Re: New LX Owner

2005-02-06 Thread Bob Sullivan
Nick,

Put film in it and check your long exposures.
The viewfinder exposure time is just an approximation for your amusement.
The actual exposure time is not calculated until the shutter opens.

Other thoughts on a 'new' old LX...
1)  Twiddle the ASA dial up and down several times to help scrape off
any oxidation on the dial resistor.
2)  Similarly, exercise the aperture coupling or lens aperture to get
the crud off of it too.
3)  Pentax USA has done OK repairing mine...but then you're in the UK!

Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 21:00:30 -, Nick Clark
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks to everyone for all their comments and pointers. I'm torn between 
 sendig it straight off to Pentax and putting a film through it first. I think 
 it'll probably be the latter.
 
 I tried the AF360FGZ on it last night and it appears to work, although the 
 flash exposure confirmation led doesn't blink. It does show red when the 
 flash is charged, and the flash fires at different outputs depending on 
 aperture. It won't fire if above the sync speed. Perhaps I won't need the 
 280T I won on eBay the other night.
 
 One strange thing - when indicating a long exposure in automatic mode if 
 always seems to fire at about 1/60th. The exception is when the exposure is 
 started with the lens cap on when it continues until I take the cap off. I 
 realise the reflectance of the pressure plate is difference to film, but the 
 websites indicate that the exposures should be longer, not shorter. I'll have 
 to see what it does with film.
 
 I think the fun is just beginning!
 
 Nick
 
 -Original Message-
From: cbwaters[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06/02/05 18:20:24
 
congratulations Nick.  Happy shooting.
CW
 
- Original Message -
From: Nick Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I've just received an LX I won from eBay, and just love the feel of it.
 I've always wanted one since it first came out, but it's always seemed 
 too
 pricey. I nearly blew my term's grant cheque on one at the time, but
 prudence got the better of me.

 




Re: A few PUG Comments

2005-02-06 Thread DagT
Thanks!  :-)
DagT
På 6. feb. 2005 kl. 19.08 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
No Title by Dag Thrane
This was my favorite -- went here second. Not totally sure why, speaks 
to
something in me -- some emotion. Well, I always go barefoot when I 
can. Nice
composition, nice framing, nice detail in the bridge, etc. The texture 
really
makes the legs/feet and shoes pop out.




Re: Film Hardeners

2005-02-06 Thread Graywolf
I have no idea what CP100 is. 200  400 were Forte. As you know CP sells a lot 
of odd films from here and there in the world. Hard to keep up with it. I use 
the CP200 sheet film and like it a lot, but have not tried to order any for some 
time now.

I think, but do not know for sure, that his development times are base upon his 
own experience. Others list times from Forte, the developer manufactures, or who 
knows where. The point here is he seems to actually use the stuff he sells.

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---
Mark Cassino wrote:
Over the last several months, I've dug through the archives at APUG, 
looking into both Classic Pan and the new JandC Pro 100.  But, like 
virtually any internet resource, there is mis-information sitting next 
to valid info, and telling them apart is the challenge.

I missed the discussion about Forte and Classic Pan being the same - 
I'll have to do some more searching to dig it up.  Did he offer any 
explanation as to why the developing times on his site are different - 
often very different - than the times that Forte lists for FortePan 200? 
(Of course, the times that classicpan.de list are also different from 
both of  the other sites...)

At one point in time Forte and Classic Pan were lumped together on the 
Massive developer chart -I have a printout from last May showing them 
together - but now they are separate.

Out of curiosity - have you seen any indication as to what the ultimate 
origin of the new JandC Pro 100 is?  There is a persistent rumor that it 
is rebranded old Lucky 100 film from China, but JandC has denied that in 
the APUG (without ever saying where it _does_ come from.)  I picked up a 
few dozen rolls to play around with, but have not found it to be 
anything near CP200 in terms of quality, and have had only so-so results 
with HC100, D76, and Rodinal.  I recently tried it with Microdol-X 1:3, 
and it that shows promise, though at this point I've basically relegated 
it to the Holga, Ansco, and Argus boxes.

- MCC
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www.markcassino.com
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- Original Message - From: Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: Film Hardeners

Sure they have. The guy that owns JC Photo often posts over on the 
analog photography users group apug.com. In fact it was one of his 
posts that told what was going on with Forte in Hungry.

Anyone still shooting BW film ought to drop in at apug.com and look 
about, there is more information there than you could digest in a 
month of Sundays (as they say).

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---
Mark Cassino wrote:
I don't know if this is the same film as Forte - I got it from 
JandCphoto.com, and don't think that they have ever disclosed who the 
original manufacturer is.  The response to my email from the people 
at the Classicpan.de site was that the company was insolvent and 
hoped to start production again.

I only used the 120 film, and it had no writing or imprint along the 
edge - I got the best results exposing it at ISO 100.  I often used a 
yellow/green X1 filter with it when shooting foliage, and found that 
it needed an extra bump in the exposure - a 3 stop increase as 
opposed to a 2 stop increase - with this filter. It also had rather 
poor reciprocity features, and I found that I had to start adjusting 
the exposure for times of 2 seconds or longer.

Nonetheless, I got really outstanding results developing this in 
HC110 or Rodinal.  My standard became HC 110, Dil H, 17 minutes with 
very gentle agitation every 3 minutes for the first 12, then 
agitation every 2 minutes, and once in the last minute.  When it all 
came together the level of detail and tonal range was just fabulous.  
I've experimented a bit with Tri-X and a lot with APX-100.  I can get 
close to the same results with APX 100, but never quite the same 
tonal range and shadow detail.  I suspect that the very short 
developing times for the new Tri-X and HC110 will keep me from ever 
getting the same from it - at least with HC110.

In terms of the hardener - this film tended to curl, with hardener or 
not. It was easy to scratch the emulsion when hanging it or pulling 
it out of the spool, so I went with a hardening fixer. Since it was 
all was shooting for a while, I just mixed up the fixer with the 
hardener and left it at that.

Cheers -
MCC
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Mark Cassino Photography
Kalamazoo, MI
www.markcassino.com
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- Original Message - From: Frantisek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mark Cassino pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: Film Hardeners

Saturday, February 5, 2005, 4:35:31 AM, Mark wrote:
MC Last year I really fell 

Re: Film Hardeners

2005-02-06 Thread Graywolf
Sorry, http://www.apug.org/forums/home.php
graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---
Mark Roberts wrote:
Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Sure they have. The guy that owns JC Photo often posts over on the analog 
photography users group apug.com.

apug.com appears to be the Asia Pacific Utilities Group
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Re: Day at the beach.Funny Paw

2005-02-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/2/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

It melts the stuff. In many places, it is common to sprinkle vast 
amounts of salt on the highways to keep them free of ice.

Britain. I wouldn't doubt for a minute that the Society of Motor Vehicle
Manufacturers actively promotes it.




Cheers,
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Re: Prices of Pentax Lenses

2005-02-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 11:22:27 -0700, Joseph Tainter  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

A few months after the release of the D there began to be a run on  
Pentax primes. It still continues, and I suspect that DS owners will  
soon try to join in after they decide which zoom to buy. Note that  
Pentax autofocus primes have virtually disappeared from KEH. 

