[proletar] Re: Java Jazz ( ayo yang mau nonton Carlos Santana )
saya dah beli, nonton santana hari jumat tgl 4 maret. saya dah kasih kabar ke kang sur, bukan?! btw, langsung ajah ke website javajazzfestival.com beli tiket online, mumpung masih murah kalo beli sekarang. tiket santana hari sabtu kayaknya udah abis tuh. duke katanya beli terusan. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, suryana gsuryana@... wrote: Ayooo kita setting yang mau nonton Santana nya ajah Black Magic Woman dada dadaaadadadadad Apa ticket nya beli sekarang mumpung masih murah, siapa yang bisa beli, dan uang di transfer ke siapa ? Kang Reza bisa jadi Koordinator nih. sur. - Original Message - From: simaeru simaeru@... Dear Best Friends, We're getting closer to Jakarta International JAVA JAZZ Festival 4-6 March 2011, the largest jazz festival event in the world. Get your tickets now at TicketBox ESTUBIZI 021-52 900 828. TicketBox ESTUBIZI is the only official ticket box Jakarta International JAVA JAZZ Festival 2011 that could deliver your ticket orders to all parts of Jakarta. You do not need to leave your place because we will deliver your ticket order to a place that has been agreed. TICKET STATUS: Available EVENT ~ Jakarta International JAVA JAZZ Festival 2011 DATE ~ 4,5,6 March 2011 VENUE ~ JIExpo (Jakarta International Expo) Kemayoran, Jakarta Carlos Santana, George Benson, Kenny Loggins and more than 200 jazz musicians will perform in Jakarta International JAVA JAZZ Festival 4-6 March 2011 in Jakarta Indonesia. Please check out this link: http://ticketboxestubizi.blogspot.com/ Please kindly contact our TicketBox ESTUBIZI: Phone: +6221-52900828, Fax: +6221-52971875 Mobile: 0 7404 62 (24 hours/7 days a week) SMS: 0882 1010 5812 (Smart), 0821 2400 6088 (Telkomsel), 0 7404 62 (Fren) Email: ticketbox@... or ticketbox.estubizi@... Website: http://www.estubizi.com Blogspot: http://ticketboxestubizi.blogspot.com or http://estubizi.blogspot.com Follow us on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/tickboxestubizi Find us on Facebook: Send message to Estubizi Jakarta or see event: TicketBox ESTUBIZI: JAVA JAZZ Festival 4, 5, 6 Maret 2011 ~ click: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=139088376145953 For ticket price: The sooner the better for you who want to get the best price. See below for today price (as off 18 March 2011) ~ http://ticketboxestubizi.blogspot.com/2011/02/jakarta-international-java-jazz.html Information on how to get your tickets: http://ticketboxestubizi.blogspot.com/2011/02/java-jazz-festival-4-6-march-2011-cara.html You can have tickets for GROUP ORDER and get 1 FREE Daily Pass: http://ticketboxestubizi.blogspot.com/2011/02/java-jazz-festival-4-6-march-2011-group.html List of Confirmed Artist: http://ticketboxestubizi.blogspot.com/2011/02/contact-now-ticketbox-estubizi-phone.html Detail Schedule of All Artist: http://ticketboxestubizi.blogspot.com/2011/02/java-jazz-festival-4-6-march-2011.html PLEASE BE INFORMED: . THE NUMBER OF TICKETS AVAILABLE UNDER THIS PRICE CATEGORY IS LIMITED. The sooner the better for you who want to get the best price. . SALE IS MADE ON A FIRST COME FIRST SERVE BASIS TICKET PRICE (including tax): * ADMISSION TICKET: NOT including Special Show ticket Daily Pass - Friday 4 March 2011 Normal Price: Rp 529,000 Today Price: Rp 345,000 Daily Pass - Saturday 5 March 2011 Normal Price: Rp 529,000 Today Price: Rp 345,000 Daily Pass - Sunday 6 March 2011 Normal Price: Rp 529,000 Today Price: Rp 345,000 3-Day Pass: 4,5,6 March 2011 Normal Price: Rp 1,449,000 Today Price: Rp 632,500 * SPECIAL SHOW TICKET: Special Show ticket REQUIRES either a same day Daily Pass OR a 3-Day Pass SANTANA - Friday: 4 March 2011 Normal Price: Rp 862,500 Today Price: Rp 402,500 SANTANA - Saturday: 5 March 2011 Normal Price: Rp 1.150,000 Today Price: Rp 460.000 GEORGE BENSON - Tribute to Nat King Cole - Sat: 5 March 2011 Normal Price: Rp 517.500 Today Price: Rp 402.500 GEORGE BENSON - Greatest Hits Show - Sun: 6 March 2011 Normal Price: Rp 402.500 Today Price: Rp 299.000 KENNY LOGGINS - Sunday: 6 March 2011 Normal Price: Rp 575.000 Today Price: Rp 345.000 Thank you and best regards, Benyamin Ruslan Naba M: 0 7404 62 E: ticketbox@... Blogspot: http://ticketboxestubizi.blogspot.com Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To
[proletar] Re: Jufiq onaninya susah selesai? (Hasan Basri juga sudah jadi gila..)
Pergilah berobat ke psikiater Hasan Basri. Anda jelas sudah gila. Anda bukan manusia normal lagi. Keadaana anda sudah sama parahnya dengan ayaub yahya dan orang Islam seperti Dipo, johny-indon, ndeboost, PAREWA PAREWA, rezameutia, Roman Proteus, Tawang dll. Terus unjuk isi otak anda yang sudah busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan di mailing list ini tidak akan menolong anda. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Habe proletar4@... wrote: fik, bloon lu! --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Pergilah berobat ke psikiater hasanBasri. Anda jelas sudah gila. Anda bukan manusia normal lagi. Keadaana nda sudah sama parahnya dengan ayaub yahya dan orang Islam seperti Dipo, johny-indon, ndeboost, PAREWA PAREWA, rezameutia, Roman Proteus, Tawang dll. Terus unjuk isi otak anda yang sudah busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan di mailing list ini tidak akan menolong anda. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Habe proletar4@ wrote: fik, elo kok marah marah mulu sih? ditanya soal onani bukanya jawab malah marah diundang kondangan, marah juga apa sih yang kakanda inginkan sebenarnya? huk! pantekla gadang! --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Hasan Basri bangsat tukang tipu dan bajingan tukang kibul yagn busuk, nista lagi menjijikka sekarang juga sudah jadi gila seperti juga ayub yahya dan orang Islam seperti Dipo, johny-indon, ndeboost, PAREWA PAREWA, rezameutia, Roman Proteus, Tawang dll. Kasihan.. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Habe proletar4@ wrote: fik jangan nyap nyap melulu, baru ditanya gitu aja langsung semaput eh elo mau dateng kondangan di perkawinan gue ngga fik? di Bandung? masih ada sisa uang pensiun ngga untuk jalan jalan ke indo? kalau ngga ada, gue mau deh kasih zakat infak supaya jusfiq bisa beli tiket pesawat dateng ya fik? tahun depan gue kayaknya gue bakalan punya anak nih --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Hasan Basri bangsat tukang tipu dan bajingan tukang kibul yagn busuk, nista lagi menjijikka sekarang juga sudah jadi gila seperti juga ayub yahya dan orang Islam seperti Dipo, johny-indon, ndeboost, PAREWA PAREWA, rezameutia, Roman Proteus, Tawang dll. Kasihan.. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Habe proletar4@ wrote: Belum ya? Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Hari ini gw puas banget [proletar] Re: milis ini paling lucuuu.....
dan ayub yahya yang sedeng dan berotak anjing ikut geromblon orang Islam buat menyebar dusta dan fintah... Bagusnya orang Islam udah pada ngaku bahwa mereka ngerja'in atau berolok-olok yang adalah pengakuan bahwa mereka itu bangsat yang sudah kehabisan argumen daan atidak bisa membantah apa yagn saya katakan.. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya ayubyahya@... wrote: emang gw napa nih ??!! perasan gw kagak nyebut nama orang dweh !!... hahahaha hari ini gw puas banget !!! --- On Fri, 2/18/11, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@... wrote: dan ayub yahya yang sedeng dan berotak anjing ikut geromblon orang Islam buat menyebar dusta dan fintah... Bagusnya orang Islam udah pada ngaku bahwa mereka ngerja'in atau berolok-olok yang adalah pengakuan bahwa mereka itu bangsat yang sudah kehabisan argumen daan atidak bisa membantah apa yagn saya katakan.. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya ayubyahya@ wrote: lucu dan menyedihkan.. ada aki-aki yg mustinya di denger pengalaman hidupnya, saat dia ngadepin pimpinan otoriter.. yg nyaksiin sendiri pembantaian PKI... boro boro di dengerin.. malah di pakai jithak2-an menyedihkan tenan... celakanya !!.. dia menikmati palanya buat jithak2-an --- On Fri, 2/18/11, wawan selarasmilis@ wrote: Ã saya tertawa terpingkal-pingkal baca posting2 di milis ini... lucu tenan... benernya disini banyak yg kreatip... banyak orang aneh bakalan dilahirkan dari milis ini :)) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: Ikutan wawan.. [proletar] Jufiq onaninya susah selesai?
dan ayub yahya yang sedeng dan berotak anjing ikut geromblon orang Islam dan Hasan Basri buat menyebar dusta dan fintah... Bagusnya orang Islam udah pada ngaku bahwa mereka ngerja'in atau berolok-olok yang adalah pengakuan bahwa mereka itu bangsat yang sudah kehabisan argumen daan atidak bisa membantah apa yagn saya katakan.. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya ayubyahya@... wrote: Â numpang ktawa doang hahahaha pantekla gadang!! --On Fri, 2/18/11, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@... wrote: From: Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@... Â Â Â Pergilah berobat ke psikiater hasanBasri. Anda jelas sudah gila. Anda bukan manusia normal lagi. Keadaana nda sudah sama parahnya dengan ayaub yahya dan orang Islam seperti Dipo, johny-indon, ndeboost, PAREWA PAREWA, rezameutia, Roman Proteus, Tawang dll. Terus unjuk isi otak anda yang sudah busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan di mailing list ini tidak akan menolong anda. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Habe proletar4@ wrote: fik, elo kok marah marah mulu sih? ditanya soal onani bukanya jawab malah marah diundang kondangan, marah juga apa sih yang kakanda inginkan sebenarnya? huk! pantekla gadang! --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Hasan Basri bangsat tukang tipu dan bajingan tukang kibul yagn busuk, nista lagi menjijikka sekarang juga sudah jadi gila seperti juga ayub yahya dan orang Islam seperti Dipo, johny-indon, ndeboost, PAREWA PAREWA, rezameutia, Roman Proteus, Tawang dll. Kasihan.. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Habe proletar4@ wrote: fik jangan nyap nyap melulu, baru ditanya gitu aja langsung semaput eh elo mau dateng kondangan di perkawinan gue ngga fik? di Bandung? masih ada sisa uang pensiun ngga untuk jalan jalan ke indo? kalau ngga ada, gue mau deh kasih zakat infak supaya jusfiq bisa beli tiket pesawat dateng ya fik? tahun depan gue kayaknya gue bakalan punya anak nih --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Hasan Basri bangsat tukang tipu dan bajingan tukang kibul yagn busuk, nista lagi menjijikka sekarang juga sudah jadi gila seperti juga ayub yahya dan orang Islam seperti Dipo, johny-indon, ndeboost, PAREWA PAREWA, rezameutia, Roman Proteus, Tawang dll. Kasihan.. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Habe proletar4@ wrote: Belum ya? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Cuaca tetap nyaman buat jogging..
Nggak hujan, nggak ada salju, angin juga nggak bertiup kencang. Temperatur di koridor bawah dirumah kami menunjukkan angka 7 celcius. Sekitar jam 9 Leiden masih sepi. Jogger juga nggk banyak hari ini, saya cuma berpapasan seorang laki-laki muda jangkung yang langkahnya panjang-panjang.. Ketika saya hampir sampai kembali di rumah, seorang tetangga perempuan yang tiap pagi membawa anjingnya jalan-jalan memberi salam sambil bilang Udah hampir sampe.(Je bent er bijna).. Hari ini saya jogging 95 menit 34 detik dan trayek memang saya perpanjang satu blok rumah. Asyik... Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Aljazeera: Scores killed in Libya protests
Scores killed in Libya protests Human Rights Watch says 84 people killed in past three days during rallies calling for ousting of Muammar Gaddafi. Last Modified: 19 Feb 2011 08:23 GMT Crowds have taken to the streets in Libya demanding more representation and the overthrow of Gaddafi Security forces in Libya have killed scores of pro-democracy protesters in demonstrations demanding the ousting of Muammar Gaddafi, the country's long time ruler. Human Rights Watch said on Saturday that 84 people had died over the past three days. A doctor in Benghazi told Al Jazeera that he had seen 70 bodies at the city's hospital on Friday in one of the harshest crackdowns against peaceful protesters thus far. I have seen it on my own eyes: At least 70 bodies at the hospital, said Wuwufaq al-Zuwail, a physician. Al-Zuwail said that security forces had also prevented ambulances reaching the site of the protests. The Libyan government has also blocked Al Jazeera TV signal in the country and people have also reported that the network's website is inaccessible from there. Protesters shot Marchers mourning dead protesters in Benghazi, Libya's second-largest city, reportedly come under fire from security forces, as protests in the oil-exporting North African nation entered their fifth day on Friday. Live Blog Mohamed el-Berqawy, an engineer in Benghazi, told Al Jazeera that the city was the scene of a massacre, and that four demonstrators had been killed. Where is the United Nations ... where is (US president Barack) Obama, where is the rest of the world, people are dying on the streets, he said. We are ready to die for our country. Verifying news from Libya has been difficult since protests began, thanks to restrictions on journalists entering the country, as well as internet and mobile phone black outs imposed by the government. Tens of thousands of anti-government protesters seeking to oust Gaddafi took to the streets across Libya on Thursday in what organisers called a day of rage modelled after similar protests in Tunisia and Egypt that ousted longtime leaders there. Gaddafi has ruled Libya since 1969. Pro-government supporters also were out on the streets on Friday, according to the Libyan state television, which broadcasted images labelled live that showed men chanting slogans in support of Gaddafi. The pro-Gaddafi crowd was seen singing as it surrounded his limousine as it crept along a road in the capital, Tripoli, packed with people carrying his portrait. Deadly clashes Deadly clashes broke out in several towns on Thursday after the opposition called for protests in a rare show of defiance inspired by uprisings in other Arab states and the toppling of Egypt's Hosni Mubarak and Tunisia's Zine El Abidine Ben Ali. Twitter Reaction Libya Protests Solilibya profile Solilibya RT @AliLePointe: TEMPLATE TO EMAIL #OBAMA! JUST ADD YOUR NAME!!! http://tiny.cc/9qiqz #libya #feb17 #gaddafi #gaddaficrime #benghazi #tripoli #egypt #tunisia about 1 minute ago · reply Solilibya profile Solilibya RT @Tripolitanian: #Gaddafi knows Libyans won't fight Libyans - he is shipping in hundreds of African mercenaries to kill protesters #Libya #Feb17 about 1 minute ago · reply marwame profile marwame GO #Libya! RT @libyan4life: #Gaddafi made a massive error in calculating how to break up protests, he didn't factor in our will! #Feb17 55 minutes ago · reply HanenB profile HanenB #1575;#1604;#1602;#1584;#1575;#1601;#1610;: #1575;#1608;#1576;#1575;#1605;#1575; #1571;#1589;#1604;#1607; #1576;#1608; #1593;#1605;#1575;#1605;#1577;!! #1575;#1604;#1604;#1607; #1610;#1603;#1608;#1606; #1601;#1610; #1593;#1608;#1606; #1575;#1604;#1588;#1593;#1576; #1575;#1604;#1604;#1610;#1576;#1610; #libya #feb17 #gaddafi http://t.co/BMKhTz1 about 1 minute ago · reply FreeLibyanman profile FreeLibyanman RT @AliLePointe: #NPR interview with a nurse from a #benghazi #Libya hospital nurse! Reality on the ground #gaddafi brutality #feb17 http://tiny.cc/8rpcw 57 minutes ago · reply Join the conversation The worst clashes appeared to have taken place in the eastern Cyrenaica region, centred on Benghazi, where support for Gaddafi has historically been weaker than in other parts of the country. Libya's Quryna newspaper reported on Thursday that the regional security chief had been removed from his post over the deaths of protesters in Bayda. Libyan opposition groups in exile claimed that Bayda citizens had joined with local police forces to take over Bayda and fight against government-backed militias, whose ranks are allegedly filled by recruits from other African nations. Political analysts say Libyan oil wealth may give the government the capacity to smooth over social problems and reduce the risk of an Egypt-style revolt. Gaddafi's opponents say they want political freedoms, respect for human rights and an end to corruption. The government has proposed the doubling of government employees'
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[proletar] Aljazeera: Fresh clashes in Bahrain protests
Fresh clashes in Bahrain protests Tear gas fired on protesters attempting to retake Pearl roundabout, as military are ordered to pull out by crown prince. Last Modified: 19 Feb 2011 11:39 GMT [WARNING: This video contains images that some viewers may find disturbing] Police have fired tear gas on protesters attempting to occupy the Pearl roundabout in Manama, the Bahraini capital, after the military was ordered to withdraw by the country's crown prince. While military vehicles have now moved away from the roundabout, they have repositioned themselves around the same area, Al Jazeera's online producer in Manama reported on Saturday. Al Jazeera's web producer reports that doctors are preparing to receive casualities at the city's main hospital As soon as the military had pulled out, more than 60 protesters attempted to occupy the square, but they were tear-gassed by police forces. About 60 police jeeps are currently parked in and around the square, and they have blocked access to protesters. Helicopters were also seen flying overhead. Our producer said that so far there were no confirmed casualties at the Salmaniya hospital, but that the facility had deployed ambulances to the square. Sheikh Salman bin Hamad al-Khalifa, the crown prince, ordered the military to withdraw on Saturday afternoon, saying that the police would now be responsible for enforcing order, the Bahrain News Agency reported. The General Union of Bahraini Workers has called a strike for Sunday, according to a member of the workers union at national flag carrier Gulf Air. Dialogue rejected Earlier in the day, opposition leaders rejected calls from the government for a national dialogue. Abdul Jalil Khalil Ibrahim, the head of the main opposition Wefaq bloc, said on Saturday that the government must resign and the army must withdraw in order for any talks with the ruling family to take place. Ibrahim Mattar, a member of the group, which quit parliament on Thursday, said his party did not believe there was a serious will for dialogue because the military is in the streets. Sheikh Hamad ibn Isa Al Khalifa, the King of Bahrain, had earlier asked the crown prince, to start a national dialogue with all parties. Also on Saturday, Catherine Ashton, the European Union's foreign policy chief, called for the dialogue process to begin without delay. She also said that she was deeply concerned by reports of the use of violence by security forces, and called on all sides to show restraint. While the military has now begun withdrawing from the streets, a precondition that the opposition had set for talks to take place, it is unclear if and when the dialogue will take place. The Pearl roundabout was the scene of shootings after nightfall on Friday, when security forces appear to have opened fire with live rounds on protesters. The circumstances around the shooting are not clear, but officials at the Salmaniya Hospital say that at least 66 people were injured, several with gunshot wounds to the head and chest. LIVE BLOG Some doctors and medics on emergency medical teams were in tears as they tended to the wounded. X-rays showed bullets still lodged inside victims. This is a war, said Dr Bassem Deif, an orthopaedic surgeon examining people with bullet-shattered bones. Protesters described a chaotic scene of tear gas clouds, bullets coming from many directions and people slipping in pools of blood as they sought cover. 'Time for dialogue' Speaking on state television on Friday evening, the crown prince called for calm, saying it was time for dialogue, not fighting. The dialogue is always open and the reforms continue, Sheikh Hamad al-Khalifa said on Bahrain TV. We need to call for self-restraint from all sides, the armed forces, security men and citizens, he said. I urge you, there should be calm. Now is time for calm. Country profile: Bahrain Jalal Firooz, of the Wefaq bloc, said demonstrators had been marking the death of a protester killed earlier this week before marching on the roundabout, where troops were deployed. A doctor at Salmaniya hospital told Al Jazeera that the hospital is full of severely injured people after the latest shootings. We need help! Our staff is entirely overwhelmed. They are shooting at people's heads. Not at the legs. People are having their brains blown out, a distraught Dr Ghassan said, describing the chaos at the hospital as something close to a war zone. He said the hospital was running short of blood and appealed for help to get more supplies. Police had no immediate comment. An Associated Press cameraman saw army units shooting anti-aircraft weapons, fitted on top of armoured personnel carriers, above the protesters in apparent warning shots and attempts to drive them back from security cordons about 200 meters from the roundabout. Protesters claimed live ammunition was used against the demonstrators. People started running in all directions and
[proletar] Aljazeera: US wavers on Middle East crisis
Lihat videonya.. As protests and uprisings rock the Middle East, many affecting vital US allies, the White House fails to calibrate a uniform response to the crisis. Barack Obama, the US president, wavered between strong support for protesters in Iran as the government there heavily cracked down on them, to ambiguous statement on Bahrain, where a major US military is based. The US says it will not dictate events in the region. Many find the US response disappointing, and some feel the White House will only react strongly to those governments it does not have a stake in. Al Jazeera's Patty Culhane reports. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Yang ngomong BABI tua tulen Re: [proletar] Kayak babi, orang Islam pada melongo..
-Original Message- From: Jusfiq kesayangan.al...@gmail.com Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 13:11:32 To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [proletar] Kayak babi, orang Islam pada melongo.. Angin perubahan melanda Timur Tengah Tapi hingga siang ini masih nggak banyak tuh orang Islam yang pada dungu-dungu kayak anjing seperti Dipo, johny-indon, ndeboost, PAREWA PAREWA, rezameutia, Roman Proteus, Tawang dll. yang buka bacot tentang kejadian di Timur Tengah itu. Nggak heran... Pertama, karena dengan otak mereka yang sudah pada rusak berat, jelas mereka tidak tahu betapa pentingnya apa yang terjadi di Timur Tengah untuk dunia, artinya juga untuk Indonesia. Kedua, dengan otak mereka yang sudah pada rusak berat pengetahuan dasar tentang Timur Tengah juga nyaris nihil. Jadi ya pada melongo kayak babi. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] CNN: (Robyn Curnow) Will winds of change blow across Africa?
Will winds of change blow across Africa? 30x30.curnow.robyn Posted by: CNN Correspondent, Robyn Curnow (CNN) - How infectious is this wind of change sweeping through North Africa? Will it blow south? Or continue to move east across the Middle East? These are questions that are being debated in Africa. The East African, a Kenyan-based newspaper, recently had an article entitled, The Revolution in Black Africa won't be played out in the streets. The Mail and Guardian's Zimbabwean proprietor Trevor Ncube just published a hard-hitting analysis entitled, We are our own liberators. In it he urges the Zimbabwean masses to do what they have got to do; the cost of doing nothing is too high. Both articles, and countless others written in the past month, reflect a deep sense of soul-searching by Africans. Hard questions are being asked if Africans can emulate what has been achieved on the northern edges of the continent. On face value, conditions are ripe for some Africans to do what they have got to do. Sub-Saharan Africa, like the Middle East, has its fair share of autocrats and repressive governments. Also, in varying degrees, there is the same heady concoction of youth unemployment, corruption and heavy-handed government suppression. Crucially, even the poorest Africans are networked into the global dialogue. Mobile phone growth is staggering. More people are connected than ever before. Text messages are a particularly powerful form of communication here. But will this heady mixture be enough to stoke revolution in Zimbabwe or Nigeria or Uganda? The general consensus is no. Africans themselves say many communities are too divided to coalesce around one issue. Cultural, tribal and ethnic differences limit the possiblities for a sustained, organized protest with a unified goal, say many here. More importantly, the security apparatus in places like Zimbabwe are ruthless and totally dedicated to preserving the status quo. The army, for example, acts as a wing of Robert Mugabe's Zanu PF party rather than a non-biased state actor. There are many other suggestions as to why protests won't rock Sub-Saharan Africa in the way they have rolled across North Africa. What do you think they are? Or do you think the conditions are right in some countries? However, we all know it's difficult to predict revolution and what the `tipping point' might be for a population. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] CNN: Protesters call for reform in Kuwait
CNN.com Protesters call for reform in Kuwait (CNN) -- Over 1,000 protesters clashed with security forces in Kuwait on Friday, demanding greater rights for longtime residents who are not citizens of the country. The crowd -- initially 300 people before quickly growing -- was attacked with water cannons. A Kuwaiti government spokesman later claimed that the security forces were trying to protect themselves after the protesters started hurling rocks. The security forces on the ground talked to the protestors in a nice and civilized way, said Col. Adil Al-Hashash, a spokesman for the Interior Ministry. Members of the crowd were told that they should go to the legal channels for their demands rather than protesting. Al-Hashash said the demonstration was eventually dispersed and that several protesters were arrested and questioned by the security forces. The protest took place in Al Jahra province north of Kuwait City, Al-Hashash noted. Kuwait has been wrestling with the question of rights for non-citizen residents for decades. The country is believed to have roughly 100,000 residents who are not citizens. Journalist Saad Al-Enzi contributed to this report Links referenced within this article Find this article at: http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/02/18/kuwait.protests/index.html?hpt=T2 Click Here to Print SAVE THIS | EMAIL THIS | Close Uncheck the box to remove the list of links referenced in the article. © 2008 Cable News Network. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: tentang ras...
