Re: D and flash circuit problem

2006-08-06 Thread Don Williams
It happened to me with a new camera straight out of the box. It was 
replaced by the importers. It is/was quite a well known problem.

Don

David J Brooks wrote:
> Sounds like a problem.
> 
> My D will show a depleated battery after a few pop up flash shots,  
> even when full AA liths.
> My problem is the flash flashes, but out of 10 shots, i';ll get 2-3  
> pictures, the rest are blank screens.
> 
> Dave
> 
> Quoting Thibouille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>> My brother just got an ist-D (from Ebay) and has a flash/battery problem.
>>
>> When you pops out the flash it will show a low battery alarm and fire
>> anyway but without any flash. I tried to swap everything with my own D
>> (swap batteries, CF, lens) and nothing beter.
>> Tried batteries were fully charged 2000Nimh, 2500Nimh and AA Lithiums.
>> They do all fail but only in its body, mine works fine.
>>
>> Its serial number is: 5752412. I understood there are comon problem
>> with the flash circuitry. Is that such a case?
>> * Can it be repaired easily or should my brother return it immediately
>> to the seller?
>> * If it is a known issue, would Pentax repair it even outside warranty scope?
>>
>> Thanks for your much appreciated help.
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Re: 2 PESOS: yeah yeah my kitty cat

2006-08-06 Thread Doug Franklin
Ann Sanfedele wrote:

> Silver tabby is what she is alright - at the momment she
> only weighs 7 lbs.
> She is about 11 months old.  Opinions vary on who much
> larger she will get.

If she's 7# at 11 months, she probably won't get much bigger.  I'd guess
10# absolute top end, and more likely around 8#.

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Re: K10D - More News

2006-08-06 Thread David Mann
On Aug 6, 2006, at 8:31 AM, Bob W wrote:

> My mobile phone has a ringtone that's like an old-fashioned phone with
> a bell - so it sounds like Sam Spade's office when it rings.

If I actually used my cellphone a lot I'd consider one of these:
http://www.firebox.com/?dir=firebox&action=product&pid=1044

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Re: K10D - More News

2006-08-06 Thread David Mann
On Aug 5, 2006, at 11:32 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

> Thirdly, i have the grip foir the 200 and it helps in balance, but the
> feel is just not there for me, but its close.

I got to play with a D200 the other day.  The anti-shake is a little  
disconcerting: my brain knew that the viewfinder image should be  
wobbling but it wasn't.  I definitely want anti-shake for my macro  
lens as I usually can't be bothered hauling the tripod with the  
little cameras.

The only thing I didn't like about it was the positioning of the  
shutter release (too high).

However for the price of even the cheapest DSLR I could probably  
stock up with enough film for the rest of my life at the rate I'm  
shooting.

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Re: K10D - More News

2006-08-06 Thread David Mann
On Aug 6, 2006, at 12:47 AM, William Robb wrote:

> They could stock it, but it most likely would sit on the shelf till  
> hell
> freezes over or the Rolling Stones play two shows in Regina,
> Saskatchewan.
> Oops, that's already happenning.

That knock on the head must have done Keith Richards some real damage.

:)

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Re: 2 PESOS: yeah yeah my kitty cat

2006-08-06 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Doug Franklin wrote:
> 
> Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4772812
> 
> Looks a lot like one of my "males", a 18 pound silver tabby.  He likes
> that same "I'm a porn star, here's my belly" pose. :-)
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Silver tabby is what she is alright - at the momment she
only weighs 7 lbs.
She is about 11 months old.  Opinions vary on who much
larger she will get.

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Re: OT: Please identify this bird

2006-08-06 Thread Ann Sanfedele
He's a black crowned night heron, Francis

I met him near Lake MErritt last year :)

ann



Francis Alviar wrote:
> 
> This bird showed up out of nowhere while my daughter
> was feeding the ducks at a local park.
> 
> The ducks were avoiding it like the plague.  Probably
> due to the huge beak and menacing eyes.
> 
> Anyway just want to know what the name of this bird
> is.  Apologies for the cropped pic on #2.  Had to rush
> to take the photos while he still had the fish in his
> beak.
> 
> Oh and also these are the first shots from my recently
> acquired DA 16-45mm lens.  The photos are labeled in
> the gallery for anybody who cares to see.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Francis
> 
> #1
> http://www.pbase.com/freckles/image/64742228
> #2
> http://www.pbase.com/freckles/image/64742229
> #3
> http://www.pbase.com/freckles/image/64742232
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Re: OT: Please identify this bird

2006-08-06 Thread skye
Black-crowned Night Heron.

On 8/6/06, Francis Alviar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This bird showed up out of nowhere while my daughter
> was feeding the ducks at a local park.
>
> The ducks were avoiding it like the plague.  Probably
> due to the huge beak and menacing eyes.
>
> Anyway just want to know what the name of this bird
> is.  Apologies for the cropped pic on #2.  Had to rush
> to take the photos while he still had the fish in his
> beak.
>
> Oh and also these are the first shots from my recently
> acquired DA 16-45mm lens.  The photos are labeled in
> the gallery for anybody who cares to see.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Francis
>
> #1
> http://www.pbase.com/freckles/image/64742228
> #2
> http://www.pbase.com/freckles/image/64742229
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Re: PESO: My Chevy

2006-08-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
Not quite sure what I how I typed that - meant to say 'perhaps even
cliche picture DONE excellently'

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Sunday, August 6, 2006, 8:45:30 PM, you wrote:

BD> A very classic - perhaps even cliche picture doesn't excellently.  A
BD> pleasure to view.  Nicely done.

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BD> Bruce


BD> Sunday, August 6, 2006, 7:19:59 PM, you wrote:

PS>> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4774311&size=lg







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Re: 2 PESOS: yeah yeah my kitty cat

2006-08-06 Thread Doug Franklin
Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4772812

Looks a lot like one of my "males", a 18 pound silver tabby.  He likes
that same "I'm a porn star, here's my belly" pose. :-)

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Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-06 Thread Doug Franklin
Kenneth Waller wrote:

> The extra cost I'm thinking about is the premium cost for the hybrid 
> drivetrain over a similar sized vehicle.
> 
> In the hybrid Escape, for example, the cost over a similar non hybrid Escape 
> is in the range of several thousand $. Well worth the money if you're mostly 
> in city traffic, more of a questionable worth for mostly highway driving.

In the Ford/Mercury line, the hybrid drive train costs about the same
amount extra as a diesel drive train (not necessarily in the same model)
... about $5k over the same vehicle with a pure-gasoline drive train.

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Re: PESO - a little slice of pond

2006-08-06 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Dayton" 
Subject: Re: PESO - a little slice of pond


> My intention with the DOF was to keep it somewhat shallow - I wanted
> the reeds to be sharply focused and the reflection to be slightly OOF
> to emphasize the separation between the two.
> 
> I'll have to look more at the cropping that you suggest.  Thanks for
> looking and commenting.


http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/bkd_3244_std.jpg
I'd be taking a blur tool to the background.

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Re: PESO: My Chevy

2006-08-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
A very classic - perhaps even cliche picture doesn't excellently.  A
pleasure to view.  Nicely done.

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Sunday, August 6, 2006, 7:19:59 PM, you wrote:

PS> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4774311&size=lg




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Re: PESO - a little slice of pond

2006-08-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hmmmcertainly one of the problems with a shot containing a
reflection is that it can be disorienting.  As this is the second
comment in a row concerning this one, perhaps it doesn't work too
well.  Hopefully there will be a few more comments to help solidify
the feeling.  The couple people I show the image to here rather like
it.

Anyway, thank you for sharing your feelings - it always helps to
improve my work.

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Sunday, August 6, 2006, 7:24:15 PM, you wrote:

PS> Interesting, but it makes me dizzy. Is there a better pic here after
PS> cropping. Perhaps you need to get rid of the tree trunk and  
PS> everything to the left of it.
PS> Paul
PS> On Aug 6, 2006, at 8:34 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

>> This is the last of the pond shots for awhile.  This was an attempt to
>> isolate and simplify and hopefully give a feeling of peacefulness that
>> is present.
>>
>> Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, handheld
>> ISO 200, 1/250 sec @ f/5.6
>>
>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3244.htm
>>
>> Comments welcome
>>
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Re: PESO - a little slice of pond

2006-08-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
My intention with the DOF was to keep it somewhat shallow - I wanted
the reeds to be sharply focused and the reflection to be slightly OOF
to emphasize the separation between the two.

I'll have to look more at the cropping that you suggest.  Thanks for
looking and commenting.

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Sunday, August 6, 2006, 6:10:11 PM, you wrote:


WR> - Original Message - 
WR> From: "Bruce Dayton"
WR> Subject: PESO - a little slice of pond


>> This is the last of the pond shots for awhile.  This was an attempt to
>> isolate and simplify and hopefully give a feeling of peacefulness that
>> is present.
>>
>> Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, handheld
>> ISO 200, 1/250 sec @ f/5.6
>>
>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3244.htm
>>
>> Comments welcome
>>

WR> I like the concept, but
WR> the dark tree trunk on the left is very disturbing, and I think it needs
WR> either less or more depth of field. The tree reflection in the 
WR> background is just at the point of being annoyingly out of focus.
WR> I see a really nice picture in this one, but it needs a crop to get
WR> there.

WR> William Robb







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Re: PESO: Massage

2006-08-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
This one really doesn't do anything for me.  I think it is the closed
eyes of both of them that really make me lose any kind of interest or
connection.

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Sunday, August 6, 2006, 7:17:48 PM, you wrote:

PS> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4774310




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Re: Pug Comments

2006-08-06 Thread Joseph Tainter
"As stated, well done people."

Thanks, Dave, for all your comments.

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OT: Please identify this bird

2006-08-06 Thread Francis Alviar
This bird showed up out of nowhere while my daughter
was feeding the ducks at a local park.

The ducks were avoiding it like the plague.  Probably
due to the huge beak and menacing eyes.

Anyway just want to know what the name of this bird
is.  Apologies for the cropped pic on #2.  Had to rush
to take the photos while he still had the fish in his
beak.

Oh and also these are the first shots from my recently
acquired DA 16-45mm lens.  The photos are labeled in
the gallery for anybody who cares to see.

Thanks.


