Re: PAD - photo a day
On 16/12/05, alkos, discombobulated, unleashed: >I'd like to present you my site - http://pad.go.pl > >All of the pictures were taken with pentax gear : k2 or mesuper with >50/1.2 or 28/3.5 with few exceptions for the pentax gear I don't have >anymore ;-) > >I hope you'll like it :-) Some fabulous work there! Nicely laid out, stylish. Love the reflection theme, and as I already know, Polish girls are the cutest in the world ;-) Lovely - well done. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: AA bis
> fra: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > - Original Message - > From: "DagT" > Subject: Re: AA bis > > > >> Copying St. Ansel is a creative challenge all by itself. > > > > A challenge, yes, but not creative. > > I was going to tell you that you are full of shit, but I think it is enough > to say that I think you are quite wrong. And of course, you may say and think whatever you want. Actually, I don't think that you are in a position were you are able to make me angry. .-) I don't disagree that copying of the masters may be important when you are in the process of learning a craft, but creativity is where you start to differ, to make your own expression. Strict copying is the opposite of creativity. Getting inspiration from previous works may be part of a creative process. To give up and say that everything is done is just (call it whatever you want). DagT
Re: Re: B+H
> > From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2005/12/15 Thu PM 11:10:11 GMT > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: B+H > > You mean "Tallpost" Cotty? > > > I don't wish to sign this... Trollpost. You do know that he lives under a bridge, don't you? > --- Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 15/12/05, Jostein, discombobulated, unleashed: > > > > >Linjegods and particularly Tollpost > > > > Being 6'5" I tend to use Tollpost myself. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > Cotty > > > > > > ___/\__ > > || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche > > ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com > > _ > > > > > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Re: Peso - Something in the tree
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: 2005/12/16 Fri AM 04:51:28 GMT > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: Peso - Something in the tree > > In a message dated 12/15/2005 2:19:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > And it's not a kitten. > > http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/channel/50/extra/new/display/4577955 > > Congrats future dad. Took me a moment to figure it out. > > Cute way to present it. > > Marnie aka Doe Thanks to all for the responses and congratulations. The idea for presentation just came into my head as the print was being scanned. As Cath has not seen this yet, something else may be coming into my head shortly. 8-) mike - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Peso - Something in the tree
Quoting mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/channel/50/extra/new/display/4577955 LOL! Great presentation, Mike. Jostein This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: PAD - photo a day
> > From: alkos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2005/12/16 Fri AM 12:16:14 GMT > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: PAD - photo a day > > [ Don't worry, I will not post a jpeg each morning here ;-) ] > > > > I'd like to present you my site - http://pad.go.pl > > All of the pictures were taken with pentax gear : k2 or mesuper with > 50/1.2 or 28/3.5 with few exceptions for the pentax gear I don't have > anymore ;-) > > I hope you'll like it :-) > Cholernja dobra! - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Pentax 645 system site???
Hi, does anybody know site with comprehensive 645 information about bodies, lenses, accessories? Something like KMP??? I was searching for that, but couldn't find anything :-( TIA for any help! :-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Help with Pixelation (Thanks)
> Have you checked the colour depth setting on > the two problem monitors? If they > aren't sent to 32-bit, you might get > posterisation of smooth tones BINGO! I changed the setting on the laptop to 32-bit, refreshed my browser, and the pixelation (i.e., "posterisation of smooth tones") is all gone. Thanks! I guess that still leaves the questions of 1) why it only does it when I insert the photo into a webpage, and 2) why some of my photos (albeit just a few) have this problem @ 16-bit, and some don't ... but I'm content for now to have "fixed" it on these two monitors. Thanks again, D!!
OT: Raising money for camera equipment.
I want to buy a few lenses in the new year but I want to sell items I'm not using (or ever used in this case) to fund it. I have no idea if there is any value in these and I can't sell them on eBay as it appears that evaluation software and the like isn't listable. Anyway, I have a couple of hundred Microsoft MSDN CDs covering a huge variety of their products from 1997 to 2001, some from a Technet(?) subscription, which were given to me but never used. Do they have any value and where would you sell them? If they have value, I'll make a note of exactly what I have. Malcolm
Re: PESO - Surface Tension
Tom, That's more correctly stated as Commy-Pinko-Leftist-Socialist-Democrat. Bob S. On 12/15/05, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > LOL! Thanks Jack! Happy to hear you like the eveness of the the leaves. > Did you actually LIKE the image? No Pinko-Commy Digital Velvia was applied. > LOL again. Thanks. > > Tom C. > > > > > >From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > >To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > >Subject: Re: PESO - Surface Tension > >Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:13:55 -0800 (PST) > > > >Very even leaf distribution. > >I was about to comment about the colors, but thought better of it.;-]] > > > >Jack > > > > > >--- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3931937 > > > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > >
Re: Pentax 645 system site???
Maybe it is time to start to build web site for P645 ? Gasha Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: Hi, does anybody know site with comprehensive 645 information about bodies, lenses, accessories? Something like KMP??? I was searching for that, but couldn't find anything :-( TIA for any help! :-)
Re: Using the A*85/1.4
lighten up, man! best, mishka On 12/16/05, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Mishka" > Subject: Re: Using the A*85/1.4 > > > > reminds me a shampoo ad: "my hair used to be dry and dead. now it's > > moist and crawling" > > The film marketplace is at 50% of where it was two years ago, and the trend > is showing no sign of reversing. > > William Robb > > >
Re: PESO - A Quiet Moment
On 12/14/05, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This was taken a few days ago at a family portrait session. I usually > shoot each of the children individually along with the family. > > > Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, AF360FGZ on Stroboframe bracket > ISO 400, 1/90 sec @ f/4.5, Manual Mode, Center weighted metering > -1.5 stops flash compensation, shading provided by the father holding > my reflective to soften the sun. > > http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/moss_025bw.htm > > Comments welcome Lovely, wistful smile. I love her expression, body language, and the overall composition (with her leaning on that big rock). The background is nicely OOF; lovely bokeh. The rendition is a bit flat - could use a bit more "punch" - but that doesn't detract from a gorgeous portrait. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: AA bis
"William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >From: "graywolf" > >> Copying a masters works is a good way to learn. However it takes >> creativity to become a master oneself. > >Copying St. Ansel is a creative challenge all by itself. When Mike Johnston was on this list he commented on the idea of taking a shot from the exact same spot from which a famous photograph was made was a great way to improve your photography because the challenge is to make your own, different statement from the same scene. I'd never thought of that before and it changed my perspective a lot. I no longer worry about if another photographer has shot the same scene from the same location before, I just try to concentrate on my own vision of the time and place. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: PESO - Start the day (or Coffee, Juice, Sigarette)
On 12/15/05, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > http://www.photoforum.ru/photo/242720 > > Hope I am getting out of my yet another dry spell. > > What do you say? Honest and brutal please. > > Thanks. It's a white screen that says "Not Found The requested URL /photo/242720 was not found on this server. Apache/1.3.33 Server at photoforum.ru Port 80". I like that the script is off-centre, up to the left, as that adds to the dynamic tension. Extremely high contrast, but again, with an image of this genre, it works. At first I was asking myself what these words meant, but now I wonder if that's not important - it's all about confusion and discombobulation (sorry, Cotty) - as McLuhan would say, it's about the medium, not the message (or is that the massage?). I think this is one of your best, Boris. Well done! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: LCD hoods -- Chimping???