Yes, I've noticed it too. I'm thinking about getting the 31mm ltd but, 
oh no, Adorama aren't listing it at the moment (nor the 77mm, and the 
43mm is on back order). :(

I had to wait a month to get the Tamron 17-35 in Pentax mount. My rep
said they were selling out as quickly as they came in. I also had to
wait to get the Sigma P-TTL flash because everyone kept selling out.
I expect that distributors, being naturally cautions and not wanting to
get stuck with stock that wouldn't sell, were ordering Pentax-compatible
product based on past sales numbers and were unprepared for the revival
of interest spurred by the ist-D and DS.

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: unsubscibe

2005-02-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/2/05, Chris Ellis, discombobulated, unleashed:

pentax-discuss-d Digest

[snipped, mercifully]

Chris, for God's sake man. Read the unsubscribing instructions HERE:

http://www.pdml.net/dbrewer/p2.html

A Brit as well! Don;t let the side down man!




Cheers,
  Cotty





Re: Day at the beach.Funny Paw

2005-02-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Cotty
Subject: Re: Day at the beach.Funny Paw


On 6/2/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
It melts the stuff. In many places, it is common to sprinkle vast
amounts of salt on the highways to keep them free of ice.
Britain. I wouldn't doubt for a minute that the Society of Motor 
Vehicle
Manufacturers actively promotes it.
Yer cars rust out really fast here, as well, and we don't use hardly 
any salt on our streets.
Not that an English car will work in our winters.

William Robb



Re: unsubscibe

2005-02-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Cotty
Subject: Re: unsubscibe


On 6/2/05, Chris Ellis, discombobulated, unleashed:
pentax-discuss-d Digest
[snipped, mercifully]
Chris, for God's sake man. Read the unsubscribing instructions 
HERE:

http://www.pdml.net/dbrewer/p2.html
A Brit as well! Don;t let the side down man!
Ah Cotty. Yer just mad because your stuck here too, and now yer gonna 
send the lad on a wild goose chase.
He's stuck for good, no amount of unsubscribng the right way will 
change it.
HAR!!

William Robb



Pentax ME SE

2005-02-06 Thread Brian Walters
G'day all

I recently picked up a nice SE (Special Edition?) version of the ME on
Ebeagh.  It's in great condition apart from an exposure meter anomaly
which I can live with for now.

As far as I was aware, the only differences between this version and
the standard ME were the brown leatherette trim , the SE engraved
on the top plate and a diagonal (rather than horizontal) split
rangefinder.  However, I've come across an advertisement in an old
magazine which claims that the SE also has manual overide of
exposure meter.  If it does, I can't find it! - unless they're
referring to the exposure compensation facility, which is hardly
unique to the SE.

Does anyone have one of these and can confirm or debunk this claim?


Cheers

Brian



Brian Walters
Western Sydney, Australia





Re: Pentax ME SE

2005-02-06 Thread Henri Toivonen
Brian Walters wrote:
G'day all
I recently picked up a nice SE (Special Edition?) version of the ME on
Ebeagh.  It's in great condition apart from an exposure meter anomaly
which I can live with for now.
As far as I was aware, the only differences between this version and
the standard ME were the brown leatherette trim , the SE engraved
on the top plate and a diagonal (rather than horizontal) split
rangefinder.  However, I've come across an advertisement in an old
magazine which claims that the SE also has manual overide of
exposure meter.  If it does, I can't find it! - unless they're
referring to the exposure compensation facility, which is hardly
unique to the SE.
Does anyone have one of these and can confirm or debunk this claim?
Cheers
Brian

Brian Walters
Western Sydney, Australia
 

Quote from http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/M/ME_Super.html:
The SE in the ME Super SE body stands for special eddition. 
However, the only known difference is that the focusing screen of the SE 
body is diagonally split, and that of the non-SE body horizontally-split.

/Henri



Re: Day at the beach.Funny Paw

2005-02-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/2/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

Not that an English car will work in our winters.

Mebbe. Mebbe not. There's only one I'd trust to work in any situation.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: unsubscibe

2005-02-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/2/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

Ah Cotty. Yer just mad because your stuck here too, and now yer gonna 
send the lad on a wild goose chase.
He's stuck for good, no amount of unsubscribng the right way will 
change it.
HAR!!

Bill it's only about 4pm your time and you're on the hard stuff already.
Boy those winters *must* be tough.




Cheers,
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Re: unsubscibe

2005-02-06 Thread Herb Chong
well, you know, the guy might have had a chance if he was able to spell 
correctly.

Herb...
- Original Message - 
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: unsubscibe


Bill it's only about 4pm your time and you're on the hard stuff already.
Boy those winters *must* be tough.



An afternoon at the Carnegie Museum

2005-02-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Went down to the Carnegie museum this afternoon to see a photography
exhibit. It's by a local photographer (but extensive worldwide traveler)
named Donald Robinson (He's not a professional photographer - he made
his fortune with a large chain of drug stores and spent his money
traveling and taking photos). On display are landscapes, wildlife photos
and portraits. This last category consists of informal portraits of
people in a variety of exotic places that he's visited over the years. 

Really good stuff for the most part, but then you don't get an exhibit
at the Carnegie by being mediocre! His African wildlife shots are
probably the weakest of his work, but I'd guess that's largely because
they looked to be the oldest, so they not only were earliest in his
career but also suffered from the limitations of his equipment and the
film emulsions of the day. Some great penguin shots from Antarctica. He
also had a large number of still life shots of orchids. Nothing
groundbreaking, but all technically excellent and beautiful. He
certainly got some very exotic species.

The vast majority of photos in his exhibit were Epson inkjet prints, by
the way. I'd guess they were done on a 2000 or 2200 because most were 12
x 18 or 13 x 19.

Some links:
http://www.timesonline.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=13834885BRD=2305PAG=461dept_id=478564rfi=6
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/entertainment/arts/s_298052.html
http://www.carnegiemnh.org/exhibits/index.html

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



RE: Pentax ME SE

2005-02-06 Thread Don Sanderson
I've seen no differences other than the color and diag.
prism in the ones I've owned.
What is your meter 'anomaly'?

Don


 -Original Message-
 From: Brian Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 4:54 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Pentax ME SE
 
 
 G'day all
 
 I recently picked up a nice SE (Special Edition?) version of the ME on
 Ebeagh.  It's in great condition apart from an exposure meter anomaly
 which I can live with for now.
 
 As far as I was aware, the only differences between this version and
 the standard ME were the brown leatherette trim , the SE engraved
 on the top plate and a diagonal (rather than horizontal) split
 rangefinder.  However, I've come across an advertisement in an old
 magazine which claims that the SE also has manual overide of
 exposure meter.  If it does, I can't find it! - unless they're
 referring to the exposure compensation facility, which is hardly
 unique to the SE.
 
 Does anyone have one of these and can confirm or debunk this claim?
 
 
 Cheers
 
 Brian
 
 
 
 Brian Walters
 Western Sydney, Australia
 
 
 



Re: A few PUG Comments

2005-02-06 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bear in mind I am not the best photographer around, only been
doing it a few 
 years, have a lot more misses than keepers, and still forget
to reset the ISO 
 and WTB on my DSLR on a regular basis.

Hi Marnie,

I guess that the misses are always more than the keepers for
everyone, so you are in good company...
:-)

 Blue Eyes and Blue Frog by Gianfranco Irlanda
 Amusing and a good portrait. I don't know why froggies are
amusing, but they 
 generally are. Nice warm skin tones (in late afternoon, I
presume) contrasted 
 with blue frog.

