Re: PESO - Waning Light
In a message dated 2/4/2005 11:08:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_1083.htm -- Best regards, Bruce = Wow! Nice one, Bruce. It's really hard getting the sun in that position (since once there it sinks fast). Nice color. Marnie aka Doe :-)
Re: OLD Film needs developing
From: Jim and Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 5:22 PM Subject: OLD Film needs developing Does anyone know where I can get some really old exposed film developed to see if any pictures survived? I found a large number of rolls from years ago when my kids were small and would like to see if I can salvage anything. Didn't have the money then to get them developed. Probably still don't!! LOL!! Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Jim Hi Jim, It would help if you'd tell us exactly what kind of film types we're talking about and roughly when years ago was. (Like 5, 10, 20, 30, or 50 years ago...) (If they are a bit old but still use developing processes in use today, there will be many places you can get them processed. If not you may have to look further.) Btw. I'm no expert on this, why someone else will have to step in to give you better advice. Good luck! Lasse
Re: PESO -- Portraits
In a message dated 2/4/2005 11:33:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Canon Girl Revisited... (Well I struck up a conversation and got a very tight head shot) http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PESO_--_canongirlrevisited.html Technical Information: Pentax *ist-D ISO 800 Shutter speed 1/10sec Vivitar Series 1 35-85mm f2.8 varifocal @85mm f2.8. I was getting out of my car on the way to the post office and this kid asked if he could take my picture. I said sure if I could take one of him. Turned out he was a student at the local community college taking a combined art and photography course. So without further ado here 's Sony Boy: http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PESO_--_sonyboy.html Technical Information: Pentax *ist-D iso 200 Shutter Speed 1/45sec. smc Pentax-F 70-210mm f4.0~5.6 @70mm f5.6 Finally here's a guy with a brand new haircut, and an attitude... http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PESO_--_haircutwithattitude.html Technical Information: Pentax *ist-D iso 800 Shutter Speed 1/45sec. smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0 @35mm f4.0 === Canon Girl Revisited doesn't do much for me. I think because of the shallow DOF -- a lot isn't in focus and it makes it too distracting. (Of course, it might be because of the constant Canon shooter bashing, I don't know. I can't claim to be impartial.) Sony Boy is fun (boy, that's a small PS!). And I really like Haircut with an Attitude. The best of the lot, IMHO. Keep on portraiting... I think you are getting there. (Hope that doesn't sound condescending -- I have nothing to condescend about. :-)) IMHO, also, students are good subjects for shots. I keep wanting to get a group shot of all the kids at the local junior college on their cell phones. I should go out someday and just plunk myself down in the student quad and see if I can get some. (See if they start ignoring the camera.) Never seen so many cell phones per square foot in my life. Marnie aka Doe :-)
Re: OLD Film needs developing
If it's 35mm film, you can take it to any decent lab. If it's ssomething odd like 127 or 126, you'll have to find a lab that specializes in processing old film types. I would search the web. If it's black and white film, I'd ask the lab to push it one stop (overdevelop it). If it's color, I'd proabably take my chances with normal processing. I tried developing a fifty year old roll of verichrome pan 120 that was probably exposed. It turned out to be completely black, but for all I know the camera might have been opened at some time. Good luck. Paul Does anyone know where I can get some really old exposed film developed to see if any pictures survived? I found a large number of rolls from years ago when my kids were small and would like to see if I can salvage anything. Didn't have the money then to get them developed. Probably still don't!! LOL!! Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Jim
AW: PESO - Waning Light
Congratulation! I thought you'd worked a lot on this picture, but as you wrote you didn't. Looks somehow unreal. Too beautiful to be real... Michael -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Mark Cassino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Samstag, 5. Februar 2005 16:47 An: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Betreff: Re: PESO - Waning Light Nice shot - the subtle colors in the sunset are excellent. I also really liked the fountain shot you had elsewhere in your portfolio. The ATX 400 f5.6 must of been a good find - I have one but it was hard to locate and that was within a few months of their being discontinued. I've been quite happy with the results gotten with it and the *ist-D - the 'crop factor' makes for a nice, portable, 600mm equivalent. - MCC - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 2:07 AM Subject: PESO - Waning Light It's been a while since I last posted one. I've been quite busy with work - not too busy to take some pictures, but haven't had time to get any posted. Today as the sun was setting, I stepped outside my home office and saw this sight. Went right back in and got the camera. Taken with *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6 AF (newly acquired), set on a stone wall for support. The image was converted in C1 and about 10% color saturation added - no other changes other than sizing/sharpening for the web. http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_1083.htm -- Best regards, Bruce
Re: PESO - Swim Meet
In a message dated 2/4/2005 6:49:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I like to shoot landscapes, bugs, and birds - but hey, the occasional bi-pedal amphibious hominid is also fair game! http://www.markcassino.com/temp/IMGP7042.jpg Shot with the *ist-D and Sigma 70-200. It's not perfect - the focal plane is a little in front of his nose - but I like how it captures the drive and intensity. - MCC = Nice departure for you, Mark. Good action capture. Like the water droplets and the expression. Marnie aka Doe
Re: OT: safe place from which to download spyware cleaner
Major Geeks is a good place to start for doing research and for links to several popular spyware programs. http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html I have Ad-Aware SE (think that has been mentioned) and Spybot installed on my machine. Pretty sure there is a link for Spybot at Major Geeks. HTH, Marnie aka Doe
Re: First PESO
In a message dated 2/4/2005 6:01:31 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/3342/display/2543597 Comments welcome, of course. Thanks to whichever list member made me aware of fotocommunity. Joe I agree with Bruce, it seems soft, but not offensively so. Nice combo of textures and color. In fact, it makes me want to see more. Marnie aka Doe (I should get me to a mission.)
Re: PESO: Spit to Manly walk
In a message dated 2/4/2005 1:32:03 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmm...didn't realize my ISP server was case sensitive. Anyway, that link again: http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~derbyc/Peso/peso.htm D = Interesting shot (re middle one -- Zenitar) -- thanks for sharing. Is the lower one shot with the 77 limited too? Marnie aka Doe
Re: My First GESO: Fun with a Fisheye-Takumar 18mm f11
In a message dated 2/5/2005 12:28:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.newpixel.net/special/fishy/fishy.html Conclusion: this is a fun lens, due to its compactness (it's essentially a pancake lens), but not particularly good for digital photography. With good ol' Tri-X, however, it produced some really cool artistic effects. I'm going to have to shoot a couple more rolls and see what I can get from it. John Celio = Like the one of Bonanza Street Books, nice reflection of stores in window. Distortion works well in that shot. You, know I was just in Reed's yesterday. Wonder if you were there? John, one tinsy winsy little suggestion -- when you put up more than one shot it's nice if each one, in non-thumbnail view, has little arrows or something so you can go back and forward between shots. It's pain to have to keep going back to the index page to click on thumbnails to see them all. So I admit, I stopped after about three. Just trying to be helpful. Later, Marnie aka Doe
Re: To Ann
In a message dated 2/4/2005 7:38:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My pleasure. I don't seem to have any trouble with missing messages - just huge numbers of duplicates for some reason m = I've been getting a few duplicates lately too -- in the last 2-3 days. Not sure I am missing any messages any more, in fact. I'd much prefer duplicates to missing, so not complaining -- at all. Marnie aka Doe :-)
French on-line dealers
Has anyone any experience of ordering stuff on-line from France. My impression is that they do not bother answering mail in English. Any dealer you could recommend? Peter
RE: French on-line dealers
Stuff encompasses a very large group of things. What kind of stuff? Shel From: Peter Smekal Has anyone any experience of ordering stuff on-line from France. My impression is that they do not bother answering mail in English. Any dealer you could recommend? Peter
Re: First PESO
I like this picture, too. Subtle colouring, nice framing, and it leaves you wondering about the rest of the building. John On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 11:29:38 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/4/2005 6:01:31 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/3342/display/2543597 Comments welcome, of course. Thanks to whichever list member made me aware of fotocommunity. Joe I agree with Bruce, it seems soft, but not offensively so. Nice combo of textures and color. In fact, it makes me want to see more. Marnie aka Doe (I should get me to a mission.) -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: Film Hardeners
I don't know if this is the same film as Forte - I got it from JandCphoto.com, and don't think that they have ever disclosed who the original manufacturer is. The response to my email from the people at the Classicpan.de site was that the company was insolvent and hoped to start production again. I only used the 120 film, and it had no writing or imprint along the edge - I got the best results exposing it at ISO 100. I often used a yellow/green X1 filter with it when shooting foliage, and found that it needed an extra bump in the exposure - a 3 stop increase as opposed to a 2 stop increase - with this filter. It also had rather poor reciprocity features, and I found that I had to start adjusting the exposure for times of 2 seconds or longer. Nonetheless, I got really outstanding results developing this in HC110 or Rodinal. My standard became HC 110, Dil H, 17 minutes with very gentle agitation every 3 minutes for the first 12, then agitation every 2 minutes, and once in the last minute. When it all came together the level of detail and tonal range was just fabulous. I've experimented a bit with Tri-X and a lot with APX-100. I can get close to the same results with APX 100, but never quite the same tonal range and shadow detail. I suspect that the very short developing times for the new Tri-X and HC110 will keep me from ever getting the same from it - at least with HC110. In terms of the hardener - this film tended to curl, with hardener or not. It was easy to scratch the emulsion when hanging it or pulling it out of the spool, so I went with a hardening fixer. Since it was all was shooting for a while, I just mixed up the fixer with the hardener and left it at that. Cheers - MCC - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Original Message - From: Frantisek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mark Cassino pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 9:22 AM Subject: Re: Film Hardeners Saturday, February 5, 2005, 4:35:31 AM, Mark wrote: MC Last year I really fell in love with Classic Pan 200, and shot a ton of it. MC It hasn't been available for several months. In response to a recent email MC to classicpan.de, I've learned that the company that makes it is insolvent, MC hopes to be back,maybe will be in the spring. Is it the one made by Forte in Hungary? We bought some bulk from Forte two years ago (we=group of photographers doing digital commercially but interested in old films for personal pleasure). What we wanted was the 400 version but they had a badly labeled batch of 200 they sent us in error. Of course upon densitometry and other tests we found out, and it really was a mistake on their part, as they offered an instant remedy, exchanging it for the 400 and some bonus. So far so good. It was an interesting film, even the 200 version. But if they have problems, that's sad. Anybody in Hungary could check it out, please? Good light! fra
