Re: [Ql-Users] Stella

[Norman Dunbar]

Sorry Dave,  I seem to have an inability to use a tablet! The url was supposed 
to be:

https://web.archive.org/web/20050914114333/http://thgodef.nerim.net/qdos/stella/intro.html

but I suspect it's Arnauld's page on Thierry's site which you mentioned.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Stella

[Norman Dunbar]

You might have seen this, perhaps?

https://web.archive.org/web/20050914114333/http


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Re: [Ql-Users] QPTR

[Norman Dunbar]

Morning Wolf,

You mention,on the Web page, a readme.txt file for the qptr sources, but the 
zip file doesn't appear to have one in it.

Probably a minor oversight, but I thought you better know, just in case.


Cheers,
Norm.

On 15 March 2017 07:04:26 GMT+00:00, Wolf  wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>Tony Tebby has allowed the QPTR toolkit to be made freely available.
>
>I upgraded an old version of the source code to correspond to the
>latest 
>compiled version known to me (0.14).
>
>You can find it + the source code at www.wlenerz.com/QLstuff
>
>Have fun.
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] QXLDump utility.

[Norman Dunbar]

Thanks Wolf, I'll have a look at those classes. I'm not a huge Java fan, I 
admit, but I can sort of read it, sometimes. :-)


Cheers, 
Norm.

On 14 March 2017 16:13:06 GMT+00:00, Wolf <w...@wlenerz.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>SMSQmulator uses it's own driver, not the SMSQE one, for accessing 
>qxl.win drives. There are 4 classes (windriver, windrive, winfile and 
>windir). You could just port those to C++, without too much trouble, I 
>guess.
>
>Have fun!
>
>Wolfgang
>
>On 14/03/2017 14:55, Norman Dunbar wrote:
>> Thanks Marcel. I had help though, it's not all my own work, John Hall
>and Daniele Terdina pointed me in various correct directions when I was
>confused!
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Norm.
>>
>> On 14 March 2017 13:43:17 GMT+00:00, Marcel Kilgus
><ql-us...@mail.kilgus.net> wrote:
>>> Norman Dunbar wrote:
>>>> I'm playing with QXL.WIN files, again!
>>>
>>> I wanted to tell you that I recently read your QXL.WIN file system
>>> description and found it very enlightening. I have used the QLWA
>>> driver as a black box until now and it was interesting to read about
>>> the details.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Marcel
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Re: [Ql-Users] QXLDump utility.

[Norman Dunbar]

Thanks Marcel. I had help though, it's not all my own work, John Hall and 
Daniele Terdina pointed me in various correct directions when I was confused!


Cheers,
Norm.

On 14 March 2017 13:43:17 GMT+00:00, Marcel Kilgus <ql-us...@mail.kilgus.net> 
wrote:
>Norman Dunbar wrote:
>> I'm playing with QXL.WIN files, again!
>
>I wanted to tell you that I recently read your QXL.WIN file system
>description and found it very enlightening. I have used the QLWA
>driver as a black box until now and it was interesting to read about
>the details.
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] QXLDump utility.

[Norman Dunbar]

Hi Peter, 

This utility will be used to allow me to develop,  hopefully, a proper tool for 
creating, writing and reading qxl.win files from the command line, or, a gui. 
With hopefully being the operative word!


Cheers,
Norm.

On 14 March 2017 13:06:08 GMT+00:00, pg...@q40.de wrote:
>On 14 Mar 2017 at 12:24, Norman Dunbar wrote:
>
>> I'm playing with QXL.WIN files, again!
>> [Snip]
>
>I hope write access also becomes part of the playground ;)
>
>Peter
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[Ql-Users] QXLDump utility.

[Norman Dunbar]

I'm playing with QXL.WIN files, again! As part of something I'm working on, I 
needed a simple way to examine the internals of a qxl.win file in an easy 
manner. To this end, QXLDump was born.

At the moment I have a download for 64 bit Linux and 32/64 bit Windows only.

You can see a sample of my current win3 drive - which is a full set of the 
Sqlite 3 sources from some time back, at 

http://qdosmsq.dunbar-it.co.uk/downloads/QXLDump/win3.html. 

The file was created with a random selection of options! 

There is a verbose mode, not demonstrated, which hexdumps each and every block 
making up the directories, files etc - best avoided unless you are debugging a 
foible, or something similar!

The Read-me file is at:

http://qdosmsq.dunbar-it.co.uk/downloads/QXLDump/README.html.

The Linux 64 bit download is at:

http://qdosmsq.dunbar-it.co.uk/downloads/QXLDump/QXLDump.

The Windows download is at:

http://qdosmsq.dunbar-it.co.uk/downloads/QXLDump/QXLDump.exe.


No additional libraries etc are required, everything is in plain vanilla C++ 
with the odd bit of the STL thrown in for good measure - thats the Standard 
Template Library.

As ever, source code is available at my GitHub location, and will be cloned 
into the SinclairQL repository as soon as I'm happy with it. I have a couple of 
minor changes to make, but nothing spectacular. The source is at:

https://github.com/NormanDunbar/QXLDump 

which you can freely clone if you already use git, or, download as a zip file 
from this location: 

https://github.com/NormanDunbar/QXLDump/archive/master.zip


The utility allows you to dump out the following:

The header
The map
The root directory
The free space list
Any datafile
Any directory
Any single block

And most of the above can be accompanied by a hexdump - if you are brave.

Output is only to HTML at the moment and I have no plans to make it text only, 
at the moment - but if you have that particular itch, feel free to scratch it 
and add the required code to do exactly that. :-)

Have fun!


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Re: [Ql-Users] QL/E v3.16 (Codename "Snow white swan", Edition 1702) is out now!

[Norman Dunbar]

Sorry. Full stop after "Marcel" and not a comma!

Cheers,
Norm.

On 13 March 2017 13:58:06 GMT+00:00, Norman Dunbar <nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk> 
wrote:
>Afternoon Urs,
>
>I'm in full agreement with Marcel, I have not yet looked at any of your
>QL/E offerings *in any depth* , not because of any lack of interest,
>but because I have my system running how I prefer it.
>
>As for feedback, after many years of writing stuff in various QL
>magazines, and occasionally creating my own Assembly Language
>occasional eComic,in afraid that getting feedback is pretty much
>impossible most of the time.
>
>If not for George, keeping me correct all those years, I don't think
>I'd have had any feedback at all!
>
>Good luck.
>
>
>Cheers,
>Norm.
>
>On 13 March 2017 08:47:47 GMT+00:00, Marcel Kilgus
><ql-us...@mail.kilgus.net> wrote:
>>Urs Koenig (QL) wrote:
>>> Marcel wrote:
>>>> Good job, thanks. It just seems to contain so much software that I
>>>> can only briefly test a small part of it :-o
>>> Appreciate. Your feedback is the one and only since it was released
>>12 days
>>> ago. Plus my old Swiss friend Markus took up some of my work and
>>expanded
>>> it. This is another form of very constructive feedback.
>>
>>That is a sad state of affairs, I can imagine that quite some work
>>goes into these things. And I would have killed for something like
>>QL/E while QPC was still a commercial venture ;-) I guess the main
>>problem is that distributions are cool for new people to check out the
>>system and it's a very good base for starting your own system. But
>>most people hanging around here, me included, have tuned their boot
>>files for two decades, so to speak, and are not looking for anything
>>that is ready-to-run. I still think it's important to have it, though,
>>and would like to give it a more thorough go, but there are so many
>>projects currently going on, some even QL related, it's difficult to
>>find the time.
>>
>>Cheers, Marcel
>>
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL/E v3.16 (Codename "Snow white swan", Edition 1702) is out now!

[Norman Dunbar]

Afternoon Urs,

I'm in full agreement with Marcel, I have not yet looked at any of your QL/E 
offerings *in any depth* , not because of any lack of interest, but because I 
have my system running how I prefer it.

As for feedback, after many years of writing stuff in various QL magazines, and 
occasionally creating my own Assembly Language occasional eComic,in afraid that 
getting feedback is pretty much impossible most of the time.

If not for George, keeping me correct all those years, I don't think I'd have 
had any feedback at all!

Good luck.


Cheers,
Norm.

