Re: K-1 and 70-200mm are "in full production run"

2015-12-07 Thread Igor PDML-StR



Larry Colen Mon, 07 Dec 2015 12:41:06 -0800 wrote:


End of March? More like the start of April.


You aren't going to fool us here, are you?



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Re: PESO - Awesome: no tears on crocodile monitor

2015-12-06 Thread Igor PDML-StR



Thanks all for looking and commenting!
Below are a couple of comments interspersed.


 ann sanfedele Sun, 06 Dec 2015 07:24:07 -0800 wrote:


sweet expressionyou captured on that fearsomebeastie

What I envisioned was a different kind for monitor wrapped in crocodile 
stretch fabric, the way Ceasar wrapped his Lx'en



ann


Ha-ha!  I can do some things with my hands, but I am not into artistic 
crafts.



 Alan C Sun, 06 Dec 2015 03:59:02 -0800 wrote:

Quite handsome actually. The ones we have around here look quite vicious 
by comparison.


Alan, that's probably because you are not feeding them... I am sure Mr. 
Awesome is fed well.



Igor

On Sun, 6 Dec 2015, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



A thoughtfully-looking guy with a funny-sounding name:
http://42graphy.org/misc/CrocodileMonitor_IR29379.jpg

No, it is not a crocodile, nor a part of crocodile's computer.
Rather, it is believed to be warning about crocodiles that are nearby...

And at Moody Gardens' Rainforest Pyramid, it is called Mr. Awesome.
http://blog.moodygardens.com/tag/crocodile-monitor/
And formally it is called "Varanus Salvadorii":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varanus_salvadorii

All comments are welcome!

Igor




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PESO - Awesome: no tears on crocodile monitor

2015-12-05 Thread Igor PDML-StR


A thoughtfully-looking guy with a funny-sounding name:
http://42graphy.org/misc/CrocodileMonitor_IR29379.jpg

No, it is not a crocodile, nor a part of crocodile's computer.
Rather, it is believed to be warning about crocodiles that are nearby...

And at Moody Gardens' Rainforest Pyramid, it is called Mr. Awesome.
http://blog.moodygardens.com/tag/crocodile-monitor/
And formally it is called "Varanus Salvadorii":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varanus_salvadorii

All comments are welcome!

Igor


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SDHC/SDXC cards speed and Pentax K-3 ii (test results)

2015-12-05 Thread Igor PDML-StR



The question of the card speed vs. capabilities of the camera pop-up 
every so often. (Recently Larry was asking about it.)


I just found results of tests with Pentax K-3 ii camera.
I don't how this would reflect on K-3 or K-5*, but I hope these data
would be useful for some PDMLers.
http://www.cameramemoryspeed.com/pentax-k-3-ii/fastest-sd-card-comparison-test/#WriteSpeedResults

Igor


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Re: PESO - Small Wasp

2015-12-04 Thread Igor PDML-StR


:-)))

Sometimes, nominally antonyms can mean almost the same, e.g.
"shut up" and "shut down" - both supposed to create silence.

Literally! [sic!]


 Bruce Walker Fri, 04 Dec 2015 18:48:01 -0800 wrote:


Inverted my meaning accidentally with a typo ...

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Bruce Walker  
wrote:


In my case, creating a huge field of crazy specular reflections was my
whole point. The large hard silver light source was directly behind me
so the model is surrounded by millions of points of sparkling light.
Kudos to the Pentax lenses and coatings that let me do this with
massive veiling flare.



^^^ without massive veiling flare ^^^

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Re: PESO - Small Wasp

2015-12-04 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Exactamundo!

Here is the one I saw: 
http://amhistory.si.edu/onthemove/collection/object_1182.html


Thank you, Bruce!

And here is an interesting story about that car's creator:
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-tucker-was-the-1940s-car-of-the-future-135008742/


Igor


 Bruce Walker Fri, 04 Dec 2015 18:04:55 -0800 wrote:

Igor, your 3-eyed car is the 1948 Tucker Torpedo.

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 8:56 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:


That's a fun looking car!
(As well as the 2-eyed Sprite on the photo posted by Frank.)

Actually, there was at least one 3-eyed car, I believe, in 60s.
I've seen one at one of the Smithonian museums (I believe it was
Smithsonian National Museum of American History) in DC back in 1995.
My vague recollection of it was that it was conteporary of JFK, but that
might be off by a few years.
The middle headlight was turning with the wheels.

I have a printed photograph of it, - but since that I was unable to trace
what model that car was (actually, I never tried hard). I suspect some
experts on this list might know that model.
(I am too tired at the moment to dig into the photo albums and scan that
photo.)

Igor


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Re: PESO ~ Tools PUG alternate: bolt cutter

2015-12-04 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Bruce,

I actually thought that you were deliberately trying to have the 
reflections. My suggestion may not work for you for that reason, -
and that's fine. I was just thinking aloud about how to avoid 
blending with the backdrop.


Then you might want to try something else to achieve a better separation.
That would depend on your vision of what you are trying to achieve.
Or maybe you already achieved what you wanted.

In any case, it is obvious that you are having lots of fun!

Igor

PS. Having read your intention, I am thinking what type of effect would be 
produced by blasting the light onto the backdrop from right behind the 
model, with a slightly more subtle source in front of the model (maybe at 
an angle).



Bruce Walker Fri, 04 Dec 2015 17:58:43 -0800 wrote:

Well, thanks Igor, but I'm afraid your suggestions put me in mind of a
fragment of Bruce Springsteen lyric:


Mama always told me not to look into the sights of the sun
Oh, but Mama, that's where the fun is

I can just imagine you giving advice like this to a test pilot: "you
would experience a smoother ride with none of those annoying sonic
booms if you would keep your airspeed below 767 miles per hour."
Thing is, going really fast is the whole point! :)

In my case, creating a huge field of crazy specular reflections was my
whole point. The large hard silver light source was directly behind me
so the model is surrounded by millions of points of sparkling light.
Kudos to the Pentax lenses and coatings that let me do this with
massive veiling flare.

Sure I could substitute a black background or shift the lights
off-axis but I'd have a completely different image then, and not what
I was after.

On Fri, 4 Dec 2015, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



I agree with Dan.

For this "silver" image, I think silver-on-silver doesn't work too well:
The separation of the two "metals" is not sufficient, even though the pattern 
of the backdrop helps somewhat.

It even creates an illusion of a "floating" head (as if the head
is inserted in a hole in the board with some picture drawn on the board).
I am thinking if a dark (black?) backdrop would've been better.

And, probably, there are too many light reflections from the backdrop.
Maybe if instead of straight-on light that gives rise to those, two lights 
from both sides at some 30-45 degrees would both issues that I mentioned 
here. Basically, I am thinking along the lines of reducing specular 
reflections from the backdrop, making it more diffused light.


Cheers,

Igor



Daniel J. Matyola Fri, 04 Dec 2015 08:47:17 -0800 wrote:

Interesting, but I prefer the one you chose for the PUG.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola



On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:


I had a number of reasonable alternatives to post for the "Tools" PUG
theme. This was one of the best contenders ...

https://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/23435209925/lightbox/

Don't worry: completely safe image, fully clothed. Rated G for general
audiences. :)

645Z, DFA645 f:2.8 55mm, f:11, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO.

Lighting:
1. Paul C Buff 7 foot extreme silver PLM behind camera, perpendicular
to background.
2. PCB Litemod 7" reflector with 10 degree grid camera-left a bit,
aimed at model's face.

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Re: PESO - Small Wasp

2015-12-04 Thread Igor PDML-StR


That's a fun looking car!
(As well as the 2-eyed Sprite on the photo posted by Frank.)

Actually, there was at least one 3-eyed car, I believe, in 60s.
I've seen one at one of the Smithonian museums (I believe it was
Smithsonian National Museum of American History) in DC back in 1995.
My vague recollection of it was that it was conteporary of JFK, but that 
might be off by a few years.

The middle headlight was turning with the wheels.

I have a printed photograph of it, - but since that I was unable to trace 
what model that car was (actually, I never tried hard). I suspect some 
experts on this list might know that model.
(I am too tired at the moment to dig into the photo albums and scan that 
photo.)


Igor


On December 4, 2015 1:44:39 PM EST, Mark C wrote:


I sometimes wonder if automobile designers are deliberately trying
anthropomorphize their products, but at the end of the day two head
lights ("eyes") and one grill ("mouth") will result in some resemblance

to a human or at least vertebrate face. Adding a third light would
change that -

http://forums.motortrend.com/70/6735296/the-artists-loft/the-return-of-tucker/index.html

I keep looking for alternate subjects other than insects and spiders,
but despite several test shoots I still have not found much that is
interesting at these magnifications.

Mark


On 12/3/2015 11:56 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Great work, as usual, Mark!

I do not find these insect particularly ugly or threatening.
In many (most?) cases those impressions both concepts are
experience-based.

Naturally, a human brain tends to like what we are used to, and
dislike (or even get threatened by) what is very disparate from
ourselves: we fear unknown.
 I think it is very similar to the roots of xenophobia (and a few
other phobias). I also think a similar mechanism is responsible (at
least in part) for face recognition problems across races.

Mark, I see why you said this insect looks like a puppy.
It does a little bit.
By the way, this is actually a great example of that we tend to

relate

new objects to something that we are familiar with.
Very similarly, we find human-like features in cars (headlights ->

eyes,

grill -> face), and classify some grill features as friendly or
aggressive.

Igor

PS. I find it interesting that a few months ago I was shooting a

wasp,

thinking it was an ant queen. :-)
You might remember it: http://42graphy.org/misc/_IR27045.jpg




On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Mark C wrote:


Since posting this I've learned that it is actually an ant queen,

and

not a
wasp, not that it makes much difference to the viewer. As nasty as

ti

looks,
the whole frame is covering less than 3mm of space, so the ant is
very tiny
indeed.


On 12/3/2015 12:19 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:


Certainly a creature one wouldn't want to meet in a dark alley :-).

On 12/3/2015 1:48, Mark C wrote:


Looks a little like a puppy to me:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/small-wasp-1

or on flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/23370180022/

8x lifesized. Pentax K01 and K 24 f3.5, lots of extension and

flash.


Comments welcome!

Mark




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Re: PESO ~ Tools PUG alternate: bolt cutter

2015-12-04 Thread Igor PDML-StR


I agree with Dan.

For this "silver" image, I think silver-on-silver doesn't work too well:
The separation of the two "metals" is not sufficient, even though the 
pattern of the backdrop helps somewhat.

It even creates an illusion of a "floating" head (as if the head
is inserted in a hole in the board with some picture drawn on the board).
I am thinking if a dark (black?) backdrop would've been better.

And, probably, there are too many light reflections from the backdrop.
Maybe if instead of straight-on light that gives rise to those, two lights 
from both sides at some 30-45 degrees would both issues that I mentioned 
here. Basically, I am thinking along the lines of reducing specular 
reflections from the backdrop, making it more diffused light.


Cheers,

Igor



Daniel J. Matyola Fri, 04 Dec 2015 08:47:17 -0800 wrote:

Interesting, but I prefer the one you chose for the PUG.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola



On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:


I had a number of reasonable alternatives to post for the "Tools" PUG
theme. This was one of the best contenders ...

https://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/23435209925/lightbox/

Don't worry: completely safe image, fully clothed. Rated G for general
audiences. :)

645Z, DFA645 f:2.8 55mm, f:11, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO.

Lighting:
1. Paul C Buff 7 foot extreme silver PLM behind camera, perpendicular
to background.
2. PCB Litemod 7" reflector with 10 degree grid camera-left a bit,
aimed at model's face.

Comments welcome.

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Re: PESO: Kia Orana

2015-12-03 Thread Igor PDML-StR


I assumed you had a not-too-small f.-number...

Cheers!
Igor


 David Mann Thu, 03 Dec 2015 20:47:24 -0800 wrote:

You don't know the size of my aperture!

Cheers,
Dave


On Dec 4, 2015, at 3:40 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:


Dave,

That's exactly what photographers do: When the sun is bright, in the absence
of a Neutral Density filter, you set a short shutter speed.

:-D

Igor


David Mann Wed, 02 Dec 2015 20:27:06 -0800 wrote:

Thanks, Igor.  I had better mention that I did lie in the hammock for a few
minutes but I wasn't wearing sunscreen at the time so I had to limit my
exposure.  I planned to go back but never quite got around to it.


Cheers,
Dave


On Wed, 2 Dec 2015, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




Dave:

What an idyllic scene!
.. ideally pictured.

I am speachless and envy.

Igor

On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 11:17 PM, David Mann wrote:


Yesterday we arrived back from an enjoyable week on Rarotonga which is the
largest of the Cook Islands.
Here's a photo to make you feel miserable :)
http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/939/#peso
Hope I didn't miss too much, I have 501 messages...
Cheers,
Dave




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Re: PESO - Small Wasp

2015-12-03 Thread Igor PDML-StR



Great work, as usual, Mark!

I do not find these insect particularly ugly or threatening.
In many (most?) cases those impressions both concepts are 
experience-based.


Naturally, a human brain tends to like what we are used to, and dislike 
(or even get threatened by) what is very disparate from ourselves: we fear 
unknown.
 I think it is very similar to the roots of xenophobia (and a few other 
phobias). I also think a similar mechanism is responsible (at least in 
part) for face recognition problems across races.


