Re: Nice message from NatGeo

[Adam Montoya]

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Tim Bray  wrote:
> Worth reading: http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/your-shot/manipulation
>

I have 4 words in response to all of that:  Great Pyramids of Giza.

-Adam

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Re: PDML statistics

[Dmitry Gromov]

Hi!

On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> Dmitry, according to my memory several years ago (probably around 2008 or
> so) there were a transition from gear conversational to picture taking
> character of the list. The number of PESOs, GESOs, PAWs, etc grew
> substantially. I reckon a simple search for the above words in the subject
> lines of the messages may give you indication and correct my estimate of the
> year as well.
>
> I should also point out that (although I've been unsubscribed for a while)
> it would seem that the list has become less prone to flame wars, which in
> fact is good. Here a joke about new Pentax flame resistant coatings may be
> in order, but I fail to come up with one.
>
> And yes, the likes of PentaxForums have their toll. I've been posting there
> as well, although it seems a general opinion of this community that
> PentaxForums is a bunch of ... <-- insert your own favorite non-praising
> term here.
>
> And finally, given that Pentax delivered over they years excellent DSLR,
> outstanding 645D camera and a number of other interesting bits and pieces,
> what would we have to talk about, really? :-)
>
> Cheers.
>
> P.S. I salute your determination to keep all your PDML correspondence for
> such a long period of time, even if by means of GMail account.
>

Yeah, I have more emails somewhere in outlook files starting 2000, I think :)

For me, all those emails became some kind of knowledge base - one of
the first places I search for answers on Pentax-related topics :)
Granted, there are other places with good information and other (even
bigger) list archives (like mail-archive.com), but that wasn't always
like that before.

I'll agree with your conclusion. Over the years I wasn't following all
the discussions of course and tell you truth, I did not read the list
much in later years, but when I did I always found some interesting
stuff here.
Yes, flame wars and big chunks of off-topic discussions was the reason
I stopped following list closely... But now most gear topics migrated
to other places and what's left was artistic core of Pentax
followers... And very interesting pictures to look at!

Hope, list will keep up for long years to come :)

BTW, I see many familiar names on Pentax Forums as well as DPReview forum...

Dmitry

>
> On 6/2/2012 00:54, Dmitry Gromov wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Was looking for PDML statistics recently (just out of plain curiosity)
>> and couldn't find much.
>> pdml.net only has files starting 2006 and I'm not sure how to get list
>> of all messages from mail-archive.
>>
>> Not sure where is my own archive from 2000 forward, but since I
>> switched to Gmail at the end of 2004, I quickly grabbed conversation
>> counts per year:
>>
>> 2005    7,831
>> 2006    7,381
>> 2007    6,247
>> 2008    5,009
>> 2009    5,249
>> 2010    5,295
>> 2011    4,841
>>
>> Again, this is not message count, but conversations as seen by Google.
>>
>> Thought, it may be interesting to see how other Pentax places on the
>> net vacuumed some people from this list. Or is it frustration of old
>> Pentaxians of not getting what they anted from the company?
>>
>> Dmitry
>>
>



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Re: PESO - The New Book

[Tim Bray]

Well taken! -T

On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 7:32 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
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> Hope this isn't a double post but when I checked the archives my post of this 
> morning didn't appear, so we'll try one more time.
>
> Spotted in front of a local bookshop:
>
>  http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/06/new-book.html?m=1
>
> Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
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RE: PESO: Vintage marbles

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Cat's eye were always my fave.

Love your photo. Vibrant colors!

cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: Tim Bray 
Sent: June 2, 2012 6/2/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: PESO: Vintage marbles

Round & shiny, what’s not to like? http://goo.gl/wKGsV

Context at http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/06/02/Otaku

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Re: PESO: Grandchild No. 1

[Boris Liberman]

She's lovely and I stand corrected about my perception of your age, Darren.

On 5/30/2012 00:01, Darren Addy wrote:

I don't believe I have yet introduced to the PDML my first grandchild, Hazel.
Hazel, this is the PDML.
PDML, this is Hazel:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/7297365268/in/photostream/lightbox/

Taken with the K-5 and the Sigma 28mm f1.8 last evening.




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Re: Tour O Somerville 2

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Agreed. Very cute. Missed your "original" PESO. Must go find that one...

Cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: Brian Walters 
Sent: June 2, 2012 6/2/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: Tour O Somerville 2


Quoting "Daniel J. Matyola" :

> I posted an earlier PESO about my home town's big bicycle races on
> Memorial Day.  Early in the morning, before the professionals and
> serious amateurs take to the streets, they have a family fun race:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15807080


That's cute.


>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15807079


So is that.

Looks like a fun time.


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Re: Rock Climber

[Boris Liberman]

Fascinating indeed. The perception of child's age when looked at close 
up stills and a video such as this appears to be rather different.


Please pass my regards to Grace.

Boris


On 5/29/2012 23:41, Paul Stenquist wrote:

A short video, shot with K-5 and DA* 16-50, and exported to youtube at 720P by 
iMovie.

The cameraman is a bit shaky, particularly when zooming, but the K-5 picture is 
nice. Grace, BTW, developed this rock climbing technique through trial and 
error.

http://youtu.be/UH1U4bXg_pE



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RE: OT: Grand Canyon Pano

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

That's gorgeous!

cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: Walter Hamler 
Sent: June 2, 2012 6/2/12
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Subject: OT: Grand Canyon Pano

Here is one pano that I put together.

http://walthamler.smugmug.com/Other/Grand-Canyon-North-Tim/23266223_N94xvd#!i=1876914005&k=423ZF6V&lb=1&s=A

Walt

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RE: peso midway

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

You caught the action, excitement and crowds of a midway! Not a place fir the 
faint of heart.

Wonderful, vibrant image. I can almost smell the hot dogs!

Cheers,
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Subject: peso midway

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15843472

k-5, DA*60-250, Iso 800, f6.3, 1/2500, 250mm

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Re: PDML statistics

[Boris Liberman]

Dmitry, according to my memory several years ago (probably around 2008 
or so) there were a transition from gear conversational to picture 
taking character of the list. The number of PESOs, GESOs, PAWs, etc grew 
substantially. I reckon a simple search for the above words in the 
subject lines of the messages may give you indication and correct my 
estimate of the year as well.


I should also point out that (although I've been unsubscribed for a 
while) it would seem that the list has become less prone to flame wars, 
which in fact is good. Here a joke about new Pentax flame resistant 
coatings may be in order, but I fail to come up with one.