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[proletar] BBC: Bahrain unrest: Protesters enter symbolic Pearl Square
BBC News Middle East 19 February 2011 Last updated at 14:25 GMT Bahrain unrest: Protesters enter symbolic Pearl Square Protesters in Manama, 19 Feb 2011 Protesters brought banners and flags as they returned to Pearl Square once the army and police left Thousands of anti-government protesters in Bahrain have entered Pearl Square, the focal point of protests in the capital Manama. Jubilant protesters returned after riot police fired tear gas and shotgun rounds before leaving. Reports say some 60 people may have been injured. The army, which guarded the square after using deadly force to clear it on Thursday, was earlier ordered out. The crown prince has been meeting political parties, the BBC understands. They include the main Shia opposition parties in the Sunni-ruled Gulf state, our correspondent Caroline Hawley reports from Manama. Earlier, reports said that the main Shia opposition bloc, Wefaq, had rejected an offer from the king to hold talks aimed at ending days of unrest. Day of mourning As demonstrations grew on Saturday, heavily armed riot police fired volleys of tear gas and shotgun rounds as anti-government protesters arrived at the square from all directions, the BBC's Kevin Connolly reported from the city. The police then pulled out, leaving the square to the jubilant crowd. They waved flags and carried banners into the square in a show of defiance to the authorities. We don't fear death any more, let the army come and kill us to show the world what kind of savages they are, one woman, teacher Umm Mohammed, told the Reuters news agency. The protesters have made the square, a large traffic roundabout, a focal point of demonstrations in recent days. They have been increasingly angry at the violent suppression of their protests by the security forces. At least 50 people were wounded on Friday as the army fired on protesters following the funerals for four killed when troops cleared Pearl Square early on Thursday. Two people were also killed earlier in the week. Bahrain's Crown Prince, Salman bin Hamad al-Khalifa, has called for calm in an effort to hold a national day of mourning for those who have died. Bahrain is one of several Arab countries to have experienced pro-democracy demonstrations since the fall of long-time Tunisian President Zine El Abidine Ben Ali in January. Egypt's Hosni Mubarak was forced from power on 11 February. The majority Shia population in Bahrain have long said they are discriminated against when it comes to housing and government jobs. They have also been calling for greater political rights from the Sunni royal family. Earlier, the main Shia opposition bloc, Wefaq, rejected an offer from the king to hold talks aimed at ending the unrest. Correspondents say leaving the square to the protesters may be a response to US President Barack Obama's call for restraint. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] CNN: Witness: Helicopters fire on Libyan protesters
CNN.com Witness: Helicopters fire on Libyan protesters (CNN) -- Helicopters fired at demonstrators and sounds of gunfire rang out Saturday in the eastern Libyan city of Benghazi, a doctor who witnessed the incident told CNN. The doctor said dozens of injured people were hospitalized, most suffering from gunshot wounds. The situation is critical right now, said the doctor who CNN is not identifying for security reasons. The city is effectively under siege. At least 84 people have been killed by government security forces in three days of protests across Libya, said Human Rights Watch, based on telephone interviews with local hospital staff and witnesses. CNN could not independently confirm information on the escalating unrest in Libya, the most isolated nation in the region. The network has not been permitted to report from Libya and cannot confirm information about the demonstrations. Despite fears of a brutal crackdown, defiant crowds massed in front of Benghazi's main courthouse Friday night to voice discontent over Col. Moammar Gadhafi's 41 years of iron-fisted rule, witnesses told CNN in a phone interview. This man always makes you afraid of your family, of your friends, said Mofta, who was among the protesters Friday. He will tell you that his secret police are everywhere, Moftah said. It's time to break this fear barrier. We reach a point that we dont' care anymore. We want this regime to go away. The pro-Gadhafi online newspaper Quryna reported that 24 people were killed during the Benghazi protests Friday when they tried to attack a military battalion and a security directorate. The newspaper said protesters set afire all the police stations inside the city. Libya is one of several countries in the Middle East and North Africa to face a surge of dissent following the revolts that toppled longtime autocrats in Tunisia and Egypt. Farther east, in al-Baida, thousands of people showed up Friday to bury 13 protesters killed in clashes in recent days, said Mohamed Abdallah of the opposition National Front for the Salvation of Libya, who has been receiving information about Libya from sources there. Plainclothes members of the Revolutionary Committee had reportedly fired at the protesters, Abdallah said. Demonstrations unfolded Friday in other cities as well, he said. The government maintains tight control of the news media and telephone services, and many people expressed fear of talking openly amid what they described as a climate of fear. CNN has been relying on information from protesters, human rights groups and foreign-based Libyan organizations assessing the situation through their sources on the ground. Gadhafi's regime, however, has sought to portray a different picture of events and sent out tacit warnings via mobile phone texts to Libyans planning to make their voices known. The inappropriate use of telecommunications services contradicts our religion ... our customs ... and our traditions, said a text from the General Communications Body. And Libyan state-run television aired taped images of Gadhafi surrounded by adoring crowds. U.S. President Barack Obama condemned the government crackdowns in Libya, Bahrain and Yemen, which are all embroiled in unrest. Wherever they are, people have certain universal rights, including the right to peaceful assembly, Obama said. The United States urges the governments of Bahrain, Libya and Yemen to show restraint in responding to peaceful protests, and to respect the rights of their people. Navi Pillay, the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights, also condemned the crackdown in Libya and other countries as illegal and excessively heavy-handed. Libya, like many of its Arab neighbors, is suffering from economic hardship and a lack of political reform. Youth unemployment is high. Gadhafi is acutely aware of popular grievances and has spoken with groups of students, lawyers and journalists in the past few weeks, a source told CNN this week. CNN's Yousuf Basil and Salma Abdelaziz contributed to this report. Links referenced within this article Find this article at: http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/02/19/libya.protests/index.html?hpt=T2 Click Here to Print SAVE THIS | EMAIL THIS | Close Uncheck the box to remove the list of links referenced in the article. © 2008 Cable News Network. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email:
[proletar] Aljazeera: Algerian police break up protest
Algerian police break up protest Several people are injured and others are arrested as police thwart pro-democracy rally in capital Algiers, reports say. Last Modified: 19 Feb 2011 13:25 GMT Large numbers of police were mobilised to try to prevent Saturday's protest from going ahead Algerian police in riot gear have used batons to break up a crowd of about 50 opposition supporters trying to take part in a protest march inspired by uprisings elsewhere in the Arab world. Police brandishing clubs, but no firearms, weaved their way through the crowd in central Algiers on Saturday, banging their shields, tackling some protesters and keeping traffic flowing through the planned march route. Live Blog The gathering, organised by the Co-ordination for Democratic Change in Algeria (CNCD), comes a week after a similar protest, which organisers said brought an estimated 10,000 people and up to 26,000 riot police onto the streets of the capital. Officials, however, put turnout at the previous rally at 1,500. The fresh protest comes on the heels of uprisings in neighbouring Tunisia and Egypt that toppled those countries' leaders. Police presence at Saturday's march was more discreet than the week before, when huge contingents of riot police were deployed throughout the capital the night before the march. On Friday night, by contrast, the capital was calm, with police taking up their positions only on Saturday morning. Still, by breaking up the crowd, the police managed to turn the planned march into a chaotic rally of small groups. Arrests Three people have so far been arrested at May 1 Square, the focal point of protests, according to Elias Filali, a blogger who spoke to Al Jazeera. Crowds were dispersed by police about two blocks from May 1 Square, where the anti-government protest was scheduled to start at 11:00 am, local time. Police managed to turn the planned march into a chaotic rally of small groups [Reuters] Large numbers of police were mobilised to try to prevent Saturday's protest from going ahead. Dozens of police vans and military-style police armoured vehicles were dotted around the capital hours before the demonstration was supposed to begin. The protesters split into two groups in a courtyard of a residential block, where they were surrounded by about 400 police in helmets and body protection. A coalition of human rights groups, some trade unionists and a small opposition party are calling for weekly protest marches through the capital. The authorities have refused permission for the marches, citing public order concerns. Unrest in Algeria could have implications for the world economy since it is a major oil and gas exporter, but analysts say an Egypt-style revolt is unlikely because the government can use its energy wealth to placate most grievances. About 150 protesters held a protest last Saturday in May 1 Square, but others trying to join them were blocked by a large police presence. Algeria's biggest opposition forces are not taking part in the protest movement. The CNCD wants the immediate end of the government of Abdelaziz Bouteflika, Algeria's president, citing the same problems of high unemployment, housing and soaring costs that inspired uprisings in Tunisia and Egypt. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Reuters: Obama speaks to Bahrain's king, urges restraint
Obama speaks to Bahrain's king, urges restraint By Ross ColvinPosted 2011/02/18 at 9:45 pm EST WASHINGTON, Feb. 18, 2011 (Reuters) President Barack Obama spoke with Bahrain's king on Friday night, urging restraint after the kingdom's security forces ignored Washington's earlier call for calm and opened fire on protesters demanding reforms. President Barack Obama is pictured during a news conference in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building in Washington in this February 4, 2011 file photo. REUTERS/Jim Young Ads by Google Advertise here Anglo-Spanish Law Firm English Speaking Solicitors All kind of legal services in Spain www.ricorabogados.com InterGest Worldwide Gründung und komplette Verwaltung Ihrer ausländischen Niederlassung www.intergest.com Large Gibson solicitors A personal and professional service All solicitors 15+ years experience www.largeandgibson.co.uk Legal Service Thailand We assist Foreigners living,working and investing in Thailand www.abclegalservice.biz/ Amid unrest across much of the Middle East, U.S. officials have voiced concern about violence in the island nation in talks with the government of Bahrain, which hosts a big U.S. military base and borders Saudi Arabia, the world's largest oil exporter. The White House said in a statement that Obama, in speaking with King Hamad bin Isa Al-Khalifa, condemned violence and said Bahrain's stability depended on respect for the rights of its people. Earlier on Friday, Obama said he was deeply concerned by reports of violence in Bahrain, Libya and Yemen. The United States condemns the use of violence by governments against peaceful protesters in those countries, and wherever else it may occur, Obama said in a statement. Democratic Senator Patrick Leahy said he had asked the State Department to probe whether Bahrain had broken a U.S. law he wrote that prohibits aid to foreign security forces that violate human rights. The United States provided around $20 million in military aid to Bahrain in 2010. Bahraini security forces shot at protesters in the capital, Manama, on Friday, wounding at least 60 people, a day after police swept away a protest camp in the city, killing four people and wounding more than 230. In Libya, soldiers sought to crush unrest. In Yemen, at least four protesters were killed in clashes between security forces and government loyalists and crowds demanding an end to President Ali Abdullah Saleh's 32-year rule. Bahrain's crackdown on protesters posed a new dilemma for the Obama administration after a popular uprising in Egypt ousted U.S. ally President Hosni Mubarak a week ago. A U.S. national security official said Bahrain security forces appeared to be using rubber bullets and live ammunition fired from, but not limited to, shotguns. 'WANT TO AVOID' This (violence) is exactly what the administration and the U.S. want to avoid, said Robert Danin, a Middle East expert at the Council on Foreign Relations think tank. In the case of Egypt, the goal was to see managed change, (an) orderly transition. But the number-one thing was to ensure that this be done without violence. The minute that there's violence it is very hard to reconcile support for your ally and the aspirations of the demonstrators. U.S. national security and intelligence agencies expect Bahrain's government to ride out the unrest and that security forces will eventually succeed in containing the protests, a senior U.S. official familiar with government reporting and analysis on Bahrain told Reuters. The United States views Bahrain, home to the U.S. Navy's Fifth Fleet, as a strategic ally that straddles oil supply lines in the Gulf. As in the case of Egypt and elsewhere in the region, it must balance strategic interests with its support for protesters' demands for economic and political reforms. Obama's response may be colored by the U.S. view of Bahrain as one of the more progressive Arab states. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told Bahrain civil society activists during a visit in December their government was moving more quickly than many others in the region to implement democratic change. Several 2009 cables from the U.S. Embassy in Manama, made available to Reuters, characterized King Hamad as an enlightened and deeply pro-American ruler who, since assuming the throne in 1999, had fostered reconciliation with the Shi'ite Muslim majority and had undertaken serious political and economic reforms. The U.S. is in a rather embarrassing position, because officials have tended to give King Hamad far more credit than they should have for political reforms, said Michele Dunne, a Middle East expert at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. The State Department issued a travel warning on Friday for Bahrain, noting clashes between protesters and demonstrators. Spontaneous demonstrations and violence are expected throughout the next several days, the department said, urging U.S. citizens to
[proletar] SOROS: George Soros says the Iranian regime won't last past a year.
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[proletar] The end of Arab exceptionalism
http://www.todayszaman.com/columnistDetail_getNewsById.action?newsId=235530 Columnists 14 February 2011, Monday2 1 0 0 ÖMER TASPINAR o.taspi...@todayszaman.com The end of Arab exceptionalism Since the end of the Cold War, political scientists who focus on democratization spoke of the Arab exception when they referred to global dynamics ending authoritarian regimes. After all, of all the 22 members of the Arab League, only Lebanon qualified as a democracy, according to the standard definition of the term -- based on multiple alterations of political power through free and fair elections. But Lebanon was always too fragile and chronically prone to chaos to challenge the gloomy state of affairs dominating the Arab world. It was hardly a success story that could lead the way for the rest of the 300 million Arabs. Experts knew that there was only one country that had the strategic resonance to become a regional pace setter for Arabs. If Egypt went democratic, everything could change rapidly in the region. It may still be too early to call Egypt a democracy. The military is now in charge. But such sobriety should not diminish the historical importance of what the world has just witnessed in the Middle East. The Egyptian autocracy came to an end, not thanks to a military intervention. It was nothing less than a genuine peoples' revolution that achieved this monumental outcome. I'm tempted to call this grass roots people's revolution a first in the Arab world, but a few weeks before Egypt, everything started in tiny Tunisia. Tunisians should be proud for giving 80 million Egyptians the hope that they could do the same. Today, the Arab world is finally converging with the democratic dynamics that swept the world since the collapse of the Berlin Wall almost 20 years ago. What we are witnessing in Cairo is not just history in its most exciting form. What happened last Friday also put an end to a century of Arab exceptionalism. We should cherish this moment and appreciate its historical significance before asking the unavoidable question that now permeates in the West: What's next? Not surprisingly, the global punditry is sharply divided between those who believe that there is a high risk of Islamization and those who see the birth pangs of genuine democracy. Whatever happens next in Egypt, the West should start by learning from its own mistakes. For too long Europe and the United States naively believed that the only alternative to Mubarak was the Muslim Brotherhood. They blindly supported the devil they knew because of their fear of the alternative. To those Westerners who complained about human rights abuses in Egypt, Mubarak could always say, If you don't like me, just look around Cairo and tell me if you are ready for the Islamists to take over. This, of course, was exactly what Mubarak wanted them to believe. In reality, there was always a democratic, liberal, relatively secular and pro-Western alternative to radical Islam in Egypt, but Mubarak did his best to crush this third alternative with his repressive regime and police state. The autocratic leader of Egypt always complained about American or European human rights groups trying to promote basic freedoms in his country, mainly on the grounds that democracy cannot be exported from the outside. In the meantime, he excelled in undermining democracy from the inside. Now that the old regime is gone, it is time for a third alternative to emerge. Those who still fear political Islam's ascendance should put their concern in perspective. What gave the Muslim Brotherhood its broad appeal was the authoritarian nature of the political regime in Egypt. From now on life will be much more difficult for Islamists in Egypt. They will no longer be able to rely on their narrative of victimhood and their facile slogan Islam is the solution. Now, they will have to compete with other political parties in a democratic environment. The mosque will no longer be the only place in the country where people are able to come together to discuss alternatives to the repressive regime. Political Islam will be only one movement among many contending to rule Egypt. With the end of Arab exceptionalism and the winds of democratization blowing in the Arab world, we may very well be witnessing the weakening of political Islam in the Middle East. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your
[proletar] BBC: Record-breaking' chilli is hot news
BBC News UK 19 February 2011 Last updated at 00:28 GMT 'Record-breaking' chilli is hot news By Neil Henderson BBC News Chilli The Infinity Chilli, now a record breaker. Experts have pronounced a chilli grown in the market town of Grantham, Lincs, as the hottest in the world. Tests have revealed the Infinity Chilli to have a Scoville Scale Rating of 1,176,182 - hotter than chilli reportedly used in hand grenades by the Indian military. But what is the attraction of this insanely hot ingredient? The story of the world's hottest chilli begins not in Mexico or Bangladesh, but next to the barbed wire at RAF Cottesmore in Leicestershire. Nick Woods, working shifts as an RAF security guard and considering his growing family, decided he had to do something more entrepreneurial with his life. That was five years ago. What was Nick's hobby - cooking up hot sauces in his kitchen - developed into his Fire Foods sauce business, and now the 38-year-old Grantham man finds himself literally in possession of hot property. Like many great discoveries Nick says he developed the Infinity Chilli accidentally. There are 4,000 different varieties of chilli, he explains, and they're really easy to cross. I knew as soon as I saw it in the polytunnel. It stood out, and when I dissected it I could tell by the skin tissue and the seeds that it was a hot one. Technically the chilli is not a vegetable but a fruit, from the plant genus Capsicum. The heat comes from the substance capsaicin which is found in all chillies. The attraction of it lies in the way it livens up our foods and makes the body produce pleasurable endorphins afterwards. Graphic of scale of various chilli in order of spiciness The chilli fire is measured by the Scoville Heat Unit (SHU) designed by American chemist Wilbur Scoville in 1912. To put the Grantham chilli in context, a Jalapeno can score anything between 2,500 to 8,000 SHU on this scale. The Bhut Jolokia chilli weighs in at just over 800,000 SHU. The Indian military are reported to have developed a counter-terrorism hand grenade which uses it as an ingredient to immobilise their adversaries. But Grantham's Infinity Chilli has scored 1,176,182 SHU in a test done last year by Andrew Jukes, a scientist at the University of Warwick's Crop Centre. Bigger and better It's boom time for the chilli, because Britain's taste buds are thoroughly globalised. Many of us get used to curries and other hot snacks at college. Now the experts say we're looking for bigger and better chilli-based thrills in the kitchen. Cookery writer Michael Michaud runs an online chilli supply firm and was responsible for the development of the Dorset Naga, until recently one of the hottest known chillies in existence. Chillies Chillies appeal to our globalised tastes It's a versatile spice, he says. And the vast majority of British people have been eating chillies, and have been for years, because almost every high street has an Indian restaurant. But I think people are growing and cooking with them more. And now it's a bit like an arms race, with a macho culture going on, you know, I can eat one that's hotter, and so on. And trying to grow the hottest one can also get obsessive. But the British attraction to the chilli is more than simply a yearning for the burn. There's evidence our palates are becoming more sophisticated as our exposure to it lengthens. When Indian restaurants first arrived in the UK... they'd just use the one kind of chilli powder, remembers Manoj Vasaikar, head chef at the well-regarded West London chain of Indian Zing restaurants. Now it's much more subtle and we're using chillies with lots of different tastes and textures. We don't try to overpower the food. 'Worrying' Despite the obvious immediate discomfort - not to say total agony - that comes from eating the hottest of peppers, doctors are yet to notice any lasting ill effects from them. In fact it's thought they could play a valuable part in pain relief and there are reports of them being used to help people undergoing chemotherapy. Earlier this week Nick Martin decided to try one of his Infinity Chillies. I actually ate one yesterday. It was one I'd had frozen from last year - so I thought it wouldn't be as hot as if it was fresh - and I thought I'd try it. It was all a bit worrying. The burn on my tongue lasted half an hour and the effects went on and on. At one point I was doubled over in pain and thinking about ringing the hospital. The worst was over by 11 o'clock, but it wasn't funny. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email |
Re: [proletar] Re: Java Jazz ( ayo yang mau nonton Carlos Santana )
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[proletar] Reutrs: U.S. entering direct talks with Taliban: report
Makain cepat Amerika angkat kaki makin baik.. --- U.S. entering direct talks with Taliban: report Posted 2011/02/19 at 11:09 am EST WASHINGTON, Feb. 19, 2011 (Reuters) The United States has entered into direct talks with leaders of the Taliban in Afghanistan, but contacts are exploratory and not yet a peace negotiation, according to an article on Saturday in The New Yorker magazine. The article, citing people briefed on the talks, said the talks are to assess who in the Taliban leadership, if anyone, might engage in formal peace negotiations and under what conditions. They're exploratory, at least as I understand them, Steve Coll, the article's author, said in an interview on National Public Radio. Afghan President Hamid Karzai has held sporadic talks with current and former Taliban members, but with little apparent result. There was a flurry of unsourced or guardedly sourced newspaper reports last year of secret talks, sponsored by NATO, between Afghan officials and Taliban leaders. In one case a so-called Taliban leader turned out to be an imposter. The United States rejected direct talks with the Taliban after September 11, 2001, saying it was partly to blame for the attacks in New York and Washington, along with al Qaeda. But Richard Holbrooke, the U.S. special envoy for Afghanistan and Pakistan who died in December, pushed last year for a renewed effort to talk to the Taliban. The New Yorker piece said the recent U.S.-led talks were meant to lead to more successful and durable negotiations led by Karzai, in which the United States would take a supporting role. The goal would be to persuade at least some Taliban leaders to break with al Qaeda and participate in Afghan electoral politics, the article said. But it said the risk would be sparking an ethnic civil war between Pashtuns, from whom the Taliban draw support, and non-Pashtuns. Talks also likely would be slow and complicated, atomized and menaced by interference from neighboring governments -- not just Pakistan's but those of Iran, India, Russia Uzbekistan and China, the article said. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said in a speech on Friday the United States was mounting a diplomatic surge to end the war in Afghanistan. She said Washington still intends to begin withdrawing some of the nearly 100,000 U.S. soldiers in the war zone in July with the aim of completing the transition to Afghan responsibility by the end of 2014. We are launching a diplomatic surge to move this conflict toward a political outcome that shatters the alliance between the Taliban and al Qaeda, ends the insurgency and helps produce a stable Afghanistan and a peaceful region, Clinton said. (Writing by Vicki Allen; editing by Chris Wilson) Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] juspik sadomachosist tukang fitnah
juspik dengan malu2 mulai mengakui bahwa dia suka memfitnah. karena dia cuman sanggup beli kaos murahan buatan cina yg harganya ngga lebih mahal dari semangkok bakmi di indonesia (saking melaratnya dia hidup di negri orang), dia memfitnah gua ngibul. tapi setelah terpojok akhirnya diem2 dia mengakui fitnahannya. dasar tua bangke ngga tau diri. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@... wrote: Ya goblok. Beli kaos di Schiphol. Kemungkinan kaos untuk turis congekan yang pake teks I love Amsterdam atau teks sebangsanya untuk dibangga-banggain sebagai bukti pernah ke Amsterdam... Tapi di Supermarket Digros, Aldi atau Lidle atau Hoogvliet harga kaso cuman 2 perak atau tiga tiga perak yang pake benang elastan. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, johny_indon johny_indon@ wrote: elu yg jelas2 ngibul. gua beli kaos non branded di duty free schiphol aja udah diatas 10 euro. kalo yg branded kayak kaos hard rock cafe itu bisa 30an euro. 2 euro itu cuman 24 rebu perak. elu punya duit segitu di indonesia cuman dapet kaos kaki. kayaknya elu sering beli kaos di toko loak di leiden sono ya. makanya kalo hidup melarat jangan sok makmur. kalo coklat 5 euro sekotak emang bener, tapi kotak korek api. dasar pembohong kelas ketombe lu. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Ngibul.. Kaos di negeri Belanda cuma sekitar 2 atau 3 euro, gantungan konci paling-paling satu setengah euro dan coklat juga paling-paling lima euro sekotak.. Dan tiap orang Belanda disamping gaji atau pensiun atau tunjangan, termasuk gelandangan, juga dapat uang untuk pergi pakansi tiap tahun. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: juspik sadomachosist tukang fitnah
johny_indon yang otaknya sudah rusak danjadi busuk, nisgt alagimenjijikkan memfitnah saya memfitnah.. Dia yang ngibul bilang harga kaos di negeri Belanda 10 euro, pada hal harga kaos di super market Aldi, Digros, Lidle Hoogvliet itu antara 2 atau 3 euro... Dia beli kaos di Schphol yang jelas untuk turis conge'an dan bukan untuk penduduk Belanda.. Saya yakin tu kaos bertulisan kalimat semacam I love Amsterdam atau sebangsanya. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, johny_indon johny_indon@... wrote: juspik dengan malu2 mulai mengakui bahwa dia suka memfitnah. karena dia cuman sanggup beli kaos murahan buatan cina yg harganya ngga lebih mahal dari semangkok bakmi di indonesia (saking melaratnya dia hidup di negri orang), dia memfitnah gua ngibul. tapi setelah terpojok akhirnya diem2 dia mengakui fitnahannya. dasar tua bangke ngga tau diri. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Ya goblok. Beli kaos di Schiphol. Kemungkinan kaos untuk turis congekan yang pake teks I love Amsterdam atau teks sebangsanya untuk dibangga-banggain sebagai bukti pernah ke Amsterdam... Tapi di Supermarket Digros, Aldi atau Lidle atau Hoogvliet harga kaso cuman 2 perak atau tiga tiga perak yang pake benang elastan. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, johny_indon johny_indon@ wrote: elu yg jelas2 ngibul. gua beli kaos non branded di duty free schiphol aja udah diatas 10 euro. kalo yg branded kayak kaos hard rock cafe itu bisa 30an euro. 2 euro itu cuman 24 rebu perak. elu punya duit segitu di indonesia cuman dapet kaos kaki. kayaknya elu sering beli kaos di toko loak di leiden sono ya. makanya kalo hidup melarat jangan sok makmur. kalo coklat 5 euro sekotak emang bener, tapi kotak korek api. dasar pembohong kelas ketombe lu. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Ngibul.. Kaos di negeri Belanda cuma sekitar 2 atau 3 euro, gantungan konci paling-paling satu setengah euro dan coklat juga paling-paling lima euro sekotak.. Dan tiap orang Belanda disamping gaji atau pensiun atau tunjangan, termasuk gelandangan, juga dapat uang untuk pergi pakansi tiap tahun. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Puncak kebusukan otak itu bila sudah kena penyakit fobi fikiran seperti yang
Puncak kebusukan otak itu bila sudah kena penyakit fobi fikiran seperti yang diderita johny-indon.. Saya bercerita bahwa saya memikirkan cerita Wawan di mailing list ini ketika saya jogging bikin dia senewenan.. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Begitu rusak otak johny-indon itu hingga baca cerita orang mikir di
Begitu rusak otak johny-indon itu hingga baca cerita orang mikir dia senewenan dan kaing-kaing kayak anjing budug lapar kena pentung . Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: Sembari jogging tadi (otak johny-indon itu bukan saja sudah rusak..
