Re: The Thingy in the istDS

2007-03-28 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/03/27 Tue PM 11:03:32 GMT
 To: PDML PDML@pdml.net
 Subject: The Thingy in the istDS
 
 I've been using the istDS for about two years and today I noticed a little
 thingy in the flash attachment.  It looks like it's designed to cover and
 protect the contacts.  That's pretty cool. This is my second DS, and I
 don't recall this protection cover being on the first camera.  Is this a
 standard item, or maybe an optional piece that was installed by the
 original owner of my second camera, which I bought used?  
 

Standard fitment in most new cameras of quality.  Even my Zenits had one.  The 
one for the Z1-p was a most bizarre shape, due to the location of the shoe.  
The DL/2 has cutouts on the locating rails (in fact, on one side the rail is 
almost completely missing) to save a farthing's worth of plastic.  I think you 
can get a Leica one made in precious metal and set with gemstones.  It's an 
optional extra on the Paris Hilton Sex Tape Commemorative model.


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Re: OT: Takumar vs. Powerbook, round one.

2007-03-28 Thread Cotty
On 27/3/07, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed:

Newegg has this drive for $85 right now.

BTW: Is there a trivial way in the Mac to duplicate the existing main
drive? I'm tempted to upgrade my 12 PB drive with 160GB, but I
wouldn't want to start from a blank OS X install if I don't have to.

I'll check disk utility tonight when I get home...

I used to use Carbon Copy Cloner, but saw the error of my ways ;-)

I have used SuperDuper for years and it backs up perfectly, never
faulted. Support is swift and first class, Highly recommended.

http://www.shirt-pocket.com/

http://www.shirt-pocket.com/SuperDuper/SuperDuperDescription.html

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Re: SDHC cards

2007-03-28 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
That's theory. In practice there can be some differencies, look at  
Nikon D80 results:
http://robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=6007-8531

On 27.03.2007, at 18:10 , Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 Until very recently, Sandisk only offered up to the Ultra II cards
 (66x) in 4Gbyte SDHC compatible format, where the faster Extreme III
 cards max'ed out at 2Gbyte. Now they are offering the Extreme III
 cards in this format. I have not seen any reviews of the Extreme III
 SDHC as yet, but I would expect that they meet the Extreme III
 performance specifications, which rates them at up to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Read/Write (133x).

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RE: PESO:A24mm+K10D tests

2007-03-28 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/03/28 Wed AM 01:11:26 GMT
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: PESO:A24mm+K10D tests
 
 Hi Bruce
 Thanks, it's a bit your style, not :-)
 
 I was too afraid to go into the tropical rooms inside the botanical garden
 because of the high humidity of the air but would have loved to take more
 photos of exotic plants and flowers. I once tried in the Masoala hall in
 the Zurich zoo --  http://www.zoo.ch/index.php?id=967L=3but but my eye
 glasses and lenses where immediately very wet and I didn't want to put my
 photo equipment at risk. While the K10D should stand a sudden change in
 tropical climate I wonder if there is a good way to protect unsealed lenses
 against humitity?
 
 Greetings
 Markus

Even unsealed lenses would only be affected if you expanded their volume, 
pulling the warm, moist air into the cold interior.  If the lens is one that 
remains dimensionally stable in zoom and focus, you only have the front element 
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RE: Battery life on K10D

2007-03-28 Thread Markus Maurer
Thanks Godfrey.
Battery loading in the car could be handy sometimes...
Markus
 

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On Mar 27, 2007, at 7:10 PM, Markus Maurer wrote:

 Is this third party charger only for the Pentax K10D accu or does  
 it work
 with other accu brands as well?

It's a CTA charger for the NP400 battery: here's a link to it on  
CompUPlus.com.
   http://tinyurl.com/38sag3

I usually stick the battery on charge and leave it sit on the power  
for a while after the charge light goes out. Typically, the charge  
light goes out when the battery has achieved 85-90% charge on most of  
these types of chargers.

Godfrey

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Re: Battery life on K10D

2007-03-28 Thread Dario Bonazza
I've never been able to shoot more than 400 pix per battery charge, 350-370 
being my usual score with LCD auto-review turned off and using flash very 
very litle or not at all. Not bad, but far from over 1,000 shots as some are 
getting here. I own three batteries (the one which came with the camera and 
two aftermarket) and all of them work the same and last the same.

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A disastrous farewell to film.

2007-03-28 Thread Peter Jordan
Yesterday was sunny and springlike in Scotland, so I decided to burn up 
some of my last rolls of Velvia. I had some film in my PZ-1 and an LX 
with a partly used roll in it, so I packed a bag and headed into the hills.

There is a lovely glade with photogenic waterfall near us and I set up 
the tripod at the top to take some shots. The PZ-1 was loaded with some 
400 ASA stuff and I snapped a few shots with that ahead of doing some 
slow speed shots of the water. I was about to reload the PZ-1 with 
Velvia when I decided that I'd rather use the slow exposure settings of 
the LX, so put the PZ-1 down, opened the LX back and stared blankly at 
the half finished roll of Velvia that was already in it. Doh!!

I reloaded the LX, set up the tripod, put my F28mm f/2.8 on it and 
started shooting. I then decided I wanted to go a little wider, so went 
back to the bag and picked up the FA* 24mm f/2. I walked back to the 
tripod, slipped, kicked the tripod with LX and lens attached towards the 
waterfall, made a despairing grab for the assemblage and only succeeded 
in sending the 24mm after it.

Trying not to cry, I looked down and saw that both lends and tripod / 
body / lens were stuck against rocks in the water, so I waded out across 
the slippery rocks above the waterfall and managed to retrieve all the kit.

By this stage my appetite for photography had vanished, so I went home, 
put the soaking bits on the central heating boiler to dry out and went 
to read my insurance policy.

I've just looked at the kit and the damage report isn't as bad as I 
thought. The LX looks fine, and the shutter is working in both manual 
and electronic modes, and although I got nothing out of the meter this 
morning, much to my amazement it seems to be working perfectly now. The 
finder is still a bit misty inside, and I need to check the alignment, 
but this 25 year old body seems to have survived a 20 foot fall plus 
partial immersion in a mountain stream for 5 minutes very well.

Even more amazingly, the 28mm also appears to have escaped unscathed! I 
put it on the PZ-1 this morning and it stopped down and autofocused 
perfectly. No damage to any glass either.

The 24mm is slightly less well off. Mechanically and optically still 
perfect, stops down OK, but autofocus is not functioning and my istDL 
can't get any sense out of it in terms of aperture readings etc.

My initial despair has receded somewhat, and it seems that all the 
insurance company has to do is cough up for a repair job on the 24mm.

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Re: About to buy a 645N.........

2007-03-28 Thread Peter Jordan
The two inspire me to a very different style of photography.

Since getting an istDL, I've found myself using it in a much less 
thoughtful mode, using the digital experience to take several shots of 
the subject with varying exposures, angles, focal lengths etc.

When I use my 645 I find myself spending far longer taking a photo and 
making sure that I have exactly the shot I want before I press the shutter.

There is probably a trade of between satisfaction (from the 645) against 
error proofing and convenience (with digital) for me.

I do tend to switch between the two, depending on what I'm doing and 
where I'm going

Peter

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 Hey, are you trying to grab my shopping cart?  ;-)
 
 Seriously ... I love working with the 645 but I still toss and turn  
 over whether to actually buy one. I've hardly looked at it in months.  
 The K10D, on the other hand, is happily collecting 300-400 photos per  
 week for me.
 
 Good luck with it. And enjoy the couch. ;-)
 
 G
 
 On Mar 27, 2007, at 11:59 AM, Scott Loveless wrote:
 
 So there I was, shopping cart loaded with a 645N and a couple of  
 primes, credit card number keyed in, taking one more glance at  
 everything just to make sure it was right.  All I had to do to take  
 my first small step into Bill Robb's big world of enablement  
 suckiness was to click the link that said yer sleeping on the  
 couch for the next month, buddy.

 Then it happened.  My moment of clarity was rudely dismembered by a  
 streak of temporary insanity, the fruits of which arrived today.   
 Kicking and screaming, folks.  Kicking and screaming

 http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/ 
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Re: A disastrous farewell to film.

2007-03-28 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Peter Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 My initial despair has receded somewhat, and it seems that all the 
 insurance company has to do is cough up for a repair job on the 24mm.

So do you want congratulations or commiserations?

I'm glad I wasn't there.


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Re: Anyone a member of NAPP?

2007-03-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
I buy the magazine from time to time. It's quite expensive if you're  
not a member -- around $10 if memory serves me. But it's very  
informative.
Paul
On Mar 27, 2007, at 10:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In a message dated 3/27/2007 3:09:33 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Joining the NAPP is  worth it just for the magazine subscription  
 and the
 great tutorials that you  can get, sometimes discounted, sometimes  
 only if
 you're a member.  Plus  there are discounts on books and other such  
 things.
 Definitely worth the  $90.00 or so to join.

 Shel

 ==
 Thanks,  Shel.

 Funny, I think may have asked this question before. And you were   
 the only
 one that answered before. Or a similar question -- about two years   
 ago.

 Maybe. Senior moment. Thx again.

 Marnie aka Doe :-)




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Re: Pentax Gallery Strangeness

2007-03-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yes, they're hard to predict, but they're overall mix looks good. In  
the hard to predict category, I submitted both of the trailer park  
images I showed here a month or so ago. The one where the woman looks  
somewhat posed in the lawn chair was accepted. That one was not well  
liked here. The shot where she is leaning on the railing of her porch  
and looking wistfully into the distance was rejected. That one was  
liked here. However, the former is a 6x7 image with lots of detail.  
The latter is a 35mm shot that has a more gentle look. Both were  
submitted as BW.
Paul
On Mar 27, 2007, at 10:38 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

 I still can't quite decide when they are going to accept and reject.
 Many of mine that were well liked here were rejected and many that
 were not as well thought of have been accepted.
 What makes it really tricky is deciding what to submit - since you
 can't accurately guess what will be accepted, it is hard to figure out
 what to submit.

 The nearest I can come up with is that they are going for a Geographic
 type look.  So, if the shot is very strong, there is a better chance.
 If it is subtle, probably not.

