Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] I am getting totally fed up!
bluegaspode;554541 Wrote: It's sooo depressing, that the community is able to help but not official support :( *sigh* Not sure if I follow your statement correctly. However in general active enthusiastic users of a product will most likely be able to act better for support than an official support person who is paid for by the company. This is not just for this product but for many products, this is why SlimDevices has this forum because they know that it works as a good support system. The reason many people will post saying this is not Official is when the person needs something that the community can not offer such as repair, replacement, or general complaint against the company. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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RoseRedd;554250 Wrote: Thanks for your response. We are using 7.5.0 and we were using the setting automatic update and suddenly about 1-2 months ago, it stopped playing most of our music and would just time out. I know one file we are trying to play is an mpeg-4. I have a lot of these files and my Squeezebox definitely used to play them. If not, I would never have used this system in the first place. When I try to play these files it say Problem: can't open file:... I am using a mac with operating system 10.5.8. I can't think of any more information. Thanks. The mpeg-4 problem you have is almost certainly fixed if you install the latest version of 7.5.1 from here: http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=7.5 -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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radikon, Have you tried contacting WD about accessing the power management settings on the HD itself? Seems that is where the problem likely resides. As for using a laptop with SB players, something just can't be correct with your setup. Like you I use a laptop to run SBS, remove laptop for biz trips, when back home my SB players connect right to that instance of SBS without issue. I've never had to reinstall SBS just to get players connected to SBS. That said, there are two differences in your setup vs my setup which may be contributing factors to your issues: - I don't own a Duet, you do - I have only one router, you have multiple routers -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Thanks so much. It worked like a charm. I am now enjoying the rest of my music! Cheers-Jody -- RoseRedd RoseRedd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38665 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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For you with an external drive usb or network drive. Note that the drive has to be mounted to the OS before squeezeboxserver is started !! If sbs is started and the drive with the music is not attached it's going to assume that the music location is no longer valid and erase the db etc and you have to scan again. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] I am getting totally fed up!
notwired;553943 Wrote: What about this line from their website? A compact all-in-one network music player and alarm that lets you rock the house with the digital music on your computer and the Internet. Maybe to you all-in-one implies that you need to run a separate server but to me it implies just the opposite. Uh duh... in this case all-in-one means it has a built-in amp and speakers. You have a valid complaint about the alarm not working with mysb.com, but your interpretation of all-in-one is just bs, especially considering it mentions digital music on your computer in the very same sentence. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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I cannot play most of my music. It say the file can't open. I called the support group and they took me through a bunch of useless steps before telling me that the new upgrade won't allow me to play mp4s and other types of files (which is most of my music!). They said to convert my files (I don't have 40 free hours to do this) but a few that I tried it on don't work. Why can't they revert back to the old version that could play music??? I can't figure out how to download 7.4.2 instead. I am mad. I am thinking about Sonos instead. -- RoseRedd RoseRedd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38665 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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If you are here to vent, mission accomplished. But if you'd like help you should provide details on your system, server, types of files, error messages, etc. Most problems can be solved but it does require a systematic approach. And no version of SbS has ever played DRM files purchased from iTunes. -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] I am getting totally fed up!
Thanks for your response. We are using 7.5.0 and we were using the setting automatic update and suddenly about 1-2 months ago, it stopped playing most of our music and would just time out. I know one file we are trying to play is an mpeg-4. I have a lot of these files and my Squeezebox definitely used to play them. If not, I would never have used this system in the first place. When I try to play these files it say Problem: can't open file:... I am using a mac with operating system 10.5.8. I can't think of any more information. Thanks. -- RoseRedd RoseRedd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38665 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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I thought I was technically challenged as I now enter my third year non-stop effort of debugging (er testing) this duet controller/slim devices/squeezebox server/player prototype for Logitech. Now I see that a veteran IT professional doesnt get it either! Albeit his issues are with the radio portion, I too am flabbergasted that Logitech deemed this a consumer hardened product .its great for techies who get their skirts blown up by figuring out how to make something with multiple failure opportunities function, but robust it is not. Im not a newbie at home network stuff as Ive set up print servers, have two wireless routers in my home daisy chained, 3 computers networked on them, etc. All that stuff works great. Given that and the fact the folks like JonInAtl have issues too suggests that indeed the product is lame. If you planned to actually have a hassle free way of listening to music with this beast beware! Dont get me wrong; Ive had my system working and working well for time periods of maybe up to a month or so. Then something happens and nothing works .the little circle spins around for ever on the controller .never telling me what its looking for or what it cant do; libraries that are mysteriously no longer configured in the Information tab of the Squeezebox Server GUI; libraries that wont even scan anymore unless the server software is re-installed; cant connect to server messages; batteries that wouldnt hold a charge longer than 10 mins (yes, Logitech sent me a new one after contacting them but why was it ever an issue to begin with?); cant access library, cant, cant, cant or wont, wont, wont. And forget the wireless setup to the player; employing an Ethernet cable thru my attic 2 years ago fixed a lot of stuff and allowed the new vista of problems to fully blossom. My setup? A Dell M4400 laptop as my server (I had a Dell 1150 before with the same problem set I have now) with 250 Gb (flac mp3) of music stored on an external Western Digital Mybook 500 Gb hard drive connected via USB 2.0. I run Windows XP; the Duet has software version 7.5.0 r8673; the SBS software is v 7.5.0 r30464. No, I cant believe its a software level issue Ive been thru multiple software upgrades usually they only make things worse. Connection of the router to the player is via Ethernet as is connection of the laptop to the router. Yes, the Mybook has a script built into it that shuts it down after a certain amount of time. Yes, I think this is my current problem because squeeze box server cant wake it up. Sometimes even Windows Explorer cant wake it up but usually it can. No, I dont know how to prevent the MyBook from powering down. No, you cant manage the power down via the Power Options in Widows XP that is already set to Never turn off hard disks. No, I dont want to put all my music on the internal drive of the laptop because of space limitations. Yes, I leave my laptop powered on all the time when its at home (because of Squeezebox). Yes, I occasionally unplug my laptop from the external drive and take it somewhere .its a laptop. Yes, the external drive appears to map back to the original drive letter E when I plug the laptop back into my home peripherals. I can always get things working again by either running the factory setup on the Duet and/or by reinstalling the server software and rescanning .about a 30 minute procedure but thats a lot to do when you just want to chill to some tunes after coming home; shuffling CDs around is easier or plugging in my MP3 player. Yes, Im fond of semi-colons. If anyone has any tips on this situation Id be very appreciative of your help. Ill even commit Logitech to compensating you for your time. Best wishes Thanks to JonInAtl and the thousands of other frustrated users in recognition of their millions of un-compensated, GDP draining man-hours spent on this product. -- radikon radikon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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albright;553882 Wrote: Why am I not surprised? shut you up for while though, didn't it (mission accomplished) I would be shocked (and actually a little flattered) if my complaining here about Logitech was even noticed by them. To them I'm just another sucker they took over $200 from by misrepresenting their product. -- notwired notwired's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36797 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] I am getting totally fed up!
