Re: Intellectual Starvation!

[Claudiu Balciza]

how about programming ?

Claudiu

- Original Message - 
From: Jamie Carl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 08:20
Subject: Intellectual Starvation!


> Hey pplz..  I'm running out of groovy things to learn under
> Red Hat 6.0  ..  I've just done remote X-Windows, Masqarading,
> Software Raid, SRP Excrypted networking, Samba setup and I've
> even got my parallel Zip drive working beautifully..  
> 
> What else can I learn??  What other groovy tricks can Red Hat
> Linux do that I might find interesting?
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Thanx babes..
> 


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apache cgi-bin in ~user ?

[Claudiu Balciza]

There is a UserDir apache config option which maps [www.myserver.com]/~user
into some directory where users may keep public html docs.
I would like to allow them execution of cgi-bin scripts from
www.myserver.com/~user/cgi-bin

How can I accomplish that ?

TIA
Claudiu


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password-less account?

[David Taylor]

Just wondering ... how on earth do I create a password-less account on a
RH6.1 system using MD5 shadowed passwords?  I thought all I had to do
was blank the password field, but that does not appear to work.  I've
checked "man passwd" and some of the PAM documentation... I can't find
anything about it.

Any quick answers?

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Re: Intellectual Starvation!

[Perry Blalock]

Hello Jamie,

Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 10:20:24 PM, you wrote:

JC> Hey pplz..  I'm running out of groovy things to learn under
JC> Red Hat 6.0  ..  I've just done remote X-Windows, Masqarading,
JC> Software Raid, SRP Excrypted networking, Samba setup and I've
JC> even got my parallel Zip drive working beautifully..  

JC> What else can I learn??  What other groovy tricks can Red Hat
JC> Linux do that I might find interesting?

JC> Any ideas?

JC> Thanx babes..

JC> 



Multiple parallel processing :-)

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Intellectual Starvation!

[Jamie Carl]

Hey pplz..  I'm running out of groovy things to learn under
Red Hat 6.0  ..  I've just done remote X-Windows, Masqarading,
Software Raid, SRP Excrypted networking, Samba setup and I've
even got my parallel Zip drive working beautifully..  

What else can I learn??  What other groovy tricks can Red Hat
Linux do that I might find interesting?

Any ideas?

Thanx babes..




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Re: [Fwd: New boot hd]

[Jeff Smelser]

Philippe Moutarlier wrote:
> 
> I am confused about what you did :
> 
> To install lilo you need a running system. If you replace you hard drive "on the 
>spot",
> that means you probably had to install your new hard drive somewhere else than hda. 
>Right ?
> 
> At the very least, at the time you run lilo, your /boot points to the location
> of your old boot directory.
> 
> Keep in mind that at the time you are running lilo, it understands the CURRENT
> directory structure NOT the new one yet.
> 
> Say you installed your new hard drive on /dev/hd_x
> mounted on /new_hd
> You copy your old /boot under /new_hd/boot
> 
> Then you need to put this in your lilo.conf (SAVE the old one as you will
> need it after reboot)  :
> 
> #where lilo will put the MBR with respect to the current system
> boot=/dev/hd_x
> 
> #where are the files needed by lilo to build its tables.
> map=/new_hd/boot/map
> 
> install=/new_hd/boot/boot.b
> 
> image=/new_hd/boot/bzImage-2.2.13-1
> 
> Be careful : after reboot, you will need to copy your old lilo.conf back in place
> before you run lilo again. In fact you should do it right away and run lilo
> again to make sure.
> 
> Philippe

Did it.. :(

for some reason it acts as if I have not even wrote to the mbr. This is
the first time I have run into this.. I have a feeling this is hardware
problem or I am over looking something..

Jeff


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Install on IBM 701CS Laptop Crashes w/ Signal 11

[Steve]

I am trying to install RH6.1 on to an old IBM 701CS Laptop (486 8mb ram) via
NFS. It starts the install and exits abnormally with a signal 11. Does any one
have a clue what this means or how to fix it?

TIA,
Steve


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Linux network problems - need help

[Wellington Terumi Uemura]

First of all,sorry about my bad english,when we talk about linux problems 
it's a kind a hard to me to explain,becose,this is an english that i didn't 
learn at school.

My server it's an Redhat 6.0 compatible (portuguese ver name 
Conectiva4.0,kernel 2.2.12-5)with 2 interfaces eth0 and eth1.
eth0 IP = 192.168.0.3 Intelpro 100
eth1 IP = 192.168.1.3 VIA86c100A

I'm not using a modem to connect to Internet,i have an ISDN TA/ROUTER name 
YAMAHA it's an 10M router.And i'm connecting to this router via LAN instead 
COM port,and the IP of this device is 192.168.0.1 .So,all the configurations 
of my ISP go inside this router,ISP phone number,DNS primary and secundary 
of the ISP etc.And with a browser i can ask to the router to make the 
connection with my ISP.

The problem,i can't reach the internet using 2 interfaces:

Before i get into this trouble,i was using just one interface eth0,and all 
clients and linux was accessing the internet just fine.But,i never got my 
ipchains to work with that configuration,and to try to make ipchains and 
MASQ to work,i installed a second LAN card to work as eth1.So my intention 
was,separate things,to MASQ my internal IPs to external.But it's not working 
at all.
I also have a "fake,not valid outside my intranet" DNS that was running on 
my eth0 device,now with 2 interfaces i dont know what to do!
My DNS dont work anymore,my machines can't reach the internet.If i shutdown 
one interface eth0 or eth1 the dns and internet start to work again??
My interfaces are up and running,with ifconfig i got no errors on the 
devices.
lsmod does't show nothing wrong:
[root@server /root]# lsmod
Module  Size  Used by
via-rhine   8840   1  (autoclean)
eepro100   12112   1  (autoclean)

Any one got an ideia of what is going on here???I read the HOWTOs,docs and 
can't find a anser to this problem.
How can i work this out?
How can i sign the IP from my ISP to the internal machines?

The organization of my little intranet looks like this:

The router is connected directly  on Linux interface eth1.
The interface eth0 it's connected directly on my HUB (8 channels 10/100 auto 
switch).
All my clients(5 in total,3 G4s and 2 WIN98)it's connected to this HUB 
too.The gateway of the clients are set to look on 192.168.0.3(eth0).
The ipv4 routing it's running and this it's my /etc/sysconfig/network:
NETWORKING=yes
FORWARD_IPV4=yes
HOSTNAME=server.wtulinux.co.jp
DOMAINNAME=wtulinux.co.jp
GATEWAY=192.168.0.1
GATEWAYDEV=eth1

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Re: DSL/Bellsouth

[Jim Morris]

Kurt Brust wrote:
> 
> so you have to use one of thier NIC's?

No - in fact, when the installer was here, just to speed things up, we
used my existing Linksys card, disconnecting it from my hub, and hooking
it up to their modem.  The installer comes out with a 3COM 10/100 PCI
card though, intended to hookup to the modem. He just gave that to me in
the shrink-wrapped 3COM box, and told me to use it to hook back up to my
internal LAN.

If you use your own card, or change cards later, the key is just calling
Bellsouth's ADSL support desk, and telling them the MAC address you are
using for the account

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Re: DSL/Bellsouth

[Jim Morris]

Kurt Brust wrote:
> 
> Time warner here in Charlotte, NC, no longer requs you to "login" , is there
> such a thing with Bellsouths ADSL? if so is there a linux app out there?
> 

No - Bellsouth simply uses DHCP assignment to a hard-coded MAC address. 
What this means is that if I change the ethernet card that is connected
to the ADSL modem (an Alcatel ADSL 1000), then I must call Bellsouth's
tech support, and give them the new MAC address to put into their DHCP
server's config files.

No special application is required.  I just used Linuxconf to set the
ethernet device to use DHCP assignment, with pump.

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RE: SW RAID Q:

[Hossein S. Zadeh]

On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, yukon wrote:

> For future use (and depending on if you've got autoraid compile -
> something I'd advise against if you value your data), just use
> raidstart /dev/md0.

May I ask why you advise against autodetection of software raids?

Hossein



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Re: Telnet Hanging

[Chuck Mead]

On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Paul R. Watkins said:

PRW>
PRW>
PRW>I've upgraded to RH6.1 --- telnet now just hangs --
PRW>
PRW>I can get the following response
PRW>
PRW>Red Hat Linux release 6.1 (Cartman)
PRW>Kernel 2.2.12-20 on an i686
PRW>
PRW>but no log in prompt.
PRW>
PRW>What do I need to do to get this working?
PRW>
PRW>I can ftp to the server and the httpd server works fine -- the problem seems only
PRW>to be with telnet.

Update the hosts files.

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Re: Concept - Ipchains and VHOSTS

[Hossein S. Zadeh]

On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Perry Blalock wrote:

> What I'd like to do, but can't seem to visualize at the moment, is to
> setup multiple domains (inside private), and virtual hosts on apache,
> and access them all by name, www.this.xxx and www.that.xxx, via the
> single public ip address.  The bottom line is that I want to hosts
> multiple (free) websites (supporting php and mysql), control the
> domains for those sites via my own primary DNS, but I only have one
> public ip address to use.


Virtual hosting on a single subnet is by apache "seeing" what the
requested name was/is. I don't know the exact details of how port
forwarding is implemented. If your apache "sees" the original request,
then you're home free; otherwise you're out of luck. 

If I were you, I'd check apache logs to see if visits "appear" to be
coming from your firewall, or from the original requester.

In other words, if port forwarding is done the same as masqurading, then
you cannot have virtual hosting on a single IP; however if it does "just"
port forwarding, then you merely need to setup apache for the virtual
domains, setup the domains' delegations (so people can find you), and away
you go

cheers,
Hossein


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Telnet Hanging

[Paul R. Watkins]

I've upgraded to RH6.1 --- telnet now just hangs --

I can get the following response

Red Hat Linux release 6.1 (Cartman)
Kernel 2.2.12-20 on an i686

but no log in prompt.

What do I need to do to get this working?

I can ftp to the server and the httpd server works fine -- the problem seems only
to be with telnet.

Paul




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RE: samba server not browseable

[Chad W. Skinner]

Something similar has occurred on my setup at work, but it generally deals
with my having windows up and changing the configuration on the server or
the server being down do to the power failing over night and my not knowing
it (no ups, ARRGGHHH!!). Anyway, It has been my experience that you should
restart '98 to reconnect to the server or you can't browse the network. The
funny thing is logging out does not fix it, only restarting.

Chad

> -Original Message-
> From: Charles Galpin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 7:07 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: samba server not browseable
>
>
> Funny it works now.
>
> What changed? mmh. I'm not sure exactly what did it, but this is basically
> what I did the last few minutes
>
>  changed the following samba settings
>
> preferred master = Yes
> local master = Yes
> domain master = Yes
>
> restarted the smb server. this didn't help at this point. I might have
> rebooted the win98 box at this point too..
>
> changed a few permissions and owners on my shares, restarted smb.
>
> restarted win98.
>
> at this point I noticed I could browse.
>
> go figure.
>
> hth
> charles
>
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Hidong Kim wrote:
>
> > Charles Galpin wrote:
> > >
> > > This is not critical, but would be nice
> >
> > I've seen the exact same problem.  It's not fatal since you can map the
> > drive.  But the bummer is that since the machine didn't show up in the
> > Network 'Hood, I couldn't access the samba server's printer.  Or I
> > couldn't figure out a way to do this.  The workgroup names in the samba
> > server and the windows machine were correct.
> >
> > Hidong
>
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RE: SW RAID Q:

[yukon]

You have to initialize the raid-set:

mkraid --really-force /dev/md0

(why someone thought we were "really" stupid and made the option "really-force"
is beyond me.)

The disks must be partition such that (in your case) sda1 and sdb1 are the
entire disks.

For future use (and depending on if you've got autoraid compile - something I'd
advise against if you value your data), just use raidstart /dev/md0.

yukon

BTW: I'm assuming raidtools-0.90 et al.

