Sound Without Sight, first monthly meet-up featuring Slau

[Peter Bosher]

Hi All,

Monthly Meet-ups
About the meet-up sessions
Sound Without Sight is a community-led initiative, which collates and 
commissions resources to support blind and partially sighted musicians, 
audio engineers, voiceover artists, and other industry professionals to 
thrive. We want Sound Without Sight to grow into a thriving community 
that showcases the work of blind and partially sighted creatives, and 
how they navigated the industry to find themselves in their current role.
Starting in February 2024, we will be curating monthly virtual meet-up 
sessions, which will bring together established professionals, community 
members who are just starting out, and everybody in between, creating a 
space to share knowledge, solutions, and tips for success.
The sessions will be open, informal, and supportive – we hope that all 
attendees will feel comfortable to ask questions as well as share advice.

How will the sessions be structured?
1. Each session will begin with a live discussion between a headline 
guest speaker or panel and a host from the Sound Without Sight team. The 
host will ask curated questions, including relevant ones submitted in 
advance by the community.
2. We will then open up to questions and discussion between attendees, 
which could be about anything related to music or audio.
3. Finally, we will round off the session by playing out audio 
submissions and sharing updates from community members. Got a new 
release coming out? Tried something new or achieved something that you’d 
like to share? Let us know before the session and we’ll make sure 
there’s time to shout about it!

When and where?
Third Thursday of the month, 7.30pm UK time. Sessions will take place on 
Zoom and last around an hour.

Next session
Thursday 15th February 2024, featuring Slau Halatyn.
We are excited to announce our first Monthly Meet-up on Thursday 15th 
February featuring headline guest, Slau Halatyn. Slau is a New York 
based producer, studio owner, musician, and advocate for accessibility 
within music production tools. He is best known for his supporting the 
development of accessibility within Pro Tools and Sibelius, helping to 
ensure that these pieces of software are compatible with VoiceOver.
This 60-90 minute session will be of particular interest for people with 
an interest in music production, although everyone is welcome.

Slau will be discussing:
– His journey as a recording engineer, producer, and studio owner.
– Tips for honing the people skills involved in being a producer and 
recording engineer.
– His experience of working with Avid to improve accessibility of Pro 
Tools.
This is a relaxed, informal discussion and audience participation is 
encouraged. We advised that you contact us with any questions you may 
have so that we can ensure that they are included in our discussion. 
There will also be time at the end for a Q so that you have the 
opportunity to ask any questions that may occur to you during the session.

Register via Zoom from the Sound Without Sight website here:

https://soundwithoutsight.org/community/monthly-meet-ups/


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Re: I need help with Workspace. As anyone used it?

[peter bosher]

Hi again Luis,


I meant to say VO-Shift-M for the context menu.  My apologies.


Best,


peter



On 29/08/2019 01:21, Luis Daniel Pérez Oficial wrote:
> Hi folks,
>  happens that I want to design an audio with sound effects, ambient
> music, like a movie but only with audio.
> I've a collection too many extensive of sound effects, but I think it's
> very hard to search, look for each one, import, search, import… and if I
> need 200 sounds in that audio I couldn't use it, because Protools only
> supports up to 128 tracks.
> I've hearing about Workspace, but really I don't know how to use it.
> If anyone is expert or at least knows something about sound-design or
> audio-postproduction­, could them say me how to manage their libraries,
> please?
> I'll be so grateful.
> Thanks in advance for your answers.
> Best regards.
>

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Re: I need help with Workspace. As anyone used it?

[peter bosher]

Hi Luis,


I had to use Workspace a lot at one time, and I'm a little rusty now but 
see whether this helps:


Open the default Workspace window. When you type your search-term in the 
search box, results start appearing gradually, so VO-left and it will 
give you the number of results.  Wait until that stabilises.   Now go to 
the last table in the window and interact.  Here you can look down 
through the results, and if you make a hotspot for the audition button, 
then you can quickly hear each file.


Once you find the one you want, there are two ways to get it into your 
session.  The quick way is to press VO-m for the context menu, then 
choose "spot to edit insertion".  That will only appear on compatible 
files, but even then you have to be sure it's in the right format.  The 
other more reliable but longer way, is to pick "reveal in finder" and 
copy it to the audio files in your session, from where you can import it 
as a clip or new track.


I hope that helps a bit.


Best,


Peter


On 29/08/2019 01:21, Luis Daniel Pérez Oficial wrote:
> Hi folks,
>  happens that I want to design an audio with sound effects, ambient
> music, like a movie but only with audio.
> I've a collection too many extensive of sound effects, but I think it's
> very hard to search, look for each one, import, search, import… and if I
> need 200 sounds in that audio I couldn't use it, because Protools only
> supports up to 128 tracks.
> I've hearing about Workspace, but really I don't know how to use it.
> If anyone is expert or at least knows something about sound-design or
> audio-postproduction­, could them say me how to manage their libraries,
> please?
> I'll be so grateful.
> Thanks in advance for your answers.
> Best regards.
>

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Re: Editing a long take

[peter bosher]

Hi Ramy,


Two things which might help you:

In ProTools preferences, operation tab, transport cluster, check the 
checkbox "audio during fast-forward/rewind", set the "custom FF/RW 
speed" to your preference but I find around 500 % is good. then make 
sure that the numeric keypad mode is set to "transport".

Now you should be able to hear samples as you fast-forward with num-pad 
2 or rewind with numpad 1.


The second thing is that you can hear playback at increasingly fast 
speeds by holding down the control key and pressing num-pad 6 through 9.


HTH,


Peter



On 22/11/2018 02:27, CHUCK REICHEL wrote:
> Hi Ramy,
>
> First thing to try is a noise gate and just set the threshold so only the 
> usable vocal can be heard.
> next You can use strip silence on the vocal track and just set the threshold 
> below any usable vocal information on the track.
> If you set it properly you'll only have the vocal track left on the track.
> back up the vocal track before doing anything like this!
> HTH
> Chuck
> "God does not play dice with the universe"
> "Albert Einstein’
>
> On Nov 21, 2018, at 6:30 PM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
>
>> Ok, but again i must listen to the hole track in this way, right?
>> there is no way to know where the singer is singing, he can sing just 1 or 2 
>> words,
>> and then silence for 4 or 5 bars. etc
>> so the tap will not work.
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 21, 2018, at 8:15 PM, Steve Martin  wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah, use tab to move to where the singing starts then when you find where 
>>> you want to edit use CMD+E to split the wave file there.
>>>
>>>
 On Nov 21, 2018, at 12:30 PM, Ramy Moustafa  
 wrote:

 Ok, but i have the track as 1 wave file, because he needs me to open 
 Recording and leave him sing whenever he needs.
 do you mean Using the Cmd+E  after i listen him Singing? or what?

> On Nov 21, 2018, at 3:55 PM, Steve Martin  
> wrote:
>
> Tab to transient may be useful here.  Every time you are at the start of 
> where its blank for a while if you tab to the next transient it should 
> place you where he starts singing again and if needed you can rewind a 
> little to place the split.
>
>> On Nov 21, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Ramy Moustafa  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi:
>> Am using Kepad of cores, but pressing 1 and 2 move me between bars but i 
>> can not listen while Moving between them.
>> I have my Fader port 8, also, presssing the Fast forward keys did not 
>> make me listen.
>>
>> any ideas?
>>
>>> On Nov 21, 2018, at 2:10 PM, 'Stefan Albertshauser' via Pro Tools 
>>> Accessibility  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> If you’re using the numeric key pad, fast foreward is possible. If you 
>>> have a control surface with jog wheel, the scrubbing function 
>>> definitely is your friend.
>>>
>>> Hope, that helps.
>>>
>>> Stefan
 Am 21.11.2018 um 12:54 schrieb Ramy Moustafa 
 :

 Hi all:

 Need to know if there is a better Strategy of editing an audio take 
 contains some backing vocal?
 the VOcal asked me not to shut down the track, which means, he will 
 sing in some places he liked, it was a Rap song.
 so, while editing, i have all the audio track as 1 track, is there a 
 better way of editing it  just  removing unwanted Breething between a 
 long distance?
 let’s say that the Rapper started his rap on bar 2, for 2 beats, he 
 keeps silent til bar 9. and start singing again.
 of cores, i do not tknow when he will sing to open and close the 
 record, which  means that in editing, i must listen to the hole track 
 to edit it.
 sited engineers tcan see the places that he sang as strong waves, and 
 start editing before them.
 is there an accessibl  solution?

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Dragging clips to timeline

[Peter Bosher]

Hi All,


When using FloTools to drag clips from the clip-list onto the timeline, 
is it possible to spot them to the selection cursor time, or do they 
always go to the beginning of the track?


I'm working on a project where I have to bring in lots of pre-recorded 
clips on different tracks at different times, and I'd so much like to 
nail this process, because it is still hit and miss for me.  So, if you 
have patience, please could you check my procedure below?


I find the clip I need in the clip-list with the VO cursor, press 
command-option-shift comma, then stop interacting, find the track where 
I want the clip to go, (not in the tracklist table but in the edit 
window), then press command-option-shift period.  Am I missing 
anything?  Sometimes it works, but sometimes it will say 'dragging 
failed'.  and it always goes to time zero.   Any pointers on exact 
details, especially spotting to the selection time, very much appreciated.


Best,

Peter

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Re: FloTools one-time only

[Peter Bosher]

Thanks Slau, but the 'Launch engine at log-in' checkbox was checked, and 
the issue remains.   So the work-around for now is to run KM first each 
time, which is better than having to re-install FloTools, but not 
ideal.   Any further ideas and, although not completely related, would 
you recommend upgrading to High Sierra yet?  Has the VO focus issue been 
resolved, any other issues to be wary of?



Best,


Peter



On 09/01/2018 21:40, Slau Halatyn wrote:

Peter,
Chi just reminded me that the option for making sure the Keyboard Maestro Engine starts 
up automatically is in the Keyboard Maestro Preferences. Launch Keyboard Maestro editor 
and go to the Preferences and, in the General Tab, check the first checkbox that says, 
"Launch Engine at Startup." Boom.
Slau


On Jan 9, 2018, at 11:16 AM, Peter Bosher <peter.bos...@btconnect.com> wrote:

Hi All, and Happy New Year,


I still have the issue of FloTools only working properly once, and having to 
re-install it every time I start the system.