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 Best regards,
 Bruce


 Tuesday, March 27, 2007, 6:18:22 PM, you wrote:

 WH I uploaded two more recent shots. The flower and the bee  
 (Spring Bee) and
 WH the couple in the Corvette. Someone suggested the Corvette in  
 the Lifestyles
 WH Gallery, which I did.
 WH It was rejected, but the flower/bee was accepted. Go figure.  
 They must have
 WH a ton of flower/insect pics already!!  :-)

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Re: PESO:A24mm+K10D tests

2007-03-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
I've frequently taken cameras and lenses from a dry air conditioned  
house into a steamy 95 degree F garden. Yes, the front element fogs  
up. I just let the camera rest until the fog clears before shooting.  
Never saw any evidence of lasting damage.
Paul
On Mar 28, 2007, at 4:11 AM, mike wilson wrote:



 From: Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/03/28 Wed AM 01:11:26 GMT
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: PESO:A24mm+K10D tests

 Hi Bruce
 Thanks, it's a bit your style, not :-)

 I was too afraid to go into the tropical rooms inside the  
 botanical garden
 because of the high humidity of the air but would have loved to  
 take more
 photos of exotic plants and flowers. I once tried in the Masoala  
 hall in
 the Zurich zoo --  http://www.zoo.ch/index.php?id=967L=3but but  
 my eye
 glasses and lenses where immediately very wet and I didn't want to  
 put my
 photo equipment at risk. While the K10D should stand a sudden  
 change in
 tropical climate I wonder if there is a good way to protect  
 unsealed lenses
 against humitity?

 Greetings
 Markus

 Even unsealed lenses would only be affected if you expanded their  
 volume, pulling the warm, moist air into the cold interior.  If the  
 lens is one that remains dimensionally stable in zoom and focus,  
 you only have the front element to worry about.


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Re: A disastrous farewell to film.

2007-03-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
If your insurance will pay for it, have the LX checked out as well.  
Misalignment is a distinct possibility.
Paul
On Mar 28, 2007, at 6:32 AM, Peter Jordan wrote:

 Yesterday was sunny and springlike in Scotland, so I decided to  
 burn up
 some of my last rolls of Velvia. I had some film in my PZ-1 and an LX
 with a partly used roll in it, so I packed a bag and headed into  
 the hills.

 There is a lovely glade with photogenic waterfall near us and I set up
 the tripod at the top to take some shots. The PZ-1 was loaded with  
 some
 400 ASA stuff and I snapped a few shots with that ahead of doing some
 slow speed shots of the water. I was about to reload the PZ-1 with
 Velvia when I decided that I'd rather use the slow exposure  
 settings of
 the LX, so put the PZ-1 down, opened the LX back and stared blankly at
 the half finished roll of Velvia that was already in it. Doh!!

 I reloaded the LX, set up the tripod, put my F28mm f/2.8 on it and
 started shooting. I then decided I wanted to go a little wider, so  
 went
 back to the bag and picked up the FA* 24mm f/2. I walked back to the
 tripod, slipped, kicked the tripod with LX and lens attached  
 towards the
 waterfall, made a despairing grab for the assemblage and only  
 succeeded
 in sending the 24mm after it.

 Trying not to cry, I looked down and saw that both lends and tripod /
 body / lens were stuck against rocks in the water, so I waded out  
 across
 the slippery rocks above the waterfall and managed to retrieve all  
 the kit.

 By this stage my appetite for photography had vanished, so I went  
 home,
 put the soaking bits on the central heating boiler to dry out and went
 to read my insurance policy.

 I've just looked at the kit and the damage report isn't as bad as I
 thought. The LX looks fine, and the shutter is working in both manual
 and electronic modes, and although I got nothing out of the meter this
 morning, much to my amazement it seems to be working perfectly now.  
 The
 finder is still a bit misty inside, and I need to check the alignment,
 but this 25 year old body seems to have survived a 20 foot fall plus
 partial immersion in a mountain stream for 5 minutes very well.

 Even more amazingly, the 28mm also appears to have escaped  
 unscathed! I
 put it on the PZ-1 this morning and it stopped down and autofocused
 perfectly. No damage to any glass either.

 The 24mm is slightly less well off. Mechanically and optically still
 perfect, stops down OK, but autofocus is not functioning and my istDL
 can't get any sense out of it in terms of aperture readings etc.

 My initial despair has receded somewhat, and it seems that all the
 insurance company has to do is cough up for a repair job on the 24mm.

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RE: The Thingy in the istDS

2007-03-28 Thread Bill Owens
I use the strap pocket from the MZ-S (strap I use on the istD) to keep mine
in when I use a shoe mounted flash.

Bill

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Nikons get them too, dunno about Canons.

I tend to lose them the first time I use a flash.

-Adam


Thibouille wrote:
 Pretty standard on all Pentax camera I saw news which means
 P30T/Z1/SFX/istD/K10D at least ;)
 
 2007/3/28, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I've been using the istDS for about two years and today I noticed a
little
 thingy in the flash attachment.  It looks like it's designed to cover and
 protect the contacts.  That's pretty cool. This is my second DS, and I
 don't recall this protection cover being on the first camera.  Is this a
 standard item, or maybe an optional piece that was installed by the
 original owner of my second camera, which I bought used?


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PESO - old car but fresh air

2007-03-28 Thread Alastair Robertson
Hi

been very busy at work lately so little time to post images.  Anyway,
this is my latest PESO
http://www.pbase.com/kiwibiologist/image/76297366 taken in the carpark
at work.

Not a very carefully constructed picture but one I thought you guys in
the North might like.  This pic says two things about New Zealand:
1.  We hang onto our cars for a long time - this looks to be about a
20 year old car (Ford Laser aka Mazda 323)
2.  The air is pretty clean and we don't use salt on the roads.  Not
sure that you would get lichens to grow in most of the Northern
Hemisphere - or perhaps you do?  Let's see your lichenmost car shots!

Alastair

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Re: The Thingy in the istDS

2007-03-28 Thread David J Brooks
Humm. I don't remember mine with them, unless they are still in the boxes.

Both istD cameras are now missing said cover though.:-)

Dave

On 3/27/07, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nikons get them too, dunno about Canons.

 I tend to lose them the first time I use a flash.

 -Adam


 Thibouille wrote:
  Pretty standard on all Pentax camera I saw news which means
  P30T/Z1/SFX/istD/K10D at least ;)
 
  2007/3/28, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  I've been using the istDS for about two years and today I noticed a little
  thingy in the flash attachment.  It looks like it's designed to cover and
  protect the contacts.  That's pretty cool. This is my second DS, and I
  don't recall this protection cover being on the first camera.  Is this a
  standard item, or maybe an optional piece that was installed by the
  original owner of my second camera, which I bought used?
 
 
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PESO - Neglected

2007-03-28 Thread Peter McIntosh
Hi,

I spent an afternoon in some private gardens at Mt Wilson recently.  On 
the way out I found this old fountain and grabbed a couple of so-so, 
blurry snaps.  My excuse is it was dark in there, the light was waning, 
and I on 2 knee trying to focus, hold everything still and not topple over.

I was sitting here tonight thinking I might as well toss them out, when 
I decided to make the one half-decent shot look as old as the fountain.  
I sorta like the end result, but I'd welcome constructive criticism.  
Here it is:

http://www.pbase.com/petergly/image/76297420

Thanks!

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PESO: Outside Zabar's, New York City

2007-03-28 Thread Walter Hamler
A recent panorama shot made out of 3 photos with the Pentax A24mm (and it's 
barrel distortions ) can be seen here:
Zurich very early in the morning, view from the bellevue at lake Zurich :

Nice shot Markus!  It reminds me that I did shoot a late dusk shot of 
Orlando many years ago, but that was on film with a 645. Maybe I will dig it 
out and play with it some more ;-)
How did the lens distortions play with the stitching process? Do you have to 
correct manually or does the software handle it ok?

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Re: PESO - Neglected

2007-03-28 Thread Boris Liberman
Evidently you are very well versed in PhotoShop, Peter ;-).

I kinda like what I see though I think I might want to see a slightly
less edited variant.

Boris

On 3/28/07, Peter McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I spent an afternoon in some private gardens at Mt Wilson recently.  On
 the way out I found this old fountain and grabbed a couple of so-so,
 blurry snaps.  My excuse is it was dark in there, the light was waning,
 and I on 2 knee trying to focus, hold everything still and not topple over.

 I was sitting here tonight thinking I might as well toss them out, when
 I decided to make the one half-decent shot look as old as the fountain.
 I sorta like the end result, but I'd welcome constructive criticism.
 Here it is:

 http://www.pbase.com/petergly/image/76297420

 Thanks!

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Re: The Thingy in the istDS

2007-03-28 Thread Doug Franklin
Bill Owens wrote:
 I use the strap pocket from the MZ-S (strap I use on the istD) to keep mine
 in when I use a shoe mounted flash.

That is about the best thing about the strap that came with the MZ-S.
Since I tend to keep the camera on for long periods of time, with heavy
lenses attached, I prefer the foam straps, and those two pockets are
the biggest loss in the strap swap.  I'm disappointed that the digital
SLR bodies came with a pocketless strap, in a way.  Since I switch to
the foam straps, though, I'd like to find one of those with similar
pockets.

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OT Photoshop question

2007-03-28 Thread David J Brooks
Sorry to ask this again gang, as i know i have done so last year, but,
What is the procedure to make an out line of an object.

I didi this last year for the camera out line for the GFM hats, and
now want to do same for a guitar outline.
I have downloaded a generic picture of an acustic guitar, and i know i
need to select all,then inverse and pick stroke. I set it at 3 pix,
but when i went to delete the coloured image nothing happens.

What step am i missing.

I think it was one of the Oz members that guided me through this last year.

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Re: PESO - old car but fresh air

2007-03-28 Thread Boris Liberman
It also seems that you grow lichen on steel...

;-)

On 3/28/07, Alastair Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi

 been very busy at work lately so little time to post images.  Anyway,
 this is my latest PESO
 http://www.pbase.com/kiwibiologist/image/76297366 taken in the carpark
 at work.