On 13-Jan-2000 Edward Schernau wrote:
> I've got two 400ish MB SCSI disks of the same size, and am trying to
> make a RAID-0 set.
> 
> Here is my /etc/raidtab:
> 
> raiddev /dev/md0
> raid-level0
> nr-raid-disks 2
> nr-spare-disks0
> chunk-size4
> 
> device/dev/sda1
> raid-disk 0
> device/dev/sdb1
> raid-disk 1
> 
> I have all 4 RAID levels compiled in.
> Each disk has 1 partition, type 83 (linux).  Each is empty.
> When I run "mkraid /dev/md0" I get the following:
> 
>   handling MD device /dev/md0
>   analyzing super-block
>   disk 0: /dev/sda1, 420848kB, raid superblock at 420736kB
>   disk 1: /dev/sdb1, 420848kB, raid superblock at 420736kB
>   mkraid: aborted
> 
> What's this trying to tell me?  Thanks in advance.
> -- 
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[OT] freeing dhcp leases under win98

[Charles Galpin]

Hi

I've got myself in a bit of a bind. I was setting up a dhcp server and
initially just let the server assign an ip to my win98 machine. Once I got
the hardware address, I put in a hosts section and tried to give it a
different fixed address. 

I tried using winipcfg to release/renew the lease, but it got awfully
confuesd.

Now the win98 box says that the ip 192.168.1.7 is already in use by some
other machine.

Of course I tried stopping the dhcp server, clearing the dhcpd.leases file
and restarting it too. 

I'd love to be able to reset the win98 box's lease (any dhcp info for that
matter) and start again. I tried changing the setup back to a fixed IP,
rebooted, and then switched back to dhcp, but no luck.

This is what the server logs (constantly every minute)

Jan 13 11:25:02 penguin dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:a0:cc:32:40:f2 via
eth1
Jan 13 11:25:02 penguin dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 192.168.1.7 to
00:a0:cc:32:40:f2 via eth1
Jan 13 11:25:02 penguin dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.1.7 from
00:a0:cc:32:40:f2 via eth1
Jan 13 11:25:02 penguin dhcpd: DHCPACK on 192.168.1.7 to 00:a0:cc:32:40:f2
via eth1
Jan 13 11:25:02 penguin dhcpd: DHCPDECLINE on 192.168.1.7 from
00:a0:cc:32:40:f2 via eth1

And this is my dhcpd.conf

subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
# --- default gateway
option routers  192.168.1.101;
option subnet-mask  255.255.255.0;
option broadcast-address192.168.1.255;

option domain-name  "juliagalpin.com";
option domain-name-servers  192.168.1.101;

option time-offset  -5; # Eastern Standard Time

range 192.168.1.200 192.168.1.250;
default-lease-time  259200;
max-lease-time  2592;

# we want these to appear at a fixed addresses
host tigger {
hardware ethernet 00:a0:cc:32:40:f2;
fixed-address 192.168.1.7;
}
}


thanks
charles


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Re: Opinions

[Manuel Camacho]

> it's really good if you're running a business with a lot of
> seats and you're going to have a professional
> IT/sysadmin/unix dude doing setup and maintenance, but for
> home use by Joe Citizen, Linux is still quite a bit of
> hassle compared to Microsoft or Macintosh.

I guess I am in Joe's category, but I love Linux for the fun of making it work!
=).

-Manuel.


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RE: Reconnecting to an x-windows session

[Uncle Meat]

On 12-Jan-00 [EMAIL PROTECTED] opined:
> I'm running intel redhat 6.1 with the KDE desktop.  My question is ... Is
> there a way to reconnect to the graphical x-windows session if you have
> used the ++ keystroke to switch to a text session?
> 
> I'm not dead in the water or anything, but I can't find any documented
> method.

CTRL-ALT-F7

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Concept - Ipchains and VHOSTS

[Perry Blalock]

Hello redhat-list,


I have single, static, public ip address on the outside of my fire
wall and have assigned a private class C to the inside.  I have also
setup my firewall to run as the primary nameserver for my domain.
Using ipmasqadm's portfw, I can also access my internal Apache web
server via port 80.

What I'd like to do, but can't seem to visualize at the moment, is to
setup multiple domains (inside private), and virtual hosts on apache,
and access them all by name, www.this.xxx and www.that.xxx, via the
single public ip address.  The bottom line is that I want to hosts
multiple (free) websites (supporting php and mysql), control the
domains for those sites via my own primary DNS, but I only have one
public ip address to use.

I'm not asking for the exact details of how to do this, I just have a
brainlock at the moment and would like a 1 ft conceptualization of
how this might be done.  I'm thinking I may have to use ipmasqadm's
mfw modulenot really sure though.

Comments certainly invited.


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Re: [ANNOUNCE] i686 only Redhat Distribution - PRE-BETA RPMS Avail.

[Manuel Camacho]

I don't have an AMD, but you may want to check December's Linux Journal article
on the subject.

-Manuel.

On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Philippe Moutarlier wrote:
> does it fit AMD-K6 II 3Dnow ??
> 
> Philippe
> 
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> > We are proud to announce a PRE-BETA release of i686 compiled RPMS for Redhat 
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> > 
> > Feel free to test them.
> > 
> > YOU MUST UPGRADE TO gcc 2.95.2 in order for these RPMS to work.
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> > DO NOT DOWNLOAD THESE PACKAGES UNLESS YOU ARE GOING TO RUN THEM ON A 
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> > 
> > Of course these packages are PRE BETA and do not have any warranty or 
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> > 
> > We are now incorporating them into an ISO image, and hope to have a BETA 
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Re[2]: IPCHAINS rules for ntp?

[Perry Blalock]

Hello Edward,

Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 12:49:36 PM, you wrote:

EM> Hi,

EM> Thanks for the rules, but I'm still getting errors. Does the 
EM> following info help determine what's going wrong?

EM> I've tried the NTP rules as you've sent in the e-mail and in the 
EM> general format I've used for the rest of the rules in my rc.firewall 
EM> file.

EM> I have default rules that deny a connection unless it is explicitly 
EM> allowed. Is that going to affect the rules I need to connect to a ntp 
EM> timeserver like tick.usno.navy.mil?

EM> [root@gate rc.d]# /usr/local/bin/ntpdate -v
EM> 11 Jan 01:12:50 ntpdate[29444]: ntpdate 4.0.98b Fri Oct 22 01:42:33 
EM> PDT 1999 (1)
EM> 11 Jan 01:12:50 ntpdate[29444]: no servers can be used, exiting
EM> [root@gate /etc]# /usr/local/bin/ntpdate ntp.ucsd.edu
EM> 11 Jan 01:10:21 ntpdate[29440]: sendto(132.239.254.5): Operation not permitted
EM> 11 Jan 01:10:22 ntpdate[29440]: sendto(132.239.254.5): Operation not permitted
EM> 11 Jan 01:10:23 ntpdate[29440]: sendto(132.239.254.5): Operation not permitted
EM> 11 Jan 01:10:24 ntpdate[29440]: sendto(132.239.254.5): Operation not permitted
EM> 11 Jan 01:10:25 ntpdate[29440]: no server suitable for synchronization found

EM> NTPDATE part of rc.firewall:
EM>  # NTP (123)
EM>  # 
EM>  ipchains -A input -i $EXTERNAL_INTERFACE -p tcp \
EM>   -s $ANYWHERE $UNPRIVPORTS \
EM>   -d $IPADDR 123 -j ACCEPT

EM>  ipchains -A input -i $EXTERNAL_INTERFACE -p udp \
EM>   -s $ANYWHERE $UNPRIVPORTS \
EM>   -d $IPADDR 123 -j ACCEPT


EM> Contents of /etc/ntp.conf:
EM> server ntp.ucsd.edu
EM> server ntp1.mainecoon.com
EM> server ns.scruz.net
EM> server tick.usno.navy.mil
EM> server tock.usno.navy.mil

EM> driftfile /etc/ntp.drift


>>On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Edward Moon wrote:
>>
>>  > Does anyone have a working set of IPCHAINS rules to allow ntpdate
>>  > client requests through an IPCHAINS firewall?
>>
>>$IPCHAINS -A input -p tcp -s $REMOTENET -d $LOCALNET 123 -j ACCEPT
>>$IPCHAINS -A input -p udp -s $REMOTENET -d $LOCALNET 123 -j ACCEPT
>>
>>  > I'm having difficulty setting up the rules for this protocol. No
>>  > matter what I try I get 'operation not permitted' messages in the log
>>  > file.
>>
>>Make sure you don't have a restrict command in your /etc/ntp.conf that is
>>preventing this. The mask could be wrong, or you could have set the flags
>>"noserve" or "ignore" which would of course prevent time service.
>>
>>--
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>>Network Systems Engineer
>>
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>>On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Edward Moon wrote:
>>
>>  > Does anyone have a working set of IPCHAINS rules to allow ntpdate
>>  > client requests through an IPCHAINS firewall?
>>
>>$IPCHAINS -A input -p tcp -s $REMOTENET -d $LOCALNET 123 -j ACCEPT
>>$IPCHAINS -A input -p udp -s $REMOTENET -d $LOCALNET 123 -j ACCEPT
>>
>>  > I'm having difficulty setting up the rules for this protocol. No
>>  > matter what I try I get 'operation not permitted' messages in the log
>>  > file.
>>
>>Make sure you don't have a restrict command in your /etc/ntp.conf that is
>>preventing this. The mask could be wrong, or you could have set the flags
>>"noserve" or "ignore" which would of course prevent time service.
>>
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Hey, I believe that if you change the port to 37 instead of 123 you'll
find that it works fine.

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Re: Tixwish-tk4.1

[Jeff Mings]

I've never seen that file before, but I'd try searching on
www.rpmfind.net.  You can find several copies of most apps/libraries/etc.
there.

-Jeff

"Pete (Online)" wrote:

> Hi
>
> I'm lookin to find out which program provide this so I can use my
> Linux Library CD seems on the custom install I missed installing
> sommething
>
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openSSH & login failure

[Hal Burgiss]

I am trying to get my feet wet with openSSH, but going nowhere fast. I
have this installed on both machines, with pretty much a default
config. sshd seems to accept my password, but the client just hangs:


>From server:

www:/usr/local/etc# sshd -d
debug: sshd version OpenSSH-1.2
Server listening on port 22.
Generating 768 bit RSA key.
RSA key generation complete.
debug: Server will not fork when running in debugging mode.
Connection from 217.78.196.97 port 2527
debug: Client protocol version 1.5; client software version OpenSSH-1.2
debug: Sent 768 bit public key and 1024 bit host key.
debug: Encryption type: blowfish
debug: Received session key; encryption turned on.
debug: Installing crc compensation attack detector.
debug: Attempting authentication for hal.
Failed rsa for hal from 216.78.197.97 port 2527
Accepted password for hal from 216.78.197.97 port 2527
debug: Allocating pty.
error: /de: No such file or directory

[WTH is this? Can't find anything in config files that might match.]

error: Failed to allocate pty.
debug: Received request for X11 forwarding with auth spoofing.
debug: channel 0: new [X11 inet listener]
debug: Forking shell.
debug: Entering interactive session.

==

>From client:

[hal@feenix .ssh]$ ssh -v iwx.com
SSH Version OpenSSH-1.2, protocol version 1.5.
Compiled with SSL.
debug: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
debug: Applying options for *
debug: ssh_connect: getuid 500 geteuid 500 anon 1
debug: Connecting to iwx.com [206.255.223.253] port 22.
debug: Connection established.
debug: Remote protocol version 1.5, remote software version OpenSSH-1.2
debug: Waiting for server public key.
debug: Received server public key (768 bits) and host key (1024 bits).
Warning: Permanently added 'iwx.com' to the list of known hosts.
debug: Encryption type: blowfish
debug: Sent encrypted session key.
debug: Installing crc compensation attack detector.
debug: Received encrypted confirmation.
debug: Trying RSA authentication with key 'hal@feenix'
debug: Server refused our key.
debug: Doing password authentication.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:
debug: Requesting pty.
Warning: Remote host failed or refused to allocate a pseudo tty.
debug: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing.
debug: Requesting shell.
debug: Entering interactive session.
Environment:
 USER=hal
 LOGNAME=hal
 HOME=/home/hal
 PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:

[This path is all screwed up. How is it determing PATH? This does not
match root's or $USER's.]

 MAIL=/var/spool/mail/hal
 SHELL=/bin/bash
 SSH_CLIENT=217.78.196.97 2523 22
 DISPLAY=www:10.0
 XAUTHORITY=/tmp/XauthPj1303
Running /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth add www:10.0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1  \
   3c5853653020433d5694e298587eec6
/usr/X11R6/bin/xauth: (stdin):1: bad display name "www:10.0" in "add" command

[Where is the display being determined? This is not set in the
environment normally.]

login: No such file or directory

[Right there at /bin/login. Hangs at this point.]