Glen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I had one photographer tease me about looking at my LCD after taking some >shots, but I don't consider what I did any different than a first-rate >advertising photographer shooting and inspecting a Polaroid preview image. >Some of the biggest names in the business shot Polaroid tests. In fact, it >was a mark of professionals, not amateurs. > >This particular photographer asked me what I would have done if I had been >shooting with my film camera. I said "I would have worried more about >whether I got the exact shot I wanted, had it been film. With digital, I >can know exactly when I have the shot I want and move on to something else. >It actually makes more efficient use of my time, to look at the capture." > >I don't consider what I do to be "chimping", as defined by that very fun >little video clip. As for the other photographer, I saw some of his shots >later. I think he should have checked his LCD more often. ;) Good points, all. I also have a problem with these web pages and video clips of photographers "chimping" because there's no way of telling if that's what the people pictured are actually doing: They could just as easily be viewing their histogram displays or changing camera settings via a menu system. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Help with Pixelation
On Dec 15, 2005, at 19:33, Jerome Reyes wrote: I'm a bit frustrated, and in need of some help with my website. In short: I scan a photo... no problem. I edit the photo... no problem. I save the photo with no problem. BUT THEN... I insert the same photo (which displays fine everywhere else) into the webpage via MS Frontpage, and bingo: severe pixelation (in the blue sky areas mostly). ding ding ding! I've been working with a server cluster for the past 4 months that is specifically designed to host Frontpage-generated websites. As a consequence I've had to work with Frontpage itself to test things. Aaaargh! What a frustrating piece of software to use. FP takes control and you hardly know what's happening as you are attempting to put a page together. I wouldn't doubt that it is "deciding" to present your photos in some "efficient" way that is messing up the resolution or the display of the image (such as, say, displaying an 800x600 image in a 500x300 window by just using a smaller frame). I'd suggest you try using some different software to design your website. there are a lot of FREE software packages out there that will design nice, neat, HTML-compliant pages. Howeverafter saying all that, I went and peeked at your example I can't see any problems at all in the sample you have provided. The sky looks clean and neat both when I view it in my browser and when I save it and use an 'external' viewer. Here's an example: http://www.exposedfilm.net/journal/seattle/10233mtr.htm So I'm puzzled about what you're seeing. It seems to me that it must be something with your browser? Try a few different browsers to see if the behavior is the same with all of them (or try viewing your site with someone else's computer). -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org
Re: Grand Canyon
"Don Sanderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I'm not as bad as you. >6 big guys and some strong tranquilisers >and they might get me out there. >If they could stand the screaming. ;-( > >Don (8 feet up is my limit.) You coming to Grandfather Mountain in June? I know some good photo spots. Just ask Frank If you could see the spot I where I was standing when I took this shot in Wales... http://www.robertstech.com/graphics/pages/7d005012.htm -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Grand Canyon / Heights
On 12/15/05, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Seen before by many in a previous PESO, but it fits the subject... taken not > far from the entrance to Grand Canyon NP. > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2977264 > > Tom C. For the benefit of those who haven't seen it already (I know I've posted it at least twice), here's Mark Roberts at Attic Window, near the peak of Grandfather Mountain, NC: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3434063 cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Grand Canyon / Heights
On 12/16/05, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For the benefit of those who haven't seen it already (I know I've > posted it at least twice), here's Mark Roberts at Attic Window, near > the peak of Grandfather Mountain, NC: > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3434063 > And again, taken seconds earlier (or was it later?): http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3434051&size=lg -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Grand Canyon
On 12/16/05, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You coming to Grandfather Mountain in June? I know some good photo > spots. Just ask Frank Like this? http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3434051&size=lg -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Grand Canyon
On 12/16/05, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Like this? > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3434051&size=lg > Or this? http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3434063 cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO - Surface Tension
Beautiful! I really like the ripples on the right, and the blurring of the rock about 2/3 of the way up. I am curious about how you shot it--with a polarizer to keep the reflections down? Rick --- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3931937 > > Tom C. > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: OT: Raising money for camera equipment.
On 12/16/05, Malcolm Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I want to buy a few lenses in the new year but I want to sell items I'm not > using (or ever used in this case) to fund it. I have no idea if there is any > value in these and I can't sell them on eBay as it appears that evaluation > software and the like isn't listable. Anyway, I have a couple of hundred > Microsoft MSDN CDs covering a huge variety of their products from 1997 to > 2001, some from a Technet(?) subscription, which were given to me but never > used. Do they have any value and where would you sell them? If they have > value, I'll make a note of exactly what I have. > I have no idea that these things are, so they certainly have no value to me... Perhaps to the right geek...(I'm a geek, just not a computer geek - were that the case, I might be a rich geek) cheers, etc, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: AA bis
- Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I was going to tell you that you are full of shit, but I think it is enough to say that I think you are quite wrong. What the hell is creative in standing in another person tripod holes? You seem to miss the point. This is the equivalent of putting a piece of transparent paper over a Picasso and trace the drawing underneath. You learn nothing from it. This is not about paying homage to an artist but pure plagiarism. To pay homage you could find another mountain. Another moon rise, and try to make something Ansel may have done if he was in your place. The "photographers" on the image is the most patethic bunch of sad bastards I've ever seen. Pål
Re: Pentax 645 system site???
- Original Message - From: "Sylwester Pietrzyk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> does anybody know site with comprehensive 645 information about bodies, lenses, accessories? Something like KMP??? I was searching for that, but couldn't find anything :-( TIA for any help! :-) Is there anything in particular you want to know? I've got a pretty good overview in my head Pål
RE: OT: Raising money for camera equipment.
frank theriault wrote: > I have no idea that these things are, so they certainly have > no value to me... > > > > Perhaps to the right geek...(I'm a geek, just not a > computer geek - were that the case, I might be a rich geek) If they are, I get a bit of cash, if not, I feel some shelf space coming back...:-) Malcolm
Re: PAD - photo a day
Alkos, Excellent work, amazing group of images. I'll be visiting everyday for sure! I added youe site to my flaneur' links too. Regards Albano Garcia Photography & Graphic Design http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar http://www.flaneur.com.ar __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO - Surface Tension
On 12/15/05, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3931937 > > Tom C. Gorgeous! Love the bright colours against the grey rocks/water. Nicely composed and framed. I love it! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: AA bis
- Original Message - From: "Pål Jensen" Subject: Re: AA bis - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I was going to tell you that you are full of shit, but I think it is enough to say that I think you are quite wrong. What the hell is creative in standing in another person tripod holes? You seem to miss the point. This is the equivalent of putting a piece of transparent paper over a Picasso and trace the drawing underneath. You learn nothing from it. This is not about paying homage to an artist but pure plagiarism. To pay homage you could find another mountain. Another moon rise, and try to make something Ansel may have done if he was in your place. The "photographers" on the image is the most patethic bunch of sad bastards I've ever seen. Whatever. If you knew anything about AA's working process from start to finish, you would have shut up about five posts ago. William Robb
Re: AA bis
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: AA bis I don't disagree that copying of the masters may be important when you are in the process of learning a craft, but creativity is where you start to differ, to make your own expression. Strict copying is the opposite of creativity. Getting inspiration from previous works may be part of a creative process. Generally, I would agree with you. AA's process of going from scene to print was complicated enough that anyone wanting to "copy" his work (in the context of the original post) is going to show a lot of creative work to get anywhere near what AA was doing. If you are familiar with his working process, you would understand. To give up and say that everything is done is just (call it whatever you want). I was making a quip in relation to rather idiotic European copyright law. Carried to the logical extreme... I did the same thing in relation to a rather moronic Texan law a while back. Carried to the logical extreme... William Robb
Re: Grand Canyon
On Dec 16, 2005, at 2:35 AM, David Mann wrote: Well, not after it breaks anyway.Glass is very heavy and there doesn't seem to be much support for that bridge structure. I doubt they'd use glass. Lexan or some similar transparent acrylic is more likely. Bob
RE: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas
Jens, Thanks...I think(?) Your "great color" remark may be in support of those who actually like Velvia's color pallet. This image was put up, per Kostas' request, and as an example of why I dislike Velvia. This shot was probably on my first roll of Velvia and one of the reasons I discontinued its use. A roll or two later, my gag threshold warned me to stop. I'm truly grateful for the positive remarks. Jack --- Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is very nice, Jack. Great colours. Great picture. > Regards > Jens > > Jens Bladt > http://www.jensbladt.dk > > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > Fra: Jack Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sendt: 10. december 2005 21:23 > Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Emne: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas > > > PLEASE BE RIGHT THIS TIME!! > > Kostas, here is the example of Velvia you requested. Forgot link and > was wrong in a second attempt. > You may have read my comments in the earlier attempt. > > Jack > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=96 > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: OT: Raising money for camera equipment.
