Re: Q 1.10 firmware

2012-10-28 Thread Jan van Wijk
On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 21:17:29 -0400 Steven Desjardins wrote:

The 15-45 2.8 for $300 is REALLY tempting.  I'd like to read some
reviews first, however.

I will get that one for sure, I have the 01 standard (43mm eq) and the fisheye, 
so I am really 
lacking some longer autofocus lens.The specs look really good with a constant 
2.8 and 
around 80-250mm range making it a nice 2-lens combo with the standard lens.
(Lowest price in Europe I have seen is 259 Euros, but not in stock yet)

Of course the new firmware makes using all the other K-mount glass a lot more 
practical as well. I played around a bit with the DA 35mm macro and it is 
really 
usable now (used to be OK, but a bit hard to focus and keep still).

With working SR on that now, I can use it handheld most of the time.
The 180mm equivalent is quite nice for flower/insect macro work.

Regards, JvW





--
Jan van Wijk;   http://www.dfsee.com/gallery


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Best 2x teleconvertor for smc pentax-a* 300/4

2012-10-28 Thread J.C. O'Connell
I want to get a good 2x TC for my pentax a* 300/4 lens.
Anybody know which model is the best (2x-L?) or maybe
a non pentax model? thanks in advance...

-
J.C.O'Connell
hifis...@gate.net
-


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO: The Long Green Line

2012-10-28 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Ann, Steve and Frank.  Here is the same scene just a bit later:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16543037

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 10:41 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 H I jsut saw the handicapped symbol duh

 On 10/27/2012 22:33, Steven Desjardins wrote:

 Her posture says urgency.

 On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 12:17 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ha! Love it! (but not what I expected at all)

 ;-)

 That's actually a very good shot. Well composed, nice use of perspective,
 and you caught that lady (other is a lady, no?) at just the right moment.
 The way she's grabbing at the door handle it looks like she ~really~ needs
 to go!

 Fun, but a really good shot as well.

 Cheers,
 frank

 --- Original Message ---

 From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
 Sent: October 26, 2012 10/26/12
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO: The Long Green Line

  From the Steeplechase Races last weekend:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16543036

 Comments and Criticisms are Appreciated.

 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
 follow the directions.
 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
 follow the directions.





 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
 follow the directions.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: OT: Iconic Images

2012-10-28 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is a valid point
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 6:23 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Iconic pictures of the WORLD, rather than iconic images of photography.

 From: knarftheriault


 These things are fun if for no other reason than that they stimulate
 discussion and controversy about images missed and ones that
 shouldn't be there.

 That being said I have to admit, many of the images would have made
 my short-list. But oh dear, not a single HCB? St. Ansel? Steichen?
 Maybe copyright issues?

 What surprises me most is that I see no attribution whatsoever. Is
 that because I'm looking at a mobile version on my Android?

 Interesting stuff. Thanks for posting.

 Cheers,
 frank

 --- Original Message ---

 From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
 Sent: October 27, 2012 10/27/12
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: OT: Iconic Images

 http://themetapicture.com/iconic-pictures-of-the-world/


 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


RE: OT: Kinda

2012-10-28 Thread John Sessoms

From: Jeffery Johnson

Okay I just did an experiment and it appears that when I go to reply to
someone I still have to change format to plain text for it to appear on
the list. If no one saw my thank yous for all the comments on the
gallery I posted I didn't realize they were not going through to the
list. Thank for the comments.

Now I know to change the formatting with each reply.

Jeffery


I don't know what email client you're using, but you should be able to 
set plain text as a default so you don't have to change it for every 
message.


--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


RE: stolen pic - it finally happened to me

2012-10-28 Thread John Sessoms

From: Ann Sanfedele

I just got this email...

Hi Ann,
It's David Siegel the husband of Andrea Siegel, a Scrabble player you
may remember from 30+ years ago. In Friday's Daily News there is a
picture that you took about 30 years ago of our daughter Caryn that
appeared in Time magazine, as I'm sure you recall. The name credited is
not yours.
Thought you might be interested.
Hope all is well.
Dave

Anyone have Friday's  NY Daily news??

Anyone know anyone on the city desk?

The photo was one I won honorable mention for in a Time mag contest
about the spirit of competition - George Plimpton was the judge.
It was in a special advertising section of TIme mag that was only sent
to subscribers.

who shall I call at the News?

ann


I'm not sure that counts as stolen.

What were the rules of the Time Magazine contest? You'll have to see
what rights you granted Time Magazine when you entered their contest.
The NY Daily News may have acquired the image lawfully.

I think about the best you can hope for is a correction notice from the
NY Daily News properly attributing the photo to you.

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: GESO: downtown on an autumn afternoon

2012-10-28 Thread David J Brooks
Nice set there. I like 5722 and 5734

Dave

On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 A small gallery of eight pics that will eventually go in my It Happened on 
 Woodward gallery. This was an experiment in shooting from a single spot -- 
 sitting on the stoop of a building. All shot within about 20 minutes. A bit 
 of fun on a day off.

 http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1042828
 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.



-- 
Documenting Life in Rural Ontario.
www.caughtinmotion.com
http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
York Region, Ontario, Canada

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: stolen pic - it finally happened to me

2012-10-28 Thread Ann Sanfedele

As it turns out, John, the photo wasn't mine.
They used a photo of her someone else took a few years later.

While I was on the phone with the city desk the father sent me
a scan of the article.  I guess his gray cells are in worse shape than mine.

The issue was not that they printed without permission, but that
someone else got the photo credit.

The city desk guy was immediately following up on it to find the article 
- they were definitely going to make it right, if it had been mine - 
which was heartening.


ann




On 10/28/2012 10:44, John Sessoms wrote:

From: Ann Sanfedele

I just got this email...

Hi Ann,
It's David Siegel the husband of Andrea Siegel, a Scrabble player you
may remember from 30+ years ago. In Friday's Daily News there is a
picture that you took about 30 years ago of our daughter Caryn that
appeared in Time magazine, as I'm sure you recall. The name credited is
not yours.
Thought you might be interested.
Hope all is well.
Dave

Anyone have Friday's  NY Daily news??

Anyone know anyone on the city desk?

The photo was one I won honorable mention for in a Time mag contest
about the spirit of competition - George Plimpton was the judge.
It was in a special advertising section of TIme mag that was only sent
to subscribers.

who shall I call at the News?

ann


I'm not sure that counts as stolen.

What were the rules of the Time Magazine contest? You'll have to see
what rights you granted Time Magazine when you entered their contest.
The NY Daily News may have acquired the image lawfully.

I think about the best you can hope for is a correction notice from the
NY Daily News properly attributing the photo to you.



--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Best 2x teleconvertor for smc pentax-a* 300/4

2012-10-28 Thread Jack Davis
I had a FA* 300 f/2.8 which had a recessed rear lens and, therefore, would 
accommodate the 1.4L T/C. I understood that the L was the better of the 
T/C's. (?)
 
Jack



- Original Message -
From: J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 5:22 AM
Subject: Best 2x teleconvertor for smc pentax-a* 300/4

I want to get a good 2x TC for my pentax a* 300/4 lens.
Anybody know which model is the best (2x-L?) or maybe
a non pentax model? thanks in advance...

-
J.C.O'Connell
hifis...@gate.net
-


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: stolen pic - it finally happened to me

2012-10-28 Thread Jack Davis
I've entered contests that limited my retained image rights only to photo 
credit, but allowed the contest sponsors freedom to otherwise use the image at 
their discretion.
Obviously, in this case your retained photo credit rights (?) were ignored.

Jack

- Original Message -
From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
To: pdml@pdml.net
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 7:44 AM
Subject: RE: stolen pic - it finally happened to me

From: Ann Sanfedele
 I just got this email...

 Hi Ann,
 It's David Siegel the husband of Andrea Siegel, a Scrabble player you
 may remember from 30+ years ago. In Friday's Daily News there is a
 picture that you took about 30 years ago of our daughter Caryn that
 appeared in Time magazine, as I'm sure you recall. The name credited is
 not yours.
 Thought you might be interested.
 Hope all is well.
 Dave

 Anyone have Friday's  NY Daily news??

 Anyone know anyone on the city desk?

