Takumar 500mm f5
Hi all, sorry I am new in Pentax collecting. I recently bought a Takumar 5/500mm. All black. Found nothing about it. Do you have informations? May I put this lens on a Spotmatic? Best regards, François (Paris FRANCE)
Re: 2nd hand marketing info for European Pentaxers
From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/02/28 Tue AM 01:56:38 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: 2nd hand marketing info for European Pentaxers http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=17391864 Not the most coherent of reads. Apart from not being able to tell the difference between sungular and plural, these parts seem contradictory. Pentax and Samsung will compete head on...the arrangement is stricty cooperative the majority of new sales coming from people trading up from compacts and skipping the prosumer grades for a low end DLSR Nicely built and pretty chunky... 8-))) On the whole, he seems to have woken up a whole new set of rumours... m - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Some more new camera speculation
On Feb 27, 2006, at 10:30 PM, John Francis wrote: That was the thought process I was following. Pentax is committed to the DA lens size - we just don't know exactly how much bigger than the APS sized sensor it might support - other than Full Frame isn't in the short term cards. Might also be built in lens coverage margin for in camera anti-shake implementation? Just how much movement do you expect shake reduction to require? I'd be very surprised if was anything more than, perhaps, 1mm. Evidently, the sensor in the Konica Minolta D7 and D5 is capable of moving about 1cm. Godfrey
Re: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/02/28 Tue AM 07:42:45 GMT To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!) On 27/2/06, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: I went to buy a toilet seat at the weekend. There were three listed as in stock but no location given, so I couldn't have one. _That's_ crap service. That would piss me off. I must admit, I was rather flushed afterwards. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Some more new camera speculation
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote on 28.02.06 10:00: Evidently, the sensor in the Konica Minolta D7 and D5 is capable of moving about 1cm. Ehm... slight exaggeration, I've got demo of AS built on inners of Dynax (Maxxum) 7D and it moves about a few mm max on each side. -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
PAW and GESO
Hi all, I've been doing some more scanning at last :) I've almost finished my slides from January 2000. Here is a PAW - Gondola Terminal: http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/printsdb/view.php?p=283t=1 And since I've finally finished my new gallery system, I made a quick gallery of my latest scans (the pic above is part of it): http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/printsdb/galleries/view.php?g=31 I'd appreciate any feedback on either the photos or the new gallery format. On the surface it's not much different to the concept I showed last week, but I've made a lot of changes under the hood. It's now fully compatible with all the browsers I've checked with, and is even viewable with Javascript switched off. I also made a few changes to the layout to allow it to fit reasonably well on smaller screens. I might change the background texture later - that's been on my to-do list but I haven't had time to fiddle with it. Cheers, - Dave
Re: Some more new camera speculation
This one time, at band camp, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RS What like the 40mm DA that apparently happens to almost fully cover FF? I dont get it, the web page says the chip size is 29.0 mm (H) x 19.1 mm (V) yet, it claims Full-Frame CCD; with Square Pixels I dont get it? am I missing something here? Kind regards Kevin -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
Re: The great shot you miss...
John Coyle wrote: came up this morning on my early walk. The light was poor, so I didn't take a camera. Halfway along the floating riverwalk that is my normal route, something very odd-looking started to move from underneath it towards the river bank. As I got closer, I could see it was a cormorant: body submerged, neck stretched up out of the water, holding a fish in it's beak that would have been three times the size of it's head! Always, always carry a camera! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia Amen, Brother D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc
Re: Some more new camera speculation
Rob Studdert wrote on 28.02.06 1:12: Gleaned from a tangential post at DPReview: http://www.kodak.com/global/en/digital/ccd/products/fullframe/KAF- 10010/specifications.jhtml?id=0.1.4.8.4.7.4lc=en http://tinyurl.com/ks8w8 Now that I would stick around for. What's the likelihood that Pentax would be sourcing a 1.3x sensor from Kodak considering that the 645D sensor is likely from the same crowd? Purely speculation on my part but hey that's what this list's about? That would be interesting. But from interview with Mr. Torigoe one could rather conclude that sensor will come from Sony. It doesn't have to be the one from Nikon D200 especially that my friend who has close relationship with Nikon Poland told me that CCD used in D200 is Nikon's own developed and won't be available to anyone else - just like sensors used in D70/D50. But Sony has already developed their own big, high quality CMOS sensors, one of them is in R1, so there's no problem to make it bigger to fit APS-C image circle. -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Poll: Best Photo Ever
Beautiful shot. I love the rich tones. It radiates warmth. Paul On Feb 28, 2006, at 12:08 AM, Cesar wrote: Yes, I am once again behind concerning the list - but you have made it easier in terms of long threads that are easily deleted :-) Concerning Frank's query, I find that a lot of the photos I think of carry a lot of personal emotion which may not convey to other people. But, and I have given it some thought, thinking about some of my more recent shots I would have to say that the one of a great aunt of mine - http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/583584/display/3364364 - is one that sticks out for me. I would have to really go back over some prints and slides to see others. Another that sticks out for me is a slide of a girlfriend who I took to the Mayan ruins of Copan, Honduras. It was her first travel internationally and she was in awe of all she saw around her. I reveled in sharing that part of my 'heritage' with her. Anyway, I have a shot of portrait of her as she just sat and took it all in. I even made a print and gave it to her parents. I should look for the slide and scan it and post it... Thanks for making me think of my shots - many that people never even see. César Back in Panama City, Florida after a week up north (NYC and Baltimore). frank theriault wrote: My Anti-Valentines day post the other day got me thinking (a rare occurance to be sure). There, I posted this photo: http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5806/2203/1600/haley.jpg which happens to be my favourite photo of mine. It's a close race, actually, because until I took that one a couple of years ago, this one was my fave: http://urbancaravan.com/graphics/asian_girl.jpg It's still a close call, but I think the first one is currently my favourite. Now, given the general mediocrity of the thousands and thousand of frames that I've taken over the years, picking a favourite, or a few favourites may not be such a huge problem g. How about you? Do you have a favourite among the many photos you've taken? If so, can you post it? I think it might be interesting to see how personal favourites might differ from what I perceive as the style of that photographer. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Who Dat?
Thanks for the input. Perhaps that kind of crop would work. But I wanted to create the idea of the metal dog peeking around a corner, so I stuck him right at the edge of a big frame. I feel a more conventional crop would result in a boring picture of an ordinary object. However, I suspect that there isn't much here, no matter how it's sliced. Paul On Feb 28, 2006, at 12:31 AM, Kenneth Waller wrote: Cute subject Paul. Way too much of the white stone on the LH side. Something less than half of what you've captured would be enough. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Who Dat? Here's a pic from yesterday's walkaround with the DA 12-24. I would have opened up a bit on this if I had been watching my exposure more carefully. But it's plenty sharp as shot. f22 @ 1/90th, 18mm, ISO 200 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4169328size=lg
Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
You should go back there and give them some shit. On Feb 28, 2006, at 4:06 AM, mike wilson wrote: From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/02/28 Tue AM 07:42:45 GMT To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!) On 27/2/06, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: I went to buy a toilet seat at the weekend. There were three listed as in stock but no location given, so I couldn't have one. _That's_ crap service. That would piss me off. I must admit, I was rather flushed afterwards. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Leica joins FourThirds standard
Now it's official. I've got the press release. Dario
Re: Re: Who Dat?