I tried uninstalling FloTools 2.31, which was the first version that gave me 
the problem, and going back to version 2.30, but still have the issue, so I 
suppose it must be something on my system rather than a bug.   Would you 
recommend upgrading to High Sierra now, with a chance that might fix the issue? 
 Anything else I could try?


Best,


Peter



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FloTools one-time only

[Peter Bosher]

Hi All, and Happy New Year,


I still have the issue of FloTools only working properly once, and 
having to re-install it every time I start the system.



I tried uninstalling FloTools 2.31, which was the first version that 
gave me the problem, and going back to version 2.30, but still have the 
issue, so I suppose it must be something on my system rather than a 
bug.   Would you recommend upgrading to High Sierra now, with a chance 
that might fix the issue?  Anything else I could try?



Best,


Peter



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FloTools strangeness in 2.3.1

[Peter Bosher]

Hi All,


I've been using FloTools since it was launched and besides all the 
appreciation for its productivity value, I've always found it very 
reliable.  Since upgrading from 2.30 to 2.3.1, it completely stops 
working after I shut down.  So, I install 2.3.1, after which it works 
perfectly for one run of ProTools.  I then close PT and shut down.  Next 
day, FloTools appears to have gone.  No keystrokes give any response.  I 
then reinstall it and it works fine again for just one time.



Has anyone else seen this, and is there anything I can try?  I'm running 
PT 12.8.2 under Sierra.



Best,


Peter


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Re: Help with Burn

[Peter Bosher]

Thanks so much Christopher-Mark, things like that are so incredibly 
easy, but only once you know how. Yet again this amazing list proves its 
value.  I seem to beat myself up for not knowing, or being able to work 
out, how to do certain things, and then I ask and somebody comes back 
with what seems like it should have been obvious.  I'm happy that I've 
been able to answer a few questions in the past in the same way, and 
hope my own ratio of answers to questions increases with time.



All that to say how much I appreciate your taking the time to answer, 
and that goes for all of us.



Very best,


Peter



On 19/12/2017 12:44, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
No no no. Go to the top of the screen in the app, and you'll see a 
toolbar. Interact with that tool bar with VO+Shift+down arrow. then, 
VO+right arrow through your toolbar, and you should see the option to 
change to an audio CD.

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   - Original Message -
   From: Peter Bosher
   To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 7:39 AM
   Subject: Help with Burn


   Hi All,


   Slau recommended the app just called 'Burn' and it certainly looks very
   accessible, but by default it burns data CD's and I just can't figure
   out how to set it to burn an audio CD. I feel as though I should be
   able to work this out, but the documentation doesn't make it clear and
   I've dug around in options and menus and just can't see how it's done.


   Best,


   Peter


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Help with Burn

[Peter Bosher]

Hi All,


Slau recommended the app just called 'Burn' and it certainly looks very 
accessible, but by default it burns data CD's and I just can't figure 
out how to set it to burn an audio CD.   I feel as though I should be 
able to work this out, but the documentation doesn't make it clear and 
I've dug around in options and menus and just can't see how it's done.



Best,


Peter


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CD burning re-visited

[Peter Bosher]

Hi All,


A few weeks back there was a thread about accessible CD-burning Mac 
software.   One of the recommendations was 'Simply Burns', but the 
download I find dates from 2009 and won't immediately install because 
it's unidentified by Apple.  Is that the right one do you think?  And 
What was the alternative one called? A download website would be great.



Best,


Peter


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Superior Drummer versions

[Peter Bosher]

Hi All,


I have SD 2 on DVD which I've been using under Windows.


When I try to install it on the Mac it refuses, saying  I need OS 10.4 
or higher.  I'm actually running Sierra.  Question:  will the last 
version of SD2 run under Sierra?   If so, then I guess I can get this 
via the Product Manager.  If not, then from recent messages I see that 
there are doubts about the accessibility of SD3, so in short, what's my 
best option for SD with PT?



Best,


Peter


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WhatsApp group

[Peter Bosher]

Hi All,


Please could some kind soul send me a link to join the WhatsApp group?


TIA,


Peter


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Thunderbolt or Firewire

[Peter Bosher]

Hi All,


I need to choose a new audio interface, and looking around suggests that 
Thunderbolt may be better than FireWire.   I only have one Thunderbolt 
port which is used by the monitor, so what would be the best way of 
connecting an interface?



Secondary question, do you have a recommendation for an interface with 
at least 4 (but not more than 8) independent inputs and MIDI in, from 
the likes of Focusrite or Mackie, whether TB or FW?


Best,

Peter

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Re: Accessible loudness meter plug-ins for mastering

[Peter Bosher]

Hi Phil,


You wrote:


 Can also easily check LUFS in Sound Forge 11

How do you do that please?

Best,

Peter

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Re: Vintage reverb

[Peter Bosher]

Hi Slau,


To my deep joy, thanks to your follow-up, I was able to adjust 
parameters with the Artist Mix. It would still be good to know if 
there's a good reverb plug-in that's more accessible when just using 
VO.  is there such an animal?



Best,


Peter



On 28/06/2017 17:07, Slau Halatyn wrote:

Hi Peter,
I missed this thread earlier and am sorry to say that the Valhalla stuff, while 
great, unfortunately doesn't respond to VoiceOver when trying to change 
parameters. With a control surface, everything works fine. This is a  case 
where, since Sean uses JUCE and probably isn't using the same process that 
Sound Radix used, the parameters are unresponsive through VoiceOver alone. I'll 
drop him a line again and inquire whether he might consider updating.
Slau


On Jun 28, 2017, at 5:21 AM, Peter Bosher <peter.bos...@btconnect.com> wrote:

Hi All,


Thanks to Chris and Phil for recommending Vintage Reverb from ValhallaDSP.  I 
have it working and it does generally sound good, but is there a trick to 
adjusting parameters?  when I interact with them and try the usual VO-up/down 
the values speak but don't change.


Also, there don't seem to be any default presets.  Is that right or is there 
another trick?

Best,


Peter


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Vintage reverb

[Peter Bosher]

Hi All,


Thanks to Chris and Phil for recommending Vintage Reverb from 
ValhallaDSP.  I have it working and it does generally sound good, but is 
there a trick to adjusting parameters?  when I interact with them and 
try the usual VO-up/down the values speak but don't change.



Also, there don't seem to be any default presets.  Is that right or is 
there another trick?


Best,


Peter


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Go-to reverb

[Peter Bosher]

Hi All,


When possible, I prefer to have one really good plug-in that I get to 
know well, rather than a whole bunch with different interfaces.For 
reverb, That used to be Lexicon Pantheon.  I find PT's native D-verb 
remarkably horrible, so my question is, if you had to choose just one 
go-to reverb plug-in, to use with PT, for quality first, and 
accessibility too, which one would you recommend, and a rough price and 
website would be really helpful too if easy to do please.



Whilst writing, I just have to add my heartfelt thanks and appreciation 
to Slau, Chi and the others for Flotools 2.2.  It rocks.



Best,


Peter


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Clips to timeline in Sierra

[Peter Bosher]

Hi All,


Since running Sierra, I'm no longer able to get clips from the clips 
list onto the timeline, using the methods in Slau's tutorial.



Having selected one or more clips, when I do a mouse-down, VO speaks 
'Now in mix ...".  and focus has indeed jumped to the mix window.  On 
rare occasions when it has said 'mouse down on edit', when I then go to 
the tracklist table and do a mouse-up, it says 'mouse up on Apple', and 
there is no new track.



This is a total show-stopper for me as I constantly have to import 
files.   Firstly, can anyone suggest what I might try, and secondly, is 
there any chance that FloTools might address this long-standing 
difficulty.   I'm so tempted right now to go back to Sonar for certain 
tasks where this was a cinch ... but seriously, there has to be a 
reliable way to get files in.  Even when I used to import them as new 
tracks, I found that they couldn't be edited normally if they weren't in 
the clips list, so what to do?



Best,


Peter


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Re: Possible FloTools keystroke conflict

[Peter Bosher]

Hi again All,


So I tried the Oreo Monster's suggestion.   When I hold down control and 
right click the physical mouse, VO speaks "Menu, four items, loop 
audition ...".   but two questions then arise:  how do I even access 
that menu?  it disappears when I release the mouse button, so I can't 
cursor up and down in the menu.



Second, that menu is probably a context menu for the audition button, 
rather than for the highlighted file, so the problem remains, how to 
action a file that I'm auditioning with up/down arrow?



Perhaps there is no other way than counting as you go, and then 
returning with the VO cursor.   Can anybody try to replicate this 
process and see whether you find a foolproof method.   I feel like 
foolproof is the operative word here, but the hoops we have to jump 
through ...



Best,


Peter



On 16/05/2017 14:27, Slau Halatyn wrote:

Hi Peter,
OK, that makes more sense. The contextual menu approach might be helpful but, 
if anything you wish to do involves clicking or dragging, the problem will be 
that lists of files might not necessarily scroll and thus VoiceOver can be 
focused on an item that is beyond the boundaries of the workspace's window. I 
know the Page Up and Down keys do work in workspace windows. The trouble is 
knowing whether something is truly in view. This is one of the issues I'll be 
working on shortly with Avid among other things. Keep us posted on your 
progress.

Slau


On May 16, 2017, at 9:18 AM, Peter Bosher <peter.bos...@btconnect.com> wrote:

Hi Slau, and thanks to you and others for replies so far.


First, to clarify, I do actually want to route the VO cursor to the keyboard 
cursor, so sorry if I added confusion to an already hard to explain operation.


Second, the import file workaround won't do what I wanted, because as somebody 
else pointed out, the WorkSpace is the only method which serches through files 
on all meta-data and across many folders.


Thirdly,  I'll try the OreoMonster's right-click idea and report back.


Fourthly, here's one more try at explaining the scenario.


After searching for, say, heavy rain, or whatever it might be, I have maybe a 
hundred results from a large effects library.   If I press 'audition', then I 
can down arrow, and quickly hear the start of each file.  But, when I find one 
I need, I want to route the VO-cursor to it, so that I can use VO-shift-M, 
which then lets me either spot it to the edit cursor, or reveal it in finder.  
At the moment, I have to try to count down the list, and then re-locate it with 
the VO-cursor.


The right-click method may do the trick and I'll try it ASAP, but if anybody 
knows a simpler reliable way, please do say.