Thanks for the kind words!
You are right, I took it not long before sunset.

Ciao,

Gianfranco

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RE: PAW: First Robin of Spring

2005-02-06 Thread Doug Franklin
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 04:46:49 -0600, Don Sanderson wrote:

 Many can do better than this but I can't, it's quite frustrating.
 Any pointers for us movers and shakers?

Some of the techniques used by long range rifle and pistol shooters can
be quite handy.  Things like using bone-to-bone contact for
additional steadying, timing your shots with your breathing, etc.  A
quick Google search would probably turn up more and better information
than I could give in an email message.

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ




Re: PESO: Spit to Manly walk

2005-02-06 Thread Doug Franklin
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 08:00:06 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That's what I was wondering. Very little distortion in the last one. I guess 
 (whoever, sorry, forget who) was right -- if you put the horizon line through 
 the middle of the picture there is less distortion.

To be pedantic, there's not any less distortion, it's just less
noticable.  The horizon is usually one of the longest, highest contrast
lines in a photograph.  That makes it show the distortion more
obviously than other lines, most of which usually aren't straight for
any distance.  The distortion is not nearly as obvious on things that
are curved.

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ




Re: PUG's Blue Notes

2005-02-06 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
Henk Terhell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Blue eyes and blue frog: Very warm colors. Great picture. This
frog
 looks like he is having fear of heights.

:-)
Thanks a lot, Henk! For the positive words, and also for taking
the time to comment on the entire gallery. It's not an easy
task...

Ciao,

Gianfranco

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RE: PAW: First Robin of Spring

2005-02-06 Thread pnstenquist
I didn't get the message previous to this, but steady shooting is partly just a 
matter of practice. But it's also a matter of concentration and mental 
preparation. You have to psych yourself into a relaxed state of mind. When 
shooting you maintain a regular breathing pattern and shoot just after 
inahling. The hand that's cradling the lens should be suported by an elbow 
resting on your chest. The shutter release should be a gentle squeeze.
Paul


 On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 04:46:49 -0600, Don Sanderson wrote:
 
  Many can do better than this but I can't, it's quite frustrating.
  Any pointers for us movers and shakers?
 
 Some of the techniques used by long range rifle and pistol shooters can
 be quite handy.  Things like using bone-to-bone contact for
 additional steadying, timing your shots with your breathing, etc.  A
 quick Google search would probably turn up more and better information
 than I could give in an email message.
 
 TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
 
 



RE: Pentax ME SE

2005-02-06 Thread Brian Walters
Hi Don

Quoting Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I've seen no differences other than the color and diag.
 prism in the ones I've owned.
 What is your meter 'anomaly'?
 
 
  I recently picked up a nice SE (Special Edition?) version of the
 ME on
  Ebeagh.  It's in great condition apart from an exposure meter
 anomaly
  which I can live with for now.




Basically the meter reads OK when the lens is first attached but
subsequently underexposes.  

For example, if I fit the lens with its aperture set at f22 it reads
OK and continues to read OK as I move the aperture ring up to f1.7
with shutter speeds becoming faster as the lens opening is increased.
 If I then move the ring back towards f22, shutter speeds remain far
too fast.  The only way to get reasonable readings again is to take
the lens off and start again with a small aperture.





Cheers

Brian

++

Brian Walters
Western Sydney, Australia







Re: Day at the beach.Funny Paw

2005-02-06 Thread Bob W
Hi,

 Yer cars rust out really fast here, as well, and we don't use hardly
 any salt on our streets.
 Not that an English car will work in our winters.

You think your pantywaist Canadian winters are severe, huh? You ain't
never seen a British winter, mate. They're so severe our entire transport
infrastructure grinds to a halt, and everybody has to stay away from work!
It all starts early, too. As soon as the first wet leaves fall in autumn.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob



Re: Pentax ME SE

2005-02-06 Thread Brian Walters
Hi Henri

Quoting Henri Toivonen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 Quote from http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/M/ME_Super.html:
 
 The SE in the ME Super SE body stands for special eddition. 
 However, the only known difference is that the focusing screen of
 the SE 
 body is diagonally split, and that of the non-SE body
 horizontally-split.
 




Thanks for that - that's pretty much what I thought, although I've got
the SE version of the ME not the ME Super.



Cheers
Brian

+++

Brian Walters
Western Sydney, Australia





Re: NorCal PDML Outing

2005-02-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
Good to hear, John.  So far, looks like we have possibilities of four
of us.  Hopefully more people will figure out that they are near
enough to the bay area to want to come.

I have the DA 16-45 and will naturally bring it along.  Once we get a
little more solidified on who's attending, we can figure out what gear
people have/would like to see.

Hope you'll be able to attend...

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Sunday, February 6, 2005, 2:08:12 PM, you wrote:

JF Bruce Dayton mused:
 
 This is a notice for anyone in reasonable driving distance to the Bay
 area - We are going to have a PDML photo outing on March 5th.  The
 plan is to meet and shoot at one of the missions in the area.  I've
 got to get that finalized, but the date is solid.  Hopefully any of
 you near San Francisco (I'm in Sacramento) will join us for a fun day.
 
 Check your calendars and let me know if you might be able to join us.
 
 -- 
 Best regards,
 Bruce


JF That's a probable Yes from me.

JF If potential attendees would like to indicate some Pentax gear they
JF don't own, but would like to play with, it would be a good idea to
JF let other attendees know.  I know I'd like to spend a little more
JF time with a DA 16-45, and it might be fun to try the 14mm as well.
JF Plus, of course, an FA* 85/1.4; so far I've never handled one.

JF I can bring along some of my older film bodies (MX, Super Program,
JF PZ-1p), as well as the *ist-D and/or MZ-S I'd be using myself.






Re: Fuji RDP Strangeness

2005-02-06 Thread Mark Cassino
You can try sandwiching together a blank piece of C41 film and your cross 
processed film, then scanning as a color neg. The blank bit of film will 
re-introduce the brown mask of the color negative film.

Still probably won't produce very good color, though
- MCC
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- Original Message - 
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 12:27 PM
Subject: Fuji RDP Strangeness


Last night I tried scanning what I thought were some color negs, and the
results were awful.  Upon examining the strips carefully I noticed that
there was no orange mask, so I thought that the film may have been slide
film.  Tried scanning as transparency, and the results were just as bad.
Finally I read the film info in the border and discovered the film to be
Fuji RDP, which is a slide film.  However, all slide film I've ever seen
has black borders, this has clear.  And the colors are strange, with a
subtle and somewhat greenish cast over all.  I also recall getting prints
from this roll.
So, what kind of weirdness is happening.  Maybe the lab processed it as 
neg
film - cross processing?

Shel




Re: Day at the beach.Funny Paw

2005-02-06 Thread ernreed2
Quoting Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On 6/2/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Not that an English car will work in our winters.
 
 Mebbe. Mebbe not. There's only one I'd trust to work in any situation.


Do you really call a Land/Range Rover a car though?
Aren't they in a somewhat different category?
(Honest question.)

ERNR



Re: Fuji RDP Strangeness

2005-02-06 Thread Shel Belinkoff
It's not the color that's the issue, Mark, rather, the scans look grainy,
reticulated, and grungy.  However, the idea of adding an orange mask sounds
interesting  might be something to fool around with while recuperating.