Mark, I see why you said this insect looks like a puppy.
It does a little bit.
By the way, this is actually a great example of that we tend to relate
new objects to something that we are familiar with.
Very similarly, we find human-like features in cars (headlights -> eyes,
grill -> face), and classify some grill features as friendly or 
aggressive.


Igor

PS. I find it interesting that a few months ago I was shooting a wasp, 
thinking it was an ant queen. :-)

You might remember it: http://42graphy.org/misc/_IR27045.jpg




On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Mark C wrote:


Since posting this I've learned that it is actually an ant queen, and not a
wasp, not that it makes much difference to the viewer. As nasty as ti looks,
the whole frame is covering less than 3mm of space, so the ant is very tiny
indeed.


On 12/3/2015 12:19 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:


Certainly a creature one wouldn't want to meet in a dark alley :-).

On 12/3/2015 1:48, Mark C wrote:


Looks a little like a puppy to me:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/small-wasp-1

or on flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/23370180022/

8x lifesized. Pentax K01 and K 24 f3.5, lots of extension and flash.

Comments welcome!

Mark


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Re: PESO: Kia Orana

2015-12-03 Thread Igor PDML-StR



Dave,

That's exactly what photographers do: When the sun is bright, in the 
absence of a Neutral Density filter, you set a short shutter speed.


:-D

Igor


 David Mann Wed, 02 Dec 2015 20:27:06 -0800 wrote:

Thanks, Igor.  I had better mention that I did lie in the hammock for a 
few minutes but I wasn't wearing sunscreen at the time so I had to limit 
my exposure.  I planned to go back but never quite got around to it.



Cheers,
Dave


On Wed, 2 Dec 2015, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




Dave:

What an idyllic scene!
.. ideally pictured.

I am speachless and envy.

Igor

On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 11:17 PM, David Mann wrote:


Yesterday we arrived back from an enjoyable week on Rarotonga which is the
largest of the Cook Islands.

Here's a photo to make you feel miserable :)
http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/939/#peso

Hope I didn't miss too much, I have 501 messages...

Cheers,
Dave




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Re: PESO - After The First Snow

2015-12-03 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Bulent,

It is a nice image.
I see a story, but it might be different from yours.

But on my, seemingly still calibrated, screen, - it looks a bit too dark.
If it were my image, I would have bumped up the exposure (in LR).
I would have also considered some "unsharpen mask" ("presence" in LR), - 
to have the flower standing out more.


Best,

Igor


On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote:


A simple composition.

https://celasun.wordpress.com/2015/12/03/after-the-first-snow/

It, however, tells me a story...

(Ricoh GXR A12).

Bulent


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Re: New "IR" 645z

2015-12-02 Thread Igor PDML-StR


What I find interesting is the last phrase on that website
(in automatic Google translation):

"In addition, not sold to the general customers for the purpose of 
personal use."

https://goo.gl/icKkbz

I wonder why...
The only guess is that the sensor is very IR-sensitive (maybe has 
sensitivity into the deeper IR-range?), which creates
some privacy concerns (as it [presumably] was the case with some 
military-surplus night-vision tools).


Any ideas?

Igor



On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Darren Addy wrote:


http://news.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/rim_info/2015/20151127_009960.html

IMHO, this camera is named incorrectly:
If the cut filter is removed and the IR filter must be placed over the
LENS, then that means that the camera has been modified to become a
Full Spectrum camera and you can put ANY filter over the front to
limit the wavelength of light reaching the sensor. This means
narrowband astrophotography is possible with it (astrophotography that
is not affected by city skyglow or moonlight).

You are not going to BELIEVE the astrophotography that can be done
with this instrument. (In addition to the other possible uses of any
full spectrum camera.) Super move by Ricoh/Pentax.



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Re: PESO: Kia Orana

2015-12-02 Thread Igor PDML-StR



Dave:

What an idyllic scene!
.. ideally pictured.

I am speachless and envy.

Igor

On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 11:17 PM, David Mann wrote:


Yesterday we arrived back from an enjoyable week on Rarotonga which is the
largest of the Cook Islands.

Here's a photo to make you feel miserable :)
http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/939/#peso

Hope I didn't miss too much, I have 501 messages...

Cheers,
Dave


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Re: PESO: Bark in the Park

2015-12-02 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Dan,

When I first looked at this photo, my impression was that it is a 
self-repeating image (as in a multiple mirrors). This funny illusion was

caused by a sort-of repeated combination of people facing back toward you.
Upon a careful look, I realized that none of them are actually similar,
but the illusion remains.

I enjoyed the title too.

Igor


On Dec 1, 2015, at 9:50 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:



Our local minor league baseball park has a tradition;  for several
games each year, fans are invited to bring along their dogs to the
ball game.  (No cats!)  The dogs and their owners parade around the
field before the game, and them enjoy the ambiance, the food and the
action on the field.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18136013&size=lg
K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom
Comments are invited.


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Re: So the Luminous Landscape is going behind a pay wall...

2015-12-02 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Larry,

Are you implying that TOP is sci-fi too? ;-)

Igor


Tue Dec 1 13:48:06 EST 2015 Larry Colen wrote:

Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 01.12.15 um 14:56 schrieb Darren Addy:

Forgive my ignorance, but what is TOP.


I'm tempted to answer that, in this case, ignorance is bliss.

So, click at your own risk:

http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/blog_index.html


Ctein, who I know from the local science fiction community wrote some
articles for ToP.  I just found out from a mutual friend that a book he
co-authored is now available:
http://www.amazon.com/Saturn-Run-John-Sandford/dp/0399176950/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1448995558&sr=8-1&keywords=ctein




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Re: Weird Pentax items @Walmart

2015-12-01 Thread Igor PDML-StR


I remember reading about the draconian demands of Walmart from its 
suppliers (borderlining racket). Those are a barrier for some businesses 
to sell their products at Walmart.

On another hand, for the last 10 years Walmart.com has been selling
Pentax bodies and lenses through walmart.com.

Igor


 P.J. Alling Tue, 01 Dec 2015 10:46:27 -0800 wrote:

Yea, I was told by a Walmart manager, (I don't know how much he really
knew, but for what it's worth), that Pentax wouldn't play ball with
Walmart on pricing and supply,

On 12/1/2015 12:58 PM, John wrote:

Probably won't find anything Pentax in an actual Walmart store.

On 11/30/2015 10:40 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


Lenses with Mm focal length (M = Mega, so it would be megameters, e.g.
thousands of kilometers):
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Pentax/43852553

Another item is a "Pentax Lens Kit (Blue Cream Soda)"
(And you'd have to work hard to find the camera's model written
anywhere...):


http://www.walmart.com/ip/Pentax-Lens-Kit-Blue-Cream-Soda-SLR-Sweets-Collection-20MP-SLR-Camera-with-3-Inch-LCD-Body-Only/44890947



or a short link: http://goo.gl/wD5V0w


Walmart is trying to be Amazon, including being a marketplace platform.
Some of the 3rd-party sellers that are selling Pentax photo items seem
to have very little clue about what they are actually selling.

Enjoy!

Igor



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Weird Pentax items @Walmart

2015-11-30 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Lenses with Mm focal length (M = Mega, so it would be megameters, e.g. 
thousands of kilometers):

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Pentax/43852553

Another item is a "Pentax Lens Kit (Blue Cream Soda)"
(And you'd have to work hard to find the camera's model written 
anywhere...):

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Pentax-Lens-Kit-Blue-Cream-Soda-SLR-Sweets-Collection-20MP-SLR-Camera-with-3-Inch-LCD-Body-Only/44890947
or a short link: http://goo.gl/wD5V0w


Walmart is trying to be Amazon, including being a marketplace platform. 
Some of the 3rd-party sellers that are selling Pentax photo items seem to 
have very little clue about what they are actually selling.


Enjoy!

Igor




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Re: OT or not OT

2015-11-28 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Joe,

I am so sorry to hear this... And since the morning when I read that, I've 
been at a complete loss not knowing what to write...


I recalled some exchanges over the years. Among those was an unexpected 
surprise holiday greeting back in 2008 and then in 2009.

Those and other bright moments are greatfully remembered.

And here are a couple of your images that I still remember from the early
days of PUG (and PDML) some 15 years ago:
http://pug.komkon.org/00marc/oldmasters.htm
http://pug.komkon.org/00janu/cloudfan.htm
Those are charming! I love sunsets too...

You'll be missed here...

Igor



On Nov 27, 2015, at 10:30 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote:


On Nov 27, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Ken Waller wrote:


I'm squinting a little but I can't see you.

All I see are black letters on a field of white.

Kenneth Waller



In the not too distant future, that is all you'll see from this tired old
photo=weenie.

First found in late 2014, cancer of the left kidney. By last week, cancer is
is now chewing up my right kidney, my lower spine, pelvis, bladder, my brain
and my right femur.. Rapid, greedy and uncomfortable to sit around in it's
pain, it's going to be a short year, or at best a short 2016.

Am planning on selling or donating  most of my loot.  Not organized as yet,
but I will find someone to list everything photo,  Plans to deal with my
imagery as well as my family's geneology may have to evaporate along with my
brain.

Over 1500 PDML msgs to read. May not get too much done as the brain is
damaged. MRI in two weeks will tell that story.

It's been fun allowing my thoughts mingle with such depth of experience and
humor.

I may or may not respond read or answer or reply, but will try.

J.J.McA


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Re: PESO - Endangered Species

2015-11-25 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Sadly, you are right...
One of two remaining photo stores in Houston closed earlier this year:
http://www.yelp.com/biz/camera-co-op-houston

It was a nice store with nice people working in it.
I don't know what happened. From what I heard, they were going to move to 
a diferent location, but then the owner started selling the remaining 
stock over the phone.
(I learned about it only a few weeks ago, about half a year after it 
closed.)


Igor


Rick Womer Tue, 24 Nov 2015 19:00:07 -0800 wrote:

Move over, Alan C!  I also recently photographed an endangered species, in 
the wilds of Vancouver:



http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18132863

That's right! A brick-and-mortar camera shop advertising Pentax and Ricoh; 
=and= with the K-S2, K-3, and K-3II on display, along with at least a 
dozen lenses.


Bigfoot next!

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Re: Packing for a trip...

2015-11-25 Thread Igor PDML-StR



Bob, I think you are grossly undervaluing Mark.
I think he produces _EXTRAordinary_ (garbage) 

:-D   < EXTRA BIG Grin


Bob W-PDML Wed, 25 Nov 2015 11:36:12 -0800 wrote:

When Mark uses the camera it converts it _into_ ordinary garbage...


:0)   <= big smiley


On 25 Nov 2015, at 14:28, Darren Addy  wrote:

The bad news is that the K-1 consumes 1.21 gigawatts of power.
The good news is that it can convert that power from ordinary garbage.

On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 8:20 AM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:

As usual, a selection of camera gear is in order. Of course. And ad
usual I'll be bringing two camera bodies . the K-5 and the K-01 this
time around. And thus, for the first time in *years* all the batteries
I pack will be the same and I'll only need one charger!

I'll enjoy the feeling until the K-1 arrives in the spring, I suppose.



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Re: PDML ~ fate handed me a clementine

2015-11-24 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Bruce,

I am very much enjoying your recent series -- "studies".
Yesterday, while writing this message, I looked through your new gallery 
website again, and I enjoyed the fun combination (or even juxtaposition) 
of live models and mannequins. (Or should I call them womannequins?)


Now, here is what I've written yesterday about this photo, but didn't send 
right away.



I am sure mine will be the only "dissenting opinion".

I like the technical aspects of the photo: the light, the setting, 
especially how the lamp, light and shadows render.

I like the artistic aspects of the setting.
But a couple of aspects keep bothering me. Both are related to the pose.

First, the way she is slouched.
The combination (or juxtaposition?) of her look and the setting
creates some vibe that I don't know how to call. For the lack of a better 
word, I'd use "power" (or a combination of strength and maybe even 
intimidation.).

That slouching is neutralizing all of that.
But what do I know, - maybe that was the desired effect?!


For the second, I should share my childhood memory:
The very first film I shot in my life (B&W), - to start learning 
photography, - included a few first shots of my father. He was took a shot 
"straight on" at a relatively short distance.

To keep the long story short, - I had the obvious result to learn from:
what you get from the perspective... That's what I see kids are learning 
quickly by shooting their own legs with the camera.

And the second association is with a backfiring compliment:
"Wow! You've got such legs! One is longer than the other!".


In this case, - the right leg of the model suffered that type of 
"disproportional elongation".



And a minor thing, - I'd think that it would've been better without 
that bright red in her "clothing". It clashes here with the setting (see 
my first item above). Even though in many other situations, this red 
would've been "powerful", here it seems out of the color gamma. It looks 
like a piece of a backpack.


I hope these thoughts would be useful...

Keep it up!
(I mean your photo studies.)

Cheers,
Igor



On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:


A shot from a creative shoot that resulted from a model cancellation
and this model being suddenly available on about 12 hours notice.
Sometimes fate hands you clementines.