Re: PESO - Waning Light
I also particularly enjoyed the mountain/sky shots, and the scarecrow. John On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 10:47:17 -0500, Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice shot - the subtle colors in the sunset are excellent. I also really liked the fountain shot you had elsewhere in your portfolio. The ATX 400 f5.6 must of been a good find - I have one but it was hard to locate and that was within a few months of their being discontinued. I've been quite happy with the results gotten with it and the *ist-D - the 'crop factor' makes for a nice, portable, 600mm equivalent. - MCC - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 2:07 AM Subject: PESO - Waning Light It's been a while since I last posted one. I've been quite busy with work - not too busy to take some pictures, but haven't had time to get any posted. Today as the sun was setting, I stepped outside my home office and saw this sight. Went right back in and got the camera. Taken with *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6 AF (newly acquired), set on a stone wall for support. The image was converted in C1 and about 10% color saturation added - no other changes other than sizing/sharpening for the web. http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_1083.htm -- Best regards, Bruce -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: [Looking for]
On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 03:44:26PM +0100, Thibouille wrote.. * SuperA Grip: Sometimes I'd like to use it without the MotorA and without the grip, it is a pain. Anybody having a spare one? * MX MotorDrive: I have no idea about the price but I understand they are quite rare and expensive. I still need an idea of the price. MX winders are everywhere however. There is one on eBay Germany at the moment. I think they ask EUR 245. Too expensive for my taste. Heh! But I was lucky last week: I picked up a very nice MX with 1.7/50 in excellent condition for (no typo...) EUR 12.50 (that is roughly US$ 15) -- Wilko
Re: Phisheye Phun
In a message dated 2/4/2005 11:07:57 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder.tcl?folder_id=469837 I love fisheyes; just wait until I learn to use it! vbg cheers, frank == Really like the first one, frank. Second one is nice too. That is where I think the fisheye really soars, nature shots, curvature of the earth, etc. -- especially with water. The bike shot is rather poignant -- very nice. Emotive -- cold abandonment. Dead center bothers me a bit, but not too much because of the street shot behind. Nice framing. Strange to see color from you, though. :-) Marnie aka Doe I do have to break out my Zenitar one of these days. Sigh. So much to shoot and so little time.
Re: OLD Film needs developing
Paul wrote: If it's 35mm film, you can take it to any decent lab. If it's something odd like 127 or 126, you'll have to find a lab that specializes in processing old film types. I would search the web. If it's black and white film, I'd ask the lab to push it one stop (overdevelop it). If it's color, I'd probably take my chances with normal processing. I tried developing a fifty year old roll of verichrome pan 120 that was probably exposed. It turned out to be completely black, but for all I know the camera might have been opened at some time. Good luck. Paul Actually if it's color print film you need to determine if it's C-22 or C-41 process. If it's c-41 you can try bringing it to any lab. If it's slide film (Ektachrome) you need to determine if it is E-2, E-3, E-4, or E-6. E-6 is the current process. Kodachrome current process is K-14. If it's a current film you can bring it to a lab that does that type of processing. If it's an older film you can try Rocky Mountain film labs in Colorado. BW should be developable by any good BW lab. MY best guess is that any of the older color process films will have lost any latent image by now. The BW is definitely worth a try. Butch
(n)ever-ready cases--pro and con?
Anyone know anything regarding the pluses and minuses of storing and using cameras in ever-ready cases? Seems like it would help keep paint chips and scuffing away, but I've also read that leather cases may attract camera fungus. Thoughts? --Mark
Discontinuement of Film SLR bodies
I was down at the local camera shop the other day and the owner told me that Pentax was planning on discontinuing all of their film based SLR's. She said the information came not from her sales rep but from another shop owner who is apparently more plugged in to what's going on. Anyone else heard about this? I'm new to the list, but I did check the archives and couldn't find anything.
price record?
Anyone else see this auction (now closed)? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=3871063207 $3049 for a suite of 3 lenses: A*135mmF1.8, SMCP15mmF3.5, FA* 24mmF2. 15mmF3.5 lenses are available at several websites for around $800, and a 24mmF2 might go for $300 or so, so I put the A*135mmF1.8 value in this package at $1900. Whew! The bidding looks a little odd, too. --Mark
Re: First PESO
Hi Joe ... didn't see this post except as when included as a reply. The photo is a little too soft to make a strong impact. While the wall of the building isn't too bad, the foliage growing up (or cascading down) could really stand to be sharper. Eliminating, perhaps, the white flower in the lower left would aid in strengthening the composition. However, it's a nice, pleasant shot that offers a good perspective on what could have been a very cliché shot. Shel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/3342/display/2543597 Comments welcome, of course.
Re: PESO - Waning Light
Hi, http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_1083.htm Wow! Nice one, Bruce. It's really hard getting the sun in that position (since once there it sinks fast). that's because gravity gets stronger the closer the sun gets to the horizon, so it starts accelerating. -- Cheers, Bob
Re: (n)ever-ready cases--pro and con?
They're a burden. On a film camera you have to remove it to change film. I've never seen one on a digital SLR, but you would have to remove it to get at any of the functions on the back or to remove the CF card. Never ready cases are for people who leave one roll of film in the camera for six months and take four shots at every family event. Paul On Feb 5, 2005, at 12:36 PM, Mark Erickson wrote: Anyone know anything regarding the pluses and minuses of storing and using cameras in ever-ready cases? Seems like it would help keep paint chips and scuffing away, but I've also read that leather cases may attract camera fungus. Thoughts? --Mark
Old Film type
When I said old I really meant OLD! I can't get it process with the new equipment. I have tried. It's Verichrome Pan 127 Film Thanks for all the help. Jim
RE: French on-line dealers
Well, I thought about Mousse de Saumon et Câpres, Boeuf Bourguignon, a bottle of Corton des Clos Faiveley 2002, Crêpes aux Poires, and some Calvados du Pays d'Auge 8 ans d'âge ... no just kidding, actually a Pentax *istDs 2004. Peter
Re: RE: French on-line dealers
As this is a photographic list, a reasonable assumption would be photographic equipment. Of course, the words dealer and stuff might refer to something very different, though I doubt it. John On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 09:11:51 -0800, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stuff encompasses a very large group of things. What kind of stuff? Shel From: Peter Smekal Has anyone any experience of ordering stuff on-line from France. My impression is that they do not bother answering mail in English. Any dealer you could recommend? Peter -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Prices of Pentax Lenses
I have noticed a sudden increase in pentax prices lately. It can't all be because of the istDs A few months after the release of the D there began to be a run on Pentax primes. It still continues, and I suspect that DS owners will soon try to join in after they decide which zoom to buy. Note that Pentax autofocus primes have virtually disappeared from KEH. Here's what I think has happened: 1. People who bought the D care about image quality and can afford Pentax primes. They began to buy FA primes. 2. Pentax, meanwhile, had stopped production of all, or at least most, FA lenses (but maybe not FAJ lenses). 3. Existing stocks began to run out. Look at Pentax USA's web site and see how few primes are now listed. 4. Pentax got caught by surprise. It was in the middle of shifting lens production to Vietnam and was planning the new DA and D FA lines. Pentax did not anticipate that suddenly the old FA primes would be in strong demand. Existing stocks have sold out, or nearly so, and they are no longer being produced. 5. Nguyen is ill again this winter. 6. Ebay prices began to shoot up. Joe
Re: RE: French on-line dealers
Sure, but there's lots of different kinds of photo stuff. Cameras (digital and film, small format, medium format, large format), lenses, cases, tripods, studio gear, flash equipment, memory cards, editing gear, software ... some dealers may specialize in one area or another, or have better deals or service for some items. One might assume that since this is a Pentax list the question would refer to Pentax gear, but we know that's not the case since people here use many different brands of gear. Let's try not to assume too much ;-)) Shel From: John Forbesnch on-line dealers As this is a photographic list, a reasonable assumption would be photographic equipment. Of course, the words dealer and stuff might refer to something very different, though I doubt it. John On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 09:11:51 -0800, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stuff encompasses a very large group of things. What kind of stuff? Shel
Re: RE: French on-line dealers
Thank you John, for your Gallic response, in between bottles of Beaujolais. May I congratulate you on your choice of interpreter. Peter As this is a photographic list, a reasonable assumption would be photographic equipment. Of course, the words dealer and stuff might refer to something very different, though I doubt it. John On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 09:11:51 -0800, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stuff encompasses a very large group of things. What kind of stuff? Shel From: Peter Smekal Has anyone any experience of ordering stuff on-line from France. My impression is that they do not bother answering mail in English. Any dealer you could recommend? Peter -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: PESO - Waning Light
In a message dated 2/5/2005 9:50:39 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_1083.htm Wow! Nice one, Bruce. It's really hard getting the sun in that position (since once there it sinks fast). that's because gravity gets stronger the closer the sun gets to the horizon, so it starts accelerating. -- Cheers, Bob Hehehe. That reminds me of cows. We have a lot of foothills in California, some fairly steep. On some of the hills cows graze even near the top. They are able to that without falling off, of course, because on the hill side their two legs are shorter. Obviously this means there are left-sided and right-sided cows. But, hey, natural adaptation is neat. My father told me that when I was a kid (except for the last part -- re adaptation), and if you are a father, I bet you've told your kids some *real* whoppers. Marnie aka Doe
Re: French on-line dealers
Hi, Saturday, February 5, 2005, 5:00:07 PM, Peter wrote: Has anyone any experience of ordering stuff on-line from France. My impression is that they do not bother answering mail in English. Any dealer you could recommend? Peter do you mean a) they do not bother to reply if your message is in English, or b) they reply, but not in English? I'm just curious. But in any case, if you need anything translating to or from French, there are plenty of people here who will be happy to help. -- Cheers, Bob
Re: RE: French on-line dealers
Utterly correct, but ... let's say Technikdirekt (Germany) or BH sell cameras, lenses, cases, tripods, studio gear, flash equipment, memory cards, editing gear, software ... What about a French equivalent? Peter Sure, but there's lots of different kinds of photo stuff.
