Re: Is someone trying to get me off the list?
Todd A. Jacobs wrote: On Fri, 21 Feb 2003, Ric Tibbetts wrote: I honestly think it should be disabled, until the person has the direct consent of the list owner to run such a bot. You don't need anyone's permission to run a procmail filter. That would be a bad--and silly--precedent to set. No, what's silly bad, is when users can't leave well enough alone, and decide they can control things such as this. Ulitmately, such filters, can, and do, run awry, and you spam out that stuff to the list, as you recently did. THAT is silly bad, and will ultimately get you added to my spam filters, as what you sent out is no better than that. As I stated, and you so neatly trimmed off: There are clear, and simple instructions at the bottom of every e-Mail that comes off this list, as well as sent to each and every user, when they sign up, on how to unsubscribe. An auotresponder such as yours is needless, and redundant, and should be removed. I, for one, do not appreciate receiving such mistakes. Leave list management to the list owners. This is my final comment on this. Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: eepro100: wait_for_cmd_done timeout!
Oops, reverse that! From: alias eth0 eepro100 to alias eth0 e100 Ric Ric Tibbetts wrote: I've had this same problem with integrated Intel NICs. There is actually an e100.0 module by default, but Redhat isn't using it. All you need to do is change /etc/modules.conf to read: from: alias eepro100 eth(n) to alias e100 eth(n) and all should be well. My desktop at work had this same thing. Ric Christopher Lyon wrote: I downloaded the latest from Intel and make install. It is still doing it. Once I get the failure on the console all network traffic stops. I must reboot the box in order for it to work correctly again. It is a Tyan 2425 with Intel Pro100 built in cards. -Original Message- From: Ramesh .T.S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 11:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: eepro100: wait_for_cmd_done timeout! tryto compile e100 driver from intel and check cox eepro has certain bugs which affects during heavy traffic or autonegotiation - Original Message - From: Christopher Lyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 11:36 PM Subject: eepro100: wait_for_cmd_done timeout! I seem to be having a problem with copy files in or out of this machine. I noticed that a console message just came up and it said eepro100: wait_for_cmd_done timeout! I have never seen this before and I noticed that the box from the networking standpoint is completely locked up. Anybody seen this before? -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Simple router
All; I need a simple way to just pass packets. I have 3 devices, and two network drops. (yeah, same old story). My RH 8.0 box has two nics in it, so I thought I could set one up to just play dumb hub, and pass packets to one of the the other boxes. Both boxes have, and need, static IPs. (the extra NIC is currently unassigned, and unused, so I can do anything with it). Is there a simple way to do this? I don't need any firewalling, or IP masq'ing, or any of that. It just needs to play hub, and pass packets. Thank you! Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Simple router
That's what I thought too. I have one working at home (as a full firewall). But it's on a different distro (shouldn't matter, this is kernel stuff). So on this one, I did the usual: echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward Set the the second card with a dummy address, and added it to the route, so: # route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 192.168.100.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth1 132.228.132.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 00 lo 0.0.0.0 132.228.132.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 eth0 Where eth0 is the official address card, and eth1 is the second card. Then I plugged in a box, using a crossover cable. That should work. No go. Does RH 8.0 block this by default now? What did I miss? (I hate it when the simple ones get by me... sheesh! It HAS to be Monday...) Thanks again! Ric Spanke, Alexander wrote: Just activate the IP_Forwarding and update your routing table -Original Message- From: Tibbetts, Ric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 2:56 PM To: Redhat List Subject: Simple router All; I need a simple way to just pass packets. I have 3 devices, and two network drops. (yeah, same old story). My RH 8.0 box has two nics in it, so I thought I could set one up to just play dumb hub, and pass packets to one of the the other boxes. Both boxes have, and need, static IPs. (the extra NIC is currently unassigned, and unused, so I can do anything with it). Is there a simple way to do this? I don't need any firewalling, or IP masq'ing, or any of that. It just needs to play hub, and pass packets. Thank you! Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Simple router
Anyone? This is easy! I KNOW it's easy. I have one running at home, and it works great. I've just missed something really dumb. The setup: A RH 8.0 box with 2 NICs. 1 with a real address connected to the network, the second with a dummy IP (192.168.100.1) that runs a crossover to another box. I turned on ip_forwarding # echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward I enabled the card, and set it to route through the first. # cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1 DEVICE=eth1 BOOTPROTO=none BROADCAST=192.168.100.255 NETWORK=192.168.100.0 ONBOOT=yes TYPE=Ethernet USERCTL=no PEERDNS=yes IPADDR=192.168.100.1 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 GATEWAY=132.228.132.38 A quick look at route: # route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 192.168.100.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth1 132.228.132.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 00 lo 0.0.0.0 132.228.132.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 eth0 Looks normal enough. And iptables is NOT running, so nothing is blocked. Then on the client pc, I set it to route through the primary IP of the sever. NO go. What did I miss? Thank you! Ric Tibbetts, Ric wrote: All; I need a simple way to just pass packets. I have 3 devices, and two network drops. (yeah, same old story). My RH 8.0 box has two nics in it, so I thought I could set one up to just play dumb hub, and pass packets to one of the the other boxes. Both boxes have, and need, static IPs. (the extra NIC is currently unassigned, and unused, so I can do anything with it). Is there a simple way to do this? I don't need any firewalling, or IP masq'ing, or any of that. It just needs to play hub, and pass packets. Thank you! Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Simple router
Warren Johnson wrote: Tibbetts, Ric wrote: Then on the client pc, I set it to route through the primary IP of the sever. shouldn't it route through the inside interface or eth1 on the server? I used the term server really loosely. I have 3 boxes and two network drops in my office. One of my Linux boxes has two nics. So I want to have it do routing for the third device. (a gateway device really). I'm doing this at home, as are many, many people. Which is why I don't get why this one won't work. In this case, eth0 is hooked to the company intranet. eth1 is a dummy address, with a crossover cable going to box 2. Box2 is set to use box 1 as it's gateway. It's really simple stuff I've been doing this with both Redhat Mandrake for years. But now.. with RH 8.0, it doesn't work. I'm lost. Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Monitor Shakes....
Yup, I've had this one too. I moved the monitor to a different corner of the room, and the problem went away. Turned out to be a tone of wires in the wall in that corner, and I was getting em interferrence from them. I've also found that if my speakers are to close to the monitor, it will cause this. Try setting it up in a different part of the house, just as a test. Ric Roland Roberts wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Okay, this has *nothing* to do with RedHat per se except as a pure coincidence that I happen to be running RH 8.0 on the machine. After moving into a new home, my monitor has developed this odd quiver. There are these slow undulations in the screen that are there even if everything else in the room (everything except the computer and the monitor, that is) is turned off. They even continue to appear when I pull the UPS out of the wall so everything is running of batteries instead of wall power. The monitor refresh is at 65Hz. I can use xvidtune to modify the frequence down to 60Hz at which point the undulations disappear. Looks like a beat problem with the line frequency. My wife's iMac has the same problem except I can't change her refresh rate to eliminate the quiver. Anyone have any clues how I can eliminate this apart from the refresh rate? I've had one person suggest putting a choke on the signal cable, and I'm going to try that. Any other ideas are welcome. TIA, roland - -- PGP Key ID: 66 BC 3B CD Roland B. Roberts, PhD RL Enterprises [EMAIL PROTECTED]6818 Madeline Court [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY 11220 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.4, an Emacs/PGP interface iQCVAwUBPkkhvuoW38lmvDvNAQE0vAP6A2WvZtvXQksthKEVmyfdo/JSBjyOx5gA HU/3Z/RHe417EEu9y2/AiBF5Bufo2fEy+810ee7dE0TKUogedMr4kWev/m4JVz9d XFJQZJG0yMqUVkjrOLA9fD9RhPh+/4JRcWckAbjdO8084pndFUT2XiSIFhHziUlw 32C/ZcDUq2Q= =BOx1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: ftp'ing directories
I don't believe that ftp has the facility for doing this. I used to do it with a script.. It's a pain. I'd suggest installing ncftp. It can do directories, and much more! It's on the CD's, it just doesn't install by default. Ric Ted Gervais wrote: I normally do ftp'ing from the command line and today I sturggled to find a way to ftp a directory and all its subdirectories. Is that possible? I even thought that if I entered something like: mget -R directory *would work. That just gets the files that are in the first directory. There must be a way to pick up all the subdirectories that are under the main directory, rather than having to do each of all those directories ONE at a TIME?? Grrr.. Anyone please.. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: got 1,2,3 - but what's on 4 5?
