Re: PAW PESO - Waiting for Ketchup
Love the Leica. Jim A. From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 22:05:50 -0700 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PAW PESO - Waiting for Ketchup Resent-From: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 01:05:48 -0400 I was doing some file maintenance this evening when I rediscovered these pics. I don't believe they've been posted here before. Comments welcome ... http://home.earthlink.net/~sbelinkoff/waiting.html Shel
colour problems with ist D in combination with studio lights
Recently I have been shooting sports teams and high school balls with studio lights and my ist D. The skin tones are far too yellow. This doen't happen under sunlight or with a metz flash. The lab suggests setting the contrast and saturation to the lowest levels on the menu. Any experiences or suggestions. Cheers colin
Re: FA*24/2.0
Godfrey wrote: LOL ... I don't know, John. I'm just shy of 51 years old and bench press 250lbs easily. ;-) I hate carrying excessively large and heavy gear. Has nothing to do with strength or age. Godfrey WoW!!! That's really, really impressive, Godfrey!!! 250 lbs. of anything, especially a pressed bench (whatever that is), is something I'm sure I could never pull off, oops, I mean press on/off (?). Whenever I'm in San Francisco and need to go to the rougher parts of town that has benches I'll definitely remember to ask you to escort me. As for large and heavy gear and the issue of age - fortunately and unfortunately, respectively - well, that's another story - I LOVE to pack LOTS of Pentax gear (Be prepared, my scout leader said.) up steep mountains, into rugged canyons, and across desert dunes, and sometimes through urban developments; alas, as to age, Ill up you by over close to 20 years (enuff said about that). I enjoy and value your savory input to the List - thank you very much for contributing your thoughts and experiences and photographs!
Re: FA*24/2.0
LOL On 8/21/05, John Munro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Godfrey wrote: LOL ... I don't know, John. I'm just shy of 51 years old and bench press 250lbs easily. ;-) I hate carrying excessively large and heavy gear. Has nothing to do with strength or age. Godfrey WoW!!! That's really, really impressive, Godfrey!!! 250 lbs. of anything, especially a pressed bench (whatever that is), is something I'm sure I could never pull off, oops, I mean press on/off (?). Whenever I'm in San Francisco and need to go to the rougher parts of town that has benches I'll definitely remember to ask you to escort me. As for large and heavy gear and the issue of age - fortunately and unfortunately, respectively - well, that's another story - I LOVE to pack LOTS of Pentax gear (Be prepared, my scout leader said.) up steep mountains, into rugged canyons, and across desert dunes, and sometimes through urban developments; alas, as to age, Ill up you by over close to 20 years (enuff said about that). I enjoy and value your savory input to the List - thank you very much for contributing your thoughts and experiences and photographs!
RE: colour problems with ist D in combination with studio lights
It's (almost) allways a good idea to keep contrast and sharpness settings low - otherwise you simplyloose data. Secondly: Did you forget to maunally set WB to match the studio light? Measure the colour temperature (WB) off a pure white board to set the WB according to the studio light used. This way I'm sure you'll get the colour right. Regards Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Colin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 21. august 2005 08:14 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: colour problems with ist D in combination with studio lights Recently I have been shooting sports teams and high school balls with studio lights and my ist D. The skin tones are far too yellow. This doen't happen under sunlight or with a metz flash. The lab suggests setting the contrast and saturation to the lowest levels on the menu. Any experiences or suggestions. Cheers colin
RE: colour problems with ist D in combination with studio lights
Look in the manual page 142. If you don't have a maunal, download this from www.pentaxusa.com or let me know. It's (almost) allways a good idea to keep contrast and sharpness settings low - otherwise you simplyloose data. Secondly: Did you forget to maunally set WB to match the studio light? Measure the colour temperature (WB) off a pure white board to set the WB according to the studio light used. This way I'm sure you'll get the colour right. Regards Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Colin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 21. august 2005 08:14 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: colour problems with ist D in combination with studio lights Recently I have been shooting sports teams and high school balls with studio lights and my ist D. The skin tones are far too yellow. This doen't happen under sunlight or with a metz flash. The lab suggests setting the contrast and saturation to the lowest levels on the menu. Any experiences or suggestions. Cheers colin
Re: The Photographer's Rights
This one time, at band camp, E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And by the way, I remember that there were conflicts in Afghanistan, Angola, Mozambique and Central America in that time frame, but for the life of me I can't remember any sort of wars in the Caribbean during the Carter administration. ERNR Nicaragua is the first to come to mind, although this maybe what you call Central America, others see its eastern aspect is on the Carribean Sea. Others that come readily to mind are Grenada, and the on-going problems in Cuba. However, you are taxing the limits of my American history, although I seem to do better than Australian history. So, I thank you for your response as it is an interesting topic but a little to one side for this list. In fact, the whole J Carter story interests me in odd ways. Nice to see a little political debat not ending in a slanging match :) Kind regards Kevin -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
Re: Silver lenses on black bodies
On 21/8/05, Andre Langevin, discombobulated, unleashed: I find the combo black MZ-S or IST D body with silver Limited lenses great. Am I the only one? I recently spied John Forbes in London such a combo. Certainly makes you look twice. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: A couple of PESOs
On 20/8/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: Anyway, a couple of my less embarrasing atempts with the big gun are here http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/wingedrats1.html http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/wingedrats2.html I like the second one - that heat-haze is interesting. Nice rat-formation ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO - Politics
Ha... What I saw, given the title, was of course--in the US, the 'left' is so bent to the right that the title makes sense. Clever title and nice picture, either way. j On 8/21/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton Subject: PESO - Politics Pentax *istD, K 200/2.5, Handheld ISO 200, 1/750 sec @ f/4 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2171.htm Comments welcome I see the Left and Right, Conservative and Liberal, Republican and Democrat looking towards what they percieve as the one true way of thinking. Seperate, yet attached, is either correct? I see the dreams of the future reflected in the unformed buds, the children, so to speak, not knowing which way to turn, abandoned. Will they go left? Or right? Does it matter? Nice shot. Thanks for sharing it. William Robb -- Juan Buhler http://www.jbuhler.com photoblog at http://photoblog.jbuhler.com
Re: Tokina AT-X 287 AF PRO SV 28-70mm f/2.8D
IR Again, I am not sure how the new lens is compared to the old one, IR and what is the difference between the 28-70/2.8 and 28-80/2.8, IR i.e. which one is the continuation of the 28-70/2.6-2.8 design, if any. IR I was curious about that myself. See the archives! This is a recuperant theme, and was discussed few months ago quite a lot. Just shortly, 28-70/2.6-2.8 ATX 28-80/2.8 ATX are the pro versions. The 28-70/2.8 SV ATX is the cheap version (~300 Euro), plastic and not as great, but still good. Good light! fra
Re: OT: Who is behind the scene of Komkon hosting P*G (was: Recommended SD Cards
G I really don't think there will be much hand shaking if you put G extremists of opposite polarity together. I really don't think the G political spectrum is a circle. The circle, as a simplification but much better one than left-right line is accepted in political science in academic circles. Once you think about it, it makes sense. And if you don't think there will be hand shaking with opposite polarity extremists, you really don't know extremists in reality (which is probably a good thing for you!). Good light! fra
