary - WAS: PAW: Lay-Z-Boy

2005-01-23 Thread David Chang-Sang
I've never been in.. I've tried a number of times to photograph it.. and I
finally got images that will make a decent triptych. All were cropped down
to 5x5 and then run through the Holga Filter and Sepia in photoshop.  It
only seemed like the right thing to do for the age, and state, of that
restaurant.

http://www.chang-sang.com/photo/lj/users/nexus/060105/crop038_holga.jpg
http://www.chang-sang.com/photo/lj/users/nexus/060105/crop040_holga.jpg
http://www.chang-sang.com/photo/lj/users/nexus/060105/crop041_holga.jpg

In that order.

Cheers
Dave


 -Original Message-
 From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 11:24 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: [pdml] Re: PAW: Lay-Z-Boy


 On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:19:00 -0500, David Chang-Sang
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks Frank :)
 
  It was across the street from The Canary Restaurant down there
 by Front and
  Cherry.
  I was running a test roll through the K1000 and I too thought it was an
  interesting still life.
 
  Thanks for the comment :)
 
 

 I know exactly the corner you refer to.  I still don't have a shot of
 the Canary that I'm happy with, but maybe one day, before they tear it
 down, I'll get it.  They just don't make neon signs like that anymore.
  g

 The Canary is one of the restaurants of Toronto that I haven't been
 into, and perhaps never will...

 cheers,
 frank
 --
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson








Re: Strange bedfellows

2005-01-23 Thread Peter J. Alling
Obviously to look like a Rollei...
Jens Bladt wrote:
Very nice, Dave. Nice mocie as well. So, why does it have two lenses? 

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: David Mann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 23. januar 2005 09:33
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Strange bedfellows
On Jan 23, 2005, at 11:52 AM, Jens Bladt wrote:
 

On the shelf, the *ist Ds don't even look like a DSLR, in kind of 
blends in
with all the PS digies.
   

Oh yes, that reminds me.
This may or may not have been posted here before... I just saw it 
mentioned in New Scientist magazine.

http://www.dynamism.com/rolleiflex/
Cheers,
- Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/

 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke



Re: Camera Lust!

2005-01-23 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:13:51 -0800, Shel Belinkoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I understood it to mean all ongoing auctions ... and, if there's to be a
 prohibition about Pentax gear and third-party lenses, then the
 prohibition should be extended to cameras that use Pentax lenses, filters
 that fit on lenses that can be used on Pentax cameras, straps, cases, caps,
 and so on, including ephemera.

Reductio ad absurdum.

Are you suggesting that since many Takumar screwmount lenses have a
49mm filter-ring that any filter of that size, or indeed, any lens by
any other manufacturer that has a 49mm ring can't be mentioned?

Likewise for any camera that has the same type of strap-connecting
mechanism as a Pentax - that can't be mentioned either?

Any lens that has a cap that could potentially fit on any Pentax lens
or lens that would fit a Pentax is also off-limits?

Let's take it further, shall we?  No computers, because a *istDs could
potentially download images onto it.  No cars, 'cause I could put my
LX in the trunk (boot, for you Brits).  No clothing, because one could
put an MX with pancake in the pockets (is that a Pentax in your
pocket, or are you just happy to see me?).

I mean, really, I don't care personally.  I don't eBay anymore. 
Haven't for a couple of years.  So, I don't care.

It seems that what the no ongoing Pentax auctions thing is somewhat
of a limit on free speech, so we have to have reasonable limits to it;
 it really ought not be absolute.  LImiting it to Pentax gear and
~major~ components that might attach to Pentax gear seems to work. 
OTOH, if we want to limit it as you suggest, then perhaps no ongoing
eBay auctions at all would be easiest.  It would certainly make
deciding what's proper and what's out of bounds easier.

As I said, it means nothing to me - just thinking of list harmony is all.