Wah betul-betul gawat. Orang mikir diributin. Jadi otak johny-indon itu bukan saja sudah rusak dan nggak bisa lagi dipakainya buat mikir, tapi dia juga suka senewenan kayak anjing gila melihat orang mikir. Gawat. Betul-betul gawat. Nggak mengherankan.. Otak johny-indon ini sudah rusak ancur-ancuran hasil didikan bapaknya yang adalah serdadu bajingan yang diajar membunuh manusia dan jadi bangsat yang buas, kejam, keji, zalim, ganas lagi biadab hingga tega-teganya memperlakukan anaknya kayak anjing budug dengan menendangnya hingga terkencing-kencing... --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@... wrote: Wah betul-betul gawat. Orang mikir diributin. Jadi otak johny-indon itu bukan saja sudah rusak dan nggak bisa lagi dipakainya buat mikir, tapi dia juga suka senewenan kayak anjing gila melihat orang mikir. Gawat. Betul-betul gawat. Nggak mengherankan.. Otak johny-indon ini sudah rusak ancur-ancuran hasil didikan bapaknya yang adalah serdadu bajingan yang diajar membunuh manusia dan jadi bangsat yang buas, kejam, keji, zalim, ganas lagi biadab hingga tega-teganya memperlakukan anaknya kayak anjing budug dengan menendangnya hingga terkencing-kencing... --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, johny_indon johny_indon@ wrote: kebanyakan orang waras tuh jogging sambil dengerin lagu dari mp3 player. lah ini si kakek jogging sambil mikirin milis proletar. sinting emang. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Sembari jogging tadi pagi, dan sembari melihat keindahan gedung tua di Rapenburg diliputi kabut pagi, saya sempat mikir ke beberapa posting Wawan... Salah satunya adalah ceritanya dia nginjak al-Mushaf didepan orang tuanya. Ini tindakan jujur dan berani yang adalah sekali gus tindakan pembebasan diri Wawan dari pasung yang diletakkan orang sekelilingnya, termasuk oleh keluarganya, dibenaknya, yaitu pasung kibulan orang Arab primitif yang membikin kebanyakan orang itu tidak bisa berfikir rasional: al-Mushaf itu berisi wahyu Allah - yang nota bene tidak berbukti ada. Jarang ada orang Indonesia yang kejujuran terhadap dirinya punya keberanian dan yang punya keberanian untuk mencampakkan omong kosong orang sekelilingnya yang memasung otaknya itu. Sejak itu Wawan telah jadi orang bebas. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Otak johny-indon ini sudah rusak ancur-ancuran hasil didikan bapaknya yang
Otak johny-indon ini sudah rusak ancur-ancuran hasil didikan bapaknya yang adalah serdadu bajingan yang diajar membunuh manusia dan jadi bangsat yang buas, kejam, keji, zalim, ganas lagi biadab hingga tega-teganya memperlakukan anaknya kayak anjing budug dengan menendangnya hingga terkencing-kencing... Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Kakek taik kotok nanggepin ledekan Re: [proletar] Puncak kebusukan otak itu bila sudah kena penyakit fobi fikiran seperti yang
-Original Message- From: Jusfiq kesayangan.al...@gmail.com Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:51:52 To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [proletar] Puncak kebusukan otak itu bila sudah kena penyakit fobi fikiran seperti yang Puncak kebusukan otak itu bila sudah kena penyakit fobi fikiran seperti yang diderita johny-indon.. Saya bercerita bahwa saya memikirkan cerita Wawan di mailing list ini ketika saya jogging bikin dia senewenan.. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Selain Hasan Basri dan ayub yahya, bangsat tukang fitnah dan pendusta disni
Selain Hasan Basri dan ayub yahya, bangsat tukang fitnah dan pendusta disni semua orang Islam seperti Dipo, johny-indon, ndeboost, PAREWA PAREWA, rezameutia, Roman Proteus, Tawang.. Dan duh dungu dan dangkalnya pengetahuan mereka... Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] ayub yahya yang katanya abangan ikut gerombolan orang Islam penyebar dusta dan
ayub yahya yang katanya abangan ikut gerombolan orang Islam penyebar dusta dan fitnah.. Dan beda kapasitas otak ayub yahya itu memang nggak banyak beda kok dengan kapasita otak Tawang atau ndeboost.. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] ayub yahya yang katanya abangan ikut gerombolan orang Islam penyebar dusta dan
ayub yahya yang katanya abangan ikut gerombolan orang Islam penyebar dusta dan fitnah.. Dan beda kapasitas otak ayub yahya itu memang nggak banyak beda kok dengan kapasita otak Tawang atau ndeboost.. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Jadi orang Islam udah pada ngaku bahwa mereka sudah keteteran dan cuma bisa
Jadi orang Islam udah pada ngaku bahwa mereka sudah keteteran dan cuma bisa ngerja'in orang, mengolok-olok orang dengan dusta, fitnah dan pameran kebusukan fikiran mereka. Artinya bahwa mereka tidak punya argumen untuk membantah apa yang saya katakan yaitu bahwa agama biadab Islam yang mereka anut itu hanya berdasarkan omong kosong dan kibulan orang Arab primitif doang. Artinya pula bahwa mereka itu telah kena tipu oleh orang Arab primitif. Dan bahwa mereka itu tidak punya harga diri, karena walaupun mereka tahu bahwa mereka itu kena tipu tapi mereka tetap saja menjadikan buku taik anjing al-Mushaf sebagai kitab suci dan tetap saja sembah Allah yang tidak berbukti ada itu. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Argumen sama anjing tua gak ada guna karena dia gila Re: [proletar] Jadi orang Islam udah pada ngaku bahwa mereka sudah keteteran dan cuma bisa
-Original Message- From: Jusfiq kesayangan.al...@gmail.com Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:03:00 To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [proletar] Jadi orang Islam udah pada ngaku bahwa mereka sudah keteteran dan cuma bisa Jadi orang Islam udah pada ngaku bahwa mereka sudah keteteran dan cuma bisa ngerja'in orang, mengolok-olok orang dengan dusta, fitnah dan pameran kebusukan fikiran mereka. Artinya bahwa mereka tidak punya argumen untuk membantah apa yang saya katakan yaitu bahwa agama biadab Islam yang mereka anut itu hanya berdasarkan omong kosong dan kibulan orang Arab primitif doang. Artinya pula bahwa mereka itu telah kena tipu oleh orang Arab primitif. Dan bahwa mereka itu tidak punya harga diri, karena walaupun mereka tahu bahwa mereka itu kena tipu tapi mereka tetap saja menjadikan buku taik anjing al-Mushaf sebagai kitab suci dan tetap saja sembah Allah yang tidak berbukti ada itu. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Kapasitas otak just pig ya segede biji peler doang Re: [proletar] ayub yahya yang katanya abangan ikut gerombolan orang Islam penyebar dusta dan
-Original Message- From: Jusfiq kesayangan.al...@gmail.com Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:01:39 To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [proletar] ayub yahya yang katanya abangan ikut gerombolan orang Islam penyebar dusta dan ayub yahya yang katanya abangan ikut gerombolan orang Islam penyebar dusta dan fitnah.. Dan beda kapasitas otak ayub yahya itu memang nggak banyak beda kok dengan kapasita otak Tawang atau ndeboost.. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Just PIG kakek anjing adalah rajanya tukang fitnah Re: [proletar] Selain Hasan Basri dan ayub yahya, bangsat tukang fitnah dan pendusta disni
-Original Message- From: Jusfiq kesayangan.al...@gmail.com Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:01:12 To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [proletar] Selain Hasan Basri dan ayub yahya, bangsat tukang fitnah dan pendusta disni Selain Hasan Basri dan ayub yahya, bangsat tukang fitnah dan pendusta disni semua orang Islam seperti Dipo, johny-indon, ndeboost, PAREWA PAREWA, rezameutia, Roman Proteus, Tawang.. Dan duh dungu dan dangkalnya pengetahuan mereka... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: juspik sadomachosist tukang fitnah
Ya goblok. Beli kaos di Schiphol. Kemungkinan kaos untuk turis congekan yang pake teks I love Amsterdam atau teks sebangsanya untuk dibangga-banggain sebagai bukti pernah ke Amsterdam... Tapi di Supermarket Digros, Aldi atau Lidle atau Hoogvliet harga kaso cuman 2 perak atau tiga tiga perak yang pake benang elastan. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, johny_indon johny_indon@... wrote: juspik dengan malu2 mulai mengakui bahwa dia suka memfitnah. karena dia cuman sanggup beli kaos murahan buatan cina yg harganya ngga lebih mahal dari semangkok bakmi di indonesia (saking melaratnya dia hidup di negri orang), dia memfitnah gua ngibul. tapi setelah terpojok akhirnya diem2 dia mengakui fitnahannya. dasar tua bangke ngga tau diri. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Ya goblok. Beli kaos di Schiphol. Kemungkinan kaos untuk turis congekan yang pake teks I love Amsterdam atau teks sebangsanya untuk dibangga-banggain sebagai bukti pernah ke Amsterdam... Tapi di Supermarket Digros, Aldi atau Lidle atau Hoogvliet harga kaso cuman 2 perak atau tiga tiga perak yang pake benang elastan. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, johny_indon johny_indon@ wrote: elu yg jelas2 ngibul. gua beli kaos non branded di duty free schiphol aja udah diatas 10 euro. kalo yg branded kayak kaos hard rock cafe itu bisa 30an euro. 2 euro itu cuman 24 rebu perak. elu punya duit segitu di indonesia cuman dapet kaos kaki. kayaknya elu sering beli kaos di toko loak di leiden sono ya. makanya kalo hidup melarat jangan sok makmur. kalo coklat 5 euro sekotak emang bener, tapi kotak korek api. dasar pembohong kelas ketombe lu. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Ngibul.. Kaos di negeri Belanda cuma sekitar 2 atau 3 euro, gantungan konci paling-paling satu setengah euro dan coklat juga paling-paling lima euro sekotak.. Dan tiap orang Belanda disamping gaji atau pensiun atau tunjangan, termasuk gelandangan, juga dapat uang untuk pergi pakansi tiap tahun. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Jadi orang Islam udah pada ngaku bahwa mereka sudah keteteran dan cuma bisa
Jadi orang Islam udah pada ngaku bahwa mereka sudah keteteran dan cuma bisa ngerja'in orang, mengolok-olok orang dengan dusta, fitnah dan pameran kebusukan fikiran mereka. Artinya bahwa mereka tidak punya argumen untuk membantah apa yang saya katakan yaitu bahwa agama biadab Islam yang mereka anut itu hanya berdasarkan omong kosong dan kibulan orang Arab primitif doang. Artinya pula bahwa mereka itu telah kena tipu oleh orang Arab primitif. Dan bahwa mereka itu tidak punya harga diri, karena walaupun mereka tahu bahwa mereka itu kena tipu tapi mereka tetap saja menjadikan buku taik anjing al-Mushaf sebagai kitab suci dan tetap saja sembah Allah yang tidak berbukti ada itu. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Beginilah NKRI
Beginilah NKRI, siapa akan menyusul untuk dimusnahkan setelah Ahmadiyah? Apakah tidak lebih baik sedia payung sebelum hujan, NKRI dihancurkan sebelum manusianya dihahabiskan oleh rezim neo-Mojopahit berbendera gurun pasir? Silahkan lihat videonya ; http://www.engagemedia.org/Members/cikeusik/news/ahmadiyah-bloodied-video-leads-to-calls-for-revoke-of-decree-against-religious-minority [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: cangkok pete fiq, bangun! (Dipo yang gila tidak bisa membedakan antara
kimhook, coba sekali2 ngaca deh, yg di sini suka petantang petenteng sok kaya tapi kenyataannya sebaliknya itu siapa? elu yg kalo wara wiri di indonesia cuman sanggup bayar tiket bus antar kota non ac doang, dan hidup di negri orang cuman bisa beli sepedah kayak si juspik, eh masih berani nyombong pernah ke eropa tapi nginep di tenda sampe bela2in makan daging mentah buat ngirit ongkos hidup karena ngga sanggup buat beli sekedar burger di mc d. elu ngga malu hook, memamerkan kepada semua member milis betapa menderitanya hidup elu? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, kim kimhook@... wrote: --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Ya goblok. Beli kaos di Schiphol. Kemungkinan kaos untuk turis congekan yang pake teks I love Amsterdam atau teks sebangsanya untuk dibangga- banggain sebagai bukti pernah ke Amsterdam... ... ya gak heran kalo johny o'on itu tukang ptantang-ptenteng; dia mo be'kicau diantara kolega, udah pernah ke Eropa. Tapi yang jelas mah bukan plancong klas-klas kitaan dah. Masak sih mo bikin cerita sama kolega udah jlajah Eropa, padahal dia khan cuman turun naek kereta dan bis doang he he he Dia lihat pemandangan dari jendela bis dan kereta oh bgitu Eropa itu cuman itu aja. Padahal kalo jenis asli plancong dan aventurir mah keadaan bukan seperti disebuah danau yg selalu tenang spt itu. Musti tau, pgimana itu rasanya brantem sama beruang Grizly, karna kita kemah di utan Eropa sana dan diserang. Musti tau juga pgimana rasanya masang obor buat hadepin se- gerombolan anjing srigala, misalkan. Juga, musti tau pgimana bikin api diantara tiupan badai salju dan bikin tempat perlindungan dari balok es. Dan jangan coba-coba, kalo lapar, pengen makan nasi dan sam- bel sagala coy ! Makan itu daging mentah klinci dan Elan yg masih segar, mentah. Nah kalo udah ngalemin petualangan spt diatas, boleh aja ptantang-ptenteng udah tau Eropa. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: cangkok pete fiq, bangun! (Dipo yang gila tidak bisa membedakan antara
johny-indon jadi turis conge'an beli kaos di Schiphol, lalu belagak sok tahu harga kaos di negeri Belanda. Dan dia tidak bisa merasakan betapa enaknya hidup di negeri Belanda yang punya sistem pengangkutan umum yang aduhai hingga tidak perlu beli mobil.. Sepeda sudah cukup. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, johny_indon johny_indon@... wrote: kimhook, coba sekali2 ngaca deh, yg di sini suka petantang petenteng sok kaya tapi kenyataannya sebaliknya itu siapa? elu yg kalo wara wiri di indonesia cuman sanggup bayar tiket bus antar kota non ac doang, dan hidup di negri orang cuman bisa beli sepedah kayak si juspik, eh masih berani nyombong pernah ke eropa tapi nginep di tenda sampe bela2in makan daging mentah buat ngirit ongkos hidup karena ngga sanggup buat beli sekedar burger di mc d. elu ngga malu hook, memamerkan kepada semua member milis betapa menderitanya hidup elu? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, kim kimhook@ wrote: --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Ya goblok. Beli kaos di Schiphol. Kemungkinan kaos untuk turis congekan yang pake teks I love Amsterdam atau teks sebangsanya untuk dibangga- banggain sebagai bukti pernah ke Amsterdam... ... ya gak heran kalo johny o'on itu tukang ptantang-ptenteng; dia mo be'kicau diantara kolega, udah pernah ke Eropa. Tapi yang jelas mah bukan plancong klas-klas kitaan dah. Masak sih mo bikin cerita sama kolega udah jlajah Eropa, padahal dia khan cuman turun naek kereta dan bis doang he he he Dia lihat pemandangan dari jendela bis dan kereta oh bgitu Eropa itu cuman itu aja. Padahal kalo jenis asli plancong dan aventurir mah keadaan bukan seperti disebuah danau yg selalu tenang spt itu. Musti tau, pgimana itu rasanya brantem sama beruang Grizly, karna kita kemah di utan Eropa sana dan diserang. Musti tau juga pgimana rasanya masang obor buat hadepin se- gerombolan anjing srigala, misalkan. Juga, musti tau pgimana bikin api diantara tiupan badai salju dan bikin tempat perlindungan dari balok es. Dan jangan coba-coba, kalo lapar, pengen makan nasi dan sam- bel sagala coy ! Makan itu daging mentah klinci dan Elan yg masih segar, mentah. Nah kalo udah ngalemin petualangan spt diatas, boleh aja ptantang-ptenteng udah tau Eropa. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Seven lessons in managing an uprising
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2011/1035/op221.htm 17 - 23 February 2011 Issue No. 1035 Published in Cairo by AL-AHRAM established in 1875 Seven lessons in managing an uprising The management of the demonstrations by the Mubarak regime was a textbook example of how not to behave in a crisis, says Mohamed Anis Salem* Looking back at the events over the 18 days of protests in Tahrir Square in Cairo, the actions by the demonstrators and the responses from the government have yielded a choreography that is rich in lessons for crisis managers. A crisis involves four elements: a major threat to the status quo; an element of surprise; and a short decision time. According to one expert, a crisis is a process of transformation where the old system can no longer be maintained. Therefore, the fourth defining quality of a crisis is the need for change. Time after time in the present crisis, the Egyptian regime misread the objectives of the young people on the streets, and then it responded with late and piecemeal concessions and often with the wrong actions and instruments. They are responding to Twitter with the mentality of the silent movies, one friend said. On the eve of the protests, the government held a winning hand. It had a legendary intelligence-gathering capacity coupled with a huge police machinery almost 1.5 million strong. The ruling party apparatus, with over 2.5 million members, seemed well ahead of its competitors in terms of resources, organisational capacity and outreach, and all of this was supported by a formidable communications network of multiple TV and radio stations and newspapers. A spoils system awarded loyalists prime plots of land, property, jobs, contracts and licences. Yet, all of this turned out to be a house of cards that collapsed in a few days when challenged by a movement generated by young bloggers and Facebook activists. What are the lessons that can be drawn from the mismanagement of the uprising? Lesson one is to read the writing on the wall. Much of the work of crisis management starts long before that midnight wake-up call. Usually, there will be an exercise of contingency planning, listing possible future scenarios, assigning roles to different people on a crisis- management team and defining the strategies and activities that should be implemented for each situation. It would be difficult to believe that there was no such plan in place for the Egyptian government. However, there is also another requirement called signal detection, being the stage in a crisis at which leaders should, but do not always, sense early warning signals (red flags) that suggest the possibility of a more serious situation developing. So what went wrong? Strategically and tactically, the government misread the signals. For many years, there was official self-delusion concerning the level of satisfaction in the country and developments in the region, as well as immediate facts on the ground. True, Egypt had seen economic growth of seven per cent a year, and even when that slackened the economy was able to weather the worst effects of the global economic crisis. There were also reassuring government opinion polls, with the prime minister referring to the increased number of owners of cars and air conditioners. However, there was also the unequal distribution of wealth, the continued misery of the poor (some 25 per cent of the population earning under $1 a day and 40 per cent under $2 a day), and perhaps even more importantly there was the manner in which money was flaunted: page after page of newspaper advertisements for multi-million dollar luxury houses and sea-side chalets; golf courses sitting next to slums; and story after story showing the marriage of wealth and political power. In early 2011, as the Jasmine Revolution in Tunisia made the headlines, the government media went into denial, finding one thousand and one reasons to explain why Tunisia's experience was irrelevant to the Egyptian situation. Tactically, the Tahrir demonstrations were also initially underestimated by the government media, which sneered at the very idea of protests on Police Day on 25 January. The following morning, the main government newspaper focussed on protests in Beirut. When the police used force to disband the young people on the streets, there was an underestimation of the reaction this would cause, making these young people yet more insistent on staying the course and indeed raising their demands. Lesson two of the recent crisis is to listen well. Once the genie is out of the bottle, it is vital to look the facts in the eye and hear the demands of the other side without presumptions. This facilitates perspective-taking, in other words the ability to consider another person's or group's point of view, which, in turn, will help better design responses. The
[proletar] Egypt's IT evolution
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2011/1035/op212.htm 17 - 23 February 2011 Issue No. 1035 Published in Cairo by AL-AHRAM established in 1875 Egypt's IT evolution Egypt's young people must now use their IT skills in phase two of the revolution, making the country a model for democracy movements in the Arab world, says Baquer Namazi* Young people with laptops and fired by souls thirsting for freedom have become the defining forces for democratic change in the 21st century, using peaceful and non-violent methods of protestation against state oppression. Iranian young people affiliated with the country's Green Movement were the first to use such new tools for mobilising a political movement. While the movement was crushed, the world became aware of the tremendous potential available to people bereft of state power who seek to protest injustice and oppression peacefully. In Tunisia, the movement worked well. However, it was IT-savvy young Egyptians, led by Wael Ghoneim and team members such as Ahmed Maher and Amr Salama, who were able to make the technology work on a spectacular scale. Modern IT facilitates instant communication and makes the global village into a reality. Internet tools, particularly social-networking services like Facebook and Twitter, have been credited with playing an important role in the Egyptian uprising, helping protesters to organise and communicate. The story can be told in Ghoneim's words. I've read about Egyptian history in history books, but they convinced us for 30 years that Egypt had died and that there was no such thing as Egypt any more. We were just a generation that needed to eat and sleep, he said. Yet, the new social media helped this generation to re-awake, to hunger for more than just food, to connect and share ideas, to dream and to plan for change. Tens of thousands of people on 25 January decided to start a search, a journey, for Egypt. And then they convinced hundreds of thousands, and then millions, of others. We were all looking for Egypt, and thank God we found her. When combined with satellite TV, the popular power to promote just causes through IT has become a formidable force. When the demonstrators in Tahrir Square seemed to be facing obstacles, Twitter messages brought hundreds of thousands more flowing into the Square. The participants in the protest demonstrations were people from all walks of life, moved from being passive observers to being active participants. As the movement gathered momentum, it broke down resistance to the will of the people, and Hosni Mubarak caved in and resigned. This leaderless movement of millions of people was able to connect with its members through IT. Ghoneim's followers on Twitter now stand at 750,000, and they are still growing. Now that the primary goal of the uprising has been achieved, the more difficult task of building a truly democratic society, one that cannot be dismantled by any future dictator, lies ahead. The unlimited energy, resourcefulness and creativity of the youth movement, which previously channelled its anger into toppling the leadership of the regime, must now be harnessed to the task of building sustainable democratic institutions that will ensure the realisation of the aspirations of the people, for which at least 300 young people gave their lives. Safeguards must be built into any new system of government that will ensure that state power cannot be hijacked by any special-interest group. In this regard, IT tools can become an essential tool for all citizens, particularly young people, allowing them to exercise direct democracy, to safeguard their achievements and to shape a future agenda. Egypt can now become a model for genuine democracy, allowing this to take root first in Egypt and then in all North African and Middle Eastern countries, which are sometimes seen by outside observers as infertile lands for democracy. Democratic societies, governed by accountable leaders, do not pose threats to the human rights of their citizens or the security of their neighbours. International and national standards of justice can be upheld far more effectively when promoted by leaders who are genuine representatives of their people than by those who are not. The basic rights of oppressed peoples, such as those of Gaza and the rest of Palestine, cannot be violated with impunity and in violation of international law and UN resolutions. The US public should not allow its leaders to veto such UN resolutions, including those seeking to prevent the building of illegal settlements in occupied Palestine. While there was consensus around the goal of removing Mubarak and dismantling the instruments of state oppression, there is, and will continue to be, considerable divergence in Egypt on how to shape the future. The major challenge ahead is to form a credible platform for
[proletar] Re: Sembari jogging tadi pagi saya (johny-indon kena fobi mikir...)