RE: PAW PESO - Waiting for Ketchup
I love Heinz Ketchup :-) Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Jim Apilado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 21. august 2005 08:07 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: PAW PESO - Waiting for Ketchup Love the Leica. Jim A. From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 22:05:50 -0700 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PAW PESO - Waiting for Ketchup Resent-From: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 01:05:48 -0400 I was doing some file maintenance this evening when I rediscovered these pics. I don't believe they've been posted here before. Comments welcome ... http://home.earthlink.net/~sbelinkoff/waiting.html Shel
RE: FA*24/2.0
I have tried this lens for one shooting event (indoor) on the *ist D. I found it brilliantly sharp and haven't noticed any CA-problems. Regards Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 20. august 2005 17:56 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: FA*24/2.0 On Aug 19, 2005, at 6:19 PM, keithw wrote: John Munro wrote: Godfrey, that's interesting what you have to say about the FA24. How did you tell it has a lot of chromatic aberration? Three different people have sent me a bunch of RAW files from the FA [The attachment star.gif has been manually removed] 24mm f/2AL [IF] that exhibited quite a lot of CA. You see it as color fringes around elements in a scene, particularly at the edges. Paul Stenquist sent me several images comparing the A24/2.8 and the FA*24/2. The A24 was much better wide open, and at most other apertures. I don't expect a zoom to perform as well as a prime. That said, in comparison with my A24/2.8, the FA20-35 produces results that are almost indistinguishable. Now, I have mentioned this before: I'm still perplexed by this FA*24 lens. Several people have told me that they just can't abide with it, and several others purport that it is a fabulous lens. I can only say that I've avoided it because of the extreme range of opinions I've discovered about it. I'm satisfied with both the A24/2.8 and the FA20-35 ... both return very good, very sharp, very low CA results. At least mine do. I shoot exclusively with the digital bodies, and the images I've seen from the FA*24 were all taken with the *ist D/DS bodies. I have no idea how this lens performs on film; it's not relevant to my uses for it. Was/is yours an FA*24, or just an FA24? Godfrey prefers an FA over an FA*, for some reason... Do you? I don't have an FA24 or an FA*24. There seems to be some discrepancy in the way this lens is listed in various place. I have the Pentax-A 24mm f/2.8. That's really all I have to say about it. Godfrey
Re: Silver lenses on black bodies
Andre Langevin wrote: And I got complaints about how silly the 43 ltd in silver looks on a D... I find the combo black MZ-S or IST D body with silver Limited lenses great. Am I the only one? Andre I don't mind the look. I think the FA* lenses look pretty good in black bodies too. D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc
Re: colour problems with ist D in combination with studio lights
- Original Message - From: Colin Miller Subject: colour problems with ist D in combination with studio lights Recently I have been shooting sports teams and high school balls with studio lights and my ist D. The skin tones are far too yellow. This doen't happen under sunlight or with a metz flash. The lab suggests setting the contrast and saturation to the lowest levels on the menu. Any experiences or suggestions. Yes, set the white balance manually. William Robb
Re: A couple of PESOs
- Original Message - From: David Savage Subject: Re: A couple of PESOs BTW I like the second shot. In the background is that heat haze, jpeg artifacts or just really bad bokeh? Might be heat haze. I was shooting across an airport runway. William Robb
Re: Silver lenses on black bodies
- Original Message - From: Andre Langevin Subject: Silver lenses on black bodies And I got complaints about how silly the 43 ltd in silver looks on a D... I find the combo black MZ-S or IST D body with silver Limited lenses great. Am I the only one? I prefer the black limited lenses. William Robb
PESO: Dream Cruise Day
Yesterday was the culmination of more than a month of activity and great cars on Detroit's Woodward Avenue. The eleventh annual Dream Cruise played to intermittent showers, which held the cruisers and crowd down to a reported 40,000 and 1.1 million respectively. Nevertheless, it was a great time, and the misty light was nice for some casual photography. I wandered around with what has become my walkaround pair -- the DA 16-45 and DA 50-200. I've uploaded a couple shots I processed this morning. The first is a car built in Indiana. Being friendly folk here in Michigan, we don't discriminate against those Hoosier hot rods. The driver of the second car managed to get the front wheels up despite having what appears to be a two-stroke, ring-a-ding-ding motor -- as evidenced by the ample exhaust smoke. Here they are: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3654514 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3654520
Re: A couple of PESOs
Hi Bill, Considering that you were trying to shoot birds in flight, you seem to have done a reasonably good job of getting them in focus on that second shot, although it would be nice if they were a bit closer. There doesn't seem to be any evidence of camera shake, so your tripod setup must be working. On that first shot with the towers, I would rotate it a bit to straigten the verticals if it were mine. What's most lacking here is really compelling subject matter. I think a trip to Denali is in store for you. First you buy the lens, then you go to Denali. Just ask Ken :-). Paul On Aug 21, 2005, at 12:17 AM, William Robb wrote: I finally managed to get out with the 600 and do some shooting. This les is a challenge to shoot with, to be sure. Anyone using long lenses (Ken, Tom!!!) any tips or advice for using one of these beasties would be appreciated. Anyway, a couple of my less embarrasing atempts with the big gun are here http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/wingedrats1.html http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/wingedrats2.html William Robb
Re: PAW PESO - Waiting for Ketchup
Hi Shel, Nice. Fun pics, well captured. Love that Leica. Is it an M3? Do we know the subject? Paul On Aug 21, 2005, at 1:05 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I was doing some file maintenance this evening when I rediscovered these pics. I don't believe they've been posted here before. Comments welcome ... http://home.earthlink.net/~sbelinkoff/waiting.html Shel
Re: colour problems with ist D in combination with studio lights
Shoot RAW and set your color temperature and hue during conversion. I do all my studio work in RAW. It's the only way to get it absolutely right without a lot of fuss. To make it easy, place a white object somewhere in the shot, and use the eyedropper to set color temperature. You can just clone out the white marker when you process. If you must shoot jpegs, set your white balance manually. See your *istDS operator's manual for instructions. On Aug 21, 2005, at 2:14 AM, Colin Miller wrote: Recently I have been shooting sports teams and high school balls with studio lights and my ist D. The skin tones are far too yellow. This doen't happen under sunlight or with a metz flash. The lab suggests setting the contrast and saturation to the lowest levels on the menu. Any experiences or suggestions. Cheers colin
Re: OT: Who is behind the scene of Komkon hosting P*G (was: Recommended SD Cards
The circle, as a simplification but much better one than left-right line is accepted in political science in academic circles. It is also laughed at in academic circles (no pun intended). Once you think about it, it makes sense. The more I think about it the ~less~ it makes sense. And if you don't think there will be hand shaking with opposite polarity extremists, you really don't know extremists in reality (which is probably a good thing for you!). And I don't even know how to respond to that statement... Replacing one oversimplification with another oversimplification does not progress make. Fred
Re: A couple of PESOs
William Robb wrote: I finally managed to get out with the 600 and do some shooting. This les is a challenge to shoot with, to be sure. I would think so! What was the camera attached to it? With a 35mm camera, you're talking about a 12X magnification. Try hand holding a 12X telescope sometime, and see how much you wiggle around! A monopod helps, but a tripod is almost mandatory, I'd think. Did you use a tripod? Anyone using long lenses (Ken, Tom!!!) any tips or advice for using one of these beasties would be appreciated. Anyway, a couple of my less embarrasing atempts with the big gun are here http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/wingedrats1.html http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/wingedrats2.html William Robb Those are great shots, Bill! You're doing just fine! keith