The Source Luke. It's the source(s). ;) Ric Tass wrote: Just a quick one here; The RH8 I got recently was the DL from the site. So that's the ISO discs 1-3. But I don't see anywhere what is on discs 4 and 5. Don't need a detailed list, just an idea of whether or not it's worth the time to DL them. TIA, ht -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Monitor Shakes....
rt == Tibbetts, Ric [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: rt I've had this one too. I moved the monitor to a different rt corner of the room, and the problem went away. Turned out to rt be a tone of wires in the wall in that corner, and I was rt getting em interferrence from them. That's at least possible, but I'm pretty sure the wall it is abutting has no wiring at all. I'm ready to wrap the thing in aluminum foil It's a thought. ;) Ok.. don't do that just yet. rt I've also found that if my speakers are to close to the rt monitor, it will cause this. Even when the speakers are off, it happens. I first noticed it before I had even connected the speakers. Actually, having power to them wouldn't matter, it's the magnets. But, since your wife's is doing it too, then I doubt that's the problem. rt Try setting it up in a different part of the house, just as a rt test. Ugh. I can try that, but it's a 21-inch monitor and the box is huge will 6 drives and 2 CDs. The house is a typical old house with a narrow stairwell. Can you say hernia and fall down? I might try this anyway. I understand. Been there, done that. You mentioned a 2.4ghz phone. Try moving the base station further away. Or.. if the cord is long enough, pick up the base station, and walk around the room with it. See if it effects the monitor quiver. It really sounds like an EM problem. What's on the other side of the wall? Are there ANY electric motors, around? Anything that could be emitting EM interference? Electric fan? I had one of those drive me crazy for a while. There is SOMETHING in the room, or possibly on the other side of the wall that's creating an EM field, and screwing with your monitor(s). That's why the test to put it in another room... I know, it's a pain... Gremlin? Poltergiest? Ric rt Ric rt Roland Roberts wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Okay, this has *nothing* to do with RedHat per se except as a pure coincidence that I happen to be running RH 8.0 on the machine. After moving into a new home, my monitor has developed this odd quiver. There are these slow undulations in the screen that are there even if everything else in the room (everything except the computer and the monitor, that is) is turned off. They even continue to appear when I pull the UPS out of the wall so everything is running of batteries instead of wall power. The monitor refresh is at 65Hz. I can use xvidtune to modify the frequence down to 60Hz at which point the undulations disappear. Looks like a beat problem with the line frequency. My wife's iMac has the same problem except I can't change her refresh rate to eliminate the quiver. Anyone have any clues how I can eliminate this apart from the refresh rate? I've had one person suggest putting a choke on the signal cable, and I'm going to try that. Any other ideas are welcome. TIA, roland - -- PGP Key ID: 66 BC 3B CD Roland B. Roberts, PhD RL Enterprises [EMAIL PROTECTED]6818 Madeline Court [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY 11220 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.4, an Emacs/PGP interface iQCVAwUBPkkhvuoW38lmvDvNAQE0vAP6A2WvZtvXQksthKEVmyfdo/JSBjyOx5gA HU/3Z/RHe417EEu9y2/AiBF5Bufo2fEy+810ee7dE0TKUogedMr4kWev/m4JVz9d XFJQZJG0yMqUVkjrOLA9fD9RhPh+/4JRcWckAbjdO8084pndFUT2XiSIFhHziUlw 32C/ZcDUq2Q= =BOx1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- rt -- rt redhat-list mailing list rt unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe rt https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list - -- PGP Key ID: 66 BC 3B CD Roland B. Roberts, PhD RL Enterprises [EMAIL PROTECTED]6818 Madeline Court [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY 11220 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.4, an Emacs/PGP interface iQCVAwUBPklA3uoW38lmvDvNAQFylQP/W1LQT2gm3cg9mCe3j78BswyKVozjyPu1 YopQmH0AQjxsPUTRmdbXlkwF5fst8Wvu9RVJKRR6ePxd9/eRCaRDE1mUP2C5QTft cunYU9kE4m0xrfGAao0I3aB1RnR0S1gK+CyM3gCBxokvIzLtVvkOUzWnUL+RB/li Esg/+4LZR0I= =DheU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Monitor Shakes....
Douglas Myers wrote: Another (remote) possibility is cordless or (especially) certain cell phones, Nextel's being the worse I've seeen. I would get some shake if nextel was within less that 3 ft of monitor, and total freak out if phone was being used... just another possibility I park my cell phone on my desk, right next to my monitor.. It sits, turned on, in a charging craddle, no effect. I kind of suspect that 2.4Ghz cordless he mentioned... Ric snip -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Newer Evolution RPM?
Hi, all: Can I use the Evolution RPM contained in Phoebe (the second beta of Red Hat 8.1) to upgrade my 8.0? The 1.0.8-10 version of Evolution included in 8.0 does have some crashes from time to time, and I'd love to upgrade. However, I depend so heavily on my email that I wanted to ask for comments as to whether rpm -Uvh is viable and advisable for me. Whatever else, I cannot break my email! :-) -- Rodolfo J. Paiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would expect to see dependancy problems with it. I tried to install it via red carpet a while back, and it's odd now. It crashes on LDAP address lookups. I loaded Phoebe at home. Runs great! It's what you would expect from a point release. Updated packages, and bug fixes, but no huge content changes. It includes Evolution 1.2, and it runs well. Based on my experience(s) with Phoebe, I would expect to see 8.1 out soon. It may be worth it to wait, and do the whole upgrade. LMHO-YMMV Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Automount LDAP
I don't know about the rest of the world statement, but Sun does use auto_master ... auto_home, etc, rather than auto.home, etc.. It's a problem. It's rooted in their using iplanet for LDAP, vs, Linux OpenLDAP. Also, if I look in /var/adm/messages, I'm getting the following: Feb 6 16:26:39 aurora automount[2647]: attempting to mount entry /home/tibberi Feb 6 16:26:40 aurora automount[2656]: lookup(ldap): query failed for ((objectclass=nisObject)(cn=tibberi)) Feb 6 16:26:40 aurora automount[2656]: lookup(ldap): query failed for ((objectclass=automount)(cn=tibberi)) That would support the nisObject theory. I suspect that he's on the right track. But his paper was written for OpenLDAP - OpenLDAP automounter. It's a bit different with OpneLDAP - iPlanet automounter. There's just very little documentation on this. I have LDAP working for login authentication, but the automounter is still elluding me. (and I haven't had time to work on it today.. been dealing with a backup issue...). Hopefully I'll have more time to look at this on Monday (Friday is a short work day for me). Ric Rigler, S C (Steve) wrote: I just read that link. I'm not sure about the accuracy of his statement about Sun and the rest of the world use the nisMap and nisObject schema and ou=auto_home instead of auto.home. It's too bad there isn't better documentation for this. -Steve -Original Message- From: Ric Tibbetts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 5:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Automount LDAP Steve; Thanks for the reply, and good luck to you too. In my case, I'm trying to get RedHat 8.0 LDAP + automount (client), to work with a Solaris LDAP server. I had automounter working with the old Solaris NIS server, but someone thought that was too easy, and changed it all over to LDAP.. So, I'm starting over. ;) I'll check out the link you provided. In addition, I found the following, which may shed some light... So far, it hasn't helped mine, .. But I'm still working on it. http://www.openldap.org/lists/openldap-software/200106/msg00355.html Ric Rigler, S C (Steve) wrote: I'm about to start working with the same issue right now. I found some information at: http://www.openldap.org/faq/data/cache/599.html My first step is to get the automounter to work with Irix clients and I'm having some luck there (although the migrate scripts don't seem to be setting up the ldif files correctly). My next step is to test the automounter on RedHat clients. FYI, we're having to change our standardized RedHat load here to use autofs4 instead of the autofs that's included with RH. Issues we were running into were a lack of support for multipath entries. Direct maps are still an issue that we've worked around via some scripting. Basically, getting a Linux client to behave like other Unix machines wrt to autofs is a pain. Let me know how autofs + LDAP works for you on Linux. -Steve -Original Message- From: Tibbetts, Ric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 2:22 PM To: Redhat List Subject: Automount LDAP Does anyone here have any experience with getting automounter LDAP playing together on Redhat ? So far, LDAP is running fine, but I can't get the automounter to pick up. Thanks! Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: up2date - Slashdotted?