Best,


Peter





On 15/05/2017 20:09, Slau Halatyn wrote:

Hi Peter,
The key combination you mention is not used by Flo Tools but, more importantly, 
what that combination does is the opposite of what you're saying you're trying 
to do. It routes VoiceOver to the keyboard focused item rather than the other 
way around. Hope that clears things up.
Slau


On May 15, 2017, at 1:02 PM, Peter Bosher <peter.bos...@btconnect.com> wrote:

Hi All,


I'm not sure whether this is a FloTools keystroke conflict, but in my continuing fight to 
tame the workspace, which I'll explain below in case anyone can help further, I need to 
route the highlight cursor to the VO cursor. The keystroke for this should be 
VO-shift-F4, but when I press that VO speaks "presets", and the routing doesn't 
happen.


Be that as it may, I've been trying for months now to find a really good 
workflow for auditioning files from the workspace window.   Thanks to your 
suggestions so far, I'm further on than I was, so using hot-spots helps a lot, 
but still, when I have a hundred or more files to audition, what I'm trying to 
do is quickly hear the beginning of each file whilst arrowing down. This works, 
but when I then find a file I want to use, I can't easily use the context-menu 
to 'reveal in finder' for example, because the VO-cursor doesn't follow the 
arrowing.  That is why I was hoping to route the VO-cursor to the list, but no 
joy.


If you're still with me, then thanks for your patience, and can you suggest any 
work-around or method to make this process more productive?


Best,


Peter


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Re: Possible FloTools keystroke conflict

[Peter Bosher]

Hi Slau, and thanks to you and others for replies so far.


First, to clarify, I do actually want to route the VO cursor to the 
keyboard cursor, so sorry if I added confusion to an already hard to 
explain operation.



Second, the import file workaround won't do what I wanted, because as 
somebody else pointed out, the WorkSpace is the only method which 
serches through files on all meta-data and across many folders.



Thirdly,  I'll try the OreoMonster's right-click idea and report back.


Fourthly, here's one more try at explaining the scenario.


After searching for, say, heavy rain, or whatever it might be, I have 
maybe a hundred results from a large effects library.   If I press 
'audition', then I can down arrow, and quickly hear the start of each 
file.  But, when I find one I need, I want to route the VO-cursor to it, 
so that I can use VO-shift-M, which then lets me either spot it to the 
edit cursor, or reveal it in finder.  At the moment, I have to try to 
count down the list, and then re-locate it with the VO-cursor.



The right-click method may do the trick and I'll try it ASAP, but if 
anybody knows a simpler reliable way, please do say.



Best,


Peter





On 15/05/2017 20:09, Slau Halatyn wrote:

Hi Peter,
The key combination you mention is not used by Flo Tools but, more importantly, 
what that combination does is the opposite of what you're saying you're trying 
to do. It routes VoiceOver to the keyboard focused item rather than the other 
way around. Hope that clears things up.
Slau


On May 15, 2017, at 1:02 PM, Peter Bosher <peter.bos...@btconnect.com> wrote:

Hi All,


I'm not sure whether this is a FloTools keystroke conflict, but in my continuing fight to 
tame the workspace, which I'll explain below in case anyone can help further, I need to 
route the highlight cursor to the VO cursor. The keystroke for this should be 
VO-shift-F4, but when I press that VO speaks "presets", and the routing doesn't 
happen.


Be that as it may, I've been trying for months now to find a really good 
workflow for auditioning files from the workspace window.   Thanks to your 
suggestions so far, I'm further on than I was, so using hot-spots helps a lot, 
but still, when I have a hundred or more files to audition, what I'm trying to 
do is quickly hear the beginning of each file whilst arrowing down. This works, 
but when I then find a file I want to use, I can't easily use the context-menu 
to 'reveal in finder' for example, because the VO-cursor doesn't follow the 
arrowing.  That is why I was hoping to route the VO-cursor to the list, but no 
joy.


If you're still with me, then thanks for your patience, and can you suggest any 
work-around or method to make this process more productive?


Best,


Peter


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Re: Upgrading Mac OS

[Peter Bosher]

Hi Slau,

Since your recommendation I'm very tempted to upgrade to Sierra, but two 
questions please:


Is there any chance of the Artist Mix not working correctly if I do?

And,
What are the main advantages which you said would outweigh any minor 
annoyances?


Best,

Peter


On 21/03/2017 13:45, Slau Halatyn wrote:

Hi Martin,
You'll probably be fine but sometimes unexpected problems can arise, depending on 
what other software you might be using. For example, Native Instruments had an 
issue with the Komplete Kontrol plug-in that kept being rejected by Pro Tools as 
not being a 64-bit plug-in even though it is 64-bit. Allegedly, the problem was 
limited to Yosemite. However, after upgrading directly to Sierra, I saw the same 
problem and this was the first known instance of that problem on Sierra. Yesterday, 
Native Instruments released a fix for the problem. In the mean time, however, I 
decided to nuke & pave the studio computer to do a fresh install of Sierra. I 
might not have undertaken such a task but it just so happens that my Magma 
chassis's power supply died and I had no other option but to send it back to San 
Diego for repair. With a lot of down time on my hands, I wiped the studio drive and 
did a clean install. Needless to say, it's a super tedious process and can take 
days to tweak. I had freshly installed disc images that were ready to go in case of 
catastrophic failure but, unfortunately, they were all based on Yosemite. I had 
never installed Sierra on the studio computer so I had no image of that disc. Well, 
now I'll have an opportunity to create one as soon as I'm done tweaking. The most 
problematic stuff is the reauthorization of non iLok-based software, stuff with 
challenge/response and hardware fingerprinting. Anyway, it's difficult to say 
whether it's worth it. I'd say, do two backups of your system drive and go for the 
direct update. Try it for a few days and see how it goes. If everything's fine, 
you're all set. If not, then make a detailed plan.
HTH,
Slau


On Mar 21, 2017, at 7:55 AM, Martin (Punky) Sopart  wrote:

Hi all!

When upgrading from Yosemite to Sierra...
Is it necessary to make a fresh installation of Sierra or could I use the
update function.
I'm already running Pro Tools 12.7.1

Thanks in advance and have a successful week! / Martin

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Workspace for auditioning sound effects

[Peter Bosher]

Hi All,


The workspace window indexes all drives, and allows for powerful 
searching on file names and meta-data.



I need to search through large collections of sound effects, and quickly 
audition the results.  For example, if I search for shower, crash, 
chaffinch, or whatever, I may have over a hundred results.



I can just about audition these but it's incredibly painful.  I have to 
interact with the list, then when I find one of interest, I shift-click, 
stop interacting, find the audition button and click that.   Then, when 
I interact again, I'm back at the top of the list, so have to VO-cursor 
down to number 63 or whatever, then repeat the process.



So, firstly, is there a better way? and secondly, is it something which 
FloTools could address?



Best,


Peter


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Re: Adjusting levels of sends

[Peter Bosher]

Many thanks Shawn, perfect.  So easy when you know how.


Best,


Peter





On 19/01/2017 15:51, Shawn Brock wrote:

Hi Peter,

After setting up an auxiliary track and putting the desired effect on it, go to 
the track which you want to use the effect on, example a vocal. Navigate to The 
sends kollom and interact with it. Choose the slot by pressing Vito space on 
the button, example, send selector b. Navigate through the menu until you hear 
track sub menu. Right arrow to open the sub menu. There you will see the 
auxiliary track you have created. Press enter on that. This will open up a view 
with the various controls to do what you are wanting, A few of them are, pre-or 
post fader, Front pan, as well as send level.

HTH
Shawn


On Jan 19, 2017, at 9:57 AM, Peter Bosher <peter.bos...@btconnect.com> wrote:

Hi all,


If, for example,  I need to send several tracks to a bus for a reverb effect on 
an auxilliary track, how do I adjust the send level for each track separately, 
and select whether the sends are pre- or post-fader?

Best,

Peter

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Adjusting levels of sends

[Peter Bosher]

Hi all,


If, for example,  I need to send several tracks to a bus for a reverb 
effect on an auxilliary track, how do I adjust the send level for each 
track separately, and select whether the sends are pre- or post-fader?


Best,

Peter

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FloTools Modified clicks

[Peter Bosher]

Hi All,


Besides all the great FloTools workflow features, for which heartfelt 
thanks to Chi, Slau and the team, I was excited to see keystrokes for 
modified clicks, but they aren't working quite as expected here.


I can audition clips in the clips list by holding down option, and 
left-clicking the actual mouse, but when I try option with accent, VO 
says: "Object is outside the window".


Is there anything I should try or could this be a bug?

Best,

Peter

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ProTools Dock for iPad

[Peter Bosher]

Hi All,


In the PT Application Manager today I noticed a new app for the iPad 
called ProTools Dock, which seems to allow the iPad to work as a 
controller.  Has anyone tried this, or does anyone have an iPad to test 
for accessibility?



Best,


Peter


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Sierra

[Peter Bosher]

Hi All,


Running PT version 12.6.1 with FloTools, is it safe to upgrade to Sierra?


Best,


Peter


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Re: Using iLok

[Peter Bosher]

Many thanks to Phil and Mike for your kind replies.


It's sorted for now and I'll take it off list.


Best,


Peter



On 13/12/2016 12:48, Phil Muir wrote:

Hey Pete.  Can give you a shout on Skype.  Just say when.

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From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
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Sent: 13 December 2016 12:36
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Using iLok

Hi all,


I feel as though I have wasted hours, perhaps days, trying to work out
how to use the iLok Licence manager.  I always end up getting sighted
help, but Slau has said that it's accessible. Would any kind soul be
willing, either to write a few steps to explain what to do when you need
to activate a licence, or if that's hard, give me ten minutes on
Facetime or Skype?  I'd be so grateful for any help.  I used to be able
to crack these interfaces but perhaps I'm just getting stupid.


Is it just me, and Is everyone else happily using it, or is it even a
tiny bit tricky?


Best,


Peter




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Using iLok

[Peter Bosher]

Hi all,


I feel as though I have wasted hours, perhaps days, trying to work out 
how to use the iLok Licence manager.  I always end up getting sighted 
help, but Slau has said that it's accessible. Would any kind soul be 
willing, either to write a few steps to explain what to do when you need 
to activate a licence, or if that's hard, give me ten minutes on 
Facetime or Skype?  I'd be so grateful for any help.  I used to be able 
to crack these interfaces but perhaps I'm just getting stupid.



Is it just me, and Is everyone else happily using it, or is it even a 
tiny bit tricky?



Best,


Peter


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RE: message to Peter regarding importing of files to tracks

[Peter Bosher]

Hi Slau,

Your scenario may have some bearing on the possible bug, but what I was trying 
to achieve was importing files directly as new tracks, without putting them in 
the clips list first.  It seemed that in this type of session, it was necessary 
to import at least one into the clips list before it would allow me to make 
them into new tracks.