Re: Pentax warehouse sale, R.I.P. (lengthish)
On Saturday, August 20, 2005, at 09:36 PM, John Likes wrote: I live in the Denver metro area, which, as everyone probably knows, is also headquarters for Pentax USA, the importer, distributor, marketer and so on here. Ten years ago and going forward, they used to throw a big warehouse sale annually which they promoted mostly by word of mouth as a sort of insider's secret event among the folks in the office park. Back in the day Pentax used to have an owner's club and publish a really nice magazine. Periodically they would have mailorder special sales just for the members and sell overstocked and discontinued items, often ridiculously cheap. I loved the magazine because of its high standards for photos and quality printing as well as useful articles. I also loved these sales, and used to buy all sorts of odds and ends. I remember one time they had the bulk film backs for the LX on there for something like 50 bucks! Complete with the two special cassettes. I didn't even own an LX, but I bought six of them and put them on a shelf and resold them years later at a very substantial profit. Another company that used to have mailorder special sales like this once a year or so was Vivitar. One time they had a sale on AI conversion kits for their Nikon mount lenses, and I bought a ton of those and used them to do conversions for a long time after. Vivitar also used to sell camera repair tools in their special sales. It's kind of sad that none of the companies do this sort of thing anymore. These warehouse clearance sales were always a lot of fun. Bob
PESO: Sky Fire
G'day All, So I'm changing my sheets when I hear this almighty boom. I instantly knew what it was, the local Portuguese club was celebrating something with fireworks (it happens a few times a year). So I grabbed my tripod, *ist D with my new 16-45 quickly set up on the front porch. Had a look through the viewfinder swore out loud because I didn't have enough reach. Ran back inside changed over to the 77 Ltd. Much better :-). This is my first ever fireworks shot, taken about halfway through the show (I only managed 3 more before it was all over): http://tinyurl.com/9ntwd Cropped a bit off the top left side, also PS'ed some power lines out of the bottom quarter. Nothing special, just though I'd share. Comments thoughts always welcome. Dave P.S. I now have a greater appreciation of how difficult it is to make good fireworks photos.
Re: Konolta 35 1.4
On 2005-08-20, at 23:13, Joseph Tainter wrote: Hmmm. Is it really a Konolta design, or rebadged from Sigma? This is genuine Konolta design - it has been in their lenses line for about twenty years: http://www.mhohner.de/minolta/lenses.php#fixed -- Best regards Sylwek
FS Sunday: Canon Powershot S45 (sorry it's late)
Please don't flame me for posting a Canon product. :) I am selling my beloved Canon Powershot S45. The S45 is a 4 megapixel compact camera that offers full control over aperture and shutter speed. Focal length is 35mm - 105mm. ISO range is 50-400. It has several metering modes, drive modes, flash modes, and points of focus. CCD sensor. Full specs are here: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Canon/canon_s45.asp My favorite thing about this camera is the layout of the controls. I have always found this camera very easy and a lot of fun to use. I just ended up not using it much, so it's in very good condition. Mine has a very tiny scuff on the front edge of the casing and a few tiny marks on the LCD on the back. Comes with the manual, battery, charger, the 32mb CF card that came with it, and the Naneu Pro case I bought for it. I will try to dig up the AV cable and USB cable that came with it. Asking $150. Paypal accepted. Amita
Re: PESO: Dream Cruise Day
I like that Packard. Really nice old car. Hot rod? What can I say about the second shot? Suped up ride on lawnmowers are dream rides now? :-) Looks like a lot of fun. Dave On 8/21/05, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday was the culmination of more than a month of activity and great cars on Detroit's Woodward Avenue. The eleventh annual Dream Cruise played to intermittent showers, which held the cruisers and crowd down to a reported 40,000 and 1.1 million respectively. Nevertheless, it was a great time, and the misty light was nice for some casual photography. I wandered around with what has become my walkaround pair -- the DA 16-45 and DA 50-200. I've uploaded a couple shots I processed this morning. The first is a car built in Indiana. Being friendly folk here in Michigan, we don't discriminate against those Hoosier hot rods. The driver of the second car managed to get the front wheels up despite having what appears to be a two-stroke, ring-a-ding-ding motor -- as evidenced by the ample exhaust smoke. Here they are: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3654514 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3654520
RE: PESO: Dream Cruise Day
Guess their funny for car enthusiasts. I'm not one of those. For me a car is just a thing. Both pics are a bit too tightly cropped in top, IMO. The yellow car beside the Packard is a bit disturbing, picking up the colour in the golden details in a distracting way. I like the haze, makes the subject stand out. The fact that I do comment car pics, speaks for itself. It proves there must be something with them, but can't tell what. Tim Mostly harless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21. august 2005 12:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Dream Cruise Day Yesterday was the culmination of more than a month of activity and great cars on Detroit's Woodward Avenue. The eleventh annual Dream Cruise played to intermittent showers, which held the cruisers and crowd down to a reported 40,000 and 1.1 million respectively. Nevertheless, it was a great time, and the misty light was nice for some casual photography. I wandered around with what has become my walkaround pair -- the DA 16-45 and DA 50-200. I've uploaded a couple shots I processed this morning. The first is a car built in Indiana. Being friendly folk here in Michigan, we don't discriminate against those Hoosier hot rods. The driver of the second car managed to get the front wheels up despite having what appears to be a two-stroke, ring-a-ding-ding motor -- as evidenced by the ample exhaust smoke. Here they are: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3654514 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3654520
Re: Konolta 35 1.4
On 2005-08-21, at 01:00, Bruce Dayton wrote: I'm betting on a rebadge - their 28-75/2.8 and 17-35/2.8-4 are both Tamrons. This is not a rebadge. That's just the newest version of Minolta's 35/1.4 lens which has been produced for about 20 years in two flavours. See here: http://www.mhohner.de/minolta/lenses.php#fixed And D doesn't mean Digital, it just means that the lens is equipped with distance encoder, just like D lenses for Nikon. -- Best regards Sylwek
Re: PESO: Dream Cruise Day
The most interesting thing is that they used to try and drive all these guys off. They ticketed them so much they drove them off of Woodward, then they moved to Rouge Parkway (late 70's). There they did everything in their power to get rid of them. Now they actively encourage them because they spend money. Such is the economics of SE Michigan these days, I guess. In the 50's we cruised the Big Boy on N. Woodward, probably you could see more street rods in their parking lot than anyplace else in the country. In the 60's the factories had their experimental engines racing the hot rods on N. Woodward. I mentioned the 70's above. In the 80's you hardly dared drive a hot car. I left Michigan and don''t know about the 90's, but from Paul's reports they started actually encouraging the car nuts to come and hang out on N. Woodward. How's that for a 50 year history of cruising North Woodward in a nutshell? graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Paul Stenquist wrote: Yesterday was the culmination of more than a month of activity and great cars on Detroit's Woodward Avenue. The eleventh annual Dream Cruise played to intermittent showers, which held the cruisers and crowd down to a reported 40,000 and 1.1 million respectively. Nevertheless, it was a great time, and the misty light was nice for some casual photography. I wandered around with what has become my walkaround pair -- the DA 16-45 and DA 50-200. I've uploaded a couple shots I processed this morning. The first is a car built in Indiana. Being friendly folk here in Michigan, we don't discriminate against those Hoosier hot rods. The driver of the second car managed to get the front wheels up despite having what appears to be a two-stroke, ring-a-ding-ding motor -- as evidenced by the ample exhaust smoke. Here they are: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3654514 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3654520 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 8/19/2005