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/02/28 Tue AM 11:30:02 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Who Dat? Thanks for the input. Perhaps that kind of crop would work. But I wanted to create the idea of the metal dog peeking around a corner, so I stuck him right at the edge of a big frame. I feel a more conventional crop would result in a boring picture of an ordinary object. However, I suspect that there isn't much here, no matter how it's sliced. Paul Maybe reverse the principle and get the dog from behind, looking at someone? On Feb 28, 2006, at 12:31 AM, Kenneth Waller wrote: Cute subject Paul. Way too much of the white stone on the LH side. Something less than half of what you've captured would be enough. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Who Dat? Here's a pic from yesterday's walkaround with the DA 12-24. I would have opened up a bit on this if I had been watching my exposure more carefully. But it's plenty sharp as shot. f22 @ 1/90th, 18mm, ISO 200 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4169328size=lg - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/02/28 Tue AM 11:35:07 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!) You should go back there and give them some shit. I just washed my hands of the whole affair. On Feb 28, 2006, at 4:06 AM, mike wilson wrote: From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/02/28 Tue AM 07:42:45 GMT To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!) On 27/2/06, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: I went to buy a toilet seat at the weekend. There were three listed as in stock but no location given, so I couldn't have one. _That's_ crap service. That would piss me off. I must admit, I was rather flushed afterwards. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: OT: Sadness Paranoia in West Virginia
On Feb 27, 2006, at 7:26 PM, Glen wrote: Anyway, like Bob Shell said, it's just a Yahoo group. (Bob's always right, it seems.) Learn that, my son, and your road through life will be much easier... Bob Well, Art is Art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water! And East is East and West is West and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now, uh... Now you tell me what you know. - Groucho Marx
Re: Leica joins FourThirds standard
Dario Bonazza wrote on 28.02.06 12:51: Now it's official. I've got the press release. So it means that M Digital will have 4/3 mount? Seeing new Panasonic that's the most feasible option... -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: PAW and GESO
David Mann wrote: Hi all, I've been doing some more scanning at last :) I've almost finished my slides from January 2000. Here is a PAW - Gondola Terminal: http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/printsdb/view.php?p=283t=1 And since I've finally finished my new gallery system, I made a quick gallery of my latest scans (the pic above is part of it): http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/printsdb/galleries/view.php?g=31 I'd appreciate any feedback on either the photos or the new gallery format. On the surface it's not much different to the concept I showed last week, but I've made a lot of changes under the hood. It's now fully compatible with all the browsers I've checked with, and is even viewable with Javascript switched off. I also made a few changes to the layout to allow it to fit reasonably well on smaller screens. I might change the background texture later - that's been on my to-do list but I haven't had time to fiddle with it. Cheers, - Dave Some very good work there, Dave! The only one I puzzle over is the Gondola Terminal. I don't know what I'm looking at, so it's not all that clear what it represents. Gondola from/to where? Other than that, all images to be proud of! keith whaley
Re: Leica joins FourThirds standard
Two joint announcements: 1 - Panasonic and Leica announce the introduction of the D Vario-Elmarit 14-50 with MEGA O.I.S: 2 - Olympus and Leica announce Leica to join the FourThirds. A lot of blah, blah and not a word about possible Leica cameras. However, it is not diffcult to expect a Leica-rebadged Olysonic. Dario - Original Message - From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 1:02 PM Subject: Re: Leica joins FourThirds standard Dario Bonazza wrote on 28.02.06 12:51: Now it's official. I've got the press release. So it means that M Digital will have 4/3 mount? Seeing new Panasonic that's the most feasible option... -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
On Feb 28, 2006, at 1:42 AM, Joseph Tainter wrote: The limiteds are on eBay all the time. The FA* 24 shows up there regularly. The FA* 85 and 300 show up less often, but they do show up. The FA* 400 comes up 2 or 3 times a year. For rotten sales, there are a lot of them floating around. When you say a lot, how many do you mean? How many per month? Ten? A hundred? A thousand? Really, Joe, the sales of FA* lenses have been dreadful, and continue to be dreadful. Are the clamoring people looking for new or used? -Aaron
Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!) And you know what happens when one assumes ;-)) What's interesting is that you can't buy a Samsung here in the US yet, so Pentax is losing sales. How much wiser it would be, should this assumption be true, that things be somewhat better coordinated. If they are selling everything they can build, they are losing nothing. Perhaps it's nothing more than the Amarican market being bigger than what Pentax is willing to allocate to it. William Robb
Re: Leica joins FourThirds standard
On Feb 28, 2006, at 7:02 AM, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: Now it's official. I've got the press release. So it means that M Digital will have 4/3 mount? Seeing new Panasonic that's the most feasible option... M Digital will have M mount. Bob
Re: Leica joins FourThirds standard
Bob Shell wrote on 28.02.06 13:41: M Digital will have M mount. Is there any official info on this? -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Leica joins FourThirds standard
On Feb 28, 2006, at 7:51 AM, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: M Digital will have M mount. Is there any official info on this? Yes. Bob
RE: Leica joins FourThirds standard
And it would not be Leica M if it did not have Leica M mount, right? :-) Antti-Pekka Antti-Pekka Virjonen Computec Oy Turku www.computec.fi -Original Message- From: Bob Shell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 3:07 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Leica joins FourThirds standard On Feb 28, 2006, at 7:51 AM, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: M Digital will have M mount. Is there any official info on this? Yes. Bob
Re: Leica joins FourThirds standard
Bob Shell wrote on 28.02.06 14:06: Yes. Strange. They would have three various mounts for their digital cameras... Anyway I guess 4/3 would be the most affordable one ;-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Leica joins FourThirds standard
Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: Bob Shell wrote on 28.02.06 14:06: Yes. Strange. They would have three various mounts for their digital cameras... Anyway I guess 4/3 would be the most affordable one ;-) What's probably going to happen is that the always poor selling R will slowly die off in favour of the LeiOlySonic. -Adam
Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!) And you know what happens when one assumes ;-)) What's interesting is that you can't buy a Samsung here in the US yet, so Pentax is losing sales. How much wiser it would be, should this assumption be true, that things be somewhat better coordinated. If they are selling everything they can build, they are losing nothing. Perhaps it's nothing more than the Amarican market being bigger than what Pentax is willing to allocate to it. William Robb Except market share, which you tend to lose if you can't supply the demand, as frustrated consumers go elsewhere. -Adam
Re: a question about controls
On 27 Feb 2006 at 21:53, Aaron Reynolds wrote: When I used an istD a number of times last summer, I found the manual white balance controls counterintuitive and a huge pain in the butt. I find it a pain to use I must admit, especially when trying to also hold a white reference card in from of the camera too. Manual white balance on the DS2 seems to be brilliantly simple, and even though it's now in a menu instead of on a little button, I find it much easier. My old Oly E10 WB was really easy to use, it had a small dedicated WB button next to the shutter button which when pressed immediately took a WB measurement after which confirmation using the OK button set the value. When ever the WB was to manual the last value set was used, pretty darn simple compared to any of the *ist D variants. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Some more new camera speculation
On 28 Feb 2006 at 20:46, Kevin Waterson wrote: This one time, at band camp, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RS What like the 40mm DA that apparently happens to almost fully cover FF? I dont get it, the web page says the chip size is 29.0 mm (H) x 19.1 mm (V) yet, it claims Full-Frame CCD; with Square Pixels I dont get it? am I missing something here? It appears that you are mistaking sensor technology terms for camera terms. A Full-Frame CCD reads all the sensor pixel data sequentially and a square pixel is just, it's got nothing to do with the overall sensor dimensions. The CCD sensor in the *ist D cameras is described in its specifications as operating in Frame readout mode and goes on to say: Frame readout allows all pixels' signals to be output independently within approximately 1/3.08 second. Adoption of a design specially suited for frame readout ensures a high saturation signal level. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
On 27 Feb 2006 at 22:19, Aaron Reynolds wrote: I don't mean to imply that Pentax work logically, or that leaving the istDS2 off the market for any length of time is at all a good idea, but in the case of the FA* lenses, sales are rotten. Really, horrendously rotten. People clamor for them here, but how many buy them? Besides, the PDML is hardly representative of the buying public. Pentax marketing hard at work again? Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: FS unemployment is for the birds
Collin, Is the Tokina 80-200/2,8 auto focus? Would you ship to Canada (for the additional cost of course)? thanx dk On 2/27/06, Collin R Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A100/2.8, non-macro version, both caps, ex. cond., $225 Tokina 80-200/2.8, A version, both caps, vgc, $225 $10 shipping (within US) includes insurance PayPal. He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott
Re: Some more new camera speculation
Hi Kevin, On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:46:26 +1100, Kevin Waterson wrote: I dont get it, the web page says the chip size is 29.0 mm (H) x 19.1 mm (V) yet, it claims Full-Frame CCD; with Square Pixels I dont get it? am I missing something here? Seems so, this is 'sensor talk' not 'camera talk' :-) Full-Frame here is a sensor property, meaning it can be read out in one go (the whole frame), as opposed to line by line which is much easier/cheaper to implement but much slower. The latter is often used in the large MF sensors and scanners. Building the image line by line makes real-time shots impossible. In some cases (scanners) the sensor is actually just a single row of imaging-cells that is mechanically moved accros the frame ... It does NOT relate at all to the 'full-frame' area sensor in a camera with a sensor as large as one 'full-frame' 35mm film image Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery
Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
You should go back there and give them some shit. Having done that, you'd be flush with success! Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!) You should go back there and give them some shit. On Feb 28, 2006, at 4:06 AM, mike wilson wrote: From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/02/28 Tue AM 07:42:45 GMT To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!) On 27/2/06, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: I went to buy a toilet seat at the weekend. There were three listed as in stock but no location given, so I couldn't have one. _That's_ crap service. That would piss me off. I must admit, I was rather flushed afterwards. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Some more new camera speculation
On 28 Feb 2006 at 10:26, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: That would be interesting. But from interview with Mr. Torigoe one could rather conclude that sensor will come from Sony. It doesn't have to be the one from Nikon D200 especially that my friend who has close relationship with Nikon Poland told me that CCD used in D200 is Nikon's own developed and won't be available to anyone else - just like sensors used in D70/D50. But Sony has already developed their own big, high quality CMOS sensors, one of them is in R1, so there's no problem to make it bigger to fit APS-C image circle. None of the translations that I read actually reported that he said that it was a Sony chip, it may have been inferred but that seems to be all. We'll see in time I guess. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Some more new camera speculation
Rob Studdert wrote on 28.02.06 16:00: None of the translations that I read actually reported that he said that it was a Sony chip, it may have been inferred but that seems to be all. We'll see in time I guess. No it wasn't directly implicated, just my feeling ;-) But distracting from this - don't you have Rob a strange feeling that new camera will accept lenses with ultrasonic motor? Would it be coincidence that suddenly on roadmap of Pentax lenses appear unexpected proffesional f2.8 zooms and about the same time Mr. Torigoe says about K-mount evolution and many surprises in new D body??? Nothing is sure for now, but it became quite clear for me, that these new f2.8 lenses could have USM AF drive working only with new D camera... Anyway that would be great news for us. -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Some more new camera speculation
On 28 Feb 2006 at 15:10, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: No it wasn't directly implicated, just my feeling ;-) But distracting from this - don't you have Rob a strange feeling that new camera will accept lenses with ultrasonic motor? Would it be coincidence that suddenly on roadmap of Pentax lenses appear unexpected proffesional f2.8 zooms and about the same time Mr. Torigoe says about K-mount evolution and many surprises in new D body??? Nothing is sure for now, but it became quite clear for me, that these new f2.8 lenses could have USM AF drive working only with new D camera... Anyway that would be great news for us. Well actually I've had a rather unwelcome strange feeling all day and an elevated temperature to go with it, but it wasn't USM. Nor do I expect that Pentax lenses will suffer the USM affliction in any time soon :-) I'd be happy to be proven wrong but I'd be very very surprised at such a development. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Sony's D200 sensor
Hi Rob, I am still just looking at the PDML archives time to time, hope you are all well. Now I caught the discussion about upcoming new Pentax, and if it uses the D200 sensor. There were some questions regarding the noise and banding of the D200 Nikon. Well, at my current employer, a national newspaper we got a D200 and colleagues from Czech only national news agency have been using them right from the start, including some pre-release samples before the official release. Obviously it's PJ use, and everybody is quite happy with it, even noise and sharpness. It's no doubt that current Canons are about one stop better regarding noise than Nikon, but it's not such a big deal, as far as I see it - it's not like D200 files were unusable at 1600 while Canon's were glorious. It's a not so big difference. While otherwise, from what the colleagues who shoot a thousand photos daily with the camera say, they quite like it, even more than the D2X. So I have hopes for the sensor... :) Most recently, the new wideangle pancake has got me intrigued - it's a digital format lens I would be raving about was it available for Nikon! Would make for a terrific small SLR combo, as was always Pentax's strength. Feel free to forward this to the list, if you wish. Anyway, please tell there my best wishes to all the friends :) Good light! fra
Re: Askingfor a tiny/big favour (US)
As a seller my issue would be shipping to a 3rd-party address. That is a method of some scammers, so those who do so with legitimacy should consider other options. Collin He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott
Re: Leica joins FourThirds standard
Hi! Given the fact that 4/3 system has many adaptors, it will be rather possible to mount limited pentax glass on leica branded body with olympus mount. I say it is quite swell... -- Boris
Re: Ebay mode
Dario Bonazza wrote on 28.02.06 15:37: Wordless: http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/parts/image_for_link/44737-3316-3-2.html Hopefully we will find such a program line in the upcoming D ;-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Ebay mode
On Feb 28, 2006, at 9:51 AM, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: Dario Bonazza wrote on 28.02.06 15:37: Wordless: http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/parts/image_for_link/ 44737-3316-3-2.html Hopefully we will find such a program line in the upcoming D ;-) Yes. It will defocus the lens and apply way too much sharpening. Bob
Re: 2nd hand marketing info for European Pentaxers
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006, Rob Studdert wrote: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=17391864 I am lead to believe Intro2020 (the Tamron UK rep) will soon/has now taken on Pentax UK sales, which may explain the shared stand. Kostas
Re: Some more new camera speculation
On Feb 28, 2006, at 1:20 AM, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: Evidently, the sensor in the Konica Minolta D7 and D5 is capable of moving about 1cm. Ehm... slight exaggeration, I've got demo of AS built on inners of Dynax (Maxxum) 7D and it moves about a few mm max on each side. I've never taken one apart, but according to the technology discussion and video animation that KM posted when the D7 came out, the sensor moves up to 5mm in H and V directions from the reference midpoint. That's 1cm. Godfrey
Re: Some more new camera speculation
On 2/28/06 9:10 AM, Sylwester Pietrzyk, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No it wasn't directly implicated, just my feeling ;-) But distracting from this - don't you have Rob a strange feeling that new camera will accept lenses with ultrasonic motor? Would it be coincidence that suddenly on roadmap of Pentax lenses appear unexpected proffesional f2.8 zooms and about the same time Mr. Torigoe says about K-mount evolution and many surprises in new D body??? Nothing is sure for now, but it became quite clear for me, that these new f2.8 lenses could have USM AF drive working only with new D camera... Anyway that would be great news for us. Actually, I was thinking the same thing, perhaps with some wishful thinking (remember, it's a silly season :-). But I did not post it for the fear of raising the blood pressure of some PDMLers unnecessarily. Now that you said it Here's the part which is a bit suggestive. On 2/27/06 7:14 AM, K.Takeshita, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are now working on the development of the K-mount toward higher performance/more functions by way of progressive replacement So, what's more functions? Hope it's not going back to PZ :-). I am not sure if the fast DA zoom was any indication but Pentax must be doing something quietly, revamping their whole lens lineup. Sudden disappearance of FA lenses and increased capacity of their main Vietnam lens factory by 160% this fall might be some indication. Mystery deepens. Ken
Re: Some more new camera speculation
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote on 28.02.06 16:03: I've never taken one apart, but according to the technology discussion and video animation that KM posted when the D7 came out, the sensor moves up to 5mm in H and V directions from the reference midpoint. That's 1cm. Oh yes, thi way it is possible :-) It doesn't move 1 cm in each of directions, but a few mm. Together move would be around 1 cm. -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
No, it's that Pentax has, according to FIVE independent sources, discontinued the effin' camera after only a few months on the market. They are, according to these sources, not building any more of these cameras. I'd love to be wrong about this. It would be great if the cameras started appearing again - although by the time they do it will be of little use to me, but perhaps for others. Shel [Original Message] From: William Robb If they are selling everything they can build, they are losing nothing. Perhaps it's nothing more than the Amarican market being bigger than what Pentax is willing to allocate to it.
Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
Why do you think the sale of those lenses is so poor? Too expensive for most people? Appealing to too limited a market? Shel [Original Message] From: Aaron Reynolds Really, Joe, the sales of FA* lenses have been dreadful, and continue to be dreadful. Are the clamoring people looking for new or used?
Re: Some more new camera speculation
K.Takeshita wrote on 28.02.06 16:05: Actually, I was thinking the same thing, perhaps with some wishful thinking (remember, it's a silly season :-). But I did not post it for the fear of raising the blood pressure of some PDMLers unnecessarily. Now that you said it Exactly. It is speculation, but there are some traces that can lead to such a conclusion :-) So, what's more functions? Hope it's not going back to PZ :-). I am not sure if the fast DA zoom was any indication but Pentax must be doing something quietly, revamping their whole lens lineup. Sudden disappearance of FA lenses and increased capacity of their main Vietnam lens factory by 160% this fall might be some indication. Mystery deepens. Well, for me introducing new pro-grade USM equipped f2.8 zooms together with new higher class DSLR makes sense. If they have ANY plans to introduce USM driven lenses why wasting resources to build traditionally screw driven expensive lenses which are usually not changed by newer models that often??? Of course these lenses can have traditional AF drive, but that would mean that USM driven ones won't apear soon. Another small clue is that they haven't shown mount of new D, and AF-C/AF-S/MF switch has radically different build and this is a part of AF system in Pentax camera. Nothing that could convince me that USM will come, but... ;-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
Nobody who wants one can find them? -Adam Shel Belinkoff wrote: Why do you think the sale of those lenses is so poor? Too expensive for most people? Appealing to too limited a market? Shel [Original Message] From: Aaron Reynolds Really, Joe, the sales of FA* lenses have been dreadful, and continue to be dreadful. Are the clamoring people looking for new or used?
Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
They may have had to switch production over to the new D. I would imagine they are at least at the stage of building production prototypes. The DS2 may have been a short-run test mule to try out the larger lcd and some other bits and pieces. I think most manufacturers have all they can do to try and keep up with the fast changing DSLR market. For a maker with limited resources, it must be a real struggle. Paul -- Original message -- From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] No, it's that Pentax has, according to FIVE independent sources, discontinued the effin' camera after only a few months on the market. They are, according to these sources, not building any more of these cameras. I'd love to be wrong about this. It would be great if the cameras started appearing again - although by the time they do it will be of little use to me, but perhaps for others. Shel [Original Message] From: William Robb If they are selling everything they can build, they are losing nothing. Perhaps it's nothing more than the Amarican market being bigger than what Pentax is willing to allocate to it.
Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
Shel continued: I'm not looking for guarantees, but I do have an expectation of a certain level of service. That probably stems from my background. Pretty much my whole family was in a service business at one time or another. Plus, I grew up in the era of trust and respect. Sure, many here are looking for a low cost, reliable purveyor. That's what buying on line is all about. However, when it's time to interface with a real person, it would be nice if that person possessed knowledge, skill, common sense, and a friendly, helpful demeanor. The entire process starts going downhill when you're on interminable hold listen to a message every few minutes that says Your call is important to us. Well, if the call is so friggin' important, pick up the effin' phone. Staffing of customer service calls has become a science. In order to apparently provide a specific level of service for their customers, companies have learned: -how long a wait is too long -what is the level of knowledge their responders should have They address the first by staffing levels They address the second by staffing training High levels of customer service cost money. We've already told them we don't want to pay any more. Companies now are trying to walk the narrow line called cost effective customer service. Go below the level and your lack of service drives away customers. Go above the same level and your increase in costs either makes your sales unprofitable or prices too high - again driving away customers. WE did this when we turned our backs on the small, local, expensive, high service provider stores and move to their lower priced competitors. This is for any product that can be commoditized. Know any small businesses that successfully serve any but a niche market? For years, I've tried to patronize small local stores, often paying a premium to do so. I seem to be in a very small minority. Where I live most of them have either gone under or been bought up by national chains. All too often, this means that now when I actually need customer service, it really isn't available or I have to almost scream for it. It's our fault. Larry in Dallas
Re: Re: Some more new camera speculation
From: K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/02/28 Tue PM 03:05:55 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Some more new camera speculation On 2/28/06 9:10 AM, Sylwester Pietrzyk, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No it wasn't directly implicated, just my feeling ;-) But distracting from this - don't you have Rob a strange feeling that new camera will accept lenses with ultrasonic motor? Would it be coincidence that suddenly on roadmap of Pentax lenses appear unexpected proffesional f2.8 zooms and about the same time Mr. Torigoe says about K-mount evolution and many surprises in new D body??? Nothing is sure for now, but it became quite clear for me, that these new f2.8 lenses could have USM AF drive working only with new D camera... Anyway that would be great news for us. Actually, I was thinking the same thing, perhaps with some wishful thinking (remember, it's a silly season :-). But I did not post it for the fear of raising the blood pressure of some PDMLers unnecessarily. Now that you said it Here's the part which is a bit suggestive. On 2/27/06 7:14 AM, K.Takeshita, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are now working on the development of the K-mount toward higher performance/more functions by way of progressive replacement So, what's more functions? Hope it's not going back to PZ :-). I am not sure if the fast DA zoom was any indication but Pentax must be doing something quietly, revamping their whole lens lineup. Sudden disappearance of FA lenses and increased capacity of their main Vietnam lens factory by 160% this fall might be some indication. Mystery deepens. Ken I'm more interested in what is meant by progressive replacement. PZ contacts could be used for USM? m - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Card Reader Speed
I'm sure virtually everyone has long since gone well beyond this tech level, but how do I determine the down load/write speed of my Olympus Camedia USB Dual Slot Reader-Writer? Bought this 'prox 5 years ago to read CF cards from a 1.3mp compact. I'm now beginning to wonder about its adequacy in handling large files from a 10mp DSLR. Thanks, Jack __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Re: Some more new camera speculation
From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/02/28 Tue PM 03:16:05 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Some more new camera speculation Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote on 28.02.06 16:03: I've never taken one apart, but according to the technology discussion and video animation that KM posted when the D7 came out, the sensor moves up to 5mm in H and V directions from the reference midpoint. That's 1cm. Oh yes, thi way it is possible :-) It doesn't move 1 cm in each of directions, but a few mm. Together move would be around 1 cm. More than, diagonally. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
It seems there were never very many samples of some high-end lenses available to sell. If the sales were dreadful, the lenses would be sitting ona shelf in a warehouse. Apparently, there are none available. I would say the sales were capacity constrained. Dreadful is when you can't sell out the production run. Paul -- Original message -- From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why do you think the sale of those lenses is so poor? Too expensive for most people? Appealing to too limited a market? Shel [Original Message] From: Aaron Reynolds Really, Joe, the sales of FA* lenses have been dreadful, and continue to be dreadful. Are the clamoring people looking for new or used?
Re: Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/02/28 Tue PM 03:35:23 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!) No, it's that Pentax has, according to FIVE independent sources, discontinued the effin' camera after only a few months on the market. In which case, maybe you shold be glad you didn't get one. I imagine the spares situation will be, er, interesting in, , about a year's time.. They are, according to these sources, not building any more of these cameras. I'd love to be wrong about this. It would be great if the cameras started appearing again - although by the time they do it will be of little use to me, but perhaps for others. Shel [Original Message] From: William Robb If they are selling everything they can build, they are losing nothing. Perhaps it's nothing more than the Amarican market being bigger than what Pentax is willing to allocate to it. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Some more new camera speculation
mike wilson wrote on 28.02.06 16:45: I'm more interested in what is meant by progressive replacement. PZ contacts could be used for USM? Yes, they could, as in their patent (KAF3?), which I've sent in PDF file to a few people. -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Takumar 500mm f5
I own a SMC Takumar 500. It has screw threads (M42) and will fit on my Spotmatic or ES II cameras. There was a K-mount version as well that could be used on the bayonet mount Pentaxes. The lens is really heavy and should be used on a tripod. A more useful lens is the 300 mm. Jim A. Hi all, sorry I am new in Pentax collecting. I recently bought a Takumar 5/500mm. All black. Found nothing about it. Do you have informations? May I put this lens on a Spotmatic? Best regards, François (Paris FRANCE)
Re: Re: Some more new camera speculation
From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/02/28 Tue PM 03:49:23 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Some more new camera speculation mike wilson wrote on 28.02.06 16:45: I'm more interested in what is meant by progressive replacement. PZ contacts could be used for USM? Yes, they could, as in their patent (KAF3?), which I've sent in PDF file to a few people. That would be progressive replacement, as most people seem to agree that PZ was not a good implementation of technology. Replacement of mechanical aperture linkage with (effectively) nothing is not progressive m - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
Except the nearly identical DL already had that before. The DS2 seems to be a DS in a DL body. -Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They may have had to switch production over to the new D. I would imagine they are at least at the stage of building production prototypes. The DS2 may have been a short-run test mule to try out the larger lcd and some other bits and pieces. I think most manufacturers have all they can do to try and keep up with the fast changing DSLR market. For a maker with limited resources, it must be a real struggle. Paul -- Original message -- From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] No, it's that Pentax has, according to FIVE independent sources, discontinued the effin' camera after only a few months on the market. They are, according to these sources, not building any more of these cameras. I'd love to be wrong about this. It would be great if the cameras started appearing again - although by the time they do it will be of little use to me, but perhaps for others. Shel [Original Message] From: William Robb If they are selling everything they can build, they are losing nothing. Perhaps it's nothing more than the Amarican market being bigger than what Pentax is willing to allocate to it.
Re: Takumar 500mm f5
http://www.aohc.it/tak05e.htm http://www.aohc.it/lense.htm And yes, you can use it with any Spottie variation. Dario - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 9:11 AM Subject: Takumar 500mm f5 Hi all, sorry I am new in Pentax collecting. I recently bought a Takumar 5/500mm. All black. Found nothing about it. Do you have informations? May I put this lens on a Spotmatic? Best regards, François (Paris FRANCE)
Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
I don't know about the USA situation, but here in Canada they ARE sitting on the warehouse shelves. In many cases they had a lens for five years before it sold and did not re-order. Heck, they have brand new, 20 year old A* lenses up here. -Aaron -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!) Date: Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:47 am Size: 778 bytes To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net It seems there were never very many samples of some high-end lenses available to sell. If the sales were dreadful, the lenses would be sitting ona shelf in a warehouse. Apparently, there are none available. I would say the sales were capacity constrained. Dreadful is when you can't sell out the production run. Paul -- Original message -- From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why do you think the sale of those lenses is so poor? Too expensive for most people? Appealing to too limited a market? Shel [Original Message] From: Aaron Reynolds Really, Joe, the sales of FA* lenses have been dreadful, and continue to be dreadful. Are the clamoring people looking for new or used?
Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
On Feb 28, 2006, at 11:07 AM, Aaron Reynolds wrote: I don't know about the USA situation, but here in Canada they ARE sitting on the warehouse shelves. In many cases they had a lens for five years before it sold and did not re-order. Heck, they have brand new, 20 year old A* lenses up here. Have they not discovered eBay? Bob From the moment I picked up your book until I laid it down, I was convulsed with laughter. Some day I intend reading it. -.Groucho Marx
Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
I'm not aware of any camera company hawking their own wares on eBay -- I imagine the retailers would object and respond by not stocking Pentax. -Aaron -Original Message- From: Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!) Date: Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:35 am Size: 493 bytes To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net On Feb 28, 2006, at 11:07 AM, Aaron Reynolds wrote: I don't know about the USA situation, but here in Canada they ARE sitting on the warehouse shelves. In many cases they had a lens for five years before it sold and did not re-order. Heck, they have brand new, 20 year old A* lenses up here. Have they not discovered eBay? Bob From the moment I picked up your book until I laid it down, I was convulsed with laughter. Some day I intend reading it. -.Groucho Marx
SV: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
Which ones :-) Jens Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Bob Shell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 28. februar 2006 17:36 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!) On Feb 28, 2006, at 11:07 AM, Aaron Reynolds wrote: I don't know about the USA situation, but here in Canada they ARE sitting on the warehouse shelves. In many cases they had a lens for five years before it sold and did not re-order. Heck, they have brand new, 20 year old A* lenses up here. Have they not discovered eBay? Bob From the moment I picked up your book until I laid it down, I was convulsed with laughter. Some day I intend reading it. -.Groucho Marx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/271 - Release Date: 02/28/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/271 - Release Date: 02/28/2006
Re: Card Reader Speed
Look up its specs on the web ... based on the name you provided, it might be the Olympus MAUSB-5W unit at this page: http://www.olympus-europa.com/consumer/198_MAUSB-5W.htm That's a USB 1.1 spec device. USB 1.1 is not particularly useful with the data volumes involved when you're using high resolution cameras and RAW format files, where 1G storage cards are the baseline. USB 1.1 is approximately 30-40x slower than USB 2.0 ... A 60x 1G card used with a USB 2.0 transfers at around [EMAIL PROTECTED] give or take, which means about 170 seconds (just under 3 minutes) from start to end. An optimistic 30x that number for USB 1.1 means that to transfer the same card data with a USB 1.1 reader takes 5000 seconds, or 83 minutes. USB 1.1 reader devices were fine when the average card capacity was 16-64Mbytes. With 1G and larger cards becoming the norm, they're no longer useful. A good 8-in-1 USB card reader (I use a Belkin) now costs on the order of $15-30, so it's not an enormous expense. Godfrey On Feb 28, 2006, at 7:46 AM, Jack Davis wrote: I'm sure virtually everyone has long since gone well beyond this tech level, but how do I determine the down load/write speed of my Olympus Camedia USB Dual Slot Reader-Writer? Bought this 'prox 5 years ago to read CF cards from a 1.3mp compact. I'm now beginning to wonder about its adequacy in handling large files from a 10mp DSLR.
Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
Olympus USA seems to be active: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZolympususaQQhtZ-1 On 2/28/06, Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not aware of any camera company hawking their own wares on eBay -- I imagine the retailers would object and respond by not stocking Pentax. -Aaron -Original Message- From: Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!) Date: Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:35 am Size: 493 bytes To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net On Feb 28, 2006, at 11:07 AM, Aaron Reynolds wrote: I don't know about the USA situation, but here in Canada they ARE sitting on the warehouse shelves. In many cases they had a lens for five years before it sold and did not re-order. Heck, they have brand new, 20 year old A* lenses up here. Have they not discovered eBay? Bob From the moment I picked up your book until I laid it down, I was convulsed with laughter. Some day I intend reading it. -.Groucho Marx -- Perry Pellechia Primary email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alternate email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://homer.chem.sc.edu/perry
Re: Some more new camera speculation
On Feb 28, 2006, at 7:56 AM, mike wilson wrote: That would be progressive replacement, as most people seem to agree that PZ was not a good implementation of technology. Replacement of mechanical aperture linkage with (effectively) nothing is not progressive I've never seen the point to power zoom in a still camera. It's useful in video cameras because zooming while framing during a shot is part of the syntax of motion capture. In a still camera, I want direct manual control of the focal length for best responsiveness. The power couplings, however, could power in-lens focus servos as easily as a power zoom servo. So they could build a body with the PZ power couplings that operated both types of lenses. Replacement of the mechanical aperture coupling with a servo-driven system has been done and done very well already. It lends greater accuracy and reliability to the system. Godfrey
Enablement. Sigma and Mac(and a ?)
Hi All. I had a Sigma 10-20 on trial for the Nikon cameras, and i decided to buy it. Took some nice shots at the old homestead Sunday. I'll be getting a page up on the old farm house soon. Seems pretty sharp and contrasty. Also my Airport Express with AirTunes arrived today. Whoo Hoo. Now i never have to come out of the basement.:-) One question, well two, four is right out. Is there a restriction on cable length from the Express to a stereo. Right now mine would be about 20' away. The unit came with software and iTunes. I have iTunes on the iBook, and Airport Wireless is built in. Do i need to install the software or is it already on the computer and i just have to set up the unit from a Wizard. I was going to bring the ibook to work, but i forgot. Dave
Re: Enablement. Sigma and Mac(and a ?)
1. Are you using the digital or analog cable from the airport to the stereo? If you're using the analog cable, make sure to get a good-quality shielded cable for the run. A digital cable will be fine over that distance, though unless you have an A/V receiver, you're probably not using digital. :-) 2. The version of itunes on your laptop, provided it is up to date, should be just fine. You may need to install the airport express setup/admin utility if that isn't on your laptop. After you install it, run a software update to make sure you have the latest firmware/software. Oh yeah, and post some pictures from the Sigma 10-20. :-) -Mat On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 12:01:34 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All. I had a Sigma 10-20 on trial for the Nikon cameras, and i decided to buy it. Took some nice shots at the old homestead Sunday. I'll be getting a page up on the old farm house soon. Seems pretty sharp and contrasty. Also my Airport Express with AirTunes arrived today.
Re: Some more new camera speculation
On 2/28/06 10:40 AM, Sylwester Pietrzyk, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AF-C/AF-S/MF switch has radically different build and this is a part of AF system in Pentax camera This could also be an indication that the camera may have a dust/drip proof seal, if not water proof. Ken
Re: Card Reader Speed
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Look up its specs on the web ... based on the name you provided, it might be the Olympus MAUSB-5W unit at this page: http://www.olympus-europa.com/consumer/198_MAUSB-5W.htm That's a USB 1.1 spec device. USB 1.1 is not particularly useful with the data volumes involved when you're using high resolution cameras and RAW format files, where 1G storage cards are the baseline. USB 1.1 is approximately 30-40x slower than USB 2.0 ... FYI- I'm using a Lexar Firewire CompactFlash Readerand for whatever reason, I find it to be faster than USB2.0 readers by a substantial amount. Even Lexar's own USB reader, which looks almost identical, is slower. -Ryan
Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
Pentax Japan Worldwide Imaging Conglomerate and Storm Door Company You're closer than you may think with that observation -- Pentax make survey equipment and medical imaging products. I thought I had heard that medical imaging outperformed cameras by a wide margin, sales-wise. As a wise man once said, That's the way it crumbles, cookie-wise. -Aaron -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!) Date: Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:58 am Size: 1K To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net I called Adorama this morning to be sure that the order I placed has been cancelled and that my credit card was not charged. I spoke with a fellow named Tobias. He said that the camera is not on backorder, and that he shows two in stock. His suggestion was that I not cancel the order and wait to the end of the day to see if the camera ships. What kind of crap is that. Either the camera is in stock or it's not. Either they can ship or they can't. But to ask a customer to wait and see what happens is ludicrous. What ever happened to service? Bill, I agree with you about Pentax having a greater hand in the distribution of their products. All I want, and probably other customers want as well, is a straight answer to my questions and to be able to simply purchase a camera. I understand that the problem may be with Pentax USA, but the problem may also be with Pentax Japan Worldwide Imaging Conglomerate and Storm Door Company for not being able to supply product or being straightforward about it's availability. Shel [Original Message] From: William Robb The DS2 was on their site for quite some time after I placed my order - almost 24 hours. Anyway, I'm past that and am continuing to look for the camera here in the US. I'm probably more miffed at Pentax for not having the camera in stock or available for purchase here in the US. Pentax USA is not owned by Pentax Japan, IIRC. Perhaps your market would be better served if Pentax had more to do with the distributor than just lending them a name to put on the door.
Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
If you check the ID history you'll find that this seller is ~not~ Olympus camera company, but just some jamoke using a name that implies there may be a connection to Olympus. Shel From: Perry Pellechia Olympus USA seems to be active: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZolympususaQQhtZ-1 Aaron Reynolds wrote: I'm not aware of any camera company hawking their own wares on eBay --
Re: Card Reader Speed
You can use HdTach to check the reading speed. http://www.simplisoftware.com/Public/index.php?request=HdTach -- Best regards, Alex Sarbu
Re: OT: aquariums
From: Gautam Sarup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom, I'm leaning more and more towards taking the Provia and pushing it as you suggest. I have a few more questions by now: 1. What lenses? I don't have too many choices. The fastest Pentax lens I have is a 50/1.4. Is that likely to be too short? On the tele. side I have an 80-320 but that's not a fast lens (f4.5-5.6.) There's really no good answer to these questions. As you anticipated, it all depends on the subject you are attempting to capture at the moment and you won't know the actual lighting conditons until you're there shooting. I would certainly bring the 50/1.4 and determine what aperture allows it to be hand-holdable. It's all very hit miss really. The 50/1.4 should not be too short, especially if you are isolating a subject(s) in the same plane (distance from the camera). I'd bring both lenses and see what works for you. 2. Has anyone tried Ektachrome 1600? I haven't tried it. I have pushed Provia 100F two stops and have had very good results. Provia 400F being in the same family should push well also. If you find you can shoot with the camera set at 1600 I wouldn't push any further than you find the need to. Tom C. Cheers, Gautam On 2/27/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just another suggestion... I've shot 800 speed film at aquariums and even that was marginal because of the dim lighting. Even if you are able to handhold it, the subjects are moving as well. That's why I suggested something that can be pushed significantly Tom C. From: Gautam Sarup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: aquariums Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 23:51:39 -0800 Thanks for the suggestions. Think I get a roll of Provia and K200 and shoot both at the aquarium in San Francisco. Another question, since K200 is a daylight film would be behave OK in the (presumably) flourescent lighting in a fish tank? I made the mistake of shooting K64 under artificial lighting once and everything came out green. Cheers, Gautam On 2/26/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gautam Sarup wrote: I'm planning a trip to the Monterey aquarium and would like advice on what slide film to use. The only colour film I use regularly is K64 and that's likely to be too slow. Suggestions will be appreciated. Cheers, Gautam K200 - you can push it to 500, maybe more.
Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
Is that actually Olympus' US distributor? Are they connected to that Russian camera site in some way? (Their e-mail address ends with @sentosacamera.com.) -Aaron -Original Message- From: Perry Pellechia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!) Date: Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:55 am Size: 1K To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Olympus USA seems to be active: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZolympususaQQhtZ-1 On 2/28/06, Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not aware of any camera company hawking their own wares on eBay -- I imagine the retailers would object and respond by not stocking Pentax. -Aaron -Original Message- From: Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!) Date: Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:35 am Size: 493 bytes To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net On Feb 28, 2006, at 11:07 AM, Aaron Reynolds wrote: I don't know about the USA situation, but here in Canada they ARE sitting on the warehouse shelves. In many cases they had a lens for five years before it sold and did not re-order. Heck, they have brand new, 20 year old A* lenses up here. Have they not discovered eBay? Bob From the moment I picked up your book until I laid it down, I was convulsed with laughter. Some day I intend reading it. -.Groucho Marx -- Perry Pellechia Primary email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alternate email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://homer.chem.sc.edu/perry
Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
On Feb 28, 2006, at 11:44 AM, Aaron Reynolds wrote: I'm not aware of any camera company hawking their own wares on eBay -- I imagine the retailers would object and respond by not stocking Pentax. You'd be surprised who is selling on eBay, not necessarily under their actual names. Bob
Poor FA* lens sales
Here are my reasons why FA* lenses might have been poor. First off, the FA* lenses were intended to hit professional grade specs such as the F2.8 28-70 and 80-200 zooms, big fast telephotos, etc. Pentax never shipped a body that matched them and met similar professional grade specs. Their top body was the (P)Z-1p, which did not match the EOS-1 or F-4. When the EOS-1 was replaced with the EOS-1n and later the EOS-1v and the F-4 was replaced with the F-5, Pentax had no answer. Canon and Nikon also added IS/VR and USM/AFS features to their lenses to improve their performance. In addition, Canon and Nikon provide professional level services at, for example, sporting events. The result is that Canon and Nikon are viewed as having professional grade systems while Pentax does not. Regarding total sales, I have to believe that most professional grade lenses are sold to pros, wanna-be pros, and rich folk who want to look like pros. Compared to their numbers, how many dedicated Pentax enthusiasts are there with enough money to buy FA* glass? My guess is not many. --Mark
Re: Some more new camera speculation
On 2006-02-28, at 18:10, K.Takeshita wrote: This could also be an indication that the camera may have a dust/ drip proof seal, if not water proof. Yes, it would be much easier to seal this kind of switch. Nah, from the logical point of view that would be too many good things from Pentax at once - it's impossible :-) -- Best regards Sylwek
Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] I called Adorama this morning to be sure that the order I placed has been cancelled and that my credit card was not charged. I spoke with a fellow named Tobias. He said that the camera is not on backorder, and that he shows two in stock. His suggestion was that I not cancel the order and wait to the end of the day to see if the camera ships. What kind of crap is that. Either the camera is in stock or it's not. Either they can ship or they can't. But to ask a customer to wait and see what happens is ludicrous. What ever happened to service? It is possible that the camera is not physically at the same location as the person you spoke with, therefore he could not personally see it or handle it. If that was the case, there *should* have been a way for him to make a phone call, something, to verify that the product exists. Tom C.
Re: Enablement. Sigma and Mac(and a ?)
On Feb 28, 2006, at 4:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also my Airport Express with AirTunes arrived today. Whoo Hoo. Now i never have to come out of the basement.:-) One question, well two, four is right out. Is there a restriction on cable length from the Express to a stereo. Right now mine would be about 20' away. SNR increases with distance over the wire. For better quality, use good cables and keep the distance from the Airport Express as short as possible. The unit came with software and iTunes. I have iTunes on the iBook, and Airport Wireless is built in. Do i need to install the software or is it already on the computer and i just have to set up the unit from a Wizard. Use the Software Update panel in System Preferences to see if there are any updates to the Airport Admin application, Airport itself, or iTunes. If there are, let them install. If not, just use what's on the computer already. You run the Airport Setup Assistant to do the basic configuration, then you use Airport Admin to tweak settings beyond that. Important: Be sure to turn on at least 128-bit WEP or Personal WPA encryption, which requires you to set a password on the wireless network. Otherwise, you're broadcasting everything you communicate in clear text across the network for anyone to capture with a sniffer. For an Airport Express, unless it's a very very recent production, there will likely be a firmware update available when you first start to configure it. The Airport Setup Assistant will ask you if you want to install it. Do so. Godfrey
Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
Interesting, he must have some connection with Olympus because he seems to have sold thousands of Oly products and nothing else. On 2/28/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you check the ID history you'll find that this seller is ~not~ Olympus camera company, but just some jamoke using a name that implies there may be a connection to Olympus. Shel From: Perry Pellechia Olympus USA seems to be active: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZolympususaQQhtZ-1 Aaron Reynolds wrote: I'm not aware of any camera company hawking their own wares on eBay -- -- Perry Pellechia Primary email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alternate email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://homer.chem.sc.edu/perry
Re: Card Reader Speed
On Feb 28, 2006, at 9:11 AM, Ryan Brooks wrote: Look up its specs on the web ... based on the name you provided, it might be the Olympus MAUSB-5W unit at this page: http://www.olympus-europa.com/consumer/198_MAUSB-5W.htm That's a USB 1.1 spec device. USB 1.1 is not particularly useful with the data volumes involved when you're using high resolution cameras and RAW format files, where 1G storage cards are the baseline. USB 1.1 is approximately 30-40x slower than USB 2.0 ... FYI- I'm using a Lexar Firewire CompactFlash Readerand for whatever reason, I find it to be faster than USB2.0 readers by a substantial amount. Even Lexar's own USB reader, which looks almost identical, is slower. I have one too. I don't find it to be faster by a substantial amount, but it is faster. The difference is between just under 3 minutes for a 1G card with USB 2.0 to just under 2.5 minutes with the FireWire reader. I use the USB 2.0 8-in-1 reader because it's more convenient, the extra 25 seconds is within my patience zone, and it's compatible with a wider range of devices and computers. Godfrey
Re: Re: Some more new camera speculation
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 03:56:56PM +, mike wilson wrote: From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/02/28 Tue PM 03:49:23 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Some more new camera speculation mike wilson wrote on 28.02.06 16:45: I'm more interested in what is meant by progressive replacement. PZ contacts could be used for USM? Yes, they could, as in their patent (KAF3?), which I've sent in PDF file to a few people. That would be progressive replacement, as most people seem to agree that PZ was not a good implementation of technology. Hmm. So if the power contacts come back, presumably we would get at least one more digital signal pin to control the in-lens features (including, but not necessarily limited to, USM motors). Additionally both the new body and the new lenses would have to include the old AF system as well, or we lose compatibility. Replacement of mechanical aperture linkage with (effectively) nothing is not progressive It depends on how you look at it. Switching to an all-electronic interface (as Canon did when they introduced the EOS mount) was progress (and means they don't have the same sort of compatibility problems mentioned above with the AF system). When DA lenses started to show up, without aperture rings, it was obvious that any future cameras would have to incorporate body-mounted aperture control. The one substantive complaint about body-centric control (it's not as precise as a mechanical system on the lens) can easily be overcome if there's a simple aperture encoder in the lens (as is done now for focal length, etc., in the FA zoom lenses).