On 13 March 2017 08:47:47 GMT+00:00, Marcel Kilgus  
wrote:
>Urs Koenig (QL) wrote:
>> Marcel wrote:
>>> Good job, thanks. It just seems to contain so much software that I
>>> can only briefly test a small part of it :-o
>> Appreciate. Your feedback is the one and only since it was released
>12 days
>> ago. Plus my old Swiss friend Markus took up some of my work and
>expanded
>> it. This is another form of very constructive feedback.
>
>That is a sad state of affairs, I can imagine that quite some work
>goes into these things. And I would have killed for something like
>QL/E while QPC was still a commercial venture ;-) I guess the main
>problem is that distributions are cool for new people to check out the
>system and it's a very good base for starting your own system. But
>most people hanging around here, me included, have tuned their boot
>files for two decades, so to speak, and are not looking for anything
>that is ready-to-run. I still think it's important to have it, though,
>and would like to give it a more thorough go, but there are so many
>projects currently going on, some even QL related, it's difficult to
>find the time.
>
>Cheers, Marcel
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] German Minerva ROM

[Norman Dunbar]

I'm rather fond of the AtTiny85 myself, I have to admit. :-)


Cheers,
Norm.

On 6 March 2017 13:26:59 GMT+00:00, Marcel Kilgus  
wrote:
>Derek Stewart wrote:
>> I have had a Minipro TL866CS for a long time and works very well.
>>
>> It does have problems with very old eproms, not being in the Eprom 
>> Programmer Database.
>
>Yes, I had to disable the "ID check" flag to read one of my old EPROMS
>and haven't tried to burn one yet. Might try this evening just for
>fun, but a 10-pack of EEPROMs is somewhere on its way between here and
>China, so I probably don't need those going forward anyway ;-)
>
>Read out the some GAL16V8s and burned some ATTINY chips so far, all
>worked flawlessly. So far I'm a really happy camper with this thing.
>
>Cheers, Marcel
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Re: [Ql-Users] WXQT2 alternative?

[Norman Dunbar]

Hi Peter,

Maybe! My original intent was just to explore the qxl.win file. Then it got 
updated to extract files. I never intended it to do any updating on the grounds 
that a small error in my code could destroy someone's work. 

However,  if and when I get time,  I will look into it.


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Re: [Ql-Users] WXQT2 alternative?

[Norman Dunbar]

Afternoon all,

The QXLWIN tool never updates a qxl.win file. It can read and extract files 
from a qxl.win, to Windows or Linux (or Mac?) But not the other way around.


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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and a few more surprises

[Norman Dunbar]

And a couple of the pages have some hand written notes, mine! They may or may 
not be accurate, I can't remember, so take care if you follow them. As far as I 
remember, they refer to loading an index file, which the manual mentions, but 
doesn't explain. 

An index file us what the application uses to determine if this bit of the code 
is data, code,  config block, a pe definition etc. 

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Re: [Ql-Users] Email attachments

[Norman Dunbar]

Evening Christopher, 

On a Windows pc? Never open anything attached that you are suspicious of etc. 
In a QL, just have fun. I wrote a QL virus many many years ago when all viruses 
spread by floppy disc. I never released it into the wild. 

Many viruses, trojans or whatever they are called this week, are "invoices" or 
"bank payments" or "parcel delivery notes" in Word doc format. I always open 
those! In Libre Office, on a Linux host, running a Linux Virtual Machine as 
guest!

Usually there is a macro, set to run on opening the doc, and it's usually 
encoded. I have been known to take a few apart.

So far they are all pretty much the same, an http request is sent to a 
compromised server and an exe file is downloaded and executed.  Normally I send 
an email to the web site owner and the isp with details. They usually shut down 
the payload pretty damned quickly. 

Your Russian Web site could be another compromised one, the script kiddies 
don't usually host these things on their own web sites.

And you should see what details I leave for my passwords and usernames on those 
phishing Web sites. It seems that many of my private details have to do with 
their mothers sexual dalliances with camels

We had one at work the other day. At least 5 people clicked the suspicious 
link. It was a set up. The email had been sent to everyone by our security 
team. The link took the victims to a Web site  where a message advised that 
their details had been collected, they have made a huge mistake, and there 
would be words had with their bosses!

No, I wasn't a victim. :-)

And I have been known to keep the "Microsoft tech support" people on the phone 
for hours! At least when they are talking to me, they are not ripping off some 
unsuspecting person.

Mind you,  I wouldn't do any of the above with windows,  even in a vm!


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Re: [Ql-Users] Archive Database Internals - analyser and extractor

[Norman Dunbar]

Well, it seems that the 8 byte floats are not IEEE doubles then!


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Re: [Ql-Users] Archive Database Internals - analyser and extractor

[Norman Dunbar]

Evening John,

Aye, I seem to remember that the psion stuff was changing almost daily even 
while the ql was being put together, or did I dream that?

If the numbers are byte floats,  then this might be useful when I come to 
trying to work it out 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-precision_floating-point_format. We 
shall see.


Cheers,
Norm.

On 5 December 2016 19:46:55 GMT+00:00, jms1 <j...@supanet.com> wrote:
>On 2016-12-04 19:25, Norman Dunbar wrote:
>> https://github.com/NormanDunbar/ArchiveExtractor is all I'm saying!
>>
>> Except that the docs (TextTidy) on Dilwyn's web site are way out
>> of date. Better details at the above address, as well as a utility to
>> scan your databases and report back.
>>
>> Currently Windows only though, I've compiled with the Borland C++
>> compiler and there's a link to get you a copy, legally, for free too.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Norm.
>
>Norman,
>
>If I remember correctly the Psion Suite of programs were written during
>the time the QL was being designed, and QL number format was finalized.
>So they had to take a guess and settled on a known standard. This may
>mean that it is 8 bit IEE. It may be that it is a modified suite for
>another computer. The PC version was a number of years later. This
>explains why the number format is different from the QL for the whole 
>suite
>
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[Ql-Users] Archive Database Internals - analyser and extractor

[Norman Dunbar]

https://github.com/NormanDunbar/ArchiveExtractor is all I'm saying!

Except that the docs (TextTidy) on Dilwyn's web site are way out of 
date. Better details at the above address, as well as a utility to scan 
your databases and report back.


Currently Windows only though, I've compiled with the Borland C++ 
compiler and there's a link to get you a copy, legally, for free too.



Cheers,
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Re: [Ql-Users] Online SuperBasic Manual.

[Norman Dunbar]

In which case, you would assume he would notice? Surely?

On 7 November 2016 13:42:16 GMT+00:00, Marcel Kilgus <ql-us...@mail.kilgus.net> 
wrote:
>Norman Dunbar wrote:
>> It seems that from time to time your emails appear to be blank
>> replies. I've had a couple recently. Are you aware of this?
>
>I guess John's web-mailer generates HTML replies with a text
>attachment that does NOT include his answer. Then the list strips the
>HTML part of the mail...
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] Online SuperBasic Manual.

[Norman Dunbar]

Updated again today.

There's a new tool to extract all known keywords. Not much use I admit, but I 
needed it myself.

QPC commands have now been added based on Marcel's manual version 4.02 based on 
QPC 4.04.


Enjoy.


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Re: [Ql-Users] Online SuperBasic Manual.

[Norman Dunbar]

Hi John,

It seems that from time to time your emails appear to be blank replies. I've 
had a couple recently. Are you aware of this?


Cheers,
Norm.

On 7 November 2016 09:14:14 GMT+00:00, jms1  wrote:
>On 2016-11-05 02:37, RWAP Software wrote:
>> On 2016-11-04 19:09, Ralf Reköndt wrote:
>>> - Original Message - From: "Geoff Wicks"I am not sure 
>>> whether
>>> I was the writer of the tools that Rich refers to,
>>>
 Text87 was always the most difficult of the QL word processors as 
 no one has ever been able to unravel the file formatting.
>>> I will never understand, why Fred does not open this format.
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>> Has anyone approached him recently to ask about publishing the
>> information about the file format?
>>
>> I know he doesn't want to make Text87 freeware (you can still
>> purchase it from Jochen I think) but the file format might be a good
>> idea - assuming it isn't used in any other projects and that is
>> why
>>
>> ---
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Re: [Ql-Users] Online SuperBasic Manual.

[Norman Dunbar]

Afternoon Ian,

long time no speak!