NSFW: fashion nudity

http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/#!/index/I31f3jQxo7HY

Model Little Miss Maggie May ~ https://www.instagram.com/littlemaggiemay/
Hair & makeup: Judi Willrich ~ http://judi-willrich.com

645Z, DFA645 55mm/2.8 SDM, f:4, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO

One light: Buff 86" extreme silver PLM above camera-left.

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Re: Pentax D FA * 70-200/2.8

2015-11-24 Thread Igor PDML-StR



Darren:

Yes, I realize it is not sold by Amazon, sorry, I wasn't more clear about 
it. I actually looked for other sellers, including Amazon itself 
yesterday, but somehow I missed those two that you mentioned.


And yes, it probably makes sense that this lens could be released earlier 
in Japan.



Collin:
Yep, thanks for the explanation.
I actually knew about these three AF options.
I didn't know what DC in this case stands for, but I didn't expect it
to be "direct current" (and hence my comment about it).
I thought it was a mistake in translation, but it looks like this term
is actually used in the "official" descriptions. I hadn't see it before, 
but now I see it in B&H descriptions.
I am still puzzled buy this term though: I am not aware of any AC being 
used in cameras; so, all electric motors are using DC.


Igor



Tue Nov 24 10:01:03 EST 2015 Collin B wrote:


That listing has an interesting "product highlight":
"Direct Current AF"...
Ghm... As opposed to AC-AF? ;-)


Pentax has 3 AF systems.  The original gear drive, SDM, and DC.
It's DC as opposed to the other two.
IIRC, they have maintained a single interface to power both DC & SDM -- 
the

old PZ connectors.






On Tue, 24 Nov 2015, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




I just noticed that Amazon has it listed already (with a Dec.28, 2015 in 
stock date).

I haven't heard much said about this lens...

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00T70TPQO/
$3,880.   Ouch!

Although I see one listed @B&H:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1117718-REG/pentax_21330_hd_pentax_d_fa.html
for a much smaller amount: $2300, but available on Feb.25, 2016.

That listing has an interesting "product highlight":
"Direct Current AF"...
Ghm... As opposed to AC-AF? ;-)

Igor




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discounted sample kit from RedRiver

2015-11-24 Thread Igor PDML-StR


I know that some PDMLers are using Red River papers.

There is a special order for the sample kit of 23 different papers for 
only $4.99 and free shipping (or at least it is free within Texas).

http://goo.gl/89xljX

However, note that you can not use this 8.5"x11" (Letter) size paper for 
8.5"x11" prints. This arrogant company insists on printing the paper name 
on the _front_ side of the paper (and does not say that explicitly for 
this sample kit).


So, if you can cut it and can use [up-to] 8"x10" paper for something, - 
this could be a good opportunity to sample their 8"x10" papers at a low 
cost. Otherwise, you can use it for checking the calibration color profile.
Or, if all what you do with paper is just staring at it, you can "sample" 
it that way.

Caveat Emtpor!


Cheers,

Igor


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Pentax D FA * 70-200/2.8

2015-11-23 Thread Igor PDML-StR



I just noticed that Amazon has it listed already (with a Dec.28, 2015 in 
stock date).

I haven't heard much said about this lens...

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00T70TPQO/
$3,880.   Ouch!

Although I see one listed @B&H:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1117718-REG/pentax_21330_hd_pentax_d_fa.html
for a much smaller amount: $2300, but available on Feb.25, 2016.

That listing has an interesting "product highlight":
"Direct Current AF"...
Ghm... As opposed to AC-AF? ;-)

Igor


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Re: Last PUG of 2015 - Countdown

2015-11-23 Thread Igor PDML-StR



E.g. chain-saws shouldn't be bloody...


On Mon, 23 Nov 2015, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




I assume it should be kept at least PG-13. :-)

Igor

ann sanfedele Mon, 23 Nov 2015 15:13:11 -0800 wrote:

Risky topic ...;-)

ann


On 11/23/2015 2:22 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

   G'day all

   Another 12 months - gone in a flash. But there's still time to submit
   for the Decemvber PUG.

   Theme: Tools

   Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

   Nominal closing date: 30 November


   Cheers

   Brian



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Re: Last PUG of 2015 - Countdown

2015-11-23 Thread Igor PDML-StR



I assume it should be kept at least PG-13. :-)

Igor

ann sanfedele Mon, 23 Nov 2015 15:13:11 -0800 wrote:

Risky topic ...;-)

ann


On 11/23/2015 2:22 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

Another 12 months - gone in a flash. But there's still time to submit
for the Decemvber PUG.

Theme: Tools

Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

Nominal closing date: 30 November


Cheers

Brian

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Re: PESOs Tinman at the Quarter Note

2015-11-21 Thread Igor PDML-StR



Larry,

Bruce expressed my thoughts. I also thought that the single shot that you 
referenced and other fish-eye shots (at least the first three in the set)

were very effective.
I know some people do not like fisheye, and I agree that sometimes it 
might be hard to use it efficiently (which includes tastefully here).
But fisheye has its place for serious photography (as opposed to 
caricatures), and your photo(s) is(are) a good example.


But I have a technical question related to that lens.
I thought you had the same lens as I do, 8mm f/3.5, don't you?
Is that f/2.8 just a typo? I do not see 8/2.8 in K-mount. (Is there one?)
(And I was surprised that there is 8mm/2.8 in some other mounts)



Also, I just discovered that there is  Rokinon fisheye 12mm f/2.8 
(pentax). But on B&H it is listed as "discontinued".

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1089936-REG/rokinon_12m_p_12mm_f_2_8_ed_as.html
At first, I thought that it was just a new lens that hasn't been shipped 
yet.. But then I see that it exists on Amazon from a 3rd party seller:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PDHY57E/

Does anyobyd know what's the situation with that lens?

Igor



 Bruce Walker Sat, 21 Nov 2015 05:17:52 -0800 wrote:

The fish-eye shot is really effective. Nice!

On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 3:54 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:

I finally had a chance to sort out the photos from last Saturday into a
smaller set.  Here's one of the band and some dancers, shot with the 16-50:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/22733433119/in/album-72157660633912889/

Here's one of the band.  In the front you can see the most important member
of the band, Phillip, the tip jar.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/23111687292/in/album-72157660633912889/
shot with my Bowers 8/2.8

For those interested in the whole set of 31:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157660633912889/



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Re: What type of printers are those?

2015-11-20 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Thank you, John!

Igor

 John Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:56:55 -0800  wrote:

Maybe Oc. Lightjet, Durst Lambda, or ZBE Chromira?

http://www.largeformatphotography.info/digital-printing.html

Looks like ZBE is the only one still manufacturing large format laser
chromogenic printers.

http://www.zbe.com/products/chromira/chromira_5x.html

You can put a traditional chromogenic print emulsion on almost any flat
material that can be fed from a roll. I get 12"x36" panoramic
photographic prints from Costco, printed on a Fuji Frontier.

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Pentax K3-ii and patents

2015-11-20 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Apparently, I've missed the fact (discussed back in the spring) that the 
pixel-shift technology used by K3-ii could've been infringing on Apple's 
patent (application) of 2012.

See e.g. here:
http://connect.dpreview.com/post/9695333253/apple-patents-super-resolution-camera-mode
Or read the patent application here:
http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.html&r=2&p=1&f=G&l=50&d=PG01&S1=%28348%2F208.5.CCLS.+AND+20140508.PD.%29&OS=ccl/348/208.5+and+pd/5/8/2014&RS=%28CCL/348/208.5+AND+PD/20140508%29


If you missed all that like me, then you might also be interested to know
there were much earlier patent(s?) on the same or very similar ideas. E.g. 
this one, filed in 1988:

https://www.google.com/patents/DE3837063C1?cl=en

Cheers,

Igor

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Re: Has anybody used "silky" type of paper?

2015-11-20 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Thank you, P.J.
It looks like this "silky" is different from luster, but then, it might be 
just a marketing gimmick.


Igor


 P.J. Alling Thu, 19 Nov 2015 20:59:38 -0800 wrote:

I don't know exactly what they mean by Silky, I have used Inkpress
luster, which is well semigloss, as expected, it's very nice and gives
very good results with Canon inks.

On 11/19/2015 7:04 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


Hi All!

I just came across some papers that have "silky" finish.
(It is offered at some print shop that I am considering to use, but it
is in a far-away city.)
Here is an example of such a paper:
http://www.inkpresspaper.com/profiles.asp?PaperID=39

Note that this seems to be different from "silk coating" (about which
I hadn't heard either until today:
http://photography.tutsplus.com/articles/quick-tip-understanding-printing-paper-types--photo-6654
(Scroll down about 2/3 of the page.)


Has anybody here used this "silky" type of paper?
If yes, - what's you impression?

Thank you,

Igor




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What type of printers are those?

2015-11-20 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Hi All,

I am hoping to draw from the rich technical knowledge of PDMLers.

First, (from early 2000s or even earlier), photo-printing shops/labs that 
could print from the digital media were using on "regular", i.e. 
light-sensitive, photo paper.


Then, for the large formats and the media such as canvas, watercolor, 
metallic, they started using something else. What was that?
I thought those were wide ink-jet printers, but then I am not sure in case 
of the metallic prints. I ordered a bunch of them back in 2007-2009 
from mpix.com. Those seemed to be different from the metallic paper that

is presently available for inkjet printers (dye or pigment).
What was that technology?


Thanks in advance,

Igor


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OT - mesmerising "moving pictures" {NSFW}

2015-11-19 Thread Igor PDML-StR


NB: Some images on the pages referenced here are NSFW.

No these are not movies.
This is not quite photography, but an art that uses photography as 
... I am not sure what: [raw] material? foundation? building blocks? ...
you can read the description e.g. at this H.P. page:
OT - mesmerising "moving pictures"
(But at least in my browser, the images on this page are getting stuck,
so, I'd recommend watching the images on this page:
http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/5397786/post375846267/

Besides, this latter page has many more images, some of which are very 
interesting.



I think some people here might enjoy this work. (But I also wouldn't 
be surprised if some people totally disliked it.)
In any case, it might be interesting just for the technique (approach) 
itself. (Yes, I know animated gifs are old... I am not talking about

just animated gifs.)

Igor

PS. These images reminded me of the photos in the newspaper in Harry 
Potter books.


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Has anybody used "silky" type of paper?

2015-11-19 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Hi All!

I just came across some papers that have "silky" finish.
(It is offered at some print shop that I am considering to use, but it is 
in a far-away city.)

Here is an example of such a paper:
http://www.inkpresspaper.com/profiles.asp?PaperID=39

Note that this seems to be different from "silk coating" (about which I 
hadn't heard either until today: 
http://photography.tutsplus.com/articles/quick-tip-understanding-printing-paper-types--photo-6654

(Scroll down about 2/3 of the page.)


Has anybody here used this "silky" type of paper?
If yes, - what's you impression?

Thank you,

Igor


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Re: OT - a tech WTF?? moment viewing Godfrey's flikker page

2015-11-18 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Ann,

This is likely some sort of corruption of the information.

It might be a glitch in your browser, but it might also be an indication 
that you have some "weak" bit in the computer's memory (main RAM or RAM 
used by the video card; those could be shared, depending on your 
computer's hardware).


You don't need to do anything at this point. (And most likely you cannot 
do much about that.) But if you see something similar repeating, I'd 
suggest de-maximizing the browser window (so that it doesn't take the 
entire screen, but just a portion). If those lines will remain through the 
area not covered by the browser, it is likely a problem with the memory 
used by the video-card.
Otherwise, it is either a glitch in the browser or a problem with the main 
RAM.


That might be helpful for you to know what is the likely culprit if/when 
the computer fails in the future.



Igor


ann sanfedele Wed, 18 Nov 2015 08:50:04 -0800 wrote:

while viewing that GESO he jsut sent us, this weirdness happened... it 
alsochanged... lines moved around...etc..



At first I thought it must be something set up to prevent image pilfering 
- can't be just my computer


as it only happens on that page on flikker.. hmmm


https://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/Stuff-to-show-PDML-for-various/n-vWHWf/i-nvNTpd7/A

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PESO -- Caption Contest

2015-11-15 Thread Igor PDML-StR


"Trick or treat?!"
Or "out of season".


This photo reminded  me of an old question why programmers mix Halloween 
and Christmas.

Because oct(31)=dec(25).




Igor

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PESO - What's in the color?

2015-11-11 Thread Igor PDML-StR



I had a brief moment today to experiment with a photo taken this morning.
(I tried something similar back in April.)

Initially, I thought of this:
http://42graphy.org/misc/Rose/_IR28909-4.jpg

But then this happened:
http://42graphy.org/misc/Rose/_IR28909-3.jpg
(And my daughter liked this one the most.)


All comments and suggestions are welcome.

Igor

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Re: My Wife, Marlene

2015-11-11 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Paul,

My deepest condolences to you and your family!

That photo is a great memory of Marlene. It is emanating bright light.
Thank you for sharing it.

Igor





On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 7:35 PM, paul stenquist wrote:


As many of you know, my wife, Marlene, succumbed to cancer yesterday in our
home, without the angst of a hostpital environment. She has been my
inspiration and partner for 45 years, and I can.t believe she.s gone. I keep
thinking I have to go check on her, but then remember she.s no longer here.
Her passing was peaceful and apparently painless and for that I am eternally
grateful. Kudos to the doctors at Karmanos Cancer Center and Angela Hospice.
The hospice nurses were constantly available and at my side during those last
days. I can.t thank them enough.