notwired;553943 Wrote: What about this line from their website? A compact all-in-one network music player and alarm that lets you rock the house with the digital music on your computer and the Internet. I don't have any problems at all with these complaints on this forum. Makes for interesting reading. But consider this--one of these days, maybe you'll get like me and won't even need an alarm to wake up at the ungodly hour of 4:30 am!!! Just wait it out. -- diannabill diannabill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38082 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] I am getting totally fed up!
bluegaspode;552649 Wrote: Good to hear. Actually, I hate my working Squeezebox alarm every morning... -- Sakkerju Squeezebox Server-7.5.0 SSODS *** Squeezebox Radio - Touch - Controller *** WD TV Live Media Player Synology DS209+II - DSM 2.3-1141 - WD Caviar WD20EARS 2TB (RAID1) *** Linksys WRT320N 1Gb Denon PMA1500ae (analog)*** Kef iQ7 S.E *** Denon DVD DBP1610 (blu-ray) *** Sakkerju's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37149 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Howard Passman;552574 Wrote: Once again statically addressing the device is a pain in the patooey for those of us who don't use DHCP ...Out of curiosity, why aren't you running a DHCP server on your network? -- gweempose 2 Squeezebox Receivers 1 Squeezebox Classic 1 Squeezebox Boom 1 Squeezebox Radio 3 Squeezebox Controllers 1 iPod touch w/ iPeng gweempose's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9579 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] I am getting totally fed up!
Howard Passman;552574 Wrote: I haven't been around lately because after a while I got everything working just fine and left it that way. I wasn't looking for an extended family when I bought my first Duet, but the darn thing almost drove me crazy for a while. And then I got into all the plug-ins and on and on. I ended up with a bunch of SB's right up to the Transporter and really love em all, but once I got it working, including the SBC as a player, then I quit the game. I was interested in the Radio because it was something I thought would be useful long before it came out. However I resisted because I was happy running on 7.3 and didn't want to ruin my care free experience. Recently a friend expressed interest in the radio. He is not techinical at all and doesn't want to be. So I thought it might be a good time to try the Radio hooked up to a seperate server running the latest Squeeze Server software. The Radio seems to work fine after ones nights use (except the darn auto-brightness feature), but I would never reccommend it to anyone other than a techie or someone with time on their hands and no where to be in the morning when the alarm fails :-)(It is a stated feature and should work. The car analogy is very valid). For my purpose, it will be fine. I want something quick and easy to take outside that I don't have to plug in. Of course as it is I still have to plug it in because Logitech will never be any better at planning than they are at designing. They remind me of Nikon and anyone who shoots knows exactly what I'm saying. One surprise was statically addressing the Radio. I thought when the Boom came out that Logitech had actually learned a lesson from the SBR, but that isn't the case. Once again statically adddressing the device is a pain in the patooey for those of us who don't use DHCP. Thank the gods for Christian Erpelding and his SqueezeConfig software that runs on my Droid. Makes things a bit easier. Logitech should be so helpful. So, all in all I guess Logitech sold one more Radio, but not two or three or however many people ask me about the little box sitting on my table outside playing it's little heart out. Or I may decide running two servers to be silly and send it back. Either way I guess I'll be watching this forum for a little while and then after everything works well again I'll go back in to my happy music listening bliss. Hello, I am running 2 SB Radios and 1 duet with the latest 7.5.1 SBS server on WHS and everything works fine concerning the alarm, every morning I have my local playlist running fine for more then 3 weeks now ! Before that I had issues, to fix everything I had to: - Uninstall SBS server previous version - clean all cache - Make sure my server is not running downloads or computer backup task at alarm clock time - Reinstall SBS latest version - Uninstall all crappy plugins that are installed by default Now everything works like a charm: quick and reliable. But I agree, until being almost a tech, this is not possible for the average user ! A shame ! -- Tartifless Tartifless's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37024 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] I am getting totally fed up!
For the record: I use my Squeezebox Radio as a wake-up radio every morning. Combined with a dedicated SqueezeBox Server running on my NAS. Fairly basic it runs a single alarm schedeled for every day. After 3 months, no problems with that. -- Sakkerju Squeezebox Server-7.5.0 SSODS *** Squeezebox Radio - Touch - Controller *** WD TV Live Media Player Synology DS209+II - DSM 2.3-1141 - WD Caviar WD20EARS 2TB (RAID1) *** Linksys WRT320N 1Gb Denon PMA1500ae (analog)*** Kef iQ7 S.E *** Denon DVD DBP1610 (blu-ray) *** Sakkerju's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37149 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] I am getting totally fed up!
Tartifless;552593 Wrote: Hello, I am running 2 SB Radios and 1 duet with the latest 7.5.1 SBS server on WHS and everything works fine concerning the alarm, every morning I have my local playlist running fine for more then 3 weeks now ! Good to hear. -- bluegaspode 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 1xSB-Radio Server (7.4.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. Secondary 7.4 Server on Debianized Buffalo Linkstation LS-CHL. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] I am getting totally fed up!
