Bob Wills advice.

1999-02-19 Thread RWarn17588

   I'm looking for an economically priced CD of Bob Wills' greatest hits,
preferably with his best lineup. The Tiffany Transcriptions look great, but
there's a bazillion volumes of the thing. A double-CD collection would be
acceptable. Any suggestions? 

   My typing sucks today ... it's tough to tap when you've got a bandaged
finger (don't ask).

Ron Warnick

NP: Del McCoury Band, "The Family"



Book about Texas music.

1999-02-19 Thread RWarn17588

I'm looking for a book about the history of Texas music, from Buddy
Holly and T-Bone blues to current day. I can't remember the title, but I saw
it in my local Borders store a few months ago. Predictably, it was gone the
next time I went looking for it. Anyone remember it, and is it worth getting?

Ron Warnick

NP: Wilco, "Summer Teeth"



Twangfest

1999-02-19 Thread RWarn17588

   OK, OK ... I'm dying from the anticipation ... do we have a lineup yet
for Twangfest, and when will it be announced? And will Kimmie Rhodes be there?
(Hope so).

Ron Warnick

NP: Blondie, "No Exit"



Re: Nine Inch Nails in my Coffin

1999-02-19 Thread vgs399

The last I heard which was two weeks ago was that NIN's next release will be
"The Fragile" (title still tentative) and who knows when?  Some say May,
some say June.  Reznor went into it wishing to write a more radio-friendly
album, has enough material to fill two discs at this point (half-vocal,
half-instrumental) and the talk is that it may be a double album.  According
to what I've heard, there isn't any Hank on it, but that he does some
experimental things with unlikely "rock" instruments - among them the
ukelele.  There's always so many rumors going around about NIN (just like
Manson) and I highly suspect that if he did do Hank covers, his core fan
base would move to an uncharted island in the Pacific overnight g Anyway,
interesting comment - just wonder what source your local dj was qouting?
Tera
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Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 8:27 PM
Subject: Nine Inch Nails in my Coffin


Hey there,

According to some DJ on Q101 (Chicagos Rock Alternative) The next Trent
Reznor CD is going to be all Hank Williams covers. The DJ wasnt as
excited as I was. If I was not in my car I might've called him up and
given him what's fur.

LAter...
CK
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Re: Bob Wills advice.

1999-02-19 Thread vgs399

Rhino's "Anthology 1935-1973" is pretty good.  It's about $25- 30, but has
32 tracks.  Other than that, I also have a Sony Collector's Series
"Anthology" - that was about 8 or 9 dollars.  Has some good ones also (24 in
all) - Mexicali Rose, Corrine Corrina, Blue Yodel Number1, Steel Guitar Rag
etc;
Tera
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 12:32 AM
Subject: Bob Wills advice.


   I'm looking for an economically priced CD of Bob Wills' greatest
hits,
preferably with his best lineup. The Tiffany Transcriptions look great, but
there's a bazillion volumes of the thing. A double-CD collection would be
acceptable. Any suggestions?

   My typing sucks today ... it's tough to tap when you've got a
bandaged
finger (don't ask).

Ron Warnick

NP: Del McCoury Band, "The Family"






Re: Bob Wills advice.

1999-02-19 Thread Bill Silvers

At 01:30 AM 2/19/1999 Ron Warnick wrote:

   I'm looking for an economically priced CD of Bob Wills' greatest hits,
preferably with his best lineup. The Tiffany Transcriptions look great, but
there's a bazillion volumes of the thing. A double-CD collection would be
acceptable. Any suggestions? 

If "econonically priced" is your primary concern, the best value is
probably the Sony THE ESSENTIAL BOB WILLS, with 20 tracks, most all of them
truly essential, for $11.99. (Or less) Volume 2 of the Tiffany
Transciptions is a best of, with arguably his best band, 14 tracks for the
same price. I've got the two-disc Rhino ANTHOLOGY, which has 32 tracks, 12
more tracks (and adds Cherokee Maiden, Big Beaver, Blues For Dixie, and
Faded Love among the 12 others) than the Sony disc, but lists for $28.49. 
When I first read your question, I'd have said to buy the Rhino set, but I
could see buying the Sony ESSENTIAL and one or two of the Tiffany
Transcriptions (which are very similar) and come in at roughly the same or
less money. 

my two cents,
b.s.  
"The truth ain't always what we need, sometimes we need to hear a beautiful
lie." -Bill Lloyd




Re: Book about Texas music.

1999-02-19 Thread vgs399

Could this be "Texas Music" written by Rick Koster?  It serves the timelines
and the artists you are speaking of.  St. Martin's Press.  Published 1998.
Pretty good reading all in all.  Talks about Buddy Holly.   I just got  "The
Real Rhythm and Blues" by Hugh Gregory which spans the blues/soul years in
the sixties.  Quick and interesting reading and fills me in on my misguided
Stax post from a few weeks ago.  Oh well...memory and the best intentions do
not necessarily make an informed post. Sorry about that.
Always learnin',
Tera
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 12:34 AM
Subject: Book about Texas music.


I'm looking for a book about the history of Texas music, from Buddy
Holly and T-Bone blues to current day. I can't remember the title, but I
saw
it in my local Borders store a few months ago. Predictably, it was gone the
next time I went looking for it. Anyone remember it, and is it worth
getting?

Ron Warnick

NP: Wilco, "Summer Teeth"





Re: Time line?

1999-02-19 Thread Hanspeter Eggenberger

 Reply to:   Re: Time line?
John Magee wrote:
Who was the first alt.country artist?

Hanspeter Eggenberger wrote:
I think the line begins with Hank Williams. 
Christopher M Knaus wrote:
How? He was Nashville, popular, mainstream, did adds for just about anything,
and wrote songs for the sole purpose of selling alot of them to a
mainstream audience. The man was country. No alt.

But, Christopher, Hank Williams' work has a greater influence on many alt.country 
artists from Rank  File to The Waco Brothers than on Garth Brooks.

HP




And the winner is......(Derailer news!)

1999-02-19 Thread Matt Benz

Hope I'm the first to announce that the new bass player for the
Derailers is no other than COlumbus resident Ed Atkins, formally lead
vocalist, guitarist, bass player for the Roundhouse Ranglers. He will be
heading to Austin next month, just in time to tour behind the new
Derailers album and perform in a video. 
Ed's a good lookin well mannered youngster, with a voice that reminds me
of Faron Young. Here's to his success with the Derailers. He should fit
in well.

BTW- Dave Alvin announced from the stage last night that the new
Derailers will be the best yet. His concert last night was the first in
a long time that held me enthralled. We found out for instance that the
"border radio" request was Cupid, and that Alvin and the Guilty Men can
do a little RB - Philly and Motown style, with their special guest
vocalist, whose name escapes me, but Alvin produced his album and had
him selling tees. Anyway, they did- and Cantwell can correct me "Cowboys
and Indians" I believe (about playing shoot em up as a kid. Song was
familar but.), which included a verse and chorus from Just My
Imagination. Excellent.












Re: And the winner is......(Derailer news!)

1999-02-19 Thread Masonsod

Jeez, Matt, I thought you were going to tell me that it was YOU that was the
new bass player.  You know, give up that cushy museum job to plunk the four-
string in a bunch of smelly dives just to say "I'm a Derailer."

Mitch Matthews (partying with Dave Alvin tonite!)
Gravel Train/Sunken Road



Twangfest (was Re: Half Mad Moon)

1999-02-19 Thread Jim_Caligiuri

Junior writes: We just want to cross our Ts, dot our Is, and let our world
famous spokesmodel Mr. Mark Wyatt step up to the plate when everything's in
order.

Ooo, does Mark get to wear that slinky black dress when he makes the big
announcement? I think it would be fabulous with those goofy stacked heel
boots he's got.
Jim, still smilin'
Oh and btw, despite what Matt says, the Damnations are the *best* band in
Austin. Is anyone else annoyed by his constant cheerleading for the Gourds
or is it just me?




Re: Bob Wills advice, mainstream country.

1999-02-19 Thread Jon Weisberger

Bill Silvers' advice is right on the money; your best choices for cheap,
basic coverage of Wills' best-known stuff is the Essential or Vol.2 of the
Tiffany Transcriptions.  There are 6 songs that appear on both CDs; the
Essential gives you more - another 14 songs - than the Tiffany CD (8), but
a) some of them are alternate takes and b) some are less essential than the
non-duplicates on Tiffany.  Personally, I listen to the Tiffany CD more
than the Essential, except when I'm after the very first version of a song
that appears on both.