This is my favorite photo of her. She was 23 years old here and just 

bubbling

over with life.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17112934&size=lg

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Re: PESO ~ Portrait of a self-portrait

2015-11-10 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Bruce,

That's a nice shot... This point of view creates some suspense:
The the way she is positioned, what she is looking at...
Being pictured against the white cold-looking floor (table?) creates the 
contrast with how hot she looks. The extended black bellows just 
sprung into the action That's such a sexy camera!..


The lady is fine.

:-D

Igor





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Molly Fassbender has a fascination with self-portraits, so I brought
my little collection of vintage cameras along to our shoot last
Thursday.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/22923705145/lightbox/

645Z, DFA645 90mm f:2.8 Macro, f:11, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO, handheld.

One light: Buff 86" extreme silver PLM boomed directly overhead.

Model: Molly Fassbender
Hair & makeup: Judi Willrich

Comments welcome, as always!

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Re: PESO - Self Portrait of a Confused Photographer

2015-11-10 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Bulent,

It looks like you are having lots of fun!

Judging from your self-portrait, I'd say
"you've been thinking outside the box".
:-)

And don't listen to your enemies: you are not square!
;-)

Cheers!

Igor


On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Bulent Celasun wrote:


I may call it a figurative abstract, to make it still more confusing!

Anyway, consider it untitled, if you like!

Pentax 67, 165mm f/2.8 (at f/8), Fomapan ISO 100 film (on tripod).

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18125484


Comments appreciated.


Bulent


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Pricing and Negotiating - interesting take

2015-11-09 Thread Igor PDML-StR



I remember several discussions (here, on PDML) about pricing of the 
photo-work.

So, I thought this would be interesting for PDMLers:
http://aphotoeditor.com/2015/10/21/pricing-and-negotiating-in-store-lifestyle-shoot-for-a-retailer/

For me, it is the logic behind this estimate that is the most interesting 
part.


Igor


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Re: PESO Rover

2015-11-06 Thread Igor PDML-StR



Larry, that's the result of your testing of a smoke? ;-)


Larry Colen Fri, 06 Nov 2015 02:04:24 -0800 wrote:

I was doing a smoke test of my 16-50 when it returned from precision.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/22812387115/in/album-72157658538562674/

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Re: #@!#!^$%@ Computers!!!

2015-11-03 Thread Igor PDML-StR


I fully agree with you.

I know several cases when my colleagues have lost their computers and 
other electronic equipments when the power was coming back up.
That's why I've always been trying, both at home and at work, to unplug 
all somewhat valuable electric equipment from the outlets when the power 
goes down.


Surge protectors are somewhat helpful as well.

Igor


 Otis C. Wright, Jr. Tue, 03 Nov 2015 20:41:39 -0800 wrote:

After some years of investigating damage attributed to power anomalies 
during power restoration, it is my opinion that here in the USA, it is a 
good idea to leave the power to the computer (and other electric units) 
disconnected/off until power is restored and stabilized. I use drop out 
relays and/or ups systems with computers.



Otis




On 11/3/2015 4:34 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:

 >
Many (most?) desktops since probably late 1990s/early 2000s have an option in 
the BIOS that enables starting upon power loss/detecting power.


I've used this feature for many years with the computer, monitor and other 
related devices all connected to one surge protector. With a flip of a single 
switch you turn on all of them and have the computer booting up.


HTH,

Igor

John Tue, 03 Nov 2015 12:05:42 -0800 wrote:

...
've been bringing network resources up as I need them and finally got around 
to the printer next to the Photoshop computer just now, I found that the 
computer was already switched on. Hadn't noticed it because the monitor was 
still turned off.



Since I didn't switch it on, what did?

...





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Snapchat also uses your photos perpetually (Re: Contracts for pro band photographers.)

2015-11-03 Thread Igor PDML-StR



I am not using it, but here is what Snapchat included with the new terms 
of service:

http://thenextweb.com/apps/2015/10/30/snapchats-new-terms-let-it-store-and-reuse-your-photos-but-they-arent-scary/

You grant Snapchat a worldwide, perpetual, royalty-free, sublicensable, 
and transferable license to host, store, use, display, reproduce, modify, 
adapt, edit, publish, create derivative works from, publicly perform, 
broadcast, distribute, syndicate, promote, exhibit, and publicly display 
that content in any form and in any and all media or distribution methods 
(now known or later developed).



Given the fact that Snapchat (at least initially) was aimed at "private" 
messaging (or was it messaging privates?), that type of TOS is even more 
disturbing (compared, say, to photohosting services).


Igor



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Re: #@!#!^$%@ Computers!!!

2015-11-03 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Many (most?) desktops since probably late 1990s/early 2000s have an option 
in the BIOS that enables starting upon power loss/detecting power.


I've used this feature for many years with the computer, monitor and other 
related devices all connected to one surge protector. With a flip of a 
single switch you turn on all of them and have the computer booting up.


HTH,

Igor

John Tue, 03 Nov 2015 12:05:42 -0800 wrote:

...
've been bringing network resources up as I need them and finally got 
around to the printer next to the Photoshop computer just now, I found 
that the computer was already switched on. Hadn't noticed it because the 
monitor was still turned off.



Since I didn't switch it on, what did?

...



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Re: Warning for Mac users with Old PhotoShop versions

2015-11-03 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Dave,

Just in case you want to upgrade, you can still do that for free for
yet another old (but newer than yours) version, - CS2:
http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/how-to-get-photoshop-for-free/

I believe it still works... (YMMV)

Igor


David J Brooks Sat, 31 Oct 2015 07:00:31 -0700 wrote:

I'm still using CS .:-)

Dave

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Re: Contracts for pro band photographers.

2015-11-03 Thread Igor PDML-StR



That's an interesting case, thanks for posting, Malcolm!

For those who are not interested in listening to 15 minutes of blubbering,
here is the link to the article in the paper he is talking about:
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/general/2015/07/02/why-were-not-photographing-the-foo-fighters/
inlcuding the letter therein.
And here is the followup:
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/general/2015/07/10/we-couldnt-photograph-the-foo-fighters-heres-what-we-did-instead/

Igor

PS. 6 years ago I encountered somewhat similar ownership demands from the 
organizers of then-annual swing-dance event called "Eastern Balboa 
Championship". Here is the discussion of that at PDML:

http://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg509934.html
Those draconian ownership demands was the reason we decided not to go to 
that event at all.




Malcolm Smith Tue, 03 Nov 2015 08:17:09 -0800

A (fair) bit of swearing but with a message:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwWAW2UW59o



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Re: PESO: Poke

2015-11-02 Thread Igor PDML-StR



Speaking about "organic" bananas,
https://goo.gl/2D8Zdk

(And you might enjoy the entire video clip from the beginning.)

Igor

Daniel J. Matyola Sat, 31 Oct 2015 10:09:41 -0700 wrote:

We just returned from Wegman's our local supermarket.  I almost made a
mistake and purchased "organic" bananas instead of the regular ones.
Luckily, I realized the mistake in time.

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Re: PESO: Poke

2015-11-02 Thread Igor PDML-StR




On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 3:10 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:


No culture that had a choice would have chosen Corn


But some were forced:
http://backstoryradio.org/2013/10/06/corn-diplomacy-and-the-cold-war/

But then that's what politicians do: HFCS, methanol-added gas..


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Re: PESO ~ Facebook-safe

2015-11-02 Thread Igor PDML-StR


!!!

Bruce, thanks for providing good morning loughs. Those are especially 
welcome after 2-hour-sleep work night.

Enjoyed the image and the pun.

It looks like Judi also provided support for the model (to prevent 
her from falling down). :P~


Cheers!

Igor





On 11/2/2015 9:21 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:


I have decided that from now on I will only take Facebook-safe shots
to avoid problems. Here's the first:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/22090708243/lightbox/

Model is Playboy Croatia July 2015 playmate Kristina Jovanovic.
Hair and makeup by my pal Judi Willrich, who also gave me a hand
getting the shot.

645Z, DFA645 55/2.8, f:10, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO.

Comments are always welcome!




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Re: Copyright issues: What if you photograph someone with a copyrighted tattoo?

2015-10-31 Thread Igor PDML-StR



Actually, here is the latest bill that I can find that covers fashion 
design protection:

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/s3523/text
And here is its discussion in Forbes:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/oliverherzfeld/2013/01/03/protecting-fashion-designs/
This bill was meant as a replacement for the 2006 one previously 
referenced by me. As far as I understand, it still has not been enacted 
by the Senate.


It turns out that EU and European countries provide better protection 
for the fashion design:

http://www.cardozoaelj.com/2014/09/19/protecting-fashion-a-comparative-analysis-of-fashion-design-copyright-protection-in-the-u-s-and-europe/
That article discusses several other examples that might be of interest to 
inquisitive minds.


Igor

On Sat, 31 Oct 2015, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




Mark: thanks, that's an interesting article.

Bob: I don't know how it works on your side of the pond, but in the US, 
sculptures in a photo MAY BE and often ARE covered by copyright.

There have been several cases in the past decade or so.
See e.g. this case: 
http://www.sculpture.org/documents/scmag05/may_05/webspecs/grant.shtml

It looks like it is different in Canada:
http://www.photoattorney.com/update-on-lawsuit-against-photographer-for-photo-of-sculpture/

If you read that second reference above, you'll see that you can photograph 
and paint (on your own media! ;-) ) public buildings without copyright 
infringements.


As for clothes, I know much less about that area.
There is much lower level of copyright protection in the fashion design (if 
at all). You can read e.g. this document:

http://copyright.gov/docs/regstat072706.html

HTH,

Igor



Bob W-PDML Sat, 31 Oct 2015 11:38:41 -0700 wrote:

I can't see the difference between photographing someone with tattoos and 
someone wearing clothes that someone else has designed, or a street 
containing buildings and billboards, and tons of other shit that's copyright. 
Sounds to me like a lawyer trying to drum up some spurious business.



B


On 31 Oct 2015, at 18:22, Mark Roberts  wrote:

Some interesting questions arise!
http://improvephotography.com/35091/copyright-nightmare-taking-photos-of-people-with-tattoos/




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Re: Copyright issues: What if you photograph someone with a copyrighted tattoo?

2015-10-31 Thread Igor PDML-StR



Mark: thanks, that's an interesting article.

Bob: I don't know how it works on your side of the pond, but in the US, 
sculptures in a photo MAY BE and often ARE covered by copyright.

There have been several cases in the past decade or so.
See e.g. this case: 
http://www.sculpture.org/documents/scmag05/may_05/webspecs/grant.shtml

It looks like it is different in Canada:
http://www.photoattorney.com/update-on-lawsuit-against-photographer-for-photo-of-sculpture/

If you read that second reference above, you'll see that you can 
photograph and paint (on your own media! ;-) ) public buildings without 
copyright infringements.


As for clothes, I know much less about that area.
There is much lower level of copyright protection in the fashion design 
(if at all). You can read e.g. this document:

http://copyright.gov/docs/regstat072706.html

HTH,

Igor



 Bob W-PDML Sat, 31 Oct 2015 11:38:41 -0700 wrote:

I can't see the difference between photographing someone with tattoos and 
someone wearing clothes that someone else has designed, or a street 
containing buildings and billboards, and tons of other shit that's 
copyright. Sounds to me like a lawyer trying to drum up some spurious 
business.



B


On 31 Oct 2015, at 18:22, Mark Roberts  wrote:

Some interesting questions arise!
http://improvephotography.com/35091/copyright-nightmare-taking-photos-of-people-with-tattoos/


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Re: PESO: Poke

2015-10-29 Thread Igor PDML-StR



On 29 Oct 2015, at 23:39, Bill wrote:


On 10/29/2015 6:26 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 1:04 AM, knarf  wrote:
Nice photo anyway.


Thanks, Frank.

I don't really understand the vegan movement, but then again, you
don't need my understanding or approval.
At least it keeps the price of red meat down a bit.  


Not really, Vegans are competing for food with farm animals.


I recently saw a "grass fed yougurt". So, vegans are also competing 
with yougurt.

:-)

And they drink the blood of dead tomatoes!
;-)

Cheers,

Igor


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Re: PESO: Poke

2015-10-29 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Dan,

Yep, nice poke is very tasty!
Surprisingly, the sushi stand at the local supermarket ("HEB") sells 
"poke". But it is essentially just passable tuna sashimi.


As for things that are similar to this "poke" is the dish that is called 
"[fish] ceviche" in Chile, and especially in Easter Island.
It is different from "Mexican" ceviche, and much closer to what you 
pictured as "poke". That Easter Island ceviche is one of the best dishes 
we've tried there (while the food there is very tasty in general).



Igor



Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


Poke (pronounced POH-kay) is the quintessential Hawaiian dish.  It is
served in most Hawaiian homes and restaurants, and no gathering in
Hawaii would be complete without a few bowls of poke. Poke is
bite-size pieces of raw tuna doused in seasonings, and mixed with
seaweed and Maui onions.



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Re: PESO ~ A portrait in window light

2015-10-29 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Bruce,

I remember seeing this image earlier, - I probably browsed through your 
website. Very nice shot.


