Re: PB 1400cs CD-ROM Module Not Working? FIXED

[Fred Stevens K2FRD]

At 22:09 -0400 27/10/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>In a message dated 10/27/05 7:00:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>If the system CD is "home brewed," are you sure it is not just an install cd,
>w/o any OS of its own on the cd?

Is an Apple-created CD.

>
>One thing I try in these situations is the tried & true PRAM zap; sometimes
>it makes an unbootable cd-rom boot, for me at least.

One of the half-dozen or so 1400 sites I had checked out suggested a PRAM zap 
was a last resort.

>
>Okay, correct me if I am wrong listers, but you cannot swap any devices on
>the powerbook 1400 while it is on, can you? You have to swap the cd-rom/floppy
>modules while the laptop is sleep or off.

That's correct. All sorts of nasty message windows pop up threatening the 
offender with doom and gloom. I tried it anyway with no success.
>
>Did you try copying the disk tools system folder to your untitled HD?

Yes, it was one of the first fixes I tried, but it wouldn't copy to its own 
desktop unless I were to unlock the floppy which I was unwilling to do since it 
was the only means I had at the time to actually boot up the computer.
>
>Yes, you would have to either find a ethernet pc card or something, but
>nothing can be done until you get your 1400 up and running an OS.

I may still buy an ethernet card for the PB 1400cs. It's a solid machine, has a 
good reputation on various sites including Low End Mac, and is upgradeable. 
After I've got the bugs worked out, I'll decide how I'm gonna use it. And it's 
a lot easier to network two Macs rather than burn a CD on one to read on the 
other.

>
>Finally, as a last resort, you could see if anyone locally could assist you.

I'm so far out in the boonies of Arizona that the nearest other computer of any 
kind is probably 25 miles away. I'm a fulltime RVer at a tiny RV boondocking 
park in the middle of the desert using a portable tripod-mounted Direcway 
satellite internet system.

I want to thank everyone for ideas and suggestions. After I posted my message, 
I played around with the PowerBook some more. As a ham radio operator of many 
years, it occurred to me that maybe I just had a bad connection at the back of 
the CD-ROM module; I seemed to have been getting intermittent connection. So, I 
slid the module in and out a few times (it uses a different connector in its 
rear than does the floppy module) to polish up the contacts. I suddenly had a 
solid electrical contact, the PB recognized the CD-ROM drive, opened the CD, 
but quit after a few minutes. A little more sliding in and out and I had a 
solid connection and was able to install  OS 7.5.3 (not enough RAM for 8.6 or 
other 8.x or 9.x). I now have an operational PB 1400cs. I even installed 
ClarisWorks 4 (ho boy, I have worked with CL in years!).

BTW, I now have a fairly complete library of PB 1400 websites.

Thanks all!

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Re: PB 1400cs CD-ROM Module Not Working?

[Cameron Kaiser]

> Okay, correct me if I am wrong listers, but you cannot swap any devices on 
> the powerbook 1400 while it is on, can you? You have to swap the cd-rom/
> floppy modules while the laptop is sleep or off.

Correct. Hot-swapping on the 1400 == bad. Sleep it first.

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Re: PB 1400cs CD-ROM Module Not Working?

[GalBros]

In a message dated 10/27/05 7:00:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>My problem started when the PB arrived and I found the 
>previous owner had initialized the hard drive, so no operating 
>system. He had included a 7.5.3 system CD, but there was no CD-ROM 
>module. 

If the system CD is "home brewed," are you sure it is not just an install cd, 
w/o any OS of its own on the cd?

>So, I bought a 1400 6X CD-ROM off eBay so I could install an 
>OS. Removal of the floppy and insertion of the  CD-ROM drive was 
>simple, but when I boot up the PB using cmd-opt-shift-del for the 
>CD-ROM (the 1400 doesn't use the standard Mac "C" key command 
>although I tried this also) while turning the PB on doesn't work: 
>the drive's amber light blinks, I can hear the CD spool up, but the 
>screen shows only a floppy icon with a "?" in it. It does this for 
>about three minutes, then turns itself off. The machine included a 
>boot disk with 7.5.3 which works fine, but that's as far as I can 
>get. 

One thing I try in these situations is the tried & true PRAM zap; sometimes 
it makes an unbootable cd-rom boot, for me at least.

>I've tried removing the floppy drive after the PB is powered up 
>and replacing it with the CD-ROM drive, but all I get is nasty 
>windows stating I better replace the floppy drive or else. I am 
>assured by the seller of the CD-ROM module that it works.

Okay, correct me if I am wrong listers, but you cannot swap any devices on 
the powerbook 1400 while it is on, can you? You have to swap the cd-rom/floppy 
modules while the laptop is sleep or off.

>I tried copying the disk tools floppy to the desktop, but this didn't 
>work. In fact, I went into the disk tools floppy looking for 
>something (control panels, preferences, start up) which would do 
>anything. I ran Disk First Aid and it came up OK for the untitled 
>hard drive.

Did you try copying the disk tools system folder to your untitled HD?

>Networking with my iBook would be nice, but there isn't a single port 
>in common with the two machines; I do not like the idea of buying yet 
>more adaptors, cables (the PB came with various serial and SCSI 
>cables and adaptors), nor PC cards when I am not at all certain they 
>will work any better than the CD-ROM. I checked eBay and there are NO 
>operating system installations for 7.x nor 8.x on floppies (plenty on 
>CDs).

Yes, you would have to either find a ethernet pc card or something, but 
nothing can be done until you get your 1400 up and running an OS.

>Any suggestions or workarounds to either get the CD-ROM module to 
>work or to get an operating system onto this PowerBook or for 
>troubleshooting? I've researched the LEM site and didn't find any 
>hints.

First, I would try starting up the 1400 with the cd-rom installed, and zap 
the PRAM. Then, see if it sees the cd-rom (assuming the cd-rom has an OS on it, 
as discussed previously.

Failing that, you could put a copy of the boot floppy's system folder on the 
HD of the 1400, but I am doubtful it would see the cd-rom.

Finally, as a last resort, you could see if anyone locally could assist you.

Good luck,

Ivy F.

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Re: PB 1400cs CD-ROM Module Not Working?

[Ed Gibson]

Apple has OS 7.5.3 Posted on its site in floppy image format. If you can find 
someone close that can access the apple site you can download the 17 floppy 
set. I have it but don't remember exactually where you go on their site to find 
it but I'm sure someone on the list can tell you...

Good luck, ED

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Re: PB 1400cs CD-ROM Module Not Working?

[Tom and Lisa P]

I just purchased off eBay a PowerBook 1400cs with a floppy drive 
module; I have some old financial records on floppies and I need to 
access them, but my iBook 900 won't do it and can't be easily made 
to do it. My problem started when the PB arrived and I found the 
previous owner had initialized the hard drive, so no operating 
system. He had included a 7.5.3 system CD, but there was no CD-ROM 
module. So, I bought a 1400 6X CD-ROM off eBay so I could install an 
OS. Removal of the floppy and insertion of the  CD-ROM drive was 
simple, but when I boot up the PB using cmd-opt-shift-del for the 
CD-ROM (the 1400 doesn't use the standard Mac "C" key command 
although I tried this also) while turning the PB on doesn't work: 
the drive's amber light blinks, I can hear the CD spool up, but the 
screen shows only a floppy icon with a "?" in it. It does this for 
about three minutes, then turns itself off. The machine included a 
boot disk with 7.5.3 which works fine, but that's as far as I can 
get. I've tried removing the floppy drive after the PB is powered up 
and replacing it with the CD-ROM drive, but all I get is nasty 
windows stating I better replace the floppy drive or else. I am 
assured by the seller of the CD-ROM module that it works.


I tried copying the disk tools floppy to the desktop, but this 
didn't work. In fact, I went into the disk tools floppy looking for 
something (control panels, preferences, start up) which would do 
anything. I ran Disk First Aid and it came up OK for the untitled 
hard drive.


Networking with my iBook would be nice, but there isn't a single 
port in common with the two machines; I do not like the idea of 
buying yet more adaptors, cables (the PB came with various serial 
and SCSI cables and adaptors), nor PC cards when I am not at all 
certain they will work any better than the CD-ROM. I checked eBay 
and there are NO operating system installations for 7.x nor 8.x on 
floppies (plenty on CDs).


Any suggestions or workarounds to either get the CD-ROM module to 
work or to get an operating system onto this PowerBook or for 
troubleshooting? I've researched the LEM site and didn't find any 
hints.


This may or may not help you:

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/gionpeters//pb1400.htm

Mad Dog

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Re: PB 1400cs CD-ROM Module Not Working?

[Gerald Abreu]

Someone with more knowledge may have a better answer, but I think you  
can boot from the floppy then make a ram disk, copy over the system  
from the floppy and boot from the ram disk and then maybe install the  
cd operating system. YMMV, and good luck.





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PB 1400cs CD-ROM Module Not Working?

[Fred Stevens K2FRD]

I just purchased off eBay a PowerBook 1400cs with a floppy drive 
module; I have some old financial records on floppies and I need to 
access them, but my iBook 900 won't do it and can't be easily made to 
do it. My problem started when the PB arrived and I found the 
previous owner had initialized the hard drive, so no operating 
system. He had included a 7.5.3 system CD, but there was no CD-ROM 
module. So, I bought a 1400 6X CD-ROM off eBay so I could install an 
OS. Removal of the floppy and insertion of the  CD-ROM drive was 
simple, but when I boot up the PB using cmd-opt-shift-del for the 
CD-ROM (the 1400 doesn't use the standard Mac "C" key command 
although I tried this also) while turning the PB on doesn't work: 
the drive's amber light blinks, I can hear the CD spool up, but the 
screen shows only a floppy icon with a "?" in it. It does this for 
about three minutes, then turns itself off. The machine included a 
boot disk with 7.5.3 which works fine, but that's as far as I can 
get. I've tried removing the floppy drive after the PB is powered up 
and replacing it with the CD-ROM drive, but all I get is nasty 
windows stating I better replace the floppy drive or else. I am 
assured by the seller of the CD-ROM module that it works.