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Mark Cassino

 You can try sandwiching together a blank piece of C41 film and your cross 
 processed film, then scanning as a color neg. The blank bit of film will 
 re-introduce the brown mask of the color negative film.

 Still probably won't produce very good color, though




Re: Fuji RDP Strangeness

2005-02-06 Thread Jack Davis
Mark,
May not be at all newsy, but I've had film sandwich
scans completely unusable due to Newton's Rings which
will, at times, be produced where the two films do not
meet.
In case you see concentric rings in your scanned
image, you've found Mr Newton's rings.
Good thought that the RDP may have been cross
processed.

Jack
--- Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You can try sandwiching together a blank piece of
 C41 film and your cross 
 processed film, then scanning as a color neg. The
 blank bit of film will 
 re-introduce the brown mask of the color negative
 film.
 
 Still probably won't produce very good color,
 though
 
 - MCC
 
 
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 www.markcassino.com
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 - Original Message - 
 From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 12:27 PM
 Subject: Fuji RDP Strangeness
 
 
  Last night I tried scanning what I thought were
 some color negs, and the
  results were awful.  Upon examining the strips
 carefully I noticed that
  there was no orange mask, so I thought that the
 film may have been slide
  film.  Tried scanning as transparency, and the
 results were just as bad.
  Finally I read the film info in the border and
 discovered the film to be
  Fuji RDP, which is a slide film.  However, all
 slide film I've ever seen
  has black borders, this has clear.  And the colors
 are strange, with a
  subtle and somewhat greenish cast over all.  I
 also recall getting prints
  from this roll.
 
  So, what kind of weirdness is happening.  Maybe
 the lab processed it as 
  neg
  film - cross processing?
 
 
  Shel
 
 
  
 
 





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Re: unsubscibe

2005-02-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Herb Chong
Subject: Re: unsubscibe


well, you know, the guy might have had a chance if he was able to 
spell correctly.
Jigs up.
Our work here is done.
William Robb 




Pentax Rebates

2005-02-06 Thread pnstenquist
I've been waiting for a Pentax rebate since June of 04. As most of you know, 
our favorite camera manufacturer promised a $200 rebate if one purchased the 
*istD in combinastion with the DA 16-45/4. To date, it seems that most who have 
received their rebate did so only after complaining vociferously. I haven't 
said a word yet and haven't received a single dollar. I e-mailed Pentax today. 
Let's see what happens. However, the business practices of the mother ship are 
somewhat disheartneing. I will report back.
paul


 Mark,
 May not be at all newsy, but I've had film sandwich
 scans completely unusable due to Newton's Rings which
 will, at times, be produced where the two films do not
 meet.
 In case you see concentric rings in your scanned
 image, you've found Mr Newton's rings.
 Good thought that the RDP may have been cross
 processed.
 
 Jack
 --- Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  You can try sandwiching together a blank piece of
  C41 film and your cross 
  processed film, then scanning as a color neg. The
  blank bit of film will 
  re-introduce the brown mask of the color negative
  film.
  
  Still probably won't produce very good color,
  though
  
  - MCC
  
  
  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
  Mark Cassino Photography
  Kalamazoo, MI
  www.markcassino.com
  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
  - Original Message - 
  From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
  Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 12:27 PM
  Subject: Fuji RDP Strangeness
  
  
   Last night I tried scanning what I thought were
  some color negs, and the
   results were awful.  Upon examining the strips
  carefully I noticed that
   there was no orange mask, so I thought that the
  film may have been slide
   film.  Tried scanning as transparency, and the
  results were just as bad.
   Finally I read the film info in the border and
  discovered the film to be
   Fuji RDP, which is a slide film.  However, all
  slide film I've ever seen
   has black borders, this has clear.  And the colors
  are strange, with a
   subtle and somewhat greenish cast over all.  I
  also recall getting prints
   from this roll.
  
   So, what kind of weirdness is happening.  Maybe
  the lab processed it as 
   neg
   film - cross processing?
  
  
   Shel
  
  
   
  
  
 
 
 
   
   
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Re: Fuji RDP Strangeness

2005-02-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

--- Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You can try sandwiching together a blank piece of
 C41 film and your cross processed film, then scanning as
 a color neg. The blank bit of film will re-introduce the 
 brown mask of the color negative film.
 
I've had film sandwich scans completely unusable due to Newton's 
Rings which will, at times, be produced where the two films do not
meet.

Why not scan the original and the blank negative separately and combine
them in Photoshop?

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Have you ever heard of Porst lenses?

2005-02-06 Thread Larry Cook
I have run across a 135/1.8 lens for Pentax K mount that I have never 
heard of. It is a Porst. Porst I believe is a German camera company and 
the lens was actuallt made by a Japanese company named Tomioka. Does 
anyone know anything about this Porst/Tomioka lens or about the brand in 
general?

Larry


Re: Fuji RDP Strangeness

2005-02-06 Thread pnstenquist
That won't work. You'll end up with an orange image. Scanning both as a 
negative would strip away the orange. But scanning them individuaslly and 
combining them will result in an orange image. But I doubt that either method 
will proiduce anything useful. You would still end up with whatever is on the 
fuji film, which is probably a cross-processed transparency image. I would 
suggest examining the cross-processed transparency images carefully. If there 
is nothing there of value, i would suggest relegating the film to the circular 
file.
paul


 Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 --- Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  You can try sandwiching together a blank piece of
  C41 film and your cross processed film, then scanning as
  a color neg. The blank bit of film will re-introduce the 
  brown mask of the color negative film.
  
 I've had film sandwich scans completely unusable due to Newton's 
 Rings which will, at times, be produced where the two films do not
 meet.
 
 Why not scan the original and the blank negative separately and combine
 them in Photoshop?
 
 -- 
 Mark Roberts
 Photography and writing
 www.robertstech.com
 



Re: NorCal PDML Outing

2005-02-06 Thread John Francis

In a stroke of serendipity, today's San Jose Murky News has a
feature article on the California missions.

San Juan Bautista looks quite interesting.


Bruce Dayton mused:
 
 Good to hear, John.  So far, looks like we have possibilities of four
 of us.  Hopefully more people will figure out that they are near
 enough to the bay area to want to come.
 
 I have the DA 16-45 and will naturally bring it along.  Once we get a
 little more solidified on who's attending, we can figure out what gear
 people have/would like to see.
 
 Hope you'll be able to attend...
 
 -- 
 Best regards,
 Bruce
 
 
 Sunday, February 6, 2005, 2:08:12 PM, you wrote:
 
 JF Bruce Dayton mused:
  
  This is a notice for anyone in reasonable driving distance to the Bay
  area - We are going to have a PDML photo outing on March 5th.  The
  plan is to meet and shoot at one of the missions in the area.  I've
  got to get that finalized, but the date is solid.  Hopefully any of
  you near San Francisco (I'm in Sacramento) will join us for a fun day.
  
  Check your calendars and let me know if you might be able to join us.
  
  -- 
  Best regards,
  Bruce
 
 
 JF That's a probable Yes from me.
 
 JF If potential attendees would like to indicate some Pentax gear they
 JF don't own, but would like to play with, it would be a good idea to
 JF let other attendees know.  I know I'd like to spend a little more
 JF time with a DA 16-45, and it might be fun to try the 14mm as well.
 JF Plus, of course, an FA* 85/1.4; so far I've never handled one.
 