Wah betul-betul gawat. Orang mikir diributin. Jadi otak johny-indon itu bukan saja sudah rusak dan nggak bisa lagi dipakainya buat mikir, tapi dia juga suka senewenan kayak anjing gila melihat orang mikir. Gawat. Betul-betul gawat. Nggak mengherankan.. Otak johny-indon ini sudah rusak ancur-ancuran hasil didikan bapaknya yang adalah serdadu bajingan yang diajar membunuh manusia dan jadi bangsat yang buas, kejam, keji, zalim, ganas lagi biadab hingga tega-teganya memperlakukan anaknya kayak anjing budug dengan menendangnya hingga terkencing-kencing... --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, johny_indon johny_indon@... wrote: kebanyakan orang waras tuh jogging sambil dengerin lagu dari mp3 player. lah ini si kakek jogging sambil mikirin milis proletar. sinting emang. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Sembari jogging tadi pagi, dan sembari melihat keindahan gedung tua di Rapenburg diliputi kabut pagi, saya sempat mikir ke beberapa posting Wawan... Salah satunya adalah ceritanya dia nginjak al-Mushaf didepan orang tuanya. Ini tindakan jujur dan berani yang adalah sekali gus tindakan pembebasan diri Wawan dari pasung yang diletakkan orang sekelilingnya, termasuk oleh keluarganya, dibenaknya, yaitu pasung kibulan orang Arab primitif yang membikin kebanyakan orang itu tidak bisa berfikir rasional: al-Mushaf itu berisi wahyu Allah - yang nota bene tidak berbukti ada. Jarang ada orang Indonesia yang kejujuran terhadap dirinya punya keberanian dan yang punya keberanian untuk mencampakkan omong kosong orang sekelilingnya yang memasung otaknya itu. Sejak itu Wawan telah jadi orang bebas. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Aljazeera: Libya forces 'open fire' at funeral
Africa Libya forces 'open fire' at funeral At least 15 mourners reportedly killed in eastern city of Benghazi, as anti-government protests continue unabated. Last Modified: 19 Feb 2011 18:21 GMT Crowds have taken to the streets in Libya demanding more representation and the overthrow of Gaddafi Libyan forces have reportedly opened fire at a funeral in the eastern city of Benghazi, killing at least 15 people and injuring scores more as protests against Muammar Gaddafi, the country's long-time ruler, continued. The victims on Saturday were mourning the loss of protesters who had been killed during anti-government demonstrations in the city during the past week, witnesses told Al Jazeera. Reports of the deaths came after Human Rights Watch said earlier on Saturday that 84 people had died over the past three days. Ahmed, a businessman and resident of Benghazi who declined to give his real name for his own safety, told Al Jazeera that hospitals in the city were overwhelmed with the number of dead and injured and were running out of blood. It's a big, big massacre. We've never heard of anything like this before. It's horrible, he said. The shooting is still taking place right now. We're about 3km away from it, and we saw this morning army troops coming into the city. You can hear the shooting now. They don't care about us. Protests 'spreading' The unrest in Libya has largely been centred in the eastern cities of Benghazi, Bayda and Tobruk. But Al Jazeera has received reports that the protests have begun to spread to the country's west. Live Blog Verifying news from Libya has been difficult since the protests began, thanks to restrictions on journalists entering the country, as well as internet and mobile phone black outs imposed by the government. The Libyan government has blocked Al Jazeera's TV signal in the country and people have also reported that the network's website is inaccessible from there. Mohamed Abdulmalek, the chairman of Libya Watch - a human rights group that monitors abuses within the country - said the delay of protests in the west was due to the heavy presence of security forces there. The delay in the uprising in the west was not because the people did not want to go out, he told Al Jazeera from the UK. But the security presence in Tripoli, for example, was so intense that people gathered individually in the beginning. The Libyan regime anticipated this so the squares in Tripoli were occupied by security forces and therefore people were not allowed to gather. But eventually, the pressure on the capital started from outside Tripoli and now you see the people revolting. We have no doubt that the east and the west will unite. 'Ready to die' A day earlier, marchers mourning dead protesters in Benghazi, reportedly came under fire from security forces. Benghazi resident says hospitals in the city are overwhelmed [Al Jazeera] Mohamed el-Berqawy, an engineer in Benghazi, told Al Jazeera that the city was the scene of a massacre, and that four demonstrators had been killed. Where is the United Nations ... where is (US president Barack) Obama, where is the rest of the world, people are dying on the streets, he said. We are ready to die for our country. Protests in the country began on February 14, and three days later tens of thousands of anti-government demonstrators seeking to oust Gaddafi took to the streets in what organisers called a day of rage modelled after similar protests in Tunisia and Egypt that ousted longtime leaders there. Gaddafi has ruled Libya since 1969. Libyan state television, however, has made little mention of the anti-government protests. Instead, it showed supporters of Gaddafi filling the streets of the capital, singing as they surrounded his limousine as it crept along a road packed with people carrying his portrait. Libyan opposition The worst clashes during the unrest appear to have taken place in the eastern Cyrenaica region, centred on Benghazi, where support for Gaddafi has historically been weaker than in other parts of the country. Twitter Reaction Libya Protests RanaYaghmour profile RanaYaghmour RT @Jnoubiyeh: Al Jazeera Confirmed: Women and children are amongst the dead in the horrific #Benghazi massacre ordered by #Gaddafi. #Libya #Feb17 #Libyans 38 seconds ago · reply justiceandgrace profile justiceandgrace RT @Jnoubiyeh: Al Jazeera Confirmed: Women and children are amongst the dead in the horrific #Benghazi massacre ordered by #Gaddafi. #Libya #Feb17 #Libyans 30 seconds ago · reply monaeltahawy profile monaeltahawy #Libya cuts off the Internet http://bit.ly/eNQkwx Info lockdown, prisoners escape. Sounds awfully familiar, no? #Mubarak? #Gaddafi deja vu 3 hours ago · reply 10+ recent retweets LiberateTunisia profile LiberateTunisia #1575;#1604;#1602;#1584;#1575;#1601;#1610; #1571;#1581;#1583; #1575;#1604;#1593;#1588;#1585;#1577; #1575;#1604;#1605;#1576;#1588;#1585;#1610;#1606;
[proletar] Otak johny-indon ini sudah rusak ancur-ancuran hasil didikan bapaknya yang
Otak johny-indon ini sudah rusak ancur-ancuran hasil didikan bapaknya yang adalah serdadu bajingan yang diajar membunuh manusia dan jadi bangsat yang buas, kejam, keji, zalim, ganas lagi biadab hingga tega-teganya memperlakukan anaknya kayak anjing budug dengan menendangnya hingga terkencing-kencing... Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] World of words
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2011/1035/eg1901.htm World of words The international community scrambles to adjust to a new revolutionary reality in Egypt. So what did world leaders have to say, ponders Gamal Nkrumah Nothing is as powerful as an idea whose time has come -- Victor Hugo Click to view caption Back-dropped by the National Gallery, a demonstrator displays an Egyptian flag and a placard during a rally staged by human rights groups as part of a global protest event in Trafalgar Square, London, and in Lima, Peru, a day after ousting Mubarak -- As the dust settles, it is hard to gauge the robustness of statements made around the world with regards to Egypt's 25 January Revolution. The unexpectedly strong picture of the country has taken the world by storm. From Caracas to Canberra the consensus seems to be that people's power gamble on revolution appears to have paid off. Egypt is economically speaking spluttering even though the prospect of a recession seems as remote as revolution is real. And hence, Cairo's African break is a policy that remains a gamble. Small wonder, Egypt's African policy is raising pertinent questions as to its precise regional role. One of the most powerful trends to emerge from the crisis is a renewed effort to reduce economic and political dependence on the West. Egypt needs to keep up the momentum of hoisting high the banner of people power in the Arab world and Africa. The result is the prospect of a new cycle of African renaissance that is led by a resurgent Egypt, one that inevitably sidesteps much of the Western world. The timing is right for such a gambit. The underlying rationale for a new Africa policy in Egypt is that Cairo's new democratic dispensation perceives good relations with Egypt's African neighbours, especially Nile Basin nations, as a cornerstone of the expansion of the Egyptian economy. Africa's economy is running into the headwinds. Most African nations have already undergone the passage to Western-style multi-party democracy. However, most are realising that democracy does not necessarily come with rapid economic growth and abundant financial liquidity. Egypt is a country now poised to find itself in fresh diplomatic stand-offs with old foes, Israel for instance. Two questions arise. Can the Egyptian economy pivot quickly to find new sources of growth other than tourism and revenues from the Suez Canal? For Egypt to play a greater economic role in Africa, the democratically elected government resulting from people power will have to make a concerted drive on a series of structural reforms. It will also hark back to the days when as a new focus on Egypt's traditional post-1952 Revolution role as a pioneer of African liberation, a trendsetter of revolution and anti-imperialism. By the end of World War II, Egypt was under the brilliant governance of Gamal Abdel-Nasser, who together with Jawaharal Nehru, heir of Mahatma Gandhi, Kwame Nkrumah and Sékou Touré -- African leaders who together with Sukarno, then president of the recently liberated Indonesia -- created the Non- Aligned Movement of countries and advanced the struggle for independence in the former colonies, commented Cuba's Fidel Castro in the wake of the 25 January Revolution. The death of Gamal Abdel-Nasser on 28 September 1970 was an irreversible setback for Egypt, Castro lamented linking the July 1952 Revolution with the 25 January Revolution, or rather the course it must comply with on the international scene. Castro also noted that the defeat of the United States' principal ally in the bosom of Arab countries as he called the regime of ex-president Hosni Mubarak was a triumph for anti-imperialist forces worldwide. We support the people of Egypt and their brave fight for political rights and social justice, Castro hailed the 25 January Revolution. The liberal voices of the West, too, championed Egypt's revolution and echoed Castro's commendation. We want Egyptians to know that they have the support of the international community as they embark on the difficult path of building a truly democratic nation, former US president Jimmy Carter declared. United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon, not surprisingly paid tribute to Mubarak's difficult decision, taken in the wider interests of the Egyptian people. For all the heat, these are not revolutionary propositions. But they reflect the rather guarded reactions from many of Egypt's traditional allies. The Chairperson of the Commission of the African Union Jean Ping praised the peaceful and democratic power transition in Egypt. The overall statement was quite frankly inelegant and fell short of vociferous support for the 25 January Revolution. It is also true that for many years successive Egyptian
[proletar] Lankan maid kept as slave for 17 years
Refleksi : Apakah tidak ada WNI (TKI/TKW) yang bernasib seperti wanita ini dari Sri Lanka di Arab Saudia?? http://arabnews.com/saudiarabia/article271125.ece Lankan maid kept as slave for 17 years By MD RASOOLDEEN | ARAB NEWS Published: Feb 18, 2011 23:32 Updated: Feb 18, 2011 23:32 RIYADH: The Sri Lankan Embassy rescued on Wednesday an Asian maid who was kept as a virtual slave by her Saudi sponsor for 17 years. Kusuma Nandini, 56, came to Riyadh in 1994 from Sri Lanka and was kept a virtual prisoner at her sponsor's home. She was not paid salary even once during 15 years of her imprisonment and forbidden from communicating with her relatives in Sri Lanka. This is a record breaking case in the history of housemaids in the Kingdom. This woman was kept as a slave at one home for 15 years and then transferred to the home of her sponsor's brother. There she was given a salary for two years, said Sunil Wijesinghe, labor welfare officer at the Sri Lankan Embassy. According to diplomats, Nandini had forgotten her native tongue when she was rescued and behaved like a robot. She couldn't speak her native language and had forgotten her family members when she was rescued, said Wijesinghe. After meeting other Sri Lankans at the embassy, the maid began remembering things and started picking up her native language, he added. The Sri Lankan Embassy learned about Nandini's plight after her 25-year-old daughter, who lives in Kalutara, some 40 km from Colombo, informed the Sri Lankan Foreign Ministry that her family had not been in contact with her mother for 17 years. Embassy officials visited the home of Nandini's sponsor and those who lived there denied she was there. Officials persevered and were able to subsequently track her down and bring her to the embassy. I came to Riyadh when my eldest daughter, Yamuna Vinodini, was eight years old. Now she is 25 years old. My son Ravika Priyankara was six years at the time, Nandini told Arab News, adding that she came to the Kingdom to earn money to pay for her children's education as her husband was not in proper employment at the time. I am very happy and thankful to the mission in Riyadh for having rescued me from this house where I was working like a machine, she said, adding that she thought there was no point in thinking of her home in Sri Lanka as she was permanently imprisoned in the house. I did not see sunlight during the past 17 years since no one took me out, she said. The embassy is currently taking up the matter with the authorities concerned to get the maid's outstanding salary, which stands at SR54,000. Nandini has, however, managed to save SR7,200 which she received in wages from her sponsor's brother. She does not have a passport or a resident certificate to prove she was working in the Kingdom. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Libya's 'Brotherly Leader' feels ripples of change
http://arabnews.com/middleeast/article270893.ece Libya's 'Brotherly Leader' feels ripples of change In this Sept. 1, 2009 file photo, Libyan leader Moammar Qdadafi gestures with a green cane as he takes his seat behind bulletproof glass for a military parade in Green Square, Tripoli. (AP) 1 of 2 By GILES ELGOOD | REUTERS Published: Feb 18, 2011 20:47 Updated: Feb 19, 2011 18:38 LONDON: With his penchant for Bedouin tents, heavily armed female bodyguards and Ukrainian nurses, Muammar Qaddafi has cut a showmanlike figure as Libya's leader for more than 40 years. For most of that time he also held a prominent position in the West's international rogues' gallery. He has maintained tight control by clamping down on dissidents but his oil-producing nation is now beginning to feel the wind of change that is blowing across the Arab world. Anti-Qaddafi protesters clashed with police and government supporters in the eastern city of Benghazi, and Human Rights Watch reported that at least 24 people had died in two days of unrest this week. The Arab world's longest serving leader, he has no official government function and is known as the Brotherly Leader and Guide of the Revolution. Visionary or dictator, Qaddafi's quirky style is unique. His love of grand gestures is most on display on foreign visits when he sleeps in a Bedouin tent guarded by dozens of female bodyguards. During a visit to Italy in August last year, Qaddafi's invitation to hundreds of young women to convert to Islam overshadowed the two-day trip, which was intended to cement the growing ties between Tripoli and Rome. US diplomatic cables released by the WikiLeaks website have shed further light on the Libyan leader's tastes. One cable posted by The New York Times describes Qaddafi's insistence on staying on the first floor when he visited New York for a 2009 meeting at the United Nations and his reported refusal or inability to climb more than 35 steps. Qaddafi is also said to rely heavily on his staff of four Ukrainian nurses, including one woman described as a voluptuous blonde. The cable speculated about a romantic relationship. Qaddafi was born in 1942, the son of a Bedouin herdsman, in a tent near Sirte on the Mediterranean coast. He abandoned a geography course at university for a military career that included a short spell at a British army signals school. Qaddafi took power in a bloodless military coup in 1969 when he toppled King Idriss, and in the 1970s he formulated his Third Universal Theory, a middle road between communism and capitalism. Qaddafi oversaw the rapid development of his poverty-stricken country, previously known for little more than oil wells and deserts where huge tank battles took place in World War II. Giant projects One of his first tasks was to build up the armed forces, but he also spent billions of dollars of oil income on improving living standards, making him popular with the low-paid. Qaddafi has poured money into giant projects such as a steel plant in the town of Misrata and the Great Man-Made River, a scheme to pipe water from desert wells to coastal communities. He has used tough tactics against dissidents, who include Islamists, and has used purification committees of army and police officers, joined by loyal students, to keep control. But he is also respected by many Libyans. He is a figure of real charisma with a popular touch and has exploited the medium television unlike other Arab leaders. Qaddafi embraced the pan-Arabism of the late Egyptian leader Gamal Abdel Nasser and tried without success to merge Libya, Egypt and Syria into a federation. A similar attempt to join Libya and Tunisia ended in acrimony. In 1977 he changed the country's name to the Great Socialist Popular Libyan Arab Jamahiriyah (State of the Masses) and allowed people to air their views at people's congresses. However, he was shunned by the West for much of his rule which accused him of links to terrorism and revolutionary movements. US President Ronald Reagan called him a mad dog and sent war planes to bomb Libya in 1986. One of the 60 people killed was Qaddafi's adopted daughter. He was particularly reviled after the 1988 Pan Am airliner bombing over Lockerbie, Scotland, by Libyan agents in which 270 people were killed. UN sanctions imposed in 1992 to pressure Tripoli to hand over two Libyan suspects, crippled the economy, dampened Qaddafi's revolutionary spirit and took the sting out of his anti-capitalist, anti-Western rhetoric. Qaddafi abandoned his program of prohibited weapons in 2003 to return Libya into international mainstream politics. The return to Libya last year of the convicted Lockerbie bomber Abdelbaset Ali Al-Megrahi, released from a Scottish jail on health grounds, angered Washington. In September 2004, US President George W. Bush formally ended a US trade embargo as a result of Qaddafi's scrapping of the arms program and taking
[proletar] Young man faces bleak future in futile search for his Saudi father
Refl: Banyak TKW kembali dengan membawa anak, antara lain dari Arab Saudia. Mungkin saja anak-anak tsb mempunyai sejarah seperti Khaled Al-Dossary dalam artikel di bawah ini : http://arabnews.com/saudiarabia/article270983.ece Young man faces bleak future in futile search for his Saudi father Khaled Al-Dossary By FATIMA SIDIYA | ARAB NEWS Published: Feb 19, 2011 00:29 Updated: Feb 19, 2011 00:36 JEDDAH: Khaled Al-Dossary was born in Lebanon in 1983 and claims his father is a Saudi who abandoned all responsibility toward him and returned to the Kingdom. His case is not unique. With a fluent Lebanese accent, Al-Dossary spoke to Arab News about his continuous efforts to find a way back to his father to obtain a sense of belonging to his family back in the Kingdom. And, perhaps most important, his failing efforts to obtain citizenship and a Saudi passport, which required his biological father's recognition of paternity. His situation is made worse because Lebanon doesn't recognize him as a citizen, either. As in most Arab countries, citizenship is inherited through the father. I am considered a stateless, because the system in Lebanon does not yet approve that children can obtain the Lebanese mother's citizenship, he pointed out. Khaled claims he has contracted the Saudi Embassy in Lebanon and Awasser, a Saudi charitable society aimed at helping Saudi family members abroad, but he says they have not been helpful. I sent three e-mails to Awasser but they didn't get back to me, he said. When I called their head office, there was nothing but the answering machine. According to Al-Dossary, his father married his mother, who is of Palestinian origin with Lebanese nationality, when he was doing business in Lebanon. Later he moved back to Saudi Arabia, taking with him the marriage contract and leaving nothing behind. Even my father's relative who lives in Lebanon claimed that he knows nothing about my dad, said Al-Dossary. He turned the Internet to find out more about his father, but the family name is common and the search turned up no relevant information. He also called on the officials to help him though DNA test to reconnect with his biological father. In order to be allowed to go to school, Al-Dossary's mother associated his name with a Lebanese man and, through him, he obtained the Lebanese citizenship. But after the man passed away his family contested the claim he was the biological father. Subsequently, his citizenship was revoked in 1997 and he was denied further education. I was able to complete a diploma but could not go to college or get a proper job. Currently I'm unemployed can't even get married and have my own family, said Al-Dossary. I'm literally stuck. Speaking previously to the local Tawfeeq Al-Suwailim daily, the president of Awasser said the organization was able to repatriate 24 Saudi families consisting of 72 members. Families, he said, are brought from Kuwait, Bahrain, Syria, Egypt and Morocco. Al-Suwailim added that they are now taking care of 691 families consisting of 1,983 members in 24 countries whom the organization was unable to repatriate. The organization has an annual budget of SR6.5 million. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Jadi orang Islam udah pada ngaku bahwa mereka sudah keteteran dan cuma bisa
Jadi orang Islam udah pada ngaku bahwa mereka sudah keteteran dan cuma bisa ngerja'in orang, mengolok-olok orang dengan dusta, fitnah dan pameran kebusukan fikiran mereka. Artinya bahwa mereka tidak punya argumen untuk membantah apa yang saya katakan yaitu bahwa agama biadab Islam yang mereka anut itu hanya berdasarkan omong kosong dan kibulan orang Arab primitif doang. Artinya pula bahwa mereka itu telah kena tipu oleh orang Arab primitif. Dan bahwa mereka itu tidak punya harga diri, karena walaupun mereka tahu bahwa mereka itu kena tipu tapi mereka tetap saja menjadikan buku taik anjing al-Mushaf sebagai kitab suci dan tetap saja sembah Allah yang tidak berbukti ada itu. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] juspik kalap ketauan memfitnah
akhirnya cuman bisa me ngulang2 ocehannya terus menerus. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@... wrote: Wah betul-betul gawat. Orang mikir diributin. Jadi otak johny-indon itu bukan saja sudah rusak dan nggak bisa lagi dipakainya buat mikir, tapi dia juga suka senewenan kayak anjing gila melihat orang mikir. Gawat. Betul-betul gawat. Nggak mengherankan.. Otak johny-indon ini sudah rusak ancur-ancuran hasil didikan bapaknya yang adalah serdadu bajingan yang diajar membunuh manusia dan jadi bangsat yang buas, kejam, keji, zalim, ganas lagi biadab hingga tega-teganya memperlakukan anaknya kayak anjing budug dengan menendangnya hingga terkencing-kencing... --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, johny_indon johny_indon@ wrote: kebanyakan orang waras tuh jogging sambil dengerin lagu dari mp3 player. lah ini si kakek jogging sambil mikirin milis proletar. sinting emang. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Sembari jogging tadi pagi, dan sembari melihat keindahan gedung tua di Rapenburg diliputi kabut pagi, saya sempat mikir ke beberapa posting Wawan... Salah satunya adalah ceritanya dia nginjak al-Mushaf didepan orang tuanya. Ini tindakan jujur dan berani yang adalah sekali gus tindakan pembebasan diri Wawan dari pasung yang diletakkan orang sekelilingnya, termasuk oleh keluarganya, dibenaknya, yaitu pasung kibulan orang Arab primitif yang membikin kebanyakan orang itu tidak bisa berfikir rasional: al-Mushaf itu berisi wahyu Allah - yang nota bene tidak berbukti ada. Jarang ada orang Indonesia yang kejujuran terhadap dirinya punya keberanian dan yang punya keberanian untuk mencampakkan omong kosong orang sekelilingnya yang memasung otaknya itu. Sejak itu Wawan telah jadi orang bebas. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: juspik kalap ketauan memfitnah
Dengan otaknya yang sudah rusak dan jadi bbusuk, nista lagi menjijikkan, johny-indon tentu saja tidak bisa bantah apa yang saya katakan. Lantas dia cuap-cuap kayak nonok bebek yang baru dientoin monyt bonobo, unjuk isi otaknya yang sudah rusak ancur-ancuran. Saya ulang memuat apa yang saya tulis dan yang tidak bisa dibantahnya. Wah betul-betul gawat. Orang mikir diributin. Jadi otak johny-indon itu bukan saja sudah rusak dan nggak bisa lagi dipakainya buat mikir, tapi dia juga suka senewenan kayak anjing gila melihat orang mikir. Gawat. Betul-betul gawat. Nggak mengherankan.. Otak johny-indon ini sudah rusak ancur-ancuran hasil didikan bapaknya yang adalah serdadu bajingan yang diajar membunuh manusia dan jadi bangsat yang buas, kejam, keji, zalim, ganas lagi biadab hingga tega-teganya memperlakukan anaknya kayak anjing budug dengan menendangnya hingga terkencing-kencing... --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, johny_indon johny_indon@... wrote: akhirnya cuman bisa me ngulang2 ocehannya terus menerus. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Wah betul-betul gawat. Orang mikir diributin. Jadi otak johny-indon itu bukan saja sudah rusak dan nggak bisa lagi dipakainya buat mikir, tapi dia juga suka senewenan kayak anjing gila melihat orang mikir. Gawat. Betul-betul gawat. Nggak mengherankan.. Otak johny-indon ini sudah rusak ancur-ancuran hasil didikan bapaknya yang adalah serdadu bajingan yang diajar membunuh manusia dan jadi bangsat yang buas, kejam, keji, zalim, ganas lagi biadab hingga tega-teganya memperlakukan anaknya kayak anjing budug dengan menendangnya hingga terkencing-kencing... --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, johny_indon johny_indon@ wrote: kebanyakan orang waras tuh jogging sambil dengerin lagu dari mp3 player. lah ini si kakek jogging sambil mikirin milis proletar. sinting emang. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Sembari jogging tadi pagi, dan sembari melihat keindahan gedung tua di Rapenburg diliputi kabut pagi, saya sempat mikir ke beberapa posting Wawan... Salah satunya adalah ceritanya dia nginjak al-Mushaf didepan orang tuanya. Ini tindakan jujur dan berani yang adalah sekali gus tindakan pembebasan diri Wawan dari pasung yang diletakkan orang sekelilingnya, termasuk oleh keluarganya, dibenaknya, yaitu pasung kibulan orang Arab primitif yang membikin kebanyakan orang itu tidak bisa berfikir rasional: al-Mushaf itu berisi wahyu Allah - yang nota bene tidak berbukti ada. Jarang ada orang Indonesia yang kejujuran terhadap dirinya punya keberanian dan yang punya keberanian untuk mencampakkan omong kosong orang sekelilingnya yang memasung otaknya itu. Sejak itu Wawan telah jadi orang bebas. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Saya ulang: Otak johny-indon ini sudah rusak ancur-ancuran
Saya ulang memuat apa yagn saya tulis dan yang tidak bisa dibantah oleh johny-indon: . Wah betul-betul gawat. Orang mikir diributin. Jadi otak johny-indon itu bukan saja sudah rusak dan nggak bisa lagi dipakainya buat mikir, tapi dia juga suka senewenan kayak anjing gila melihat orang mikir. Gawat. Betul-betul gawat. Nggak mengherankan.. Otak johny-indon ini sudah rusak ancur-ancuran hasil didikan bapaknya yang adalah serdadu bajingan yang diajar membunuh manusia dan jadi bangsat yang buas, kejam, keji, zalim, ganas lagi biadab hingga tega-teganya memperlakukan anaknya kayak anjing budug dengan menendangnya hingga terkencing-kencing... Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: tentang ras...
Kalau yang dimakan barang haram hasilnya ngefek ke keluarga. Silahkan sesekali meninjau sekolah-sekolah LB. Ada berapa (banyak) titipan anak-anak yang ortunya lebih dari mampu. (Dijamain saat si ibu hamil asupan gizi berkwalitas ga kurang-kurang.) Lalu sesekali evaluasi (anak-anak) keluarga normal yang ortunya mendadak kaya dari harta haram, berapa banyak yang terbelit kasus, diantaranya kriminal dan malima. Sulit mencari para anak yang punya ortu kaya mendadak minder dipergaulan. Biasanya royal, obral dan atau brutal Juga ada pertimbangan, bukan hanya asupan, terhadap usia para (calon) ortu. Perempuan dikaruniai Allah swt menopose agar ga hamil lagi dikondisi ini. Bahkan sebaiknya ga hamil di ambang usia tertentu, (CMIIW) 40 tahun. Demikian juga lelaki hendaknya tahu diri. Kalik (keknya) asumsi asupan doank belum mencukupi utk membuat manusia kreatif-inovatif. PS: Malima: Lima M: madat (narkoba), maling (korupsi, rampog dst), madon (main perempuan), minum (minuman-keras), main (judi. Main kata-kata alias mencla-mencle kalik masuk juga kategori ini) --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Sangkakala the_sangkakala@... wrote: ras unggul di dunia adalah ayam ras yg dimakan semua orang di planet ini... kalo di Indonesia yg dianggap unggul adalah ras Jawa yg 55%...mungkin karena pada minum jamu pegel linu n kuat lelaki jadi giat nyangkul sawah n nyangkul istri dikedalaman malam hingga banyak anak dan jadinya selalu orang jawa menang pemilihan presiden walau telah dgn sistem demokrasi... Banyak anak identik dgn kekuasaan mayoritas... Sementara ras lain adalah minoritas... padahal belanda adalah minoritas yg unggul dulunya dgn mungkin kata orang dulu suka makan terong yg ditabukan orang se indonesia... Orang padang suka pedes sehingga unggul dikata-kata yg pedes hingga banyak yg mahir olah kata jadi politikus dan sastrawan... Jadi saya kira kita harus perbarui pola makan sehingga bisa jadi unggul terutama perbanyaklah makan sayur kacang panjang dgn harapan panjang sep orang eropa plus 3 gelas susu full kalsium n sedikit multivitamin.. Sang --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, wawan selarasmilis@ wrote: kita sebagai ras asia, yang dianggap oleh Adolf Hitler sebagai ras terendah (selain afrika), bukan berarti kiamat bagi ras asia... mekanisme biologis manusia diantaranya adalah proses tumbuh dan matinya sel, untuk itu...sebenarnya kualitas fisik manusia mempunyai ketergantungan yg tinggi terhadap materi2 yang berasal dari makanan dan minuman yang masuk ke dalam tubuh kita. kecerdasan juga sangat bergantung kepada materi makanan dan minuman yang kita konsumsi, karena dasar kecerdasan manusia terutama adalah tergantung dari hardware yang bernama otak. --- agama sering mengkonsepsikan bahwasanya kita harus berpuasa, atau mengurangi makan, atau kita di indonesia sering makan seadanya saja. tentu yg demikian bakalan menjadi manusia tidak produktif. Pengalaman saya, kami...tidak tertarik ingin membeli mobil atau rumah mewah, namun makanan berkualitas tinggi merupakan syarat yg tidak bisa ditawar-tawar lagi. --- Anda adalah ...makanan dan minuman apa yg anda konsumsi hari ini??? [URL=http://kharkiv.biz/rest/afisha/ ]аÑиÑа ХаÑÑков[/URL]wal Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] johny-indon yang goblok jadi turis dungu..
johny-indon yang otaknya sudah rusak ancur-ancuran beli kaos di Schiphol. Kemungkinan kaos untuk turis congekan yang pake teks I love Amsterdam atau teks sebangsanya untuk dibangga-banggain sebagai bukti pernah ke Amsterdam... Tapi di Supermarket Digros, Aldi atau Lidle atau Hoogvliet harga kaos cuman 2 euro atau tiga euro yang pake benang elastan. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Repost: Yesus a.s KATEBE (6)-Utk Orang Israel, Tauk
Yoh 12:13 mereka mengambil daun-daun palem, dan pergi menyongsong Dia sambil berseru-seru: Hosana! Diberkatilah Dia yang datang dalam nama Tuhan, Raja Israel! Bisa baca kan? Jelas kan? Raja Israel! Lalu ada Hosana!. Hosana? Iya Hosana, memangnya kenapa? Diberkatilah Dia Eh, diberkati? Tuhan diberkati? Kurang berkat 'pa? Lalu siapa yang diharapkan memberkati? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ndeboost rambitesemak@... wrote: Yoh 12:13 mereka mengambil daun-daun palem, dan pergi menyongsong Dia sambil berseru-seru: Hosana! Diberkatilah Dia yang datang dalam nama Tuhan, Raja Israel! Bisa baca kan? Jelas kan? Raja Israel! Lalu ada Hosana!. Hosana? Iya Hosana, memangnya kenapa? Diberkatilah Dia Eh, diberkati? Tuhan diberkati? Kurang berkat 'pa? Lalu siapa yang diharapkan memberkati? Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: johny-indon yang goblok jadi turis dungu..
