Re: Dealing with Power Outage: How to Shutdown cleanly
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 09:09:23AM -0400, Reuben D. Budiardja wrote: This got me to thinking. Is there any way that a better UPS can help this situation. I see that some UPS has an RS232 interface or USB, and some software that can shutdown the machine on sustained power outage. I am wondering if this can be done also with Redhat linux 7.x, and 9. What I want is just somehow the UPS to signal the computer that it's on battery and either the a script or UPS itself shut the machine down whenever it is on Battery. I'm really ignorant on this case here, so any help is greatly appreciated. Also, if there're recommendation for those UPS that works well with linux. I've been doing this for quite a while with a CyberPower UPS and the powstatd software. Many other UPS vendors are also supported. APS and Tripplite both make a good UPS. A little google searching or visiting freshmeat.net will result in many hits and pointers to software packages that should work for you. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Funky RAM
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 09:26:49AM -0400, salvatore wrote: I narrowed down my install woes to a RAM chip in the system, removed it, and installed rh9 with no problems. With only 256mb, the system performance is less than desirable; since the POST sees all of the chips just fine, and the install is finished, is there much harm in reinserting the RAM? New RAM is on the, but Id hate to throw out a chip that the install process didnt like, and the day to day on the system would accept just fine. Anyone with similar RAM hardware experience? You seemed to have proven that the original chip is bad. Throw it out (or return it if you can). I would definitely not install it back in the system. Bad ram, especially non error-correcting ram, can cause you all sorts of grief from random crashes to disk corruption. Slow you can live with - disk corruption you probably can't. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Funky RAM
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 10:50:22AM -0400, salvatore wrote: There are three settings in BIOS: 133 100 By Spd 133 and 100 are self explanatory, but what's 'by spd'? That it'll attempt to read the speed of the individual chips? I did notice one of the chips is 133 and the other two are 100...i imagine this is a no-no? The MB is an ECS P4VXMS. This shouldn't a no-no as long as you force your speed to be 100 - PC133 chips should run fine at 100. How is your bios set now? I'd force it to 100 and then run memtest86 and see what happens. You might even want to try memtest86 before you change it to confirm that it fails now but works if you drop it to 100. I'd guess (and it's only a guess!) that by spd would probe the chips to see what the speed is. If the PC133 chip was found first, it might have used the 133 setting. Which chip did you pull to get everything working right? Was it the PC133 by any chance? -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: bind config file in redhat9
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 03:28:52PM +0100, Ross Cooney -- Cyber Sentry Ltd wrote: On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 16:44, Bilal Dar wrote: I recently installed redhat9, and there is no bind config file. Do i have to create it myself manually or i have any other option. look for the bind config file: cd /etc find -name named.conf -print If you cant find the file it may be because you dontt have bind installed! You may need to install bind. Download the RPM from the redhat.com or rpmfind.net web site. The bind package does not include named.conf. To show all the config files for a specific package, do: # rpm-qc bind The bind package does include the man package for named.conf. You may also have the redhat-config-bind package installed. You can configure bind using this. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: newbie: redhat 9.0 very slow
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 01:04:47PM -0700, Hawkeye Parker wrote: i've recently installed redhat 9.0 on an athalon 650 with 128MB ram. For starters, you are below the recommended configuration. The absolute minimum is 128MB, with 192MB recommended for a graphics workstation. http://www.redhat.com/software/linux/technical/ Your CPU should be enough, but add some memory and you'll be much happier. An extra 256MB of PC133 (which is what I'm guessing your system will need) is about $45-50. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: What's the easiest way to deal with dependencies???
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 01:51:43PM -0500, Rigler, Steve wrote: Assuming we're talking about the same Tora: Name: tora Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 1.3.9.2 Vendor: Red Hat, Inc. Release : 1 Build Date: Mon 17 Feb 2003 07:28:46 AM CST Install Date: Wed 08 Oct 2003 01:09:07 PM CDT Build Host: porky.devel.redhat.com Group : Applications/DatabasesSource RPM: tora-1.3.9.2-1.src.rpm [snip] Mine came with RH9. It's probably not available for AS (yet). Please note that taroon (RHEL 3 beta) includes tora. I would not attempt to upgrade kdelibs to resolve a dependency since you'll end up in dependency hell - many, many packages will depend on parts of kde and you'll find yourself running in circles to the point where you will not be running AS 2.1 at all by the time you're done. You have 2 basic choices: 1. Download the source rpm and recompile and hope it works. 2. Wait for RHEL 3 to ship and upgrade to that. I believe it should be released before month's end. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: samba 3
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 12:10:59PM -0700, R.E. wrote: I just insatalled samba 3.0.0 and a weird thing happens when a client maps a share. I want to share the / root directory not the root home directory. When I map the shared directory it takes me to the root home directory istead of the root (/) directory...here's my scheme: Generous snipping... [homes] [root] The homes share implies that a user can map their home directories. Well, you have a user called root, so you've got a conflict. I don't know what would have happened if you would have reversed the two entries in your conf file, but I thought I'd explain what happened anyway (I see you've worked around the issue already). -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: SendMail GUI
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 08:08:54AM -0400, Edward Croft wrote: On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 17:16, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote: At 13:12 10/16/2003, you wrote: Rodolfo needs to change the attrition like. Ed Croft is trying to steal my beer! Big man Ed speak truth. Buy beer for Ed, take Ed's advice. Um, my name's Ed too, my advice, don't bet on Grey Lady in the fifth. Now where's my beer? Since I'm not a beer drinker, but if somebody donates a beer to me, you're welcome to come over and drink it. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Red Hat mailing list archives
I've seen a bunch of complaints lately about Red Hat not providing searchable archives. Well, it turns out that it went live a couple of weeks ago and they didn't tell anybody (well, they told me about when it was in beta, but not went it went live). http://www.redhat.com/archives/redhat-list/ The archives for redhat-list go back to September 4, 1998. Naturally, all the other lists are searchable too. Enjoy! .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: SendMail GUI
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 12:06:24PM -0500, Donald Tyler wrote: My system is Red Hat Linux 9. I am willing to try anything. The most important this is security, and then speed/ease of configuration. I need to get this server up and build our clients website before the end of the month. Fun fun. The general argument I've heard and happen to agree with is that if you are already a sendmail expert or have access to one, continue with sendmail. However, if you're just starting out, go with Postfix. I've worked with both but am currently in production with sendmail both at work and at home. I switched to Postfix for a while when setting up a test server, and I much prefer the configuration ease in Postfix. I went back to sendmail simply because I know it better and because I manage sendmail servers at work. Neither one is 100% secure - develop a plan to keep your preferred MTA current, whether it's setting up2date or something else. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: max simultaneous connections from one host in wu-ftpd
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 01:30:13PM -0400, Broadcast IT wrote: Haven't found anything pertaining to this...did I miss something? Does anyone know what the default is, and is it an adjustable parameter (if so how)? Do you want maximum per a pre-determined host, or any arbitrary host? If it's a predetermined host, look at defining a class in your ftpaccess file, like so: class local real,anonymous *.foo.com 172.30.13.0/24 150.228.0.0/16 class remote real,guest,anonymous* limit remote 100 Any /etc/msgs/msg.toomany limit local 50 Any /etc/msgs/msg.toomany According to the ftpaccess man page, failure to define a limit means the connections are unlimited. Also look at the host-limit entry in the man page. The other thing you have to watch for is how fast the connections are coming in. That's an inetd/xinetd configuration. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: max simultaneous connections from one host in wu-ftpd
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 02:27:48PM -0400, Broadcast IT wrote: Looked at the xinetd config...is the cps value Connections Per Second? If so, what does 25 30 mean in real terms? man xinetd.conf /cps For those who think I'm being terse, this is shorter than copying the section from the man pages! .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Problems
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 11:39:42AM -0700, Robert Nelson wrote: RHL seems to be going the corporate or business route which is fine for those users but no help to me. Red Hat Professional Workstation is fine for the majority of SOHO user base. $82 at BUY.COM and it includes a full year of RHN updates. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: SendMail GUI
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 12:46:46PM -0600, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote: Nothing on Earth (certainly no software product) can ever be counted on to be 100% secure. Take Ed's advice, and make sure that all your software is adequately kept patched and up-to-date. In this case, although there are ways you can do so for free, I suggest that if you're getting good use out of the box (especially if you are using it for business), that you reward Red Hat for their effort and services by choosing a paid subscription to up2date for $60/year. The only problem with giving Red Hat $60 now for RHN is that Red Hat Linux 9 is only supported through the end of April. You might be better off buying Red Hat Professional Workstation for $82 (buy.com) which includes a year of RHN. More bang for the buck in my opinion. Both sendmail and postfix are part of RHEL WS on which RHPW is based, so you should be fine for those updates. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Firewall - Limit Geographic Area
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 03:13:02PM -0500, lrnobs wrote: This currently has Redhat 8. Ssh is currently loaded. I couldn't find where to stop ssh from loading at boot. Could you point me in the right direction. # chkconfig --list |grep 3:on Now turn off those services you don't want: # chkconfig sshd off # service sshd stop -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: GUI for MySQL and PHP
On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 11:28:00AM -0700, Dali Islam wrote: Hi! Is there any free and good GUI program for MySQL and PHP on redhat 9.0? phpmyadmin is quite good for working with mysql. I used it change table entries that my app wouldn't let me change, and then did a bulk upload of entries. No problems at all. I'm not a DBA but even I can work with phpmyadmin. webmin is also not too bad, but not in the phpmyadmin class. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Is there a utility like fuser or /usr/proc/bin/pwdx on RedHat 9?