 The photo was one I won honorable mention for in a Time mag contest
 about the spirit of competition - George Plimpton was the judge.
 It was in a special advertising section of TIme mag that was only sent
 to subscribers.

 who shall I call at the News?

 ann

I'm not sure that counts as stolen.

What were the rules of the Time Magazine contest? You'll have to see
what rights you granted Time Magazine when you entered their contest.
The NY Daily News may have acquired the image lawfully.

I think about the best you can hope for is a correction notice from the
NY Daily News properly attributing the photo to you.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: stolen pic - it finally happened to me

2012-10-28 Thread Jack Davis
Wish I'd read this post prior to sending my retard comments.
Hope your recovery is generous.

Jack

- Original Message -
From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 7:57 AM
Subject: Re: stolen pic - it finally happened to me

As it turns out, John, the photo wasn't mine.
They used a photo of her someone else took a few years later.

While I was on the phone with the city desk the father sent me
a scan of the article.  I guess his gray cells are in worse shape than mine.

The issue was not that they printed without permission, but that
someone else got the photo credit.

The city desk guy was immediately following up on it to find the article 
- they were definitely going to make it right, if it had been mine - 
which was heartening.

ann




On 10/28/2012 10:44, John Sessoms wrote:
 From: Ann Sanfedele
 I just got this email...

 Hi Ann,
 It's David Siegel the husband of Andrea Siegel, a Scrabble player you
 may remember from 30+ years ago. In Friday's Daily News there is a
 picture that you took about 30 years ago of our daughter Caryn that
 appeared in Time magazine, as I'm sure you recall. The name credited is
 not yours.
 Thought you might be interested.
 Hope all is well.
 Dave

 Anyone have Friday's  NY Daily news??

 Anyone know anyone on the city desk?

 The photo was one I won honorable mention for in a Time mag contest
 about the spirit of competition - George Plimpton was the judge.
 It was in a special advertising section of TIme mag that was only sent
 to subscribers.

 who shall I call at the News?

 ann

 I'm not sure that counts as stolen.

 What were the rules of the Time Magazine contest? You'll have to see
 what rights you granted Time Magazine when you entered their contest.
 The NY Daily News may have acquired the image lawfully.

 I think about the best you can hope for is a correction notice from the
 NY Daily News properly attributing the photo to you.


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: OT: Iconic Images

2012-10-28 Thread Ann Sanfedele

While they are iconic pictures of the world and world events they are
also iconic images of photography and specific photographers.
and should each have mentioned the photographer, even if they were owned 
by news services for whom the photographers were working for at the time.


Some of these are from Magnum and some from Black Star (I think) - they 
always credit the photographs..


The Migrant Mother is Walker Evans
I think the Yalta photo IS HCB but maybe I'm wrong.
The sailor kissing the nurse is Eisenstaedt
etc.. I've known some others in the past and forget now.

You would never see a set of iconic paintings shown without
the name of the artist, would you?

ann


On 10/28/2012 09:21, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

That is a valid point
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 6:23 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:


Iconic pictures of the WORLD, rather than iconic images of photography.

From: knarftheriault



These things are fun if for no other reason than that they stimulate
discussion and controversy about images missed and ones that
shouldn't be there.

That being said I have to admit, many of the images would have made
my short-list. But oh dear, not a single HCB? St. Ansel? Steichen?
Maybe copyright issues?

What surprises me most is that I see no attribution whatsoever. Is
that because I'm looking at a mobile version on my Android?

Interesting stuff. Thanks for posting.

Cheers,
frank

--- Original Message ---

From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
Sent: October 27, 2012 10/27/12
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: OT: Iconic Images

http://themetapicture.com/iconic-pictures-of-the-world/



--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.




--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: OT: Iconic Images

2012-10-28 Thread Paul Sorenson
Double check the Migrant Mother - I think that was Dorothea Lange.  Same 
group of photographers - pix for the FSA.


-p

On 10/28/2012 10:34 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

While they are iconic pictures of the world and world events they are
also iconic images of photography and specific photographers.
and should each have mentioned the photographer, even if they were owned
by news services for whom the photographers were working for at the time.

Some of these are from Magnum and some from Black Star (I think) - they
always credit the photographs..

The Migrant Mother is Walker Evans
I think the Yalta photo IS HCB but maybe I'm wrong.
The sailor kissing the nurse is Eisenstaedt
etc.. I've known some others in the past and forget now.

You would never see a set of iconic paintings shown without
the name of the artist, would you?

ann


On 10/28/2012 09:21, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

That is a valid point
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 6:23 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
wrote:


Iconic pictures of the WORLD, rather than iconic images of photography.

From: knarftheriault



These things are fun if for no other reason than that they stimulate
discussion and controversy about images missed and ones that
shouldn't be there.

That being said I have to admit, many of the images would have made
my short-list. But oh dear, not a single HCB? St. Ansel? Steichen?
Maybe copyright issues?

What surprises me most is that I see no attribution whatsoever. Is
that because I'm looking at a mobile version on my Android?

Interesting stuff. Thanks for posting.

Cheers,
frank

--- Original Message ---

From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
Sent: October 27, 2012 10/27/12
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: OT: Iconic Images

http://themetapicture.com/iconic-pictures-of-the-world/



--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above
and follow the directions.






--
Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old.

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: November PUG: Going....going...

2012-10-28 Thread Steven Desjardins
Well, I figured this was a good chance to try the newly added focus
peaking on the Q with an old MF lens.  The K 28 is now a fair
telephoto (154 eq.).  Also, the old lenses make the Q REALLY front
heavy.

On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
 Seven submissions so far.

 Time to take the zoom off the camera, rummage in the lens cabinet and dust
 of that old 50 1.4 (or whatever...)


 The details:

 Theme: Prime Time (non zoom photography).

 Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

 Submission Guidelines here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

 The main requirements are:

 * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 pixels on the longest side.
 * Max file size: 300k
 * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or
 lens used is Pentax.
 * If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure that
 the image is displayed correctly on line.


 --
 Cheers

 Brian

 ++
 Brian Walters
 Western Sydney Australia
 http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
 --
 Cheers

 Brian

 ++
 Brian Walters
 Western Sydney Australia
 http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/



 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
 follow the directions.



-- 
Steve Desjardins

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Best 2x teleconvertor for smc pentax-a* 300/4

2012-10-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
A2X-S or A1.4X-S. The L has a long front snout, and it won't work with the 
300/4.
Paul
On Oct 28, 2012, at 8:22 AM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote:

 I want to get a good 2x TC for my pentax a* 300/4 lens.
 Anybody know which model is the best (2x-L?) or maybe
 a non pentax model? thanks in advance...
 
 -
 J.C.O'Connell
 hifis...@gate.net
 -
 
 
 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Best 2x teleconvertor for smc pentax-a* 300/4

2012-10-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
The L is better for lenses with the recessed rear element. But the S is also a 
very good optic and is the only conveyer that will work with lenses that don't 
have a deeply recessed rear element. I believe the A 300-4 requires the S 
version, as does the A400-5.6.
Paul


On Oct 28, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I had a FA* 300 f/2.8 which had a recessed rear lens and, therefore, would 
 accommodate the 1.4L T/C. I understood that the L was the better of the 
 T/C's. (?)
  
 Jack
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
 Cc: 
 Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 5:22 AM
 Subject: Best 2x teleconvertor for smc pentax-a* 300/4
 
 I want to get a good 2x TC for my pentax a* 300/4 lens.
 Anybody know which model is the best (2x-L?) or maybe
 a non pentax model? thanks in advance...
 
 -
 J.C.O'Connell
 hifis...@gate.net
 -
 
 
 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.
 
 
 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Fw: Best 2x teleconvertor for smc pentax-a* 300/4

2012-10-28 Thread Jack Davis





- Forwarded Message -
From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 8:04 AM
Subject: Re: Best 2x teleconvertor for smc pentax-a* 300/4

I had a FA* 300 f/2.8 which had a recessed rear lens and, therefore, would 
accommodate the 1.4L T/C. I understood that the L was the better of the 
T/C's. (?)
 
Jack



- Original Message -
From: J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 5:22 AM
Subject: Best 2x teleconvertor for smc pentax-a* 300/4

I want to get a good 2x TC for my pentax a* 300/4 lens.
Anybody know which model is the best (2x-L?) or maybe
a non pentax model? thanks in advance...