Francis

#1
http://www.pbase.com/freckles/image/64742228
#2
http://www.pbase.com/freckles/image/64742229
#3
http://www.pbase.com/freckles/image/64742232

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Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-06 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Aug 06, 2006 at 07:06:05PM -0600, William Robb wrote:
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mark Roberts"
> Subject: Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system
> 
> 
> > Kenneth Waller wrote:
> >
> >>Mark, as you're probably aware, the mileage you can expect with a 
> >>hybrid is
> >>very dependent upon your driving cycle, (city/highway) among other 
> >>things.
> >>If your 65 mile commute is mostly highway you will not see the kick in
> >>mileage that the hybrids are noted for. The extra cost of a hybrid 
> >>would go
> >>a long way to pay for your yearly fuel bill.
> >
> > Well, it certainly gets better highway mileage (~50 hwy) than what I'm
> > driving now (~33). And I'm really concerned with reducing my
> > consumption of petroleum as much as the cost of it. We're probably
> > going to spend about $24,000 no matter *what* kind of car we get, so
> > there really is no extra cost for us.
> >
> > By Tuesday my current 50 mpg vehicle should be on the road, too :)
> 
> We've made two round trips to Calgary in my wife's Nissan X-Trail. it 
> seems to get something close to 40mp(imperial)g travelling at 110kph.
> Quite amazing actually.
> My truck more than makes up for it.
> 
> William Robb 

While my current vehicle seems to be averaging around 23 mpg, that's
still better than a 50% improvement over the car it replaced.  And
my wife gets better than that in her Mini, which does 3 or 4 times
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Re: FS Friday: genuine LX ER case

2006-08-06 Thread John Bailey
Niko,

I am interested in buying the case.  Is it still
available?

John
smctak (at) sbcglobal (dot) net

>I offer for sale a somewhat worn genuine LX
ever-ready >is not detoriating or chipping.
>But the top half is worn, both inside and out, see
the >pics. It´s still 
>usable, doesn´t release any dirt on the camera...
>Luckily, the lower 
>half is in much more nice condition.

I am asking for 25EUR, which includes worlwide
shipping from Finland. 
PayPal or bank transfer.

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Re: Massage

2006-08-06 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Aug 6, 2006, at 10:46 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:

> Looks more like they're praying !

That's why I pulled the trigger on this one.

> Doesn't do much for me.

Okay. Thanks for looking.
Paul
>
> Kenneth Waller
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: PESO: Massage
>
>
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Re: Massage

2006-08-06 Thread Kenneth Waller
Looks more like they're praying !
Doesn't do much for me.

Kenneth Waller

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Re: PESO - a little slice of pond

2006-08-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
Interesting, but it makes me dizzy. Is there a better pic here after  
cropping. Perhaps you need to get rid of the tree trunk and  
everything to the left of it.
Paul
On Aug 6, 2006, at 8:34 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

> This is the last of the pond shots for awhile.  This was an attempt to
> isolate and simplify and hopefully give a feeling of peacefulness that
> is present.
>
> Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, handheld
> ISO 200, 1/250 sec @ f/5.6
>
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3244.htm
>
> Comments welcome
>
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PESO: My Chevy

2006-08-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4774311&size=lg

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PESO: Massage

2006-08-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4774310

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Re: 2 PESOS: yeah yeah my kitty cat

2006-08-06 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Jack Davis wrote:
> 
> You mean the "Spaying bag" isn't for holding the ovaries after removal?
> Humm..thought I had it. :]
> 
> Jack
> 


eeeuweueue
too much information :)

ann
who was just making a pun only young fashionistas are apt to
get.



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> > Jack Davis wrote:
> > >
> > > Ann, I prefer the "other" shot. (what's a spayed bag?)
> >
> > Well I guess I have to let the cat out of the bag...
> > ever hear of KATE SPADE? she makes handbags --
> > So I'm going to make a simple design, with a kitty headshot
> > that says "genuine CAT SPAYED" to put on totes on my
> > cafepress store.
> >
> > > Like the impatient straight on look.
> > > Also, like the soft misty 'porn' look. (didn't let my cat see it)
> > ;-))
> > >
> > > Jack
> >
> > I 'm pleased with it - I took a lot of shots of her in the
> > position more or less but
> > she would move, or I'd shake the camera - I think, actually,
> > I got this look by
> > accident, either from flipping a switch that said gausian
> > blur or my lens was smudgy.
> >
> > I've taken sharp pics since so I'm not sure what the story
> > is.
> >
> > I have 3 votes for "other " so far and one for the one on
> > photonet...
> >
> > :) ann
> >
> >
> > >
> > > --- Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4772812
> > > >
> > > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4772782
> > > >
> > > > The first one I call a "genuine cat spayed bag"
> > > >
> > > > Only a few of you will get that reference on this list :)
> > > >
> > > > the second is soft kitty porn.
> > > >
> > > > I was too chicken to title it that on photo.net
> > > >
> > > > I've agonized over which of two cat spayed bag shots to put
> > > > on photo.net
> > > > so I loaded one there and the other one is here
> > > >
> > > > If you have any strong opinions one way or the other let me
> > > > know - I've been flip flopping
> > > > over which one I like better for an hour... only want to
> > > > show one on photo.net.
> > > >
> > > > here is the other shot:
> > > > http://users.rcn.com/annsan/catspayedbag2.jpg
> > > >
> > > > I have a feeling the 2007 cat calendar is going to be all
> > > > one cat :) :)
> > > >
> > > > Meow
> > > > ann
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Re: PESO - a little slice of pond

2006-08-06 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
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Subject: PESO - a little slice of pond


> This is the last of the pond shots for awhile.  This was an attempt to
> isolate and simplify and hopefully give a feeling of peacefulness that
> is present.
>
> Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, handheld
> ISO 200, 1/250 sec @ f/5.6
>
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3244.htm
>
> Comments welcome
>

I like the concept, but
the dark tree trunk on the left is very disturbing, and I think it needs 
either less or more depth of field. The tree reflection in the 
background is just at the point of being annoyingly out of focus.
I see a really nice picture in this one, but it needs a crop to get 
there.

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Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-06 Thread William Robb

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From: "Mark Roberts"
Subject: Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system


> Kenneth Waller wrote:
>
>>Mark, as you're probably aware, the mileage you can expect with a 
>>hybrid is
>>very dependent upon your driving cycle, (city/highway) among other 
>>things.
>>If your 65 mile commute is mostly highway you will not see the kick in
>>mileage that the hybrids are noted for. The extra cost of a hybrid 
>>would go
>>a long way to pay for your yearly fuel bill.
>
> Well, it certainly gets better highway mileage (~50 hwy) than what I'm
> driving now (~33). And I'm really concerned with reducing my
> consumption of petroleum as much as the cost of it. We're probably
> going to spend about $24,000 no matter *what* kind of car we get, so
> there really is no extra cost for us.
>
> By Tuesday my current 50 mpg vehicle should be on the road, too :)

We've made two round trips to Calgary in my wife's Nissan X-Trail. it 
seems to get something close to 40mp(imperial)g travelling at 110kph.
Quite amazing actually.
My truck more than makes up for it.

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Re: 2 PESOS: yeah yeah my kitty cat

2006-08-06 Thread Jack Davis
You mean the "Spaying bag" isn't for holding the ovaries after removal?
Humm..thought I had it. :]

Jack

--- Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Jack Davis wrote:
> > 
> > Ann, I prefer the "other" shot. (what's a spayed bag?)
> 
> Well I guess I have to let the cat out of the bag...
> ever hear of KATE SPADE? she makes handbags --
> So I'm going to make a simple design, with a kitty headshot
> that says "genuine CAT SPAYED" to put on totes on my
> cafepress store.
> 
> > Like the impatient straight on look.
> > Also, like the soft misty 'porn' look. (didn't let my cat see it)
> ;-))
> > 
> > Jack
> 
> I 'm pleased with it - I took a lot of shots of her in the
> position more or less but
> she would move, or I'd shake the camera - I think, actually,
> I got this look by
> accident, either from flipping a switch that said gausian
> blur or my lens was smudgy.
> 
> I've taken sharp pics since so I'm not sure what the story
> is.  
> 
> I have 3 votes for "other " so far and one for the one on
> photonet...
> 
> :) ann
> 
> 
> > 
> > --- Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4772812
> > >
> > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4772782
> > >
> > > The first one I call a "genuine cat spayed bag"
> > >
> > > Only a few of you will get that reference on this list :)
> > >
> > > the second is soft kitty porn.
> > >
> > > I was too chicken to title it that on photo.net
> > >
> > > I've agonized over which of two cat spayed bag shots to put
> > > on photo.net
> > > so I loaded one there and the other one is here
> > >
> > > If you have any strong opinions one way or the other let me
> > > know - I've been flip flopping
> > > over which one I like better for an hour... only want to
> > > show one on photo.net.
> > >
> > > here is the other shot:
> > > http://users.rcn.com/annsan/catspayedbag2.jpg
> > >
> > > I have a feeling the 2007 cat calendar is going to be all
> > > one cat :) :)
> > >
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PESO - a little slice of pond

2006-08-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
This is the last of the pond shots for awhile.  This was an attempt to
isolate and simplify and hopefully give a feeling of peacefulness that
is present.

Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, handheld
ISO 200, 1/250 sec @ f/5.6

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3244.htm

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Re: 2 PESOS: yeah yeah my kitty cat

2006-08-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
I'm liking the third shot the best.  It comes catches my interest
where most cat shots don't.   I can't count myself among those
who understand the reference.

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Sunday, August 6, 2006, 1:19:20 PM, you wrote:


AS> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4772812

AS> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4772782

AS> The first one I call a "genuine cat spayed bag"

AS> Only a few of you will get that reference on this list :)

AS> the second is soft kitty porn.

AS> I was too chicken to title it that on photo.net

AS> I've agonized over which of two cat spayed bag shots to put
AS> on photo.net
AS> so I loaded one there and the other one is here

AS> If you have any strong opinions one way or the other let me
AS> know - I've been flip flopping
AS> over which one I like better for an hour... only want to
AS> show one on photo.net.

AS> here is the other shot:
AS> http://users.rcn.com/annsan/catspayedbag2.jpg

AS> I have a feeling the 2007 cat calendar is going to be all
AS> one cat :) :)

AS> Meow
AS> ann




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Re: test

2006-08-06 Thread Brendan MacRae
It's true! and now that I set my mail client to text
only I can post to the list, too.

Amazing.