I tried copying the disk tools floppy to the desktop, but this didn't 
work. In fact, I went into the disk tools floppy looking for 
something (control panels, preferences, start up) which would do 
anything. I ran Disk First Aid and it came up OK for the untitled 
hard drive.


Networking with my iBook would be nice, but there isn't a single port 
in common with the two machines; I do not like the idea of buying yet 
more adaptors, cables (the PB came with various serial and SCSI 
cables and adaptors), nor PC cards when I am not at all certain they 
will work any better than the CD-ROM. I checked eBay and there are NO 
operating system installations for 7.x nor 8.x on floppies (plenty on 
CDs).


Any suggestions or workarounds to either get the CD-ROM module to 
work or to get an operating system onto this PowerBook or for 
troubleshooting? I've researched the LEM site and didn't find any 
hints.


Many thanks. It's also great being back on an older Mac list; I used 
to belong to the Vintage Macs list when I had my old IIvx.


Fred

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Re: how to prep 1400cs for sale

[Bruce Johnson]

On Sep 24, 2005, at 12:10 PM, Christie wrote:


or sale (and other items) on the
LEM-swap list; can anyone suggest other likely places
I could post, especially that might include the
Boston, MA, area?


If you want a local sale, try Craigslist .

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Re: how to prep 1400cs for sale

[Noah Wood]

First off use the SCSI connection to re-format the PB Hard Drive and
then re-install 9.1  Because 9.1 is such a new system, it should get
some good money on the net.  Look around for a Pawnshop in your area
if you don't want eBay, but eBay is a great way to get some good
money, if you haven't used eBay before, the buyer pays shipping.

On 9/24/05, Christie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am ready to sell my PB1400cs, am a computer user but
> not a techie, and need to know what's the best
> practice for a few things:
>
> - What is the best way to clean off personal files,
> preferences, etc.? It works fine as it is and I'd like
> to change the absolute minimum.
>
> Currently running 9.0 - have the CD (it doesn't have a
> CD drive - I use a SCSI connection to my PowerMac.) I
> also have the original disks shipped with the PB. I
> believe there are even a few folders on the HD holding
> the intermediary OS files, that say things like "OS8
> System Folder". Is there a utility already available
> which can clean this up? FYI I don't have a connection
> from the macs to the internet.
>
> - I will post this for sale (and other items) on the
> LEM-swap list; can anyone suggest other likely places
> I could post, especially that might include the
> Boston, MA, area? I would prefer to sell to someone
> local (New England) and not to get onto ebay, but
> please let me know if ebay really is a good idea
> anyway.
>
> FYI I'm posting a similar request on the PCI PowerMacs
> list.
>
> Thanks.
>
>

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how to prep 1400cs for sale

[Christie]

I am ready to sell my PB1400cs, am a computer user but
not a techie, and need to know what's the best
practice for a few things:

- What is the best way to clean off personal files,
preferences, etc.? It works fine as it is and I'd like
to change the absolute minimum.

Currently running 9.0 - have the CD (it doesn't have a
CD drive - I use a SCSI connection to my PowerMac.) I
also have the original disks shipped with the PB. I
believe there are even a few folders on the HD holding
the intermediary OS files, that say things like "OS8
System Folder". Is there a utility already available
which can clean this up? FYI I don't have a connection
from the macs to the internet.

- I will post this for sale (and other items) on the
LEM-swap list; can anyone suggest other likely places
I could post, especially that might include the
Boston, MA, area? I would prefer to sell to someone
local (New England) and not to get onto ebay, but
please let me know if ebay really is a good idea
anyway.

FYI I'm posting a similar request on the PCI PowerMacs
list.

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Re: New PowerBook 1400cs/133 with floppy problems

[Kirk Zathey]

Depending on which EtherMac Card you have, Blue Arrow or Red Arrow on 
top,
these links should help. I use one in my PB1400 and its is great.

For version 595a EtherMac Card, Red Arrow on front:
http://www.proxim.com/support/all/maccard/software/dl2001-09-10a.html
For version 595 & 895 EtherMac Card, Blue Arrow on front:
http://www.proxim.com/support/all/maccard/software/dl2001-09-10b.html
For all Farallon Ethernet Software:
http://www.proxim.com/support/all/maccard/software/index.html
Thanks for the URLs! I found a driver for the card, although I am not 
sure if it is the one I need, I will test it out, and if it does not 
work, I will try those URLs. I will also be sure not to swap the CD and 
floppy without sleeping first. Thanks.

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Re: New PowerBook 1400cs/133 with floppy problems

[Kenneth Vann]

On Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004  Kirk Zathey said:

> Once I zapped my PRAM and restarted with the floppy it
>worked, and I could swap them without sleeping,

(Snip)

The Expansion Bay Modules for the PowerBook 1400 Cannot Be Hot Swapped.
This can cause serious damage to the Module or logic board.
Always sleep or turn off the computer to swap modules.

> I am also wondering where I can get drivers for a
>Farallon EtherMac card? I currently have access to one and I am
>considering purchasing one.

Depending on which EtherMac Card you have, Blue Arrow or Red Arrow on top,
these links should help. I use one in my PB1400 and its is great.

For version 595a EtherMac Card, Red Arrow on front:

http://www.proxim.com/support/all/maccard/software/dl2001-09-10a.html


For version 595 & 895 EtherMac Card, Blue Arrow on front:

http://www.proxim.com/support/all/maccard/software/dl2001-09-10b.html


For all Farallon Ethernet Software:
http://www.proxim.com/support/all/maccard/software/index.html

Windows drivers are available for the 595a card, if you need to share.

There may be other resources for Farallon Software, but finding them is
hard to do. Proxim purchased the Farallon products while they were in
Bankruptcy. So far only a small amount of the Farallon Software has ever
been posted.

Farallon Software for the Skyline series of wireless cards and adaptors can
be found by following the links on my wireless FAQ page.

After Proxim dropped production and sale of the Skyline cards, they were
taken over by a group of former Farallon engineers, and they formed
MacWireless.com.

Also, if you are thinking about adding Wireless to your PowerBook 1400,
read the trouble shooting questions on my FAQ before you install the
EtherMac Software. Software for Wired and Wireless Ethernet will not
coexist peacefully on a PowerBook 1400.


Ken Vann




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Re: New PowerBook 1400cs/133 with floppy problems

[Kirk Zathey]

Hello,
	I did not get a chance to reply earlier, but I zapped my PRAM and then 
it seemed to work. It could have been that I was swapping them out 
without sleeping or shutting down, but even when I restarted it did not 
seem to work. Once I zapped my PRAM and restarted with the floppy it 
worked, and I could swap them without sleeping, but if I used the CD 
and then restarted, I would get the same problem. Weird? Anyways, at 
least it works. I am also wondering where I can get drivers for a 
Farallon EtherMac card? I currently have access to one and I am 
considering purchasing one. I may install an active matrix screen off 
of a broken 1400c if I can find one in a local trash bin, should this 
pose any problems? Also, I had a 16MB memory chip with another 
available slot on the top, and I found a 32MB chip off of another 
broken 1400cs. When I tried putting them together, I should have gotten 
64MB of RAM, with the built-in 16MB and the 16MB+32MB chips, but when I 
tried this setup, I encountered a sad mac. When I try the 16MB alone, 
or the 32MB alone, they both work. So, for now I am using just the 32MB 
chip, giving my 48MB of RAM. Anyone know how I can get both of these to 
work. Anyways, thanks very much for your responses.

Kirk Zathey
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Re: New PowerBook 1400cs/133 with floppy problems

[Kenneth Vann]

On Dec 7, 2004 Kirk Z wrote:

>I recently obtained a great condition PowerBook 1400cs/133 from a
>local trash bin. I have both a CD-ROM and a floppy. I think the floppy
>may have been working before although I cannot remember. I used the
>CD-ROM to install Mac OS 9.1 as my copy of 8.5 had problems (download
>copy). Everything works great except when I insert the floppy I get an
>error saying, "The correct software you need to use the PC Card in the
>"Expansion Bay" is not installed. Do you want to eject the card now?"
>Does anyone have any ideas on how I could get this to work? Thanks.

The error message you have is usually when the software for a PCMCIA PC
Card is not installed or damaged. I have never seen it occur with a floppy
disk, but I have the following suggestions.

Your PowerBook must be in Sleep Mode, or OFF, to change the Floppy
Expansion Bay Module. If you are getting this error message when inserting
a floppy disk into the floppy drive, then either the floppy disk is bad, or
your install of the OS is bad.

Switching between Floppy and CD-ROM Expansion Bays can sometimes be
troublesome if you have Energy Savings set to low.

Use you Apple System Profiler to see if it sees the floppy drive.

If not then check the contact on the rear of the Expansion Bay Module and
see if any are damaged or missing. Also check the contacts in the PowerBook
and see if there is any damage.

Last but not least. The PowerBook 1400 only accepts Expansion Bay Modules
in the Right Hand Bay. A extra battery may be installed in the right hand
bay for storage, but it does not charge in that bay.

If it is the floppy disk, e-mail me off list, as I have a extra good
working Floppy Expansion Bay Module.