Connection to iwx.com closed.
debug: Transferred: stdin 0, stdout 130, stderr 31 bytes in 0.1 seconds
debug: Bytes per second: stdin 0.0, stdout 2549.1, stderr 607.9
debug: Exit status 1


I have no idea where to go on this. Any help is much appreciated.


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RE: Partition manager?

[Danny]

Those Tools are good but, if your office has more than one computer I suggest

- Documenting what you have now
- Reinstall Linux on the second computer with the new partition
- FTP all the necessary to the new box

- THen use partition magic or FIPS

At 09:06 12/01/00 -0600, Manuel Camacho wrote:
>1. There is always a risk on repartitioning.
>
>2. Try some specific tool such as Partition Magic or FIPS.
>
>-Manuel.
>
>
>-Mensaje original-
>De: Ganbold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Fecha: Miércoles, 12 de Enero de 2000 03:24 a.m.
>Asunto: Partition manager?
>
>
>>Is there any possibility to resize partition without data loss?
>>I have 2 partition mounted /var (270MB free) and /tmp (300MB free) and I
>>want to use free space of /tmp and add this free space to partition mounted
>>/var. How I can do that?
>>
>>thanks in advance,
>>Ganbold
>>
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Re: Announcing Red Hat Linux Training in Australia

[Danny]

Hello,

Regarding "Red Hat Linux Training in Australia"

- That training course doesn't have the "goodwill" as MCSE, CNE, Cisco
Engineer.
- Even though Linux, FreeBSD is excellent. I will never pay $4000 for it. I
would purchase the box instead.

At 11:00 13/01/00 +1100, Greg W wrote:
>
>Below is what I returned to Redhat this morning, posted here for the
>comical value, I have a nice story on RH and how they cost me 40mins on the
>phone and about $45 as wellI was part of the reseller program, they
>had my home address, was clearly stated was Australia. I was invited to
>join a teleconference, upon doing so I announced who I was, and that I
>resided in Australia. After listening for 40 mins or so of babelling on how
>good Redhat is (the company itself, not the software) we were told the
>program was not open to those outside the US, what a bunch of turkeys ! to
>say the least. They also never bothered to return an email to explain how
>this situation occurred, even after I personally emailed the speakers on
>this conference, actually because I did not even get a sorry or anything is
>why this is here.
>
>In case no one knows, you can hate MS as much as you like, but they will
>help resellers, or anyone who wants to sell there product, to a great
>extent.   
>
>Is there anyone in RH I should send all this crap too ?
>
>
>(todays whine)
>
>
>
>Hi
>
>Thought I would have a look at who I would be dealing with, who was behind
>registration in Australia, you gave http://www.ezumi.com/redhat_au.html
>
>so went to   http://www.ezumi.com
>
>
>and there is a nice web page offering much credibility on the company,
>below is the text, there is no way I am handing them close enough to $4k
>.please remove me from your mail list.
>
>web text athttp://www.ezumi.com  shown below
>===
>
>
>Yeah Baby!! 
>
>
>
>==
>
>PS the LPI has beaten you here, and looks much more credible
>http://www.lpi.org/
>
>*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***
>
>On 12/01/00 at 17:29 Red Hat Education wrote:
>
>>Red Hat -- the market leader in Linux and open source software, services
>>and information -- is pleased to announce the first series of
>>Red Hat Certified Engineer (tm) courses in Australia.
>>
>>The Red Hat Certified Engineer Program (RHCE)--the leading Linux
>>certification--is exactly what you need to build your skills and your
>>confidence. You'll learn through a comprehensive, performance-based
>>certification taught by certified Red Hat experts.  And you'll be the
>>first among your peers to earn the internationally recognised RHCE
>>qualification - the leading Linux qualification.
>>
>>  -oOo-
>>
>>ABOUT THE RHCE PROGRAM
>>
>>With the Red Hat Certified Engineer Program, you'll get the training you
>>need straight from the source--certified Red Hat experts. Through
>>intensive, hands-on courses you'll learn critical Linux skills,
>>including how to install and configure Linux and the X Windowing system,
>>how to conduct basic diagnostics and troubleshooting, and more. Then
>>we'll test you. Not using the multiple-choice questions like most
>>certification programs, but with actual tests on live equipment. Tests
>>that accurately gauge your abilities in simulated real-world situations.
>>You'll gain confidence in your skills and the confidence of your
>>clients.  The RHCE qualififcation will distinguish you as a professional
>>Linux practicioner.
>>
>>Linux is the fastest growing operating environment. Learn it from the
>>company that knows it best. You can obtain certification at your own
>>pace through one of two certification tracks: The standard track
>>includes several in-depth skill-building courses, perfect if you're just
>>getting started as an IT professional. The Rapid-Track certification
>(RH300) 
>>is ideal for Linux and UNIX system administrators, engineers and/or
>>power users, and will be the initial course offerring in Australia. 
>>(Standard track offerings will become available over the next few months -
>>- stay tuned!)
>>
>>The full RH300 course outline is available at
>>  http://www.redhat.com/products/training_course.html
>>
>>  -oOo-
>>
>>COURSE DATES AND COSTS
>>
>>RHCE Certififcation courses - including examination fees - are now
>>offered at the special introductry price of A$3,395.
>>
>>RH300 Melbourne, 31 Jan-4 FebruaryA$3,395
>>RH300 Brisbane, 14-18 FebruaryA$3,395
>>RH300 Sydney, 21-25 February  A$3,395
>>
>>  -oOo-
>>
>>TO REGISTER
>>
>>To register for these courses, please first read the RHCE Course
>>Prerequisites at http://www.redhat.com/products/training_prereq.html 
>>Then, if you believe you have the prerequisite skills and knowledge
>>please download, print and fill out the registration form 
>>(from http://www.ezumi.com/redhat_au.html) and fax it to us 
>>on (07) 3305 4140.  Hurry, as thes

Re: SW RAID Q:

[Philippe Moutarlier]

I don't use raid but usually when we talk about disk like raid-disk below,
it is supposed to be something like /dev/sda rather than /dev/sda1 (which is 
a partition).

Might help (??)

Philippe


Edward Schernau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I've got two 400ish MB SCSI disks of the same size, and am trying to
> make a RAID-0 set.
> 
> Here is my /etc/raidtab:
> 
> raiddev /dev/md0
> raid-level0
> nr-raid-disks 2
> nr-spare-disks0
> chunk-size4
> 
> device/dev/sda1
> raid-disk 0
> device/dev/sdb1
> raid-disk 1
> 
> I have all 4 RAID levels compiled in.
> Each disk has 1 partition, type 83 (linux).  Each is empty.
> When I run "mkraid /dev/md0" I get the following:
> 
>   handling MD device /dev/md0
>   analyzing super-block
>   disk 0: /dev/sda1, 420848kB, raid superblock at 420736kB
>   disk 1: /dev/sdb1, 420848kB, raid superblock at 420736kB
>   mkraid: aborted
> 
> What's this trying to tell me?  Thanks in advance.
> -- 
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Tixwish-tk4.1

[Pete \(Online\)]

Hi

I'm lookin to find out which program provide this so I can use my
Linux Library CD seems on the custom install I missed installing
sommething

Cheers
Pete


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Re: [Fwd: New boot hd]

[Philippe Moutarlier]

I am confused about what you did :

To install lilo you need a running system. If you replace you hard drive "on the spot",
that means you probably had to install your new hard drive somewhere else than hda. 
Right ?

At the very least, at the time you run lilo, your /boot points to the location
of your old boot directory.

Keep in mind that at the time you are running lilo, it understands the CURRENT
directory structure NOT the new one yet.

Say you installed your new hard drive on /dev/hd_x
mounted on /new_hd
You copy your old /boot under /new_hd/boot

Then you need to put this in your lilo.conf (SAVE the old one as you will 
need it after reboot)  :

#where lilo will put the MBR with respect to the current system
boot=/dev/hd_x 

#where are the files needed by lilo to build its tables.
map=/new_hd/boot/map

install=/new_hd/boot/boot.b

image=/new_hd/boot/bzImage-2.2.13-1

Be careful : after reboot, you will need to copy your old lilo.conf back in place
before you run lilo again. In fact you should do it right away and run lilo
again to make sure.

Philippe


Jeff Smelser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Philippe Moutarlier wrote:
> > 
> > what device is your boot drive ?
> 
> /dev/hda
> > 
> > can you send your lilo.conf ?
> 
> Well, its kind of down right now.. so memory:
> boot=/dev/hda
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot.b
> prompt
> timeout=50
> default=linux
> image=/boot/bzImage-2.2.13-1
> label=linux
> root=/dev/sda8
> read-only
> 
> I get no lilo at all. So it sounds to me its not loading MBR at all
>  
> > Philippe
> > 
> > 
> > Jeff Smelser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > I am trying to replace my /boot drive. I ran lilo on it to boot off the
> > > new drive, but when I reboot, no lilo or anything. It just sits there. I
> > > can boot from my mkbootdisk just fine. Can someone point me in the right
> > > direction?
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SW RAID Q:

[Edward Schernau]

I've got two 400ish MB SCSI disks of the same size, and am trying to
make a RAID-0 set.

Here is my /etc/raidtab:

raiddev /dev/md0
raid-level0
nr-raid-disks 2
nr-spare-disks0
chunk-size4

device/dev/sda1
raid-disk 0
device/dev/sdb1
raid-disk 1

I have all 4 RAID levels compiled in.
Each disk has 1 partition, type 83 (linux).  Each is empty.
When I run "mkraid /dev/md0" I get the following:

handling MD device /dev/md0
analyzing super-block
disk 0: /dev/sda1, 420848kB, raid superblock at 420736kB
disk 1: /dev/sdb1, 420848kB, raid superblock at 420736kB
mkraid: aborted

What's this trying to tell me?  Thanks in advance.
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Re: [OT] [Apache] Teds detailed procedure needs help.]

[Chuck Mead]

On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, p-thilts said:

p>I posted the following on the apache-list (that is where it belongs but
p>the list is not very active yet)
p>If there is anyone on this list that is an Apache expert but is not on
p>the apache list could you please get in touch with me.  Unless you are
p>knowledgeable with Apache, Perl, PHP don't waste your time reading
p>this.  I've marked this [OT] for the redhat-list and [Apache] for the
p>apache-list.  I'm just looking for help.
p>
p>I'm looking for help in completing the below detailed procedure which is
p>intended to do all the
p>following:
p>
p>*  Configure and compile the Apache Perl and PHP source modules - steps
p>which have to be done prior to compiling Apache source.  See procedure
p>below.
p>*  Do whatever operations are required so Apache will handle both MySQL
p>and PostgreSQL.
p>*  Configure Apache so that the CGI interface knows how to handle C and
p>C++ and Python.

Two comments... 

#1: Jason Costomiris builds customized binaries which do what you are talking
about and he has already answered your questions on the Apache list.

#2: Why reinvent the wheel?

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Re: [Fwd: New boot hd]

[Jeff Smelser]

Philippe Moutarlier wrote:
> 
> what device is your boot drive ?

/dev/hda
> 
> can you send your lilo.conf ?

Well, its kind of down right now.. so memory:
boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
default=linux
image=/boot/bzImage-2.2.13-1
label=linux
root=/dev/sda8
read-only

I get no lilo at all. So it sounds to me its not loading MBR at all
 
> Philippe
> 
> 
> Jeff Smelser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I am trying to replace my /boot drive. I ran lilo on it to boot off the
> > new drive, but when I reboot, no lilo or anything. It just sits there. I
> > can boot from my mkbootdisk just fine. Can someone point me in the right
> > direction?
> >
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Re: samba server not browseable

[Charles Galpin]

Funny it works now.

What changed? mmh. I'm not sure exactly what did it, but this is basically
what I did the last few minutes

 changed the following samba settings

preferred master = Yes
local master = Yes
domain master = Yes

restarted the smb server. this didn't help at this point. I might have
rebooted the win98 box at this point too..

changed a few permissions and owners on my shares, restarted smb. 

restarted win98.

at this point I noticed I could browse.

go figure.

hth
charles

On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Hidong Kim wrote:

> Charles Galpin wrote:
> > 
> > This is not critical, but would be nice
> 
> I've seen the exact same problem.  It's not fatal since you can map the
> drive.  But the bummer is that since the machine didn't show up in the
> Network 'Hood, I couldn't access the samba server's printer.  Or I
> couldn't figure out a way to do this.  The workgroup names in the samba
> server and the windows machine were correct.  
> 
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[OT] [Apache] Teds detailed procedure needs help.]