On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 10:47:21AM -0400, Mark Bruen wrote: I've got an old busy mount point on /mnt/cdrom, I'd like to find out what PID is on the mount point (I've got way too many xterms to look at them all). In Slolaris /usr/proc/bin/pwdx PID or fuser -fu directory would give me the PID(s). Any utility like this on RedHat 9? lsof will do the job. I'm not sure it's installed by default, but you could grab it via up2date. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: copy old drive to new drive
On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 10:59:27AM -0700, Ian L wrote: I dont suppose there is a free utility that will let me copy a 10gig hd onto a new 120gb hard drive? There is only a single partition on the 10gb drive. I would either like to copy that into 10gb partition on the new drive, or just make a 120gb partition on the new drive and copy that over. I haven't tried it (yet), but I've heard lots of good things about Mondo Rescue - visit http://www.mondorescue.org. Alternatively, mount both drives in your system, boot into single-user mode, and do a dump/restore to the new drive. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: red hat 10 release date
On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 04:27:41AM -0400, Brian wrote: Just resubscribed to the list. What is the release date for redhat linux 10 Please read the archives and search Red Hat's web site before posting. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: file permissions.
On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 06:38:09AM -0500, David Eduardo Gomez Noguera wrote: On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 22:32, Michael S. Dunsavage wrote: So saying it's an upload dir, how bout write but no delete? On Thursday 09 October 2003 02:07 pm, you wrote: most ftp servers (I dont know all) are just jailed accounts. Just remove the perms of said program if they work that way. else, there can be some specific way for that server. upload typically implies write. write implies delete. wu-ftpd is a very full-featured ftp daemon that will allow you to control who can do what so that you can write but not delete, write but not read, read but not write, etc. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: red hat 10 release date
On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 09:43:27PM -0600, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote: Named as a caching nameserver is something I wish were included. No, it doesn't really belong in a standard workstation, but for those of using it as a SOHO single workstation/server it'd be great. As just a bit more idle speculation, I wonder whether you can up2date bind once RHPW is installed? I don't see why not... You can't, at least not in the taroon beta. bind is in a separate channel. For example, on my RHEL WS beta, I tried to install ldap-server and it wasn't there. It's there on the RHEL AS beta channel. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RH9 Installation probs
On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 07:59:15AM -0700, Kyle Gasho wrote: You could remove any un-needed PCI cards or other attached devices, and see if that makes a difference. And naturallly, don't assume that memory is not your problem just because you ran XP and it didn't complain. Prove the assumption - download something like memtest86 and make sure you really do pass. install terminated abnormally - received signal 11 Ive read on a forum that the error is sometimes down to bad RAM - i dont think thats my prob, i had WinXP running no problems. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: OpenLDAP
On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 12:18:26PM -0500, Robert Hartung* wrote: I am a little confused in the early stages of looking ino LDAP. I have a small medical office, about 45-50 PCs, that are a mix of Win98, WinNT, Win2K, and Linux [file server as Samba and print server at this stage]. No WinXP yet. I am looking for a single authentication server process that is cross- platform. It is my understanding that LDAP can serve this purpose. Is this a correct assumption? If not I can start looking down another avenue. From what I've heard, Windows doesn't really authenticate against LDAP that well. You might be better off using winbind on your Linux server to authenticate against your domain. If you don't have a domain yet, you could make the LInux server be the PDC. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: rhn account/redhat list future
On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 02:10:29PM -0400, Barry Johnson wrote: 1. With redhat giving up on consumer grade linux They're not. Please see the recently announced Red Hat Linux Professional Workstation. I was wondering what will become of this mailing list. I know many people do run redhat enterprise linux, but many more run the consumer version in server roles. With redhat moving everything over to fedora I was wondering if this list will become the defacto fedora list?? There are fedora lists. I would expect this list to to continue. It will either die a natural death eventually if people stop posting and answering, in which Red Hat will kill it, it we will all help keep it going. 2. I purchased a rhn account to help support redhat, since they won't be shipping redhat 10, and it isn't clear if up2date will be available for fedora what value this account bring me, and has redhat considered this. up2date supports Fedora up2date supports RHL Professional Workstation -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: alias(rm as mv)
On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 11:44:34PM +0530, Himanshu Arora wrote: i want rm command to be converted into mv (whatever is there after rm command) Trash/ where Trash/ is the final destination. But the alias command doesn't have any support for the above mentioned purpose. Could you suggest me a way to convert rm into mv ? You simply can't do this by aliasing and expect to always work. Rewrite the rm command to do what you want. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Redhat Lives
On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 01:29:30PM -0500, Brett Franck wrote: I don't mean to stir up a frenzy here, but I've been following the list for the last few days on this Fedora Vs RedHat, and am confused...(to say the least) I've been a HAPPY RedHat user since 7.x, and am trying to glean from these posts whether or not I'm going to be able to continue using RedHat for my HTTP, SMTP/POP, SAMBA and FTP Needs?????? I would despise going back to Mandrake. (Started there, didn't like it) Maybe I've been spoiled by a great FREE product, and want to know if it's going to stay that way Since I'm not an enterprise customer, will there still be a RedHat server product out there for me to continue to use? There is Red Hat Linux Professional Workstation. http://www.redhat.com/software/workstation/ This appears to be based on RHEL WS but won't have the RHEL WS pricing - it will be significantly less and be updated through RHN, not RHEN. Ive heard what the pricing might be, and I like it, but I can not release that info. Let me assure that that it's affordable for most of us (a few will still not like it since it's not free). The product already includes a year of up2date services. When the product hits my local retailer, I will be buying a copy for my personal use. It has an http server, both sendmail and postfix, imapd, samba, but no FTP server. You can, however, install your own FTP server - ssh server is already included though. This product is the answer. We're just waiting for it to hit the resellers so that we can see final pricing. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Red Hat Professional Workstation - it lives!
On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 02:01:30PM -0500, Ed Wilts wrote: There is Red Hat Linux Professional Workstation. http://www.redhat.com/software/workstation/ This appears to be based on RHEL WS but won't have the RHEL WS pricing - it will be significantly less and be updated through RHN, not RHEN. Ive heard what the pricing might be, and I like it, but I can not release that info. BUY.COM now has the product online with a release date of 10/26/2003. Their price is $100.99. Don't forget that it includes a full year of RHN which by itself is $60. http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=20359120loc=105queryType=soft -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Red Hat Professional Workstation - it lives!
On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 03:47:42PM -0400, David Hart wrote: http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=20359120loc=105queryType=soft I don't mind paying for software but I'm a tad confused. Other than Up2Date, does this offer anything other than the convenience of not having to download and burn? It's cheap enough. In fact, as I recall, this is less expensive than the RH9 box. I expect that there might a license key in the box to authenticate you against RHN. In other words, you probably can't install the same copy on 10 workstations and keep them up to date. I'm guessing on that one though based on the fact that RHEL had a license key in the box. The bigger difference is that this is based on RHEL and therefore will have the longer life cycle that many of us have asked for. You won't see a new RHPW release every 6 months. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Red Hat Professional Workstation - it lives!