I don't doubt that if someone were to ask for the names of 3 male and 3
female artists who, taken together, "represented  a contemporary
alt.country esthetic," the nature of the difficulty would be obvious:
there's too much variety for such a small list to accurately capture even
the biggest trends or groupings.  The same is, believe it or not, pretty
much true of mainstream country as well.  Gill, Strait, Jackson, McGraw,
Brooks  Dunn, Chesnutt, Brooks, Byrd, JMM, Diamond Rio - none of these are
especially hard to distinguish if you spend a little time listening, and
none makes a very good substitute for any of the others as an esthetic
representative (except for maybe Chesnutt  Byrd, and even then, that's a
big maybe).  Same on the female side.  BTW, though Faith Hill is certainly
a huge star, the notion that she's less pop-oriented than Trisha Yearwood
kind of blows my mind; personally, I'd say it's the other way around.  

As for the notion that:

Hank Williams' work has a greater influence on many alt.country artists
from Rank  File to The Waco Brothers than on Garth Brooks

all I'll say for now is that this is Alt.Country Fallacy #1, unless
"influence" is being used to indicate something so nebulous and subjective
as to reside primarily, if not exclusively, in the mind of the beholder -
in which case it's a statement about the maker's attitude (informed or
otherwise), not a statement about the music.  In any event, Cheryl's notion
about the most fruitful treatment of a time line - that is, the
consideration of country styles, rather than trying to narrow it down to
just alt.country WTI - makes a lot of sense.  


Jon Weisberger  Kenton County, KY  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/



Re: Lucinda on TV

1999-02-19 Thread Thomas W. Mohr

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Not sure if anyone else already posted this, but Lucinda Williams is
scheduled
 to be the musical guest on Saturday Night Live this week. Unfortunately,
I
 think there's only one musical segment on the show these days.
I think it depends on whether the show is running late -- sometimes they
cut the second musical number.

 VH1 is also repeating the Hard Rock Live show with Lucinda and Natalie
 Merchant Saturday at midnight EST, and I believe it repeats Monday and
 Wednesday nights at 7 p.m. Check your local listings, as they say.
Good show, but it was like forty minutes of Natalie and fifteen of Lucinda.

Other tv note -- Blondie was pretty great on Leno last night.  Debbie
sounded good, but (drummer)
Clem Burke was awesome.

--
Tom Mohr
at the office: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
at the home: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




RE: Cowboys to Girls (?) was Derailer news!)

1999-02-19 Thread Matt Benz




[Matt Benz]  
Yes, yes, and Gaffney was the guest on stage. Thank you much.
Very cool cover.


 In case David is otherwise engaged - the song sounds like it might
 be the Intruders(?) "Cowboys to Girls" which was recently covered by
 Chris
 Gaffney, with duet vocals from Lucinda, on his 1995 Dave Alvin
 produced album
 "Loser's Paradise" (great cd, btw).
 Speaking of country-soul, I was listening to Freda Payne's "Band
 of Gold"
 recently and I coulda sworn that some country act in the last 10 years
 had
 covered it and maybe even had a hit with it.  Anybody?
  Evan Cooper
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



Re: Book about Texas music.

1999-02-19 Thread Jamie Hoover

Rick Koster--This is the guy that said Wayne Hancock was Butch's little
brother.  Be careful with this book.  Check out Larry Willoughby's Texas
Rhytm-Texas Rhyme, A Pictorical History of Texas Music.  Also Check out the The
Texas Music Bibliography put out by the Governor's office, it is on the web.
Jamie

np: The Pinetops

vgs399 wrote:

 Could this be "Texas Music" written by Rick Koster?  It serves the timelines
 and the artists you are speaking of.  St. Martin's Press.  Published 1998.
 Pretty good reading all in all.  Talks about Buddy Holly.   I just got  "The
 Real Rhythm and Blues" by Hugh Gregory which spans the blues/soul years in
 the sixties.  Quick and interesting reading and fills me in on my misguided
 Stax post from a few weeks ago.  Oh well...memory and the best intentions do
 not necessarily make an informed post. Sorry about that.
 Always learnin',
 Tera
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 12:34 AM
 Subject: Book about Texas music.

 I'm looking for a book about the history of Texas music, from Buddy
 Holly and T-Bone blues to current day. I can't remember the title, but I
 saw
 it in my local Borders store a few months ago. Predictably, it was gone the
 next time I went looking for it. Anyone remember it, and is it worth
 getting?
 
 Ron Warnick
 
 NP: Wilco, "Summer Teeth"
 





Re: Time line?

1999-02-19 Thread Tom Smith

Jon Weisberger wrote re:
 
... underlying class
 issues.  Nashville's upper crust, for instance, prided itself on living in
 The Athens Of The South (hence the Parthenon), and by and large disdained
 the Opry and the country music bidness into the 1960s, but I don't think
 that attitude permeated all sectors of the city's population.

That's what I suspected. One would think that New Orleans 
whose identification with and economic drawing power 
depend so much on its image as a swingin' town would 
revere its musicians, but most of the year they're as 
marginalized there as anywhere else. Some of that's racial 
as much as a class issue. It's certainly not related to any 
disdain for whooping it up in public, for the uppercrust has 
bought into that for at least 150 years. A funny side thing is 
that I've played at swank parties in NO and NY at which 
exceedingly wealthy fiftysomething male New Orleanians 
have gotten into SERIOUS performances as Elvis 
impersonators.  It's impossible to avoid the irony of these 
captains of society impersonating someone who, in his 
lifetime, was both far poorer and far wealthier than they 
could ever imagine.  Imagine the distance from the Memphis 
projects to the Garden District ... bizarre.
Tom Smith
(ps - Jon, thanks for the tip on Malone's "Singing Cowboys" 
book awhile back. Looks like good vacation reading for an 
upcoming trip west of the Pecos)



RE: Cowboys to Girls (?) was Derailer news!)

1999-02-19 Thread Jon Weisberger

 Speaking of country-soul, I was listening to Freda Payne's
 "Band of Gold"
 recently and I coulda sworn that some country act in the last 10 years had
 covered it and maybe even had a hit with it.  Anybody?

Charly McClain, one of my favorite pop-oriented girl singers of the late
70s/early 80s until she hooked up with Wayne Massey, had a #22 with it in
1984; the Billboard book doesn't show anything more recent than that.

Jon Weisberger  Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/



Re: Cowboys to Girls (?) was Derailer news!)

1999-02-19 Thread Terry A. Smith

Down here in the wilderness of SE Ohio, I don't hear about these great
Columbus shows. Criminently, Alvin AND Chris Gaffney playing the same
bill. I'd have walked to Columbus for that. Chris Gaffney has put out
three of my favorite records of the past 10 or so years. His tune, "The
Garden," is a T.S. classic. And that "Cowboys to Indians," or whatever
it's called, is a great cover, as Matt said. It doesn't hurt when Lucinda
is pitching in. -- Terry Smith

ps  so what, specifically, is the Damnations TX's song "Kansas" about?
There's no lyrics in the record, so I haven't been able to ferret out the
words precisely, but the tune apparently involves the "bloody Kansas" 
pre-Civil War period (or maybe post-Civil War?). I thought it was pretty
neat that a band has enough historical savvy to make a (very good) song
out of a fairly obscure historical reference point. Or maybe they're
singing about the rock band...



Re: Over-produced?

1999-02-19 Thread Terry A. Smith

Yeah, I wrote "overproduced?" in the subject line quickly without
attempting to label Dwight one way or another. (I call him Dwight because
I can never remember whether Yoakam is spelled with an "am" or a "um.")
Anyway, I just think it's interesting that a performer such as DY and a
producer such as PA have mutual reputations for being fairly traditional,
or rootsy, or honky-tonk -- and for being able to do what they want, and
not kow-tow to pop-country radio. Yet, when you listen to that 99 Dwight
record, it's pretty heavily arranged, from song to song, and doesn't hew
to any preconceptions about sparely produced roots music. He can get away
with that, and succeed at it, because he's already paid his dues, I
suppose. Yet, when someone like Mike Ireland does some "revolutionary"
things production-wise, it turns into a big discussion point in all the
music rags (and lists). -- Terry Smith, whose precise point continues to
elude him

ps And, I'll repeat, that DY record was one of my top 10 from last year,
so I don't have any particular problem with the production.