The CDs are supposed to be destroyed when/if the subscription expires. I think. But don't take my word for it, you'd better check. Don W Malcolm Smith wrote: frank theriault wrote: I have no idea that these things are, so they certainly have no value to me... Perhaps to the right geek...(I'm a geek, just not a computer geek - were that the case, I might be a rich geek) If they are, I get a bit of cash, if not, I feel some shelf space coming back...:-) Malcolm -- Dr E D F Williams ___ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams See feature: The Cement Company from Hell Updated: Print Gallery-- 16 11 2005
Re: AA bis
- Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If you knew anything about AA's working process from start to finish, you would have shut up about five posts ago. I know enough after owning and reading his three books the camera, the negative and the print This isn't about technique but the creative process of taking an image. The are litterally billions of images not yet shot, many of them surpassing what Ansel did. Why not try to shoot on of those? You'll never be a good photographer by copying someone elses work. You may learn technique but that can be learned without copying the creative process. I read somewhere a story about images submitted to National Geographic. They were all carbon copies of well known images from well known photographers shot in the very tripod holes in the "same" light. They were all returned with a stern note that they were all crap in spite of being technically perfect. Pål
Re: AA bis
In a message dated 12/16/2005 6:23:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What the hell is creative in standing in another person tripod holes? You seem to miss the point. This is the equivalent of putting a piece of transparent paper over a Picasso and trace the drawing underneath. You learn nothing from it. This is not about paying homage to an artist but pure plagiarism. To pay homage you could find another mountain. Another moon rise, and try to make something Ansel may have done if he was in your place. The "photographers" on the image is the most patethic bunch of sad bastards I've ever seen. Pål === Pal, don't be silly. A photogapher doesn't own a particular spot in nature. A particular place they parked their tripod. Another photographer can park their tripod in the exact same place, but it is unlikley they will get the exact same shot. A little more is involved than that. Like skill, vision, etc. Marnie aka Doe
Re: AA bis
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Pal, don't be silly. A photogapher doesn't own a particular spot in nature. A particular place they parked their tripod. Another photographer can park their tripod in the exact same place, but it is unlikley they will get the exact same shot. A little more is involved than that. Sure, like no author owns a story line. Even persons names. You could always write the same book over again by using (slightly) different words. The permutation must be endless. Still, the first book reviewer (if you get it published at all) will probably call it worthless and name the author a sad, pathetic bastard. Pål
Re: Re: Grand Canyon
> > From: Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2005/12/16 Fri PM 02:50:17 GMT > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: Grand Canyon > > > On Dec 16, 2005, at 2:35 AM, David Mann wrote: > > > Well, not after it breaks anyway.Glass is very heavy and there > > doesn't seem to be much support for that bridge structure. > > > I doubt they'd use glass. Lexan or some similar transparent acrylic > is more likely. > In either case, you would be unlikely to walk on the transparent material. For it would rapidly (at varying rates, depending on the material) become opaque. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: AA bis
In a message dated 12/16/2005 7:06:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Pal, don't be silly. A photogapher doesn't own a particular spot in > nature. A > particular place they parked their tripod. Another photographer can park > their tripod in the exact same place, but it is unlikley they will get the > exact > same shot. A little more is involved than that. Sure, like no author owns a story line. Even persons names. You could always write the same book over again by using (slightly) different words. The permutation must be endless. Still, the first book reviewer (if you get it published at all) will probably call it worthless and name the author a sad, pathetic bastard. Pål === I don't see it as the same thing at all -- tripod spot and story line. Although boy gets girl boy loses girl boy gets girl -- if you are broad and inclusive enough when talking about a story line --- sure. I think someone said once there are only seven different stories anyway. It's what you do with it. Marnie aka Doe
Re: AA bis
I would forgive someone from using the same tripod holes, especially if accidental. When I gaze at Yosemite Valley, I tend to put myself in an AA scene. I look for something to happen atmospherically that will add drama. I don't consider being shown a potential location in which I might capture a successful nature shot, as an extension of copying. If I could live in Yosemite Valley for 40 years, I'd likely discover more of my own locations. Jack --- Pål Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > I was going to tell you that you are full of shit, but I think it > is > > enough to say that I think you are quite wrong. > > > What the hell is creative in standing in another person tripod holes? > You seem to miss the point. This is the equivalent of putting a piece > of > transparent paper over a Picasso and trace the drawing underneath. > You learn > nothing from it. This is not about paying homage to an artist but > pure > plagiarism. To pay homage you could find another mountain. Another > moon > rise, and try to make something Ansel may have done if he was in your > place. > The "photographers" on the image is the most patethic bunch of sad > bastards > I've ever seen. > > Pål > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Re: AA bis
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: 2005/12/16 Fri PM 03:12:07 GMT > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: AA bis > > In a message dated 12/16/2005 7:06:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Pal, don't be silly. A photogapher doesn't own a particular spot in > > nature. A > > particular place they parked their tripod. Another photographer can park > > their tripod in the exact same place, but it is unlikley they will get the > > exact > > same shot. A little more is involved than that. > > > Sure, like no author owns a story line. Even persons names. You could always > write the same book over again by using (slightly) different words. The > permutation must be endless. Still, the first book reviewer (if you get it > published at all) will probably call it worthless and name the author a sad, > pathetic bastard. > > > Pål > === > I don't see it as the same thing at all -- tripod spot and story line. > Although boy gets girl boy loses girl boy gets girl -- if you are broad and > inclusive enough when talking about a story line --- sure. I think someone > said once > there are only seven different stories anyway. How many "different" photographs? > > It's what you do with it. > > Marnie aka Doe > > - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: AA bis
Exactly! Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 12/16/2005 6:23:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > What the hell is creative in standing in another person tripod holes? > You seem to miss the point. This is the equivalent of putting a piece > of > transparent paper over a Picasso and trace the drawing underneath. > You learn > nothing from it. This is not about paying homage to an artist but > pure > plagiarism. To pay homage you could find another mountain. Another > moon > rise, and try to make something Ansel may have done if he was in your > place. > The "photographers" on the image is the most patethic bunch of sad > bastards > I've ever seen. > > Pål > === > Pal, don't be silly. A photogapher doesn't own a particular spot in > nature. A > particular place they parked their tripod. Another photographer can > park > their tripod in the exact same place, but it is unlikley they will > get the exact > same shot. A little more is involved than that. > > Like skill, vision, etc. > > Marnie aka Doe > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Grand Canyon
In a message dated 12/16/2005 7:10:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > On Dec 16, 2005, at 2:35 AM, David Mann wrote: > > > Well, not after it breaks anyway.Glass is very heavy and there > > doesn't seem to be much support for that bridge structure. > > > I doubt they'd use glass. Lexan or some similar transparent acrylic > is more likely. > In either case, you would be unlikely to walk on the transparent material. For it would rapidly (at varying rates, depending on the material) become opaque. === Good pt. In addition to never wanting to walk on the thing (too high), I do wonder about the safety. But I presume they have figured that out -- a safe way to do it. I don't think anyone would be stupid enough to risk a major disaster at a national park (bridge falls with 100-200 people on it). Very, very bad PR. Although maybe I am being naive. A local waterworld had a water slide collapse about ten years ago, with seven students on it. One killed, one or two others seriously injured, I think one was going to be in a wheelchair for life. They said the kids exceeded the posted safety limit (number of people) for the slide. (They had, they'd piled on each other.) And they are still in business today. Brisk business in hot weather. I felt their claim was rather besides the point, they should have had someone monitoring the slides. Marnie aka Doe