Re: Old Film type
What do you mean, ...new equipment? New as compared to what? Did you take a hand loading reel, and try to thread or install 127 film in it, and it wouldn't work? Or how new is the equipment. What sort of equipment IS it? I don't think developing reels for 127 film have been made for some time, but I could be wrong. Are you doing it yourself or sending it to a lab/drugstore? keith whaley Jim and Lynn wrote: When I said old I really meant OLD! I can't get it process with the new equipment. I have tried. It's Verichrome Pan 127 Film Thanks for all the help. Jim
Re: PESO: Pentax girl
Very nice, Juan. Joe
Re: DA40 vs M40 (Japanese)
I can't read Japanese but I did look at the pictures, I really want one of those DA lens hoods for my 40mm M. Translated: http://babel.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=ja_entrurl=http%3a%2f%2fdc.watch.impress.co.jp%2fcda%2freview%2f2005%2f01%2f17%2f753.html lt;imggt; --- How do you squeeze a lens? Does it hurt? Joe
RE: (n)ever-ready cases--pro and con?
Fungus needs moisture AFAIR. So, keep you stuff reasonably dry. Cameras etc. that have been stored or used under humid conditions should be taken out of bags etc. to dry. I try to store cameras, lenses etc. on shelves in a cupboard. Before I go out to photograph, I fill a bag with what I expect to be using. That goes for cameras, lenses and flashes. I leave small accessories in the bag. I try not to leave the stuff in a bag too long. I have one for use when I drive (Lowepro Reporter) and one for walking/hiking (Lowepro Mini trecker) - the reporter bag would ruin my back if I walk for a long time. I only use an eveready bag for short journeys when I want to travel light and not take a lot of pictures. This will protect the camera from being bumped around inside my suitcase or bag. I harly ever carry a camera with me while doing other things - perhaps my Minox. I'd love to buy the new Contax i4R for my jacket pocket. It's 4MP and even smaller than a cell phone: http://www.contaxcameras.co.uk/digital/i4R/i4roverview_front_black.asp Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Mark Erickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 5. februar 2005 18:37 Til: Pentax-Discuss Emne: (n)ever-ready cases--pro and con? Anyone know anything regarding the pluses and minuses of storing and using cameras in ever-ready cases? Seems like it would help keep paint chips and scuffing away, but I've also read that leather cases may attract camera fungus. Thoughts? --Mark
Re: Old Film type
John Whittingham Technician -- Original Message --- From: Jim and Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 13:04:33 -0500 Subject: Old Film type When I said old I really meant OLD! I can't get it process with the new equipment. I have tried. It's Verichrome Pan 127 Film Thanks for all the help. Jim --- End of Original Message ---
Re: Discontinuement of Film SLR bodies
It would be more surprising if Pentax were planning to keep producing film cameras. How many people today are buying new film cameras? The dwindling ranks of film camera users can get second-hand cameras from Ebay at a small fraction of the price of a new camera. The fear that film will become hard to get, more expensive, and difficult to have processed, acts as a powerful disincentive to spend a lot of money on a new camera. Far better economics to concentrate resources on a growing market, than struggle to prop up a near-dead one. John On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 12:42:50 -0500, Michael T. Foulkes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was down at the local camera shop the other day and the owner told me that Pentax was planning on discontinuing all of their film based SLR's. She said the information came not from her sales rep but from another shop owner who is apparently more plugged in to what's going on. Anyone else heard about this? I'm new to the list, but I did check the archives and couldn't find anything. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: Film Hardeners
Sure they have. The guy that owns JC Photo often posts over on the analog photography users group apug.com. In fact it was one of his posts that told what was going on with Forte in Hungry. Anyone still shooting BW film ought to drop in at apug.com and look about, there is more information there than you could digest in a month of Sundays (as they say). graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Mark Cassino wrote: I don't know if this is the same film as Forte - I got it from JandCphoto.com, and don't think that they have ever disclosed who the original manufacturer is. The response to my email from the people at the Classicpan.de site was that the company was insolvent and hoped to start production again. I only used the 120 film, and it had no writing or imprint along the edge - I got the best results exposing it at ISO 100. I often used a yellow/green X1 filter with it when shooting foliage, and found that it needed an extra bump in the exposure - a 3 stop increase as opposed to a 2 stop increase - with this filter. It also had rather poor reciprocity features, and I found that I had to start adjusting the exposure for times of 2 seconds or longer. Nonetheless, I got really outstanding results developing this in HC110 or Rodinal. My standard became HC 110, Dil H, 17 minutes with very gentle agitation every 3 minutes for the first 12, then agitation every 2 minutes, and once in the last minute. When it all came together the level of detail and tonal range was just fabulous. I've experimented a bit with Tri-X and a lot with APX-100. I can get close to the same results with APX 100, but never quite the same tonal range and shadow detail. I suspect that the very short developing times for the new Tri-X and HC110 will keep me from ever getting the same from it - at least with HC110. In terms of the hardener - this film tended to curl, with hardener or not. It was easy to scratch the emulsion when hanging it or pulling it out of the spool, so I went with a hardening fixer. Since it was all was shooting for a while, I just mixed up the fixer with the hardener and left it at that. Cheers - MCC - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Original Message - From: Frantisek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mark Cassino pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 9:22 AM Subject: Re: Film Hardeners Saturday, February 5, 2005, 4:35:31 AM, Mark wrote: MC Last year I really fell in love with Classic Pan 200, and shot a ton of it. MC It hasn't been available for several months. In response to a recent email MC to classicpan.de, I've learned that the company that makes it is insolvent, MC hopes to be back,maybe will be in the spring. Is it the one made by Forte in Hungary? We bought some bulk from Forte two years ago (we=group of photographers doing digital commercially but interested in old films for personal pleasure). What we wanted was the 400 version but they had a badly labeled batch of 200 they sent us in error. Of course upon densitometry and other tests we found out, and it really was a mistake on their part, as they offered an instant remedy, exchanging it for the 400 and some bonus. So far so good. It was an interesting film, even the 200 version. But if they have problems, that's sad. Anybody in Hungary could check it out, please? Good light! fra -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 2/3/2005
Re: Film Hardeners
- Original Message - From: Mark Cassino Subject: Re: Film Hardeners Since I re-use the fixer, I don't want to add the hardener to it - and wind up with hardening fixer that I don;t want to use on APX after the CP is all gone. Maybe make up a hardening bath, and harden the film after fixing. I would rinse the film a bit first to get out the bulk of the fixer, that way your hardener will stay usable longer. William Robb
Re: Old Film type
- Original Message - From: Jim and Lynn Subject: Old Film type When I said old I really meant OLD! I can't get it process with the new equipment. I have tried. It's Verichrome Pan 127 Film http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/support/techPubs/f7/f7.jhtml#06 Gives processing times if you want to do it yourself. I would go with D-76 1:1. William Robb
RE: flash on *istDs (was: Survey D and DS result)
I resume the hints: - I will fix the sensitivity to ISO200 (or 400). - I'll try to set the flash compensation to the minus side. - I will only use lenses of F-type upwards to avoid problems (and avoid considering them). Seems that even A-lenses are handled different by the camera: On page 147 of the manual you can read: Using the flash in TV mode / ... Av mode: The shutter speed is fixed at 1/180 sec. when lens other than DA, D FA, FA J, FA or F is used. The built-in flash always discharges fully. I just tried the FA43/1.9 instead of the A30/2.8 with the built-in flash for a close-up of a flower and was quite satisfied. Bernd
Re: IMATEST comparison of Pentax Photo Laboratory and Adobe Photoshop CS RAW converter
doh. I sent a followup some hours ago, but it didn't make it back to me, so here goes again. There's not enough file space on website to host all the Tiffs at the same time, so I have uploaded the ones in the straight folder. I'll leave them up until Monday, latest, and then replace them with the ones from the straight v2 folder. Since the first send, I have verified that all the uploads came through, and that the link works. :-) Jostein - Original Message - From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 4:26 PM Subject: Re: IMATEST comparison of Pentax Photo Laboratory and Adobe Photoshop CS RAW converter Yup. File size increased with roughly 3 Mb per picture also. :-) The PhaseOne C1 RAW has two versions of colour a profile for the *istD. I've uploaded 16 bit TIFFs based on the following settings: straight: Color profile version 1 100% sharpening whitebalance and exposure unaltered. film standard response curve (default of C1) straight v2: Colour profile version 2 100% sharpening whitebalance and exposure unaltered. film standard response curve (default of C1) adjusted v2: Colour profile version 2 250% sharpening automatic setting of whitebalance and exposure, linear response response curve. Link: http://www.oksne.net/imatest/test.html The images will remain until Tuesday 8. February. I will need the space. It's 15 images of 35 megabytes each! The upload is proceeding as I write this. You'll probably get a 404 until it's done. Jostein - Original Message - From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 2:13 AM Subject: Re: IMATEST comparison of Pentax Photo Laboratory and Adobe Photoshop CS RAW converter OK, they were definitely cut off. try now. Herb... - Original Message - From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 12:19 PM Subject: Re: IMATEST comparison of Pentax Photo Laboratory and Adobe Photoshop CS RAW converter For some reason, the PEF files you uploaded doesn't load correctly in PhaseOne C1 RAW. The lower 15% of the image is just black. Never seen this with my own PEFs... Any ideas?