Re: The Photographer's Rights
To add to Peter's list, the President of the Committee of Safety (those were the guys who started the whole affair) was David Rittenhouse. That is about as far back as you can go and claim that it had anything to do with the United States. No, he was not an ancestor of mine, although family legend claims his grandfather, who supposedly changed the name to English form from the Dutch, was. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- P. J. Alling wrote: Articles of Confederation -- John Hanson New Federal Constitution -- George Washington But just in case you were referring to the Continental Congress -- Peyton Randolph (I had to look that one up). Shel Belinkoff wrote: Yes - it was in this country's infancy. Speaking of which, who was the first president of the US? Shel [Original Message] From: Bob W you had a month-old president!? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 8/19/2005
Re: A couple of PESOs
Shooting hint: Camo netting, a drum of mosquito repellent and plenty of something to help discourage chiggers from burrowing into your ankles. Tolerance to extremity numbness, a plus. Major tripod only manageable as a result of an intense long term regime of physical conditioning. A final conclusion that it was all good exercise. Really cute..huh? ;-}} This is pretty much my experience with an A-300mm f/2.8. Looking forward to more of your images. Jack --- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I finally managed to get out with the 600 and do some shooting. This les is a challenge to shoot with, to be sure. Anyone using long lenses (Ken, Tom!!!) any tips or advice for using one of these beasties would be appreciated. Anyway, a couple of my less embarrasing atempts with the big gun are here http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/wingedrats1.html http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/wingedrats2.html William Robb __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Silver lenses on black bodies
Looks no more odd to me than having black lenses on chrome bodies. When you look through the viewfinder you can't tell what colour the lens is. ;-) Dave On 8/21/05, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andre Langevin wrote: And I got complaints about how silly the 43 ltd in silver looks on a D... I find the combo black MZ-S or IST D body with silver Limited lenses great. Am I the only one? Andre I don't mind the look. I think the FA* lenses look pretty good in black bodies too. D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc
Re: PAW PESO - Waiting for Ketchup
Yes, it's an M3 - pic taken with an M2 and 35mm Type IV Summicron. Subject sometimes drops in to the PDML. Shel [Original Message] From: Paul Stenquist Hi Shel, Nice. Fun pics, well captured. Love that Leica. Is it an M3? Do we know the subject? http://home.earthlink.net/~sbelinkoff/waiting.html
Re: PAW PESO - Waiting for Ketchup
Is this the same guy who you posted a shot of taken from a high viewpoint at a museum or art gallery quite some time ago? That shot has stuck in my memory for some reason :-) Dave On 8/21/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, it's an M3 - pic taken with an M2 and 35mm Type IV Summicron. Subject sometimes drops in to the PDML. Shel [Original Message] Wrom: DREXCAXZOWCONE Hi Shel, Nice. Fun pics, well captured. Love that Leica. Is it an M3? Do we know the subject? http://home.earthlink.net/~sbelinkoff/waiting.html
Re: PAW PESO - Waiting for Ketchup
Yes, it is ... surprised you'd remember or make the connection. Shel [Original Message] From: David Savage Is this the same guy who you posted a shot of taken from a high viewpoint at a museum or art gallery quite some time ago? That shot has stuck in my memory for some reason :-)
RE: PESO: Sky Fire
I don't care much for fireworks or fireworks pics, but I like this one - the long trail makes it work for me. However, it appears a bit over exposed. Shel [Original Message] From: David Savage This is my first ever fireworks shot, taken about halfway through the show (I only managed 3 more before it was all over): http://tinyurl.com/9ntwd Cropped a bit off the top left side, also PS'ed some power lines out of the bottom quarter. Nothing special, just though I'd share.
Re: colour problems with ist D in combination with studio lights
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: colour problems with ist D in combination with studio lights Shoot RAW and set your color temperature and hue during conversion. I do all my studio work in RAW. It's the only way to get it absolutely right without a lot of fuss. To make it easy, place a white object somewhere in the shot, and use the eyedropper to set color temperature. You can just clone out the white marker when you process. If you must shoot jpegs, set your white balance manually. See your *istDS operator's manual for instructions. I set up a RAW conversion action specifically for my studio lights. I didn't think of putting a white card into the scene, I just adjusted till it looked right on the screen. Thanks for the tip. It's something I should have thought of myself. If the lights are consistent output (I've seen some that are all over the place) it should be OK to take the white card out after your aperture setting exposure and carry on. I don't use a flash meter in the studio anymore, I use the histogram on the camera. I'm pretty comfortable with my lighting ratios now though, so I don't need to meter every light anymore. William Robb
Re: Pentax warehouse sale, R.I.P. (lengthish)
- Original Message - From: Bob Shell Subject: Re: Pentax warehouse sale, R.I.P. (lengthish) It's kind of sad that none of the companies do this sort of thing anymore. These warehouse clearance sales were always a lot of fun. I suspect that they are all as close to on demand manufacture as possible now, and I doubt very much if the really nice stuff is made until ordered. I bought a new 15/3.5 last year, it was special order from Japan and took almost 3 months. It is sad, I always liked digging around in the stuff that was being cleared out of the bowels of the warehouse too. William Robb
Re: A couple of PESOs
- Original Message - From: keithw Subject: Re: A couple of PESOs . This les is a challenge to shoot with, to be sure. I would think so! What was the camera attached to it? That was the istD. With a 35mm camera, you're talking about a 12X magnification. Try hand holding a 12X telescope sometime, and see how much you wiggle around! A monopod helps, but a tripod is almost mandatory, I'd think. Did you use a tripod? Yup, Zone VI standard under a Wimberley head. Those are great shots, Bill! You're doing just fine! Thanks Keith, I agree with Paul that the subjects could be more compelling, but after having the lens for almost 2 weeks and not making a single exposure with it, I was getting kinda antsy to try it out. William Robb
Re: A couple of PESOs
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: A couple of PESOs Hi Bill, Considering that you were trying to shoot birds in flight, you seem to have done a reasonably good job of getting them in focus on that second shot, although it would be nice if they were a bit closer. There doesn't seem to be any evidence of camera shake, so your tripod setup must be working. Thats the Zone VI tripod under a Wimberley head. I had some problems getting an attachment that was workable, and I really think Pentax could have done a better job on the design of this lens. The only way I can actually get the thing to balance is with the istD and battery pack, or else the LX with the winder attached. On that first shot with the towers, I would rotate it a bit to straigten the verticals if it were mine. What's most lacking here is really compelling subject matter. I think a trip to Denali is in store for you. First you buy the lens, then you go to Denali. Just ask Ken :-). Compelling subject matter? You don't like flying rats? g I was on my way home from the lumber store and decided to try to shoot some shots of the Re/Max balloon. They were even more bland, so I tried to take a picture of an airliner taking off. Couldn't track it until it was a mere speck, so I decided to try something slower moving. This is a very challenging lens to shoot with. Thanks for looking and commenting. William Robb
Re: A couple of PESOs
Your comment leads me to think about adding an extension tube or two to the lens and using it for close-up or macro work. Shel [Original Message] From: William Robb ...after having the lens for almost 2 weeks and not making a singel exposure with it, I was getting kinda antsy to try it out.