On 06/11/16 13:32, Ian Burkinshaw wrote:


Where is you pdf regarding the Atmel AtTiny85 located for download.
Sounds interesting.



It's located on the Atmel web site. The direct link to the PDF data 
sheet is 
http://www.atmel.com/images/atmel-2586-avr-8-bit-microcontroller-attiny25-attiny45-attiny85_datasheet.pdf.


You can use the Arduino software to program the '85 but you'll need some 
additional board info files installing as per 
http://qdosmsq.dunbar-it.co.uk/blog/2015/09/getting-arduino-working-from-a-windows-7-virtualbox-guest/ 
- scroll down to the section on AtTiny85 Devices for the details.



HTH

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Re: [Ql-Users] Online SuperBasic Manual.

[Norman Dunbar]

The Online SuperBASIC manual at:

http://superbasic-manual.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

has been updated to correct a few minor formatting problems with the 
introductory chapters and the appendices, well, some of them.


I've also added in the descriptions of all the routines to be found in 
the truly wonderful DJToolkit (version 1.16) which Dilwyn probably 
thinks is the best QL toolkit of all time. ;-)



Enjoy.


Cheers,
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[Ql-Users] Online SuperBasic Manual.

[Norman Dunbar]

For those not watching the QL Forum [and why not? :-)], Rich recently posted 
this 

Following a lot of work by Norman, the community edition of the SBASIC / 
SuperBASIC Reference Manual is now available at:

http://superbasic-manual.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

There are some background notes which appear at:

www.rwapsoftware.co.uk/SBASIC_reference_manual_online

The sources are now on a Github repository - 
https://github.com/NormanDunbar/SuperBASIC-Manual, although it is best to fork 
this, make any changes and then do a fork request to get them incorporated back 
into the original.

Just in time for the RWAP Software 30th Anniversary too!

:D


Read the introductory notes first, you will learn how you can download html, 
epub or pdf versions.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Mail merge with Quill

[Norman Dunbar]

Yes, it's fine from home. 
Interesting article.


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Re: [Ql-Users] Mail merge with Quill

[Norman Dunbar]

Nope, still the same.  I'm getting the following text:

The web address you've requested isn't working
The web address you have requested isn't a valid web page.

Please try another web address or search below:


I'm at work, using O2 Web access on my tablet. I can see thepageifiuse my 
desktop and type the url directly. 

I'll try on my tablet from home later. Where I have proper Internet 
connectivity.


Cheers,
Norm.

On 5 October 2016 11:11:30 BST, Giorgio Garabello <g.garabe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>also with me.
>strange... can you retry?
>
>2016-10-05 12:09 GMT+02:00 <gdgq...@gmail.com>:
>
>>
>> > On 5 Oct 2016, at 11:08, Norman Dunbar <nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk>
>wrote:
>> >
>> > Unfortunately,  I'm getting a message that the Web page is not
>working.
>>
>> Worked OK with me.
>>
>> George
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[Norman Dunbar]

Unfortunately,  I'm getting a message that the Web page is not working. :-(


Cheers,
Norm. 

On 5 October 2016 09:04:14 BST, Giorgio Garabello  wrote:
>http://www.hunggartorino.it/ql/mail-merge-with-quill-a-powerful-feature-for-an-historical-software/
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Re: [Ql-Users] OT HD Recovery

[Norman Dunbar]

He said:


Sorry for the OT , about keeping backups there is still an incredible amount of 
people who think that hard drives are indestructible ( beyond the fact that 
making an accidental delete does not take much ) . I have a friend who has 
totally melted the HD of his laptop ( a seagate ) , I did some testing and over 
to smell of singed is not even seen by the BIOS . Do you know any laboratory 
that is capable , I suppose using an electronic functioning , retrieve data ( 
in particular this would be pictures ) ?


Thank you
David


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On 3 August 2016 16:14:18 BST, "Ralf Reköndt"  wrote:
>Ok, I can read every word, but do not understand anything ;-)
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: Davide
>
>> Scusate l'OT, a proposito di tenere i backup ci sono ancora una 
>> incredibile quantità di persone che pensano che gli hard disk siano 
>> indistruttibili (al di là del fatto che fare un delete accidentale
>non 
>> richiede molto). ho un amico a cui si è totalmente fuso l'HD del suo 
>> portatile (un seagate), ho fatto qualche prova ed oltre a puzzare di 
>> strinato non viene neanche visto dal BIOS. Conoscete qualche
>laboratorio 
>> che sia in grado, suppongo utilizzando un elettronica funzionante, 
>> recuperare dati (in particolare si tratterebbe di foto)?
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>> Grazie
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Re: [Ql-Users] Software Preservation Project - Tasks

[Norman Dunbar]

Dilwyn,

The link 
https://quanta.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/QUANTA-HELPLINE-07.pdf gets me 
to a security page telling me that quanta.org.uk is unsafe. It seems that the 
security certificate - SSL? - expired some 129 days ago. Is there ome one at 
Quanta who needs to know? 


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Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawal of my personal Software Preservation Project

[Norman Dunbar]

Whoops!

To infringe, verb. 
An infringement noun. 
Apologies.

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[Norman Dunbar]

Still a verb. It's an action.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/infringe

I wish I could get out of the sun! But it's too sunny and way to hot for a Jock 
like me!


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Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawal of my personal Software Preservation Project

[Norman Dunbar]

No, please don't shut up. Healthy discourse is good. 

I was attempting to say that comparing copyright theft to homosexuality was 
comparing apples and oranges. One is "inbuilt" and hard to avoid, the other is 
willingly done. They are completely different to each other.


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[Norman Dunbar]

The USA have a "way" of these things,  and always to their advantage. Much like 
the so called "special relationship " that exists between Britain and America. 
They take, we, suckers,  give. I think someone tried a similar thing as Disney, 
in the UK and effectively got told to piss off! Might even have been Cliff 
Richard, but I can't remember.

Infringement is what you do when you break a law, it's a verb. Copyright theft 
is the thing, a noun. But I'm not a lawyer, so doublespeak doesn't come easy! 

I agree that the lobbies have far too much power, and indeed, the "news" 
papers, but we agree that their imposed laws are wrong. We just need to get 
them fixed as and how we can, without breaking them, of others,in the process.


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[Norman Dunbar]

PS. When it was still illegal to be gay in the UK, my uncle had to hide away 
with his friends and lovers. He couldn't be open about it. However, his 
sexuality was not his choice, it was just how he was "built". 

Breaching someone's copy rights, is voluntary, and done pretty much knowingly.  
The two are not the same thing. Apples and oranges. As far as I am aware, 
nobody is dishonest,  because of their genes - much as some would hope to think!

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[Norman Dunbar]

Afternoon Marcel,

OK,  perhaps stealing was the wrong word, copyright theft is better as that's 
what it is known in court, I think.

The law is the law, regardless,  else anarchy results. But laws can be changed 
- 27Mhz CB radio in the UK back in the early 80s, same sex partnerships, then 
marriage, etc? 

And having had a homosexual uncle when it was illegal in the UK to be that way, 
I might have a better idea of it than you perhaps? 

Those laws are nothing more than the result of some fuck wits and their 
religious beliefs, based on a crap, contradictory, "holy" book, written 
centuries ago, edited by "The Church of Rome" in 325 ACE (I think) to keep the 
bits they wanted, and destroy the rest. 

They've had their way for far too long, but times change, people change and 
laws change, sometimes far too slowly. Women can vote in the UK now, but can't 
be (Catholic) priests - go figure, even with the sex equality laws. This is 
wrong, and needs fixing.

But breaking the law, no matter how silly one's opinion thinks it is, for 
opinion is all it is,  doesn't get changes pushed through. At least in the UK. 
Maybe Germany is different? I've not worked there for many years.

When I say "the law is the law" doesn't mean think it's correct, but it is the 
law.


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I follow the Raspberry Pi Foundation, it takes me back to my ZX81,  Spectrum 
and QL days. Everytime they do something new, there are always trolls saying 
"why isn't this free" or "why have you not done that?" etc.

No mater how good anyone's intentions or deeds, some small brained idiot will 
complain. 

Best they are ignored.


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Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawal of my personal Software Preservation Project

[Norman Dunbar]

Hi Dilwyn,

Don't feed the trolls is good advice,  in any situation. 