-B

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> On 8/7/06, Brendan MacRae
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Re: 2 PESOS: yeah yeah my kitty cat

2006-08-06 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Thanks Paul - I like the kitty porn one the best as well

I feel lucky to have gotten it

ann

Paul Stenquist wrote:
> 
> Yes, that's my favorite as well. Nice work, Ann.
> Paul
> On Aug 6, 2006, at 5:30 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
> 
> > It's the most interesting kitty porn posted to the list in some
> > time...
> > (ooh, that could be trouble, maybe I should rephrase that...   Naa).
> >
> > Of the other two, they're both nice enough, I prefer this one:
> >
> > http://users.rcn.com/annsan/catspayedbag2.jpg
> >
> >
> >
> > Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> >
> >> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4772812
> >>
> >> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4772782
> >>
> >> The first one I call a "genuine cat spayed bag"
> >>
> >> Only a few of you will get that reference on this list :)
> >>
> >> the second is soft kitty porn.
> >>
> >> I was too chicken to title it that on photo.net
> >>
> >> I've agonized over which of two cat spayed bag shots to put
> >> on photo.net
> >> so I loaded one there and the other one is here
> >>
> >> If you have any strong opinions one way or the other let me
> >> know - I've been flip flopping
> >> over which one I like better for an hour... only want to
> >> show one on photo.net.
> >>
> >> here is the other shot:
> >> http://users.rcn.com/annsan/catspayedbag2.jpg
> >>
> >> I have a feeling the 2007 cat calendar is going to be all
> >> one cat :) :)
> >>
> >> Meow
> >> ann
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: 2 PESOS: yeah yeah my kitty cat

2006-08-06 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Jack Davis wrote:
> 
> Ann, I prefer the "other" shot. (what's a spayed bag?)

Well I guess I have to let the cat out of the bag...
ever hear of KATE SPADE? she makes handbags --
So I'm going to make a simple design, with a kitty headshot
that says "genuine CAT SPAYED" to put on totes on my
cafepress store.

> Like the impatient straight on look.
> Also, like the soft misty 'porn' look. (didn't let my cat see it) ;-))
> 
> Jack

I 'm pleased with it - I took a lot of shots of her in the
position more or less but
she would move, or I'd shake the camera - I think, actually,
I got this look by
accident, either from flipping a switch that said gausian
blur or my lens was smudgy.

I've taken sharp pics since so I'm not sure what the story
is.  

I have 3 votes for "other " so far and one for the one on
photonet...

:) ann


> 
> --- Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >
> > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4772812
> >
> > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4772782
> >
> > The first one I call a "genuine cat spayed bag"
> >
> > Only a few of you will get that reference on this list :)
> >
> > the second is soft kitty porn.
> >
> > I was too chicken to title it that on photo.net
> >
> > I've agonized over which of two cat spayed bag shots to put
> > on photo.net
> > so I loaded one there and the other one is here
> >
> > If you have any strong opinions one way or the other let me
> > know - I've been flip flopping
> > over which one I like better for an hour... only want to
> > show one on photo.net.
> >
> > here is the other shot:
> > http://users.rcn.com/annsan/catspayedbag2.jpg
> >
> > I have a feeling the 2007 cat calendar is going to be all
> > one cat :) :)
> >
> > Meow
> > ann
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Re: 2 PESOS: yeah yeah my kitty cat

2006-08-06 Thread Ann Sanfedele
skye wrote:
> 
> 
> >
> >
> cat person, here. I prefer the one you put on photo net. I like the
> angle, and dare I say I like the lighting? (I've been wrestling with
> lighting issues recently; nothing interesting, just beginner stuff). I
> also like that the cat isn't looking at the camera. I always loved
> looking at my cats when they were being distracted by something and
> trying to figure out what was distracting them.
> 
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HI, Skye 
Well I like it for the reasons you mention... which is why I
put it on photo.net

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Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-06 Thread Kenneth Waller
>We're probably
> going to spend about $24,000 no matter *what* kind of car we get, so
> there really is no extra cost for us.

The extra cost I'm thinking about is the premium cost for the hybrid 
drivetrain over a similar sized vehicle.

In the hybrid Escape, for example, the cost over a similar non hybrid Escape 
is in the range of several thousand $. Well worth the money if you're mostly 
in city traffic, more of a questionable worth for mostly highway driving.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system


> Kenneth Waller wrote:
>
>>Mark, as you're probably aware, the mileage you can expect with a hybrid 
>>is
>>very dependent upon your driving cycle, (city/highway) among other things.
>>If your 65 mile commute is mostly highway you will not see the kick in
>>mileage that the hybrids are noted for. The extra cost of a hybrid would 
>>go
>>a long way to pay for your yearly fuel bill.
>
> Well, it certainly gets better highway mileage (~50 hwy) than what I'm
> driving now (~33). And I'm really concerned with reducing my
> consumption of petroleum as much as the cost of it. We're probably
> going to spend about $24,000 no matter *what* kind of car we get, so
> there really is no extra cost for us.
>
> By Tuesday my current 50 mpg vehicle should be on the road, too :)
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Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-06 Thread Kenneth Waller
> The extra cost of the hybrid power system is warranted on that kind  
> of fuel mileage for me, coupled with the fact that it's a darn nice  
> car which otherwise satisfies my needs well

I'm glad for you Godfrey.

Enjoy.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system


> Money is a small part of the consideration.
> 
> The key, Ken, is that the Prius is a good car. It has a nice, quiet  
> interior, excellent ride and handling, and good power for normal  
> driving needs. On top of that, its highway fuel economy (as reported  
> by several hundred owners over the past five years in the Prius chat  
> rooms and forums) runs in the range of 38-50mpg averages, its city  
> fuel economy runs in the 40-60 mpg averages.
> 
> The extra cost of the hybrid power system is warranted on that kind  
> of fuel mileage for me, coupled with the fact that it's a darn nice  
> car which otherwise satisfies my needs well. The fact that it uses  
> less fuel than most others with its performance/quality makes me feel  
> good about being environmentally friendly as well.
> 
> Godfrey
> 
> 
> On Aug 6, 2006, at 3:49 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:
> 
>> Mark, as you're probably aware, the mileage you can expect with a  
>> hybrid is
>> very dependent upon your driving cycle, (city/highway) among other  
>> things.
>> If your 65 mile commute is mostly highway you will not see the kick in
>> mileage that the hybrids are noted for. The extra cost of a hybrid  
>> would go
>> a long way to pay for your yearly fuel bill.
> 
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Re: 2 PESOS: yeah yeah my kitty cat

2006-08-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yes, that's my favorite as well. Nice work, Ann.
Paul
On Aug 6, 2006, at 5:30 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

> It's the most interesting kitty porn posted to the list in some  
> time...
> (ooh, that could be trouble, maybe I should rephrase that...   Naa).
>
> Of the other two, they're both nice enough, I prefer this one:
>
> http://users.rcn.com/annsan/catspayedbag2.jpg
>
>
>
> Ann Sanfedele wrote:
>
>> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4772812
>>
>> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4772782
>>
>> The first one I call a "genuine cat spayed bag"
>>
>> Only a few of you will get that reference on this list :)
>>
>> the second is soft kitty porn.
>>
>> I was too chicken to title it that on photo.net
>>
>> I've agonized over which of two cat spayed bag shots to put
>> on photo.net
>> so I loaded one there and the other one is here
>>
>> If you have any strong opinions one way or the other let me
>> know - I've been flip flopping
>> over which one I like better for an hour... only want to
>> show one on photo.net.
>>
>> here is the other shot:
>> http://users.rcn.com/annsan/catspayedbag2.jpg
>>
>> I have a feeling the 2007 cat calendar is going to be all
>> one cat :) :)
>>
>> Meow
>> ann
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-06 Thread Adam Maas
Agreed,

If it's mostly highway, get a Rabbit or Jetta TDI, they get amazing 
highway mileage with good all-round performance. The Hybrid will do 
better in the city though, partially due to regenerative braking. The 
Prius gets notably better city mileage than it does on the highway.

-Adam


Kenneth Waller wrote:
> Mark, as you're probably aware, the mileage you can expect with a hybrid is 
> very dependent upon your driving cycle, (city/highway) among other things. 
> If your 65 mile commute is mostly highway you will not see the kick in 
> mileage that the hybrids are noted for. The extra cost of a hybrid would go 
> a long way to pay for your yearly fuel bill.
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system
> 
> 
> 
>>Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Heya Bob, and others who are interested...
>>>
>>>The best description I've found of the Synergy Drive and the
>>>operation of the "power split device" as CVT is available from these
>>>pages:
>>>   http://www.ecrostech.com/prius/
>>>
>>>You can see from the text and diagrams lots of info that details how
>>>the engine and electric motors, combined with the planetary gearset
>>>in the power split device, work to provide a very different take on
>>>the concept of "continuously variable transmission".
>>>
>>>Curiously, the Honda Insight forum pages also have excellent
>>>technical information about the Prius and how differs from the
>>>Insight drive system design:
>>>  http://www.insightcentral.net/
>>>
>>>I found these through the Wikipedia site at
>>>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Prius
>>>
>>>Truly a fascinating design. Can't wait for my car to get here!
>>
>>Same here... except that my local dealer has one in stock! Test drove
>>it on Friday. Dr. Lisa is going to check it out Monday or Tuesday (in
>>Pennsylvania car dealers are prohibited by law from doing business on
>>Sunday! It's like living in Saudi friggin' Arabia!) and they we'll
>>decide if we're going to get it.
>>We've been considering it for a while but the 65 mile commute to my
>>new job was the tipping point...
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Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Money is a small part of the consideration.

The key, Ken, is that the Prius is a good car. It has a nice, quiet  
interior, excellent ride and handling, and good power for normal  
driving needs. On top of that, its highway fuel economy (as reported  
by several hundred owners over the past five years in the Prius chat  
rooms and forums) runs in the range of 38-50mpg averages, its city  
fuel economy runs in the 40-60 mpg averages.

The extra cost of the hybrid power system is warranted on that kind  
of fuel mileage for me, coupled with the fact that it's a darn nice  
car which otherwise satisfies my needs well. The fact that it uses  
less fuel than most others with its performance/quality makes me feel  
good about being environmentally friendly as well.

Godfrey


On Aug 6, 2006, at 3:49 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:

> Mark, as you're probably aware, the mileage you can expect with a  
> hybrid is
> very dependent upon your driving cycle, (city/highway) among other  
> things.
> If your 65 mile commute is mostly highway you will not see the kick in
> mileage that the hybrids are noted for. The extra cost of a hybrid  
> would go
> a long way to pay for your yearly fuel bill.