Re: price record?
--- Mark Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The bidding looks a little odd, too. Not to mention the seller was reluctant to provide any detail descriptions. = Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan __ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com
New LX Owner
I've just received an LX I won from eBay, and just love the feel of it. I've always wanted one since it first came out, but it's always seemed too pricey. I nearly blew my term's grant cheque on one at the time, but prudence got the better of me. This one appears to be a new model as shown on Bojidar's site, with the new style shutter release, but the film speed only goes up to 1600. The meter does come on when the exposure compensation ring release button is pressed (could be a problem if it gets pressed in the camera bag as it will drain the batteries), but I'm not sure what the description of the dot pattern on the first curtain means without some comparison. The serial number is 5299XXX. Anyone got an idea of the age of this? It has some black residue on the mirror surface, but it doesn't seem to affect it. It'll be off to Pentax UK for a full service soon. I thought the automatic mettering wasn't working until I realised the reflectance of the pressure plate would be different to that of the shutter curtain or the film - duh! It does raise one question though - do all films have the same reflectance or have things changed since the camera was released so some compensation needs to be applied? No strap lugs, so I'll have to look out for these. Need to check if the AF360FGZ works with it too. Really looking forward to playing with this. Nick.
Re: Prices of Pentax Lenses
Also, the long wait for a Pentax DSLR resulted in some defections to other brands, which depressed demand for Pentax glass between say 2002 and 2003, while putting quite a lot of used lenses onto the second-hand market. That process has presumably slowed or reversed, and digital buyers have pushed up demand for wide-angles, though not for longer teles. I recently paid quite a lot for a 20mm, and just missed bidding on a K 300mm f4 which went for very little. John On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 11:22:27 -0700, Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have noticed a sudden increase in pentax prices lately. It can't all be because of the istDs A few months after the release of the D there began to be a run on Pentax primes. It still continues, and I suspect that DS owners will soon try to join in after they decide which zoom to buy. Note that Pentax autofocus primes have virtually disappeared from KEH. Here's what I think has happened: 1. People who bought the D care about image quality and can afford Pentax primes. They began to buy FA primes. 2. Pentax, meanwhile, had stopped production of all, or at least most, FA lenses (but maybe not FAJ lenses). 3. Existing stocks began to run out. Look at Pentax USA's web site and see how few primes are now listed. 4. Pentax got caught by surprise. It was in the middle of shifting lens production to Vietnam and was planning the new DA and D FA lines. Pentax did not anticipate that suddenly the old FA primes would be in strong demand. Existing stocks have sold out, or nearly so, and they are no longer being produced. 5. Nguyen is ill again this winter. 6. Ebay prices began to shoot up. Joe -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: New LX Owner
On 5/2/05, Nick Clark, discombobulated, unleashed: Really looking forward to playing with this. You'll soon have that...aLX feeling...and theahhh... LX wink: ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Discontinuement of Film SLR bodies
On 5/2/05, Michael T. Foulkes, discombobulated, unleashed: I was down at the local camera shop the other day and the owner told me that Pentax was planning on discontinuing all of their film based SLR's. She said the information came not from her sales rep but from another shop owner who is apparently more plugged in to what's going on. Anyone else heard about this? I'm new to the list, but I did check the archives and couldn't find anything. I'm surprised they've lasted this long ! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: New LX Owner
According to the SN, it's an older camera. Many have received updates and mods as they've been repaired. Check the shutter curtain for the dot pattern. The curtains with missing dots are newer. Newest SN's are 535, etc. I recall that Rob Studdert had a few pages he put up detailing some of the differences and provided photos. Shel From: Nick Clark This one appears to be a new model as shown on Bojidar's site, with the new style shutter release, but the film speed only goes up to 1600. The meter does come on when the exposure compensation ring release button is pressed (could be a problem if it gets pressed in the camera bag as it will drain the batteries), but I'm not sure what the description of the dot pattern on the first curtain means without some comparison. The serial number is 5299XXX. Anyone got an idea of the age of this?
Re: New LX Owner
If the film speed only goes to 1600, it's a very early model. But it has apparently been upgraded with new parts during service. That's a good thing. I think that a CLA would be a good idea, while Pentax is still providing service. I'm sure you'll enjoy it. It's a wonderful camera. Paul I've just received an LX I won from eBay, and just love the feel of it. I've always wanted one since it first came out, but it's always seemed too pricey. I nearly blew my term's grant cheque on one at the time, but prudence got the better of me. This one appears to be a new model as shown on Bojidar's site, with the new style shutter release, but the film speed only goes up to 1600. The meter does come on when the exposure compensation ring release button is pressed (could be a problem if it gets pressed in the camera bag as it will drain the batteries), but I'm not sure what the description of the dot pattern on the first curtain means without some comparison. The serial number is 5299XXX. Anyone got an idea of the age of this? It has some black residue on the mirror surface, but it doesn't seem to affect it. It'll be off to Pentax UK for a full service soon. I thought the automatic mettering wasn't working until I realised the reflectance of the pressure plate would be different to that of the shutter curtain or the film - duh! It does raise one question though - do all films have the same reflectance or have things changed since the camera was released so some compensation needs to be applied? No strap lugs, so I'll have to look out for these. Need to check if the AF360FGZ works with it too. Really looking forward to playing with this. Nick.
RE: New LX Owner
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/thepentaxlx.html Shel [Original Message] From: Nick Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've just received an LX I won from eBay
RE: New LX Owner
According to the SN, it's an older camera. Many have received updates and mods as they've been repaired. Check the shutter curtain for the dot pattern. The curtains with missing dots are newer. Newest SN's (for the standard LX) are 535, etc. I recall that Rob Studdert had a few pages he put up detailing some of the differences and provided photos. Shel From: Nick Clark This one appears to be a new model as shown on Bojidar's site, with the new style shutter release, but the film speed only goes up to 1600. The meter does come on when the exposure compensation ring release button is pressed (could be a problem if it gets pressed in the camera bag as it will drain the batteries), but I'm not sure what the description of the dot pattern on the first curtain means without some comparison. The serial number is 5299XXX. Anyone got an idea of the age of this?
Re: Loupe de Loup
Seems that Mamiya (Cabin) have one ... haven't looked at or through it yet. Shel [Original Message] From: David Mann Also, since I'm now the owner of a 6x6 format camera, which loupes can be recommended? Anything that'll cover the entire neg and give about a 4x - 5x magnification? Hmm, a good 6x6 loupe with that kind of magnification might be hard to find.