I have to admit to feeding the ones who come calling and telling me that 
Windows is reporting a nasty virus each time I connect to the Internet. Those I 
consider fair game,  and it's game on. I kept them on the phone over 2 hours 
once, posing as a 73 year old pensioner,  with probably the world's slowest 
laptop! 

Cold callers get short shrift, "sorry, I never buy anything, nor take part in 
surveys,  goodbye! "

Copyright, to get back on topic, is copyright, no matter how much it sucks, or 
that people have abandoned products, you cannot just steal (for that is what it 
is) some one's work just because you think it should be free. The law is the 
law,  no matter how silly it might be. Parking tickets or otherwise! 

There are lots of stuff I use in the Linux world that are free,but not 
everything. I know of Web sites where "free" stuff is available, but not for 
me. No matter how easy it is. 

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Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawal of my personalSoftware PreservationProject

[Norman Dunbar]

Try Clued Up Communications, London. That's where he's been since 2000. He's 
done a couple of java based sql databases too it seems.

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[Norman Dunbar]

Fred doesn't reply to emails asking about t87. I asked years ago when I found 
he was involved in Firebird SQL,  a database I work with, and write 
documentation for,  but as soon as I asked anything about his QL stuff, 
silence. Good luck to anyone trying. 

Cheers,
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[Norman Dunbar]

Greetings from Turkey. It's 45 degrees here and as a pale blue Scotsman, I'm 
f*cked!

Right, while I've never really bothered with the software preservation part of 
Rich's empire, I certainly do appreciate the hard work Rich puts in, and it 
sounds like it's having detrimental effects on his health, so my advice would 
be walk away, enjoy your health.

Forget the software.  My stuff that Dilwyn published years ago is free, will 
always be free, it's available from Dilwyn even as I type.

What I am concerned with, is data. How much data are held, locked away,in 
proprietary databases, word processing files, spreadsheets etc? How can we know 
what is important and what is not if we can't read it?

Arthur C Clarke, yes that one, once told me that he had many of his own 
manuscripts unavailable to even him as they were some old version of some 
software package or other, no longer available. (OK, he didn't tell me 
explicitly, he wrote it in a foreword to a book of his I read, but you catch my 
drift?) We need Rich's (and others) preservation of this software because out 
there, somewhere, someone might just have something of value thst they can no 
longer access. That's what is important. We also need new programs to access 
the data when a QL isn't around. QxlWin for example, Qstripper as another. See 
a pattern? Data rescue!

I've done quite a bit of work in the past for Rich's online manual. It's a 
thankless task. The autogenerated html is crap and entangled. It's not even 
legal html in places, I'm surprised it ever worked!  Harsh? Perhaps, but sadly 
true. The only reason it probably works in most browsers us the hops they jump 
through to cope it IE compatible Web sites of old, but for how much longer?

Rich's original manual,  in Text87 I think, is a prime example - we can't get a 
printer driver or extractor created to properly convert the text to legal html, 
or to extract the text somehow, while preserving or matting,  or indicators of 
same. I tried, years ago with blank files,  then some with plain text etc etc 
to decode the files.  I failed. 

Preserve software,  yes, but data are far more important. We need that 
preserving in readily accessible formats. 

I might get flamed, I might get ignored. I might even be right!


Good luck Rich.


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Re: [Ql-Users] Qxlwin - another release

[Norman Dunbar]

I've now uploaded the 32 bit Linux version of QxlWin.

My work here is done! :-)
Unless Dilwyn finds a break of course!


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Re: [Ql-Users] Qxlwin - another release

[Norman Dunbar]

On 27/06/16 16:58, Dilwyn Jones wrote:

Hmm, I seem to be failing in my duties. I am afraid to say I haven't
been able to break this version. YET, Norman...


In that case, carry on Dilwyn. I know I can rely on you! ;-)


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Re: [Ql-Users] Qxlwin - another release

[Norman Dunbar]

On 27/06/16 14:57, Norman Dunbar wrote:

Version 1.0.7
blah blah blah etc.


I've now uploaded the 64 bit Linux version of QxlWin. I will get around 
to a 32 bit version as soon as I can, but I need a suitable 32 bit 
Distro installing in a VirtualBox and I don't have one at present.



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[Ql-Users] Qxlwin - another release

[Norman Dunbar]

Version 1.0.7

A new installer and executable have been uploaded to the files are for Windows 
32 and 64 bit. Linux files will follow soon. Tonight most likely!

The new version:

* Allows the source code to be easily downloaded from the Help->About menu.
* Allows any file type to be saved to the host Operating System.

When a file is double-clicked on, on the RIGHT side of the Files tab, you are 
prompted to save or cancel. If the file is a normal QL file, you can save the 
file to disk by clicking Save. If you click Cancel, the file will try to be 
opened in the File Browser tab. It may not open if there are binary characters 
in the file, such is the case with Quill and Zip files.

This is necessary as Quill files, for example, or zip files, are both binary 
files, but have a normal file type. Executables, for example, have a different 
file type. These can't be viewed.

Other files, such as executable files can be saved to the host Operationg 
System as above, but clicking Cancel in this case will not attempt to open the 
file in the browser.


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[Norman Dunbar]

I've uploaded a new version for windows users this morning. There's a full 
installer if you've not downloaded before, and a bare bones exe if you have.

To save your bandwidth, just get the exe if your run the installer already, and 
copy it over the existing file of that name.


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Re: [Ql-Users] Qxlwin

[Norman Dunbar]

On 23/06/16 19:39, Derek wrote:


Great work, and multi platform is really excellent.
These days it's the only way to fly. After all, I'm a Linux user myself. 
I only ever use Windows at works, or if I absolutely have to do 
something with my wife's laptop - which has Windows Satanic version 
installed - 8.1!



I noted that you use Github, I wad going start QL software projects, like 
SQLite, GCC etc... Could this added to your Github.
They could be added to my git hub account, but if you wanted to do work 
on them, you'd have to fork my repository, clone it to your laptop or 
whatever, do work, push back to your fork, raise a pull request to have 
me merge it into my repository and then you would have to have a 
"remote" set up on your local repository so that you could then update 
your local from "origin/master" and push that back to your fork.


Simple eh?

You would be better setting up your own account and creating your 
repositories.



As I do not want to have lots of QL Gits around.

Too late! They are all over this list! ;-)

Speaking as a QL Git myself that is.


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Re: [Ql-Users] Qxlwin

[Norman Dunbar]

On 23/06/16 19:42, Dilwyn Jones wrote:

As I do not want to have lots of QL Gits around.

Regards
Derek

He he he :)


The same thought occurred to me!

Did you see any updates coming from Source Forge Dilwyn, or are you just 
getting these QL Users List emails from me?



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Re: [Ql-Users] Qxlwin

[Norman Dunbar]

Evening All,

Michael Bulford's wishes have been granted.

Version 1.05 has been uploaded for Linux 64 bit only at the moment, 
tomorrow I'll upload the Windows version.


* The previously open qxl_win file is re-opened at startup.
* If a text file was open in the file browser tab, it will be reopened 
at startup.
* To avoid these happening, close the qxl_win file before closing the 
program.


In addition, the version number - currently 1.05 - is now displayed on 
the caption bar.


I would like to be able to select the file and folder in the files tab 
to match the last open file, but at present, I've not been able to 
discover how to do this. I'm looking into it.



I built an installer for Linux 64 bit tonight. Interesting that the 
installer was 27 Mb in size even though the binary file is about 115 Kb. 
I decided not to bother with a Linux Installer!



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Re: [Ql-Users] Qxlwin

[Norman Dunbar]

Fyi: https://sourceforge.net/p/qxlwin/tickets/2/

Cheers,
Norm.

On 22 June 2016 13:09:11 BST, Michael Bulford <michaelbulf...@yahoo.co.uk> 
wrote:
>Hi Norman,
>
>A feature I would like to see in Qxlwin is this: When re opening
>Qxlwin, it resumes exactly where it was the last time it was used. 
>This means the last used .win file would be re opened and displayed
>exactly at it was before, and also any text file being displayed also
>re opened and displayed at the same position as before, etc.  I use
>Notepad++, and this does this - very nice.
>
>The windows installer works fine, but the existing files have to be
>manually removed, else it complains and asks for another directory to
>install to.
>
>
>Kind regards,
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[Norman Dunbar]

Drink taller? Deinstaller! 