RE: Over-produced?

1999-02-19 Thread Jon Weisberger


Terry says:

 Anyway, I just think it's interesting that a performer such as DY and a
 producer such as PA have mutual reputations for being fairly traditional,
 or rootsy, or honky-tonk -- and for being able to do what they want, and
 not kow-tow to pop-country radio. Yet, when you listen to that 99 Dwight
 record, it's pretty heavily arranged, from song to song, and doesn't hew
 to any preconceptions about sparely produced roots music. He can get away
 with that, and succeed at it, because he's already paid his dues, I
 suppose. Yet, when someone like Mike Ireland does some "revolutionary"
 things production-wise, it turns into a big discussion point in all the
 music rags (and lists).

Background, background is everything.  By which I mean, the assignment of
*merit* to spare production isn't especially a feature of country music
history Jon Weisberger  Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
per se, or (to preemptively whittle that claim down to more modest
proportions) has been contested ground; that evaluation strikes me as coming
more from an, er, relatively recent rock milieu, and so it's not surprising
that it would be applied more consistently, or more stringently, to someone
who comes at least in part from that background and is being marketed at
least in part to an audience that comes at least in part from it.  Is that
qualified enough g?




Re: Kansas was Cowboys to Girls

1999-02-19 Thread William T. Cocke


On Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:47:28 -0500 (EST) "Terry A. Smith" 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ps  so what, specifically, is the Damnations TX's song "Kansas" about?
 There's no lyrics in the record, so I haven't been able to ferret out the
 words precisely, but the tune apparently involves the "bloody Kansas" 
 pre-Civil War period (or maybe post-Civil War?). I thought it was pretty
 neat that a band has enough historical savvy to make a (very good) song
 out of a fairly obscure historical reference point. Or maybe they're
 singing about the rock band...

Off the top of my head, Kansas was called "Bloody Kansas" 
in the decade or so leading up to the Civil War because it 
was a hotbed of unrest and violence due to the fact that it 
wasn't certain which way it would enter the Union -- slave 
or free. Thus it became sort of a magnet for extremists on 
both sides of the slavery issue. Shoot-outs, murders, 
lynchings, and what we would call terrorism today, all took 
place in Kansas in the 1850s, as both sides tried to win 
the upper hand. In a way it was a ghastly foreshadowing of 
what was to come.

It's an interesting and mostly successful songwriting 
attempt in an album full of good songs. I especially like 
the imagery of (I'm paraphrasing here) the singer being 
frightened of "an old man standing there hot as a pepper." 
I get the image of some fanatical John Brown-type ready to 
kill everyone in sight or maybe a bitter slaveowner come to 
retrieve his "property." I don't know if the word 
"salivating" used in the song was in common parlance at the 
time, but poetic license I always say...

I don't think I'm reading too much into a story song like 
this, but I've given this album a couple of hard listens 
and am finding that it keeps getting better with each 
playing. And it's one of those rare albums that actually 
gets better as it goes along. The last half is certainly as 
strong as the first. This is an impressive effort. 
Intelligent, well-written, country-tinged rock and roll.
 
William Cocke
Senior Writer
HSC Development
University of Virginia
(804) 924-8432



Patti Bell and the Bell Rangers

1999-02-19 Thread NancyApple

Anyone know anything about Patti Bell and the Bell Rangers. Someone called my
radio show and said I should check them out, and they also were curious as to
any records, etc.

I was told that there is a song or two on a NIagra Niagra Soundtrack, but I
have not found that. 



Re: Lucinda on TV

1999-02-19 Thread Ndubb

 Other tv note -- Blondie was pretty great on Leno last night.  Debbie
 sounded good, but (drummer)
 Clem Burke was awesome. 

You know, I can't stand Clem Burke. When he joined the Plimsouls a few years
back, he annoyed the hell out of me during live performances, playing with an
over-the-top presence that just pleaded "look at me, look at me." A complete
distraction, antics I hadn't seen since the stick-twirlers of Sunset Strip
circa late-80s. Yuck. Plus, I think he's just overrated as a drummer. Of
course, I am biased. As the story goes, a buddy of mine was supposed to get
the gig. He was even told by Case and all that he was the better of the
drummers, but that Clem had the star power. Sad when the Plimsouls, one of my
favorite bands of the 80s, are stooping to that.

Besides, I still think Case should stick to his wonderful solo career. When he
goes back to the Plimsouls, I can't help but feel that his best talents are
being compromised in order to dabble and rekindle his past.

Of course, I'll still see the Plimsouls, with or without Burke, any day of the
week.

Neal Weiss



Re: Chris Gaffney Cowboys to Girls

1999-02-19 Thread KATIEJOM

OK.now that someone has mentioned Chris Gaffney and his wonderful CD,
"Loser's Paradise,"  I have to confess that I'd love to hear George Jones
record "The Man of Somebody's Dreams" for his new CD on Asylum!

Chris and Rosie do a wonderful job with it, but, George (w/Patty Loveless)
could make a whole lotta folks cry in their beer for sure!  I think it'd
outsell "He Stopped Loving Her Today" and put the man back at #1.  Any
comments?

Kate.


In a message dated 2/19/1999 10:53:26 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   [Matt Benz]  
   Yes, yes, and Gaffney was the guest on stage. Thank you much.
  Very cool cover.

   In case David is otherwise engaged - the song sounds like it might
   be the Intruders(?) "Cowboys to Girls" which was recently covered by
   Chris
   Gaffney, with duet vocals from Lucinda, on his 1995 Dave Alvin
   produced album
   "Loser's Paradise" (great cd, btw).



Re: Lucinda / Blondie on TV

1999-02-19 Thread Ph. Barnard

Out of curiosity, who else was in Blondie last night, besides Harry, 
Stein, and Burke.  Did they have that tall woman on bass that was 
playing with them when they first reformed a couple of years ago 
(hooweee!!! g)?  Or who?

Just wondering

--junior

ps.  Neal, I like Burke pretty well.  Yes his drumming is 
exhibitionistic and so on, but it's a certain style and I think he 
does it well.  I do agree, however, that Case should stick to the 
solo career.  The reunited Plimsouls were fun, but more in a 
nostalgic sense than as a real band with forward creative energy. 
After the show I saw on that tour with Burke, Case told me with a 
straight face that he was doing it "to  put my son through grad 
school" g



Re: Lucinda / Blondie on TV

1999-02-19 Thread Thomas W. Mohr

Ph. Barnard wrote:

 Out of curiosity, who else was in Blondie last night, besides Harry,
 Stein, and Burke.  Did they have that tall woman on bass that was
 playing with them when they first reformed a couple of years ago
 (hooweee!!! g)?  Or who?

 Just wondering
Original member Jimmy Destri on keyboards, and the band's website says
the other two (bass, lead guitar) are Leigh Foxx and Paul Carbonara.

http://www.blondie.net/members.html

I guess I wasn't paying much attention to the bassist, but I don't think
it was a tall woman...

--
Tom Mohr
at the office: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
at the home: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Kansas was Cowboys to Girls

1999-02-19 Thread Ph. Barnard

Yeah, the Kansas song on Half Mad Moon is one I've listened to over 
and over because I had a hard time a) deciphering the lyrics, b) 
understanding how they all went together once I'd figured them out 
(there are still a couple of lines I don't get, in fact...).  And 
being in Kansas, I felt duty-bound to figure it out g.

As William says, the song refers to the "Bleeding Kansas" period of 
pro- and anti-slavery violence following the Kansas-Nebraska Act in 
1854.  Outrage against the way this act opened the door for a spread 
of slavery after the Missouri Compromise, etc., gave birth to the 
Republican party, bitter guerilla warfare between pro- and 
anti-slavery factions in Kansas itself (John Brown, a notorious 
massacre in Lawrence, the town I'm writing from right now, etc.), and 
the famous incident on the floor of the U.S. Senate in which 
Massachusetts Senator Charles Sumner was beaten senseless by southern 
Senator Preston Brooks.  (You think the House Managers were partisan 
last month!!!).  Sumner denounced the "crimes against Kansas" and 
ended up in a bloody heap on the floor.  

And yet the Damnations song has a fun, jangly feeling, so that my 
daughter knows the words already and sings them happily as we're 
driving around Lawrence in the car:  "Kansas Bleeding Kansas, back 
home!!"