 JF I can bring along some of my older film bodies (MX, Super Program,
 JF PZ-1p), as well as the *ist-D and/or MZ-S I'd be using myself.
 
 
 
 



Re: Pentax ME SE

2005-02-06 Thread Bob Sullivan
Brian,
How is the coupling between the lens and camera body?  Look for a
little metal bar just inside of the lens mount.  It should move
circularly around the inside of the lens mount.  Sounds like it is
slipping off of the lens aperture lever.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun,  6 Feb 2005 18:01:00 -0600, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Don
 
 Quoting Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  I've seen no differences other than the color and diag.
  prism in the ones I've owned.
  What is your meter 'anomaly'?
 
 
   I recently picked up a nice SE (Special Edition?) version of the
  ME on
   Ebeagh.  It's in great condition apart from an exposure meter
  anomaly
   which I can live with for now.
 
 Basically the meter reads OK when the lens is first attached but
 subsequently underexposes.
 
 For example, if I fit the lens with its aperture set at f22 it reads
 OK and continues to read OK as I move the aperture ring up to f1.7
 with shutter speeds becoming faster as the lens opening is increased.
 If I then move the ring back towards f22, shutter speeds remain far
 too fast.  The only way to get reasonable readings again is to take
 the lens off and start again with a small aperture.
 
 Cheers
 
 Brian
 
 ++
 
 Brian Walters
 Western Sydney, Australia
 




Re: Pentax Rebates

2005-02-06 Thread Greg Lovern
 Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 01:24:33 +
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Pentax Rebates

 I've been waiting for a Pentax rebate since June of 04. As most of you
 know, our favorite camera manufacturer promised a $200 rebate if one
 purchased the *istD in combinastion with the DA 16-45/4. To date, it seems
 that most who have received their rebate did so only after complaining
 vociferously. I haven't said a word yet and haven't received a single
 dollar. I e-mailed Pentax today. Let's see what happens. However, the
 business practices of the mother ship are somewhat disheartneing. I will
 report back.
 paul


Mine took about 2 1/2 months or a little less. No contact from me to them
after sending in for the rebate. That was a bit earlier than yours; I
recieved the kit at the end of March '04, and probably sent in for the
rebate in early April. My records show that I deposited the check on June
17th, so I probably recieved it a few days or a week before that.

In addition to email, you might want to write a snail-mail letter to the
address shown on the back of the *ist D manual.


Good Luck,

Greg




K85/1.8 -- US$570.00??

2005-02-06 Thread Greg Lovern
A K85/1.8 just sold on eBay for US$570.00. Does it usually sell for that
much?? If so, I guess I'll forget about ever having one...

Greg



RE: Pentax ME SE

2005-02-06 Thread Don Sanderson
Howdy Brian, if you take the lens off and face the front of
the camera:
At about the 1 o'clock position, inside the lens mount ring,
is a lever that comes flush with the surface of the lens
mount ring.
Rotate this lever clockwise (push down) with a fingernail
until it is fully down/clockwise.
Release the lever, it should quickly and freely return to
the CCW position.
This is the linkage that tells the camera where the lens
is set. (F-Stop)
Three things can happen, most common is the lubrication on
the lever getting gummy and slowing it's return.
It is also possible the lever is bent and rubbing on the
lens mount ring or the back of the lens, look for bright
marks, dead givaway.
Third is that the resistor that this lever moves is dirty,
this is unlikely give your description of the symptoms.

Hope This Helps
Don



 -Original Message-
 From: Brian Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 6:01 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: Pentax ME SE
 
 
 Hi Don
 
 Quoting Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  I've seen no differences other than the color and diag.
  prism in the ones I've owned.
  What is your meter 'anomaly'?
  
  
   I recently picked up a nice SE (Special Edition?) version of the
  ME on
   Ebeagh.  It's in great condition apart from an exposure meter
  anomaly
   which I can live with for now.
 
 
 
 
 Basically the meter reads OK when the lens is first attached but
 subsequently underexposes.  
 
 For example, if I fit the lens with its aperture set at f22 it reads
 OK and continues to read OK as I move the aperture ring up to f1.7
 with shutter speeds becoming faster as the lens opening is increased.
  If I then move the ring back towards f22, shutter speeds remain far
 too fast.  The only way to get reasonable readings again is to take
 the lens off and start again with a small aperture.
 
 
 
 
 
 Cheers
 
 Brian
 
 ++
 
 Brian Walters
 Western Sydney, Australia
 
 
 
 
 



Re: K85/1.8 -- US$570.00??

2005-02-06 Thread pnstenquist
The K 85/1.8 was selling for $350 to $400 a short time ago, but this is the new 
age of Pentax. Digital has boosted the value of lenses, for better or worse. 
I'd say better in terms of the health of the brand. I'm not surprised that the 
K 85/1.8 brings 5C plus. Look at the other numbers we've seen lately. 
Paul


 A K85/1.8 just sold on eBay for US$570.00. Does it usually sell for that
 much?? If so, I guess I'll forget about ever having one...
 
 Greg
 



Re: Pentax Rebates

2005-02-06 Thread Steve Pearson
I got mine in a reasonable amount of time, maybe 4-5
weeks.  I would still call them to make sure it is in
process.


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've been waiting for a Pentax rebate since June of
 04. As most of you know, our favorite camera
 manufacturer promised a $200 rebate if one purchased
 the *istD in combinastion with the DA 16-45/4. To
 date, it seems that most who have received their
 rebate did so only after complaining vociferously. I
 haven't said a word yet and haven't received a
 single dollar. I e-mailed Pentax today. Let's see
 what happens. However, the business practices of the
 mother ship are somewhat disheartneing. I will
 report back.
 paul
 
 
  Mark,
  May not be at all newsy, but I've had film
 sandwich
  scans completely unusable due to Newton's Rings
 which
  will, at times, be produced where the two films do
 not
  meet.
  In case you see concentric rings in your scanned
  image, you've found Mr Newton's rings.
  Good thought that the RDP may have been cross
  processed.
  
  Jack
  --- Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   You can try sandwiching together a blank piece
 of
   C41 film and your cross 
   processed film, then scanning as a color neg.
 The
   blank bit of film will 
   re-introduce the brown mask of the color
 negative
   film.
   
   Still probably won't produce very good color,
   though
   
   - MCC
   
   
   - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
   Mark Cassino Photography
   Kalamazoo, MI
   www.markcassino.com
   - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
   - Original Message - 
   From: Shel Belinkoff
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
   Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 12:27 PM
   Subject: Fuji RDP Strangeness
   
   
Last night I tried scanning what I thought
 were
   some color negs, and the
results were awful.  Upon examining the strips
   carefully I noticed that
there was no orange mask, so I thought that
 the
   film may have been slide
film.  Tried scanning as transparency, and the
   results were just as bad.
Finally I read the film info in the border and
   discovered the film to be
Fuji RDP, which is a slide film.  However, all
   slide film I've ever seen
has black borders, this has clear.  And the
 colors
   are strange, with a
subtle and somewhat greenish cast over all.  I
   also recall getting prints
from this roll.
   
So, what kind of weirdness is happening. 
 Maybe
   the lab processed it as 
neg
film - cross processing?
   
   
Shel
   
   

   
   
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: K85/1.8 -- US$570.00??

2005-02-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Greg Lovern
Subject: K85/1.8 -- US$570.00??