On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 04:01:34PM -0400, Edward Croft wrote: Still no word on what is included. I assume it is based on RHEL 3. Are there any changes? Does it have Mozilla 1.4? Evolution 1.4.5? The website is kind of sparse. The taroon WS beta, on which I'm assuming this new product is based on, has Mozilla 1.4-3 and evolution 1.4.4-5. The price is okay. Will there be an upgrade to the 2.6 kernel when released? I'd guess no. This product is designed to give people the long-term stability that an enterprise product doesn't offer. If you want the latest and greatest, such as 2.6, you must be willing to sacrifice stability. Fedora might be more appropriate for you. Red Hat, however, has backported a lot of 2.6 features into their 2.4 enterprise kernel. There's a good chance that what you need is already there. I'm going to guess that the only way that Red Hat can offer long-term support for this product is to keep it more or less in synch with the Enterprise releases. If they have to throw in the latest and greatest features, they'll be back to where they started - out of date products on retailers shelves that don't make any money and consumers complaining they don't get the support they need. Not much to go on for purchasing decisions. You've essentially got 3 choices that I see: 1. Fedora, for the latest and greatest. New features and community support. Free, with free updates. 2. Red Hat Professional Workstation. Long-term stability, formal bug/security fix support, affordable for the SOHO market ($100 plus RHN after the first year). 3. Enterprise Linux. More server features, more support, more money. My home server will be running RHPW. My office systems will be running RHEL. I'll let you guys debug with Fedora. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Red Hat Professional Workstation - it lives!
On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 06:37:24PM -0400, Buck wrote: And I thought I was cheap! That's only $50 per computer. $100 for ONE computer - up 2 to CPUs in that computer are supported. And Thomas said: $100.- ?!?!? Definitely not targeted at the home user, meethinks, especially not those who don't need the support. That'll be Fedora or probably Mandrake, then... There a lot of home users that pay $60 per year already for RHN support - I'm one of those. Add a one-time cost of $40 for the product (which includes a year of RHN support) and the price is very reasonable, even for a home user. That said, there will be a lot of people for whom Fedora will be the preferred solution. Nothing wrong with that either. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Periodic deletion of old subdirectories
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 09:35:45AM +1000, Michael Mansour wrote: I have a need to delete subdirectories in a particular directory tree if the directories in the tree are older than a certain time (say one month). I'd like to cron this script to work in the background and clean that diretory tree up. What the best way/technique to do this? I run a script called expiredir that I grabbed off the net somewhere eons ago. You can pass it various arguments, include number days or directory sizes, from which it determines what to trim. I see a version of expiredir at http://www.bogus.net/~torh/ but I don't know if that is the one I'm actually using, and I'm too lazy to check... -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Product Pricing
On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 07:55:19PM -0400, William J. Salvino wrote: Will there be a new-release boxed Red Hat operating system priced at $39.99 or less with or without support or printed materials? As far as I know, no. Please see my earlier post where I listed the 3 options (Fedora, RHPW, RHEL). That doesn't mean that there never will be a boxed set at under $40, but I haven't heard of one yet. Not even rumored. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: red hat 10 release date
On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 05:32:38PM -0700, Jim Hayward wrote: On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 15:14, Jeff Wimmer wrote: So RedHat is dropping the end user version and concentrating on commercial enterprise based products? Is that what I'm understanding here? Correct. They are dropping the end user/consumer version for the Fedora Project. The only RH products will be the RHEL line. True yesterday, but not today. Please refer to http://www.redhat.com/software/workstation/. Not much information there yet, but it's coming. I agree that RH needs a product priced for the SOHO and small business markets. This is something IMO they currently do not have in their RHEL line of products. Hence the product listed above. Only time will tell if this turns into a disaster. I'm going to miss the boxed sets. I have bought a boxed set for every RH release since 5.2. Hopefully RH will bring them back in the future in some way. See above. It's back! -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: red hat 10 release date
On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 10:33:14PM -0400, Gerry Doris wrote: I'm sure you'll correct me if I'm wrong but the workstation version is NOT equal to the old Redhat Linux. It sounds like the WS version is missing all of the server functionality that was in RHL. It also costs $179USD which seems high compared to the boxed version of other distros like SuSE. You're wrong :-) From what I know, this is based on the RHEL WS, but it is not RHEL WS. It most definitely does *NOT* have a $179/year price tag. It's not missing all of the server applications, even if it's identical to RHEL WS. Here's the list of server apps that I took from the taroon beta: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ewilts]$ grep server up2date.showall.ws mysql-server-3.23.58-1.i386 openssh-server-3.6.1p2-18.i386 rh-postgresql-server-7.3.4-4.i386 rsh-server-0.17-17.i386 rusers-server-0.17-31.1.i386 telnet-server-0.17-26.i386 vnc-server-4.0-0.beta4.1.1.i386 httpd, sendmail, and postfix are also included. For a small office, WS is pretty good - no FTP server or named, but other than that you're pretty close to everything you could want. You've got ssh, sql, and web servers, and you could use zoneedit or something like that for your dns. If you want an ftp or dns server, you can add that easily enough. I'm not saying the WS version is a bad prodcut...it just isn't the same as the old RHL. I'm suspecting that we'll like the new product more than the old RHL product, but of course we'll both have to wait and see what the pricing is like and what the rest of the details are. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Minimal install RH8?
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 03:04:08PM -0600, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote: Did you even look at the RULE page that someone suggested to you? That is exactly what RULE does: allow you to install a Red Hat Linux system into older hardware, or any hardware with less memory (down to 6MB RAM in some cases), and install a much smaller set of packages than Anaconda usually selects. It is still Red Hat Linux, though. I would argue that this is *NOT* Red Hat Linux. It may certainly look like it, but I don't think Red Hat would agree that a system built with some arbitrary 3rd party installer would qualify as Red Hat Linux. Yes, I'm being picky, but let's respect the trademarks when we can. Please see the middle paragraph in http://www.redhat.com/about/corporate/trademark/guidelines/page5.html -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: OS Desktop Business Model?
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 06:28:16PM -0300, Herculano de Lima Einloft Neto wrote: Given that most of Microsoft's profit comes from the desktop, I'm wondering: if Linux, as I see it, is on its way to becoming a complete, competitive desktop system, would this money simply cease to flow? Is there any model at sight for profitable Desktop distros? It looks like RedHat has given up on that.. What makes you think that Red Hat has given up on the desktop? There is the current RHEL WS line although I will agree that for the home user, this doesn't compete with Windows for pricing. I believe that we will soon see Red Hat make a push back into the SOHO market with a new boxed product that will be very competitive against Windows (financially)... It would not surprise me to see a big push into other markets with this product with large bulk discounts. .../Ed p.s. I think that most of Microsoft's profit comes from Office, not Windows. I heard a few years that if Office broke off and was a company by itself, it would have an annual revenue of $4B. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RULE (branch of former 'Minimal install RH8?')
On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 01:40:48AM +0200, R Sánchez wrote: There's a lot being said about RULE, and I regret the fact that most of the things said are pointed out by people who don't know what RULE is. [snip] What it IS: * A project that makes avaidable an installer which picks those apps from your original redhat iso's. Really don't see any copyright issues here... Copyright issues - NO. Trademark issues - YES, if you call the result Red Hat Linux. It's simply not Red Hat Linux. From what I've read, it is a very valuable project to a lot of people, but the result is not Red Hat Linux. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Why I can't do ftp in local?
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 03:04:36PM +0200, Salvador Santander wrote: Hello, list. I have just finished a redhat installation and i can't do ftp in my own linux machine. Any idea for solve this problem or any document of wu-ftpd configuration? Thanks. 1. Did you install wu-ftpd? 2. Did you enable ftp via chkconfig? -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Legal Characters in DNS
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 03:22:10PM -0400, Jason Staudenmayer wrote: I believe they used to be legal but now you should use a '-' dash. I'm not sure that the underscore was ever legal. However, it was not rejected by the bind software so many people used it anyway. Eventually the software was changed to reject these. It's going back about 10+ years... .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Solved: Why I can't do telnet or ftp in local ?