I still wonder how they came to write such a song.  I initially 
thought perhaps one of them was from here, but from what everyone 
says they're from NY by way of the Southwest, etc.  So who knows  
Someone should ask them.

--junior, in Lawrence, KS...  



Bookstore gig question

1999-02-19 Thread Cheryl Cline

Okay, here's a question:

I am now the proud part-owner of a very cool used bookshop. We want to
do some in-store music thangs now and then. What I need to know is, how
much do you guys out there charge for this sort of thing? Details are
still being hashed out, but there seems to be two main kinds of gig
we're talking about. One: inside the store, acoustic, probably weekday
afternoons (the ever-popular "noon concert" is a possibility), maybe
afternoon weekends. The other would definitely be weekends, outside the
store, electric or acoustic, in tandem with other events by other
stores. Little tiny mini-festival kinda deal. Summertime stuff.

Besides a fee, you can of course bring your merch. Food is a likely
possiblility -- just don't expect squirrel brains. Extra barter for
books or records can be negotiated. We can set up a display of your CDs
ahead of time with a promo poster and feature it on the "Now Playing"
rack as often as we can stand. 8-) Etc.

But, how much $$? And does the fee go up on weekends? Evenings? I've
never done this before, so clue me in to what's standard, expected, etc.

Lastly but not leastly, what about ASCAP fees? 

Thanks much,
--Cheryl Cline

P.S.: Check out the Diablo Books website at http://www.diablo-books.com

P.P.S.: Check it out again next week after my "Odd Volumes" column
starts!



Re: Kansas was Cowboys to Girls

1999-02-19 Thread William F. Silvers



William T. Cocke wrote:

 On Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:47:28 -0500 (EST) "Terry A. Smith"
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  ps  so what, specifically, is the Damnations TX's song "Kansas" about?
  There's no lyrics in the record, so I haven't been able to ferret out the
  words precisely, but the tune apparently involves the "bloody Kansas"
  pre-Civil War period (or maybe post-Civil War?). I thought it was pretty
  neat that a band has enough historical savvy to make a (very good) song
  out of a fairly obscure historical reference point. Or maybe they're
  singing about the rock band...

 Off the top of my head, Kansas was called "Bloody Kansas"
 in the decade or so leading up to the Civil War because it
 was a hotbed of unrest and violence due to the fact that it
 wasn't certain which way it would enter the Union -- slave
 or free. Thus it became sort of a magnet for extremists on
 both sides of the slavery issue. Shoot-outs, murders,
 lynchings, and what we would call terrorism today, all took
 place in Kansas in the 1850s, as both sides tried to win
 the upper hand. In a way it was a ghastly foreshadowing of
 what was to come.

It was "Bleeding Kansas", but William's memory is pretty right on otherwise.
Like every other state admitted to the Union after the Missouri Compromise,
Kansas' slave or free status was hotly debated, and was left to the residents
themselves to decide by vote. Thus both sides tried everything possible to get
the "right" vote. The definitive history of the Missouri-Kansas Civil War by
Jay Monaghan is aptly titled "Civil War On The Western Border 1854-1865". The
war started here in a sense, and was fought here in a way that directly
affected and involved "civilians" like never before. (Ever heard of "Bloody
Bill" Anderson, or Jesse James?gJohn Brown got his first kills here.) In a
sense it was thus a precursor to modern warfare in much the same way as the
rifled musket and entrenchments were. (The Union's infamous Order Number 11
forcibly removed many locals from their property without compensation and
swelled the ranks of the guerrillas) Kansas went for the Union eventually, but
Missouri natives were by and large Southern sympathisers- The Missouri State
Guard went over to the South along with most of the state government, and were
led by Missouri's leading citizen, Sterling "Ol Pap" Price. It was the large
influx of mostly German and Irish immigrants in the St. Louis area (many of
whom had escaped conscription or revolution or famine in their native
countries) that formed the backbone of early Union resistance in Missouri and
at the battle that saved the state for the Union, Wilson's Creek. (Nice
battlefield tour, BTW)Junior and I discussed some of this at some length awhile
back onlist, and it doesn't probably belong here, but it is fascinating to the
locals at least. Noted director Ang Lee finished filming a movie here last
spring, "To Live On", that supposedly deals with the issues of the neighbor
against neighbor guerrilla warfare around these parts. Notables include Skeet
Ulrich, Jim Caviezel and, um, Jewel. How much of it the movie gets "right" is
definitely up for grabs (I'd be thrilled with a "Glory"-like proximity to
realism) but the exposure of the border conflict to a wider public will be
kinda cool.

Oh, got all carried away there. Twang content from William re: Damnations TX:

 Intelligent, well-written, country-tinged rock and roll.

He got that right too. g

b.s.

p.s. Oh yeah and Steve Earle's "Ben McCulloch" is an excellent piece of
historical writing as well as a good song of some southern recruits who "see
the elephant" at Pea Ridge.



Re: Bookstore gig question

1999-02-19 Thread Owen Bly



Our experience with in-stores (record or book -- we've done both) is that
they're really more of a promo for a bigger gig in the area, maybe later
that night or the next day.  As such, we generally don't get paid.  Not
officially, anyway.  Usually the manager will slip each band member a nice
gift certificate, which is genuinely appreciated...

Generally it's a 25 - 30 minute set.

Owen




Okay, here's a question:

I am now the proud part-owner of a very cool used bookshop. We want to
do some in-store music thangs now and then. What I need to know is, how
much do you guys out there charge for this sort of thing? Details are
still being hashed out, but there seems to be two main kinds of gig
we're talking about. One: inside the store, acoustic, probably weekday
afternoons (the ever-popular "noon concert" is a possibility), maybe
afternoon weekends. The other would definitely be weekends, outside the
store, electric or acoustic, in tandem with other events by other
stores. Little tiny mini-festival kinda deal. Summertime stuff.

Besides a fee, you can of course bring your merch. Food is a likely
possiblility -- just don't expect squirrel brains. Extra barter for
books or records can be negotiated. We can set up a display of your CDs
ahead of time with a promo poster and feature it on the "Now Playing"
rack as often as we can stand. 8-) Etc.

But, how much $$? And does the fee go up on weekends? Evenings? I've
never done this before, so clue me in to what's standard, expected, etc.

Lastly but not leastly, what about ASCAP fees?

Thanks much,
--Cheryl Cline

P.S.: Check out the Diablo Books website at http://www.diablo-books.com

P.P.S.: Check it out again next week after my "Odd Volumes" column
starts!



RE: Cowboys to Girls (?) was Derailer news!)

1999-02-19 Thread Matt Benz



 -Original Message-
 From: Terry A. Smith [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, February 19, 1999 11:47 AM
 To:   passenger side
 Subject:  Re: Cowboys to Girls (?) was Derailer news!)
 
 Down here in the wilderness of SE Ohio, I don't hear about these great
 Columbus shows. Criminently, Alvin AND Chris Gaffney playing the same
 bill. I'd have walked to Columbus for that. Chris Gaffney has put out
 three of my favorite records of the past 10 or so years. His tune,
 "The
 Garden," is a T.S. classic. And that "Cowboys to Indians," or whatever
 it's called, is a great cover, as Matt said. It doesn't hurt when
 Lucinda
 is pitching in. -- Terry Smith
 
[Matt Benz]  Sorry, Terry, but to make you feel better, Gaffney
only sang two songs with Alvin, then played accordion on Marie Marie and
So Long Baby Goodbye. Other than that, he sold the tee shirts.

M 



RE: And the winner is......(Derailer news!)

1999-02-19 Thread Matt Benz



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, February 19, 1999 8:29 AM
 To:   passenger side
 Subject:  Re: And the winner is..(Derailer news!)
 
 Jeez, Matt, I thought you were going to tell me that it was YOU that
 was the
 new bass player.  You know, give up that cushy museum job to plunk the
 four-
 string in a bunch of smelly dives just to say "I'm a Derailer."
 
[Matt Benz]  Naw...I can't afford the suits. Actually, I'm not
even sure I can play the bass, come to think of it.




Re: Bookstore gig question

1999-02-19 Thread louicm


Hey Cheryl,

Hi there ho there, Kip here. In answer to your question...well, I
dunno. How's this for an answer. If it's just a acoustic thing, I'd say
$25 and a meal would suffice. If it's a whole band and it's a
weekend, well...shoot for $50. Maybe $60. It all depends on 1) how
experienced the band is and 2) what they willing to do. Dinner and/or a
gift certificate go a long way though with many of us (I didn't tell you
that, it's a sworn secret of the trade).