Please note, what may be perceived as sarcasm is really just my way of
lightening things up, and no personal malice is intended.  g.

cheers,
frank





-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: OT: Dog Stuff

2005-01-23 Thread Peter J. Alling
Wow, considering the possibilities, that's even gasp clean.
Cotty wrote:
On 22/1/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
 

Wimp.
Thursday night, I blew out the compound at the club to make room for 
a dog rest area, and blew a path to our outdoor storage. Snow 
upwards of 3 feet deep, and hard blown enough to walk on. After 
supper, I took my dog to class.
   

[snip]
 

after which I spent about 3 hours 
blowing the snow off our parking lot, which was a foot deep in fresh 
snow.
   

Don't you guys ever run out of breath with all this blowing?
Cheers,
 Cotty
___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_

 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke



Re: carrying cameras in London

2005-01-23 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - 
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You don't really need to worry about getting robbed at gunpoint in
London, but in Oxford I believe you should be concerned that someone
might shoot you with their Canon :-P
Tell me about it...:-)
Jostein


Re: PESO: Playing with Macro 2

2005-01-23 Thread brooksdj
Hi Marnie

I had a look at the three pictures on the site.

The Conch pic and Mom at 90 are great.Not to fussy on the middle one.

Sorry.

Mom at 90 is a fantastic shot. Perfect as a BW image.Those hands have a lot of 
stories in
them.

The shell is very nice.Lots of detail and looks quite sharp on my monitor.I 
think i'll
look into
thet Tamron 90 Macro.Seems to produce decent results from those who own it.

Great work again Marnie.

Dave Brooks


 Well, the wind died down and it 
FINALLY warmed up (enough) for me to grab 
 some art paper (for an infinity screen), my tripod, and go to the table on 
 the 
 back porch to try out my Macro lens (SP Tamron 90mm Macro 2.8). Although I've 
 had the lens about a year, I've only used it really for the Portrait class 
 (non-Macro). 

 http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/
 
 I cropped the shell a bit, could be cropped differently or more.
 
 Comments welcome.
 
 Marnie aka Doe  
 






Re: [pdml] The Canary - WAS: PAW: Lay-Z-Boy

2005-01-23 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:47:23 -0500, David Chang-Sang
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've never been in.. I've tried a number of times to photograph it.. and I
 finally got images that will make a decent triptych. All were cropped down
 to 5x5 and then run through the Holga Filter and Sepia in photoshop.  It
 only seemed like the right thing to do for the age, and state, of that
 restaurant.
 
 http://www.chang-sang.com/photo/lj/users/nexus/060105/crop038_holga.jpg
 http://www.chang-sang.com/photo/lj/users/nexus/060105/crop040_holga.jpg
 http://www.chang-sang.com/photo/lj/users/nexus/060105/crop041_holga.jpg
 
 In that order.

Nice!!

Hey, we should have a TOPDML there one day.  

And hope we get out with our cameras intact...  vbg

-frank


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Camera Lust!

2005-01-23 Thread Peter J. Alling
You gave enough information. Damn that's beautiful.  I only wish I could 
afford another camera purchase right now.
Also I expect that the price will end up being much higher before it ends.

Jens Bladt wrote:
PDML rules prevent me from posting a link for the auction, but...
Here's an AGFA Isolette CRF with a Solinar lens.
Beautiful and brilliant camera!
I'd really, really love to have this, but it's quite expensive :-(
It's a like new 6x6 camera with a coupled range finder and it will fit in
your pocket or camera bag, along with what else you carry for photographing.
All you need is a light meter (or a SLR)and film. You can have a 70
Megapixel camera in your pocket!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/3690842/
Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt

 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke



Re: Camera Lust!

2005-01-23 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Well, I was being a little flip, Frank.  Did I forget the smiley ... sure,
there's gotta be a limit, but when you start limiting things, at what point
does it stop.  How many hairs make up a moustache?

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Date: 1/23/2005 8:47:45 AM
 Subject: Re: Camera Lust!

 On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:13:51 -0800, Shel Belinkoff
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I understood it to mean all ongoing auctions ... and, if there's to be a
  prohibition about Pentax gear and third-party lenses, then the
  prohibition should be extended to cameras that use Pentax lenses,
filters
  that fit on lenses that can be used on Pentax cameras, straps, cases,
caps,
  and so on, including ephemera.