Re: New LX Owner
Mark Cassio has an article on his site about TTL and film reflectivity. http://www.markcassino.com/essays/ttlflash.htm His article is about TTL flash photography, but his findings are very interesting for general use with the LX also. Cheers, Jostein (owning an almost forgotten LX...) - Original Message - From: Nick Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 9:58 PM Subject: New LX Owner I've just received an LX I won from eBay, and just love the feel of it. I've always wanted one since it first came out, but it's always seemed too pricey. I nearly blew my term's grant cheque on one at the time, but prudence got the better of me. This one appears to be a new model as shown on Bojidar's site, with the new style shutter release, but the film speed only goes up to 1600. The meter does come on when the exposure compensation ring release button is pressed (could be a problem if it gets pressed in the camera bag as it will drain the batteries), but I'm not sure what the description of the dot pattern on the first curtain means without some comparison. The serial number is 5299XXX. Anyone got an idea of the age of this? It has some black residue on the mirror surface, but it doesn't seem to affect it. It'll be off to Pentax UK for a full service soon. I thought the automatic mettering wasn't working until I realised the reflectance of the pressure plate would be different to that of the shutter curtain or the film - duh! It does raise one question though - do all films have the same reflectance or have things changed since the camera was released so some compensation needs to be applied? No strap lugs, so I'll have to look out for these. Need to check if the AF360FGZ works with it too. Really looking forward to playing with this. Nick.
Re: RE: French on-line dealers
And are you, Shel, able to advise on all these divers kinds of French dealers? John On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 10:31:52 -0800, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure, but there's lots of different kinds of photo stuff. Cameras (digital and film, small format, medium format, large format), lenses, cases, tripods, studio gear, flash equipment, memory cards, editing gear, software ... some dealers may specialize in one area or another, or have better deals or service for some items. One might assume that since this is a Pentax list the question would refer to Pentax gear, but we know that's not the case since people here use many different brands of gear. Let's try not to assume too much ;-)) Shel From: John Forbesnch on-line dealers As this is a photographic list, a reasonable assumption would be photographic equipment. Of course, the words dealer and stuff might refer to something very different, though I doubt it. John On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 09:11:51 -0800, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stuff encompasses a very large group of things. What kind of stuff? Shel -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: Film Hardeners
It's my recollection that using at least some contemporary BW films with a hardening fixer will induce curling. That has been my experience with a couple of films (don't recall which now). Anyway, I no longer use a hardening fix ... Shel From: William Robb - Original Message - From: Mark Cassino Subject: Re: Film Hardeners Since I re-use the fixer, I don't want to add the hardener to it - and wind up with hardening fixer that I don;t want to use on APX after the CP is all gone. Maybe make up a hardening bath, and harden the film after fixing. I would rinse the film a bit first to get out the bulk of the fixer, that way your hardener will stay usable longer. William Robb
Re: RE: French on-line dealers
Well, just admit it ... nobody knows anyting about it! To quote your president: France enjoys a rich history, a picturesque and varied landscape and a temperate climate. In short, it would be a very nice country if French people didn't inhabit it, and it weren't still radioactive from all the nuclear tests they run.. The best thing that can be said for it is that it is not Spain. Peter
Re: My First GESO: Fun with a Fisheye-Takumar 18mm f11
You, know I was just in Reed's yesterday. Wonder if you were there? Nah, I usually have thursdays and fridays off. Feel free to drop by any other time, though. Work's been mind-numbingly slow, I wouldn't mind one bit. (: John, one tinsy winsy little suggestion -- when you put up more than one shot it's nice if each one, in non-thumbnail view, has little arrows or something so you can go back and forward between shots. It's pain to have to keep going back to the index page to click on thumbnails to see them all. So I admit, I stopped after about three. I suppose it would be nice, but I do all the coding on my site by hand, so adding forward and back links can be a huge increase in labor. Someday I'll find a program to automate webpage creation, but in the meantime visitors will just have to hit their back button. Also, this particular bunch of photos was just for fun and not going to be permanent, so I didn't put a whole lot of time into the project. Thanks for your comments, John Celio -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.newpixel.net AIM: Neopifex Hey, I'm an artist. I can do whatever I want and pretend I'm making a statement.
Re: (n)ever-ready cases--pro and con?
The only cases I have are for the ES and ESII Spotmatics. I never keep the cameras in them. The cases came with the cameras when I bought them. To me, it's no big deal whether the cameras get a little nick here and there. I want my equipment at the ready for anything. Jim A. Anyone know anything regarding the pluses and minuses of storing and using cameras in ever-ready cases? Seems like it would help keep paint chips and scuffing away, but I've also read that leather cases may attract camera fungus. Thoughts? --Mark
Re: RE: French on-line dealers
Peter, what are you talking about? You need to quote the message that you are replying to. The way in which meesages are forwarded here is known only to God, and you can't rely on your readers having received the same messages as you. John PS: I can't think which president you are referring to. The use of passable grammar rules out GW Bush, and who else is sufficently crass? On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 22:59:54 +0100, Peter Smekal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, just admit it ... nobody knows anyting about it! To quote your president: France enjoys a rich history, a picturesque and varied landscape and a temperate climate. In short, it would be a very nice country if French people didn't inhabit it, and it weren't still radioactive from all the nuclear tests they run.. The best thing that can be said for it is that it is not Spain. Peter -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: DA-40mm and spiders
Ah, but I've already got the M ;-) Nick -Original Message- From: Peter J. Alling[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05/02/05 00:11:58 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.netpentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: DA-40mm and spiders Since you can get the M lens for between 125 and 199 I doubt you save anything... Nick Clark wrote: Does this mean it's identical optically to my SMC-M 40mm f2.8, so I can save a fortune buying the new one? Nick -Original Message- From: Lindamood, Mark[EMAIL PROTECTED] Second, Margus Mannik's observation of no DA 40mm vignetting through the PZ-1p viewfinder is also terrific. Several have posted that the DA lenses throw only an APS-size image circle, but I can't see any reason why that's the case. The DA 40mm objective element is exactly the same size as the original pancake, and the entire lens formulation is probably similar. Why would it throw a smaller circle? What I'm getting at is whether the lens will work on the other Pentax bodies despite being advertised as exclusive to the *ist bodies. Maybe Pentax is just trying to avoid sales competition with the 43 ltd.? Margus, can you post one of your shots with that nice DA 40mm lens? -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: My First GESO: Fun with a Fisheye-Takumar 18mm f11
There's little point in coding by hand if it doesn't result in a better user experience. Why not use the thumbnail creation facility in Irfanview? Free, very quick, creates a webpage with arrows. John On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 14:13:34 -0800, John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You, know I was just in Reed's yesterday. Wonder if you were there? Nah, I usually have thursdays and fridays off. Feel free to drop by any other time, though. Work's been mind-numbingly slow, I wouldn't mind one bit. (: John, one tinsy winsy little suggestion -- when you put up more than one shot it's nice if each one, in non-thumbnail view, has little arrows or something so you can go back and forward between shots. It's pain to have to keep going back to the index page to click on thumbnails to see them all. So I admit, I stopped after about three. I suppose it would be nice, but I do all the coding on my site by hand, so adding forward and back links can be a huge increase in labor. Someday I'll find a program to automate webpage creation, but in the meantime visitors will just have to hit their back button. Also, this particular bunch of photos was just for fun and not going to be permanent, so I didn't put a whole lot of time into the project. Thanks for your comments, John Celio -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.newpixel.net AIM: Neopifex Hey, I'm an artist. I can do whatever I want and pretend I'm making a statement. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
SMA Pentax 1:3.5/15
I just picked up one of these SMA Pentax 1:3.5/15 babies in pristine condition (not even any evidence that it was ever actually mounted on a camera), in case for US$890 plus tax which I consider to be an excellent bargain. I'm off to the pier to make it look 2 miles long. I have a granite, gothic church to shoot interiors of too. Regards, Bob...
Re: Discontinuement of Film SLR bodies
You mean... Discontinuation. Regards, Bob... (Who has little better to do) From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Discontinuement of Film SLR bodies
Re: Discontinuement of Film SLR bodies
Don't tell me, tell the OP. :-) John On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 14:35:39 -0800, Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean... Discontinuation. Regards, Bob... (Who has little better to do) From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Discontinuement of Film SLR bodies -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: (n)ever-ready cases--pro and con?