Re: Silver lenses on black bodies
On Aug 21, 2005, at 7:53 AM, David Savage wrote: Looks no more odd to me than having black lenses on chrome bodies. When you look through the viewfinder you can't tell what colour the lens is. ;-) Yes. Godfrey
Re: Silver lenses on black bodies
On Aug 20, 2005, at 10:47 PM, Andre Langevin wrote: I find the combo black MZ-S or IST D body with silver Limited lenses great. Same here: http://homepage.mac.com/godders/DS-28-105comp.jpg Godfrey
Re: PESO: Dream Cruise Day
On 21/8/05, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3654520 Love it! I want one of those! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Another Ques re: istDs
If the camera is set a certain way - such as to shoot in manual mode or aperture priority, or has the meter set to a certain mode, or white balance, sharpening, contrast, etc., does turning the camera off cause the camera to reset to defaults when turned on again, or does the camera retain the selected settings? Shel
Re: PESO: Dream Cruise Day
On 21/8/05, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: For me a car is just a thing. speechless Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO: Sky Fire
On 21/8/05, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: http://tinyurl.com/9ntwd Cropped a bit off the top left side, also PS'ed some power lines out of the bottom quarter. Nothing special, just though I'd share. Comments thoughts always welcome. That's a lovely shot mate, and it's your first one?? Superb. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: A couple of PESOs
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: A couple of PESOs Your comment leads me to think about adding an extension tube or two to the lens and using it for close-up or macro work. Butterflies from 30 feet should be possible William Robb
Another shot with the 600
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/jazzland.html Probably not a compelling as the winged rats, unless you like Canadian Jazz. William Robb
Re: Another Ques re: istDs
On 21/8/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed: If the camera is set a certain way - such as to shoot in manual mode or aperture priority, or has the meter set to a certain mode, or white balance, sharpening, contrast, etc., does turning the camera off cause the camera to reset to defaults when turned on again, or does the camera retain the selected settings? It should retain selected settings, even if you switch it off and change the main battery. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO: Dream Cruise Day
- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: PESO: Dream Cruise Day On 21/8/05, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: For me a car is just a thing. speechless Some people are a little weird, no? He probably doesn't like girls either.. WW
Re: Another Ques re: istDs
Main battery? Are there auxiliary bats as well? Shel [Original Message] From: Cotty It should retain selected settings, even if you switch it off and change the main battery.
Re: Silver lenses on black bodies
- Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Subject: Re: Silver lenses on black bodies On Aug 20, 2005, at 10:47 PM, Andre Langevin wrote: I find the combo black MZ-S or IST D body with silver Limited lenses great. Same here: http://homepage.mac.com/godders/DS-28-105comp.jpg The greenish/white ones look good on any body colour William Robb
Re: FA*24/2.0
Did I mention that we're off to see Alison Krauss in London in a couple of weeks? g Cheers, Cotty That'll be a great show. Since 'Brother, where art thou?', there certainly has been a resurgence in bluegrass. And there are some amazing virtuoso musicians amongst them, and Allison Krause and Union Station is perhaps the best of the bunch. She is an incredible musician, singer, and a multi-instrumentalist as well. I also love Ralph Stanley doing those a capella early gospel revival tunes; 'Oh, Death' and such. I hope he's there for you. Hauntingly beautiful. And it is interesting to note how close the old Southern white church music is to early black Gospel, work songs, and spiritual music, which is amazing considering the brutal racial divisions in the history of the American South. One would think they would have distanced themselves from it, rather than trying to embrace it as their own. Have a great trip and a great concert, Cotty. You almost singlehandedly keep this list collegial and friendly with your comical jibes. Some people are so freakin' serious; life's too short to be serious all the time. We lubs ya, baby. Your camera still sucks, though. Cameron
Re: Another Ques re: istDs
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: Another Ques re: istDs Main battery? Are there auxiliary bats as well? There is a lithium button battery (about the size of a 50 cent piece) that keeps everything warm when the power is shut off. It should have a 5 or so year life expectancy. When it gets changed, you will lose all the custom settings on the camera, so it's a good idea to have this info written down somewhere. It seems to me that with the remote assistand software, they could have made it possible to set all this stuff and store it as a file on the computer, and reload it from there. OTOH, it's not like as if it is required to replace the battery all that often. William Robb
RE: PESO: Dream Cruise Day
-Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21. august 2005 17:44 To: pentax list Subject: Re: PESO: Dream Cruise Day On 21/8/05, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: For me a car is just a thing. speechless Yeah. Takes a lot of guts, to make a statement like this, here at PDML. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
Re: Pentax warehouse sale, R.I.P. (lengthish)
On Sunday, August 21, 2005, at 11:22 AM, William Robb wrote: I suspect that they are all as close to on demand manufacture as possible now, and I doubt very much if the really nice stuff is made until ordered. I bought a new 15/3.5 last year, it was special order from Japan and took almost 3 months. It is sad, I always liked digging around in the stuff that was being cleared out of the bowels of the warehouse too. The closest thing in recent years was Brooklyn Camera Exchange. I haven't been there in years, though, so I don't know if it is still like one big indoor photo flea market. The other place I used to really love, although it wasn't strictly photographic, was B F Enterprises. They were in an old mill building in Cambridge, Mass., and the place was floor to ceiling full of industrial and military surplus. Arthur Kramer told me about the place. I don't think they're still around, though. I couldn't find them via a Google search. I bought all sorts of oddball photo and electronic stuff from them. A fun on-line place to check periodically for photo stuff is Anchor Supplies Limited in England. Several years ago they had a lot of Rollei T cameras that were British military surplus and were just like brand new. I bought one with case and instruction book for about $ 250. They're here: http://www.anchorsupplies.com/ Bob
Re: Another Ques re: istDs
Is there a list of accessories that are available for the camera posted anywhere? Shel
Re: Another Ques re: istDs
On 21/8/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: When it gets changed, you will lose all the custom settings on the camera, so it's a good idea to have this info written down somewhere. It seems to me that with the remote assistand software, they could have made it possible to set all this stuff and store it as a file on the computer, and reload it from there. Is there no facility to save all the camera settings (incl personal and custom functions) to the CF card? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Another Ques re: istDs
On 21/8/05, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: Is there no facility to save all the camera settings (incl personal and custom functions) to the CF card? Sorry, I mean to the SD card? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Another Ques re: istDs
Thanks, Bill ... my old Sony Mavica had that, although the newer Sony doesn't seem to. This battery concept, and turning a camera on/off will certainly take some getting used to. There have been so many times when I've forgotten to turn the 5n off, or forgot to turn it on before trying to use it and being unable to take a shot sigh What's remote assistant software? Shel [Original Message] From: William Robb There is a lithium button battery (about the size of a 50 cent piece) that keeps everything warm when the power is shut off. It should have a 5 or so year life expectancy. When it gets changed, you will lose all the custom settings on the camera, so it's a good idea to have this info written down somewhere. It seems to me that with the remote assistand software, they could have made it possible to set all this stuff and store it as a file on the computer, and reload it from there. OTOH, it's not like as if it is required to replace the battery all that often.