Re: AA bis
In a message dated 12/16/2005 7:18:37 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think someone said once > there are only seven different stories anyway. How many "different" photographs? Hehehehe. Good question. Marnie aka Doe
Re: AA bis
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: I don't see it as the same thing at all -- tripod spot and story line. Although boy gets girl boy loses girl boy gets girl -- if you are broad and inclusive enough when talking about a story line --- sure. I think someone said once there are only seven different stories anyway. My point is that this goes far beyond that. These people try to recreate the exact image. To the extent of standing in the same tripod holes, exactly the same light; exactly the same time of day - they even try to get the moon in exactly the same place in the sky! Theres nothing wrong trying to shoot varioations of this scene - even stanting near or in the tripod holes. But this is obviously something else. Pål
Re: AA bis
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 4:24 PM Subject: Re: AA bis In a message dated 12/16/2005 7:18:37 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think someone said once there are only seven different stories anyway. How many "different" photographs? Hehehehe. Good question. There are endless photographs. There are even endless photo oportunities that would appear similar to Adams work even by including personal vision from the photographers. There are no point in copying unless you are really sad. There are endless number of mountan ridges and moon rises globally and even locally. Pål
Re: AA bis
In a message dated 12/16/2005 7:28:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My point is that this goes far beyond that. These people try to recreate the exact image. To the extent of standing in the same tripod holes, exactly the same light; exactly the same time of day - they even try to get the moon in exactly the same place in the sky! Theres nothing wrong trying to shoot varioations of this scene - even stanting near or in the tripod holes. But this is obviously something else. Pål Yes, it's trying to duplicate the master. Do you seriously imagine anyone succeeded? Got a shot that looked exactly like his? But I bet they learned a lot in the process. And some probably turned out some very fine shots. Truly creative people don't worry about stealing overmuch. Look at all the painters that said they stole. Why did they say that? Because there are only so many images, so many ideas. And they were secure in their own creativity and style and skill enough to know what they turned out was unique anyway. As everything each of us turns out is unique. In its own way. Marnie aka Doe
Re: AA bis
On 16/12/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: >Although boy gets girl boy loses girl boy gets girl Boy gets girl, boy lose girl, boy turns into girl ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: B+H
On 16/12/05, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: >Trollpost. Thanks, I deserved that. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO - Surface Tension
I like its overall feeling. Placid, cool and fresh. The leaf distribution, while very well composed, seems somewhat "staged". PICKY ALERT: The yellow leaves lack detail and those other leaves are, to me, an odd "un-natural" tone. Probably my lack of awareness. May have somthing to do with the handling and up-load. Very homogeneous and could use an "anchor". Mossy rock, small water fall..something. Jack --- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > LOL! Thanks Jack! Happy to hear you like the eveness of the the > leaves. > Did you actually LIKE the image? No Pinko-Commy Digital Velvia was > applied. > LOL again. Thanks. > > Tom C. > > > > > >From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > >To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > >Subject: Re: PESO - Surface Tension > >Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:13:55 -0800 (PST) > > > >Very even leaf distribution. > >I was about to comment about the colors, but thought better of > it.;-]] > > > >Jack > > > > > >--- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3931937 > > > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO - A Quiet Moment
In a message dated 12/14/2005 5:25:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Bruce. Looks a tad flat at my end. However. I like the pose and OOF background. Her eyes are gorgeous. Dave It's a nice portrait, her eyes look nice, but actually I am bothered by how much mascara her eyes. Marnie aka Doe Just me.
Re: PESO: Wall Flower
In a message dated 12/14/2005 11:59:48 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One of the detail pics from my bedroom shoot. Two monolights. Fill at minus one stop. FA 50/1.4 on the *istD f10 @ 1/60 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3950383 === Interesting shot, Paul. Not really my sort of thing, but the wall mirror makes it quite interesting. Marnie aka Doe
Re: PAD - photo a day
From: alkos I'd like to present you my site - http://pad.go.pl Alkos-- Man, you are *good* -- what a great eye you have. Thanks very much for sharing. *>UncaMikey
PESO - Together (More Hands)
I decided to use the Mom hands theme for our Xmas newsletter. We do one each year and stick it into the cards. In other words, I don't make cards out of it, its a insert. Only I added my hand. I don't think it's entirely successful, but I was under a time limit, I wanted to finish the newsletter up yesterday and get it mailed yesterday. So we did this Wednesday afternoon after the light had changed for the worse. Because it was overcast and I had poor ambient light I used my Canon 50mm at 1.8, which meant shallow DOF. Anyway, I liked the idea, so I am going to try it again (in better light when I can get it). I don't think it's too bad. Sort of looks like I was crunching her hand, but it was a comfortable pose actually. Though a tad hard to do. I gave up on tripoding it too, that was just too darn difficult. ;-) http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/together.htm Marnie aka Doe
Re: PESO: Wall Flower
Thanks Marnie. -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > In a message dated 12/14/2005 11:59:48 AM Pacific Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > One of the detail pics from my bedroom shoot. Two monolights. Fill at minus > one stop. FA 50/1.4 on the *istD f10 @ 1/60 > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3950383 > === > Interesting shot, Paul. Not really my sort of thing, but the wall mirror > makes it quite interesting. > > Marnie aka Doe >
RE: OT: Raising money for camera equipment.
Don Williams wrote: > The CDs are supposed to be destroyed > when/if the subscription expires. I > think. But don't take my word for it, > you'd better check. OK, thanks. I get more shelf space then! Regards, Malcolm
Closure of more Pentax branches?
I've heard that Pentax UK is closing down too. Any confirmation? Dario
Re: Help with Pixelation
Charles Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I've been working with a server cluster for the past 4 months that is >specifically designed to host Frontpage-generated websites. As a >consequence I've had to work with Frontpage itself to test things. >Aaaargh! What a frustrating piece of software to use. FP takes >control and you hardly know what's happening as you are attempting to >put a page together. I wouldn't doubt that it is "deciding" to >present your photos in some "efficient" way that is messing up the >resolution or the display of the image (such as, say, displaying an >800x600 image in a 500x300 window by just using a smaller frame). > >I'd suggest you try using some different software to design your >website. there are a lot of FREE software packages out there >that will design nice, neat, HTML-compliant pages. Charles is 100% correct on this one. Jerome, you have a PhD in Engineering fer cryin' out loud: You *are* smart enough to learn how to write HTML! ...or at least smart enough to find a better HTML tool ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Peso - Something in the tree
On 12/15/05, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And it's not a kitten. > > http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/channel/50/extra/new/display/4577955 > Wild!!! All the best. -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO - Start the day (or Coffee, Juice, Sigarette)
In a message dated 12/15/2005 10:59:03 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi! http://www.photoforum.ru/photo/242720 Hope I am getting out of my yet another dry spell. What do you say? Honest and brutal please. Thanks. Boris Getting a 404 not found. Marnie aka Doe
Santa's Coming