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 06:52:46PM +0200, Salvador Santander wrote: Because the installation of RedHat although I selected no firewall, the xinetd was configured to disable telnet and ftp ( I don´t undertand the reason ). Finally, I enabled telnet and ftp and all is right. Whether or not you selected a firewall, the telnet and ftp servers would still have been disabled. This is for security reasons. If you know enough to really want to use these services, you should be able to know how to turn them on. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: DSL router recommendation
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 05:08:18PM -0400, Joe Polk wrote: I don't know what you mean with telephone and by 100mb I assume you mean with a 100MB switch (ie 4 port switch built in)? Any number will work, D- Link, NetGear, Linksys. Technically, those aren't really DSL routers. Most of them take an Ethernet in and give you 1 or more Ethernet outs. They don't plug into your DSL line. I believe he's looking for a router that connects directly to his phone line. -- Original Message --- From: Noah [EMAIL PROTECTED] can somebody please recommend a good DSL router with telephone and 100MB interface? something adequate will do. - Noah --- End of Original Message --- -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Solved: Why I can't do telnet or ftp in local ?
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 01:02:51PM -0400, Hal Burgiss wrote: Because telnet and ftp are security nightmares, and no rational person would want to run them. To a very large extent, this is crap. Telnet can certainly be replaced by SSH, but there is no good firewall-friendly alternative to wu-ftpd. sftp_server and scp are *not* good alternatives due to their inability to control access to the extent that wu-ftpd does. Or at least, would not want them turned on by default. Agreed. You should know what you're doing before turning on *any* services. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: How I can tranfer files between Windows and Linux by USB
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 12:06:52PM +0700, Le Ngoc Thach wrote: How I can tranfer files between Windows and Linux (RedHat Linux 9.0) by USB (verision 1.0/2.0) cable. How about USB to Ethernet adapters on both ends? IMO, you'd be better off by just plugging both systems into an Ethernet switch and setting up TCP/IP. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Red Hat website error
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 06:32:04PM -0500, Bret Hughes wrote: Do I dare say this out loud? I wonder what would happen if you submitted a modified price order? Don't try it because it is probably illegal but I have a sneaking suspicion that the billing price tracks through from there. There is a human being on the other end, so you won't get a price break. You'll just be wasting their time and yours. Not everybody is a perfect programmer. Who wants to be the killjoy and notify webmaster at redhat.com that this is a potential issue? Maybe you will get a break. It's already been done. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Mutt and an IMAP server
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 04:54:45PM -0700, p p wrote: Hi, anyone ever setup Mutt to work with an IMAP server. Basically Im using RH9 with the version of Mutt that comes with it and want to setup Mutt to use our Exchange server with IMAP and SMTP (they can make me pull my mail from Exchange, but Ill be damned if Im going to use Outlook). Anyone have an example of the .muttrc file that would accomplish this? Thanks. Do some googling. There are a lot of examples out there. I was using it on my home server for quite a while before I switched to running mutt against my local mail folders. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Sendmail or Postfix
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 07:08:17PM -0700, David Barkman wrote: Hi, I'm building a small web server on RH 9 and are looking for some opinions on mail servers. I'm sure Sendmail will have all the features I could ever dream of needing, but it's complexity is a bit frightening. I have the book RH Linux Internet Server and it walks through setting up Postfix. It seems to have enough features to get me started while remaining not too complex. One of the statements I've seen recently is that if you're familiar with sendmail, or have a sendmail expert around, stick with sendmail. If you don't, go with Postfix. I run sendmail at the office, and have started looking at Postfix at home. Postfix certainly has some advantages. One feature I'll need is for the mail server to deliver mail to multiple people on multiple virtual domains, on one server. Both will do it, but I believe the new virtual domain stuff in Postfix is a bit nicer. Has anyone had any experience setting up Postfix to work with virtual domains? Any other advice on this process would be appreciated. When I set it up, it was relatively quick and painless. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Please help with apache upgrade questions
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 07:25:43PM -0400, damovand wrote: Please note that I've never used up2date, or installed anything from rpm, being new to Linux, which is why I prefer to do a direct install. Please go visit rhn.redhat.com *now* and register for up2date. You should also visit www.redhat.com and read the system administration guide for your version of Red Hat Linux (I think you said it was 9) and learn how to configure rhn/up2date on your system. Red Hat Linux, as delivered out of the box, has security holes and need to be very careful if you put an unpatched server on the Internet. Once you've got your system configured for up2date, do the following: # up2date -l to show all all the updates that are available. Then: # up2date -u to apply all the security errata. When you register for rhn, you can request that you be e-mailed when relevant patches are released for your system. I strongly suggest you do that. Red Hat backports security patches from current versions of 3rd party software (like Apache) into the current version they ship, rather than just shipping new versions. This ensures that no new features break your running environment. The disadvantage is that you might think you need a newer version to fix a security hole when Red Hat has already applied that fix. Keep your system current with up2date and you don't need to worry. Many newcomers to Red Hat Linux fight rpm. Let it work for you and don't fight it. It really helps a lot with dependencies and prevents you from shooting yourself in the foot. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: tape drive recommendation
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 06:41:12AM -0800, Noah wrote: can somebody recommend a good tape drive manufacturer? I am looking to be able to backup to a single 50GB tape Go with a DLT or SDLT drive. Solid and reliable. It doesn't really matter who you buy from since they are all made by Quantum. Only the firmware changes. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: tape drive recommendation
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 10:14:16AM -0500, Rigler, Steve wrote: Is DLT8000 at end of life now? Based on the age of the technology and that the capacity (native specs) doesn't necessarily provide the 50GB requirement I'd suggest SDLT of the two. DLT8000 drives will back up 40GB native and up 80GB compressed. If the intended 50GB of data will fit on a DLT8000 tape, it's a much lower cost alternative than SDLT. SDLT certainly holds more, is faster, and is preferred, but might be overkill and unaffordable. LTO is a good choice also. We're running IBM Ultrium I and II here. I've heard good things about LTO too. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: up2date or other GUI package manager on RH9 to install some packages from Rawhide
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 11:42:24AM -0700, Thomas Frayne wrote: Is there a way to use up2date on RH9 to install individual packages from Rawhide? Is there another GUI package manager that can resolve dependencies and install all needed packages? No. I don't expect that Red Hat will ever support a rawhide channel since the operations are just too dangerous. It's quite easy to totally shoot yourself in the foot since a simple package upgrade from rawhide could be very global - imagine if it required a new glibc, or if you pointed a 7.1 system at the rawhide channel. Can I activate as Rawhide channel on RH9? I want to upgrade Evolution, and am using the rpm command, and downloading rpm's manually to resolve dependencies. I would like to use a better way if possible. I don't know of a better way given Rawhide's inherent instability and frequent updates. Rawhide is supposed to be for people who know what they're doing and can live on the bleeding edge and deal with a totally screwed system. It's not yet even beta quality. If you make it too easy for people to use, we'll have to suffer the consequences as people start firing before aiming. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: how can i open a port
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 12:37:47PM -0700, Rene Enriquez wrote: How can I open port 143 (imap)? # chkconfig --list imap It will probably tell you it's off. # chkconfig imap on # service xinetd reload -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Dynamic DNS.