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Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Kenneth Waller wrote:

>Mark, as you're probably aware, the mileage you can expect with a hybrid is 
>very dependent upon your driving cycle, (city/highway) among other things. 
>If your 65 mile commute is mostly highway you will not see the kick in 
>mileage that the hybrids are noted for. The extra cost of a hybrid would go 
>a long way to pay for your yearly fuel bill.

Well, it certainly gets better highway mileage (~50 hwy) than what I'm
driving now (~33). And I'm really concerned with reducing my
consumption of petroleum as much as the cost of it. We're probably
going to spend about $24,000 no matter *what* kind of car we get, so
there really is no extra cost for us.

By Tuesday my current 50 mpg vehicle should be on the road, too :)
 
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Re: D and flash circuit problem

2006-08-06 Thread David Savage
You don't still have it set for wireles mode do you Dave?

Dave

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> Sounds like a problem.
>
> My D will show a depleated battery after a few pop up flash shots,
> even when full AA liths.
> My problem is the flash flashes, but out of 10 shots, i';ll get 2-3
> pictures, the rest are blank screens.
>
> Dave
>
> Quoting Thibouille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > My brother just got an ist-D (from Ebay) and has a flash/battery problem.
> >
> > When you pops out the flash it will show a low battery alarm and fire
> > anyway but without any flash. I tried to swap everything with my own D
> > (swap batteries, CF, lens) and nothing beter.
> > Tried batteries were fully charged 2000Nimh, 2500Nimh and AA Lithiums.
> > They do all fail but only in its body, mine works fine.
> >
> > Its serial number is: 5752412. I understood there are comon problem
> > with the flash circuitry. Is that such a case?
> > * Can it be repaired easily or should my brother return it immediately
> > to the seller?
> > * If it is a known issue, would Pentax repair it even outside warranty 
> > scope?
> >
> > Thanks for your much appreciated help.
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Re: test

2006-08-06 Thread David Savage
Passed.

You can count.

;-)

Dave

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Re: 2 PESOS: yeah yeah my kitty cat

2006-08-06 Thread Brian Walters
Hi Ann

I like both 'cat spayed bag' shots, with a slight preference for:
 
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4772812





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Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-06 Thread Kenneth Waller
Mark, as you're probably aware, the mileage you can expect with a hybrid is 
very dependent upon your driving cycle, (city/highway) among other things. 
If your 65 mile commute is mostly highway you will not see the kick in 
mileage that the hybrids are noted for. The extra cost of a hybrid would go 
a long way to pay for your yearly fuel bill.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system


> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>
>>Heya Bob, and others who are interested...
>>
>>The best description I've found of the Synergy Drive and the
>>operation of the "power split device" as CVT is available from these
>>pages:
>>http://www.ecrostech.com/prius/
>>
>>You can see from the text and diagrams lots of info that details how
>>the engine and electric motors, combined with the planetary gearset
>>in the power split device, work to provide a very different take on
>>the concept of "continuously variable transmission".
>>
>>Curiously, the Honda Insight forum pages also have excellent
>>technical information about the Prius and how differs from the
>>Insight drive system design:
>>   http://www.insightcentral.net/
>>
>>I found these through the Wikipedia site at
>>   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Prius
>>
>>Truly a fascinating design. Can't wait for my car to get here!
>
> Same here... except that my local dealer has one in stock! Test drove
> it on Friday. Dr. Lisa is going to check it out Monday or Tuesday (in
> Pennsylvania car dealers are prohibited by law from doing business on
> Sunday! It's like living in Saudi friggin' Arabia!) and they we'll
> decide if we're going to get it.
> We've been considering it for a while but the 65 mile commute to my
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Re: CD File Size

2006-08-06 Thread Jack Davis
That's as in "Golden Years". We all get pale at this point. :)

Jack

--- Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Jack Davis wrote:
> > 
> > Bill, it appears that I only threw away 37 mb in sizing for the
> proof
> > print. I checked all CD's and find that they come up as originally
> > scanned (45 - 60 mb).
> > Am I golden?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Jack
> 
> I'd say you were lucky... but as to golden - I though you
> were looking a bit pale...
> 
> ann
> 
> 
> > 
> > --- William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Jack Davis"
> > > Subject: CD File Size
> > >
> > >
> > > > No way to ask this and remain less than embarrassed. Not going
> to
> > > try.
> > > > Let's say I have a frame commercially scanned (35mm for
> example)
> > > that
> > > > turned out to be an 8-bit at 50MB. (it's a beautiful scene, by
> the
> > > > way).
> > > > I decide to print an 8x10, size it accordingly and notice that
> the
> > > > file
> > > > is now 17MB or?.
> > > > I now fiddle with the image, I like the changes, so re-burn it.
> > > > Dumb alert: do I need to restore the dimensions in PS to
> > > approximate
> > > > the initial file size (50MB)? Will I have lost MB's if I don't?
> > > > I gather not, but...?
> > > > Thanks for your pitty. :)
> > >
> > > When you resized it, you threw away 37mb of information. If you
> bring
> > > it
> > > back to the original 50mb, you will be making 37mb of information
> up
> > > (interpolation).
> > > Your best bet would be to go back to the original file and and
> apply
> > > the
> > > fiddling that you did to the 17mb file to it, then burn another
> copy
> > > of
> > > it.
> > > Photoshop can be told to keep a logfile of what it does, so you
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Re: 2 PESOS: yeah yeah my kitty cat

2006-08-06 Thread Jack Davis
Ann, I prefer the "other" shot. (what's a spayed bag?)
Like the impatient straight on look.
Also, like the soft misty 'porn' look. (didn't let my cat see it) ;-))

Jack

--- Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4772812
> 
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4772782
> 
> The first one I call a "genuine cat spayed bag"
> 
> Only a few of you will get that reference on this list :)
> 
> the second is soft kitty porn.
> 
> I was too chicken to title it that on photo.net
> 
> I've agonized over which of two cat spayed bag shots to put
> on photo.net
> so I loaded one there and the other one is here
> 
> If you have any strong opinions one way or the other let me
> know - I've been flip flopping
> over which one I like better for an hour... only want to
> show one on photo.net.
> 
> here is the other shot:
> http://users.rcn.com/annsan/catspayedbag2.jpg
> 
> I have a feeling the 2007 cat calendar is going to be all
> one cat :) :)
> 
> Meow
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Re: CD File Size

2006-08-06 Thread Jack Davis
My feeling was that I had re-worked the orig. scan, downsized and
resampled, then burned the disc for the lab. Which would only mean I'd
have to re-fiddle the original scan.
I'm conditioned to assume I was wrong and thrash about in all
directions before getting it together.
I realize a tif cannot be changed, but can be over-written.
I've just vowed to never re-burn on the original disc unless under a
different title.
Thanks much for the help.

Jack

Jack 

--- William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jack Davis"
> Subject: Re: CD File Size
> 
> 
> > Bill, it appears that I only threw away 37 mb in sizing for the
> proof
> > print. I checked all CD's and find that they come up as originally
> > scanned (45 - 60 mb).
> > Am I golden?
> 
> Maybe. You seem nice enough from your emails
> 
> Anyway, once a file is burned to CD and the CD is finalized, you
> aren't 
> going to be changing anything on the CD.
> I thought your point was that you had made some desirable changes to
> a 
> smaller sized file and wanted to know if simply increasing the pixel 
> count before resaving was viable.
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Re: 2 PESOS: yeah yeah my kitty cat

2006-08-06 Thread skye
On 8/6/06, Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "P. J. Alling" wrote:
> >
> > It's the most interesting kitty porn posted to the list in some time...
> > (ooh, that could be trouble, maybe I should rephrase that...   Naa).
> >
> > Of the other two, they're both nice enough, I prefer this one:
> >
> > http://users.rcn.com/annsan/catspayedbag2.jpg
>
> Thanks Pete --
> I was thinking possibly non cat lovers would like the other
> one better and
> cat people woild like the one best you like because you can
> see her face.
> sigh...
> flip/flop/flip/flop
>
> ann
>
>
cat person, here. I prefer the one you put on photo net. I like the
angle, and dare I say I like the lighting? (I've been wrestling with
lighting issues recently; nothing interesting, just beginner stuff). I
also like that the cat isn't looking at the camera. I always loved
looking at my cats when they were being distracted by something and
trying to figure out what was distracting them.

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Re: CD File Size

2006-08-06 Thread Jack Davis
Again, thanks! (me eather..naturally)

Jack

--- William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jack Davis"
> Subject: Re: CD File Size
> 
> 
> 
> > PS: Not my primary concern at the moment, but how do I tell PS to
> save
> > a "logfile"?
> >
> 
> In Photoshop:
> Edit/Preferences/General
> 
> Check the History Log box and tell Photoshop how you want the info
> saved 
> (either metadata, a text file or both), whether you want a detailed
> log 
> or otherwise, and then tell Photoshop where the file is to go.
> Be warned, these files get huge quickly.
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RE: A mildly amusing photograph

2006-08-06 Thread Bob W

> > 
> > glad you like it. I waited for the people to arrange themselves
just
> > so. I have several other frames but this is the one where the
people
> > were best placed.
> > 
> The certainly are well placed -- it was either you waited or
> were amazingly
> lucky :)
> 

not mutually exclusive you know! :o)

> > > >
> > > > Taken with my phonecam
> > > >
> > > > http://www.web-options.com/IMAGE_00020a.jpg
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Re: PESO - Simple Nature Shot

2006-08-06 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Kenneth Waller wrote:
> 
> Nice subject, focus, lighting & DOF. Love the backlighting also.
> Wished it weren't so centered.
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> 
>

Hmm-- let's see, will Ken move the plant to the _left_ or to
the _right_???

sometimes being centered is a good thing :) 

Bruce, I like it - bokeh especially, nicely lit -- 
and centered works for me in this one.