Big Bertha (F* 600 F4) still needs a gimbal head. I have been balking at the price of a bottom-mount Wimberly. The side-mount Kirk is about $100 less, but in the end I could not reconcile myself to mounting this heavy lens sideways. With my back problems and occasional awkwardness, this struck me as something I would have trouble with each and every time I used it. On top of that, I was put off by Kirk. I e-mailed some questions, and the reply I got back was to call their 800 number--which of course would mean a sales pitch. What to do? On eBay, used bottom-mount Wimberleys, scratched but claimed to be otherwise okay, have recently been going for $493-$494. That's idiotic. A new one goes for $565. I have seen one actually go for more than the new price. The Wimberley Sidekick (another side-mount type) has been going for just a few dollars less than new. At those prices, why bother with a used one? The upshot: A Jobu Black Widow Heavy Duty gimbal head is on its way from Toronto via Canada ExpressPost. Here's hoping it gets hear by Christmas. It is the bottom-mount kind. (They also make a side mount that is less expensive than the Kirk.) It is $56 less than the price of a new Wimberley. That's not enormous, but money is tight after buying Big Bertha. Better yet, at $509 it is only $15-$16 more than the price of scratched-but-serviceable Wimberleys on eBay. What's more, the owner responded to my e-mails very quickly. A Wimberley P-50 plate is coming from B&H. Jobu's owner was fascinated by my lens. Said he'd never seen one. Never had a Pentax customer, for that matter. He says that 90% of his sales are to Canon owners, 9% to Nikon, and the rest to other brands. Bertha will soon be fully accessorized. Next year I'll ask Santa for the Sherpa. And more time for photography. Joe
Re: Grand Canyon
frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 12/16/05, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Like this? >> >> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3434051&size=lg > >Or this? > >http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3434063 Ever been up the CN Tower in Toronto? (You're a local, so the answer's probably "no" ) They have a section with glass floor so you can look straight down - 113 stories. Anyway, even though I'm not generally nervous about heights (see Frank's photos) I can say that it definitely creeped me out to walk on it. http://www.canadacool.com/COOLFACTS/ONTARIO/TorontoCNTower.html http://www.thecanadapage.org/images/CNT_10.JPG -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Link to pictures of some of the equipment for sale
here is the link to the pics for most of these items. I will try to shoot the remaining ones later today... thanks http://homepage.mac.com/sonpix/vicspages/PhotoAlbum36.html I've got too much stuff that is not getting used enough so it's time to put it up for sale. I like to offer it to the PDML first and then move whatever is left to ebay. I live in Canada so everything will originate out of Canada near Toronto for anyone local enough to want to purchase the goodies face to face. I will try to put photographs up on my website later today... I have a good idea what I want for these items so, if you are interested, make me an offer please. - LX camera with winder and grip (the large wooden-like one) and Beatie intenscreen. close to mint condition. I've had four LXs. This one was rarely used. - M28mm f3.5 - excellent condition -30mm f2.8 - as most of you know this is a very rare and highly sought after lens both for its unique FOV and it's very high quality. This lens is in excellent to mint condition and comes with it's original leatherette case. - 100mm M F4 dental macro in excellent condition. I also have the very rare dental closeup kit that works very nicely with this lens. It is extremely convenient to use with its magnetic attachments. For anyone who is not aware of this kit, I will try to get pictures up so you can see it. See Bojidor's example here: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/ - M 75-150mm F4 zoom excellent condition - a nice light compact zoom for the hiker or mtn. biker. The quality on these zooms are considered very good. FA70-200mm f4-5.6 - Excellent condition. Great zoom especially for PZ owners. Includes power zoom capabilities. Comes with original box caps etc. FA 100-300 F4.5/F5.6 - Another power zoom (all black) version of this lens. Excellent condition. Comes in original box. FA 28-200mm F3.8/5.6 pentax zoom. Mint condition. Original box and packaging. Pentax FA 28-105 power zoom lens. This is the really good 28-105 everyone on this list talks about. It's the black one. I have two of these lenses. This particular ones is mint. still in the box.. Tokina ATX 100-300 F4 - An excellent performer with ED glass, tripod mount. Very solid lens. A setting makes it ideal for digital or 35mm cameras. Excellent condition. Complete with leatherette case. Nikon No.6T closeup atachment lens. For those who know of these (Canon aslo makes a line of these high end closeup filters) they are of top notch quality. Mint -still in the box Nikon 3T closeup lens, Used primarily on the Pentax 100-300 for closeups Excellent. Vivitar 7-element 2X macro converter. Excellent condition.
FS: EX- LX body (not Shel's!), FA-1W finder, Grip B, strap lugs
This isn't the lovely LX I purchased from Shel a couple of months ago -- this is a second LX I ended up with as a result of having pursued two LX's at the same time. I can't really justify keeping one just as a backup body, though, so I'm putting the less minty one up for sale. This is an EX- LX body in very nice shape (plastic covering still on the bottom plate) that has seen some use but works fine. The previous owner said it had been serviced sometime in 2004. No sticky mirror or other signs of problems. Only minor signs of body wear, such as the brass showing through the sharp edges on the mirror lockup button. The included finder is the FA-1W, which has slightly lower magnification than the FA-1 (0.8-0.88 instead of 0.9), but that's due to the greater extent of diopter correction built in (-3 to +1). See http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/focusing/viewfinders/index.html for details on this finder. Includes the SA-23 focusing screen, which is the one with the microprism circle with greater angles on the facets, optimized for use and critical focusing for lenses f/2.8 and faster. The body includes a Grip B and two locking strap lugs. It will ship with a body cap. ASA goes to 3200 on this body. Price: $400, includes shipping to addresses in the continental U.S. Photos available on request. If you'd like a lens with this body, I can offer deals on including an SMC-M 50mm f/1.4, an SMC-M 50mm f/1.7 or the SMC-M 35mm f/2. Joe -- Joe Wilensky Editor, Cornell Chronicle News Editor Cornell News Service 312 College Ave. Ithaca, NY 14850 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (607) 255-3630 phone/voice mail (607) 255-5373 fax http://www.news.cornell.edu/
Re: AA bis
"William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >AA's process of going from scene to print >was complicated enough that anyone wanting to "copy" his work (in the >context of the original post) is going to show a lot of creative work to get >anywhere near what AA was doing. BTW: In his will, Ansel Adams specifically stated that the university to which he was bequeathing his negatives *must* permit students to make prints from them. I really like that attitude. He didn't want his stuff locked away in a vault, but wanted to see it used further the education of future generations of photographers. (I suspect he also wanted them to find out there's a lot more to making a fine photo graph than getting your tripod feet set up in the right holes!) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Grand Canyon
On 12/16/05, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ever been up the CN Tower in Toronto? (You're a local, so the answer's > probably "no" ) They have a section with glass floor so you can look > straight down - 113 stories. Anyway, even though I'm not generally > nervous about heights (see Frank's photos) I can say that it definitely > creeped me out to walk on it. > > http://www.canadacool.com/COOLFACTS/ONTARIO/TorontoCNTower.html > http://www.thecanadapage.org/images/CNT_10.JPG > Well, actually, yes, I have been up since they put in the plexiglass floor. It was a bit eerie, but after about 10 seconds your mind wraps around the fact that you're not going to plummet to your death, and it's kinda cool!! I felt totally secure. And, in answer to someone who wondered if the glass floor of the Grand Canyon thing would become translucent or even opaque, the one up the CN Tower seems fine. Some small scratches, but I guess they must buff 'em out on a regular basis... Don't show the shot of me clinging to the GFM rock, eh Mark? I wasn't really that nervous, except when I had to travers that little rock gully that, if one slipped, went down about 200 feet on a 45 degree angle. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO - Start the day (or Coffee, Juice, Sigarette)