...Tapi di Supermarket Digros, Aldi atau Lidle atau Hoogvliet harga kaos cuman 2 euro atau tiga euro yang pake benang elastan. Familiar amat Pak? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@... wrote: johny-indon yang otaknya sudah rusak ancur-ancuran beli kaos di Schiphol. Kemungkinan kaos untuk turis congekan yang pake teks I love Amsterdam atau teks sebangsanya untuk dibangga-banggain sebagai bukti pernah ke Amsterdam... Tapi di Supermarket Digros, Aldi atau Lidle atau Hoogvliet harga kaos cuman 2 euro atau tiga euro yang pake benang elastan. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Beda ayub yahya dan orang Islam seperti ndeboost nggak banyak kok..
Beda ayub yahya dan orang Islam seperti ndeboost nggak banyak kok.. Beda ayub yahya dan orang Islam seperti ndeboost nggak banyak kok.. Sama-sama dungu kayak babi, sama-sama pendusta dan sama-sama tukang fitnah. Isi otak mereka sama-sama busuknya kok. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: Beda ayub yahya dan orang Islam seperti ndeboost nggak banyak kok..
Ikuti RNW Pak? Yuk kita ramaikan kasih komen. (Setelah itu, kasih alamat situs yang dikomentari biar bisa jawab-berbalas). Iya Pak? nDeboost kadang penasaran, kok RNW banyak info ttg (pastur) gereja katulik tanpa pernah (CMIIW) memaparkan solah tingkah pendeta protestan. Pan Landa (CMIIW) banyakan protestan? Pendeta protestan baik-baik dan ga ada yang layak diekspose, gitu Pak? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@... wrote: Beda ayub yahya dan orang Islam seperti ndeboost nggak banyak kok.. Beda ayub yahya dan orang Islam seperti ndeboost nggak banyak kok.. Sama-sama dungu kayak babi, sama-sama pendusta dan sama-sama tukang fitnah. Isi otak mereka sama-sama busuknya kok. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] QS 4:82 ndeboost...
ndeboost yang dungu kayak babi itu nggak berani lagi ngutip QS 4:82 setelah great pretender dan dan sebuah kenyataan, antara lain, membuktikan bahwa ayat itu menunjukkan bahwa buku taik anjing al-Mushaf itu tidak berisi wahyu Allah. Tapi karena ndeboost tidak punyaharga diri maka dia tetapsaja menjadika buku taik anjing itu sebagai kitab suci. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Yesus a.s KATEBE (7)-Utk Orang Yahudi, Tauk
Yoh 11:8 Murid-murid itu berkata kepada-Nya: Rabi, baru-baru ini orang-orang Yahudi mencoba melempari Engkau, masih maukah Engkau kembali ke sana? Rabi mau dilempari rakyatnya. Hwarakadah. Takut ga ya? Eh, R A B I ? Para murid bilangnya R A B I ? Gak salah? Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: Beda ayub yahya dan orang Islam seperti ndeboost nggak banyak kok..
Cara diskusi deboost yang dungu kayak babi itu itu nggak banyak beda dengan gaya diskusi ayub yahya yangjuga sama-sma dungu kayak babi: sama-sama suka OOT --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ndeboost rambitesemak@... wrote: Ikuti RNW Pak? Yuk kita ramaikan kasih komen. (Setelah itu, kasih alamat situs yang dikomentari biar bisa jawab-berbalas). Iya Pak? nDeboost kadang penasaran, kok RNW banyak info ttg (pastur) gereja katulik tanpa pernah (CMIIW) memaparkan solah tingkah pendeta protestan. Pan Landa (CMIIW) banyakan protestan? Pendeta protestan baik-baik dan ga ada yang layak diekspose, gitu Pak? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Beda ayub yahya dan orang Islam seperti ndeboost nggak banyak kok.. Beda ayub yahya dan orang Islam seperti ndeboost nggak banyak kok.. Sama-sama dungu kayak babi, sama-sama pendusta dan sama-sama tukang fitnah. Isi otak mereka sama-sama busuknya kok. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Aljazeera: Yemen rivals exchange gunfire
Lihat videonya.. -- Middle East Yemen rivals exchange gunfire Pro- and anti-government supporters clash in capital Sanaa as protests against President Saleh enter 10th day. Last Modified: 19 Feb 2011 16:30 GMT Protesters' main grievances include poverty and alleged government corruption Several anti-government protesters have been injured in clashes with supporters of Yemen's President Ali Abdullah Saleh, a day after five people died in protests against his 32-year rule. It included one protester who was shot in the neck, witnesses said. Doctors at the hospital where he was taken said he was in a stable condition. At one stage both sides fired pistols and assault rifles - the first reported use of firearms by demonstrators,the Reuters news agency reported. Four other Saleh opponents were wounded by gunfire, two of them seriously, and three were wounded when demonstrators threw stones at each other outside the university. Around 1,000 anti-Saleh demonstrators chanted Leave! Leave! and The people want the fall of the regime!, Between 200 and 300 Saleh supporters called for dialogue. Saturday was the 10th straight day of protests in Yemen inspired by uprisings in Egypt and Tunisia. Demonstrators are calling for the ouster of Saleh - a key US ally in fighting al-Qaeda. In a concession to protesters, the president has promised to step down when his term ends in 2013 and not to hand power to his son. A coalition of opposition parties has agreed to talk to him, but protests have continued. In south Yemen, where resentment of rule from Sanaa runs high, dozens of men used their cars in the town of Karish to block the main road between Taiz and the southern port city of Aden, shouting for the fall of the regime, residents said. 'No to opppression' In Aden as many as 400 protesters staged a peaceful sit-in, holding banners saying: No to oppression. No to corruption. The local council of Sheikh Othman, a directorate in Aden, said in a statement it resigned in protest at the use of live bullets by security forces against protesters which led to deaths and injuries in the city on Friday. In Sanaa, the editor of the defence ministry newspaper was wounded when he was beaten and stabbed by anti-government protesters, a government official told Reuters. On Friday, security forces and pro-government loyalists clashed in several cities with crowds demanding Saleh step down. Doctors said four people died from gunfire in Aden and one was killed by a grenade in Taiz, Yemen's second city. Although the crowds are smaller in number compared to what happens in different countries, the hostile and fearful mood setting over the last 48 hours may spark more violence, Hashem Ahelbarra, Al Jazeera's correspondent in Sanaa, said on Friday. The fear here is that if events reach a tipping point, armed tribes may raid the capital and this is why people are worried about bloody confrontations. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: QS 4:82 ndeboost...
Kwkwkwk . Tensi Pak? Jangan donk. Ga serius-duarius lah, santai ajalah. Di Landa jam berapa Pak? Belum lalok? Besok letoy di V-park nyahok lho. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@... wrote: ndeboost yang dungu kayak babi itu nggak berani lagi ngutip QS 4:82 setelah great pretender dan dan sebuah kenyataan, antara lain, membuktikan bahwa ayat itu menunjukkan bahwa buku taik anjing al-Mushaf itu tidak berisi wahyu Allah. Tapi karena ndeboost tidak punyaharga diri maka dia tetapsaja menjadika buku taik anjing itu sebagai kitab suci. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Aljazeera: Yemen rivals exchange gunfire
Middle East Yemen rivals exchange gunfire Pro- and anti-government supporters clash in capital Sanaa as protests against President Saleh enter 10th day. Last Modified: 19 Feb 2011 16:30 GMT Protesters' main grievances include poverty and alleged government corruption Several anti-government protesters have been injured in clashes with supporters of Yemen's President Ali Abdullah Saleh, a day after five people died in protests against his 32-year rule. It included one protester who was shot in the neck, witnesses said. Doctors at the hospital where he was taken said he was in a stable condition. At one stage both sides fired pistols and assault rifles - the first reported use of firearms by demonstrators,the Reuters news agency reported. Four other Saleh opponents were wounded by gunfire, two of them seriously, and three were wounded when demonstrators threw stones at each other outside the university. Around 1,000 anti-Saleh demonstrators chanted Leave! Leave! and The people want the fall of the regime!, Between 200 and 300 Saleh supporters called for dialogue. Saturday was the 10th straight day of protests in Yemen inspired by uprisings in Egypt and Tunisia. Demonstrators are calling for the ouster of Saleh - a key US ally in fighting al-Qaeda. In a concession to protesters, the president has promised to step down when his term ends in 2013 and not to hand power to his son. A coalition of opposition parties has agreed to talk to him, but protests have continued. In south Yemen, where resentment of rule from Sanaa runs high, dozens of men used their cars in the town of Karish to block the main road between Taiz and the southern port city of Aden, shouting for the fall of the regime, residents said. 'No to opppression' In Aden as many as 400 protesters staged a peaceful sit-in, holding banners saying: No to oppression. No to corruption. The local council of Sheikh Othman, a directorate in Aden, said in a statement it resigned in protest at the use of live bullets by security forces against protesters which led to deaths and injuries in the city on Friday. In Sanaa, the editor of the defence ministry newspaper was wounded when he was beaten and stabbed by anti-government protesters, a government official told Reuters. On Friday, security forces and pro-government loyalists clashed in several cities with crowds demanding Saleh step down. Doctors said four people died from gunfire in Aden and one was killed by a grenade in Taiz, Yemen's second city. Although the crowds are smaller in number compared to what happens in different countries, the hostile and fearful mood setting over the last 48 hours may spark more violence, Hashem Ahelbarra, Al Jazeera's correspondent in Sanaa, said on Friday. The fear here is that if events reach a tipping point, armed tribes may raid the capital and this is why people are worried about bloody confrontations. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: Beda ayub yahya dan orang Islam seperti ndeboost nggak banyak kok..
Kan tiap orang punya style masing-masing? Sewot karena ga sesuai dg pola pikir nT? Ga lah Pak. Ga diskriminatif gitu. Katanya perhatian sama HAM. Gimana Pak proletaran di RNW? Mau ya Pak? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@... wrote: Cara diskusi deboost yang dungu kayak babi itu itu nggak banyak beda dengan gaya diskusi ayub yahya yangjuga sama-sma dungu kayak babi: sama-sama suka OOT --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ndeboost rambitesemak@ wrote: Ikuti RNW Pak? Yuk kita ramaikan kasih komen. (Setelah itu, kasih alamat situs yang dikomentari biar bisa jawab-berbalas). Iya Pak? nDeboost kadang penasaran, kok RNW banyak info ttg (pastur) gereja katulik tanpa pernah (CMIIW) memaparkan solah tingkah pendeta protestan. Pan Landa (CMIIW) banyakan protestan? Pendeta protestan baik-baik dan ga ada yang layak diekspose, gitu Pak? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Beda ayub yahya dan orang Islam seperti ndeboost nggak banyak kok.. Beda ayub yahya dan orang Islam seperti ndeboost nggak banyak kok.. Sama-sama dungu kayak babi, sama-sama pendusta dan sama-sama tukang fitnah. Isi otak mereka sama-sama busuknya kok. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: QS 4:82 ndeboost...
Cara diskusi deboost yang dungu kayak babi itu itu nggak banyak beda dengan gaya diskusi ayub yahya yangjuga sama-sma dungu kayak babi: sama-sama suka OOT --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ndeboost rambitesemak@... wrote: Kwkwkwk . Tensi Pak? Jangan donk. Ga serius-duarius lah, santai ajalah. Di Landa jam berapa Pak? Belum lalok? Besok letoy di V-park nyahok lho. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: ndeboost yang dungu kayak babi itu nggak berani lagi ngutip QS 4:82 setelah great pretender dan dan sebuah kenyataan, antara lain, membuktikan bahwa ayat itu menunjukkan bahwa buku taik anjing al-Mushaf itu tidak berisi wahyu Allah. Tapi karena ndeboost tidak punyaharga diri maka dia tetapsaja menjadika buku taik anjing itu sebagai kitab suci. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: Beda ayub yahya dan orang Islam seperti ndeboost nggak banyak kok..
Cara diskusi deboost yang dungu kayak babi itu itu nggak banyak beda dengan gaya diskusi ayub yahya yangjuga sama-sma dungu kayak babi: sama-sama suka OOT --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ndeboost rambitesemak@... wrote: Kan tiap orang punya style masing-masing? Sewot karena ga sesuai dg pola pikir nT? Ga lah Pak. Ga diskriminatif gitu. Katanya perhatian sama HAM. Gimana Pak proletaran di RNW? Mau ya Pak? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Cara diskusi deboost yang dungu kayak babi itu itu nggak banyak beda dengan gaya diskusi ayub yahya yangjuga sama-sma dungu kayak babi: sama-sama suka OOT --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ndeboost rambitesemak@ wrote: Ikuti RNW Pak? Yuk kita ramaikan kasih komen. (Setelah itu, kasih alamat situs yang dikomentari biar bisa jawab-berbalas). Iya Pak? nDeboost kadang penasaran, kok RNW banyak info ttg (pastur) gereja katulik tanpa pernah (CMIIW) memaparkan solah tingkah pendeta protestan. Pan Landa (CMIIW) banyakan protestan? Pendeta protestan baik-baik dan ga ada yang layak diekspose, gitu Pak? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Beda ayub yahya dan orang Islam seperti ndeboost nggak banyak kok.. Beda ayub yahya dan orang Islam seperti ndeboost nggak banyak kok.. Sama-sama dungu kayak babi, sama-sama pendusta dan sama-sama tukang fitnah. Isi otak mereka sama-sama busuknya kok. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Islam, agama anjing yang telah merusak otak Dipo, johny-indon,
Islam, agama anjing yang telah merusak otak Dipo, johny-indon, ndeboost, PAREWA PAREWA, Pramana Yudha, rezameutia, Roman Proteus, Tawang dll. yang memang dungu-dungu kayak anjing.. Mereka jadi pendusta dan tukang fitnah... Seperti ayub yahya dan Hasan Basri... Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: Beda ayub yahya dan orang Islam seperti ndeboost nggak banyak kok..
Cara diskusi deboost yang dungu kayak babi itu itu nggak banyak beda dengan gaya diskusi ayub yahya yangjuga sama-sma dungu kayak babi: sama-sama suka OOT --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ndeboost rambitesemak@... wrote: Hihihi .. Pagi-pagi sdh obral. Ngantuk? Kenapa ga respon mengenai RNW? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Cara diskusi deboost yang dungu kayak babi itu itu nggak banyak beda dengan gaya diskusi ayub yahya yangjuga sama-sma dungu kayak babi: sama-sama suka OOT --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ndeboost rambitesemak@ wrote: Kan tiap orang punya style masing-masing? Sewot karena ga sesuai dg pola pikir nT? Ga lah Pak. Ga diskriminatif gitu. Katanya perhatian sama HAM. Gimana Pak proletaran di RNW? Mau ya Pak? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Cara diskusi deboost yang dungu kayak babi itu itu nggak banyak beda dengan gaya diskusi ayub yahya yangjuga sama-sma dungu kayak babi: sama-sama suka OOT --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ndeboost rambitesemak@ wrote: Ikuti RNW Pak? Yuk kita ramaikan kasih komen. (Setelah itu, kasih alamat situs yang dikomentari biar bisa jawab-berbalas). Iya Pak? nDeboost kadang penasaran, kok RNW banyak info ttg (pastur) gereja katulik tanpa pernah (CMIIW) memaparkan solah tingkah pendeta protestan. Pan Landa (CMIIW) banyakan protestan? Pendeta protestan baik-baik dan ga ada yang layak diekspose, gitu Pak? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Beda ayub yahya dan orang Islam seperti ndeboost nggak banyak kok.. Beda ayub yahya dan orang Islam seperti ndeboost nggak banyak kok.. Sama-sama dungu kayak babi, sama-sama pendusta dan sama-sama tukang fitnah. Isi otak mereka sama-sama busuknya kok. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: IDEOLOGI2 YG MEMBINGUNGKAN (ISLAM, KOMUNIS, NASIONALIS MILITER)
Mungkin inilah zaman dimana kita melihat segala sesuatu secara RIIL. Sistem2 yg sesat dibiarkan berkembang dan kita lihat sekarang HASILNYA. Jadi bersyukurlah wahai manusia, kita yg goblog sekarang jadi pinter memaknai sistem2 penyesatan dan trik2 tinggi alam semesta, pertarungan antara yang JAHAT dan yang BAIK. Itulah yang kita saksikan, sistem2 sesat yang kelihatan hebat akan kelihatan belangnya dan hancur. Sistem yang benar akan muncul... --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, pemerhatidunia pemerhatidunia@... wrote: ISLAM (YG SERIUS) == KOMUNIS == FASIS MILITER?? Orang dari FPI bilang mari kita kembali pada Islam yang murni, lalu ketahuan lah Islam yang murni itu yang tidak bisa menerima perbedaan dan gemar melakukan kekerasan. Contoh bagus komplit adalah MUI dan FPI. Tidak heran, wong dulunya Muhammad itu setelah diusir dari Mekkah lalu aksi balas dendam merampok membunuh dan menghancurkan, bahkan mengeliminasi orang yahudi nasrani dari Arab. Itulah the real ISLAM bagi kalian yang mau serius dg Muhammad. Lalu yg bikin aku pusing adalah teman ku seorang yg sangat senior mengatakan bahwa Islam Brotherhood yang di Mesir sukses mempelopori revolusi itu adalah sebenarnya KOMUNIS, karena mereka menggunakan modus atau metode dan tujuan yang sama. Demikian pula tokoh oposisi di Mesir itu adalah orang komunis. Dan seluruh Timur tengah guncang sebenarnya dibelakangnya karena gerakan komunis. Lho, kok bisa ?? aku penasaran. Ya, coba lihat, katanya. Caranya sama, tujuannya sama, memang mereka pintar membuat sistem IDEOLOGI. Satunya pakai nama agama, jihad di jalan Allah satunya pakai nama revolusi rakyat satunya lagi pakai nasionalis militer , jargonnya beda, padahal tujuan dan cara mereka menguasai dunia sama. Rakyat akan ditindas, dengan hukum komunis, hukum militer atau hukum syariat. Dalam tiga hukum itu, semuanya perlakuannya sama kejamnya. Lihat tuh cara komunis Russia dan China, bandingkan dengan penguasa Arab Saudi, Pakistan, Yemen, Bahrain, Libya, Iran, sama saja bukan caranya mereka menginjak rakyat?? Aku ingat juga bahwa Islam itu memang bahaya latent, sebab jika anak2 kita serius meneladani Muhammad, tidak ada garansi mereka gak jadi teroris. Sama dong dengan komunis, juga dengan rezim militer Soeharto ... Kemarin di Al Jazeera di acaranya Riz Khan ada wawancara dengan beberapa orang Pakistan, yang mengeluh, karena mereka makin islamisasi makin jahat pada perbedaan, makin kejam, makin tidak toleran. Ada UU menghukum semua yg menghujat Nabi Muhammad, disalah gunakan untuk menindas minoritas dan org2 kafir, bahkan ada gubernur ditembak mati oleh pengawalnya dan yg membunuh malah didukung. Sama di Indonesia, lihat tuh kasus Temanggung dan Ahmadiyyah. Kacau sekali sistem moral Islam itu. Cara cuci otaknya pun sama dengan komunis dan militer. ISLAM (YG SERIUS) == KOMUNIS == FASIS MILITER itu kesimpulannya. Aku bingung tapi gak bisa bantah. Apa ini semua DARI SUMBER YANG SAMA??? Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: IDEOLOGI2 YG MEMBINGUNGKAN (ISLAM, KOMUNIS, NASIONALIS MILITER)
ISLAM (YG SERIUS) == KOMUNIS == FASIS MILITER Bagaimana dengan Pauline Crosstian alias Pemimpin maupun umat Kristen? Apa Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin Islam, Hirohito, Bush Jr, Pol Pot Islam? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, pemerhatidunia pemerhatidunia@... wrote: ISLAM (YG SERIUS) == KOMUNIS == FASIS MILITER?? Orang dari FPI bilang mari kita kembali pada Islam yang murni, lalu ketahuan lah Islam yang murni itu yang tidak bisa menerima perbedaan dan gemar melakukan kekerasan. Contoh bagus komplit adalah MUI dan FPI. Tidak heran, wong dulunya Muhammad itu setelah diusir dari Mekkah lalu aksi balas dendam merampok membunuh dan menghancurkan, bahkan mengeliminasi orang yahudi nasrani dari Arab. Itulah the real ISLAM bagi kalian yang mau serius dg Muhammad. Lalu yg bikin aku pusing adalah teman ku seorang yg sangat senior mengatakan bahwa Islam Brotherhood yang di Mesir sukses mempelopori revolusi itu adalah sebenarnya KOMUNIS, karena mereka menggunakan modus atau metode dan tujuan yang sama. Demikian pula tokoh oposisi di Mesir itu adalah orang komunis. Dan seluruh Timur tengah guncang sebenarnya dibelakangnya karena gerakan komunis. Lho, kok bisa ?? aku penasaran. Ya, coba lihat, katanya. Caranya sama, tujuannya sama, memang mereka pintar membuat sistem IDEOLOGI. Satunya pakai nama agama, jihad di jalan Allah satunya pakai nama revolusi rakyat satunya lagi pakai nasionalis militer , jargonnya beda, padahal tujuan dan cara mereka menguasai dunia sama. Rakyat akan ditindas, dengan hukum komunis, hukum militer atau hukum syariat. Dalam tiga hukum itu, semuanya perlakuannya sama kejamnya. Lihat tuh cara komunis Russia dan China, bandingkan dengan penguasa Arab Saudi, Pakistan, Yemen, Bahrain, Libya, Iran, sama saja bukan caranya mereka menginjak rakyat?? Aku ingat juga bahwa Islam itu memang bahaya latent, sebab jika anak2 kita serius meneladani Muhammad, tidak ada garansi mereka gak jadi teroris. Sama dong dengan komunis, juga dengan rezim militer Soeharto ... Kemarin di Al Jazeera di acaranya Riz Khan ada wawancara dengan beberapa orang Pakistan, yang mengeluh, karena mereka makin islamisasi makin jahat pada perbedaan, makin kejam, makin tidak toleran. Ada UU menghukum semua yg menghujat Nabi Muhammad, disalah gunakan untuk menindas minoritas dan org2 kafir, bahkan ada gubernur ditembak mati oleh pengawalnya dan yg membunuh malah didukung. Sama di Indonesia, lihat tuh kasus Temanggung dan Ahmadiyyah. Kacau sekali sistem moral Islam itu. Cara cuci otaknya pun sama dengan komunis dan militer. ISLAM (YG SERIUS) == KOMUNIS == FASIS MILITER itu kesimpulannya. Aku bingung tapi gak bisa bantah. Apa ini semua DARI SUMBER YANG SAMA??? Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: IDEOLOGI2 YG MEMBINGUNGKAN (ISLAM, KOMUNIS, NASIONALIS MILITER)
..Itulah yang kita saksikan, sistem2 sesat yang kelihatan hebat akan kelihatan belangnya dan hancur. Sistem yang benar akan muncul... Sudah dan sedang kok. Namun iblis kek Bush dkk (termasuk para embrio) datang dan sementara pada ikut campur. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, pemerhatidunia pemerhatidunia@... wrote: Mungkin inilah zaman dimana kita melihat segala sesuatu secara RIIL. Sistem2 yg sesat dibiarkan berkembang dan kita lihat sekarang HASILNYA. Jadi bersyukurlah wahai manusia, kita yg goblog sekarang jadi pinter memaknai sistem2 penyesatan dan trik2 tinggi alam semesta, pertarungan antara yang JAHAT dan yang BAIK. Itulah yang kita saksikan, sistem2 sesat yang kelihatan hebat akan kelihatan belangnya dan hancur. Sistem yang benar akan muncul... --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, pemerhatidunia pemerhatidunia@ wrote: ISLAM (YG SERIUS) == KOMUNIS == FASIS MILITER?? Orang dari FPI bilang mari kita kembali pada Islam yang murni, lalu ketahuan lah Islam yang murni itu yang tidak bisa menerima perbedaan dan gemar melakukan kekerasan. Contoh bagus komplit adalah MUI dan FPI. Tidak heran, wong dulunya Muhammad itu setelah diusir dari Mekkah lalu aksi balas dendam merampok membunuh dan menghancurkan, bahkan mengeliminasi orang yahudi nasrani dari Arab. Itulah the real ISLAM bagi kalian yang mau serius dg Muhammad. Lalu yg bikin aku pusing adalah teman ku seorang yg sangat senior mengatakan bahwa Islam Brotherhood yang di Mesir sukses mempelopori revolusi itu adalah sebenarnya KOMUNIS, karena mereka menggunakan modus atau metode dan tujuan yang sama. Demikian pula tokoh oposisi di Mesir itu adalah orang komunis. Dan seluruh Timur tengah guncang sebenarnya dibelakangnya karena gerakan komunis. Lho, kok bisa ?? aku penasaran. Ya, coba lihat, katanya. Caranya sama, tujuannya sama, memang mereka pintar membuat sistem IDEOLOGI. Satunya pakai nama agama, jihad di jalan Allah satunya pakai nama revolusi rakyat satunya lagi pakai nasionalis militer , jargonnya beda, padahal tujuan dan cara mereka menguasai dunia sama. Rakyat akan ditindas, dengan hukum komunis, hukum militer atau hukum syariat. Dalam tiga hukum itu, semuanya perlakuannya sama kejamnya. Lihat tuh cara komunis Russia dan China, bandingkan dengan penguasa Arab Saudi, Pakistan, Yemen, Bahrain, Libya, Iran, sama saja bukan caranya mereka menginjak rakyat?? Aku ingat juga bahwa Islam itu memang bahaya latent, sebab jika anak2 kita serius meneladani Muhammad, tidak ada garansi mereka gak jadi teroris. Sama dong dengan komunis, juga dengan rezim militer Soeharto ... Kemarin di Al Jazeera di acaranya Riz Khan ada wawancara dengan beberapa orang Pakistan, yang mengeluh, karena mereka makin islamisasi makin jahat pada perbedaan, makin kejam, makin tidak toleran. Ada UU menghukum semua yg menghujat Nabi Muhammad, disalah gunakan untuk menindas minoritas dan org2 kafir, bahkan ada gubernur ditembak mati oleh pengawalnya dan yg membunuh malah didukung. Sama di Indonesia, lihat tuh kasus Temanggung dan Ahmadiyyah. Kacau sekali sistem moral Islam itu. Cara cuci otaknya pun sama dengan komunis dan militer. ISLAM (YG SERIUS) == KOMUNIS == FASIS MILITER itu kesimpulannya. Aku bingung tapi gak bisa bantah. Apa ini semua DARI SUMBER YANG SAMA??? Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: Beda ayub yahya dan orang Islam seperti ndeboost nggak banyak kok..