-
J.C.O'Connell
hifis...@gate.net
-


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


RE: Best 2x teleconvertor for smc pentax-a* 300/4

2012-10-28 Thread J.C. O'Connell
I thought the S and L models stood for short and long lenses.

-
J.C.O'Connell
hifis...@gate.net
-

-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Jack Davis
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 1:26 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Fw: Best 2x teleconvertor for smc pentax-a* 300/4






- Forwarded Message -
From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 8:04 AM
Subject: Re: Best 2x teleconvertor for smc pentax-a* 300/4

I had a FA* 300 f/2.8 which had a recessed rear lens and, therefore, would
accommodate the 1.4L T/C. I understood that the L was the better of the
T/C's. (?)
 
Jack



- Original Message -
From: J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 5:22 AM
Subject: Best 2x teleconvertor for smc pentax-a* 300/4

I want to get a good 2x TC for my pentax a* 300/4 lens.
Anybody know which model is the best (2x-L?) or maybe
a non pentax model? thanks in advance...

-
J.C.O'Connell
hifis...@gate.net
-


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
follow the directions.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
follow the directions.


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Best 2x teleconvertor for smc pentax-a* 300/4

2012-10-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
That's true in general, but there are specific exceptions. Pentax used to have 
a compatibility chart on their website. I'm not positive about the 300/4, but i 
think it's an S, like the 400/5.6.

Paul
On Oct 28, 2012, at 3:10 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote:

 I thought the S and L models stood for short and long lenses.
 
 -
 J.C.O'Connell
 hifis...@gate.net
 -
 
 -Original Message-
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Jack Davis
 Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 1:26 PM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Fw: Best 2x teleconvertor for smc pentax-a* 300/4
 
 
 
 
 
 
 - Forwarded Message -
 From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Cc: 
 Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 8:04 AM
 Subject: Re: Best 2x teleconvertor for smc pentax-a* 300/4
 
 I had a FA* 300 f/2.8 which had a recessed rear lens and, therefore, would
 accommodate the 1.4L T/C. I understood that the L was the better of the
 T/C's. (?)
  
 Jack
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
 Cc: 
 Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 5:22 AM
 Subject: Best 2x teleconvertor for smc pentax-a* 300/4
 
 I want to get a good 2x TC for my pentax a* 300/4 lens.
 Anybody know which model is the best (2x-L?) or maybe
 a non pentax model? thanks in advance...
 
 -
 J.C.O'Connell
 hifis...@gate.net
 -
 
 
 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
 follow the directions.
 
 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
 follow the directions.
 
 
 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Best 2x teleconvertor for smc pentax-a* 300/4

2012-10-28 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
http://www.igorcamera.com/pentax.htm

Igor has a 1.4x-L available


Sincerely, 

Collin Brendemuehl 
He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose 
-- Jim Elliott 






-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Mechanical anti-aliasing?

2012-10-28 Thread Larry Colen
Pentaxforums posted a quick comparison between the K-5 and the K-5IIs
http://www.pentaxforums.com/news/pentax-k-5-iis-vs-k-5-sample-photos.html

Which reminded me of something I've been wondering about. Rather than doing 
anti-aliasing optically, wouldn't it be possible to have a special setting that 
would move the sensor a pixel diagonally, or possibly in a one pixel diameter 
circle over the course of the exposure? 
Also, does the nyquist rate depend on the size of the RGB sets? Or just on the 
individual sensor sites?  I'd think that it would be possible to increase the 
nyquist rate by analyzing the data from each sensor site.

--
Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est





-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Mechanical anti-aliasing?

2012-10-28 Thread David Parsons
So, you'd have sensor based IS trying to keep the sensor stable during
an exposure, and at the same time, moving the sensor to introduce AA?

What does 'mechanical AA do that the optical method doesn't do?  What
would be the advantage of it?

On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 Pentaxforums posted a quick comparison between the K-5 and the K-5IIs
 http://www.pentaxforums.com/news/pentax-k-5-iis-vs-k-5-sample-photos.html

 Which reminded me of something I've been wondering about. Rather than doing 
 anti-aliasing optically, wouldn't it be possible to have a special setting 
 that would move the sensor a pixel diagonally, or possibly in a one pixel 
 diameter circle over the course of the exposure?
 Also, does the nyquist rate depend on the size of the RGB sets? Or just on 
 the individual sensor sites?  I'd think that it would be possible to increase 
 the nyquist rate by analyzing the data from each sensor site.

 --
 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est





 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.



-- 
David Parsons Photography
http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com

Aloha Photographer Photoblog
http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Mechanical anti-aliasing?

2012-10-28 Thread Larry Colen

On Oct 28, 2012, at 12:48 PM, David Parsons wrote:

 So, you'd have sensor based IS trying to keep the sensor stable during
 an exposure, and at the same time, moving the sensor to introduce AA?
 
 What does 'mechanical AA do that the optical method doesn't do?  What
 would be the advantage of it?

The advantage is that most of the time you leave it off.  But, if you have 
something like the K5-IIs, without optical AA, and you are photographing 
something with a pattern, like fabric, you could turn it on.

And I'd implement it as an either/or with image stabilization, not a both at 
the same time.

--
Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est





-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


PAW147 - Another autumn picture

2012-10-28 Thread DagT
http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
OT equipment: Fujifilm x100, 23mm, 1/35s, f/2,0, ISO200.

DagT
http://www.thrane.name/


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO 2012 - 119 - GDG

2012-10-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Thank you, Dave, Ann and Frank! :-)


On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 3:34 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Excellent photo!

 You've captured the cold, clinical feel of a waiting/examination area, 
 complete with half-hearted attempt to cozy things up with a lonely little 
 toy.

 Brilliant!

 cheers,
 frank



 --- Original Message ---


   http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/the-waiting



-- 
Godfrey
  godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PAW147 - Another autumn picture

2012-10-28 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dag,
Nice idea, but I don't think it works.
You need more in focus leaves, and less out of focus trees/lawn.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 3:05 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote:
 http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
 OT equipment: Fujifilm x100, 23mm, 1/35s, f/2,0, ISO200.

 DagT
 http://www.thrane.name/


 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: OT: Iconic Images

2012-10-28 Thread John Sessoms

Understood.

My Iconic pictures of the WORLD response was to Frank's not a single 
HCB? St. Ansel? Steichen? - history represented by photographs; not a 
history of photography. As such, they should have been chronological and 
they should have been attributed.


Migrant Mother is by Dorothea Lange.

Trang Bang Napalm Attack has been censored.


From: Ann Sanfedele

While they are iconic pictures of the world and world events they are
also iconic images of photography and specific photographers.
and should each have mentioned the photographer, even if they were owned
by news services for whom the photographers were working for at the time.

Some of these are from Magnum and some from Black Star (I think) - they
always credit the photographs..

The Migrant Mother is Walker Evans
I think the Yalta photo IS HCB but maybe I'm wrong.
The sailor kissing the nurse is Eisenstaedt
etc.. I've known some others in the past and forget now.

You would never see a set of iconic paintings shown without
the name of the artist, would you?

ann


On 10/28/2012 09:21, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

That is a valid point
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 6:23 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:


Iconic pictures of the WORLD, rather than iconic images of photography.

From: knarftheriault



These things are fun if for no other reason than that they stimulate
discussion and controversy about images missed and ones that
shouldn't be there.

That being said I have to admit, many of the images would have made
my short-list. But oh dear, not a single HCB? St. Ansel? Steichen?
Maybe copyright issues?

What surprises me most is that I see no attribution whatsoever. Is
that because I'm looking at a mobile version on my Android?

Interesting stuff. Thanks for posting.

Cheers,
frank

--- Original Message ---

From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
Sent: October 27, 2012 10/27/12
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: OT: Iconic Images

http://themetapicture.com/iconic-pictures-of-the-world/


--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: OT: Word 2010 Page Numbering Help Needed

2012-10-28 Thread mike wilson
I tried for many,many hours to make this work some years ago. 
Eventually, I gave up and accepted that my TOC first line would read

Table of contents..1

AFAIK, MS never fixed it.
--
No fixed Adobe

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Mechanical anti-aliasing?