Caleb Groom wrote: I see 3 updates available this morning via the Red Hat Network Alert Notification Tool (longest program name ever?). But when I click the Launch up2date... button I get this error message: Error Message: Free service limited due to high load; please try again in 30-60 minutes (server 1002077318) Error Class Code: 51 Error Class Info: Due to extremely high traffic, access to Red Hat Network is currently limited to subscription customers. Please try again later. --- I've never seen this before in the 6 months I've been running RH8. Anybody else getting this right now? In the past? I have no beef with bandwidth reserved for the paying customer, just wandering if this has happened to other folks before. I've been getting that since yesterday. I managed to get one system updated, but not the other. Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: window manager
Or at log in time. Just pick session, and select the one you want. Ric John Nichel wrote: Use the desktop switching tool. Look in your Kmenu under system. John Salamone wrote: Hi, I am currently using kde desktop but I would like to switch to gnome default desktop but I am unsure hoe to do this. Can someone tell me how. Thanks -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Automount LDAP
Does anyone here have any experience with getting automounter LDAP playing together on Redhat ? So far, LDAP is running fine, but I can't get the automounter to pick up. Thanks! Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: LVM Questions?
Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote: On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 14:18, Tibbetts, Ric wrote: But with LVM, you can group multiple disks into a single volume group. Thus making 4 18GB drives act like a single 72Gb drive. What happens if one disk dies? You lose the whole shootin' match. If you need that kind of protection, you need to look at RAID, and either do RAID 5, or mirroring. OR: Don't group multiple disks together. Yes, you can use LVM RAID together. With LVM on RAID 5 you eliminate the problem. Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: starting kde from another machine
No problem Rick! If you need the whole desktop, this is the best way. Just use what's built into X already. :) If you just need a window, and a single application, then, as others have pointed out, telnet, and export your display. It just depends on what you want to do. As to the X crash... I haven't seen that one. Sorry. You might want to take that to the XFree folks. It could be a problem with your specific X driver. Ric rick henderson wrote: the below seems to work, but there seems to be some instability in rh 8.0. When switching from the x session to one of the console (ctrlalt F1), the x session dies, the console then closes and the x login screen is displayed. Has anyone had this problem? I have tried on one older rh 7.2 and did not have the problem on that machine. thanks rick On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 11:06, Tibbetts, Ric wrote: Rick; Sorry I didn't see this earlier. This is a really easy matter, but it's mostly unknown (not too many people use it). From console on the local machine ( ctrlaltF1 ) Log in as root. Issue: X -query remote hostname -once :1 That will fire up an X session from the remote machine, on your local display. You'll get the login banner from the remote machine. Just log in as usual. You can do that up to 6 times. The extra X sessions are numbered: :0 = ctrlaltF7 (default) :1 = ctrlaltF8 :2 = ctrlaltF9 etc. You can do that to ANY flavor of Unix box. I frequently have my Linux Box X Queried into a couple of AIX servers. And I just ctrlaltFx around to them. NOTE: You may need to enable xdm (kdm, gdm... which ever) to accept Queries, on the remote box. I believe it's disabled by default. Have fun! Ric Tibbetts Rick Henderson wrote: I have installed rh 8.0 on my machine in place of w2k. I now use rdp to connect when needed. Now what I want to do is to startkde from another one of our other servers. I run xhost servername telnet to the server, login and run startkde. It looks like the x from the new server takes overs the window managers. How would I start the new one on like ctrlaltf8 Thanks Rick Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (936) 291-5356 -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: alias
Go the easy route. Just create a second user with the same UID GID as Fred, and using Freds home directory. The /etc/passwd would look something like: foo:x:500:500:Foo User:/home/foo:/bin/bash bar:x:500:500:Fred User:/home/foo:/bin/bash Then set the password to be the same as foo Then when bar logs in, he is really foo, and uses foo's environment, and home dirs. NOTE: useradd will probably complain about doing this, as will nearly all user creation tools. You'll need to add the password entries by hand, then run the passwd command to sync the shadow passwords. AND: YES, this can be done for a root account. We used to use what we called a root2 account for customers that needed root. We'd create a shadow account like the one above. Then the passwords can be different, and we could pull access if they acted up. A Caviat: If user bar, decides to change his password, he MUST type it as: # passwd bar If he just enters # passwd He'll change the password for foo. Since they have the same UID, passwd will change the first one it comes accross in /etc/passwd, so he needs to be specific. Easy. cheers! Ric Larry Brown wrote: Is it possible to create an alias for a user for login etc. Example would be a user named fred in the Linux system. I want to create an alias named coo for Fred. So fred could log in as coo with the password Fred would normally use and log in. He would look like the user coo but would have all of the access rights and privileges of Fred. Then as a follow-up, if it is possible, is it possible to do this for root? Larry S. Brown Dimension Networks, Inc. (727) 723-8388 -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linux Newbie - what's the point of newsgroups?
Oh, and in that 20 years I also learnt that patience is not only a virtue in computing, it's absolutely f*%$£g essential! LOL... I've always told my bosses, and customers, What I lack in technical expertise, I make up for with sheer determination. I'm not sure which is more important: Patience, or sheer Persistance. Perhaps it's a combination of the two. Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linux Newbie - what's the point of newsgroups?
Douglas, Stuart wrote: Hmmm...patience vs. persistance. They're similar in nature, but apply to different things. Patience is when you have to explain something for the umpteenth time to a user that will never get it. Persistance is when your forced to deal with sorting out some technical problem. Of something like that anyway... Regardless, forums have been far and away the single most useful thing I've found for gaining knowledge in evolving from Windows to Linux. Many thanks to all those who have or will have kindly shared their knowledge and experience! Stuart Knowledge is something that you gain more of, by sharing it. Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: starting kde from another machine
Rick; Sorry I didn't see this earlier. This is a really easy matter, but it's mostly unknown (not too many people use it). From console on the local machine ( ctrlaltF1 ) Log in as root. Issue: X -query remote hostname -once :1 That will fire up an X session from the remote machine, on your local display. You'll get the login banner from the remote machine. Just log in as usual. You can do that up to 6 times. The extra X sessions are numbered: :0 = ctrlaltF7 (default) :1 = ctrlaltF8 :2 = ctrlaltF9 etc. You can do that to ANY flavor of Unix box. I frequently have my Linux Box X Queried into a couple of AIX servers. And I just ctrlaltFx around to them. NOTE: You may need to enable xdm (kdm, gdm... which ever) to accept Queries, on the remote box. I believe it's disabled by default. Have fun! Ric Tibbetts Rick Henderson wrote: I have installed rh 8.0 on my machine in place of w2k. I now use rdp to connect when needed. Now what I want to do is to startkde from another one of our other servers. I run xhost servername telnet to the server, login and run startkde. It looks like the x from the new server takes overs the window managers. How would I start the new one on like ctrlaltf8 Thanks Rick Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (936) 291-5356 -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Why doesn't this work in cron?
Try: YESTERDAY=`date +%Y%m%d -d yesterday` * * * * * root echo $YESTERDAY Note: The ` is the single tick, NOT a single quote. Ric Jeff Bearer wrote: I'm attempting to set some variables with the output of 'date' in my crontab but for some reason they are not being evaluated. YESTERDAY=$(date +%Y%m%d -d yesterday) * * * * * root echo $YESTERDAY When cron runs that $YESTERDAY is set to date +%Y%m%d -d yesterday Why doesn't this work, and how do I get it to work? -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linux Newbie - what's the point of newsgroups?
Victor; Chill, and back off the caffine a little bit. There's an old saying: Give a man a fish, and you've fed him for a day. Teach him how to fish, and you've fed him for a lifetime. This list tries to not just feed people for a day, but to educate them, so they can answer their own questions tomorrow. Ric Victor wrote: Ok, I see this shit all the time, go search Google go do this go do that What the hell is the point of mailing lists if the people that know how to fix the problems are too lazy to help those in need? Why should one even come to the mailing list in the future when one is told to basically get the fuck out? I also subscribe to Microsoft and macromedia newsgroups, and there are people who repeatedly as the same question because they don't search Google or some other shit resource, yet the moderators and other people are friendly enough to always answer their questions if they ask. This is the way it's supposed to be. If you don't want to answer the question shut the fuck up get out, don't tell other people to get lost. Makes me sick. - end of rant. - Vic -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David Busby Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 5:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linux Newbie Search the archives for relevant terms, then try google. After trying one or two things then tell us what you did, and where you're at now. I'd try: red hat 8 maestro3 /dev/dsp linux sound cards to start /B - Original Message - From: rvelez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 14:00 Subject: Linux Newbie Hey guys I am currently running red hat 8.0 on a dell c600. It seems like the OS install picked up the soundcard maestro3. When I try to test the sound though I get a error saying /dev/dsp : no such file. I am not sure where to start, anyone have any ideas or hints. Thanks for your help it is appreciated! Thanks Rad -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: LVM Questions?