Sakkerju;552614 Wrote: For the record: I use my Squeezebox Radio as a wake-up radio every morning. Combined with a dedicated SqueezeBox Server running on my NAS. Fairly basic it runs a single alarm schedeled for every day. After 3 months, no problems with that. Funny I have similar experience with my Radio too except mine has woken me up perfectly every morning to a local playlist for the past 6 months :) -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Perhaps we are the verge of some progress toward a solution to the firmware issue. I emailed tech support with the following message on May 14: You need to fix the firmware version 7.5 quick. Very bad situation with owners. It must be affecting your sales. You should review the forum posts, review the posts left on your support site. Not sure why it is taking so long to respond to some very serious issues. After a few back and forths, today I received the following: Hi xxx My latest meeting with Engineering left me with the impression that the software should be ready for release this coming Monday. Whether or not that means we'll be releasing it Monday, I cannot say, but it should be finished its testing phase by then. I would say very soon. Regards, T. Escalation Supervisor Logitech Squeezebox Phone: +1-877-887-8889 (toll-free) Phone: +1-646-454-3237 (international) -- ciarmer ciarmer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37631 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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iPhone;550598 Wrote: Not stirring the pot to much but lets get real. The SB Radio's main feature *-IS NOT-* that it is an alarm clock! Its called an SB Radio. Not an SB Radio Alarm Clock much less an SB Alarm Clock. I disagree. Erland already explained why. Thankfully the alarm is working for me 99% correct and 1% with backup alarm (when my internet is down). -- bluegaspode 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 1xSB-Radio Server (7.4.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. Secondary 7.4 Server on Debianized Buffalo Linkstation LS-CHL. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Thank you Brucegrr, Erland, Bluegaspode, PeterW and MPower for injecting the right blend of understanding and pragmatism into this discussion. There's no question Logitech has screwed up this product, and there's equally no question that ad nauseum complaining won't help them fix it any faster. IPhone and EAP: I hope someday you buy a product outside your area of expertise, based purely on marketing promises - maybe a car, or a vacuum cleaner - and it fails to perform its basic functions. I hope you go looking for answers and are told that of course everyone knows you need to put in this aftermarket transmission and tweak the gear ratios to get good performance. We've all done it, and this thing's a champ - what's the big deal? -- frb63 frb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Wow. I'm glad I opted for a Boom for our bedroom and didn't get a Radio to replace my wife's alarm clock. I have to agree that it's a pretty poor showing that a feature like this can't be made to work reliably. No, it's not a core feature, but it's certainly not a hidden feature. If this can't be made to work in the advertised environment (mysb.com), then it shouldn't be a supported feature at all. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.0, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 33,060 songs, 2,656 albums, 484 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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brucegrr;550771 Wrote: Certainly Logitech is not the only one on the marketing hype. I bought a Samsung BD-P1600 blu-ray player over Christmas. That makes me remember that one and a half years ago a bough a Dell laptop with blue-ray disk and HDMI-out just to realize that it just put the video but not the sound over the HDMI cable. WTF ? Dell Support was nice but told me, that they only can help with hardware problems - software problems are handled by this payed premium support ... which advertized for helping with your windows and word installations ... didn't ever contact them. So this was where I got totally fed up to return to the topic :D -- bluegaspode 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 1xSB-Radio Server (7.4.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. Secondary 7.4 Server on Debianized Buffalo Linkstation LS-CHL. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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eap;550372 Wrote: Well all your problems would go away if you kept a computer running 24/7. Many people do. It doesn't harm anything. My wife and I use the alarm on the radio reliably (for about 6 months now). The people who have the most issues use mysb. I say, if you want to use the radio alarm, just run a computer 24/7. Its not a big deal to do so --- some people make it seem like its the end of the world. Frankly, with fios and cable speeds now, why would you want to wait to boot a computer. I would leave my PC on 24/7 even without a squeezebox radio. Then maybe Logitech should advertise it as an appliance that REQUIRES you to run your own server on a separate computer in order to work. Had I known that then I surely would not have spent a nickel on it. Better a small appliance that needs a little power to run over a small appliance and a computer on 24/7. I guess you aren't a huge fan of conservation. -- notwired notwired's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36797 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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It's so frustrating to always hear that just keep you PC running 24h a day nonsense when you insist that the Radio simply doesn't work with MYSB. It's like telling someone with a wheelchair who insists to get a ramp to reach the mall to simply buy his stuff somewhere else. Now really: how can someone possible think that this same pointless response is worth to be posted over and over and over and over again? -- 0xdeadbeef 0xdeadbeef's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2287 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Because some people might not know that there is a very reliable alternative. I don't want to defend Logitech for promising/advertising that it all works reliable without your own server. But just lets be pragmatic (from a user point of view) - what are your options when you can't give back the device ? 1) demand from logitech to fix it and wait until you're blue in your mind 2) sell it on ebay 3) make it working because most of the problems are not in the firmware but because of this damn unreliable mysb.com server. The forum can't help you with 1) or 2). But it can help you with 3) Yes this is not how its supposed to be when you buy a product. Still its your only chance make your freedom with your device now. -- bluegaspode 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 1xSB-Radio Server (7.4.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. Secondary 7.4 Server on Debianized Buffalo Linkstation LS-CHL. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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0xdeadbeef;550415 Wrote: It's so frustrating to always hear that just keep you PC running 24h a day nonsense when you insist that the Radio simply doesn't work with MYSB. It's like telling someone with a wheelchair who insists to get a ramp to reach the mall to simply buy his stuff somewhere else. Now really: how can someone possible think that this same pointless response is worth to be posted over and over and over and over again? Using the server software fixes the problem in most cases. Yes, this in NOT what you wanted to do. Bluegaspode pretty well sums up the options you have. Unless you give up and sell your radio you are going to have to wait for Logitech to fix this. Yeah it is not fair, not right, false advertising, etc, etc, etc.but it is what it is. Since it is what it is...using the server software is the best, temporary, most reliable fix. -- brucegrr brucegrr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3964 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Just a statement of fact. Your options are few. Sell the radio. Shelf the radio. Or live with it as it is until it is fixed. The forums are overrun with bitc*ing users upset with their radio. I am quite willing to grant that their problems are legitimate. That said, the bitc*ing fixes nothing. I, for one, get tired of reading it. Running the server software will likely fix the problem. Some users don't want to do it. Fine. But, constantly complaining and griping about it is not going to change anything. Personally, I find this forum much less friendly and enjoyable these days. I try and help the users I can. But, no one is going to post a magical fix for the problems people are having with the radio. Logitech has to do that. I have no doubt they are working on it. Those having a problem are just doing to have to wait until it is fixed. Tough luck to be sure..but that's just how it is. Bruce -- brucegrr brucegrr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3964 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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brucegrr;550449 Wrote: That said, the bitc*ing fixes nothing. I, for one, get tired of reading it. +1 I sometimes wish there was a Complaints section which I could completly ignore. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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notwired;550374 Wrote: Then maybe Logitech should advertise it as an appliance that REQUIRES you to run your own server on a separate computer in order to work. Had I known that then I surely would not have spent a nickel on it. Better a small appliance that needs a little power to run over a small appliance and a computer on 24/7. I guess you aren't a huge fan of conservation. You are not running a SERVER -- you are running some squeezebox software on a home computer. I think people hear server and think they need to run a giant commercial type piece of hardware that sits in a rack, with water chillers in the room and halon gas for fire supression. Its some software that runs on a laptop or a PC or a macbook. What's the big deal? If you have a monitor that turns off after 20 minutes, the power consumption is too small to cry about. Modern computers do not need to be turned off -- EVER. Set the monitor to go off when inactive, the rest is not worth crying about -- unless you prefer to complain about mysb. Wouldn't you rather have more local control, then have to 100% rely on Logitech's servers? -- eap eap's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32788 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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0xdeadbeef;550415 Wrote: It's so frustrating to always hear that just keep you PC running 24h a day nonsense when you insist that the Radio simply doesn't work with MYSB. It's like telling someone with a wheelchair who insists to get a ramp to reach the mall to simply buy his stuff somewhere else. Now really: how can someone possible think that this same pointless response is worth to be posted over and over and over and over again? Well I don't understand why someone who has legs that work would sit in a wheelchair. Those who insist on using MYSB exclusively are crippling themselves for no good reason. Who would want to rely 100% on logitech's servers. You have more control if you use squeezebox software locally and the alarm is reliable. End of story. Is it that big a deal to keep a home computer on and run some squeezebox software on it? -- eap eap's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32788 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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0xdeadbeef;550438 Wrote: Now this was helpful. Yeah, you know it wasn't. What is your issue with using a home computer and some squeezebox software? Its not that big a deal. -- eap eap's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32788 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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eap;550461 Wrote: Well I don't understand why someone who has legs that work would sit in a wheelchair. Those who insist on using MYSB exclusively are crippling themselves for no good reason. Who would want to rely 100% on logitech's servers. You have more control if you use squeezebox software locally and the alarm is reliable. End of story. Is it that big a deal to keep a home computer on and run some squeezebox software on it? While I agree with you, the radio is supposed to work using mysb.com. I guess there are a few users that have a router and no computer. :) Though I am not sure how they set up their router. Most everyone has a computer they can use for the squeezebox server software. I have a computer in my office I leave on 24/7 (win 7) It is the BEST solution. That said, there are some users who want to use the radio for online music alone and so they use mysb.com. Logitech bears some responsibility for how this product was advertised. This is how Logitech advertises the radio: bYour all-in-one Wi-Fi music player#8212;no computer, no clutter, and no limits. The compact Logitech Squeezebox Radio works with your Wi-Fi network to stream a world of crystal-clear music to any room you want. Just plug it in and turn the dial to connect to an underground rock station in Amsterdam, talk show in Sydney, sports coverage from Boston or BBC news from London. Discover millions of tracks from online services like Last.fm and Pandora. With its built-in high-fidelity amplifier and speakers, you'll enjoy room-filling sound#8212;all from a little music player that fits easily on a corner of your kitchen counter, bedroom night table, or desk in the den. /b It clearly says NO COMPUTER. So the complaint that some people have is valid. Bruce -- brucegrr brucegrr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3964 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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eap;550462 Wrote: What is your issue with using a home computer and some squeezebox software? Its not that big a deal. Stop. Just stop. Plenty of people have plenty of reasons (noise, energy, WAF, cost of electricity, etc.) not to run a server 24x7, so just stop, OK? -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ Free plugins: 'AllQuiet' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AllQuiet.html) 'Auto Dim/AutoDisplay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AutoDisplay.html) 'BlankSaver' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/BlankSaver.html) 'ContextMenu' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/ContextMenu.html) 'DenonSerial' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/DenonSerial.html) 'FuzzyTime' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/FuzzyTime.html) 'KidsPlay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KidsPlay.html) 'KitchenTimer' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KitchenTimer.html) 'PlayLog' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PlayLog.html) 'PowerCenter/BottleRocket' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PowerCenter.html) 'SaverSwitcher' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SaverSwitcher.html) 'SettingsManager' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SettingsManager.html) 'SleepFade' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SleepFade.html) 'StatusFirst' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/StatusFirst.html) 'SyncOptions' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SyncOptions.html) 'VolumeLock' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/VolumeLock.html) peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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erland;550452 Wrote: +1 I sometimes wish there was a Complaints section which I could completely ignore. +1000 :) I allow for the fact that people get upset when they buy something and it doesn't work as advertised. I understand their anger over advertising that said one thing and then delivered something else. But, once they ask for help and find out there is no fix at this time...(and since this is a user forum not an official Logitech support forum)the bitc*ing needs to stop. A free-for-all complaint section would certainly clear up a lot of the posts in the forums. -- brucegrr brucegrr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3964 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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peterw;550468 Wrote: Stop. Just stop. Plenty of people have plenty of reasons (noise, energy, WAF, cost of electricity, etc.) not to run a server 24x7, so just stop, OK? I think the reasons are overstated and not well-thought out (not to mention people being scared by the word server -- hence I prefer to call it running an application on your home computer): 1. Noise: I have a large desktop PC. Its fans are not audible above ambient background sounds from more than a foot or so away. Most modern computers are not particularly noisy anymore. 