2012-10-28 Thread William Robb

On 28/10/2012 1:50 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


On Oct 28, 2012, at 12:48 PM, David Parsons wrote:


So, you'd have sensor based IS trying to keep the sensor stable during
an exposure, and at the same time, moving the sensor to introduce AA?

What does 'mechanical AA do that the optical method doesn't do?  What
would be the advantage of it?


The advantage is that most of the time you leave it off.  But, if you have 
something like the K5-IIs, without optical AA, and you are photographing 
something with a pattern, like fabric, you could turn it on.

And I'd implement it as an either/or with image stabilization, not a both at 
the same time.


Seems to me if the sensor moves in relation to the projected image 
during the exposure, you are going to just get a blurred image. This 
isn't quite what an AA filter does.



--

William Robb

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Best 2x teleconvertor for smc pentax-a* 300/4

2012-10-28 Thread kwaller

I've got the A-1.4X-S, A1.4 X-L  A2.0 X-L

I very seldom use the 2.0X-L  use the A-1.4X-S the most - on my 300mm f4.5 
FA. I've shot both X-L convertors on my 600 FA with very good results.


Both the X-L convertors will not fit my 300 f4.5 due to their extended 
length or 'nose' at the mounting flange- to-lens end which would contact the 
rear lens element  can't be connected.


I've never done any testing to see if the 1.4X-S is better or worse than the 
1.4X-L.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net

Subject: Best 2x teleconvertor for smc pentax-a* 300/4



I want to get a good 2x TC for my pentax a* 300/4 lens.
Anybody know which model is the best (2x-L?) or maybe
a non pentax model? thanks in advance...

-
J.C.O'Connell
hifis...@gate.net
-



--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Mechanical anti-aliasing?

2012-10-28 Thread Larry Colen

On Oct 28, 2012, at 3:26 PM, William Robb wrote:

 On 28/10/2012 1:50 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
 
 On Oct 28, 2012, at 12:48 PM, David Parsons wrote:
 
 So, you'd have sensor based IS trying to keep the sensor stable during
 an exposure, and at the same time, moving the sensor to introduce AA?
 
 What does 'mechanical AA do that the optical method doesn't do?  What
 would be the advantage of it?
 
 The advantage is that most of the time you leave it off.  But, if you have 
 something like the K5-IIs, without optical AA, and you are photographing 
 something with a pattern, like fabric, you could turn it on.
 
 And I'd implement it as an either/or with image stabilization, not a both at 
 the same time.
 
 Seems to me if the sensor moves in relation to the projected image during the 
 exposure, you are going to just get a blurred image. This isn't quite what an 
 AA filter does.

I thought that what an AA filter did was specifically to blur the image on the 
order of a pixel width so that no transition was narrower than a pixel. I.e. 
acting as a low pass filter to ensure that there are no patterns of a higher 
frequency than the sampling rate.

The trick would be to only blur the image on the order of a pixel.
 

--
Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est





-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Mechanical anti-aliasing?

2012-10-28 Thread Dario Bonazza

Larry Colen wrote:

I thought that what an AA filter did was specifically to blur the image on 
the
order of a pixel width so that no transition was narrower than a pixel. 
I.e.
acting as a low pass filter to ensure that there are no patterns of a 
higher

frequency than the sampling rate.

The trick would be to only blur the image on the order of a pixel.


Within the shutter speed.

Dario



--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Mechanical anti-aliasing?

2012-10-28 Thread William Robb

On 28/10/2012 4:39 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


On Oct 28, 2012, at 3:26 PM, William Robb wrote:


On 28/10/2012 1:50 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


On Oct 28, 2012, at 12:48 PM, David Parsons wrote:


So, you'd have sensor based IS trying to keep the sensor stable during
an exposure, and at the same time, moving the sensor to introduce AA?

What does 'mechanical AA do that the optical method doesn't do?  What
would be the advantage of it?


The advantage is that most of the time you leave it off.  But, if you have 
something like the K5-IIs, without optical AA, and you are photographing 
something with a pattern, like fabric, you could turn it on.

And I'd implement it as an either/or with image stabilization, not a both at 
the same time.


Seems to me if the sensor moves in relation to the projected image during the 
exposure, you are going to just get a blurred image. This isn't quite what an 
AA filter does.


I thought that what an AA filter did was specifically to blur the image on the 
order of a pixel width so that no transition was narrower than a pixel. I.e. 
acting as a low pass filter to ensure that there are no patterns of a higher 
frequency than the sampling rate.

The trick would be to only blur the image on the order of a pixel.




--



The blur you are describing by moving the sensor would look like camera 
shake. The blur from an AA filter is more akin to putting a soft focus 
filter on the lens (albeit a VERY mild one)


--

William Robb

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Mechanical anti-aliasing?

2012-10-28 Thread William Robb

On 28/10/2012 4:43 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote:

Larry Colen wrote:


I thought that what an AA filter did was specifically to blur the
image on the
order of a pixel width so that no transition was narrower than a
pixel. I.e.
acting as a low pass filter to ensure that there are no patterns of a
higher
frequency than the sampling rate.

The trick would be to only blur the image on the order of a pixel.


Within the shutter speed.


Good point.


--

William Robb

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Mechanical anti-aliasing?

2012-10-28 Thread Larry Colen

On Oct 28, 2012, at 3:52 PM, William Robb wrote:

 On 28/10/2012 4:43 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote:
 Larry Colen wrote:
 
 I thought that what an AA filter did was specifically to blur the
 image on the
 order of a pixel width so that no transition was narrower than a
 pixel. I.e.
 acting as a low pass filter to ensure that there are no patterns of a
 higher
 frequency than the sampling rate.
 
 The trick would be to only blur the image on the order of a pixel.
 
 Within the shutter speed.
 
 Good point.

Yes, there would probably be an ideal range of shutter speeds, and it would 
take careful work to adjust the rate.
if you are looking for constant blur it would have to move that distance over 
the span of time that the sensor is exposed. Also, it may depend on the period 
of time that the shutter is completely open (flash sync period), and of course 
it would not work with a flash.


 
 
 -- 
 
 William Robb
 
 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.

--
Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est





-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Mechanical anti-aliasing?

2012-10-28 Thread William Robb

On 28/10/2012 5:05 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


On Oct 28, 2012, at 3:52 PM, William Robb wrote:


On 28/10/2012 4:43 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote:

Larry Colen wrote:


I thought that what an AA filter did was specifically to blur the
image on the
order of a pixel width so that no transition was narrower than a
pixel. I.e.
acting as a low pass filter to ensure that there are no patterns of a
higher
frequency than the sampling rate.

The trick would be to only blur the image on the order of a pixel.


Within the shutter speed.


Good point.


Yes, there would probably be an ideal range of shutter speeds, and it would 
take careful work to adjust the rate.
if you are looking for constant blur it would have to move that distance over 
the span of time that the sensor is exposed. Also, it may depend on the period 
of time that the shutter is completely open (flash sync period), and of course 
it would not work with a flash.

You are still missing that what you are describing is camera shake, 
while what an AA filter does is more akin to a very mild soft focus filter.


--

William Robb

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PAW147 - Another autumn picture

2012-10-28 Thread Ann Sanfedele



On 10/28/2012 16:23, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Dag,
Nice idea, but I don't think it works.
You need more in focus leaves, and less out of focus trees/lawn.
Regards,  Bob S.


I agree - while I like the quirkiness of it, it was hard to look at

might not be the amount of sharp but the placement ?  Unusual
not to absolutely love your pix :-)

ann



On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 3:05 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote:

http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
OT equipment: Fujifilm x100, 23mm, 1/35s, f/2,0, ISO200.

DagT
http://www.thrane.name/


--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.




--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Mechanical anti-aliasing?

2012-10-28 Thread Larry Colen

On Oct 28, 2012, at 4:18 PM, William Robb wrote:
 
 You are still missing that what you are describing is camera shake, while 
 what an AA filter does is more akin to a very mild soft focus filter.

And the difference is that a soft focus filter works in two dimensions rather 
than one?

A soft focus filter gives more of a guassian distribution to a point signal 
rather than a linear one?

I see that the two would blur the signal differently, but I don't understand 
why mechanical wouldn't work.