frank theriault wrote: On 12/15/05, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi! http://www.photoforum.ru/photo/242720 Hope I am getting out of my yet another dry spell. What do you say? Honest and brutal please. Thanks. It's a white screen that says "Not Found The requested URL /photo/242720 was not found on this server. Apache/1.3.33 Server at photoforum.ru Port 80". I like that the script is off-centre, up to the left, as that adds to the dynamic tension. Extremely high contrast, but again, with an image of this genre, it works. At first I was asking myself what these words meant, but now I wonder if that's not important - it's all about confusion and discombobulation (sorry, Cotty) - as McLuhan would say, it's about the medium, not the message (or is that the massage?). I think this is one of your best, Boris. Well done! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson Wise Ass. -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: PESO - Surface Tension
Well the placement of the leaves definitely was not staged. They were in a pool at the base of a small waterfall. The water circulaiton was such that they just kept moving round and round in the same general area without floating downstream. If they weren't so evenly placed then someone would say that the picture was unbalanced or that the stray leaf was a distraction, right? :-) It's Bougainvillea leaves and petals. The source was loaded with pink/fuschia petals. Tom C. From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Surface Tension Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:39:02 -0800 (PST) I like its overall feeling. Placid, cool and fresh. The leaf distribution, while very well composed, seems somewhat "staged". PICKY ALERT: The yellow leaves lack detail and those other leaves are, to me, an odd "un-natural" tone. Probably my lack of awareness. May have somthing to do with the handling and up-load. Very homogeneous and could use an "anchor". Mossy rock, small water fall..something. Jack --- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > LOL! Thanks Jack! Happy to hear you like the eveness of the the > leaves. > Did you actually LIKE the image? No Pinko-Commy Digital Velvia was > applied. > LOL again. Thanks. > > Tom C. > > > > > >From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > >To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > >Subject: Re: PESO - Surface Tension > >Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:13:55 -0800 (PST) > > > >Very even leaf distribution. > >I was about to comment about the colors, but thought better of > it.;-]] > > > >Jack > > > > > >--- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3931937 > > > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO - Start the day (or Coffee, Juice, Sigarette)
Hi! I think this is one of your best, Boris. Well done! Thanks... Though I didn't receive your reply in my mailbox... Very strange... As you can see it is a citation from another person's response... Please try this URL: http://www.photo-forum.ru/photo/242720/index.en.html PhotoForum is hickupping. Sorry. Boris
Re: PESO - Surface Tension
Thanks Rick. No polarizer. I broke the one I wish I had at this time while I was in Alaska (dropped out of my hand onto the deck of the boat, sproinged apart, now I forget where I put the pieces. I did have some sots with reflections. I just moved from left to right until the angle was such that they disappeared. Thanks for commenting. Tom C. From: Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Surface Tension Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:16:43 -0800 (PST) Beautiful! I really like the ripples on the right, and the blurring of the rock about 2/3 of the way up. I am curious about how you shot it--with a polarizer to keep the reflections down? Rick --- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3931937 > > Tom C. > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO - Surface Tension
LOL Bob! Tom C. From: Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Surface Tension Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:02:43 -0600 Tom, That's more correctly stated as Commy-Pinko-Leftist-Socialist-Democrat. Bob S. On 12/15/05, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > LOL! Thanks Jack! Happy to hear you like the eveness of the the leaves. > Did you actually LIKE the image? No Pinko-Commy Digital Velvia was applied. > LOL again. Thanks. > > Tom C. > > > > > >From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > >To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > >Subject: Re: PESO - Surface Tension > >Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:13:55 -0800 (PST) > > > >Very even leaf distribution. > >I was about to comment about the colors, but thought better of it.;-]] > > > >Jack > > > > > >--- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3931937 > > > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > >
Re: PESO - Start the day (or Coffee, Juice, Sigarette)
In a message dated 12/16/2005 9:18:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >It's a white screen that says "Not Found >The requested URL /photo/242720 was not found on this server. >Apache/1.3.33 Server at photoforum.ru Port 80". I like that the >script is off-centre, up to the left, as that adds to the dynamic >tension. Extremely high contrast, but again, with an image of this >genre, it works. > >At first I was asking myself what these words meant, but now I wonder >if that's not important - it's all about confusion and >discombobulation (sorry, Cotty) - as McLuhan would say, it's about the >medium, not the message (or is that the massage?). > >I think this is one of your best, Boris. Well done! > >cheers, >frank = I think you have just proved you can effectively critique anything, frank. Hehehehehe. Marnie aka Doe
RE: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas
Well this cracks me up Jack... won't rub it in though... I promise. :-) Tom C. From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:52:20 -0800 (PST) Jens, Thanks...I think(?) Your "great color" remark may be in support of those who actually like Velvia's color pallet. This image was put up, per Kostas' request, and as an example of why I dislike Velvia. This shot was probably on my first roll of Velvia and one of the reasons I discontinued its use. A roll or two later, my gag threshold warned me to stop. I'm truly grateful for the positive remarks. Jack --- Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is very nice, Jack. Great colours. Great picture. > Regards > Jens > > Jens Bladt > http://www.jensbladt.dk > > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > Fra: Jack Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sendt: 10. december 2005 21:23 > Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Emne: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas > > > PLEASE BE RIGHT THIS TIME!! > > Kostas, here is the example of Velvia you requested. Forgot link and > was wrong in a second attempt. > You may have read my comments in the earlier attempt. > > Jack > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=96 > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Grand Canyon
If it's going to be clear, most acrylics scratch much too easily. Synthetic sapphire, yea that's the way to go, cast in one piece. Bob Shell wrote: On Dec 16, 2005, at 2:35 AM, David Mann wrote: Well, not after it breaks anyway.Glass is very heavy and there doesn't seem to be much support for that bridge structure. I doubt they'd use glass. Lexan or some similar transparent acrylic is more likely. Bob -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: PESO - Start the day (or Coffee, Juice, Sigarette)
Hi! I think you have just proved you can effectively critique anything, frank. Hehehehehe. Marnie, the man is a lawyer by education... ;-)... I suppose I can produce a math looking sentence out of (almost) everything... I have half mathist half comp-sci'nic... Boris
Re: AA bis
Not just evil... Cotty wrote: On 16/12/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: Although boy gets girl boy loses girl boy gets girl Boy gets girl, boy lose girl, boy turns into girl ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: Closure of more Pentax branches?
Hi Dario, A few weeks ago, there was a rumour on an online forum about Pentax UK closing but it was not true. Apparently, Pentax UK re-arranged the sales team to reflect the changes in the market, but the number of staff remained the same as before. Colin > Original Message > > Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:44:38 +0100 > From: "Dario Bonazza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Subject: Closure of more Pentax branches? > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > format=flowed; > charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I've heard that Pentax UK is closing down too. > Any confirmation? > > Dario ___ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com
Re: PESO - Surface Tension
Tom C wrote:
Thanks Rick. No polarizer. I broke the one I wish I had at this time
while I was in Alaska (dropped out of my hand onto the deck of the boat,
sproinged apart, now I forget where I put the pieces. I did have some
sots with reflections. I just moved from left to right until the angle
was such that they disappeared. Thanks for commenting.
Tom C.
Hi Tom,
I've observed that at the right stage of sotted-ness, ol' sots can meld
into reflectiveness at the drop of a hat. {...snifff...}
And like The Cheshire cat's smile, they often disappear without warning!
Look under the tables, in the gents, etc.
