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On Oct 22, 2011, at 3:03, Bob W wrote: think about getting a saddle bag rather than a rack panniers. Saddle bags are well out of fashion but they are far more practical than a rack panniers, and much better than using a backpack. I am mystified as to the difference saddle bags and rack panniers. I even googled around a little bit but everything seemed to be lumped in together with no clear differences. Anyone care to school me? --- Sam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Sam L samthegr...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 22, 2011, at 3:03, Bob W wrote: think about getting a saddle bag rather than a rack panniers. Saddle bags are well out of fashion but they are far more practical than a rack panniers, and much better than using a backpack. I am mystified as to the difference saddle bags and rack panniers. I even googled around a little bit but everything seemed to be lumped in together with no clear differences. Anyone care to school me? This is a saddle bag. http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/bags-panniers-and-baskets/ostrich-saddle-bag.html It attaches to the rear of the saddle. They come in a variety of sizes, from large ones like the one shown at the link, to very small and intended to hold only a few tools or a spare tube. This is a pannier. http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/bags-panniers-and-baskets/ostrich-panniers.html They attach to the side of a rack and also come in a variety of sizes. I'm not affiliated with Velo-Orange in any way, but they do have a lot of my money. -- Scott Loveless Camp Hill, PA USA http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ __o _'\,_ (*)/ (*) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 01:39:14PM -0400, Sam L wrote: On Oct 22, 2011, at 3:03, Bob W wrote: think about getting a saddle bag rather than a rack panniers. Saddle bags are well out of fashion but they are far more practical than a rack panniers, and much better than using a backpack. I am mystified as to the difference saddle bags and rack panniers. I even googled around a little bit but everything seemed to be lumped in together with no clear differences. Anyone care to school me? A saddlebag attaches to the (rear of the) saddle. Panniers attach to a framework, usually on either side of the rear wheel. The attachment frame often (but not always) incorporates a flat rack area above the rear wheel. I've got a rack on my bike that's large enough to transport a medium- sized camera bag (which I have to attach with bungee cords), and I also have a pair of removable panniers that can be attached to the rack. Panniers carry the weight lower, and generally have slightly higher capacity than a saddlebag. I bought mine for the occasional trip down to the shops or library, and for somewhere to stick a camera with a medium/long lens attached if I'm pootling around the neighbourhood. If I wanted something for bike-based touring I'd probably want something a bit better than a simple sack-with-a-zip; for one thing, I'd take factors like easy access to contents and wind resistance into account. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Sam L samthegr...@gmail.com wrote: I am mystified as to the difference saddle bags and rack panniers. I even googled around a little bit but everything seemed to be lumped in together with no clear differences. Anyone care to school me? This is a saddle bag. http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/bags-panniers-and-baskets/ostrich-saddle-bag.html It attaches to the rear of the saddle. They come in a variety of sizes, from large ones like the one shown at the link, to very small and intended to hold only a few tools or a spare tube. This is a pannier. http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/bags-panniers-and-baskets/ostrich-panniers.html They attach to the side of a rack and also come in a variety of sizes. Aa. I get it now, and it even makes sense. It's just that I come from a motorcycling background where saddle bags = panniers. Thanks! --- Sam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 10/26/2011 12:51 PM, Sam L wrote: Aa. I get it now, and it even makes sense. It's just that I come from a motorcycling background where saddle bags = panniers. Oddly enough that seems to be the same in the equestrian world. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Oct 26, 2011, at 14:40, John Francis wrote: A saddlebag attaches to the (rear of the) saddle. Panniers attach to a framework, usually on either side of the rear wheel. The attachment frame often (but not always) incorporates a flat rack area above the rear wheel. Or front. You can get racks on the front wheel and attach bags there as well. Hard-core cross-country travelers will have panniers in front AND on the rear. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Oct 21, 2011, at 21:02, Scott Loveless wrote: As for fit, saddle height is pretty damn important. Start here: http://sheldonbrown.com/saddles.html When you're finished with that page, spend the next two weeks reading the rest of his site. Good old Sheldon. The bike world is a dimmer place without him - but as long as someone keeps paying to keep his site up. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Oct 22, 2011, at 3:03, Bob W wrote: think about getting a saddle bag rather than a rack panniers. Saddle bags are well out of fashion but they are far more practical than a rack panniers, and much better than using a backpack. Awful tricky to stuff a laptop into a saddlebag, though. I commute with my bike and wouldn't trade my panniers for just about anything! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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on 2011-10-22 14:10 John Sessoms wrote A quick reference to craigslist setting a max price of $250 and limiting it to those postings that include photos still returns 983 entries. craigslist, with work, will find you all sorts of things at below market; in addition to some of my best lenses (e.g. Sigma EX 100 Macro for $100), a few years ago i found my partner an early 2000s Schwinn Moab for $100; nice mid-range mountain bike, had hardly been used; we just had to act fast and drive to the burbs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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on 2011-10-22 19:38 Larry Colen wrote I have found that it's not nearly so handy having the camera behind me as it would be in bags on the handlebars though. indeed, i would suggest a handlebar bag for cycling with a camera -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Oct 22, 2011, at 8:44 AM, John Francis wrote: Bicycles are, if anything, worse than cameras when it comes to pricing. You're definitely right there. When I've gone shopping for bikes I've always waited for the inevitable pre-season / end-of-season sales. It's not helped by the distribution structure either. The only shop we had here that direct-imported their bikes closed down last year. Sometimes I look at our local auction site to drool over high-end road bikes that people are selling off. I was sorely tempted by a very nice time trial bike the other day, but it would be irresponsible of me to spend that kind of cash at the moment :) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Oct 21, 2011, at 7:39 PM, Bob W wrote: It will be somewhat like this, but a different colour (burgundy) and no logo other than having the engraved name picked out in cream on the ends of the seat stays: http://www.robertscycles.com/audax1.html Looks nice. For a long time I was dreaming about a Llewllyn custom bike but the desire has faded a bit for the time being. A well fitted bike (which doesn't have to be custom made) can make a big difference and if you ride a lot it can help to prevent injury. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Walt Gilbert [...] I looked at racks after I found my tires tonight and thought about picking one up, but just didn't have the money to lay out for it think about getting a saddle bag rather than a rack panniers. Saddle bags are well out of fashion but they are far more practical than a rack panniers, and much better than using a backpack. It never ceases to surprise me how many people are commuting with half empty panniers, carrying all that weight for no reason, and it makes the bike look ugly. Similarly, the number of people carrying loaded backpacks, unbalancing them, making their back sweaty and making the ride unpleasant. A saddlebag puts the weight in just the right place so that the quality of the ride is not affected, and it means the bike, not you, is doing the carrying. Finally, they're also a lot cheaper than a rack pannier set. Carradice is the classic English brand, but there are plenty of others around. after buying some suitable pants so that I don't have to worry about getting my cuffs caught in the chain. The hipsters roll their trouser leg up http://www.rapha.cc/images/gallery/1410-09.jpg B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 10/22/2011 3:03 AM, Bob W wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Walt Gilbert [...] I looked at racks after I found my tires tonight and thought about picking one up, but just didn't have the money to lay out for it think about getting a saddle bag rather than a rack panniers. Saddle bags are well out of fashion but they are far more practical than a rack panniers, and much better than using a backpack. It never ceases to surprise me how many people are commuting with half empty panniers, carrying all that weight for no reason, and it makes the bike look ugly. Similarly, the number of people carrying loaded backpacks, unbalancing them, making their back sweaty and making the ride unpleasant. A saddlebag puts the weight in just the right place so that the quality of the ride is not affected, and it means the bike, not you, is doing the carrying. Finally, they're also a lot cheaper than a rack pannier set. Carradice is the classic English brand, but there are plenty of others around. Saddlebags do sound like a better option for carrying a camera and extra lens or two. I'll look into that. There's a couple of good, locally owned cycle shops in town -- but, they're locally owned mom pop-style places, so they keep traditional 9 - 5, M-F business hours. I'll have to get by there one day this week to see what they have available. My camera bag is a backpack type, though it has extra straps and fasteners that would make it easy to put on a rack -- but, it's a lot bulkier than I really need, since there are only 2 or 3 lenses in my entire kit that I can stand to use anymore. after buying some suitable pants so that I don't have to worry about getting my cuffs caught in the chain. The hipsters roll their trouser leg up http://www.rapha.cc/images/gallery/1410-09.jpg Ha! I actually gave some thought to doing the ol' pinch-roll, but I just can't abide it. :-D Besides, I was due for some comfortable pants anyway. Just about all I own is jeans and pajama pants -- with a pair of dress pants and a suit for emergencies. Thanks for the tips! -- Walt B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Besides, I was due for some comfortable pants anyway. Just about all I own is jeans and pajama pants -- with a pair of dress pants and a suit for emergencies. and there are always bicycle clips of one sort or another for truly retro: http://www.theoldbicycleshowroom.co.uk/brooks-leather-trouser-strap- 645-p.a sp B Now *that's* more my style. I wonder if they have something in Steampunk? get thee to a blacksmith and have some forged. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 4:03 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Walt Gilbert [...] I looked at racks after I found my tires tonight and thought about picking one up, but just didn't have the money to lay out for it think about getting a saddle bag rather than a rack panniers. Saddle bags are well out of fashion but they are far more practical than a rack panniers, and much better than using a backpack. I suggested a rack and basket, though a saddle bag is preferable to a pannier most of the time. Baskets, like this one http://www.flickr.com/photos/todophoto/4598728499/in/photostream/ are cheap and can carry backpacks, camera bags, groceries, all of the above. Carradice bags have become expensive and hard to find in the US. That's a shame, because they're really very nice. -- Scott Loveless Camp Hill, PA USA http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ __o _'\,_ (*)/ (*) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I suggested a rack and basket, though a saddle bag is preferable to a pannier most of the time. Baskets, like this one http://www.flickr.com/photos/todophoto/4598728499/in/photostream/ are cheap and can carry backpacks, camera bags, groceries, all of the above. Carradice bags have become expensive and hard to find in the US. That's a shame, because they're really very nice. on the back of mine here is a Carradice Super-C: http://www.web-options.com/Sunnydene/content/images/large/_8167523.jpg with a bit of judicious packing it can take enough to credit-card tour for any length of time. With a Domke F5-XB strapped to the bars you can also be a photographer. The only thing about photography while touring is that you need to be careful to prop the bike upright when you get off to take a picture, otherwise if you lay it flat stuff may fall out of your bag and be lost. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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A quick reference to craigslist setting a max price of $250 and limiting it to those postings that include photos still returns 983 entries. You might have to take a little exercise weeding through those ads to find one that fits you, but you shouldn't have to spend a lot of money to get a good ride. From: John Francis On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 01:25:52PM -0400, Ken Waller wrote: Along similar lines, I was experiencing neck issues with the riding position of my 1988 Cannondale MTB. Talked to a local Trek dealer and wound up with their 7300 hybrid. Cured the neck issue and put some more fun back into riding. The Cannondale was no slouch in its time but its enlightening to see the progress in bike technology since 1988. Both bikes have aluminum frames and are equipped with reasonably components - not the top of the line but far from junk. Thge shifters on the Trek are about as good as can be while the Cannodale has a less positive shift mechanism. The Trek has front suspension, a cushioning seat post several built in adjustable points while the Cannondale had none of that. The Trek cost $250 less than the Cannondale. Bicycles are, if anything, worse than cameras when it comes to pricing. When I wanted to get in a bit of exercise I decided to explore the cheap options first. For around $300 you can pick up a perfectly decent model (in my case a 21-gear hybrid with front suspension forks, sprung seat, upright riding position, etc.) That's served me well for a few years now - I don't feel a compelling need to go out and spend 5 (or 50) times as much. Sure, it's a bit heavy. But it's helped me remove about 40 lbs of unwanted weight (which puts worrying over a few pounds of bike frame into perspective). About the only change I made was to replace the tyres that came with it (supposedly all-terrain tyres). I found that the minute you took them off-road (even on just hard backwoods dirt trails) those tyres just weren't tough enough; I had three punctures is as many trips. A set of higher-pressure tyres were a lot more puncture-resistant, with the added benefit of being a lot easier to pedal on the roads and bike trails where I do 90% or more of my riding. I've been a bit slack this year - the bike has spent far too much time in the garage. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I've got something very much like this: http://www.about-bicycles.com/bicycle-bags.htm The side bags (panniers) fold up and zip to the main bag. However, when I need to carry more than I can in the trunk, they unzip, clip to the rear rack and I've got a set of instant panniers. I really like it. The bag is big enough to easily carry a fair amount of camera gear. I have found that it's not nearly so handy having the camera behind me as it would be in bags on the handlebars though. On Oct 22, 2011, at 1:03 AM, Bob W wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Walt Gilbert [...] I looked at racks after I found my tires tonight and thought about picking one up, but just didn't have the money to lay out for it think about getting a saddle bag rather than a rack panniers. Saddle bags are well out of fashion but they are far more practical than a rack panniers, and much better than using a backpack. It never ceases to surprise me how many people are commuting with half empty panniers, carrying all that weight for no reason, and it makes the bike look ugly. Similarly, the number of people carrying loaded backpacks, unbalancing them, making their back sweaty and making the ride unpleasant. A saddlebag puts the weight in just the right place so that the quality of the ride is not affected, and it means the bike, not you, is doing the carrying. Finally, they're also a lot cheaper than a rack pannier set. Carradice is the classic English brand, but there are plenty of others around. after buying some suitable pants so that I don't have to worry about getting my cuffs caught in the chain. The hipsters roll their trouser leg up http://www.rapha.cc/images/gallery/1410-09.jpg B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Walt Gilbert 700C -- or, at least the tires are marked as 700x35c -- from what I gather that's a 28(?) In any event, unless you're planning on doing some serious jumping, that should do just fine off road. It has cantilever brakes, nice high handlebars, it might even have a triple crankset, though I get the impression that things aren't too awful steep in your area. Things get steep, but for short distances, generally speaking. It's more of a rolling hill topography, but nothing like what I saw out in your area. Is there any chance it would make reasonable trade-in material for something more suitable for off-road use? If not, I may just go ahead and buy a cheap, used off-road-type bike that's more suited for that kind of use You'd be better off just getting a set of on/off road tires and giving it a try first. Thanks for that advice. I wasn't sure if the bike frame would be suitable for that. It's good to know. The wheels seem pretty narrow, though -- so, I wonder if I might need new rims for off-road tires? it's a type of bike called a hybrid which a number of years ago meant a combination of on off-road features. The one I have at the moment is a Marin hybrid from 1994. When I bought it it had 700x35C knobbly tyres and was well suited to off-road riding as well as road riding, although the fat tyres made it slow on the road. Over the years I've changed it to a more roadie configuration, and now I'm having a new bike custom made for light touring. The one you have looks to me as though it would suit your needs very well. Try it out for a few months to get a better idea of what you do and don't like. More important than the tyres and frame geometry is the fit of the bike. If it's the wrong size it doesn't matter what the rest of it is like. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 07:08:20 +0100 Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: and now I'm having a new bike custom made for light touring. if you don't have to kill me to do it, i'd like to know more details please... especially the custom and the touring part. :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Subash and now I'm having a new bike custom made for light touring. if you don't have to kill me to do it, i'd like to know more details please... especially the custom and the touring part. :) I'll try not to kill you. A few weeks ago I went along to see Chas Roberts, had myself measured up, chatted about the requirements and he is making an audax bike for me. He called last week to say the frame is finished and that it had just gone to the paint shop, so I expect in a week or two to get another call to come and collect it. It will be somewhat like this, but a different colour (burgundy) and no logo other than having the engraved name picked out in cream on the ends of the seat stays: http://www.robertscycles.com/audax1.html The frame is Reynolds 853. The forks are 531. Handbuilt wheels 700x25C. A mix of Campag and Shimano componentry. Road triple (26/36/48), 11-32 9-speed on the back, which makes a nice set of touring gears and for commuting keeps me on the same chainring all the time - it's very similar to my current gearing (11-28 7-speed) which I'm very happy with. Light touring in my case means long weekends credit card touring with just a small saddlebag, no panniers or crap like that, and holidays in France touring from a fixed centre - cycling from here to a gite. I have some ambitions for much longer tours but they will have to wait until I win the lottery and can afford to spend weeks or months away. And year-round commuting of course. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 10/21/2011 1:08 AM, Bob W wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Walt Gilbert 700C -- or, at least the tires are marked as 700x35c -- from what I gather that's a 28(?) In any event, unless you're planning on doing some serious jumping, that should do just fine off road. It has cantilever brakes, nice high handlebars, it might even have a triple crankset, though I get the impression that things aren't too awful steep in your area. Things get steep, but for short distances, generally speaking. It's more of a rolling hill topography, but nothing like what I saw out in your area. Is there any chance it would make reasonable trade-in material for something more suitable for off-road use? If not, I may just go ahead and buy a cheap, used off-road-type bike that's more suited for that kind of use You'd be better off just getting a set of on/off road tires and giving it a try first. Thanks for that advice. I wasn't sure if the bike frame would be suitable for that. It's good to know. The wheels seem pretty narrow, though -- so, I wonder if I might need new rims for off-road tires? it's a type of bike called a hybrid which a number of years ago meant a combination of on off-road features. The one I have at the moment is a Marin hybrid from 1994. When I bought it it had 700x35C knobbly tyres and was well suited to off-road riding as well as road riding, although the fat tyres made it slow on the road. Over the years I've changed it to a more roadie configuration, and now I'm having a new bike custom made for light touring. The one you have looks to me as though it would suit your needs very well. Try it out for a few months to get a better idea of what you do and don't like. More important than the tyres and frame geometry is the fit of the bike. If it's the wrong size it doesn't matter what the rest of it is like. B Thanks for the input, Bob. The person I got it from was roughly my size -- maybe an inch taller, at the most. I had to adjust the seat down just a bit for a comfortable reach to the pedals, and any other adjustments that may be needed should be well within reach of the setup it has now, as far as I can tell. Being an average-sized (albeit flabby) person does have its advantages. I doubt I'll ever see the day when I have a bike custom made to fit -- and if I ever do, it will be a consequence of some serious lifestyle changes. But, then again, this time last year, the idea of me owning a bike at all was pretty remote. So, you just never know. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 07:39:07 +0100 Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: I'll try not to kill you. no wonder they call you bob the-infinitely- merciful w. :) http://www.robertscycles.com/audax1.html looks nice. does it cost lots to handbuild stuff like that? i had to wikipede what an audax was. I have some ambitions for much longer tours but they will have to wait until I win the lottery and can afford to spend weeks or months away. And year-round commuting of course. i have grand plans too. but it'll all have to wait. it'll be years before i can take a year or more off. meanwhile planning something mildly ambitious for the next year. baby steps... :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 10/21/2011 1:13 AM, Subash wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 07:39:07 +0100 Bob Wp...@web-options.com wrote: I'll try not to kill you. no wonder they call you bob the-infinitely- merciful w. :) http://www.robertscycles.com/audax1.html looks nice. does it cost lots to handbuild stuff like that? i had to wikipede what an audax was. I wonder just how much difference a custom frame really makes, unless you're looking for the last little bit of performance, or have some very specific and unusual needs. On the other hand, once you get to a certain level of quality, where the frames are pretty much hand made anyways, it probably doesn't cost a lot to have them custom fitted. In your part of the world, it's possible that there are some horribly underpaid craftsmen turning out beautiful handmade frames for a fraction of what they'd cost here. Though, more likely, there aren't enough people buying custom frames to support someone. In any case, it's probably worth figuring out what you'd want in a custom frame, then shopping around to see what comes closest. When I bought my doublecross (the one I posted links to photos of) it turns out that through a local shop I was able to get them to build up a bike, with just the parts I wanted and needed, for less than getting one off the shelf from another shop would have been. I specifically wanted a cyclocross frame because I wanted something sturdier and didn't mind a little extra weight on the bike. By the way, I got inline brake handles on the bars and they are wonderful. In addition to having the standard braked down on the drops, I can ride the bike in an upright position and have brakes right there. Very handy for those long, neck cramping, downhills. Now, all I need, is time, and weather, to allow me to ride it. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 01:30:12 -0700 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: In your part of the world, it's possible that there are some horribly underpaid craftsmen turning out beautiful handmade frames for a fraction of what they'd cost here. Though, more likely, there aren't enough people buying custom frames to support someone. i don't think so. until cheap motorised two-wheelers took over in the early 1980s, the cycle was the most popular form of transport for the middle and lower classes. cycling was never a sporting/leisure activity until recently (this year, we had for the very first time an indian completing the RAAM). so it basically went direct from a mass, factory produced utility vehicle to an imported leisure product (bianchi, cannodale and other brands). we never had even a niche market for handbuilt, 'crafted' cycles. In any case, it's probably worth figuring out what you'd want in a custom frame, then shopping around to see what comes closest. i am not really looking to get a custom frame made, just curious what something like that would cost. i am pretty happy with my off-the-shelf cannondale mtb which i use for my long distance road rides too. the only change i have made is use slick tyres for the road rides... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I recently discovered the hybrids. All the versatility of a mountain bike but with the finer features of a road bike. And yoi don't have to bend over a racing handlebar. Mine was a Giant FCR 2. 27-speed. Pushbutton shifting is a joy. Right now, out of season, in the $300-$400 range for a good used one. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Larry Colen I wonder just how much difference a custom frame really makes, unless you're looking for the last little bit of performance, or have some very specific and unusual needs. I think the main purpose is to ensure that every little nook cranny in your pocketbook is thoroughly emptied out. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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LOL !! On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 11:30 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Larry Colen I wonder just how much difference a custom frame really makes, unless you're looking for the last little bit of performance, or have some very specific and unusual needs. I think the main purpose is to ensure that every little nook cranny in your pocketbook is thoroughly emptied out. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Along similar lines, I was experiencing neck issues with the riding position of my 1988 Cannondale MTB. Talked to a local Trek dealer and wound up with their 7300 hybrid. Cured the neck issue and put some more fun back into riding. The Cannondale was no slouch in its time but its enlightening to see the progress in bike technology since 1988. Both bikes have aluminum frames and are equipped with reasonably components - not the top of the line but far from junk. Thge shifters on the Trek are about as good as can be while the Cannodale has a less positive shift mechanism. The Trek has front suspension, a cushioning seat post several built in adjustable points while the Cannondale had none of that. The Trek cost $250 less than the Cannondale. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net Subject: Re: OT: Query for the cyclists I recently discovered the hybrids. All the versatility of a mountain bike but with the finer features of a road bike. And yoi don't have to bend over a racing handlebar. Mine was a Giant FCR 2. 27-speed. Pushbutton shifting is a joy. Right now, out of season, in the $300-$400 range for a good used one. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Subash I'll try not to kill you. no wonder they call you bob the-infinitely- merciful w. :) they call me that because they know I'd kill them otherwise http://www.robertscycles.com/audax1.html looks nice. does it cost lots to handbuild stuff like that? Yes. It's bling. But it's a lot cheaper than a car, cleaner, easier to maintain, keeps me fit and will last a whole lot longer (barring accidents and theft). I bought my current bike 16-17 years ago for £400- and have probably spent about the same amount, maybe a bit more, on maintenance and renovation in that time. So that's about £1.00 a week. i had to wikipede what an audax was. I have some ambitions for much longer tours but they will have to wait until I win the lottery and can afford to spend weeks or months away. And year-round commuting of course. i have grand plans too. but it'll all have to wait. it'll be years before i can take a year or more off. meanwhile planning something mildly ambitious for the next year. baby steps... :) I look forward to hearing about it and seeing the pictures. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen http://www.robertscycles.com/audax1.html looks nice. does it cost lots to handbuild stuff like that? i had to wikipede what an audax was. I wonder just how much difference a custom frame really makes, unless you're looking for the last little bit of performance, or have some very specific and unusual needs. When I was being measured up a couple of other customers were in there to test ride their bikes and came back raving about the difference in the ride quality. I'll let you know my experience when the time comes. I imagine it as being similar to the difference between using something like a Leica M and a functional but low-cost SLR, and equally justifiable (that is, not particularly, but what the hell?). B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 01:25:52PM -0400, Ken Waller wrote: Along similar lines, I was experiencing neck issues with the riding position of my 1988 Cannondale MTB. Talked to a local Trek dealer and wound up with their 7300 hybrid. Cured the neck issue and put some more fun back into riding. The Cannondale was no slouch in its time but its enlightening to see the progress in bike technology since 1988. Both bikes have aluminum frames and are equipped with reasonably components - not the top of the line but far from junk. Thge shifters on the Trek are about as good as can be while the Cannodale has a less positive shift mechanism. The Trek has front suspension, a cushioning seat post several built in adjustable points while the Cannondale had none of that. The Trek cost $250 less than the Cannondale. Bicycles are, if anything, worse than cameras when it comes to pricing. When I wanted to get in a bit of exercise I decided to explore the cheap options first. For around $300 you can pick up a perfectly decent model (in my case a 21-gear hybrid with front suspension forks, sprung seat, upright riding position, etc.) That's served me well for a few years now - I don't feel a compelling need to go out and spend 5 (or 50) times as much. Sure, it's a bit heavy. But it's helped me remove about 40 lbs of unwanted weight (which puts worrying over a few pounds of bike frame into perspective). About the only change I made was to replace the tyres that came with it (supposedly all-terrain tyres). I found that the minute you took them off-road (even on just hard backwoods dirt trails) those tyres just weren't tough enough; I had three punctures is as many trips. A set of higher-pressure tyres were a lot more puncture-resistant, with the added benefit of being a lot easier to pedal on the roads and bike trails where I do 90% or more of my riding. I've been a bit slack this year - the bike has spent far too much time in the garage. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 11:36 PM, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, o hai Well, a friend gave me one tonight. Unfortunately, the last bicycle I ever owned was when I was about 14 years old. Consequently I know exactly jack shit about them these days. It seems like a pretty good bike to me -- especially considering the price. Here's a couple of photos of it. http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa376/WaltGilbert/IMGP3404.jpg http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa376/WaltGilbert/IMGP3396.jpg I was actually looking for something more along the lines of a mountain bike so I can access some of the tougher to reach places off the back roads and such. But this seems like a pretty good road bike. The bike you have is perfectly suitable for paved and gravel roads, rail trails, MUPs and most of the other byways you'll encounter. It's probably not well suited for single track, but I've seen people on carbon fiber road race machines blowing past the guys on double boingers, for what that's worth. I've had good luck with Continental touring/commuting tires. They seem to excel in the durability and utility arenas. Based on your cantilever brakes and shifters, I'd guess your bike is early 90s vintage. One one hand, it basically has no dollar value to speak of. On the other, it's modern enough that replacement parts, if needed, can be found at any bike shop. If I were going to use this bicycle for transportation I'd add a few things to it. Fenders, a rack and basket, and a battery operated headlight, at the very least. Check your State's bicycle laws concerning lights. All of them require a headlight after dark. Some only require a rear reflector, while other require a taillight. All of these don't have to be expensive. If there's not a local shop that sells this stuff, or if you'd rather not deal with them, there are plenty of online retailers that carry this stuff. I'd be happy to point you in the right direction. As for fit, saddle height is pretty damn important. Start here: http://sheldonbrown.com/saddles.html When you're finished with that page, spend the next two weeks reading the rest of his site. Lemme know if you have any questions. -- Scott Loveless Camp Hill, PA USA http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ __o _'\,_ (*)/ (*) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 10/21/2011 9:02 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 11:36 PM, Walt Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, o hai Well, a friend gave me one tonight. Unfortunately, the last bicycle I ever owned was when I was about 14 years old. Consequently I know exactly jack shit about them these days. It seems like a pretty good bike to me -- especially considering the price. Here's a couple of photos of it. http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa376/WaltGilbert/IMGP3404.jpg http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa376/WaltGilbert/IMGP3396.jpg I was actually looking for something more along the lines of a mountain bike so I can access some of the tougher to reach places off the back roads and such. But this seems like a pretty good road bike. The bike you have is perfectly suitable for paved and gravel roads, rail trails, MUPs and most of the other byways you'll encounter. It's probably not well suited for single track, but I've seen people on carbon fiber road race machines blowing past the guys on double boingers, for what that's worth. I've had good luck with Continental touring/commuting tires. They seem to excel in the durability and utility arenas. Based on your cantilever brakes and shifters, I'd guess your bike is early 90s vintage. One one hand, it basically has no dollar value to speak of. On the other, it's modern enough that replacement parts, if needed, can be found at any bike shop. Thanks for the info here, Scott. After my ride today, I figured I didn't have the luxury of time to do any shopping, so I ran out this evening and grabbed the only pair of 700c tires I could lay my hands on in this town -- Bell road bike tires. I just finished putting them on about five minutes ago. They definitely don't have off-road tread, but they do have tread and they're hump free. Since I'm planning to ride the bike to work tomorrow, I figured I probably ought to go ahead and put new ones on tonight. I just wasn't looking forward to another ride on those old flat-spotted tires. If I were going to use this bicycle for transportation I'd add a few things to it. Fenders, a rack and basket, and a battery operated headlight, at the very least. Check your State's bicycle laws concerning lights. All of them require a headlight after dark. Some only require a rear reflector, while other require a taillight. All of these don't have to be expensive. If there's not a local shop that sells this stuff, or if you'd rather not deal with them, there are plenty of online retailers that carry this stuff. I'd be happy to point you in the right direction. I looked at racks after I found my tires tonight and thought about picking one up, but just didn't have the money to lay out for it after buying some suitable pants so that I don't have to worry about getting my cuffs caught in the chain. I do remember that much about riding bikes. ;-) I shouldn't have to ride in the dark anytime in the immediate future, but I'm planning on making a headlight and taillight my next purchase. Everything else is a matter of convenience for the time being. As for fit, saddle height is pretty damn important. Start here: http://sheldonbrown.com/saddles.html When you're finished with that page, spend the next two weeks reading the rest of his site. Lemme know if you have any questions. Thanks for the link. I did some reading at Sheldon Brown last night and I'll bookmark the page you noted. At the moment, I feel as though the bike is a pretty damned good fit, but I'm sure it'll take a little more time to know for sure. Thanks again for all the guidance! I have to say I really did enjoy my ride this evening. It wasn't strenuous or particularly challenging by any means, but I was surprised at the lack of agony after so many year of an essentially sedentary lifestyle, cigarettes, and weight gain. (Not giving up the beer, though!) Now, I'm actually looking forward to getting back on the bike for another ride. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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By the bye -- I probably should have mentioned that it's a 7-speed. And the front gear says EXAGE 300 LX -- don't know if that means anything at all, but it seems like it might be a somewhat important bit of information. Thanks again! -- Walt On 10/20/2011 10:36 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: Hi all, Well, I've been in need of some form of transportation for a while now, and money being scarce as it is, another car hasn't been forthcoming, and depending on others for rides hither and yon has gotten pretty tiresome. And, given the fact that I'm not in the best physical condition of my life, I decided it wouldn't be such a bad idea to get a bike. Well, a friend gave me one tonight. Unfortunately, the last bicycle I ever owned was when I was about 14 years old. Consequently I know exactly jack shit about them these days. It seems like a pretty good bike to me -- especially considering the price. Here's a couple of photos of it. http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa376/WaltGilbert/IMGP3404.jpg http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa376/WaltGilbert/IMGP3396.jpg I was actually looking for something more along the lines of a mountain bike so I can access some of the tougher to reach places off the back roads and such. But this seems like a pretty good road bike. Is there any chance it would make reasonable trade-in material for something more suitable for off-road use? If not, I may just go ahead and buy a cheap, used off-road-type bike that's more suited for that kind of use Thanks for any info anyone can offer. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 10/20/2011 8:36 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: Hi all, Well, I've been in need of some form of transportation for a while now, and money being scarce as it is, another car hasn't been forthcoming, and depending on others for rides hither and yon has gotten pretty tiresome. And, given the fact that I'm not in the best physical condition of my life, I decided it wouldn't be such a bad idea to get a bike. Well, a friend gave me one tonight. Unfortunately, the last bicycle I ever owned was when I was about 14 years old. Consequently I know exactly jack shit about them these days. It seems like a pretty good bike to me -- especially considering the price. Here's a couple of photos of it. http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa376/WaltGilbert/IMGP3404.jpg http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa376/WaltGilbert/IMGP3396.jpg I'll resist the impulse to critique the photos. I was actually looking for something more along the lines of a mountain bike so I can access some of the tougher to reach places off the back roads and such. But this seems like a pretty good road bike. What size are the wheels? 26? 700C? 27? In any event, unless you're planning on doing some serious jumping, that should do just fine off road. It has cantilever brakes, nice high handlebars, it might even have a triple crankset, though I get the impression that things aren't too awful steep in your area. Is there any chance it would make reasonable trade-in material for something more suitable for off-road use? If not, I may just go ahead and buy a cheap, used off-road-type bike that's more suited for that kind of use You'd be better off just getting a set of on/off road tires and giving it a try first. Thanks for any info anyone can offer. -- Walt -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 10/20/2011 10:56 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On 10/20/2011 8:36 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: Hi all, Well, I've been in need of some form of transportation for a while now, and money being scarce as it is, another car hasn't been forthcoming, and depending on others for rides hither and yon has gotten pretty tiresome. And, given the fact that I'm not in the best physical condition of my life, I decided it wouldn't be such a bad idea to get a bike. Well, a friend gave me one tonight. Unfortunately, the last bicycle I ever owned was when I was about 14 years old. Consequently I know exactly jack shit about them these days. It seems like a pretty good bike to me -- especially considering the price. Here's a couple of photos of it. http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa376/WaltGilbert/IMGP3404.jpg http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa376/WaltGilbert/IMGP3396.jpg I'll resist the impulse to critique the photos. Thanks! That is much appreciated. I was actually looking for something more along the lines of a mountain bike so I can access some of the tougher to reach places off the back roads and such. But this seems like a pretty good road bike. What size are the wheels? 26? 700C? 27? 700C -- or, at least the tires are marked as 700x35c -- from what I gather that's a 28(?) In any event, unless you're planning on doing some serious jumping, that should do just fine off road. It has cantilever brakes, nice high handlebars, it might even have a triple crankset, though I get the impression that things aren't too awful steep in your area. Things get steep, but for short distances, generally speaking. It's more of a rolling hill topography, but nothing like what I saw out in your area. Is there any chance it would make reasonable trade-in material for something more suitable for off-road use? If not, I may just go ahead and buy a cheap, used off-road-type bike that's more suited for that kind of use You'd be better off just getting a set of on/off road tires and giving it a try first. Thanks for that advice. I wasn't sure if the bike frame would be suitable for that. It's good to know. The wheels seem pretty narrow, though -- so, I wonder if I might need new rims for off-road tires? Thanks for any info anyone can offer. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 10/20/2011 9:23 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: Is there any chance it would make reasonable trade-in material for something more suitable for off-road use? If not, I may just go ahead and buy a cheap, used off-road-type bike that's more suited for that kind of use You'd be better off just getting a set of on/off road tires and giving it a try first. Thanks for that advice. I wasn't sure if the bike frame would be suitable for that. It's good to know. The wheels seem pretty narrow, though -- so, I wonder if I might need new rims for off-road tires? Do some research on a sport called cyclocross. The season is about to start. I've only ever ridden in one, I threw my back out in it, and before I had a chance to ride in one again, life happened. The problem I ran into was that my shoes didn't have enough grip in the mud for carrying the bike up the hill I couldn't ride up. I don't have much in the way of pictures of the race, but here are some shots of the bike I have for riding in off road races: http://www.red4est.com/lrc/pix/cyclox060129/ These are the tires I have on my dirt rims: http://www.amazon.com/Continental-Double-Fighter-Bicycle-26x1-9/dp/B0025U2NX0 The problem is that tires for dirt are much worse for riding on pavement. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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on 2011-10-20 21:36 Walt Gilbert wrote Well, a friend gave me one tonight. Unfortunately, the last bicycle I ever owned was when I was about 14 years old. Consequently I know exactly jack shit about them these days. It seems like a pretty good bike to me -- especially considering the price. Here's a couple of photos of it. http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa376/WaltGilbert/IMGP3404.jpg http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa376/WaltGilbert/IMGP3396.jpg looks like a fairly average city bike -- upright riding position, workable components, not made to last forever or to ride long distances should do fine on streets and smooth park trails; with a triple up front that's 21 speeds, so you can stroll up hills; fatter tires can absorb bumps better, knobby tires aren't necessary unless you're riding on mud, snow or gravel; can't really tell, but the seat could be the weak point ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 10/21/2011 12:07 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On 10/20/2011 9:23 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: Is there any chance it would make reasonable trade-in material for something more suitable for off-road use? If not, I may just go ahead and buy a cheap, used off-road-type bike that's more suited for that kind of use You'd be better off just getting a set of on/off road tires and giving it a try first. Thanks for that advice. I wasn't sure if the bike frame would be suitable for that. It's good to know. The wheels seem pretty narrow, though -- so, I wonder if I might need new rims for off-road tires? Do some research on a sport called cyclocross. The season is about to start. I've only ever ridden in one, I threw my back out in it, and before I had a chance to ride in one again, life happened. Believe it or not, I've been looking around at cyclocross tires for the past 30 minutes, give or take. They seem like a pretty good compromise between road tires and the knobby BMX-looking tires I had as a kid. The problem I ran into was that my shoes didn't have enough grip in the mud for carrying the bike up the hill I couldn't ride up. I don't have much in the way of pictures of the race, but here are some shots of the bike I have for riding in off road races: http://www.red4est.com/lrc/pix/cyclox060129/ The problem I would have would be the pulled hamstring that prevented me from winding up in full cardiac arrest if I were to try something like that now. You may remember my laboring to climb the hill at the first beach we went to while I was out there. This is going to be a babysteps kind of progression for me at first. I'll stick to pavement and reasonably level trails over the winter, and with any luck will be able to ride moderate distances and somewhat challenging trails by spring. These are the tires I have on my dirt rims: http://www.amazon.com/Continental-Double-Fighter-Bicycle-26x1-9/dp/B0025U2NX0 The problem is that tires for dirt are much worse for riding on pavement. Yeah, I've been reading about rolling resistance a little bit while looking up cyclocross tires. I may hit a local bike shop sometime next week to see if I can get some good brick-and-mortar service and advice. Those Continentals look like they'd be fairly decent all-terrain tires -- though, I guess that's a difficult thing to judge simply by looking at the photo. Thanks for the info! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Query for the cyclists
On 10/21/2011 12:12 AM, steve harley wrote: on 2011-10-20 21:36 Walt Gilbert wrote Well, a friend gave me one tonight. Unfortunately, the last bicycle I ever owned was when I was about 14 years old. Consequently I know exactly jack shit about them these days. It seems like a pretty good bike to me -- especially considering the price. Here's a couple of photos of it. http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa376/WaltGilbert/IMGP3404.jpg http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa376/WaltGilbert/IMGP3396.jpg looks like a fairly average city bike -- upright riding position, workable components, not made to last forever or to ride long distances That sounds a lot like what it was used for before I got it. The guy who rode it generally just rode it around in the suburbs and took it on vacation with him. And it strikes me as a pretty good vehicle for hauling around a camera to a few places a car can't quite get to if I have suitable tires. should do fine on streets and smooth park trails; with a triple up front that's 21 speeds, so you can stroll up hills; fatter tires can absorb bumps better, knobby tires aren't necessary unless you're riding on mud, snow or gravel; can't really tell, but the seat could be the weak point ... The area I live in does have a lot of gravel roads, potholes and washboard surfaces in some spots, so I figure I'll need somewhat fatter tires than the ones that are on it now. There are a couple of wildlife preserves within riding distance, too, and the roads on those are entirely gravel. There will likely be some snow (and ice) this winter. The seat was more comfortable than I'd expected, but I've only ridden it a couple hundred yards, just to get a feel for the seat height adjustment. I'll need to log a few miles on it before I see how that's going to work out, I figure. Thanks for the input, Steve. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