 Reductio ad absurdum.

 Are you suggesting that since many Takumar screwmount lenses have a
 49mm filter-ring that any filter of that size, or indeed, any lens by
 any other manufacturer that has a 49mm ring can't be mentioned?

 Likewise for any camera that has the same type of strap-connecting
 mechanism as a Pentax - that can't be mentioned either?

 Any lens that has a cap that could potentially fit on any Pentax lens
 or lens that would fit a Pentax is also off-limits?

 Let's take it further, shall we?  No computers, because a *istDs could
 potentially download images onto it.  No cars, 'cause I could put my
 LX in the trunk (boot, for you Brits).  No clothing, because one could
 put an MX with pancake in the pockets (is that a Pentax in your
 pocket, or are you just happy to see me?).

 I mean, really, I don't care personally.  I don't eBay anymore. 
 Haven't for a couple of years.  So, I don't care.

 It seems that what the no ongoing Pentax auctions thing is somewhat
 of a limit on free speech, so we have to have reasonable limits to it;
  it really ought not be absolute.  LImiting it to Pentax gear and
 ~major~ components that might attach to Pentax gear seems to work. 
 OTOH, if we want to limit it as you suggest, then perhaps no ongoing
 eBay auctions at all would be easiest.  It would certainly make
 deciding what's proper and what's out of bounds easier.

 As I said, it means nothing to me - just thinking of list harmony is all.

 Please note, what may be perceived as sarcasm is really just my way of
 lightening things up, and no personal malice is intended.  g.

 cheers,
 frank





 -- 
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson




Re: Camera Lust!

2005-01-23 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, frank theriault wrote:

 I could be wrong, but my understanding is that the guidelines (I
 hesitate to call them rules) suggest that it's inappropriate to post
 ongoing eBay auctions of Pentax gear, the operative words being
 ongoing and Pentax.  AFAIK, we are more than welcome to post
 closed auctions, or auctions of non-Pentaxia.

I really cannot see why anyone cannot hold 1, 2, 5 or even 10 days for
the auction (Pentax or not) to finish. It's not like their statement
will catch pneumonia or something while waiting for the end of the
auction.

Kostas



More Dog Stuff

2005-01-23 Thread William Robb
A small celebration in Regina.
I put a title on Leica this morning.
Her official name is now...
Karbon's Solom Vow; CD.
William Robb


Re: Camera Lust!

2005-01-23 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 performance. Focus on these early models is by scale and the lens is
 marked only in meters, so I'll have to get out my thinking cap for this
 one.

Yards are close to a meter. Or if you stop down a little bit and
divide by three your feet-estimate, you should be OK.

How big is the negative? For example, the 85mm that Shel mention is
equivalent to what on 35mm?

Kostas



Re: Camera Lust!

2005-01-23 Thread Steve Jolly
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
How big is the negative? For example, the 85mm that Shel mention is
equivalent to what on 35mm?
AOV should be similar to a 43mm lens on 35mm film - the fudge factor is ~2.
S


Re: OT: Let it Snow, Let it Snow, Let it Snow

2005-01-23 Thread Peter J. Alling
Still coming down here, and still blowing, last report to expect between 
3-6 more inches, (already looks like at least 10).  Very cold, the 
damned dog loves it and doesn't want to come back in, (and I have to 
walk him).  More later.

frank theriault wrote:
We had what the weather forecasters now call a snow event yesterday
here in Toronto.  I think the same storm also hit much of the MIdwest
and Northeast US, so Paul, Ken and any other Michiganders (haven't
seen Mark Cassino much lately, have we?) must have got hit, too.
They were calling for over 12 inches, but this morning they said we
only got around 7 - looking out the window, it sure looks like close
to 10 or 12.  Winds were high (40 km per hour - it wasn't a
blizzard, which needs 50 km/h winds) and lowish temps (-17 C, with
wind chill in the -30's) made for a fun day.
I mean, literally, a fun day.
I bought a Metro Pass, which allows me all day access to Toronto's
excellent transit system, and took the street car and subway all
around town, whilst luckless drivers slid their way about.  Of course,
a camera was mandatory in such conditions, and I got lots of cliche
people trying to walk along, hands holding their collars to their
face while the wind tugs at their coats, snow whipping by them shots.
Hopefully, some of them will turn out.  Most people walking by were
so busy trying to negotiate the wind and snow they didn't even notice
my camera.
Today's beautiful and sunny.  Should be lots more photo ops out there.  