A K85/1.8 just sold on eBay for US$570.00. Does it usually sell for 
that
much?? If so, I guess I'll forget about ever having one...
I was baffled by that one.
Was watching an FA85/1.4 that went for not much more than that, and 
surprisingly close to new at BH price.

William Robb 




Re: Fuji RDP Strangeness

2005-02-06 Thread Mark Cassino
The orange mask of the blank C41 strip would let the scanner do the 
automatic reversal / color conversion.  I suppose you could scan them 
separately and then combine the images, assuming you have a filter to invert 
C41 (taking into account the orange mask.)

- MCC
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Mark Cassino Photography
Kalamazoo, MI
www.markcassino.com
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- Original Message - 
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: Fuji RDP Strangeness


Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can try sandwiching together a blank piece of
C41 film and your cross processed film, then scanning as
a color neg. The blank bit of film will re-introduce the
brown mask of the color negative film.
I've had film sandwich scans completely unusable due to Newton's
Rings which will, at times, be produced where the two films do not
meet.
Why not scan the original and the blank negative separately and combine
them in Photoshop?
--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com




Mail-Archive.com

2005-02-06 Thread Joseph Tainter
The archive seems to have caught up to posts of this morning. That is good.
It had been working very well for the past few months, so naturally Jeff 
and Jeff had to fix it. I think they do Mail-Archive for a hobby, and 
can't resist playing with it from time to time. Just like photographers 
with all-automatic cameras, who can't resist playing with manual settings.

Anyway, it is good to have it back.
Joe


Re: K85/1.8 -- US$570.00??

2005-02-06 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I'm of mixed feeling about the rising prices.  For those of us who have the
lenses, our investment in Pentax glass is more secure.  Of course, those
looking for the lenses will have to put up with the higher prices, just
like some of us did a few years ago.  IIRC, the seller of my K85/1.8 wanted
$650.00 for it, and I did buy a sample that needed repair for $375.00. Many
Pentax primes were always expensive on the used market.

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 A lot of used Pentax lenses seem to be selling for new prices.




Re: Fuji RDP Strangeness

2005-02-06 Thread Jack Davis
Mark, 
Separate frame scanning and Photoshop was my solution.

Jack
--- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 --- Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  You can try sandwiching together a blank piece of
  C41 film and your cross processed film, then
 scanning as
  a color neg. The blank bit of film will
 re-introduce the 
  brown mask of the color negative film.
  
 I've had film sandwich scans completely unusable
 due to Newton's 
 Rings which will, at times, be produced where the
 two films do not
 meet.
 
 Why not scan the original and the blank negative
 separately and combine
 them in Photoshop?
 
 -- 
 Mark Roberts
 Photography and writing
 www.robertstech.com
 
 




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Re: NorCal PDML Outing

2005-02-06 Thread Pat K
From previous trips to California missions, there is usually an indoor and
outdoor component.  You can experience some of the interior ornateness within
the chapel buildings or explore the gardens (in various stages of bloom) out
back. So, it could be both an indoor and outdoor experience.

Pat in SF

==
Bruce Dayton wrote:
Hello Shel,

Love to have you come.  You didn't miss any messages.  Since Mark
Dalal moved, I have somehow become the organizer of the event.  So the
date was picked based on my ability to go.  I don't have any other
openings until about June.  As to shooting missions, Marnie and I have
been kicking around different ideas for a while and she brought this
one up.  Seemed like a great idea and a departure from a more
outdoors/nature venue.  I still have to look them up and see what
looks best around the area - I believe there are several to choose
from.  I'll try to check into the missions today and post my findings.




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Re: NorCal PDML Outing

2005-02-06 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Boy, I'm glad that Pat quoted your message, Bruce.  I never saw it and was
beginning to think my message may not have gotten to the list or to you.

I think I'm going to start copying the senders of some messages  

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Pat K 
 Bruce Dayton wrote:
 Hello Shel,

 Love to have you come.  You didn't miss any messages.  Since Mark
 Dalal moved, I have somehow become the organizer of the event.  So the
 date was picked based on my ability to go.  I don't have any other
 openings until about June.  As to shooting missions, Marnie and I have
 been kicking around different ideas for a while and she brought this
 one up.  Seemed like a great idea and a departure from a more
 outdoors/nature venue.  I still have to look them up and see what
 looks best around the area - I believe there are several to choose
 from.  I'll try to check into the missions today and post my findings.




Re: Fuji RDP Strangeness

2005-02-06 Thread Mark Cassino
The few times this happened to me, I never was able to get good colors.
Ironically, the one time I deliberately tried cross processing I used a roll 
of Tungsten balanced slide film and processed it as a color negative - and 
it came out looking more or less like a regular negative...  I guess the 
blue bias to the film came out as a yellowish negative...

Good luck -
MCC
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Mark Cassino Photography
Kalamazoo, MI
www.markcassino.com
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- Original Message - 
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: Fuji RDP Strangeness


It's not the color that's the issue, Mark, rather, the scans look grainy,
reticulated, and grungy.  However, the idea of adding an orange mask 
sounds
interesting  might be something to fool around with while 
recuperating.

Shel

[Original Message]
From: Mark Cassino

You can try sandwiching together a blank piece of C41 film and your cross
processed film, then scanning as a color neg. The blank bit of film will
re-introduce the brown mask of the color negative film.
Still probably won't produce very good color, though





With Another Couple of PESOs...

2005-02-06 Thread Joseph Tainter
With another couple of PESOs I could:
--finally buy the FA 600 f4; or
--post another couple of URLs to PDML. Which should I do?
The FA 600 can wait a while longer. Here's the URLs:
http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/3528/display/2556108
http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/3528/display/2556110
Comments welcome of course. I get little chance for this kind of 
photography, but this year in early December these cranes were gleaning 
in a field very near my home.

Joe


Re: Have you ever heard of Porst lenses?

2005-02-06 Thread Brian Walters
G'day Larry

Quoting Larry Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I have run across a 135/1.8 lens for Pentax K mount that I have
 never 
 heard of. It is a Porst. Porst I believe is a German camera company
 and 
 the lens was actuallt made by a Japanese company named Tomioka.
 Does 
 anyone know anything about this Porst/Tomioka lens or about the
 brand in 
 general?


Don't know anything about the particular lens but as far as I know
Porst is a company which rebadges equipment with its own name.  

Apparently some Fujica and Praktica models were rebadged in this way
in the 1950s - 1970s.  No doubt German list members will know more
about the company.


Cheers

Brian

+++

Brian Walters
Western Sydney Australia





Re: K85/1.8 -- US$570.00??

2005-02-06 Thread pnstenquist
A lot of used Pentax lenses seem to be selling for new prices. i just noticed a 
DA 16-45 that's only a bid away from exceeding the new price. The new lenses 
are scarce, the demand for Pentax glass is high. I'm a bit surprised, but I 
can't say that I'm displeased. It will be interesting to see what some other 
examples of Pentax glass go for. Is an FA or A 400/5.6 going to appreciate to 
where it approaches new lens prices? (That's $1400 for the A variant.)  Only 
time will tell.
Paul


 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Greg Lovern
 Subject: K85/1.8 -- US$570.00??
 
 
 A K85/1.8 just sold on eBay for US$570.00. Does it usually sell for 
 that
  much?? If so, I guess I'll forget about ever having one...
 
 I was baffled by that one.
 Was watching an FA85/1.4 that went for not much more than that, and 
 surprisingly close to new at BH price.
 