I like ERCs. They add protection when out in adverse weather conditions, and also mean I can chuck the camera in a rucksack with other stuff and it will be protected. I partly agree about the film changing issue, but the old M series cases were the best in this regard as they didn't use the tripod socket but clipped over the strap lugs. Very quick and ea y to remove. The MX case with the front meant for the 40mm pancake is a marvel. Nick -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05/02/05 18:00:36 They're a burden. On a film camera you have to remove it to change film. I've never seen one on a digital SLR, but you would have to remove it to get at any of the functions on the back or to remove the CF card. Never ready cases are for people who leave one roll of film in the camera for six months and take four shots at every family event. Paul On Feb 5, 2005, at 12:36 PM, Mark Erickson wrote:
Re: SMA Pentax 1:3.5/15
Very reasonable. Here in the UK, the list price is equivalent to $2,638. J On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 14:30:51 -0800, Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just picked up one of these SMA Pentax 1:3.5/15 babies in pristine condition (not even any evidence that it was ever actually mounted on a camera), in case for US$890 plus tax which I consider to be an excellent bargain. I'm off to the pier to make it look 2 miles long. I have a granite, gothic church to shoot interiors of too. Regards, Bob... -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: PESO - Waning Light
Another stunning image from Bruce. Yawn. Bruce, you always have stunning images. Don't you get bored being perfect? Just kidding of course. I do greatly admire and enjoy your photography. Give me your thoughts on the optics of the Tokina AT-X AF 400. I have had one for a while and think it is pretty good, except for f5.6. In fact I recommended it on dpreview recently and, lo and behold, within a short while one of two at KEH disappeared. Lately I have been thinking about trading it in for the FA 400 f5.6. The attraction of the FA 400 is that it is just about as good at f5.6 as it is stopped down. I don't know whether that is worth spending the money, though. Still pondering. Joe
Re: First PESO
Thanks to everyone who commented. Some thought it was okay soft, while Shel didn't like it that way. That's fine. I tried minimal sharpening in nik sharpener, but that mainly popped out the little white flowers on the hanging foliage, which I thought was distracting. Some images just don't seem to sharpen well. Joe
Re: Prices of Pentax Lenses
The M* and A* 300's are still quite pricey. John Forbes wrote: Also, the long wait for a Pentax DSLR resulted in some defections to other brands, which depressed demand for Pentax glass between say 2002 and 2003, while putting quite a lot of used lenses onto the second-hand market. That process has presumably slowed or reversed, and digital buyers have pushed up demand for wide-angles, though not for longer teles. I recently paid quite a lot for a 20mm, and just missed bidding on a K 300mm f4 which went for very little. John On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 11:22:27 -0700, Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have noticed a sudden increase in pentax prices lately. It can't all be because of the istDs A few months after the release of the D there began to be a run on Pentax primes. It still continues, and I suspect that DS owners will soon try to join in after they decide which zoom to buy. Note that Pentax autofocus primes have virtually disappeared from KEH. Here's what I think has happened: 1. People who bought the D care about image quality and can afford Pentax primes. They began to buy FA primes. 2. Pentax, meanwhile, had stopped production of all, or at least most, FA lenses (but maybe not FAJ lenses). 3. Existing stocks began to run out. Look at Pentax USA's web site and see how few primes are now listed. 4. Pentax got caught by surprise. It was in the middle of shifting lens production to Vietnam and was planning the new DA and D FA lines. Pentax did not anticipate that suddenly the old FA primes would be in strong demand. Existing stocks have sold out, or nearly so, and they are no longer being produced. 5. Nguyen is ill again this winter. 6. Ebay prices began to shoot up. Joe -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
PAW: First Robin of Spring
The temperature reached almost 50 degrees F in Michigan today. I went shooting on the banks of the Rouge River and was surprised to see a few Robins. It seems a bit early for these spring arrivals, but I'm not complaining. Maybe they know something we don't. Here's one. Again, this is handheld with the *istD, tha A 400/5.6 and the A2XS converter. So the fov is equivelant to a 1200 mm lens on a 35mm camera. ISO 800, f 5.6 @ 1/1000. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3095297size=lg
Re: French on-line dealers
Schroeder. Besides Bush in spite of his mangled syntax is more of a politician than to have said this, he'd have let Rummy say it. John Forbes wrote: Peter, what are you talking about? You need to quote the message that you are replying to. The way in which meesages are forwarded here is known only to God, and you can't rely on your readers having received the same messages as you. John PS: I can't think which president you are referring to. The use of passable grammar rules out GW Bush, and who else is sufficently crass? On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 22:59:54 +0100, Peter Smekal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, just admit it ... nobody knows anyting about it! To quote your president: France enjoys a rich history, a picturesque and varied landscape and a temperate climate. In short, it would be a very nice country if French people didn't inhabit it, and it weren't still radioactive from all the nuclear tests they run.. The best thing that can be said for it is that it is not Spain. Peter -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: PAW: First Robin of Spring
Nice! I was born and raised in Northern Ohio. We had tons of Robins in the spring! One of the earliest birds to show up in the spring. I think it's still got a lot of Winter to go yet, along the southern Lake Erie and Michigan shores. Wonder where they'll go to keep out of the worst of it? keith whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The temperature reached almost 50 degrees F in Michigan today. I went shooting on the banks of the Rouge River and was surprised to see a few Robins. It seems a bit early for these spring arrivals, but I'm not complaining. Maybe they know something we don't. Here's one. Again, this is handheld with the *istD, tha A 400/5.6 and the A2XS converter. So the fov is equivelant to a 1200 mm lens on a 35mm camera. ISO 800, f 5.6 @ 1/1000. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3095297size=lg
RE: [pdml] Discontinuement of Film SLR bodies
This has been discussed (at least with me) by Aaron (former list member and one of the original brotherhood members) :D and if there is more than one person stating this, it may be some sort of confirmation of this being more than just a rumour. Aaron had asked me if I had seen or heard about this rumour on the list but I had seen diddly - apparently though, it appears its not just one person up here in Canada who has heard this but also your local camera shop owner down in the states. Just my 2 cents (which is not worth 2 cents really.. more like.. 0.5 cents) :) Cheers Dave -Original Message- From: Michael T. Foulkes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 12:43 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: [pdml] Discontinuement of Film SLR bodies I was down at the local camera shop the other day and the owner told me that Pentax was planning on discontinuing all of their film based SLR's. She said the information came not from her sales rep but from another shop owner who is apparently more plugged in to what's going on. Anyone else heard about this? I'm new to the list, but I did check the archives and couldn't find anything.
Re: Prices of Pentax Lenses
I've noticed that the prices on all Pentax lenses seem to be up by a considerable amount. Yes, it's most evident among the shorter lenses (FA 50/1.4s are going for more than BH's new price on ebay -- $209-- and BH is sold out.) If you missed the thread about Pentax digital on the Leica forum, go take a look. The *istD and *istDS have revived the brand. I guess that's a good thing. Paul The M* and A* 300's are still quite pricey. John Forbes wrote: Also, the long wait for a Pentax DSLR resulted in some defections to other brands, which depressed demand for Pentax glass between say 2002 and 2003, while putting quite a lot of used lenses onto the second-hand market. That process has presumably slowed or reversed, and digital buyers have pushed up demand for wide-angles, though not for longer teles. I recently paid quite a lot for a 20mm, and just missed bidding on a K 300mm f4 which went for very little. John On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 11:22:27 -0700, Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have noticed a sudden increase in pentax prices lately. It can't all be because of the istDs A few months after the release of the D there began to be a run on Pentax primes. It still continues, and I suspect that DS owners will soon try to join in after they decide which zoom to buy. Note that Pentax autofocus primes have virtually disappeared from KEH. Here's what I think has happened: 1. People who bought the D care about image quality and can afford Pentax primes. They began to buy FA primes. 2. Pentax, meanwhile, had stopped production of all, or at least most, FA lenses (but maybe not FAJ lenses). 3. Existing stocks began to run out. Look at Pentax USA's web site and see how few primes are now listed. 4. Pentax got caught by surprise. It was in the middle of shifting lens production to Vietnam and was planning the new DA and D FA lines. Pentax did not anticipate that suddenly the old FA primes would be in strong demand. Existing stocks have sold out, or nearly so, and they are no longer being produced. 5. Nguyen is ill again this winter. 6. Ebay prices began to shoot up. Joe -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: Film Hardeners
It's my recollection that using at least some contemporary BW films with a hardening fixer will induce curling. That has been my experience with a couple of films (don't recall which now). Anyway, I no longer use a hardening fix ... Shel From: William Robb - Original Message - From: Mark Cassino Subject: Re: Film Hardeners Since I re-use the fixer, I don't want to add the hardener to it - and wind up with hardening fixer that I don;t want to use on APX after the CP is all gone. Maybe make up a hardening bath, and harden the film after fixing. I would rinse the film a bit first to get out the bulk of the fixer, that way your hardener will stay usable longer. William Robb Shel
Re: RE: French on-line dealers
No, but I do have a friend who spends a lot of time in France, and she's also a photographer. She might know something. But really, what I know, or what I can do is irrelevant. The point is that if you want something it's usually best to be specific rather than general. As it happens, my comment generated a little discussion on the subject and it's been determined that Peter is looking for a Pentax DSLR. With that information now on the list, the chances of him finding a shop that will provide what he wants is greater. It's all comes down to the old adage, The more you know, the better your luck. Shel [Original Message] From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Date: 2/5/2005 1:58:31 PM Subject: Re: RE: French on-line dealers And are you, Shel, able to advise on all these divers kinds of French dealers? John
Re: Old Film type
Verichrome Pan is a regular bw film and as such still processable. You may have to search ebay for a tank for that size as hardly anyone uses 127 anymore (the adjustable plastic reel type will work). If you have a friend with a darkroom who knows what he is doing it can be process in trays. You just hold the ends of the film and pull the hanging loop of film back and forth in the chemicals (at one time most roll film was developed that way (1940). You have a 50-50 change of getting printable images if you overdevelope it a bit (n+1 to n+2). If said friend is real knowledgable he will clip off a short piece of the film and trial process it, so he has some idea just how much to push the film for best results. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Jim and Lynn wrote: When I said old I really meant OLD! I can't get it process with the new equipment. I have tried. It's Verichrome Pan 127 Film Thanks for all the help. Jim -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 2/3/2005
Re: French on-line dealers
I'm sure you're right about Bush, but Schroeder? I suspect it's actually a spoof by O'Rourke. John On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 18:38:16 -0500, Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Schroeder. Besides Bush in spite of his mangled syntax is more of a politician than to have said this, he'd have let Rummy say it. John Forbes wrote: Peter, what are you talking about? You need to quote the message that you are replying to. The way in which meesages are forwarded here is known only to God, and you can't rely on your readers having received the same messages as you. John PS: I can't think which president you are referring to. The use of passable grammar rules out GW Bush, and who else is sufficently crass? On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 22:59:54 +0100, Peter Smekal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, just admit it ... nobody knows anyting about it! To quote your president: France enjoys a rich history, a picturesque and varied landscape and a temperate climate. In short, it would be a very nice country if French people didn't inhabit it, and it weren't still radioactive from all the nuclear tests they run.. The best thing that can be said for it is that it is not Spain. Peter -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: RE: French on-line dealers
http://www.jardmail.co.uk/misc/franceguide.shtml See the conclusion. William Robb - Original Message - From: Peter Smekal Subject: Re: RE: French on-line dealers Well, just admit it ... nobody knows anyting about it! To quote your president: France enjoys a rich history, a picturesque and varied landscape and a temperate climate. In short, it would be a very nice country if French people didn't inhabit it, and it weren't still radioactive from all the nuclear tests they run.. The best thing that can be said for it is that it is not Spain. Peter
Re: First PESO
Hi Joe, There are numerous ways to sharpen, and while I cannot advise on them all, what seems to work well, using various techniques, is selective sharpening. So, for example, you could sharpen the foliage on the wall but not the white flower, or you could sharpen the wall to a different degree than the foliage, and so on. What I think is really unimportant. That the subject gets opened further for discussion is more important, and frankly, more interesting. In photoshop alone, for example, there are numerous sharpening methods, all of which can be used on selected areas to varying degrees. I believe that your image can be sharpened very well using the high pass filter, the unsharp mask filter, and the sharpening brush, and using layers and possibly some masking. In the FWIW department, rarely will I sharpen an entire image. In a portrait, for example, only the face, or certain portions of the face may be sharpened, and different areas to different degrees. I may not sharpen the sky or water in a landscape, but may sharpen bushes, trees, or rocks, and those in the foreground to a different degree than those further in the background. Anyway, you get the idea. Shel [Original Message] From: Joseph Tainter Thanks to everyone who commented. Some thought it was okay soft, while Shel didn't like it that way. That's fine. I tried minimal sharpening in nik sharpener, but that mainly popped out the little white flowers on the hanging foliage, which I thought was distracting. Some images just don't seem to sharpen well.