One thought that I remember I had back then, and that is sort of lingering 
now: I wonder if the same photo would have worked even better if that 
sweater was not ripped? (Obviously, that would've been a very different

photo.)
There is some dissonance between the glamorous setting/look and that 
ripped, almost-revealing sweater. It's like a tritone in music.



Let me share yet another thought started by association to this photo.
Your warning and responses of others (Dan and Ann) had me thinking that 
the famous painting by Delcroix ("Liberty Leading the People") would be 
considered NSFW.
And yes, I would be careful not to open that painting in the university 
classroom (in a Physics or Materials Science class).


Igor


On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:


This is another shot from my first work with art model Dorrie Mack,
back in May. (It's actually work-safe unless you squint real hard.)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/22533038336/lightbox/

K-3, DA* 55/1.4, f:2.2, 1/100th sec, 100 ISO.

One light source, daylight. I positioned her in the open mouth of a
black v-flat (4x8' sheets of foam core) at right angles to the very
large studio windows.

Comments welcome!


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Re: Fighting enablement - lens choice question

2015-10-29 Thread Igor PDML-StR



Alan,

I don't know if it was just a rhetorical question or not.
Until recently, I had thought that "Limited" designation was limited 
[sic!] to primes lenses. And for the "*" designation zooms had to have 
constant aperture and be parfocal (as opposed to varifocal).
(Of course, those criteria were in addition to the great optical and 
build quality.)


The recent introduction of 20-40 f/2.8-4 lens broke both of those rules.
So, I think both of those designations now mean close to what "reserve" 
means for wines: "We thought we can charge extra for this product, and we 
hope this designation will help the sales".


Also, I thought the lenses had to be fast in their class. But 21mm-f/3.2 
was pushing that criterion as well.


Still, I would be surprised to see any of those designations on a 
f/3.5-5.6 lens.


Also, the 16-85/3.5-5.6 is suspiciously similar in the specs to 
the one from Nikon. By any chance, - do they share the design?

(I.e. is it possible that the lens optical design was done by the same
3rd party? I do not see any discussion about that upon a quick search in 
Google.)


Igor


Alan C Wed, 28 Oct 2015 21:26:10 -0700 wrote:

Very erudite reasoning. I also have the 18-55/55-300 combo which gives 
perfectly acceptable results in most circumstances. Although I do have 
other lenses, they are all inferior optically except for the Pentax M 50mm 
1.7 & the Sunactinon A 28mm 2.8. The 16-85 is so highly rated one wonders 
how it missed "limited" or "*" status.



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OT (WAY OT): Entertainment Recommendations

2015-10-29 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Dan,

Thanks for the interesting recommendations. I'd be interested to see that 
Broadway show, but I am not sure how soon I'll get to NYC.


As for your comments about how a profession and professional proceedings 
are presented, - the same can be said about most of professional areas.
First that comes to mind are: computers (in many different aspects and 
applications), space (flights), police investigations (e.g. various 
unreal tests, image enhancements, etc...). And I hear the same from my 
friends doctors about medicine-related shows.


I think it is a trend of the pop-culture/media: "Correct or not, - who 
cares if it sells".
And I'd venture to say, that it is not limited just to the American TV. 
We all remember Roman "panem et circenses" ("bread and circuses").


Igor


Daniel J. Matyola Thu, 29 Oct 2015 06:46:06 -0700 wrote:

This is mostly for the Americans on the list, especially those near
NYC, but I am sure the movie will play abroad as well, if not the
play.


As an attorney, I am embarrassed by the offerings on American TV
these days about lawyers and the law.  IMO, they are all salacious
soap operas that perpetuate gross misunderstanding about the law and
legal process in a democracy.  Theatrically, the constitute a big pile
of crap.

There are, however, two current events that portray legal issues in a
thoughtful way, and are at the same time immensely entertaining:
...

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Re: Fighting enablement - lens choice question

2015-10-29 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Malcolm,

I haven't used any of these lenses, but I was thinking about a similar 
question.
Just in case you haven't seen this review, - it might give you some 
impression of this lens, and answer some technical questions, including 
some comparisons between different lenses in this range:

http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/hd-pentax-da-16-85mm-f35-56/general-image-quality.html
(It is spread over many pages, - this is just one of them, so use the 
arrows to go "left" and "right".)


My lens is 17-70/4. I like it. It is not perfect: it is good at the wide 
end, but becomes less sharp in the 50-70 range.

But I've stopped carrying 18-250 which is more "universal" in favor
of 17-70 which provides better quality for me, and I always have 50-135
for when I need the higher quality for 50+ mm.
I value the extra "17" vs. "18"mm, and the constant f/4 aperture. (f/5.6 
becomes a bit too slow for my needs.)


So, as other people pointed out you'd probably need to figure out what 
your most frequent subjects/scenes demand, and go from there.. 
Alternatively, you might buy just the lens that you _want_ to have. :-)


HTH,

Igor


On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Malcolm Smith wrote:


I have the opportunity to add either an 18-135mm WR lens, or a 16-85mm WR
lens to my collection at a discount.

In the past I would have jumped to add another lens, but as I already have
the 18-55mm WR & 55-300mm WR lenses, I am struggling to see what advantage I
would gain by acquiring either of these. I don't want equipment to sit in
boxes, I want things that will get regular use.

Is there any point in considering either of these, just in case I'm missing
something that makes one worthwhile?

Thanks,

Malcolm




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Re: what do you do with cameras you cannot sell

2015-10-19 Thread Igor PDML-StR


One night, when it's dark and cold, they leave and go to the place where 
old cameras go. They get together and tell stories about ol' good days, 
when they were young and full of film. Once in a while, one of them blinks 
its aperture and they get excited and start all flipping their mirrors. 
... And that strange sound can be heard...



David J Brooks Mon, 19 Oct 2015 08:00:09 -0700 wrote:

I have a bunch of older Nikons that no one seems to want. Any one in
the same boat, what do you do with them, kepp them, scrap them>>
??


Dave

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I need to improve my diagnostic skills

2015-10-18 Thread Igor PDML-StR

Larry, even the Sun has spots...
:-)



Igor

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Re: Pentax DSLR memory card bus speed, theory & practice?

2015-10-16 Thread Igor PDML-StR



Larry,

Some time ago, I was trying to find answers to similar questions.
Unfortunately, Pentax doesn't provide (at least at that point it didn't) 
any specs with respect to this.
So, let me share the most essential bits of information that I was able to 
find (and still remember).


First, a few comments:
1. Note that Speed class (Class 10) specifies only the minimum speed and 
only for WRITING.
2. An additional classification that is somewhat complementary to theses 
classes is the UHS speed classes (UHS-1, and -3)

https://www.sdcard.org/consumers/speed/ .
They specify not only the minimum writing speed, but also the UHS mode of 
the SD bus.


3. Note, that you would benefit from how fast you can READ from the cards, 
both (a) in the camera and (b) in your card reader.


4. Also, note that SDXC, compared to SDHC also defines a difference in the 
file system support (exFAT).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#File_system


So, when I was choosing my cards at the end of 2014 (I have k-5 iiS), but 
I was considering K-3, so, I had it in mind (somewhat).


My conclusion: to have at least Class-10, UHS-1.[*] I don't remember for 
sure if K-5/K-3 support UHS-I mode, but I deemed it to be necessary.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#Transfer_modes

I forgot what I decided was the useful writing speed cut-off (I might not 
have gotten that number). I vaguely remember thinking in the range of 
40-60 MB/s.
(Notice, unlike internet connection speed, it is megabYtes per 
second, hence MB, not Mb)


[ Just in case: https://www.sdcard.org/consumers/speed/ says that
"Speed Class and the UHS Speed Class are not compatible", but that is
an ambiguous statement, as the cards include markings for both.]


In any case, the latest card I bought was 64GB Samsung PRO that is 
labeled: SDXC, I, (1), and Class 10: 
http://www.adorama.com/ISGMBSG64DAM.html .

This card has specs for 90 MB/s - Read, 50 MB/s write.
 I've been using it for 10-11 months, and have no complaints. As a matter 
of fact, within this time I've used my SanDisk cards only once or twice.


Sorry for the lack of solid number, but I HTH,

Igor



Larry Colen Thu, 15 Oct 2015 16:56:29 -0700 wrote:

Does anyone have any specifications for the bus speed for the SD cards in 
our DSLR bodies? Under the rubric of Class 10 cards, different cards are 
sold with different data rates. My recent purchases vary from 40 to 90 
MbPS. The last time I bought cards, boosting speed from 40 to 80 or 90 
cost about as much as going from 32 to 64 GB.



In addition to the speed to transfer the raw files from the buffer to the 
card, there is also the speed to process the raw files, so while the bus 
might in theory be able to handle 120 MbPS, the system might not work any 
faster with a 90M card than with an 80M card.



Has anyone done any specific experimentation on where diminishing returns 
come into play on recent bodies (K-5, K-3 ...)?


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Re: OT - To print or buy ?

2015-10-15 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Larry, Ken, - thanks for the followup information.

Bulent:

Other people have suggested what comes out well on metal (paper or 
aluminum).


My experience with metallic PAPER (and from Larry described, I assume 
prints on aluminum sheets have similar properties) is that glossy works
much better than matte. I am not sure about other 3 types of finish that 
BayPhoto has.


I know that this photo comes out really well;
http://42graphy.org/
Just recently I used this for a birthday card - for the kid who likes 
rainbows:

http://42graphy.org/galleries/2014-08-baikal/1-selected/_IR20662.html
And it looked very well on Epson Metallic glossy paper that I mentioned 
earlier.



Ann: I had used "Metallic Photo-Chrome Pearl" (from Atlex) that also got 
discontinued recently. and then I found the new Epson Metaallic glossy 
which is noticably better.



Igor



On Wed, 14 Oct 2015, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Thank you, Don, for the pointer.

I wasn't aware of that option. I just looked, - and they are indeed very 
pricey. I like some photos how they look on metallic paper, and those 
aluminum sheets look like an interesting option. But at this price, I'd want 
to see how it looks first. So, I'll probably hold off until I can get to some 
print shop that has them to show (which might not happen any time soon, 
unfortunately).


I just managed to find a shop in Houston that presumably does this type of 
prints. "Presumably" is because they don't have the price list on their 
website ( http://www.akerimaging.com/ ). But I called them, and they 
confirmed. I will try to stop by when I am in Houston on a weekday to look at 
the samples.


Igor




Donald Guthrie Tue, 13 Oct 2015 13:07:59 -0700 wrote:

Thanks. Yes I will hunt some down maybe from Red River as Paul S mentions in 
another reply. I was referring to larger prints on sheets of aluminum. They 
are pricey but come with a hanger and require no other framing, mitigating 
cost somewhat. With the right subject and lighting they can be quite 
attractive.




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Re: OT - To print or buy ?

2015-10-14 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Thank you, Don, for the pointer.

I wasn't aware of that option. I just looked, - and they are indeed very 
pricey. I like some photos how they look on metallic paper, and those 
aluminum sheets look like an interesting option. But at this price, I'd 
want to see how it looks first. So, I'll probably hold off until I can get 
to some print shop that has them to show (which might not happen any time 
soon, unfortunately).


 I just managed to find a shop in Houston that presumably does this 
type of prints. "Presumably" is because they don't have the price list on 
their website ( http://www.akerimaging.com/ ). But I called them, and they 
confirmed. I will try to stop by when I am in Houston on a weekday to look 
at the samples.


Igor




 Donald Guthrie Tue, 13 Oct 2015 13:07:59 -0700 wrote:

Thanks. Yes I will hunt some down maybe from Red River as Paul S mentions 
in another reply. I was referring to larger prints on sheets of aluminum. 
They are pricey but come with a hanger and require no other framing, 
mitigating cost somewhat. With the right subject and lighting they can be 
quite attractive.


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Stunning wildlife photos

2015-10-14 Thread Igor PDML-StR
I suspect some pdmlers might have seen these already. Some impressive 
photos here:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-34520185

Igor

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Re: OT - To print or buy ?

2015-10-13 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Larry,

Although I haven't tried Walgreens for several years, previously, I had 
established that Walmart's 1-hour (!) service provides much better 
quality. That was the case during the film era, and it was the case in the 
digital age.
But it is important that it is the 1-hour service, which is done in-store. 
The other, non-1-hour service is done elsewhere, and it is not as good (at 
least that used to be the case, - it's been years since I've tried).


HTH,

Igor


 Larry Colen Mon, 12 Oct 2015 21:01:03 -0700 wrote:

A couple months ago I wanted to send Mom some prints of my meteor photos 
from the Pleidies. Since Mom is deathly allergic to learning anything 
about computers, if I want to show her any of my photos, I have to send 
her prints. Unfortunately, after the people who run the costcophotocenter 
website were hacked, the site was down for a bit while they addressed 
security concerns. It turned out that while Costco is cheaper if I pick up 
prints rather than getting them mailed, if you're going to mail prints to 
someone, then Walgreen's is cheaper.


I know nothing about the quality, but I assume that it is good enough for 
sending snapshots to friends and relatives.


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Re: OT - To print or buy ?