 William Robb 
 
 



Re: NorCal PDML Outing

2005-02-06 Thread Pat K
Glad to be of service, Shel! It's a bit frustrating when both Mail Archive and
the real-time list are being dodgy.

Pat in SF

--- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Boy, I'm glad that Pat quoted your message, Bruce.  I never saw it and was
 beginning to think my message may not have gotten to the list or to you.
 
 I think I'm going to start copying the senders of some messages  
 
 Shel 
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: Pat K 
  Bruce Dayton wrote:
  Hello Shel,
 
  Love to have you come.  You didn't miss any messages.  Since Mark
  Dalal moved, I have somehow become the organizer of the event.  So the
  date was picked based on my ability to go.  I don't have any other
  openings until about June.  As to shooting missions, Marnie and I have
  been kicking around different ideas for a while and she brought this
  one up.  Seemed like a great idea and a departure from a more
  outdoors/nature venue.  I still have to look them up and see what
  looks best around the area - I believe there are several to choose
  from.  I'll try to check into the missions today and post my findings.
 
 
 




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Re: NorCal PDML Outing

2005-02-06 Thread Pat K
Input from a lurker who follows on the Mail Archive (which hasn't been working
well all week and so I may be missing messages). I have been to both Mission
Delores in San Francisco and the mission in Carmel and had productive
photographic days. I would enjoy meeting other PDML folk. Please count me in.

Pat in SF


Bruce Dayton wrote:
This is a notice for anyone in reasonable driving distance to the Bay
area - We are going to have a PDML photo outing on March 5th.  The
plan is to meet and shoot at one of the missions in the area.  I've
got to get that finalized, but the date is solid.  Hopefully any of
you near San Francisco (I'm in Sacramento) will join us for a fun day.

Check your calendars and let me know if you might be able to join us.


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Re: PENTAX PHOTO Browser + Laboratory update

2005-02-06 Thread John Coyle
Rob, I still have copies of the downloads from Pentax (PBLUD011.exe and 
PPHLAB01.exe) totalling 5.9MB if you still need them.
Just let me know.

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
- Original Message - 
From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 3:46 AM
Subject: RE: PENTAX PHOTO Browser + Laboratory update


Does anyone have an emailable/downloadable copy of the original software
anywhere easy?
I do have mine but I will have to wade through piles of junk in the loft
to find it - I didn't install it when I replaced my PC because it was so
poor compared to Photoshop CS, but I want to have a look at the new one.
I don't know why they don't just put proper installs in the web - its
not like anyone in their right mind would steal the software if they
didn't have a Pentax digicam is it?
Much appreciated if anyone can help...
Rob
-Original Message-
From: David Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 February 2005 06:40
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: PENTAX PHOTO Browser + Laboratory update
Hi Gang,
Just to let you know, Pentax has come good and added an update so that
*ist D users can use the new versions (2.1) of PENTAX PHOTO Browser and
PENTAX PHOTO Laboratory. I think that *ist DS users (with version 2.0)
should update too. Here is the link (down the bottom):
http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/support/download_digital.html
Haven't looked at the Lab yet, but have used the browser briefly and it
feels pretty good (faster?). Seems more professional anyway.
Now we only have to wait for the *ist D firmware version 2.0 (-:
Cheers,
David
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Re: Pentax ME SE

2005-02-06 Thread Peter J. Alling
Exposure compensation, that's the ticket.
Brian Walters wrote:
G'day all
I recently picked up a nice SE (Special Edition?) version of the ME on
Ebeagh.  It's in great condition apart from an exposure meter anomaly
which I can live with for now.
As far as I was aware, the only differences between this version and
the standard ME were the brown leatherette trim , the SE engraved
on the top plate and a diagonal (rather than horizontal) split
rangefinder.  However, I've come across an advertisement in an old
magazine which claims that the SE also has manual overide of
exposure meter.  If it does, I can't find it! - unless they're
referring to the exposure compensation facility, which is hardly
unique to the SE.
Does anyone have one of these and can confirm or debunk this claim?
Cheers
Brian

Brian Walters
Western Sydney, Australia

 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: K85/1.8 -- US$570.00??

2005-02-06 Thread Peter J. Alling
Ebay is unpredictable, $570.00 is the highest I've ever seen one of them 
go for but I've also been surprised
when they've gone for a lot less.

Greg Lovern wrote:
A K85/1.8 just sold on eBay for US$570.00. Does it usually sell for that
much?? If so, I guess I'll forget about ever having one...
Greg
 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: With Another Couple of PESOs...

2005-02-06 Thread Peter J. Alling
Very, nice the shot in the air is spectacular, but the one on the ground 
has personality.

Joseph Tainter wrote:
With another couple of PESOs I could:
--finally buy the FA 600 f4; or
--post another couple of URLs to PDML. Which should I do?
The FA 600 can wait a while longer. Here's the URLs:
http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/3528/display/2556108
http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/3528/display/2556110
Comments welcome of course. I get little chance for this kind of 
photography, but this year in early December these cranes were 
gleaning in a field very near my home.

Joe


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: Photo exhibition in OZ

2005-02-06 Thread John Coyle
For Brisbanites, there is an exhibition of work by Tim Page currently 
showing.  At the Powerhouse, I think.

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
- Original Message - 
From: Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax Discuss pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 5:36 AM
Subject: OT: Photo exhibition in OZ


David wrote:
To all the Aussie PDML'ers living in Sydney, I just saw a story on
Sunday about Australian photographer Bill Henson. He has a
retrospective exhibition showing at the Art Gallery of NSW until the 3
April. Looks like it might be interesting.
Examples of his work can be found here:
http://www.roslynoxley9.com.au/artists/18/Bill_Henson/profile/
Click on the exhibitions links on the left. The scans a pretty bad,
but they give you an idea of his work.
Dave S
It is an amazing exhibition, IMOH. Nine rooms filled to the brim. The 
French Opera series was outstanding.

Nothing beats looking at silver prints in real life, especially for 
Henson's work. Subtle lighting effects and tones just get lost when 
reprinted on screen, or even on the weighty $85 book that accompanies the 
exhibition. The impact of scale probably has something to do with it too.

D
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Re: PESO - Waning Light

2005-02-06 Thread Gonz
Gorgeous.  You need to blow that up and put it in a large atrium or 
other large open area for people to enjoy.

rg
Bruce Dayton wrote:
It's been a while since I last posted one.  I've been quite busy with
work - not too busy to take some pictures, but haven't had time to get
any posted.
Today as the sun was setting, I stepped outside my home office and saw
this sight.  Went right back in and got the camera.
Taken with *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6 AF (newly acquired), set on a
stone wall for support.
The image was converted in C1 and about 10% color saturation added -
no other changes other than sizing/sharpening for the web.
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_1083.htm




Re: NorCal PDML Outing

2005-02-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/6/2005 7:46:14 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I would enjoy meeting other PDML folk. Please count me in.

Pat in SF
==
Kewl.

Marnie aka Doe :-)



Re: NorCal PDML Outing

2005-02-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
I have been there once several years ago.  Didn't get to do much
photography - had the family in tow as we were visiting to help our
daughter with her report.

What I liked about it was that there is a big square out front and it
is still an active mission - church services are held.  From my
understanding, it has the biggest chapel out of all the missions.  It
also has an inner courtyard with gardens and such.  It seems like
there would be some good opportunities there.

This is the mission that I am leaning towards.