 Not a very carefully constructed picture but one I thought you guys in
 the North might like.  This pic says two things about New Zealand:
 1.  We hang onto our cars for a long time - this looks to be about a
 20 year old car (Ford Laser aka Mazda 323)
 2.  The air is pretty clean and we don't use salt on the roads.  Not
 sure that you would get lichens to grow in most of the Northern
 Hemisphere - or perhaps you do?  Let's see your lichenmost car shots!

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Re: OT Photoshop question

2007-03-28 Thread David Savage
Here you go Dave:

http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/CO/Misc_011.htm

The principal is the same.

Cheers,

Dave

On 3/28/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sorry to ask this again gang, as i know i have done so last year, but,
 What is the procedure to make an out line of an object.

 I didi this last year for the camera out line for the GFM hats, and
 now want to do same for a guitar outline.
 I have downloaded a generic picture of an acustic guitar, and i know i
 need to select all,then inverse and pick stroke. I set it at 3 pix,
 but when i went to delete the coloured image nothing happens.

 What step am i missing.

 I think it was one of the Oz members that guided me through this last year.

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Re: Battery life on K10D

2007-03-28 Thread David J Brooks
I think i reported about 400 when mine died a week or two ago, but i
misinformed you. It was more around 280.

However it was the first charge and battery was in the camera from mid
December to second week of March, so it probably lost a bit sitting
around at times.

I also wondered if it might pick up, as my D200 batteries didi this at
first, low number of shots , but after a few charges are producing
about double when used and abused, not used a bit and then sitting.

Dave

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 I've never been able to shoot more than 400 pix per battery charge, 350-370
 being my usual score with LCD auto-review turned off and using flash very
 very litle or not at all. Not bad, but far from over 1,000 shots as some are
 getting here. I own three batteries (the one which came with the camera and
 two aftermarket) and all of them work the same and last the same.

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Re: PESO:A24mm+K10D tests

2007-03-28 Thread David J Brooks
Very nice.

I don't have the A24, just the A28, but i'll be taking that lens to
Vegas next month.

Several of the hotels have very nice gardens and i'll need the extra
stop or two. The SR on the K10D should helpa aswell.

Dave

On 3/27/07, Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Pentaxians

 A first sample with the A24mm in low light on the K10D handheld at F 2.8
 1/30 sec ISO 400.
 I will reshoot these photos in the botanical garden of Zurich with the A50mm
 macro and a monopod soon but still like this one so far.

 http://www.mypage.bluewin.ch/solicom/botan24mm1.jpg (270KB)


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Re: OT Photoshop question

2007-03-28 Thread David J Brooks
Thats it Dave.

I forgot step 4 to fill the object.

Dave

On 3/28/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Here you go Dave:

 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/CO/Misc_011.htm

 The principal is the same.

 Cheers,

 Dave

 On 3/28/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Sorry to ask this again gang, as i know i have done so last year, but,
  What is the procedure to make an out line of an object.
 
  I didi this last year for the camera out line for the GFM hats, and
  now want to do same for a guitar outline.
  I have downloaded a generic picture of an acustic guitar, and i know i
  need to select all,then inverse and pick stroke. I set it at 3 pix,
  but when i went to delete the coloured image nothing happens.
 
  What step am i missing.
 
  I think it was one of the Oz members that guided me through this last year.
 
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Re: Pentax Gallery Strangeness

2007-03-28 Thread Jack Davis
I agree. Seems they go for the highly juiced. I've shamefully found
myself nudging the hue/saturation slider, ever so slightly, while
questioning my moral discipline. 8-/

Jack 
--- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I still can't quite decide when they are going to accept and reject.
 Many of mine that were well liked here were rejected and many that
 were not as well thought of have been accepted.
 What makes it really tricky is deciding what to submit - since you
 can't accurately guess what will be accepted, it is hard to figure
 out
 what to submit.
 
 The nearest I can come up with is that they are going for a
 Geographic
 type look.  So, if the shot is very strong, there is a better chance.
 If it is subtle, probably not.
 
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 Tuesday, March 27, 2007, 6:18:22 PM, you wrote:
 
 WH I uploaded two more recent shots. The flower and the bee (Spring
 Bee) and
 WH the couple in the Corvette. Someone suggested the Corvette in the
 Lifestyles
 WH Gallery, which I did.
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Re: The Thingy in the istDS

2007-03-28 Thread David Savage
Why not just sew a pocket on?

Cheers,

Dave (For the record I leave the hot shoe cover off.)

On 3/28/07, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bill Owens wrote:
  I use the strap pocket from the MZ-S (strap I use on the istD) to keep mine
  in when I use a shoe mounted flash.

 That is about the best thing about the strap that came with the MZ-S.
 Since I tend to keep the camera on for long periods of time, with heavy
 lenses attached, I prefer the foam straps, and those two pockets are
 the biggest loss in the strap swap.  I'm disappointed that the digital
 SLR bodies came with a pocketless strap, in a way.  Since I switch to
 the foam straps, though, I'd like to find one of those with similar
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Human bone? 800x533-IMGP8963.jpg (JPEG Image, 800x533 pixels)

2007-03-28 Thread Roman
http://roman.blakout.net/r-rated/800x533-IMGP8963.jpg
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Re: Anyone a member of NAPP?

2007-03-28 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I've been thinking of joining for a while. Haven't gotten to it yet.

I just had a look at their web site. Educational membership! Woo hoo! 
Ten dollar discount... Well, better than a sharp stick in the eye, as 
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RE: A disastrous farewell to film.

2007-03-28 Thread Markus Maurer
I'm sorry for you Peter but wonder what kind of insurance would cover such
an accident.
At least here in Switzerland there exists no insurance for that since it was
your own camera equipment and no third party was involved.
Greetings
Markus


 

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Subject: A disastrous farewell to film. 

Yesterday was sunny and springlike in Scotland, so I decided to burn up 
some of my last rolls of Velvia. I had some film in my PZ-1 and an LX 
with a partly used roll in it, so I packed a bag and headed into the hills.

There is a lovely glade with photogenic waterfall near us and I set up 
the tripod at the top to take some shots. The PZ-1 was loaded with some 
400 ASA stuff and I snapped a few shots with that ahead of doing some 
slow speed shots of the water. I was about to reload the PZ-1 with 
Velvia when I decided that I'd rather use the slow exposure settings of 
the LX, so put the PZ-1 down, opened the LX back and stared blankly at 
the half finished roll of Velvia that was already in it. Doh!!

I reloaded the LX, set up the tripod, put my F28mm f/2.8 on it and 
started shooting. I then decided I wanted to go a little wider, so went 
back to the bag and picked up the FA* 24mm f/2. I walked back to the 
tripod, slipped, kicked the tripod with LX and lens attached towards the 
waterfall, made a despairing grab for the assemblage and only succeeded 
in sending the 24mm after it.

Trying not to cry, I looked down and saw that both lends and tripod / 
body / lens were stuck against rocks in the water, so I waded out across 
the slippery rocks above the waterfall and managed to retrieve all the kit.

By this stage my appetite for photography had vanished, so I went home, 
put the soaking bits on the central heating boiler to dry out and went 
to read my insurance policy.

I've just looked at the kit and the damage report isn't as bad as I 
thought. The LX looks fine, and the shutter is working in both manual 
and electronic modes, and although I got nothing out of the meter this 
morning, much to my amazement it seems to be working perfectly now. The 
finder is still a bit misty inside, and I need to check the alignment, 
but this 25 year old body seems to have survived a 20 foot fall plus 
partial immersion in a mountain stream for 5 minutes very well.

Even more amazingly, the 28mm also appears to have escaped unscathed! I 
put it on the PZ-1 this morning and it stopped down and autofocused 
perfectly. No damage to any glass either.

The 24mm is slightly less well off. Mechanically and optically still 
perfect, stops down OK, but autofocus is not functioning and my istDL 
can't get any sense out of it in terms of aperture readings etc.

My initial despair has receded somewhat, and it seems that all the 
insurance company has to do is cough up for a repair job on the 24mm.

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RE: PESO - old car but fresh air

2007-03-28 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Alastair
Well seen!
I can't help I only have some  photos of good looking (red) cars :-)
Greetings
Markus

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Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:40 PM
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Subject: PESO - old car but fresh air

Hi

been very busy at work lately so little time to post images.  Anyway,
this is my latest PESO
http://www.pbase.com/kiwibiologist/image/76297366 taken in the carpark
at work.

Not a very carefully constructed picture but one I thought you guys in
the North might like.  This pic says two things about New Zealand:
1.  We hang onto our cars for a long time - this looks to be about a
20 year old car (Ford Laser aka Mazda 323)
2.  The air is pretty clean and we don't use salt on the roads.  Not
sure that you would get lichens to grow in most of the Northern
Hemisphere - or perhaps you do?  Let's see your lichenmost car shots!

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RE: PESO:A24mm+K10D tests

2007-03-28 Thread Markus Maurer
That's good to know Paul.
So maybe I just was not patient enough to wait for the acclimatization. I
will therefore try it at the botanical garden in Zurich, it's less
tropical than the Masoala hall in the zoo.
Greetings
Markus
 

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Subject: Re: PESO:A24mm+K10D tests

I've frequently taken cameras and lenses from a dry air conditioned  
house into a steamy 95 degree F garden. Yes, the front element fogs  
up. I just let the camera rest until the fog clears before shooting.  
Never saw any evidence of lasting damage.
Paul
On Mar 28, 2007, at 4:11 AM, mike wilson wrote:



 From: Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/03/28 Wed AM 01:11:26 GMT
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: PESO:A24mm+K10D tests

 Hi Bruce
 Thanks, it's a bit your style, not :-)

 I was too afraid to go into the tropical rooms inside the  
 botanical garden
 because of the high humidity of the air but would have loved to  
 take more
 photos of exotic plants and flowers. I once tried in the Masoala  
 hall in
 the Zurich zoo --  http://www.zoo.ch/index.php?id=967L=3but but  
 my eye
 glasses and lenses where immediately very wet and I didn't want to  
 put my
 photo equipment at risk. While the K10D should stand a sudden  
 change in
 tropical climate I wonder if there is a good way to protect  
 unsealed lenses
 against humitity?