--
Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est





-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: OT: Iconic Images

2012-10-28 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Point taken, John, but if I emphasize PICTURES instead of world...   ;-)

Besides, the WORLD includes nature, landscapes, cityscapes. Those things seem 
under-represented in this group.

That being said I agree with many of the choices they made. What irks me most 
is the lack of attribution. That is inexcusable especially for a photography 
site.

Good call on the blurring of Kim Phuc's genitals. Another inexcusable action on 
their part; her complete and utter nakedness is an essential part of the photo 
imho.

Cheers,
frank

--- Original Message ---

From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
Sent: October 28, 2012 10/28/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Iconic Images

Understood.

My Iconic pictures of the WORLD response was to Frank's not a single 
HCB? St. Ansel? Steichen? - history represented by photographs; not a 
history of photography. As such, they should have been chronological and 
they should have been attributed.

Migrant Mother is by Dorothea Lange.

Trang Bang Napalm Attack has been censored.


From: Ann Sanfedele
 While they are iconic pictures of the world and world events they are
 also iconic images of photography and specific photographers.
 and should each have mentioned the photographer, even if they were owned
 by news services for whom the photographers were working for at the time.

 Some of these are from Magnum and some from Black Star (I think) - they
 always credit the photographs..

 The Migrant Mother is Walker Evans
 I think the Yalta photo IS HCB but maybe I'm wrong.
 The sailor kissing the nurse is Eisenstaedt
 etc.. I've known some others in the past and forget now.

 You would never see a set of iconic paintings shown without
 the name of the artist, would you?

 ann


 On 10/28/2012 09:21, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 That is a valid point
 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


 On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 6:23 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Iconic pictures of the WORLD, rather than iconic images of photography.

 From: knarftheriault


 These things are fun if for no other reason than that they stimulate
 discussion and controversy about images missed and ones that
 shouldn't be there.

 That being said I have to admit, many of the images would have made
 my short-list. But oh dear, not a single HCB? St. Ansel? Steichen?
 Maybe copyright issues?

 What surprises me most is that I see no attribution whatsoever. Is
 that because I'm looking at a mobile version on my Android?

 Interesting stuff. Thanks for posting.

 Cheers,
 frank

 --- Original Message ---

 From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
 Sent: October 27, 2012 10/27/12
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: OT: Iconic Images

 http://themetapicture.com/iconic-pictures-of-the-world/

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.
-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


RE: GESO: downtown on an autumn afternoon

2012-10-28 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Nice set.

Cheers,
frank

--- Original Message ---

From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
Sent: October 27, 2012 10/27/12
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: GESO: downtown on an autumn afternoon

A small gallery of eight pics that will eventually go in my It Happened on 
Woodward gallery. This was an experiment in shooting from a single spot -- 
sitting on the stoop of a building. All shot within about 20 minutes. A bit of 
fun on a day off.

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1042828
-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.
-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


RE: PAW147 - Another autumn picture

2012-10-28 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Cool!

cheers,
frank

--- Original Message ---

From: DagT li...@thrane.name
Sent: October 28, 2012 10/28/12
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: PAW147 - Another autumn picture

http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
OT equipment: Fujifilm x100, 23mm, 1/35s, f/2,0, ISO200.

DagT
http://www.thrane.name/


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.
-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO - A Ginsu Knife of Hope

2012-10-28 Thread Steven Desjardins
That works really well.

On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 12:31 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks, Bruce!

 I titled it from a line in a Kids in the Hall skit in which Don McKellor 
 played a messenger. The narrator described him as (among other things) a 
 ginsu knife of hope.

 Only after I posted it on Facebook did I find out that it was Kota, a 
 Japanese messenger in town for about six months. He recently bought that 
 orange bike, so the bike didn't help me identify him.

 He liked the photo and wasn't offended by the silly title; in fact it's now 
 his profile pic on fb.

 I know I posted it here before but here's that KiH video:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orIZohIqJDUfeature=youtube_gdata_player

 He's delivering ~your~ package MISTER!

 ;-)

 Thanks again.

 Cheers,
 frank




 --- Original Message ---

 From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com
 Sent: October 26, 2012 10/26/12
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: PESO - A Ginsu Knife of Hope

 This is dizzyingly dynamic, Frank. Terrific!


 On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:22 PM, frank theriault
 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 The title is from a Kids in the Hall video.  I know I've been showing
 a lot of messenger shots lately, but I like this one.  Had to leave it
 in colour.  In fact, used curves quite a bit:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/10/a-ginsu-knife-of-hope.html

 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

 cheers,
 frank

 --
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and 
 follow the directions.



 --
 -bmw

 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.
 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.



-- 
Steve Desjardins

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Nasty Storm East Coast

2012-10-28 Thread jn289

I hope everyone on the East Coast remains OK.

Ann, I was calling just to how you are..Joe

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Mechanical anti-aliasing?

2012-10-28 Thread steve harley

on 2012-10-28 17:40 Larry Colen wrote

A soft focus filter gives more of a guassian distribution to a point signal 
rather than a linear one?


the mechanical AA could be moving the sensor in a circle of one pixel diameter 
(or something similar) at a rate of one revolution per shutter speed


an integer multiple of revolutions per shutter speed might have some advantage



--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


PESO - Grace's Audience

2012-10-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
Grace was talking to a few of our friends at the farmers market. Shot the 
audience this time:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16552188size=lg
-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


PESO - Shopper

2012-10-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
Couldn't pass her up. She had a look.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16552181

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Ralph Gibson - Point Light Gallery

2012-10-28 Thread Bruce Walker
Seeing in books is so much better than nothing, though. :-)

Thanks for the reference, Derby. Interesting body of work.


On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 4:50 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Having one of my doldrums, not feeling much in the mood for shooting (and
 there was plenty to shoot in Surry Hills today).

 So I took some time to visit the Ralph Gibson show at Point Light.
 http://pointlight.com.au/exhibitions

 Wonderful. All small (A4) size prints, matted but not framed, sitting on
 ledges, eye-level, around the gallery. so you can get right up close to look
 at them. No one but Gordon, the gallery owner, in the room, so it felt like
 a private showing. If I had a spare $4300, I would have bought the Mary
 Ellen Mark portrait on the spot.

 Seeing prints, so much better than seeing in books.

 Show closes in two weeks.

 D

 --

 der...@iinet.net.au
 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc


 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
 follow the directions.



-- 
-bmw

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Mechanical anti-aliasing?

2012-10-28 Thread Larry Colen

On Oct 28, 2012, at 5:15 PM, steve harley wrote:

 on 2012-10-28 17:40 Larry Colen wrote
 A soft focus filter gives more of a guassian distribution to a point signal 
 rather than a linear one?
 
 the mechanical AA could be moving the sensor in a circle of one pixel 
 diameter (or something similar) at a rate of one revolution per shutter speed
 
 an integer multiple of revolutions per shutter speed might have some advantage

What is the name of the pattern described by spirograph?  Or by a pendulum that 
is both swinging and rotating?

A pattern like that, at the maximum speed the sensor can handle for however 
long the sensor is open (or slightly longer) would probably work. That pattern 
would likely approximate the gaussian distribution.  At lower shutter speeds it 
would more completely approximate an even blur, or an even gaussian blur.  The 
question being, could it be moved that accurately, that quickly?

Whether the idea works or not, I'd wager it's patentable.


--
Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est





-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Best 2x teleconvertor for smc pentax-a* 300/4

2012-10-28 Thread P. J. Alling
Pictures of the aforesaid teleconverters, from the first stop anyone 
should make with a question abou all thngs Pentax K.


http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/teleconverters/A2X-L.html

http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/teleconverters/A2X-S.html


On 10/28/2012 2:10 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

I thought the S and L models stood for short and long lenses.

-
J.C.O'Connell
hifis...@gate.net
-

-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Jack Davis
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 1:26 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Fw: Best 2x teleconvertor for smc pentax-a* 300/4






- Forwarded Message -
From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Cc:
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 8:04 AM
Subject: Re: Best 2x teleconvertor for smc pentax-a* 300/4

I had a FA* 300 f/2.8 which had a recessed rear lens and, therefore, would
accommodate the 1.4L T/C. I understood that the L was the better of the
T/C's. (?)
  