As fo trying to figure out what Wehatfield means - give it
up and roll with it (vvbg)

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Re: 2 PESOS: yeah yeah my kitty cat

2006-08-06 Thread Ann Sanfedele
"P. J. Alling" wrote:
> 
> It's the most interesting kitty porn posted to the list in some time...
> (ooh, that could be trouble, maybe I should rephrase that...   Naa).
> 
> Of the other two, they're both nice enough, I prefer this one:
> 
> http://users.rcn.com/annsan/catspayedbag2.jpg

Thanks Pete --
I was thinking possibly non cat lovers would like the other
one better and
cat people woild like the one best you like because you can
see her face.
sigh... 
flip/flop/flip/flop

ann


> 
> Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> 
> >http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4772812
> >
> >http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4772782
> >
> >The first one I call a "genuine cat spayed bag"
> >
> >Only a few of you will get that reference on this list :)
> >
> >the second is soft kitty porn.
> >
> >I was too chicken to title it that on photo.net
> >
> >I've agonized over which of two cat spayed bag shots to put
> >on photo.net
> >so I loaded one there and the other one is here
> >
> >If you have any strong opinions one way or the other let me
> >know - I've been flip flopping
> >over which one I like better for an hour... only want to
> >show one on photo.net.
> >
> >here is the other shot:
> >http://users.rcn.com/annsan/catspayedbag2.jpg
> >
> >I have a feeling the 2007 cat calendar is going to be all
> >one cat :) :)
> >
> >Meow
> >ann
> >
> >
> >
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Re: CD File Size

2006-08-06 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Jack Davis wrote:
> 
> Bill, it appears that I only threw away 37 mb in sizing for the proof
> print. I checked all CD's and find that they come up as originally
> scanned (45 - 60 mb).
> Am I golden?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jack

I'd say you were lucky... but as to golden - I though you
were looking a bit pale...

ann


> 
> --- William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Jack Davis"
> > Subject: CD File Size
> >
> >
> > > No way to ask this and remain less than embarrassed. Not going to
> > try.
> > > Let's say I have a frame commercially scanned (35mm for example)
> > that
> > > turned out to be an 8-bit at 50MB. (it's a beautiful scene, by the
> > > way).
> > > I decide to print an 8x10, size it accordingly and notice that the
> > > file
> > > is now 17MB or?.
> > > I now fiddle with the image, I like the changes, so re-burn it.
> > > Dumb alert: do I need to restore the dimensions in PS to
> > approximate
> > > the initial file size (50MB)? Will I have lost MB's if I don't?
> > > I gather not, but...?
> > > Thanks for your pitty. :)
> >
> > When you resized it, you threw away 37mb of information. If you bring
> > it
> > back to the original 50mb, you will be making 37mb of information up
> > (interpolation).
> > Your best bet would be to go back to the original file and and apply
> > the
> > fiddling that you did to the 17mb file to it, then burn another copy
> > of
> > it.
> > Photoshop can be told to keep a logfile of what it does, so you don't
> >
> > even need to work from memory.
> >
> > William Robb
> >
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Re: 2 PESOS: yeah yeah my kitty cat

2006-08-06 Thread P. J. Alling
It's the most interesting kitty porn posted to the list in some time...
(ooh, that could be trouble, maybe I should rephrase that...   Naa).

Of the other two, they're both nice enough, I prefer this one:

http://users.rcn.com/annsan/catspayedbag2.jpg



Ann Sanfedele wrote:

>http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4772812
>
>http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4772782
>
>The first one I call a "genuine cat spayed bag"
>
>Only a few of you will get that reference on this list :)
>
>the second is soft kitty porn.
>
>I was too chicken to title it that on photo.net
>
>I've agonized over which of two cat spayed bag shots to put
>on photo.net
>so I loaded one there and the other one is here
>
>If you have any strong opinions one way or the other let me
>know - I've been flip flopping
>over which one I like better for an hour... only want to
>show one on photo.net.
>
>here is the other shot:
>http://users.rcn.com/annsan/catspayedbag2.jpg
>
>I have a feeling the 2007 cat calendar is going to be all
>one cat :) :)
>
>Meow
>ann
>
>  
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Re: A mildly amusing photograph

2006-08-06 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Bob W wrote:
> 
> Hi Ann,
> 
> glad you like it. I waited for the people to arrange themselves just
> so. I have several other frames but this is the one where the people
> were best placed.
> 
The certainly are well placed -- it was either you waited or
were amazingly
lucky :)


> This was the first time I'd tried to take a 'real' photo with the
> phone. It took to me several hours to figure out whether or not it had
> actually taken anything, or if I'd even pressed the right button.
> 
> --
> Cheers,
>  Bob

LOL! that must ahve been a bit dicey.

ann

> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele
> > Sent: 06 August 2006 16:14
> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> > Subject: Re: A mildly amusing photograph
> >
> > Bob W wrote:
> > >
> > > ...or perhaps it's just me.
> > >
> > > Taken with my phonecam
> > >
> > > http://www.web-options.com/IMAGE_00020a.jpg
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> > Fun shot, and you clicked at  just the right time for the
> > people placement.
> >
> > I'd crop a bit pn the bottom and do the brightness contrast
> > thingy on the ARTET sign.
> >
> > Was it a total quick grab or did you wait for the people to
> > be where you liked?
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Re: Pug Comments

2006-08-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Hey, I made it to the top of somebodies favorites list.  Thanks, 
appreciate it.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>   Just a few that caught my eye. They were/are 
> all lovely shots btw.
>
>-Flatirons come in all Sizes-PJ Alling.
>
>Nicely exposed and interesting building. Nice sky.
>
>-Kirk in the Hills-P Stenquist.
>
>Good framing, and a "Haunted House" effect.
>
>-Orvieto Cathedral-G. Irlanda
>
>Love the blacked buildings as frames. Nice lines and colours on the main 
>building.
>
>-Pueblo Bonito-J Tainter.
>
>Well exposed and the brick detail is great. I love the off setting wall lines. 
>Sort of a
>"Beetle Juice"  effect.
>
>As stated, well done people.
>
>Dave
>
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Re: PESO: Me and My Rubber Ducky

2006-08-06 Thread David J Brooks
Nice.

Dave

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> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4741532
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Re: D and flash circuit problem

2006-08-06 Thread David J Brooks
Sounds like a problem.

My D will show a depleated battery after a few pop up flash shots,  
even when full AA liths.
My problem is the flash flashes, but out of 10 shots, i';ll get 2-3  
pictures, the rest are blank screens.

Dave

Quoting Thibouille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> My brother just got an ist-D (from Ebay) and has a flash/battery problem.
>
> When you pops out the flash it will show a low battery alarm and fire
> anyway but without any flash. I tried to swap everything with my own D
> (swap batteries, CF, lens) and nothing beter.
> Tried batteries were fully charged 2000Nimh, 2500Nimh and AA Lithiums.
> They do all fail but only in its body, mine works fine.
>
> Its serial number is: 5752412. I understood there are comon problem
> with the flash circuitry. Is that such a case?
> * Can it be repaired easily or should my brother return it immediately
> to the seller?
> * If it is a known issue, would Pentax repair it even outside warranty scope?
>
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Re: Pug Comments

2006-08-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Dave. And thanks for looking at the PUG.
Paul
On Aug 6, 2006, at 4:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>   Just a few that caught my eye. They were/are 
> all  
> lovely shots btw.
>
> -Flatirons come in all Sizes-PJ Alling.
>
> Nicely exposed and interesting building. Nice sky.
>
> -Kirk in the Hills-P Stenquist.
>
> Good framing, and a "Haunted House" effect.
>
> -Orvieto Cathedral-G. Irlanda
>
> Love the blacked buildings as frames. Nice lines and colours on the  
> main building.
>
> -Pueblo Bonito-J Tainter.
>
> Well exposed and the brick detail is great. I love the off setting  
> wall lines. Sort of a
> "Beetle Juice"  effect.
>
> As stated, well done people.
>
> Dave
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Re: returning to this group

2006-08-06 Thread IVAN SHUKSTER

Yes if I go the Pentax route the 12-24 is definetly one of the first if not the 
first len we will buy. The 400 2.8 on the other hand I will just borrow the 
lens and camera from work..It costs more than any car I have ever owned :) Good 
to know the Pentax version is a good performer. I do not use ours that much as 
co-worker normally carries it in his bag. I usually use the 17-55 and 70-200 
2.8 VR and all the other letters Nikon uses on their lenses. When only able to 
use one lens  borrow the 18-200 as long as the light will be good. I really 
like the 70-200 but it is heavy and the D1X with that lens compared to the MZ5n 
and the 70-200 or 70-210 we have is like comparing apples to blueberries
> 
> The 12-24 won't be that expensive to match, the Pentax 12-24 is 
> significantly cheaper than the Nikon but performs just as well 
> (The 
> extra cost in the Nikon is in heavier build and the AF-S motor).
> 
> The 400 f2.8 on the other hand...
> 
>> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2006 12:57:09 -0400
> From: David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: returning to this group
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes";
>   format="flowed"
> 
> Quoting IVAN SHUKSTER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > My name is Ivan and I live in Medicine Hat Alberta. I was a 
> member   
> > of this list briefly last summer.
> 
> Welcome back.
> 
> > I can buy a Pentex DSLR and upgrade some of my lenses and keep 
> the   
> > MZ5n or buy a Nikon D200 (one of which I do have on order for my 
> use  
> >  at work to replace the D1X)
> 
> Is the D1X for sale.? I would be interestedif it is. Contact me 
> off  
> list if you like. I;m looking for something to replace my D2h 
> which i  
> hate.
> 

Dave

The D1X is not mine to sale and is not for sale and in a way seeing as you are 
a Canadian you have already paid for it, txpayers dollars at work :) We still 
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Pug Comments

2006-08-06 Thread brooksdj
Just a few that caught my eye. They were/are 
all lovely shots btw.

-Flatirons come in all Sizes-PJ Alling.

Nicely exposed and interesting building. Nice sky.

-Kirk in the Hills-P Stenquist.

Good framing, and a "Haunted House" effect.

-Orvieto Cathedral-G. Irlanda

Love the blacked buildings as frames. Nice lines and colours on the main 
building.

-Pueblo Bonito-J Tainter.

Well exposed and the brick detail is great. I love the off setting wall lines. 
Sort of a
"Beetle Juice"  effect.

As stated, well done people.

Dave






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2 PESOS: yeah yeah my kitty cat

2006-08-06 Thread Ann Sanfedele

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4772812

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4772782

The first one I call a "genuine cat spayed bag"

Only a few of you will get that reference on this list :)

the second is soft kitty porn.

I was too chicken to title it that on photo.net

I've agonized over which of two cat spayed bag shots to put
on photo.net
so I loaded one there and the other one is here

If you have any strong opinions one way or the other let me
know - I've been flip flopping
over which one I like better for an hour... only want to
show one on photo.net.

here is the other shot:
http://users.rcn.com/annsan/catspayedbag2.jpg

I have a feeling the 2007 cat calendar is going to be all
one cat :) :)

Meow
ann

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Re: FA* 200mm f4 Macro??