[p-thilts]

I posted the following on the apache-list (that is where it belongs but
the list is not very active yet)
If there is anyone on this list that is an Apache expert but is not on
the apache list could you please get in touch with me.  Unless you are
knowledgeable with Apache, Perl, PHP don't waste your time reading
this.  I've marked this [OT] for the redhat-list and [Apache] for the
apache-list.  I'm just looking for help.

I'm looking for help in completing the below detailed procedure which is
intended to do all the
following:

*  Configure and compile the Apache Perl and PHP source modules - steps
which have to be done prior to compiling Apache source.  See procedure
below.
*  Do whatever operations are required so Apache will handle both MySQL
and PostgreSQL.
*  Configure Apache so that the CGI interface knows how to handle C and
C++ and Python.

Therefore, when Apache web server executes it will handle C, C++, and
Python via the CGI interface, it will also handle perl scripts and perl
modules via the MOD_PERL  module, and it will handle PHP scripts via the
PHP module.  Various databases will be involved and apparently there is
a way of setting up Apache to forward SQL to a database and also the
MOD_PERL can be set up to access databases as can perl script handled by
MOD_PERL.

 Apparently the MOD_PERL  will directly handle perl scripts and the PHP
module will directly handle PHP scripts but I think the Apache conf
file(s) need to be set up for all of this so that should be included in
the detailed procedure below.  By that I mean:  For PHP set the xxx
variable in the zzz.conf file to equal .  For Perl set the, etc.

* My original request included the handling of JAVA which jason pointed
out would be JServlettes but that would also involve some Apache
configuration steps.

My only experience has been with CGI using WebSite and Netscape web
servers on Win95 as well as database servers where an SQL protocol was
used between a client GUI and the Server hosting the database.  The web
servers were set up to detect certain file types for perl, visual basic,

C, etc.  So I am also looking at doing the excact CGI thing with
Apache.  So the procedure is trying to bring several things together
including CGI.  These things take the form of 'MOD_PERL', 'PHP
module', 'CGI for bash command files, C and C++ and maybe Python',
'MySQL
and PostgreSQL for data base interaction (I'm still real fuzzy as to
what can be done here and how to set it up)', and also 'JServlette
operation and setup'.

HERE IS THE DETAILED PROCEDURE AS FAR AS I'VE GOT IT TODATE

1.  (a) cd to an installation directory (eg,
'/ted/download/apache_source/') to which the Apache source can be
extracted.  DO THE EXTRACTION AS ROOT.

After unpacking the tar source file into this directory, the first step
is to configure Apache compile.

2  (a) This is done running the configure script inside the Apache
(source) directory formed when the tarball was unpacked.   Do this as
ROOT.  The Apache source directory can be located anywhere for example

'/ted/download/apache_source/'.

[If the default location is not the same as the desired location does
that information have to be passed to the configure and make processes?
The following step assumes it doesn't]

2.  (b)  The configure command  is as follows where '#' is the root
prompt and the current directory is '/ted/download/apache_source' and
the directory structure within the tarball are below this:

# ./configure --prefix=/www

This script will examine your system and prepare a make file for Apache.

3.  (a) Note that Apache has not yet been compiled - just configured

3.  (b) Next , cd  (as ROOT) to an installation directory for PHP source
for example '/ted/download/PHP_source  and unpack the contents of the
PHP tarball  into this directory .

4.  Now while in the top level PHP source directory  configure PHP as
follows:

# ./configure --with-apache=/ted/download/apache_source/apache_1.3.x
--enable-track-vars  --with-mysql --with-postgres

[Here is where I get lost, what all is required here with multiple
databases, I know the --with-mysql is okay because I copied it from some
instructions but I have no idea if --with-postgres is legal or what
other options might be available that should also be stuck into this
command line although there is supposed to be documentation in the PHP
source which explains all the possible options, this still does not tell
me how many legal combinations and which combinations are not in
conflict.]

5.  # make

6.  (a)  # make install

6.  (b)  Runing make will create the PHP library, and running make
install will prepare Apache for including the PHP module.  Note that the
call to configure included a path to the Apache source code directory
which is the top level directory contained within the Apache tarball.

7.  (a)  Now it is necessary to do the Perl module - that must be told
about the database stuff.
[Now I am lost]

8. (a)  Once the PHP and Perl configuration and 

Re: samba server not browseable

[Hidong Kim]

Charles Galpin wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> I'm running RH6.1, samba-2.0.5a-12
> 
> Everything works great except I cannot see the samba server in the network
> neighbourhood. I can map it just fine though by specifying the name. My
> setup passes all tests in DIAGNOSIS.txt except for the last (#10) which is
> the browsing part.
> 
> This is not critical, but would be nice
> 
> thanks
> charles
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I've seen the exact same problem.  It's not fatal since you can map the
drive.  But the bummer is that since the machine didn't show up in the
Network 'Hood, I couldn't access the samba server's printer.  Or I
couldn't figure out a way to do this.  The workgroup names in the samba
server and the windows machine were correct.  



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Re: [Fwd: New boot hd]

[Philippe Moutarlier]

what device is your boot drive ?

can you send your lilo.conf ?

Philippe
 

Jeff Smelser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I am trying to replace my /boot drive. I ran lilo on it to boot off the
> new drive, but when I reboot, no lilo or anything. It just sits there. I
> can boot from my mkbootdisk just fine. Can someone point me in the right
> direction?
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Re: samba server not browseable

[Charles Galpin]

nope. same.

On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Steve Dixon wrote:

> wrong workgroup?  all that i can think of.  they always show up around
> here w/o out any intervention in 'mygroup'.
> 
> Charles Galpin wrote:
> > 
> > Hi
> > 
> > I'm running RH6.1, samba-2.0.5a-12
> > 
> > Everything works great except I cannot see the samba server in the network
> > neighbourhood. I can map it just fine though by specifying the name. My
> > setup passes all tests in DIAGNOSIS.txt except for the last (#10) which is
> > the browsing part.


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Re: Reconnecting to an x-windows session

[Philippe Moutarlier]

Well, I don't really know why, but for myself it switched
to ctrl-alt-F8 

on console 7 I get libsmb/nmblib.c error messages 

!??

Does anybody else experienced this shift to F8 ?

 
Philippe



Jamie Carl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Oops..  Bloody shift key..
> I meant ++
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jamie Carl 
> Sent: Thursday, 13 January 2000 10:49 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: Reconnecting to an x-windows session
> 
> 
> ++  
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, 13 January 2000 10:49 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Reconnecting to an x-windows session
> 
> 
> I'm running intel redhat 6.1 with the KDE desktop.  My question is ...
> Is
> there a way to reconnect to the graphical x-windows session if you have
> used the ++ keystroke to switch to a text session?
> 
> I'm not dead in the water or anything, but I can't find any documented
> method.
> 
> thanks in advance 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: samba server not browseable

[Steve Dixon]

wrong workgroup?  all that i can think of.  they always show up around
here w/o out any intervention in 'mygroup'.

Charles Galpin wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> I'm running RH6.1, samba-2.0.5a-12
> 
> Everything works great except I cannot see the samba server in the network
> neighbourhood. I can map it just fine though by specifying the name. My
> setup passes all tests in DIAGNOSIS.txt except for the last (#10) which is
> the browsing part.
> 
> This is not critical, but would be nice
> 
> thanks
> charles
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[Fwd: New boot hd]

[Jeff Smelser]

I am trying to replace my /boot drive. I ran lilo on it to boot off the
new drive, but when I reboot, no lilo or anything. It just sits there. I
can boot from my mkbootdisk just fine. Can someone point me in the right
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samba server not browseable

[Charles Galpin]

Hi

I'm running RH6.1, samba-2.0.5a-12

Everything works great except I cannot see the samba server in the network
neighbourhood. I can map it just fine though by specifying the name. My
setup passes all tests in DIAGNOSIS.txt except for the last (#10) which is
the browsing part.

This is not critical, but would be nice

thanks
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Re: RHCE passing rate?

[Bernhard Rosenkraenzer]

On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, sixx wrote:

> I would just like some comments from those ppl whom have taken RHCE300.
> I was told by my local testers that only around 20% whom took RHCE300 passed.

I think you misunderstood the tester. From what I've heard and seen, about
20% of the people who take RHCE300 fail.

LLaP
bero

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RHCE passing rate?

[sixx]

Hi ppl,

I would just like some comments from those ppl whom have taken RHCE300.
I was told by my local testers that only around 20% whom took RHCE300 passed.
There isn't an official guide book to this exam around locally and i'm stumbed
at the "high" rate of failures.
I'm actually quite concerned as i'm going for the course next week.

If you feel that the list is too public, please reply to me in private.

regards,
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Re: Announcing Red Hat Linux Training in Australia

[Greg W]

Below is what I returned to Redhat this morning, posted here for the
comical value, I have a nice story on RH and how they cost me 40mins on the
phone and about $45 as wellI was part of the reseller program, they
had my home address, was clearly stated was Australia. I was invited to
join a teleconference, upon doing so I announced who I was, and that I
resided in Australia. After listening for 40 mins or so of babelling on how
good Redhat is (the company itself, not the software) we were told the
program was not open to those outside the US, what a bunch of turkeys ! to
say the least. They also never bothered to return an email to explain how
this situation occurred, even after I personally emailed the speakers on
this conference, actually because I did not even get a sorry or anything is
why this is here.

In case no one knows, you can hate MS as much as you like, but they will
help resellers, or anyone who wants to sell there product, to a great
extent.   

Is there anyone in RH I should send all this crap too ?


(todays whine)



Hi

Thought I would have a look at who I would be dealing with, who was behind
registration in Australia, you gave http://www.ezumi.com/redhat_au.html

so went to   http://www.ezumi.com


and there is a nice web page offering much credibility on the company,
below is the text, there is no way I am handing them close enough to $4k
.please remove me from your mail list.

web text athttp://www.ezumi.com  shown below
===


Yeah Baby!! 



==

PS the LPI has beaten you here, and looks much more credible
http://www.lpi.org/

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>
>The Red Hat Certified Engineer Program (RHCE)--the leading Linux
>certification--is exactly what you need to build your skills and your
>confidence. You'll learn through a comprehensive, performance-based
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>first among your peers to earn the internationally recognised RHCE
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>You'll gain confidence in your skills and the confidence of your
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RE: Reconnecting to an x-windows session

[Jamie Carl]

Oops..  Bloody shift key..
I meant ++



-Original Message-
From: Jamie Carl 
Sent: Thursday, 13 January 2000 10:49 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Reconnecting to an x-windows session


++  



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Subject: Reconnecting to an x-windows session


I'm running intel redhat 6.1 with the KDE desktop.  My question is ...
Is
there a way to reconnect to the graphical x-windows session if you have
used the ++ keystroke to switch to a text session?

I'm not dead in the water or anything, but I can't find any documented
method.

thanks in advance 
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Re: Reconnecting to an x-windows session

[Charles Galpin]

you X session should be running on virtual console 7.

try +

charls

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> I'm running intel redhat 6.1 with the KDE desktop.  My question is ... Is
> there a way to reconnect to the graphical x-windows session if you have
> used the ++ keystroke to switch to a text session?
> 
> I'm not dead in the water or anything, but I can't find any documented
> method.
> 
> thanks in advance 
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RE: Reconnecting to an x-windows session

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++  



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Subject: Reconnecting to an x-windows session


I'm running intel redhat 6.1 with the KDE desktop.  My question is ...
Is
there a way to reconnect to the graphical x-windows session if you have
used the ++ keystroke to switch to a text session?

I'm not dead in the water or anything, but I can't find any documented
method.

thanks in advance 
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Reconnecting to an x-windows session

[pagebt]

I'm running intel redhat 6.1 with the KDE desktop.  My question is ... Is
there a way to reconnect to the graphical x-windows session if you have
used the ++ keystroke to switch to a text session?

I'm not dead in the water or anything, but I can't find any documented
method.

thanks in advance 
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Re: [OT]Apache URL expansion

[Greg W]

The simple answer would be no I guess

All webservers operate this way, however if you turn of the default pages,
you could either index all of the dir, or specify the URL as
http://www.mysite.com/index.html   which I suppose is obvious, and
not the answer you are looking fornot sure if a redirect may do
what you want..