If you would like to try to duplicate this as per your other message, then 
perhaps I need to get one of those example sessions to you for you to try out.  
If you'd like me to do that - it would have to be over the weekend - then let 
me know, and I'll DropBox one to you.

Best,

Peter


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Slau Halatyn
Sent: 08 September 2016 17:52
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: message to Peter regarding importing of files to tracks

Hi Peter,

I was stunned today when, after having imported numerous tracks to a mastering 
session, one of the files I was importing wouldn’t create a new track. This is 
the first time I’ve ever seen this behavior. However, I was able to eventually 
fix the issue. The only thing that I had done differently between the initial 
imports and the one that didn’t work was that I had done a search in the Clips 
List for a specific file. The only thing displayed in the Clips List was my 
search results. I set the Clips List to show all files and then I happen to 
hide the Clips List. After that, importing to a new track worked as expected. 
I’m wondering whether that might help. Let me know.
Slau

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RE: Import audio dialogue

[Peter Bosher]

Hi Slau,

I think this is a bug.  I showed it to one of the sighted Studio Managers and 
he could duplicate the problem without VoiceOver running.  The solution seems 
to be to import the file into the clips list first, and from then on, importing 
as new track starts working.   I’ll soon find out whether this is consistent, 
and at the same time I’ll check out your advice on dragging clips on to the 
timeline, since that would be another way to crack it – just seems more 
long-winded, but needs must perhaps?

Best,

Peter


From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Slau Halatyn
Sent: 03 September 2016 16:30
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Import audio dialogue

Hi Peter,
Now that I’ve thought about it a little more, one thing comes to mind and it 
may or may not be an issue. which version of Pro Tools are you using again? 
There are some versions that are limited to 32 voices. If you have 16 stereo 
tracks, that’ll add up to 32 voices. I’m not sure if it would necessarily 
prevent you from importing but I’m grasping at straws here.
slau

On Sep 2, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Peter Bosher 
<peter.bos...@bbc.co.uk<mailto:peter.bos...@bbc.co.uk>> wrote:

Hi Slau,

The example file I’m using is at a format which matches the session, so it says 
it can be imported directly.   Also, I’ve tried it with a few more sessions, 
and the method definitely works, in general, but for a set of sessions which 
were created with PT10, and all have sixteen tracks and one master, same 
formats and sample rates and so-on, it just isn’t working.

I might try deleting a few tracks from those sessions, but otherwise any 
further thoughts very welcome.

Best,

Peter

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com<mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
Sent: 02 September 2016 19:09
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com<mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Import audio dialogue

Hi Peter,

I’m thinking you might not have a preference or two set properly for importing 
and converting to session format. I’m leaving the studio for lunch and will be 
back in a little while. I’ll try to look for those preferences. In the mean 
time, take a look at the Preferences window in the various tabs to see where 
there might be some import preferences that’ll affect how files are converted 
upon import.
Slau

On Sep 2, 2016, at 1:36 PM, Peter Bosher 
<peter.bos...@bbc.co.uk<mailto:peter.bos...@bbc.co.uk>> wrote:

Hi Slau,

I tried the exact same procedure in a different session, which had only 3 
tracks, and it worked perfectly, so is there anything that might explain why it 
doesn’t work on this particular session, or any tweak I might try to get it to 
work?

Best,

Peter


From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com<mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
Sent: 02 September 2016 18:27
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com<mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Import audio dialogue

Hi Peter,

OK, to be clear, and then pressing the Return key before hitting the Done 
button, right? Selecting the file and pressing Done is not enough. If you’re 
getting to the dialog that asks where to import then it stands to reason that 
you’re doing the aforementioned correctly. Also, you’re sure that the track 
radio button is definitely selected? I’ve never encountered any problem with 
this functionality. Let me know.
Slau

On Sep 2, 2016, at 9:34 AM, Peter Bosher 
<peter.bos...@bbc.co.uk<mailto:peter.bos...@bbc.co.uk>> wrote:

Thanks Slau,

I tried choosing session start, but it simply isn’t creating a new track.   
While in the dialogue, the file plays when I choose ‘start preview’, and it is 
listed in the table as being selected.   When I press OK, in the destination 
dialogue, there is no error message; it just returns to the edit window, but 
there is no new track.  This is in a session with 16 tracks plus a master.  
I’ve done this before quite a few times, and usually, the new track shows up 
straight away in the track list table.  Any other ideas as to what may be going 
wrong?

Best,

Peter




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[mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
Sent: 02 September 2016 14:17
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com<mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Import audio dialogue

Hi Peter,

To get a detailed explanation of how the Import Audio dialog works, it’s best 
to read that section of the Pro Tools reference Guide. It explains everything 
pretty clearly. For now, however, what you’re doing is exactly right. If the 
Track radio button is selected, you should see a new track appear in the 
session. If you have selection chosen in the pop-up, I believe the clip should 
appear at the point shown in the Start field of the Edit window. Did you try 
tabbing in that tra

RE: Import audio dialogue

[Peter Bosher]

Hi Slau,

The example file I’m using is at a format which matches the session, so it says 
it can be imported directly.   Also, I’ve tried it with a few more sessions, 
and the method definitely works, in general, but for a set of sessions which 
were created with PT10, and all have sixteen tracks and one master, same 
formats and sample rates and so-on, it just isn’t working.

I might try deleting a few tracks from those sessions, but otherwise any 
further thoughts very welcome.

Best,

Peter

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Slau Halatyn
Sent: 02 September 2016 19:09
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Import audio dialogue

Hi Peter,

I’m thinking you might not have a preference or two set properly for importing 
and converting to session format. I’m leaving the studio for lunch and will be 
back in a little while. I’ll try to look for those preferences. In the mean 
time, take a look at the Preferences window in the various tabs to see where 
there might be some import preferences that’ll affect how files are converted 
upon import.
Slau

On Sep 2, 2016, at 1:36 PM, Peter Bosher 
<peter.bos...@bbc.co.uk<mailto:peter.bos...@bbc.co.uk>> wrote:

Hi Slau,

I tried the exact same procedure in a different session, which had only 3 
tracks, and it worked perfectly, so is there anything that might explain why it 
doesn’t work on this particular session, or any tweak I might try to get it to 
work?

Best,

Peter


From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com<mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
Sent: 02 September 2016 18:27
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com<mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Import audio dialogue

Hi Peter,

OK, to be clear, and then pressing the Return key before hitting the Done 
button, right? Selecting the file and pressing Done is not enough. If you’re 
getting to the dialog that asks where to import then it stands to reason that 
you’re doing the aforementioned correctly. Also, you’re sure that the track 
radio button is definitely selected? I’ve never encountered any problem with 
this functionality. Let me know.
Slau

On Sep 2, 2016, at 9:34 AM, Peter Bosher 
<peter.bos...@bbc.co.uk<mailto:peter.bos...@bbc.co.uk>> wrote:

Thanks Slau,

I tried choosing session start, but it simply isn’t creating a new track.   
While in the dialogue, the file plays when I choose ‘start preview’, and it is 
listed in the table as being selected.   When I press OK, in the destination 
dialogue, there is no error message; it just returns to the edit window, but 
there is no new track.  This is in a session with 16 tracks plus a master.  
I’ve done this before quite a few times, and usually, the new track shows up 
straight away in the track list table.  Any other ideas as to what may be going 
wrong?

Best,

Peter




From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com<mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
Sent: 02 September 2016 14:17
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com<mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Import audio dialogue

Hi Peter,

To get a detailed explanation of how the Import Audio dialog works, it’s best 
to read that section of the Pro Tools reference Guide. It explains everything 
pretty clearly. For now, however, what you’re doing is exactly right. If the 
Track radio button is selected, you should see a new track appear in the 
session. If you have selection chosen in the pop-up, I believe the clip should 
appear at the point shown in the Start field of the Edit window. Did you try 
tabbing in that track? By default, after importing, I’d imagine the clip would 
be selected in the timeline so the edit selection range should correspond to 
the new clip length. as a test, however, try pressing Return first (to get to 
the beginning of the timeline and then press Tab to jump to the beginning of 
the clip. As an alternative, you can try importing the clip to the session 
start instead. See if that works. If it does, You can simply select the clip, 
cut it and then paste it into the location you want in the timeline. Hope that 
helps. Keep us posted.
best,
Slau

On Sep 2, 2016, at 8:17 AM, Peter Bosher 
<peter.bos...@bbc.co.uk<mailto:peter.bos...@bbc.co.uk>> wrote:


Hi All,

I know we’ve been here before, and I’ve had it working in the past, but I’m 
completely stuck at the moment so please do help if you can.  I need to import 
a wav file into a session at the current selection on the timeline.  I go to 
import audio with command-shift-I, pick the file I need, choose ‘Add’, then 
Done.  This gives me destination choices where I pick New Track, and 
‘Selection’ as the location, then OK.   It simply doesn’t show up.  What have I 
missed?

I find that first dialogue quite confusing.  We have ‘add’, ‘add all’, ‘copy’, 
‘copy all’, ‘open’ and ‘done’.  If you could explain what those all 

Import audio dialogue

[Peter Bosher]

Hi All,

I know we've been here before, and I've had it working in the past, but I'm 
completely stuck at the moment so please do help if you can.  I need to import 
a wav file into a session at the current selection on the timeline.  I go to 
import audio with command-shift-I, pick the file I need, choose 'Add', then 
Done.  This gives me destination choices where I pick New Track, and 
'Selection' as the location, then OK.   It simply doesn't show up.  What have I 
missed?

I find that first dialogue quite confusing.  We have 'add', 'add all', 'copy', 
'copy all', 'open' and 'done'.  If you could explain what those all do, and 
what is the correct sequence for importing just one file, that would be 
wonderful.
Best,

Peter







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Re: Updating ProTools

[Peter Bosher]

Many thanks Phil, I was with you all the way, but it was when I clicked 
'show' that nothing appeared to happen, and I seemed to be going round 
in circles.  It's really helpful though for knowing what to try next time.



Best,


Peter





On 24/08/2016 13:54, Phil Muir wrote:

Log-in to your Avid account.  Then click on "My Products" and find the
heading that says:

  


"My products and subscriptions"

  


  Then you will find what subscriptions you have that are active then click
on the heading that says:

  


"Product Details and Download Links."