Anyone else out there shooting in the snow this weekend?
cheers,
frank
 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke



Re: PP: Digital Grain

2005-01-23 Thread Juan Buhler
A month ago I played a bit with digital grain, and posted this:

http://www.jbuhler.com/blog/archives/0142.html

I think it kind of works. I need to print a full frame of this and see
it side by side with some real Tri X. One of these days.

j


On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:12:38 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 PP = post processing
 
 I was visiting the Adobe site recently looking through the actions people
 have uploaded (to share) for PS. Discovered a few that would add grain to 
 digital
 pictures.
 
 I wondered has anyone on the list tried that? Adding grain, that is. Not
 necessarily those specific actions at the Adobe site that supposedly add 
 grain.
 
 Just curious. Somehow I don't think it would work that well.
 
 Marnie aka Doe :-)
 
 


-- 
Juan Buhler
http://www.jbuhler.com
blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog



UK import taxes

2005-01-23 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

Hello,

I am semi-seriously considering to order an MZ-S from the States. Just
so as to write it off, can someone give me the rundown of the kind and
level of taxation/import duties I will be liable to? A reference would
be good enough indeed.

Thanks in advance,

Kostas



Re: PESO: Mom at 90

2005-01-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sat Mom down today for a little impromptu modeling session. Natural light,
 chair by big window, white board for reflector, tripod, sheet draped over her,
 and her wearing a white blouse. She is not the most cooperative model as she
 tends to talk. A lot. :-)

 I took about 40. Going to be playing with the tonality, etc. for about a week
 (yes, I am converting them to BW). Then I'll throw up 6-8 and ask people
 which they like. Also ask for suggestions on how to improve what I am 
 attempting
 to do. Because I plan to do this again.

 Some have props. This one doesn't. I liked it right off when I quickly viewed
 them all. Others may not. Tamron SP 90mm (Macro), 200 ISO, 1/100, 2.8.

 Mom at 90
 http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/Mom1.htm

 Comments welcome.

 Marnie aka Doe :-)

With some trepedation, I had a look, because it was you :)
Lovely, Marnie!

(you KNOW why i had trepedation;) )

annsan





Re: UK import taxes

2005-01-23 Thread Steve Jolly
VAT @ 17.5%
Import duty, which is ~8% for photographic equipment IIRC
Shipper's handling charge - depends on the shipper.  UPS are 
particularly bad.

All the above from memory, so may be inaccurate :-)
S
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
Hello,
I am semi-seriously considering to order an MZ-S from the States. Just
so as to write it off, can someone give me the rundown of the kind and
level of taxation/import duties I will be liable to? A reference would
be good enough indeed.
Thanks in advance,
Kostas



Re: Digital anguish

2005-01-23 Thread Joseph Tainter
Peter, I have two PZ-1p bodies that have not been used in 16 months.
But then again I wonder if the *ist D is that practical when you are
travelling (which is when I'm doing most of my photographing).
During the past year I have taken my D to Montreal, the Monterey 
Peninsula and San Francisco, and Hungary. In Hungary I backed up the 
files (9 GB) to a Flashtrax. I would have to think twice about taking my 
D to Mali (much dust), but it is very practical everywhere else. Being 
able to switch ISO means that I no longer carry two bodies.

BTW What would you recommend as a good Mac-compatible scanner?
I picked up a used Nikon LS-2000 on eBay about three years ago. The 
price of a used one should be even lower now.

Joe


Re: Camera Lust!