 Greetings
 Markus

 Even unsealed lenses would only be affected if you expanded their  
 volume, pulling the warm, moist air into the cold interior.  If the  
 lens is one that remains dimensionally stable in zoom and focus,  
 you only have the front element to worry about.


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Re: A disastrous farewell to film.

2007-03-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/28/2007 3:53:22 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 From:  Peter Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 My initial  despair has receded somewhat, and it seems that all the 
 insurance  company has to do is cough up for a repair job on the 24mm.

So do you  want congratulations or commiserations?

I'm glad I wasn't  there.


What he said. Both. :-)

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Re: Anyone a member of NAPP?

2007-03-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/28/2007 6:14:04 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:

I've been thinking of joining for a while. Haven't gotten to  it yet.

I just had a look at their web site. Educational membership! Woo  hoo! 
Ten dollar discount... Well, better than a sharp stick in the eye, as  
they say.


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RE: PESO:A24mm+K10D tests

2007-03-28 Thread Markus Maurer
Thanks David
The SR surely gives me much more photo opportunities in low light than I
ever had with a film body.
Still a monopod is a good addition and less to carry than a tripod.
I liked the Takumar-A 28mm on the K10D too so far but the A24mm wider angle
will be better for suited for street photography for me.
Greetings
Markus
   

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Very nice.

I don't have the A24, just the A28, but i'll be taking that lens to
Vegas next month.

Several of the hotels have very nice gardens and i'll need the extra
stop or two. The SR on the K10D should helpa aswell.

Dave

On 3/27/07, Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Pentaxians

 A first sample with the A24mm in low light on the K10D handheld at F 2.8
 1/30 sec ISO 400.
 I will reshoot these photos in the botanical garden of Zurich with the
A50mm
 macro and a monopod soon but still like this one so far.

 http://www.mypage.bluewin.ch/solicom/botan24mm1.jpg (270KB)


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Re: Anyone a member of NAPP?

2007-03-28 Thread Otis C. Wright, Jr.
Joined NAPP for the magazine when I purchased Photoshop a few years 
ago.   Has been a great investment. The information for the most part 
seems to be of good quality, and my command of Photoshop features 
continues to benefit from the tutorials.

Have recovered a large portion of the investment from promotional 
discounts such as free shipping from BHPV which has been a major savings 
for me in recent years as my active camera inventory grew from 1 to 7.

Otis Wright

Paul Stenquist wrote:

I buy the magazine from time to time. It's quite expensive if you're  
not a member -- around $10 if memory serves me. But it's very  
informative.
Paul
On Mar 27, 2007, at 10:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

In a message dated 3/27/2007 3:09:33 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Joining the NAPP is  worth it just for the magazine subscription  
and the
great tutorials that you  can get, sometimes discounted, sometimes  
only if
you're a member.  Plus  there are discounts on books and other such  
things.
Definitely worth the  $90.00 or so to join.

Shel

==
Thanks,  Shel.

Funny, I think may have asked this question before. And you were   
the only
one that answered before. Or a similar question -- about two years   
ago.

Maybe. Senior moment. Thx again.

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Re: Anyone a member of NAPP?

2007-03-28 Thread David J Brooks
Only 7.

Dave

On 3/28/07, Otis C. Wright, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Joined NAPP for the magazine when I purchased Photoshop a few years
 ago.   Has been a great investment. The information for the most part
 seems to be of good quality, and my command of Photoshop features
 continues to benefit from the tutorials.

 Have recovered a large portion of the investment from promotional
 discounts such as free shipping from BHPV which has been a major savings
 for me in recent years as my active camera inventory grew from 1 to 7.

 Otis Wright

 Paul Stenquist wrote:

 I buy the magazine from time to time. It's quite expensive if you're
 not a member -- around $10 if memory serves me. But it's very
 informative.
 Paul
 On Mar 27, 2007, at 10:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 In a message dated 3/27/2007 3:09:33 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Joining the NAPP is  worth it just for the magazine subscription
 and the
 great tutorials that you  can get, sometimes discounted, sometimes
 only if
 you're a member.  Plus  there are discounts on books and other such
 things.
 Definitely worth the  $90.00 or so to join.
 
 Shel
 
 ==
 Thanks,  Shel.
 
 Funny, I think may have asked this question before. And you were
 the only
 one that answered before. Or a similar question -- about two years
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Re: About to buy a 645N.........

2007-03-28 Thread Eactivist
Actually, if anyone thinks they'll want the  digital when it comes down the 
tubes... I've noticed on ebay that NOW is a very  good time to buy lenses. 
Prices are good. After it comes out, they won't  be.

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Re: Anyone a member of NAPP?

2007-03-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/28/2007 6:44:45 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Joined NAPP for the magazine  when I purchased Photoshop a few years 
ago.   Has been a great  investment. The information for the most part 
seems to be of good quality,  and my command of Photoshop features 
continues to benefit from the  tutorials.

Have recovered a large portion of the investment from  promotional 
discounts such as free shipping from BHPV which has been a major  savings 
for me in recent years as my active camera inventory grew from 1 to  7.

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Re: OT Photoshop question

2007-03-28 Thread David Savage
Your welcome.

Cheers,

Dave

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 I forgot step 4 to fill the object.

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Re: A disastrous farewell to film.

2007-03-28 Thread Cotty
On 28/3/07, Markus Maurer, discombobulated, unleashed:

I'm sorry for you Peter but wonder what kind of insurance would cover such
an accident.
At least here in Switzerland there exists no insurance for that since it was
your own camera equipment and no third party was involved.

How odd - you can't insure against accidental damage? For my TV gear I
pay a grand a year for accidental damage, public liability, and
employer's liability - and the stills gear is included. Even on non-
professional policies, accidental damage is an absolute - else why have
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Re: A disastrous farewell to film.

2007-03-28 Thread Cotty
On 28/3/07, Peter Jordan, discombobulated, unleashed:

I walked back to the 
tripod, slipped, kicked the tripod with LX and lens

Look on the bright side, at least you didn't kick the bucket ;-)

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Re: Human bone? 800x533-IMGP8963.jpg (JPEG Image, 800x533 pixels)

2007-03-28 Thread Cotty
On 28/3/07, Roman, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://roman.blakout.net/r-rated/800x533-IMGP8963.jpg
^^^
Is this the  human bone fragment? Ideas appreciated...

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Re: Human bone? 800x533-IMGP8963.jpg (JPEG Image, 800x533 pixels)

2007-03-28 Thread David J Brooks
I see a small red fibre. Get it to trace.

Dave

On 3/28/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 28/3/07, Roman, discombobulated, unleashed:

 http://roman.blakout.net/r-rated/800x533-IMGP8963.jpg
 ^^^
 Is this the  human bone fragment? Ideas appreciated...

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Re: Pentax Gallery Strangeness

2007-03-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/28/2007 6:13:09 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I agree. Seems they go for  the highly juiced. I've shamefully found
myself nudging the hue/saturation  slider, ever so slightly, while
questioning my moral discipline.  8-/

Jack 


No different, I am sure that many  photographers did for years to sell to 
magazines. I mean, there was a reason for  Velvia, you know.

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More in the Chinese viewfinder screens

2007-03-28 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Had the replacement for my Chinese viewfinder screen in the mail today.
The first one they had sent me was one of a whole batch that had
apparently turned out a little wide and they replaced it rather swiftly.

This one not only fits perfectly, now, but they've added the little nose
found on the original Pentax screens and which makes handling so much
easier.

Overall, I'm very pleased with it.

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Re: Anyone a member of NAPP?

2007-03-28 Thread wendy beard
I used to be a member, but I let it lapse in January.
I liked the magazines very much but hardly ever had time to view the
tutorials on the site. Now I only have dial-up at home I probably
wouldn't have the patience to sit and look at the videos. Member
benefits were less for me, not living in the US. I would have like to
take advantage of the free shipping from BH :-)

Wendy

On 3/27/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 National Association of Photoshop Professionals  -- they are having a seminar
 in SF next month I might go to. I don't need to be  a member for that.

 But I also notice on their web page that they have PS  TV with flash or
 something videos that have little lessons and/or tips and  tricks. I am 
 getting
 more and more into studying PS (with a book), and I wonder  if anyone is a 
 member
 and/or has seen their TV thingees.

 In other words,  have you gotten anything out of being a member? And if not a
 member, but you've  used their site, have you gotten anything out of that?

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Re: Human bone? 800x533-IMGP8963.jpg (JPEG Image, 800x533 pixels)

2007-03-28 Thread Cotty
On 28/3/07, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

I see a small red fibre. Get it to trace.

LOL

Yea, better dust for eptheel...epithleeli...epiltheel...oh hell. Fingerprints.

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Re: The Thingy in the istDS

2007-03-28 Thread P. J. Alling
Actually they they're not saving money.  Starting with the M series of 
cameras, that I'm aware of at least, (maybe earlier, I seem to remember 
something similar on the ESII, but I don't have one available to look at 
right now). Pentax incorporated a switch in the hot shoe, usually on the 
right side which interrupted power flow to the electrical contacts when 
a flash was not mounted.  The rational for this was that a user wouldn't 
shock themselves when using a flash attached to the PC connection,  
which was possible with a number of cameras IIRC.  That switch is 
missing on the *ist D, which has a PC connector, (probably the same 
function is done electronically), and though it doesn't serve the same 
function since the Ds doesn't have a PC connector, the the switch is 
present on the Ds.  The cutout is to keep from stressing the spring on 
that switch. 


mike wilson wrote:
 From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/03/27 Tue PM 11:03:32 GMT
 To: PDML PDML@pdml.net
 Subject: The Thingy in the istDS

 I've been using the istDS for about two years and today I noticed a little
 thingy in the flash attachment.  It looks like it's designed to cover and
 protect the contacts.  That's pretty cool. This is my second DS, and I
 don't recall this protection cover being on the first camera.  Is this a
 standard item, or maybe an optional piece that was installed by the
 original owner of my second camera, which I bought used?  

 

 Standard fitment in most new cameras of quality.  Even my Zenits had one.  
 The one for the Z1-p was a most bizarre shape, due to the location of the 
 shoe.  The DL/2 has cutouts on the locating rails (in fact, on one side the 
 rail is almost completely missing) to save a farthing's worth of plastic.  I 
 think you can get a Leica one made in precious metal and set with gemstones.  
 It's an optional extra on the Paris Hilton Sex Tape Commemorative model.