Re: FA*24/2.0
On 21/8/05, Cameron Hood, discombobulated, unleashed: Your camera still sucks, though. If you think that's bad, you should hear me playing my Weber Mando ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Silver lenses on black bodies
Since the question is up – how easy is it to get the black LE lenses? SMC PENTAX-FA 1:1.8 31mm AL Limited is available in black I believe. Another aspect – silver will always be silver while the black will wear off ne? The silver lenses will look great on the *istDL! Bertil
Re: PESO: Dream Cruise Day
For me a car is just a thing. speechless Yeah. Takes a lot of guts, to make a statement like this, here at PDML. I'm just joking Tim. I know lots iof people who have no interest in cars except as a means of getting from A to B. I'm the same really, I just like to go via Z ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO: Dream Cruise Day
Yes, but you've got about 33 feet worth, you'll hardly miss a bit. Tim Øsleby wrote: -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21. august 2005 17:44 To: pentax list Subject: Re: PESO: Dream Cruise Day On 21/8/05, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: For me a car is just a thing. speechless Yeah. Takes a lot of guts, to make a statement like this, here at PDML. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: Silver lenses on black bodies
Ah yes, a Silver limited on an *ist-DL, the dream lives. Bertil Holmberg wrote: Since the question is up – how easy is it to get the black LE lenses? SMC PENTAX-FA 1:1.8 31mm AL Limited is available in black I believe. Another aspect – silver will always be silver while the black will wear off ne? The silver lenses will look great on the *istDL! Bertil -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: Another Ques re: istDs
- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: Another Ques re: istDs Is there no facility to save all the camera settings (incl personal and custom functions) to the CF card? I don't think so. I'd have to check the manual to be certain though. William Robb
Re: Another Ques re: istDs
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: Another Ques re: istDs Thanks, Bill ... my old Sony Mavica had that, although the newer Sony doesn't seem to. This battery concept, and turning a camera on/off will certainly take some getting used to. There have been so many times when I've forgotten to turn the 5n off, or forgot to turn it on before trying to use it and being unable to take a shot sigh The digital powers itself down after a few minutes (user settable time delay). The istD, if it has powered itself down, is ready to go again just by touching and releasing the shutter button once. What's remote assistant software? You can attach the camera to a computer via a USB cable and control it from there. I haven't investigated the possibilities fully though, so I really don't know all that is available. Note, I misread the subject line, I am talking about the istD, not the istDs. I don't know if it can use the Remote Assistant or not. William Robb
Re: Another Ques re: istDs
- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: Another Ques re: istDs On 21/8/05, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: Is there no facility to save all the camera settings (incl personal and custom functions) to the CF card? Sorry, I mean to the SD card? Duh! Misread the subject line. I'm talking about the istD, not the istDs. I'll go to my room now. William Robb
Re: Silver lenses on black bodies
- Original Message - From: Bertil Holmberg Subject: Re: Silver lenses on black bodies Since the question is up – how easy is it to get the black LE lenses? It was too easy in Canada. I ended up with 2 of them. Another aspect – silver will always be silver while the black will wear off ne? With the Limiteds, I have my doubts. It is a really tough finish. William Robb
Re: Another Ques re: istDs
I don't think remote assistant works with the *ist-Ds, it's a D only download. It would make more sense with the Ds since it has the USB 2.0 interface, but since when does anything PENTAX make sense... William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: Another Ques re: istDs Thanks, Bill ... my old Sony Mavica had that, although the newer Sony doesn't seem to. This battery concept, and turning a camera on/off will certainly take some getting used to. There have been so many times when I've forgotten to turn the 5n off, or forgot to turn it on before trying to use it and being unable to take a shot sigh The digital powers itself down after a few minutes (user settable time delay). The istD, if it has powered itself down, is ready to go again just by touching and releasing the shutter button once. What's remote assistant software? You can attach the camera to a computer via a USB cable and control it from there. I haven't investigated the possibilities fully though, so I really don't know all that is available. Note, I misread the subject line, I am talking about the istD, not the istDs. I don't know if it can use the Remote Assistant or not. William Robb -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: Another Ques re: istDs
I'm not familiar with the S, but I use Remote Assistant on a regular basis with my D. It's great for studio work. I can sit at the computer and trip the shutter. The review image then appears on my screen, and the RAW file is saved to the computer. If I need to see exactly what I got, I just open the RAW in the PSCS RAW converter. Love it. Paul On Aug 21, 2005, at 12:45 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: I don't think remote assistant works with the *ist-Ds, it's a D only download. It would make more sense with the Ds since it has the USB 2.0 interface, but since when does anything PENTAX make sense... William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: Another Ques re: istDs Thanks, Bill ... my old Sony Mavica had that, although the newer Sony doesn't seem to. This battery concept, and turning a camera on/off will certainly take some getting used to. There have been so many times when I've forgotten to turn the 5n off, or forgot to turn it on before trying to use it and being unable to take a shot sigh The digital powers itself down after a few minutes (user settable time delay). The istD, if it has powered itself down, is ready to go again just by touching and releasing the shutter button once. What's remote assistant software? You can attach the camera to a computer via a USB cable and control it from there. I haven't investigated the possibilities fully though, so I really don't know all that is available. Note, I misread the subject line, I am talking about the istD, not the istDs. I don't know if it can use the Remote Assistant or not. William Robb -- When you're worried or in doubt,Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: A couple of PESOs
Gotta love how the distance is compressed with that lens. Bruce Even makes Saskatchewan look cozy. :) Nice shots Bill. Flying birds, even large ratish ones, are not easy. You could practice on something easier like a gofer. Powell Saturday, August 20, 2005, 9:17:44 PM, you wrote: WR http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/wingedrats1.html WR http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/wingedrats2.html WR William Robb
Re: Another shot with the 600
On Aug 21, 2005, at 8:45 AM, William Robb wrote: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/jazzland.html Probably not a compelling as the winged rats, unless you like Canadian Jazz. Gawds, the air makes it looks as though you used the Liquify tools in Photoshop! :-) Yes, it's certainly as challenging to shoot with ultra-telephoto as it is with ultra-wide. I liked the photo of birds on the wing. Godfrey