Robert; In the interest of not duplicating a pre-written document. If you check out www.sistina.com, they have an excellent how-to on setting up LVM. ONe caviat: They assume that it is not already in the kernel. In the case of RH 8.0, you can ignore this. It's already there. In short, I've set up my box with LVM. I left /boot out. It CAN be included, but I prefer to take the simpler road. If it's 2:00am, and all hell has broken loose, I want to be able to at least boot the box... But, the short side of it is: You CAN build the LVM when you install the OS. Disk Druid is set up to do that. I personally don't like the logical volume naming conventions it uses, but it works, and you can always change the volume labels later. Your disk (if viewd with fdisk later) will only show 2 partitions. 1 for the /boot, and the other for the rest of the disk. Like so: Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 116128488+ 83 Linux /dev/hda217 4865 38949592+ 8e Linux LVM The id 8e is the LVM. All of your logical volumes, and subsequent filesystems are built on that. Mine looks like: Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/datavg/rootlv 253871139670101094 59% / /dev/hda1 124427 19935 98068 17% /boot /dev/datavg/usrlv 2064208 1902492 56860 98% /usr /dev/datavg/varlv 507748 64531417003 14% /var /dev/datavg/tmplv 126931 4663115715 4% /tmp /dev/datavg/optlv 2064208 56692 1902660 3% /opt /dev/datavg/srclv 1032088218444761216 23% /usr/src /dev/datavg/locallv2064208186368 1772984 10% /usr/local /dev/datavg/homelv 4128448128828 3789908 4% /home none256592 0256592 0% /dev/shm /dev/datavg/Datalv25040764190812 23577940 1% /Data With /dev/datavg being the volume group, Datalv being the logical volume, and /Data being the filesystem. The easiest way to get your head around it: the Volume Group can be equated to the disk. But with LVM, you can group multiple disks into a single volume group. Thus making 4 18GB drives act like a single 72Gb drive. The Logical Volumes, can be equated to the partitions. Except, with LVM, you don't need to reboot when you create, change, delete an lv. The Filesystems are as they always have been. It's really to big a subject to go into any more detail here. I'd suggest you check out sistina first. Then come on back, and we'll chat some more about this. I use LVM on many of my machines, and wouldn't be without it. This kind of disk management is exactly what Linux needs to compete on the enterprise scale. Ric Richardson, Robert wrote: Hello, I have a Dell PowerEdge 4400 with 104GB of disk space that I want to configure as an FTP Server (vsftpd), with RH 8.0. This system comes setup with hardware raid. For future space expansion I want to configure the disks (/dev/sda) in LVM. Questions: 1. Do you have to format the disks during the install phase using Disk Druid or Fdisk, with their established filesystems, first? 2. If so can I then go back to fdisk, after the post install reboot, to modify the filesystems into LVM volume groups? What is the sequence to accomplish that? 3. Are there any filesystems, such as /boot and / that do not get to LVMed? 4. Once installed are there any special procedures, script(s), that have to be invoked every time an LVM configured system is rebooted? Robert Richardson Activision Studios 310.255.2247 -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: cd copying software
gabriel wrote: This makes them not a CD. I wouldn't hold up much hope on Linux to support these. Just about all Unixes use cdrecord as the underlying tool to read and write CDs, and I would surprised if the cdrecord author decided to process CDs that don't follow the published standards. what are you talking about? you don't need cdrecord to READ a cd. are you saying that since these things aren't /real/ cds no one has written anything to work around this problem? if this is the case, you have any idea where can i learn how to write my own? If you want to copy a CD, so you can write to another one: Either use one of the GUI tools like Xcdroast, OR: mount the CD (/mnt/cdrom). Then mkisofs -R -o /sompath/somefilename.iso /mnt/cdrom That will create an iso image of the CD. (I can't speak for any protection schemes.. Protection scheme exist for a reason. This method will not curcumvent those reasons, or schemes. Nor is it intended to.). If it's an Audio CD, you'll want grip. To write it back to a different CD: Toss a blank CD-R in your CD-R writer, and: cdrecord -v dev=0,0 speed=48 /somepath/somefilename.iso (assuming that the device is actually 0,0, and is capable if 48x speeds). There are GUIs that will do the above for you. But I like quick simple command-lines. Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Sendmail anti-spam feature?
Just for reference, Here's the servers I'm using: maps_rbl_domains = bl.spamcops.net blackholes.mail-abuse.org relays.ordb.org blackholes.wirehub.net relays.osirusoft.com blackholes.five-ten-sg.com NOTE: I'm running postfix, so the syntax is different, but the server names are what is important. These, along with some local filtering, have been doing an excellent job. Ric Burke, Thomas G. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Maybe it's been fixed. They had a note on their site that if you had one of the addresses listed, which was an open relay, it would cause your system to reject everything.. I was having that problem, a friend tracked it down pointed it out to me. Maybe it wasn't the osirusoft, but it was one of the 4 that everyone seems to use. - -Original Message- From: Sander Steffann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Sendmail anti-spam feature? RE: Sendmail anti-spam feature?Hi, Be sure to change the osirusoft.com entry. It is incorrect, and will cause everything sent to your machine to be rejected. This is stated on their website. I think is should be osirusoft.net, but I wouldn't swear to it. I don't know where you heard this, but relays.osirusoft.com is the official name for the Osirusoft blacklists... Sander. - -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.5.3 iQA/AwUBPjkp+dPjBkUEZx5AEQJZiwCg/pBLRs3xx1D6UpzUQqjl7DfSZ7IAoP6A Sjp7FtxPx0JoP2s5vojr3uNA =WnRo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: ibm netvista hangs / freezes with rh80
Hmmm... I answered this from my other address, but it doesn't seem to be showing up. shrug So I'll try it again. I had this same problem with Netvistas. The problem (in my case) turned out to be the integrated NIC. Any traffic on it at all, would lock the box solid. I'd have to hit the power button. My solution was to simply put in a NIC, and not use the integrated card. (disable it if you can, don't activated on bootup if can't disable it). Mine all work fine now. Hope that helps! Ric Thierry ITTY wrote: Hi I have an IBM netvista (model 6349) It works fine with windows nt I installed rh80 on it (all packages, out-of-the-box) It works fine for a while, then it hangs, the only cure is a power off/on I searched a lot, read various docs, found nothing I updated the bios to latest version, doesn't help It's a make/model problem, not a machine one : another netvista I used formerly has the SAME problem I think that the only way to cure is to change some kernel option/parameter, but which one ??? I really need help TIA - * - * - * - * - * - * - Bien sûr que je suis perfectionniste ! Mais ne pourrais-je pas l'être mieux ? Thierry ITTY eMail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] FRANCE -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
java plugin for mozilla 1.2
All; Ok, I know, this just went around. But I'm going to drag it back up for a minute. I recently went out, and got the jre, and installed it, and the java plugin. But... Any site I go to with java, just crashes Mozilla now. Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, is there a fix? Thank you! Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: java plugin for mozilla 1.2
Tibbetts, Ric wrote: All; Ok, I know, this just went around. But I'm going to drag it back up for a minute. I recently went out, and got the jre, and installed it, and the java plugin. But... Any site I go to with java, just crashes Mozilla now. Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, is there a fix? Thank you! Ric I found one!!! I picked up j2re 1.4.1 from Blackdown. The javaplugin from that package works with Mozilla 1.2 Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: java plugin for mozilla 1.2
Thanks Mike; Yeah, I saw that. BAsed on that, I tried jre-1.3.1-fcs.i386.rpm Thinking that it should work. Nope. Mozilla would crash. Maybe the Blackdown version would have worked.. I don't know, I just tried the Freshmeat version. Then I grabbed 1.4.1 off Blackdown, and it works. It works so well in fact, that the distribution comes with a Mozilla plugin, rather than just the customary netscape plugin... So .. search ended. Thanks again. Ric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ric, I don't know if this would have any impact on your question or not but from the Mozilla release notes: http://www.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla1.0/#java Mozilla has been tested with all 1.3.0_* versions of the JRE, and JRE 1.3.1, and beta versions of JDK 1.4. J2SE releases previous to 1.3.0_01 will not work with Mozilla . There are a couple of other errata notes there as well in case they may be applicable. Regards, Mike Klinke On Thursday 30 January 2003 16:05, Tibbetts, Ric wrote: All; Ok, I know, this just went around. But I'm going to drag it back up for a minute. I recently went out, and got the jre, and installed it, and the java plugin. But... Any site I go to with java, just crashes Mozilla now. Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, is there a fix? Thank you! Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: how to resize partition without losing data?
John Norris wrote: I ran into the sae problem on my pc, I am dual booting XP, and Linux. I used Partition Magic 8.0 and resized the partitions in windows. Partiton Magic also supports vfat People really need to get on the bandwagon, and get LVM installed working. There's nothing bugs me worse than to see soemone answer a Linux question with I have this great Windows utility... LVM folks. Look it up, learn it, use it! IT's the answer to situations like this one. Once set up, I can do fun things like: enlarge a filesystem on the fly (no reboots required, no data loss). Add new filesystems on the fly. No reboot required. And more! IT's part of Linux now. Stop depending on Windows solutions. LVM has been with unix for many years. IBM pioneered it a long time ago. It has since been adopted by nearly every other vendor under the sun. There's no need for the continued dependance on Windows based solutions. It's an insult to the Linux community to do so. JMHO-YMMV Ric From: Daniel Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: how to resize partition without losing data? Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 09:39:07 -0800 (PST) have used up 98% of my /usr, and need to increase space in /usr. How do I resize it without losing data? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: how to resize partition without losing data?