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>Is there an easy way to make apache always fully expand urls. For example
if
>someone types in "http://www.mysite.com/" have apace show the full url of
>"http://www.mysite.com/index.html"
>
>Thanks,
>Chad


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Re: linux fdisk cannot see the whole disk!

[Zaigui Wang]

Thanks. I will try this out.

On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Dave Reed wrote:

> > Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:20:32 -0600 (CST)
> > From: Zaigui Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 
> > I have a 13G hard disk. When I use linux fdisk to do the partitions, it 
> > seems like the maximun cylinder number allowed is 1024, which ends up with
> > only about 8G. Where does the rest of the disk go? How to fix this
> > problem?
> > 
> > Thanks.
> 
> I ran into this once when setting up Linux on a friend's computer.  I
> believe the problem was that the bios and fdisk had/saw different
> representations for the # of cylinders, heads and sectors (I think I
> got the terminology correct).  Anyway, what I did was look at what the
> BIOS said those three values were and then went into fdisk's expert
> mode and told it to use those three numbers as the geometry and
> everything worked fine.  Also, make certain the partition that holds
> the /boot is entirely under cylinder 1024 (make a small /boot
> partition that starts and ends at values less than 1024).
> 
> Dave
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Re: Setting permissions for Fat32

[Tom Gilbert]

* Pete Online" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I wish to set the perssions on my fat32 drive so I can install
> vmware to it but even as root I can't write to it can I get a little
> help please, I'm the only one using this machine and it's at home
> so I don't have to much to worry about as far as others accessing it
> 
> Cheers
> Pete

You need to specify the rw option in /etc/fstab to write to the
partition.

Here is my /etc/fstab line:

/dev/hda1/mnt/dos   vfatuser,rw 0 0

For permissions, you are limited by the filesystem, but maybe using
the options user, rw, uid=blah might be helpful to treat files on the
mount point as if they were owned by the user with uid blah.

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[OT]Apache URL expansion

[Chad W. Skinner]

Is there an easy way to make apache always fully expand urls. For example if
someone types in "http://www.mysite.com/" have apace show the full url of
"http://www.mysite.com/index.html"

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Re: DSL/Bellsouth

[J. Scott Kasten]

That was my experience too.  However, other telcos even go so far
as to install the network card and software on you computer.

On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 02:33:44PM -0500, Charles Galpin wrote:
> just to add to this discussion,  I have DSl through GTE and their
> installers don't touch your machine. They simply make sure the modem self
> diagnoses itself and they leave. They don't have the training to setup the
> machine ven if you wanted them to. I guess if you have windows you would
> then call for help.
> 
> charles
> 
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Re: Opinions

[Bill Carlson]

On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Neil Hollow wrote:

> I've found another way to crash linux remove the mouse from a ps/2 port while
> the machine is in linux (not X).  Do that on my box and you need to a reboot.
> Not that want to do this anyways of course.  NH
>

Hmmm...that must be machine dependent, I've removed a PS/2 mouse from a
machine before, I only had to restart gpm to get it to go

Was this at run level 5 (xdm running)?

Once again x86 rears its ugly head 

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Re: Hot-Swap IDE drives?- Bill Carlson answer

[Bill Carlson]

On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Jeff Mings wrote:

> I believe I looked at Amanda- it appeared to be robust and capable, but I
> needed a way to automate the backup of the Windoze PCs from the Linux box.
> I.e., if I try to coordinate 14 Windozers to drop data into a central
> location, it would never work right - I'd have to "baby-sit" every backup.
> The little app I wrote mounts each windoze volume in a list and grabs &
> compresses whatever directories/files are in the list.  All the backup apps I
> looked at had no way of mounting windoze drives over a network and logging
> completion status.

amanda can make use of smdmount to backup WIN machines, I know plenty of
people are using it that way. Not good for getting the OS (files open when
Doze is up), but as good as it gets for the price...:)

> Tape drives themselves are almost all screwy and fickle.  Units from
> Iomega, Conner, Colorado and HP have all ended up being far more trouble than
> they were worth - stupid errors, or problems with software interaction.  An
> Exabyte SCSI tape drive is the only one that worked reliably.  Unfortunately,
> the cost of an adequate newer Exabyte drive, controller, and tape set is
> pretty steep.

Tape drives are one place where I would spend the money if backups are
worth anything at all. All I can say is DLT...

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Re: Hot-Swap IDE drives?- Bill's 2nd answer

[Jeff Mings]

Actually, my only reason for specifying a hot-swappable IDE setup is that the
drives themselves are cheap and the controller is built into the motherboard.  I
haven't been able to find pricing on the Raidzone stuff, but they LOOK like expensive
high-end units.  I'm currently trying to find out if eiware's hot data shuttle will
work with Linux.

Thanks, Jeff Mings


Bill Carlson wrote:

>
> Raidzone offers RAID over IDE with hotswap, I don't know if they are above
> your price point or not. From my research you could use their system with
> any IDE drive, but they won't sell you a setup without drives. Go figure.
>
> Seems there is some issue about their linux drivers as well, they are not
> open source but rather a binary you have to link into the kernel.
>
> Bill Carlson
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Re: DSL/Bellsouth

[Liam Seven]

On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Kurt Brust wrote:
> is anyone running ADSL (any DSL) with REDHAT? 

Runs Great with RH6 & RH6.1

> if so, how do you like it, how often does your IP address change? 

Only when I power down my box... for hardware swaps, & what-not.

Of course I've got a cron job:
0 1,13 * * * /sbin/pump -R

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Re: Hot-Swap IDE drives? - Dave Ihnat's answer

[Bill Carlson]

On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Jeff Mings wrote:

> Thanks Dave,
> 
> The Kingston carriers appear to be better constructed than the units I have,
> but more interestingly, they have a bus isolation system that allows
> hot-swapping of SCSI devices.  I can achieve the same thing with a SCSI
> RAID-style controller.  It looks more and more like I'll have to use SCSI for a
> reliable hot-swap system.
> 
> -Jeff Mings

Raidzone offers RAID over IDE with hotswap, I don't know if they are above
your price point or not. From my research you could use their system with
any IDE drive, but they won't sell you a setup without drives. Go figure.

Seems there is some issue about their linux drivers as well, they are not
open source but rather a binary you have to link into the kernel.

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Re: DSL/Bellsouth

[Hal Burgiss]

On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 12:54:37PM -0500, J. Scott Kasten wrote:

[...]

> I'm not sure I'd be so brazen about it.  There's been a number of
> people who have written into this list indicating that they've been
> cut off when it was discovered that they were running something
> other than the "norm".  Just go back through the archives.  Now is
> this true or just the usual cultural fairy tales?  Who knows.  I'm
> sure many of the support and other engineer types probably know
> there's no valid technical reason not to provide service to other OS
> types.  However, there's equally valid reasons from the marketing
> and support management side of things.  First, when you sign up as a
> customer, they as a telco take on a legal obligation to provide you
> with a functional service in a set time frame.  They don't wish to
> open themselves to liabilities stemming from failure to meet that
> obligation when their techies have to support platforms that they
> are not properly trained on.  Hog wash asside, this is a simple
> marketing/business decision based on risk.  Next, we come to the
> bandwidth issues.  Win95,98, NT Workstation, Mac OS are not
> inherently servers.  Linux and others are.  They don't want you
> running hidden servers for the price of a dialup.  I was
> specifically tould that my connection would be monitored and cut off
> if they found incomming syn packets indicating that I was running a
> server, unless of course I paid twice the going rate as a useage
> tax, in which case they didn't care.  So, that's what I did, upgrade
> to a business customer.

My comments are strictly limited to BellSouth. Running any public
server is verboten, but running a 'server OS' is not. If you run a
webserver or such, you likely get the axe. It is no doubt true that
the installers make claims like was reported here, but they are wrong.

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[Steve Borho]

On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 08:46:18PM +0100, Bernhard Rosenkraenzer wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Bill Carlson wrote:
> 
> > I can see you haven't had this happen to you. The keyboard is gone, the
> > mouse is gone, the display is toast. Trust me, I fiddled with this for
> > quite a while, upgrading to a new release of XFree86 made the problem go
> > away. You can kill the X server all you want, the trick is to get
> > something to tell the card to do back to text mode!
> 
> Using SVGATextMode to switch to graphics mode and back should do the
> trick.

Since the X server runs as root and directly talks to the hardware, it can
cripple your machine just as effectively as any miscreant kernel driver.

I've had buggy Xserver/video card combinations lock up machines hard many
a time.  Once your video card decides to lock up your PCI bus, there's not
much you can do about it but remove power for a few seconds.  It's the
price you pay for commodity hardware.

It's always been my experience that Linux is as reliable as your hardware.
With PC's, this isn't saying much (which explains why I use a DEC Alpha
and a Netwinder at home).  In some applications, being as reliable as the
hardware is not good enough (some engineering jobs require processes to
run for weeks on end and it would be unforgivable to loose a weeks worth
of computation because your power supply or network card croaked).  For
most of us, though, it's perfectly fine.

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Re: DSL/Bellsouth

[Hal Burgiss]

On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 01:06:00PM -0600, Vidiot wrote:
> >On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 11:34:51AM -0500, Hal Burgiss wrote:
> >> Just a general observation that probably applies to DSL
> >> implementations from all the baby bells and telcos...it is
> >> inherently more complicated setup when you start adding the
> >> necessary hardware layer at the telco CO. It is just one more
> >> thing that can go wrong, and the technology there is still very
> >> new. I find DSL not quite as reliable as dialup. While they
> >> advertised 'always on', doesn't mean 'always up'. BS does give a
> >> free dialup account so when DSL is down, you are not out in
> >> woods.
> >>
> >
> >Hugh?  DSL should be inherently much more reliable than modem
> >dial-up.  I've never heard of consistend outages that couldn't be
> >traced to the line or other faulty equipment.  Once replaced, it
> >should work rock solid.  I'd be contacting someone and complaining.
> >J. Scott Kasten
> 
> J. is correct.  I have a DSL circuit that i run my web server on.
> It is up 24x7x365.26.  The only time it has failed is because of
> line problems.  I'm in an old area that is now short of pairs.  The
> first pair went bad over July 4th, which took forever to get fixed.
> But that when I was just getting started and it didn't affect my web
> site yet.  The "new" pair was marked bad, but thery couldn't find a
> problem.  Wekk it showed up a few weeks ago.  But, here is the neat
> part, the DSL portion worked, but the voice portion failed.  I was
> without phone service for a couple of days and didn't discover it
> until I went to make a call and didn't have dial tone.Long story
> short, the pair partially shorted out.  At least 600 ohms so that it
> siezed dial tone.  Of course dial tone was terminated after a while.
> Not being shorted enough, DSL kept working.  I knew it was shorted
> when I used my cell to pick up messages and I was put into voicemail
> immediately.  The tech verified the short and they used my original
> line pair, which still had battery.  I've been operating without
> problems since.
> 
> So, here is a case where voice died but DSL kept working.  In Buffy
> speak; fire bad, DSL good.

I have BS FastAccess DSL running 24/7 since August. I have been down
probably 7-8 times. At least 5 due to packet storms on the subnet,
and twice because the DHCP server was not responding. These are
relatively minor inconveniences mostly. The longest was about 36 hours
one time on the DHCP server. I was able to plug in a static IP and
keep going, but I doubt most BS customers know how to do this. Of
course, residential service has a 'best effort' guarantee. Business
users pay for more, and should get more. I can dig up many other
reports of types of outages that just don't happen with traditional
dialup type networks, which is where this started. There is a thread
now from a BS customer on comp.dcom.xdsl who was down for 3 weeks
because of a problem in the DSLAM. He logged 30 hours of phone calls
to BS tech support to get this straightened out. This was a one person
outage. Another one from a guy who had voice phone problems, phone guy
fixes problem outside somewhere and customer immediatley looses sync
on his 'modem'. The phone guy was clueless to DSL, and had moved the
wire pair. It took a number of days to get this straightened out.  You
don't get these kinds of problems on dialup.  The point being that the
DSLAM/telco DSL does add a hardware layer that makes for a more
complex network.  You've got BS.net responsible for one side of the
connection, and BS.telco the other.