Re: Pentax warehouse sale, R.I.P. (lengthish)
On Aug 21, 2005, at 9:00 AM, Bob Shell wrote: A fun on-line place to check periodically for photo stuff is Anchor Supplies Limited in England. Several years ago they had a lot of Rollei T cameras that were British military surplus and were just like brand new. I bought one with case and instruction book for about $ 250. They're here: http://www.anchorsupplies.com/ Love that on the top page of the Land Rover negotiating a ditch. :-) Not sure my Freelander would do quite as well in that kinda circumstance. Godfrey
Re: Tokina AT-X 287 AF PRO SV 28-70mm f/2.8D
From: Frantisek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tokina AT-X 287 AF PRO SV 28-70mm f/2.8D IR Again, I am not sure how the new lens is compared to the old one, IR and what is the difference between the 28-70/2.8 and 28-80/2.8, IR i.e. which one is the continuation of the 28-70/2.6-2.8 design, if any. IR I was curious about that myself. See the archives! This is a recuperant theme, and was discussed few months ago quite a lot. Just shortly, 28-70/2.6-2.8 ATX 28-80/2.8 ATX are the pro versions. The 28-70/2.8 SV ATX is the cheap version (~300 Euro), plastic and not as great, but still good. Good light! fra Frantisek, I've searched the archives, but didn't find the answer. I might try to search again. I thought it could be the way you wrote, but Tokina website claims that 28-70/2.8 ATX SV is also in the PRO line: http://www.thkphoto.com/products/tokina/index.html http://www.thkphoto.com/products/tokina/afl-03.html Judging from the picture, - its external design is very close to that of 28-70/2.6-2.8 ATX PRO However, the internal design pictured there indeed seems to indicate better optics quality of the 28-80/2.8 compared to that of 28-70/2.8 Igor
Re: PESO: Dream Cruise Day
Love the Packard, Paul. I always admire and envy your insect shots. But seeing the haze in this photo reminds me why I am glad to live in New Mexico, even though we have fewer opportunities for insect photography. I used to live near Chicago, and remember well what August is like. Joe
Re: Another Ques re: istDs
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: Another Ques re: istDs Main battery? Are there auxiliary bats as well? There is a lithium button battery (about the size of a 50 cent piece) that keeps everything warm when the power is shut off. It should have a 5 or so year life expectancy. When it gets changed, you will lose all the custom settings on the camera, so it's a good idea to have this info written down somewhere. William Robb The Ds has no button battery. Suspect it uses a capacitor to maintain settings while the batteries are changed. Or perhaps a rechargeable internal backup battery? I've had the camera sitting with dead batteries without losing settings. Powell
Re: A couple of PESOs
Seems to perform nicely on the D, Bill. Joe
Re: Another Ques re: istDs
Read through the thread and it seemed all the respondees were D body users. I use only the DS body. On Aug 21, 2005, at 8:43 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: If the camera is set a certain way - such as to shoot in manual mode or aperture priority, or has the meter set to a certain mode, or white balance, sharpening, contrast, etc., does turning the camera off cause the camera to reset to defaults when turned on again, or does the camera retain the selected settings? The DS retains all user settings through on/off power cycles and battery changes. It has no backup button battery: it uses a small condensor to provide the same functionality, which never needs to be changed. It will retain all user settings if the batteries are removed for charging and the camera's power switch is OFF for at least 48 hours. There is no facility that I'm aware of to save user settings and reload them from a file stored on a computer or storage card. The DS does work with the Pentax Remote Assistant software, although it is not a supported configuration. Nearly all functions work as they do on the D model. You can download the Remote Assistant software from Pentax, it is not supplied with the camera. The camera is supplied with Pentax Photo Laboratory and Pentax Photo Browser software, as well as USB drivers for Windows 98SE (all later Windows versions have the necessary drivers installed by default, as does Mac OS 9.1 and Mac OS X). None of the supplied software packages are essential to the operation of the camera. The accessory list for the DS is described in the DS' instruction manual. It includes: AC Adapter D-AC10 Cable Switch CS-205 Remote Control F Auto Flash AF360FGZ Off-camera Shoe Clip CL-10 (for the above flash unit) Hot Shoe Adapter FG Extension Cord F5P Off-camera Shoe Adapter F Magnifier FB Ref-converter A Diopter correction lens adapter M Interchangeable Focusing Screen LF-60 : AF Framed Matte (standard) (std replacement) LL-60 : AF Divided Matte LI-60 : AF Scaled Matte Camera Case O-CC28 Eyecup FL (std replacement) Strap O-ST10 (std replacement) Godfrey
Re: FA*24/2.0
On Aug 20, 2005, at 11:17 PM, John Munro wrote: WoW!!! That's really, really impressive, Godfrey!!! 250 lbs. of anything, especially a pressed bench (whatever that is), is something I'm sure I could never pull off, oops, I mean press on/ off (?). Whenever I'm in San Francisco and need to go to the rougher parts of town that has benches I'll definitely remember to ask you to escort me. I'll be glad to provide the service. Ya never know when those benches will try to smack you in the knee. Godfrey
Re: Another Ques re: istDs
On Aug 21, 2005, at 9:13 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: This battery concept, and turning a camera on/off will certainly take some getting used to. There have been so many times when I've forgotten to turn the 5n off, or forgot to turn it on before trying to use it and being unable to take a shot sigh The DS' auto-power-off function is adjustable using the Set-up menu. It can be set to 1, 3, 5, 10, 30 minutes, or never (off). I almost always leave the camera in my bag with the main power switch on and auto-power-off set to 10 minutes. As you pick the camera up to take a shot, you get into the habit of touching the shutter release, which switches it back on and activates the metering system. The metering system has its own timer as well. It is adjustable separately from the auto-power-off function: in the Custom Settings menu, you use the Meter Operating Time function to set it to 10, 3, or 30 seconds (10 seconds is the default). This setting will adjust how long the metering system display stays active after the shutter release is pressed half-way and let go, without releasing the shutter. Once the shutter is released, the meter display will always turn off in about 3 seconds. (The meter display will also stay active for as long as you hold the shutter release pressed half-way.) I always leave my cameras set to 30 seconds for this function. The DS power up and meter activate when you touch the shutter release is very quick, such that whenever I grab the camera and touch the release it is ready to use by the time I've gotten it to my eye. Godfrey
Re: Pentax warehouse sale, R.I.P. (lengthish)
stuff omitted A fun on-line place to check periodically for photo stuff is Anchor Supplies Limited in England. Several years ago they had a lot of Rollei T cameras that were British military surplus and were just like brand new. I bought one with case and instruction book for about $ 250. They're here: http://www.anchorsupplies.com/ Bob Charmed by the hard-hat diving suit for 6500 GBP. Just the thing for a theme based restaurant or indie film maker. J.W.L.