2. Energy/cost of electricity: As explained, these costs are typically minimal as long as a monitor is set to sleep after a period of inactivity. It is not more green to have people using mysb exclusively, thus requiring logitech to expand its energy use for a commercial data center; 3. WAF: For the reasons above, WAF should not be a factor -- divorce is an option too ;) -- eap eap's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32788 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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peterw;550468 Wrote: Stop. Just stop. Plenty of people have plenty of reasons (noise, energy, WAF, cost of electricity, etc.) not to run a server 24x7, so just stop, OK? This little device called SheevaPlug mentioned somewhere else in this forum (which has got very good support by the community here) doesn't have any noise (no fans), doesn't consume much energy (3W on idle) and has the best WAF I know of (its a plug, its sort of invisible - what could have a better woman acceptance factor than invisible stuff?). In the meantime my wifes even enjoys listening to Squeezeboxes (she of course (!) complained a lot about the Logi-Stuff I bought). THAT's what I call WAF. I converted this plug also to being my new printserver - so I'm even saving energy because I don't have to turn on the 'big' computer just to print. It also acts as my NAS - and again I don't have to turn on my big computer if I need access to some files from my laptop. And I even safed money compared to other solutions. So yes - maybe you didn't want to spend 150$ more (SheevaPlug + HD). I agree. But money is the only reason I accept for not having a 24x7 server that could suit your needs in so many other good ways. It might even take you one more weekend to set up. But than again - your life will be at least a year longer if you just do it and stop pushing your anger about logitech. Life's just not worth it. And logitech for sure doesn't deserve shortening your life. We get ripped off by big companies and their adverts all the time. But at least with the Logi-devices I was able to help myself. All this of course shouldn't prevent you from giving bad amazon reviews, write letters to review magazines and all that. Take your anger and use the channels that matters to higher management ! But I think this forum is the least place where you should place your complaints in my opinion. Here we talk about workarounds and try to help to make the best of what we bought. Here we are happy that people like erland put their life into giving us all the stuff logitech isn't capable of (hope they as well push his donate button regularly). And for alarms: I think hoping that it will ever work with MySB.com is too much. Apparently with their current architecture (communicating with mysb.com at alarm time) all their sold devices run a coordinated DenialOfService-Attack against their own servers. Each day. Sure you can wait for the big rearchitecture to come - but don't think that it will be in less than six month (if they dare to do it at all). -- bluegaspode 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 1xSB-Radio Server (7.4.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. Secondary 7.4 Server on Debianized Buffalo Linkstation LS-CHL. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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eap;550462 Wrote: What is your issue with using a home computer and some squeezebox software? Its not that big a deal. We heard you the first time. Ever heard of truth in advertising? Let me guess, you work in marketing? I wonder what a consumer reports type organization would think of Logitech's practices. I'm fairly confident they would stand firmly on my side of the fence. -- notwired notwired's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36797 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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eap;550496 Wrote: I think the reasons are overstated and not well-thought out Yes, the rest of us are idiots. We get it. Now will you please stop? -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ Free plugins: 'AllQuiet' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AllQuiet.html) 'Auto Dim/AutoDisplay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AutoDisplay.html) 'BlankSaver' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/BlankSaver.html) 'ContextMenu' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/ContextMenu.html) 'DenonSerial' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/DenonSerial.html) 'FuzzyTime' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/FuzzyTime.html) 'KidsPlay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KidsPlay.html) 'KitchenTimer' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KitchenTimer.html) 'PlayLog' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PlayLog.html) 'PowerCenter/BottleRocket' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PowerCenter.html) 'SaverSwitcher' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SaverSwitcher.html) 'SettingsManager' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SettingsManager.html) 'SleepFade' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SleepFade.html) 'StatusFirst' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/StatusFirst.html) 'SyncOptions' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SyncOptions.html) 'VolumeLock' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/VolumeLock.html) peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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notwired;550540 Wrote: I wonder what a consumer reports type organization would think of Logitech's practices. I'm fairly confident they would stand firmly on my side of the fence. Sure they will. But it won't make your life happier. Unfortunately you have to choose between being right in your arguments (which you are) or jumping over this fence and getting happy (most of the time ;) ) right now. I always strive after happiness :D Maybe the best one can get is a voucher from logitech if you complain really hard (at the right channels). -- bluegaspode 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 1xSB-Radio Server (7.4.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. Secondary 7.4 Server on Debianized Buffalo Linkstation LS-CHL. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Hell, this is so annoying. Why can't certain Squeezebox fans stop to spam every thread that names the blatant bugs with their we know better what you want attitude? And heck, if Logitech ignores all the unhappy users and doesn't show any interest in fixing the issues for such a long time, it's not very surprising that customers use the forum to utter their frustration. Telling them that they don't have a problem or that they should shut up is not a very sensible approach. Finally fixing the issues after all these months would effectively stop people from complaining though. You would think that the Logitech management finally realizes that the number of complaints in the forum and in Amazon reviews simply reflects the situation. And honestly, demanding to move all these threads to a faraway complaints forum that can be easily ignored is a slap in the face of everybody who bought a SB Radio because he believed in Logitech's promises. -- 0xdeadbeef 0xdeadbeef's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2287 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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brucegrr;550467 Wrote: While I agree with you, the radio is supposed to work using mysb.com. I guess there are a few users that have a router and no computer. :) Though I am not sure how they set up their router. While not my situation, I do know several people who have a home router to support their laptop. The laptop may go to work or school with one person and leave others in the house computerless. MySB would let those people continue to use the Radio in that situation. While I run a music server, I appreciate that, with the Radio in particular, it'd be nice if Logitech could get MySB straightened out. -- mlsstl mlsstl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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For people on this thread who refused to participate in bugzilla process (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16170) and thereby be kept up-to-date, this is the latest up-date from the Logitechs: Alan Young 2010-05-25 01:23:14 PDT Here is a status report for those monitoring this bug: When 7.5.0 was released there was both new firmware for Squeezebox Radio and new software on mysqueezebox.com. People started reporting that their SB Radios stopped playing and many attributed this to problems to the 7.5.0 firmware. It seems highly likely that the actual cause was a bug introduced in to the mysqueezebox.com software. This bug was fixed on 17 May. Since then, behaviour should have reverted to that of 7.4.2. This is the key message in this comment. In the process of analysing the problems, we uncovered a number of vulnerabilities in the interactions between a player and mysqueezebox.com which could, under some circumstances, cause playback to stop unnecessarily. The SB Radio (and other SP-based players including the SB Touch) is slightly more likely to be affected by these than are older players (Classic, Boom, Duet, etc.) because of small differences in timings used by the firmware. We also uncovered a couple of related bugs in the SP firmware. None of these are changes between 7.4.2 and 7.5.0. Testing is currently under way for changes to