Kip

P.S. Hey, we haven't forgotten about the last $1,000 we owe you.
Whenever you need it, you let us know. We're about to spend some pretty
serious dough to incorporate as a not-for-profit entity but you come first
if you need it now!







Re: Bookstore gig question

1999-02-19 Thread louicm

Oh yes! He shoots, he scores, he sends a private e-mail to the
whole friggin' list! Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go meet the rest
of the Twang Gang out behind the shed...

Kip





Re: Chris Gaffney Cowboys to Girls / James Hand

1999-02-19 Thread RMould5417

In a message dated 99-02-19 12:50:04 EST, you write:

 OK.now that someone has mentioned Chris Gaffney and his wonderful CD,
 "Loser's Paradise,"  I have to confess that I'd love to hear George Jones
 record "The Man of Somebody's Dreams" for his new CD on Asylum!
 
 Chris and Rosie do a wonderful job with it, but, George (w/Patty Loveless)
 could make a whole lotta folks cry in their beer for sure!  I think it'd
 outsell "He Stopped Loving Her Today" and put the man back at #1.  Any
 comments?
 
 Kate.
  


Uhhh...interesting to hear you say that. I've thought ever since I heard CG's
"Glass House" that it was a song GJ could flat-out murder. Would include
MOS'sD too, I reckon. Would also love to hear George's take on James Hand's
"Over There, That's Frank," "If You Can't Tell The Difference," and "My
Heart's Been Cheatin' On Me."

So let's call George and tell 'im. g

Joe



Chicago Reader

1999-02-19 Thread Christopher M Knaus

Hey there,

Check out the Reader web site www.chireader.com for a complimentary
article on the Tom T Hall comp in the music section. Linda Ray also has a
Bad Livers review, but I dont think thats on their web site.

Later...
CK
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Re: Time line?

1999-02-19 Thread Christopher M Knaus

Hey there,

Hanspeter responds:
But, Christopher, Hank Williams' work has a greater influence on many 
alt.country artists from Rank  File to The Waco Brothers than on 
Garth Brooks.HP

Well, if influence means "We like Hank because he drank alot, died young
and wrote songs that are fun to play alot louder and faster than he did."
Maybe. And I think there's a straighter line between "Low Places" and
"Honky Tonkin" than there is between the Wacos cover of the same song.

Also, on another tack, if an artist influences alt.country bands, that
does not necessarily make them an alt.country artist. Your point seems to
tread closely to "country" being defined as "the mainstream stuff I do
not like" and "alt.country" being defined as "everything I do like." This
is dangerous. Maybe I've been reading too many of Weisberger's posts. g

If asked to divide acts into alt.country and country buckets (much to the
chagrin of Cheryl) I would place Hank in the lattter based on popularity,
style, and marketing agenda.

The first alt.country artist was, of course, Emmett Miller g.

Later...
CK
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give the dulcimer some

1999-02-19 Thread Christopher M Knaus

Hey there,

Caught Bare Jr. at Schubas last night. Damn. Any band that give away
earplugs for free is OK w/ me. 

Not only were they loud, but they were relaxed, tight where is counted
and plowed through most of the CD, along with some new ones and a cover
or two (and a really weird partial cover of Sabotage by The Beasties).
Apparently the anticipation of having Purcell open for them on Fri. did
not make them uneasy. g 

Live they come off more, um, funkier I guess due to the upfront presence
(both in your ears and eyes) of the bass and drums. And the mountain
dulcimer (yes mountain dulcimer) has more of a lead role live as well.

Damn good. I've said that. So check em out if you get the chance.

Later...
CK a tshirt that says Bare Jr on the back and "blow me off ... turn me
on" sounded like a good purchase at the time, now, not so much
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CMJ reviews

1999-02-19 Thread John Cunningham

Found it interesting that in the latest issue of CMJ New Music Monthly,
where they feature five or six CDs as the Best New Music of the month,
that 3 out of 6 releases reflect the interests of this list. Think it
speaks to the vitality and how interest in this music is growing.
Thought others might enjoy reading the reviews.

STEVE EARLE  THE DEL MCCOURY BAND  "The Mountain"

Although The Mountain marks Steve Earle's first true bluegrass album, it
sure ain't high and lonesome. But neither is Earle--at least not
anymore. To continue the potsherd renaissance that began with 1995's
similarly rootsy and acoustic Train A-Comin', Earle enlists one of the
world's finest bluegrass bands to support his latest batch of well
crafted songs, and what results feels like a hoe-down, a hootenanny, and
a house party. Earle's worn and weary voice rasps appealingly against
the McCoury brothers' plucky banjo and mandolin playing (Del's classic
high tenor hides in the background), and if some songs smack of genre
exercises, it's because of bluegrass's relatively fixed conventions. But
even when "Yours Forever Blue" rewrites El Corazon's "You Know The Rest"
and "Leroy's Dustbowl Blues" cribs a chorus from Dylan's "Tombstone
Blues," Earle and company invest the songs with the joy of collaboration
and celebration. Truth be told, Earle's in a bit of a rut: Like his
recent albums, The Mountain includes a sweet-and-sour duet (here with
Iris Dement), a couple geographic rave ups ("Texas Eagle," "Dixieland"),
and an in memoriam valedictory (the gospel "Pilgrim"). But it's a high
caliber rut, of classic sounding songs, and The Mountain should appeal
to bluegrass aficionados and neophytes alike.    -Steve Klinge

DAMNATIONS TX    "Half Mad Moon"

Amy Boone and Deborah kelly, co-leaders of the Damnations EX, might be
New York bred, but they cut their teeth in the early '90s at venerable,
folksy Austin venues like (the sadly defunct) Chicago House. Now a
regular and popular part of Austin's rich scene, the Damnations deliver
an irresistible debut that proves Austinites still know their tunes.
Clearly, so do the Damnations. From the folksy, bittersweet "Spit and
Tears" and tender "Jack's Waltz" to the bright, gritty "Things I Once
Adored" and rollicking "Down The Line," Half Mad Moon is the kind of
record y'allternative fans have been waiting for--a challenge from
country-rock's second generation, packed with character, class, and
originality. Neighbor John Croslin's tasteful, understated production
brings out the Damnations' best, as the group piles on stellar
musicianship, warm keyboards, and a host of strings (acoustic and
electric guitars, banjo, mandolin, etc.). Half sisters Boone and Kelly
hook listeners in with supple vocals, heartfelt harmonies, and engaging
stories, including a simple, gorgeous tale of a stolen amplifier ("Black
Widow"). Mixing fun and frolic ("Finger The Pie," "Unholy Train") into
their twang and tears, the group confidently honors the past as it keeps
its eyes and ears on the future.  -Mark Woodlief

KELLY WILLIS   "What I Deserve"

It's all too easy to compare Kelly Willis to Lucinda Williams. Like
Williams, she transcends genre, beautifully blurring the lines between
country, rock, and folk, and like Williams, her critical acclaim is
matched only by her commercial frustrations and music biz missteps
(Willis has gone through three record labels in this decade alone). But
there's a problem with this spindle. See, Lucinda Williams is, as the
kids say, cary-talented--a peerless songwriter and a very tough act to
follow. That's too bad for Willis, because What I Deserve is her most
assured album to date. Its best songs, in particular the title track and
"Real Deep Feeling," sway with ease and a strangely abiding sadness.
They find solace in life's limitations, and a universe in the space
between two people. Willis's voice--pure as a tear, real as a lump in
your throat--has never sounded better. And her subtle harmonies recall
those of the Everly Brothers at their keening best. In any other 12
month cycle Willis's new album would be a much fawned over salve for the
new country blues. And while Williams's recent Car Wheels On A Gravel
Road has raised the critical bar on that salvation, so that What I
Deserve doesn't sound quite as good as it might have a year ago, it
still spotlights a talented craftswoman in her prime.
 -Matt Hanks
 

Enjoy. I am really looking forward to hearing all three of these CDs
myself next week when they arrive.

John



RE: And the winner is......(Derailer news!)

1999-02-19 Thread Jon Weisberger

Actually, I'm not even sure I can play the bass...

That's a statement one doesn't hear nearly as often as is warranted.

Jon Weisberger  Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/



Diamond Rio (was Re: Bob Wills advice, mainstream country.)