2006-08-06 Thread Brendan MacRae
Dave, 
  
Amazon UK stills has a few it appears, as well as
a few other lenses that are no longer available in
the US (including the manual focus version). But,
you'll first have to ship to a UK address and pay
VAT (ouch!), then have it sent to you. But, I
suppose if you really must have one...
   
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/BC4G28/202-6729111-5491026?v=glance&n=560798

Regards,   
Brendan MacRae

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> This is a bit of a hail Mary, but have any of you
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> above mentioned lens for sale? I realise that it's
> been discontinued,
> but I have been hoping there may be a few units
> still floating around.
> 
> I've been pulling what's left of my hair out trying
> to track one down,
> but so far no luck.
> 
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Re: CD File Size

2006-08-06 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Jack Davis"
Subject: Re: CD File Size


> Bill, it appears that I only threw away 37 mb in sizing for the proof
> print. I checked all CD's and find that they come up as originally
> scanned (45 - 60 mb).
> Am I golden?

Maybe. You seem nice enough from your emails

Anyway, once a file is burned to CD and the CD is finalized, you aren't 
going to be changing anything on the CD.
I thought your point was that you had made some desirable changes to a 
smaller sized file and wanted to know if simply increasing the pixel 
count before resaving was viable.

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test

2006-08-06 Thread Brendan MacRae
testing 1-2-3

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Holiday's over - and a few PESO's

2006-08-06 Thread Jens Bladt
My summer holidays is now almost over - and I'm back on the list.
I hope everybody is fine and doing really well ...

After two weeks in Greece, I guess I have about 5-6 GB of digital images to
edit.
I gave the DL a lot of exercise. I'm surprised how easy using this camera
is.
Here's a few shots:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157594226524560/
These are done with my "travel-zoom" - the SMC Pentax-F 4-5.6/70-210mm

Of course I couldn't resist doing a couple of panoramas as well:
http://www.jensbladt.dk/pano/Rhodos.html

Thanks for looking.
Comments are - as always - very welcome.
Regards

Jens Bladt
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Re: CD File Size

2006-08-06 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Jack Davis"
Subject: Re: CD File Size



> PS: Not my primary concern at the moment, but how do I tell PS to save
> a "logfile"?
>

In Photoshop:
Edit/Preferences/General

Check the History Log box and tell Photoshop how you want the info saved 
(either metadata, a text file or both), whether you want a detailed log 
or otherwise, and then tell Photoshop where the file is to go.
Be warned, these files get huge quickly.
BTW, I don't have a clue what metadata is, or how to use it.

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D and flash circuit problem

2006-08-06 Thread Thibouille
My brother just got an ist-D (from Ebay) and has a flash/battery problem.

When you pops out the flash it will show a low battery alarm and fire
anyway but without any flash. I tried to swap everything with my own D
(swap batteries, CF, lens) and nothing beter.
Tried batteries were fully charged 2000Nimh, 2500Nimh and AA Lithiums.
They do all fail but only in its body, mine works fine.

Its serial number is: 5752412. I understood there are comon problem
with the flash circuitry. Is that such a case?
* Can it be repaired easily or should my brother return it immediately
to the seller?
* If it is a known issue, would Pentax repair it even outside warranty scope?

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Re: returning to this group

2006-08-06 Thread David J Brooks
Quoting IVAN SHUKSTER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> My name is Ivan and I live in Medicine Hat Alberta. I was a member   
> of this list briefly last summer.

Welcome back.

> I can buy a Pentex DSLR and upgrade some of my lenses and keep the   
> MZ5n or buy a Nikon D200 (one of which I do have on order for my use  
>  at work to replace the D1X)

Is the D1X for sale.? I would be interestedif it is. Contact me off  
list if you like. I;m looking for something to replace my D2h which i  
hate.

> Not a decision I wish to rush in as I am not much into buying and   
> selling cameras The only time we did change systems was from screw   
> mount to the K mount. Also in a position that we do not have to make  
>  the decision until next spring as wife will need a DSLR next summer.
> If we go the Pentax route it will either be the upcoming K10D or   
> else try to pick up a used DS/DS2 cheaply and wait for the next   
> camera ; K1D or K20D or whatever will come down the pipeline and   
> from the sounds of what Pentax is proposing it does sound positive   
> that improved models will continue to come. One of the reasons to go  
>  the later route is to later convert the DS to an infrared camera. I  
>  have enjoyed and found informative the emails about the upcoming   
> K10D (and the speculation as well).

A DS2 or wait for the K10o or K10 seems the way to go. A lot of use  
have the istD, and like it, so if you can find a good used one, that  
might be an oprion to.

Dave, near Toronto, Brooks
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Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Glad you're enjoying the info.

I'm continuing to explore links ... finally, I found a photograph/ 
cutaway of the Prius power unit:

   http://www.lrz-muenchen.de/~u7224ac/www/hybrid.jpg

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Re: Polar Pivot

2006-08-06 Thread Jack Davis
You're not the first who's taken a moment in orienting themselves to
'see' the polar bear.
"close your eyes and stare at the center"..remember the computer
picture puzzle craze of 8 or 10 years ago?
I have a 13x20 print of a frame full of nothing but Snow Geese.
Actually had someone admit that they had looked at it for a moment with
the idea that it was a computer puzzle.
Love watching folks/customers look at my stuff.
Thanks for comments!

Jack

--- Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Jack,
> Otherwise?  I was at an absolute loss to know what it was.
> I looked several times yesterday and tried to imagine a polar bear.
> I had no luck.
> I just opened it to see the nose and tongue at the top of the photo.
> It makes more sense now, but kind of a picture puzzle. :-(
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On 8/5/06, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I forget a lot things I didn't used to. Geezer syndrome. :-(
> > Failed to "save for web".
> > Sorry.
> > Otherwise??
> >
> > Jack
> >
> > --- Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Took awhile to determine what I was actually looking at.
> > >
> > > Why such a large file - 523kb - for web posting?
> > >
> > > Kenneth Waller
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Jack Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 3:46 PM
> > > Subject: PESO: Polar Pivot
> > >
> > >
> > > > My earlier Chipmunk Flare upload didn't incite a lot of
> activity,
> > > but I
> > > > stubbornly press on. Here's another kind of unusual critter
> pic.
> > > > Shot a Sacramento's Land Park Zoo, a few hot summers back.
> > > > I watched him/her dive into the pool and come up spinning off
> the
> > > > water. Finally decided I'd try to catch the action.
> > > > A*300 f2.8, LX on sturdy tripod. Film unknown at this moment.
> > > >
> > > > Pls let me know if this or other of my files are difficult to
> > > handle.
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Jack
> > > >
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K100D comments

2006-08-06 Thread Bob Sullivan
Just a quick report of my impressions of the camera...
I saw my sister and her family yesterday.
She and her 26 year old son are both Pentax users.
He just bought a K100D so I got an up close and personal look at it.

Construction, egronomics, switch layout and menu's are all familiar.
The body is maybe 1/8th inch bigger and a bit more boxy (plastic?) than my DS.
Shake reduction was there, but I couldn't give it much of a test.
The viewfinder was fine, with slightly smaller text below it than my DS.
The LCD on the back was of course much bigger!

Autofocus was similar, but the buffer is smaller.  I could get 3
jpeg's in continuous shooting before the 4th shot had a delay while
the buffer emptied.  I get more like 6 with the DS.

My nephew has been shooting with an ME Super he 'borrowed' from his
mom.  He likes the new camera and waited for shake reduction rather
than buy a DS or DL.  He has used it mainly with the 18-55mm kit lens
on fully automatic.  He also took the time to figure out how to shoot
some black & white conversions on the camera.

Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: CD File Size

2006-08-06 Thread Jack Davis
Bill, it appears that I only threw away 37 mb in sizing for the proof
print. I checked all CD's and find that they come up as originally
scanned (45 - 60 mb).
Am I golden?

Thanks,

Jack

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> - Original Message - 
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> Subject: CD File Size
> 
> 
> > No way to ask this and remain less than embarrassed. Not going to
> try.
> > Let's say I have a frame commercially scanned (35mm for example)
> that
> > turned out to be an 8-bit at 50MB. (it's a beautiful scene, by the
> > way).
> > I decide to print an 8x10, size it accordingly and notice that the 
> > file
> > is now 17MB or?.
> > I now fiddle with the image, I like the changes, so re-burn it.
> > Dumb alert: do I need to restore the dimensions in PS to
> approximate
> > the initial file size (50MB)? Will I have lost MB's if I don't?
> > I gather not, but...?
> > Thanks for your pitty. :)
> 
> When you resized it, you threw away 37mb of information. If you bring
> it 
> back to the original 50mb, you will be making 37mb of information up 
> (interpolation).
> Your best bet would be to go back to the original file and and apply
> the 
> fiddling that you did to the 17mb file to it, then burn another copy
> of 
> it.
> Photoshop can be told to keep a logfile of what it does, so you don't
> 
> even need to work from memory.
> 
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RE: A mildly amusing photograph

2006-08-06 Thread Bob W
Hi Ann,

glad you like it. I waited for the people to arrange themselves just
so. I have several other frames but this is the one where the people
were best placed.

This was the first time I'd tried to take a 'real' photo with the
phone. It took to me several hours to figure out whether or not it had
actually taken anything, or if I'd even pressed the right button.

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> 
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> > 
> > ...or perhaps it's just me.
> > 
> > Taken with my phonecam
> > 
> > http://www.web-options.com/IMAGE_00020a.jpg
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> 
> Fun shot, and you clicked at  just the right time for the
> people placement. 
> 
> I'd crop a bit pn the bottom and do the brightness contrast
> thingy on the ARTET sign.
> 
> Was it a total quick grab or did you wait for the people to
> be where you liked?
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Re: CD File Size

2006-08-06 Thread Jack Davis
My normal fiddling procedure is to work with the .tif CD as scanned.
What occurred in this case is that I'm preparing discs to take to a lab
for printing (11x16's and 20/30's) to fill a nice size order.
I made new .tif "proof prints" for two of those to be printed as 
20x30's and for another to be printed 11x16. Proofs were printed
6.67x10 from files which were sized without 'resampling'. As I recall.
Is there a way of verifying the size of these files?
I'm not feeling so good.

Jack

PS: Not my primary concern at the moment, but how do I tell PS to save
a "logfile"?