both mysqueezebox.com and the firmware used for Radio and Touch to fix the identified bugs and substantially reduce the vulnerabilities. These fixes will be included in 7.5.1 and should represent an enhancement over 7.4.2 in this area. -- mpower9 mpower9's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33930 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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iPhone;550598 Wrote: Not stirring the pot to much but lets get real. The SB Radio's main feature *-IS NOT-* that it is an alarm clock! Its called an SB Radio. Not an SB Radio Alarm Clock much less an SB Alarm Clock. Maybe it should have an Internet Radio button (with the RKO-style radio tower icon?) instead of that Alarm button, then. Not stirring the pot too much -- yeah, right. -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ Free plugins: 'AllQuiet' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AllQuiet.html) 'Auto Dim/AutoDisplay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AutoDisplay.html) 'BlankSaver' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/BlankSaver.html) 'ContextMenu' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/ContextMenu.html) 'DenonSerial' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/DenonSerial.html) 'FuzzyTime' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/FuzzyTime.html) 'KidsPlay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KidsPlay.html) 'KitchenTimer' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KitchenTimer.html) 'PlayLog' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PlayLog.html) 'PowerCenter/BottleRocket' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PowerCenter.html) 'SaverSwitcher' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SaverSwitcher.html) 'SettingsManager' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SettingsManager.html) 'SleepFade' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SleepFade.html) 'StatusFirst' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/StatusFirst.html) 'SyncOptions' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SyncOptions.html) 'VolumeLock' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/VolumeLock.html) peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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iPhone;550598 Wrote: Not stirring the pot to much but lets get real. The SB Radio's main feature *-IS NOT-* that it is an alarm clock! Its called an SB Radio. Not an SB Radio Alarm Clock much less an SB Alarm Clock. I've had the same thoughts as you earlier but I have to say that I've changed my mind a bit. The physical size and advertising clearly results in that many people are going to use the Radio in the bedroom and when used in the bedroom a reliable alarm is maybe the most important feature. However, I think the most critical bug is MySB reliability and the randomly stopped audio streams when using MySB. Hopefully that part should be soon solved according to Alan's status report in bugzilla. iPhone;550598 Wrote: The Squeezebox was designed to work best when using a PC/Server running SBS. Will it 'work' without one logged into mysb.com, sure it will. Will using mysb.com ever be as reliable as running a dedicated SBS machine (PC, Server, NAS, SheevaPlug, Laptop), never, not even if every bug and complaint were fixed tomorrow. You are correct that it works better with a local PC/server but I really believe Logitech has designed it to work better with MySB.com. One example is that during the beta tests we had a lot of discussions regarding the initial setup process and it was very clear that Logitech wanted it to be optimized for users without a local PC/server with the result that it doesn't work as good as it could for people with a local server. Logitech is very dedicated to make sure MySB works, in many cases I think it's a lot more important for them than making sure your local server works. However, at the moment it's clear that they have failed in their intentions regarding this because at the moment it works better with a local server. iPhone;550598 Wrote: For again, there are other people and technologies involved that are nowhere near fault proof. There is the Internet connection (all of them, not just your home one), the mysb.com servers, ones modem, ones network, and everything else. So look at what is really involved and stop calling a Squeezebox on mysb.com an alarm clock for it is NOT! To many things can go wrong to cause an alarm not to sound. That's not the fault of MySB, it's the alarm functionality that's designed incorrectly mainly due to inheritance from the older Squeezebox products. It would be possible to make the alarm functionality less dependent on MySB or even not dependent on a server/MySB at all, it's just a matter of changing the alarm handling logic. iPhone;550598 Wrote: And nobody give me that Energy/Environmentalist crap about leaving a Mac Mini/DIY Atom/Fit-PC2 on all the time when it uses only 6 to 23 watts (SheevaPlug 3W). All your TVs are plugged in, the picture might be off, but its sucking down electricity when you think its off or it wouldn't come on instantly when you press On. I'll bet most of you have Central Heat/AC too. As well as other things that run 24/7 that one never even thinks about. We really should not critique people that wants to care for our planet, every watt counts even though some things might be pretty small when you look at the big picture. However, you are right that there are a lot of better solutions than running a 100W server 24/7. A DIY server or a sheevaplug works really good if you are able to set it up but for some people it's too advanced. I suspect a Vortexbox appliance might be the best solution for people that want something that just works and is easy to setup but that will make it a bit more expensive. I understand that some people don't want to spend additionally $300-400 to make their $199 fancy alarm clock to work reliably. $99 for a sheevaplug might be acceptable but it's too advanced to setup for some people. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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0xdeadbeef;550185 Wrote: There's no lack of such reports (in this forum as well as on Amazon etc.) as every user who uses the Radio via MYSB has the same issues. Stations stop playing after a random time, the background changes to the default one if the radio is in standby, it's impossible to switch the Radio off without rebooting it or pulling the plug. And of course the alarm is not working (fallback alarms, random stopping, no alarm at all etc.). It's really not so hard to reproduce all of this. Simply try to use the Radio for a few days without a local server. Is there bug reports available for all this on http://bugs.slimdevices.com ? If not, someone should probably register bug reports with as much informaiton as possible if we want the problems to be fixed. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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erland;550216 Wrote: Is there bug reports available for all this on http://bugs.slimdevices.com ? If not, someone should probably register bug reports with as much informaiton as possible if we want the problems to be fixed. We have http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16170 that's the closest thing I've found . -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] I am getting totally fed up!
0xdeadbeef;550185 Wrote: There's no lack of such reports (in this forum as well as on Amazon etc.) as every user who uses the Radio via MYSB has the same issues. Stations stop playing after a random time, the background changes to the default one if the radio is in standby, it's impossible to switch the Radio off without rebooting it or pulling the plug. And of course the alarm is not working (fallback alarms, random stopping, no alarm at all etc.). It's really not so hard to reproduce all of this. Simply try to use the Radio for a few days without a local server. Based on your experience do you think the problem is mostly mysb.com? If mysb.com issues were fixed would that make your radio usable and make you relatively happy? It seems that mysb.com is the primary culprit in a number problems. I would be upset to if I bought the radio to use reliably with mysb.com and was unable to reliably do so. Personally, I never use mysb.com directly. Server is always on so I always use the server and access myapps via the server interface. I guess what I am trying to figure out is this a matter of a lot of different issues or one main culprit (mysb.com) causing the majority of the problems radio users are having. Filing bug reports would be crucial at this point. (that is is the user is not so fed up to return the radio or bash it with a hammer) -- brucegrr brucegrr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3964 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] I am getting totally fed up!