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Re: New PowerBook 1400cs/133 with floppy problems

[Malcolm Cornelius]

>> I recently obtained a great condition PowerBook 1400cs/133 from a
>> local trash bin. I have both a CD-ROM and a floppy. I think the floppy
>> may have been working before although I cannot remember. I used the
>> CD-ROM to install Mac OS 9.1 as my copy of 8.5 had problems (download
>> copy). Everything works great except when I insert the floppy I get an
>> error saying, "The correct software you need to use the PC Card in the
>> "Expansion Bay" is not installed. Do you want to eject the card now?"
>> Does anyone have any ideas on how I could get this to work? Thanks.
>> 
>> Kirk Zathey
> 
> Hazarding a guess here but I'd try two things. One would be to check if the
> floppy/Cd are hot swappable. They are on my 3400C but don't know about the
> 1400.

Sleep swappable on a 1400.

I have seen this problem before, but can't remember the solution, I suspect
it is either a bad module or a bad connector on the 1400 logic board - the
floppy and CD connectors are different.

Can you borrow a known good floppy and try it out ?

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Re: New PowerBook 1400cs/133 with floppy problems

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From: "Kirk Zathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: New PowerBook 1400cs/133 with floppy problems


> Hello,
>
> I recently obtained a great condition PowerBook 1400cs/133 from a
> local trash bin. I have both a CD-ROM and a floppy. I think the floppy
> may have been working before although I cannot remember. I used the
> CD-ROM to install Mac OS 9.1 as my copy of 8.5 had problems (download
> copy). Everything works great except when I insert the floppy I get an
> error saying, "The correct software you need to use the PC Card in the
> "Expansion Bay" is not installed. Do you want to eject the card now?"
> Does anyone have any ideas on how I could get this to work? Thanks.
>
> Kirk Zathey

Hazarding a guess here but I'd try two things. One would be to check if the
floppy/Cd are hot swappable. They are on my 3400C but don't know about the
1400. If they aren't, then boot with the floppy in. Or try resetting the
pram. Don't know the key strokes for that but they're easy to find. The
computer may have had a PC card adapter at one time and things could be set
for it. Just a guess.

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New PowerBook 1400cs/133 with floppy problems

[Kirk Zathey]

Hello,
	I recently obtained a great condition PowerBook 1400cs/133 from a 
local trash bin. I have both a CD-ROM and a floppy. I think the floppy 
may have been working before although I cannot remember. I used the 
CD-ROM to install Mac OS 9.1 as my copy of 8.5 had problems (download 
copy). Everything works great except when I insert the floppy I get an 
error saying, "The correct software you need to use the PC Card in the 
"Expansion Bay" is not installed. Do you want to eject the card now?" 
Does anyone have any ideas on how I could get this to work? Thanks.

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Re: Problems with 1400CS CD-ROM drive

[Cekepler]

I had a similar situation a few months ago and eventually found out that one of the 
connector pins at the back of the unit was bent down, which interfered with the 
ability of the drive to function properly. The other connectors were in place, so the 
unit "seemed" to be connected properly but couldn't "read" the CDs. My son managed to 
sllllyyy bend the pin back into place and I have since been extremely careful 
when inserting the module and it is working. Good luck.
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Re: Iomega Clik! and Powerbook 1400cs

[Nathan Templeton]

victoria Duggan wrote:

I'm not talking about the PocketZip Drive but the
Clik! PCMCIA card drive.  Will the same driver work on
both?
Thanks.
Karl.

 Gleening information for the archives, I would venture to say no on 
this one for two reasons:

   1) 1400cs are PCI based machines ( Know this can be an issue with 
certain modem cards, usb, etc)
 2.) The PC Card slot on the 1400's is a 16bit cardbus 
architecture, which causing the above mentioned incompatiablities.. 
However I know there are others out there that could give you a 
better overview..

-hth
-nathan
Hi all
I have one of these click drives sat doing nothing here in my bag.
As for the question about do they work in powerbooks.
In a way NO!  well thats what i have found.
 I have tried the click drive with the iomega software and the drives 
are just not seen by any of the books i tried them in.

These are
5300c / 1400cs/ 3400 / 190/ Wallstreet / Lombard.
And i think that the 1400 is built around NUBUS same as the 5300 
series. not PCI

Vicki

Thanks for that Vicki, the 1400s are NUBUS.. That was a typo on my part..
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Re: Iomega Clik! and Powerbook 1400cs

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I'm not talking about the PocketZip Drive but the
Clik! PCMCIA card drive.  Will the same driver work on
both?
Thanks.
Karl.

 Gleening information for the archives, I would venture to say no on 
this one for two reasons:

   1) 1400cs are PCI based machines ( Know this can be an issue with 
certain modem cards, usb, etc)
 2.) The PC Card slot on the 1400's is a 16bit cardbus 
architecture, which causing the above mentioned incompatiablities.. 
However I know there are others out there that could give you a better 
overview..

-hth
-nathan
Hi all
I have one of these click drives sat doing nothing here in my bag.
As for the question about do they work in powerbooks.
In a way NO!  well thats what i have found.
 I have tried the click drive with the iomega software and the drives 
are just not seen by any of the books i tried them in.

These are
5300c / 1400cs/ 3400 / 190/ Wallstreet / Lombard.
And i think that the 1400 is built around NUBUS same as the 5300 series. 
not PCI

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Re: Iomega Clik! and Powerbook 1400cs

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Karl Miller wrote:
I'm not talking about the PocketZip Drive but the
Clik! PCMCIA card drive.  Will the same driver work on
both?
Thanks.
Karl.
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   1) 1400cs are PCI based machines ( Know this can be an issue with 
certain modem cards, usb, etc)
  
   2.) The PC Card slot on the 1400's is a 16bit cardbus architecture, 
which causing the above mentioned incompatiablities.. However I know 
there are others out there that could give you a better overview..

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Re: Iomega Clik! and Powerbook 1400cs

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I'm not talking about the PocketZip Drive but the
Clik! PCMCIA card drive.  Will the same driver work on
both?

Thanks.

Karl.


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Re: Iomega Clik! and Powerbook 1400cs

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Iomega Clik! and Powerbook 1400cs

[Karl Miller]

Hi there!

Is there any Godly (or, semi-Godly) way to use a
Iomega Clik! PCMCIA card drive with a Powerbook
1400cs?  They're s cheap and the disks are sooo
cute, that it seems a perfect match, but iomega.com
doesn't have any drivers for it.  

Any advice will be taken gladly.

ps. the advice on the CD-ROM drive worked!  Thanks!

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Re: Problems with 1400CS CD-ROM drive

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Hi there!
I recently acquired a supposedly new CD-ROM drive for
my 1400cs, but when I insert a CD (either audio or
data), it spins around and nothing comes up.  The
little yellow light just keeps blinking.  The system
profiler recognizes that the CD-ROM drive is indeed
there, but I can't get anything off of it.  Am I doing
something wrong?  Is there something that I have to do
to get the 1400 to recognize the drive?  Or, am I just
postponing the inevitable?
All suggestions are gladly accepted.
Thanks.
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Re: Problems with 1400CS CD-ROM drive

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One source is www.pure-mac.com, they have a large site dedicated to mac. Go to the 
category system 
and click on drivers. There are a pile of product name specific drivers there that 
might work.
Also try a search on www.vivisimo.com, it is a cluster search engine. It will separate 
your search into 
categories saving you tons of time looking at all the hits.try a search for 
downloads and for 
updates, for the cd manufacturer in question. You should hit something.

> 
> From: Karl Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2004/10/27 Wed PM 03:15:15 EST
> To: "PowerBooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Problems with 1400CS CD-ROM drive
> 
> Thanks for the info.!  Is there anyone who can provide
> a link to the driver page?  I'm having a devil of a
> time finding one.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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> 
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> > Sounds like it's the actual drive that's the
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> > driver install 
> > updates on the net, they are readily available.  We
> > have had the same type of problem occur on our 
> > desktop Mac equipment and new drivers has solved the
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> > > From: Karl Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: 2004/10/27 Wed PM 01:20:44 EST
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> > > Hi there!
> > > 
> > > I recently acquired a supposedly new CD-ROM drive
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> > > data), it spins around and nothing comes up.  The
> > > little yellow light just keeps blinking.  The
> > system
> > > profiler recognizes that the CD-ROM drive is
> > indeed
> > > there, but I can't get anything off of it.  Am I
> > doing
> > > something wrong?  Is there something that I have
> > to do
> > > to get the 1400 to recognize the drive?  Or, am I
> > just
> > > postponing the inevitable?
> > > 
> > > All suggestions are gladly accepted.
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Re: Problems with 1400CS CD-ROM drive

[Karl Miller]

Thanks for the info.!  Is there anyone who can provide
a link to the driver page?  I'm having a devil of a
time finding one.

Thanks.

Karl.


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> Sounds like it's the actual drive that's the
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> > From: Karl Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 2004/10/27 Wed PM 01:20:44 EST
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> > Subject: Problems with 1400CS CD-ROM drive
> > 
> > Hi there!
> > 
> > I recently acquired a supposedly new CD-ROM drive
> for
> > my 1400cs, but when I insert a CD (either audio or
> > data), it spins around and nothing comes up.  The
> > little yellow light just keeps blinking.  The
> system
> > profiler recognizes that the CD-ROM drive is
> indeed
> > there, but I can't get anything off of it.  Am I
> doing
> > something wrong?  Is there something that I have
> to do
> > to get the 1400 to recognize the drive?  Or, am I
> just
> > postponing the inevitable?
> > 
> > All suggestions are gladly accepted.
> > 
> > Thanks.
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Re: Problems with 1400CS CD-ROM drive

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Sounds like it's the actual drive that's the problem. You may have to reinstall or 
look for driver install 
updates on the net, they are readily available.  We have had the same type of problem 
occur on our 
desktop Mac equipment and new drivers has solved the problem...
> 
> From: Karl Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2004/10/27 Wed PM 01:20:44 EST
> To: "PowerBooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Problems with 1400CS CD-ROM drive
> 
> Hi there!
> 
> I recently acquired a supposedly new CD-ROM drive for
> my 1400cs, but when I insert a CD (either audio or
> data), it spins around and nothing comes up.  The
> little yellow light just keeps blinking.  The system
> profiler recognizes that the CD-ROM drive is indeed
> there, but I can't get anything off of it.  Am I doing
> something wrong?  Is there something that I have to do
> to get the 1400 to recognize the drive?  Or, am I just
> postponing the inevitable?
> 
> All suggestions are gladly accepted.
> 
> Thanks.
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Problems with 1400CS CD-ROM drive

[Karl Miller]

Hi there!