1999-02-19 Thread Louise Kyme



Jon Weisberger wrote:

 Diamond Rio and some other stuff nothing to do with Diamond Rio

Oh I *love* Diamond Rio, and I'm not scared to say it either. They are on one
hand the closest thing in Nashville to alt.country (and unfortunately on the
other hand probably the furthest from it g)

I think Jimmy Olander is such a cool guitarist, and Dan Truman is such a
swingy pianist, and Gene Johnson is a marvellous mandolin player. 'Poultry
Promenade' from their first album is still one of my favourite modern
instrumentals. I don't think they get half the credit they deserve from the so
called serious music press on account of their sometimes 'cheesy' material.

Any one else agree?

Louise
--

If you like rocking country music, check out the Okeh Wranglers web site at:

http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/bluesmoke




Sandy Bull

1999-02-19 Thread Lazarevic Aleksandar

Can someone recommend me best albums
of Sandy Bull ?
  I just got his Re-inventions cd  and i'm
so confused. I didn't expect it to be that 
good.

Alex

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11400 Mladenovac
Serbia
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RE: Diamond Rio (was Re: Bob Wills advice, mainstream country.)

1999-02-19 Thread Jon Weisberger

Louise says:

 I think Jimmy Olander is such a cool guitarist, and Dan Truman is such a
 swingy pianist, and Gene Johnson is a marvellous mandolin player. 'Poultry
 Promenade' from their first album is still one of my favourite modern
 instrumentals. I don't think they get half the credit they
 deserve from the so called serious music press on account of their
sometimes
 'cheesy' material.

 Any one else agree?

Well, I guess I do, though their last album didn't do much for me, other
than the excellent "What More Do You Want From Me," which was done better by
Rhonda Vincent on her Trouble Free.  But they're a solid outfit with some
great singing - bluegrass-derived, of course g, and they come by it
honestly; there are still Marty Roe fans out there who picked up on him
during his bluegrass days, and of course Dana is a nephew of the Osborne
Brothers.  By chance, I just got a copy of the Best Of Cliff Waldron
(Rebel), and was reminded that Gene spent some time working for Cliff - in
fact, it must have been about his first real job, because he went with
Second Generation after that, then (briefly) with J. D. Crowe's New South
before making the big move to Nashville.  He keeps his hand in on the
bluegrass, too; check out his higher'n-a-dog-whistle tenor to Don Rigsby
(with Ricky Skaggs singing baritone) on "Forty Years of Trouble" from Aubrey
Haynie's excellent Doin' My Time CD (Sugar Hill).

Jon Weisberger  Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/



Radio M show ! Will it go on in future ?

1999-02-19 Thread Lazarevic Aleksandar

Hard times are comming !

USA wants to bomb YU and i remember what
problems i had last year when some old people
called radio station and asked to forbid my show
because as they told to editor i'm doing propaganda
for enemy !?!?!?
  I hope i'll avoid it this time.

Alex

N.P. - Americana - A Tribute to Johnny Cash



Re: Patti Bell and the Bell Rangers

1999-02-19 Thread Kelly Kessler

That's Katie Bell and the Bell Rangers.  They're Chicago-based, and hard
country by Chicago standards.  They share a lot of personnel with Cole Rain,
another good local outfit.  I like 'em.  Linda Ray likes 'em.  Anybody else
want to chime in here?
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 11:30 AM
Subject: Patti Bell and the Bell Rangers


Anyone know anything about Patti Bell and the Bell Rangers. Someone called
my
radio show and said I should check them out, and they also were curious as
to
any records, etc.

I was told that there is a song or two on a NIagra Niagra Soundtrack, but I
have not found that.




Re: Bookstore gig question

1999-02-19 Thread Brad Bechtel

Cheryl,

You might want to call up Amoeba Records in San Francisco and chat with Joe Goldmark, 
or whoever it is at the Amoeba Records who handles booking in-store appearances.  They 
have showcased just in this month acts ranging from the Bad Livers to Phranc (The 
All-American Jewish Lesbian Folksinger) to Huun-Huur-Tu to Paula Frazer of Tarnation.

(415) 831-1200 or http://www.amoebarecords.com/ - and congratulations on the new 
venture!

-B "not quite a personal message to the list" B-



Re: Bookstore gig question

1999-02-19 Thread Owen Bly




Addendum to Brad's thoughtful post:

Kara handles the instores at Amoeba SF...

Rock on,

Owen



Cheryl,

You might want to call up Amoeba Records in San Francisco and chat with
Joe Goldmark, or whoever it is at the Amoeba Records who handles booking
in-store appearances.  They have showcased just in this month acts ranging
from the Bad Livers to Phranc (The All-American Jewish Lesbian Folksinger)
to Huun-Huur-Tu to Paula Frazer of Tarnation.

(415) 831-1200 or http://www.amoebarecords.com/ - and congratulations on
the new venture!

-B "not quite a personal message to the list" B-



RE: Radio M show ! Will it go on in future ?

1999-02-19 Thread Matt Benz

Good luck, Alex. Not all of us over here are for *any* bombing, so take
care, and know that we're pulling for you.

Matt





 -Original Message-
 From: Lazarevic Aleksandar [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, February 19, 1998 2:47 PM
 To:   passenger side
 Subject:  Radio M show ! Will it go on in future ?
 
 Hard times are comming !
 
 USA wants to bomb YU and i remember what
 problems i had last year when some old people
 called radio station and asked to forbid my show
 because as they told to editor i'm doing propaganda
 for enemy !?!?!?
   I hope i'll avoid it this time.
 
 Alex
 
 N.P. - Americana - A Tribute to Johnny Cash



Re: Katti Bell and the Bell Rangers

1999-02-19 Thread NancyApple

So do they have any records released that can be found in the south, if so
where?



Re: Damnations TX, Reba, Bobby Bare

1999-02-19 Thread Bob Soron

On Fri, 19 Feb 1999, Jon Weisberger mentioned:

 Bare Tracks (The Columbia Years).  Now *this* is the real find of the trip;
 I had no idea this was coming (thanks a lot, whoever's doing Koch
 publicity).  4 tracks from As Is (though "White Freightliner Blues" isn't
 among them, unfortunately), "Numbers," "Tequila Sheila," "If You Ain't Got
 Nothin'," "Rough On The Living" and a bunch more, including his duet with
 Rosanne Cash.  Also includes a version of "The Gambler" that appears to
 predate you-know-who's by a few months.  Boy, is this good stuff

I'm very sure that Bare's "The Gambler" beat Kenny Rogers', as my reaction
to Rogers' was "Why is this one the hit when he ruined a good Bare song?"

Anyway, thanks for mentioning this, Jon; I never would have known to look
for it myself, and I can already predict it will be high on my Reissues of
the Year list if I ever do one. And, not to suggest cause and effect or
anything, but some time ago, when someone wondered what good stuff from
the '70s was worth reissuing, these were high on my list. So it *is* the
sort of thing I'll rush out to buy. (But I'll probably still burn my own
CD with the original LPs, because most of 'em were good all the way
through.)

Bob

P.S.: I think the reason for the references to the Louvin Bros. toward
Damnations TX is that they actually sound like Freakwater, and *they*
sound like the Louvin Bros., as we all know. g



Re: mainstream country query

1999-02-19 Thread Terry A. Smith

 
 Hey there,
 
 If nobody has mentioned Faith Hill, I will. This is going to sound
 weird, but she is just so damn gorgeous and (seemingly) friendly
 
 That did sound weird Terry. And I'm picturing a Faith Hill poster up on
 your bedroom wall for some reason.
 
 Later...
 CK

Faith's got a poster? Oh... my... god...



Re: Damnations TX, Reba, Bobby Bare

1999-02-19 Thread Terry A. Smith

 Bob's  P.S.: I think the reason for the references to the Louvin Bros.
toward Damnations TX is that they actually sound like Freakwater, and *they*
 sound like the Louvin Bros., as we all know. g
 
 
This is funny. The review where they mentioned the Louvins comparison
appeared in USA Today (at least the one I read), but they also compared
The Damnations TX's harmonies to Exene and John Doe of X, who themselves
have been compared to Gracie Slick and Paul Kantner (or was it Marty
Balin?) of Jefferson Airplane. So we've got the Jefferson Airplane, The
Louvin Brothers, X, Damnation TX, and Freakwater, all harmonizing like
sick dogs in some delirious record reviewer's head. -- Terry Smith



Re: Patti Bell and the Bell Rangers

1999-02-19 Thread Christopher M Knaus

Hey there,

On Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:23:07 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Anyone know anything about Patti Bell and the Bell Rangers. Someone 
called my radio show and said I should check them out, and they also
were 
curious as to any records, etc.