And yes, the likes of PentaxForums have their toll. I've been posting 
there as well, although it seems a general opinion of this community 
that PentaxForums is a bunch of ... <-- insert your own favorite 
non-praising term here.


And finally, given that Pentax delivered over they years excellent DSLR, 
outstanding 645D camera and a number of other interesting bits and 
pieces, what would we have to talk about, really? :-)


Cheers.

P.S. I salute your determination to keep all your PDML correspondence 
for such a long period of time, even if by means of GMail account.


On 6/2/2012 00:54, Dmitry Gromov wrote:

Hi

Was looking for PDML statistics recently (just out of plain curiosity)
and couldn't find much.
pdml.net only has files starting 2006 and I'm not sure how to get list
of all messages from mail-archive.

Not sure where is my own archive from 2000 forward, but since I
switched to Gmail at the end of 2004, I quickly grabbed conversation
counts per year:

20057,831
20067,381
20076,247
20085,009
20095,249
20105,295
20114,841

Again, this is not message count, but conversations as seen by Google.

Thought, it may be interesting to see how other Pentax places on the
net vacuumed some people from this list. Or is it frustration of old
Pentaxians of not getting what they anted from the company?

Dmitry




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Re: OT PESO - Smoke

[Boris Liberman]

Oh, with you it is pretty easy. I've been hating you since a long time, 
Dave :-).


On 6/2/2012 08:30, David Savage wrote:

G'day All,

I was traveling through the wheatbelt a few weeks ago with some
friends when  we came across this scene:



It was getting close to planting time for the new wheat crops and the
farmers were burning off the stubble from last seasons crop.

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Dave




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Re: OT: Grand Canyon Pano

[Boris Liberman]

I cannot help but hate you, Walt.

On 6/3/2012 02:48, Walter Hamler wrote:

Here is one pano that I put together.

http://walthamler.smugmug.com/Other/Grand-Canyon-North-Tim/23266223_N94xvd#!i=1876914005&k=423ZF6V&lb=1&s=A

Walt




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Re: PESO - The New Book

[Jack Davis]

Sweet fatherly moment.
 
Jack


http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/jackdavis
http://www.photolightimages.com


- Original Message -
From: "knarftheria...@gmail.com" 
To: PDML@pdml.net
Cc: 
Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 7:32 PM
Subject: PESO - The New Book

Hope this isn't a double post but when I checked the archives my post of this 
morning didn't appear, so we'll try one more time.

Spotted in front of a local bookshop:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/06/new-book.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

Cheers,
frank 

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Re: PESO - The New Book

[Paul Stenquist]

Good handling of backlight and a nice moment.
Paul
On Jun 2, 2012, at 10:32 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hope this isn't a double post but when I checked the archives my post of this 
> morning didn't appear, so we'll try one more time.
> 
> Spotted in front of a local bookshop:
> 
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/06/new-book.html?m=1
> 
> Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.
> 
> Cheers,
> frank 
> 
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Re: OT: Grand Canyon Pano

[Tim Bray]

And why would that be OT?  It's good but would be much better on a
50-foot-wide screen, but I don’t have one.  -T

On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Walter Hamler  wrote:
> Here is one pano that I put together.
>
> http://walthamler.smugmug.com/Other/Grand-Canyon-North-Tim/23266223_N94xvd#!i=1876914005&k=423ZF6V&lb=1&s=A
>
> Walt
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Re: PESO - The New Book

[Christine Aguila]

Nothing like sharing a good book!  Nice moment, Frank!  Cheers, Christine 






On Jun 2, 2012, at 9:32 PM, "knarftheria...@gmail.com" 
 wrote:

> Hope this isn't a double post but when I checked the archives my post of this 
> morning didn't appear, so we'll try one more time.
> 
> Spotted in front of a local bookshop:
> 
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/06/new-book.html?m=1
> 
> Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.
> 
> Cheers,
> frank 
> 
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Re: peso midway

[Christine Aguila]

Good one Paul.  Really great energy in this one!  Cheers, Christine 





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> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15843472
> 
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peso midway

[Paul Stenquist]

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15843472

k-5, DA*60-250, Iso 800, f6.3, 1/2500, 250mm

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PESO - The New Book

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Hope this isn't a double post but when I checked the archives my post of this 
morning didn't appear, so we'll try one more time.

Spotted in front of a local bookshop:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/06/new-book.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

Cheers,
frank 

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Re: OT PESO - Smoke

[Darren Addy]

A stunning shot (!) that I think might be improved a bit by going to a
"widescreen ratio" (like 16:9) that crops out the slightly blown-out
top. Superb.

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Re: OT: Road Trip

[Bob Sullivan]

Walt,
Wow that's hitting the high spots!
How long did it take you?
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Walter Hamler  wrote:
> Two friends and I just returned from a road trip to Utah and
> surrounding area.  We went mostly as an excuse to see the annular
> solar eclipse, but it was a great opportunity to see some of the major
> national parks. We got most of them, North Rim, Grand Canyon, Bryce
> Canyon, Zion, Arches, Escalante, Canyonlands, and Dead Horse St. Park.
>  All were everything I expected and then some.
>
> I had wanted to pickup an extra body, the OMD5, but they wern't
> available locally.  The day after I returned I got a call that a
> chrome body was in. I bit!  Then I discovered that my copy of PS
> Elements 9 would not open the OMD raw files. Not willing to buy ver
> 10,  I opted for Aperture instead.  So far, so good, but with almost
> 2000 images to edit, it is proving to be tedious!
>
> Pics to follow in a few days, hopefully!
>
> Walt
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Re: OT PESO - Smoke

[Bob Sullivan]

Stan,
Didn't they tell the farmers around Beijing not to burn their fields
before the Olympics?
I've never seen them do it in Illinois or Iowa...but could be.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Stan Halpin  wrote:
> Bob - field burning is still common practice not too many hundred miles 
> upwind from you (Kansas, Missouri that I know of, probably Nebraska and Iowa 
> as well). I doubt if it contributes in any significant way to air pollution 
> there (or in Oz).
>
> stan
>
> On Jun 2, 2012, at 9:07 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>
>> Wow!  Great photo.  Arent you guys worried about air pollution?
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 12:30 AM, David Savage  wrote:
>>> G'day All,
>>>
>>> I was traveling through the wheatbelt a few weeks ago with some
>>> friends when  we came across this scene:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> It was getting close to planting time for the new wheat crops and the
>>> farmers were burning off the stubble from last seasons crop.
>>>
>
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Re: OT: Grand Canyon Pano

[Ann Sanfedele]

Enjoyed that pano a lot...