2005-01-23 Thread Graywolf
My personal opinion is that it should apply to any photographic gear. There are 
600 people on this list with interests in things photographic. I myself have 
been looking at folders (However I am broke this month anyway).

It really is not a matter of rules, but of common courtesy. How would you feel 
if you were thinking of bidding for that item and someone mentioned it here; 
then suddenly it has 50 bids instead of 2. You (generalized you, not Frank in 
particular) would probably be pretty angry.

Lets just be considerate of others. It is very easy to think that something is 
neat and you are not going to buy it, so you want to share it. But maybe one or 
more of your friends on this list (and whether you realize it or not many of the 
people here are your friends) is wanting it. Let's try not to mess up their deal.

And BTW, it is not just the link, it is the item if you mention it someone who 
was too lazy to scan the auction can just type it into the seach engine and 
presto there it is.

So, it is just a matter of THINK! Think how you would feel if you wanted that 
item and someone else posted it to the list.

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---
frank theriault wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:13:51 -0800, Shel Belinkoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I understood it to mean all ongoing auctions ... and, if there's to be a
prohibition about Pentax gear and third-party lenses, then the
prohibition should be extended to cameras that use Pentax lenses, filters
that fit on lenses that can be used on Pentax cameras, straps, cases, caps,
and so on, including ephemera.

Reductio ad absurdum.
Are you suggesting that since many Takumar screwmount lenses have a
49mm filter-ring that any filter of that size, or indeed, any lens by
any other manufacturer that has a 49mm ring can't be mentioned?
Likewise for any camera that has the same type of strap-connecting
mechanism as a Pentax - that can't be mentioned either?
Any lens that has a cap that could potentially fit on any Pentax lens
or lens that would fit a Pentax is also off-limits?
Let's take it further, shall we?  No computers, because a *istDs could
potentially download images onto it.  No cars, 'cause I could put my
LX in the trunk (boot, for you Brits).  No clothing, because one could
put an MX with pancake in the pockets (is that a Pentax in your
pocket, or are you just happy to see me?).
I mean, really, I don't care personally.  I don't eBay anymore. 
Haven't for a couple of years.  So, I don't care.

It seems that what the no ongoing Pentax auctions thing is somewhat
of a limit on free speech, so we have to have reasonable limits to it;
 it really ought not be absolute.  LImiting it to Pentax gear and
~major~ components that might attach to Pentax gear seems to work. 
OTOH, if we want to limit it as you suggest, then perhaps no ongoing
eBay auctions at all would be easiest.  It would certainly make
deciding what's proper and what's out of bounds easier.

As I said, it means nothing to me - just thinking of list harmony is all.
Please note, what may be perceived as sarcasm is really just my way of
lightening things up, and no personal malice is intended.  g.
cheers,
frank



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Re: MZ-S: what is a good price ?

2005-01-23 Thread Bob Sullivan
Thibouille,

My history with Pentax is like your's including extensive shooting
with the ME, Super-A with and without MotorA, and the Z1...at least
until I joined this list and became enabled. ;-)  Since then, my most
used camera is the LX followed by the Z1p.

I recently took a chance on an ebay auction paying $580 for a MZ-S. 
I've only put a few rolls thru the camera but I do like it.  It is
more compact than the Z1, closer in size and weight to the LX.  It
also has fast autofocus features.  I've been happy with it and the
professional feel it gives.

My urge to buy it came from thinking about it as the LAST Pentax film
camera.  I like film and have been resisting the urge to buy digital. 
(More of a psychological problem as I know those jaggies are hidden in
the pictures somewhere even if I can't see them!)  I want to have this
camera for some time to come and was afraid of not being able to find
one at a later date.

All in all, I am very satisfied with the purchase.

Regards,  Bob S.


On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:31:08 +0100, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well I already own quite a few bodies (at least for an amateur, I
 really do not have much experience) and I really dunno if I should
 spend money on an MZ-S.
 
 I use (some are own by my brother but as he do not use them anyway...)
 