Glad to be of help... ^[hic]^
keith whaley
Re: Grand Canyon
"P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >If it's going to be clear, most acrylics scratch much too easily. >Synthetic sapphire, yea that's the way to go, cast in one piece. In case you're interested, here's the "formula" they use for the glass floor of the CN tower: Layers, from the top down: * 3/16" scuff plate (replaced annually) * Two 1/2" layers of clear tempered glass, laminated together * A one inch layer of air (for insulation) * Two 1/4" layers of clear tempered glass, laminated together Size of each panel: 42" by 50" Load tests are performed annually on each panel to ensure safety. Designed to support 38,556 kg. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: PESO - Surface Tension
Tom, Thanks for the clarification of leaf and stream conditions. I understand, exactly, your reason for choosing a balanced leaf distribution for this pic. Sometimes we grab what is given us and decide later if we're happy with it. This image will offend no one and, in fact, as mentioned earlier, has a pleasing feeling about it. My comments were based on what I felt would have improved it. Perhaps it's pointless musing, but it was my answer to your question. Jack --- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well the placement of the leaves definitely was not staged. They > were in a > pool at the base of a small waterfall. The water circulaiton was > such that > they just kept moving round and round in the same general area > without > floating downstream. If they weren't so evenly placed then someone > would > say that the picture was unbalanced or that the stray leaf was a > distraction, right? :-) > > It's Bougainvillea leaves and petals. The source was loaded with > pink/fuschia petals. > > Tom C. > > > > > >From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > >To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > >Subject: Re: PESO - Surface Tension > >Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:39:02 -0800 (PST) > > > >I like its overall feeling. Placid, cool and fresh. > >The leaf distribution, while very well composed, seems somewhat > >"staged". > >PICKY ALERT: The yellow leaves lack detail and those other leaves > are, > >to me, an odd "un-natural" tone. Probably my lack of awareness. May > >have somthing to do with the handling and up-load. > >Very homogeneous and could use an "anchor". Mossy rock, small water > >fall..something. > > > >Jack > > > >--- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > LOL! Thanks Jack! Happy to hear you like the eveness of the the > > > leaves. > > > Did you actually LIKE the image? No Pinko-Commy Digital Velvia > was > > > applied. > > > LOL again. Thanks. > > > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > > > >To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > > > >Subject: Re: PESO - Surface Tension > > > >Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:13:55 -0800 (PST) > > > > > > > >Very even leaf distribution. > > > >I was about to comment about the colors, but thought better of > > > it.;-]] > > > > > > > >Jack > > > > > > > > > > > >--- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3931937 > > > > > > > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__ > > > >Do You Yahoo!? > > > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas
OKAY! So there is someone else color challenged. Actually, I still don't know if Jens was being facetious. I don't think he's responded to my remarks. Jack --- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well this cracks me up Jack... won't rub it in though... I promise. > :-) > > Tom C. > > > > > >From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > >To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > >Subject: RE: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas > >Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:52:20 -0800 (PST) > > > >Jens, > >Thanks...I think(?) > >Your "great color" remark may be in support of those who actually > like > >Velvia's color pallet. This image was put up, per Kostas' request, > and > >as an example of why I dislike Velvia. This shot was probably on my > >first roll of Velvia and one of the reasons I discontinued its use. > A > >roll or two later, my gag threshold warned me to stop. > >I'm truly grateful for the positive remarks. > > > >Jack > > > > > > > > > >--- Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > This is very nice, Jack. Great colours. Great picture. > > > Regards > > > Jens > > > > > > Jens Bladt > > > http://www.jensbladt.dk > > > > > > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > > > Fra: Jack Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sendt: 10. december 2005 21:23 > > > Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > > > Emne: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas > > > > > > > > > PLEASE BE RIGHT THIS TIME!! > > > > > > Kostas, here is the example of Velvia you requested. Forgot link > and > > > was wrong in a second attempt. > > > You may have read my comments in the earlier attempt. > > > > > > Jack > > > > > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=96 > > > > > > __ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Grand Canyon
frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Don't show the shot of me clinging to the GFM rock, eh Mark? I wasn't >really that nervous, except when I had to travers that little rock >gully that, if one slipped, went down about 200 feet on a 45 degree >angle. http://www.robertstech.com/temp/pages/gfm0528.htm http://www.robertstech.com/temp/pages/gfm0529.htm -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas
- Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 7:25 PM Subject: RE: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas OKAY! So there is someone else color challenged. Personally, I think anyone liking ProviaF to be color challenged. In my color vision that film is truly bizarre. I find Velvia saturated but accurate in the way that it doesn't display colors that wasn't there. Kodachrome is also weird but I eventually learned to believe that the world was supposed to look Kodachrome-like after being exposed to it for years through the printed media. I just don't buy that argument that Velvia is different from other films in picturing "reality". It is a matter of taste. Galen Rowell: "The truth is that a film can no more match the way our visual system constructs color than a silicon chip can match the way our carbon-based brain cells construct consciousness." Pål
PESO x3 Why I still use film...
Resolution if I need it, tonality, and the soft unsharpness in the out of focus areas. http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=209002 http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=209653 http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=210072 Sorry, no Pentax in sight, only an old Bronica SQ-A with PS 180mm, PS40mm and PS 180mm, respectively, and Ilford Delta 400: Manual focus, manual film winding, manual exposure, no tripod, no built in meter, etc. It´s a wonder I get any pictures at all .-) DagT
Re: AA bis
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yes, it's trying to duplicate the master. Do you seriously imagine anyone succeeded? Got a shot that looked exactly like his? No. But that isn't the point and doesn't making the least less pathetic. Truly creative people don't worry about stealing overmuch. Look at all the painters that said they stole. Why did they say that? Because there are only so many images, so many ideas. And they were secure in their own creativity and style and skill enough to know what they turned out was unique anyway. But this isn't the same thing. Stealing isn't meant litterally here. We don't have thousands of Mona Lisa's from well known artists. Lots of people have "stolen" from Ansel Adams but few have gone to the extent of these people. I find this pretty obvious so I suspect there must be some cultural gap here Pål
Re: PESO x3 Why I still use film...
Amazing photos ! On 12/16/05, DagT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Resolution if I need it, tonality, and the soft unsharpness in the > out of focus areas. > > http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=209002 > > http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=209653 > > http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=210072 > > Sorry, no Pentax in sight, only an old Bronica SQ-A with PS 180mm, > PS40mm and PS 180mm, respectively, and Ilford Delta 400: > > Manual focus, manual film winding, manual exposure, no tripod, no > built in meter, etc. It´s a wonder I get any pictures at all .-) > > DagT > > -- Yours Michael
I use film....
I use film cause I can't figure out why not... Pål
Re: PESO - Surface Tension
LOL... I can't spell...
Tom C.
From: keith_w <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO - Surface Tension
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:12:15 -0800
Tom C wrote:
Thanks Rick. No polarizer. I broke the one I wish I had at this time
while I was in Alaska (dropped out of my hand onto the deck of the boat,
sproinged apart, now I forget where I put the pieces. I did have some
sots with reflections. I just moved from left to right until the angle was
such that they disappeared. Thanks for commenting.
Tom C.
Hi Tom,
I've observed that at the right stage of sotted-ness, ol' sots can meld
into reflectiveness at the drop of a hat. {...snifff...}
And like The Cheshire cat's smile, they often disappear without warning!
Look under the tables, in the gents, etc.
Glad to be of help... ^[hic]^
keith whaley
PESO -- Oh Deer
Cliché Alert! <<>> If anyone has a problem with cute furry creatures be warned don't press this link. <<>> Now that that's out of the way, just a seasonal sort of shot from a local State Park. Gillette's Castle. I surprised these two on the front lawn while I was tramping around looking for a particular shot. I didn't get it, and they took off. The didn't go far... http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_oh-deer.html Tech Info: Pentax *ist-D ISO 800 @ 1/20sec smc Pentax-FA 28-200mm F3.8~5.6 AL @ 200mm f5.6 (I find myself wanting to take something else with me other than the 28-200 but it's too damned convenient...) -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
RE: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas
No man is an island. I guess that makes two of us, or three of us... Tom C. From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:25:09 -0800 (PST) OKAY! So there is someone else color challenged. Actually, I still don't know if Jens was being facetious. I don't think he's responded to my remarks. Jack --- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well this cracks me up Jack... won't rub it in though... I promise. > :-) > > Tom C. > > > > > >From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > >To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > >Subject: RE: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas > >Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:52:20 -0800 (PST) > > > >Jens, > >Thanks...I think(?) > >Your "great color" remark may be in support of those who actually > like > >Velvia's color pallet. This image was put up, per Kostas' request, > and > >as an example of why I dislike Velvia. This shot was probably on my > >first roll of Velvia and one of the reasons I discontinued its use. > A > >roll or two later, my gag threshold warned me to stop. > >I'm truly grateful for the positive remarks. > > > >Jack > > > > > > > > > >--- Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > This is very nice, Jack. Great colours. Great picture. > > > Regards > > > Jens > > > > > > Jens Bladt > > > http://www.jensbladt.dk > > > > > > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > > > Fra: Jack Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sendt: 10. december 2005 21:23 > > > Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > > > Emne: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas > > > > > > > > > PLEASE BE RIGHT THIS TIME!! > > > > > > Kostas, here is the example of Velvia you requested. Forgot link > and > > > was wrong in a second attempt. > > > You may have read my comments in the earlier attempt. > > > > > > Jack > > > > > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=96 > > > > > > __ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Closure of more Pentax branches?
Why shouldn't they, it's all one big market now. Dario Bonazza wrote: I've heard that Pentax UK is closing down too. Any confirmation? Dario -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: PESO -- Oh Deer
Sure. Sweep off a spot so they'll show up. Dave > Cliché Alert! > > <<>> If anyone has a problem with cute furry creatures be > warned don't press this link. <<>> > > Now that that's out of the way, just a seasonal sort of shot from a > local State Park. Gillette's Castle. I surprised these two on the > front lawn while I was tramping around looking for a particular shot. I > didn't get it, and they took off. The didn't go far... > > http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_oh-deer.html > > Tech Info: > Pentax *ist-D ISO 800 @ 1/20sec > smc Pentax-FA 28-200mm F3.8~5.6 AL @ 200mm f5.6 > > (I find myself wanting to take something else with me other than the > 28-200 but it's too damned convenient...) > > -- > When you're worried or in doubt, > Run in circles, (scream and shout). >
Re: I use film....