If you are thinking of Katie Bell and the Bell Rangers. They are a fine
straight country band here in Chicago. I'll write more if that is indeed
who you are talking about, as will Linda Ray. If it is a different band
lead by Patti, never mind.

Later...
CK
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Re: Katie Bell and the Bell Rangers

1999-02-19 Thread NancyApple

It must be Katie. Like I said, a caller has been bugging me to find out about
her, records, tec. how to get them, so ya'll tell me. I am not familiar with
her, and no one in any of the stores here have.



Re: Damnations TX, Reba, Bobby Bare

1999-02-19 Thread Bob Soron

On Fri, 19 Feb 1999, Terry A. Smith wrote:

  Bob's  P.S.: I think the reason for the references to the Louvin Bros.
  toward Damnations TX is that they actually sound like Freakwater, and
  *they* sound like the Louvin Bros., as we all know. g
 
 This is funny. The review where they mentioned the Louvins comparison
 appeared in USA Today (at least the one I read), but they also compared
 The Damnations TX's harmonies to Exene and John Doe of X, who themselves
 have been compared to Gracie Slick and Paul Kantner (or was it Marty
 Balin?) of Jefferson Airplane. So we've got the Jefferson Airplane, The
 Louvin Brothers, X, Damnation TX, and Freakwater, all harmonizing like
 sick dogs in some delirious record reviewer's head. -- Terry Smith

Well, I'm not going to compare anyone's harmonies to anyone else's,
perhaps ever if I'm lucky, but on the other hand I *like* Damnations TX,
which means that as far as I'm concerned they're much, much better than
the unlistenable Freakwater.

But yeah, that reviewer would probably be an interesting person to talk
to. Once. g 

Bob



New Paul Westerberg

1999-02-19 Thread Thomas W. Mohr

His new record can be heard here via Real Audio:

 http://hollywoodandvine.com/paulwesterberg/

Preview lasts till midnight tonight (Friday).

TWM




Re: Katti Bell and the Bell Rangers

1999-02-19 Thread Christopher M Knaus

Hey there,

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
So do they have any records released that can be found in the south, 
if so where?

OK, so if it's Katie Bell...
as of about 3 months ago, they are working on putting something out
themselves but are not signed, no cd's, no tapes, no nothing.

Great band tho. Real, stone, hard country - Katie has a beautiful voice
as well.

Later...
CK

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P2 bands @ SXSW?

1999-02-19 Thread Ndubb

So, in light of the SXW-bashing that went on in these parts earlier this week,
are there any P2-related bands making the trek to SXSW this year? Curious for
professional reasons. 

Neal Weiss



Re: Radio M show ! Will it go on in future ?

1999-02-19 Thread William F. Silvers



Matt Benz wrote:

 Good luck, Alex. Not all of us over here are for *any* bombing, so take
 care, and know that we're pulling for you.

Alex,Sure hope that whatever happens you and your people will be OK. As
Matt says, the way Americans think and the way our government acts can be
very different. Usually it's been pretty faceless when the use of force is
threatened, and used. We *are* pulling for you.

b.s.




Re: mainstream country query (alison moorer)

1999-02-19 Thread Tony Renner




I did a fill-in shift on KDHX last night and 
played a Allison Moorer track, and, boy, was it good! The song was Tell Me 
Baby.

Tony


Re: Nine Inch Nails in my Coffin

1999-02-19 Thread Jeff Weiss

At 10:36 AM 2/18/99 -0600, you wrote:
Hey there,

According to some DJ on Q101 (Chicagos Rock Alternative) The next Trent
Reznor CD is going to be all Hank Williams covers. The DJ wasnt as
excited as I was. If I was not in my car I might've called him up and
given him what's fur.


Didn't Matt Johnson/The The do something similar to this?

Jeff


Miles of Music mail order
http://www.milesofmusic.com
FREE printed Catalog: (818) 883-9975 fax: (818) 992-8302, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Alt-Country, rockabilly, bluegrass, folk, power pop and tons more.




Re: Nine Inch Nails in my Coffin

1999-02-19 Thread Owen Bly



According to some DJ on Q101 (Chicagos Rock Alternative) The next Trent
Reznor CD is going to be all Hank Williams covers. The DJ wasnt as
excited as I was. If I was not in my car I might've called him up and
given him what's fur.


God.  Say it ain't so.


Owen Bly
Ranchero Records
Oakland, CA



Re: Nine Inch Nails in my Coffin

1999-02-19 Thread louicm



On Fri, 19 Feb 1999, Owen Bly wrote:

 
 According to some DJ on Q101 (Chicagos Rock Alternative) The next Trent
 Reznor CD is going to be all Hank Williams covers. The DJ wasnt as
 excited as I was. If I was not in my car I might've called him up and
 given him what's fur.

 God.  Say it ain't so.

No shit. That "The The" side project of Hank covers was wretched
enough. 

Kip 



 Owen Bly
 Ranchero Records
 Oakland, CA
 



Re: Damnations NY

1999-02-19 Thread BoudinDan

jroll wrote:

  I certainly don't hear any Louvins in there at all . . .  

What the heck is it about whenever a band has a sibling harmony thing going,
it's always a Louvin's comparison?  Talk about unoriginal reviewing.

BTW Mr. Roll, you rock!

Boudin Dan



Re: Damnations TX, Reba, Bobby Bare

1999-02-19 Thread Christopher M Knaus

Hey there,

Bob...
Well, I'm not going to compare anyone's harmonies to anyone else's,
perhaps ever if I'm lucky, but on the other hand I *like* Damnations 
TX, which means that as far as I'm concerned they're much, much better 
than the unlistenable Freakwater.

Dont start with me, Soron.

Later...
CK
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Re: New Paul Westerberg

1999-02-19 Thread Keith Meade

Thanks for the info TWM.  I just finished listening to the new album and
was very impressed.  It is alot better than I honestly expected. IMHO, this
album ("Sucaine Gratifaction") is more consistently solid from track to
track than some of his previous efforts.

KM
nps: Shane Macgowan "The Crock Of Gold" and Ditchdiggers "Cow Patty Bingo"

At 03:53 PM 2/19/99 -0600, TWM wrote:
His new record can be heard here via Real Audio:

 http://hollywoodandvine.com/paulwesterberg/

Preview lasts till midnight tonight (Friday).

TWM






Re: Nine Inch Nails in my Coffin

1999-02-19 Thread Louise Kyme



Christopher M Knaus wrote:

 Hey there,

 According to some DJ on Q101 (Chicagos Rock Alternative) The next Trent
 Reznor CD is going to be all Hank Williams covers. The DJ wasnt as
 excited as I was. If I was not in my car I might've called him up and
 given him what's fur.

Didn't...no. No, but didn't  God I can't remember. Didn't Trent Reznor
do a production for a David Lynch film with all kinds of country stuff on
it. 'Lost Highway' That was the name of it! With like Patsy Clne on it.
Didn't Trent Reznor do that?  Am I totally lost, but isn't Trent Reznor one
of these wierd guys that *likes* country music. Or am I confusing him with
David Lynch. Or am I just confused...

Louise
--

If you like rocking country music, check out the Okeh Wranglers web site
at:

http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/bluesmoke




Texas Music Cafe Q?

1999-02-19 Thread TedSmouse

Hey,

  Does anyone know anything about the "Texas Music Cafe" TV show?  It's taped
in Waco, TX on Thurs nights.  distributed to PBS stations.

  I need to know stuff like:

Production  show quality

If anyone has ever HEARD OF the show

Has anyone ever SEEN the show

What TV MARKETS the show is being aired in

Opinions on artists/lineup presented

Quality of interviews conducted

If you have seen it, did you enjoy it

that sort of stuff.

  If anyone has any comments, I would appreciate receiving them.
OFF-LINE would be best!!  I am in P2 digest mode.

Thank you very, very much!!

Ted


Ted Smouse
Rockville, Maryland
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

*



Real Audio samples of Summer Teeth

1999-02-19 Thread Keith Meade


For those of you who have not yet heard the new Wilco album, you can find
Real Audio sound samples for seven of the songs from the album at the
following link:

http://content.ubl.com/store/listening_room/listening2a.html#wilco

Enjoy,

KM

np: Roger Clemens



Re: P2 bands @ SXSW?