Only was on the NOrth Rim in late September in the 80's - all 4 of your 
photos show a lot more green than we saw in autumn.


Wishing I could have been there
ann


On 6/2/2012 19:48, Walter Hamler wrote:

Here is one pano that I put together.

http://walthamler.smugmug.com/Other/Grand-Canyon-North-Tim/23266223_N94xvd#!i=1876914005&k=423ZF6V&lb=1&s=A

Walt



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Re: GFM Update

[Ann Sanfedele]

On 6/2/2012 18:57, Mat Maessen wrote:

On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:

... Tomorrow brings the Doug&  Mark
show...


Don't forget the green laser pointer!

Sad to be missing it this year...

-Mat


ditto
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Re: OT: Grand Canyon Pano

[David Savage]

Sweet!

DS

On 3 June 2012 07:48, Walter Hamler  wrote:
> Here is one pano that I put together.
>
> http://walthamler.smugmug.com/Other/Grand-Canyon-North-Tim/23266223_N94xvd#!i=1876914005&k=423ZF6V&lb=1&s=A
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Re: OT: Grand Canyon Pano

[Paul Sorenson]

Walt

Are on a Mac or PC?  If you're running 64 bit Windows, you can only 
access 2 gig of ram for 32 bit software like PSE.  You can open that up 
to 4 gig with this patch tool...


http://www.ntcore.com/4gb_patch.php

After you run the patch tool, be sure to go to 
Edit->Preferences->Performance in PSE and make sure PSE is set to use 
100% of the available RAM.


I found a marked difference in performance after I used this patch.

If you're running 32-bit Windows this won't help...and if you're using a 
Mac, maybe one of the Mac guys can help.


-p

On 6/2/2012 7:11 PM, Walter Hamler wrote:

Thanks, Dan.  I probably shot a dozen or more pano's, but this is the
first one I have put together using PSE 9. It does pretty good but
keeps telling me I have limited RAM. I have 12 gig installed, so that
should not be a problem ?

Walt

On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:


Wow!  Fine job indeed.
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Re: OT: Grand Canyon Pano

[Paul Stenquist]

A dramatic photo. Well done.
Paul
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> 
> http://walthamler.smugmug.com/Other/Grand-Canyon-North-Tim/23266223_N94xvd#!i=1876914005&k=423ZF6V&lb=1&s=A
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Re: OT: Grand Canyon Pano

[Christine Aguila]

Very nice!  Cheers, Christine 



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> 
> http://walthamler.smugmug.com/Other/Grand-Canyon-North-Tim/23266223_N94xvd#!i=1876914005&k=423ZF6V&lb=1&s=A
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Re: GFM Update

[Christine Aguila]

>  Tomorrow brings the Doug & Mark
> show...
> 

Sorry I have to miss that!  Cheers, Christine 

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Re: OT: Grand Canyon Pano

[Walter Hamler]

Thanks, Dan.  I probably shot a dozen or more pano's, but this is the
first one I have put together using PSE 9. It does pretty good but
keeps telling me I have limited RAM. I have 12 gig installed, so that
should not be a problem ?

Walt

On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

> Wow!  Fine job indeed.
> Dan Matyola
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Re: OT: Grand Canyon Pano

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Wow!  Fine job indeed.
Dan Matyola
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On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Walter Hamler  wrote:
> Here is one pano that I put together.
>
> http://walthamler.smugmug.com/Other/Grand-Canyon-North-Tim/23266223_N94xvd#!i=1876914005&k=423ZF6V&lb=1&s=A
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OT: Grand Canyon Pano

[Walter Hamler]

Here is one pano that I put together.

http://walthamler.smugmug.com/Other/Grand-Canyon-North-Tim/23266223_N94xvd#!i=1876914005&k=423ZF6V&lb=1&s=A

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OT: Road Trip

[Walter Hamler]

Two friends and I just returned from a road trip to Utah and
surrounding area.  We went mostly as an excuse to see the annular
solar eclipse, but it was a great opportunity to see some of the major
national parks. We got most of them, North Rim, Grand Canyon, Bryce
Canyon, Zion, Arches, Escalante, Canyonlands, and Dead Horse St. Park.
 All were everything I expected and then some.

I had wanted to pickup an extra body, the OMD5, but they wern't
available locally.  The day after I returned I got a call that a
chrome body was in. I bit!  Then I discovered that my copy of PS
Elements 9 would not open the OMD raw files. Not willing to buy ver
10,  I opted for Aperture instead.  So far, so good, but with almost
2000 images to edit, it is proving to be tedious!

Pics to follow in a few days, hopefully!

Walt

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Re: GESO black and white art nudes, nsfw

[P. J. Alling]

I still don't have a flicker account...

On 6/2/2012 5:37 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

I had several suggestions that the photos would look better in black and white.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157630017391022/

On May 31, 2012, at 1:05 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



My friend wanted any pictures posted to flickr to be under "restricted access" so that 
only people willing to see "adult content" can see them. So I'm sorry if anyone wants to 
see them and doesn't have a flickr account.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157629987056554/

I posted them at full resolution, because I'm actively seeking feedback, 
primarily on technical issues right now, and you can't pixel peep low-rezzed 
photos.

Since feedback on a whole set is a lot of work so well, I'm picking this one, 
as my favorite, to specifically ask for critique on, but feel free to give me 
suggestions on any of them:

standard:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7309874796/

full resolution:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7309874796/sizes/o

K-5 DA*16-50 at 34mm ISO 80 1/160 f/8

They were all shot with the 16-50. I thought about using primes, but the 16-50 
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Re: GFM Update

[Mat Maessen]

On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
>... Tomorrow brings the Doug & Mark
> show...

Don't forget the green laser pointer!

Sad to be missing it this year...

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Re: GFM Update

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On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:

> We've just had dinner and people are chatting and waiting for the
> evening's presentations to begin.

I shot what I presume to be a similar gathering today:

http://i.imgur.com/Kzea7.jpg

Glad yinz'r having fun too.

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GFM Update

[Mark Roberts]

We've just had dinner and people are chatting and waiting for the
evening's presentations to begin. Pretty good weekend so far. I did my
usual Thursday night camp out on the mountain; I had some fairly good
shots at sunset but there was no sunrise to speak of. Still, it was a
great hike and a tough workout (because I got a late start and had to
really hustle).

Friday was sign-in day and the opening presentations for the weekend.
Doug and I gave a pep talk for the photo contest and then started
preparing for the rest of the annual ordeal :) The usual suspects from
the PDML are here, as well as a couple of lurkers. It's always great
to meet these friends face to face. Doesn't happen often enough.