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 09:21:23PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of far from the correct way to do things, right now I'm using Cron! I use the zoneclient script to keep my dynamic DNS info current. I run it hourly but you could run it more often than that. zoneclient can take its input IP address from multiple sources - I happen to grab the one from my Linksys router. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: how can i open a port
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 03:17:06PM -0700, Rene's Caltech Email wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Ed Wilts wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 12:57:02PM -0700, Rene's Caltech Email wrote: does it mean that if the service is running then the port is running as well? i scanned two different linux servers...the port is open in server but not on the other one...i tried the commands u told me about but it seems it just restarted the service. any other suggestions? The imap services is invoked by xinetd, so it doesn't really run. To confirm that xinetd will start imap, do: # netstat -apn | grep 0.0.0.0:143 You should see a line with LISTEN on the end. If it's listening, but you can't get to it from another server, you may have it blocked by your firewall rules. I don't do iptables, so if that's the problem, post back to the list and get somebody too tell you how to open up the port through your firewall. okay i tried: netstat -apn | grep 0.0.0.0:143 on the server with the problem and it didnt listen. does anybody know how to do iptables/mess with the firewall rules? If you don't see the LISTEN line, then you have not yet configured the service properly. It doesn't matter if the firewall is on or off, xinetd needs to be able to listen first. Please confirm that xinetd is really enabling the imap service: # chkconfig --list | grep -i imap -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RHEL pricing [was FEDORA]
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 06:02:13PM +0300, Karasik, Vitaly wrote: Below is my question to RH and theirs answer: Their answer is misleading - here's the response I received when I forwarded your posting to Red Hat for clarification: That link pointed to the RHN agreement, rather than the RHEL agreement, which is why the user got mixed messages. The $96 RHN fee gets you access to the management functionality, but not access to the RHEL errata. For that you have to be subscribed to RHEL and the pricing on the web is per year. .../Ed Good Morning, Once your current contract expires, it will auto-renew, as stated in Section 6 of the RHN use and Subscription Agreement http://www.redhat.com/licenses/rhn.html so you will not need to purchase a new entitlement. Regards, Customer Service Red Hat, Inc. Original Message From: Vitaly Karasik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RHEL RHEN pricing User Login: vkarasik User ID: 615319 Customer Number: 476882 We bought RHEL AS (WS,ES) 2.1 few months ago. Thiss includes 1-year RHEL subscribtion. In order to continue getting updates after 1 year : - is this enough to buy RHEN subscribtion for $90 - or I'll need to buy RHEL support package again? On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 09:58:58AM +0300, Karasik, Vitaly wrote: I'd like to clarify few things regarding RHEL pricing [and not, I don't work for RH :-)]: - you pay $179 for WS , $349 for ES and $1500 for AS just once and not per-year Can you give us a pointer to this? Everything I've read says that this is per year, not just once. I'll recheck this with RH support/sales - RHEN subscription is just $96 per system per year, there are few discounts for multi-servers sites RHEN does not imply access to RHEL patches. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Is ftp running?
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 08:44:44AM -0400, dlangschied wrote: facility to check to see if the daemon is running in the Gnome interface. He does not see anything remotely like an ftp daemon in the services list. I would assume that this is part of the Red Hat install. Why is there no ftp daemon in the services list? If it isn't loaded by default, I am assuming that it is available as an rpm on the CDs somewhere. Would loading the rpm also add it to the services list (Iwould assume yes here, but just checking)? First things first: # rpm -qa | grep ftp This will tell you if you have a ftp server even installed. Depending on what kind of install you did, you may or may not have installed one. If you installed an ftp server, it is almost certainly disabled. Most services are turned off by default for security reasons. If you do have one installed, check to see if it is running: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ewilts]$ netstat -an | grep 0.0.0.0:21 tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:21 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN Most ftp servers usually run out of inetd/xinetd, and netstat will tell if anything is listening on the port. If it is running, then you've probably got a firewall issue since firewalls (such as iptables) typically block ftp by default. If it's not running, but you have the server installed, configure it before you go any farther. wu-ftpd and vsftp both should be configured to give you the type of access you need. Now check to see if the server is scheduled to start at boot: # chkconfig --list | grep ftp If you see 3:off, then it's not set to start. Enable it with: # chkconfig servicename on Now reload xinetd to get it to reread its config files so that you can connect via ftp # service xinetd reload Incidentally, you mentioned the customer's 7.3 (2.1 AS) server. Those are very different OS releases! -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Is ftp running?
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 09:42:47AM -0400, dlangschied wrote: Let's say, for the sake of arguments, that there are no ftp binaries in the xinetd.d directory. Is the solution to pull the rpm for the ftpd off of the RH 7.3 CD set and load the daemon? Please trim your responses to only the necessary pieces. To pull the latest ftp server, you should grab it from up2date rather than from the CD set. If it's wu-ftpd, then the shipped wu-ftpd might have a security hole that was subsequently fixed. So, # up2date -i wu-ftpd -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RHEL pricing [was FEDORA]
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 03:44:38PM +0300, Karasik, Vitaly wrote: Red Hat's web site clearly states that ftp, anonftp, and wu-ftpd are not included on WS (http://www.redhat.com/software/rhel/features). you're right - there is no ftp server in WS (and of course, ftp [=ftp client] is in) Note, however, that the ssh server is in WS so you could use scp or sftp_server instead of ftp. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: stupid fedora question
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 09:28:02AM -0400, Marvin Blackburn wrote: I am not sure exactly how fedora effects the retail version of Red Hat,if at all. The original Red Hat Linux boxed set as we knew it has been dropped. There will not be a boxed Fedora. However, nobody has said that Red Hat won't be releasing a different boxed product to the retail channels. I cant seem to get a grasp. Is RedHat dropping the retail version and going to start employing fedora -- without giving any support? Support is primarily offered by RHEL. I don't think we'll ever see support for Fedora - it's just not practical for a product that changes that frequently. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: kill httpd hostname request by httpd.conf
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 10:43:53AM -0400, Joe Szilagyi wrote: If I wanted to block an httpd request for a hostname via my httpd.conf file, how could I block it by domain name? I.E., if someone pointed a hostname of 'something.joe.com' at my IP address using DNS servers beyond my control, for some reason, and I wanted to basically kill every request they send at me, what's the entry and syntax I should put in httpd.conf? Read up on Apache access controls - the documentation *is* on apache.org. In short, add something like this: Directory / Options FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None Order Deny,Allow Deny from .redhat.com /Directory -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Samba Access Question
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 11:34:45AM -0700, Simran Hansrai wrote: I have a redhat 8.0 box that has samba running on it and a solaris 9 box that is running dns services. Now, when I access my samba account from my windows box it works just fine when I do //192.168.0.x from start-run, however when I try //hostname it does not seem to work. //hostname is not really a DNS name. Windows will first try a WINS lookup, and then try a DNS lookup after appending your default search domain. It's quite likely that either your host is not registered in the DNS or that you have not set your default search domain properly. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Samba 3
On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 09:50:05AM -0400, Patrick Cable II wrote: Anywho, I'm wondering if the samba config tools will be any different with the arrival of Samba 3.0.0, and if so is there any projected date for release? I am working on a project with my school district and i need to make this stuff easy to maintain for the the tech director (go figure, eh?) A release candidate for samba 3.0 is already in rawhide so I would expect it to be in the fedora release. A release candidate is also in the taroon beta so I would expect it to be in rhel 3 too. When talking about projected release dates, you need to specify which Red Hat product you're talking about. I would not expect Red Hat to backport samba 3.0 to any of the production releases currently out there (RHL 9, AS2.1). -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: OT: Apache ReDirect
On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 02:47:32PM -0700, Mike McMullen wrote: I want to be able to redirect requests for certain pages to port 443 ie https vs http. I remember seeing this done with just a few lines of code but can't find the reference. Any help appreciated. It's just one line of code in your httpd.conf file. I've got the following inside my virtualhost definition for ewilts.org: Redirect /foo https://foo.ewilts.org/ -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: How can I update from Shrike to Fedora ?