Den 16. des. 2005 kl. 19.56 skrev Pål Jensen: I use film cause I can't figure out why not... Digital cameras have one advantage: convenience. But that has very little to do with photography as such and it does not make the pictures any better. They are great if you sell pictures or have to many other considerations to deal with, like kids DagT
Re: PESO - Together (More Hands)
I think this one needs two things. More DOF - probably need more light or a tripod or both. Also, it seems that it would be nice to very easily realize one hand is yours and one is hers. Perhaps a different pose that would clearly indicate - like two left or right hands or difference of clothing or something. As is, your hand is hidden enough by hers that along with shallow dof, it is not readily apparent that there are two of you. Maybe even both of her hands holding one of yours or vice versa. Anyway, I really like the idea, but it needs some more work to make a truly great shot - certainly has the makings for it. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, December 16, 2005, 8:11:11 AM, you wrote: Eac> I decided to use the Mom hands theme for our Xmas newsletter. We do one each Eac> year and stick it into the cards. In other words, I don't make cards out of Eac> it, its a insert. Eac> Only I added my hand. Eac> I don't think it's entirely successful, but I was under a time limit, I Eac> wanted to finish the newsletter up yesterday and get it mailed yesterday. So we did Eac> this Wednesday afternoon after the light had changed for the worse. Because Eac> it was overcast and I had poor ambient light I used my Canon 50mm at 1.8, which Eac> meant shallow DOF. Eac> Anyway, I liked the idea, so I am going to try it again (in better light when Eac> I can get it). Eac> I don't think it's too bad. Sort of looks like I was crunching her hand, but Eac> it was a comfortable pose actually. Though a tad hard to do. I gave up on Eac> tripoding it too, that was just too darn difficult. ;-) Eac> http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/together.htm Eac> Marnie aka Doe
Re: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas
My reality is set, as stated, and the redundant offering of your reality continues as an exercise in futility. I was never a fan of the prose of Galen Rowell. Jack --- Pål Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Jack Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 7:25 PM > Subject: RE: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas > > > > OKAY! So there is someone else color challenged. > > > > Personally, I think anyone liking ProviaF to be color challenged. In > my > color vision that film is truly bizarre. I find Velvia saturated but > accurate in the way that it doesn't display colors that wasn't there. > > Kodachrome is also weird but I eventually learned to believe that the > world > was supposed to look Kodachrome-like after being exposed to it for > years > through the printed media. I just don't buy that argument that Velvia > is > different from other films in picturing "reality". It is a matter of > taste. > > Galen Rowell: > "The truth is that a film can no more match the way our visual system > > constructs color than a silicon chip can match the way our > carbon-based > brain cells construct consciousness." > > > Pål > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: PESO -- Oh Deer
I've resolved just yesterday to, take the 28 - 200 out of my camera bag and box it up and put it in the garage. While it's a fairly good lens for snapshots, I am getting more unenamoured?? with it as time goes on. It's just not sharp enough for serious work. I'm going to need a 200 or 300mm prime. I have the 200mm M but I would prefer AF. Tom C. From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO -- Oh Deer Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:07:39 -0500 Cliché Alert! <<>> If anyone has a problem with cute furry creatures be warned don't press this link. <<>> Now that that's out of the way, just a seasonal sort of shot from a local State Park. Gillette's Castle. I surprised these two on the front lawn while I was tramping around looking for a particular shot. I didn't get it, and they took off. The didn't go far... http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_oh-deer.html Tech Info: Pentax *ist-D ISO 800 @ 1/20sec smc Pentax-FA 28-200mm F3.8~5.6 AL @ 200mm f5.6 (I find myself wanting to take something else with me other than the 28-200 but it's too damned convenient...) -- When you're worried or in doubt,Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: PESO x3 Why I still use film...
DagT wrote: Resolution if I need it, tonality, and the soft unsharpness in the out of focus areas. http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=209002 Good stuff! The above picture is about what you'd get from kids horsing around, and kid on the left just ate a bug! Perfect response! I love it! keith whaley
Re: PESO -- Oh Deer
Very nice composition. The stance of the deer is fortunate. IMO, the background tangle would be better if not so busy. Would work well in a wide pano. Jack --- "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cliché Alert! > > <<>> If anyone has a problem with cute furry creatures be > warned don't press this link. <<>> > > Now that that's out of the way, just a seasonal sort of shot from a > local State Park. Gillette's Castle. I surprised these two on the > front lawn while I was tramping around looking for a particular shot. > I > didn't get it, and they took off. The didn't go far... > > http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_oh-deer.html > > Tech Info: > Pentax *ist-D ISO 800 @ 1/20sec > smc Pentax-FA 28-200mm F3.8~5.6 AL @ 200mm f5.6 > > (I find myself wanting to take something else with me other than the > 28-200 but it's too damned convenient...) > > -- > When you're worried or in doubt, > Run in circles, (scream and shout). > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas
So let me get this right, Pål ... If I say I like Provia F, it seems I am 'color challenged'. But when you say you like Velvia, that is just 'a matter of taste'. Thank you for making that so very, very clear. Colin > Original Message > > Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:41:35 +0100 > From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l_Jensen?= > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Subject: Re: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > format=flowed; > charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > - Original Message - > From: "Jack Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 7:25 PM > Subject: RE: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas > > > > OKAY! So there is someone else color > challenged. > > > > Personally, I think anyone liking ProviaF to be > color challenged. In my > color vision that film is truly bizarre. I find > Velvia saturated but > accurate in the way that it doesn't display > colors that wasn't there. > Kodachrome is also weird but I eventually > learned to believe that the world > was supposed to look Kodachrome-like after > being exposed to it for years > through the printed media. I just don't buy > that argument that Velvia is > different from other films in picturing > "reality". It is a matter of taste. > > Galen Rowell: > "The truth is that a film can no more match the > way our visual system > constructs color than a silicon chip can match > the way our carbon-based > brain cells construct consciousness." > > > Pål > > -- ___ Yahoo! Exclusive Xmas Game, help Santa with his celebrity party - http://santas-christmas-party.yahoo.net/
RE: PESO -- Oh Deer
Tom, I bought a 28~200 (Re-badged Tamron) when they first came out. Had a, rarely accepted, wedding shoot coming up. I ran some quick tests and found it produced some pretty poor images, especially at 200mm. Probably unfair, but I compared it to those shot at 200mm with my A 70~210 f/4. Sold it the next day to someone who, after learning why I was selling it, said it was good enough for him. He'd been using an 80~200 Promaster. Jack --- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've resolved just yesterday to, take the 28 - 200 out of my camera > bag and > box it up and put it in the garage. While it's a fairly good lens > for > snapshots, I am getting more unenamoured?? with it as time goes on. > It's > just not sharp enough for serious work. > > I'm going to need a 200 or 300mm prime. I have the 200mm M but I > would > prefer AF. > > Tom C. > > > > > >From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > >To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > >Subject: PESO -- Oh Deer > >Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:07:39 -0500 > > > >Cliché Alert! > > > ><<>> If anyone has a problem with cute furry creatures be > warned > >don't press this link. <<>> > > > >Now that that's out of the way, just a seasonal sort of shot from a > local > >State Park. Gillette's Castle. I surprised these two on the front > lawn > >while I was tramping around looking for a particular shot. I didn't > get > >it, and they took off. The didn't go far... > > > >http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_oh-deer.html > > > >Tech Info: > >Pentax *ist-D ISO 800 @ 1/20sec > >smc Pentax-FA 28-200mm F3.8~5.6 AL @ 200mm f5.6 > > > >(I find myself wanting to take something else with me other than the > 28-200 > >but it's too damned convenient...) > > > >-- > >When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and > shout). > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