This morning I led a short hike along the Profile Trail and we did
some shooting on one of the streams that comes off Grandfather
Mountain. I used a couple of rolls of slide film in the 67. Might have
some good stuff. I haven't even had a chance to check the digital
shots from this morning because we've been so busy with the logistics
of the photo contest. The good news is that Doug and I have half the
judging done already and it's only 6:30 on Saturday night. We'll
probably finish it all up this evening and have a non-panicked Sunday
morning. That would be a first. Tomorrow brings the Doug & Mark
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Re: PESO: Grandchild No. 1

[Brian Walters]

Quoting Darren Addy :


I don't believe I have yet introduced to the PDML my first grandchild, Hazel.
Hazel, this is the PDML.
PDML, this is Hazel:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/7297365268/in/photostream/lightbox/





G'day Hazel.  Nice to meet you.

Darren - Cute photo but introducing a child that young to the PDML  
could be considered child abuse..




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Re: PESO: Thai Poutine

[Brian Walters]

Quoting Tim Bray :


No, I?m not kidding; check it out at
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/05/31/-big/IMG_0067.jpg.html

Context: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/05/31/Thai-Poutine




Like Steve, I had to follow the 'poutine" link.  Certainly unknown  
downunder but Québec cuisine isn't big here.


Good photo and I find your description of the dish surprisingly  
appetising.  Not sure what that says about my taste buds.






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Re: GESO black and white art nudes, nsfw

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On Jun 2, 2012, at 2:38 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote:

> They do, indeed.

thanks

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Re: Tour O Somerville 2

[Brian Walters]

Quoting "Daniel J. Matyola" :


I posted an earlier PESO about my home town's big bicycle races on
Memorial Day.  Early in the morning, before the professionals and
serious amateurs take to the streets, they have a family fun race:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15807080



That's cute.




http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15807079



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Re: PESO: Vintage marbles

[Brian Walters]

Quoting Tim Bray :


Round & shiny, what?s not to like? http://goo.gl/wKGsV

Context at http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/06/02/Otaku




Ah - that brings back (very dim) memories.  I forget - are there any  
defined 'rules' for playing marbles?




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Re: Third Party Batteries

[Brian Walters]

Thanks, everyone for the feedback.  I thought about ordering via  
Amazon as I still have some credit there from a gift card last  
Christmas.  I got as far as checkout only to be told "we can't ship  
this product to your default destination".  Bummer.


Oh, well - there are other alternatives.


Cheers

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Quoting Igor Roshchin :


I bought the one by Zekos which is labeled to have much higher capacity
(2800 mAh) than the OEM from Pentax:
http://www.buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=ZELI90
http://www.amazon.com/Zeikos-ZE-LI90-Lithium-Battery-Replaces/dp/B002ZRPWPY/

It had been sold only by Buydig and Amazon, and doesn't seem to be
available anymore.
All other 3rd-party batteries that I've seen do not have this high
capacity. To be fair, - I haven't yet tried to measure/compare its true
capacity. I haven't had any problem over 1 year period since I bought
it. (I paid ~$17 for it.)

The battery that Buydig sells now is rated at 2100 mAh, and costs $14.50:
http://www.buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=VDPDLI90
The original Pentax battery is rated at 1860 mAh and costs $40-45.

Igor



On 6/2/2012 01:58, Brian Walters wrote:

I'm sure this has been discussed before but my memory isn't what it
used
to be

Is anyone using third party batteries in their K-7/K-5? The prices are
"considerably* lower than the Pentax branded ones but I don't want to
blow up my new camera.




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Re: OT PESO - Smoke

[Brian Walters]

Quoting David Savage :


G'day All,

I was traveling through the wheatbelt a few weeks ago with some
friends when  we came across this scene:



It was getting close to planting time for the new wheat crops and the
farmers were burning off the stubble from last seasons crop.




Very spectacular.  The fence, tree and the patch of light on the road  
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PESO: Vintage marbles

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Round & shiny, what’s not to like? http://goo.gl/wKGsV

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Re: GESO black and white art nudes, nsfw

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They do, indeed.

Bulent
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Re: GESO black and white art nudes, nsfw

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I had several suggestions that the photos would look better in black and white.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157630017391022/

On May 31, 2012, at 1:05 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

> 
> 
> My friend wanted any pictures posted to flickr to be under "restricted 
> access" so that only people willing to see "adult content" can see them. So 
> I'm sorry if anyone wants to see them and doesn't have a flickr account.  
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157629987056554/
> 
> I posted them at full resolution, because I'm actively seeking feedback, 
> primarily on technical issues right now, and you can't pixel peep low-rezzed 
> photos.  
> 
> Since feedback on a whole set is a lot of work so well, I'm picking this one, 
> as my favorite, to specifically ask for critique on, but feel free to give me 
> suggestions on any of them:
> 
> standard:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7309874796/
> 
> full resolution:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7309874796/sizes/o
> 
> K-5 DA*16-50 at 34mm ISO 80 1/160 f/8
> 
> They were all shot with the 16-50. I thought about using primes, but the 
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Re: Third Party Batteries

[Christine Nielsen]

I guess that's one rationale for buying new gear - to keep the
warranties fresh!  FWIW, the document I got back from CRIS says they
"repaired reflex mirror/shutter overrun problem"...

:)
-c

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Thanks for the note, Christine. I may send the k-5 in for service anyway. I 
> think it' at about 30,000 frames. But both of my 560 flashes are in Chandler 
> now, so I'm going to wait and see what that costs me.  Lots of frames on both 
> flashes as well, so I can count these snafus as normal service. But no 
> warranties.
> Paul
> On Jun 1, 2012, at 10:25 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote:
>
>> Argh, sorry to hear that, Paul.  I think I had over-charged by placing
>> an already charged battery back on the charger... whoops.  But, I
>> would keep an eye on it & not hesitate to send it in for repair -- my
>> camera started out with a few random issues like you describe, which
>> then quickly degenerated into full-on non-functionality.  I also
>> found, like you,  that a somewhat drained battery was less likely to
>> create problems.  I thought it was interesting that putting a
>> "problematic" battery - the one that was in the k-5 when it was
>> flopping -- into the k-7 did not produce the flops in that camera.
>> That's when the k-5 went in for service.  Luckily, it was a quick trip
>> to Arizona & back -- they knew exactly what the problem was, had seen
>> it before, I gather... Since then, I have used the same batteries in
>> the k-5 without issue.  Also, I don't worry too much about leaving the
>> batteries on the charger beyond the charging time... maybe I should...
>> but I haven't had any recurrence of the flops since getting it back
>> from service.
>>
>> Good luck --
>> :)
>> -c
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 8:31 PM, Paul Stenquist  
>> wrote:
>>> Happened to me as well. I charged both of my k-5 batteries -- grip and 
>>> camera -- last week. I usually charge just one, and then get the other next 
>>> time. I left each of them on the charger for a couple of hours after they 
>>> were fully charged. Right after charging the second battery, I tried  to 
>>> use the camera, I experienced the mirror-flop disorder. At least that's 
>>> what I assume it was. The camera kept making a clicking noise when the 
>>> shutter was pushed and wouldn't function. I switched off the trip, and the 
>>> camera started working intermittently, so I turned on preview and left it 
>>> on for a few minutes. After that it worked fin, and I was able to switch 
>>> the grip back on. I'm going to go back to charging only one battery at a 
>>> time and taking care not to overcharge. Or if I do charge both at once, 
>>> which I have to do for big jobs, I'm going to make sure they don' t spend 
>>> too much time on the charger, and I'm going to leave the grip turned off 
>>> until I've logged a few shots.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>> On Jun 1, 2012, at 7:31 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote:
>>>
 I have two third-party, and two pentax, batteries... they seem to work
 the same.