Re: Card Reader Speed
I second what Godfrey wrote. Just recently I purchased a very inexpensive 8-in-1 card reader that seems to provide adequate speed for SD cards: ($12.99 at buy.com) Hawking's Card Reader, 8-IN-1 USB 2.0 CARD READER - HCR8U2 For just SD cards, I am rather happy with IOGear -GFR202SDW6 http://www.buy.com/prod/IOGear_GFR202SDW6_Hi_Speed_USB_2_0_Memory_Card_Reader_Wr iter_for_SD/q/loc/101/202004750.html ($11.99, also on buy.com) I haven't done comprehensive tests, but both seem to provide full read/write speed for 60x cards (i.e. the readers do not seem to constitute the bottle neck). Igor On Feb 28, 2006, at 7:46 AM, Jack Davis wrote: I'm sure virtually everyone has long since gone well beyond this tech level, but how do I determine the down load/write speed of my Olympus Camedia USB Dual Slot Reader-Writer? Bought this 'prox 5 years ago to read CF cards from a 1.3mp compact. I'm now beginning to wonder about its adequacy in handling large files from a 10mp DSLR.
Re: Card Reader Speed
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Feb 28, 2006, at 9:11 AM, Ryan Brooks wrote: Look up its specs on the web ... based on the name you provided, it might be the Olympus MAUSB-5W unit at this page: http://www.olympus-europa.com/consumer/198_MAUSB-5W.htm That's a USB 1.1 spec device. USB 1.1 is not particularly useful with the data volumes involved when you're using high resolution cameras and RAW format files, where 1G storage cards are the baseline. USB 1.1 is approximately 30-40x slower than USB 2.0 ... FYI- I'm using a Lexar Firewire CompactFlash Readerand for whatever reason, I find it to be faster than USB2.0 readers by a substantial amount. Even Lexar's own USB reader, which looks almost identical, is slower. I have one too. I don't find it to be faster by a substantial amount, but it is faster. The difference is between just under 3 minutes for a 1G card with USB 2.0 to just under 2.5 minutes with the FireWire reader. I'm doing 4G downloads most of the time, which makes a big difference for me. -Ryan
RE: Poor FA* lens sales
That's probably true, Mark. The problem seems to be, that those who can afford/need FA* glass, could also afford a pro spec'ed camera body, which unfortunately is not available with a K-mount. It seems like Pentax have chosen to discontinue the pro level lenses, rather than indtroducing a pro-level body! For less spec-demanding shooting, like portrait and lansdcape, the *ist DSLR's are OK. So will the awaited 10 MP SAMSUNG/PENTAX body, probably be. Pro level lenses can be purchased from Sigma, Tamron and Tokina, though. So, Pentax could actually have offered a pro level body. Those who did or tried to (Contax, Leica, Olympus, Minolta) don't seem to have been very successful, though! Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Mark Erickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 28. februar 2006 18:29 Til: pentax-discuss Emne: Poor FA* lens sales Here are my reasons why FA* lenses might have been poor. First off, the FA* lenses were intended to hit professional grade specs such as the F2.8 28-70 and 80-200 zooms, big fast telephotos, etc. Pentax never shipped a body that matched them and met similar professional grade specs. Their top body was the (P)Z-1p, which did not match the EOS-1 or F-4. When the EOS-1 was replaced with the EOS-1n and later the EOS-1v and the F-4 was replaced with the F-5, Pentax had no answer. Canon and Nikon also added IS/VR and USM/AFS features to their lenses to improve their performance. In addition, Canon and Nikon provide professional level services at, for example, sporting events. The result is that Canon and Nikon are viewed as having professional grade systems while Pentax does not. Regarding total sales, I have to believe that most professional grade lenses are sold to pros, wanna-be pros, and rich folk who want to look like pros. Compared to their numbers, how many dedicated Pentax enthusiasts are there with enough money to buy FA* glass? My guess is not many. --Mark -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/271 - Release Date: 02/28/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/271 - Release Date: 02/28/2006
Re: Enablement. Sigma and Mac(and a ?)
On Feb 28, 2006, at 4:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also my Airport Express with AirTunes arrived today. Whoo Hoo. Now i never have to come out of the basement.:-) One question, well two, four is right out. Is there a restriction on cable length from the Express to a stereo. Right now mine would be about 20' away. SNR increases with distance over the wire. For better quality, use good cables and keep the distance from the Airport Express as short as possible. Ok. I forgot about that. I'll be moving my desk downstais one day, so then it would be about 8-10 feet away. The unit came with software and iTunes. I have iTunes on the iBook, and Airport Wireless is built in. Do i need to install the software or is it already on the computer and i just have to set up the unit from a Wizard. Use the Software Update panel in System Preferences to see if there are any updates to the Airport Admin application, Airport itself, or iTunes. If there are, let them install. If not, just use what's on the computer already. You run the Airport Setup Assistant to do the basic configuration, then you use Airport Admin to tweak settings beyond that. Ok. Important: Be sure to turn on at least 128-bit WEP or Personal WPA encryption, which requires you to set a password on the wireless network. Otherwise, you're broadcasting everything you communicate in clear text across the network for anyone to capture with a sniffer. For an Airport Express, unless it's a very very recent production, there will likely be a firmware update available when you first start to configure it. The Airport Setup Assistant will ask you if you want to install it. Do so. Ok, see this is why i ask questions.vbg Dave Godfrey
Re: Card Reader Speed
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Feb 28, 2006, at 9:11 AM, Ryan Brooks wrote: Look up its specs on the web ... based on the name you provided, it might be the Olympus MAUSB-5W unit at this page: http://www.olympus-europa.com/consumer/198_MAUSB-5W.htm That's a USB 1.1 spec device. USB 1.1 is not particularly useful with the data volumes involved when you're using high resolution cameras and RAW format files, where 1G storage cards are the baseline. USB 1.1 is approximately 30-40x slower than USB 2.0 ... FYI- I'm using a Lexar Firewire CompactFlash Readerand for whatever reason, I find it to be faster than USB2.0 readers by a substantial amount. Even Lexar's own USB reader, which looks almost identical, is slower. I have one too. I don't find it to be faster by a substantial amount, but it is faster. The difference is between just under 3 minutes for a 1G card with USB 2.0 to just under 2.5 minutes with the FireWire reader. I use the USB 2.0 8-in-1 reader because it's more convenient, the extra 25 seconds is within my patience zone, and it's compatible with a wider range of devices and computers. Godfrey Reportedly the fastest option is the Delkin Cardbus CF reader, it's apparently around 4x faster than most USB2.0 readers. But it's CF only. -Adam
Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
On Feb 28, 2006, at 1:02 PM, Perry Pellechia wrote: Interesting, he must have some connection with Olympus because he seems to have sold thousands of Oly products and nothing else. Before the days of eBay, Pentax USA used to publish a magazine for Pentax users. I got it for years. In the middle were two pages with special offers. Often they put slow-moving inventory on there at very low prices. I remember that I bought several of the bulk film backs for the LX when they had those on offer. They went for something like $ 65 each, as I recall, a fraction of their former price. I'll have to look and see if I still have any copies of that magazine. It was all color and very nicely printed, with useful articles and lots of great photos. I was really sad when they decided to stop publishing it. Bob
Re: Card Reader Speed
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 08:54:12AM -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: USB 1.1 reader devices were fine when the average card capacity was 16-64Mbytes. With 1G and larger cards becoming the norm, they're no longer useful. A good 8-in-1 USB card reader (I use a Belkin) now costs on the order of $15-30, so it's not an enormous expense. Godfrey That's fine if it's the reader that is the problem. In my case it's my laptop computer that's limited to USB 1.1, so at present I have to live with USB 1.1 speeds (or use the PCMCIA CF adapter, which isn't really any faster). While the computer does have firewire, it's a 4-pin (unpowered) socket, so I can't use my Lexar firewire CF reader. I don't know if the PCMCIA socket accepts the faster cardbus devices; if it does, I could probably get some improvement going that route. Failing that, there are third-party devices that inject power into a firewire connection (either from a USB socket or a separate wallwart).