2015-10-13 Thread Igor PDML-StR



Don,

Just in case: you can print on metallic paper with your Epson printer.
I've used a few different papers, - but most recently I tried this one 
by Epson and liked it:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?N=11048608

Igor


 Donald Guthrie Tue, 13 Oct 2015 08:19:07 -0700 wrote:

I am interested in your findings. I print more in the winter and it is 
time to buy supplies for the Epson. I don't know if I can break the habit 
because it is my last link to film days when I developed the film and 
printed in the darkroom. Sometimes I think I am only making proofs for the 
ones I want to send out for enlargement or metal prints.


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Re: OT - To print or buy ?

2015-10-12 Thread Igor PDML-StR



Ken, thanks for the pointer. I don't remember hearing about Bayphoto.


For the small sizes, 4x6, and probably 5x7, ordering it from almost any 
[reasonable] print shop is cheaper. For the larger sizes, depending on the 
prices and amounts, it can go either way.


But for me, there is one big factor of having a printer at home: 
convenience.
I know that I can quickly put together and print a birthday card for a 
friend in the morning, before going to a party.
I haven't checked recently, probably it is no longer the case, but it used 
to be that not all print shops would have some specialty paper (or it 
would be unreasonably expensive), - e.g. metallic or canvas.


But even having a printer at home (Epson R2880), I place some orders to a 
print shop. E.g. recently, I had a bunch of invitation cards printed at 
Walmart's 1-hour shop. Yet another convenience of using Walmart's 1-hour 
shop is that I can submit it to be printed at the Walmart near my 
relatives across the country, and they can pick up those photos there.

At some point, I ordered photos @Mpix.om to be shipped to other people.


I'd share a small hint for those who have printers:
I discovered a source of _very_ cheap paper that one can use as a sort of 
"scratch" photo paper: Dollar Tree (in the US) sells some generic gloss 
paper: 20-pack of 4"x6" for $1 or 8-pack of Letter size (8.5"x11") for the 
same $1. It's lightweight, only 9 mil., but it is suitable for some 
non-demanding testing.
The curious fact is that the batches I've seen in the past half a year 
are branded by Polaroid.


Igor



Bruce Walker Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:11:22 -0700 wrote:

I came to that conclusion a few years ago and have avoided ever buying
any printer at all. Between the supplies costs and the regular
maintenance nuisance, an in-house printer ain't worth it. If I printed
a lot, _maybe_.


What I will do someday here is get a colorimeter that can read paper
so I can calibrate my various print houses. Then I know I'll have the
most accurate rendition I can get.


On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Ken Waller wrote:


I was getting ready to start printing 4" X 6" prints off of one of my Epson
printers for 2016 calendars I am in the process of producing,  but I had to
buy some ink & paper.

I've had really good results from Bay Photo & have been pleasantly surprised
at their very reasonable prices on large prints so I checked out their cost
for 4" X 6" prints & found that I couldn't print myself for the cost of
their prints, including postage. With postage, Bay charged me $.30/print.
Using Epson 4" X 6" photo paper would have cost me $.33/print, not even
including the cost of ink! I ordered them last Thursday & they arrived this
afternoon.

While I like the control I have over my in house printing, I've given
nothing up by having Bay do the work for me. I sent them the highest res
jpegs I could, after I had perfected the images thru Photoshop. I requested
no changes from Bay and the results are every bit as good as I have gotten
in house in the past with out my time to sit by the printer and feed paper
to the machine.

Just thought others might be interested in my findings.



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Re: An enjoyable day and now I understand the appeal of superzooms...

2015-10-12 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Darren,

I don't know if you'd thought of it or not: if the effective focal length 
is 2000 mm, and the crop factor is 5.64 (per Bipin), - than the actual 
focal length of that glass is about 355 mm. So, that's shorter than your 
500 mm (which is equivalent to 750 mm on the Pentax body).

So, the glass focal length by itself is not the factor there.
And BTW, your "disadvantage" with K-3 is not 2000/500=4, but only 
2000/750=2.67.



Now, the ratio of the crop factors 5.64/1.5 = 3.76. That, divided by Sqrt 
(24 MP / 16 MP) = 1.5 (assuming K3) gives us about 3.08. If I didn't make 
some stupid error in my estimates, it means that the linear density of 
the pixels on that P900 is 3 times higher compared to K-3. I.e. the size 
of the pixel is roughly 3-times smaller (so, that's one of the 
resolution-limiting factors when you make a tight crop on a larger 
sensor). Of course, this matters only when the optics doesn't limit the 
resolution first.
I don't know what's the optics resolution for P900, especially at the 
longer end which is typically showing worse performance than the 
short-end and mid-range of the superzooms. So, I don't know what is the 
ultimate resolution limiting factor in this case.


Correction:
I just checked and 1/2.3" inch sensor actually has a crop factor of 5.2
( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crop_factor ). 5.64 crop factor is
fot the smallest sensor that is 1/2.5".
So, for P900 sensor, the linear pixel density is about 2.84 that of K-3, 
and the actual focal length is about 385 mm.

You draw your own conclusions.

That's all about stills. For the video, that you reference, - you are not 
using the full resolution of the sensor. I don't know the actual 
technique, but I assume it averages the adjacent pixels. So, for the
video, the advantage of P900 would be because you cannot define the crop 
while shooting video in K-3 (I have K-5 iiS, but I from what I know K-3 
is the same).


Yes, the light-weight remains an advantage.

I hope these considerations are helpful.

Igor


Darren Addy Sun, 11 Oct 2015 19:11:09 -0700 wrote:

To finish my thought... my sister and I both had zooms with a 500mm
long end. The Nikon Coolpix P900 would bring things 4x as close, with
a lot less weight. Nikon sort of blew away the field with the 83x of
the P900. Even Nikon Coolpix forum members are getting sick of people
raving about it.


On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 8:34 PM, Darren Addy  
wrote:

Different tools for different purposes...

Spent an enjoyable day with my Nikon shooting birding sister. We
started the day in a Crane Trust blind before sunrise and ended at
Rowe Sanctuary near Gibbon, NE which is a great facility.

My sister is amazing at seeing birds where I'm obivious. It was great
"exercise" for me and a got a few keepers (but nothing special). We
had a pair of coyotes come into frame while shooting Great Blue Herons
on the Platte River. Unfortunately, on the opposite shore.

A middle morning visit to Fort Kearny turned up little, but good
exercise trying to capture fast-moving Ruby Throated Kinglets eating
the last elderberries on a bush/tree. Also a single cormorant keeping
his distance in the Platte River. Later, on the way to Rowe we had a
photogenic posing adult Osprey and an immature Bald Eagle enjoying
lunch at the top of a tall power pole. At Rowe we discovered some
deluxe blinds on the river and a tall above the trees blind, open to
the public (Filed for future use.) We also got a distant shot of a
Kingfisher, some black terns and our closest view of a Great Blue
Heron in the river.

Used multiple techniques (AF, MF, etc.) and learned a lot. I certainly
see the appeal of the superzooms like the Nikon P900 with its 2000mm
equiv (search YouTube for HD video from it). With the K-3 and an
extreme crop I"m only using a fraction of the sensor anyway... plus
the lightness of the P900 would be a real plus.Unfortunately, no
RAW... JPEG only... but still...



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Re: I was wondering ...

2015-10-09 Thread Igor PDML-StR



Larry, I've had that hypothesis (in the back of my mind) for a while.
Your question made me thinking in more detail about it.

On one hand the argument for why that should be possible is as follows:
 If the noise is due to the statistical uncertainty (Sqrt(N)) for the 
number of counts (N) on the detector (pixel in this case), and the number 
of counts scales with the area of the single detector (pixel), then by 
combining the output of the equivalent number of the detectors (or more 
exactly, areal coverage), we should obtain a comparable level of the 
noise to that of a large detector of the same area.
(For simplicity, let's neglect for now the "wasted" area between the 
smaller pixels that is not occupied by the pixel.)


However, that doesn't cover other (numerous) sources of noise that scale
differently (or even don't scale at all) with the sensor size.
Dissertations are written on very careful analysis of those.
(If you are interested, - look e.g. at these class notes:
https://classes.yale.edu/04-05/enas627b/lectures/EENG427l09bnoise.pdf )

But I can think of two "phenomenological" examples that demonstrate
why the sum of smaller sensors might not be as good as a single large one.

 1. A smaller sensor might require a fundamentally different design, 
which, in turn, produces a different level of noise (e.g. CMOS vs CCD).


 2. If noise is generated at the boundary of the sensor. (This could be 
relevant for very high-density/small pixel size sensors)
Then the combined boundary length (circumference) of the M smaller pixels 
covering the same area as one large pixel will be Sqrt(M) times larger 
then that of that single large pixel.


I am not sure if this type of "boundary" noise is actually 
happening/important in today's sensors. It might be that this type of 
effects are only relevant for much smaller (e.g. 
double-digit-nanometer-scale electronics) devices.


But in any case, - different scaling of different types of noise (noise 
sources) and different relative contribution from different sources at 
different pixel sizes can create the situation when you might not get a 
low-light-level noise from the combined pixels of a high-pixel-density 
camera sensor as low as you would get it from an equivalent-pixel-count 
lower-pixel-density camera sensor.


Igor



Larry Colen Fri, 09 Oct 2015 14:10:38 -0700 wrote:

That being said, I don't understand why with a bit of math a 42 MP sensor 
could not put out 12 MP files with the same noise and DR as the 12 MP 
sensor. My feeling is that you could probably come pretty close to the 
noise of the 12 MP sensor, while still retaining most of the resolution of 
the 12 MP sensor, particularly for high contrast edges.


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Re: PUG Themes for 2016

2015-10-08 Thread Igor PDML-StR


That's a fair point. (And that's one of the reasons why I cannot watch 
most sitcoms -- all that use the forced background "laughter".


But at the same time, aren't all cuttens absolute? ;-)

Cheers,

Igor


On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 10:00 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:


Yeah yeah --
Make fun,... but seriously - I think those adjectives should be applied by
the viewer after they look at a photo, since
those things (funny, cute) especially (along with Butt-ugly) are so much a
matter of personal taste- in a group such as ours with
widely different backgrounds - spanning ages and countries and ethnicityit
just seems like a bad idea.

and of course I'm happy when viewers " get the joke" in my photos, but not
if they are told they are supposed to smile or laugh.

Good morning everyone!

now I'm off to feed the cute kitty for my friend...

ann



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Re: PUG Themes for 2016

2015-10-08 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Can a copy machine [aka xerox] made by Ricoh be considered a Pentax 
camera?




Jack Davis Thu, 08 Oct 2015 09:57:12 -0700 wrote:

I'd like to avoid the predictable bunch of ugly butts!

J

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Re: PUG Themes for 2016

2015-10-07 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Ann,
Ghm... you prefer "nonhumourous" and "uncute"? ;-)
It's interesting that I had exactly the same reaction about the song one..

Brian,
I appreciated the sequence (proximity) of some of the proposed themes,
so I thought of a combined one: "tranquility at rush hour".
And in a similar manner, when I mistook "shed" for "shadow", I thought of
"shadow reflection".

On a serious note, - I seriously propose "serious" as a serious topic.
And, if the combinations are not accepted, - I suggest "shadow" (not 
"shadows"!)


Best,

Igor


 ann sanfedele Wed, 07 Oct 2015 16:41:17 -0700 wrote:

I liked the challenge of World photo day - I just wish it were not in
the middle of the summer.

It was 2012 that we did the music thing?  good grief, where has the time
gone?

Spare me the evaluative adjectives (humorous, cute) as subject matter
please.

But subjects like "wind" that have multiple meanings are fun, although it
was a tough one for me... guess I'm distracted.

ann



On 10/7/2015 7:00 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

Some suggested themes for 2016:

* World Photo Day - this one was popular this year - worth doing again?
* Songlines - Pick a Song or Piece of Music and make a photo to suit.
We did this in 2012 - worth doing again?  See here:
http://pug.komkon.org/12jun/index.html
* Golden Hour
* This Sporting Life
* In Silhouette
* Humorous
* A Fork in the Road
* Beyond Reach
* Black and white
* Cute
* Gathering
* Iconic Places
* Hands
* History
* Hot
* Leaves
* Sheds
* Reflection
* Peace
* Rush Hour
* Tranquillity
* Up

Let me know if any of those appeal (or not) and feel free to suggest
others.


Cheers

Brian


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Re: PESO - Ground Spider

2015-10-07 Thread Igor PDML-StR
Mark, on the phone, I couldn't see "open in a new window ". It was too 
small. Catch 22.

:)

Igor

Sent from mobile phone

Mark C Tue, 06 Oct 2015 19:29:41 -0700 wrote:

Thanks Igor! If you tap on the image on you phone it will expand, and if 
you then tap on "open in a new window" you will get a zoomable file. Not 
ideal, I know.



On October 6, 2015 9:21:36 PM Igor PDML-StR  wrote:


"Look into my eyes!..."

That's what started playing in my head once I looked at this furry
creature on my laptop.
(I had problems viewing it on my Android, as the website does't allow to
zoom in.)

Very elaborate photo!
I enjoyed it as always!

Igor



Mark C Tue, 06 Oct 2015 10:01:31 -0700 wrote:

If spiders bother you don't look:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/ground-spider-1


K-3, reverse mounted K 24mm f3.5. 135 stacked images.



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Re: October PUGgery now up!!

2015-10-07 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Don,

The topic of the next PUG reminded me of this:
https://goo.gl/Xo7Vc2

BTW, that's a piano, not a guitar in Rick's photo.