On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 08:31:41PM -0500, Mike Vanecek wrote: I am trying to plan for what action will need to be done due to the demise of RHL. Some have suggested that Fedora will be a logical replacement. Others have said that yum/apt might be used in place of up2date. Still others have suggested that redhat network will be migrated to Fedora. up2date supports Fedora today. RHN will not be migrated to Fedora - that statement doesn't make sense. RHN will support multiple releases. It supports releases at least as far back as 6.2 today, even though no new security updates have been issued since the end of March (and there are issues with the latest certificates on 6.2). Still, today, RHN suports at least 7.1, 7.2, 7.3, 8.0, 9, Fedora, AS2.1, and Taroon. Multiply that by the large number of architectures also supported for AS2.1 and Taroon, and you've got quite a few combinations. I need a stable 12-18 month release supported by something like up2date. It use will not be in a production environment, but it is not intended to be bleeding edge either. Some have suggested that we wait to see what develops. The exchange, however, seemed to imply that waiting might not be a good strategy. Waiting is a good strategy. There will be a release that should address your needs. Be patient. I do not know when the announcement will be forthcoming, and I'm hoping that some details will be released soon (like within a week). -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Fedora madness
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 09:30:11AM -0400, Mark Haney wrote: I know most of what we've been discussing here as been tons of speculation, but I have a couple more questions that I'd like opinions (or facts if you got 'em) on. First, if I install Severn on my box, will I be able update to the full version when it's released via up2date? Or will I have to burn Final ISO's and do yet another upgrade? Red Hat has never supported upgrades from a production release to a beta nor from a beta to production. I believe that many people have made it work, but it's officially unsupported. Also, what will happen to this list? Will it strictly be for their Enterprise offerings? Is anyone else subscribing to the fedora list yet? I don't expect redhat-list to go away since we've still got people on here running versions back to 6.2 (and probably older but those users are more quiet). There is a taroon beta list for the RHEL 3 beta. What will happen after RHEL 3 goes production I don't know. The general trend seems to be that redhat-list is for discussions that are not distribution specific. For example, a bug in shrike wouldn't make sense here but more likely should be posted to the shrike list. This will either go away on its own due to lack of activity, or if discussion continues, then Red Hat will probably keep it around. It's up to all of us to decide that. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
openssh on ES2.1 (was: using)
On Thu, Sep 25, 2003 at 10:08:32AM -0700, Sarah Haff wrote: Can the openssh-3.5p1-1 (listed in Red Hat Linux 9 i386 channel) on rhn.redhat.com be used for RH ES 2.1 server? What's wrong with the version that Red Hat offers for ES 2.1? -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Fedora
What options are left to the SOHO server user if not Fedora or SUSE? The product that hasn't been announced yet. I'm not at liberty to give out any details, but from what I've heard, it will be what many people are looking for and more than what I was personally hoping for. I'm waiting patiently for the details to become public... -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RHEL pricing [was FEDORA]
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 09:58:58AM +0300, Karasik, Vitaly wrote: I'd like to clarify few things regarding RHEL pricing [and not, I don't work for RH :-)]: - you pay $179 for WS , $349 for ES and $1500 for AS just once and not per-year Can you give us a pointer to this? Everything I've read says that this is per year, not just once. - RHEN subscription is just $96 per system per year, there are few discounts for multi-servers sites RHEN does not imply access to RHEL patches. - RHEL WS includes almost everything you need on your server [sendmail, apache, ftp server], so, IMHO, you don't need buy ES if you don't need DNS,DHCP services, 2CPU server and so on Red Hat's web site clearly states that ftp, anonftp, and wu-ftpd are not included on WS (http://www.redhat.com/software/rhel/features). -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: SCO's response to HP
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 08:43:32AM -0700, Saqib Ali wrote: http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/030924/law056_1.html HP's Actions Support SCO's Position That Linux is not Free What a crock! If HP really thought that their customers were going to have pay massive licensing fees, do you seriously think they'd indemnify them and face the financial burden themselves? It's obvious even to the financially inept like me that HP strongly believes they won't have to pay a dime. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: WTF? (was yum/apt-get (was Re: Fedora))
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 01:59:39PM -0400, Mark Haney wrote: I know it's a lot, but if someone could kernelize it for me, I'd be really happy. Read the FAQ at http://rhl.redhat.com. Everything beyond what's at the link above is pure speculation. There is even confusion as to whether or not up2date will be used or not to the point that a Red Hat Sales person apparently said that it would not be, yet other people are saying that it will. In fact, up2date works *today* for Fedora. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: EMail virus?
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 10:09:51AM +0200, Sasa Stupar wrote: Ed Wilts pravi: Following up my post, it appears like the sendmail rpm update got me. The easy fix: # service MailScanner status You'll see that it's not running properly # service MailScanner stop # service MailScanner start You'll see that it's now right. Oops here is again one which sliped through. Here are the headers: X-UIDL: 1064303724561.277086334.mig29 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-AV-Scanned: yes 52fcf6c3371ff9f0576c9c1ee9029c95 Received: from fozzy.ieo.it (193.204.96.12:2914) by cmb16-74.dial-up.arnes.si (194.249.51.74:25) with [XMail 1.17 (Linux/Ix86) ESMTP Server] id S65C9 for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 09:55:24 +0200 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by ieo.it (PMDF V5.2-31 #27378) id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 09:48:02 CET Received: from oelr ([192.168.97.204]) by ieo.it (PMDF V5.2-31 #27378) with SMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 09:48:01 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 09:48:01 +0100 (CET) Date-warning: Date header was inserted by ieo.it From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Current Internet Critical Patch To: Customer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY=Boundary_(ID_873sM04n8RTLsplm4fEG4g) There are no MailScanner header lines. That means that MailScanner did not process this message. # tail /var/log/maillog Make sure that MailScanner is actually processing your mail. .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Fedora
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 09:09:06AM -0500, Mike Vanecek wrote: What options are left to the SOHO server user if not Fedora or SUSE? I've never used anything except RH, but would like to start thinking about a fall back plan in case Fedora is too bleeding edge for my needs. I've heard rumors that some announcements might be forthcoming this week. Let's be patient for a bit... -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RHCE life cycle
There have been a few questions surrounding the RHCE life cycle and how it relates to Fedora and RHEL. Here's the response I received from Red Hat: The RHCE life cycle will be bound to RHEL (making cert currency 5-7 yrs). All training will be rolled over to RHEL 3 base this fall. I am not an RHCE so I do not have a formal announcement on this, but this did come from a well-trusted Red Hat person. Cheers, .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Fedora
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 10:33:25AM -0400, Sean Estabrooks wrote: On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 09:24:27 -0500 Ed Wilts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've heard rumors that some announcements might be forthcoming this week. Let's be patient for a bit... Hey Ed, Care to share your source or to speculate what the announcement might entail? Redhat has already said that Fedora will _not_ be supported so all that i can imagine is some kind of price break on their enterprise offerings or as yet unmentioned mid-level product. Any Idea? Sorry, you'll have to wait since I do not have the details. What I'm guessing is that there will be a boxed set again to target the SOHO environment. What is in that box I don't know. I'd guess either WS or ES but I'm waiting with the rest of you. I have a web/email/dns server at home that I'm looking for an answer for, and $349/year is out of my price range. I know that Red Hat is well aware of the problem and am hoping that they will be addressing it with these announcements. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Again, I'm speculating - I don't have much inside knowledge. We can all continue to waste bandwidth guessing what Red Hat might do or we can wait until the announcements come. If they don't come, then I'll be beating up Red Hat with the rest of you... -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Fedora
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 10:08:24AM -0600, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote: At 09:15 9/23/2003, you wrote: Ed mentioned that perhaps such an offering is on the horizon. I'm struggling to imagine how they will differentiate it from Fedora and Enterprise. How's this for a thought? Make SS available for $99/year. Include everything a small business server needs (which I think makes it equivalent to ES), offer automatic updates via RHN, installed package tracking, plus a few (three, five?) incidents of WEB-ONLY support per year. No phone support at all. I've suggested to them that from a personal point of view, $199 plus RHN @ $60/yr might be viable. That makes the 3-year cost about $380 and you're coming in at about $300. I'd be somewhat satisfied with either option. Of course, people are used to paying $0 plus $60/year for RHN, so either option is more money for them and will cause some customers to leave Red Hat. I'm not a marketing guy either and whether this results in a net gain or loss for Red Hat is well beyond my skill set. There's a strong likelihood that neither option will actually be announced (if I was that lucky, I'd be richer than I am!), but speculating can be fun at times. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Fedora
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 01:26:01PM -0400, Buck wrote: There is no doubt that RH is in it for the money. Let's be clear here: Red Hat is not a non-profit charity. They're a publicly traded company and to operate at a loss would not be fair to their shareholders. Red Hat has business people whose job it is to determine how they can survive. They can only survive by making a profit. If they fail to make a profit, those same business people will be unemployed and replaced by people who can help them make a profit. In the business world, more profit is a good thing. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Findig RPM's?