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[Norman Dunbar]

Hi Michael,

I'll see what I can do re your request.

In the qxlwin installation folder there's a file called maintenancetool.exe. 
run that. It's an updater and drink taller.  It gets rid of everything prior to 
a new release. Uninstall would be a better name!

It might be possible, according to the docs,  to have it install an update 
rather than a wipe out prior to a new install, but I haven't tested or worked 
out how yet!


Cheers,
Norm.

On 22 June 2016 13:09:11 BST, Michael Bulford <michaelbulf...@yahoo.co.uk> 
wrote:
>Hi Norman,
>
>A feature I would like to see in Qxlwin is this: When re opening
>Qxlwin, it resumes exactly where it was the last time it was used. 
>This means the last used .win file would be re opened and displayed
>exactly at it was before, and also any text file being displayed also
>re opened and displayed at the same position as before, etc.  I use
>Notepad++, and this does this - very nice.
>
>The windows installer works fine, but the existing files have to be
>manually removed, else it complains and asks for another directory to
>install to.
>
>
>Kind regards,
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[Norman Dunbar]

Dilwyn,

Are you getting update email by any chance, not these on ql-us...@q-v-d.com,  
but from Source Forge?


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[Norman Dunbar]

OK,  final release for today.

Bug fixed, the device root was not in the tree on the files tab. If you opened 
a file or folder then you could no longer get back to the root. This is now 
working.  I never noticed it in all these years of playing with this utility. 
Sigh.

The file viewer tab now has a save button. Guess what that's for!

And just a word of warning. Quill files are type 0 and should open in the 
viewer, but they don't.  This is fine and is caused by the first byte of zero 
in the file terminating the contents. 

I'll get a Linux file up soon, but the windows installer is there.


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Following a brief chat on the QL forum chat line, last night, I've updated 
QxlWin again. Only for windows at present. (Early lunch today!)

The application now saves size and  position information,  the last file that 
was OPEN WHEN YOU CLOSED THE PROGRAM, and whether you used decimal or hex for 
the header details.

If you closed the file, then close the program, the last file will be empty.

If a file was pen when you closed the application, then file->Open defaults to 
that same file.

Enjoy.

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[Norman Dunbar]

Hi Dilwyn,

Let me know if you get any spam from the subscription. It will be interesting 
to see if the new owners of Sourceforge attempt any. The previous owners had 
far too many adverts etc. So far so good under the new regime.

You are my first subscriber. :-)


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OK,  I took an extended lunch and will be late going home tonight. I hope you 
all appreciate it! :-)

Dilwyn request has been granted. Double clicking a folder on the right will 
make it the current folder without displaying an error message.

Also, the fonts drop down on the view file tab now only lists those fonts in 
your system which are monospaced.

There's a news page now as well, https://sourceforge.net/projects/qxlwin/news 
where details of updates will be posted. I think you can subscribe to follow 
this on the home page by ticking the "get notifications ..." option then 
clicking follow. Don't tick the other box! This is in the grey box with a 
yellow banner marked "Keep me updated".

Enjoy.

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Hi Dilwyn,

I it shouldn't be showing folders on the right only files. I'll fix it.

The folders appear on the left and are clickable. 

I need a longer lunch break!


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This is now fixed. 
Files that have silly name sizes are ignored as they are obviously not valid.
Files that have a name of exactly 36 characters are also now, dealt with 
properly.

A new installer has been uploaded.

Cheers,
Norm.

On 20 June 2016 12:41:36 BST, Norman Dunbar <nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk> wrote:
>Aye, I've tested that here and it seg faults.
>The reason being there is a file or directory which has a name length
>of 13,728 and another of 64,528. I was ure we only allowed 36
>characters!
>
>It's fine on all my own win files, so these failing ones are definitely
>broken by the look of things.
>
>I'll add a check for "silly" lengths and ignore them.
>
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Aye, I've tested that here and it seg faults.
The reason being there is a file or directory which has a name length of 13,728 
and another of 64,528. I was ure we only allowed 36 characters!

It's fine on all my own win files, so these failing ones are definitely broken 
by the look of things.

I'll add a check for "silly" lengths and ignore them.

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[Ql-Users] Qxlwin new windows installer

[Norman Dunbar]

I've now managed to upload a proper windows installer for qxlwin,


https://sourceforge.net/projects/qxlwin/files.

Pick windows etc.

Instructions are at http://sourceforge.net/p/qxlwin/wiki/Home

Hopefully this just works now.


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[Ql-Users] Qxlwin

[Norman Dunbar]

The qwindows.dll that was uploaded earlier should, contrary to what I said 
Earley,  go into a "platforms" folder located beneath the one where the 
application and the other dlls go.

Let me know how you get on and I'll update the docs, thanks.


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On 18/06/16 12:37, Michael Bulford wrote:

Hi Norm,
I think I'll wait .. there appears to be something wrong with this download.The 
file seems much bigger than advertised.


Right then it seems that this is more complicated on Windows than it 
needs to be.


I've uploaded the correct qwindows.dll to 
https://sourceforge.net/projects/qxlwin/files/Windows%2032-64bit/ so you 
will need to go there and fetch it.


In your QxlWin application directory, create a new directory called plugins.

Within this new directory, create a new directory called platforms.

Save the qwindows.dll in there.


Now it should work. The problem I have in testing with a completely bare 
CMD session, is that no matter whet I did, with or without that file 
present or not, it simply worked.


There's no Windows around here that has not got Qt installed (I only 
have it in a VM these days) so I'm unable to test this. From the docs on 
the Qt web site, it needs to be in the application/plugins/platforms folder.


Why they make this complicated I don't know, it was never like this on 
the previous versions.


Good luck. Let me know how you get on.


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[Norman Dunbar]

On 18/06/16 08:58, Derek Stewart wrote:


Do you have a Linux version.



We now have a 64 bit Linux version ready for download.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/qxlwin/files/Linux%2064bit/


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[Norman Dunbar]

Hi Derek,

QT source code is available for download,  so porting could be done. However, 
it's written in C++ as opposed to plain C, so we would need to port gcc or g++ 
first.

I suspect it's a non starter.


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Re: [Ql-Users] More Help Please

[Norman Dunbar]

Hi Dilwyn, 

that's how windows works. Linux too. 

These are shared libraries that are not statically linked to the application. 
So if I was to upgrade Qstripper to use the latest version of QT,  then those 
same shared files can now be used by both applications. 

Many years ago, the best C and C++ compiler was Borland.  Microsoft advertised 
their compiler, as producing far smaller executables than everyone else. This 
was true. However what they neglected to mention was that all the shared 
libraries were already installed on windows as part of the OS. Which they are 
not, technically.

All the other compiler vendors had to ship their files with their executables,  
making the install much bigger.

HTH

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Probably wise!
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[Norman Dunbar]

Hi Derek,

I wrote it on Linux originally but the code compiles for windows too without 
any changes. I'll try and upload a Linux version ASAP.  I didn't get time today 
and I am away tomorrow. Probably Monday. 

The windows version is missing a file qwindows.dll. so that won't work on 
windows or wine at the moment.

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Re: [Ql-Users] More Help Please

[Norman Dunbar]

Alternatively, this might work...If you can't wait! ;-)

http://api.256file.com/qwindows.dll/en-download-59653.html

Save it in the same folder as the rest of the files.

But for goodness sake, virus scan it first. This is Windows after all!


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Re: [Ql-Users] More Help Please

[Norman Dunbar]

OK,  success!

It seems that a dll named qwindows.dll is also needed for QT applications these 
days. Not only that,  when I tested today in a blank directory with nothing on 
PATH at all, it still worked fine. Hmm.

Il get that uploaded ASAP.  Probably Monday now though, I don't have Windows at 
home unless I have a VM for VirtualBox somewhere. I'll have a look tomorrow.

Sorry about that.

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Re: [Ql-Users] More Help Please

[Norman Dunbar]

Hi Michael,

Exercise! Damned spell chequer! That should be exe file! :-)

Interesting. The error message doesn't even appear to be in English, but I'll 
see if I can find anything related.

The application  is 32 bit so should work on 32 and 64 bit systems. You are 
running it on windows I assume? 