I recently acquired a supposedly new CD-ROM drive for
my 1400cs, but when I insert a CD (either audio or
data), it spins around and nothing comes up.  The
little yellow light just keeps blinking.  The system
profiler recognizes that the CD-ROM drive is indeed
there, but I can't get anything off of it.  Am I doing
something wrong?  Is there something that I have to do
to get the 1400 to recognize the drive?  Or, am I just
postponing the inevitable?

All suggestions are gladly accepted.

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Re: 1400cs and PC Cards

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At 12:59 PM -0700 10/4/04, Dennis Davis wrote:
I have a friend who has a 1400cs. He has a Noteworthy PCMCIA Type II
FAX-Modem made by Toshiba.
Will this PC Card FAX-Modem work with his PowerBook? Does he need a driver or
script to make it work?

He shouldn't need a driver but will need a script.  You could likely 
use one of the generic Hayes scripts.

He is also getting a PC Card Ethernet one, will this work with his 1400cs?
I think it is a Netgear PC Card.
Probably not.  For this you definitely need a driver.  The best bet 
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Re: 1400cs and PC Cards

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My Reply follows quote. On 04/10/2004 12:59 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:  

>I have a friend who has a 1400cs. He has a Noteworthy PCMCIA Type II
>FAX-Modem made by Toshiba.
>
>Will this PC Card FAX-Modem work with his PowerBook? Does he need a driver or
>script to make it work?
>
>He is also getting a PC Card Ethernet one, will this work with his 1400cs?
>
>I think it is a Netgear PC Card.

I expect that you will need Mac drivers for both cards. At least, all
the ethernet and modem cards I have stuck in my 1400cs (OS 9.1) needed
them.

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Will this PC Card FAX-Modem work with his PowerBook? Does he need a driver or
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Re: Browser problems - PB 1400cs

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Bruce Johnson wrote:

> Nope, it's just Earthlink. Something was messed up with their end,
> because that's the part that handles passing out those addresses. It's
> entirely possible that someone other than the folks helping you fixed
> what they thought was an unrelated problem on their servers.

Maybe, maybe. But my problem goes back to last June. In San Diego I browsed
for two days then the problem popped up. Back home it worked OK as a test,
then in Wisconsin no success at all, then back home (Rhode Island) no
success until yesterday. I hope it WAS Earthlink and that they fixed it
because I'm off to San Diego again tomorrow. (I hear those jealous sighs!)

Adrian wrote:

> Do you by any chance have two conflicting PPP prefs files or any
> other duplicate files from previous installs of OS or Browser?
> 
> File Buddy (free download makes these easy to find and weed out.
> 
> And, ( just my opinion here ) I would never put IE  on the same boot
> partition with NS. . It never worked for me.
> But I admit a bias toward NS.  There always seemed to be some IE file
> or other causing NS to crash.

Thanks, Adrian; I'll download that app.

I only installed NS as a last resort after IE and iCab wouldn't work. NS is
now gone...

Drew wrote:

> Just because I'm curious, how did you manage to use a live chat
> option if you didn't have an IP address?  Most of those things
> require some sort of TCP/IP connectivity (though there are still some
> bulletin boards and terminals out there - that option seems unlikely
> to me)...  It seems to me that if you could get into a chat, you
> should have been able to browse the web...
> 
> Or do you mean "live chat" in the sense that you are chatting with a
> LIVE person on the phone? ;-)

I have my trusty Ruby iMac 400MHz DV desktop at home on a Verizon DSL hookup
- just a few clicks away from "Cassie S." the Earthlink guru (who more or
less threw up her virtual hands after a while, told me to download the
FreePPP dialer, and closed the session.)

Thanks to all. I'll update when I return from Paradise - ah, San Diego...


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Re: Browser problems - PB 1400cs

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After four Earthlink Support e-mails which didn't help, I used their live
chat option. The guru gave me Name Server Addresses to add into my TCP/IP
control panel. (I was set up to use PPP.) The addresses given to me were
totally different from the ones the Earthlink Wizard had configured.
Anyway, I restart the 'puter and dial up, make the connection (as usual) and
... no fix. Explorer won't browse, iCab won't browse, Netscape won't browse.
The guru gives me a link to a FreePPP dialer which I install and configure.
I dial up using FreePPP, make the connection and ... no fix. Explorer won't
browse, iCab won't browse, Netscape won't browse.
Just because I'm curious, how did you manage to use a live chat 
option if you didn't have an IP address?  Most of those things 
require some sort of TCP/IP connectivity (though there are still some 
bulletin boards and terminals out there - that option seems unlikely 
to me)...  It seems to me that if you could get into a chat, you 
should have been able to browse the web...

Or do you mean "live chat" in the sense that you are chatting with a 
LIVE person on the phone? ;-)

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Re: Browser problems - PB 1400cs

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Dan in AZ wrote:
Thanks to all who have pitched in with suggestions. Here's the latest:
After four Earthlink Support e-mails which didn't help, I used their live
chat option. The guru gave me Name Server Addresses to add into my TCP/IP
control panel. (I was set up to use PPP.) The addresses given to me were
totally different from the ones the Earthlink Wizard had configured.
Anyway, I restart the 'puter and dial up, make the connection (as usual) and
... no fix. Explorer won't browse, iCab won't browse, Netscape won't browse.
The guru gives me a link to a FreePPP dialer which I install and configure.
I dial up using FreePPP, make the connection and ... no fix. Explorer won't
browse, iCab won't browse, Netscape won't browse.
Then, for the heck of it, I reconfigure TCP/IP back to PPP, dial up and, LO
AND BEHOLD - IE BROWSES! Ditto iCab & Netscape. And I notice that the TCP/IP
panel now shows an IP address in the proper field. I checked the activity
log and it reveals that that was the first time in over fifty connections
when an IP address showed up.
I tempt fate: I restart the 'puter, dial up ... NO BROWSE! I reconfigure to
FreePPP, YES BROWSE! Back to PPP, YES BROWSE again!
So it seems that, for whatever reason, sometimes a connection will deliver
and IP address and I can browse and sometimes it won't and I can't.
Are the gods toying with me...?
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other duplicate files from previous installs of OS or Browser?

File Buddy (free download makes these easy to find and weed out.
And, ( just my opinion here ) I would never put IE  on the same boot 
partition with NS. . It never worked for me.
But I admit a bias toward NS.  There always seemed to be some IE file 
or other causing NS to crash.

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Re: Browser problems - PB 1400cs

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On Aug 4, 2004, at 9:19 AM, William Damkoehler wrote:
I tempt fate: I restart the 'puter, dial up ... NO BROWSE! I 
reconfigure to
FreePPP, YES BROWSE! Back to PPP, YES BROWSE again!

So it seems that, for whatever reason, sometimes a connection will 
deliver
and IP address and I can browse and sometimes it won't and I can't.

Are the gods toying with me...?
Nope, it's just Earthlink. Something was messed up with their end, 
because that's the part that handles passing out those addresses. It's 
entirely possible that someone other than the folks helping you fixed 
what they thought was an unrelated problem on their servers.

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Re: Browser problems - PB 1400cs

[William Damkoehler]

Dan in AZ wrote:

> Sounds like configuration of your browser to work with the connection - as
> long as you say you are connected.  In Netscape 4.xx it is under Edit, then
> Preferences..., then set your Identity and Mail Servers correctly.  You must
> have a different profile for each connection - different for your dialup and
> your DSL.  Do a search in your finder for "profile manager".  Open it and set
> your profile.
> 
> Mine is set to my login name on Earthlink, my password that I gave to
> Earthlink, and the other settings that Earthlink gives: mine was
> mail.earthlink.net
> 
> I have a dialup connection with earthlink.  A DSL connection should not be
> that different except for maybe the outgoing mail server name.  You can access
> the same email account for each profile, but you need a different "outgoing
> mail server" for each type of connection, I'll bet.  Hope this helps.  If not
> let me know what your luck is and what you have tried.
> 
> Dan in AZ
> 
> William Damkoehler wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I have no trouble making the Earthlink connection via my modem card. The
>> problem is that no browser will work once the connection is made. Not
>> Internet Explorer, iCab or Netscape.

Thanks to all who have pitched in with suggestions. Here's the latest:

After four Earthlink Support e-mails which didn't help, I used their live
chat option. The guru gave me Name Server Addresses to add into my TCP/IP
control panel. (I was set up to use PPP.) The addresses given to me were
totally different from the ones the Earthlink Wizard had configured.

Anyway, I restart the 'puter and dial up, make the connection (as usual) and
... no fix. Explorer won't browse, iCab won't browse, Netscape won't browse.

The guru gives me a link to a FreePPP dialer which I install and configure.
I dial up using FreePPP, make the connection and ... no fix. Explorer won't
browse, iCab won't browse, Netscape won't browse.

Then, for the heck of it, I reconfigure TCP/IP back to PPP, dial up and, LO
AND BEHOLD - IE BROWSES! Ditto iCab & Netscape. And I notice that the TCP/IP
panel now shows an IP address in the proper field. I checked the activity
log and it reveals that that was the first time in over fifty connections
when an IP address showed up.

I tempt fate: I restart the 'puter, dial up ... NO BROWSE! I reconfigure to
FreePPP, YES BROWSE! Back to PPP, YES BROWSE again!