 P30t
 Z1 (not -p)
 Super-A + MotorA
 KX
 
 Is a fifth one really worth it? Of course it would give me nearly up
 to date AF, advanced flash functions and such. I think it depends on
 price. After all, is the price is surprisingly good and I do not
 really need it, I'm sure some PDMLers would be interested :)
 
 An IST-Ds is 1000 Euros without lens here. And I'm sure in a year I'll
 want to upgrade to the  latest digital Pentax. The MZ-S is the best
 Pentax film body, period.
 
 Mmm really, I dunno.
 
 --
 Thibouille
 




Re: Strange bedfellows

2005-01-23 Thread Joseph Tainter
it seems that the imaging division of Pentax is going to make a profit 
for a change this quarter, mostly because of DSLR sales. i believe that 
the *istDs is mostly responsible, but it is hard to tell from the 
reports i have seen. just to even things out, the endoscope business 
looks like it is in trouble.

The D and DS have created a run on Pentax primes. Suddenly everyone 
wants them. Check dpreview to see the endless questions. These cameras 
have created a resurgence of interest in image quality. The FA 77 has 
been particularly in demand, as have the 50, 35, 28, and 24. I'm sure 
everyone has noticed that Pentax autofocus primes have virtually 
disappeared from KEH. Pentax has to be making money for a change.

Of course, just as Pentax primes are in demand, they are becoming 
unavailable. By the time Pentax brings out a full line of D FA lenses 
the demand will probably have dropped.

Joe


Re: UK import taxes

2005-01-23 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, Steve Jolly wrote:

 VAT @ 17.5%
 Import duty, which is ~8% for photographic equipment IIRC
 Shipper's handling charge - depends on the shipper.  UPS are
 particularly bad.

Thanks. Does VAT apply to the import duty as well?

Kostas



Re: Did someone here get the bargain?

2005-01-23 Thread Graywolf
That's not such a bargain, I bought one from a list member who listed it right 
here for less than that.

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---
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the relationship the greater the impact.
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Strange bedfellows

2005-01-23 Thread Joseph Tainter
Seeing the 1D next to the Pentax did set  my thought processes churning 
-I was impressed.

Fighting enablement.
Come in from the dark side, Cotty. We'll take you back.
Joe


Re: UK import taxes

2005-01-23 Thread Bob W
Hi,

 I am semi-seriously considering to order an MZ-S from the States. Just
 so as to write it off, can someone give me the rundown of the kind and
 level of taxation/import duties I will be liable to? A reference would
 be good enough indeed.

www.hmce.gov.uk

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Re: Did someone here get the bargain?

2005-01-23 Thread Graywolf
I don't know where those numbers come from, but it is definately a 
professionally acceptable lens. In fact it is one of my favorites. When I can 
only carry two lenses, they are it (M100/2.8) and the M35mm/2.0.

Professionally acceptable is the only lens rating that makes much sense to me. 
What that means is no client is going to be unsatisfied by the images made with 
it. Who cares about lpmm and all that but the pretentious who do not understand 
what they mean anyway. Lpmm may sell magazines but they don't sell lenses, at 
least not to me.

graywolf
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Keith Whaley wrote:

Paul Stenquist wrote:
It's not exactly a steal. I sold the same lens recently. I think it  
brought about $130. While I like the M 100/2.8, it's probably the 
least  desirable of the Pentax primes in the 100 to 120 range.
Paul

I tend to agree...
Somewhere I read that the critical aperture is f/16.0!
And at that, it only resolves 51-57  l/mm.
Hardly a world beater!
keith whaley
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Re: Instant Chimping - Do You Do It?

2005-01-23 Thread Graywolf
LOL!
Hail Cesar!
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Cesar wrote:
Cotty wrote:
On 11/1/05, Cesar, discombobulated, unleashed:
 

I am definitely showing up in England this year.  I hope to be 
laden with film cameras.
 
  
Whoa! I'll inform Buckingham Palace right away!