 Once upon a time, my k-5 had mirror-flop disorder... in which the
 mirror would randomly and repeatedly actuate, rendering picture-taking
 impossible.  (It was almost like blowing up!)  There is some
 speculation that could be initiated by an over-charged battery
 disturbing the electrical ecosystem in the camera... I have no idea.
 It was never a problem in the k-7.   But, I'd caution against
 over-charging the batteries...

 :)
 -c

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> to
> be
>
> Is anyone using third party batteries in their K-7/K-5?  The prices are
> "considerably* lower than the Pentax branded ones but I don't want to blow
> up my new camera.
>
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Re: External storage of raw files

[steve harley]

on 2012-06-02 5:28 Larry Colen wrote

What does one cost, with 6-8 TB of capacity?


if you shop sale prices, you can get a cheap 4-drive NAS enclosure for $2-300; 
whether these are performant models i don't know; drives are extra



I suspect that the solution that I'll end up with for working on multiple 
machines will be just to put my working files on their own external hard drive 
that I can easily transfer from machine to machine.


yes, sneakernet will probably give you the best performance; ideally you'd have 
some sort of drive dock(s) that would let you do FireWire 800 on the iMac and 
Thunderbolt on Zab's laptop; barring that you could use an enclosure like this, 
and maybe a Thunderbolt to eSATA interface will become available sometime soon:





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Re: Third Party Batteries

[Boris Liberman]

Igor, I am not talking about the declared power rating of the batteries. 
I am talking about the actual experience in terms of my regular shooting 
and the moment when I had to replace the battery. I never _measure_ 
these things. I just use my gear and (being immodest here) being pretty 
observant person, I notice things such as when I have to replace my 
camera batteries.


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On 6/2/2012 20:35, Igor Roshchin wrote:



I bought the one by Zekos which is labeled to have much higher capacity
(2800 mAh) than the OEM from Pentax:
http://www.buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=ZELI90
http://www.amazon.com/Zeikos-ZE-LI90-Lithium-Battery-Replaces/dp/B002ZRPWPY/

It had been sold only by Buydig and Amazon, and doesn't seem to be
available anymore.
All other 3rd-party batteries that I've seen do not have this high
capacity. To be fair, - I haven't yet tried to measure/compare its true
capacity. I haven't had any problem over 1 year period since I bought
it. (I paid ~$17 for it.)

The battery that Buydig sells now is rated at 2100 mAh, and costs $14.50:
http://www.buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=VDPDLI90
The original Pentax battery is rated at 1860 mAh and costs $40-45.

Igor



On 6/2/2012 01:58, Brian Walters wrote:

I'm sure this has been discussed before but my memory isn't what it
used
to be

Is anyone using third party batteries in their K-7/K-5? The prices are
"considerably* lower than the Pentax branded ones but I don't want to
blow up my new camera.






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Re: Third Party Batteries

[Igor Roshchin]

I bought the one by Zekos which is labeled to have much higher capacity 
(2800 mAh) than the OEM from Pentax:
http://www.buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=ZELI90
http://www.amazon.com/Zeikos-ZE-LI90-Lithium-Battery-Replaces/dp/B002ZRPWPY/

It had been sold only by Buydig and Amazon, and doesn't seem to be
available anymore.
All other 3rd-party batteries that I've seen do not have this high
capacity. To be fair, - I haven't yet tried to measure/compare its true
capacity. I haven't had any problem over 1 year period since I bought
it. (I paid ~$17 for it.)

The battery that Buydig sells now is rated at 2100 mAh, and costs $14.50:
http://www.buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=VDPDLI90
The original Pentax battery is rated at 1860 mAh and costs $40-45.

Igor



On 6/2/2012 01:58, Brian Walters wrote:
> I'm sure this has been discussed before but my memory isn't what it
> used
> to be
>
> Is anyone using third party batteries in their K-7/K-5? The prices are
> "considerably* lower than the Pentax branded ones but I don't want to
> blow up my new camera.
>

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Re: OT PESO - Smoke

[Tom C.]

> On Jun 2, 2012, at 1:30 AM, David Savage wrote:
>
>> G'day All,
>>
>> I was traveling through the wheatbelt a few weeks ago with some
>> friends when  we came across this scene:
>>
>> 
>>
>> It was getting close to planting time for the new wheat crops and the
>> farmers were burning off the stubble from last seasons crop.
>>
>> Enjoy.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Dave

Very nice!

Tom C.

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Re: OT: So, about that NHRA race . . .

[Walt Gilbert]

Fair point, Frank. :)

Had I not taken more of an interest in nature photography over the past 
couple of years, I'd probably go to the race since that's what 
originally inspired my interest in the pursuit. But, I've developed a 
real yen for the nature stuff and find it much more satisfying.


-- Walt

On 6/2/2012 11:05 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

10,000 horsepower top fuel dragsters screaming at 150 decibels down the quarter 
mile in less than 4.5 seconds - that's not memorable enough for you?

;-)

(seriously, I'd probably go on the trip, too)

cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: Walt Gilbert
Sent: June 2, 2012 6/2/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
Subject: Re: OT: So, about that NHRA race . . .

I suppose I could go to an NHRA race some other time, but this time I'd
be going for free.

I am leaning much more toward the trip out west, though. Just seems like
it'd be a much more memorable experience.