  


Just below that heading is a link that says:

  


"Show"

Click on the "Show" link and you should then see all of your Pro Tools
latest updates below as links.

  


   _

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Peter Bosher
Sent: 24 August 2016 12:13
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updating ProTools

  


Hi All,

  


It seems to me that, compared with updating ProTools, actually using it is a
piece of cake.   Seriously, I used to feel pretty patient and resourceful
when it came to navigating websites and update procedures, but I must be
missing something here.

  


I've wasted hours trying to understand the Avid site.  I signed in and found
"my products and subscriptions", but no way could I find the 12.5.2 upgrade.
Of course when I asked a sighted person for help they just clicked on it
straight away.  My question is, if you are one of those who is just merrily
updating whenever a new update comes out, do you have a relatively simple
procedure that you could explain?  And what, pray, is the Avid Application
manager doing?  Slau did say that the latest version is accessible but all
it ever seems to do here is upgrade itself, and certainly not give me
ProTools Updates.   Perhaps I'm losing the plot but please, does anyone else
share my mystification about actually finding and downloading the updates,
and can someone take pity and put me out of my misery for next time?

  


Best,

  


Peter

  


From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Shawn Brock
Sent: 23 August 2016 14:16
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updating ProTools

  


And here I am having just updated to 12.5.2 yesterday... :). For some reason
I am one of those folks who lags when it comes to updates. If I feel like
something is running well, I seem to hold off. Never updated my OS to El
Capitan. Not even on my mac which I am not running ProTools on. Though I am
always anxious to see what updates have in store. As well I feel like 12.5.2
seems to load quicker and run more efficiently. I should not have waited so
long to update. Guess I'm just like one of those birds you see on a
telephone wire. He finds a spot and feels good about it and just sits there
LOL. That's me.

  


Shawn, Bird On A Wire


On Aug 23, 2016, at 7:31 AM, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote:

There are a few features that I'm happy to see. I suspect it'll be coming
soon.

Slau

  


On Aug 23, 2016, at 7:17 AM, Rui Vilarinho <ruivilarinhomu...@gmail.com>
wrote:

  


Thanks, understood,, nice to know!

Expecting important new features and accessibility performance improvement
on this new version?

Regards, Rui Vilarinho

- Original Message -

From: Slau Halatyn <mailto:slauhala...@gmail.com>

To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 6:30 PM

Subject: Re: Updating ProTools

  


Hi Rui,

  


I have Yosemite running on the studio Mac Mini and El Capitan running on a
Mac Book Pro. The latest version of El Cap is technically not supported by
Pro Tools but it does work. To me, the issue of El Cap is more of voiceOver
sometimes cutting out and being unresponsive to the point where I need to
unload and load it twice in a row in order for it to come back speaking. To
be fair, I haven't seen that behavior in Pro Tools specifically but I'm not
using that machine for day-to-day work so I can't testify to its long-term
use. In general, however, the latest version will work on both systems and a
new version is expected pretty soon and I think it'll support the current
version of El Capitan. Maybe others will chime in with any other
observations.

  


Slau

  


On Aug 22, 2016, at 1:02 PM, Rui Vilarinho <ruivilarinhomu...@gmail.com>
wrote:

  


Hi folks, this is Rui, with deserved university holidays! grin .

Back to Pro Tools: I have until 30 august  to use a ProTools free update.

My actual setup is Mac Pro 6 core, with Yosemite  and ProTools 11 something.
Use a Maudio Profire 2626 and  Avid 11Rack interfaces plus  BCF 2000 control
surface. all works a charme, I only use it for music production therefore I
dont mind to stay with Yosemite, what are your thoughts?

And, concerning ProTools wich version do you recommend? Is it ok to install
the most recent one?

Regards, Rui Vilarinho

  



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RE: Updating ProTools

[Peter Bosher]

Hi All,

It seems to me that, compared with updating ProTools, actually using it is a 
piece of cake.   Seriously, I used to feel pretty patient and resourceful when 
it came to navigating websites and update procedures, but I must be missing 
something here.

I’ve wasted hours trying to understand the Avid site.  I signed in and found 
“my products and subscriptions”, but no way could I find the 12.5.2 upgrade.  
Of course when I asked a sighted person for help they just clicked on it 
straight away.  My question is, if you are one of those who is just merrily 
updating whenever a new update comes out, do you have a relatively simple 
procedure that you could explain?  And what, pray, is the Avid Application 
manager doing?  Slau did say that the latest version is accessible but all it 
ever seems to do here is upgrade itself, and certainly not give me ProTools 
Updates.   Perhaps I’m losing the plot but please, does anyone else share my 
mystification about actually finding and downloading the updates, and can 
someone take pity and put me out of my misery for next time?

Best,

Peter

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Shawn Brock
Sent: 23 August 2016 14:16
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updating ProTools

And here I am having just updated to 12.5.2 yesterday... :). For some reason I 
am one of those folks who lags when it comes to updates. If I feel like 
something is running well, I seem to hold off. Never updated my OS to El 
Capitan. Not even on my mac which I am not running ProTools on. Though I am 
always anxious to see what updates have in store. As well I feel like 12.5.2 
seems to load quicker and run more efficiently. I should not have waited so 
long to update. Guess I'm just like one of those birds you see on a telephone 
wire. He finds a spot and feels good about it and just sits there LOL. That's 
me.

Shawn, Bird On A Wire

On Aug 23, 2016, at 7:31 AM, Slau Halatyn 
> wrote:
There are a few features that I’m happy to see. I suspect it’ll be coming soon.
Slau

On Aug 23, 2016, at 7:17 AM, Rui Vilarinho 
> wrote:

Thanks, understood,, nice to know!
Expecting important new features and accessibility performance improvement  on 
this new version?
Regards, Rui Vilarinho
- Original Message -
From: Slau Halatyn
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: Updating ProTools

Hi Rui,

I have Yosemite running on the studio Mac Mini and El Capitan running on a Mac 
Book Pro. The latest version of El Cap is technically not supported by Pro 
Tools but it does work. To me, the issue of El Cap is more of voiceOver 
sometimes cutting out and being unresponsive to the point where I need to 
unload and load it twice in a row in order for it to come back speaking. To be 
fair, I haven’t seen that behavior in Pro Tools specifically but I’m not using 
that machine for day-to-day work so I can’t testify to its long-term use. In 
general, however, the latest version will work on both systems and a new 
version is expected pretty soon and I think it’ll support the current version 
of El Capitan. Maybe others will chime in with any other observations.

Slau

On Aug 22, 2016, at 1:02 PM, Rui Vilarinho 
> wrote:

Hi folks, this is Rui, with deserved university holidays! grin .
Back to Pro Tools: I have until 30 august  to use a ProTools free update.
My actual setup is Mac Pro 6 core, with Yosemite  and ProTools 11 something. 
Use a Maudio Profire 2626 and  Avid 11Rack interfaces plus  BCF 2000 control 
surface. all works a charme, I only use it for music production therefore I 
dont mind to stay with Yosemite, what are your thoughts?
And, concerning ProTools wich version do you recommend? Is it ok to install the 
most recent one?
Regards, Rui Vilarinho

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Control surface/audio interface recommendations

[Peter Bosher]

Hi All,

What would you recommend as the best current option for a control surface with 
8 main faders, including a good audio interface?

I'm looking for something that is similar to the old Digi 002.   I asked this 
question a few days back with no replies, because I needed to check that it's 
not possible to use the Digi with PT12.  Otherwise, a second hand one would be 
a good way to go, but I don't think there are 64-bit drivers for it, so, again, 
what's the current best option?  I've heard good things about the Avid Artist 
range, but is this the same kind of animal, and which one would you advise?

Best,

Peter

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Digi 002 or equivalent

[Peter Bosher]

Hi All,

Am I right in thinking that there are no 64-bit drivers for the Digi 002, so 
it's effectively obsolete in PT12?

If so, then what is the nearest thing, i.e. something which combines an 8-fader 
control surface with a good audio interface?

Best,

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Re: Editing problem, please please help!

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Hi Jesse,


There are three main editing modes in PT, and if you look in the edit 
mode part of the edit window, you'll see which is selected. You can 
switch between them with shortcuts.  These are:

F1 shuffle.
F2 Slip
F3 spot.

In shuffle mode, when you delete a section, everything moves forward to 
fill the gap.  This is what you say you don't want.
In slip mode, when you delete a section, the remaining stuff stays where 
it was in the timeline, so the deletion will be silent, and vocals will 
stay where they were.
In spot mode, I believe that you can specify a position on the timeline, 
but I don't know how that works so perhaps others can explain.


HTH,

Peter


On 18/07/2016 21:07, Jesse Kragiel wrote:

When I edit a track, say a vocal, instead of just keeping everything in
time, time is deleted from the vocal. For instance, if I'm trimming the
noise from the beginning of the vocal, and select from the start of the
song to the start of the vocal and press delete, instead of just deleting
all the data I don't want, it actually is moving the vocal back to the
beginning of the song, making it out of sync with the music. It only does
this in certain files, and others work just fine. What could be the
problem, and how do I fix it? Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
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Setting nudge value in version 10

[Peter Bosher]

Hi All,

In PT 12 it’s easy to set and check the nudge value, but in version 10, I don’t 
see the value in the edit window.  There is just a button called Nudge value, 
and when I click it nothing appears to happen.  So, can anybody remember how 
you set it in PT10, and is it then possible to use a hotspot to check it?

Best,

Peter

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RE: Editing and deleting markers

[Peter Bosher]

Thanks much Slau, I thought there must be a simpler way.  What would we do 
without you (smile)

Best,

Peter




From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Slau Halatyn
Sent: 09 June 2016 13:29
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing and deleting markers

Hi Peter,

Bring up the Memory Locations window with Command-5 on the num pad. Interact 
with the table, move to the marker number and do a modified click with a track 
pad. If your mouse pointer is not following the VoiceOver cursor, route it 
before performing the click. You don't have to control-click to edit a memory 
location, however. Just click on the memory location. Alternatively, you can 
edit the location without opening the window by typing decimal then the 
location number and Enter.

HTH,
Slau

On Jun 9, 2016, at 7:35 AM, Peter Bosher 
<peter.bos...@bbc.co.uk<mailto:peter.bos...@bbc.co.uk>> wrote:


Hi All,

In the shortcut guide, it says that you can edit a memory location marker by 
control-clicking it, and delete one by option-clicking it.   How do you 
actually find the marker with the mouse-pointer, in order to carry out those 
clicks?