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Re: Human bone? 800x533-IMGP8963.jpg (JPEG Image, 800x533 pixels)

2007-03-28 Thread David Savage
trace here:

It turns out it isn't red fibre, but a red hair. Of the short  curly
variety. It's been sent for DNA  for testing

Cheers,

trace

On 3/28/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I see a small red fibre. Get it to trace.

 Dave

 On 3/28/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 28/3/07, Roman, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
  http://roman.blakout.net/r-rated/800x533-IMGP8963.jpg
  ^^^
  Is this the  human bone fragment? Ideas appreciated...
 
  Looks like a funny bone to me.
 
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Re: SDHC cards

2007-03-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Yes, cameras rarely meet the card's maximum rated speed. I've also  
never found a reader that permitted the maximum rated read speed either.

That's been true forever. On this chart, which BTW only shows up to  
2G capacity Extreme III not the 4G Extreme III SDHC, the Extreme III  
are the fastest. I would like to see a timing test which measured  
read speed in a good card reader...

Godfrey

On Mar 28, 2007, at 12:42 AM, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:

 That's theory. In practice there can be some differencies, look at
 Nikon D80 results:
 http://robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=6007-8531

 On 27.03.2007, at 18:10 , Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 Until very recently, Sandisk only offered up to the Ultra II cards
 (66x) in 4Gbyte SDHC compatible format, where the faster Extreme III
 cards max'ed out at 2Gbyte. Now they are offering the Extreme III
 cards in this format. I have not seen any reviews of the Extreme III
 SDHC as yet, but I would expect that they meet the Extreme III
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Re: Anyone a member of NAPP?

2007-03-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/28/2007 7:19:05 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I used to be a member,  but I let it lapse in January.
I liked the magazines very much but hardly  ever had time to view the
tutorials on the site. Now I only have dial-up at  home I probably
wouldn't have the patience to sit and look at the videos.  Member
benefits were less for me, not living in the US. I would have like  to
take advantage of the free shipping from BH  :-)

Wendy


Thanks, Wendy.

Hmmm, free  shipping from BH, that might make the whole thing worth it.

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test

2007-03-28 Thread Shel Belinkoff



Shel
Why in Hell should I have to Press 1 for English?!!! 



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Opinions of DA 40?

2007-03-28 Thread Eactivist
Well, I ordered the DA 50-200 from Adorama. It  was in stock when I ordered, 
but they tell me that now it's out, and I'll have  to wait. Probably that 
rebate thing.

I'd also like a fast prime.  Something for stealth photography, as when I 
want to do street photography,  i.e. unaware people shots. Something shorter 
than a long zoom -- less  conspicuous. Guess one couldn't get much shorter than 
the DA 40.  

Opinions? Focus good? Any focus fall off? CA? Whatever? What would the  crop 
factor on this one be on digital? Come out to about 55mm?

TIA,  Marnie aka Doe ;-)  Course if I do order it, it is bound to go out of 
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Re: Human bone? 800x533-IMGP8963.jpg (JPEG Image, 800x533 pixels)

2007-03-28 Thread P. J. Alling
It could be a bone fragment, (human or or other mammal).  It could be a 
piece of Plaster of Paris, or concrete, (Portland Cement), hard to tell 
from a photograph.  It looks very warn and weathered.

Roman wrote:
 http://roman.blakout.net/r-rated/800x533-IMGP8963.jpg
 ^^^
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Re: test

2007-03-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/28/2007 7:47:04 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Shel
Why in Hell  should I have to Press 1 for English?!!! 

==
Because you're a  PC kinda guy.

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RE: Opinions of DA 40?

2007-03-28 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I like long lenses for candid unaware people street shots.
The further away you are the easier it is to go
unnoticed. 40mm would be way too short for me, even on APS
format...
jco

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Well, I ordered the DA 50-200 from Adorama. It  was in stock when I
ordered, 
but they tell me that now it's out, and I'll have  to wait. Probably
that 
rebate thing.

I'd also like a fast prime.  Something for stealth photography, as when
I 
want to do street photography,  i.e. unaware people shots. Something
shorter 
than a long zoom -- less  conspicuous. Guess one couldn't get much
shorter than 
the DA 40.  

Opinions? Focus good? Any focus fall off? CA? Whatever? What would the
crop 
factor on this one be on digital? Come out to about 55mm?

TIA,  Marnie aka Doe ;-)  Course if I do order it, it is bound to go out
of 
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Re: Opinions of DA 40?

2007-03-28 Thread Adam Maas
60mm equivalent, not fast at all (f2.8), almost too small (don't expect 
to use the manual focus much), excellent optics. I'd much rather get the 
35/2 or the 43/1.9 Limited as a fast prime in that range, they're a stop 
or more faster, and large enough to handle well.

-Adam


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Well, I ordered the DA 50-200 from Adorama. It  was in stock when I ordered, 
but they tell me that now it's out, and I'll have  to wait. Probably that 
rebate thing.

I'd also like a fast prime.  Something for stealth photography, as when I 
want to do street photography,  i.e. unaware people shots. Something shorter 
than a long zoom -- less  conspicuous. Guess one couldn't get much shorter 
than 
the DA 40.  

Opinions? Focus good? Any focus fall off? CA? Whatever? What would the  crop 
factor on this one be on digital? Come out to about 55mm?

TIA,  Marnie aka Doe ;-)  Course if I do order it, it is bound to go out of 
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Re: Opinions of DA 40?

2007-03-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/28/2007 7:48:31 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I like long lenses for  candid unaware people street shots.
The further away you are the easier it is  to go
unnoticed. 40mm would be way too short for me, even on  APS
format...
jco

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On, the whole, I agree, but it's a  toss up. A longer lens is also a lot more 
noticeable.

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Re: A disastrous farewell to film.

2007-03-28 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm sorry for you Peter but wonder what kind of insurance would cover such
 an accident.

My camera insurance (Alte Leipziger Versicherung AG) covers theft, loss,
and all kinds of accidental damage, practically every conceivable kind
of mishap with the only exception of simply forgetting the camera on a
train or elsewhere (literally liegengelassen).

Further conditions: no coverage if stolen from the car between 11 pm and
7 am, and the gear must not be visible from outside of the vehicle (and
even this latter condition is waived for rented cars).

When I dropped my 6x17 panorama camera in France, over Xmas, they paid
the repair after I simply faxed them a copy of the price estimate from
Nikon. No further questions asked. In fact, I had the money on my
account even before Nikon had completed the repair.

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Re: A disastrous farewell to film.

2007-03-28 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Peter Jordan
Subject: A disastrous farewell to film.



 My initial despair has receded somewhat, and it seems that all the
 insurance company has to do is cough up for a repair job on the 24mm.

Send everything in for repair anyway.
Water inside the camera will eventually cause rust, and a camera that stops 
working.
Same with the lens.

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Re: Opinions of DA 40?

2007-03-28 Thread P. J. Alling
The DA 40 doesn't strike me as being fast enough for general use.  It's 
supposed to be the same optical formula as the M 40 and I've gotten very 
good results with that on an ME as a stealth combination, but it will 
have a very different character on a digital body.  The M is sharp 
enough on FF and the DA is supposed to be better on APS, (and is said to 
cover the 24x36mm format).  The crop factor gives it the AOV of a 60mm 
on 35mm.  I tend to use the 43ltd. for the same purpose on the *ist-D/Ds.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well, I ordered the DA 50-200 from Adorama. It  was in stock when I ordered, 
 but they tell me that now it's out, and I'll have  to wait. Probably that 
 rebate thing.

 I'd also like a fast prime.  Something for stealth photography, as when I 
 want to do street photography,  i.e. unaware people shots. Something 
 shorter 
 than a long zoom -- less  conspicuous. Guess one couldn't get much shorter 
 than 
 the DA 40.  

 Opinions? Focus good? Any focus fall off? CA? Whatever? What would the  crop 
 factor on this one be on digital? Come out to about 55mm?

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Re: Human bone? 800x533-IMGP8963.jpg (JPEG Image, 800x533 pixels)

2007-03-28 Thread Gonz
It looks like Jimmy Hoffa's knee.


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Re: Opinions of DA 40?

2007-03-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/28/2007 7:54:51 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
60mm equivalent, not fast  at all (f2.8), almost too small (don't expect 
to use the manual focus much),  excellent optics. I'd much rather get the 
35/2 or the 43/1.9 Limited as a  fast prime in that range, they're a stop 
or more faster, and large enough to  handle well.

-Adam

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Well, faster than I currently  have, which I think the fastest is 3.5 at some 
focal lengths on one of my  zooms.

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Re: Opinions of DA 40?

2007-03-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/28/2007 7:57:06 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The DA 40 doesn't  strike me as being fast enough for general use.  It's 
supposed to be  the same optical formula as the M 40 and I've gotten very 
good results with  that on an ME as a stealth combination, but it will 
have a very different  character on a digital body.  The M is sharp 
enough on FF and the DA is  supposed to be better on APS, (and is said to 
cover the 24x36mm  format).  The crop factor gives it the AOV of a 60mm 
on 35mm.  I  tend to use the 43ltd. for the same purpose on the  *ist-D/Ds.

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Re: test

2007-03-28 Thread David Savage
Because having to press 9 followed by # would be even more annoying.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: PESO:A24mm+K10D tests

2007-03-28 Thread mike wilson
Can't remember _ever_ taking a camera to a warmer outdoors in the daytime.  8-)
 
 From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: Re: PESO:A24mm+K10D tests
 
 I've frequently taken cameras and lenses from a dry air conditioned  
 house into a steamy 95 degree F garden. Yes, the front element fogs  
 up. I just let the camera rest until the fog clears before shooting.  
 Never saw any evidence of lasting damage.
 Paul
 On Mar 28, 2007, at 4:11 AM, mike wilson wrote:
 
 
 
  From: Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2007/03/28 Wed AM 01:11:26 GMT
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  Subject: RE: PESO:A24mm+K10D tests
 
  Hi Bruce
  Thanks, it's a bit your style, not :-)
 
  I was too afraid to go into the tropical rooms inside the  
  botanical garden
  because of the high humidity of the air but would have loved to  
  take more
  photos of exotic plants and flowers. I once tried in the Masoala  
  hall in
  the Zurich zoo --  http://www.zoo.ch/index.php?id=967L=3but but  
  my eye
  glasses and lenses where immediately very wet and I didn't want to  
  put my
  photo equipment at risk. While the K10D should stand a sudden  
  change in
  tropical climate I wonder if there is a good way to protect  
  unsealed lenses
  against humitity?
 