Tensi Pak. Tensi. Ouik dulu Pak. Subuh memanggil --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@... wrote: Cara diskusi deboost yang dungu kayak babi itu itu nggak banyak beda dengan gaya diskusi ayub yahya yangjuga sama-sma dungu kayak babi: sama-sama suka OOT --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ndeboost rambitesemak@ wrote: Hihihi .. Pagi-pagi sdh obral. Ngantuk? Kenapa ga respon mengenai RNW? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Cara diskusi deboost yang dungu kayak babi itu itu nggak banyak beda dengan gaya diskusi ayub yahya yangjuga sama-sma dungu kayak babi: sama-sama suka OOT --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ndeboost rambitesemak@ wrote: Kan tiap orang punya style masing-masing? Sewot karena ga sesuai dg pola pikir nT? Ga lah Pak. Ga diskriminatif gitu. Katanya perhatian sama HAM. Gimana Pak proletaran di RNW? Mau ya Pak? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Cara diskusi deboost yang dungu kayak babi itu itu nggak banyak beda dengan gaya diskusi ayub yahya yangjuga sama-sma dungu kayak babi: sama-sama suka OOT --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ndeboost rambitesemak@ wrote: Ikuti RNW Pak? Yuk kita ramaikan kasih komen. (Setelah itu, kasih alamat situs yang dikomentari biar bisa jawab-berbalas). Iya Pak? nDeboost kadang penasaran, kok RNW banyak info ttg (pastur) gereja katulik tanpa pernah (CMIIW) memaparkan solah tingkah pendeta protestan. Pan Landa (CMIIW) banyakan protestan? Pendeta protestan baik-baik dan ga ada yang layak diekspose, gitu Pak? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Beda ayub yahya dan orang Islam seperti ndeboost nggak banyak kok.. Beda ayub yahya dan orang Islam seperti ndeboost nggak banyak kok.. Sama-sama dungu kayak babi, sama-sama pendusta dan sama-sama tukang fitnah. Isi otak mereka sama-sama busuknya kok. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: IDEOLOGI2 YG MEMBINGUNGKAN (ISLAM, KOMUNIS, NASIONALIS MILITER)
Pemimpin Kristen terutama katolik abad pertengahan penyembang Bunda Maria itu memang sama juga dengan fasis. Ratusan ribu mereka bantai. Kristen, Budha dan Hindu yg sekarang baik2 aja. Se aneh atau se sesat apapun kepercayaan mereka, tidak ada kudengar lagi mereka saling sesar menyesatkan apalagi bunuh membunuh. Tetapi bandingkan dengan kenyataan Islam yg marak sekarang. Maksudku, ada sesuatu kekuatan yang mengilhami dan menyusupi ideologi2 itu sehingga mereka membunuh manusia, mencari kekuasaan, menghalalkan semua cara. Semua agama dan ideologi tanpa kecuali dimasuki. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ndeboost rambitesemak@... wrote: ISLAM (YG SERIUS) == KOMUNIS == FASIS MILITER Bagaimana dengan Pauline Crosstian alias Pemimpin maupun umat Kristen? Apa Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin Islam, Hirohito, Bush Jr, Pol Pot Islam? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, pemerhatidunia pemerhatidunia@ wrote: ISLAM (YG SERIUS) == KOMUNIS == FASIS MILITER?? Orang dari FPI bilang mari kita kembali pada Islam yang murni, lalu ketahuan lah Islam yang murni itu yang tidak bisa menerima perbedaan dan gemar melakukan kekerasan. Contoh bagus komplit adalah MUI dan FPI. Tidak heran, wong dulunya Muhammad itu setelah diusir dari Mekkah lalu aksi balas dendam merampok membunuh dan menghancurkan, bahkan mengeliminasi orang yahudi nasrani dari Arab. Itulah the real ISLAM bagi kalian yang mau serius dg Muhammad. Lalu yg bikin aku pusing adalah teman ku seorang yg sangat senior mengatakan bahwa Islam Brotherhood yang di Mesir sukses mempelopori revolusi itu adalah sebenarnya KOMUNIS, karena mereka menggunakan modus atau metode dan tujuan yang sama. Demikian pula tokoh oposisi di Mesir itu adalah orang komunis. Dan seluruh Timur tengah guncang sebenarnya dibelakangnya karena gerakan komunis. Lho, kok bisa ?? aku penasaran. Ya, coba lihat, katanya. Caranya sama, tujuannya sama, memang mereka pintar membuat sistem IDEOLOGI. Satunya pakai nama agama, jihad di jalan Allah satunya pakai nama revolusi rakyat satunya lagi pakai nasionalis militer , jargonnya beda, padahal tujuan dan cara mereka menguasai dunia sama. Rakyat akan ditindas, dengan hukum komunis, hukum militer atau hukum syariat. Dalam tiga hukum itu, semuanya perlakuannya sama kejamnya. Lihat tuh cara komunis Russia dan China, bandingkan dengan penguasa Arab Saudi, Pakistan, Yemen, Bahrain, Libya, Iran, sama saja bukan caranya mereka menginjak rakyat?? Aku ingat juga bahwa Islam itu memang bahaya latent, sebab jika anak2 kita serius meneladani Muhammad, tidak ada garansi mereka gak jadi teroris. Sama dong dengan komunis, juga dengan rezim militer Soeharto ... Kemarin di Al Jazeera di acaranya Riz Khan ada wawancara dengan beberapa orang Pakistan, yang mengeluh, karena mereka makin islamisasi makin jahat pada perbedaan, makin kejam, makin tidak toleran. Ada UU menghukum semua yg menghujat Nabi Muhammad, disalah gunakan untuk menindas minoritas dan org2 kafir, bahkan ada gubernur ditembak mati oleh pengawalnya dan yg membunuh malah didukung. Sama di Indonesia, lihat tuh kasus Temanggung dan Ahmadiyyah. Kacau sekali sistem moral Islam itu. Cara cuci otaknya pun sama dengan komunis dan militer. ISLAM (YG SERIUS) == KOMUNIS == FASIS MILITER itu kesimpulannya. Aku bingung tapi gak bisa bantah. Apa ini semua DARI SUMBER YANG SAMA??? Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: IDEOLOGI2 YG MEMBINGUNGKAN (ISLAM, KOMUNIS, NASIONALIS MILITER)
Ya, ajaran Islam itu nggak beda kok dengan ideologi fascist atau Nasrani ingkar... Nabi anjing Muhammad yang diriwayatkan hadits dan sirah nabi itu sama-sama biadab dengn Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Hirohito, Bush Jr, Pol Pot itu.. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ndeboost rambitesemak@... wrote: ISLAM (YG SERIUS) == KOMUNIS == FASIS MILITER Bagaimana dengan Pauline Crosstian alias Pemimpin maupun umat Kristen? Apa Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin Islam, Hirohito, Bush Jr, Pol Pot Islam? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, pemerhatidunia pemerhatidunia@ wrote: ISLAM (YG SERIUS) == KOMUNIS == FASIS MILITER?? Orang dari FPI bilang mari kita kembali pada Islam yang murni, lalu ketahuan lah Islam yang murni itu yang tidak bisa menerima perbedaan dan gemar melakukan kekerasan. Contoh bagus komplit adalah MUI dan FPI. Tidak heran, wong dulunya Muhammad itu setelah diusir dari Mekkah lalu aksi balas dendam merampok membunuh dan menghancurkan, bahkan mengeliminasi orang yahudi nasrani dari Arab. Itulah the real ISLAM bagi kalian yang mau serius dg Muhammad. Lalu yg bikin aku pusing adalah teman ku seorang yg sangat senior mengatakan bahwa Islam Brotherhood yang di Mesir sukses mempelopori revolusi itu adalah sebenarnya KOMUNIS, karena mereka menggunakan modus atau metode dan tujuan yang sama. Demikian pula tokoh oposisi di Mesir itu adalah orang komunis. Dan seluruh Timur tengah guncang sebenarnya dibelakangnya karena gerakan komunis. Lho, kok bisa ?? aku penasaran. Ya, coba lihat, katanya. Caranya sama, tujuannya sama, memang mereka pintar membuat sistem IDEOLOGI. Satunya pakai nama agama, jihad di jalan Allah satunya pakai nama revolusi rakyat satunya lagi pakai nasionalis militer , jargonnya beda, padahal tujuan dan cara mereka menguasai dunia sama. Rakyat akan ditindas, dengan hukum komunis, hukum militer atau hukum syariat. Dalam tiga hukum itu, semuanya perlakuannya sama kejamnya. Lihat tuh cara komunis Russia dan China, bandingkan dengan penguasa Arab Saudi, Pakistan, Yemen, Bahrain, Libya, Iran, sama saja bukan caranya mereka menginjak rakyat?? Aku ingat juga bahwa Islam itu memang bahaya latent, sebab jika anak2 kita serius meneladani Muhammad, tidak ada garansi mereka gak jadi teroris. Sama dong dengan komunis, juga dengan rezim militer Soeharto ... Kemarin di Al Jazeera di acaranya Riz Khan ada wawancara dengan beberapa orang Pakistan, yang mengeluh, karena mereka makin islamisasi makin jahat pada perbedaan, makin kejam, makin tidak toleran. Ada UU menghukum semua yg menghujat Nabi Muhammad, disalah gunakan untuk menindas minoritas dan org2 kafir, bahkan ada gubernur ditembak mati oleh pengawalnya dan yg membunuh malah didukung. Sama di Indonesia, lihat tuh kasus Temanggung dan Ahmadiyyah. Kacau sekali sistem moral Islam itu. Cara cuci otaknya pun sama dengan komunis dan militer. ISLAM (YG SERIUS) == KOMUNIS == FASIS MILITER itu kesimpulannya. Aku bingung tapi gak bisa bantah. Apa ini semua DARI SUMBER YANG SAMA??? Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: Beda ayub yahya dan orang Islam seperti ndeboost nggak banyak kok..
Cara diskusi deboost yang dungu kayak babi itu itu nggak banyak beda dengan gaya diskusi ayub yahya yangjuga sama-sma dungu kayak babi: sama-sama suka OOT --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ndeboost rambitesemak@... wrote: Tensi Pak. Tensi. Ouik dulu Pak. Subuh memanggil --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Cara diskusi deboost yang dungu kayak babi itu itu nggak banyak beda dengan gaya diskusi ayub yahya yangjuga sama-sma dungu kayak babi: sama-sama suka OOT --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ndeboost rambitesemak@ wrote: Hihihi .. Pagi-pagi sdh obral. Ngantuk? Kenapa ga respon mengenai RNW? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Cara diskusi deboost yang dungu kayak babi itu itu nggak banyak beda dengan gaya diskusi ayub yahya yangjuga sama-sma dungu kayak babi: sama-sama suka OOT --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ndeboost rambitesemak@ wrote: Kan tiap orang punya style masing-masing? Sewot karena ga sesuai dg pola pikir nT? Ga lah Pak. Ga diskriminatif gitu. Katanya perhatian sama HAM. Gimana Pak proletaran di RNW? Mau ya Pak? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Cara diskusi deboost yang dungu kayak babi itu itu nggak banyak beda dengan gaya diskusi ayub yahya yangjuga sama-sma dungu kayak babi: sama-sama suka OOT --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ndeboost rambitesemak@ wrote: Ikuti RNW Pak? Yuk kita ramaikan kasih komen. (Setelah itu, kasih alamat situs yang dikomentari biar bisa jawab-berbalas). Iya Pak? nDeboost kadang penasaran, kok RNW banyak info ttg (pastur) gereja katulik tanpa pernah (CMIIW) memaparkan solah tingkah pendeta protestan. Pan Landa (CMIIW) banyakan protestan? Pendeta protestan baik-baik dan ga ada yang layak diekspose, gitu Pak? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Beda ayub yahya dan orang Islam seperti ndeboost nggak banyak kok.. Beda ayub yahya dan orang Islam seperti ndeboost nggak banyak kok.. Sama-sama dungu kayak babi, sama-sama pendusta dan sama-sama tukang fitnah. Isi otak mereka sama-sama busuknya kok. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: Banyak Orang Mulai Tak Idolakan Nabi Muhammad
Yusfiq kudu ngakoni bahwa jumlah bayi lahir yg dinamai Muhammad sampai detik ini tetap tertinggi ngalahkan nama Paul,John dsb.Berarti nama nabi saya itu amat disukai orang.Tapi wong Yusfiq yg berotak anjing itu gak punya anak makane yo gak ngerti.Baru saja cucu saya ke Jogja,itu namanya juga Hammad lucu sekali.Misalnya Bapaknya nanya itu mobil apa dik? Avanza.Wah Hammad pinter.Suatu saat ganti Hammad nanyak Bapaknya: itu suara apa Pak? Ooo itu pesawat.Dia bilang:Wah Bapak pinter.Jadi kamu rugi Fiq gak tahu rasanya punya cucu yg lucu.Sayang kemarin dah balik lagi ke JKT. Shalom, Tawangalun. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ndeboost rambitesemak@... wrote: Saat hampir wafat, Kanjeng Rasulullah saw teringat ummatnya karena beliau saw saat mi'raj diperlihatkan neraka oleh Allah swt. Ummatku, ummatku .. kata beliau saw Sebagaimana nabi- dan rasull-Allah, pbut, Muhammad saw termasuk di sini. Bersih dari dosa. Jadi di Islam ga ada yang namanya dosa waris. Sesungguhnya di Kristen, secara ga langsung, KATEBE, Tuhan sudah mengampuni dosa Adam-Hawa. Dan Yesus, KATBE berdosa. Nyatanya ga mau ngelempar si pelacur meski sebutir pasir. Kan Yesus sendiri yang nangtang para imam melempar? Banyak kisah yang menyatakan rasul pemaaf karena memang tugas beliau membawa kaum yang sesat. Kalau beliau pendendam, apa ada yang layak tiru dari beliau saw? Seorang pengemis (Yahudi) buta dan tua (di Madinah) salah satu kerjaannya setiap hari mencaci maki rasul saw (Kek Pak @Yusfik?). Namun dia ini (pengemis) ga tahu yang Muhammad saw setiap hari juga menyuapi dia, meski sambil dimaki. Setelah rasulullah wafat, tugas beliau saw diambil alih Khalifah Abu Bakar r.a. Dari caranya nyuap pengemis tahu bahwa yang nyuapin dia bukan yang biasanya sehingga akhirnya dia menanyakannya. Kamu ga bisa lagi memakinya karena yang menyuapimu setiap hari sudah wafat, demikian lk jawaban Abu Bakar. Gak kek kita-kita yg asal maki ternyata si Yahudi buta pengemis punya nurani. nDeboost juga ngerampog program (bukan beli). Yang buat program sama saja, mereka ga bayar royalti kepada penemu 0 (nol) maupun abjad. Gandhi (CMIIW) diskriminatif. nDeboost pernah baca yang dia ini mau nyium telapak kaki seorang cewe asal ga masuk Islam. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya ayubyahya@ wrote: gak ada klarifikasi dari Tawang, yang ada cuma peng-kultus-an, nabi Muhammad tuh gagah juga jadi statemen Hidayatulah bahwa : al-Quran hanya sebatas Nabi Muhammad ini di amin-kan Wang, kalo gitu nabi Muhammad kalah jauh ama Bill Gate Bill Gate kagak baca al-quran.. tapi microsoft nya banyak dipakai orang2 islam.. termasuk tawang piye Wang ? pernyataan lu nomer 1 - 3, mahatma ghandi juga bisa... yang nomer 4, bill gate jauh lebih gagah karena bill gate pakai kaca mata.. hehehe -On Fri, 2/18/11, Tawangalun tawangalun@ wrote: Â Al Quran itu isinya ada: 1. Ar Rahman jadi Rasulpun welas asih. 2. Al Kudus jadi Rasulpun bersih dari dosa. 3. Al Ghafar jadi Rasul juga Pemaaf. 4. Tapi juga Al Jabar jadi Rasul itu gagah juga. Shalom, Tawangalun. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, sikebenaran sikebenaran@ wrote: Betul betul betul kata Upin Upin :) --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya ayubyahya@ wrote: ini pernyataan terselubung dari Hidayatullah kalo sebenarnya Nabi Muhammad SAW adalah Allah swt. perhatikan kalimat dibawah pada bagian : ÃÂ Bahkan, dikatakan, akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an. katanya Al-Quran tuh turun dari langit melalui jibril di forward ke Nabi Muhammad SAW skarang Hidayatulah bilangnya akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an itu jelas niru orang keresten yang memang yesus di tuhan-kan, karena orang2 keresten menganggap 'yesus adalah firman yg hidup' oleh Hidayatulah sedikit dipelesetkan jadi: akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an dengan kata lain al-Quran tuh sebatas rasulullah itu sendiri... gitu kan yg dimaksud Hidayatulah ? --- On Fri, 2/18/11, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: ÃÂ Banyak Orang Mulai Tak Idolakan Nabi Muhammad Senin, 14 Februari 2011 Hidayatullah.com--Nabi Muhammad SAW memiliki akhlak yang mulia (Khuluqun `azim). Tak ada cela sedikitpun. Dan, tak ada orang yang mampu menandingi akhlaknya. Bahkan, dikatakan, akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an. ÃÂ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[proletar] Re: Banyak Orang Mulai Tak Idolakan Nabi Muhammad
Yusfiq kudu ngakoni bahwa jumlah bayi lahir yg dinamai Muhammad sampai detik ini tetap tertinggi ngalahkan nama Paul,John dsb.Berarti nama nabi saya itu amat disukai orang.Tapi wong Yusfiq yg berotak anjing itu gak punya anak makane yo gak ngerti.Baru saja cucu saya ke Jogja,itu namanya juga Hammad lucu sekali.Misalnya Bapaknya nanya itu mobil apa dik? Avanza.Wah Hammad pinter.Suatu saat ganti Hammad nanyak Bapaknya: itu suara apa Pak? Ooo itu pesawat.Dia bilang:Wah Bapak pinter.Jadi kamu rugi Fiq gak tahu rasanya punya cucu yg lucu.Sayang kemarin dah balik lagi ke JKT. Shalom, Tawangalun. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ndeboost rambitesemak@... wrote: Saat hampir wafat, Kanjeng Rasulullah saw teringat ummatnya karena beliau saw saat mi'raj diperlihatkan neraka oleh Allah swt. Ummatku, ummatku .. kata beliau saw Sebagaimana nabi- dan rasull-Allah, pbut, Muhammad saw termasuk di sini. Bersih dari dosa. Jadi di Islam ga ada yang namanya dosa waris. Sesungguhnya di Kristen, secara ga langsung, KATEBE, Tuhan sudah mengampuni dosa Adam-Hawa. Dan Yesus, KATBE berdosa. Nyatanya ga mau ngelempar si pelacur meski sebutir pasir. Kan Yesus sendiri yang nangtang para imam melempar? Banyak kisah yang menyatakan rasul pemaaf karena memang tugas beliau membawa kaum yang sesat. Kalau beliau pendendam, apa ada yang layak tiru dari beliau saw? Seorang pengemis (Yahudi) buta dan tua (di Madinah) salah satu kerjaannya setiap hari mencaci maki rasul saw (Kek Pak @Yusfik?). Namun dia ini (pengemis) ga tahu yang Muhammad saw setiap hari juga menyuapi dia, meski sambil dimaki. Setelah rasulullah wafat, tugas beliau saw diambil alih Khalifah Abu Bakar r.a. Dari caranya nyuap pengemis tahu bahwa yang nyuapin dia bukan yang biasanya sehingga akhirnya dia menanyakannya. Kamu ga bisa lagi memakinya karena yang menyuapimu setiap hari sudah wafat, demikian lk jawaban Abu Bakar. Gak kek kita-kita yg asal maki ternyata si Yahudi buta pengemis punya nurani. nDeboost juga ngerampog program (bukan beli). Yang buat program sama saja, mereka ga bayar royalti kepada penemu 0 (nol) maupun abjad. Gandhi (CMIIW) diskriminatif. nDeboost pernah baca yang dia ini mau nyium telapak kaki seorang cewe asal ga masuk Islam. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya ayubyahya@ wrote: gak ada klarifikasi dari Tawang, yang ada cuma peng-kultus-an, nabi Muhammad tuh gagah juga jadi statemen Hidayatulah bahwa : al-Quran hanya sebatas Nabi Muhammad ini di amin-kan Wang, kalo gitu nabi Muhammad kalah jauh ama Bill Gate Bill Gate kagak baca al-quran.. tapi microsoft nya banyak dipakai orang2 islam.. termasuk tawang piye Wang ? pernyataan lu nomer 1 - 3, mahatma ghandi juga bisa... yang nomer 4, bill gate jauh lebih gagah karena bill gate pakai kaca mata.. hehehe -On Fri, 2/18/11, Tawangalun tawangalun@ wrote: Â Al Quran itu isinya ada: 1. Ar Rahman jadi Rasulpun welas asih. 2. Al Kudus jadi Rasulpun bersih dari dosa. 3. Al Ghafar jadi Rasul juga Pemaaf. 4. Tapi juga Al Jabar jadi Rasul itu gagah juga. Shalom, Tawangalun. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, sikebenaran sikebenaran@ wrote: Betul betul betul kata Upin Upin :) --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya ayubyahya@ wrote: ini pernyataan terselubung dari Hidayatullah kalo sebenarnya Nabi Muhammad SAW adalah Allah swt. perhatikan kalimat dibawah pada bagian : ÃÂ Bahkan, dikatakan, akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an. katanya Al-Quran tuh turun dari langit melalui jibril di forward ke Nabi Muhammad SAW skarang Hidayatulah bilangnya akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an itu jelas niru orang keresten yang memang yesus di tuhan-kan, karena orang2 keresten menganggap 'yesus adalah firman yg hidup' oleh Hidayatulah sedikit dipelesetkan jadi: akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an dengan kata lain al-Quran tuh sebatas rasulullah itu sendiri... gitu kan yg dimaksud Hidayatulah ? --- On Fri, 2/18/11, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: ÃÂ Banyak Orang Mulai Tak Idolakan Nabi Muhammad Senin, 14 Februari 2011 Hidayatullah.com--Nabi Muhammad SAW memiliki akhlak yang mulia (Khuluqun `azim). Tak ada cela sedikitpun. Dan, tak ada orang yang mampu menandingi akhlaknya. Bahkan, dikatakan, akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an. ÃÂ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[proletar] Re: IDEOLOGI2 YG MEMBINGUNGKAN (ISLAM, KOMUNIS, NASIONALIS MILITER)
Gereja katolik Roma telah mengakui kesalahan yang mereka lakukan sejakdua ribu tahun yang lalu dan telah minta ampun. Sekarang baik Vatikan maupun gereja anggota WCC menolak kekerasan, menolak hukuman mati dan menolak perang. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, pemerhatidunia pemerhatidunia@... wrote: Pemimpin Kristen terutama katolik abad pertengahan penyembang Bunda Maria itu memang sama juga dengan fasis. Ratusan ribu mereka bantai. Kristen, Budha dan Hindu yg sekarang baik2 aja. Se aneh atau se sesat apapun kepercayaan mereka, tidak ada kudengar lagi mereka saling sesar menyesatkan apalagi bunuh membunuh. Tetapi bandingkan dengan kenyataan Islam yg marak sekarang. Maksudku, ada sesuatu kekuatan yang mengilhami dan menyusupi ideologi2 itu sehingga mereka membunuh manusia, mencari kekuasaan, menghalalkan semua cara. Semua agama dan ideologi tanpa kecuali dimasuki. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ndeboost rambitesemak@ wrote: ISLAM (YG SERIUS) == KOMUNIS == FASIS MILITER Bagaimana dengan Pauline Crosstian alias Pemimpin maupun umat Kristen? Apa Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin Islam, Hirohito, Bush Jr, Pol Pot Islam? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, pemerhatidunia pemerhatidunia@ wrote: ISLAM (YG SERIUS) == KOMUNIS == FASIS MILITER?? Orang dari FPI bilang mari kita kembali pada Islam yang murni, lalu ketahuan lah Islam yang murni itu yang tidak bisa menerima perbedaan dan gemar melakukan kekerasan. Contoh bagus komplit adalah MUI dan FPI. Tidak heran, wong dulunya Muhammad itu setelah diusir dari Mekkah lalu aksi balas dendam merampok membunuh dan menghancurkan, bahkan mengeliminasi orang yahudi nasrani dari Arab. Itulah the real ISLAM bagi kalian yang mau serius dg Muhammad. Lalu yg bikin aku pusing adalah teman ku seorang yg sangat senior mengatakan bahwa Islam Brotherhood yang di Mesir sukses mempelopori revolusi itu adalah sebenarnya KOMUNIS, karena mereka menggunakan modus atau metode dan tujuan yang sama. Demikian pula tokoh oposisi di Mesir itu adalah orang komunis. Dan seluruh Timur tengah guncang sebenarnya dibelakangnya karena gerakan komunis. Lho, kok bisa ?? aku penasaran. Ya, coba lihat, katanya. Caranya sama, tujuannya sama, memang mereka pintar membuat sistem IDEOLOGI. Satunya pakai nama agama, jihad di jalan Allah satunya pakai nama revolusi rakyat satunya lagi pakai nasionalis militer , jargonnya beda, padahal tujuan dan cara mereka menguasai dunia sama. Rakyat akan ditindas, dengan hukum komunis, hukum militer atau hukum syariat. Dalam tiga hukum itu, semuanya perlakuannya sama kejamnya. Lihat tuh cara komunis Russia dan China, bandingkan dengan penguasa Arab Saudi, Pakistan, Yemen, Bahrain, Libya, Iran, sama saja bukan caranya mereka menginjak rakyat?? Aku ingat juga bahwa Islam itu memang bahaya latent, sebab jika anak2 kita serius meneladani Muhammad, tidak ada garansi mereka gak jadi teroris. Sama dong dengan komunis, juga dengan rezim militer Soeharto ... Kemarin di Al Jazeera di acaranya Riz Khan ada wawancara dengan beberapa orang Pakistan, yang mengeluh, karena mereka makin islamisasi makin jahat pada perbedaan, makin kejam, makin tidak toleran. Ada UU menghukum semua yg menghujat Nabi Muhammad, disalah gunakan untuk menindas minoritas dan org2 kafir, bahkan ada gubernur ditembak mati oleh pengawalnya dan yg membunuh malah didukung. Sama di Indonesia, lihat tuh kasus Temanggung dan Ahmadiyyah. Kacau sekali sistem moral Islam itu. Cara cuci otaknya pun sama dengan komunis dan militer. ISLAM (YG SERIUS) == KOMUNIS == FASIS MILITER itu kesimpulannya. Aku bingung tapi gak bisa bantah. Apa ini semua DARI SUMBER YANG SAMA??? Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: Banyak Orang Mulai Tak Idolakan Nabi Muhammad