Jack




- Original Message -
From: J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
Cc:
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 5:22 AM
Subject: Best 2x teleconvertor for smc pentax-a* 300/4

I want to get a good 2x TC for my pentax a* 300/4 lens.
Anybody know which model is the best (2x-L?) or maybe
a non pentax model? thanks in advance...

-
J.C.O'Connell
hifis...@gate.net
-





--
Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a 
lengthly search.


--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO - Shopper

2012-10-28 Thread jn289

Paul, I will agree with you on this one. Joe




Couldn't pass her up. She had a look.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16552181

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above 
and follow the directions.



--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO - A Ginsu Knife of Hope

2012-10-28 Thread jn289

Frank, This is very nice the way it is..Joe




The title is from a Kids in the Hall video.  I know I've been showing
a lot of messenger shots lately, but I like this one.  Had to leave it
in colour.  In fact, used curves quite a bit:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/10/a-ginsu-knife-of-hope.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
frank

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above 
and follow the directions.



--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO - Brendan

2012-10-28 Thread Bruce Walker
No green that I can see, Tim. I even examined it in Ps.

My Spydey sense is tingling for you to adjust. :-)

It did benefit from having the white level lifted up a few percent.


On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 10:30 PM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote:
 Good portrait.

 Either I need to screen-correct my mac or it has a bit of a green
 cast.  Anyone else see green, or do I need to break out the old Spyder
 thingie? -T

 On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 7:16 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Brendan is bike messenger who needed a portrait done. Saw my camera and 
 asked, so I obliged:

  http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/10/brendan.html?m=0

 Just an informal in the street portrait but I am pleased with it. Hope he 
 will be too.

 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

 Cheers,
 frank

 If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus
 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and 
 follow the directions.

 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.



-- 
-bmw

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO - Brendan

2012-10-28 Thread Bruce Walker
Nice. He should be pleased, Frank.


On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 10:16 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Brendan is bike messenger who needed a portrait done. Saw my camera and 
 asked, so I obliged:

  http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/10/brendan.html?m=0

 Just an informal in the street portrait but I am pleased with it. Hope he 
 will be too.

 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

 Cheers,
 frank

 If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus
 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.



-- 
-bmw

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Mechanical anti-aliasing?

2012-10-28 Thread William Robb

On 28/10/2012 5:40 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


On Oct 28, 2012, at 4:18 PM, William Robb wrote:



You are still missing that what you are describing is camera shake, while what 
an AA filter does is more akin to a very mild soft focus filter.


And the difference is that a soft focus filter works in two dimensions rather 
than one?

A soft focus filter gives more of a guassian distribution to a point signal 
rather than a linear one?

I see that the two would blur the signal differently, but I don't understand 
why mechanical wouldn't work.



Try taking a picture at a shutter speed just below what you can 
handhold, and then take the same picture with the camera on a tripod but 
with a very mild diffuser on the lens and try to make them equally sharp.
There is a reason why we try to keep cameras as steady as possible. 
IIRC, Falk over at Pentax forums discovered a minor flaw in the K7(?) 
where the camera shook very slightly all on it's own at certain speeds. 
I don't think the amount of blur was much more than a pixel or two, but 
it was noticeable, and it had a detrimental effect on sharpness in his 
opinion.



--

William Robb

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO - Grace's Audience

2012-10-28 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul,
Nice group shot.
They look charmed by Grace,
but so are we.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Grace was talking to a few of our friends at the farmers market. Shot the 
 audience this time:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16552188size=lg
 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO - Brendan

2012-10-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
You gave him some personality. Fun and friendly.
Paul
Paul
On Oct 28, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nice. He should be pleased, Frank.
 
 
 On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 10:16 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Brendan is bike messenger who needed a portrait done. Saw my camera and 
 asked, so I obliged:
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/10/brendan.html?m=0
 
 Just an informal in the street portrait but I am pleased with it. Hope he 
 will be too.
 
 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
 
 Cheers,
 frank
 
 If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus
 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and 
 follow the directions.
 
 
 
 -- 
 -bmw
 
 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Nasty Storm East Coast

2012-10-28 Thread Mark Roberts
jn289 wrote:

I hope everyone on the East Coast remains OK.

We're battening down the hatches here in Boston. We're not expected to
get hit as hard as NYC and other cities farther south but it's hard to
be sure how bad it's going to be. The college has cancelled classes
for tomorrow so I can stay home and man the fort, so to speak. Storm
surge is said to be the big threat: high tide at mid-day tomorrow
could be the worst. We're far enough inland that it shouldn't be a
factor for us, but people on the ocean could have big problems.
 
-- 
Mark Roberts - Photography  Multimedia
www.robertstech.com





-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Best 2x teleconvertor for smc pentax-a* 300/4

2012-10-28 Thread jn289
Pentax also has a 1.7 AF Convertor which is not bad. The 2x L will 
not work with the 300 A F4. You will have to use the 2x S. I have the 
300 A F4 and I will use the 2x S or the 1.7 AF. I also sometime use a 
Vivitar 2x macro convertor..The L convertors are nice to use with the 
300 mm F2.8 and the 200 mm F4.0 macroJoe




I want to get a good 2x TC for my pentax a* 300/4 lens.
Anybody know which model is the best (2x-L?) or maybe
a non pentax model? thanks in advance...

-
J.C.O'Connell
hifis...@gate.net
-


--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above 
and follow the directions.



--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Mechanical anti-aliasing?

2012-10-28 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Oct 28, 2012, at 17:45 , Larry Colen wrote:

 
 On Oct 28, 2012, at 5:15 PM, steve harley wrote:
 
 on 2012-10-28 17:40 Larry Colen wrote
 A soft focus filter gives more of a guassian distribution to a point signal 
 rather than a linear one?
 
 the mechanical AA could be moving the sensor in a circle of one pixel 
 diameter (or something similar) at a rate of one revolution per shutter speed
 
 an integer multiple of revolutions per shutter speed might have some 
 advantage
 
 What is the name of the pattern described by spirograph?  Or by a pendulum 
 that is both swinging and rotating?
 
 A pattern like that, at the maximum speed the sensor can handle for however 
 long the sensor is open (or slightly longer) would probably work. That 
 pattern would likely approximate the gaussian distribution.  At lower shutter 
 speeds it would more completely approximate an even blur, or an even gaussian 
 blur.  The question being, could it be moved that accurately, that quickly?
 
 Whether the idea works or not, I'd wager it's patentable.


Build it Larry, and they will come.


--
It's not that life is too short, it's that you're dead for so long..
— Anon

Joseph McAllister
pentax...@mac.com










-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Nasty Storm East Coast

2012-10-28 Thread jn289
Well, PA. NJ. and NY are expecting very bad weather. Earlier today I 
was up on the roof cleaning the rain gutters as we have a lot trees 
on our property and just hoping they remain standing. In the past 
years we lost a cherry tree and a weeping willow tree. ..Joe









jn289 wrote:


I hope everyone on the East Coast remains OK.


We're battening down the hatches here in Boston. We're not expected to
get hit as hard as NYC and other cities farther south but it's hard to
be sure how bad it's going to be. The college has cancelled classes
for tomorrow so I can stay home and man the fort, so to speak. Storm
surge is said to be the big threat: high tide at mid-day tomorrow
could be the worst. We're far enough inland that it shouldn't be a
factor for us, but people on the ocean could have big problems.

--
Mark Roberts - Photography  Multimedia
www.robertstech.com





--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above 
and follow the directions.



--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Mechanical anti-aliasing?

2012-10-28 Thread Bruce Walker
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote:

 On Oct 28, 2012, at 17:45 , Larry Colen wrote:

 Whether the idea works or not, I'd wager it's patentable.

 Build it Larry, and they will come.

Oh, yes!, he ejaculated.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Nasty Storm East Coast

2012-10-28 Thread David Parsons
I'm not expecting much from the actual rain, but storm surge and
streams/dams overtopping should be interesting.  Parts of my town tend
to flood, but I doubt that my house will get much.

I drive for work, so we'll see how many doctor's offices actually
cancel appointments.

On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Mark Roberts
postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 jn289 wrote:

I hope everyone on the East Coast remains OK.