Of course, it may be like Father Sarducci's weather report, 'its
either gonna be rainin tomorrow or not, just kinda depends on where
you are'. ;)

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Re: Hot-Swap IDE drives?- Bill Carlson answer

[Jeff Mings]

I believe I looked at Amanda- it appeared to be robust and capable, but I
needed a way to automate the backup of the Windoze PCs from the Linux box.
I.e., if I try to coordinate 14 Windozers to drop data into a central
location, it would never work right - I'd have to "baby-sit" every backup.
The little app I wrote mounts each windoze volume in a list and grabs &
compresses whatever directories/files are in the list.  All the backup apps I
looked at had no way of mounting windoze drives over a network and logging
completion status.
Tape drives themselves are almost all screwy and fickle.  Units from
Iomega, Conner, Colorado and HP have all ended up being far more trouble than
they were worth - stupid errors, or problems with software interaction.  An
Exabyte SCSI tape drive is the only one that worked reliably.  Unfortunately,
the cost of an adequate newer Exabyte drive, controller, and tape set is
pretty steep.

Thanks,
Jeff Mings

Bill Carlson wrote:

> On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, Jeff Mings wrote:
>
> > Short summary:
> > Although there are RAID controllers that make hot-swapping SCSI drives
> > seem simple, I was wondering if anyone has found a safe way to hot-swap
> > single IDE drives without setting up any kind of RAID array.
> >
>
> Sounds like you're pretty happy with your backup solution, I was wondering
> if you had checked into amanda, it is a great backup solution.
>
> Was your issue with tape drives about the actual hardware and stability of
> tapes or getting the data to the drive? Just curious...amanda does a great
> job there as it can handle the tape drive screwing up in the middle of a
> backup run, it dumps everything to disk and makes it easy to flush it out
> to tape at a later time...
>
> Bill Carlson
> 
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Re: Opinions

[Dave Reed]

> From: Bill Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> 
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Ward William E PHDN wrote:
> 
> > A lot of folks, such as Nate here, have been saying that Linux rarely
> > crashes.
> 
> I was going to comment that Linux does crash, you beat me to it. Over the
> years I've found 3 things that usually the cause of a crash (not including
> fork bombs and stuff like that. Linux can seem dead if it is really really
> busy, but if one is patient one can usually fix the problem).
> 
> 1. XFree86 - Nothing kills a machine faster than buggy video drivers.
> Sometimes only the display gets wacked and one can telnet in and reboot
> the machine, sometimes not.


As was already mentioned, an X-server problem should not lock up the
machine - you should be able to telnet it or use virtual consoles to
log in again and kill the X-server.  This is not to say that it can't
happen as it is practically impossible to build large software systems
w/o any bugs.


> 2. Bad hardware - I'm fighting this right now. I have two identical
> machines (well, the setups are identical, some of the cards might be at
> different revisions, but still the same model). One machine locks up SOLID
> sometime in the middle of the night, usually when something intensive is
> going on. Same hard drive (so I know it is not a software problem) in the
> other machine works just fine. I suspect heat is causing me a problem,
> don't know. The point is that bad memory or a flaky video card can't
> magically be isolated by Linux, this is the curse of x86 hardware.
> 
> 3. Heat - Again, if the hardware starts acting flaky, there is nothing the
> OS can do on x86.


Neither of these are Linux's fault - you can't blame software for
crashing on bad hardware.

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Re: DSL/Bellsouth

[J. Scott Kasten]

On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 01:11:02PM -0500, Hal Burgiss wrote:
> > Hugh?  DSL should be inherently much more reliable than modem dial-up.
> > I've never heard of consistend outages that couldn't be traced to
> > the line or other faulty equipment.  Once replaced, it should work
> > rock solid.  I'd be contacting someone and complaining. 
> 
> "Should", yes, but "is"? Once replaced, sure it works great. But it is
> one more link in the chain that can break. And it *does* happen. Check
> some of the DSL newsgroups (like comp.dcom.xdsl), they are chock full
> of people complaining loud and hard. My own service has been pretty
> reliable. But I see reports in BS support NG in other markets. If
> Miami is not down at least 3 times per week (sometimes for days at a
> time), it is a rare week indeed.  There are plenty screaming over
> this, but BS is a monopoly and the screams just bounce. If it is more
> reliable than dialup, then why give a free dialup account with it?
> 
> -- 
> Hal B
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Interesting.  That goes against my experience.  I use GTE in central
KY.  I run a web server behind it 24/7.  Cannot say that I've had any
detectable down time in over 6 months, nor has anyone else I know.

As far as one more link, no not really.  DSL should not imply any
more hops/hardware to go wrong than dialup.  Honestly, it just sounds
to me like they don't have their act togeather.  The few proplems I've
heard in this area have all been traced to specific things that could
be repaired/replaced to restore normal service.

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Re: DSL/Bellsouth

[Vidiot]

J. Scott Kasten has posted:

>I'm not sure I'd be so brazen about it.  There's been a number of people
>who have written into this list indicating that they've been cut off
>when it was discovered that they were running something other than the
>"norm".  [...]

TDS Metrocom also doesn't officially support Linux either, but they don't
stop it either.  I'm not the only Linux account that has been connected to
their DSL.

I guess I have the advantage in that a competitor installed DSL before
Ameritech.  I've heard no word when they are going to offer it either.

MB
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RE: Opinions

[Bill Carlson]

On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Bernhard Rosenkraenzer wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Bill Carlson wrote:
> 
> > I can see you haven't had this happen to you. The keyboard is gone, the
> > mouse is gone, the display is toast. Trust me, I fiddled with this for
> > quite a while, upgrading to a new release of XFree86 made the problem go
> > away. You can kill the X server all you want, the trick is to get
> > something to tell the card to do back to text mode!
> 
> Using SVGATextMode to switch to graphics mode and back should do the
> trick.

Can you do that over a telnet session? I suppose it should work. Would
that fix the keyboard and mouse as well?

Like I said, I haven't seen that problem for a long time, but someone else
might be in the middle of it right now.

Note: The X server can't muck up kernel space, but it does talk directly
to the hardware and can certainly screw that up.

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Re: DSL/Bellsouth

[Vidiot]

>"Should", yes, but "is"? Once replaced, sure it works great. But it is
>one more link in the chain that can break. And it *does* happen. Check
>some of the DSL newsgroups (like comp.dcom.xdsl), they are chock full
>of people complaining loud and hard. My own service has been pretty
>reliable. But I see reports in BS support NG in other markets. If
>Miami is not down at least 3 times per week (sometimes for days at a
>time), it is a rare week indeed.  There are plenty screaming over
>this, but BS is a monopoly and the screams just bounce. If it is more
>reliable than dialup, then why give a free dialup account with it?
>Hal B

Could be why TDS Metrocom doesn't give out a free dialup account, since
their end of the DSL has never gone down in over 6 months (when I got
connected).

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Re: DSL/Bellsouth

[J. Scott Kasten]

On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 01:05:45PM -0500, Jeff Graves wrote:
> How in the hell can they use dynamic IPs if you're "always 
> connected"? Wouldn't that require a static ip?
> 

Nope, that's what DHCP is for.  This provides a mechanism to
renew/replace IP addresses on the fly.  Normally, while the
box is up, the IP address is just renewed when the lease time
runs out.  However, in rare situations, it will get replaced.
When it gets replaced, there is technically a few milliseconds
when you can't talk to anyone, and of course, all open conections
would get dumped, but that's the way it works.

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Re: Hot-Swap IDE drives? - Dave Ihnat's answer

[Jeff Mings]

Thanks Dave,

The Kingston carriers appear to be better constructed than the units I have,
but more interestingly, they have a bus isolation system that allows
hot-swapping of SCSI devices.  I can achieve the same thing with a SCSI
RAID-style controller.  It looks more and more like I'll have to use SCSI for a
reliable hot-swap system.

-Jeff Mings

Dave Ihnat wrote:

> Sorry to step into this late.  Check out Kingston (www.kingston.com); they
> have hot-swap IDE drive carriers.  Run in the range of $100-140 USD.  There
> are other vendors who have the same thing for less, but these are rugged,
> steel devices and have served well in the past.
>
> Cheers,
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RE: Opinions

[Bernhard Rosenkraenzer]

On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Bill Carlson wrote:

> I can see you haven't had this happen to you. The keyboard is gone, the
> mouse is gone, the display is toast. Trust me, I fiddled with this for
> quite a while, upgrading to a new release of XFree86 made the problem go
> away. You can kill the X server all you want, the trick is to get
> something to tell the card to do back to text mode!

Using SVGATextMode to switch to graphics mode and back should do the
trick.

LLaP
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RE: Opinions

[Bill Carlson]

On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Bernhard Rosenkraenzer wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Bill Carlson wrote:
> 
> > 1. XFree86 - Nothing kills a machine faster than buggy video drivers.
> > Sometimes only the display gets wacked and one can telnet in and reboot
> > the machine, sometimes not.
> 
> There's no needs to reboot in this case. You can just kill the X server
> and everything will be back to normal.
> X can't mess up kernel space, so once you killed the process it's gone.
> 

I can see you haven't had this happen to you. The keyboard is gone, the
mouse is gone, the display is toast. Trust me, I fiddled with this for
quite a while, upgrading to a new release of XFree86 made the problem go
away. You can kill the X server all you want, the trick is to get
something to tell the card to do back to text mode! I never had any luck
doing that, better to clean shutdown/boot.

I've also had X completely kill a machine, no network no nothing.

C'est la kernel software.

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Re: DSL/Bellsouth

[Charles Galpin]

just to add to this discussion,  I have DSl through GTE and their
installers don't touch your machine. They simply make sure the modem self
diagnoses itself and they leave. They don't have the training to setup the
machine ven if you wanted them to. I guess if you have windows you would
then call for help.

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Re: arkeia and a Travan NS 20 drive

[Charles Galpin]

Oh yes, I thought I said that. I did a simple (but I think effective) test
of tarring up three different things on the tape ( using the
non-rewind device and doing a fsf inbetween) and then untarring all three
successfully.

Admittedly I seem to get the followign error 

/dev/st0: Input/output error

sometimes - seems like after not using the tape for a while, but it goes
away after certain commands (like mt -d /dev/st0 status). I'm really not
sure if this is an issue or not, but have had arkeia fail when the tape
was responding just fine - several time.

So I'm hoping someone with soem arkeia experience will lend a hand. I have
posted to the arkeia list, but have only gotten one reply.

thanks
charles

On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Bill Carlson wrote:

> On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, Charles Galpin wrote:
> 
> > Hi everyone
> > 
> > I bought a Seagate TapeStor STT2N-C. It's a internal SCSI drive that
> > does hardware compression. It uses 10/20gb tapes (TR-5 aka QIC 32200), and
> > is the only device off a adapatec 2930 card.
> 
> > My problems:
> > 
> > 1. I chose STD QIC for the device. I was very surprised to not see all the
> > different QIC types listed. Is this ok? If not, how do I add a new type?
> > 2. I chose QIC 25GB for the tape. there was no 10/20GB choice, and
> > couldn't find a way to add a new tape type. How do I do this?
> > 3. When i start a *real* interactive backup it says "drvie 'TRAVAN Drive'
> > is locked" repeatedly evety minute. When thi si occuring I can happily
> > access the tape with mt.
> 
> I would suspect Arkeia as the problem before looking to the tape drive.
> Have you tried tarring something to the drive and restoring it? This is a
> good thing to do, that way you know the hardware is good before adding a
> complex software piece on top...


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RE: Opinions

[Bernhard Rosenkraenzer]

On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Bill Carlson wrote:

> 1. XFree86 - Nothing kills a machine faster than buggy video drivers.
> Sometimes only the display gets wacked and one can telnet in and reboot
> the machine, sometimes not.

There's no needs to reboot in this case. You can just kill the X server
and everything will be back to normal.
X can't mess up kernel space, so once you killed the process it's gone.

LLaP
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Re: DSL/Bellsouth

[Steve Dixon]

not if you shut off your pc.