Doug; Thanks for adding that. I meant to put in a link to sistina, and didn't. Yes, LVM is included with RH 8.0. In fact, you can set it up at install time. I'm not sure that ext3 will expand on the fly though. I haven't tried. But ReiserFS, jfs, and xfs all will. Ric Douglas Myers wrote: http://www.sistina.com/products_lvm.htm lvm homepage, has HOWTO, etc I'd also suggest looking into a filesystem that expands easily on the fly, reiserFS, jfs (needs a patch), xfs, etc. I'd also grab the latest toolset for lvm from there as well. I'm not sure on 8.0, but on 7.2 and 7.3, the RH kernel doesn't have lvm in the kernel by defualt, IIRC /---Original Message---/ /*From:*/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /*Date:*/ Wednesday, January 29, 2003 10:18:54 /*To:*/ '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /*Subject:*/ RE: how to resize partition without losing data? OK, cool. Thanks for the rant. Now, how about a pointer to more information on LVM, like a HOWTO, whether it's installed by default in 7.2/7.3/8.0, where to get it, etc. instead John -Original Message- From: Tibbetts, Ric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 12:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: how to resize partition without losing data? John Norris wrote: I ran into the sae problem on my pc, I am dual booting XP, and Linux. I used Partition Magic 8.0 and resized the partitions in windows. Partiton Magic also supports vfat People really need to get on the bandwagon, and get LVM installed working. There's nothing bugs me worse than to see soemone answer a Linux question with I have this great Windows utility... LVM folks. Look it up, learn it, use it! IT's the answer to situations like this one. Once set up, I can do fun things like: enlarge a filesystem on the fly (no reboots required, no data loss). Add new filesystems on the fly. No reboot required. And more! IT's part of Linux now. Stop depending on Windows solutions. LVM has been with unix for many years. IBM pioneered it a long time ago. It has since been adopted by nearly every other vendor under the sun. There's no need for the continued dependance on Windows based solutions. It's an insult to the Linux community to do so. JMHO-YMMV Ric From: Daniel Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: how to resize partition without losing data? Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 09:39:07 -0800 (PST) have used up 98% of my /usr, and need to increase space in /usr. How do I resize it without losing data? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list . http://www.incredimail.com/redir.asp?ad_id=309lang=9 /IncrediMail/ - *Email has finally evolved* - *_Click Here_* http://www.incredimail.com/redir.asp?ad_id=309lang=9 -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: how to resize partition without losing data?
LVM is good stuff. Unfortunately, it's only good stuff if you install it at the begining. It cannot be retroactivly installed. (that's the bad news). If you're building a new system, you'll need to do some planning for your filesystems. The boot partition cannot be on an LVM. So you can end up with something like: Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hda1 124427 19935 98068 17% /boot /dev/datavg/rootlv 253871139648101116 59% / /dev/datavg/usrlv 2064208 1876556 82796 96% /usr /dev/datavg/varlv 507748 64738416796 14% /var /dev/datavg/tmplv 126931 4756115622 4% /tmp /dev/datavg/optlv 2064208 56692 1902660 3% /opt /dev/datavg/srclv 1032088198744780916 21% /usr/src /dev/datavg/locallv2064208 47968 1911384 3% /usr/local /dev/datavg/homelv 4128448165852 3752884 5% /home /dev/datavg/Datalv25040764252444 23516308 2% /Data none256592 0256592 0% /dev/shm Note that /boot is on /dev/hda1, not on the logical volume. The remainder of the box, is build on logical volumes. Sistina has a lengthly discussion on LVM. It's really not as complex as it sounds. It just takes a little doing to get your head around it. It makes more sense (human sense) if you are dealing with multiple drives. It gets kinda fuzzy when you start speaking of Volume Groups in reference to a single drive. ;) I don't think there is a HOW-TO out yet for it. Maybe someone needs to prod me with a sharp stick, and make me write one... (I suppose if I'm going to rant about it, the least I could do is write up a simple mini-HOW-TO on the subject.. Ric Turner, John wrote: Cool, thanks for the 8.0 info. John -Original Message- From: Tibbetts, Ric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 2:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: how to resize partition without losing data? Doug; Thanks for adding that. I meant to put in a link to sistina, and didn't. Yes, LVM is included with RH 8.0. In fact, you can set it up at install time. I'm not sure that ext3 will expand on the fly though. I haven't tried. But ReiserFS, jfs, and xfs all will. Ric Douglas Myers wrote: http://www.sistina.com/products_lvm.htm lvm homepage, has HOWTO, etc I'd also suggest looking into a filesystem that expands easily on the fly, reiserFS, jfs (needs a patch), xfs, etc. I'd also grab the latest toolset for lvm from there as well. I'm not sure on 8.0, but on 7.2 and 7.3, the RH kernel doesn't have lvm in the kernel by defualt, IIRC /---Original Message---/ /*From:*/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /*Date:*/ Wednesday, January 29, 2003 10:18:54 /*To:*/ '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /*Subject:*/ RE: how to resize partition without losing data? OK, cool. Thanks for the rant. Now, how about a pointer to more information on LVM, like a HOWTO, whether it's installed by default in 7.2/7.3/8.0, where to get it, etc. instead John -Original Message- From: Tibbetts, Ric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 12:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: how to resize partition without losing data? John Norris wrote: I ran into the sae problem on my pc, I am dual booting XP, and Linux. I used Partition Magic 8.0 and resized the partitions in windows. Partiton Magic also supports vfat People really need to get on the bandwagon, and get LVM installed working. There's nothing bugs me worse than to see soemone answer a Linux question with I have this great Windows utility... LVM folks. Look it up, learn it, use it! IT's the answer to situations like this one. Once set up, I can do fun things like: enlarge a filesystem on the fly (no reboots required, no data loss). Add new filesystems on the fly. No reboot required. And more! IT's part of Linux now. Stop depending on Windows solutions. LVM has been with unix for many years. IBM pioneered it a long time ago. It has since been adopted by nearly every other vendor under the sun. There's no need for the continued dependance on Windows based solutions. It's an insult to the Linux community to do so. JMHO-YMMV Ric From: Daniel Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: how to resize partition without losing data? Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 09:39:07 -0800 (PST) have used up 98% of my /usr, and need to increase space in /usr. How do I resize it without losing data? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto
Re: how to resize partition without losing data?