So it seems that, for whatever reason, sometimes a connection will deliver
and IP address and I can browse and sometimes it won't and I can't.

Are the gods toying with me...?


-Bill





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Re: Browser problems - PB 1400cs

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Sounds like configuration of your browser to work with the connection - as
long as you say you are connected.  In Netscape 4.xx it is under Edit, then
Preferences..., then set your Identity and Mail Servers correctly.  You must
have a different profile for each connection - different for your dialup and
your DSL.  Do a search in your finder for "profile manager".  Open it and set
your profile.

Mine is set to my login name on Earthlink, my password that I gave to
Earthlink, and the other settings that Earthlink gives: mine was
mail.earthlink.net

I have a dialup connection with earthlink.  A DSL connection should not be
that different except for maybe the outgoing mail server name.  You can access
the same email account for each profile, but you need a different "outgoing
mail server" for each type of connection, I'll bet.  Hope this helps.  If not
let me know what your luck is and what you have tried.

Dan in AZ

William Damkoehler wrote:

>
> I have no trouble making the Earthlink connection via my modem card. The
> problem is that no browser will work once the connection is made. Not
> Internet Explorer, iCab or Netscape.


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Re: Browser problems - PB 1400cs

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>I've done every procedure that Earthlink Support suggests to "resolve the
>problem" but to no avail...

Which is why I totally abandoned Earthlink's software after the first, 
successful home connection, using the modem card, had been made.

You make this connection to setup your Earthlink password and to get the 
Earthink DNS addresses. Also, to get the phone numbers which are local to 
your likely away sites, although this can be done any time, once you have 
your home site working.

Now, with the account setup properly, at least for your home site, you 
grab copies of the Modem and TCP/IP control panels and you make these 
copies your defaults. Subsequent away sites will be cloned from the 
originals. Also, you make a note of the DNS addresses which Earthlink 
gave you.

Now, when you are away, you clone your Modem and TCP/IP control panels 
from the original ones, install the new away number, and ensure that the 
DNS address is correct.

Failure to load pages when away is usually related to the DNS address 
being wrong, which is why you need to get on-line from your home site, 
using Earthlink's software, just once, and them you grab that DNS address 
or addresses.

You may have to insert "earthlink.net" in the "Search domains" field of 
the TCP/IP control panel.

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Re: Browser problems - PB 1400cs

[William Damkoehler]

I was offered this advice:

> Be sure to establish separate home (DSL) and away (modem) configurations
> for both the TCP/IP and Open Transport control panels.

But I don't have a control panel for Open Transport - just an extension.

I have no trouble making the Earthlink connection via my modem card. The
problem is that no browser will work once the connection is made. Not
Internet Explorer, iCab or Netscape.

The really frustrating thing is that just before I went on the road I
checked it out and it worked fine. Then, on the road, nothing. It connected
fine but no pages would open, and I swear I did nothing to change any
configurations!

I've done every procedure that Earthlink Support suggests to "resolve the
problem" but to no avail...

Sigh...


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Re: Browser problems - PB 1400cs

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>I'm having a frustrating problem with my browser(s). I had my 1400cs set up
>for DSL with an ethernet PC card and all was going well. Last week I needed
>to take the 'Book on the road ...

Be sure to establish separate home (DSL) and away (modem) configurations 
for both the TCP/IP and Open Transport control panels.

My home 'net access is through Earthlink, but via a router which also 
performs all the PPPoE login functions.

My away 'net access is through an Earthlink local access number, using a 
3Com/USR 56K PC card modem.

Consequently, I maintain default TCP/IP and Open Transport 
configurations, which are simply the Apple supplied configurations, and 
in addition I maintain "Home DSL" and "Away Earthlink" configurations.

I always test the "Away Earthlink" configurations before going on the 
road, substituting my home area code local access number for the expected 
away area code number.

For my 1400s, I use the above-mentioned PC card modem (and a 3Com 
EtherFast card).

For my Kanga, I use the builtin modem (36 kB)/e-net connector (a single 
RJ-45 supports both).

For my WS II, I use the builtin modem (56 kB) and the builtin e-net 
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Browser problems - PB 1400cs

[William Damkoehler]

Hi, Listers.


I'm having a frustrating problem with my browser(s). I had my 1400cs set up
for DSL with an ethernet PC card and all was going well. Last week I needed
to take the 'Book on the road.

Before the trip I reverted to my Global Village 56k modem PC card and
checked my local dialup to earthlink. All went well. Internet Explorer 5.1
and iCab 2.9.7 both browsed admirably on the dialup. Off I went to
Wisconsin.

In the Dairy State, I dialed the local earthlink access #, made the
connection, but the browsers wouldn't open any pages. None. Zip. Zilch. As
far as I know, I had changed nothing.

Back home now, I used the earthlink Wizard to troubleshoot and it reported
all was "OK." I used my trusty local number and made the connection but
still no pages would open - neither in IE, iCab, nor Netscape; and all were
proxy disabled. IE says "attempt to load URL ... failed." iCab reports
"Network error #-3208." Netscape reports "Unable to make network socket
connection."

Anybody have a clue?

Thanks.


-Bill


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Re: PSION Dacom Godl card in 1400cs

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on 11/05/04 22:26, Mark Benson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> A friend of mine has a 1400cs and has just bought a PSION Dacom Gold
> combined 10MBit NIC and 56k Fax Modem. He wants to know if any drivers
> exist for it for MAc OS 8.6 so he can run it on his laptop.
> 
> Anyone got any ideas?

Modem should work, the Ethernet bit isn't supported.

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A friend of mine has a 1400cs and has just bought a PSION Dacom Gold 
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Re: PowerBook 1400cs & Mac OS 8

[Joe]

Well, the CD is a bit old and its been fumbled around a bit.  I'll get
TomeView(or whatever its called) and attempt to extract it.  If worse
comes to worse, I'll just copy it from my System 7.5.5 or Mac OS 9.2
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Re: PowerBook 1400cs & Mac OS 8

[Andrew Kershaw]

Well, I was just fumbling with the installer, and I found that the
Trackpad control panel is causing the problems. I got the system
installed, works great, the CD isnt machine specific. I know the error
you're referring to, but that's only if you don't dig deep enough. If
you go through the Full Install Pieces folder, the whole Mac OS 8
installer is there.
Well you learn something new every day!  I didn't know the workaround 
was _that_ easy...  I'm glad you got the installer working.  Can you 
now just unpack the Trackpad control panel from the Tome manually or 
is it totally corrupted?  It seems odd that a system installer would 
have that particular problem - you'd think Apple would have 
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Re: PowerBook 1400cs & Mac OS 8

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Well, I was just fumbling with the installer, and I found that the
Trackpad control panel is causing the problems.  I got the system
installed, works great, the CD isnt machine specific.  I know the error
you're referring to, but that's only if you don't dig deep enough.  If
you go through the Full Install Pieces folder, the whole Mac OS 8
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Re: PowerBook 1400cs & Mac OS 8

[Dana Collins]

Hello Joe,
You have the wrong CD for your unit. OS Install CDs will generally come in
two flavors, retail versions (which recognizes all targeted units as
supported, and will install the OS on any of them), and machine-specific
versions, which are shipped with the unit, and are intended to be used only
for the target unit's model type (these CDs have an OS enabler of sorts in
their system folder that, iirc, communicate with the unit's ROM type to
establish recognition). Your CD is expecting a G3 unit - I am surprised that
you get as far as you do in the install process - most of my colleagues that
have tried your route usually receive an error message just after clicking
the install button.

Cast your net out over the swap-list, requesting a retail version of OS 8.1
to buy.
Best regards,
Dana
On 4/3/04 5:17 PM, Joe of [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent

> I have a PowerBook 1400cs and a PowerMac G3 CD.  On the CD, there is the
> Full Install Pieces folder, and there is an installer.  When I do the
> Easy Install, the installer fails mid-way when it says "Finishing
> Installation...".  When I do a Custom Installation and choose Core
> System Software, the install goes perfectly, but the system is useless,
> as it has no functionality.  Is this a CD issue or an issue of a screwed
> up computer?
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I have a PowerBook 1400cs and a PowerMac G3 CD.  On the CD, there is the
Full Install Pieces folder, and there is an installer.  When I do the
Easy Install, the installer fails mid-way when it says "Finishing
Installation...".  When I do a Custom Installation and choose Core
System Software, the install goes perfectly, but the system is useless,
as it has no functionality.  Is this a CD issue or an issue of a screwed
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Re: Installing System 7 on a 1400cs

[Michael Druckenmiller Jr.]

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Subject: Re: Installing System 7 on a 1400cs


> Joe, email me off list and I'll send you a copy from my 7.5.3 PB 
> Installer CD. I'm surprised it wasn't on the Apple site.
> 
> eloxathotdotrrdotcom
> 
> On Mar 28, 2004, at 1:03 AM, Joe wrote:
> 
> > The PowerBook 1400 Enabler isnt on Apples' site though.  I'm hoping
> > theres a ResEdit hack out there to do this.
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Re: Installing System 7 on a 1400cs

[William Wiseman]

Joe, email me off list and I'll send you a copy from my 7.5.3 PB 
Installer CD. I'm surprised it wasn't on the Apple site.

eloxathotdotrrdotcom

On Mar 28, 2004, at 1:03 AM, Joe wrote:

The PowerBook 1400 Enabler isnt on Apples' site though.  I'm hoping
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Re: Installing System 7 on a 1400cs

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The PowerBook 1400 Enabler isnt on Apples' site though.  I'm hoping
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Re: Installing System 7 on a 1400cs

[Clark Martin]

At 9:14 PM -0500 3/26/04, Joe wrote:
I have a PowerBook 1400cs, 117Mhz, 48MB RAM, 750MB HD, and I tried to
install the System 7.5.3 that Apple offers.  I had Mac OS 8.6 installed
and that was too slow.  Loading webpages was slower than my Performa 460
with 33Mhz and 36MB RAM.  But I tried the System 7 installer and it
didn't recognize the Mac.  I called Apple support, but obviously, they
couldn't help me.  Anyone know how to put System 7 on this thing?