 

Hmmm, just how am I supposed to take that ? :-D
You will have to translate for me though,
  

Well, it's naturally a state occasion so they'll want to get the gee-
gee's out for starters, and then there's all that trooping of the guard
and so on. Better book a banquet hall for what? 300 ?
Hey it's a big deal when Cesar's in town!

Cheers,
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I just hope you don't cheer when I leave ;-)
César
Panama City, Florida


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Re: More Dog Stuff

2005-01-23 Thread Graywolf
Wow! A Companion Dog! How do you leica that. (grin)
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A small celebration in Regina.
I put a title on Leica this morning.
Her official name is now...
Karbon's Solom Vow; CD.
William Robb


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Re: UK import taxes

2005-01-23 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, Bob W wrote:

 www.hmce.gov.uk

Interesting! Digital still cameras do not attract import duty (no
escape from VAT).

Thanks for the link.

Kostas



Re: MZ-S: what is a good price ?

2005-01-23 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, Bob Sullivan wrote:

 My urge to buy it came from thinking about it as the LAST Pentax film
 camera.

It is not really (*ist is).

Kostas



There's a 5-6 foot drift in my driveway

2005-01-23 Thread Jim Hemenway
9F and 25 with 35mph gusts here in Winchester, MA.  The storm is 
tapering off here but still going strong on Cape Cod and in the Plymouth 
area.

I'm not planning to shovel or clear anything until tomorrow, so I 
haven't been out to shoot any photos yet today... the wind is the killer 
for me.

But the following were shot with a Spotmatic 50mm lens in 1978 after our 
big blizzard.  The sight today isn't much different except near the 
shore where the flooding was very serious back then.

http://www.hemenway.com/after-the-blizzard/
Jim


Re: *istDS - first thoughts

2005-01-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/1/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

PS:  that ~is~ where you live, right?

Close enough mate ;-)




Cheers,
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Re: OT: Let it Snow, Let it Snow, Let it Snow

2005-01-23 Thread Graywolf
Glad you got home alright Bob.
Down here in Boone where they think they have bad winters we got freezing 
drizzle Friday, 2 inchs yesterday and the sun is out today but it was 5F at 6am 
and up to nearly 10 now.

--Not real bad by the standards of a guy that grew up in Detroit, and has lived 
in places like Denver, and Topeka Kansas (by the time that suff blows down there 
from Wheatfield Willy's back yard it has picked up some real cold (-40 wasn't 
unusual when I was stationed there).--

Now this was such bad weather that a guy across the parking lot wouldn't even 
come out to shut off his car alarm which has been going off about every half 
hour or so since 6pm yesterday. The horn is getting pretty soft by now. I just 
hope he asks me for a jump when he has to go to work tomorrow (hee, hee).

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Re: MZ-S: what is a good price ?

2005-01-23 Thread mike wilson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoting Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

want to upgrade to the  latest digital Pentax. The MZ-S is the best
Pentax film body, period.

You think so? Of 35mm film bodies, I would have thought the PZ-1p a contender 
for best, and the PZ-1 very, very close to it.
I mention this in case it helps you feel happier about what you have in hand, 
but it is my honest opinion.
I would argue that there is not an overall best body.  You would 
normally say that there are a few that rank higher than others but, in 
the case of Pentax, I think it is more that there are a few that rank 
lower than the rest.

Each body that I own has specific qualities that I sought at the time 
and still find useful and/or pleasurable.  None of them have all the 
qualities, so I cannot place one as overall best.  I suppose one could, 
if one had a specific style or photographic requirement.  Being more of 
a jounrneyman, I prefer a few options

mike


Re: Strange bedfellows

2005-01-23 Thread Graywolf
The Rolleiflex MiniDigi is a digital camera unlike any other--it's a vintage 
replica of the famous, coveted Rolleiflex 2.8F of 1929.

If their camera is a good as their dating (they are only off by 50 years or so), 
I wouldn't take one if they paid me.

graywolf
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David Mann wrote:
On Jan 23, 2005, at 11:52 AM, Jens Bladt wrote:
On the shelf, the *ist Ds don't even look like a DSLR, in kind of 
blends in
with all the PS digies.