 We're battening down the hatches here in Boston. We're not expected to
 get hit as hard as NYC and other cities farther south but it's hard to
 be sure how bad it's going to be. The college has cancelled classes
 for tomorrow so I can stay home and man the fort, so to speak. Storm
 surge is said to be the big threat: high tide at mid-day tomorrow
 could be the worst. We're far enough inland that it shouldn't be a
 factor for us, but people on the ocean could have big problems.

 --
 Mark Roberts - Photography  Multimedia
 www.robertstech.com





 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.



-- 
David Parsons Photography
http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com

Aloha Photographer Photoblog
http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Nasty Storm East Coast

2012-10-28 Thread Christine Nielsen
We are also in the Boston area, to the south, along the coast... all's
pretty quiet so far.  But, school has already been cancelled for
tomorrow... luckily, I was able to hide this information from the kids
until all their homework was done!

We did a pre-storm gutter clean-out, too.  Lots of trees around,
hoping this isn't the storm that brings one of them down on the house
or cars... Other than that, we've prepared by doing all the laundry 
running the vac - advice my mother gave me long ago.  Wouldn't want to
sit around a messy house with no clean clothes if the power goes out.
:)

Good luck to all, especially those right in Sandy's path!

:)
-c

On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 9:23 PM, jn289 jn...@verizon.net wrote:
 Well, PA. NJ. and NY are expecting very bad weather. Earlier today I was up
 on the roof cleaning the rain gutters as we have a lot trees on our property
 and just hoping they remain standing. In the past years we lost a cherry
 tree and a weeping willow tree. ..Joe








 jn289 wrote:

 I hope everyone on the East Coast remains OK.


 We're battening down the hatches here in Boston. We're not expected to
 get hit as hard as NYC and other cities farther south but it's hard to
 be sure how bad it's going to be. The college has cancelled classes
 for tomorrow so I can stay home and man the fort, so to speak. Storm
 surge is said to be the big threat: high tide at mid-day tomorrow
 could be the worst. We're far enough inland that it shouldn't be a
 factor for us, but people on the ocean could have big problems.

 --
 Mark Roberts - Photography  Multimedia
 www.robertstech.com





 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
 follow the directions.



 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
 follow the directions.



-- 
http://christinenielsen.com
http://www.facebook.com/ChristineNielsenPhotography

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO - Grace's Audience

2012-10-28 Thread Tim Bray
So sweet.

On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Grace was talking to a few of our friends at the farmers market. Shot the 
 audience this time:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16552188size=lg
 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Nasty Storm East Coast

2012-10-28 Thread Rick Womer
Philly is shut down as of midnight:  all transit stopped, all airlines' flights 
cancelled, schools and colleges and universities closed, state of emergency in 
effect allowing only essential travel.

I live a mile from work, so I plan to suit up in my GoreTex and trudge in.  If 
things are quiet and well-covered, I'll trudge home again.  Many of my 
colleagues live in the 'burbs, though, and I have often wound up covering for 
them in blizzards (precious few hurricanes, fortunately).

Rick

 
http://photo.net/photos/RickW


- Original Message -
From: Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: Nasty Storm East Coast

We are also in the Boston area, to the south, along the coast... all's
pretty quiet so far.  But, school has already been cancelled for
tomorrow... luckily, I was able to hide this information from the kids
until all their homework was done!

We did a pre-storm gutter clean-out, too.  Lots of trees around,
hoping this isn't the storm that brings one of them down on the house
or cars... Other than that, we've prepared by doing all the laundry 
running the vac - advice my mother gave me long ago.  Wouldn't want to
sit around a messy house with no clean clothes if the power goes out.
:)

Good luck to all, especially those right in Sandy's path!

:)
-c

On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 9:23 PM, jn289 jn...@verizon.net wrote:
 Well, PA. NJ. and NY are expecting very bad weather. Earlier today I was up
 on the roof cleaning the rain gutters as we have a lot trees on our property
 and just hoping they remain standing. In the past years we lost a cherry
 tree and a weeping willow tree. ..Joe








 jn289 wrote:

 I hope everyone on the East Coast remains OK.


 We're battening down the hatches here in Boston. We're not expected to
 get hit as hard as NYC and other cities farther south but it's hard to
 be sure how bad it's going to be. The college has cancelled classes
 for tomorrow so I can stay home and man the fort, so to speak. Storm
 surge is said to be the big threat: high tide at mid-day tomorrow
 could be the worst. We're far enough inland that it shouldn't be a
 factor for us, but people on the ocean could have big problems.

 --
 Mark Roberts - Photography  Multimedia
 www.robertstech.com





 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
 follow the directions.



 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
 follow the directions.



-- 
http://christinenielsen.com
http://www.facebook.com/ChristineNielsenPhotography

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Nasty Storm East Coast

2012-10-28 Thread Ann Sanfedele
I'm lucky -- certainly Manhattan is in the path, but I'm in a part of 
Manhattan is one of those places family who are in zone A would want to 
come to stay, if I had any such :-)


My best friend's son and his wife are in a building in lower Manhattan 
that has manditory evacuatlion but they are in a building that has a 
backup generator and are on the 4th floor and last I heard were not 
going to budge... last year they did and it fizzled.  unfortunately that 
attitude is being displayed a lot here.  A shame.


Crossing fingers I don't lose power... which is not as unlikely as I'd 
like it to be because of all the dug up streets around  here and recent

cable outages.  I certainly won't be going out tomorrow!  lots of debris
flying around is likely.

Wind whistling outside already.

now, back to Words with friends and storm watching tv

Guess I will have to apply myself to get Brian a PUG entry :-)

ann


On 10/28/2012 21:49, Christine Nielsen wrote:

We are also in the Boston area, to the south, along the coast... all's
pretty quiet so far.  But, school has already been cancelled for
tomorrow... luckily, I was able to hide this information from the kids
until all their homework was done!

We did a pre-storm gutter clean-out, too.  Lots of trees around,
hoping this isn't the storm that brings one of them down on the house
or cars... Other than that, we've prepared by doing all the laundry 
running the vac - advice my mother gave me long ago.  Wouldn't want to
sit around a messy house with no clean clothes if the power goes out.
:)

Good luck to all, especially those right in Sandy's path!

:)
-c

On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 9:23 PM, jn289 jn...@verizon.net wrote:

Well, PA. NJ. and NY are expecting very bad weather. Earlier today I was up
on the roof cleaning the rain gutters as we have a lot trees on our property
and just hoping they remain standing. In the past years we lost a cherry
tree and a weeping willow tree. ..Joe









jn289 wrote:


I hope everyone on the East Coast remains OK.



We're battening down the hatches here in Boston. We're not expected to
get hit as hard as NYC and other cities farther south but it's hard to
be sure how bad it's going to be. The college has cancelled classes
for tomorrow so I can stay home and man the fort, so to speak. Storm
surge is said to be the big threat: high tide at mid-day tomorrow
could be the worst. We're far enough inland that it shouldn't be a
factor for us, but people on the ocean could have big problems.

--
Mark Roberts - Photography  Multimedia
www.robertstech.com





--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
follow the directions.




--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
follow the directions.






--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Nasty Storm East Coast

2012-10-28 Thread Mark Roberts
David Parsons wrote:

I'm not expecting much from the actual rain, but storm surge and
streams/dams overtopping should be interesting.  Parts of my town tend
to flood, but I doubt that my house will get much.

I drive for work, so we'll see how many doctor's offices actually
cancel appointments.

Wouldn't you know it but Children's Hospital has the temerity to stay
open during all of this so Lisa will be going in to work tomorrow!
We're only a mile from the hospital so she walks in every day. Being a
veteran hiker she has the clothing and fortitude to do it in pretty
much any kind of weather. We'll see how much extra work she has to do
for colleagues who don't have the same toughness...
 
-- 
Mark Roberts - Photography  Multimedia
www.robertstech.com





-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


RE: PESO - Grace's Audience

2012-10-28 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Nice!

cheers,
frank

--- Original Message ---

From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
Sent: October 28, 2012 10/28/12
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - Grace's Audience

Grace was talking to a few of our friends at the farmers market. Shot the 
audience this time:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16552188size=lg
-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.
-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO - A Ginsu Knife of Hope

2012-10-28 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Thanks, Joe!

Thanks to all who looked and commented.