1999-02-19 Thread James Gerard Roll


Neil et. al.,

I'll be playing SXSW Liberty Lunch at 9pm on Wednesday March 17th, with
the Silos as my band (Walter Salas-Humara on Drums!!). It should be fun.

As far as other P2 related bands go, I saw the Meat Purveyors on the list.
I'm sure there are more??

-jim


On Fri, 19 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So, in light of the SXW-bashing that went on in these parts earlier this week,
 are there any P2-related bands making the trek to SXSW this year? Curious for
 professional reasons. 
 
 Neal Weiss
 



Re: Nine Inch Nails in my Coffin

1999-02-19 Thread Moran/Vargo


 
 According to some DJ on Q101 (Chicagos Rock Alternative) The next Trent
 Reznor CD is going to be all Hank Williams covers. The DJ wasnt as
 excited as I was. If I was not in my car I might've called him up and
 given him what's fur.

Oh God, Ms. Scratchy is going to make my life a living hell!

Tom Moran
The Deliberate Strangers' Old Home Place
http://members.tripod.com/~Deliberate_Strangers/index.html



Re: Red Meat tourdates (April)

1999-02-19 Thread William F. Silvers



Brad Bechtel wrote:

 Everybody go see these guys.  They're the real thing, well worth your time and a few 
beers.

Hey no kidding Brad...but no KC/Lawrence tourdate on that list...(sniff)

b.s.



Re: Texas music

1999-02-19 Thread LindaRay64

How about Lone Star Swing?



Re: gig pay answer, (LONG)

1999-02-19 Thread LindaRay64

In a message dated 2/19/99 2:35:54 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Borders is a similar thing, but I get $150 cash, and $50 certificate. We
also
 get free food. These gigs are from 7:30 to 9:30 or 10, Fri and Sat nights.
The
 place is out of the way from most places I would play, so another gig the
same
 night is tough. They also sell cds they buy at wholesale. 

Sometimes you can work it so the store will let you sell your own CDs.  The
Evanston Borders does that all the time.   Very, very smart to bring your own
PA.  The store will have one rig they use for lectures, readings and solo
accoustic performers.  If you're really lucky they might have all of two fuzzy
vocal mikes, but probably one of the mike stands is missing.

Do not ever play a corp. bookstore or record store for free, just on general
principles.

Linda



Re: Damnations NY

1999-02-19 Thread Tom Smith

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 What the heck is it about whenever a band has a sibling harmony thing going,
 it's always a Louvin's comparison?

Haven't seen The Shaggs compared to Ira and Charlie yet . . . 
but maybe it's just a matter of time!

Tom Smith



Re: Twangfest (was Re: Half Mad Moon)

1999-02-19 Thread Danlee2

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Oh and btw, despite what Matt says, the Damnations are the *best* band in
  Austin. Is anyone else annoyed by his constant cheerleading for the Gourds
  or is it just me?

  Yeah, but that's just Matt.  I tend to give him a lot of leeway simply
because he contributes so many killer quotables... g.

dan

"Without [Paul Westerberg's] songs, what would we have?
Not just that, without his songs, what the hell would I be like? (Matt Cook)

"I know more than I am remembering." (Matt Cook)

(and if Purcell or anyone still has that great Cookster "ass-kicking" quote
I'd *kill* to get it from yagracias)



Re: Nine Inch Nails in my Coffin

1999-02-19 Thread Danlee2

  According to some DJ on Q101 (Chicagos Rock Alternative) The next Trent
   Reznor CD is going to be all Hank Williams covers. The DJ wasnt as
   excited as I was. If I was not in my car I might've called him up and
   given him what's fur.
  
   God.  Say it ain't so.

Aw, you guys obviously have no capacity for really bad art.  What's wrong
with you???g?  I'd be fascinated to hear it, if only once.

Dan, who still wants to hear that dang Pat Boone metal-covers rekkid.



Re: Bookstore gig question

1999-02-19 Thread Bell/Wrightson

Cheryl Cline wrote:
 
 I am now the proud part-owner of a very cool used bookshop. We want to
 do some in-store music thangs now and then.

Cheryl,

You might also want to check with Marquetta Herring who keeps the Townes
Van Zandt web site and the Texas Music Kitchen "for the sake of the
song."  Marq ownes a "very cool" used bookstore in Dallas, and they do
music/book readings etc. upstairs which Vince will be doing 12 March. 
Tell her I sent you if you get in touch.

TX Music Kitchen http://www.lonestarwebstation.com/txmusdex.html
Townes site: http://www.lonestarwebstation.com/txmusdex.html
Email is:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Speedy Price

1999-02-19 Thread William W Western

Mike Woods wrote:
   There's a steel guitar Speedy Price
  Not familiar with this name, but it sur sounds similar to Speedy
Krise the old dobro picker from away back. Or, steel player Speedy West.
Or NotsoSpeedy Western.
William W Western



Re: Chicago Reader

1999-02-19 Thread LindaRay64

In a message dated 2/19/99 1:22:55 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 Linda Ray also has a
 Bad Livers review, but I dont think thats on their web site. 

Yah, the Rock, etc. articles don't get to the web, but e-mail me if you want
to read it and I'll send it to you in text.  It's about Dust on the Bible.  It
was truly a P2 project and I thank all of you who helped, which were a lot of
you, with sources, references and ideas about Christian music and religious
music by secular artists.  Particularly, I owe Shiners, at least to Steve
Gardner for Sugar Hill dirt (relax, I didn't use any of it!), whoever it was
who put me onto that great Dime Store Prophets interview, Jon Weisberger for
being so nice about me not owning the Neil Rosenberg bluegrass bible, where
the answer was staring me in the face, and finally Bill Friskics-Warren for
referring me to Paul Tillich's Theology of Culture.  

I've known for over a year the point I wanted to make, but it ya know, you
can't just say stuff yourself in the newspaper like you can here.  Well like I
do here, anyway.

Thanks all.

Linda



Re: Chicago Reader

1999-02-19 Thread LindaRay64

By the way, I already owe a Shiner to Caliguri because Jon Weisberger said he
didn't like The Damnations.

Jon, it was The Mary Janes I gave you leave not to like.  Back to the CD
player.

g
Linda



Re: Kansas was Cowboys to Girls

1999-02-19 Thread Amy Haugesag

William Cocke writes:

Off the top of my head, Kansas was called "Bloody Kansas"
in the decade or so leading up to the Civil War because it
was a hotbed of unrest and violence due to the fact that it
wasn't certain which way it would enter the Union -- slave
or free. Thus it became sort of a magnet for extremists on
both sides of the slavery issue. Shoot-outs, murders,
lynchings, and what we would call terrorism today, all took
place in Kansas in the 1850s, as both sides tried to win
the upper hand. In a way it was a ghastly foreshadowing of
what was to come.

It's an interesting and mostly successful songwriting
attempt in an album full of good songs. I especially like
the imagery of (I'm paraphrasing here) the singer being
frightened of "an old man standing there hot as a pepper."
I get the image of some fanatical John Brown-type ready to
kill everyone in sight or maybe a bitter slaveowner come to
retrieve his "property." I don't know if the word
"salivating" used in the song was in common parlance at the
time, but poetic license I always say...

The John Brown image is one that comes to my mind when I hear the lines
William is referring to: "What we've all come to fear/Is a pepper on fire
like that old man."

The lyrics I've been able to decipher thus far are approximately:

I'm the law
I've been sent over yonder mountains
From the civilized side, this all looks so wild
A land that has never been tempered
Can't properly quench this savage call
What we've all come to fear
Is a pepper on fire like that old man
I don't know why you're standing there salivating
When folks have taken to naming
This Free Soiler state you're laying in
They say "Kansas, yeah, Kansas bleeding Kansas," back home

I'm fuzzier on the second verse, so I won't attempt to transcribe it here,
but it's got references to jayhawks and rifles and other Kansan sorts of
things. I can't begin to guess what prompted them to write it--maybe Amy
was reading Russell Banks' recent novel about John Brown--but I think it's
cool as hell, and I admit, a little reluctantly, to being pleased to see a
girl lyricist covering things other than conventional girl songwriter
topics--y'know, like love and that kind of thing. Before anybody flames me,
I'm not suggesting that Amy and Deborah are the first girls to write about
a range of topics other than l-u-v; I'm just admiring their lyrical
approach.

--Amy, who could talk about the Damnations all day long