Ignore the kernel patching instructions! It's already included. I'm running on this box. It's straight out of the box Redhat 8.0. I've been prodded. I'll see if I can scribble up some simple instructions. HOWEVER: WARNING You cannot ovelay it on a live system! It WILL erase all existing data on the drive(s). It can only be done on new drives, or at new installation time, when you can sacrifice the data on the disks. /WARNING If you're installing new disk(s), or re-installing a system, and don't care about losing the existing data. go for it! Ric Turner, John wrote: The Sistina site had a pretty good HOW-TO, from what I saw of it. It also had instructions for patching the kernel...so maybe it is possible to retrofit it. John -Original Message- From: Tibbetts, Ric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 3:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: how to resize partition without losing data? LVM is good stuff. Unfortunately, it's only good stuff if you install it at the begining. It cannot be retroactivly installed. (that's the bad news). If you're building a new system, you'll need to do some planning for your filesystems. The boot partition cannot be on an LVM. So you can end up with something like: Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hda1 124427 19935 98068 17% /boot /dev/datavg/rootlv 253871139648101116 59% / /dev/datavg/usrlv 2064208 1876556 82796 96% /usr /dev/datavg/varlv 507748 64738416796 14% /var /dev/datavg/tmplv 126931 4756115622 4% /tmp /dev/datavg/optlv 2064208 56692 1902660 3% /opt /dev/datavg/srclv 1032088198744780916 21% /usr/src /dev/datavg/locallv2064208 47968 1911384 3% /usr/local /dev/datavg/homelv 4128448165852 3752884 5% /home /dev/datavg/Datalv25040764252444 23516308 2% /Data none256592 0256592 0% /dev/shm Note that /boot is on /dev/hda1, not on the logical volume. The remainder of the box, is build on logical volumes. Sistina has a lengthly discussion on LVM. It's really not as complex as it sounds. It just takes a little doing to get your head around it. It makes more sense (human sense) if you are dealing with multiple drives. It gets kinda fuzzy when you start speaking of Volume Groups in reference to a single drive. ;) I don't think there is a HOW-TO out yet for it. Maybe someone needs to prod me with a sharp stick, and make me write one... (I suppose if I'm going to rant about it, the least I could do is write up a simple mini-HOW-TO on the subject.. Ric Turner, John wrote: Cool, thanks for the 8.0 info. John -Original Message- From: Tibbetts, Ric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 2:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: how to resize partition without losing data? Doug; Thanks for adding that. I meant to put in a link to sistina, and didn't. Yes, LVM is included with RH 8.0. In fact, you can set it up at install time. I'm not sure that ext3 will expand on the fly though. I haven't tried. But ReiserFS, jfs, and xfs all will. Ric Douglas Myers wrote: http://www.sistina.com/products_lvm.htm lvm homepage, has HOWTO, etc I'd also suggest looking into a filesystem that expands easily on the fly, reiserFS, jfs (needs a patch), xfs, etc. I'd also grab the latest toolset for lvm from there as well. I'm not sure on 8.0, but on 7.2 and 7.3, the RH kernel doesn't have lvm in the kernel by defualt, IIRC /---Original Message---/ /*From:*/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /*Date:*/ Wednesday, January 29, 2003 10:18:54 /*To:*/ '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /*Subject:*/ RE: how to resize partition without losing data? OK, cool. Thanks for the rant. Now, how about a pointer to more information on LVM, like a HOWTO, whether it's installed by default in 7.2/7.3/8.0, where to get it, etc. instead John -Original Message- From: Tibbetts, Ric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 12:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: how to resize partition without losing data? John Norris wrote: I ran into the sae problem on my pc, I am dual booting XP, and Linux. I used Partition Magic 8.0 and resized the partitions in windows. Partiton Magic also supports vfat People really need to get on the bandwagon, and get LVM installed working. There's nothing bugs me worse than to see soemone answer a Linux question with I have this great Windows utility... LVM folks. Look it up, learn it, use it! IT's the answer to situations like this one. Once set up, I can do fun things like: enlarge a filesystem on the fly (no reboots required, no data loss). Add new filesystems on the fly. No reboot required. And more! IT's part of Linux
Re: how to resize partition without losing data?
I have to agree on leaving /boot out of the lvm. I don't include it out of a desire to preserve my sanity. When things are going wrong, I don't want to hassle with trying to get it booted. So I leave /boot out. The rest, I put in. I don't know if it was included pre 8.0. I know it was on some other distros, but I don't think so with RedHat. If you're on a pre 8.0 box, then you may need to patch it in. Ric Douglas Myers wrote: hmm, that was what I wasn't sure of, I think on 7.3 and below, lvm wasn't in the stock kernel, but we never use it (besides initial kickstart) so couldn't remember. As far as lvm'ing everything: we do not, as a general rule make a /boot lv, though I'm pretty sure we have in the past (makes for ugly rescue from CD, we wrote a net boot to get around), using lvmcreate_initrd, or am I thinking something else? as for retention, if you build your parts for the initial install just enough to fit (with /boot being it's own little part in our design), you can pvcreate the other part of the disk, then after transfer of the system, go back and recover the ext3 partition into the vg... Anyhow, that's what we do... ext3 will expand, it's fugly, I much prefer the other three FS' they seem to journal better as well... /---Original Message---/ /*From:*/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /*Date:*/ Wednesday, January 29, 2003 12:43:18 /*To:*/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /*Subject:*/ Re: how to resize partition without losing data? Ignore the kernel patching instructions! It's already included. I'm running on this box. It's straight out of the box Redhat 8.0. I've been prodded. I'll see if I can scribble up some simple instructions. HOWEVER: WARNING You cannot ovelay it on a live system! It WILL erase all existing data on the drive(s). It can only be done on new drives, or at new installation time, when you can sacrifice the data on the disks. /WARNING If you're installing new disk(s), or re-installing a system, and don't care about losing the existing data. go for it! Ric Turner, John wrote: The Sistina site had a pretty good HOW-TO, from what I saw of it. It also had instructions for patching the kernel...so maybe it is possible to retrofit it. John -Original Message- From: Tibbetts, Ric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 3:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: how to resize partition without losing data? LVM is good stuff. Unfortunately, it's only good stuff if you install it at the begining. It cannot be retroactivly installed. (that's the bad news). If you're building a new system, you'll need to do some planning for your filesystems. The boot partition cannot be on an LVM. So you can end up with something like: Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hda1 124427 19935 98068 17% /boot /dev/datavg/rootlv 253871 139648 101116 59% / /dev/datavg/usrlv 2064208 1876556 82796 96% /usr /dev/datavg/varlv 507748 64738 416796 14% /var /dev/datavg/tmplv 126931 4756 115622 4% /tmp /dev/datavg/optlv 2064208 56692 1902660 3% /opt /dev/datavg/srclv 1032088 198744 780916 21% /usr/src /dev/datavg/locallv 2064208 47968 1911384 3% /usr/local /dev/datavg/homelv 4128448 165852 3752884 5% /home /dev/datavg/Datalv 25040764 252444 23516308 2% /Data none 256592 0 256592 0% /dev/shm Note that /boot is on /dev/hda1, not on the logical volume. The remainder of the box, is build on logical volumes. Sistina has a lengthly discussion on LVM. It's really not as complex as it sounds. It just takes a little doing to get your head around it. It makes more sense (human sense) if you are dealing with multiple drives. It gets kinda fuzzy when you start speaking of Volume Groups in reference to a single drive. ;) I don't think there is a HOW-TO out yet for it. Maybe someone needs to prod me with a sharp stick, and make me write one... (I suppose if I'm going to rant about it, the least I could do is write up a simple mini-HOW-TO on the subject.. Ric Turner, John wrote: Cool, thanks for the 8.0 info. John -Original Message- From: Tibbetts, Ric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 2:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: how to resize partition without losing data? Doug; Thanks for adding that. I meant to put in a link to sistina, and didn't. Yes, LVM is included with RH 8.0. In fact, you can set it up at install time. I'm not sure that ext3 will expand on the fly though. I haven't tried. But ReiserFS, jfs, and xfs all will. Ric Douglas Myers wrote: http://www.sistina.com/products_lvm.htm lvm homepage, has HOWTO, etc I'd also suggest looking into a filesystem that expands easily on the fly, reiserFS, jfs (needs a patch), xfs, etc. I'd also grab the latest toolset for lvm from
Re: A Linux Browser that supports java
I just tried to follow this link. It takes you to a page where you select your client type, and it then auto downloads , and installs. (cough).. Nice if you just want it in your personal workspace... However, the link ultimately points to ftp.netscape.com, which does not exist. Ric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sun? Have the instructions in the release notes changed for 8.0? Mozilla - Help - Release Notes Search for applet and you'll see a link to the Java Plugin at: http://wp.netscape.com/plugins/jvm.html Mind you, it's been a while since I did this, but it was exceptionally painless at the the time. Regards, Mike Klinke On Monday 27 January 2003 13:59, Joe Polk wrote: I realize that Mozilla is trying to avoid bloat, but requiring a separate compile/install is a bit of a joke. This will need to possibly be addressed by the distro itself. Installing RH8 from scratch and having to go to sun.com to get jre and them installing that is no way to target new users. I did this and still can't run some applets without Mozilla closing. So, I think Mozilla supports only java script and not java. True? If so, does anyone know how I can get a browser that will support java applets and run on my RedHat boxes? Thanks in advance, steve -- -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Burning CD's of 8.1 beta
snip But the install won't recognize them. Is this the first version of Red Hat Linux were this happens to you? Yep. In fact, I have the CDs for 8.0 that I burned via the same methods, and they work just fine. I also have the CDs from Mandrake that work fine. This is the first time I've had this problem. If I put in #1, and autorun kicks in, it says that the operation requires disc 1, and instructs you to insert it.. but it's already in the drive. What am I missing? If the discs need to be labled, what do they need to be labeled to? No. Everything you need is stored in the ISO images already. An ISO image is a raw copy of an ISO 9660 file-system. When you burn the image to CD and the burnt CD passes the MD5 checksum or media-check, your problem is something else. Maybe you switched disc #2 and disc #2 or anything like that? Are you sure you really have the first three discs? ;) Nope. Was very careful about this. I verified all the images, and ahve very carefully checked everything. I even ran them through the check media test at the begining of the install, and they verified fine. In fact, IT was able to tell which CD it had. It's just at install time that it can't find them. This is frustrating. FYI: To burn the CD's I tried both cli cdrecord, and a GUI gtoaster. Both produced the same result. Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Routing