I built it on 64 bit windows 7 using the 32 bit QT system. You need to have all 
those dlls from the support files in either the same folder as the Qxlwin.exe, 
or, on the PATH somewhere. 

Leave it with me.


Cheers,
Norm.



On 17 June 2016 16:16:48 BST, Michael Bulford <michaelbulf...@yahoo.co.uk> 
wrote:
>Norm,
>
>I've followed your instructions down to Double click the exercise file
>to run.
>Then the following messages appear ...
>
>This application failed to start because it could not find or load the
>Qt platform plugin "windows" in "".
>Reinstalling the application may fix this problem.
>
>This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an
>unusual way.
>Please contact the application's support team for more information.
>
>Michael
>
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: Norman Dunbar <nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk>
>To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
>Sent: Friday, 17 June 2016, 14:03
>Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] More Help Please
>
>OK,  lunchtime!
>
>I've uploaded a 32 bit windows binary to
>https://sourceforge.net/projects/qxlwin/.
>
>1. Click on the files tab.
>2. Click on Windows 32-64bit.
>3. Click on Qxlwin.Zip to download.
>4. Click parent folder.
>5. Click QT5SupportFiles.
>6. Click QR5SUPPORTFILES.zip to download.
>
>Create a folder, call it c:\qxlwin. Extract both zip files into that
>location.
>Double click the exercise file to run.
>File->Open and select your qxlwin file.
>
>The Header tab displays details of the file. Numbers are in hex or
>decimal. Change with the two buttons at the bottom.
>
>Map displays the map. Not likely to be helpful.
>
>Files displays the entire structure of the directory tree. It's windows
>explorer for qxlwin files.
>
>File Viewer is just that. Double click  file in the Files tab to
>display it here. 
>
>I haven't looked at this utility since 2012 but I'm sure you can copy
>the text of a file in the viewer to save it as a PC file. Beware of ql
>to PC character conversion though.
>
>HTH.
>
>
>Cheers,
>Norm.
>
>
>On 17 June 2016 09:20:18 BST, Norman Dunbar <nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk>
>wrote:
>>I have a utility on https://sourceforge.net/projects/qxlwin/ which
>>should allow anyone to extract any file from a QXL win file. 
>>
>>However,  I've just checked and it appears I've never uploaded a
>>compiled version. Oops!
>>
>>Like qstripper, it runs on Linux, Windows and if you have QT, on Mac
>if
>>you compile the source yourself.
>>
>>I'll try to get a compiled version uploaded ASAP. 
>>
>>
>>Cheers,
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PS. I'm at work. I didn't have a qxlwin file to test with and the QPC demo is 
blocked by our thought police software.

Let me know if you have problems or foibles.

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Re: [Ql-Users] More Help Please

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OK,  lunchtime!

I've uploaded a 32 bit windows binary to 
https://sourceforge.net/projects/qxlwin/.

1. Click on the files tab.
2. Click on Windows 32-64bit.
3. Click on Qxlwin.Zip to download.
4. Click parent folder.
5. Click QT5SupportFiles.
6. Click QR5SUPPORTFILES.zip to download.

Create a folder, call it c:\qxlwin. Extract both zip files into that location.
Double click the exercise file to run.
File->Open and select your qxlwin file.

The Header tab displays details of the file. Numbers are in hex or decimal. 
Change with the two buttons at the bottom.

Map displays the map. Not likely to be helpful.

Files displays the entire structure of the directory tree. It's windows 
explorer for qxlwin files.

File Viewer is just that. Double click  file in the Files tab to display it 
here. 

I haven't looked at this utility since 2012 but I'm sure you can copy the text 
of a file in the viewer to save it as a PC file. Beware of ql to PC character 
conversion though.

HTH.


Cheers,
Norm.


On 17 June 2016 09:20:18 BST, Norman Dunbar <nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk> wrote:
>I have a utility on https://sourceforge.net/projects/qxlwin/ which
>should allow anyone to extract any file from a QXL win file. 
>
>However,  I've just checked and it appears I've never uploaded a
>compiled version. Oops!
>
>Like qstripper, it runs on Linux, Windows and if you have QT, on Mac if
>you compile the source yourself.
>
>I'll try to get a compiled version uploaded ASAP. 
>
>
>Cheers,
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Re: [Ql-Users] More Help Please

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I have a utility on https://sourceforge.net/projects/qxlwin/ which should allow 
anyone to extract any file from a QXL win file. 

However,  I've just checked and it appears I've never uploaded a compiled 
version. Oops!

Like qstripper, it runs on Linux, Windows and if you have QT, on Mac if you 
compile the source yourself.

I'll try to get a compiled version uploaded ASAP. 


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Re: [Ql-Users] A feature or a bug?

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Yes.

Cheers,
Norm.

On 14 June 2016 20:53:15 BST, "Ralf Reköndt"  wrote:
>Does this ommit TK2?
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "George Gwilt"
>
>> Using Turbo Toolkit’s DEVICE_STATUS might be safer.
>>
>> George 
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Re: [Ql-Users] A feature or a bug?

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You could use max_devs and dev_name from the truly wonderful DJTOOLKIT too, if 
you were inclined! I'm surprised  that DJ didn't mention it! ;)

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Re: [Ql-Users] Feature or bug?

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I'm not 100% certain, but possibly f$ is suffering from being prefixed by 
datad$ which obviously exists hence the line 30 execution.

I'm not near my QPC at the moment so I can't confirm. What do you get if you 
set dadtad $ to something like empty or even, something that doesn't exist? 


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Re: [Ql-Users] Help Please

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Hi Peter, 

Sounds like this is a pseudo hard drive file for QXL, QPC etc. You don't open 
it as such, you connect it to QPC, for example, as a hard drive on the startup 
screen. 

HTH

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Re: [Ql-Users] C68 arrays

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Alternatively, are you running through an array from 0 to 100 but comparing 
with some other element, say in a bubble sort, where that other element is some 
positive offset from the current index in the loop?

Been there, done that! 

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Re: [Ql-Users] C68 arrays

[Norman Dunbar]

Hi Michael,

Sounds like an off by one error.

Do you use for loops? While loops. Do loops? Etc to process elements in the 
array? If so, do you have a # define to limit the array index to 100 rather 
than using some embedded magic number? 

#define LIMIT 101
...
int index;
int array[LIMIT];
for (index=0; index < LIMIT; index++) {
do_stuff (array [index]);
...
}

And apologies if granny already knows how to suck eggs!

Somewhere in your code there's most likely an array indexing operation that's 
gone over the 101th array entry.

HTH 

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Re: [Ql-Users] ACOS_2

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Found it!

SQL> -- Without brackets. Value for A adjusted.
SQL> select power(1.414214,2) - power(4.242641,2) - power(2.828427,2) / (-2 * 
4.2426
41 * 2.828427) as answer from dual;
 
ANSWER
--
-15.68
 
 
SQL> -- With brackets. Value for A adjusted.
SQL> select (power(1.414214,2) - power(4.242641,2) - power(2.828427,2)) / (-2 * 
4.24
2641 * 2.828427) as answer from dual;
 
ANSWER
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Re: [Ql-Users] ACOS_2

[Norman Dunbar]

Hi Colin, 

Checking that values are in range in order to call a built in function,  
procedure etc is normal. At least it as been for as long as I've been 
programming - since pre ZX81 days. 

Even now I still check and this includes when writing code to run on my 
numerous Oracle databases - which today calculated VV to be 1 for the values 
given, with A corrected and parenthesis around the A^2, B^2 and C^2 part. It 
was well off without the parenthesis, but I can't remember the actual value. 
(15e-10 possibly, but don't quote me!)

Defensive Programming is what it used to be called, but in these days of 
"agile" (hack, spit) so - called programming,  it's probably not done any more! 

Og course, one could imagine that ACOS itself would practice such things, and 
it appears that it does, giving you an error when the parameter goes out of 
range.

HTH 

Cheers,
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Re: [Ql-Users] DBAS source code

[Norman Dunbar]

Thanks Marcel.
Sorry Bob, I was of no help whatsoever. :-(

Cheers,
Norm.

On 27 April 2016 14:52:59 BST, Marcel Kilgus <ql-us...@mail.kilgus.net> wrote:
>Norman Dunbar wrote:
>> Dilwyn has www.dilwyn.me.uk/database/dbas.zip which is version 2.12
>> and appears to have sources in libdbas_source_arc - I don't have
>> anything that can open arc files on my laptop here, so it might not
>have what you want.
>
>These are the sources for libdbas, the C interface library. Not very
>useful I'm afraid.
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] Today is a very special day for me...