The Apple Spec Database shows the original OS for the 1400cs/117 as 
7.5.3 with the PowerBook 1400 Enabler.  I don't know for sure about 
using the enabler.  I think that the original installer for this 
model had a specialized version of the OS 7.5.3 installer.  It would 
probably be modified to recognize the 1400 and to install the enabler 
along with OS 7.5.3.  This was commonly done when a machine came out 
after an OS release as opposed to those machines that were released 
concurrent with the OS.

I'm not certain how you would proceed.  My best guess is that you 
need to download the PB1400 enabler from Apple and add it to your 
installer boot system and also install it on your 1400s HD.

Installing OS 7.6.1 would avoid this problem.
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[Joe]

I have a PowerBook 1400cs, 117Mhz, 48MB RAM, 750MB HD, and I tried to
install the System 7.5.3 that Apple offers.  I had Mac OS 8.6 installed
and that was too slow.  Loading webpages was slower than my Performa 460
with 33Mhz and 36MB RAM.  But I tried the System 7 installer and it
didn't recognize the Mac.  I called Apple support, but obviously, they
couldn't help me.  Anyone know how to put System 7 on this thing?



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Re: Why won't my 1400cs/166 come on?

[Nathan]

Reach behind the laptop and hit the little reset button by the modem/printer
port.. My 1400 will hicup like that from time to time and this always
works..

FWIW,

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> Hello
> 
> This is Phil.  I had a strange thing happen to my PB 1400.  I pressed the
> on/off button with the machine plugged in and
> nothing happens.  I haven't used it for a few weeks.  It worked fine then.
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Re: Why won't my 1400cs/166 come on?

[Allan Cranston]

pull the battery out and leave it unplugged for a day.  plug it back in and
boot it up without the battery in.it should fire right up then.  hope
this helps
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> Hello
>
> This is Phil.  I had a strange thing happen to my PB 1400.  I pressed the
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> nothing happens.  I haven't used it for a few weeks.  It worked fine then.
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Why won't my 1400cs/166 come on?

[Phillip Young]

Hello

This is Phil.  I had a strange thing happen to my PB 1400.  I pressed the on/off 
button with the machine plugged in and 
nothing happens.  I haven't used it for a few weeks.  It worked fine then. Could it be 
an expired PRAM battery?

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non-waking 1400cs

[COCCORP]

Howdy from the Winter Wonderland that is...

...Atlanta?!?

Anyway; I am having a problem w/ my 1400cs/183. Upon waking from any extended 
sleep, I get a screen as white as my neighborhood...

...the SNOW! I mean the snowy conditions today!  :-D

And then sometimes, when I wake, it shows the desktop (kinda) and then 
freezes. It sounds like the HD is not spinning back up when I wake the Powerbook; Is 
this a HD or a software problem? I am pushin' OS 8.1 with a 2gb HD.

Thanks,

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Re: USB on a 1400cs

[max miles]

Re: elusive cards...

Thanks Drew, I thought it was a little surprising. Could definitely use 
firewire capability on my 1400, but vapor doesn't cut it.

m

On Feb 22, 2004, at 5:32 PM, Andrew Kershaw wrote:

IBM made a 16-bit FireWire card. No one makes (or made) a 16-bit USB 
card.
Wait a minute... so are you meaning one CAN use firewire cards on a 
1400
Hmm,  these cards (the supposed 16-bit FireWire card from IBM) have 
always been vapor to me.  In fact, I'm pretty sure it's just bunk. The 
only references I've seen to FireWire cards from IBM are refs to 
either PCI or CardBus cards.

So, no, you still can't do FireWire on a 1400.

I'll be the first to admit I'm wrong, however, if someone can come up 
with real evidence of such a card.

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Re: USB on a 1400cs

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IBM made a 16-bit FireWire card. No one makes (or made) a 16-bit USB card.
Wait a minute... so are you meaning one CAN use firewire cards on a 1400
Hmm,  these cards (the supposed 16-bit FireWire card from IBM) have 
always been vapor to me.  In fact, I'm pretty sure it's just bunk. 
The only references I've seen to FireWire cards from IBM are refs to 
either PCI or CardBus cards.

So, no, you still can't do FireWire on a 1400.

I'll be the first to admit I'm wrong, however, if someone can come up 
with real evidence of such a card.

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Re: USB on a 1400cs

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On Feb 22, 2004, at 11:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Is there any way to use USB on a 1400cs laptop. How about Firewire?
IBM made a 16-bit FireWire card. No one makes (or made) a 16-bit USB 
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Re: USB on a 1400cs

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>Is there any way to use USB on a 1400cs laptop. How about Firewire?

IBM made a 16-bit FireWire card. No one makes (or made) a 16-bit USB card.

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Re: USB on a 1400cs

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Is there any way to use USB on a 1400cs laptop. How about Firewire?

Thanks, Ed
Nope and Nope.

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USB on a 1400cs

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Is there any way to use USB on a 1400cs laptop. How about Firewire?

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1400cs Battery Goofiness

[William Damkoehler]

Hi, all.

My ongoing frustration with my 1400's battery takes such interesting turns
that I thought you'd all like to hear the latest!

I've downloaded both "Battery Amnesia" and "My Battery" and have had
"Battery Recondition" aboard for years. Typically I'd get maybe 30 minutes
moderate usage after a monthly recondition but that time would dwindle
quickly down to about, oh, 10 minutes on a lucky day.
 
I've reset the Power Management Unit a few times, zapped the PRAM, and used
Battery Recondition maybe half a dozen times in the last week and have had
wildly varying results; but here's the current pattern:

After a night plugged into the charger I'll pull the plug in the morning and
work off the battery. Maybe 4 or 5 minutes into the session the first
"Reserve Power" warning pops up - "My Battery" would show a good 95% power
left at that point. Then I'll get maybe another 5 minutes until the "No
Reserve Power Left" warning comes up and forced sleep comes upon the 1400 -
"My Battery" showing usually no less than 90% power left. But here's the
really weird thing: if I then plug the 'Book back in for maybe 10 minutes
and then unplug it and go back on battery I can work for another half hour
or more before the Sandman arrives again! Right now I'm 30 minutes into the
"post-replug" phase and still going strong. "My Battery" shows 83% left!

What the heck!?

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Re: 1400cs won't boot after 166 processor upgrade

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on 2/11/04 8:24 PM, Ed Gibson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I removed the battery, pulled all cords going to the 1400cs after
> shutting it off. I got as far as pulling out the keyboard and the power
> light came on very dimly. It would not go out even after pressing the
> power switch in the back. I pulled the memory chip loose, removed it and
> then took out the network expansion card. I removed the four screws
> holding down the 177mHz processor then inserted the 133 mHz processor
> module. After re-installing everything back in, I hit the on/off button
> but nothing happened. I then hit the power button on the back and got
> the power light on the top right corner of the screen to come on bright
> again, but no boot. Is there a pram reset switch on the laptops I havn't
> found yet or something else I'm missing?  Also, I'm looking for an
> operating manual for this, can anyone help?
> 
> Thanks, Ed

The motherboard of the PB 1400/166 is different (slightly) than the 117 MHz
& 133 MHz versions, and you can't swap parts between them.


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Re: 1400cs won't boot after 166 processor upgrade

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Sorry, I meant a 133, not a 166. I only wish it was a 166 but it 
still dosent work. I put the 117 back in and it works fine. I take 
it it still is the ROM chips? where are these located?

Thanks, Ed
133 and 117 MHz should be interchangable in every machine.  Are you 
sure the 133 works ?

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Re: 1400cs won't boot after 166 processor upgrade

[Ed Gibson]

Sorry, I meant a 133, not a 166. I only wish it was a 166 but it still 
dosent work. I put the 117 back in and it works fine. I take it it still 
is the ROM chips? where are these located?

Thanks, Ed

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I removed the battery, pulled all cords going to the 1400cs after 
shutting it off. I got as far as pulling out the keyboard and the 
power light came on very dimly. It would not go out even after 
pressing the power switch in the back. I pulled the memory chip 
loose, removed it and then took out the network expansion card. I 
removed the four screws holding down the 177mHz processor then 
inserted the 133 mHz processor module. After re-installing everything 
back in, I hit the on/off button but nothing happened. I then hit the 
power button on the back and got the power light on the top right 
corner of the screen to come on bright again, but no boot. Is there a 
pram reset switch on the laptops I havn't found yet or something else 
I'm missing?  Also, I'm looking for an operating manual for this, can 
anyone help?

Thanks, Ed


Only a few 117 and 133 MHz models had the new ROMS required to use the 
Apple 166 MHz module.  I dont know why Apple did this, but it is 
defintely the ROMs.  Read off the numbers on the 2 ROM chips.

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Re: 1400cs won't boot after 166 processor upgrade

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I removed the battery, pulled all cords going to the 1400cs after 
shutting it off. I got as far as pulling out the keyboard and the 
power light came on very dimly. It would not go out even after 
pressing the power switch in the back. I pulled the memory chip 
loose, removed it and then took out the network expansion card. I 
removed the four screws holding down the 177mHz processor then 
inserted the 133 mHz processor module. After re-installing 
everything back in, I hit the on/off button but nothing happened. I 
then hit the power button on the back and got the power light on the 
top right corner of the screen to come on bright again, but no boot. 
Is there a pram reset switch on the laptops I havn't found yet or 
something else I'm missing?  Also, I'm looking for an operating 
manual for this, can anyone help?