Jeff Graves wrote:
> 
> How in the hell can they use dynamic IPs if you're "always
> connected"? Wouldn't that require a static ip?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From:   Kurt Brust [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent:   Wednesday, January 12, 2000 10:00 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mike Cathey
> Subject:Re: DSL/Bellsouth
> 
> Thanks a million!
> 
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Mike Cathey wrote:
> > Kurt,
> > Just to put my 2 cents in...
> > I setup ADSL for a friend in the Chattanooga area.  For the
> first month his IP
> > didn't change.  Obviously with linux and not having to reboot
> that often it
> > doesn't change much (not knocking the other 'OS'just the
> facts), but When he
> > uses windows on the 'router' it changes on a dialy basis.  This
> is probably due
> > to the market saturation in his area though.  And just for
> reference IP
> > masquerading/NAT works quite well.  He has seen downloads in
> excess of 205K/sec.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Mike Cathey
> >
> > Kurt Brust wrote:
> >
> > > Question:
> > >
> > > is anyone running ADSL (any DSL) with REDHAT? if so, how do
> you like it, how
> > > often does your IP address change?
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
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Re: DSL/Bellsouth

[Vidiot]

>On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 11:34:51AM -0500, Hal Burgiss wrote:
>> Just a general observation that probably applies to DSL
>> implementations from all the baby bells and telcos...it is inherently
>> more complicated setup when you start adding the necessary hardware
>> layer at the telco CO. It is just one more thing that can go wrong,
>> and the technology there is still very new. I find DSL not quite as
>> reliable as dialup. While they advertised 'always on', doesn't mean
>> 'always up'. BS does give a free dialup account so when DSL is down,
>> you are not out in woods.
>>
>
>Hugh?  DSL should be inherently much more reliable than modem dial-up.
>I've never heard of consistend outages that couldn't be traced to
>the line or other faulty equipment.  Once replaced, it should work
>rock solid.  I'd be contacting someone and complaining. 
>J. Scott Kasten

J. is correct.  I have a DSL circuit that i run my web server on.  It is up
24x7x365.26.  The only time it has failed is because of line problems.
I'm in an old area that is now short of pairs.  The first pair went bad
over July 4th, which took forever to get fixed.  But that when I was just
getting started and it didn't affect my web site yet.  The "new" pair
was marked bad, but thery couldn't find a problem.  Wekk it showed up a few
weeks ago.  But, here is the neat part, the DSL portion worked, but the
voice portion failed.  I was without phone service for a couple of days
and didn't discover it until I went to make a call and didn't have dial tone.Long 
story short, the pair partially shorted out.  At least 600 ohms so that
it siezed dial tone.  Of course dial tone was terminated after a while.
Not being shorted enough, DSL kept working.  I knew it was shorted when I
used my cell to pick up messages and I was put into voicemail immediately.
The tech verified the short and they used my original line pair, which
still had battery.  I've been operating without problems since.

So, here is a case where voice died but DSL kept working.  In Buffy speak;
fire bad, DSL good.

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[Bernhard Rosenkraenzer]

On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Philippe Moutarlier wrote:

> you can get a software called xcdroast. Pretty good for me. 
> I think you find it in the redhat contrib rpms.

It's in the Red Hat Powertools.

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[Alan Mead]

You mean like this:

http://proxy.iinchina.net/~wensong/ippfvs/

I believe that this site advocates coda.  Is anyone is using it that can
describe it's actual performance.  For example, how immediate is the
mirroring?  I would want to use it as Kevin describes, to serve a networked
fs that is completely redundant.  

At 09:35 AM 1/12/00 -0500, Pieckiel, Kevin A wrote:
>Hi all.  Please comment on the following:
>
>(which is via a tape drive) by making our fileserver redundant.  That is,
>another machine that will be a live mirror of the "in-use" fileserver.  If
>anything on the active fileserver fails, we'd like things to fail-over to
>the redunant server so that the users won't see a single hiccup.

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Re: arkeia and a Travan NS 20 drive

[Bill Carlson]

On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, Charles Galpin wrote:

> Hi everyone
> 
> I bought a Seagate TapeStor STT2N-C. It's a internal SCSI drive that
> does hardware compression. It uses 10/20gb tapes (TR-5 aka QIC 32200), and
> is the only device off a adapatec 2930 card.

> My problems:
> 
> 1. I chose STD QIC for the device. I was very surprised to not see all the
> different QIC types listed. Is this ok? If not, how do I add a new type?
> 2. I chose QIC 25GB for the tape. there was no 10/20GB choice, and
> couldn't find a way to add a new tape type. How do I do this?
> 3. When i start a *real* interactive backup it says "drvie 'TRAVAN Drive'
> is locked" repeatedly evety minute. When thi si occuring I can happily
> access the tape with mt.

I would suspect Arkeia as the problem before looking to the tape drive.
Have you tried tarring something to the drive and restoring it? This is a
good thing to do, that way you know the hardware is good before adding a
complex software piece on top...


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Re: DSL/Bellsouth

[J. Scott Kasten]

On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 12:47:47PM -0500, Hal Burgiss wrote:
> I think this is all disinformation being supplied to installers by
> their employers (usually contractors). I've called tech support and I
> tell them just what I am running, the answer was 'I run Redhat at home
> too' ;). They could actually care less. They don't 'support' it in the
> sense that they will not help setup or troubleshoot unsupported
> platforms -- mainly because they are not trained for it.
> 
> This has come up in the ADSL support NG (bellsouth.net.support.adsl),
> and both techs that post there have said -- no problem. In fact linux
> comes up there fairly often. Occasionally, Solaris and BSD. They have
> gone so far as to say if anyone is refused an installation on these
> grounds, to call the ADSL helpdesk to get it straightened out. There
> may be a bit of redtape, but you can get it installed on any platform.
> 
> Hal B
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Linux helps those who help themselves

I'm not sure I'd be so brazen about it.  There's been a number of people
who have written into this list indicating that they've been cut off
when it was discovered that they were running something other than the
"norm".  Just go back through the archives.  Now is this true or just
the usual cultural fairy tales?  Who knows.  I'm sure many of the
support and other engineer types probably know there's no valid technical
reason not to provide service to other OS types.  However, there's
equally valid reasons from the marketing and support management side
of things.  First, when you sign up as a customer, they as a telco take
on a legal obligation to provide you with a functional service in a
set time frame.  They don't wish to open themselves to liabilities
stemming from failure to meet that obligation when their techies have
to support platforms that they are not properly trained on.  Hog wash
asside, this is a simple marketing/business decision based on risk.
Next, we come to the bandwidth issues.  Win95,98, NT Workstation, Mac OS
are not inherently servers.  Linux and others are.  They don't want you
running hidden servers for the price of a dialup.  I was specifically tould
that my connection would be monitored and cut off if they found incomming
syn packets indicating that I was running a server, unless of course
I paid twice the going rate as a useage tax, in which case they didn't
care.  So, that's what I did, upgrade to a business customer.

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RE: Opinions

[Alan Mead]

At 04:03 PM 1/12/00 +1300, Juha Saarinen wrote:
>%-> How timely.  I came into work early this morning to work on a
>%-> web project.
>%-> Instead, I spent a lot of the morning wrestling with my Windows 98
>%-> workstation which is in the habit of grinding to a crawl after
>%-> it has had
>%-> astronomically long uptimes (i.e., > 24 hours).
>
>I'm curious about this... my Win98 installation is quite old by now (coming
>up to two years, unless I'm mistaken) and has had gazillion bits and pieces
>of software installed. Despite this, it'll stay up for months on end, and
>usually only dies when I run something like a badly-behaved DirectX game

Well everyone tells me that Windows isn't to blame...  but how am I
supposed to find the culprit without the equivalent of system tools like
'ps'?  I don't even know what goes wrong when it starts to flail.  And what
am I supposed to do when it's something I need to run like Eudora or this
crappy DOS app that creates reports?  I have had a lot of trouble with IE 5
and I think there's an update...  I'd rather just run IE 4 but I installed
Office 2000 and it seems to insist on upgrading IE as well.  No flames if
you're a Netscape user, fine browser but I need to run a copy of IE too.

Anyway, I'm getting what I deserve for using Windows.  IMHO, the
Windows-Linux "app gap" doesn't seem quite such a compelling reason to
choose Windows when you consider the unstability that many people face.  

>Linux doesn't crash ever. Well, sometimes KDE freezes the machine to the
>point that I have to do a cold reboot, but that's really rare.

Amen.
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Re: linux fdisk cannot see the whole disk!

[Jake Johnson]

Did you try flashing your bios with the most recent version?  How old is
your mother board?

On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Zaigui Wang wrote:

> 
> I have a 13G hard disk. When I use linux fdisk to do the partitions, it 
> seems like the maximun cylinder number allowed is 1024, which ends up with
> only about 8G. Where does the rest of the disk go? How to fix this
> problem?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Opinions

[Bill Carlson]

On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Ward William E PHDN wrote:

> A lot of folks, such as Nate here, have been saying that Linux rarely
> crashes.

I was going to comment that Linux does crash, you beat me to it. Over the
years I've found 3 things that usually the cause of a crash (not including
fork bombs and stuff like that. Linux can seem dead if it is really really
busy, but if one is patient one can usually fix the problem).

1. XFree86 - Nothing kills a machine faster than buggy video drivers.
Sometimes only the display gets wacked and one can telnet in and reboot
the machine, sometimes not.

2. Bad hardware - I'm fighting this right now. I have two identical
machines (well, the setups are identical, some of the cards might be at
different revisions, but still the same model). One machine locks up SOLID
sometime in the middle of the night, usually when something intensive is
going on. Same hard drive (so I know it is not a software problem) in the
other machine works just fine. I suspect heat is causing me a problem,
don't know. The point is that bad memory or a flaky video card can't
magically be isolated by Linux, this is the curse of x86 hardware.

3. Heat - Again, if the hardware starts acting flaky, there is nothing the
OS can do on x86.


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RE: CD Recording

[Jeff Graves]

Check out XCDRoast as well. Comes with cdrecord, the best way to 
make cds.

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Sent:   Wednesday, January 12, 2000 12:48 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject:RE: CD Recording

Hi Ed,
You might want to check out
http://howto.tucows.com/LDP/HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO.html
Hope it helps.
Heather

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Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 12:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CD Recording


I've just bought a Ricoh 6x2x2 CDRW drive, and am looking forward
to burning some CDs.

Can anyone give me any quick pointers or point me to a modern
HOWTO for this?  The SCSI card sees it, and I can access 
/dev/scd0,
but I'm unsure the best way to proceed.

TIA
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Re: DSL/Bellsouth

[Hal Burgiss]

On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 12:24:28PM -0500, J. Scott Kasten wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 11:34:51AM -0500, Hal Burgiss wrote:
> > Just a general observation that probably applies to DSL
> > implementations from all the baby bells and telcos...it is inherently
> > more complicated setup when you start adding the necessary hardware
> > layer at the telco CO. It is just one more thing that can go wrong,
> > and the technology there is still very new. I find DSL not quite as
> > reliable as dialup. While they advertised 'always on', doesn't mean
> > 'always up'. BS does give a free dialup account so when DSL is down,
> > you are not out in woods.
> >
> 
> Hugh?  DSL should be inherently much more reliable than modem dial-up.
> I've never heard of consistend outages that couldn't be traced to
> the line or other faulty equipment.  Once replaced, it should work
> rock solid.  I'd be contacting someone and complaining. 

"Should", yes, but "is"? Once replaced, sure it works great. But it is
one more link in the chain that can break. And it *does* happen. Check
some of the DSL newsgroups (like comp.dcom.xdsl), they are chock full
of people complaining loud and hard. My own service has been pretty
reliable. But I see reports in BS support NG in other markets. If
Miami is not down at least 3 times per week (sometimes for days at a
time), it is a rare week indeed.  There are plenty screaming over
this, but BS is a monopoly and the screams just bounce. If it is more
reliable than dialup, then why give a free dialup account with it?

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Re: caching only name server config question

[Jerry Winegarden]

On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, R. Kuijvenhoven wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I have been setting up a caching only name server (bind) on a linux
> firewall/router. The name server seems to be working like it should.
> 
> My question is: Which DNS address do I have to put in the DNS fields of the
> windoze workstations in the LAN, the DNS addresses of my ISP or the ip
> address of the fw/router? I have tried the ip address of the fw/router but
> it did not work. Now I have set the ip address of the fw/router in the host
> field and the ip addresses of my ISP in the DNS field. This works but I am
> afraid the windoze workstations will bypass the caching only name server
> this way.
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Robert-Jan Kuijvenhoven
> 
Here's what I do:
(Assuming IPMasq box is providing IP #'s via dhcpd, assuming LAN subnet is
192.168.1.x, with the Masq box eth0 IP # = 191.168.1.1)

1) on Doze boxen:  DISable DNS   (dhcp will provide this info)

2) on masq box:   add the IP number of the masq box, 192.168.1.1, to the
option domain-name-servers statement in the 192.168.1.0 subnet
block in dhcpd.conf:

dhcpd.conf:
subnet  192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
range 192.168.1.2 192.168.1.200;
option routers 192.168.1.1;
default-lease-time 259200;
max-lease-time 2592;
option broadcast-address 192.168.1.255;

option domain-name-server  192.168.1.1, w.x.y.z, a.b.c.d;
}

(where w.x.y.z and a.b.c.d are the primary and secondary DNS servers
for my ISP)

This works great and you can demonstrate that it does:

>From a Doze box,  run ping any.valid.machine.comwhere you have not
yet accessed that machine name from any of the machines on your LAN.
Note that there is a slight pause while the DNS lookup is done out on
the net.  Then, run that same ping again.  Note how quickly it comes
back with the ping, because it looks at your 192.168.1.1 box first and
that address is now in the dns cache!  