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 08:54:03PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quick one: How can I find the x11 headers? -- I need to install x11-devel and have cd's but know that there must be an easy way of finding what I want with up2date or rpm? # up2date --showall up2date.showall I run this on a regular basis just to grab the latest list of what's available. You can then grep at will. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Dumb-ass Question Re: Fedora
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 03:15:37PM -0400, David Hart wrote: I cannot quite catch up on this thread for lack of time. WTF is Fedora? http://rhl.redhat.com -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Low Partition Space
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 03:57:38PM -0400, Richard Wigfall wrote: My RH 6.2 system is running low on space in the / partition, and my other RH7.3 system (upgraded from RH6.2) is running low on space in the /boot and /usr partitions. Is there any way to increase the size of these partitions, as I have plenty of disk space available on other partitons? The right way is to install a logical volume manager but it's unlikely you've done that on 6.2 or 7.3. The poor man's way is to first start by cleaning up. With your /boot, delete older unused kernel. In particular, look for large unused packages. Typical candidates that I rip out are emacs and tetex although you may be able to kill things like -devel packages. For the 6.2 system, you should look at the rest of the mountpoints. Is /var part of /? If so, move /var/logs to another partition and symlink the logs directory or mount it under a /var/logs mount point. /usr is usually tougher. Cleaning up old stuff usually works. You may consider something like /usr/local and see if you can move that to another partition and either symlink it or mount it under that mount point. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: chat server
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 02:27:11PM +0100, Rus Foster wrote: On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Nabin Limbu wrote: Does any one have the idea of open source chat server running in linux server with windows client. Look at jabber (www.jabber.com) I installed the jabber server at the office. We also use group conferencing. For Windows clients, we run Exodus since it's free. No serious complaints around here. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: EMail virus?
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 09:25:53AM -0700, Simran Hansrai wrote: I have been adding rules to sendmail all day yesterday and today blocking the spam... I'm still trying to find the time to figured out why neither f-prot nor MailScanner is catching these. They've caught other stuff but not this one. The attachement has a .exe extension which I block by default, and not even the attachment is getting stripped. Is anybody/everybody else seeing this make it through MailScanner/f-prot? -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: EMail virus?
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 02:07:12PM -0500, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote: I'm still trying to find the time to figured out why neither f-prot nor MailScanner is catching these. They've caught other stuff but not this one. The attachement has a .exe extension which I block by default, and not even the attachment is getting stripped. Is anybody/everybody else seeing this make it through MailScanner/f-prot? Are you guys updating your f-prot virus signatures? My f-prot is catching all of this stuff. My dates are: Mine is getting automatically updated. I was running f-prot 4.1.1 (with the latest signatures) but just updated to 4.2.1 and they're still getting through. I think I may have just figured it out. After the sendmail patch came out, sendmail was automatically being restarted when it should not have been - it should have been kicked off from MailScanner. I'll see if this clears things up any. At the rate they've been coming in, I should know in an hour or less. Thanks, .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Fedora
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 02:13:12PM -0500, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote: Does this mean that I won't be downloading RH 10, but instead will be downloading Fedora 10 or something? Fedora Core 1 (Cambridge), apparently, which will contain everything you expected to see in Red Hat Linux 10 and more due to the contributions of the Fedora Project. Okay, now for the big question: RHCE? From what I heard at Linuxworld in SFO, RHCE will be tied more to RHEL than to RHL and the exams were going to be based on RHEL starting this fall (which is now here). I'm not an RHCE, but you do have official sources that you can contact to get definitive answers. As I understand it, the current RHCE exam is based on RH 8.0. If RedHat is now dropping the free version of RedHat in favor of the Fedora Project, is the RHCE going to be splintered? Or are they going to change the test to be based on the Enterprise Linux? The latter. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Fedora
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 03:53:45PM -0400, Johnathan Bailes wrote: I am not sure I like this. Does this mean there will be no RH10? That's my understanding. So if I am reading the replies correctly there will be no more RH products on the shelves at the local Compuseless? There probably won't be RHL10/Fedora on the shelves. That doesn't mean that Red Hat won't put RHEL on the shelves. There was a big issue with the retailers in that the product turned over too quickly. Many retailers were getting stuck with obsolete versions. A lot of people still as we speak do NOT have broadband. Why does this matter? Some people myself included liked being able to support my fav distro company by buying a boxed copy. This was honestly my only real updgrade path for a full new version since I do not have broadband at home and have no idea when and if it would ever be offered in my area. I'm guessing that you'll be able to order a CD copy from CheapBytes or similar outfits. I don't know this does not sound that great to me so far. That's partly because you're forced to make a lot of assumptions because we don't have all the details yet. Be patient... .../Ed (who doesn't know a heck of a lot more than you do!) -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Fedora
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 03:14:35PM -0400, Buck wrote: Being a newbie to all this, I am a little confused. Here's what I am reading, someone tell me if I am right or wrong. 1.a) I just downloaded the free ISOs of Red Hat, booted my computer and installed RH 9.0 directly from them. b) This will no longer be available. Wrong. You'll still be able to download the free ISOs of Fedora. c) Red Hat will make source code available for their Enterprise software at no cost. They always have. This isn't changing now. d) In order to get and use it for free, I have to compile all the sourcecode and produce my own executables etc. Right. You still won't get updates - RHEL is subscription based, unlike most traditional products. 2.a) The Fedora Project is sponsored by Red Hat to help produce products similar to the 9.0 I just downloaded. Right. b) Instead of downloading Red Hat ISOs, I will now be downloading Fedora ISOs to continue upgrading and working with my free version of Red Hat Linux. Right. 3.Will the Fedora Project Releases be compatible to existing Red Hat? In other words, can I upgrade what I have to Fedora or will I have to start with Fedora from scratch? Severn is the current beta for Fedora. You can upgrade from RHL 9 to Severn, although updates to/from betas are not (never have been) supported. Whether or not you can upgrade from a future product to an even more future product is pure speculation at this point. I doubt that even Red Hat knows (although they may have goals). 4.Will the Red Hat Enterprise software be allowed to be compiled and distributed freely without support? I can see a new market on ebay for Red Hat ÕÑrprise compiled CDs and ISOs. Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: EMail virus?