-- Walt

On 5/31/2012 7:24 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

There will be other races.  Why can't you go another time?

On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Walt Gilbert   wrote:

Well, I find myself on the horns of a dilemma.

Seems the trip to Montana I'd planned to take in late June/early July has
been pushed back. Now, it's scheduled for September 28 -- the exact same
date as the NHRA event. We'd be making a brief stop in the Black Hills of
South Dakota before heading on to Billings.

Two opportunities I may never get again, both getting underway on the exact
same day.

What to do? /What to do???/

-- Walt

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Re: June PUG - Last Call for 'Songlines'

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Neither did I.  
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> I didn't let that stop me.
>
> On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 12:00 AM, P. J. Alling
>  wrote:
>>
>> I just wish I had a good one to submit.
>>
>>
>> On 6/1/2012 5:50 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
>>>
>>> G'day all
>>>
>>> I'll be closing submissions on Sunday so get 'em in while you still can.
>>>
>>> So far we have 21 themed submissions and one Open Gallery submission.
>>>
>>>
>>> The details:
>>>
>>> Submit here:
>>>
>>> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
>>>
>>> Submission Guidelines here:
>>>
>>> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
>>>
>>>
>>> The main requirements are:
>>>
>>> * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 pixels on the longest side.
>>> * Max file size: 300k
>>> * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or
>>> lens used is Pentax.
>>> * If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure
>>> that the image is displayed correctly on line.
>>>
>>>
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Re: OT PESO - Smoke

[Tim Bray]

That is an amazing picture; congratulations! -T

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 10:30 PM, David Savage  wrote:
> G'day All,
>
> I was traveling through the wheatbelt a few weeks ago with some
> friends when  we came across this scene:
>
> 
>
> It was getting close to planting time for the new wheat crops and the
> farmers were burning off the stubble from last seasons crop.
>
> Enjoy.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
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Re: External storage of raw files

[Boris Liberman]

On 6/2/2012 01:53, Larry Colen wrote:

I've got several related issues that may have a single solution:

I've got about 4.5TB of raw PEFs on two drives.  Both drives are
starting to get full.

I'm very tempted to convert my library of raw files from PEF to DNG.


Larry, here is my setup, for whatever it is worth. Storage is a simple 
Unix box (some flavor of Fedora if I ain't mistaken) with gigabit 
network adapter. My main PC (whose configuration in terms of processing 
power is unimportant) has two network adapters - one (100 MB) for 
networking and another (1 GB) connects directly to the storage. All my 
RAW (PEF or DNG) files are on the storage while the catalog is on the 
main PC. The LR is set so that whenever it exits it prompts me to backup 
my catalog to the storage which I do every now and then according to 
taste. Another valid point here I think is that my main PC has SSD for 
its main disk, so it is pretty fast.


Presently I am at about 1/5th of your total volume or may be it is 
1/6th. I am having about 0.8 TB of RAW files and about 1 GB big catalog.


As a matter of further precaution I backup my network drive to a 
portable HDD.


Boris


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Re: Third Party Batteries

[Boris Liberman]

Drat. It has to be "I *had* two 3rd party batteries for K10D..."

On 6/2/2012 19:56, Boris Liberman wrote:

I have two 3rd party batteries for K10D. One was fine, the other was
like half the capacity. In order to have my gear work in a predictable
manner I chose not to deal with 3rd party batteries any more.

YMMVOC.

Boris


On 6/2/2012 01:58, Brian Walters wrote:

I'm sure this has been discussed before but my memory isn't what it used
to be

Is anyone using third party batteries in their K-7/K-5? The prices are
"considerably* lower than the Pentax branded ones but I don't want to
blow up my new camera.








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Re: Third Party Batteries

[Boris Liberman]

I have two 3rd party batteries for K10D. One was fine, the other was 
like half the capacity. In order to have my gear work in a predictable 
manner I chose not to deal with 3rd party batteries any more.


YMMVOC.

Boris


On 6/2/2012 01:58, Brian Walters wrote:

I'm sure this has been discussed before but my memory isn't what it used
to be

Is anyone using third party batteries in their K-7/K-5? The prices are
"considerably* lower than the Pentax branded ones but I don't want to
blow up my new camera.






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Re: OT PESO - Smoke

[Ann Sanfedele]

Dave , that's just too damn beautiful - why is it OT? not a Pentax?

great shot

ann

On 6/2/2012 01:30, David Savage wrote:

G'day All,

I was traveling through the wheatbelt a few weeks ago with some
friends when  we came across this scene:



It was getting close to planting time for the new wheat crops and the
farmers were burning off the stubble from last seasons crop.

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Dave



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Re: OT: So, about that NHRA race . . .

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

10,000 horsepower top fuel dragsters screaming at 150 decibels down the quarter 
mile in less than 4.5 seconds - that's not memorable enough for you?

;-)

(seriously, I'd probably go on the trip, too)

cheers,
frank 

"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: Walt Gilbert 
Sent: June 2, 2012 6/2/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: OT: So, about that NHRA race . . .

I suppose I could go to an NHRA race some other time, but this time I'd 
be going for free.

I am leaning much more toward the trip out west, though. Just seems like 
it'd be a much more memorable experience.

-- Walt

On 5/31/2012 7:24 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
> There will be other races.  Why can't you go another time?
>
> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Walt Gilbert  wrote:
>> Well, I find myself on the horns of a dilemma.
>>
>> Seems the trip to Montana I'd planned to take in late June/early July has
>> been pushed back. Now, it's scheduled for September 28 -- the exact same
>> date as the NHRA event. We'd be making a brief stop in the Black Hills of
>> South Dakota before heading on to Billings.
>>
>> Two opportunities I may never get again, both getting underway on the exact
>> same day.
>>
>> What to do? /What to do???/
>>
>> -- Walt
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RE: OT PESO - Smoke

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Perfect!

cheers,
frank

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Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: David Savage 
Sent: June 2, 2012 6/2/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: OT PESO - Smoke

G'day All,

I was traveling through the wheatbelt a few weeks ago with some
friends when  we came across this scene:



It was getting close to planting time for the new wheat crops and the
farmers were burning off the stubble from last seasons crop.

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: External storage of raw files

[Stan Halpin]

On Jun 1, 2012, at 6:53 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

> I've got several related issues that may have a single solution:
> 
> I've got about 4.5TB of raw PEFs on two drives.  Both drives are starting to 
> get full.
> 
> [snip]
> 
> I'm looking for suggestions as to general plan (for example, gigabit NAS), as 
> well as specifics (Todd's Network storage and fish market has the whizzbo 
> cottystack on sale for $200 this week) on how I should go about doing this.
> 
> 
> --
> Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est
> 

I have bought numerous portable and desktop drive systems from OWC. They seem 
like they know what they are doing (i.e., not just an online catalog attached 
to a mechanized warehouse) - I would call and ask them what they suggest.