Oh yes, that reminds me.
This may or may not have been posted here before... I just saw it 
mentioned in New Scientist magazine.

http://www.dynamism.com/rolleiflex/
Cheers,
- Dave
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Re: Did someone here get the bargain?

2005-01-23 Thread Bob Sullivan
The 100/2.8M lens isn't the 85/1.8K but isn't the 85/2M either.  It's
a sharp enough lens that you won't notice and it's joyfully small too!
 Regards,  Bob S.


On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:55:20 -0500, Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't know where those numbers come from, but it is definately a
 professionally acceptable lens. In fact it is one of my favorites. When I 
 can
 only carry two lenses, they are it (M100/2.8) and the M35mm/2.0.
 
 Professionally acceptable is the only lens rating that makes much sense to 
 me.
 What that means is no client is going to be unsatisfied by the images made 
 with
 it. Who cares about lpmm and all that but the pretentious who do not 
 understand
 what they mean anyway. Lpmm may sell magazines but they don't sell lenses, 
 at
 least not to me.
 
 graywolf
 http://www.graywolfphoto.com
 Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
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 Keith Whaley wrote:
 
 
  Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
  It's not exactly a steal. I sold the same lens recently. I think it
  brought about $130. While I like the M 100/2.8, it's probably the
  least  desirable of the Pentax primes in the 100 to 120 range.
  Paul
 
 
  I tend to agree...
  Somewhere I read that the critical aperture is f/16.0!
  And at that, it only resolves 51-57  l/mm.
  Hardly a world beater!
 
  keith whaley
 
  On Jan 23, 2005, at 8:02 AM, Collin R Brendemuehl wrote:
 
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British Columbia

2005-01-23 Thread Bill Owens
The INHD2 channel is currently showing Aerial British Columbia.  It is 
filmed from a helicopter with very little narration, but some fine music. 
I'm envious of those of you who live in that area, it looks to be absolutely 
beautiful, and full of photo ops.

Bill 




Re: Did someone here get the bargain?

2005-01-23 Thread pnstenquist
I agree. I was never dissatisfied with any of the pics I shot with the M 
100/2.8. In fact, the results made me doubt some of the testing numbers. I sold 
it because I have the K 85/1.8, the Vivitar Series 1 90/2.5 and the SMC Pentax 
135/2.5. I didn't seem to need another lens in between, and the Vivitar was 
obviously sharper and had macro capability. (Of course it weighs more than 
twice as much.) And I was trying to raise the funds for my *istD. If I could 
have kept it and still bought my D, I would have. However, it's not an 
expensive lens, which is a good thing.
Paul


 The 100/2.8M lens isn't the 85/1.8K but isn't the 85/2M either.  It's
 a sharp enough lens that you won't notice and it's joyfully small too!
  Regards,  Bob S.
 
 
 On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:55:20 -0500, Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I don't know where those numbers come from, but it is definately a
  professionally acceptable lens. In fact it is one of my favorites. When I 
 can
  only carry two lenses, they are it (M100/2.8) and the M35mm/2.0.
  
  Professionally acceptable is the only lens rating that makes much sense 
  to 
 me.
  What that means is no client is going to be unsatisfied by the images made 
 with
  it. Who cares about lpmm and all that but the pretentious who do not 
 understand
  what they mean anyway. Lpmm may sell magazines but they don't sell 
  lenses, 
 at
  least not to me.
  
  graywolf
  http://www.graywolfphoto.com
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  Keith Whaley wrote:
  
  
   Paul Stenquist wrote:
  
   It's not exactly a steal. I sold the same lens recently. I think it
   brought about $130. While I like the M 100/2.8, it's probably the
   least  desirable of the Pentax primes in the 100 to 120 range.
   Paul
  
  
   I tend to agree...
   Somewhere I read that the critical aperture is f/16.0!
   And at that, it only resolves 51-57  l/mm.
   Hardly a world beater!
  
   keith whaley
  
   On Jan 23, 2005, at 8:02 AM, Collin R Brendemuehl wrote:
  
   
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