Rick, - I greatly enjoyed your original interpretation of the theme.

Cheers,

Igor

Donald Guthrie Wed, 07 Oct 2015 08:59:51 -0700 wrote:

Gosh I thought the group did a great job with a tough concept. Two 
windmills were obvious but well done with my nod going to Dan for making a 
rather ugly subject into a rather beautiful one. Pat T had a subtle sail 
boat & Ken dramatic windy sea. Theme wise Darren's storm might be the 
best. But Ann's barren treeless landscape has a haunting beauty. Bending 
the topic Rick's guitar Alan's elephant en passant gave me pause and 
smile. Frankly not a clinker in the bunch. Now what the heck is next 
month's theme.


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Re: PESO - Ground Spider

2015-10-06 Thread Igor PDML-StR


"Look into my eyes!..."

That's what started playing in my head once I looked at this furry 
creature on my laptop.
(I had problems viewing it on my Android, as the website does't allow to 
zoom in.)


Very elaborate photo!
I enjoyed it as always!

Igor



Mark C Tue, 06 Oct 2015 10:01:31 -0700 wrote:

If spiders bother you don't look:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/ground-spider-1


K-3, reverse mounted K 24mm f3.5. 135 stacked images.

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Re: Peso - another flower for testing :-)

2015-10-06 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Ann,

I like the combination of colors.
I had not notice the "shadow"y thingies (leaves?) at the bottom right that 
Jack has mentioned, - until I read his message. They are there, and it 
would've been better if they weren't. But they aren't distracting.


What bothers my eyes is the softness of the central flower (stem and 
blossom). More than once, I've had a similar problem with my own photos of 
flowers, every time ending with leaving the photo aside. I know some 
people aren't disturbed by this. Sorry...


Igor


On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 7:48 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:


might as well send a link - I haven't seen a post on PDML since last night

https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2015-and-all-that/i-DjXLDKS/L

ann



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Re: Re: October PUG - Last Call

2015-10-02 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Exactly as Darren said, - you can still submit while the submission form 
has the particular monthly gallery. And it still does...


Just harry up while Brian is still asleep ... :-)

Igor

Darren Addy Fri, 02 Oct 2015 08:58:33 -0700 wrote:

I think you can still submit. By the way, I'll bet you are not the
only one to think in that direction. Imagine we will see some winding
roads, as well.
:)


On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Donald Guthrie  
wrote:

Oops looks like I missed the last call. I had a great picture of my last
stem-winding watch to submit but I will save that for another time.

On 10/1/15 6:32 PM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:


Re: October PUG - Last Call


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RE: Free bird blinds in your area...

2015-10-02 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Dear Elmer J. Fudd,

That's been done by some mighty people.
The photos are here:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/gallery/2012/sep/06/vladimir-putin-flies-crane-russia

:-)

Cheers,

Wabbit B.B.



Bob W Fri, 02 Oct 2015 08:11:45 -0700 wrote:

The best way to shoot ducks is to dress up in a duck suit and float around 
on the local pond. I'm not a big fan of duck photography, but if you can 
send us a picture of yourself so attired, I could change my mind.


Elmer Fudd

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Re: Fwd: Your photo has been selected for photo of the day at Photo.net

2015-10-01 Thread Igor PDML-StR



Cool!
Dan, I liked the image when I saw it earlier, and despite the weather, 
nothing has happened to it since that. :-)


Igor

PS. Many years ago, I was wondering what the number means when a movie 
theater is called e.g. "Windchimes Cinema 18". And then I figured it out.

So, now, I know what "Monarch 12" means. ;-)



Daniel J. Matyola Thu, 01 Oct 2015 05:42:14 -0700 wrote:

-- Forwarded message --
From:  
Date: Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 12:41 AM
Subject: Your photo has been selected for photo of the day at Photo.net
To: danmaty...@gmail.com



Congratulations!  Your photo
(http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18092952) has been chosen by
the Photo.net Elves to be featured as the Photo of the Day for October
2.  This is a distinct honor as Photo.net gets thousands of uploads a
day by notable photographers from all over the world!  Take this
moment to pat yourself on the back for creating a truly wonderful
photograph and we would like to sincerely thank you for sharing it
with us. Each photo of the day will be featured on the Photo.net home
page as well as our social media outlets! There are many more very
exciting updates coming to photo.net in the coming months, so keep up
the terrific work, stay active on photo.net and once again
congratulations!

Sincerely,

Glenn Palm
General Manager - Photo.net


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Re: October PUG - Last Call

2015-10-01 Thread Igor PDML-StR



On Thu, 01 Oct 2015 11:45:11 +1000 Brian Walters wrote:


A few people have been quick off the mark this month - 7 to be exact
(and there's even a very early one for December!)

I'll be putting this one out to pasture on Friday evening, Sydney time.

Theme: Wind



The server logs show only 10 submissions so far, it looks like
some PDMLers are passing Wind.
;-)


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Re: October PUG - Last Call

2015-10-01 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Jan,

I see in the server logs that your submission happened
on Sun Sep 27 08:56 2015 (EDT). A confirmation e-mail to you was sent at 
08:57.
A somewhat strange thing is that it was passed to and accepted by the 
server mail.b-io.co [23.23.149.79] .

I see that that server is in the Amazon cloud, and it doesn't match
any of the 4 MX servers currently listed for dfsee.com .
I suspect that the DNS records have changed since Sunday.
Otherwise, there might be something malicious about someone messing up 
with your DNS records.



I hope this helps.

Igor


Jan van Wijk Thu, 01 Oct 2015 03:21:07 -0700 wrote:

Hi Brian,

On Thu, 01 Oct 2015 11:45:11 +1000 Brian Walters wrote:


A few people have been quick off the mark this month - 7 to be exact
(and there's even a very early one for December!)

I'll be putting this one out to pasture on Friday evening, Sydney time.

Theme: Wind



Did you receive mine ?
(pen...@dfsee.com)

I never received the confirmation email, but that is probably due to 
problems

on my side.
(I did get the confirmation on the WEB page)

There have been some problems at my ISP/registrar so my 'dfsee.com'
domain has been out of order for a few days, making me miss some email ...

Regards, JvW

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Re: Good news, I'm an idiot!

2015-09-30 Thread Igor PDML-StR



Larry,

There was a Russian TV cartoon for kids:

One of the characters, a cat, who is mad at and refuses to speak to his 
housemate, dog,asks the postmaster who visits their house to pass a 
telegram "You are an idiot!". But then he finds out that a congratulatory
telegram is cheaper, but it has to contain some "congratulatory word". So 
he sends: "Congratulations, you are an idiot!"


I'm glad your problem resolved this easily, even though you missed some 
opportunities. I've had a couple of similar mishaps.


Igor



Larry Colen Wed, 30 Sep 2015 14:45:13 -0700 wrote:


P.J. Alling wrote:

Don't worry Larry, we all knew that. ;-)


I found what I'm good at and work at excelling.



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Re: OT - speaking of bad "cut-n-paste" photoshop jobs

2015-09-30 Thread Igor PDML-StR



HAR!
Steve, I almost bought that... even went back to look at the image again. :-)

Igor


steve harley Wed, 30 Sep 2015 13:11:30 -0700 wrote:

On 2015-09-30 13:10 , Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Mark, I enjoyed your posting of the obvious fake.

I just came across this one (the first photo of the guy):
http://www.lego.com/en-us/ideasproducts/explore/exosuit-story

Never mind that unidentified (by me) celestial object.
(Actually, now I am acurious if it is the Earth in the sky... Is that
Indonesia-Malaysia region or somewhere around Sea of Japan?)

The halo around the hair and even neck is similar to what I see when my
little kid who is still developing fine motor skills, cuts out a picture
with scissors.
It's disappointing when a multi-billion company does such a sloppy job.


the man's head is actually composed of thousands of LEGOs, which accounts
for the jagged edge


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Re: Watermarked pictures for display on the internet.

2015-09-30 Thread Igor PDML-StR



I have almost the same view on watermarking images as what Mark described.
To add some details to what Mark wrote:
1. I allow people using photos with themselves for their person 
non-commercial use (e.g. posting on their facebook page). In that case, 
I'd like people to see who took that photo. What I am thinking about 
adding to my watermark (but haven't don't yet, - maybe will do for 2016) 
-- is to add my website in addition to my name.
2. Indeed, with some possible copyright law changes, - there will/might be 
a clause that is talking about the user of a "stray image" doing a 
reasonable research of the ownership. In the case of a watermark, - it's 
there.


About annoyance factor:
Two years ago, a friend professional photographer took our family photos, 
and shared with us (and allowed me to print those for ourselves and close 
family).  I don't mind to have her signature watermark in the corner
and we even asked for that version (in addition to the one without any). 
It is in a way similar to how artists put a signature on their paintings.


Igor




Mark Roberts Wed, 30 Sep 2015 14:06:08 -0700 wrote:

Malcolm Smith wrote:


With recent discussion about pictures getting taken by unscrupulous
individuals and passed off as their own, or being used in part of an image
etc, what is the view of watermarking images that are posted by folk here?

The views I've read seem to vary; those in the 'no' camp because you should
only be displaying a low res image and that a watermark distracts your eye.
The 'yes' camp are equally persuasive in that it immediately tells someone
that it is owned and who by.

I'm starting to take more pictures again and I think it's about time I had
my own account again somewhere, and I'm trying to work out which way I want
to go with watermarking images. I can't say that looking at those with
watermarks gives me any problems or distracts from what I should be looking
at.

Is there a right or wrong or simply a choice?



My view is that watermarking is not for the purpose of discouraging
infringers but for the benefit of those who come across your images
out of context and want to know who the creator is. (True, you can
accomplish this in metadata but it's amazing how many people don't
know how to look for it.) Accordingly, I watermark all my images, but
in a small and discreet fashion, making it as subtle as possible while
being completely legible.

If someone does steal an image outright, removal of the watermark
works against them in court and can net you extra damages.

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OT - speaking of bad "cut-n-paste" photoshop jobs

2015-09-30 Thread Igor PDML-StR



Mark, I enjoyed your posting of the obvious fake.

I just came across this one (the first photo of the guy):
http://www.lego.com/en-us/ideasproducts/explore/exosuit-story

Never mind that unidentified (by me) celestial object.
(Actually, now I am acurious if it is the Earth in the sky... Is that 
Indonesia-Malaysia region or somewhere around Sea of Japan?)


The halo around the hair and even neck is similar to what I see when my 
little kid who is still developing fine motor skills, cuts out a picture 
with scissors.

It's disappointing when a multi-billion company does such a sloppy job.

Igor



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Re: Peso-Primal Migration

2015-09-30 Thread Igor PDML-StR



Jack,
Sometimes, while explaining physics of recoil to my freshman students in 
mechanics, I draw a gun on the board, saying: "I am not a very good 
artist. I am sure you can draw a gun much better, ... and, being from 
Texas, much faster..."


Having seen this photo, - I wouldn't challenge you to a duel! :-)

I enjoy this shot and the composition. I didn't notice any halos until 
read about them in a comment, but even after that, I don't find them 
disturibing.


The only minor tweak that I would have considered if it were my photo, is 
maybe very slightly cropping at the bottom (something like 1/15th or even 
1/20th of the height), and then on the right to maintain the proportions.

I think that might place the sun in a more "powerful" position.
But I am not even sure about that... I'd try and see if that works, and if 
not, - would leave it as is.


Igor



On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Jack Davis wrote:


I blindly pointed my A*300mm F/2.8
toward the sound and shot a couple frames


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Re: Which is the perfect camera bag

2015-09-28 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Larry,

I encourage you to take a look at Vanguard products.

Since I've first seen Vanguard Up-Rise II line of bags (ironically, in 
Tokyo), I've been pleasantly surprised how thoughtsful design is (for me): 
http://www.vanguardworld.us/photo_video_us/products/camera-bags.html .


I hope you'd be able to take a look at some of those models in one of the 
still remaining stores in the Bay Area.
(Houston stores, err. actually more like the only remaining Houston photo 
stor doesn't carry these bags at this time.)


I have Up-rise 33 (messenger style), and it travelled around the world 
with me, carrying my camera, lenses and laptop.


Here is what I wrote about this line earlier here:
http://pdml.net/pipermail/pdml_pdml.net/2014-July/381524.html

B&H, Amazon, and Adorama carry Vanguard bags.

HTH,

Igor




On Sep 28, 2015, at 1:19 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:


If I cannot get my fastpack 350 replaced under warranty, I'll be needing a
new backpack style camera bag.  I tend to always have mine with me, and so I
use it as my daily use backpack as well, carrying my cellphone, wallet, keys
and other little bits in it as well.


My requirements are:

Outside pockets that work for carrying my wallet, keys and other things I
might need for using it as a daily use backpack.

A fairly large computer pocket. Even if I don't carry a computer I like to
carry a softbox for my speedlight, monopod and other fairly large flat
objects.

Things that I like:
An easy to get to pocket for the camera, without having to open the whole
pack. I like the way the fastpack does this without needing to take off both
shoulder straps.

A good way to strap a tripod to the backpack. (the fastpack lacks this)



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Re: Where should I send my DA* 16-50 for repair

2015-09-28 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Larry,

Bipin gave an interesting idea.

I had one experience with KEH repairing SDM.