Ok, this is an easy one... Or should be. I have a slight situation. My cube is short on network jacks, but long on computers. One of them has 2 NICs in it (a RH 8.0 box). Can I use box 1 to route for box 2? I don't need NAT, or IP Masq'ing or firewalling, or any of that. Just a way to get 2 devices pluged into 1 jack (don't have a hub...can't put one in...). Thanks! Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
rpm --rebuild
Ok, I know, it's been discussed. But I'm an idiot, and ignored the thread when it was around, and now I can't find it. So, would someone please refresh me on this. I need to rebuild a .src.rpm Used to be trivial: rpm --rebuild name.src.rpm But some kind person(s) decided that must have been to easy, and it doesn't work any more. How is it done now? (yes, I'm cranky about this. It worked fine, why was it messed with?).. Thanks! Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: rpm --rebuild
Emmanuel Seyman wrote: On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 11:17:42AM -0500, Tibbetts, Ric wrote: So, would someone please refresh me on this. I need to rebuild a .src.rpm Used to be trivial: rpm --rebuild name.src.rpm It's now: rpmbuild -bb name.src.rpm You'll need the rpm-build rpm installed first. But some kind person(s) decided that must have been to easy, and it doesn't work any more. How is it done now? (yes, I'm cranky about this. It worked fine, why was it messed with?).. FWIW, this has been the official way to build rpms since RH 7 . I've been away for a while. Was working with a different distro. They've taken a turn I don't like. I'm back. Ric PS: Also, IIRC you could still rpm --rebuild in 7.x Anyway, thanks all for the info. I'll retrain my fingers. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Firewalls
All; I'll be building a new server soon, based on Redhat. What firewalling software is good these days? I've heard good things about firestarter. Is it worth looking into, or is there something better/easier. Thanks! Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: why is wrong with this /etc/crontab
Assuming that the required script even exists, rewrite lines 11 12 lise so: 10 12 * * * /home/jzhu/pl/p1.pl /home/jzhu/o1.dat 10 12 * * * echo jzhu /home/jzhu/jzhu.dat Then they should work just fine. There are a couple of typos in them as presented below. Cheers Ric Jianping Zhu wrote: Thanks, i checked as you indicated. but it is still not working. On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Bart Schelstraete wrote: Jianping Zhu wrote: I have redhat 7.3 server the /etc/crontab is as following .- SHELL=/bin/bash PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin MAILTO=root HOME=/ # run-parts 01 * * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.houily 2 4 * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.daily 22 4 * * 0 root run-parts /etc/cron.weekly 42 4 1 * * root run-parts /etc/cron.monthly 10 12 * * 1-5 root /usr/local/pubcrawler/pubcrawler #line10 10 12 * * * * root /home/jzhu/pl/p1.pl/home/jzhu/o1.dat #line11 10 12 * * * * root echo jzhu/home/jzhu/jzhu.dat#line12 Hello, a) Check the permissions of those file, and make sure that they are executable. # chmod +x /usr/local/pubcrawler/pubcrawler b) Make sure that you're using the correct interpretor. To check this, edit that file and check the FIRST line. It should contain something like: #!/usr/bin/perl rgrds, Bart -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list Jianping Zhu Department of Computer Science Univerity of Georgia Athens, GA 30602 Tel 706 5423900 -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Test
Burke, Thomas G. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 No, it's just r slow... (Posts are taking up to 3 days to appear) The little guy in the back room is typing as fast as he can! Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Equivalent to urpmi/apt-get for RedHat?
Before you do that, take a good hard look at Mandrake 9.1b2. It will show you the direction that Mandrake is going. If you have a test box, load that up. I'm not saying anything about whether it's good, or bad. Just warning you to take a look. I'm actually converting the other way, from Mandrake, back to Redhat. Although, I will miss urpmi. Great tool! It saves you from Dependancy Hell. Ric Alexander Skwar wrote: Hello. I'm thinking about converting to Red Hat from Mandrake. One extremely useful tool in Mandrake, was urpmi which is somewhat like apt-get from Debian (or apt-rpm from . Both tools allow easy installation of RPMs. So, if I wanted to install proftpd, I'd type: urpmi proftpd urpmi would then download and install proftpd and any dependencies. In case all (or some) of the packages are on the install CDs, urpmi would prompt to insert the correct CD and install from there. Another nifty feature of the urpmi tools is urpmf. Suppose I wanted to know, which package contains /usr/include/time.h, I'd type: [askwar@teich .procmail]$ urpmf /usr/include/time.h glibc-devel:/usr/include/time.h Or suppose, I wanted to know, which package provides the virtual capability zlib-devel, I'd type: [askwar@teich .procmail]$ urpmq zlib-devel zlib1-devel This would tell me, that the package zlib1-devel needs to be installed for this capability. This of course also works for not installed packages (as long as they are listed in the urpmi databases, of course). What's the equivalent in RedHat to these tools? It would be very nice, if this tool doesn't require a X gui; ie. command line tools are preferred. If it requires a GUI, then so be it. Thanks a lot, Alexander Skwar -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: why is wrong with this /etc/crontab
Jianping Zhu wrote: I have redhat 7.3 server the /etc/crontab is as following .- SHELL=/bin/bash PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin MAILTO=root HOME=/ # run-parts 01 * * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.houily 2 4 * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.daily 22 4 * * 0 root run-parts /etc/cron.weekly 42 4 1 * * root run-parts /etc/cron.monthly 10 12 * * 1-5 root /usr/local/pubcrawler/pubcrawler #line10 10 12 * * * * root /home/jzhu/pl/p1.pl/home/jzhu/o1.dat #line11 rewrite this to: 10 12 * * * * /home/jzhu/pl/p1.pl /home/jzhu/o1.dat If it's roots crontab, you don't need to designate it here. If you must do it, ad the -u, like: 10 12 * * * * -u root /home/jzhu/pl/p1.pl /home/jzhu/o1.dat You also don't need all the junk at the top. It isn't hurting anything, but you don't need it. It will pick up the environment of the user it runs as. So if it runs as root, it will run under roots default environment. Cheers. Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: how to substutue string in a text file
Jianping Zhu wrote: how to substutue string in a text file by using gerp or find? I have a text file, lof of abdfggg in that text file, i need to change it to opsmsdd, is there a simple way to do that? sed is your friend. sed 's/abdfggg/opsmsdd/g' infile outfile That will replace ALL instances of abdfggg with opmsmdd in file infile, and write it to outfile. Be sure that the redirect goes to a new file. If you try to redirect it back into the original file, you'll be hosed after the first line. Cheers! Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Serious problems with RH8.0
snip RedHat or even Linux (consider WinXP). If everything stayed the same, we'd still be using FVWM or TWM. HEY! I liked FVWM! I spent an eternity writing a config file for it, to get it to look/act the way I wanted it to. I don't use it anymore... But it was great stuff! Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Serious problems with RH8.0
Francisco Neira wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tibbetts, Ric wrote: | snip | | RedHat or even Linux (consider WinXP). If everything stayed the same, | we'd still be using FVWM or TWM. | | | HEY! I liked FVWM! I spent an eternity writing a config file for it, to | get it to look/act the way I wanted it to. I don't use it anymore... But | it was great stuff! | | Ric | | | | Yes! And it was *light*. Ideal for a 486... I miss it! :-) Light, and fast. I used to run it on an old Pentium 75. Ran great. Not so easy to configure as the new stuff.. But you could have it your way. You just had to take the time to learn it.. ;) Ah.. the good old days.. ;) BTW: It's still out there, and included on many distros. if you really want it. Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
sshd problem resolved
To all who responded to this one, Thank you! It's good to know you're out there. I got this one resolved last night. Somehow (and I'm still looking into how), the sshd user got removed. Without that, sshd won't start. Once I put that back, sshd started back up, and all is well with the world. Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Hardware suggestions for R/H Workstation
I think you can get Dell with Redhat pre-installed. But not at the consumer level. From what I understand, it's just at the business level (servers). There are a couple of vendors out there selling pre-built Linux boxes. In fact, I was recently involved in helping set one up (it's not ready, so I'm not publishing the name of that one). A couple of companies that are selling pre-built boxes: *Disclaimer* I do not work for any of these companies, nor do I have any first hand knowledge of their products. I am presenting them only as a reference, and do not actively encourage anyone to buy their products. Before purchasing any products from these companies, you are highly encouraged to investigate the companies, and their products first!* www.aslabs.com www.penguincomputing.com www.wallmart.com (yup.. Wally-World sells pre-loaded Linux boxes. I believe that they're pre-loaded with Mandrake). www.tlinesystems.com (web site up, but not yet completed). Leave them a note of interest. Maybe it will motivate them to get it finished! Ric Gordon Ewasiuk wrote: Hi List, I'm selling my Ultra 10 and looking to buy a high powered workstation to run Redhat. I'm inclined to do the usual build your own model and select the best components(motherboard, CPU, ram, etc.) for the job. Does anyone have an suggestions about specific motherboards, processors, or other components? Are there any Redhat specific hardware sites? Also, I tried to order a prebuilt system via the usual suspects - Dell, IBM, HP, Compaq...but was surprised to find that NONE offered to install Redhat 8 on a system. Does anyone know of any system vendors that will preinstall Redhat 8? And what happened to the deal between Redhat and Dell??? Offlist replies welcome. Will summarize/publish to www site if there's interest... regards, -gordon -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Hardware suggestions for R/H Workstation
For a good mobo: Soyo Dragon Plus (Athlon) Need SMP? Try the Tyan board. Deffinately go with crucial memory. Like fancy cases? Look into the Lian-Li Aluminum cases. Spendy, but nice!!! Ric Gordon Ewasiuk wrote: Hi List, I'm selling my Ultra 10 and looking to buy a high powered workstation to run Redhat. I'm inclined to do the usual build your own model and select the best components(motherboard, CPU, ram, etc.) for the job. Does anyone have an suggestions about specific motherboards, processors, or other components? Are there any Redhat specific hardware sites? Also, I tried to order a prebuilt system via the usual suspects - Dell, IBM, HP, Compaq...but was surprised to find that NONE offered to install Redhat 8 on a system. Does anyone know of any system vendors that will preinstall Redhat 8? And what happened to the deal between Redhat and Dell??? Offlist replies welcome. Will summarize/publish to www site if there's interest... regards, -gordon -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
sshd server problem - HELP!