  Greetings
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Re: Opinions of DA 40?

2007-03-28 Thread David Savage
On 3/29/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I tend to use the 43ltd. for the same purpose on the *ist-D/Ds.

I use the FA 50mm f1.4.

Sometimes that f1.4 aperture is the difference between getting the
shot and getting a blurry mess.

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Re: Human bone? 800x533-IMGP8963.jpg (JPEG Image, 800x533 pixels)

2007-03-28 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/03/28 Wed PM 02:21:57 GMT
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 Subject: Re: Human bone? 800x533-IMGP8963.jpg (JPEG Image, 800x533 pixels)
 
 trace here:
 
 It turns out it isn't red fibre, but a red hair. Of the short  curly
 variety. It's been sent for DNA  for testing
 
 Cheers,
 
 trace

Sounds like it could be Mark's bone.

 
 On 3/28/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I see a small red fibre. Get it to trace.
 
  Dave
 
  On 3/28/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On 28/3/07, Roman, discombobulated, unleashed:
  
   http://roman.blakout.net/r-rated/800x533-IMGP8963.jpg
   ^^^
   Is this the  human bone fragment? Ideas appreciated...
  
   Looks like a funny bone to me.
  
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Re: PESO:A24mm+K10D tests

2007-03-28 Thread P. J. Alling
Everything's air conditioned in the American Southland.

mike wilson wrote:
 Can't remember _ever_ taking a camera to a warmer outdoors in the daytime.  
 8-)
   
 From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/03/28 Wed AM 10:56:33 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: PESO:A24mm+K10D tests

 I've frequently taken cameras and lenses from a dry air conditioned  
 house into a steamy 95 degree F garden. Yes, the front element fogs  
 up. I just let the camera rest until the fog clears before shooting.  
 Never saw any evidence of lasting damage.
 Paul
 On Mar 28, 2007, at 4:11 AM, mike wilson wrote:

 
 From: Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/03/28 Wed AM 01:11:26 GMT
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: PESO:A24mm+K10D tests

 Hi Bruce
 Thanks, it's a bit your style, not :-)

 I was too afraid to go into the tropical rooms inside the  
 botanical garden
 because of the high humidity of the air but would have loved to  
 take more
 photos of exotic plants and flowers. I once tried in the Masoala  
 hall in
 the Zurich zoo --  http://www.zoo.ch/index.php?id=967L=3but but  
 my eye
 glasses and lenses where immediately very wet and I didn't want to  
 put my
 photo equipment at risk. While the K10D should stand a sudden  
 change in
 tropical climate I wonder if there is a good way to protect  
 unsealed lenses
 against humitity?

 Greetings
 Markus
 
 Even unsealed lenses would only be affected if you expanded their  
 volume, pulling the warm, moist air into the cold interior.  If the  
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Re: test

2007-03-28 Thread P. J. Alling
I ask myself the same question at the ATM,  (stupid programmers...)

Shel Belinkoff wrote:

 Shel
 Why in Hell should I have to Press 1 for English?!!! 



   


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Re: PESO - Neglected

2007-03-28 Thread Bruce Dayton
That light patch on the top right coming down near the fountain really
commands my attention.  It makes it so that I have trouble really
picking out the subject.  I suspect the white sloppy border makes this
feel even worse.  This one doesn't work for me.

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Wednesday, March 28, 2007, 5:08:48 AM, you wrote:

PM Hi,

PM I spent an afternoon in some private gardens at Mt Wilson recently.  On
PM the way out I found this old fountain and grabbed a couple of so-so,
PM blurry snaps.  My excuse is it was dark in there, the light was waning,
PM and I on 2 knee trying to focus, hold everything still and not topple over.

PM I was sitting here tonight thinking I might as well toss them out, when
PM I decided to make the one half-decent shot look as old as the fountain.
PM I sorta like the end result, but I'd welcome constructive criticism.
PM Here it is:

PM http://www.pbase.com/petergly/image/76297420

PM Thanks!

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Re: Pentax Gallery Strangeness

2007-03-28 Thread Bruce Dayton
This may sound funny, but in some respects, it almost feels like there
is a ratio - at least when you have submitted a fair number.  I'm
running about 50% right now and that seems to hold steady.  I'm
wondering if those who have submitted more than 20 are seeing anything
like that.

-- 
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Wednesday, March 28, 2007, 3:45:27 AM, you wrote:

PS Yes, they're hard to predict, but they're overall mix looks good. In
PS the hard to predict category, I submitted both of the trailer park
PS images I showed here a month or so ago. The one where the woman looks
PS somewhat posed in the lawn chair was accepted. That one was not well
PS liked here. The shot where she is leaning on the railing of her porch
PS and looking wistfully into the distance was rejected. That one was
PS liked here. However, the former is a 6x7 image with lots of detail.
PS The latter is a 35mm shot that has a more gentle look. Both were
PS submitted as BW.
PS Paul
PS On Mar 27, 2007, at 10:38 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

 I still can't quite decide when they are going to accept and reject.
 Many of mine that were well liked here were rejected and many that
 were not as well thought of have been accepted.
 What makes it really tricky is deciding what to submit - since you
 can't accurately guess what will be accepted, it is hard to figure out
 what to submit.

 The nearest I can come up with is that they are going for a Geographic
 type look.  So, if the shot is very strong, there is a better chance.
 If it is subtle, probably not.

 -- 
 Best regards,
 Bruce


 Tuesday, March 27, 2007, 6:18:22 PM, you wrote:

 WH I uploaded two more recent shots. The flower and the bee  
 (Spring Bee) and
 WH the couple in the Corvette. Someone suggested the Corvette in  
 the Lifestyles
 WH Gallery, which I did.
 WH It was rejected, but the flower/bee was accepted. Go figure.  
 They must have
 WH a ton of flower/insect pics already!!  :-)

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Re: The Thingy in the istDS

2007-03-28 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/03/28 Wed PM 03:20:51 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: The Thingy in the istDS
 
 Actually they they're not saving money.  Starting with the M series of 
 cameras, that I'm aware of at least, (maybe earlier, I seem to remember 
 something similar on the ESII, but I don't have one available to look at 
 right now). Pentax incorporated a switch in the hot shoe, usually on the 
 right side which interrupted power flow to the electrical contacts when 
 a flash was not mounted.  The rational for this was that a user wouldn't 
 shock themselves when using a flash attached to the PC connection,  
 which was possible with a number of cameras IIRC.  That switch is 
 missing on the *ist D, which has a PC connector, (probably the same 
 function is done electronically), and though it doesn't serve the same 
 function since the Ds doesn't have a PC connector, the the switch is 
 present on the Ds.  The cutout is to keep from stressing the spring on 
 that switch. 

True for the DL/2.  Will have to check the Z when I get home - about seven 
minutes from now.

 
 
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  Subject: The Thingy in the istDS
 
  I've been using the istDS for about two years and today I noticed a little
  thingy in the flash attachment.  It looks like it's designed to cover and
  protect the contacts.  That's pretty cool. This is my second DS, and I
  don't recall this protection cover being on the first camera.  Is this a
  standard item, or maybe an optional piece that was installed by the
  original owner of my second camera, which I bought used?  
 
  
 
  Standard fitment in most new cameras of quality.  Even my Zenits had one.  
  The one for the Z1-p was a most bizarre shape, due to the location of the 
  shoe.  The DL/2 has cutouts on the locating rails (in fact, on one side the 
  rail is almost completely missing) to save a farthing's worth of plastic.  
  I think you can get a Leica one made in precious metal and set with 
  gemstones.  It's an optional extra on the Paris Hilton Sex Tape 
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Re: PESO - old car but fresh air

2007-03-28 Thread Bruce Dayton
Rust aplenty, but no, I have never seen something like this.  Made me
chuckle.

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Wednesday, March 28, 2007, 4:40:02 AM, you wrote:

AR Hi

AR been very busy at work lately so little time to post images.  Anyway,
AR this is my latest PESO
AR http://www.pbase.com/kiwibiologist/image/76297366 taken in the carpark
AR at work.

AR Not a very carefully constructed picture but one I thought you guys in
AR the North might like.  This pic says two things about New Zealand:
AR 1.  We hang onto our cars for a long time - this looks to be about a
AR 20 year old car (Ford Laser aka Mazda 323)
AR 2.  The air is pretty clean and we don't use salt on the roads.  Not
AR sure that you would get lichens to grow in most of the Northern
AR Hemisphere - or perhaps you do?  Let's see your lichenmost car shots!

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Re: Opinions of DA 40?

2007-03-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/28/2007 8:10:48 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 3/29/07, P. J. Alling  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I tend to use the 43ltd. for the  same purpose on the *ist-D/Ds.

I use the FA 50mm f1.4.

Sometimes  that f1.4 aperture is the difference between getting the
shot and getting a  blurry mess.

Cheers,

Dave

===
Well, that is an  option, too. Thanks, Dave. Yup, that is why I want a fast 
one, because often  people shots are in low light (indoors).

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RE: A disastrous farewell to film.

2007-03-28 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/03/28 Wed PM 01:28:59 GMT
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: A disastrous farewell to film.
 
 I'm sorry for you Peter but wonder what kind of insurance would cover such
 an accident.
 At least here in Switzerland there exists no insurance for that since it was
 your own camera equipment and no third party was involved.
 Greetings
 Markus

It is unlike the Gnomes to miss an opportunity like that.

 
 
  
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
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 Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 12:33 PM
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 Subject: A disastrous farewell to film. 
 
 Yesterday was sunny and springlike in Scotland, so I decided to burn up 
 some of my last rolls of Velvia. I had some film in my PZ-1 and an LX 
 with a partly used roll in it, so I packed a bag and headed into the hills.
 