Best,

Peter


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Editing and deleting markers

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Hi All,

In the shortcut guide, it says that you can edit a memory location marker by 
control-clicking it, and delete one by option-clicking it.   How do you 
actually find the marker with the mouse-pointer, in order to carry out those 
clicks?

Best,

Peter

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Option click

[Peter Bosher]

Hi All,

I think it should be possible to set parameters for many tracks at once using 
option click, but how is it done?   For example, I want to set automation to 
'touch' or 'read', not just for the current track, but for all tracks at once.  
I'm sure somebody mentioned option-click for this, but I've tried any number of 
combinations, including an actual mouse-click with option held down, and it's 
not worked yet.  So, what is the actual procedure for doing the option-click?

Best,

Peter

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Productivity tips?

[Peter Bosher]

Hi All,

After using PT in earnest for a couple of months, I'm now reasonably confident 
with basic editing and mixing, including things like inserts and sends and 
using some plug-ins, but I still find it way, way slower than using Sonar with 
Caketalking, and I'm wondering whether anyone has some tips to speed things up.

For example, if I want to know whether track 7 is muted, or check which tracks 
are currently armed, or the volume setting for track 12, or any number of 
things like this, I can do it with a couple of keystrokes in Sonar, whereas in 
PT, even using VO hotspots, It still seems to require quite a lot of VO 
cursoring around.

I've seen references to Keyboard Maestro.  Would that help with this kind of 
thing?  Could anyone give a few examples of tips and tricks you use to speed 
things up?

Best,

Peter

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Using the Workspace window

[Peter Bosher]

Hi All,

The sound effects library used in  creating audio dramas contains hundreds of 
gigabytes of material taken from hundreds of CD's.   The Workspace window is 
used to search through all those files, some of which have really unhelpful 
file names, so it's vital to use the meta-data for searching.  I have two 
questions:

In PT version 12, I can use the Workspace window to carry out a search, and 
then look through the list of results, click on an item, then on 'audition' to 
hear them.  Now, if I find one I want, the only way I know to bring it into the 
session is by doing VO-Shift-M for its context menu, then 'reveal in Finder'.   
Then I can use 'import audio' to find the file and bring it in.  This seems a 
bit clunky, though it does work, and this in itself is progress as it's taken 
me a while to get this far.  So, first question, is there an easier way to 
bring a file into a session from the Workspace results?

Second question:  in PT version 10, the Workspace seems to me to be completely 
inaccessible.   There are what seem like hundreds of buttons, which VO speaks 
as 'equals' or 'less than', and a large number of lists and text fields with no 
identification to say what they are for.  So, was anybody ever able to use the 
Workspace in version 10?  If so, any tips?

Best,

Peter

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RE: Selecting in clips table

[Peter Bosher]

Hi Slau and thanks as ever, both those editing options are checked, as well as 
the relevant ones in the Options menu for selection following time line.  I'll 
just have one more go at explaining the problem:

Starting with nothing selected, in a session where there are a series of clips, 
all on one track, in sequence along the time line. I go into the clips table, 
and identify the clip I need.  It's a virgin clip with no editing yet.  I hit 
VO-space on it, and VO now reports that it's selected.  If I stop interacting 
with the table, VO still reports the selection, e.g. row 79 of 83.   But the 
selection start point hasn't moved from where it was, and I have no way to hear 
that clip, or move to it in the time line.

This procedure worked fine on a PT10 machine, with the same session and same 
preferences.   Is there any obvious step I'm missing, or another way round?  
It's looking like a sticking point at the moment so I really need to sort it 
somehow.

Best,

Peter

-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Slau Halatyn
Sent: 26 April 2016 14:49
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Selecting in clips table

Hi Peter,

In the Editing tab of the Preferences window, make sure the first two 
checkboxes are checked. This will ensure that anything selected in either the 
timeline or the clips list will be mutually affected.

Here's one important thing to consider. When you have a clip that you've 
imported into a new track in a session or even an existing clip that was 
recorded within the timeline, as soon as you make one edit, Pro Tools will, by 
default, create at least one more clip in the clips list. Each subsequent edit 
does the same. this means that, when you select a clip that has been even 
slightly edited in the timeline (let's say you just trimmed some silence from 
the beginning), the clip that will now be selected in the clips list will not 
be the first one but, most likely the second or third one down (depending on 
how you edited the clip.

The opposite scenario is an equal consideration. In other words, if you have 
edited a clip in any way whatsoever, there will be at least two instances of 
the clip in the clips list. Let's say you click on the first instance of that 
clip, since the actual clip in the timeline matches the second or third clip in 
the clips list, selecting the first clip in the list will not select anything 
in the timeline because that unedited clip doesn't really reside in the 
timeline but rather an edited version of it.

Pay attention to the name of the clip and what's appended to the name of the 
clip. When there's an underline following the name, that signifies the 
chronological clip number as it was recorded in time. This means the order in 
which it was created and not the order in which it appears. In other words, if 
you start recording your first clip from the 3 minute mark and then back up and 
record a second clip starting from the 1 minute mark, the clip that appears at 
the 1 minute mark will have "_02 " appended to it and the original clip 
recorded at the 3 minute mark will have "_01" in its file name.
Beyond the underlined numbers, if the clip has been edited in any way, Pro 
Tools will append a hyphen along with a number to indicate that the clip has 
been edited. Let's say you recorded a clip and its name was "Vocal_01." If you 
were to split the clip in half, the first new clip would be called 
"Vocal_01-01" and the second half would become "Vocal_01-02." If you were to 
then simply delete a portion of the second clip, the remaining clip in the 
timeline would be called "vocal_01-03." All the while, a copy of each clip 
would reside in the clips list. If you want to cut down on the number of clips 
in the clips list, you can remove them by selecting unused clips from the clips 
list pop-up menu and either using Command-b or the Clear key on the numeric 
keypad. You'll have the option of deleting or removing. The ramifications of 
these various options are fairly detailed so I won't go into it here but, 
hopefully, what I've explained will help.

Slau

On Apr 26, 2016, at 6:51 AM, Peter Bosher <peter.bos...@bbc.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> I really need to find a reliable way to select a clip from the clips table, 
> and jump to that point on the time line.
> 
> On one machine running pT10 this is perfectly easy.  You find the clip in the 
> table, press VO-space, and that jumps you to the corresponding clip and 
> selects it.   All good, but on PT 12 machines this doesn't work at all.  I 
> have checked both the options "link time line and edit selection", and "Link 
> track and edit selection", as per a previous message.
> 
> If you know a way to select a clip, ideally audition it, and then get to it 
> on the time line, I'd really appreciate a

Selecting in clips table

[Peter Bosher]

Hi All,

I really need to find a reliable way to select a clip from the clips table, and 
jump to that point on the time line.

On one machine running pT10 this is perfectly easy.  You find the clip in the 
table, press VO-space, and that jumps you to the corresponding clip and selects 
it.   All good, but on PT 12 machines this doesn't work at all.  I have checked 
both the options "link time line and edit selection", and "Link track and edit 
selection", as per a previous message.

If you know a way to select a clip, ideally audition it, and then get to it on 
the time line, I'd really appreciate a pointer please.

Best,

Peter



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RE: Importing audio files

[Peter Bosher]

Thanks Slau, that makes sense, but it is actually possible to drag clips from 
the clip list on to the time line with VO?

Best,

Peter


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Sent: 25 April 2016 16:59
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Importing audio files

Hi Peter,

To avoid the challenge of dragging clips from the Clips list to the timeline, 
when you go through the process of selecting tracks to import, choose the radio 
button that specifies "new track" as the destination rather than the clips 
list. This will place the selected file into a newly-created track. You can 
further specify whether you'd like the file to be placed at the start of the 
session or the current location or you can spot it and define the location, 
etc. Once the files are in the session, you can cut and paste them onto any 
track. Hope that helps,
Slau

On Apr 25, 2016, at 11:52 AM, Peter Bosher <peter.bos...@bbc.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> I need to import music and other audio files into sessions, as opposed to 
> recording them as new tracks.
> 
> So far this seems pretty difficult.  I can use file import to get files into 
> the clip list, but how do you then put a clip onto the timeline on the 
> correct track?
> 
> Someone advised me to use the workspace window, but that doesn't seem 
> accessible, or certainly not intuitive.
> 
> Please can somebody advise on an effective way to bring audio into a session 
> and place it where needed?
> 
> Best,
> 
> Peter
> 
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Importing audio files

[Peter Bosher]

Hi All,

I need to import music and other audio files into sessions, as opposed to 
recording them as new tracks.

So far this seems pretty difficult.  I can use file import to get files into 
the clip list, but how do you then put a clip onto the timeline on the correct 
track?

Someone advised me to use the workspace window, but that doesn't seem 
accessible, or certainly not intuitive.

Please can somebody advise on an effective way to bring audio into a session 
and place it where needed?

Best,

Peter
 

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RE: Adjusting gain of selected clip

[Peter Bosher]

Hi John André

Many  thanks, that's really helpful.  A couple of notes in case it helps 
anyone.  To get that to work, on this system at least, you need to disable the 
Mission Control Shortcut keystrokes, even though it looked as though they were 
set to shift up and down arrows.

While exploring, I found that you can also change the gain of the selection 
with the mouse-wheel while holding down control and shift.  That might just 
prove useful.

Anyway many thanks again.

Best,

Peter

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Subject: Re: Adjusting gain of selected clip

Hi Peter,

While the clip is selected, press control-shift-up arrow or down arrow to 
adjust the gain. The amount of each adjustment is set in the preferences.

Remember, you don’t have to separate the clip first, just make a selection in 
the edit window and make your adjustments.

Best,
John André

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Adjusting gain of selected clip

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Hi All,

How do you adjust the gain of a selected clip, other than with a control 
surface?

Best,

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Re: Navigating clips

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Many thanks Phil and Slau for the tips.

Best,

Peter



On 08/04/2016 16:16, Phil Muir wrote:

Make sure link track and edit selection and link timeline and edit selection
are both checked in the options menu.

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Subject: Re: Navigating clips

Hi Peter,

I'm out of town and I don't have much time to give a detailed reply but here
are a couple of ideas:

First, make sure you check the option for clips to follow track selection or
something to that effect. It might be track follows clip selection or, in
the old language, region selection. This checkbox is in the Preferences
dialog but I can't remember precisely where. When you select a clip, it will
automatically select the same clip in the Clips table and vice versa.