0xdeadbeef;550185 Wrote: There's no lack of such reports (in this forum as well as on Amazon etc.) as every user who uses the Radio via MYSB has the same issues. Stations stop playing after a random time, the background changes to the default one if the radio is in standby, it's impossible to switch the Radio off without rebooting it or pulling the plug. And of course the alarm is not working (fallback alarms, random stopping, no alarm at all etc.). It's really not so hard to reproduce all of this. Simply try to use the Radio for a few days without a local server. Thank you 0xdeadbeef. :) I gave up on trying to log a bug when it was reported that users had to vote on bugs for them to be fixed. As I've said before, fixing bugs shouldn't be like a democracy - the radio does NOT work as advertised. I have called Logitech support on numerous occasions. They have blamed everything on my end and have not acknowledged any issues with the SBR. Funny though, all my other internet devices work fine. If MySB is the problem then they need to fix it and let their customers know there is an issue they are working on instead of burying their heads in the sand. Logitech DOES NOT CARE about their SBR customers. Period. Generally, actions speak louder than words but in this case we aren't even getting the words. Thank god today was a holiday because the alarm didn't fire AT ALL. My wife is so fed up with the gift (I was the dummy who bought it) that we are going back to old reliable - a $15 clock radio that reliably plays both AM and FM reliably. Can you image that Logitech?? -- notwired notwired's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36797 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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brucegrr;550230 Wrote: Based on your experience do you think the problem is mostly mysb.com? If mysb.com issues were fixed would that make your radio usable and make you relatively happy? From a customer's perspective it's hard to tell which parts of the current issues are caused by bad system design, bad software implementation on the radio and bad server setup. Probably an unhealthy mixture of all three points. Then again, as a customer I don't have to care: the Radio is advertised to work without a local server and in the 6 or 7 months I owned it, it hardly ever did. brucegrr;550230 Wrote: I guess what I am trying to figure out is this a matter of a lot of different issues or one main culprit (mysb.com) causing the majority of the problems radio users are having. The problem we're having is one of bad management, too few people with too little experience working on too many different projects and failing completely. It's not like the issues started with the 7.5.0 update. Most of the issues exist since the release of the Radio and they were already reported back then. In 6 months, it should be possible to hire some people who are actually capable of fixing the design/implementation/setup issues. Instead they decided to tinker with them alongside the Touch development. Bad decision. brucegrr;550230 Wrote: Filing bug reports would be crucial at this point. (that is is the user is not so fed up to return the radio or bash it with a hammer) Filing bug reports is a complete waste of time. Been there, did this. In all the years that I filed bug reports, I hardly ever saw a positive outcome. Usually bugs are defined as solved without solving them or they are made duplicates of (more or less) unrelated bugs and then closed etc. Every now and then I still get some automatic feedback on some bugs I filed years ago for the SB classic, but since my original report was merged/marked as duplicate, it's usually hard to tell what the heck this message has to do with my original report. Usually nothing. All the reports I filed last year for the Radio were closed/merged/ignored as well, so why do you think that filing new bug reports over and over again would change the minds of the Logitech folks who obviously decided to simply ignore all the known and obvious issues with the Radio? -- 0xdeadbeef 0xdeadbeef's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2287 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Thanks for sharing your experience/viewpoint. I don't own a radio. I have had thoughts of buying one/two but these ongoing problems have scared me off. My classic and boom are rock solid...rarely a problem. The boom is our clock and alarm and it has never missed. Consumers should be able to expect products to work as advertised. Bruce -- brucegrr brucegrr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3964 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] I am getting totally fed up!
gwbaker;549899 Wrote: brucegrr;546449 Wrote: Nicnac;545584 Wrote: Senior members: Can we in any way, shape or form, get an official word from Logitech that this issue will be fixed this month, this summer, this year, or never? NO. But you personally can call Logitech or CEO Gerald Quindlen and see if you can get a date. Let us know how it works out. Wow, with a YELLING NO (wonder if it was screaming) gives me great concern over the lack of support around here... I just ordered a SBR today from Amazon. If I see more of this type of FO attitude, I might refuse to accept my shipment and get my money back. This is ridiculous!!! Also the smartarsed call the CEO realy puts it over the top. Knowing what I know now I would totally refuse shipment. The radio doesn't work as a radio. It does okay as a door stop or paper weight if that is what you had in mind. -- notwired notwired's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36797 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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notwired;550059 Wrote: Knowing what I know now I would totally refuse shipment. The radio doesn't work as a radio. It does okay as a door stop or paper weight if that is what you had in mind. Is it the alarm handling that doesn't work or do you also have other issues ? If you have posted about your problems already, please just give me a link to that thread/post. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] I am getting totally fed up!
brucegrr;546449 Wrote: Nicnac;545584 Wrote: Senior members: Can we in any way, shape or form, get an official word from Logitech that this issue will be fixed this month, this summer, this year, or never? NO. But you personally can call Logitech or CEO Gerald Quindlen and see if you can get a date. Let us know how it works out. Wow, with a YELLING NO (wonder if it was screaming) gives me great concern over the lack of support around here... I just odered a SBR today from amazon. If I see more of this type of FO attitude, I might refuse to accept my shipment and get my money back. This is rediculous!!! -- gwbaker gwbaker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38320 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] I am getting totally fed up!
gwbaker;549899 Wrote: Wow, with a YELLING NO (wonder if it was screaming) gives me great concern over the lack of support around here... I just ordered a SBR today from Amazon. If I see more of this type of FO attitude, I might refuse to accept my shipment and get my money back. This is ridiculous!!! Also the smartarsed call the CEO realy puts it over the top. I hope you realize how silly you sound here. The original poster wants an official answer. Official answers come from official company employees and not from this forum. I intended to be smar**ssedso you did get that right. Go ahead and refuse your order. Your loss. :) Bruce PS. I have MS(difficult muscle coordination) Maybe I accidentally hit the uppercase O when I typed No. Didn't consider that did ya? I don't live in a world where I spend time shouting or screaming at anyone/anything but the TV when my favorite team is losing. -- brucegrr brucegrr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3964 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] I am getting totally fed up!
Nicnac;545584 Wrote: Senior members: Can we in any way, shape or form, get an official word from Logitech that this issue will be fixed this month, this summer, this year, or never? NO. But you personally can call Logitech or CEO Gerald Quindlen and see if you can get a date. Let us know how it works out. -- brucegrr brucegrr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3964 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] I am getting totally fed up!
notwired;545145 Wrote: They have adopted the head buried in sand approach. How long has your SBR been having issues? Feels like mine has been problematic for over a month and I actually delayed moving to the new firmware until I could no longer stand the nag screen! Call their support folks and they will only help you fix your issues one at a time. There is no firmware issue - it's your router, it's something you've installed on the SBR, it's your internet connection, etc... Very sad state of affairs for Logitech customers. I just got chewed out by two senior members for saying pretty much everything you have said here, in another thread. They are frustrated by this too but choose to defend Logitech they are silent because they must be working hard on this problem and continue to ask us to provide logs, suggest our networks are bad (even though they were fine under the last firmware)... or perhaps its your router. Senior members: Can we in any way, shape or form, get an official word from Logitech that this issue will be fixed this month, this summer, this year, or never? -- Nicnac Nicnac's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37411 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Stevereno;544730 Wrote: Logitech's incentive should be to please the customer base so people will continue to recommend their products to others. Word of mouth and praising a product sells goods - and is the best form of advertising any company could hope for. When I first got mine, I was very pleased and truly felt that it exceeded my expectations. So much that I even bought a second one as well. I also took it to work and showed it off to my co-workers too. The way it stands now, I wouldn't recommend the Squeezebox Radio to anyone. Logitech really needs to get the firmware issue fixed - and fast. It would go a long way if they'd at least communicate, acknowledge the bug, and let folks know they are working hard on a fix. Until that happens, they've lost me as a customer for any of their products. They have adopted the head buried in sand approach. How long has your SBR been having issues? Feels like mine has been problematic for over a month and I actually delayed moving to the new firmware until I could no longer stand the nag screen! Call their support folks and they will only help you fix your issues one at a time. There is no firmware issue - it's your router, it's something you've installed on the SBR, it's your internet connection, etc... Very sad state of affairs for Logitech customers. -- notwired notwired's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36797 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] I am getting totally fed up!