One product they might suggest:
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/NewerTech/GM3Q5H40TB64/

stan
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Re: defringe

[Bruce Walker]

I'm impressed that anyone even noticed fringing in that shot. :-)

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Derby Chang  wrote:
>
> I'm highly impressed too.
>
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_06/12_06_defringe/01.htm
>
>
>
> On 31/05/2012 7:05 PM, Toine wrote:
>>
>> LR 4.1 is out. The defringe tool is new. A quick test:
>>
>> http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/221-defringe
>>
>> I'm impressed.
>>
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Re: OT: So, about that NHRA race . . .

[Walt Gilbert]

I suppose I could go to an NHRA race some other time, but this time I'd 
be going for free.


I am leaning much more toward the trip out west, though. Just seems like 
it'd be a much more memorable experience.


-- Walt

On 5/31/2012 7:24 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

There will be other races.  Why can't you go another time?

On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Walt Gilbert  wrote:

Well, I find myself on the horns of a dilemma.

Seems the trip to Montana I'd planned to take in late June/early July has
been pushed back. Now, it's scheduled for September 28 -- the exact same
date as the NHRA event. We'd be making a brief stop in the Black Hills of
South Dakota before heading on to Billings.

Two opportunities I may never get again, both getting underway on the exact
same day.

What to do? /What to do???/

-- Walt

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Re: External storage of raw files

[Doug Franklin]

On 2012-06-02 7:28, Larry Colen wrote:

1. Main computer: 4 drive RAID 10 array, two cold drives ready


the four drive RAID 10 array is in the computer? [...] iMac or a laptop.
I'd need an external system.


I'm on Windows PCs for my main systems, with big tower cases.  The 
laptop just carries photos back to the main system.  External "RAID 
lockers" out there, but they can get a bit expensive when you get over 
two-drive capacity.



What does one cost, with 6-8 TB of capacity?


The logic units run US$ 500 to US$ 1,000 for four-drive capacity units, 
the last time I looked, around Christmas.  Then you have to add the raw 
drives to it.  Six to eight TB seems to be running around another US$ 
500-600 if you get 2TB drives.  With the external units, performance may 
be high enough to use RAID 5 instead of RAID 10.  I haven't tried them.



I only wish those sorts of backup options had been economically available for 
film.


I guess you can't do film to film contact prints.


Someone could have, and a few probably did.  I could have if I'd done a 
little reading up on it and bought a small amount of equipment.  But the 
time and hassle were too much for me, and for most folks, I'd guess. 
Especially compared to now, where I can just scan the negs and back them 
up with my digital originals.



I suspect that the solution that I'll end up with for working on
multiple machines will be just to put my working files on their
own external hard drive that I can easily transfer from machine to
machine.


I use small (a hundred GB or so) externals as "in flight" backups and 
transportation back to the main archives.  It's about the only 
reasonable way to go when you're moving around.


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Re: OT PESO - Smoke

[Stan Halpin]

Bob - field burning is still common practice not too many hundred miles upwind 
from you (Kansas, Missouri that I know of, probably Nebraska and Iowa as well). 
I doubt if it contributes in any significant way to air pollution there (or in 
Oz).

stan

On Jun 2, 2012, at 9:07 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

> Wow!  Great photo.  Arent you guys worried about air pollution?
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 12:30 AM, David Savage  wrote:
>> G'day All,
>> 
>> I was traveling through the wheatbelt a few weeks ago with some
>> friends when  we came across this scene:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It was getting close to planting time for the new wheat crops and the
>> farmers were burning off the stubble from last seasons crop.
>> 


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Re: OT PESO - Smoke

[Stan Halpin]

Exceptional!

Even though the colors are a good portion of the impact, I think I would like 
to see this rendered in B&W. I suspect it will still be quite a dramatic shot.

stan

On Jun 2, 2012, at 1:30 AM, David Savage wrote:

> G'day All,
> 
> I was traveling through the wheatbelt a few weeks ago with some
> friends when  we came across this scene:
> 
> 
> 
> It was getting close to planting time for the new wheat crops and the
> farmers were burning off the stubble from last seasons crop.
> 
> Enjoy.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dave
> 

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Re: June PUG - Last Call for 'Songlines'

[Bruce Walker]

I didn't let that stop me.

On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 12:00 AM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
>
> I just wish I had a good one to submit.
>
>
> On 6/1/2012 5:50 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
>>
>> G'day all
>>
>> I'll be closing submissions on Sunday so get 'em in while you still can.
>>
>> So far we have 21 themed submissions and one Open Gallery submission.
>>
>>
>> The details:
>>
>> Submit here:
>>
>> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
>>
>> Submission Guidelines here:
>>
>> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
>>
>>
>> The main requirements are:
>>
>> * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 pixels on the longest side.
>> * Max file size: 300k
>> * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or
>> lens used is Pentax.
>> * If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure
>> that the image is displayed correctly on line.
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: OT PESO - Smoke

[Bob Sullivan]

Wow!  Great photo.  Arent you guys worried about air pollution?
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 12:30 AM, David Savage  wrote:
> G'day All,
>
> I was traveling through the wheatbelt a few weeks ago with some
> friends when  we came across this scene:
>
> 
>
> It was getting close to planting time for the new wheat crops and the
> farmers were burning off the stubble from last seasons crop.
>
> Enjoy.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
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Re: OT PESO - Smoke

[Jack Davis]

Well composed and rendered, David. 
Here in northern California, the rice stubble had, for years, been burned off. 
Air pollution became an issue and the practice was gradually ended. The 
previous year's stubble is now rotted away by winter rains in combination with 
some flooding of the fields.
 
Jack

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Subject: OT PESO - Smoke

G'day All,

I was traveling through the wheatbelt a few weeks ago with some
friends when  we came across this scene:



It was getting close to planting time for the new wheat crops and the
farmers were burning off the stubble from last seasons crop.