To verify what a clip's name is, select it in the timeline within the edit
window and press Command-Shift-r which is the command to rename a clip.
You'll see the name of the current clip. Remember to press escape to cancel
out of the dialog. This only works when the Edit window is open and is the
frontmost window.

HTH,
Slau

On Apr 8, 2016, at 5:00 AM, Peter Bosher <peter.bos...@btconnect.com> wrote:


Hi All,

I need to assemble audio dramas which have been recorded as separate

clips, so for example a clip for each take, each piece of inserted music,
soundscape or effect.

I can jump from clip to clip with tab and option-tab, and look through the

clip list table to select a clip for example, but how can I easily tell
which clip I am on at any given point in the time-line, or jump the
insertion point to a clip from the clip list?   Any tips on the best
approach for this scenario?

Best,

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Navigating clips

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Hi All,

I need to assemble audio dramas which have been recorded as separate 
clips, so for example a clip for each take, each piece of inserted 
music, soundscape or effect.


I can jump from clip to clip with tab and option-tab, and look through 
the clip list table to select a clip for example, but how can I easily 
tell which clip I am on at any given point in the time-line, or jump the 
insertion point to a clip from the clip list?   Any tips on the best 
approach for this scenario?


Best,

Peter

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Re: Pre/post-roll

[Peter Bosher]

, the 
point is that I always forget the shortcuts but, when you have a selection, it 
takes literally two seconds to try a couple of combinations of shortcuts and it 
all comes back to you while you're doing it. Good luck trying to remember the 
exact shortcuts when you're away from the computer. Sure, you'll remember it 
for a day but give it a little time and you'll likely forget.

Hope that all helps,
Slau
boundary.
On Mar 24, 2016, at 10:49 AM, Peter Bosher <peter.bos...@btconnect.com> wrote:


Hi Slau, many thanks.   That worked and I'm nearly there with the whole process 
but one thing is still puzzling me, so one more, hopefully last question please:

Once the pre and post-roll values are set, I can audition just the pre-roll 
with option-left-arrow.  This means I can set the in-point precisely.  So far 
so good, but when I try to adjust the out-point with plus and minus, the whole 
selection moves rather than just the out-point as I want.   I can audition the 
out-point with command-right-arrow, but I can't seem to set the out-point 
independently of the in-point.  I could work around this with markers and 
regions but I imagine I'm just missing something basic in the process.  I'm 
migrating from SoundForge where it was possible to switch between hearing from 
the cursor, or from the start of the selection, so you could easily audition 
the end of the selection before marking the out-point.

It's pretty hard putting this into words so I hope you get my drift, and I 
really do appreciate your help.

Best,

Peter
.

On 22/03/2016 16:34, Slau Halatyn wrote:

Hi Peter,

To set the pre or post roll value, go to the Transport window and find the pre 
or post roll value and use Control-Option-space to click. Then enter the new 
value and press Enter. You must type the value on the numeric keypad and 
starting with the first number. In other words, if you want to enter two 
seconds, you must type a zero, then the decimal, then zero two. Unless you want 
smaller increments after the seconds, you can press Enter after having typed in 
the zero two. If you're entering bars and beats, you'd type the bar number 
first and then hit Enter. If you want a bar plus two beats as a pre-roll, you'd 
enter one, press the decimal to get to the next field then type two and then 
hit Enter. Remember that the decimal advances you to the next value field. Once 
you hit Enter, the value takes effect. To retype a value, click once more and 
enter the full value again, using decimal to advance to the subsequent fields 
if necessary.

Once you have both pre and post roll values entered, the shortcuts I mentioned 
earlier will work. Make sure you're in the Edit window while auditioning.
HTH,
Slau

On Mar 22, 2016, at 12:05 PM, Peter Bosher <peter.bos...@btconnect.com> wrote:


Many thanks Slau, that's already helped a great deal for auditioning the 
post-roll, but I've searched the menus for how to set the value of the 
pre/post-roll and not found it.  At the moment, command-left, option-left and 
command-option-left all do the same thing.  Is there a keystroke which will 
definitely play just the pre-roll portion, stopping at the point where the 
selection starts?

Best,

Peter


On 22/03/2016 11:31, Slau Halatyn wrote:

Hi Peter,

If you have values other than zero set for the pre and post roll, you can 
audition the ranges with keyboard shortcuts. Option-Command-left arrow will 
play the beginning of the selection including a pre-roll and 
Option-Command-right arrow will play the end of the selection along with a post 
roll. It's possible to play the pre and post roll individually using 
combinations of Option or Command and either the left or right arrows. 
Experiment by making a selection and using various combinations of Option-left 
or right arrows and Command-left or right arrows. You'll see how it works.
HTH,

Slau


On Mar 22, 2016, at 6:20 AM, Peter Bosher <peter.bos...@btconnect.com> wrote:


Hi All,

When making fine adjustments to a selection, I need to hear not only the 
selection itself, but also the second or two beforehand, stopping at the 
in-point.  This is what I mean by pre-roll, and in SoundForge for example, you 
can do this with CTRL-shift-K.   In PT, I see that I can enable pre/post-roll 
with command-K, but how do I actually audition the pre-roll and the post-roll?

Best,

Peter

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Re: Pre/post-roll

[Peter Bosher]

Hi Slau, many thanks.   That worked and I'm nearly there with the whole 
process but one thing is still puzzling me, so one more, hopefully last 
question please:


Once the pre and post-roll values are set, I can audition just the 
pre-roll with option-left-arrow.  This means I can set the in-point 
precisely.  So far so good, but when I try to adjust the out-point with 
plus and minus, the whole selection moves rather than just the out-point 
as I want.   I can audition the out-point with command-right-arrow, but 
I can't seem to set the out-point independently of the in-point.  I 
could work around this with markers and regions but I imagine I'm just 
missing something basic in the process.  I'm migrating from SoundForge 
where it was possible to switch between hearing from the cursor, or from 
the start of the selection, so you could easily audition the end of the 
selection before marking the out-point.


It's pretty hard putting this into words so I hope you get my drift, and 
I really do appreciate your help.


Best,

Peter
.

On 22/03/2016 16:34, Slau Halatyn wrote:

Hi Peter,

To set the pre or post roll value, go to the Transport window and find the pre 
or post roll value and use Control-Option-space to click. Then enter the new 
value and press Enter. You must type the value on the numeric keypad and 
starting with the first number. In other words, if you want to enter two 
seconds, you must type a zero, then the decimal, then zero two. Unless you want 
smaller increments after the seconds, you can press Enter after having typed in 
the zero two. If you're entering bars and beats, you'd type the bar number 
first and then hit Enter. If you want a bar plus two beats as a pre-roll, you'd 
enter one, press the decimal to get to the next field then type two and then 
hit Enter. Remember that the decimal advances you to the next value field. Once 
you hit Enter, the value takes effect. To retype a value, click once more and 
enter the full value again, using decimal to advance to the subsequent fields 
if necessary.

Once you have both pre and post roll values entered, the shortcuts I mentioned 
earlier will work. Make sure you're in the Edit window while auditioning.
HTH,
Slau

On Mar 22, 2016, at 12:05 PM, Peter Bosher <peter.bos...@btconnect.com> wrote:


Many thanks Slau, that's already helped a great deal for auditioning the 
post-roll, but I've searched the menus for how to set the value of the 
pre/post-roll and not found it.  At the moment, command-left, option-left and 
command-option-left all do the same thing.  Is there a keystroke which will 
definitely play just the pre-roll portion, stopping at the point where the 
selection starts?

Best,

Peter


On 22/03/2016 11:31, Slau Halatyn wrote:

Hi Peter,

If you have values other than zero set for the pre and post roll, you can 
audition the ranges with keyboard shortcuts. Option-Command-left arrow will 
play the beginning of the selection including a pre-roll and 
Option-Command-right arrow will play the end of the selection along with a post 
roll. It's possible to play the pre and post roll individually using 
combinations of Option or Command and either the left or right arrows. 
Experiment by making a selection and using various combinations of Option-left 
or right arrows and Command-left or right arrows. You'll see how it works.
HTH,

Slau


On Mar 22, 2016, at 6:20 AM, Peter Bosher <peter.bos...@btconnect.com> wrote:


Hi All,

When making fine adjustments to a selection, I need to hear not only the 
selection itself, but also the second or two beforehand, stopping at the 
in-point.  This is what I mean by pre-roll, and in SoundForge for example, you 
can do this with CTRL-shift-K.   In PT, I see that I can enable pre/post-roll 
with command-K, but how do I actually audition the pre-roll and the post-roll?

Best,

Peter

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Re: Pre/post-roll

[Peter Bosher]

Many thanks Slau, that's already helped a great deal for auditioning the 
post-roll, but I've searched the menus for how to set the value of the 
pre/post-roll and not found it.  At the moment, command-left, 
option-left and command-option-left all do the same thing.  Is there a 
keystroke which will definitely play just the pre-roll portion, stopping 
at the point where the selection starts?


Best,

Peter


On 22/03/2016 11:31, Slau Halatyn wrote:

Hi Peter,

If you have values other than zero set for the pre and post roll, you can 
audition the ranges with keyboard shortcuts. Option-Command-left arrow will 
play the beginning of the selection including a pre-roll and 
Option-Command-right arrow will play the end of the selection along with a post 
roll. It's possible to play the pre and post roll individually using 
combinations of Option or Command and either the left or right arrows. 
Experiment by making a selection and using various combinations of Option-left 
or right arrows and Command-left or right arrows. You'll see how it works.
HTH,

Slau


On Mar 22, 2016, at 6:20 AM, Peter Bosher <peter.bos...@btconnect.com> wrote:


Hi All,

When making fine adjustments to a selection, I need to hear not only the 
selection itself, but also the second or two beforehand, stopping at the 
in-point.  This is what I mean by pre-roll, and in SoundForge for example, you 
can do this with CTRL-shift-K.   In PT, I see that I can enable pre/post-roll 
with command-K, but how do I actually audition the pre-roll and the post-roll?

Best,

Peter

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Pre/post-roll

[Peter Bosher]

Hi All,

When making fine adjustments to a selection, I need to hear not only the 
selection itself, but also the second or two beforehand, stopping at the 
in-point.  This is what I mean by pre-roll, and in SoundForge for 
example, you can do this with CTRL-shift-K.   In PT, I see that I can 
enable pre/post-roll with command-K, but how do I actually audition the 
pre-roll and the post-roll?