Re: OT: Who is behind the scene of Komkon hosting P*G (was: Recommended SD Cards
is accepted in political science in academic circles. F It is also laughed at in academic circles (no pun intended). I guess it depends on the uni or lecturer ;-) there are so many different views... And if you don't think there will be hand shaking with opposite polarity extremists, you really don't know extremists in reality (which is probably a good thing for you!). F And I don't even know how to respond to that statement... I simply meant that there are many cases of e.g. left-wing extremists becoming right-wing extremists or vice versa. F Replacing one oversimplification with another oversimplification does not F progress make. Ok :) Good light! fra
Re: Tokina AT-X 287 AF PRO SV 28-70mm f/2.8D
IR I've searched the archives, but didn't find the answer. IR I might try to search again. I will try to look up the messages on my computer, if they are still here. IR I thought it could be the way you wrote, but Tokina website IR claims that 28-70/2.8 ATX SV is also in the PRO line: IR http://www.thkphoto.com/products/tokina/index.html IR http://www.thkphoto.com/products/tokina/afl-03.html They may say what they want, but I have handled both the 2.6-2.8, 2.8 SV (yes, it features PRO denomination as well). The 28-80 I have only handled once, and not shot any photos. Simply, there is difference in mechanical construction and materials* once you compare the SV and non-SV versions. SV was previous line of Tokina's consumer lenses, the SV PRO is a merge of the two?!? Optically, I have seen better results from the non-SV versions, esp. at full aperture. That said, it's not a bad lens at all, just not as great as the earlier (and quite a lot more expensive) Tokina 2.6-2.8 or 28-80 probably. *: the zoom rings are plastic in the SV version. Like with most partly plastic lenses like Sigma 70-200/2.8, once you squeeze the zoom ring a bit, it turns much less freely compared to a good all-metal zoom. More of the outer shell is plastic too. The design looks the same, but the materials differ, just hold them in hand :) Hope that helps.
PAW: People Portraits #33 - GDG
This one brings me up to date. :-) http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/33.htm Comments, critique, flames always appreciated. enjoy, Godfrey
Re: Another Ques re: istDs
On Aug 21, 2005, at 11:45 AM, Tomasz Machnik wrote: The DS retains all user settings through on/off power cycles and battery changes. I am not sure if exposure correction setting is a user setting, but it is one that gets lost on battery change. Can be quite painful when shooting in hurry when lighting requires some EV correction. Two times I needed to change batteries in middle of action, and two times I forgot to dial the correction back. Interesting, I'd not noticed that before. Thanks for pointing it out. I have gotten quite used to glancing at the status display in the VF and on the upper LCD to check EV compensation is on or off. It's preserved through a power cycle, resets to 0 when you change batteries. I've never needed to change batteries in the middle of action, however, and I always return the camera to EV comp 0 when I'm done with a few moments shooting anyway. Godfrey
Re: PESO - Politics
In a message dated 8/20/2005 6:39:28 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was thinking left and right wing myself. -- Bruce It has several middle of the roaders as well, although they are not in full flower. Marnie aka Doe :-)
Re: PESO: Sky Fire
In a message dated 8/21/2005 6:13:04 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is my first ever fireworks shot, taken about halfway through the show (I only managed 3 more before it was all over): http://tinyurl.com/9ntwd Cropped a bit off the top left side, also PS'ed some power lines out of the bottom quarter. Nothing special, just though I'd share. Comments thoughts always welcome. Dave = Cool shot. You caught it at a good moment. Marnie aka Doe
RE: A couple of PESOs
Good job on number 2. Evan
RE: PAW PESO - Waiting for Ketchup
What great pics. The first one is perfect. Evan
Re: PAW PESO - Waiting for Ketchup
In a message dated 8/20/2005 10:07:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was doing some file maintenance this evening when I rediscovered these pics. I don't believe they've been posted here before. Comments welcome ... http://home.earthlink.net/~sbelinkoff/waiting.html Shel = Yeah, actually you did show them before. Well, to be clear I've seen the first before, not sure about the second. Not sure you didn't show another one as the second one. Anyway, I like the second one (again). Nice moment. Marnie aka Doe
RE: A couple of PESOs
Bill, I've had this lens for about 2 years now, and agree with everything you've said. I describe it as a long stovepipe, with the mount stuck on one end. I'm surprised you are able to balance it on a gimbaled head. I use it on a ballhead and crank it down as tight as I can, plus use my focusing hand to absorb vibration. With the thing being so long from the mounting point, it creates a pretty big arc for every little movement. That said, when battened down, it is marvelously sharp, even with the 1.4XL converter and an ist D: http://groups.msn.com/wsawyerphotography/wildlife.msnw?action=ShowPhotoPhot oID=179 Fred W. used to state that he could hand hold his with reasonable results, I don't even try to pan with it any more. Within it's limits, though, I think it's a great lens. Bill Sawyer Livonia, MI -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 12:18 AM To: Pentax Discuss Subject: A couple of PESOs I finally managed to get out with the 600 and do some shooting. This les is a challenge to shoot with, to be sure. Anyone using long lenses (Ken, Tom!!!) any tips or advice for using one of these beasties would be appreciated. Anyway, a couple of my less embarrasing atempts with the big gun are here http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/wingedrats1.html http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/wingedrats2.html William Robb
Re: PESO: Sky Fire
Shel Belinkoff wrote: I don't care much for fireworks or fireworks pics, but I like this one - the long trail makes it work for me. However, it appears a bit over exposed. That's because he exposure time was 30 seconds, I suppose. g keith Shel [Original Message] From: David Savage This is my first ever fireworks shot, taken about halfway through the show (I only managed 3 more before it was all over): http://tinyurl.com/9ntwd Cropped a bit off the top left side, also PS'ed some power lines out of the bottom quarter. Nothing special, just though I'd share.
Re: The Photographer's Rights
In a message dated 8/20/2005 11:49:46 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: didn't bring up Clinton because, what with Haiti and Somalia, I thought there might be room for argument. = Well, sort of. But as I recall, Clinton didn't START anything. And our involvement was sort of minimal compared to the Gulf War and Iraq. It's sort of relative, like you said, do we clarify between a president starting something or getting sucked into an ongoing conflict? Even those dividing lines aren't always clear. Does it depend on how many American dead? How *successful* it was, etc? What is success? Personally I see a difference between Iraq and some other wars. Between Vietnam and some other wars. Whatever. As someone said, Nixon got us out of Vietnam. But my memory is, that at the time, no one saw that as any kind of victory. Just a matter of tapering off and finally giving up. So these things aren't always clear. But I see a difference between the U.S. having heavy involvement and light involvement and a president starting it or not. Marnie aka Doe
Re: Tokina AT-X 287 AF PRO SV 28-70mm f/2.8D
The original Tokina 28-70 Pro is the last zoom that Angenieux made for SLR, bought and rebadged by Tokina. Further Tokina 28-70 and 28-80 models developped from there I guess. Andre
Re: PAW PESO - Waiting for Ketchup
Great face in the first! The camera looks like my old M3. Godfrey On Aug 20, 2005, at 10:05 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I was doing some file maintenance this evening when I rediscovered these pics. I don't believe they've been posted here before. Comments welcome ... http://home.earthlink.net/~sbelinkoff/waiting.html Shel