Anybody have other thoughts?


-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Sunday, February 6, 2005, 6:06:53 PM, you wrote:


JF In a stroke of serendipity, today's San Jose Murky News has a
JF feature article on the California missions.

JF San Juan Bautista looks quite interesting.


JF Bruce Dayton mused:
 
 Good to hear, John.  So far, looks like we have possibilities of four
 of us.  Hopefully more people will figure out that they are near
 enough to the bay area to want to come.
 
 I have the DA 16-45 and will naturally bring it along.  Once we get a
 little more solidified on who's attending, we can figure out what gear
 people have/would like to see.
 
 Hope you'll be able to attend...
 
 -- 
 Best regards,
 Bruce
 
 
 Sunday, February 6, 2005, 2:08:12 PM, you wrote:
 
 JF Bruce Dayton mused:
  
  This is a notice for anyone in reasonable driving distance to the Bay
  area - We are going to have a PDML photo outing on March 5th.  The
  plan is to meet and shoot at one of the missions in the area.  I've
  got to get that finalized, but the date is solid.  Hopefully any of
  you near San Francisco (I'm in Sacramento) will join us for a fun day.
  
  Check your calendars and let me know if you might be able to join us.
  
  -- 
  Best regards,
  Bruce
 
 
 JF That's a probable Yes from me.
 
 JF If potential attendees would like to indicate some Pentax gear they
 JF don't own, but would like to play with, it would be a good idea to
 JF let other attendees know.  I know I'd like to spend a little more
 JF time with a DA 16-45, and it might be fun to try the 14mm as well.
 JF Plus, of course, an FA* 85/1.4; so far I've never handled one.
 
 JF I can bring along some of my older film bodies (MX, Super Program,
 JF PZ-1p), as well as the *ist-D and/or MZ-S I'd be using myself.
 
 
 
 






Re: NorCal PDML Outing

2005-02-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Pat,

Glad to have you come.  I know that we have missed you in the past due
to schedules, so this should be fun!  I'll try to keep everyone posted
as to details as they are nailed down.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Sunday, February 6, 2005, 7:44:16 PM, you wrote:

PK Input from a lurker who follows on the Mail Archive (which hasn't been 
working
PK well all week and so I may be missing messages). I have been to both Mission
PK Delores in San Francisco and the mission in Carmel and had productive
PK photographic days. I would enjoy meeting other PDML folk. Please count me 
in.

PK Pat in SF

PK 
PK Bruce Dayton wrote:
PK This is a notice for anyone in reasonable driving distance to the Bay
PK area - We are going to have a PDML photo outing on March 5th.  The
PK plan is to meet and shoot at one of the missions in the area. I've
PK got to get that finalized, but the date is solid.  Hopefully any of
PK you near San Francisco (I'm in Sacramento) will join us for a fun day.

PK Check your calendars and let me know if you might be able to join us.


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Re: NorCal PDML Outing

2005-02-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/6/2005 10:13:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have been there once several years ago.  Didn't get to do much
photography - had the family in tow as we were visiting to help our
daughter with her report.

What I liked about it was that there is a big square out front and it
is still an active mission - church services are held.  From my
understanding, it has the biggest chapel out of all the missions.  It
also has an inner courtyard with gardens and such.  It seems like
there would be some good opportunities there.

This is the mission that I am leaning towards.

Anybody have other thoughts?


-- 
Best regards,
Bruce

Probably too far for me to drive, because I seem to have developed sciatica 
or something. Don't really want to drive for over two hours. It takes me 1 hour 
15 minutes about to get to the top of San Jose. So I have a sneaking 
suspicion it would take over two hours for me to drive to San Juan Bautista. 
Even two 
hours would be pushing it for me.

Actually, the only mission I remember is San Juan Bautista. I've never seen 
the San Jose Mission, so can't speak for it, or Mission Delores, or any of the 
others, as matter of fact.

Or maybe someone can give me a lift to whatever the consensus is. Over two 
hours of driving and I will have to bow out.

Marnie aka Doe 



Re: New LX Owner

2005-02-06 Thread mike wilson
Bob Sullivan wrote:
Nick,
Put film in it and check your long exposures.
The viewfinder exposure time is just an approximation for your amusement.
The actual exposure time is not calculated until the shutter opens.
Other thoughts on a 'new' old LX...
1)  Twiddle the ASA dial up and down several times to help scrape off
any oxidation on the dial resistor.
2)  Similarly, exercise the aperture coupling or lens aperture to get
the crud off of it too.
3)  Pentax USA has done OK repairing mine...but then you're in the UK!
Not to get all defensive 8-) but Pentax UK has done fine for me.  One 
word of caution - they seem to be keeping stocks of some parts for 
themselves.  Taking mine into a local guy for some minor work, he 
informed me that the part needed was unobtainable.  Later, a complete 
CLA from Pentax UK included the part.

mike


Re: Have you ever heard of Porst lenses?

2005-02-06 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 08:44:44PM -0500, Larry Cook wrote..
 I have run across a 135/1.8 lens for Pentax K mount that I have never 
 heard of. It is a Porst. Porst I believe is a German camera company and 
 the lens was actuallt made by a Japanese company named Tomioka. Does 
 anyone know anything about this Porst/Tomioka lens or about the brand in 
 general?

Porst is indeed a German company.  To the best of my knowledge they
never had manufacturing capability, rather they sold OEM-ed stuff under
their own name.  Most likely different OEMs as well.

Around here (the Netherlands) the Porst stuff does not fetch any real
money at used-camera markets. For what that means..

Wilko



Re: Day at the beach.Funny Paw

2005-02-06 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 12:06:57AM +, Bob W wrote..
 Hi,
 
  Yer cars rust out really fast here, as well, and we don't use hardly
  any salt on our streets.
  Not that an English car will work in our winters.
 
 You think your pantywaist Canadian winters are severe, huh? You ain't
 never seen a British winter, mate. They're so severe our entire transport
 infrastructure grinds to a halt, and everybody has to stay away from work!
 It all starts early, too. As soon as the first wet leaves fall in autumn.

The wrong kind of leaves that is..

:-P

W/



Re: New LX Owner

2005-02-06 Thread Nick Clark
Thanks to everyone for all their comments and pointers. I'm torn between sendig 
it straight off to Pentax and putting a film through it first. I think it'll 
probably be the latter.

I tried the AF360FGZ on it last night and it appears to work, although the 
flash exposure confirmation led doesn't blink. It does show red when the flash 
is charged, and the flash fires at different outputs depending on aperture. It 
won't fire if above the sync speed. Perhaps I won't need the 280T I won on eBay 
the other night.

One strange thing - when indicating a long exposure in automatic mode if always 
seems to fire at about 1/60th. The exception is when the exposure is started 
with the lens cap on when it continues until I take the cap off. I realise the 
reflectance of the pressure plate is difference to film, but the websites 
indicate that the exposures should be longer, not shorter. I'll have to see 
what it does with film.

I think the fun is just beginning!

Nick

-Original Message-
From: cbwaters[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06/02/05 18:20:24
   
congratulations Nick.  Happy shooting.
CW

- Original Message - 
From: Nick Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I've just received an LX I won from eBay, and just love the feel of it. 
 I've always wanted one since it first came out, but it's always seemed 
too 
 pricey. I nearly blew my term's grant cheque on one at the time, but 
 prudence got the better of me.




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