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> - Original Message - 
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> Subject: CD File Size
> 
> 
> > No way to ask this and remain less than embarrassed. Not going to
> try.
> > Let's say I have a frame commercially scanned (35mm for example)
> that
> > turned out to be an 8-bit at 50MB. (it's a beautiful scene, by the
> > way).
> > I decide to print an 8x10, size it accordingly and notice that the 
> > file
> > is now 17MB or?.
> > I now fiddle with the image, I like the changes, so re-burn it.
> > Dumb alert: do I need to restore the dimensions in PS to
> approximate
> > the initial file size (50MB)? Will I have lost MB's if I don't?
> > I gather not, but...?
> > Thanks for your pitty. :)
> 
> When you resized it, you threw away 37mb of information. If you bring
> it 
> back to the original 50mb, you will be making 37mb of information up 
> (interpolation).
> Your best bet would be to go back to the original file and and apply
> the 
> fiddling that you did to the 17mb file to it, then burn another copy
> of 
> it.
> Photoshop can be told to keep a logfile of what it does, so you don't
> 
> even need to work from memory.
> 
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Re: returning to this group

2006-08-06 Thread Adam Maas
The 12-24 won't be that expensive to match, the Pentax 12-24 is 
significantly cheaper than the Nikon but performs just as well (The 
extra cost in the Nikon is in heavier build and the AF-S motor).

The 400 f2.8 on the other hand...

-Adam


Bob Sullivan wrote:
> Ivan,
> 
> Welcome back.  I think you have a problem with all your optional glass.
> I'm sure the 12-24 Nikkor and 400 f2.8 are spoiling you. ;-)
> They will be expensive to duplicate in Pentax gear.
> 
> I have a Pentax Ds and played a bit with my nephew's new K100D yesterday.
> I didn't get much of a read on the shake reduction feature, but I
> consider it a plus.
> The camera itself is just a bit more boxy than the Ds, maybe more plastic?
> I expect the K10D will be a step up and feature share reduction.
> 
> I wouldn't have a problem building a system around the old Pentax
> lenses that you already owned.  If you want to switch later, the glass
> has been holding good value as Pentax seems to be adding users with
> digital.
> 
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On 8/6/06, IVAN SHUKSTER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>My name is Ivan and I live in Medicine Hat Alberta. I was a member of this 
>>list briefly last summer.
>>I first began using Pentax i 1973 and bought my first one , a Spotmatic F 
>>which I stil have, the next year. Eventually my wife and I had two Spotmatic 
>>Fs with a bunch of lenses most of which we traded for a second SF1x. Also own 
>>a MZ5n and picked up really cheap a A110 with three lenses. Not sure if I 
>>will ever shot a 110 again even though do have several rolls of film, but why 
>>bother? For the last 25 years also own a Rolleichord.
>>My last two camera purchases were not Pentax, a used Shen Hao 4X5 field 
>>camera and before that a Sony P&S. I still shoot film, but with my new job 
>>there was a Hassleblad and six lenses being unused so that is what most of my 
>>B&W shooting has been of late.
>>We are seriously thinking of obtaining a digital SLR and having to make a 
>>decision on brand and model. This decision is not an obvious one as although 
>>we have three Pentax bodies and a few lenses and accessories, none of them 
>>are expensive and other than the fisheye zoom, all are easily replaced with 
>>used equvalents. At work I am able to use for non commerical purposes the 
>>camera and lenses I use at work which right now is a D1X or D2H and lenses 
>>from the 12-24 DX to a 400 2.8 Nikkors and all the fast glass that Nikon 
>>makes or so it seems. Occassionlly I borrow from friend/co-worker the D2X. 
>>That does not help my wife however.
>>I can buy a Pentex DSLR and upgrade some of my lenses and keep the MZ5n or 
>>buy a Nikon D200 (one of which I do have on order for my use at work to 
>>replace the D1X) use some of the older slower lenses that are not used at 
>>work until we get our own Nikkors. There are also F5 at work not being used 
>>as well as an 8X10 monorail camera I hope to try next year. Would also 
>>eventually need to buy a Nikon film camera if went this route so although it 
>>would give me the broadest system it would be to me them most expensive way 
>>and of course even if we buy Pentax I still can use the Nikon myself.
>>Not a decision I wish to rush in as I am not much into buying and selling 
>>cameras The only time we did change systems was from screw mount to the K 
>>mount. Also in a position that we do not have to make the decision until next 
>>spring as wife will need a DSLR next summer.
>>If we go the Pentax route it will either be the upcoming K10D or else try to 
>>pick up a used DS/DS2 cheaply and wait for the next camera ; K1D or K20D or 
>>whatever will come down the pipeline and from the sounds of what Pentax is 
>>proposing it does sound positive that improved models will continue to come. 
>>One of the reasons to go the later route is to later convert the DS to an 
>>infrared camera. I have enjoyed and found informative the emails about the 
>>upcoming K10D (and the speculation as well).
>>
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Re: returning to this group

2006-08-06 Thread Bob Sullivan
Ivan,

Welcome back.  I think you have a problem with all your optional glass.
I'm sure the 12-24 Nikkor and 400 f2.8 are spoiling you. ;-)
They will be expensive to duplicate in Pentax gear.

I have a Pentax Ds and played a bit with my nephew's new K100D yesterday.
I didn't get much of a read on the shake reduction feature, but I
consider it a plus.
The camera itself is just a bit more boxy than the Ds, maybe more plastic?
I expect the K10D will be a step up and feature share reduction.

I wouldn't have a problem building a system around the old Pentax
lenses that you already owned.  If you want to switch later, the glass
has been holding good value as Pentax seems to be adding users with
digital.

Regards,  Bob S.

On 8/6/06, IVAN SHUKSTER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My name is Ivan and I live in Medicine Hat Alberta. I was a member of this 
> list briefly last summer.
> I first began using Pentax i 1973 and bought my first one , a Spotmatic F 
> which I stil have, the next year. Eventually my wife and I had two Spotmatic 
> Fs with a bunch of lenses most of which we traded for a second SF1x. Also own 
> a MZ5n and picked up really cheap a A110 with three lenses. Not sure if I 
> will ever shot a 110 again even though do have several rolls of film, but why 
> bother? For the last 25 years also own a Rolleichord.
> My last two camera purchases were not Pentax, a used Shen Hao 4X5 field 
> camera and before that a Sony P&S. I still shoot film, but with my new job 
> there was a Hassleblad and six lenses being unused so that is what most of my 
> B&W shooting has been of late.
> We are seriously thinking of obtaining a digital SLR and having to make a 
> decision on brand and model. This decision is not an obvious one as although 
> we have three Pentax bodies and a few lenses and accessories, none of them 
> are expensive and other than the fisheye zoom, all are easily replaced with 
> used equvalents. At work I am able to use for non commerical purposes the 
> camera and lenses I use at work which right now is a D1X or D2H and lenses 
> from the 12-24 DX to a 400 2.8 Nikkors and all the fast glass that Nikon 
> makes or so it seems. Occassionlly I borrow from friend/co-worker the D2X. 
> That does not help my wife however.
> I can buy a Pentex DSLR and upgrade some of my lenses and keep the MZ5n or 
> buy a Nikon D200 (one of which I do have on order for my use at work to 
> replace the D1X) use some of the older slower lenses that are not used at 
> work until we get our own Nikkors. There are also F5 at work not being used 
> as well as an 8X10 monorail camera I hope to try next year. Would also 
> eventually need to buy a Nikon film camera if went this route so although it 
> would give me the broadest system it would be to me them most expensive way 
> and of course even if we buy Pentax I still can use the Nikon myself.
> Not a decision I wish to rush in as I am not much into buying and selling 
> cameras The only time we did change systems was from screw mount to the K 
> mount. Also in a position that we do not have to make the decision until next 
> spring as wife will need a DSLR next summer.
> If we go the Pentax route it will either be the upcoming K10D or else try to 
> pick up a used DS/DS2 cheaply and wait for the next camera ; K1D or K20D or 
> whatever will come down the pipeline and from the sounds of what Pentax is 
> proposing it does sound positive that improved models will continue to come. 
> One of the reasons to go the later route is to later convert the DS to an 
> infrared camera. I have enjoyed and found informative the emails about the 
> upcoming K10D (and the speculation as well).
>
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Re: CD File Size

2006-08-06 Thread David Savage
You need to do your fiddling before resizing.

Generally after resizing the only thing you should need to do is a
touch of sharpening.

Dave

On 8/6/06, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No way to ask this and remain less than embarrassed. Not going to try.
> Let's say I have a frame commercially scanned (35mm for example) that
> turned out to be an 8-bit at 50MB. (it's a beautiful scene, by the
> way).
> I decide to print an 8x10, size it accordingly and notice that the file
> is now 17MB or?.
> I now fiddle with the image, I like the changes, so re-burn it.
> Dumb alert: do I need to restore the dimensions in PS to approximate
> the initial file size (50MB)? Will I have lost MB's if I don't?
> I gather not, but...?
> Thanks for your pitty. :)
>
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Re: CD File Size

2006-08-06 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Jack Davis"
Subject: CD File Size


> No way to ask this and remain less than embarrassed. Not going to try.
> Let's say I have a frame commercially scanned (35mm for example) that
> turned out to be an 8-bit at 50MB. (it's a beautiful scene, by the
> way).
> I decide to print an 8x10, size it accordingly and notice that the 
> file
> is now 17MB or?.
> I now fiddle with the image, I like the changes, so re-burn it.
> Dumb alert: do I need to restore the dimensions in PS to approximate
> the initial file size (50MB)? Will I have lost MB's if I don't?
> I gather not, but...?
> Thanks for your pitty. :)

When you resized it, you threw away 37mb of information. If you bring it 
back to the original 50mb, you will be making 37mb of information up 
(interpolation).
Your best bet would be to go back to the original file and and apply the 
fiddling that you did to the 17mb file to it, then burn another copy of 
it.
Photoshop can be told to keep a logfile of what it does, so you don't 
even need to work from memory.

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Re: A mildly amusing photograph

2006-08-06 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Bob W wrote:
> 
> ...or perhaps it's just me.
> 
> Taken with my phonecam
> 
> http://www.web-options.com/IMAGE_00020a.jpg
> 
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Wow - that phone cam "takes good pictures" :)

Fun shot, and you clicked at  just the right time for the
people placement. 

I'd crop a bit pn the bottom and do the brightness contrast
thingy on the ARTET sign.

Was it a total quick grab or did you wait for the people to
be where you liked?