Re: Film Hardeners
Over the last several months, I've dug through the archives at APUG, looking into both Classic Pan and the new JandC Pro 100. But, like virtually any internet resource, there is mis-information sitting next to valid info, and telling them apart is the challenge. I missed the discussion about Forte and Classic Pan being the same - I'll have to do some more searching to dig it up. Did he offer any explanation as to why the developing times on his site are different - often very different - than the times that Forte lists for FortePan 200? (Of course, the times that classicpan.de list are also different from both of the other sites...) At one point in time Forte and Classic Pan were lumped together on the Massive developer chart -I have a printout from last May showing them together - but now they are separate. Out of curiosity - have you seen any indication as to what the ultimate origin of the new JandC Pro 100 is? There is a persistent rumor that it is rebranded old Lucky 100 film from China, but JandC has denied that in the APUG (without ever saying where it _does_ come from.) I picked up a few dozen rolls to play around with, but have not found it to be anything near CP200 in terms of quality, and have had only so-so results with HC100, D76, and Rodinal. I recently tried it with Microdol-X 1:3, and it that shows promise, though at this point I've basically relegated it to the Holga, Ansco, and Argus boxes. - MCC - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Original Message - From: Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 3:41 PM Subject: Re: Film Hardeners Sure they have. The guy that owns JC Photo often posts over on the analog photography users group apug.com. In fact it was one of his posts that told what was going on with Forte in Hungry. Anyone still shooting BW film ought to drop in at apug.com and look about, there is more information there than you could digest in a month of Sundays (as they say). graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Mark Cassino wrote: I don't know if this is the same film as Forte - I got it from JandCphoto.com, and don't think that they have ever disclosed who the original manufacturer is. The response to my email from the people at the Classicpan.de site was that the company was insolvent and hoped to start production again. I only used the 120 film, and it had no writing or imprint along the edge - I got the best results exposing it at ISO 100. I often used a yellow/green X1 filter with it when shooting foliage, and found that it needed an extra bump in the exposure - a 3 stop increase as opposed to a 2 stop increase - with this filter. It also had rather poor reciprocity features, and I found that I had to start adjusting the exposure for times of 2 seconds or longer. Nonetheless, I got really outstanding results developing this in HC110 or Rodinal. My standard became HC 110, Dil H, 17 minutes with very gentle agitation every 3 minutes for the first 12, then agitation every 2 minutes, and once in the last minute. When it all came together the level of detail and tonal range was just fabulous. I've experimented a bit with Tri-X and a lot with APX-100. I can get close to the same results with APX 100, but never quite the same tonal range and shadow detail. I suspect that the very short developing times for the new Tri-X and HC110 will keep me from ever getting the same from it - at least with HC110. In terms of the hardener - this film tended to curl, with hardener or not. It was easy to scratch the emulsion when hanging it or pulling it out of the spool, so I went with a hardening fixer. Since it was all was shooting for a while, I just mixed up the fixer with the hardener and left it at that. Cheers - MCC - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Original Message - From: Frantisek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mark Cassino pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 9:22 AM Subject: Re: Film Hardeners Saturday, February 5, 2005, 4:35:31 AM, Mark wrote: MC Last year I really fell in love with Classic Pan 200, and shot a ton of it. MC It hasn't been available for several months. In response to a recent email MC to classicpan.de, I've learned that the company that makes it is insolvent, MC hopes to be back,maybe will be in the spring. Is it the one made by Forte in Hungary? We bought some bulk from Forte two years ago (we=group of photographers doing digital commercially but interested in old films for personal pleasure). What we wanted was the 400 version but they had a badly labeled batch of 200 they sent us in error. Of course upon densitometry and other tests we found out,
Re: My First GESO: Fun with a Fisheye-Takumar 18mm f11
Quoting John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED]: (replying to) John, one tinsy winsy little suggestion -- when you put up more than one shot it's nice if each one, in non-thumbnail view, has little arrows or something so you can go back and forward between shots. It's pain to have to keep going back to the index page to click on thumbnails to see them all. So I admit, I stopped after about three. I suppose it would be nice, but I do all the coding on my site by hand, so adding forward and back links can be a huge increase in labor. Someday I'll find a program to automate webpage creation ... If you happen to have Photoshop Elements, that'll do it. ERNR
Re: French on-line dealers
Just a comment on who might be crass enough, but Schroeder is too much of a politician as well, he'd let a member of his cabinet say something like that too. John Forbes wrote: I'm sure you're right about Bush, but Schroeder? I suspect it's actually a spoof by O'Rourke. John On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 18:38:16 -0500, Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Schroeder. Besides Bush in spite of his mangled syntax is more of a politician than to have said this, he'd have let Rummy say it. John Forbes wrote: Peter, what are you talking about? You need to quote the message that you are replying to. The way in which meesages are forwarded here is known only to God, and you can't rely on your readers having received the same messages as you. John PS: I can't think which president you are referring to. The use of passable grammar rules out GW Bush, and who else is sufficently crass? On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 22:59:54 +0100, Peter Smekal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, just admit it ... nobody knows anyting about it! To quote your president: France enjoys a rich history, a picturesque and varied landscape and a temperate climate. In short, it would be a very nice country if French people didn't inhabit it, and it weren't still radioactive from all the nuclear tests they run.. The best thing that can be said for it is that it is not Spain. Peter -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: RE: French on-line dealers
Ah! John On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 18:07:20 -0600, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.jardmail.co.uk/misc/franceguide.shtml See the conclusion. William Robb - Original Message - From: Peter Smekal Subject: Re: RE: French on-line dealers Well, just admit it ... nobody knows anyting about it! To quote your president: France enjoys a rich history, a picturesque and varied landscape and a temperate climate. In short, it would be a very nice country if French people didn't inhabit it, and it weren't still radioactive from all the nuclear tests they run.. The best thing that can be said for it is that it is not Spain. Peter -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: PESO: Spit to Manly walk
Marnie wrote: Interesting shot (re middle one -- Zenitar) -- thanks for sharing. Is the lower one shot with the 77 limited too? Hi Marnie, Last two were with the Zenitar 16mm. Pretty usable lens for the price. D
Re: PESO: Spit to Manly walk
Good job Derby - it's an area I'm pretty familiar with and reckon you've done a good job of summarising it with these three shots. Well done. Cheers, David Derby Chang wrote: Since fisheye shots seem to be in fashion at the moment, here's a little PESO page from me. The manual metering with the non-A Zenitar is really not a problem. In fact I think it helps me take a moments pause to consider the image before I press the shutter. Hard to believe this place is 30min from the city centre. http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~derbyc/PESO/peso.htm D -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 3/02/2005
Re: Film Hardeners
Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure they have. The guy that owns JC Photo often posts over on the analog photography users group apug.com. apug.com appears to be the Asia Pacific Utilities Group :( -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Film Hardeners
Mark Roberts wrote: Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure they have. The guy that owns JC Photo often posts over on the analog photography users group apug.com. apug.com appears to be the Asia Pacific Utilities Group :( It's dot org. /Henri
Re: Prices of Pentax Lenses
What Leica forum are you referring to? Do you have a link to it? TIA PS: I can't believe some of the prices on ebay recently. Almost makes me think about selling all of my gear. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've noticed that the prices on all Pentax lenses seem to be up by a considerable amount. Yes, it's most evident among the shorter lenses (FA 50/1.4s are going for more than BH's new price on ebay -- $209-- and BH is sold out.) If you missed the thread about Pentax digital on the Leica forum, go take a look. The *istD and *istDS have revived the brand. I guess that's a good thing. Paul The M* and A* 300's are still quite pricey. John Forbes wrote: Also, the long wait for a Pentax DSLR resulted in some defections to other brands, which depressed demand for Pentax glass between say 2002 and 2003, while putting quite a lot of used lenses onto the second-hand market. That process has presumably slowed or reversed, and digital buyers have pushed up demand for wide-angles, though not for longer teles. I recently paid quite a lot for a 20mm, and just missed bidding on a K 300mm f4 which went for very little. John On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 11:22:27 -0700, Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have noticed a sudden increase in pentax prices lately. It can't all be because of the istDs A few months after the release of the D there began to be a run on Pentax primes. It still continues, and I suspect that DS owners will soon try to join in after they decide which zoom to buy. Note that Pentax autofocus primes have virtually disappeared from KEH. Here's what I think has happened: 1. People who bought the D care about image quality and can afford Pentax primes. They began to buy FA primes. 2. Pentax, meanwhile, had stopped production of all, or at least most, FA lenses (but maybe not FAJ lenses). 3. Existing stocks began to run out. Look at Pentax USA's web site and see how few primes are now listed. 4. Pentax got caught by surprise. It was in the middle of shifting lens production to Vietnam and was planning the new DA and D FA lines. Pentax did not anticipate that suddenly the old FA primes would be in strong demand. Existing stocks have sold out, or nearly so, and they are no longer being produced. 5. Nguyen is ill again this winter. 6. Ebay prices began to shoot up. Joe -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: French on-line dealers