Stevereno;544730 Wrote: Logitech's incentive should be to please the customer base so people will continue to recommend their products to others. Word of mouth and praising a product sells goods - and is the best form of advertising any company could hope for. When I first got mine, I was very pleased and truly felt that it exceeded my expectations. So much that I even bought a second one as well. I also took it to work and showed it off to my co-workers too. The way it stands now, I wouldn't recommend the Squeezebox Radio to anyone. Logitech really needs to get the firmware issue fixed - and fast. It would go a long way if they'd at least communicate, acknowledge the bug, and let folks know they are working hard on a fix. Until that happens, they've lost me as a customer for any of their products.The sad thing is that they actually had at least one OK firmware version in the past and they've added little more than problems after that. The SBR should allow us to revert to any of the previous firmware versions and then it should stop nagging us to upgrade. -- Zimberto Zimberto's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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I solved my alarm, connection, and totally random player stopping problems in one fell swoop! I replaced my SBR with a Reciva based radio from Grace Digital. The alarm works EVERY morning! Player streams consistently every night until the sleep timer shuts it off. No, it doesn't have the same look or feel of the SBR, but it's 100% USABLE and that, in my opinion, trumps all else. As for the SBR... it's on my desk in at work where I don't have to relay on it for anything, like, you know, waking me up. Yes it still stops playing at random, but now I get my finger exercise re-starting it rather than flipping it off. -- JonInAtl JonInAtl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37231 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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I don't expect to come home and have to deal with a bug infestation on a consumer grade streaming device as well. I just want to set it up once and enjoy. Here here! I really resent paying a premium for an appliance and then be expected to do the bug testing for it as well. I resent Microsoft for starting it, and I resent all those who have copied them; so its not just Logitech who does it, but it is a terrible habit. All the best Jim -- squeezyjim squeezyjim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34525 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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squeezyjim;544232 Wrote: Here here! I really resent paying a premium for an appliance and then be expected to do the bug testing for it as well. I resent Microsoft for starting it, and I resent all those who have copied them; so its not just Logitech who does it, but it is a terrible habit. All the best Jim Unfortunately, I get the feeling they've now gotten big enough that they can and will get away with it. Still no word on when a FIXED FW will be made available. They have no real incentive to fix it really, they've gotten our money already. -- notwired notwired's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36797 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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I share your frustration. The only way I can use my SB radio is by starting it up holding down the rewind button so that it is on 7.42 firmware. If I don't do that, I am revisiting the radio in less than an hour to restart it and get it playing again. This is totally messed up and I don't see any solutions coming quickly. I am so frustrated I posted a review on Amazon yesterday advising people not to buy until the OS gets fixed. -- shacky4 shacky4's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37600 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Did you get the 7.5.1 update for SBS? I've successfully updated two SBRs without any issues and they're both working great. No pauses on radio or Slacker. You could also downgrade to 7.4.2. -- egarc egarc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37345 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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You had successfully rolled back to 7.4, why did you update again? http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=539490#post539490 Nightlies are beta, I'd strongly advise not using those if you expect stability. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Yes I did get the update. The radio just sits there at the spinning wheel animation trying to access anything at MSB. Favorites-wheel Internet Radio-Local-wheel Apps-wheel It will only work if I A. Re-boot it, but then it only works for 10 min or so B. Press a preset button- it goes to the preset but accessing anything on MSB from the home screen results in the animation running forever. C. Run SBS and connect through that. However that is not an option as I bought the radio so I didn't have to have the computer running all the time. Apologies for the tone of my orig post but I'm very frustrated. egarc;543093 Wrote: Did you get the 7.5.1 update for SBS? I've successfully updated two SBRs without any issues and they're both working great. No pauses on radio or Slacker. You could also downgrade to 7.4.2. -- JonInAtl JonInAtl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37231 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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I was hoping that some progress had been made. Apparently there is no way to stop the radio from nagging to install the update. toby10;543094 Wrote: You had successfully rolled back to 7.4, why did you update again? http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=539490#post539490 Nightlies are beta, I'd strongly advise not using those if you expect stability. -- JonInAtl JonInAtl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37231 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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JonInAtl;543101 Wrote: I was hoping that some progress had been made. Apparently there is no way to stop the radio from nagging to install the update. Pretty sure you can simply ignore it. IIRC, you just press (or hold) the left-arrow, or maybe the Home button. I don't recall how often it prompts you, maybe once or twice per day, but it's not constant. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if you find that the connectivity problems aren't with the firmware on the Radio, but are on mysqueezebox.com's end. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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JonInAtl;543101 Wrote: I was hoping that some progress had been made. Apparently there is no way to stop the radio from nagging to install the update. Well, there is if you are running you own SBS. It may be found in the Advanced/Software Updates section of the SBS web preferences (my Radio never nags me as a result even though my SBS is 7.6 and my Radio 7.5.1). I am not sure you are able to access these settings in mysb.com, though. So your best bet may be a more efficient server (like a MacMini, which I use - only 15W when idle - or a sheeva plug etc) if energy consumption is your concern. -- copperstate copperstate's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34756 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] I am getting totally fed up!
JJZolx;543105 Wrote: Pretty sure you can simply ignore it. IIRC, you just press (or hold) the left-arrow, or maybe the Home button. I don't recall how often it prompts you, maybe once or twice per day, but it's not constant. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if you find that the connectivity problems aren't with the firmware on the Radio, but are on mysqueezebox.com's end. I think it was selecting the help item and the pressing home (as said, I don't have that problem anymore). -- copperstate copperstate's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34756 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