Orang islam itu beranak pinak kayak babi dan suka menamai anaknya dengan Muhammad. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Tawangalun tawangalun@... wrote: Yusfiq kudu ngakoni bahwa jumlah bayi lahir yg dinamai Muhammad sampai detik ini tetap tertinggi ngalahkan nama Paul,John dsb.Berarti nama nabi saya itu amat disukai orang.Tapi wong Yusfiq yg berotak anjing itu gak punya anak makane yo gak ngerti.Baru saja cucu saya ke Jogja,itu namanya juga Hammad lucu sekali.Misalnya Bapaknya nanya itu mobil apa dik? Avanza.Wah Hammad pinter.Suatu saat ganti Hammad nanyak Bapaknya: itu suara apa Pak? Ooo itu pesawat.Dia bilang:Wah Bapak pinter.Jadi kamu rugi Fiq gak tahu rasanya punya cucu yg lucu.Sayang kemarin dah balik lagi ke JKT. Shalom, Tawangalun. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ndeboost rambitesemak@ wrote: Saat hampir wafat, Kanjeng Rasulullah saw teringat ummatnya karena beliau saw saat mi'raj diperlihatkan neraka oleh Allah swt. Ummatku, ummatku .. kata beliau saw Sebagaimana nabi- dan rasull-Allah, pbut, Muhammad saw termasuk di sini. Bersih dari dosa. Jadi di Islam ga ada yang namanya dosa waris. Sesungguhnya di Kristen, secara ga langsung, KATEBE, Tuhan sudah mengampuni dosa Adam-Hawa. Dan Yesus, KATBE berdosa. Nyatanya ga mau ngelempar si pelacur meski sebutir pasir. Kan Yesus sendiri yang nangtang para imam melempar? Banyak kisah yang menyatakan rasul pemaaf karena memang tugas beliau membawa kaum yang sesat. Kalau beliau pendendam, apa ada yang layak tiru dari beliau saw? Seorang pengemis (Yahudi) buta dan tua (di Madinah) salah satu kerjaannya setiap hari mencaci maki rasul saw (Kek Pak @Yusfik?). Namun dia ini (pengemis) ga tahu yang Muhammad saw setiap hari juga menyuapi dia, meski sambil dimaki. Setelah rasulullah wafat, tugas beliau saw diambil alih Khalifah Abu Bakar r.a. Dari caranya nyuap pengemis tahu bahwa yang nyuapin dia bukan yang biasanya sehingga akhirnya dia menanyakannya. Kamu ga bisa lagi memakinya karena yang menyuapimu setiap hari sudah wafat, demikian lk jawaban Abu Bakar. Gak kek kita-kita yg asal maki ternyata si Yahudi buta pengemis punya nurani. nDeboost juga ngerampog program (bukan beli). Yang buat program sama saja, mereka ga bayar royalti kepada penemu 0 (nol) maupun abjad. Gandhi (CMIIW) diskriminatif. nDeboost pernah baca yang dia ini mau nyium telapak kaki seorang cewe asal ga masuk Islam. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya ayubyahya@ wrote: gak ada klarifikasi dari Tawang, yang ada cuma peng-kultus-an, nabi Muhammad tuh gagah juga jadi statemen Hidayatulah bahwa : al-Quran hanya sebatas Nabi Muhammad ini di amin-kan Wang, kalo gitu nabi Muhammad kalah jauh ama Bill Gate Bill Gate kagak baca al-quran.. tapi microsoft nya banyak dipakai orang2 islam.. termasuk tawang piye Wang ? pernyataan lu nomer 1 - 3, mahatma ghandi juga bisa... yang nomer 4, bill gate jauh lebih gagah karena bill gate pakai kaca mata.. hehehe -On Fri, 2/18/11, Tawangalun tawangalun@ wrote: Â Al Quran itu isinya ada: 1. Ar Rahman jadi Rasulpun welas asih. 2. Al Kudus jadi Rasulpun bersih dari dosa. 3. Al Ghafar jadi Rasul juga Pemaaf. 4. Tapi juga Al Jabar jadi Rasul itu gagah juga. Shalom, Tawangalun. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, sikebenaran sikebenaran@ wrote: Betul betul betul kata Upin Upin :) --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya ayubyahya@ wrote: ini pernyataan terselubung dari Hidayatullah kalo sebenarnya Nabi Muhammad SAW adalah Allah swt. perhatikan kalimat dibawah pada bagian : ÃÂ Bahkan, dikatakan, akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an. katanya Al-Quran tuh turun dari langit melalui jibril di forward ke Nabi Muhammad SAW skarang Hidayatulah bilangnya akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an itu jelas niru orang keresten yang memang yesus di tuhan-kan, karena orang2 keresten menganggap 'yesus adalah firman yg hidup' oleh Hidayatulah sedikit dipelesetkan jadi: akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an dengan kata lain al-Quran tuh sebatas rasulullah itu sendiri... gitu kan yg dimaksud Hidayatulah ? --- On Fri, 2/18/11, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: ÃÂ Banyak Orang Mulai Tak Idolakan Nabi Muhammad Senin, 14 Februari 2011 Hidayatullah.com--Nabi Muhammad SAW memiliki akhlak yang mulia (Khuluqun `azim). Tak ada cela sedikitpun. Dan, tak ada orang yang mampu menandingi akhlaknya. Bahkan, dikatakan, akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an. ÃÂ
[proletar] Islam, agama anjing yang telah merusak otak Dipo, johny-indon,
Islam, agama anjing yang telah merusak otak Dipo, johny-indon, ndeboost, PAREWA PAREWA, Pramana Yudha, rezameutia, Roman Proteus, Tawang dll. yang memang dungu-dungu kayak anjing.. Mereka jadi pendusta dan tukang fitnah... Seperti ayub yahya dan Hasan Basri... Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: Beda ayub yahya dan orang Islam seperti ndeboost nggak banyak kok..
Hihihi .. Pagi-pagi sdh obral. Ngantuk? Kenapa ga respon mengenai RNW? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@... wrote: Cara diskusi deboost yang dungu kayak babi itu itu nggak banyak beda dengan gaya diskusi ayub yahya yangjuga sama-sma dungu kayak babi: sama-sama suka OOT --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ndeboost rambitesemak@ wrote: Kan tiap orang punya style masing-masing? Sewot karena ga sesuai dg pola pikir nT? Ga lah Pak. Ga diskriminatif gitu. Katanya perhatian sama HAM. Gimana Pak proletaran di RNW? Mau ya Pak? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Cara diskusi deboost yang dungu kayak babi itu itu nggak banyak beda dengan gaya diskusi ayub yahya yangjuga sama-sma dungu kayak babi: sama-sama suka OOT --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ndeboost rambitesemak@ wrote: Ikuti RNW Pak? Yuk kita ramaikan kasih komen. (Setelah itu, kasih alamat situs yang dikomentari biar bisa jawab-berbalas). Iya Pak? nDeboost kadang penasaran, kok RNW banyak info ttg (pastur) gereja katulik tanpa pernah (CMIIW) memaparkan solah tingkah pendeta protestan. Pan Landa (CMIIW) banyakan protestan? Pendeta protestan baik-baik dan ga ada yang layak diekspose, gitu Pak? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Beda ayub yahya dan orang Islam seperti ndeboost nggak banyak kok.. Beda ayub yahya dan orang Islam seperti ndeboost nggak banyak kok.. Sama-sama dungu kayak babi, sama-sama pendusta dan sama-sama tukang fitnah. Isi otak mereka sama-sama busuknya kok. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] IDEOLOGI2 YG MEMBINGUNGKAN (ISLAM, KOMUNIS, NASIONALIS MILITER)
ISLAM (YG SERIUS) == KOMUNIS == FASIS MILITER?? Orang dari FPI bilang mari kita kembali pada Islam yang murni, lalu ketahuan lah Islam yang murni itu yang tidak bisa menerima perbedaan dan gemar melakukan kekerasan. Contoh bagus komplit adalah MUI dan FPI. Tidak heran, wong dulunya Muhammad itu setelah diusir dari Mekkah lalu aksi balas dendam merampok membunuh dan menghancurkan, bahkan mengeliminasi orang yahudi nasrani dari Arab. Itulah the real ISLAM bagi kalian yang mau serius dg Muhammad. Lalu yg bikin aku pusing adalah teman ku seorang yg sangat senior mengatakan bahwa Islam Brotherhood yang di Mesir sukses mempelopori revolusi itu adalah sebenarnya KOMUNIS, karena mereka menggunakan modus atau metode dan tujuan yang sama. Demikian pula tokoh oposisi di Mesir itu adalah orang komunis. Dan seluruh Timur tengah guncang sebenarnya dibelakangnya karena gerakan komunis. Lho, kok bisa ?? aku penasaran. Ya, coba lihat, katanya. Caranya sama, tujuannya sama, memang mereka pintar membuat sistem IDEOLOGI. Satunya pakai nama agama, jihad di jalan Allah satunya pakai nama revolusi rakyat satunya lagi pakai nasionalis militer , jargonnya beda, padahal tujuan dan cara mereka menguasai dunia sama. Rakyat akan ditindas, dengan hukum komunis, hukum militer atau hukum syariat. Dalam tiga hukum itu, semuanya perlakuannya sama kejamnya. Lihat tuh cara komunis Russia dan China, bandingkan dengan penguasa Arab Saudi, Pakistan, Yemen, Bahrain, Libya, Iran, sama saja bukan caranya mereka menginjak rakyat?? Aku ingat juga bahwa Islam itu memang bahaya latent, sebab jika anak2 kita serius meneladani Muhammad, tidak ada garansi mereka gak jadi teroris. Sama dong dengan komunis, juga dengan rezim militer Soeharto ... Kemarin di Al Jazeera di acaranya Riz Khan ada wawancara dengan beberapa orang Pakistan, yang mengeluh, karena mereka makin islamisasi makin jahat pada perbedaan, makin kejam, makin tidak toleran. Ada UU menghukum semua yg menghujat Nabi Muhammad, disalah gunakan untuk menindas minoritas dan org2 kafir, bahkan ada gubernur ditembak mati oleh pengawalnya dan yg membunuh malah didukung. Sama di Indonesia, lihat tuh kasus Temanggung dan Ahmadiyyah. Kacau sekali sistem moral Islam itu. Cara cuci otaknya pun sama dengan komunis dan militer. ISLAM (YG SERIUS) == KOMUNIS == FASIS MILITER itu kesimpulannya. Aku bingung tapi gak bisa bantah. Apa ini semua DARI SUMBER YANG SAMA??? Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] great pretender dan sebuah kenyataan, antara lain sudah
great pretender dan sebuah kenyataan, antara lain sudah menunjukkan bahwa sesuai dengan bunyi QS 4:82 maka jelas bahwa buku taik anjing al-Mushaf itu TIDAK berisi wahyu Allah - yang nota bene tidak berbukti ada itu. Tapi orang Islam yang berotak babi dan tidak punya harga diri seperti Dipo, johny-indon, ndeboost, PAREWA PAREWA, rezameutia, Roman Proteus, Tawang dll. tetap saja menjadikan buku taik anjing susunan orang Arab primitif itu sebagai kitab suci. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: Banyak Orang Mulai Tak Idolakan Nabi Muhammad
Njenengan wong Jowo sebaiknya lebih belajar kejawen aja Pak, Pancasila terbukti mempersatukan Indonesia. Coba kalau wong Jowo ilang Jowone, lebih fanatik ke Kristen atau Islam, kasus Temanggung kejadian dimana-mana, lalu orang non Jawa non Islam Indonesia Timur dan sebagian Kalimantan akan minta pisah dari Indonesia. Hancur sudah kepemimpinan Jawa pada dekade ini, sudah penuh korupsi, makin tidak toleran lagi... Orang luar Jawa itu hormat Jawa karena bisa menerima perbedaan, tapi sekarang coba lihat tu MUI dan org2 Jawa yg dikota2. NU yg masih berusaha melawan pengaruh fanatisme ini tapi kok susah sekali ya.. In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Tawangalun tawangalun@... wrote: Yusfiq kudu ngakoni bahwa jumlah bayi lahir yg dinamai Muhammad sampai detik ini tetap tertinggi ngalahkan nama Paul,John dsb.Berarti nama nabi saya itu amat disukai orang.Tapi wong Yusfiq yg berotak anjing itu gak punya anak makane yo gak ngerti.Baru saja cucu saya ke Jogja,itu namanya juga Hammad lucu sekali.Misalnya Bapaknya nanya itu mobil apa dik? Avanza.Wah Hammad pinter.Suatu saat ganti Hammad nanyak Bapaknya: itu suara apa Pak? Ooo itu pesawat.Dia bilang:Wah Bapak pinter.Jadi kamu rugi Fiq gak tahu rasanya punya cucu yg lucu.Sayang kemarin dah balik lagi ke JKT. Shalom, Tawangalun. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ndeboost rambitesemak@ wrote: Saat hampir wafat, Kanjeng Rasulullah saw teringat ummatnya karena beliau saw saat mi'raj diperlihatkan neraka oleh Allah swt. Ummatku, ummatku .. kata beliau saw Sebagaimana nabi- dan rasull-Allah, pbut, Muhammad saw termasuk di sini. Bersih dari dosa. Jadi di Islam ga ada yang namanya dosa waris. Sesungguhnya di Kristen, secara ga langsung, KATEBE, Tuhan sudah mengampuni dosa Adam-Hawa. Dan Yesus, KATBE berdosa. Nyatanya ga mau ngelempar si pelacur meski sebutir pasir. Kan Yesus sendiri yang nangtang para imam melempar? Banyak kisah yang menyatakan rasul pemaaf karena memang tugas beliau membawa kaum yang sesat. Kalau beliau pendendam, apa ada yang layak tiru dari beliau saw? Seorang pengemis (Yahudi) buta dan tua (di Madinah) salah satu kerjaannya setiap hari mencaci maki rasul saw (Kek Pak @Yusfik?). Namun dia ini (pengemis) ga tahu yang Muhammad saw setiap hari juga menyuapi dia, meski sambil dimaki. Setelah rasulullah wafat, tugas beliau saw diambil alih Khalifah Abu Bakar r.a. Dari caranya nyuap pengemis tahu bahwa yang nyuapin dia bukan yang biasanya sehingga akhirnya dia menanyakannya. Kamu ga bisa lagi memakinya karena yang menyuapimu setiap hari sudah wafat, demikian lk jawaban Abu Bakar. Gak kek kita-kita yg asal maki ternyata si Yahudi buta pengemis punya nurani. nDeboost juga ngerampog program (bukan beli). Yang buat program sama saja, mereka ga bayar royalti kepada penemu 0 (nol) maupun abjad. Gandhi (CMIIW) diskriminatif. nDeboost pernah baca yang dia ini mau nyium telapak kaki seorang cewe asal ga masuk Islam. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya ayubyahya@ wrote: gak ada klarifikasi dari Tawang, yang ada cuma peng-kultus-an, nabi Muhammad tuh gagah juga jadi statemen Hidayatulah bahwa : al-Quran hanya sebatas Nabi Muhammad ini di amin-kan Wang, kalo gitu nabi Muhammad kalah jauh ama Bill Gate Bill Gate kagak baca al-quran.. tapi microsoft nya banyak dipakai orang2 islam.. termasuk tawang piye Wang ? pernyataan lu nomer 1 - 3, mahatma ghandi juga bisa... yang nomer 4, bill gate jauh lebih gagah karena bill gate pakai kaca mata.. hehehe -On Fri, 2/18/11, Tawangalun tawangalun@ wrote: Â Al Quran itu isinya ada: 1. Ar Rahman jadi Rasulpun welas asih. 2. Al Kudus jadi Rasulpun bersih dari dosa. 3. Al Ghafar jadi Rasul juga Pemaaf. 4. Tapi juga Al Jabar jadi Rasul itu gagah juga. Shalom, Tawangalun. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, sikebenaran sikebenaran@ wrote: Betul betul betul kata Upin Upin :) --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya ayubyahya@ wrote: ini pernyataan terselubung dari Hidayatullah kalo sebenarnya Nabi Muhammad SAW adalah Allah swt. perhatikan kalimat dibawah pada bagian : ÃÂ Bahkan, dikatakan, akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an. katanya Al-Quran tuh turun dari langit melalui jibril di forward ke Nabi Muhammad SAW skarang Hidayatulah bilangnya akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an itu jelas niru orang keresten yang memang yesus di tuhan-kan, karena orang2 keresten menganggap 'yesus adalah firman yg hidup' oleh Hidayatulah sedikit dipelesetkan jadi: akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an dengan kata lain al-Quran tuh sebatas rasulullah itu sendiri... gitu kan yg dimaksud Hidayatulah ?
[proletar] Tawang nggak berani lagi ngomong tentang angka 19 atau gunung pasak bumi..
Tawang nggak berani lagi ngomong tentang angka 19 atau gunung pasak bumi.. Angka 19 ternyata cuman tahayul numerologi doang.. Sedangkan omongan buku taik anjing al-Mushaf susunan orang Arab primitif yang bilang gunung itu pasak bumi ternyata ya cuman omong kosong doang... mi Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: Tawang nggak berani lagi ngomong tentang angka 19 atau gunung pasak bumi..
Tak tunggu lho Paris-nya, ke Pak Umar Said. Atau ga mau lagi ngapdet nulis proposal ybs? Hihihi . Omdo. . --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@... wrote: Tawang nggak berani lagi ngomong tentang angka 19 atau gunung pasak bumi.. Angka 19 ternyata cuman tahayul numerologi doang.. Sedangkan omongan buku taik anjing al-Mushaf susunan orang Arab primitif yang bilang gunung itu pasak bumi ternyata ya cuman omong kosong doang... mi Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: Banyak Orang Mulai Tak Idolakan Nabi Muhammad
Belum ada satupun orang didunia ini kecuali Nabi saya yang omongannya dan tindakannya ditulis dalam 6000 hadis.Mbok Presiden AS yg sekretarisnya seabrek gak ninggali hadis(gak bisa kali) akan omongannya atau tindakannya.Padahal Buchary itu wong Ubzekistan kok gelem ngumpulin ucapan2 Nabi yg wong Arab tanpa dibayar.Suatu saat Microsoft akan menjadi usang but Hadis.Coba DOS operating system kan sekarang dah usang.La hadis itu dah 14 abad masih dipakai terus. Oh hiya kok jarang bayi lahir yg dinamai Bill Gates opo kurang keren? Shalom, Tawangalun. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya ayubyahya@... wrote: gak ada klarifikasi dari Tawang, yang ada cuma peng-kultus-an, nabi Muhammad tuh gagah juga jadi statemen Hidayatulah bahwa : al-Quran hanya sebatas Nabi Muhammad ini di amin-kan Wang, kalo gitu nabi Muhammad kalah jauh ama Bill Gate Bill Gate kagak baca al-quran.. tapi microsoft nya banyak dipakai orang2 islam.. termasuk tawang piye Wang ? pernyataan lu nomer 1 - 3, mahatma ghandi juga bisa... yang nomer 4, bill gate jauh lebih gagah karena bill gate pakai kaca mata.. hehehe -On Fri, 2/18/11, Tawangalun tawangalun@... wrote: Â Al Quran itu isinya ada: 1. Ar Rahman jadi Rasulpun welas asih. 2. Al Kudus jadi Rasulpun bersih dari dosa. 3. Al Ghafar jadi Rasul juga Pemaaf. 4. Tapi juga Al Jabar jadi Rasul itu gagah juga. Shalom, Tawangalun. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, sikebenaran sikebenaran@ wrote: Betul betul betul kata Upin Upin :) --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya ayubyahya@ wrote: ini pernyataan terselubung dari Hidayatullah kalo sebenarnya Nabi Muhammad SAW adalah Allah swt. perhatikan kalimat dibawah pada bagian : ÃÂ Bahkan, dikatakan, akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an. katanya Al-Quran tuh turun dari langit melalui jibril di forward ke Nabi Muhammad SAW skarang Hidayatulah bilangnya akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an itu jelas niru orang keresten yang memang yesus di tuhan-kan, karena orang2 keresten menganggap 'yesus adalah firman yg hidup' oleh Hidayatulah sedikit dipelesetkan jadi: akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an dengan kata lain al-Quran tuh sebatas rasulullah itu sendiri... gitu kan yg dimaksud Hidayatulah ? --- On Fri, 2/18/11, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: ÃÂ Banyak Orang Mulai Tak Idolakan Nabi Muhammad Senin, 14 Februari 2011 Hidayatullah.com--Nabi Muhammad SAW memiliki akhlak yang mulia (Khuluqun `azim). Tak ada cela sedikitpun. Dan, tak ada orang yang mampu menandingi akhlaknya. Bahkan, dikatakan, akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an. ÃÂ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: Banyak Orang Mulai Tak Idolakan Nabi Muhammad
Belum ada satupun orang didunia ini kecuali Nabi saya yang omongannya dan tindakannya ditulis dalam 6000 hadis.Mbok Presiden AS yg sekretarisnya seabrek gak ninggali hadis(gak bisa kali) akan omongannya atau tindakannya.Padahal Buchary itu wong Ubzekistan kok gelem ngumpulin ucapan2 Nabi yg wong Arab tanpa dibayar.Suatu saat Microsoft akan menjadi usang but Hadis.Coba DOS operating system kan sekarang dah usang.La hadis itu dah 14 abad masih dipakai terus. Oh hiya kok jarang bayi lahir yg dinamai Bill Gates opo kurang keren? Shalom, Tawangalun. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya ayubyahya@... wrote: gak ada klarifikasi dari Tawang, yang ada cuma peng-kultus-an, nabi Muhammad tuh gagah juga jadi statemen Hidayatulah bahwa : al-Quran hanya sebatas Nabi Muhammad ini di amin-kan Wang, kalo gitu nabi Muhammad kalah jauh ama Bill Gate Bill Gate kagak baca al-quran.. tapi microsoft nya banyak dipakai orang2 islam.. termasuk tawang piye Wang ? pernyataan lu nomer 1 - 3, mahatma ghandi juga bisa... yang nomer 4, bill gate jauh lebih gagah karena bill gate pakai kaca mata.. hehehe -On Fri, 2/18/11, Tawangalun tawangalun@... wrote: Â Al Quran itu isinya ada: 1. Ar Rahman jadi Rasulpun welas asih. 2. Al Kudus jadi Rasulpun bersih dari dosa. 3. Al Ghafar jadi Rasul juga Pemaaf. 4. Tapi juga Al Jabar jadi Rasul itu gagah juga. Shalom, Tawangalun. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, sikebenaran sikebenaran@ wrote: Betul betul betul kata Upin Upin :) --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya ayubyahya@ wrote: ini pernyataan terselubung dari Hidayatullah kalo sebenarnya Nabi Muhammad SAW adalah Allah swt. perhatikan kalimat dibawah pada bagian : ÃÂ Bahkan, dikatakan, akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an. katanya Al-Quran tuh turun dari langit melalui jibril di forward ke Nabi Muhammad SAW skarang Hidayatulah bilangnya akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an itu jelas niru orang keresten yang memang yesus di tuhan-kan, karena orang2 keresten menganggap 'yesus adalah firman yg hidup' oleh Hidayatulah sedikit dipelesetkan jadi: akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an dengan kata lain al-Quran tuh sebatas rasulullah itu sendiri... gitu kan yg dimaksud Hidayatulah ? --- On Fri, 2/18/11, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: ÃÂ Banyak Orang Mulai Tak Idolakan Nabi Muhammad Senin, 14 Februari 2011 Hidayatullah.com--Nabi Muhammad SAW memiliki akhlak yang mulia (Khuluqun `azim). Tak ada cela sedikitpun. Dan, tak ada orang yang mampu menandingi akhlaknya. Bahkan, dikatakan, akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an. ÃÂ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: Soekarno van Mook..