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Re: CD File Size

2006-08-06 Thread Bob Shell

On Aug 6, 2006, at 10:10 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

> No way to ask this and remain less than embarrassed. Not going to try.
> Let's say I have a frame commercially scanned (35mm for example) that
> turned out to be an 8-bit at 50MB. (it's a beautiful scene, by the
> way).
> I decide to print an 8x10, size it accordingly and notice that the  
> file
> is now 17MB or?.
> I now fiddle with the image, I like the changes, so re-burn it.
> Dumb alert: do I need to restore the dimensions in PS to approximate
> the initial file size (50MB)? Will I have lost MB's if I don't?
> I gather not, but...?
> Thanks for your pitty. :)

You should do your "fiddling" on a same-size copy of the original,  
not a downsized copy.

Resizing the smaller file back up to 50MB will not put back the  
information you lost when you downsized it.

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Re: CD File Size

2006-08-06 Thread Powell Hargrave
Not enough information.  What type of files are you saving? .tif, .jpg, psd.
These also can be compressed which changes file size.

When you resized to print did you resample the file which makes a new
smaller or larger file.  Or just change the PPI which does not change the
file only the printing instructions.

Powell


>No way to ask this and remain less than embarrassed. Not going to try.
>Let's say I have a frame commercially scanned (35mm for example) that
>turned out to be an 8-bit at 50MB. (it's a beautiful scene, by the
>way).
>I decide to print an 8x10, size it accordingly and notice that the file
>is now 17MB or?.
>I now fiddle with the image, I like the changes, so re-burn it. 
>Dumb alert: do I need to restore the dimensions in PS to approximate
>the initial file size (50MB)? Will I have lost MB's if I don't?
>I gather not, but...?
>Thanks for your pitty. :)
>
>Jack

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Re: Polar Pivot

2006-08-06 Thread Bob Sullivan
Jack,
Otherwise?  I was at an absolute loss to know what it was.
I looked several times yesterday and tried to imagine a polar bear.
I had no luck.
I just opened it to see the nose and tongue at the top of the photo.
It makes more sense now, but kind of a picture puzzle. :-(
Regards,  Bob S.

On 8/5/06, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I forget a lot things I didn't used to. Geezer syndrome. :-(
> Failed to "save for web".
> Sorry.
> Otherwise??
>
> Jack
>
> --- Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Took awhile to determine what I was actually looking at.
> >
> > Why such a large file - 523kb - for web posting?
> >
> > Kenneth Waller
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Jack Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 3:46 PM
> > Subject: PESO: Polar Pivot
> >
> >
> > > My earlier Chipmunk Flare upload didn't incite a lot of activity,
> > but I
> > > stubbornly press on. Here's another kind of unusual critter pic.
> > > Shot a Sacramento's Land Park Zoo, a few hot summers back.
> > > I watched him/her dive into the pool and come up spinning off the
> > > water. Finally decided I'd try to catch the action.
> > > A*300 f2.8, LX on sturdy tripod. Film unknown at this moment.
> > >
> > > Pls let me know if this or other of my files are difficult to
> > handle.
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Jack
> > >
> > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=160
> > >
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Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-06 Thread Adam Maas
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> On Jul 26, 2006, at 11:56 AM, Bob Shell wrote:
> 
> 
>>>I haven't yet found a detailed drawing or photographs of all the
>>>components in the Prius'  drive system to be able to fully understand
>>>how it works. If you know of any available on line, let me know.
>>
>>This Australian article may have some answers:
>>  http://autospeed.drive.com.au/cms/A_1450/article.html
>>And here's a somewhat windy Wikipedia article:
>>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_Synergy_Drive
>>Unfortunately neither has the detailed drawings you and I would like
>>to see of how it works.
> 
> 
> Heya Bob, and others who are interested...
> 
> The best description I've found of the Synergy Drive and the  
> operation of the "power split device" as CVT is available from these  
> pages:
> http://www.ecrostech.com/prius/
> 
> You can see from the text and diagrams lots of info that details how  
> the engine and electric motors, combined with the planetary gearset  
> in the power split device, work to provide a very different take on  
> the concept of "continuously variable transmission".
> 
> Curiously, the Honda Insight forum pages also have excellent  
> technical information about the Prius and how differs from the  
> Insight drive system design:
>http://www.insightcentral.net/
> 
> I found these through the Wikipedia site at
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Prius
> 
> Truly a fascinating design. Can't wait for my car to get here!
> 
> Godfrey
> 

Thanks for the link, It's rather interesting reading.

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CD File Size

2006-08-06 Thread Jack Davis
No way to ask this and remain less than embarrassed. Not going to try.
Let's say I have a frame commercially scanned (35mm for example) that
turned out to be an 8-bit at 50MB. (it's a beautiful scene, by the
way).
I decide to print an 8x10, size it accordingly and notice that the file
is now 17MB or?.
I now fiddle with the image, I like the changes, so re-burn it. 
Dumb alert: do I need to restore the dimensions in PS to approximate
the initial file size (50MB)? Will I have lost MB's if I don't?
I gather not, but...?
Thanks for your pitty. :)

Jack

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PDML Mini-FAQ Link

2006-08-06 Thread gray_wolf

http://www.graywolfphoto.com/pentax/pdml-faq.html

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Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

>Heya Bob, and others who are interested...
>
>The best description I've found of the Synergy Drive and the  
>operation of the "power split device" as CVT is available from these  
>pages:
>http://www.ecrostech.com/prius/
>
>You can see from the text and diagrams lots of info that details how  
>the engine and electric motors, combined with the planetary gearset  
>in the power split device, work to provide a very different take on  
>the concept of "continuously variable transmission".
>
>Curiously, the Honda Insight forum pages also have excellent  
>technical information about the Prius and how differs from the  
>Insight drive system design:
>   http://www.insightcentral.net/
>
>I found these through the Wikipedia site at
>   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Prius
>
>Truly a fascinating design. Can't wait for my car to get here!

Same here... except that my local dealer has one in stock! Test drove
it on Friday. Dr. Lisa is going to check it out Monday or Tuesday (in
Pennsylvania car dealers are prohibited by law from doing business on
Sunday! It's like living in Saudi friggin' Arabia!) and they we'll
decide if we're going to get it.
We've been considering it for a while but the 65 mile commute to my
new job was the tipping point...
 
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returning to this group

2006-08-06 Thread IVAN SHUKSTER
My name is Ivan and I live in Medicine Hat Alberta. I was a member of this list 
briefly last summer.
I first began using Pentax i 1973 and bought my first one , a Spotmatic F which 
I stil have, the next year. Eventually my wife and I had two Spotmatic Fs with 
a bunch of lenses most of which we traded for a second SF1x. Also own a MZ5n 
and picked up really cheap a A110 with three lenses. Not sure if I will ever 
shot a 110 again even though do have several rolls of film, but why bother? For 
the last 25 years also own a Rolleichord. 
My last two camera purchases were not Pentax, a used Shen Hao 4X5 field camera 
and before that a Sony P&S. I still shoot film, but with my new job there was a 
Hassleblad and six lenses being unused so that is what most of my B&W shooting 
has been of late.
We are seriously thinking of obtaining a digital SLR and having to make a 
decision on brand and model. This decision is not an obvious one as although we 
have three Pentax bodies and a few lenses and accessories, none of them are 
expensive and other than the fisheye zoom, all are easily replaced with used 
equvalents. At work I am able to use for non commerical purposes the camera and 
lenses I use at work which right now is a D1X or D2H and lenses from the 12-24 
DX to a 400 2.8 Nikkors and all the fast glass that Nikon makes or so it seems. 
Occassionlly I borrow from friend/co-worker the D2X. That does not help my wife 
however.
I can buy a Pentex DSLR and upgrade some of my lenses and keep the MZ5n or buy 
a Nikon D200 (one of which I do have on order for my use at work to replace the 
D1X) use some of the older slower lenses that are not used at work until we get 
our own Nikkors. There are also F5 at work not being used as well as an 8X10 
monorail camera I hope to try next year. Would also eventually need to buy a 
Nikon film camera if went this route so although it would give me the broadest 
system it would be to me them most expensive way and of course even if we buy 
Pentax I still can use the Nikon myself.
Not a decision I wish to rush in as I am not much into buying and selling 
cameras The only time we did change systems was from screw mount to the K 
mount. Also in a position that we do not have to make the decision until next 
spring as wife will need a DSLR next summer. 
If we go the Pentax route it will either be the upcoming K10D or else try to 
pick up a used DS/DS2 cheaply and wait for the next camera ; K1D or K20D or 
whatever will come down the pipeline and from the sounds of what Pentax is 
proposing it does sound positive that improved models will continue to come. 
One of the reasons to go the later route is to later convert the DS to an 
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Re: K10D - More News

2006-08-06 Thread Cory Papenfuss
> Did you look at the photos?  The baby shot is at ISO 800 and I see no sign
> of excessive noise reduction.  I have an old 3 Mega pixel Nikon 990 which

My only concern with "noise-reduction" in the camera is that it 
isn't faithfully what the sensor saw.  Similar to the reasons for shooting 
RAW... get the processing out of the camera and onto a computer where a 
better job can (potentially) be done.  IIRC the D70 did "noise-reduction" 
even in their RAW files and it had a tendency to erase stars on night 
photos.

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Even these lenses have gotten more expensive

2006-08-06 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=019&item=290013408074&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1



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Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-08-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Jul 26, 2006, at 11:56 AM, Bob Shell wrote:

>> I haven't yet found a detailed drawing or photographs of all the
>> components in the Prius'  drive system to be able to fully understand
>> how it works. If you know of any available on line, let me know.
>
> This Australian article may have some answers:
>   http://autospeed.drive.com.au/cms/A_1450/article.html
> And here's a somewhat windy Wikipedia article:
>   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_Synergy_Drive
> Unfortunately neither has the detailed drawings you and I would like
> to see of how it works.

Heya Bob, and others who are interested...

The best description I've found of the Synergy Drive and the  
operation of the "power split device" as CVT is available from these  
pages:
http://www.ecrostech.com/prius/

You can see from the text and diagrams lots of info that details how  
the engine and electric motors, combined with the planetary gearset  
in the power split device, work to provide a very different take on  
the concept of "continuously variable transmission".

Curiously, the Honda Insight forum pages also have excellent  
technical information about the Prius and how differs from the  
Insight drive system design:
   http://www.insightcentral.net/

I found these through the Wikipedia site at
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Prius

Truly a fascinating design. Can't wait for my car to get here!

Godfrey

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