Cheers,
frank 


--- Original Message ---

From: jn289 jn...@verizon.net
Sent: October 28, 2012 10/28/12
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO - A Ginsu Knife of Hope

Frank, This is very nice the way it is..Joe



The title is from a Kids in the Hall video.  I know I've been showing
a lot of messenger shots lately, but I like this one.  Had to leave it
in colour.  In fact, used curves quite a bit:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/10/a-ginsu-knife-of-hope.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
frank

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above 
and follow the directions.


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.
-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO - Shopper

2012-10-28 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I love the colors and the Greta Garbo pose.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Couldn't pass her up. She had a look.
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16552181

 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: PESO - Brendan

2012-10-28 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Thanks, Bruce. In fact I talked to him last evening and he is pleased.

Thanks to all who took a look.

Cheers,
frank

--- Original Message ---

From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com
Sent: October 28, 2012 10/28/12
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO - Brendan

Nice. He should be pleased, Frank.


On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 10:16 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Brendan is bike messenger who needed a portrait done. Saw my camera and 
 asked, so I obliged:

  http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/10/brendan.html?m=0

 Just an informal in the street portrait but I am pleased with it. Hope he 
 will be too.

 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

 Cheers,
 frank

 If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus
 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.



-- 
-bmw

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.
-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


NEF or TIF

2012-10-28 Thread John Sessoms
Not OT - I'm scanning slides  negatives shot with Pentax, but Pentax 
didn't make a scanner AFAIK, so I had to settle for Nikon - Coolscan IV 
ED. I'm using my old computer that no longer has Photoshop installed to 
run the scanner and saving the scanned images to my NAS drive, where I 
can open them with Adobe Bridge.


Nikon Scan offers the choice of saving as NEF or TIF file formats. Once 
I get them into Adobe Bridge, I'll convert them into DNG, but what are 
the pros  cons of either of the formats the scanner offers.


I'm also thinking about getting VueScan. Does anyone know if it supports 
saving files directly as DNG?


--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Nasty Storm East Coast

2012-10-28 Thread Boris Liberman

Hey, guys from the East coast! Please be safe!

On 10/29/2012 2:14 AM, jn289 wrote:

I hope everyone on the East Coast remains OK.

Ann, I was calling just to how you are..Joe




--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: GESO: downtown on an autumn afternoon

2012-10-28 Thread Boris Liberman

On 10/27/2012 9:39 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

A small gallery of eight pics that will eventually go in my It
Happened on Woodward gallery. This was an experiment in shooting
from a single spot -- sitting on the stoop of a building. All shot
within about 20 minutes. A bit of fun on a day off.

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1042828




Paul, you're as steady as ever. Seems like you had really nice weather 
that day.


--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: OT - Samsung Reportedly Will Stop Sourcing Apple

2012-10-28 Thread Boris Liberman

Reply interspersed.

On 10/25/2012 3:33 AM, Tom C wrote:

From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com

I think that what's moral for individual human beings does not
necessarily apply to corporations. Specifically, I think that the so
called grey area is much broader for corporations than it is for you and me.



In theory that's correct. In practice it's wrong. I know it. You know
it. The CEO's know it. (I'm not implying you didn't) :)


Absolutely, Tom. I wasn't speaking specifically of Samsung-Apple series 
of trials all over the planet. It very well may be that Samsung did 
steal. And I am not being a fanboy of any of these two, although I do 
have Samsung cell phone, but it is one issued by my company anyway. And 
trust me, Samsung Galaxy S II pretty much sucks.



(Frank wrote:)


Doesn't mean they should stop making money from on of their biggest
clients, does it? This is a simple ongoing commodity transaction that
is completely divorced from the intellectual property departments
duking it out.


(Boris wrote:)



Well, no. In fact, there is nothing immoral in stopping dealing with
Apple. Like it is always said - nothing personal, just business...
Someone up the ladder came up with the power point presentation that
appears to support the idea that in terms of profit this would be the
best move for Samsung and hence the decision was eventually made.

I am surprised it wasn't made way earlier, in fact.


There's several ways to look at it. I'm not a Samsung fanboy or
necessarily anti-Apple.


Likewise.


On the one hand, if you go suing your supplier who's also a
competitor... well I don't know how much profit Samsung makes on their
business with Apple, but $1B probably covers what they made on A LOT
of iPad displays and other chips. So it sort of looks like, in a way,
that Apple would be, in essence, getting Samsung's product for less
than the agreed upon price. Score for Apple. If I were Samsung would I
want to do business with a company that was essentially getting my
product at a cut-rate price via litigation? Rumor has it Apple was
already looking for lower cost displays. If I were Samsung I'd tell
Apple to shove it, which they may have done. All businesses have a
legitimate interest in making a fair and honest profit.

On the other hand I read that $1B is only a day or two's worth of
revenue for Samsung, and that the lawsuit may have elevated Samsung in
the eyes of some as a worthy Apple competitor. If so, a possible
misstep by Apple.


I don't think it is that much important really, Tom. You see, I don't 
really think it can hurt the consumers one way or another. It is not as 
if Samsung will be prohibited from making and selling cell phones, 
period. It is not as if iPhone is going away. Even Nokia, being in dire 
straits now (as it seems from the press) still produces bloody lot of 
their units.


I don't think that either outcome will seriously affect either company. 
I don't think it is a publicity stunt because it is taking far too long 
for that - mass memory does not have that long a term.


I sincerely think that what we're seeing today is a number of people who 
hold positions of immense power that have climbed up some rather tall 
ladders that grew to be trees and they cannot be made to climb down.


However in my original message I was trying to be more theoretical. In 
principle, Samsung should have sat down, looked at the numbers and made 
the optimal decision in terms of their business going. It well may be 
that they *chose* to do what is being done now just like I described.



I don't countenance the theft of intellectual property via Samsung or
Apple and I don't know where the truth is there. I certainly don't
agree with 'you cant make a product that's slim, rectangular, has
rounded corners and uses icons or gestures that are meaningful'.


I do remember the story about Palm Pilot creators who carried a wooden 
block of the form of Palm Pilot in their pocket to see if it is 
convenient. I reckon if late Steve Jobs or whomever else did it, they 
would be emotionally pissed to know that someone did not have to do this 
but the other person's company is producing slim, rectangular smart 
blocks of plastic and silicon...


I think we talked about patent system few threads ago and it is indeed 
one of the more contorted creations of human mind, at least as of nowadays.



It seems that corporations, like governments, once in power, do
everything possible to stay in power and suppress contenders.


Absolutely. It is animal instinct taken to the power of human mind taken 
to the power of size of the corporation.



The actions of a corporation are the deliberate actions of thinking
human beings. Those actions are either fair and legitimate or they are
not, regardless of how the legal profession wishes to spin it.


I have to beg to differ here. The actions of corporations are sequences 
of deliberate actions of human beings, some of which are not really 
thinking. As such, they are 

Re: Nasty Storm East Coast

2012-10-28 Thread Tim Bray
... and if you can’t be safe, take lots of pictures!

On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey, guys from the East coast! Please be safe!

 On 10/29/2012 2:14 AM, jn289 wrote:

 I hope everyone on the East Coast remains OK.

 Ann, I was calling just to how you are..Joe



 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
 follow the directions.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Convert PEF to DNG or not?

2012-10-28 Thread Boris Liberman

GOn 10/26/2012 9:59 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

It's very easy to convert PEF files (any compatible native raw files,
as a matter of fact) to DNG format in Lightroom. Just select all the
PEF files in the Library module (grid view) and then choose the
Convert to DNG command from the Library menu. You will be presented
with the DNG options panel ... choose the options you want and click
OK.


Godfrey, et al. It is indeed most convenient as it imports the DNG files 
on the spot and offers to delete the original PEF files right away. 
Truly convenient by all means.


The only question that I'd like to ask - I need to choose which version 
of DNG to convert to. Which one would you suggest - the older one or 
more modern one?


Boris



--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Mechanical anti-aliasing?

2012-10-28 Thread Larry Colen

On Oct 28, 2012, at 6:17 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote:

 
 
 Whether the idea works or not, I'd wager it's patentable.
 
 
 Build it Larry, and they will come.

All I need is a K5-IIs, the source code to the firmware and a dev box.


--
Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est





-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.