[Norman Dunbar]

Enjoy your special day.

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Re: [Ql-Users] EasyPtr and me

[Norman Dunbar]

SETW is the program I was trying to remember, and failing miserably!

Dilwyn, sorry, I can't remember which edition of Quanta the articles were 
originally published in. I checked my ources and they are not Quill, nor are 
they Perfection. I have a vague recollection that they might be Write.exe but 
I'm not sure anymore. I thought they were Quill.



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Re: [Ql-Users] EasyPtr and me

[Norman Dunbar]

Thanks all for the birthday wishes.
It seems I'm not the only one with "leaky RAM" then, judging by the comments.

Could someone please put John Gilpin out of his PDF misery and feed the Easy 
Pointer Guide I wrote through QStripper and save the files as PDFs. The utility 
creates text searchable ones as opposed to bitmapped ones.

I would do it myself, but for some reason, I think the source files I have are 
Windows 3.11 WRITE.EXE format, and I don't have that any more. Or Word. Or 
Windows!

Thanks.


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Re: [Ql-Users] EasyPtr and me

[Norman Dunbar]

What Darren said! ;-)

A most enjoyable read, thanks Marcel. I might even take you up on the offer of 
EasyMenu 4 sometime, but these days I'm using George's not-quite-WYSIWYG 
assembly utilities. (Due to old age - 56 today - I'm afraid I can't remember 
the damned name of the utility I use! Aargh! Better book my  etirement home 
soon I think. :-(


Cheers,
Norm.

On 7 April 2016 00:24:03 BST, Darren Branagh  wrote:
>What an enjoyable read :-)
>
>Thanks for the memories mate.
>
>D.
>On 6 Apr 2016 23:44, "Marcel Kilgus"  wrote:
>
>> I wrote up a short tale about my life with EasyPtr. Plus there's a
>> gift at the end:
>>
>> http://www.kilgus.net/2016/04/07/easyptr-and-me/
>>
>> Enjoy! If not the tale, then at least the gift ;) Cheers, Marcel
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ/E boot sequence

[Norman Dunbar]

On 17/03/16 11:11, Marcel Kilgus wrote:


Actually I can tell a lot about programmers through the way they
structure and indent their code. Except the missing spaces in the for
loop in line 428 this is as spotless as I've ever seen it ;)


Are you sure you were looking at my code? ;-) (But thanks!)
I'll get 428 sorted next time I have a change to make.

Someone once said the same about my SupeBasic code too, I think it was 
my QSAVE'd file decoder, but I might be wrong. I think it's on Dilwyn's 
site somewhere.




Can't
even scold you for the use of strncpy as you've properly documented
it!


It's a well known feature/bug! strcpy() terminates, strncpy() might 
terminate! There's nothing like consistency.




Of course if C is the right language for parsing and emitting
text is another discussion ;)


In this case the utility was for an AIX Unix system with a pretty much 
brain dead C compiler and nothing else, so it had to be C.


Normally for parsing, I'd use ANTRL4, build a grammar and have it 
generate a lexer and parser then inherit the parser and build by 
"compiler" or whatever from that, in Java. Which I absolutely hate! I'm 
waiting for the C/C++ lexer/parser versions to come out, at the moment 
it's Java, Javascript or Python only.


See https://github.com/NormanDunbar/Tnsnames_checker for an even less 
interesting example!


I'm definitely not learning Perl, no way, not now, not ever! :-)


Cheers,
Norm.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Sqlite C library

[Norman Dunbar]

Now that I didn't try! :-)


Cheers,
Norm.

On 19 March 2016 18:22:16 GMT+00:00, Giorgio Garabello <g.garabe...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
>and using the gcc cross compiler?
>
>2016-03-19 19:15 GMT+01:00 Norman Dunbar <nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk>:
>
>> Hi Massimino,
>>
>> I looked at this some time back and found that the "all in one" file
>was
>> far too big for C68 to compile so it needed to be split back into its
>> separate parts sign and a make file created for it. And that's before
>> looking in the code to find out if there's anything that might need
>some
>> assembly conversions etc.
>>
>> Also, sqlite itself is in two parts, the sqlite utility which allows
>you
>> to create and interrogate databases fom a command line, and the main
>> library which allows you to do the same, but from inside your own
>> application.
>>
>> I haven't looked at it for a while I'm afraid.
>>
>> Have fun.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Norm.
>>
>> On 18 March 2016 16:26:00 GMT+00:00, Massimino Boccardi <
>> massimi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >Hi.
>> >Is it possible to recompile the Sqlite 3 library on the QL !?
>> >
>> >www.sqlite.org
>> >
>> >Regards,
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Re: [Ql-Users] Sqlite C library

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Hi Massimino,

I looked at this some time back and found that the "all in one" file was far 
too big for C68 to compile so it needed to be split back into its separate 
parts sign and a make file created for it. And that's before looking in the 
code to find out if there's anything that might need some assembly conversions 
etc.

Also, sqlite itself is in two parts, the sqlite utility which allows you to 
create and interrogate databases fom a command line, and the main library which 
allows you to do the same, but from inside your own application. 

I haven't looked at it for a while I'm afraid. 

Have fun.


Cheers,
Norm.

On 18 March 2016 16:26:00 GMT+00:00, Massimino Boccardi 
 wrote:
>Hi.
>Is it possible to recompile the Sqlite 3 library on the QL !?
>
>www.sqlite.org 
>
>Regards,
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ/E boot sequence

[Norman Dunbar]

On 17/03/16 12:09, Dilwyn Jones wrote:


It was slightly hacked by me to
add one or two SBASIC extras such as binary and hex constants, so it
might not be up to Norman's usual standards (I can't remember exactly
how many changes I made...)   8-|


I think, if I remember, that you fixed it for SBASIC's new hexadecimal 
and binary floating point values.



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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ/E boot sequence

[Norman Dunbar]

On 17/03/16 10:47, Marcel Kilgus wrote:


Not sure how much I'll really use the blog, but it might come handy
now and then, like it has now.


I use mine to make up for a deficiency in remembering stuff. I keep 
trying to learn new stuff, so the older stuff "ages out of the cache"!


I had to do some C programming recently, and I was completely unable to 
get started after "int main(int argc, char *argv[]) {" - I simply 
couldn't remember! I got there in the end - 
https://github.com/NormanDunbar/TraceMiner - but the C quality is 
probably dubious!


The link about will be of interest to even less people here than your 
SMSQ/E Boot Sequence post!


It's handy for me to have a blog as I can (usually) access it from 
whichever contract I'm working on at the time, so I have my notes with 
me. As ever though, you end up using it for many things other than work.


Enjoy.


Cheers,
Norm.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Instrutions for running SMSQmulator on Raspberry Pi

[Norman Dunbar]

Maybe it's your class path? 

echo "${CLASSPATH}"

Should show you where the java system will look for jar and class files etc. 
Look for "." which indicates "current directory".  The path separator is a 
colon ":".

You might get lucky if you do this:

export CLASSPATH=/home/pi/downloads:"${CLASSPATH}"

Also, what happens if you type:

java -version

Do you get a response?

Does the Pi user own the jar file?

ls -l downloads/SMSQmulator.jar

Disclaimer: I'm not a java developer, nor do I play one on TV. 


Cheers,
Norm. 