 There is a lovely glade with photogenic waterfall near us and I set up 
 the tripod at the top to take some shots. The PZ-1 was loaded with some 
 400 ASA stuff and I snapped a few shots with that ahead of doing some 
 slow speed shots of the water. I was about to reload the PZ-1 with 
 Velvia when I decided that I'd rather use the slow exposure settings of 
 the LX, so put the PZ-1 down, opened the LX back and stared blankly at 
 the half finished roll of Velvia that was already in it. Doh!!
 
 I reloaded the LX, set up the tripod, put my F28mm f/2.8 on it and 
 started shooting. I then decided I wanted to go a little wider, so went 
 back to the bag and picked up the FA* 24mm f/2. I walked back to the 
 tripod, slipped, kicked the tripod with LX and lens attached towards the 
 waterfall, made a despairing grab for the assemblage and only succeeded 
 in sending the 24mm after it.
 
 Trying not to cry, I looked down and saw that both lends and tripod / 
 body / lens were stuck against rocks in the water, so I waded out across 
 the slippery rocks above the waterfall and managed to retrieve all the kit.
 
 By this stage my appetite for photography had vanished, so I went home, 
 put the soaking bits on the central heating boiler to dry out and went 
 to read my insurance policy.
 
 I've just looked at the kit and the damage report isn't as bad as I 
 thought. The LX looks fine, and the shutter is working in both manual 
 and electronic modes, and although I got nothing out of the meter this 
 morning, much to my amazement it seems to be working perfectly now. The 
 finder is still a bit misty inside, and I need to check the alignment, 
 but this 25 year old body seems to have survived a 20 foot fall plus 
 partial immersion in a mountain stream for 5 minutes very well.
 
 Even more amazingly, the 28mm also appears to have escaped unscathed! I 
 put it on the PZ-1 this morning and it stopped down and autofocused 
 perfectly. No damage to any glass either.
 
 The 24mm is slightly less well off. Mechanically and optically still 
 perfect, stops down OK, but autofocus is not functioning and my istDL 
 can't get any sense out of it in terms of aperture readings etc.
 
 My initial despair has receded somewhat, and it seems that all the 
 insurance company has to do is cough up for a repair job on the 24mm.
 
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Re: Anyone a member of NAPP?

2007-03-28 Thread David J Brooks
Is the maghazine available up here in stores Wendy, or do yoiu know.

Dave

On 3/28/07, wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I used to be a member, but I let it lapse in January.
 I liked the magazines very much but hardly ever had time to view the
 tutorials on the site. Now I only have dial-up at home I probably
 wouldn't have the patience to sit and look at the videos. Member
 benefits were less for me, not living in the US. I would have like to
 take advantage of the free shipping from BH :-)

 Wendy

 On 3/27/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  National Association of Photoshop Professionals  -- they are having a 
  seminar
  in SF next month I might go to. I don't need to be  a member for that.
 
  But I also notice on their web page that they have PS  TV with flash or
  something videos that have little lessons and/or tips and  tricks. I am 
  getting
  more and more into studying PS (with a book), and I wonder  if anyone is a 
  member
  and/or has seen their TV thingees.
 
  In other words,  have you gotten anything out of being a member? And if not 
  a
  member, but you've  used their site, have you gotten anything out of that?
 
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Re: Human bone? 800x533-IMGP8963.jpg (JPEG Image, 800x533 pixels)

2007-03-28 Thread David Savage
On 3/28/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 28/3/07, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

 I see a small red fibre. Get it to trace.

 LOL

 Yea, better dust for eptheel...epithleeli...epiltheel...oh hell. Fingerprints.


Epi-thing-a-me-bobs is dust, ie skin cells

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Re: A disastrous farewell to film.

2007-03-28 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Markus Maurer
Subject: RE: A disastrous farewell to film.


 I'm sorry for you Peter but wonder what kind of insurance would cover such
 an accident.
 At least here in Switzerland there exists no insurance for that since it 
 was
 your own camera equipment and no third party was involved.

Any all inclusive insurance plan should cover that sort of accident. 
Frankly, any plan that doesn't isn't worth buying.

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Re: Opinions of DA 40?

2007-03-28 Thread David J Brooks
On 3/28/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 3/29/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I tend to use the 43ltd. for the same purpose on the *ist-D/Ds.

 I use the FA 50mm f1.4.

 Sometimes that f1.4 aperture is the difference between getting the
 shot and getting a blurry mess.

I'll pass that on the Frank.

vbg

Dave B

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Re: PESO:A24mm+K10D tests

2007-03-28 Thread David Savage
I left a pleasant 23 degree C office and stepped out into a 46 degree
C furnace where I spotted this flower:

http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_003.htm

I wasn't worried about the camera, I was willing my ride home to hurry up :-)

Cheers,

Dave

On 3/28/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can't remember _ever_ taking a camera to a warmer outdoors in the daytime.  
 8-)
 
  From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2007/03/28 Wed AM 10:56:33 GMT
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Subject: Re: PESO:A24mm+K10D tests
 
  I've frequently taken cameras and lenses from a dry air conditioned
  house into a steamy 95 degree F garden. Yes, the front element fogs
  up. I just let the camera rest until the fog clears before shooting.
  Never saw any evidence of lasting damage.
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Re: Pentax Gallery Strangeness

2007-03-28 Thread Jack Davis
There may have been a reason, Marnie, but there was never an excuse for
it. 8~O

Jack
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 In a message dated 3/28/2007 6:13:09 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
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 I agree. Seems they go for  the highly juiced. I've shamefully found
 myself nudging the hue/saturation  slider, ever so slightly, while
 questioning my moral discipline.  8-/
 
 Jack 
 
 
 No different, I am sure that many  photographers did for years to
 sell to 
 magazines. I mean, there was a reason for  Velvia, you know.
 
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Re: Opinions of DA 40?

2007-03-28 Thread William Robb

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Subject: Opinions of DA 40?


Excellent little optic, but it is VERY small and quite slow.

Heres a shot I took with mine:
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/reuben.html

Exif data is intact on the file, and hopefully, I spelled gray correctly in 
the coding.

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Re: A disastrous farewell to film.

2007-03-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
At least you didn't break a leg ... a pain in the wallet is easier to  
bear than a pain in the arse. :-)

I lost two Leica II cameras in similar incidents. One fell into the  
Pacific Ocean from 26,000 feet and the other tumbled down the Pyramid  
of the Sun in Mexico, breaking into bits as it went. Not a huge  
financial loss but an emotional one as those were the first Leica  
cameras I'd bought for myself...

It sounds like you'll be able to recover things, however. Have all of  
it serviced...

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Re: test

2007-03-28 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: test





 Why in Hell should I have to Press 1 for English?!!!

Because you live in a multicultural society which embraces and welcomes 
people from different cultures, and allows them to live within society as 
free and contributing members of your population.
It's one of the great things about America.

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Re: PESO:A24mm+K10D tests

2007-03-28 Thread Bruce Dayton
OK, that has the 'punch' the Pentax Gallery is looking for.  This
really jumps out at you.  Nice shot, BTW.

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Wednesday, March 28, 2007, 8:19:17 AM, you wrote:

DS I left a pleasant 23 degree C office and stepped out into a 46 degree
DS C furnace where I spotted this flower:

DS http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_003.htm

DS I wasn't worried about the camera, I was willing my ride home to hurry up 
:-)

DS Cheers,

DS Dave

DS On 3/28/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can't remember _ever_ taking a camera to a warmer outdoors in the daytime.  
 8-)
 
  From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2007/03/28 Wed AM 10:56:33 GMT
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Subject: Re: PESO:A24mm+K10D tests
 
  I've frequently taken cameras and lenses from a dry air conditioned
  house into a steamy 95 degree F garden. Yes, the front element fogs
  up. I just let the camera rest until the fog clears before shooting.
  Never saw any evidence of lasting damage.
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Re: The Thingy in the istDS

2007-03-28 Thread Tom C
I personally can't believe that Shel didn't know that cameras come with hot 
shot covers and that there's been this much conversation over something that 
must cost under .10 to manufacture.



Tom C.


From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: The Thingy in the istDS
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 06:49:23 -0500

Humm. I don't remember mine with them, unless they are still in the boxes.

Both istD cameras are now missing said cover though.:-)

Dave

On 3/27/07, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Nikons get them too, dunno about Canons.
 
  I tend to lose them the first time I use a flash.
 
  -Adam
 
 
  Thibouille wrote:
   Pretty standard on all Pentax camera I saw news which means
   P30T/Z1/SFX/istD/K10D at least ;)
  
   2007/3/28, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   I've been using the istDS for about two years and today I noticed a 
little
   thingy in the flash attachment.  It looks like it's designed to cover 
and
   protect the contacts.  That's pretty cool. This is my second DS, and 
I
   don't recall this protection cover being on the first camera.  Is 
this a
   standard item, or maybe an optional piece that was installed by the
   original owner of my second camera, which I bought used?
  
  
   Shel
  
  
  
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Re: Pentax Gallery Strangeness

2007-03-28 Thread Tom C
I've stopped submitting anything for the time being.


Tom C.



From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Strangeness
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 06:12:23 -0700 (PDT)

I agree. Seems they go for the highly juiced. I've shamefully found
myself nudging the hue/saturation slider, ever so slightly, while
questioning my moral discipline. 8-/

Jack
--- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I still can't quite decide when they are going to accept and reject.
  Many of mine that were well liked here were rejected and many that
  were not as well thought of have been accepted.
  What makes it really tricky is deciding what to submit - since you
  can't accurately guess what will be accepted, it is hard to figure
  out
  what to submit.
 
  The nearest I can come up with is that they are going for a
  Geographic
  type look.  So, if the shot is very strong, there is a better chance.
  If it is subtle, probably not.
 
  --
  Best regards,
  Bruce
 
 
  Tuesday, March 27, 2007, 6:18:22 PM, you wrote:
 
  WH I uploaded two more recent shots. The flower and the bee (Spring
  Bee) and
  WH the couple in the Corvette. Someone suggested the Corvette in the
  Lifestyles
  WH Gallery, which I did.
  WH It was rejected, but the flower/bee was accepted. Go figure. They
  must have
  WH a ton of flower/insect pics already!!  :-)
 
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Re: Pentax Gallery Strangeness

2007-03-28 Thread David J Brooks
I'm 4 for 5

Dave

On 3/28/07, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This may sound funny, but in some respects, it almost feels like there
 is a ratio - at least when you have submitted a fair number.  I'm
 running about 50% right now and that seems to hold steady.  I'm
 wondering if those who have submitted more than 20 are seeing anything
 like that.