I had one used SDM lens purchased in early 2014 from KEH, and the SDM AF 
failed right away. I sent the lens back to KEH and they repaired it within 
a week or two. I don't know what they actually did with it. (Did they 
replace the motor, the chip?)


In the past month, I have had 2-3 occasions when the lens wouldn't start 
focusing when I mount it on the camera, but then, after I turn the ring 
manually (no obstruction, even slightest is felt), - it starts working.

I suspect it's at the verge of failing again.

I have only one other data point for comparison:
The lens where the SDM chip was replaced by CRIS under warranty, hasn't
shown any problem over 3 years since the repair.

In any case, I have too few data points to make any conclusions.
But maybe those are helpful for you.

Igor





Bipin Gupta Mon, 28 Sep 2015 07:18:32 -0700 wrote:

Hello Larry, suggest you try KEH.

I have had some lenses repaired from them, though not SDM related.


Rergards.
Bipin
camp: San Mateo, CA

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Re: The Moon

2015-09-28 Thread Igor PDML-StR



That's a nice catch, Paul!

I envy your opportunity to observe it.
It was cloudy and drizzling all day and throughout the night.

But my biggest disappointment was that I was unable to show the eclipse
to my daughter. The timing would've been perfect: the totality
was starting just before the bed time for her.
Earlier last week, I had explained to her how eclipse happens, showing 
that with a lamp, inflatable globe and a yellow ball (as the moon).


At about 8:20pm (CDT), it started clearing up right above us, and the 
clouds thinned slightly around the moon, to give a hope, but only for less 
than a minute, and it didn't reveal the moon. I kept stepping outside of 
the house to check, but to no avail.


Bummer!

Igor



On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 11:18 PM, paul stenquist wrote:

Kept watching the moon and realized it was a pretty good look. Got a 
camera and lens, went to get my tripod in the office and realized I 
didn't have the tripod food. Said eff it and shot it handheld. Someone 
else will do it right.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18097747


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No eclipse in central TX

2015-09-27 Thread Igor PDML-StR


As they said in Car Talk:
Second Shift Meteorologist  Claudio Vernight.


Igor

Sent from mobile phone




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Re: Ya gotta love Amazon's algorithm...

2015-09-26 Thread Igor PDML-StR



"Well, nobody's perfect!"


Amazon might assign some [slightly] higher weight in their suggestions to 
certain products over some other products (still fitting the same 
relational criteria)  based on other commerical interests. But I don't 
think that Amazon, who is considered one of the champions (if not The 
champion) in the "big data" efforts in the effectiveness of offering 
"related" products, -- would decide to consiously override the 
outcomes of those efforts that easily.




Besides, - after looking at that link below, I am getting a full "line" of 
recommendations from Amazon for exclusively Canon lenses.

So... PJ, - can you guarantee you never ever  looked at any Canon lens?
(e.g. like in this case, - by following a link)?
Or maybe now Amazon has a way of looking in your deep-secret dreams?
Com'on, PJ, come clean! :-)


Igor


Darren Addy Sat, 26 Sep 2015 11:29:14 -0700 wrote:

Interesting. I can't see a rational explanation for that UNLESS Amazon
is now SELLING product placement in "Recommended" based on keywords in
your search/viewing history. If Canon is paying the most for those
keywords, they may get "inexplicable" representation in your search
results.


On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 1:01 PM, P.J. Alling  wrote:

Now I've never bought any Canon centric equipment from Amazon, and I often,
search for Pentax gear to check competitive prices, so what it Amazon's top
recommendation based on my searches and what I've told them?


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NI3BZ5K/ref=pe_851860_150924160_em_1p_0_lm


It looks like a neat lens, affordable and if I could figure out how to 
mount it on my K-5II I'd probably buy one.  But then I could get used 
40mm DA XS from KEH for about the same price.  So, it's used, but at 
least it would mount and focus...


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Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-26 Thread Igor PDML-StR




Stanley Halpin Fri, 25 Sep 2015 12:53:00 -0700 wrote:

I have to disagree with both of you on this point. The 645D and 645Z 
would have had virtually no market as a camera body on its own. It takes 
lenses to complement the body to create a camera .system.. Without 
screw-drive focusing (and thus compatibility with two handfuls of prime 
and zoom FA-series lenses), a buyer would have had only 1 or 2 available 
lenses, and those at a cost that would have doubled the cost of the 645 
digital camera system.  Yeah sure, there are at least as many 645 
A-series lenses out there,



but lenses that are manual-focus only are so last century!

MARK!

And only for the young with good vision. And those aforementioned 
youngsters with good vision are less likely to have the financial 
capacity for a digital 645 camera system. Without backward compatibility 
the Pentax 645 digital bodies would not have happened.



stan


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Re: How'd I miss this

2015-09-26 Thread Igor PDML-StR


P.J.,

I didn't follow when exactly Zeiss stopped the production.
As for the "Veblon good" (which I had to look up that term), - I suspect 
that in case of K-mount lenses, it wasn't the case. And the fact that they 
discountinued those confirms my hypothesis.
As Stan wrote in another thread "lenses that are manual-focus only are so 
last century".

[BTW, - Mark!]
 I suspect that the number of Pentax users who are willing 
to buy non-AF high-end lenses and can afford them is very small.

It is a very small niche of the niche of the niche market.

Igor


 P.J. Alling Fri, 25 Sep 2015 21:41:52 -0700 wrote:

On 9/25/2015 6:42 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


Everybody knows that there will be no more Pentax lenses from Zeiss..
.. and there couldn't be any fewer either...

... but the latter depends how you count the famous K 28/2: Pentax
lens from Zeiss, or Zeiss lens from Pnetax...


On a more serious note, - Mark, you might be right on the money, -
that's quite possible that Zeiss will stop developing (and maybe even
producing) lenses in K-mount. I wouldn't be surprised if those didn't
sell much.



I had thought they had ceased production of ZK lenses sometime in 2010,
and Lo consulting the lesser god Google, was given the word...

http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2010/09/zeiss-to-discontinue-lenses-for-pentax.html

So this is pretty much old news.  It was a bit saddening at the time,
but didn't unduly disturb me.  Zeiss makes a Veblen good, in a lot of
ways.  No one would deny that they make a very good product, no one
would pay that much for it from a different manufacture, well. except
maybe if it had Leica emblazoned on it somewhere.


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Re: How'd I miss this

2015-09-25 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Everybody knows that there will be no more Pentax lenses from Zeiss..
.. and there couldn't be any fewer either...

... but the latter depends how you count the famous K 28/2: Pentax lens 
from Zeiss, or Zeiss lens from Pnetax...



On a more serious note, - Mark, you might be right on the money, - that's 
quite possible that Zeiss will stop developing (and maybe even producing) 
lenses in K-mount. I wouldn't be surprised if those didn't sell much.




Mark C Fri, 25 Sep 2015 10:23:50 -0700 wrote:

Just to be clear - did the Zeiss rep mean no more Zeiss lenses in K mount 
?


On 9/25/2015 10:59 AM, Collin B wrote:

Looks like the DA* 55/1.4 is out of the US lens lineup.
Perhaps they'll bring a digital 85/1.4 back for the full-frame?


Also Zeiss rep told me this summer, and most may know this, that there 
will be no more Pentax lenses.

What's out there is all there will be. So if you like 'em you'll have to get
a used one or some NOS from a dealer.



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Re: GESO - Once upon a morning ...

2015-09-24 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Bruce, (and Cotty).

Yep, I was off by one, starting from #4[5] and ending with #8[9]. (So that 
what I wrote #4 should be #5)

Below are the corrected numbers - I mark the corrected once with [].

Igor

PS. I don't break things, I just notice them.
Don't shoot the messenger. (Unless it's a photo-shoot. ... or your name 
is franK. :-) )



On Thu, 24 Sep 2015, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Bruce,

I second Cotty's summary word by word (even though we probably differ in 
detail).


Being less diplomatic than Cotty, I can give some specifics if you are 
interested. I especially liked 1, [5], 11, 12, even though #11 might look 
somhhwat cliche (or was it your photo that I've seen before? ;-) )

(If those were mine, I would probably try to tone down slightly the window
light reflection from the RHS wall in #[5])

Unless it was a part of some special story, I'd say the toilet in the 
background of #[6],[7] is not as glamorous as the rest.


I like the idea of using reflections in #[7],[8] but it would've been 
better if 
the mirror were cleaner in #8. :-) But I suspect that it may not have

been a planned shot (has it?).


From the entire set, only two are somewhat bothering me:
In #[9], the pose is too static (as in obviously posed). It looks
obvious that 
she was standing in that pose for some time. It is present in some other 
shots, but the frozen muscle strain is not as obvious in those.

Sorry, from the previous discussion, I suspect that it doesn't bother you.

In #10, with that counterlight, - it's an interesting effect, but I wish it 
was softer with that. I don't know how that can be reached.
I am thinking that a "soft" portrait lens (Pentax FA-85) might work for that, 
even though I've never used one. This photo is too softer than a sharp one, 
but just not soft enough for that "creamy" cloud-of-dream look.
I don't know, - maybe some local PS experts (Mark?) know how to enhance that 
in post?


Igor

PS. The website design is weird: clicking on the thumbnail of the "active" 
photo moves the thumbnail tape to the top, and the active photo disappears, 
so you'd have to reload the page and start over. And that's in 4 different 
browsers on Windows. I understand that it is not your website.



Steve Cottrell Thu, 24 Sep 2015 13:09:50 -0700 wrote:

On 24/9/15, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed:


NSFW for mild topless nudity. A baker's dozen shots ...

https://www.zivity.com/models/Araina/photosets/57

These images are from my first shoot with local model Araina Nespiak
in August. Taken in a borrowed conference space in Mississauga.



Great job as usual. Regarding style, some I'm not bothered about but
some are superb. Really really superb.



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Re: GESO - Once upon a morning ...

2015-09-24 Thread Igor PDML-StR


Bruce,

I second Cotty's summary word by word (even though we probably differ in 
detail).


Being less diplomatic than Cotty, I can give some specifics if you are 
interested. I especially liked 1, 4, 11, 12, even though #11 might look 
somhhwat cliche (or was it your photo that I've seen before? ;-) )

(If those were mine, I would probably try to tone down slightly the window
light reflection from the RHS wall in #4)

Unless it was a part of some special story, I'd say the toilet in the 
background of #5,6 is not as glamorous as the rest.


I like the idea of using reflections in #6,7, but it would've been better 
if the mirror were cleaner in #7. :-) But I suspect that it may not have

been a planned shot (has it?).



From the entire set, only two are somewhat bothering me:
In #8, the pose is too static (as in obviously posed). It looks obvious 
that she was standing in that pose for some time. It is present in some 
other shots, but the frozen muscle strain is not as obvious in those.

Sorry, from the previous discussion, I suspect that it doesn't bother you.

In #10, with that counterlight, - it's an interesting effect, but I wish 
it was softer with that. I don't know how that can be reached.
I am thinking that a "soft" portrait lens (Pentax FA-85) might work for 
that, even though I've never used one. 
This photo is too softer than a sharp one, but just not soft enough for 
that "creamy" cloud-of-dream look.
I don't know, - maybe some local PS experts (Mark?) know how to enhance 
that in post?


Igor

PS. The website design is weird: clicking on the thumbnail of the "active" 
photo moves the thumbnail tape to the top, and the active photo 
disappears, so you'd have to reload the page and start over. And that's in 
4 different browsers on Windows. I understand that it is not your website.



Steve Cottrell Thu, 24 Sep 2015 13:09:50 -0700 wrote:

On 24/9/15, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed:


NSFW for mild topless nudity. A baker's dozen shots ...

https://www.zivity.com/models/Araina/photosets/57

These images are from my first shoot with local model Araina Nespiak
in August. Taken in a borrowed conference space in Mississauga.



Great job as usual. Regarding style, some I'm not bothered about but
some are superb. Really really superb.

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Re: Full-frame lens lineup grows

2015-09-24 Thread Igor PDML-StR



Since they kept the line of Limited Primes (as well as other successful 
designs, such as DFA 100/2.8 and 50/2.8 Macros, and some FA primes), - I'd 
asssume, the answer to your question is "Yes".


Igor


John Thu, 24 Sep 2015 10:43:24 -0700 wrote:

Now, I'm wondering if the putative Full-Frame DSLR is even going to have
the drive thingy to focus my legacy AF lenses?

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Cormorant spotting

2015-09-24 Thread Igor PDML-StR



Sorry for referencing this show for the 3rd time in the past two weeks...
I tried to resist the temptation, but it was hard, knowing how much 
PDMLers love the black bird.
Just by coincidence, Tuesday night's show featured a real cormorant 
(besides the pun-dits):

https://goo.gl/tGd1B0

Cheers,

Igor

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Re: Selfies: The death toll (really)

2015-09-23 Thread Igor PDML-StR


You never know, - maybe they are aiming at getting a Darwin award.

Thank you, Mark, I've seen some of those, but I really enjoyed the
last, CATastrophic image.

Igor

Mark Roberts Wed, 23 Sep 2015 09:28:39 -0700 wrote:

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/sep/22/live-grenades-bull-chases-clifftops-selfies-death-toll


This is why you should learn to use Photoshop, so you don't need to do
this stupid stuff for real.


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