Re: Card Reader Speed
Igor, Link not working. At least, not at the moment. Thanks for all good information. Jack --- Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I second what Godfrey wrote. Just recently I purchased a very inexpensive 8-in-1 card reader that seems to provide adequate speed for SD cards: ($12.99 at buy.com) Hawking's Card Reader, 8-IN-1 USB 2.0 CARD READER - HCR8U2 For just SD cards, I am rather happy with IOGear -GFR202SDW6 http://www.buy.com/prod/IOGear_GFR202SDW6_Hi_Speed_USB_2_0_Memory_Card_Reader_Wr iter_for_SD/q/loc/101/202004750.html ($11.99, also on buy.com) I haven't done comprehensive tests, but both seem to provide full read/write speed for 60x cards (i.e. the readers do not seem to constitute the bottle neck). Igor On Feb 28, 2006, at 7:46 AM, Jack Davis wrote: I'm sure virtually everyone has long since gone well beyond this tech level, but how do I determine the down load/write speed of my Olympus Camedia USB Dual Slot Reader-Writer? Bought this 'prox 5 years ago to read CF cards from a 1.3mp compact. I'm now beginning to wonder about its adequacy in handling large files from a 10mp DSLR. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Poor FA* lens sales
Jens, Considering that Pentax's roadmap indicates at least two Pro-level zooms (16-?? 2.8 and 50-135 2.8), they're very obviously replacing the FA* zooms, not eliminating them. Hopefully the new DA f2.8 zooms are easier to acquire than the rarely found FA*'s were. -Adam Jens Bladt wrote: That's probably true, Mark. The problem seems to be, that those who can afford/need FA* glass, could also afford a pro spec'ed camera body, which unfortunately is not available with a K-mount. It seems like Pentax have chosen to discontinue the pro level lenses, rather than indtroducing a pro-level body! For less spec-demanding shooting, like portrait and lansdcape, the *ist DSLR's are OK. So will the awaited 10 MP SAMSUNG/PENTAX body, probably be. Pro level lenses can be purchased from Sigma, Tamron and Tokina, though. So, Pentax could actually have offered a pro level body. Those who did or tried to (Contax, Leica, Olympus, Minolta) don't seem to have been very successful, though! Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Mark Erickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 28. februar 2006 18:29 Til: pentax-discuss Emne: Poor FA* lens sales Here are my reasons why FA* lenses might have been poor. First off, the FA* lenses were intended to hit professional grade specs such as the F2.8 28-70 and 80-200 zooms, big fast telephotos, etc. Pentax never shipped a body that matched them and met similar professional grade specs. Their top body was the (P)Z-1p, which did not match the EOS-1 or F-4. When the EOS-1 was replaced with the EOS-1n and later the EOS-1v and the F-4 was replaced with the F-5, Pentax had no answer. Canon and Nikon also added IS/VR and USM/AFS features to their lenses to improve their performance. In addition, Canon and Nikon provide professional level services at, for example, sporting events. The result is that Canon and Nikon are viewed as having professional grade systems while Pentax does not. Regarding total sales, I have to believe that most professional grade lenses are sold to pros, wanna-be pros, and rich folk who want to look like pros. Compared to their numbers, how many dedicated Pentax enthusiasts are there with enough money to buy FA* glass? My guess is not many. --Mark -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/271 - Release Date: 02/28/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/271 - Release Date: 02/28/2006
Re: Card Reader Speed
Thanks to all. Great information which has been archived. Jack --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Feb 28, 2006, at 9:11 AM, Ryan Brooks wrote: Look up its specs on the web ... based on the name you provided, it might be the Olympus MAUSB-5W unit at this page: http://www.olympus-europa.com/consumer/198_MAUSB-5W.htm That's a USB 1.1 spec device. USB 1.1 is not particularly useful with the data volumes involved when you're using high resolution cameras and RAW format files, where 1G storage cards are the baseline. USB 1.1 is approximately 30-40x slower than USB 2.0 ... FYI- I'm using a Lexar Firewire CompactFlash Readerand for whatever reason, I find it to be faster than USB2.0 readers by a substantial amount. Even Lexar's own USB reader, which looks almost identical, is slower. I have one too. I don't find it to be faster by a substantial amount, but it is faster. The difference is between just under 3 minutes for a 1G card with USB 2.0 to just under 2.5 minutes with the FireWire reader. I use the USB 2.0 8-in-1 reader because it's more convenient, the extra 25 seconds is within my patience zone, and it's compatible with a wider range of devices and computers. Godfrey Reportedly the fastest option is the Delkin Cardbus CF reader, it's apparently around 4x faster than most USB2.0 readers. But it's CF only. -Adam __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Card Reader Speed
John Francis wrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 08:54:12AM -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: USB 1.1 reader devices were fine when the average card capacity was 16-64Mbytes. With 1G and larger cards becoming the norm, they're no longer useful. A good 8-in-1 USB card reader (I use a Belkin) now costs on the order of $15-30, so it's not an enormous expense. Godfrey That's fine if it's the reader that is the problem. In my case it's my laptop computer that's limited to USB 1.1, so at present I have to live with USB 1.1 speeds (or use the PCMCIA CF adapter, which isn't really any faster). While the computer does have firewire, it's a 4-pin (unpowered) socket, so I can't use my Lexar firewire CF reader. I don't know if the PCMCIA socket accepts the faster cardbus devices; if it does, I could probably get some improvement going that route. Failing that, there are third-party devices that inject power into a firewire connection (either from a USB socket or a separate wallwart). If it's new enough to have USB, it likely has a Cardbus slot. But I've found that even PC Card CF adaptors are much faster than USB 1.1 (I use a Sandisk PC Card adaptor myself, PC Card is PCMCIA with an easier acronymn). -Adam
Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
He doesn't need any greater connection than an account with Olympus and a catalog. If you called up Pentax and had good credit references and a legit business or business plan, they'd surely wholesale to you unless you'd be affecting another existing dealer. -Aaron -Original Message- From: Perry Pellechia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!) Date: Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:02 pm Size: 875 bytes To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Interesting, he must have some connection with Olympus because he seems to have sold thousands of Oly products and nothing else. On 2/28/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you check the ID history you'll find that this seller is ~not~ Olympus camera company, but just some jamoke using a name that implies there may be a connection to Olympus. Shel From: Perry Pellechia Olympus USA seems to be active: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZolympususaQQhtZ-1 Aaron Reynolds wrote: I'm not aware of any camera company hawking their own wares on eBay -- -- Perry Pellechia Primary email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alternate email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://homer.chem.sc.edu/perry
Re: Card Reader Speed
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 01:20:42PM -0500, Adam Maas wrote: Reportedly the fastest option is the Delkin Cardbus CF reader, it's apparently around 4x faster than most USB2.0 readers. But it's CF only. -Adam They now offer a 5-in-one version that reads SD as well. Or I suppose you could use a CF-to-SD adapter. And apparently my notebook *is* cardbus-ready, so I can use these devices. I think a CF one will be heading this way soon.
Re: PAW and GESO
Re the Gallery - the background color is an improvement. I'm not sure I'd settle on that in the long run though. Still comes across as somewhat drab. All else is fine IMHO. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PAW and GESO Hi all, I've been doing some more scanning at last :) I've almost finished my slides from January 2000. Here is a PAW - Gondola Terminal: http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/printsdb/view.php?p=283t=1 And since I've finally finished my new gallery system, I made a quick gallery of my latest scans (the pic above is part of it): http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/printsdb/galleries/view.php?g=31 I'd appreciate any feedback on either the photos or the new gallery format. On the surface it's not much different to the concept I showed last week, but I've made a lot of changes under the hood. It's now fully compatible with all the browsers I've checked with, and is even viewable with Javascript switched off. I also made a few changes to the layout to allow it to fit reasonably well on smaller screens. I might change the background texture later - that's been on my to-do list but I haven't had time to fiddle with it. Cheers, - Dave