 --
 Bruce


 Wednesday, March 28, 2007, 3:45:27 AM, you wrote:

 PS Yes, they're hard to predict, but they're overall mix looks good. In
 PS the hard to predict category, I submitted both of the trailer park
 PS images I showed here a month or so ago. The one where the woman looks
 PS somewhat posed in the lawn chair was accepted. That one was not well
 PS liked here. The shot where she is leaning on the railing of her porch
 PS and looking wistfully into the distance was rejected. That one was
 PS liked here. However, the former is a 6x7 image with lots of detail.
 PS The latter is a 35mm shot that has a more gentle look. Both were
 PS submitted as BW.
 PS Paul
 PS On Mar 27, 2007, at 10:38 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

  I still can't quite decide when they are going to accept and reject.
  Many of mine that were well liked here were rejected and many that
  were not as well thought of have been accepted.
  What makes it really tricky is deciding what to submit - since you
  can't accurately guess what will be accepted, it is hard to figure out
  what to submit.
 
  The nearest I can come up with is that they are going for a Geographic
  type look.  So, if the shot is very strong, there is a better chance.
  If it is subtle, probably not.
 
  --
  Best regards,
  Bruce
 
 
  Tuesday, March 27, 2007, 6:18:22 PM, you wrote:
 
  WH I uploaded two more recent shots. The flower and the bee
  (Spring Bee) and
  WH the couple in the Corvette. Someone suggested the Corvette in
  the Lifestyles
  WH Gallery, which I did.
  WH It was rejected, but the flower/bee was accepted. Go figure.
  They must have
  WH a ton of flower/insect pics already!!  :-)
 
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Re: Pentax Gallery Strangeness

2007-03-28 Thread Tom C
Yep, about 50%.

Tom C.




From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Strangeness
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 08:03:34 -0700

This may sound funny, but in some respects, it almost feels like there
is a ratio - at least when you have submitted a fair number.  I'm
running about 50% right now and that seems to hold steady.  I'm
wondering if those who have submitted more than 20 are seeing anything
like that.

--
Bruce


Wednesday, March 28, 2007, 3:45:27 AM, you wrote:

PS Yes, they're hard to predict, but they're overall mix looks good. In
PS the hard to predict category, I submitted both of the trailer park
PS images I showed here a month or so ago. The one where the woman looks
PS somewhat posed in the lawn chair was accepted. That one was not well
PS liked here. The shot where she is leaning on the railing of her porch
PS and looking wistfully into the distance was rejected. That one was
PS liked here. However, the former is a 6x7 image with lots of detail.
PS The latter is a 35mm shot that has a more gentle look. Both were
PS submitted as BW.
PS Paul
PS On Mar 27, 2007, at 10:38 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

  I still can't quite decide when they are going to accept and reject.
  Many of mine that were well liked here were rejected and many that
  were not as well thought of have been accepted.
  What makes it really tricky is deciding what to submit - since you
  can't accurately guess what will be accepted, it is hard to figure out
  what to submit.
 
  The nearest I can come up with is that they are going for a Geographic
  type look.  So, if the shot is very strong, there is a better chance.
  If it is subtle, probably not.
 
  --
  Best regards,
  Bruce
 
 
  Tuesday, March 27, 2007, 6:18:22 PM, you wrote:
 
  WH I uploaded two more recent shots. The flower and the bee
  (Spring Bee) and
  WH the couple in the Corvette. Someone suggested the Corvette in
  the Lifestyles
  WH Gallery, which I did.
  WH It was rejected, but the flower/bee was accepted. Go figure.
  They must have
  WH a ton of flower/insect pics already!!  :-)
 
  WH Walt
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: Opinions of DA 40?

2007-03-28 Thread J. C. O'Connell
yes a longer lens itself is more noticable than a
shorter lens itself, but it's nowhere near as noticeable
as a much closer photographer using a shorter lens!
jco

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In a message dated 3/28/2007 7:48:31 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I like long lenses for  candid unaware people street shots.
The further away you are the easier it is  to go
unnoticed. 40mm would be way too short for me, even on  APS format...
jco

=
On, the whole, I agree, but it's a  toss up. A longer lens is also a lot
more 
noticeable.

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Re: Opinions of DA 40?

2007-03-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mar 28, 2007, at 7:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well, I ordered the DA 50-200 from Adorama. It  was in stock when I  
 ordered,
 but they tell me that now it's out, and I'll have  to wait.  
 Probably that
 rebate thing.

 I'd also like a fast prime.  Something for stealth photography, as  
 when I
 want to do street photography,  i.e. unaware people shots.  
 Something shorter
 than a long zoom -- less  conspicuous. Guess one couldn't get much  
 shorter than
 the DA 40.

 Opinions? Focus good? Any focus fall off? CA? Whatever? What would  
 the  crop
 factor on this one be on digital? Come out to about 55mm?

 TIA,  Marnie aka Doe ;-)  Course if I do order it, it is bound to  
 go out of
 stock  just when I do.


I have no experience shooting with the DA40 Limited. I handled it at  
the store and found the focusing ring to be just a bit too thin for  
my taste. I suspect it would be fine with a real lens hood fitted  
(hate that little flat disk...) and presuming that you weren't going  
to do much manual focusing with it. From all reports and examples  
I've seen, it is quite sharp and produces very nice results. AF with  
it is supposedly amongst the very fastest available.

The focal length of this and the 43 Limited proves to be a long  
normal ... nice for people pictures and such in the middle range, or  
tighter compositions at a still comfortable distance.

Can't believe all the hooey about it not being fast enough for  
general use ... IMO, f/2.8 is just fine even for a lot of low light  
shooting, particularly with good, clean ISO 800 available. I remember  
doing available light street photography with ASA400 film and a Elmar  
35mm f/3.5 on a Leica IIc body ... no slow shutter speeds or flash  
available. Get real.

A faster lens is, of course, a nice thing in a pinch. The FA35/2 and  
FA43/1.9 are both excellent.

BTW: I've often found gear available through Amazon.com at the 18th  
Street Photo retailer that wasn't available elsewhere. They seem good  
folks ... One time, when the only example of a lens they had in stock  
had a crushed box, they called to apologize and ask if it was all  
right. I decided not to take it, waited for the next one, and the  
compensated by giving me an additional discount on another item I was  
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Re: The Thingy in the istDS

2007-03-28 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Tom C
Subject: Re: The Thingy in the istDS


I personally can't believe that Shel didn't know that cameras come with hot
 shot covers and that there's been this much conversation over something 
 that
 must cost under .10 to manufacture.



We had more converstion over the aperture simulator thingie, and apparently, 
it costs nothing

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Re: PESO:A24mm+K10D tests

2007-03-28 Thread David Savage
Thanks Bruce.

I didn't even consider this shot for the Pentax Gallery. I think I'll
give it a go and see what happens.

Cheers,

Dave

On 3/28/07, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OK, that has the 'punch' the Pentax Gallery is looking for.  This
 really jumps out at you.  Nice shot, BTW.

 --
 Bruce


 Wednesday, March 28, 2007, 8:19:17 AM, you wrote:

 DS I left a pleasant 23 degree C office and stepped out into a 46 degree
 DS C furnace where I spotted this flower:

 DS http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_003.htm

 DS I wasn't worried about the camera, I was willing my ride home to hurry up 
 :-)

 DS Cheers,

 DS Dave

 DS On 3/28/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Can't remember _ever_ taking a camera to a warmer outdoors in the daytime. 
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Re: The Thingy in the istDS

2007-03-28 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Believe what you will ... 

Shel

 [Original Message]
 From: Tom C 

 I personally can't believe that Shel didn't know that cameras come with
hot 
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Re: Opinions of DA 40?

2007-03-28 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
Subject: Re: Opinions of DA 40?



 AF with
 it is supposedly amongst the very fastest available.

It's AF speed is very quick, I don't formally test this stuff, but my 
feeling is it is the fastest focusing lens that I own.



 Can't believe all the hooey about it not being fast enough for
 general use ... IMO, f/2.8 is just fine even for a lot of low light
 shooting, particularly with good, clean ISO 800 available.

 A faster lens is, of course, a nice thing in a pinch. The FA35/2 and
 FA43/1.9 are both excellent.


I feel 2.8 is slow for a short prime, anything slower than f2 is a slow lens 
in this range. However, it is very small, and as maximum aperture increases, 
so does size. I would have been happier with a bit more size and a half stop 
faster. Both the 21 and 70 are nice sized lenses and have the extra half 
stop of speed.
The 40 is a very usable lens though.

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Re: PESO - Neglected

2007-03-28 Thread Kenneth Waller
I like what you've done but I wish the fade out surround wasn't so uniform.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: Peter McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PESO - Neglected


 Hi,

 I spent an afternoon in some private gardens at Mt Wilson recently.  On
 the way out I found this old fountain and grabbed a couple of so-so,
 blurry snaps.  My excuse is it was dark in there, the light was waning,
 and I on 2 knee trying to focus, hold everything still and not topple 
 over.

 I was sitting here tonight thinking I might as well toss them out, when
 I decided to make the one half-decent shot look as old as the fountain.
 I sorta like the end result, but I'd welcome constructive criticism.
 Here it is:

 http://www.pbase.com/petergly/image/76297420

 Thanks!

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Re: Opinions of DA 40?

2007-03-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Mar 28, 2007, at 8:59 AM, William Robb wrote:

 I feel 2.8 is slow for a short prime, anything slower than f2 is a  
 slow lens
 in this range. However, it is very small, and as maximum aperture  
 increases,
 so does size. I would have been happier with a bit more size and a  
 half stop
 faster. Both the 21 and 70 are nice sized lenses and have the extra  
 half
 stop of speed.
 The 40 is a very usable lens though.

The DA21 Limited is an f/3.2 lens, Bill.  :-)

Godfrey

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