Best,

Peter

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iLok and Keychain weirdness

[Peter Bosher]

Hi All,

Ever since installing iLok my Mac has become paranoid.   If I open 
Safari, I get a message which VoiceOver can't see.  It says: "ComCenter 
wants to use the "login" Keychain".   This is pretty annoying.  Is this 
at all expected behaviour linked with iLok?  A second problem is that I 
am forced to enter a password and log in when I switch the machine on, 
even though log-in options say that I may log in automatically.   If 
anyone can advise how to sort these things that would be a bonus while I 
try everything I can, but I'd really like to know whether it's directly 
linked to iLok.


Best,

Peter

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ElCapitan

[Peter Bosher]

Hi All,

Thanks to Matt who replied off-list to my query about missing 
track-info, though it's not yet resolved,  but please could somebody 
just give me a quick steer on whether or not it's safe to upgrade to 
ElCapitan with PT 12.4?  Any down sides?


Best,

Peter

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Track info not spoken

[Peter Bosher]

Hi All,

I'm working through the PWS recording tutorial.  I've created a new 
session, and added an audio track, a click track and a master fader.  I 
gave the audio track a name.  So far so good, but when I interact with 
the track list table, none of the track info is spoken as it is in the 
tutorial, for example, it will say:

"column 1, row 1, 1 item"
I can move around the table and see that there are 4 rows, but no info 
at all is spoken.   What might be causing this, and what can I try?


In case it relates, I'm running PT 12.4 under Mountain Lion, and I do 
now wonder whether I should upgrade to ElCapitan.  Any thoughts on that 
too please?


Best,

Peter


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FW1884 feasible or replacement

[Peter Bosher]

Hi All,

My trusty FW1884 still works under Windows 7 64-bit running under Boot 
Camp on my 2012 Mac Mini.


I'd really like to use it with ProTools as a stop-gap, but I have a 
feeling it's just not possible.   There is no native 64 bit Mac 
driver.   I've read about booting into 32 bit mode to get the old driver 
to work.   I have stuck with Mountain Lion because I think that's the 
last OS which allowed booting into 32 bit mode, but even if that's true, 
would PT 12.4 run in that mode?


In short, please can someone who knows more about these things than I do 
tell me whether it's likely to be feasible at all?   If so, how?


Finally, if not, and if you know the FW1884, can you suggest an 
alternative that does a similar job from the likes of Digi-design, 
Mackie, Focusrite and so-on?


Best,

Peter

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Re: New to Pro Tools, so a few basic questions

[Peter Bosher]

Thanks Jesse,

I was just after the PWS website but I finally found it and am buying 
the tutorials.


Best,

Peter


On 22/02/2016 14:53, Jesse Kragiel wrote:

PT with Speech is the only one I know of, and I figure I'll just pester the 
list if I need more help.

Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 22, 2016, at 9:23 AM, Peter Bosher <peter.bos...@btconnect.com> wrote:

Hi Jesse,

Like you I'm migrating from Sonar.  I am just picking up on your reference to 
'ProTools with Speech'.   I've googled tutorials and it throws up quite a lot, 
but please could you tell me if there's one particular series of tutorials that 
you have found useful, and if so, where are they?

Best,

Peter



On 20/02/2016 22:54, Jesse wrote:
Hi! I'm just cutting my teeth in PT12, so got a few basic questions. I've
moved from Sonar on Windows, so not totally ignorant, but there are a few
things that I'm not figuring out easily.
1: How would we go about auditioning patches in Structure 2?
2: Is there a way to use Ilok without sighted help?
3: How would you change the default path of where sessions are saved?
4: Can the metronome sound be changed?
I think that's all for now. I'm going through Pro Tools with Speech, and
it's gotten me up and running. Been fooling with some projects I have
imported from Logic, editing vocals and such, and so far, it seems so much
easier than anything we've had before.
Jesse K

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Re: New to Pro Tools, so a few basic questions

[Peter Bosher]

Hi Jesse,

Like you I'm migrating from Sonar.  I am just picking up on your 
reference to 'ProTools with Speech'.   I've googled tutorials and it 
throws up quite a lot, but please could you tell me if there's one 
particular series of tutorials that you have found useful, and if so, 
where are they?


Best,

Peter


On 20/02/2016 22:54, Jesse wrote:

Hi! I'm just cutting my teeth in PT12, so got a few basic questions. I've
moved from Sonar on Windows, so not totally ignorant, but there are a few
things that I'm not figuring out easily.
1: How would we go about auditioning patches in Structure 2?
2: Is there a way to use Ilok without sighted help?
3: How would you change the default path of where sessions are saved?
4: Can the metronome sound be changed?
I think that's all for now. I'm going through Pro Tools with Speech, and
it's gotten me up and running. Been fooling with some projects I have
imported from Logic, editing vocals and such, and so far, it seems so much
easier than anything we've had before.
Jesse K



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ProTools 10

[Peter Bosher]

Hi All,

I'm starting a job in April where they are using ProTools 10.   I 
believe that version 11 was the first to be truly accessible, but can 
anyone tell me how usable 10 was, and, as I'm learning with 12.4, what 
are the most important changes in operation from 10 to 12?


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Re: PT 12.4 problem: VO not reading updated fader levels consistently

[Peter Bosher]

Hi Robin,

Please do you have a link for the ProTools with Speech tutorials you 
mentioned in your message?


Best,

Peter




On 01/02/2016 17:12, Robin Kipp wrote:

Hi Slau,
thanks a lot for your great response!
You were absolutely right, my clip and peak hold settings were set to 
„infinite“.
I made the adjustments you suggested and now everything appears to be working 
as expected, so many thanks for that!
I don’t recall explicitly changing those settings myself, but there’s a chance 
that I may have done this while following the Pro Tools with Speech tutorials a 
while back. Anyways everything seems to be great now, many thanks!
Best regards,
Robin

Am 31.01.2016 um 00:46 schrieb Slau Halatyn :

Hi Robin,

If I'm understanding this correctly, you're saying that the level changes 
periodically but essentially reaches a peak of -15. Now, if your preferences 
are set to have an infinite peak hold, that all makes sense. In other words, 
the value would change, in this case, getting incrementally higher until the 
highest peak is reached. I personally keep the peak hold at 3 seconds and only 
use the peak display to keep track of highest attained peaks. In the Peak 
section of the Metering tab of the Preferences dialog, the clip and peak 
indicator radio buttons are in two columns. I don't recall which is on the left 
and which is on the right but, at any rate, make sure clip is infinite and I'd 
suggest peak to be set at 3 seconds.

With that setting, your level meter will eventually go down to nothing or a 
very low value when there's no signal passing through the track.

Hope that helps,

Slau

On Jan 30, 2016, at 4:00 PM, Robin Kipp  wrote:


Hi all,
I haven’t touched PT in a while due to lack of time, but now I want to get back 
on track with it and improve my skills and overall knowledge of PT.
So, I downloaded and installed PT 12.4 on my Mac, everything seems to work just 
fine. However, I’ve noticed an odd issue in the Mix window when it comes to 
reading level meters.
I first noticed this when I was recording input from a mic. I armed the mic and 
checked the level meter, the DB value was changing just as expected. At some 
point I blew into the microphone in an attempt to make it clip on purpose. I 
then noticed that the value changed to -15, that’s where it then actually 
stayed. Even with absolutely no noise on that channel the level stayed at -15. 
At this point, I decided to press VO space on the level value, at which point 
it started changing again, up until it stopped once again at around -5DB. I’ve 
also observed this issue in a PT session, where the level of the master fader 
would be updated during playback but stop at some point (this doesn’t always 
happen at the same spot in the recording but at different times). Pressing VO 
space on it gets it going again for a while, but that would never last longer 
than a minute or 2.
Has anybody else discovered this issue? I was browsing the list archives and 
discovered that another person had a similar issue, which was caused by a 
floating window being in the way. However, I made sure to check that there are 
no floating windows in the way, the „Hide all floating windows“ in the PT menu 
bar is actually dimmed. So, are there any other known solutions to fix this 
problem?
Many thanks for any help!
Best regards,
Robin

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Re: Buying ProTools and iLok

[Peter Bosher]

Many thanks Robin, and to others

That's really helpful info.  These things are easy when you know but can 
seem very mysterious, and tips like that which can save precious time 
and money are one of the great things about lists like this, so thanks 
again to you and others for taking the time to reply.


Best,

Peter



On 29/01/2016 12:59, Robin Kipp wrote:

Hi Peter,
you definitely don’t have to wait until Avid has new iLok keys in stock. Instead, you 
could try looking around on Amazon, that’s how I got mine in about 24 hours. Once you 
received your iLok, you can create an account on the ilok.com 
 website and download the License Manager from there.
The License Manager is basically used to register your new iLok dongle to your 
account and to transfer new licenses onto the dongle, this is something which 
used to be inaccessible with VO but has fortunately become accessible thanks to 
the latest License Manager upgrade!
Once you’re set up with your ilok.com  account and dongle, 
you can either purchase PT directly, or you can get a free 30-day trial to get a 
first impression before spending the money.
Good luck, HTH!
Best regards,
Robin



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Buying ProTools and iLok

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Hi All,

I've been trying to buy a subscription to PT 12.4 on the Avid website, 
but this requires iLok details, and when I add the iLok smart key to the 
cart it shows as out of stock.   As I'm completely new to iLok, please 
could somebody tell me whether I can buy the smart key in a computer 
store, in the UK, or should I try  the iLok websited, or wait until it's 
back in stock through AVID.  In short, what's the simplest way to do this?


Best,

Peter

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Re: Pro Tools 10.3.4 Update

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Hi All, When I get my new Mac - thanks to all for advice on that - it will  come with Mountain Lion.  If I put the latest version of ProTools on  it, will there be enough accessibility to start learning PT, or would  it be better to downgrade to Lion, if that's even possible? Best, Peter At 13:57 14/03/2013, you wrote: FYI: Pro Tools 10.3.4 was released on March 11 and is available for  download from the Avid website. I haven't played around with it  much, but I did test it briefly with VoiceOver in Mountain Lion  enough to observe that the counters are still unreadable and the  pop-up buttons are still not labeled. From what i could tell, the  functionality in Lion remains the same. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google  Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,  send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit  https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. *** Peter Bosher, Email: pe...@soundlinks.com http://www.soundlinks.com/ Tel': (+44) (0) 1494 794 797 Fax: (+44) (0) 1494 583 146 snail:// SoundLinks Limited, 43 Broadlands Avenue, Chesham, Bucks. HP5 1AL England. 


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