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 02:55:52PM -0500, Ed Wilts wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 02:07:12PM -0500, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote: I'm still trying to find the time to figured out why neither f-prot nor MailScanner is catching these. They've caught other stuff but not this one. The attachement has a .exe extension which I block by default, and not even the attachment is getting stripped. Is anybody/everybody else seeing this make it through MailScanner/f-prot? I think I may have just figured it out. After the sendmail patch came out, sendmail was automatically being restarted when it should not have been - it should have been kicked off from MailScanner. I'll see if this clears things up any. At the rate they've been coming in, I should know in an hour or less. Following up my post, it appears like the sendmail rpm update got me. The easy fix: # service MailScanner status You'll see that it's not running properly # service MailScanner stop # service MailScanner start You'll see that it's now right. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Fedora
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 05:20:42PM -0400, Buck wrote: I just talked to sales on the telephone. From what he said, all the features of the Red Hat Enterprise product is available on the internet, just not assembled the same. Version 2 is based on RH 7.1 (or 2) and version 3 will be based on RH 9.0. I've heard it's based on 8.0. There is no 9.0. In purchasing the enterprise products, a buyer has to sign a contract requiring them to have only one machine per support contract or the contract is voided. We purchased ES over the web. We didn't sign anything. The license agreements are on the web - they're public, so consult your own lawyer to see what you are and aren't allowed to do. Either compiling all the options or consolidating all the necessary files for an Advanced server can get you a legitimate copy for free, but the ease of installation, support, and updates will be more difficult, if not impossible to keep up with. Please note that Red Hat is only obligated under the GPL to distribute the sources to those it distributes the binaries to, and that they don't have to make those available via public FTP/Web servers. If too many people take away from Red Hat's revenue stream, I would expect them to tighten down the hatches. As for the Up2Date, it seems to me that if that feature goes away, then someone will recreate or modify it to be more flexible. i.e. Create a version that retrieves RPMs from volunteer sites or from a server. In other words, I download the rpms and save them on a server. The Up2Date upgrade on all my other computers sees the updates and does its thing or I can assign a url or ip address to gather the updates from someone elses site. (Just a guess, I guess.) There are already up2date clones out there. Some people won't trust them as much as they trust Red Hat though, especially in an enterprise environment where you may need your security hole closed *now*. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Fedora
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 07:27:33PM -0500, Mike Vanecek wrote: On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 13:03:56 -0600, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote Does that mean that the current contents of rawhide which one would expect to end up as RH 10 will not? No, it doesn't mean that. rawhide is still expected to be (from what I've heard), the bleeding edge releases. In effect, you'll go from rawhide - beta (like severn) - Fedora, and from Fedora - RHEL beta (like taroon) - RHEL. What happens to RedHat Network subscriptions? Does that mean that at the end of the year no more support for RH 9 and no RH 10 to replace it with. Fedora is completely separate from RedHat. ??? Fedora is not completely separate - in fact, I read that Fedora is a registered trademark of Red Hat now. There is no technical reason why up2date could not be used to keep Fedora current, just like up2date is used to keep the current RHEL beta release (taroon) current. We'll have to wait and see if that's what happens, but it wouldn't surprise me to see Red Hat utilize up2date for Fedora releases. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Fedora
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 07:40:00PM -0500, Mike Vanecek wrote: So, once RHN is gone for RH 9, how does one move from RH 9 to Fedora? If RH 10 had been released, one could simply do an upgrade and change the RHN subscription. You'll have to wait and see, but it would not surprise me to see a traditional upgrade being offered. After all, severn is the beta for Fedora. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Fedora
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 09:48:49PM -0400, Buck wrote: If there is no 9.0 what am I running? Shrike is 9.0! Shrike is Red Hat Linux 9. It's not 9.0. I have both 8.0 and 9.0 cds. Nope - you've probably got 8.0 and 9. Do you need the url? Nope - I'd just prefer it that people refer to the product by its proper version number/name. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Fedora
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 10:19:41PM -0400, Buck wrote: I guess that because there is no .0 there will be no official upgrade. How you came to that conclusion is beyond me... You *can* upgrade from 9 to severn (the beta that most people guessed was going to be called 10). -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: rhn-update registration
On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 07:07:31PM +0530, Nabin Limbu wrote: If I format and reinstall my server then, do I need to need to register again for rhn-update? Can't I use my old registration account? While trying to use old account username and password in newly formated server, it says the username has already been used. How can I use same account again? Go the web interface and delete your system. Then run rhn_register on your newly formatted system and register your system again. .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: rhn-update registration
On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 08:24:02PM +0530, Nabin Limbu wrote: How do I delete my system (account). I didn't find any option for deletion in the web. It's there on the top right of one of the system profile pages. .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Up2date update dependency hell
On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 04:40:46PM -0700, Richard S. Crawford wrote: It's been awhile since I've used up2date on my system. Unless you're behind a very good firewall, you should be up2dating your system regularly. I suggest you subscribe to the redhat-watch-list and also to make sure you get the mailing from rhn that are relevant to your systems. Today I tried, and discovered that the SSL certificate I'd been given earlier had expired. Going to Red Hat's website, I found that I can download a new version of Up2date with the newer SSL certificate installed. I downloaded the RPM and tried to install it. I got this message: # rpm -Uvh up2date-3.0.7.2-1.i386.rpm error: Failed dependencies: up2date = 3.0.7 is needed by (installed) up2date-gnome-3.0.7-1 The usual approach to resolving this is to download both up2date and up2date-gnome and the do: # rpm -Uvh up2date*.rpm Cheers, .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Sending Email To Multiple Recipients
On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 05:59:14PM -0600, SoloCDM wrote: I'm not sure a mailing list manager like Mailman, Majordomo, and many others is the proper avenue. I always think of them as two-way and I am only trying to go one direction. Mailman can be configured to be one-way. We've used it to send mailings to up to 40K users. I want the program to email all the recipients, but only have the sender's and recipient's email addresses in the headers for From: and To:. That's exactly what mailman does. The program also needs to allow files to be attached, if it becomes necessary. Not an issue with mailman. Note: When you reply to this message, please include the mailing list address and my email address in To: and/or Cc: with any proper combination Ask on the list, get a reply on the list. The mailing list address is in the headers. Please learn how to apply the proper filters on your MUA. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Newbie: sendmail fails during startup
On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 09:35:16PM -0300, Geoffrey Lane wrote: This is what I get on my log: # /etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail start Starting sendmail: 451 4.0.0 /etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 91: fileclass: cannot open '/etc/mail/local-host-names': World writable directory 451 4.0.0 /etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 568: fileclass: cannot open '/etc/mail/trusted-users': World writable directory [FAILED] what can I do to fix this? I'd appreciate the help cause I'm not sure what this means.. It means that /etc/mail is world writable. Don't do this. It doesn't come by default this way, and you shouldn't have changed it. # chmod o-w /etc/mail sendmail is ultra paranoid about the protections on the directories it uses. It doesn't trust the configuration if you do things like make your configuration directory world writable. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: OT: Verisign petition
On Sat, 19 Sep 2003, Bret Hughes wrote: I am not sure this will make it through the redhat filter. Verisign recently announced the switch of 2000 servers to redhat. It might make RH think twice about picking on them. I'm confident that Red Hat will release the new Bind. However, when I checked earlier this week, the new feature was in a release candidate and not yet shipping. Red Hat may throw it into rawhide, but I would not expect a back-port to earlier Red Hat Linux releases - that would go against their philosophy of only back-porting security patches, not feature releases. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: encryption
On Fri, Sep 19, 2003 at 05:00:27PM -0700, Allen Wayne Best wrote: i want to encrypt a tar file. can anyone suggestion an encryption program available on redhat??? gpg as part of the gnupg package. It's installed by default I think. If it's not installed on your system now, just install it via up2date. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Wrong RHN profile after kernel compile
On Fri, Sep 19, 2003 at 08:35:36PM -0400, Bill wrote: Grabbed kernel 2.4.20-20 source and compiled a custom kernel. The RHN and Up2date screens still say I'm running a much older version. I don't need the kernel rpm, but how do I inform RHN Up2date that it's been updated? The standard way is up2date -p to update your profile. However, if you still have the old kernel rpm on your system, up2date will still find it. The typical way to do this is to install the source rpm on your system, update the spec file to reflect your custom version, and then replace the sources. Then rebuild the source rpm and install the binary rpm. I've done that with other packages but never a kernel. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Prefered backup method?
On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 11:25:36PM -0600, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote: At 15:21 9/11/2003 +0200, you wrote: Do you folks have prefered backup utils and methods? ie tar or cpio, perhaps something else? Is there a beter way to backup, instead of tape perhaps to another Harddrive? Tape is old, linear, slow, EXPENSIVE, and it breaks. Nasty stuff, no one should use it anymore really. You want size, get a 160GB for $100 ($0.625/GB), and by the way you'll get way more speed than tape would ever give you along with the neat non-linear access, real-time speed, yadda yadda yadda. You want an off-site backup? Put the drive in a removable case. Bzzzt. Thanks for playing :-) Tape has its place. In the home, sure, tape is usually not needed, but in the enterprise, somehow the thought of backing up my systems with multi-terabyte disk farms to disk and keeping multiple images lying around doesn't seem practical without tape. We're up to about 200 220GB tapes in one of our libraries and it's growing, not shrinking. Tape, properly configured, is not slow. Most modern tape drives these days have the ability to outperform disk drives. Writing at 10-15MB/sec is not uncommon. My preferred method: one old P100 machine in a corner of my study, running RH9. The system runs on a 1GB drive but has two 120GB drives in a RAID-1 configuration, on separate EIDE channels of course, and /dev/md0 is mounted as /backups. The system allows no access at all except for SSH and syslog (this is the central remote syslog server for the house). Of course, the usual precautions are in place against remote root logins, etc., and SSH allows access for only the user backups, using certificates and not passwords. I also back up to hard disk at home, using a variety of scripts. I've just started working with rsnapshot (from sourceforge) and that seems to work nicely so far. The only catch is my wife's computer, since I do not have rsync for Windows 2000. I need a way to use Putty (more likely, pscp) to do rsync's job, but I have not figured that out yet. Why not smbmount the Win2K system's hard drive on bakman and then rsync from there? That's what I've been thinking about doing. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Prefered backup method?
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 10:14:52AM -0600, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote: Don't like it. If users can access the backup box, or if (as per your last point) the NAS-es (how the hell do you pluralize NAS, anyway?) NAS is short for Network Attached Storage. So NAS-es would be Network Attached Storages which doesn't sound right :-). How about NAS arrays or NAS appliances or NAS subsystems? -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