Thanks, Ed
Only a few 117 and 133 MHz models had the new ROMS required to use 
the Apple 166 MHz module.  I dont know why Apple did this, but it is 
defintely the ROMs.  Read off the numbers on the 2 ROM chips.

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1400cs won't boot after 166 processor upgrade

[Ed Gibson]

I removed the battery, pulled all cords going to the 1400cs after 
shutting it off. I got as far as pulling out the keyboard and the power 
light came on very dimly. It would not go out even after pressing the 
power switch in the back. I pulled the memory chip loose, removed it and 
then took out the network expansion card. I removed the four screws 
holding down the 177mHz processor then inserted the 133 mHz processor 
module. After re-installing everything back in, I hit the on/off button 
but nothing happened. I then hit the power button on the back and got 
the power light on the top right corner of the screen to come on bright 
again, but no boot. Is there a pram reset switch on the laptops I havn't 
found yet or something else I'm missing?  Also, I'm looking for an 
operating manual for this, can anyone help?

Thanks, Ed

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HD removal on 1400cs

[William Damkoehler]

You wrote:

> I need to replace the hard drive on my 1400cs but have no idea how to
> get at it. Can someone tell me how to do this?
> 
> Thanks, Ed

Hi, Ed.


I'm sending you an e-mail with complete instructions off-list.

The one hitch is the holes in the bracket. I replaced a drive and had to
drill 4 new holes in the bracket but it's no big deal.

Good luck!


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Re: Hard drive removal on 1400cs

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on 1/10/04 2:37 AM, Ed Gibson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I need to replace the hard drive on my 1400cs but have no idea how to
> get at it. Can someone tell me how to do this?
> 
> Thanks, Ed
>

Open the lid and look at the speaker screen above the keyboard. Slide it to
the left about half an inch, then lift it straight up. The keyboard can now
be gently pried up to reveal the hard drive cradle.


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Hard drive removal on 1400cs

[Ed Gibson]

I need to replace the hard drive on my 1400cs but have no idea how to 
get at it. Can someone tell me how to do this?

Thanks, Ed

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Re: ethernet or wireless on 1400cs/133 with OS 7.6.1?

[William Wiseman]

on eBay, Proxim Wireless cards, about $16, and the cd has a driver for 
7.5.5. I'm using one withe each of our 1400's w/o any problems uder 8.6 
and 9.1

JeffW.

On Dec 21, 2003, at 1:46 PM, Jack Countryman wrote:

After getting airport working on my original PowerBook G3/233 (Kanga) 
using
a Waveland card, I'm now wondering if I could do either the same 
thing, or
get an ethernet card working to give ethernet network access, on the
1400cs/133 at work to get it to print to the network printers there.  
So
far, the cards for either wireless or ethernet that I seem to find want
newer systems (typically 8.6 or 9).  I'm not clear on what is in those
systems that is critical to getting these cards to work, or why it 
could not
be done with 7.6.1.  (I need to keep that particular machine at 7.6.1 
to
keep an old program running...that program has never been updated and
seemingly will not be updated on the mac, it won't work correctly with 
8 or
newer due to changes in the way those system do interrupt signals.)

Ideas of either ethernet or wireless cards that would work with 7.6.1? 
 Or
how to force an older system to recognize/work with a card intended 
for a
newer system?   Thanks in advance.



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Re: ethernet or wireless on 1400cs/133 with OS 7.6.1?

[Jack Countryman]

After getting airport working on my original PowerBook G3/233 (Kanga) using
a Waveland card, I'm now wondering if I could do either the same thing, or
get an ethernet card working to give ethernet network access, on the
1400cs/133 at work to get it to print to the network printers there.  So
far, the cards for either wireless or ethernet that I seem to find want
newer systems (typically 8.6 or 9).  I'm not clear on what is in those
systems that is critical to getting these cards to work, or why it could not
be done with 7.6.1.  (I need to keep that particular machine at 7.6.1 to
keep an old program running...that program has never been updated and
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newer due to changes in the way those system do interrupt signals.)

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Re: 1400cs...headache

[Bill Judson]

> > Have you tried using Apple Remote Access as a dialer? Works fine on my
> > 6500/250 under 8.1.
> >
> > --
> > Over,
> >
> > Jutso
>
>
> - is there a version of Remote Access on the 8.0 cd? If not do I have to go
> to that god awful older software page of Apples?

I think you have to use version 3 or later, as that had the stuff added
that replaces OT/PPP. On my 8.1 install CD (actually for a beige G3), it
lies in: Full Install Pieces > Software Installers > Apple Remote Access
Client. Don't know about your CD...

Otherwise, if you have to enter the older Mac purgatory, try:



(You think that page is bad, I remember when for some reason a few years
ago I had to access Micro$oft's ftp site (now defunct?), where they had 1
folder there for obsolete software versions, with *thousands* of files in
the same directory, that took 20 minutes to load into the browser
window!...)

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Re: 1400cs...headache

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on 11/16/03 6:53 PM, Bill Judson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Have you tried using Apple Remote Access as a dialer? Works fine on my
> 6500/250 under 8.1.
> 
> --
> Over,
> 
> Jutso


- is there a version of Remote Access on the 8.0 cd? If not do I have to go
to that god awful older software page of Apples?


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Re: 1400cs...headache

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> > on 11/14/03 11:39 PM, Illovox Media at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, that's the perfect solution.  Use FreePPP.
> >
> >
> > -- FreePPP errors out with error 71011 on install.. D/l'ed twice,
> > samething.. guess I need 8.5
> >
>
> When you did the 8.0 install was it a CLEAN install?  I know you had to
> jump thru hoops to get the 8.1 update applied but it might be worth
> trying the 8.0 as "clean" if you didn't already.  Trash all your OT,
> PPP, MAcTCPDNR etc prefs for sure and try dialing out again.
>
> B

Have you tried using Apple Remote Access as a dialer? Works fine on my
6500/250 under 8.1.

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Re: 1400cs...headache

[macnifico]

Illovox Media wrote:

Get 8.6 or at least make sure to download the update.  Also, if you ever get
a G3 upgrade for the machine, be aware that you will have to get 9.1, 8.6
has problems running the upgrades.  Finally, with a g3 upgrade and sys 9.1,
you will need to download from apple a new startup disk control panel called
9.2 start up disk control panel.  It is not extractable from os 9.2 disks,
but confusedly called 9.2 anyhow and is stand alone.
>>>

I've running two accelerated 1400s with 8.6 with no problems, but 
recently (two weeks ago), I upgraded one to 9.1.
I've noticed no change or improvement, only that the Startup Disk 
Control Panel was not working, it exited with an error message.
I copied the Startup Disk CP from 8.6, and it works like a charm.
Of course, YMMV.
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Re: 1400cs...headache

[Brian]

On Friday, November 14, 2003, at 04:55 PM, nathan wrote:

on 11/14/03 11:39 PM, Illovox Media at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yes, that's the perfect solution.  Use FreePPP.


-- FreePPP errors out with error 71011 on install.. D/l'ed twice,
samething.. guess I need 8.5
When you did the 8.0 install was it a CLEAN install?  I know you had to 
jump thru hoops to get the 8.1 update applied but it might be worth 
trying the 8.0 as "clean" if you didn't already.  Trash all your OT, 
PPP, MAcTCPDNR etc prefs for sure and try dialing out again.

B

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Re: 1400cs...headache

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on 11/14/03 11:39 PM, Illovox Media at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Yes, that's the perfect solution.  Use FreePPP.


-- FreePPP errors out with error 71011 on install.. D/l'ed twice,
samething.. guess I need 8.5


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Re: 1400cs...headache

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on 11/14/03 8:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> Thankyou all for you input. I contacted my isp and recieved an ip address
>> and two DNS addresses I plugged them into TCP/IP, and verified it in PPP
>> all that fun crap. Dialed up, logged on... And squat! Nothing... nada!
>> Except that I can still ping out, nothing more...
>> So I guess I need to buy a freakin copy of 8.5... anyone have one for
>> cheap?
> 
> IIRC the Apple PPP from 8.0 and 8.1 was pretty much broken.  There's no way
> that it should have failed to figure out DNS servers etc, the info is in the
> PPP handshake but it never knew.  I seem to recall using FreePPP and MacPPP or
> similar replacements instead of the OT PPP. the ISPs back then could always
> tell who was using Apple computers as they had to always call and get these
> #'s that Windows acquired properly.  Anyone else have a favorite replacement?
> 
> Those should be a quick download, nad if you are clever you can get them via
> ftp to the IP of the shareware ftp site archives (oh wait you have other
> computers nearby... so that's not needed)
> 
> Brian

Yes, that's the perfect solution.  Use FreePPP.  


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Re: 1400cs...headache

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on 11/14/03 7:06 AM, nathan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> 
> Thankyou all for you input. I contacted my isp and recieved an ip address
> and two DNS addresses I plugged them into TCP/IP, and verified it in PPP
> all that fun crap. Dialed up, logged on... And squat! Nothing... nada!
> Except that I can still ping out, nothing more...
> So I guess I need to buy a freakin copy of 8.5... anyone have one for
> cheap?
> 

Get 8.6 or at least make sure to download the update.  Also, if you ever get
a G3 upgrade for the machine, be aware that you will have to get 9.1, 8.6
has problems running the upgrades.  Finally, with a g3 upgrade and sys 9.1,
you will need to download from apple a new startup disk control panel called
9.2 start up disk control panel.  It is not extractable from os 9.2 disks,
but confusedly called 9.2 anyhow and is stand alone.