On 16 February 2016 17:52:58 GMT+00:00, Ian Burkinshaw 
 wrote:
>Hi Wolfgang
>
>Thanks for your help.
>
>Tried double clicking no luck.
>
>Tried the command line, again no luck get the error report 'Error:
>Unable to 
>access jarfile' then the path of the SMSQmulator.jar file which is 
>/home/pi/downloads/SMSQmulator.jar. Which I can see in the file
>manager.
>
>Tried with both with and without the sudo at the start of the command
>line.
>
>Clearly I have missed something somewhere.
>
>Ian
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Wolfgang Lenerz" 
>To: 
>Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 5:32 PM
>Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Instrutions for running SMSQmulator on
>Raspberry Pi
>
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> do not unzip the jar file itself.
>>
>> Just Double-click on the jar file.
>>
>> That should do it.
>>
>> Else, from a command line, type "java -jar 
>> >
>> HTH
>>
>> Wolfgang
>>
>> On 02/16/2016 06:14 PM, Ian Burkinshaw wrote:
>>> Can anybody help.
>>>
>>> Have installed openjdk7 and also java 7. All seems OK
>>>
>>> Saved and unziped the SMSQmulator file. and then the jar file
>>>
>>> Can see all the components of the java application, but canot see
>how to 
>>> run it.
>>>
>>> Ian
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Re: [Ql-Users] Fw: important message

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On 7 February 2016 02:45:25 GMT+00:00, renatobariga...@tin.it wrote:
>Hello!
>
> 
>
>New message, please read 
>
> 
>
>renatobariga...@tin.it
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator on RPi2 (Re: Tynemouth Software QL keyboard USB interface)

[Norman Dunbar]

And this, from 2014, shows how to install Oracle Java 8. On a Pi. 
http://www.rpiblog.com/2014/03/installing-oracle-jdk-8-on-raspberry-pi.html.


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Re: [Ql-Users] Assembly Language eComic - Issue 3 now available.

[Norman Dunbar]

Morning Marcos, 

I actually use LaTeX now and did do for the "book" and the eComic issues. I 
found it easier to write than DocBook even using the XML Mind XXE editor which 
is pretty good for DocBook. 

Strangely enough, I'm looking at Asciidoc at the moment but I'm only getting 
started. For html I prefer the output from the default Asciidoc over that from 
Asciidoctor but there's time to build my own CSS!

Pandoc I have used quite frequently to convert Markdown into other formats. 
Usually for my stuff on GitHub. 

Cheers,
Norm. 


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[Ql-Users] Assembly Language eComic - Issue 3 now available.

[Norman Dunbar]

after many months of the odd hour grabbed here and there, between work, 
driving, home life and so forth - did I mention Christmas, New Year and 
a holiday to boot - the latest somewhat exciting issue of the Assembly 
Language eMagazine is now available for download.


Point your browsers at 
qdosmsq.dunbar-it.co.uk/downloads/AssemblyLanguage/Issue_003/Assembly_Language_003.pdf 
(or wget 
qdosmsq.dunbar-it.co.uk//downloads/AssemblyLanguage/Issue_003/Assembly_Language_003.pdf) 
and all will be revealed.


We have 29 pages of articles on sorting data, printing multiple strings, 
a hexdump utility, all you never needed to know about using jump tables 
in your code, and and some information about upcoming articles on the 
(new) 68020 instructions available in QPC, but sadly, not in any of the 
other emulators - yet.


Happy reading and hopefully, the next issue will be out much quicker 
than this one!



Cheers,
Norm.
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Re: [Ql-Users] Emulators and 68020 instructions

[Norman Dunbar]

On 29/01/16 12:37, Norman Dunbar wrote:

Greetings all.

I'm in the process of finishing off the latest slightly exciting edition of the "assembly 
language e-comic" and I'm thinking of upgrading my code, from the next issue, to start using 
Gwass instead of Gwasl. I hope also to eventually cover the "new" instructions in the 
68020 processor.

I know QPC can do these instructions but are the other emulators able to?

Any advice gratefully received. Thanks as ever.


Cheers,
Norm.



Thanks everyone. I've assembled the information and the new issue is 
"out now" as they say!


Issue 4 is already under way - my wife has gone out to have some 
pampering done!



Cheers,
Norm.

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[Ql-Users] Emulators and 68020 instructions

[Norman Dunbar]

Greetings all. 

I'm in the process of finishing off the latest slightly exciting edition of the 
"assembly language e-comic" and I'm thinking of upgrading my code, from the 
next issue, to start using Gwass instead of Gwasl. I hope also to eventually 
cover the "new" instructions in the 68020 processor.

I know QPC can do these instructions but are the other emulators able to? 

Any advice gratefully received. Thanks as ever.


Cheers,
Norm. 
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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 <> W10

[Norman Dunbar]

On 17 January 2016 17:09:30 GMT+00:00, Dilwyn Jones 
<dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>Just to let you know Norman that some of us are getting duplicates of
>some 
>of your emails.
>
>Also, I've just been told that my own QL website seems to be down at
>the 
>moment - have advised my ISP.
>
>Dilwyn
>
>-----Original Message- 
>From: Norman Dunbar
>Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 2:48 PM
>To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com ; ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com
>Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 <> W10
>
>Hi Tim,
>
>On 16/01/16 20:03, Timothy Swenson wrote:
>> The only major problem I have is that I can't print to a printer
>> attached to a Windows system.
>
>just out of interest, is your printer USB attached or network? I have a
>very old HP Photosmart 2610 all in one and it can be USB or network
>attached, so it's on the network. All our laptops, our desktop and our
>tablets and phones (Android = Linux) are happy to print, fax, scan
>to/from it.
>
>I think, but don;t quote me, you need to make sure that the printer is
>shared in Windows if it's USB attached, in order to use it from Linux,
>plus just possibly, you need to have your Linux computer set up as a
>SAMBA client to the Windows Samba server in order to print.
>
>This might help:
>http://www.printmanager.com/cms.php?aid=82=1=8
>
>
>Cheers,
>Norm.
>
>-- 
>Norman Dunbar
>Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd
>
>Registered address:
>27a Lidget Hill
>Pudsey
>West Yorkshire
>United Kingdom
>LS28 7LG
>
>Company Number: 05132767
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>
>-
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>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>Version: 2016.0.7294 / Virus Database: 4489/11420 - Release Date:
>01/17/16 
>
>
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I'm replying to all, Dilwyn, I note that ql-us...@q-v-d.com & 
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com are in the recipient's.  Sorry.

I didn't break your Web site though! 


Cheers,
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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 <> W10

[Norman Dunbar]

Hi Tim,

On 16/01/16 20:03, Timothy Swenson wrote:

The only major problem I have is that I can't print to a printer
attached to a Windows system.


just out of interest, is your printer USB attached or network? I have a 
very old HP Photosmart 2610 all in one and it can be USB or network 
attached, so it's on the network. All our laptops, our desktop and our 
tablets and phones (Android = Linux) are happy to print, fax, scan 
to/from it.


I think, but don;t quote me, you need to make sure that the printer is 
shared in Windows if it's USB attached, in order to use it from Linux, 
plus just possibly, you need to have your Linux computer set up as a 
SAMBA client to the Windows Samba server in order to print.


This might help: 
http://www.printmanager.com/cms.php?aid=82=1=8



Cheers,
Norm.

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Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd

Registered address:
27a Lidget Hill
Pudsey
West Yorkshire
United Kingdom
LS28 7LG

Company Number: 05132767
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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 <> W10

[Norman Dunbar]

On 17/01/16 11:54, pjwitte wrote:

Of course the perfect scenario is not possible today (viz dream 1), but
it might be possible to come pretty close. Perhaps I should think this
through and do some tests rather than throw it all out here? But just
out of interest what dyall think?

A. A base unit sporting a widely supported Linux distro. Using a VM box
with W2k for running some QL/SMSQ emulator. A second VM running Linux or
some Windoze configured as unit 2, and a third VM for unit 3.


Sounds pretty much like this laptop I'm using now. It's got Linux Mint 
17.3 64 bit as the host OS, 8GB RAM and a Core 2 processor of some kind. 
It was the top of the range when I bought it, but about a week after I 
did so, the i3, i5 and i7 came out. Typical!


I run everything in Linux - email, browsing, Office stuff, PCB design, 
document processing (for the Assembly Mailing List etc), QPC, 
programming, Copying my DVDs to the network drive, ripping my CDs for my 
music player (Astell & Kern AK100) and so on. At least, it does when I 
have time!


I also have about 6 different VirtualBox Guest VMs running assorted 
flavours of Linux with Oracle 11gR2 installed on each - for my various 
work needs - and one, pretty much unused Windows 7 VM, for the extremely 
odd occasion when I have to test a new version of QStripper, or similar. 
I think I have an old 32 bit XP VM as well, I'll have to check!


I definitely need a bigger hard drive though, I only have 500Gb and it's 
pretty much nearly all gone.



Cheers,
Norm.

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Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd

Registered address:
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Pudsey
West Yorkshire
United Kingdom
LS28 7LG

Company Number: 05132767
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