With your (caching-only) nameserver listed first, it will get checked first

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RE: DSL/Bellsouth

[Jeff Graves]

How in the hell can they use dynamic IPs if you're "always 
connected"? Wouldn't that require a static ip?

-Original Message-
From:   Kurt Brust [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, January 12, 2000 10:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mike Cathey
Subject:Re: DSL/Bellsouth

Thanks a million!

On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Mike Cathey wrote:
> Kurt,
> Just to put my 2 cents in...
> I setup ADSL for a friend in the Chattanooga area.  For the 
first month his IP
> didn't change.  Obviously with linux and not having to reboot 
that often it
> doesn't change much (not knocking the other 'OS'just the 
facts), but When he
> uses windows on the 'router' it changes on a dialy basis.  This 
is probably due
> to the market saturation in his area though.  And just for 
reference IP
> masquerading/NAT works quite well.  He has seen downloads in 
excess of 205K/sec.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mike Cathey
>
> Kurt Brust wrote:
>
> > Question:
> >
> > is anyone running ADSL (any DSL) with REDHAT? if so, how do 
you like it, how
> > often does your IP address change?
> >
> > thanks
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Re: Opinions

[Bill Carlson]

On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, lloy0076 wrote:

> 1) Patches are a pain and a security risk in themselves
> 
> Apart from the fact that they smack of the crack in the dyke syndrome,
> who says you can apply a patch perfectly...

All depends on the patch...this is where Linux really shines, not the Code
itself but the community, this list being a prime example. New security
patch? Odds are if there are problems you will know about that before you
see the orginal patch announcement.

> 
> 2) Who says there couldn't be developed a GUI front end which rebuilt a
> kernel behind one's back
> 
> lolWINCRAP says "I am installing your new S3 Virge Drive...please
> wait"...why can't KDE say "I am installing your new SCSI device now".
> WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE? 

No No No, WINCRAP says "I see something, I think it's a APG card.
Installing drivers if I can, reboot and see if I was right (if I'm wrong,
too bad)"

The day KDE prompts me to reboot is the day I move to something else.

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Re: CD Recording

[Philippe Moutarlier]

you can get a software called xcdroast. Pretty good for me. 
I think you find it in the redhat contrib rpms.
Philippe

Edward Schernau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I've just bought a Ricoh 6x2x2 CDRW drive, and am looking forward
> to burning some CDs.
> 
> Can anyone give me any quick pointers or point me to a modern
> HOWTO for this?  The SCSI card sees it, and I can access /dev/scd0,
> but I'm unsure the best way to proceed.
> 
> TIA
> -- 
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Re: DSL/Bellsouth

[J. Scott Kasten]

On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 11:34:51AM -0500, Hal Burgiss wrote:
> Just a general observation that probably applies to DSL
> implementations from all the baby bells and telcos...it is inherently
> more complicated setup when you start adding the necessary hardware
> layer at the telco CO. It is just one more thing that can go wrong,
> and the technology there is still very new. I find DSL not quite as
> reliable as dialup. While they advertised 'always on', doesn't mean
> 'always up'. BS does give a free dialup account so when DSL is down,
> you are not out in woods.
>

Hugh?  DSL should be inherently much more reliable than modem dial-up.
I've never heard of consistend outages that couldn't be traced to
the line or other faulty equipment.  Once replaced, it should work
rock solid.  I'd be contacting someone and complaining. 

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RE: CD Recording

[casler, heather]

Hi Ed,
You might want to check out
http://howto.tucows.com/LDP/HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO.html
Hope it helps.
Heather

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Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 12:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CD Recording


I've just bought a Ricoh 6x2x2 CDRW drive, and am looking forward
to burning some CDs.

Can anyone give me any quick pointers or point me to a modern
HOWTO for this?  The SCSI card sees it, and I can access /dev/scd0,
but I'm unsure the best way to proceed.

TIA
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Re: Redundant fileservers

[Dan Alexander]

At 09:35 AM 01/12/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi all.  Please comment on the following:
>
>We are wanting to replace our current method of backing up our fileserver
>(which is via a tape drive) by making our fileserver redundant.  That is,
>another machine that will be a live mirror of the "in-use" fileserver.  If
>anything on the active fileserver fails, we'd like things to fail-over to
>the redunant server so that the users won't see a single hiccup.
>Our fileservers run RHL 6.1, BTW, with the latest stable kernel (2.2.14 at
>present).
>
>Where do I begin?  Is this possible?
>
>I've seen much support for raid devices in mirroring drives in the same
>computer, but no Linux support for mirroring drives to another computer.
>Are there better alternatives than the idea presented here?
>
>Our monetary goals for this are aimed here --> all free software, or very
>low cost; hardware for a standard fileserver (like we already have) is
>already available less a hard drive, so we look to purchase ony a matching
>hard drive for that which is in our current fileserver.
>
>Your comments, suggestions, and recommendataions are appreciated.
>
>Kevin A. Pieckiel


Hi Kevin, 

I haven't tried this with linux, but I have seen SFTIII running on netware
- if it follows the same principles then... 

Just a word of caution.  Hardware redundancy is not a replacement for a
good backup.  It just means you're protected against hardware failure.  If
you're mirroring a live file system and an important file gets screwed up,
it's screwed up on both systems.  

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Re: linux fdisk cannot see the whole disk!

[Dave Reed]

> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:20:32 -0600 (CST)
> From: Zaigui Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> I have a 13G hard disk. When I use linux fdisk to do the partitions, it 
> seems like the maximun cylinder number allowed is 1024, which ends up with
> only about 8G. Where does the rest of the disk go? How to fix this
> problem?
> 
> Thanks.

I ran into this once when setting up Linux on a friend's computer.  I
believe the problem was that the bios and fdisk had/saw different
representations for the # of cylinders, heads and sectors (I think I
got the terminology correct).  Anyway, what I did was look at what the
BIOS said those three values were and then went into fdisk's expert
mode and told it to use those three numbers as the geometry and
everything worked fine.  Also, make certain the partition that holds
the /boot is entirely under cylinder 1024 (make a small /boot
partition that starts and ends at values less than 1024).

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Re: DSL/Bellsouth

[Hal Burgiss]

On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 10:35:58AM -0600, Jim Morris wrote:

[...]

> If you sign up with BellSouth's ADSL server, be aware that their
> installers are basically told NOT to hook up to anything other than
> a Windows 95/98 or *NT Workstation* box.  I knew they only wanted to
> install on a Windows box, so I had Windows NT *Server* 4 SP3 running
> on a 500MB partition on my Linux box, when the installer got here.
> He balked, but I showed him their WWW page, that made no distinction
> of "Server" or "Workstation" - just "NT". He did say if I *ever*
> called their tech support, to say I was running NT Workstation, and
> never to mention NT Server, or Linux, or they might cut me off.
> 
> So, I've been running my Linux box on Bellsouth for months now, but
> just think you need to be aware that they are NOT Linux-friendly

I think this is all disinformation being supplied to installers by
their employers (usually contractors). I've called tech support and I
tell them just what I am running, the answer was 'I run Redhat at home
too' ;). They could actually care less. They don't 'support' it in the
sense that they will not help setup or troubleshoot unsupported
platforms -- mainly because they are not trained for it.

This has come up in the ADSL support NG (bellsouth.net.support.adsl),
and both techs that post there have said -- no problem. In fact linux
comes up there fairly often. Occasionally, Solaris and BSD. They have
gone so far as to say if anyone is refused an installation on these
grounds, to call the ADSL helpdesk to get it straightened out. There
may be a bit of redtape, but you can get it installed on any platform.

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linux fdisk cannot see the whole disk!

[Zaigui Wang]

I have a 13G hard disk. When I use linux fdisk to do the partitions, it 
seems like the maximun cylinder number allowed is 1024, which ends up with
only about 8G. Where does the rest of the disk go? How to fix this
problem?

Thanks.




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CD Recording

[Edward Schernau]

I've just bought a Ricoh 6x2x2 CDRW drive, and am looking forward
to burning some CDs.

Can anyone give me any quick pointers or point me to a modern
HOWTO for this?  The SCSI card sees it, and I can access /dev/scd0,
but I'm unsure the best way to proceed.

TIA
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Re: DSL/Bellsouth

[Vidiot]

>Actually, they force a disconnect which cause you to reconnect with a new
>IP.  I believe they're DHCP has this capability.
>-eric

Oh yuch!  That would suck big time if they ever did that to me.  I would
bitch big time.  Thank goodness I have a static DSL.

BTW, it is "their" not "they're" (they are).  :-) :-)

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Respawning telnet session on TTY2

[Coote, Chris F \(Regency\)]

What would be the best way to get the equivalent of a respawning telnet
session on TTY2? Through the inittab? I can not seem to direct this to a
specific TTY... Thank you in advance.

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Re: DSL/Bellsouth

[Jim Morris]

> Question:
> 
> is anyone running ADSL (any DSL) with REDHAT? if so, how do you like it, how
> often does your IP address change?

I've had DSL service through BellSouth.net since October.  It works
great. My IP seems to stay pretty stay pretty constant, for at least a
month at a time.  The way most DHCP servers work, they aren't really
going to give your assigned address to another system, unless A) The
DHCP server is reset, and forgets all the outstanding leases. Or B) You
are down for a while, and someone else comes along and gets your old IP
assigned during that time.

Basically, as long as I don't reboot or shutdown for a long time, it
appears that the same IP address keeps getting renewed every 24 hours.

If you sign up with BellSouth's ADSL server, be aware that their
installers are basically told NOT to hook up to anything other than a
Windows 95/98 or *NT Workstation* box.  I knew they only wanted to
install on a Windows box, so I had Windows NT *Server* 4 SP3 running on 
a 500MB partition on my Linux box, when the installer got here.  He
balked, but I showed him their WWW page, that made no distinction of
"Server" or "Workstation" - just "NT". He did say if I *ever* called
their tech support, to say I was running NT Workstation, and never to
mention NT Server, or Linux, or they might cut me off.


So, I've been running my Linux box on Bellsouth for months now, but just
think you need to be aware that they are NOT Linux-friendly

Jim Morris


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Re: Lilo Stop at LI - old bios, big disk

[Ryan Caveney]

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Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 6:43 PM
Subject: Lilo Stop at LI - old bios, big disk

>I have an old Dell 486/66. I put in a new 13G drive. It boots fine
>from a floppy but caLILO hangs at LI. I have tried all advice I could
>find except for upgrading the BIOS and/or motherboard.

I've had similar problems lately trying to do much the same thing.

>Changes to /etc/lilo.conf like linear or specifying the geometry have
produced no
>change, so far.

I never changed lilo.conf, just the BIOS, which fixed it readily both times.

>The disk geometry is something like 12,613 cyclinders 32 heads 63
>sectors. I can't even type five digits into the BIOS for the number of
>cylinders (the latest BIOS copyright date is only 5 years ago - what
>were they thinking?). Is there a way to just get all the info into the
>lilo.conf and find the right settings.

If the BIOS doesn't have the correct disk geometry, I don't think you'll
ever get past where you are now.  You need to make sure that what the BIOS
thinks and what the disk is actually formatted as (geometry-wise) are the
same.

>I tried 1024,16,63 because that
>worked for somebody somewhere.

Do you realize that this will mean your disk will only use 504 MB of its
capacity?  If you must use 1024 cylinders, go with 197 (floor
(16*12613/1024)) heads -- if your BIOS will let you do *that*. :}  When you
first installed onto the blank drive, what did Disk Druid say it thought the
geometry was?  In any case, telling the BIOS that without changing the
geometry (via fdisk) to the same thing will not improve your situation.

Ryan Caveney



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