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Re: 1400cs issues

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> When you boot from the 8.0 CD, are you able to see the HD but there's
> just a little text file readme on it?  That's definitive for the HFS+
> incompatibility with the 8.0 system  CD, read the text file.
>
> No, there's really isn't a way to let 8.0 read it, you are going to
> have to either put your old system back on by getting an 8.1 or 8.6
> install CD to be able to even see your hard drive contents again.
> That's an easy solution.
>
> I don't *think* you can make an 8.1 bootable floppy, IIRC that stopped
> at 7.5.5.
>
> [...]
>
> B

Try:



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Re: 1400cs...headache

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>  Thankyou all for you input. I contacted my isp and recieved an ip address
> and two DNS addresses I plugged them into TCP/IP, and verified it in PPP
> all that fun crap. Dialed up, logged on... And squat! Nothing... nada!
> Except that I can still ping out, nothing more...
> So I guess I need to buy a freakin copy of 8.5... anyone have one for
> cheap?

IIRC the Apple PPP from 8.0 and 8.1 was pretty much broken.  There's no way that it 
should have failed to figure out DNS servers etc, the info is in the PPP handshake but 
it never knew.  I seem to recall using FreePPP and MacPPP or similar replacements 
instead of the OT PPP. the ISPs back then could always tell who was using Apple 
computers as they had to always call and get these #'s that Windows acquired properly. 
 Anyone else have a favorite replacement?

Those should be a quick download, nad if you are clever you can get them via ftp to 
the IP of the shareware ftp site archives (oh wait you have other computers nearby... 
so that's not needed)

Brian


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1400cs...headache

[nathan]

 Thankyou all for you input. I contacted my isp and recieved an ip address
and two DNS addresses I plugged them into TCP/IP, and verified it in PPP
all that fun crap. Dialed up, logged on... And squat! Nothing... nada!
Except that I can still ping out, nothing more...
So I guess I need to buy a freakin copy of 8.5... anyone have one for
cheap?


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Re: 1400cs issues

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> Can I copy my 8.1 system folder from my other pb, through the zip drive
> ext onto  my external zip and boot from that?
> 

You can try that, it shouldn't hurt to try.  You might have to bless the system folder 
on the Zip though which means you could a little trouble getting the cart out of the 
drive but you can always turn power off, it isn't insurmountable by any means.  I 
haven't booted a PPC mac from a Zip disk but I have booted 030 macs that way just fine.

8.1 from which powerbook?  Beware of installations from much different hardware, G3 
systems won't start up oldermacs etc.

Luck,

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Re: 1400cs issues

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on 11/13/03 3:36 AM, nathan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> on 11/13/03 12:49 PM, Illovox Media at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> cratch.  It will result in a cleaner, more fun upgrade experience.  Load
>> yor saved date.  Carry on.
> 
> 
> problem is I just bought a copy of 8.0, I don't want to have to turn around
> and buy another copy at a greater price... You know of anyway I can make
> this work with 8?
> 

 I don't think so.  You may have to knuckle up and spring for the cd via
ebay.  is cheap there


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Re: 1400cs issues

[nathan]

on 11/13/03 3:05 PM, Brian at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I think just buying or borrowing an 8.1 or 8.6 install CD as suggested
> is your best solution.


--thanks very much for the info... I would love to hook across and do the
update...I have 6 macs in the house and another pb(520c/ppc167) But believe
it or not I don't have a single SCSI cable anywhere... And being stationed
in Trukey, it's not like I can just run down and buy one..
I figured out the otp-apple-shft-delt combination to get the system to
boot from the cd, but I get all the way to the desktop with the cd
background and then nothing... no icons, nothing.. I can hear the cd
spining, but nothing else...
Can I copy my 8.1 system folder from my other pb, through the zip drive
ext onto  my external zip and boot from that?


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Re: 1400cs issues

[Brian]

On Thursday, November 13, 2003, at 06:36 AM, nathan wrote:

on 11/13/03 12:49 PM, Illovox Media at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

cratch.  It will result in a cleaner, more fun upgrade experience.  
Load
yor saved date.  Carry on.


problem is I just bought a copy of 8.0, I don't want to have to turn 
around
and buy another copy at a greater price... You know of anyway I can 
make
this work with 8?
When you boot from the 8.0 CD, are you able to see the HD but there's 
just a little text file readme on it?  That's definitive for the HFS+ 
incompatibility with the 8.0 system  CD, read the text file.

No, there's really isn't a way to let 8.0 read it, you are going to 
have to either put your old system back on by getting an 8.1 or 8.6 
install CD to be able to even see your hard drive contents again.   
That's an easy solution.

I don't *think* you can make an 8.1 bootable floppy, IIRC that stopped 
at 7.5.5.

There are a couple more complicated solutions though.
IF you have another Mac (powerbook required to make it easy I guess), 
and a CF flash adapter, you could build a 8.1 system onto the CF as has 
been mentioned here recently, use that to boot from, then copy the 
minimal 8.1 system to the 1400CS and bless it.  That would be at least 
a start.

Or you could mount the 1400 onto a 8.1 or higher Mac in SCSI disk mode, 
and put 8.1 on it that way.
Is  the 8.1 a free downloadable update (I think so, but it's been 
years...) ? then you'd just have to apply that update to the system on 
the HD.

You could also buy another Mac (goodwill 7200 or something, $20), put 
your 8.0 plus the 8.1 update on it, hook to the 1400 in SCSI disk mode 
, mount the 1400cs hard drive, put 8.1 update on it.  And after all 
this you still wouldn't have an easy 8.1 reinstall for later.

I think just buying or borrowing an 8.1 or 8.6 install CD as suggested 
is your best solution.

HTH.

B

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Re: 1400cs issues

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on 11/13/03 12:49 PM, Illovox Media at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> cratch.  It will result in a cleaner, more fun upgrade experience.  Load
> yor saved date.  Carry on.


problem is I just bought a copy of 8.0, I don't want to have to turn around
and buy another copy at a greater price... You know of anyway I can make
this work with 8?


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Re: 1400cs issues

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on 11/13/03 2:38 AM, nathan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> Was having problems making PPP work under 8.1. So I reinstalled 8.0
> thinking that would fix the problem.. Only to restart my laptop to see:
> 
> " This startup disk will not work on this Macintosh model. Use the latest
> installer tp update the disk for this model."
> 
> Restart
> 
> 
> 
> Downloaded the HD updater, well hell every updater I could find on Apple's
> website. Still no dice.. Any ideas?
> 


PS, internet access was greatly improved in 8.6


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Re: 1400cs issues

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on 11/13/03 2:38 AM, nathan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> Was having problems making PPP work under 8.1. So I reinstalled 8.0
> thinking that would fix the problem.. Only to restart my laptop to see:
> 
> " This startup disk will not work on this Macintosh model. Use the latest
> installer tp update the disk for this model."
> 
> Restart
> 
> 
> 
> Downloaded the HD updater, well hell every updater I could find on Apple's
> website. Still no dice.. Any ideas?
> 

Yeah, a couple.  1.  You may have converted to HFS+.  2.  You can't down
grade a system without a complete wipe.

Bite the bullet, buy 8.6.  Save your date.  Wipe and install 8.6 from
scratch.  It will result in a cleaner, more fun upgrade experience.  Load
yor saved date.  Carry on.


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1400cs issues

[nathan]

 Was having problems making PPP work under 8.1. So I reinstalled 8.0
thinking that would fix the problem.. Only to restart my laptop to see:

" This startup disk will not work on this Macintosh model. Use the latest
installer tp update the disk for this model."

 Restart



Downloaded the HD updater, well hell every updater I could find on Apple's
website. Still no dice.. Any ideas?
 


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Re: 1400cs/8.1

[nathan]

on 11/8/03 5:47 PM, Bruce Johnson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Re-install OT from the 8.1 OS CD. (It's a custom install, but you can
> re-install just that.)


 The only problem is that OS 8 came on the laptop. Dl'ed the 8.1 update from
Apple's legacy software site. And since only dailup is offered here in
Turkey, it took forever... Tried dl'ing OpenTransport Suite 1.0.1, no dice..
1.0.8 didn't do any good either... Think I'll just get a Compact Flash card,
turn the VM on and install 9.0


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Re: 1400cs/8.1

[Bruce Johnson]

On Friday, November 7, 2003, at 02:28  PM, nathan wrote:



 Trying to run PPP for my dial up account and I get a message telling 
me
that the Opentransport/Remote Access extension was not active or in the
folder.
Okay, no big deal right? Wrong. Went into the Ext Manager and 
clicked it
on, and restarted.. When I restart I get an ext error message and have 
to
reboot and hold shift.. Boots up with no problem.  So I deleted it, and
grabbed it off of my 540c PPC upgraded laptop also running 8.1, no 
dice..
Any ideas?
Re-install OT from the 8.1 OS CD. (It's a custom install, but you can 
re-install just that.)

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1400cs/8.1

[nathan]

 Trying to run PPP for my dial up account and I get a message telling me
that the Opentransport/Remote Access extension was not active or in the
folder.
Okay, no big deal right? Wrong. Went into the Ext Manager and clicked it
on, and restarted.. When I restart I get an ext error message and have to
reboot and hold shift.. Boots up with no problem.  So I deleted it, and
grabbed it off of my 540c PPC upgraded laptop also running 8.1, no dice..
Any ideas?

--nathan


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Re: 1400cs

[nathan]

on 10/27/03 7:05 AM, John McGibney at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> should restart automatically.


-- did the trick, thanks much.


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Re: 1400cs

[John McGibney]

In the back between the printer and keyboard ports is a small rectangle.
This is the reset button. Push in and hold for 5-10 seconds and the machine
should restart automatically.

hth
John

on 10/26/03 7:12 PM, PowerBooks at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:19:36 +0200
> Subject: 1400cs
> From: nathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
> 
> Is there anyway to hardrest a 1400cs? I tried to install 8.6, before I
> knew I needed a copy of "Wish I was" which I can't find.. But I shut this
> system down and now the power light on the upper right side of the screen is
> solid green instead of blinking and the system won't turn on...
> 


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