All; I have an interesting challenge. Some speculation will be required to solve this one! The situation: Linux Server sitting in Seattle, I'm in Florida. The Linux Server crashed due to a power failure (I know, it needs a UPS). When the server came back up, it came up, sans sshd. So I cannot get on it to check it out. I also cannot get on to diagnose the problem with sshd, because ssh is my only access (kinda a catch-22 isn't it?). Further complicating it: I Have no one on site, that knows spit about computers, that can help. The best that can be offered is a pair of fingers, that are extremely computer illerate. Somehow, I need to diagnose the problem, and find a way to fix it. Any suggestions will be greatfully accepted. Any guesses on what would be snagging up sshd? All I know is that it failes to start, both on boot, and via service sshd start. I don't know what's in the logs, I can't get to them. I know this is vague, but it's all I have to go on at the moment. Any suggestions, speculations, WAGs will be very greatfully accepted! Thank you! Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: sshd server problem - HELP!
Javier Gostling wrote: On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 09:49:03AM -0500, Tibbetts, Ric wrote: Any suggestions, speculations, WAGs will be very greatfully accepted! Get those two fingers to chkconfig telnet on and service xinetd reload, then you telnet to the machine, diagnose, fix and change root password (in case it was snooped). For the future, you might consider installing a modem on the server, so you can dial in to it when having network access problems. Cheers, I tried the telnet idea before. It's not even installed. So that's out. but thanks for the suggestion. Any thoughts on what would be causing sshd to fail would be helpfull. Ric PS: I won't be back in Seattle for a couple of months. But the next time I'm up there, I'll consider both a UPS, and a modem. ;) -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: HOWTO : permit a user to execute a shell (root is owner) and restric the read
Partly true. You need to be able to read the file, but, you can hide it. I've used this trick before. Make a directory (for example: /usr/local/secure/bin ) Set the permissions of it to 711. Put the script in there, with permissions set to 755. Then, put a wrapper script in /usr/local/bin, that runs that script. So it looks like: ls -la /usr/local/secure: drwx--x--x2 root root 4096 Jan 7 10:13 bin ls -la /usr/local/secure/bin /usr/local/secure/bin/hello has permissions 755 to allow execution. You still cannot read it, because users have no read access. hello looks like: #!/bin/bash # echo Hello World Then in /usr/local/bin run.hello looks like: #!/bin/bash # /usr/local/secure/bin/hello running run.hello caused hello to be run, but the users cannot access, or read hello. Hope that helps! Ric NOTE: I have not endlessly beat this up for holes. But I've used it in the past successfully. Proceed with caution - YMMV Adam H. Pendleton wrote: I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you cannot execute a file without being able to read it. You have to be able to open the file in order to read the code inside to execute. You might be able to achieve this result by using ACL systems such as www.grsecurity.net, but I doubt it. ahp On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 09:50 AM, cana rich wrote: Hello, I am using RedHat 7.2. I have a shell (root is the owner) and i would like it to be execatable by others user but not readable by the other users. ls -l give : -rwx--x-- 1 root mygroup 5030 jan 06 10:00:01 program1.bsh I have tried : chmod 710 program1.bsh but when i log in other user(who belong to mygroup) and try to execute the shell i have the message : Can't open Could you help me? Thanks in advance. Canarich image.tiff Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en français ! Testez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: sshd server problem - HELP!
Javier Gostling wrote: On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 10:04:22AM -0500, Tibbetts, Ric wrote: I tried the telnet idea before. It's not even installed. So that's out. but thanks for the suggestion. Ok. Another one is to do an xhost + remote_host and have the guy at the remote site do xterm -display your_host:0 so as to have the remote xterm window show in your workstations display. Be aware that, most likely, a firewall will be blocking you somewhere. Yeah, the server itself is running a firewall. (just to make this even harder). So telnet is blocked. Even if it were installed, it's blocked. I'm really down to looking for a set of guesses on why sshd is failing to start. Ric An Idea: FTP is enabled. So I can ftp into the box, but only as a regular user, not as root. I'm doctoring a copy of /etc/passwd, to switch the UID of a regular user to 0. That would grant root priveledge during ftp. Then I can grab a copy of /var/log/messages, and maybe get a clue as to what's happening. I can walk my remote fingers through a cp /tmp/passwd /etc/passwd to put that in place (later today.. the fingers are out for the morning...). -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: sshd server problem - HELP!
Jeffrey Tadlock wrote: On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 10:04:22AM -0500, Tibbetts, Ric wrote: I tried the telnet idea before. It's not even installed. So that's out. but thanks for the suggestion. Any thoughts on what would be causing sshd to fail would be helpfull. Ric I would try one of two things. Try starting sshd and then tail /var/log/messages to see what the error is. You should be able to walk even a non-computer user through these commands. Or, if the machine has a network connection have the user try starting sshd and then type the following # tail /var/log/messages | mail -s logs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Then just wait for the email to arrive which may provide you with additional insight. At least this way you may get a bit more information as to what is causing sshd to fail. Yep, this is what is surfacing as the answer. I'll try the UID switch first. Then I may be able to grab a copy of /var/log/messages. If that fails, then I'll have my remote fingers mail it to me. Whew! Been fun (and it's still not solved...). Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: sshd server problem - HELP!
Michael Schwendt wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 07 Jan 2003 11:31:27 -0500, Tibbetts, Ric wrote: Yeah, the server itself is running a firewall. (just to make this even harder). So telnet is blocked. Even if it were installed, it's blocked. I'm really down to looking for a set of guesses on why sshd is failing to start. An Idea: FTP is enabled. So I can ftp into the box, but only as a It could be damaged shared objects. Can you get anyone to run the following and make available the file via FTP? # su -l root # rpm -qa | xargs -n 1 -t rpm -V rpm-Va.txt I doubt that it's that detailed. I suspect it's just a full filesystem. I'm going to have my remote fingers e-Mail me a copy of the /var/logs/messages. That should shed some light on this. I'll know more later on. Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Mozilla Font/sizes
What version of Mozilla? I'm running Mozilla 1.2, and it has the same Preferences entry you listed below. In fact, I had to do the same thing to enlarge my fonts a little bit. Dang high res monitors really shrink the font sizes down. Ric PS: Another suggestion: You could try switching xfs over from using the 75dpi fonts, to the 100dpi fonts. That will help. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Netscape I could go down Edit-Preferences-apperance-Fonts and have some control over the font sizes on my screen. With Mozilla I see no such popup, and the fonts being used are TOO SMALL to read. Anyone know how to fix this? -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Burning a Music CD
Ahem; You don't own the CD's, records, nor tapes. You own a copy of them. That copy gives you the right to play them, from their original media. It expressly, does not, give you the right to copy them. Period. Now with that out of the way. There is an excelent how-to on using cderecord for this. If you have the original CD, you'll need to run something like grip on it, to extract the tracks. Then use cdrecord to burn them onto the new cd. Look up the cdrecord how-to. It has all the info you need. Ric Michael Tiernan wrote: Anyone familiar enough with cd-record to help me burn a music CD? I'm trying to put together some songs for my upcoming wedding and doing them on one CD will make our lives much easier. (I'm hoping to avoid some of the morality discussions here since I own all the records/cds/tapes that I'm looking to use for this purpose.) -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