Londo itu tetep aja jahat Fiq,wong tentara sekutu mau melucuti tentara Jepang kok dia membonceng.Yo jelas dilawan oleh pejuang Republik seperti Bung Tomo.Tentara Londo juga salah kok nyerang Jogja lalu menangkap Bung Karna.Lalu dia masih melik Irian barat ketika KMB,masih nyuruh RI mbayar utang.Utang apaan wong dia sudah njarah 350 th di RI kok kami disuruh mbayar utang katanya. Kerdom ki, Tawangalun. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@... wrote: Yang jangan kita lupakan adalah bahwa Soekarno dan nasionalis fascist yang telah menggadaikan seperempat juta romusha kepada fascist Jepang itu bukan satu-satunya orang Indonesia yang menginginkan berakhirnya penjajahan Belanda di Indonesia: van Mook, yang lahir di Semarang, jangan kita lupa, adalah juga orang Indonesia - seperti juga de Klerk adalah orang Afrika Selatan - juga sama-sama menginginkan Indonesia merdeka bersama-sama teman-temannnya anggota perkumpulan De Stuw. Sekali lagi jangan kita lupa, van Mook telah memakai kata Indonesia ketika Yamin dan nasionalis fascist yang lain masih ngomong tentang Jong Sumatra, Jong Java, Jong Ambon dll. Sayang, sungguh sayang buat orang Indonesia bahwa yang membawa Indonesia kealam merdeka adalah anjing fascist Jepang Soekarno dkk. yang adalah nasionalis fascist rasialis penjual seperempat juta romusha yang mati bergelimpangan di kamp kerja paksa didera dan disiksa oleh serdadu fascist Jepang atau kelaparan dan kena berbagai macam penyakit. Coba bayangkan sejenak: bila van Mook dan kawan-kawannnya yang membawa Indonesia ke alam merdeka maka kita tidak akan mengalami zaman diktatur Orde Lama, Indonesia tidak akan menganal Ekonomi Terpimpin yang memporak porandakan landasan ekonomi Indonesia; dan Indonesia masih ada orang berkulit putih dan orang berdarah campuran yang punya keahlian; Indonesia, yang tetap berhubungan dengan Belanda dalam Commonwealth seperti diinginkan oleh van Mook dll., akan bisa belajar dan menyauk ilham dari kemajuan-demi kemajuan yang dicapai oleh Belanda, seperti jamian sosial yang aduhai, jaminan kesehatan yagn aduhai (yang sebelum perang dunia ke II juga tidak ada di negeri Belanda). Sekedar untuk anda ketahui, sekarang ini jaminan kesehatan dan jaminan sosial di Belanda termasuk yang terbaik di dunia. Bayangkan: gelandangan aja dapat tunjangan tetap sebanyak kira-kira 700 euro tiap bulan ditambah tunjangan untuk pembayar premi asuransi kesehatan dari Jawatan Pajak dan...uang untuk pakansi sekali setahun dari Bank Sosial. Artinya, gelandangan saja juga dapat perlindungan dan rawatan kesehtan yang kwalitasnya termasuk yang terbaik diseluruh dunia. Dan kalau mereka mau punya rumah kotapraja menyediakn rumah yang layak ditinggali dan dia akan dapat tunjangan untuk menyewa rumah dari Jawatan Pajak. (Perlu saya tambahkan bahwa gelandangan di negeri Belanda biasanya adalah orang yang MENOLAK untuk punya rumah dan bukan orang yang tidak punya uang untuk menyewa rumah, karena orang yang penghasilannnya tidak cukup dapat subsidi dari Jawatan Pajak ). Sekali lagi: karena Indonesia diproklamirkan dan kemudian dipimpin oleh bangsat fascist Jepang Soekarno dkk. itu makanya Indonesia itu tetap dedel duwel setelah lebihdari enam puluh tahun merdeka. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: Tawang nggak berani lagi ngomong tentang angka 19 atau gunung pasak bumi..
Bukan soal gak berani saya itu bukan kayak lo yg seperti kaset rusak,gak malu ngeluarin tulisan yg itu2 aja,coba deh belajar nulis yg mutu deh. Shalom, Tawangalun. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@... wrote: Tawang nggak berani lagi ngomong tentang angka 19 atau gunung pasak bumi.. Angka 19 ternyata cuman tahayul numerologi doang.. Sedangkan omongan buku taik anjing al-Mushaf susunan orang Arab primitif yang bilang gunung itu pasak bumi ternyata ya cuman omong kosong doang... mi Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: Banyak Orang Mulai Tak Idolakan Nabi Muhammad
Sinau kejawen? Mangga, sampean ngerumiyini, kula Islam ke mawon. (Hweleh, medhok). ...Hancur sudah kepemimpinan Jawa pada dekade ini, sudah penuh korupsi, makin tidak toleran lagi... Kwkwkwk Korupsi: nT hitung saja nama-nama Jawa yang terlibat kasus skandal korupsi besar akhir-akhir ini. Yang jelas, Jawa atau bukan, mereka ini ga punya nurani. Maaf, Islam atau bukan, mereka ini dimata nDeboost adalah bajingan perampok laknat. Kalau terorist, narkoba, aids paling yang mati 100, kalau korupsi 1 generasi teraniaya. Presiden: Keknya BJHabibi bisa ngontrol rupiah yang amburadul, mendeklarasikan kebebasan pers dan menerima caci-maki (sebagian) rakyatnya dg penuh tanggung jawab. Coba nT ingat-ingat, adakah hari tanpa fordem saat beliau presiden? Namun last but least, Andi Malarangeng yang asli bukan Jawa bilangnya orang Makasar (belum) layak presiden. Hwa hwe ha ha ha ha.. nDeboost senang ndenger ceramah Ustdz Anton Medan yang China by birth. Kemana ya beliau sekarang jarang muncul? Namun nT, gak salah. Imajinasi nT (keknya) diskriminatif, banget malah. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, pemerhatidunia pemerhatidunia@... wrote: Njenengan wong Jowo sebaiknya lebih belajar kejawen aja Pak, Pancasila terbukti mempersatukan Indonesia. Coba kalau wong Jowo ilang Jowone, lebih fanatik ke Kristen atau Islam, kasus Temanggung kejadian dimana-mana, lalu orang non Jawa non Islam Indonesia Timur dan sebagian Kalimantan akan minta pisah dari Indonesia. Hancur sudah kepemimpinan Jawa pada dekade ini, sudah penuh korupsi, makin tidak toleran lagi... Orang luar Jawa itu hormat Jawa karena bisa menerima perbedaan, tapi sekarang coba lihat tu MUI dan org2 Jawa yg dikota2. NU yg masih berusaha melawan pengaruh fanatisme ini tapi kok susah sekali ya.. In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Tawangalun tawangalun@ wrote: Yusfiq kudu ngakoni bahwa jumlah bayi lahir yg dinamai Muhammad sampai detik ini tetap tertinggi ngalahkan nama Paul,John dsb.Berarti nama nabi saya itu amat disukai orang.Tapi wong Yusfiq yg berotak anjing itu gak punya anak makane yo gak ngerti.Baru saja cucu saya ke Jogja,itu namanya juga Hammad lucu sekali.Misalnya Bapaknya nanya itu mobil apa dik? Avanza.Wah Hammad pinter.Suatu saat ganti Hammad nanyak Bapaknya: itu suara apa Pak? Ooo itu pesawat.Dia bilang:Wah Bapak pinter.Jadi kamu rugi Fiq gak tahu rasanya punya cucu yg lucu.Sayang kemarin dah balik lagi ke JKT. Shalom, Tawangalun. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ndeboost rambitesemak@ wrote: Saat hampir wafat, Kanjeng Rasulullah saw teringat ummatnya karena beliau saw saat mi'raj diperlihatkan neraka oleh Allah swt. Ummatku, ummatku .. kata beliau saw Sebagaimana nabi- dan rasull-Allah, pbut, Muhammad saw termasuk di sini. Bersih dari dosa. Jadi di Islam ga ada yang namanya dosa waris. Sesungguhnya di Kristen, secara ga langsung, KATEBE, Tuhan sudah mengampuni dosa Adam-Hawa. Dan Yesus, KATBE berdosa. Nyatanya ga mau ngelempar si pelacur meski sebutir pasir. Kan Yesus sendiri yang nangtang para imam melempar? Banyak kisah yang menyatakan rasul pemaaf karena memang tugas beliau membawa kaum yang sesat. Kalau beliau pendendam, apa ada yang layak tiru dari beliau saw? Seorang pengemis (Yahudi) buta dan tua (di Madinah) salah satu kerjaannya setiap hari mencaci maki rasul saw (Kek Pak @Yusfik?). Namun dia ini (pengemis) ga tahu yang Muhammad saw setiap hari juga menyuapi dia, meski sambil dimaki. Setelah rasulullah wafat, tugas beliau saw diambil alih Khalifah Abu Bakar r.a. Dari caranya nyuap pengemis tahu bahwa yang nyuapin dia bukan yang biasanya sehingga akhirnya dia menanyakannya. Kamu ga bisa lagi memakinya karena yang menyuapimu setiap hari sudah wafat, demikian lk jawaban Abu Bakar. Gak kek kita-kita yg asal maki ternyata si Yahudi buta pengemis punya nurani. nDeboost juga ngerampog program (bukan beli). Yang buat program sama saja, mereka ga bayar royalti kepada penemu 0 (nol) maupun abjad. Gandhi (CMIIW) diskriminatif. nDeboost pernah baca yang dia ini mau nyium telapak kaki seorang cewe asal ga masuk Islam. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya ayubyahya@ wrote: gak ada klarifikasi dari Tawang, yang ada cuma peng-kultus-an, nabi Muhammad tuh gagah juga jadi statemen Hidayatulah bahwa : al-Quran hanya sebatas Nabi Muhammad ini di amin-kan Wang, kalo gitu nabi Muhammad kalah jauh ama Bill Gate Bill Gate kagak baca al-quran.. tapi microsoft nya banyak dipakai orang2 islam.. termasuk tawang piye Wang ? pernyataan lu nomer 1 - 3, mahatma ghandi juga bisa... yang nomer 4, bill gate jauh lebih gagah karena bill gate pakai kaca mata.. hehehe -On Fri, 2/18/11, Tawangalun tawangalun@ wrote: Â Al Quran itu isinya ada: 1. Ar Rahman jadi Rasulpun welas asih. 2.
[proletar] Re: Tawang nggak berani lagi ngomong tentang angka 19 atau gunung pasak bumi..
Kaset rusak? Ngefek ke head (kepala) kan? Pantes. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Tawangalun tawangalun@... wrote: Bukan soal gak berani saya itu bukan kayak lo yg seperti kaset rusak,gak malu ngeluarin tulisan yg itu2 aja,coba deh belajar nulis yg mutu deh. Shalom, Tawangalun. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Tawang nggak berani lagi ngomong tentang angka 19 atau gunung pasak bumi.. Angka 19 ternyata cuman tahayul numerologi doang.. Sedangkan omongan buku taik anjing al-Mushaf susunan orang Arab primitif yang bilang gunung itu pasak bumi ternyata ya cuman omong kosong doang... mi Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Rusuh Cikeusik Temanggung Pengalihan Isu
Thamrin: Rusuh Cikeusik dan Temanggung Pengalihan Isu Kebohongan SBY... Saya curiga ini manipulasi intelijen yang sedang mengobok-obok keadaan sekarang ini. Memang pada dasarnya kayu dan jerami keringnya (potensi konflik, Red) sudah ada, lalu ini dimanipulasi operasi intelijen, kata Tamrin dalam diskusi Akar Konflik Horizontal di Indonesia di Megawati Institute, Jalan Proklamasi, Jakarta Pusat, kemarin (17/2). Turut berbicara Direktur Reform Institute Yudi Latief dan budayawan Mohamad Sobary. . http://www.voa-islam.com/news/indonesiana/2011/02/18/13393/thamrin-rusuh\ -cikeusik-dan-temanggung-pengalihan-isu-kebohongan-sby/ Oooo gitu tha. Ya kita lihat sajalah. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: IDEOLOGI2 YG MEMBINGUNGKAN (ISLAM, KOMUNIS, NASIONALIS MILITER)
Soale Islam itu agama kebenaran,makane Jin juga ikut membikin nama Islam tercemar dg cara adu domba.Nek agama lain oleh setan dibiarkan wae ben kelihatan humanis. Shalom, Tawangalun. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, pemerhatidunia pemerhatidunia@... wrote: Pemimpin Kristen terutama katolik abad pertengahan penyembang Bunda Maria itu memang sama juga dengan fasis. Ratusan ribu mereka bantai. Kristen, Budha dan Hindu yg sekarang baik2 aja. Se aneh atau se sesat apapun kepercayaan mereka, tidak ada kudengar lagi mereka saling sesar menyesatkan apalagi bunuh membunuh. Tetapi bandingkan dengan kenyataan Islam yg marak sekarang. Maksudku, ada sesuatu kekuatan yang mengilhami dan menyusupi ideologi2 itu sehingga mereka membunuh manusia, mencari kekuasaan, menghalalkan semua cara. Semua agama dan ideologi tanpa kecuali dimasuki. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ndeboost rambitesemak@ wrote: ISLAM (YG SERIUS) == KOMUNIS == FASIS MILITER Bagaimana dengan Pauline Crosstian alias Pemimpin maupun umat Kristen? Apa Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin Islam, Hirohito, Bush Jr, Pol Pot Islam? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, pemerhatidunia pemerhatidunia@ wrote: ISLAM (YG SERIUS) == KOMUNIS == FASIS MILITER?? Orang dari FPI bilang mari kita kembali pada Islam yang murni, lalu ketahuan lah Islam yang murni itu yang tidak bisa menerima perbedaan dan gemar melakukan kekerasan. Contoh bagus komplit adalah MUI dan FPI. Tidak heran, wong dulunya Muhammad itu setelah diusir dari Mekkah lalu aksi balas dendam merampok membunuh dan menghancurkan, bahkan mengeliminasi orang yahudi nasrani dari Arab. Itulah the real ISLAM bagi kalian yang mau serius dg Muhammad. Lalu yg bikin aku pusing adalah teman ku seorang yg sangat senior mengatakan bahwa Islam Brotherhood yang di Mesir sukses mempelopori revolusi itu adalah sebenarnya KOMUNIS, karena mereka menggunakan modus atau metode dan tujuan yang sama. Demikian pula tokoh oposisi di Mesir itu adalah orang komunis. Dan seluruh Timur tengah guncang sebenarnya dibelakangnya karena gerakan komunis. Lho, kok bisa ?? aku penasaran. Ya, coba lihat, katanya. Caranya sama, tujuannya sama, memang mereka pintar membuat sistem IDEOLOGI. Satunya pakai nama agama, jihad di jalan Allah satunya pakai nama revolusi rakyat satunya lagi pakai nasionalis militer , jargonnya beda, padahal tujuan dan cara mereka menguasai dunia sama. Rakyat akan ditindas, dengan hukum komunis, hukum militer atau hukum syariat. Dalam tiga hukum itu, semuanya perlakuannya sama kejamnya. Lihat tuh cara komunis Russia dan China, bandingkan dengan penguasa Arab Saudi, Pakistan, Yemen, Bahrain, Libya, Iran, sama saja bukan caranya mereka menginjak rakyat?? Aku ingat juga bahwa Islam itu memang bahaya latent, sebab jika anak2 kita serius meneladani Muhammad, tidak ada garansi mereka gak jadi teroris. Sama dong dengan komunis, juga dengan rezim militer Soeharto ... Kemarin di Al Jazeera di acaranya Riz Khan ada wawancara dengan beberapa orang Pakistan, yang mengeluh, karena mereka makin islamisasi makin jahat pada perbedaan, makin kejam, makin tidak toleran. Ada UU menghukum semua yg menghujat Nabi Muhammad, disalah gunakan untuk menindas minoritas dan org2 kafir, bahkan ada gubernur ditembak mati oleh pengawalnya dan yg membunuh malah didukung. Sama di Indonesia, lihat tuh kasus Temanggung dan Ahmadiyyah. Kacau sekali sistem moral Islam itu. Cara cuci otaknya pun sama dengan komunis dan militer. ISLAM (YG SERIUS) == KOMUNIS == FASIS MILITER itu kesimpulannya. Aku bingung tapi gak bisa bantah. Apa ini semua DARI SUMBER YANG SAMA??? Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: IDEOLOGI2 YG MEMBINGUNGKAN (ISLAM, KOMUNIS, NASIONALIS MILITER)
Tapi ingat Fiq doktrin Kristen itu:Tuhan Bapa membuat rencana menyiksa dan mateni Putra Tunggalnya untuk nebus dosane Situmorang cs.Dan rencana tsb direalisir,tur tetap digembor gemborkan terus sampai detik ini wong itu pilar Kristen.Beda dg Allah cuman ngetest Ibrahim,begitu parang Ibrahim sudah nempel dileher Putranya maka Allah mengganti dg wedus Gibas,dan dinapak tilasi terus hingga saat ini oleh Moslem. Shalom, Tawangalun. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@... wrote: Gereja katolik Roma telah mengakui kesalahan yang mereka lakukan sejakdua ribu tahun yang lalu dan telah minta ampun. Sekarang baik Vatikan maupun gereja anggota WCC menolak kekerasan, menolak hukuman mati dan menolak perang. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, pemerhatidunia pemerhatidunia@ wrote: Pemimpin Kristen terutama katolik abad pertengahan penyembang Bunda Maria itu memang sama juga dengan fasis. Ratusan ribu mereka bantai. Kristen, Budha dan Hindu yg sekarang baik2 aja. Se aneh atau se sesat apapun kepercayaan mereka, tidak ada kudengar lagi mereka saling sesar menyesatkan apalagi bunuh membunuh. Tetapi bandingkan dengan kenyataan Islam yg marak sekarang. Maksudku, ada sesuatu kekuatan yang mengilhami dan menyusupi ideologi2 itu sehingga mereka membunuh manusia, mencari kekuasaan, menghalalkan semua cara. Semua agama dan ideologi tanpa kecuali dimasuki. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ndeboost rambitesemak@ wrote: ISLAM (YG SERIUS) == KOMUNIS == FASIS MILITER Bagaimana dengan Pauline Crosstian alias Pemimpin maupun umat Kristen? Apa Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin Islam, Hirohito, Bush Jr, Pol Pot Islam? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, pemerhatidunia pemerhatidunia@ wrote: ISLAM (YG SERIUS) == KOMUNIS == FASIS MILITER?? Orang dari FPI bilang mari kita kembali pada Islam yang murni, lalu ketahuan lah Islam yang murni itu yang tidak bisa menerima perbedaan dan gemar melakukan kekerasan. Contoh bagus komplit adalah MUI dan FPI. Tidak heran, wong dulunya Muhammad itu setelah diusir dari Mekkah lalu aksi balas dendam merampok membunuh dan menghancurkan, bahkan mengeliminasi orang yahudi nasrani dari Arab. Itulah the real ISLAM bagi kalian yang mau serius dg Muhammad. Lalu yg bikin aku pusing adalah teman ku seorang yg sangat senior mengatakan bahwa Islam Brotherhood yang di Mesir sukses mempelopori revolusi itu adalah sebenarnya KOMUNIS, karena mereka menggunakan modus atau metode dan tujuan yang sama. Demikian pula tokoh oposisi di Mesir itu adalah orang komunis. Dan seluruh Timur tengah guncang sebenarnya dibelakangnya karena gerakan komunis. Lho, kok bisa ?? aku penasaran. Ya, coba lihat, katanya. Caranya sama, tujuannya sama, memang mereka pintar membuat sistem IDEOLOGI. Satunya pakai nama agama, jihad di jalan Allah satunya pakai nama revolusi rakyat satunya lagi pakai nasionalis militer , jargonnya beda, padahal tujuan dan cara mereka menguasai dunia sama. Rakyat akan ditindas, dengan hukum komunis, hukum militer atau hukum syariat. Dalam tiga hukum itu, semuanya perlakuannya sama kejamnya. Lihat tuh cara komunis Russia dan China, bandingkan dengan penguasa Arab Saudi, Pakistan, Yemen, Bahrain, Libya, Iran, sama saja bukan caranya mereka menginjak rakyat?? Aku ingat juga bahwa Islam itu memang bahaya latent, sebab jika anak2 kita serius meneladani Muhammad, tidak ada garansi mereka gak jadi teroris. Sama dong dengan komunis, juga dengan rezim militer Soeharto ... Kemarin di Al Jazeera di acaranya Riz Khan ada wawancara dengan beberapa orang Pakistan, yang mengeluh, karena mereka makin islamisasi makin jahat pada perbedaan, makin kejam, makin tidak toleran. Ada UU menghukum semua yg menghujat Nabi Muhammad, disalah gunakan untuk menindas minoritas dan org2 kafir, bahkan ada gubernur ditembak mati oleh pengawalnya dan yg membunuh malah didukung. Sama di Indonesia, lihat tuh kasus Temanggung dan Ahmadiyyah. Kacau sekali sistem moral Islam itu. Cara cuci otaknya pun sama dengan komunis dan militer. ISLAM (YG SERIUS) == KOMUNIS == FASIS MILITER itu kesimpulannya. Aku bingung tapi gak bisa bantah. Apa ini semua DARI SUMBER YANG SAMA??? Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email:
[proletar] Politisi : Jangan Jadikan Sulbar Seperti Papua
Refleksi. Pernyataan : Wakil Ketua Dewan Pimpinan Pusat Partai PDI Perjuangan, Idham Samawi, meminta agar Pemprov Sulawesi Barat tidak menjadikan daerahnya seperti Provinsi Papua yang dikuasai perusahaan asing, Kurangkah perusahan raksasa NKRI yang berlambang nasional di Papua? Ada-ada saja kibulan wakil PDI. Bukankah pada waktu pemerintahan Megawati diizinkan perusahaan asing beroperasi di Papua, contohnya : Pengolahan gas di Teluk Bituni oleh BP. Cadangan gas alam di teluk Bituni diperkirakan mengandung 14,4 trllion cubic ft, Salah satu cadangan gas terbesar di dunia. Pemerintah Megawati menandatangani kontrak untuk expor gas tsb ke Tiongkok, Taiwan, Korea Selatan, Jepang dan Mexico/USA selama 20 tahun? Rakyat Papua dapat apa? http://www.antaranews.com/news/246582/politisi--jangan-jadikan-sulbar-seperti-papua Politisi : Jangan Jadikan Sulbar Seperti Papua Jumat, 18 Februari 2011 00:59 WIB | 956 Views Ilustrasi PDIP (grafis) Mamuju (ANTARA News) - Wakil Ketua Dewan Pimpinan Pusat Partai PDI Perjuangan, Idham Samawi, meminta agar Pemprov Sulawesi Barat tidak menjadikan daerahnya seperti Provinsi Papua yang dikuasai perusahaan asing. Provinsi Sulbar sangat kaya akan hasil alam seperti di bidang pertanian peternakan perikanan dan pertambangan, karena di mana-mana masih terdapat potensi tambang, hutan luas dan tanah yang subur, laut yang biru nan luas, kata Idham Samawi, di Mamuju, Sulbar, Kamis. Ia mengatakan, kekayaan alam yang dimiliki Sulbar merupakan anugrah dari yang maha kuasa hendaknya kekayaan alam yang melimpah itu dipelihara dengan dimanfaatkan secara baik agar bermanfaat bagi kesejahteraan masyarakat dan tidak disia-siakan dengan diberikan kepada pihak lain. Menurut dia, masyarakat dan pemerintah di daerah ini harus mengelola sendiri kekayaan alamnnya dengan tidak memberikan kesempatan bagi perusahaan asing untuk mengelola dan mengambil hasilnya sementara masyarakat dibiarkan miskin dan menderita. Sulbar yang kaya ini jangan seperti Papua yang tanahnya banyak dikuasai asing seperti PT Free Port yang telah mengambil kekayaan daerah itu sekian tahun lamanya, tanpa memberikan hasil yang maksimal bagi masyarakat, kata mantan Bupati Bantul, Yogyakarta, dua periode ini. Ia mengatakan, hasil kekayaan alam Papua hanya dinikmati investor yang mengelola daerah tersebut sementara hasil dari kekayaan alamnya tidak dinikmati sendiri masyarakat Papua karena masyarakatnya tetap hidup dibawah garis kemiskinan,katanya. Oleh karena itu ia berharap pemerintah dan masyarakat yang ada di Sulbar dapat mengelola kekayaan dengan maksimal dengan meningkatkan sumber daya manusia yang dimiliknya agar bersiap mengelola sendiri kekayaan alamnya Hutan yang begitu luas di Sulbar tanah yang subur potensi tambang yang melimpah sudah tidak ditemukan lagi di Pulau Jawa karena sangat jarang tinggal di Sulbar ini. Hendaknya itu dijaga agar dapat dimanfaatkan bagi generasi depan bangsa ini melanjutkan hidupnya, katanya. Ia meminta agar kader PDI Perjuangan yang ada di Sulbar baik di parlemen maupun yang ada di pemerintahan untuk mempertahankan pengelolaan daerah ini agar hasil pengelolaannya tidak hanya dinikmati pihak asing, namun dinikmati pula oleh seluruh lapisan masyarakat Kader PDI Perjuangan saya minta untuk berpartisipasi membantu pemerintah dan masyarakat membangun sumber daya manusia daerah ini serta berpartisipasi meningkatkan pembangunan daerah agar lebih baik dimasa mendatang dan masyarakatnya bisa adil makmur dan sejahtera, katanya. (MFH/Y006/K004) Berita Terkait a.. Wapres Berikan Waktu Sepekan Masukan Perpres Papua b.. Seorang Pria Makan Anaknya Sendiri dalam Ritual Sihir c.. Pangdam: Penyerangan Pos Perbatasan Ulah Pihak Ketiga d.. Oditur Kasus Aparat Penganiaya Diminta Banding e.. Pengidap HIV/AIDS di Jayapura Didominasi IRT [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Software+Tool+Data Utk Bisnis Internet Promo Online/Internet
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