...and it weren't still radioactive from all the nuclear tests they run. The grammar isn't passable, although it may have been correct in the original. It's obviously a misguided attempt at humor. It's disparaging to both the French and to whomever one might attribute it. It doesn't belong here. Just a comment on who might be crass enough, but Schroeder is too much of a politician as well, he'd let a member of his cabinet say something like that too. John Forbes wrote: I'm sure you're right about Bush, but Schroeder? I suspect it's actually a spoof by O'Rourke. John On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 18:38:16 -0500, Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Schroeder. Besides Bush in spite of his mangled syntax is more of a politician than to have said this, he'd have let Rummy say it. John Forbes wrote: Peter, what are you talking about? You need to quote the message that you are replying to. The way in which meesages are forwarded here is known only to God, and you can't rely on your readers having received the same messages as you. John PS: I can't think which president you are referring to. The use of passable grammar rules out GW Bush, and who else is sufficently crass? On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 22:59:54 +0100, Peter Smekal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, just admit it ... nobody knows anyting about it! To quote your president: France enjoys a rich history, a picturesque and varied landscape and a temperate climate. In short, it would be a very nice country if French people didn't inhabit it, and it weren't still radioactive from all the nuclear tests they run.. The best thing that can be said for it is that it is not Spain. Peter -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: Prices of Pentax Lenses
The Pnoto Net Leica forum is here: http://www.photo.net/bboard/forum?topic_id=1548 The recent Pentax digital thread is here: http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00B20N Paul What Leica forum are you referring to? Do you have a link to it? TIA PS: I can't believe some of the prices on ebay recently. Almost makes me think about selling all of my gear. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've noticed that the prices on all Pentax lenses seem to be up by a considerable amount. Yes, it's most evident among the shorter lenses (FA 50/1.4s are going for more than BH's new price on ebay -- $209-- and BH is sold out.) If you missed the thread about Pentax digital on the Leica forum, go take a look. The *istD and *istDS have revived the brand. I guess that's a good thing. Paul The M* and A* 300's are still quite pricey. John Forbes wrote: Also, the long wait for a Pentax DSLR resulted in some defections to other brands, which depressed demand for Pentax glass between say 2002 and 2003, while putting quite a lot of used lenses onto the second-hand market. That process has presumably slowed or reversed, and digital buyers have pushed up demand for wide-angles, though not for longer teles. I recently paid quite a lot for a 20mm, and just missed bidding on a K 300mm f4 which went for very little. John On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 11:22:27 -0700, Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have noticed a sudden increase in pentax prices lately. It can't all be because of the istDs A few months after the release of the D there began to be a run on Pentax primes. It still continues, and I suspect that DS owners will soon try to join in after they decide which zoom to buy. Note that Pentax autofocus primes have virtually disappeared from KEH. Here's what I think has happened: 1. People who bought the D care about image quality and can afford Pentax primes. They began to buy FA primes. 2. Pentax, meanwhile, had stopped production of all, or at least most, FA lenses (but maybe not FAJ lenses). 3. Existing stocks began to run out. Look at Pentax USA's web site and see how few primes are now listed. 4. Pentax got caught by surprise. It was in the middle of shifting lens production to Vietnam and was planning the new DA and D FA lines. Pentax did not anticipate that suddenly the old FA primes would be in strong demand. Existing stocks have sold out, or nearly so, and they are no longer being produced. 5. Nguyen is ill again this winter. 6. Ebay prices began to shoot up. Joe -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [pdml] Discontinuement of Film SLR bodies
Interesting observation I made while working in the photo shop today: We're now selling more black white film (Tri-X, TMAX 400 and 100 and a bit of 3200) than color film. This is because sales of color film have dropped off precipitously and sales of BW have gone up a little. We're one of only two shops in Pittsburgh where you can get non-C41 black white (none of the serious photographers or students will consider Ritz g) so we're getting a lot of photo student business, being near to Carnegie-Mellon University, Carlow College and the University of Pittsburgh, as well as Pittsburgh Filmmakers, an independent film and photography outfit. Single-use cameras represent about 1/3 of our lab's volume. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: First Robin of Spring
I heard one hits morning but didn't spot any (saw a blue bird in the afternoon though...) Nice shot - let's hope it's the anti-groundhog robin and we won't have 6 more weeks of winter! - MCC - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 6:20 PM Subject: PAW: First Robin of Spring The temperature reached almost 50 degrees F in Michigan today. I went shooting on the banks of the Rouge River and was surprised to see a few Robins. It seems a bit early for these spring arrivals, but I'm not complaining. Maybe they know something we don't. Here's one. Again, this is handheld with the *istD, tha A 400/5.6 and the A2XS converter. So the fov is equivelant to a 1200 mm lens on a 35mm camera. ISO 800, f 5.6 @ 1/1000. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3095297size=lg
Re: New LX Owner
Congratulations Nick. I just picked up mine on Friday. I've already put a roll through it. Now I have to wait to get it developed :-). I think it's an old one with the original style shutter lock, but with 3200 film speed, S/N 5262XXX. In case you missed my previous post, here's mine: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/Friends.htm It's a pretty sweet camera. Enjoy. Dave S On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 20:58:42 -, Nick Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just received an LX I won from eBay, and just love the feel of it. I've always wanted one since it first came out, but it's always seemed too pricey. I nearly blew my term's grant cheque on one at the time, but prudence got the better of me. This one appears to be a new model as shown on Bojidar's site, with the new style shutter release, but the film speed only goes up to 1600. The meter does come on when the exposure compensation ring release button is pressed (could be a problem if it gets pressed in the camera bag as it will drain the batteries), but I'm not sure what the description of the dot pattern on the first curtain means without some comparison. The serial number is 5299XXX. Anyone got an idea of the age of this? It has some black residue on the mirror surface, but it doesn't seem to affect it. It'll be off to Pentax UK for a full service soon. I thought the automatic mettering wasn't working until I realised the reflectance of the pressure plate would be different to that of the shutter curtain or the film - duh! It does raise one question though - do all films have the same reflectance or have things changed since the camera was released so some compensation needs to be applied? No strap lugs, so I'll have to look out for these. Need to check if the AF360FGZ works with it too. Really looking forward to playing with this. Nick.
teleconverters
I am trying to figure out my kit for my London trip. I think I'm going to go with my Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 Di and a teleconverter. Now I have to figure out which teleconverter to get. BH has 2x teleconverters by the following manufacturers: Tokina Tamron Kenko Sigma (APO) The Kenko is the cheapest and the Sigma is the most expensive, but that one doesn't fit all cameras. I would appreciate any advice about which one of these is best optically. I've seen some pretty impressive results from the Tamron but none using the *istD. Thanks, Amtia
OT: Photo exhibition in OZ
To all the Aussie PDML'ers living in Sydney, I just saw a story on Sunday about Australian photographer Bill Henson. He has a retrospective exhibition showing at the Art Gallery of NSW until the 3 April. Looks like it might be interesting. Examples of his work can be found here: http://www.roslynoxley9.com.au/artists/18/Bill_Henson/profile/ Click on the exhibitions links on the left. The scans a pretty bad, but they give you an idea of his work. Dave S
PESO: A few more *istDS portaits
The 43mm is an great portrait lens now. http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~derbyc/Portaits/portraits.htm -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~derbyc