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: OT PESO - Smoke

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Strange, other-worldly image;  I love it!
Dan Matyola
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On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 1:30 AM, David Savage  wrote:
> G'day All,
>
> I was traveling through the wheatbelt a few weeks ago with some
> friends when  we came across this scene:
>
> 
>
> It was getting close to planting time for the new wheat crops and the
> farmers were burning off the stubble from last seasons crop.
>
> Enjoy.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
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Tour O Somerville 2

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I posted an earlier PESO about my home town's big bicycle races on
Memorial Day.  Early in the morning, before the professionals and
serious amateurs take to the streets, they have a family fun race:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15807080

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15807079

Comments are welsome

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Re: External storage of raw files

[Larry Colen]

On Jun 1, 2012, at 7:49 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:

> On 2012-06-01 18:53, Larry Colen wrote:
>> I've got several related issues that may have a single solution:
> 
> Rule #1: More copies are better.
> Rule #2: Make a copy, see rule #1.
> 
>> I've got about 4.5TB of raw PEFs on two drives.  Both drives are starting to 
>> get full.
> 
> And they're probably in the same physical location, too, aren't they? What 
> happens when the "house burns down"?

I was just addressing the working copy, not the backups.

Moving things to the new working system would allow me to retire my old working 
copies to backup status, and since they're full, they won't be in use and can 
go offsite. But, you're right my working copies, and my two backup copies of my 
last five years of photography are all currently in the same building, with the 
negatives and prints of my previous 35 years of photography, and I expect the 
same thing would happen to the drives as to the negatives.
> 
>> My gut feeling is that the right way to do this is some sort of external 
>> drive that I can share between the two machines for storing all the RAW 
>> files.  I suspect that I'll want some sort of box with gigabit ethernet on 
>> one end, and several sata drives on the other end.  My current drives can 
>> become backups.  As to the catalogs themselves, I'll just do something 
>> careful and clever so that I've got the necessary working catalog on 
>> whichever machine I'm using, and sync things up with import from catalog.
> 
> My plan (note: I develop software for a living, and have lots of computers 
> compared to most people, and have been doing it a long time, and have worked 
> for several startup companies on a shoestring, so have been screwed or 
> screwed myself many times):
> 
> 1. Main computer: 4 drive RAID 10 array, two cold drives ready

the four drive RAID 10 array is in the computer?This is not a feasible, or 
even possible, solution with an iMac or a laptop.  I'd need an external system. 
  

What does one cost, with 6-8 TB of capacity?



> 2. Media computer: 4 drive RAID 10 array, two cold drives ready
> 3. Three external drives
> 
> Both computers and one external are in my home.  The second external is 150 
> miles away, but one "version" (up to six months or so) behind.  The third 
> external is 250 miles away, but two "versions" (up to a year or so) behind.
> 
> I have additional "itinerant" externals that move back and forth between my 
> home and my office, 20 miles away and much sturdier.  These contain 
> "snapshots" between "versions".  Periodically, everything rotates.
> 
> I only wish those sorts of backup options had been economically available for 
> film.

I guess you can't do film to film contact prints.

I suspect that the solution that I'll end up with for working on multiple 
machines will be just to put my working files on their own external hard drive 
that I can easily transfer from machine to machine.


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Re: Left out again in third party lenses

[Underpaid N. Overpentaxed]

Seeing that it is a Holga pinhole, I take it the edges aren't deburred
for that artsy look?

2012/5/31 P. J. Alling :
> Holga now offers pinhole lenses for DSLRs, only Canon and Nikon mount,
> however.  I'm not sure how to feel about being dissed by Holga.
>
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> a lengthily search.
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Re: OT PESO - Smoke

[David Mann]

On Jun 2, 2012, at 5:30 PM, David Savage wrote:

> G'day All,
> 
> I was traveling through the wheatbelt a few weeks ago with some
> friends when  we came across this scene:
> 
> 
> 
> It was getting close to planting time for the new wheat crops and the
> farmers were burning off the stubble from last seasons crop.

That had better be destined for your wall.

Dave


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RE: External storage of raw files

[Bob W]

> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> David Mann
> 
> The reason I keep the second drive in the garage is to keep me covered
> in case the house burns down...
> 

don't worry, Dave, your house won't burn down.

The ground will swallow it first.

B


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Re: External storage of raw files

[David Mann]

On Jun 2, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:

> But then again, there is the prospect of off-line storage.
> 3T USB3 units are available for about $150 now.
> Just fill it up and put it in the safe.

Yep, big USB drives are great.  I have a pair of 2Tb USB2 drives for my photo 
files.  I keep one on the desk and the other in the garage.  Once a week I'll 
bring the garage one in and do a Time Machine sync to it, and copy across any 
updated photo files from the other drive.

The reason I keep the second drive in the garage is to keep me covered in case 
the house burns down...

I'm hoping that Apple makes it easier to run multiple Time Machine backups like 
this, without having to reconfigure it to use each drive in turn.  It's not a 
big deal but I do like to encourage good paranoid backup processes.

Dave


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Re: June PUG: Time's a-wasting

[David Mann]

On Jun 2, 2012, at 4:27 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

> Finally got my submission in. That *was* actually a bit of fun, as is
> my submission.

I snuck mine in yesterday, technically it was still May somewhere in the world 
at the time ;)

Hardest PUG ever, I think.  But definitely fun trying out various ideas.

Dave


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Re: OT PESO - Smoke

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On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 11:00 AM, David Savage  wrote:

> I was traveling through the wheatbelt a few weeks ago with some
> friends when  we came across this scene:
>
> 

lovely and very painterly...

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Re: PDML statistics

[Joseph McAllister]

I believe that as we old timers age we remember less and less about real 
photography. Don't know what I'd do if I took my Spotmatic out for a spin. I 
end up somewhere and not remember why I was…


On Jun 1, 2012, at 19:40 , Bob Sullivan wrote:

> Think Pentax Forum is a competitor who has vacuumed lots of
> speculation, hand wringing, technical minutia out of the list.  Plus
> maybe the old Pentaxians know all they need to about the cameras and
> lenses.  Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Dmitry Gromov  wrote:
>> Hi
>> 
>> Was looking for PDML statistics recently (just out of plain curiosity)
>> and couldn't find much.
>> pdml.net only has files starting 2006 and I'm not sure how to get list
>> of all messages from mail-archive.
>> 
>> Not sure where is my own archive from 2000 forward, but since I
>> switched to Gmail at the end of 2004, I quickly grabbed conversation
>> counts per year:
>> 
>> 20057,831
>> 20067,381
>> 20076,247
>> 20085,009
>> 20095,249
>> 20105,295
>> 20114,841
>> 
>> Again, this is not message count, but conversations as seen by Google.
>> 
>> Thought, it may be interesting to see how other Pentax places on the
>> net vacuumed some people from this list. Or is it frustration of old
>> Pentaxians of not getting what they anted from the company?
>> 
>> Dmitry
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